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{\an8}He was going to be our third roommate.
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He helped out with the rent,
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then he helped himself to your girlfriend.
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Correct.
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Hey! Try not to hold each other's hands.
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Let's do the coochie-coochie
someplace else.
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This is Judy Justice.
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Kamar Jalil is suing his former roommates,
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{\an8}Katie Calderon and Amonte Nepomuceno,
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for rent and the cost of two cats.
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Court come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, everyone.
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Case 2170:
Jalil v. Calderon/Nepomuceno.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Oh, my goodness.
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- Calderon.
- Hello.
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What's your first name?
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Amonte.
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Amonte?
- Yeah.
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Good, it's much easier
than your last name to pronounce.
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Mr. Jalil, this roughly
is what the case is about.
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You and Miss Calderon
were in a relationship
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for a period of time.
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You decided to take an apartment.
You were both on the lease.
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- So far correct?
- Correct.
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Your arrangement with Miss Calderon,
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which seems to be consistent
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in both your complaint
and your answer
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is that you had a much better-paying job.
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She was going to provide the food
and some other stuff for the house,
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and you were going to be
covering the rent when you lived together.
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- Which you did.
- Correct.
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There came a time when Amonte,
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who was a friend of yours,
came to live with you.
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{\an8}According to you,
he was going to help out with the rent.
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{\an8}Correct.
He came, he lived with you,
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he helped out with the rent
for maybe a period of time,
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and then he helped himself
to your girlfriend.
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{\an8}Correct.
Now they're a couple.
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{\an8}When you were no longer a couple
with Miss Caldeorn,
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she stayed in the apartment
for a period of time.
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But then they both left.
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Correct.
And you're suing both of them
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for rent and for the return
of two cats
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that they took when they left.
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- You claim the cats are yours.
- That's correct.
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That's what the case is about.
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And some cat expenses
in the event that I let them keep the cat.
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Cats. Two cats.
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So when did you and Miss Calderon
sign a lease together?
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We signed the lease together
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at the end of July
with the landlord present.
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July of 2022?
- July of 2021.
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And it was for a year. Correct.
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And you had a job working for whom, sir?
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{\an8}I worked for a company called Stairs.
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What do they do?
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They provide medical equipment
to hospitals all over the world.
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How long have you been working for them?
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I'm going to have eight years
under my belt this year.
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And when you moved into the apartment
in July of 2021,
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what kind of work was Miss Calderon doing?
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At the time, she was working at an,
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I want to say, an animal hotel.
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It was a pet day care boarding facility. Okay.
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Were you an hourly employee?
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I was an hourly employee.
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And I am correct
that when you moved in in July,
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your arrangement was that you were
going to pay the rent.
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That was...
The arrangement.
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Correct.
When did Amonte
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come to live with you?
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About August to...
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That's not correct.
Shh!
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Just...
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Amonte was going to be
our third roommate.
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You mean one, two, three. Correct.
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{\an8}Well, you're not roommates, really.
You and the defendant, Miss Calderon,
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{\an8}were not roommates,
you shared a room.
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{\an8}We shared a room, and...
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And Amonte was going to live where?
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In another room.
And what was your arrangement
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with Amonte with regard to paying rent?
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We would split the rent three ways.
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Is that correct?
- Yes.
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And how much was your share of the rent?
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I would say approximately 927.
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How long did you live there?
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I was there when they signed the lease.
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I watched it all happen
when they signed the lease.
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I came in, they signed everything.
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Well, you didn't sign the lease.
- I did not.
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But you were there
from the beginning.
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Yes.
And it was your agreement,
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{\an8}with the plaintiff,
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{\an8}- that you would pay a third of the rent?
- Yes.
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Great.
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We asked the landlord to--
Okay, so--
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Hey! Try not to hold each other's hands.
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Let's do the coochie-coochie
someplace else.
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So you agreed with the plaintiff
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that despite the fact
that you were not on the lease,
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you were going to assume
the responsibility
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of a third of the rent:
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- $927.
