1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,600 You have an argument with your neighbor? 2 00:00:02,667 --> 00:00:06,133 He was threatening me with taking me to court for my dogs barking. 3 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:09,433 After I told him that I was gonna bring a lawsuit against him because of the dogs, 4 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:10,900 he said that he would take that lawsuit, 5 00:00:10,967 --> 00:00:12,500 wipe his […] with it, and throw it on the ground. 6 00:00:12,567 --> 00:00:16,867 So you knew that your dogs were annoying to him? 7 00:00:18,333 --> 00:00:20,667 - No. - When I speak to you, you answer. 8 00:00:20,734 --> 00:00:23,467 When I don't speak to you, you don't answer, do you understand? 9 00:00:23,867 --> 00:00:27,467 - [announcer] This is Judy Justice. - [theme music] 10 00:00:43,734 --> 00:00:46,266 [announcer] Previously on Judy Justice… 11 00:00:46,333 --> 00:00:51,033 You claim that Mr. Hart's turkey damaged your car 12 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:53,400 - by flying on it and scratching… - Well, climbing on it, 13 00:00:53,467 --> 00:00:54,834 pecking it, scratching it, yes. 14 00:00:54,900 --> 00:00:58,400 - What color is your pet turkey? - So it's black and white. 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,200 Well, that's clearly a black and white turkey. That would be yours. 16 00:01:03,266 --> 00:01:06,667 I'm on my property and he showed up with his knife, 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,133 kind of playing with it menacingly in his hands. 18 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,100 I made a call to 911. Kathi had told me that a tree had fallen on her 19 00:01:13,166 --> 00:01:16,333 - and I honestly think I saved her life. - Was the tree on her? 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,667 There was no tree. She had started a gasoline fire 21 00:01:18,734 --> 00:01:23,333 - and it had blown up on her leg. - Did the defendant call 911? 22 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,967 - As far… Shh, listen to me. - Mhm. 23 00:01:26,033 --> 00:01:27,333 I know everything. 24 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:30,000 [announcer] And now, the conclusion. 25 00:01:30,367 --> 00:01:36,333 Kathi Burg-Jones and Brian Jones are suing their neighbor, Jason Hart, 26 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:41,100 for damages to their Jeep and filing a false restraining order against them. 27 00:01:41,567 --> 00:01:45,367 - Did the defendant call 911? - Yes. 28 00:01:45,433 --> 00:01:48,867 [Judy] And as a result of the defendant calling 911, 29 00:01:48,934 --> 00:01:51,266 - an ambulance showed up? - Yes. 30 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:53,600 But you decided not to go in the ambulance? 31 00:01:53,834 --> 00:01:54,934 Correct. Too much money. 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,133 - They told me not to. - [Judy] Just a… stop. 33 00:01:56,467 --> 00:01:58,767 You decided not to go in the ambulance? 34 00:01:58,834 --> 00:02:02,100 [Kathi] Yes, after the… yeah. The ambulance people… told me. 35 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:04,533 [Judy] So somebody took you 36 00:02:04,734 --> 00:02:05,767 - to the hospital? - [Kathi] My sister. 37 00:02:05,867 --> 00:02:10,567 [Judy] And when you came home, tell me when you saw the defendant? 38 00:02:10,633 --> 00:02:11,900 - [Kathi] He was outside. - Shh. 39 00:02:11,967 --> 00:02:13,533 - He was outside. - Mhm. 40 00:02:13,667 --> 00:02:16,433 [Judy] And tell me about the conversation that you had with him. 41 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:17,500 - I went over… - [Judy] Look at me. 42 00:02:17,567 --> 00:02:20,867 Okay. I went over to him and I asked him, because I was confused, 43 00:02:20,934 --> 00:02:23,433 and I asked him why he did that, why he acted that way. 44 00:02:23,734 --> 00:02:24,834 - And I was… - [Judy] Shh. 45 00:02:25,934 --> 00:02:27,433 - Okay. - Acted what way? 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,166 It was, like, rude, saying, "How rude." 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,000 - And refused to come over and help me. - [Brian] Cussing. 48 00:02:32,066 --> 00:02:35,133 [Judy] Don't… listen to me. When I speak to you, you answer. 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,834 When I don't speak to you, you don't answer, 50 00:02:36,900 --> 00:02:39,667 you don't say anything to her, you don't coach her, do you understand? 51 00:02:39,734 --> 00:02:40,734 - Gotcha. - [Judy] Perfect. 52 00:02:40,867 --> 00:02:43,000 So you went over to him to complain? 53 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:45,867 No, I went over to him to find out why he acted the way he acted 54 00:02:45,934 --> 00:02:47,133 because it was very strange. 55 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:49,667 Most people would come over and help somebody if they got hurt. 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,633 He was, like, telling me I was rude, 57 00:02:51,700 --> 00:02:54,133 and didn't want to come help me while I was bleeding profusely 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,567 - and it just was weird. - [Judy] Where was your husband? 59 00:02:55,633 --> 00:02:56,700 [Kathi] He was at work. 60 00:02:56,767 --> 00:03:01,300 [Judy] Prior to you going over to ask him why he was so rude, 61 00:03:01,367 --> 00:03:07,133 had he discussed with either you or your husband the barking of your dogs? 62 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,967 No. Except for the fact that he would like play… alarms and stuff like that, 63 00:03:12,033 --> 00:03:16,166 telling me he's trying to train my dogs not to bark and stuff like that. 64 00:03:16,233 --> 00:03:22,200 [Judy] Well, so you… just a second. So you knew that your dogs were annoying to him. 65 00:03:22,567 --> 00:03:24,000 I'm not saying right or wrong, 66 00:03:24,066 --> 00:03:25,567 - you know, dogs bark. - [Kathi] Mhm. Yeah, they bark. 67 00:03:25,633 --> 00:03:28,900 But I'm telling you is, you never know where this mind is going. 68 00:03:29,133 --> 00:03:30,700 So don't try to anticipate your answer… 69 00:03:30,767 --> 00:03:32,800 - Okay. Alright. - [Judy] …to where I'm going. 70 00:03:32,867 --> 00:03:34,200 [Judy] Do you understand? It's not gonna help you. 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,667 - I got it. - So you do understand 72 00:03:36,734 --> 00:03:41,800 and you did understand that he had a problem with your dogs barking? 73 00:03:41,867 --> 00:03:42,867 - Yes, I did. - [Judy] Before? 74 00:03:42,934 --> 00:03:44,100 - [Kathi] Yes. - [Judy] Okay. 75 00:03:44,166 --> 00:03:47,867 So this wasn't a pleasant, "why did you do what you do, 76 00:03:47,934 --> 00:03:51,433 and were rude to me, and didn't come over to help me yourself." 77 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:57,000 So there was an exchange between the two of you that was an unpleasant exchange 78 00:03:57,066 --> 00:04:01,500 and not only are you upset because you had lots of stitches in your legs, 79 00:04:01,567 --> 00:04:05,400 according to you, probably in discomfort, 80 00:04:05,467 --> 00:04:08,200 but now you have an argument with your neighbor 81 00:04:08,266 --> 00:04:11,333 over why he didn't come over sooner to help you. 82 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,200 I wouldn't really call it an argument, 83 00:04:13,266 --> 00:04:16,600 because it was just me trying to figure out why he reacted the way he did. 84 00:04:16,667 --> 00:04:19,100 It didn't make me… I didn't understand, because I… you know, 85 00:04:19,166 --> 00:04:22,266 most people go over and try to help someone when something like that happens. 86 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,500 And his answer was, "I didn't wanna be liable for what happened to you." 87 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:29,033 I was like, "How are you gonna be liable for what happened to me on my property?" 88 00:04:29,100 --> 00:04:31,934 I don't know. So when your husband came home from work… 89 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,934 - [Kathi] Mhm. - [Judy] …or did you call him? 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,333 I assume you have a cell phone. 91 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,567 Did you call him from the medical facility that you went to? 92 00:04:37,633 --> 00:04:40,400 [Kathi] I called him from the yard whenever I got hurt. 93 00:04:40,567 --> 00:04:42,467 I was talking to him on the phone, on my cell phone. 94 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,900 Oh. So you could've actually have called 911? 95 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:47,500 - Yeah, I didn't need him to call… - [Judy] Shh. 96 00:04:47,567 --> 00:04:50,600 When he came home from work, did you have a conversation with him 97 00:04:50,667 --> 00:04:53,967 about your interaction with Mr. Hart that day? 98 00:04:54,033 --> 00:04:56,133 - I do believe I told him. - [Judy] That's either a yes or a no. 99 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,734 - I said I do believe I told him. - [Judy] Of course you did. 100 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,300 What do you mean you do believe you told him? 101 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,900 - That's… the answer is yes. - [Kathi] Well, yes. Yes. 102 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:06,767 Now, we're going to move forward to, I think, the 13th. 103 00:05:06,834 --> 00:05:09,500 - Is that the… that's the day? - Yes, the [indistinct]. 104 00:05:09,667 --> 00:05:14,667 [Judy] Now, Mr. Jones, tell me your version of the interaction that you had. 105 00:05:14,734 --> 00:05:19,233 Now, let's use this as a backdrop. So I want you to know where I'm coming from. 106 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:24,967 The two neighbors have had some problems over noise complaints, 107 00:05:25,033 --> 00:05:27,834 from the time he actually moved into his property. 