- Yes.
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So you moved in July,
August, September,
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October, November, December,
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January, February, March.
You left in April?
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Yeah.
So you were there nine months.
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- Yes.
- Did you pay rent for the nine months?
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- Yes, ma'am.
- Is that correct?
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He paid rent
for about seven and a half months.
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Okay. And then you left?
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- Yes.
- Why did you leave?
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{\an8}I decided to leave
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{\an8}because he decided to go
to another place he was offered.
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What do you mean
he decided to go to another place?
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He got a place from his grandparents
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in another city,
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so I couldn't hold down the rent with her,
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so I decided to leave to save money,
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and go back to my parents' house.
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Now, Mr. Jalil,
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you see, you don't make up
a story like that,
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like he just told me.
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A lot of that has the ring of truth to it.
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Where are you living now?
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My grandparents' house,
in an in-law unit.
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So, when did you tell them
that you were going to a different place?
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In March.
When did you leave?
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I left in July.
Did you let him know
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that you were staying
until the end of the lease?
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I...
I what?
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- I... discussed it--
- I what?
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I discussed with them
that I would be leaving,
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but I would stick around
to help them find
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either a different location,
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or even suggesting that we all
went back to our respective families,
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just to, you know, call it--
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Mr. Jalil, this isn't working for you.
I have to tell you something, sir.
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This case is not working for you at all.
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And it's only because Mr. Amonte
is very direct with me
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that you're suing them for $10,000.
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Where does that come from in your mind?
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Your agreement with her
was you were going to pay the rent,
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but never out of pocket.
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Your agreement was
you were going to pay the rent.
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He paid his rent when he was there.
He paid his one-third.
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You then told them you were leaving.
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That's a whole different story than what
you wrote in your complaint, Mr. Jalil.
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- Do you understand?
- Correct.
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It's a whole different story.
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So at best, Amonte would owe you
for three months' rent
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if they just left.
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But you told them that you were leaving.
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{\an8}Now, when did you find out
that they were a couple?
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{\an8}I found out at the end of April.
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- Were you all living together?
- Yes.
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So you just had two months
left to the lease.
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So he was paying you.
He paid you in March.
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You had May, June.
You signed the lease in July.
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So it was over at the end of June.
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June 30th.
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It had been over at the end of July,
Your Honor.
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Well, she doesn't owe you
any money for rent.
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{\an8}At most, he owes you two months' rent.
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{\an8}Tell me why you left.
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{\an8}My job doesn't pay that well,
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so I decided to go back
to my parents' house.
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When you took this apartment,
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this expensive apartment
that was almost $3,000 a month rent,
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had you had a discussion with Amonte
about moving in with you before?
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Yes.
Okay. Mr. Jalil,
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I'm reading your complaint,
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because something
wasn't registering right with me.
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You say you moved into the apartment
together in August of 2021.
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Then you go through a whole bunch of stuff
about a cat.
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And then another adopted cat.
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You said in October,
we adopted a second cat.
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"Around the same time,
a third roommate moved in
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to shoulder some of the rent."
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Well, that's not true.
He moved in right at the beginning.
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{\an8}And that was--
That was what?
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{\an8}That was, uh...
A mistake.
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{\an8}That was a mistake. Okay.
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But Amonte acknowledges
that he agreed right at the beginning.
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He volunteered the fact
that he was there at the lease signing
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because it was agreed at the lease signing
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that he was going to pay
a third of the rent.
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So, sir, you owe him rent
as long as you show me
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that you've paid the rent.
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You moved out in July?
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- Yes.
- And you paid your rent through July,
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or were you evicted?
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No, I paid my rent in July, yes.
Through July? Okay.
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1,854. Amonte, you owe him $1,854.
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That's for two months' rent.
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Got it? I'm not subtracting anything,
because you stole his girlfriend.
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That's fair.
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What were you requesting
when you filed your small claims case?
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Either the return of both cats, or $5,000.
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That's not happening for you, Mr. Jalil.
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And later today...
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There were restrictions put on the space.
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No.
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- You have to pay attention, sir...
- Okay.
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...because what I'm suggesting
is really in your favor.
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Okay--okay.
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Kamar Jalil claims his former roommates,
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{\an8}Katie Calderon
and Amonte Nepomuceno
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are wrongfully keeping his cats,
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and owe him rent money.
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Now let's deal
with the issue with the cats.
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She doesn't owe you any rent.
That was not your agreement with her.
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You moved out in July.
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August, September, October,
November, December.
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Five months ago. She's had both cats.
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{\an8}Correct.
She says they're her cats.
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{\an8}When did you first file
a small claims case?
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September of 2022.
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What were you requesting
when you filed your small claims case?
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- Be careful.
- I was requesting
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either the return of both cats,
or $5,000,
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which was the accumulated expense
of not just the cats,
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but also the expenses of her dogs as well.
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So any animal expenses.
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- for the time...
- Okay.
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That's not happening for you, Mr. Jalil.
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When the cats were either registered
or went to the vet,
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whose name is on the sheet as owner?
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I believe it was Miss Calderon.
Is that correct?
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That's correct.
Then she owns the cats.
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And she's had them
for the last five months.
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I'd suggest that you go
and adopt two more
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if you want some more cats.
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- Do you understand?
- Yes.
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You were living together as a couple.
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However, your friend Amonte has to pay you
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for the couple of months' rent
that he didn't,
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because he says, not you,
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he volunteered that that was your
agreement from the very beginning.
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So he owes you $1,854.
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We're finished. Thank you very much.
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This court is adjourned.
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{\an8}I think he's just kind of butt-hurt
that I moved on.
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{\an8}At least now I can put
everything behind me
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{\an8}and say that I did try.
248
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{\an8}I didn't think it would escalate this far.
249
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{\an8}All you can do in a situation like this
is just, you learn from it and move on.
250
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{\an8}The heart wants what the heart wants.
251
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{\an8}It's just what it is. It's life.
252
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You know what I find fascinating, Sarah?
253
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That people will write,
254
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and/or be assisted in writing a complaint
and an answer.
255
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But they read it over.
256
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This man is an intelligent man.
257
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He has a serious job for eight years.
258
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First of all, he was suing for $10,000.
259
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Come up with that money?
260
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Five thousand dollars
for the cats' expenses.
261
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Ridiculous.
But his complaint
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had really nothing--
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Even the timeline...
264
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As your clerk,
I know that is a pet peeve of yours when--
265
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I don't understand.
You know, if you're going to tell a lie...
266
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- At least tell a consistent lie.
- Right.
267
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I think the right thing happened.
268
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I think the defendant friend
admitted himself
269
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that he owed rent,
and that was great,
270
00:11:52,734 --> 00:11:54,734
even though he probably
should have just...
271
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Zipped it and not said,
"I was there when the lease was signed."
272
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"This was always our agreement,
that I was gonna be the third..."
273
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Yeah, but he was honest,
which we always appreciate.
274
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And so I think the right thing happened.
275
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I think he needs to, like you say,
put a period, move on.
276
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Anyway, all happy. And they look happy.
277
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They couldn't keep
their hands off each other.
278
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Case number 2172:
Foster/Garner v. Manziel.
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All parties please come forward.
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Jamar Foster and Shawn Garner
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{\an8}are suing record producer Lvyn Manziel
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for event costs after Lvyn
canceled their Halloween party.
283
00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,300
Who's Mr. Garner?
284
00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,033
- Mr. Foster?
- Right here.
285
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Are you going to be speaking?
You're standing in the speaking spot.
286
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Yes, ma'am.
Okay, great.
287
00:12:35,433 --> 00:12:36,700
According to what I read,
288
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the defendant rents a music studio,
is that correct?