108 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,300 - [Kathi] Mhm. - [Judy] Then your wife is injured 109 00:05:30,367 --> 00:05:32,967 and as far as she told you, 110 00:05:33,033 --> 00:05:38,633 Mr. Hart was less than sympathetic in coming over to help her when she was hurt, 111 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:40,133 - correct? - [Brian] Correct. 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,133 - She told you all of that. - Right. 113 00:05:42,266 --> 00:05:44,467 [Judy] And then with that in mind, 114 00:05:44,533 --> 00:05:49,934 between the 9th and the 13th, you had had no interaction with Mr. Hart? 115 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:52,433 - No, ma'am. - [Judy] Okay. So tell me… 116 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:54,000 - He did, actually. - Shh. 117 00:05:54,066 --> 00:05:55,133 [theme music] 118 00:05:57,367 --> 00:06:00,200 "Brian told me he doesn't call 911. 119 00:06:00,266 --> 00:06:02,567 - He takes matters into his own hands." - Yes, ma'am. 120 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:05,567 Did you say something to him, Mr. Jones, 121 00:06:05,633 --> 00:06:09,233 about not calling 911 to your house? Careful. 122 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,400 [theme music] 123 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:23,900 [announcer] Kathi Burg-Jones and Brian Jones claimed their neighbor, Jason Hart, 124 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,300 is responsible for Jeep damages 125 00:06:26,767 --> 00:06:29,600 and for filing a false restraining order against them. 126 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,633 Jason is countersuing for noise harassment. 127 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:39,533 [Judy] Now, tell me what your version of what happened with this knife machete 128 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,667 and why you even had any conversation with him? 129 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:48,000 - Go ahead. Because I read your complaint. - Okay. I was out on my property, 130 00:06:48,066 --> 00:06:50,567 cleaning the brush off, chopping it down with a machete. 131 00:06:50,633 --> 00:06:52,166 And I was sharpening my knife 132 00:06:52,233 --> 00:06:55,400 and I'd seen him over there trying to stand up a wall by himself. 133 00:06:55,700 --> 00:06:57,500 And I just thought to myself, be a neighbor, 134 00:06:57,567 --> 00:07:00,333 and go over ask him if he needs some help, you know, lifting it up. 135 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,900 And at the time I was sharpening my machete 136 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,033 - and I walked over there and I asked him… - And what did you say to him? 137 00:07:06,166 --> 00:07:09,800 I said, "Hey, man. Do you need some help to stand that wall up? 138 00:07:09,867 --> 00:07:12,133 Do you need help putting that up?" I said, "I can help you, you know." 139 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,667 I said, "I'm not doing nothing right now." 140 00:07:14,734 --> 00:07:16,333 I said, "I can help you stand it up if you want." 141 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,467 And he goes, "Oh, no, I gotta take some timbers down," or something, 142 00:07:19,533 --> 00:07:21,567 something that was standing up in the middle of the trailer. 143 00:07:21,633 --> 00:07:23,200 I said, "Well, if you need any help just let me know." 144 00:07:23,266 --> 00:07:24,934 I said, "I can come over here and help you stand it up 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,700 whenever you get ready to put it up." You know, just trying to be neighborly. 146 00:07:27,967 --> 00:07:31,233 And I had already forgotten all about the other stuff that had happened, 147 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:34,700 you know, it comes in my mind and out of mind as quick as it enters. 148 00:07:34,767 --> 00:07:38,600 I don't dwell on stuff like that, you know, I just… it's no big deal to me. 149 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:40,433 And… I just asked him if he needed some help. 150 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,266 [Judy] You mean the fact that your wife wasn't helped 151 00:07:42,333 --> 00:07:46,133 and had severe damage to her leg, she had to have stitches, 152 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,333 it just went out of your head? 153 00:07:47,734 --> 00:07:52,400 No. The prior conversation that we had had went out of my head 154 00:07:52,533 --> 00:07:56,533 because I didn't have no kind of ill feelings against him or nothing. 