289
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I rent a facility in which I own
a music studio.
290
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You rent in someone else's building.
291
00:12:47,900 --> 00:12:50,667
Yes.
And you're recording people.
292
00:12:51,166 --> 00:12:52,967
During the course of your business,
293
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you decided to enter
into an agreement with the defendant
294
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to use that recording studio,
295
00:12:59,834 --> 00:13:03,734
which she rents from that space
which she rents from a landlord.
296
00:13:03,734 --> 00:13:05,400
May I correct you, Your Honor?
- Yes.
297
00:13:06,734 --> 00:13:11,633
{\an8}She actually... it's a facility
that has multiple units in it.
298
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She runs a studio,
299
00:13:14,867 --> 00:13:18,834
and then there's other event space
inside of that same facility.
300
00:13:18,834 --> 00:13:22,000
Okay, give me an idea
of how large the space is.
301
00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,734
I believe we were quoted
something like 5,800 square feet.
302
00:13:26,734 --> 00:13:29,233
And so you have a music studio,
303
00:13:29,233 --> 00:13:32,333
and around it is other open space.
304
00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:33,266
Yes.
305
00:13:33,266 --> 00:13:36,633
You decided to go into some sort
of a business with her.
306
00:13:36,633 --> 00:13:38,567
- You wanted to run events.
- Yes, ma'am.
307
00:13:38,567 --> 00:13:41,367
Social events.
Nothing to do with the music studio.
308
00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:42,934
Absolutely not.
Is that correct?
309
00:13:42,934 --> 00:13:44,934
- Yes.
- And according to you,
310
00:13:44,934 --> 00:13:47,033
you gave her $6,000.
311
00:13:47,033 --> 00:13:49,166
Yes, ma'am.
Sort of front money
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00:13:49,166 --> 00:13:51,433
to start using that space.
313
00:13:51,433 --> 00:13:54,400
- Yes, ma'am.
- Subsequent to giving her the money,
314
00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,066
{\an8}according to you,
there were restrictions put on the space
315
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on the number of people you could have,
316
00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:02,266
the kind of parties you could have,
et cetera.
317
00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:04,533
No, absolutely... I apologize.
318
00:14:04,533 --> 00:14:07,433
Well, you have to pay attention, sir... Okay.
319
00:14:07,433 --> 00:14:10,533
...because what I'm suggesting
is really in your favor.
320
00:14:10,533 --> 00:14:12,300
Oh, okay.
321
00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:15,033
So it's really in your favor,
so you have to think.
322
00:14:15,033 --> 00:14:16,000
Okay.
323
00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,800
Subsequent to giving her--
that means after giving her the money,
324
00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,266
restrictions were put on
the kinds of events
325
00:14:23,266 --> 00:14:25,667
and the number of people
you could have in this space.
326
00:14:25,667 --> 00:14:29,166
- Is that true or not true?
- That is absolutely true.
327
00:14:29,166 --> 00:14:31,967
No, that's not--
I'll get to you in a second.
328
00:14:31,967 --> 00:14:35,066
- Okay.
- And you want your $6,000 back.
329
00:14:35,066 --> 00:14:36,900
Yes, ma'am, and--
- That's what it's about.
330
00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:41,467
{\an8}The defendant does not deny
that you gave her $6,000.
331
00:14:41,467 --> 00:14:43,367
{\an8}And then I'm going to hear
what her defense is.
332
00:14:43,367 --> 00:14:45,233
{\an8}So I want you to tell me
333
00:14:45,233 --> 00:14:48,834
{\an8}when, for the first time,
did you have a discussion
334
00:14:48,934 --> 00:14:53,367
{\an8}with the defendant
about going into this business venture
335
00:14:53,367 --> 00:14:55,700
{\an8}where you would front the money
336
00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:58,600
and whatever events you would have there,
337
00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,367
you would reap the benefit,
the financial benefit, from that.
338
00:15:02,367 --> 00:15:04,066
When did you have
that discussion with her?