155 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,600 I was just trying to be a neighbor and help him out to stand his wall up 156 00:07:59,667 --> 00:08:03,433 to get… help him put it in place, 'cause I seen he was having trouble getting it up. 157 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:04,734 And I didn't think nothing of it 158 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,266 whenever I had the machete in my hand and I was sharpening it. 159 00:08:07,333 --> 00:08:08,367 It wasn't no big deal to me. 160 00:08:08,433 --> 00:08:11,367 I was just sharpening my knife to go over there and clear some more brush off. 161 00:08:11,734 --> 00:08:13,633 You know, I didn't have no ill intentions 162 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:15,934 about trying to use it on him or anything else. 163 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,967 There weren't no intimidations there. 164 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:20,233 Not like whenever you come up to the house with a gun 165 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:25,166 and start shooting it 50, 60 times in a row, you know. That there is intimidation. 166 00:08:25,233 --> 00:08:27,734 - Is that what happened with the machete? - No, ma'am. 167 00:08:27,967 --> 00:08:30,667 - [Brian scoffs] - [Judy] Tell me your… tell me again, 168 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:32,900 did he come up and ask you if he could help you? 169 00:08:32,967 --> 00:08:35,500 - Yes, ma'am. - Did he say it in just that way? 170 00:08:35,667 --> 00:08:36,800 [Jason] No, it's not what he said. 171 00:08:36,867 --> 00:08:39,533 It's the fact that he couldn't have seen me from where he was working. 172 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,033 - Yes, I could. - [Judy] Shh. 173 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:43,033 Is what he came up and said to you, 174 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:44,934 - "Can I help you?" - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,633 - [Judy] And you said? - [Jason] "No, thank you." 176 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:47,867 - [Judy] And he said? - "Okay." 177 00:08:47,934 --> 00:08:49,200 You know, and went off the property. 178 00:08:49,266 --> 00:08:51,233 - He said, "Okay," and left? - [Jason] Yes. 179 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:54,867 And it was based on that interaction that you filed for a protective order? 180 00:08:54,934 --> 00:08:56,233 Yes, because I went to the police and asked them what I… 181 00:08:56,300 --> 00:08:59,567 [Judy] Shh. You can't tell me what the police told you, sir. 182 00:08:59,633 --> 00:09:00,967 - That's hearsay. - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 183 00:09:01,033 --> 00:09:05,600 [Judy] I'd like to see what you wrote in your affidavit seeking a protective order. 184 00:09:07,533 --> 00:09:08,533 I'll have it. 185 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:18,433 And they dismissed your protective order after review? 186 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:20,700 Yes, ma'am. Because they said that it only constituted one out of two… 187 00:09:20,767 --> 00:09:24,133 [Judy] Just a second… Determines… "The court hears testimony," 188 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,633 which means they took testimony, 189 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:28,500 and they determined that there was insufficient evidence 190 00:09:28,567 --> 00:09:30,500 - to justify a full protective order. - Yes, ma'am. 191 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:36,500 [Judy] I would have ruled the same way. Okay. So this actually further expands 192 00:09:36,567 --> 00:09:39,867 what the problems have been, at least in your perception of them. 193 00:09:39,934 --> 00:09:43,934 He said, "I'm afraid of the respondent, Brian Jones. 194 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,133 Brian Jones is a drug dealer with constant foot and vehicle traffic, 195 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:53,433 who has threatened me and brought a weapon within three feet of me at my house." 196 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:54,967 Is that the machete you're talking about? 197 00:09:55,033 --> 00:09:56,033 - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] Okay. 198 00:09:56,467 --> 00:10:01,266 "He knows that I am working with the police to stop the crime on my road. 199 00:10:01,333 --> 00:10:04,667 He has rage issues and is addicted to drugs. 200 00:10:04,734 --> 00:10:08,734 On September 9th, Brian told me he doesn't call 911. 201 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,133 - He takes matters into his own hands." - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 202 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,900 - [Judy] You didn't tell me that. - I'm sorry. Yes, ma'am. 203 00:10:12,967 --> 00:10:15,000 - [Judy] Did he say he doesn't call 911? - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 204 00:10:15,066 --> 00:10:18,033 After I told him that I was gonna bring a lawsuit against him because of the dogs, 205 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:20,166 he said that he would take that lawsuit, 206 00:10:20,233 --> 00:10:21,734 wipe his […] with it, and throw it on the ground. 207 00:10:21,934 --> 00:10:26,233 Did you say something to him, Mr. Jones, about… careful… 208 00:10:26,633 --> 00:10:30,333 About not calling 911 to your house? Careful. 209 00:10:30,633 --> 00:10:35,700 Did you say anything to him about not calling 911 to your house? 210 00:10:35,767 --> 00:10:37,900 - That's a yes or a no. - I… yes, I told him… 211 00:10:37,967 --> 00:10:39,667 - [Judy] Okay, just a… - …that I do not call 911. 212 00:10:39,734 --> 00:10:42,100 …just a second. That's what I thought. 213 00:10:42,166 --> 00:10:47,767 So at the time you went over to him, and that was on what date? On the 13th? 214 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,500 - Uh, the… - [Judy tuts, hits desk] 215 00:10:51,033 --> 00:10:52,834 I told you the same thing I'm telling him. 216 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:54,467 - [Brian] Yeah, the 13th. - If he doesn't know the answer, 217 00:10:54,533 --> 00:10:55,767 he'll say, "I don't know the answer." 218 00:10:55,834 --> 00:10:58,066 - Was that on the 13th? - [Brian] Yes. 219 00:10:58,133 --> 00:11:01,233 [Judy] Okay. So, on the 13th, you said to him, 220 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:05,600 - "I don't call 911." Correct? - Yes, ma'am. I said that. 221 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:09,100 And tell me, why did you say that to him? 222 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:10,967 - Why? Because… - [Judy] Yeah, just a second, 223 00:11:11,033 --> 00:11:12,266 - put it down. - …because he was threat… 224 00:11:12,333 --> 00:11:14,967 he was threatening me with calling the cops on me 225 00:11:15,033 --> 00:11:17,166 and taking me to jail… taking me to court 226 00:11:17,233 --> 00:11:19,233 - for my dogs barking. - [mutters] Taking our dogs. 227 00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:22,333 - Your case is dismissed. - I didn't say anything. 228 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,767 [Judy] Yes, you did. Yes, you did. And you're annoying. 229 00:11:24,834 --> 00:11:26,934 You haven't even given me a chance to say anything. 230 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,767 - [Judy] I just had a whole… - I was… I'm more so… 231 00:11:28,834 --> 00:11:30,967 [Judy] I just had a whole discussion with you, what do you mean? 232 00:11:31,033 --> 00:11:34,767 I asked you all kinds of questions, now I'm asking your husband questions 233 00:11:35,433 --> 00:11:36,867 - and you're not to interfere. - Yes, ma'am. 234 00:11:36,934 --> 00:11:38,200 - [Judy] Do you understand? - I understand, ma'am. 235 00:11:38,266 --> 00:11:41,400 [Judy] And you apologized already once. You want me to read it back to you? 236 00:11:41,467 --> 00:11:42,700 - [Kathi] No, ma'am. - Okay. Very good. 237 00:11:42,767 --> 00:11:44,400 [Kathi] I just… can I say something please? 238 00:11:44,467 --> 00:11:46,567 - No. No. You can say nothing. - [Kathi] I just… 239 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:53,633 [Judy] It's all coming together. Now, so the second issue in this case 240 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:00,533 is whether or not Mr. Hart had sufficient basis in his mind 241 00:12:00,667 --> 00:12:05,300 to seek a protective order even if it was ultimately dismissed. 242 00:12:05,367 --> 00:12:09,300 And the answer is he had sufficient basis… 243 00:12:09,367 --> 00:12:13,633 - [Brian] Uh-uh. - …based upon what you said to him 244 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:19,867 and what had transpired with your wife to feel as if he was threatened. 245 00:12:19,934 --> 00:12:23,600 So, your first part of your lawsuit was for the damage to your car 246 00:12:23,667 --> 00:12:27,934 and for that, you're being awarded $1,000 to have your car fixed. 247 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,133 You're gonna go through insurance. The second part of your lawsuit 248 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,333 is that you want to be compensated for a false protective order, 249 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,767 that part of your complaint is dismissed because in my judgment, 250 00:12:39,834 --> 00:12:45,667 Mr. Hart had sufficient basis to think that he might be in danger, and he wanted… 251 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,367 it's not a question, Mr. Jones, you can shake your head all you like, 252 00:12:50,433 --> 00:12:52,533 - it's a perception of his… - [Jason] Mine. 253 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,400 [Judy] …not yours, of his, so that part of your lawsuit is dismissed. 254 00:12:57,467 --> 00:13:01,233 The last part of your lawsuit has to do with harassment. 