339
00:15:04,066 --> 00:15:09,467
Okay, so we met Lvyn
at the end of August of 2022.
340
00:15:09,467 --> 00:15:12,300
We actually signed
an agreement pretty fast.
341
00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:16,867
We signed the contract agreement
on September 1st.
342
00:15:16,867 --> 00:15:18,734
- May I see the agreement?
- Yes, ma'am.
343
00:15:18,734 --> 00:15:21,533
There is no agreement signed,
so I don't know how it could be signed.
344
00:15:21,533 --> 00:15:23,600
She keeps arguing that--
Just a second.
345
00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,834
- Could you be quiet?
- Yes, ma'am.
346
00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:36,667
So in your hand--
- Shh!
347
00:15:36,667 --> 00:15:40,233
What's--
That's the studio that she runs.
348
00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:44,333
Sarah, you have to sort of explain it,
because I don't see signatures.
349
00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:47,000
You know, I'm used to looking at contracts
where people sign things.
350
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,533
But I know you can sign things
by DocuSign now.
351
00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:51,800
Your signature isn't on here.
352
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,867
Yes, ma'am.
That looks like a signature
353
00:15:53,867 --> 00:15:56,133
from a DocuSign,
or some sort of online...
354
00:15:56,133 --> 00:15:57,934
Okay. Is that you?
355
00:15:57,934 --> 00:16:02,066
This was a proposal that I did,
I did not even own yet as a DBA.
356
00:16:02,066 --> 00:16:03,367
Just a second.
357
00:16:03,367 --> 00:16:05,367
It's getting better. Don't say anything.
358
00:16:05,367 --> 00:16:07,800
This is your proposal.
Now I'm going to read it.
359
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,400
Okay.
You're Masterpiece Management?
360
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,333
Yes, ma'am.
361
00:16:12,133 --> 00:16:14,266
Okay, well, this is sort of easy.
362
00:16:14,266 --> 00:16:16,200
You prepared this proposal.
363
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,200
{\an8}- Speak.
- Yes, after--
364
00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,433
Just a second.
You prepared this proposal.
365
00:16:20,533 --> 00:16:23,633
{\an8}- Yes, ma'am.
- And as a result of this proposal,
366
00:16:23,633 --> 00:16:28,567
you received and deposited $6,000.
367
00:16:28,567 --> 00:16:31,333
- Yes.
- Well, then you have a binding contract.
368
00:16:31,333 --> 00:16:35,033
Okay? So that's what I'm telling you.
You have a binding contract.
369
00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:41,066
And there is nothing in this contract
that limits the kinds of events
370
00:16:41,066 --> 00:16:42,600
or the number of people,
371
00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,166
or anything else
with regard to this space.
372
00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:50,400
All it says is, "Business activities,
event planning, and event rentals."
373
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,834
Nothing else.
And this is your proposal,
374
00:16:52,834 --> 00:16:58,300
so the terms of it are construed
if there's any material question,
375
00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:00,900
since you prepared the agreement,
376
00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:06,133
which became a contract
once you accepted their $6,000.
377
00:17:06,133 --> 00:17:09,767
{\an8}I view the terms of the agreement
most harshly against you,
378
00:17:09,767 --> 00:17:11,200
{\an8}because you prepared the document.
379
00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,934
And it says, "This agreement
cannot be amended
380
00:17:13,934 --> 00:17:16,200
without the written consent
of all parties."
381
00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,266
Yes.
Yes.
382
00:17:17,266 --> 00:17:19,400
So, signed the agreement,
you got the money,
383
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,800
and then at some point,
according to them and according to you,
384
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,934
you made certain limitations
on the kinds of events,
385
00:17:27,934 --> 00:17:29,834
the numbers of people, et cetera.
386
00:17:29,834 --> 00:17:32,266
That is--
Now, that happened
387
00:17:32,266 --> 00:17:34,934
according to you,
because you do not own that space.