255 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:04,033 Now, who is going to tell me… 256 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:05,400 - you are going to tell me… - Please. 257 00:13:05,467 --> 00:13:10,200 [Judy] …about the harassment. Tell me the first instance of harassment. 258 00:13:10,266 --> 00:13:14,400 I would imagine that we have to go with saying that it was right after 259 00:13:14,700 --> 00:13:20,066 the thing… the ex parte was dismissed and we… he started… 260 00:13:20,133 --> 00:13:25,000 [Judy] So that… right after the ex parte was dismissed, 261 00:13:25,066 --> 00:13:30,000 - that would have been September 25th. - Correct. 262 00:13:30,066 --> 00:13:34,834 - So after September 25th. Go ahead. - Okay. And that was when… 263 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:36,667 - [Judy] Don't read anything. - Okay. No, I'm just… 264 00:13:36,734 --> 00:13:38,033 - You should be able to tell me. - [Kathi] I'm sorry. 265 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:39,100 [theme music] 266 00:13:40,767 --> 00:13:44,400 They actually were able to get themselves added onto my power account, cut my power. 267 00:13:44,467 --> 00:13:47,066 She's actually on my power account right now with her phone number. 268 00:13:47,133 --> 00:13:49,834 [Judy] Ms. Jones, he's gonna show me a document 269 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:51,734 - so don't shake your head no. - [Kathi] Okay. 270 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,133 Are you on his power account? 271 00:13:57,934 --> 00:13:59,533 [theme music] 272 00:14:04,133 --> 00:14:09,333 [announcer] Kathi Burg-Jones and Brian Jones want their neighbor, Jason Hart, 273 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,834 to pay for Jeep damages caused by his turkey. 274 00:14:13,133 --> 00:14:17,834 Jason claims Kathi and Brian have harassed him with loud noise. 275 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:19,100 - [Judy] Go ahead. - [Kathi] Okay. 276 00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:21,667 After September 25th when it was dismissed and everything, 277 00:14:21,867 --> 00:14:25,233 the turkey… it wasn't long after that that the turkey attacked my car 278 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:27,600 and I went over to him and he told me to get him estimates 279 00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:29,233 and so I went to go get them. 280 00:14:29,567 --> 00:14:32,667 At the time, he had been calling and giving us… 281 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:35,266 calling the police saying that our dogs bark, this and that 282 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:36,667 which… they're in the house most of the time. 283 00:14:36,734 --> 00:14:39,734 But anyway, I was still nervous over all the harassment 284 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,867 and everything he was doing and all that. 285 00:14:40,934 --> 00:14:44,400 I actually got shingles and was in the hospital on my birthday 286 00:14:44,467 --> 00:14:47,200 and I finally got out of there and all that I got the estimates to him, 287 00:14:47,567 --> 00:14:50,433 and he told me that his… you know, "My turkey did it." And this and that. 288 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:54,467 And so then I went to file the small claims case and when that happened, 289 00:14:54,533 --> 00:14:58,033 the day he was served which was, I believe, the 16th or the 15th… 290 00:14:58,100 --> 00:14:59,433 - [Judy] Of what? - [Kathi] … that was when… 291 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:04,000 - it was the 15th of February. - [Judy] Just a sec. 292 00:15:04,066 --> 00:15:09,967 So, so far I don't hear any harassing but… Shh. So far there's no harassing behavior, 293 00:15:10,033 --> 00:15:14,433 so the 15th of February, you served him with a small claim summons? 294 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:15,500 - Correct. - [Judy] Okay. 295 00:15:15,567 --> 00:15:16,800 And what happened after that? 296 00:15:16,867 --> 00:15:20,633 Then he started calling the police and having them come out to our house at night 297 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:23,300 and then the next day in the morning and then the next night, 298 00:15:23,367 --> 00:15:25,667 telling them our dogs were barking when I was doing… 299 00:15:25,734 --> 00:15:28,867 [stammers] I was bringing the dogs in and trying to keep them from barking, 300 00:15:28,934 --> 00:15:31,467 we stand at our backdoor and make our dogs hurry and come back in 301 00:15:31,533 --> 00:15:34,266 and tell them not to bark which, we're in the woods, there's coyotes, 302 00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:35,800 all kinds of stuff out there, they're gonna bark, 303 00:15:35,867 --> 00:15:38,200 but we're doing everything we can to try to accommodate him 304 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:41,800 and make the dogs not bark so he would quit calling the police 305 00:15:41,867 --> 00:15:43,700 because… I mean, he's trying to get our dogs taken. 306 00:15:43,767 --> 00:15:45,800 [Judy] Is that what you're complaining about, 307 00:15:45,867 --> 00:15:47,000 that he called the police to complain about… 308 00:15:47,066 --> 00:15:50,066 - [Kathi] Many times. - …to complain about your dogs? 309 00:15:50,133 --> 00:15:53,400 And about Brian working on the other property because he works a full-time job. 310 00:15:53,467 --> 00:15:55,166 - [Judy] Shh. - Yeah. 311 00:15:55,233 --> 00:15:57,133 He can't complain about him working, 312 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,400 - he could complain about noise. - [Kathi] He does, yeah. 313 00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:01,367 Well, that's noise. He's allowed to do that. 314 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:03,533 That part of your complaint is also dismissed. 315 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,066 For harassment, he's allowed to do all of that. 316 00:16:06,133 --> 00:16:10,567 So, on your case I'm awarding you $1,000 to fix your car, 317 00:16:10,633 --> 00:16:12,767 that is Mr. Hart's responsibility. 318 00:16:12,834 --> 00:16:15,033 Mr. Hart, you have a counterclaim for harassment… 319 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,934 - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. - …for the dogs barking? 320 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,533 - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. - [Judy] Just for the dogs barking? 321 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,734 No, ma'am. Also for running their lawnmower at nighttime, 322 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,967 consecutive nights doing laps for no reason, 323 00:16:24,033 --> 00:16:27,834 running mowers with broken decks where the blade doesn't even work correctly 324 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:30,934 and basically grading the property instead of mowing it 325 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,633 to the point where they're covering my property with dust for 30 minutes or more, 326 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:37,734 to the point where I probably even have scratches on my car and… 327 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,633 - You have any audio… - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 328 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:41,033 - …video of that? - There's video evidence of all of this. 329 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:46,033 [Judy] I would like to see the audio of the dogs barking. 330 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:47,166 - [Jason] Okay. - [someone sighs] 331 00:16:47,233 --> 00:16:49,066 - I assume you have that? - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 332 00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:53,700 - [Judy] Okay. - [lawnmower buzzing] 333 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:03,500 - [banging loudly] - [dogs barking] 334 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,333 [lawnmower buzzing] 335 00:17:22,633 --> 00:17:25,166 Hmm, what's next? 336 00:17:25,233 --> 00:17:27,233 I mean, I have way more where that came from. 337 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:28,767 [Judy] No, I don't have to hear anymore. 338 00:17:28,834 --> 00:17:34,133 You know, we live in a really nice place in the summer and spring 339 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,133 and when the next door property is being renovated, 340 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:45,133 loud, machines, noise, all kinds of stuff, 341 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,567 - it's irritating for a long time. - Mhm. 342 00:17:48,633 --> 00:17:52,967 [Judy] There's nothing in that video that you showed me, Mr. Hart, actually, 343 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,567 that shows that they were doing anything maliciously, 344 00:17:55,633 --> 00:17:59,300 if they're mowing their lawn and it's a loud lawnmower, it's a loud lawnmower. 345 00:17:59,367 --> 00:18:01,800 Well, I mean, they're covering my property and my cameras 346 00:18:01,867 --> 00:18:05,633 and shining lights on my house, projecting lights onto my house 347 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:09,767 because I didn't wanna have the street light turned on. 348 00:18:09,834 --> 00:18:13,066 And so then they actually were able to get themselves added onto my power account, 349 00:18:13,133 --> 00:18:15,667 cut my power, and get the power turned on. 350 00:18:15,734 --> 00:18:18,467 She's actually on my power account right now with her phone number. 351 00:18:18,533 --> 00:18:19,700 - [Judy] Can I see that? - [Jason] Yes, ma'am. 352 00:18:19,767 --> 00:18:24,133 Ms. Jones, he's gonna show me a document so don't shake your head no. 353 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,767 - Okay. - [Judy] Are you on his power account? 