388
00:17:34,934 --> 00:17:36,433
You rent that space.
389
00:17:36,433 --> 00:17:39,367
And there was a problem
with the first party that they threw.
390
00:17:39,367 --> 00:17:42,000
- Correct.
- We're not talking Gone with the Wind.
391
00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,433
We're not talking
about a six-volume masterpiece.
392
00:17:45,433 --> 00:17:47,467
We're talking about a yes or a no.
393
00:17:49,734 --> 00:17:53,066
Based upon this proposal,
they gave you $6,000,
394
00:17:53,066 --> 00:17:55,266
which you deposited
into your bank account.
395
00:17:55,266 --> 00:17:59,467
That means a contract was created.
Bup! That's the agreement.
396
00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:00,767
I'm telling you, that's the law.
397
00:18:12,233 --> 00:18:15,266
Jamar Foster and Shawn Garner
398
00:18:15,266 --> 00:18:17,834
{\an8}claim record producer Lvyn Manziel
399
00:18:17,834 --> 00:18:20,533
broke their agreement
by canceling their event.
400
00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,633
Lvyn is countersuing
for the cost of a recording session.
401
00:18:24,633 --> 00:18:27,333
Okay, there was a party
that got out of hand.
402
00:18:27,333 --> 00:18:28,667
Yes, ma'am.
Okay.
403
00:18:28,667 --> 00:18:32,734
{\an8}And after that party that got out of hand,
too many people or whatever it was,
404
00:18:32,734 --> 00:18:34,934
{\an8}your landlord complained.
405
00:18:34,934 --> 00:18:36,266
{\an8}Yes.
Okay.
406
00:18:36,266 --> 00:18:37,667
And it was after that
407
00:18:37,667 --> 00:18:40,367
that you told your two partners that the--
408
00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:42,266
We are not partners.
409
00:18:42,266 --> 00:18:44,166
Yeah, according to this, you are.
410
00:18:44,166 --> 00:18:45,633
We didn't finalize the agreement.
411
00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:47,567
This is a finalized agreement, madam.
412
00:18:47,567 --> 00:18:49,734
I just said to you--
I want you to pay attention.
413
00:18:49,734 --> 00:18:51,667
This is your proposal.
414
00:18:51,667 --> 00:18:54,934
Based upon this proposal,
they gave you $6,000,
415
00:18:54,934 --> 00:18:57,200
which you deposited
into your bank account.
416
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,233
That means a contract was created.
417
00:18:59,233 --> 00:19:02,633
Bup! That's the agreement.
I'm telling you, that's the law.
418
00:19:02,633 --> 00:19:04,934
Okay.
You prepared the proposal.
419
00:19:04,934 --> 00:19:07,100
You signed it. They said, "Okay."
420
00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:10,166
And they fulfilled their part
of the agreement
421
00:19:10,166 --> 00:19:13,200
by giving you $6,000, which you accepted.
422
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,533
Got it? Got it?
423
00:19:15,533 --> 00:19:16,734
And you can't,
424
00:19:16,734 --> 00:19:19,967
according to the agreement
that you prepared,
425
00:19:19,967 --> 00:19:22,800
modify this agreement any other way
426
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,767
than a written contract
signed by both parties.
427
00:19:25,767 --> 00:19:27,333
You can't change the rules.
428
00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:29,667
Did you know that this was rented space?
429
00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:32,133
No, we didn't have all of the details
about the place.
430
00:19:32,133 --> 00:19:34,533
Well, see, next time
you should know what you're dealing with.
431
00:19:34,533 --> 00:19:36,967
Whether she's the owner
or whether she's not the owner.
432
00:19:36,967 --> 00:19:39,700
Whether she's a renter,
whether she has the ability
433
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:42,900
to rent out, to sublease, for events.
434
00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:46,000
I mean, all these things
before you give somebody $6,000.
435
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,600
You should know that. Okay.
436
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,166
And you had one event at this space?
437
00:19:50,166 --> 00:19:55,033
{\an8}No, we actually didn't get an opportunity
to throw any events at the space at all.
438
00:19:55,033 --> 00:19:56,934
{\an8}The event that you were speaking of,
439
00:19:56,934 --> 00:20:01,900
she had partnered with another group
of promoters, individuals,
440
00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:04,233
to throw that party, so we--
441
00:20:04,233 --> 00:20:06,567
So you didn't have anything
to do with that.
442
00:20:06,567 --> 00:20:08,266
What was it,
a Halloween party or something?
443
00:20:08,266 --> 00:20:09,233
It was a Halloween party.
444
00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:11,266
- But that wasn't with you?
- No, that wasn't.
445
00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:12,834
Is that correct?
446
00:20:12,834 --> 00:20:15,333
He was part of the event--
- Is that correct?
447
00:20:15,333 --> 00:20:17,233
No.
That it was with other people.
448
00:20:17,233 --> 00:20:20,100
Yes, correct, it was with other people.
They were just associated with the event.
449
00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:21,400
They worked at the event--
450
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,900
I don't care
whether they worked at the event.
451
00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:27,433
You received money from other people
for an event.
452
00:20:27,433 --> 00:20:30,233
Yes, ma'am.
Well, then let's be clear.
453
00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:35,233
And after that event,
you imposed additional restrictions
454
00:20:35,233 --> 00:20:37,033
on the use of the space.
455
00:20:37,033 --> 00:20:39,400
No, Your Honor.
Just-- hold on a second.
456
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,633
They knew about the--
457
00:20:40,633 --> 00:20:42,533
Hold on, you can't tell me what they knew.
458
00:20:42,533 --> 00:20:45,367
- This is your contract.
- They called a fire marshal.
459
00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:48,867
"My landlord contacted me
that the neighbors were complaining."
460
00:20:48,867 --> 00:20:52,333
"People were parking on their lawns
90 minutes into the party."
461
00:20:52,333 --> 00:20:55,200
But it was not their party.
Somebody else paid you for it.
462
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,166
"The next party they wanted to throw
involved minors,
463
00:20:58,166 --> 00:20:59,900
and I told them absolutely not."
464
00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:01,200
Yes, ma'am.
465
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,467
"I just made it clear
what types of events would be approved."
466
00:21:04,467 --> 00:21:08,066
Well, you can't do that.
I'm just telling you, you can't do that.
467
00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:12,033
I'm not allowed to throw events
that have drugs for children.
468
00:21:12,033 --> 00:21:14,000
You have to understand something.
469
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,233
You can do whatever you want,
as long as you put it in a contract.
470
00:21:19,233 --> 00:21:21,567
You prepared the contract.
471
00:21:21,567 --> 00:21:23,600
This contract is silent
472
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,166
as to any restrictions
on the space for events.
473
00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:30,734
So you have to give them their $6,000 back
474
00:21:30,734 --> 00:21:32,600
because they didn't have an event.
475
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,367
They got nothing of value
for their $6,000.
476
00:21:36,367 --> 00:21:38,900
they were managing an artist
477
00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:42,266
{\an8}whenever I met them,
that they were responsible for paying.
478
00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:45,367
{\an8}So I'm countersuing them for $1,050.
Just a second.
479
00:21:45,367 --> 00:21:48,467
- Okay. Okay.
- Six thousand dollars they get back.
480
00:21:48,467 --> 00:21:50,533
Easy? That's a contract case.
481
00:21:50,533 --> 00:21:52,667
Now, you have a counterclaim,
482
00:21:52,667 --> 00:21:54,934
and your counterclaim is for $1,000
483
00:21:54,934 --> 00:21:58,567
because you say they owe you that
484
00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:02,433
for a rental that they did
for an artist that they manage.
485
00:22:02,433 --> 00:22:05,867
I provided my services
as a recording artist and a music producer
486
00:22:05,867 --> 00:22:06,867
for their artist.