354 00:18:26,834 --> 00:18:29,333 - No. No. Absolutely not. - [Judy] Is the answer yes or no? 355 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,700 - [Judy] Do you pay your own power? - Yes, we do. 356 00:18:31,767 --> 00:18:34,967 - Okay. I'd like… - …the claims… right here. 357 00:18:35,834 --> 00:18:38,600 - [Kevin] I got it. - Sorry. Sorry, man. [laughs] 358 00:18:44,367 --> 00:18:47,033 [Judy] I don't know what this is. What is it that you just gave me? 359 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:49,700 [Jason] It was an email that I received before they cut my power 360 00:18:49,767 --> 00:18:53,667 saying that her phone number was added to my account as one of the registered users. 361 00:18:53,734 --> 00:18:56,400 - Did you have it taken off? - I've added a new password, yes, ma'am. 362 00:18:56,467 --> 00:18:58,967 [Judy] Okay. Good. I don't know how that happens. 363 00:18:59,033 --> 00:19:00,500 - No, me neither. [laughs] - [Judy] She's not… yeah. 364 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:04,300 Not clever enough. Okay. Your counterclaim, Mr. Hart, is dismissed. 365 00:19:04,367 --> 00:19:06,900 Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $1,000. 366 00:19:06,967 --> 00:19:09,233 The remainder of the plaintiff's claims are dismissed. 367 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:10,533 - We're finished. Thank you very much. - [Jason] Okay. 368 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,000 - Thank you. - [Kevin] This court is adjourned. 369 00:19:12,066 --> 00:19:13,533 [theme music] 370 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,834 Honestly, I think that it was a poor decision. 371 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:20,467 Well, I mean, I'm glad that we get the car taken care of, 372 00:19:20,533 --> 00:19:23,633 but [laughs] there's so much more that needed to be addressed with him. 373 00:19:23,700 --> 00:19:27,667 These dogs are barking, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 1:00, 2:00, 3:00 at night, 374 00:19:27,734 --> 00:19:30,066 I've lost two job opportunities because I missed interviews 375 00:19:30,133 --> 00:19:33,033 - because I'm not able to sleep at night. - He keeps trying to get our dogs taken 376 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,767 and he keeps coming up with all these crazy stories and lies. 377 00:19:35,834 --> 00:19:37,000 I want to be out of this as soon as possible 378 00:19:37,066 --> 00:19:40,333 because of the circumstances that I am being under on a daily basis. 379 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,433 I really do wish he would move. 380 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:44,500 I mean, his whole thing was supposed to be fixing the house up so he could sell it, 381 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:46,667 but now he's living there and he's making our life hell. 382 00:19:46,734 --> 00:19:48,734 I think he wants our property actually. 383 00:19:49,934 --> 00:19:52,834 - Now, if somebody asked my advice… - [laughs] 384 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:55,967 about those two people as being neighbors, 385 00:19:56,033 --> 00:20:01,133 I would tell the defendant to cut his losses, sell that property, and get out. 386 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,500 - [Sarah] And never look back. - And never look back. 387 00:20:03,567 --> 00:20:05,567 - Take a loss maybe. - Mhm. 388 00:20:05,633 --> 00:20:07,100 [Judy] Maybe not, he's done some improvements… 389 00:20:07,166 --> 00:20:08,667 - Sure. - [Judy] …on the house. 390 00:20:08,734 --> 00:20:12,233 But plaintiffs have a long-term investment 391 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:14,667 - in whatever they're doing in that house. - Mhm. 392 00:20:14,734 --> 00:20:17,166 [Judy] And that's not gonna change. 393 00:20:17,233 --> 00:20:20,734 So, if this man thought he got a bargain at first… 394 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,433 It cost him in the end. 395 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:25,033 [Judy] Well, it may… yeah, it may cost him in the end, 396 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,633 may lose a few thousand dollars and a little bit of work that he's done, 397 00:20:28,834 --> 00:20:30,500 some work that he's done on the house, 398 00:20:30,734 --> 00:20:34,500 but staying there is a lifetime of aggravation. 399 00:20:34,567 --> 00:20:37,066 - So, if I were a good friend of his… - Split ways. 400 00:20:37,133 --> 00:20:39,934 [Judy] …I would tell him, cut your losses and find someplace else to live 401 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,166 and check out your neighbors 402 00:20:41,233 --> 00:20:42,967 - before you buy a bargain. - Mhm. 403 00:20:44,633 --> 00:20:48,567 [announcer] Are you having a family dispute? 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