487
00:22:06,867 --> 00:22:08,800
I provided them with two exclusive beats.
488
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,100
Well, show me the contract with them.
489
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,433
I have--
Just show me the contract.
490
00:22:13,433 --> 00:22:14,700
There is no contract.
491
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:17,467
Judgment for the plaintiff
in the amount of $6,000.
492
00:22:17,567 --> 00:22:19,166
Counterclaim's dismissed. We're done.
493
00:22:19,166 --> 00:22:20,333
This court is adjourned.
494
00:22:20,333 --> 00:22:22,800
{\an8}I was just trying to have a proposal,
not a finalized agreement.
495
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,033
{\an8}Well, I appreciate us getting
some type of justice out of the situation.
496
00:22:26,033 --> 00:22:27,767
{\an8}They come in wanting to do
multiple things.
497
00:22:27,767 --> 00:22:29,500
{\an8}I was excited for my small business.
498
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:31,867
{\an8}We tried as much as we could to help out
499
00:22:31,867 --> 00:22:34,266
{\an8}and make sure that we increased
the revenue streams
500
00:22:34,266 --> 00:22:35,567
{\an8}inside of that business.
501
00:22:35,567 --> 00:22:37,200
{\an8}They're actually
going to be hosting hookahs
502
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,900
{\an8}with children at your event,
in your space.
503
00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:41,000
{\an8}I'm not comfortable with that.
504
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,900
{\an8}To ever associate us
with any type of drug use
505
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:49,000
{\an8}or abuse, especially involving children,
that was just an inaccurate claim.
506
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,734
{\an8}I think it's better just to part ways.
507
00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:52,333
{\an8}Move on to bigger and better things.
508
00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,066
I was going to tell you,
I had the invitation, per se,
509
00:22:56,066 --> 00:22:58,734
for the event for Halloween
that they had put together.
510
00:22:58,734 --> 00:23:02,000
So they put a lot of time and effort
into planning the party.
511
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,500
It seemed very legitimate.
There was notes about security.
512
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:07,533
There was notes about no alcohol,
food and drink will be provided.
513
00:23:07,533 --> 00:23:09,700
So I could tell that they had put in
a lot of effort
514
00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:11,033
to hosting this event.
515
00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:14,066
And although it wasn't a malicious breach
on the defendant's part,
516
00:23:14,066 --> 00:23:17,800
I understand she hosted a party that
had nothing to do with the plaintiffs.
517
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,800
She got into a little bit of hot water,
518
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,934
so to be cautious
she was letting them know,
519
00:23:21,934 --> 00:23:25,066
"Hey, I can't host these types of events
with a lot of people.
520
00:23:25,066 --> 00:23:27,467
It makes the street too crowded..."
Whatever the reason.
521
00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:30,533
However, I disagree with you,
because I would have given them
522
00:23:30,533 --> 00:23:32,367
the full 10,000 that they were asking,
523
00:23:32,367 --> 00:23:35,967
because although not a malicious breach,
and I understand her concern
524
00:23:35,967 --> 00:23:38,266
after having the incident
with the previous party,
525
00:23:38,266 --> 00:23:39,767
but that's not their fault.
526
00:23:39,767 --> 00:23:45,800
You believe that the difference between
the cost of one venue to another
527
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000
should be ascribed to them.
528
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:53,700
It's interesting, but the $6,000
was to cover a lot of events.
529
00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:56,734
- This is one event.
- I see your point now,
530
00:23:56,734 --> 00:23:58,000
that you put it that way.
531
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,767
I just think if you were going
to make them whole,
532
00:24:00,767 --> 00:24:03,700
they should receive
their expectant damages as well,
533
00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:06,066
or whatever they relied on
based on the contract.
534
00:24:06,066 --> 00:24:09,667
- I accept your opinion and perspective.
- Sure.
535
00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:12,734
Want justice?
536
00:24:12,734 --> 00:24:14,867
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