1 00:00:00,533 --> 00:00:02,500 {\an8}Now, you have the pigs. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,300 I told him upfront, I do not have the money to pay you right now. 3 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:07,567 And you paid nothing? 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,467 Then you've gotta pay for all of them, sir. 5 00:00:11,567 --> 00:00:13,333 - This... No. - Oh yes. 6 00:00:13,567 --> 00:00:14,633 The pigs died. 7 00:00:14,767 --> 00:00:17,133 This is Judy Justice. 8 00:00:34,767 --> 00:00:39,333 {\an8}Logan Moore is suing his family friend, Brandon Farmin, 9 00:00:39,567 --> 00:00:44,166 {\an8}for the cost of four pigs, a hog waterer, and lost wages. 10 00:00:44,166 --> 00:00:46,200 Court come to order. All rise. 11 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:49,133 Have a seat please. 12 00:00:50,433 --> 00:00:53,600 Hello Judge, Case 2181, Moore Versus Farmin. 13 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:55,300 - Thank you. - You're welcome. 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,700 Mr. Moore, you're suing the defendant 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,266 because it is your claim that you sold him, I believe, four piglets? 16 00:01:01,266 --> 00:01:03,266 - And he never paid you for them? - Yes, your honor. 17 00:01:03,266 --> 00:01:04,700 That's what the case is about. 18 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:06,300 Now, tell me where you live. 19 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:10,033 I live in Pinehurst, but outside of Pinehurst. 20 00:01:10,166 --> 00:01:11,600 Uh, south in a valley. 21 00:01:11,734 --> 00:01:13,667 - Pinehurst is where? - Uh, in Idaho. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 So you live in Idaho? Is that a farming community? 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,066 Yes. Small. 24 00:01:18,066 --> 00:01:19,333 Who do you live there with? 25 00:01:19,533 --> 00:01:21,233 Me, my mom and my sister. 26 00:01:21,233 --> 00:01:22,700 You have a farm? Yes. 27 00:01:23,033 --> 00:01:26,367 {\an8}- How many acres? - Right now five, yes. 28 00:01:26,467 --> 00:01:29,133 {\an8}We're working on, uh, buying land next to us. 29 00:01:29,133 --> 00:01:32,000 But right now you have five acres? Tell me what you raise? 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,567 Right now we raise cows, pigs, and goats. 31 00:01:34,567 --> 00:01:36,433 You own that property? - Yes, your honor. 32 00:01:36,433 --> 00:01:40,300 How long have you owned that property and raised those farm animals? 33 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:45,767 Lived on the property my whole life, raised farm animals since I was about 16. 34 00:01:46,233 --> 00:01:47,700 And you sell them for what? 35 00:01:48,266 --> 00:01:50,233 I mainly do meat animals. 36 00:01:50,233 --> 00:01:53,100 So when it comes to beef cattle, pigs, meat goats. 37 00:01:53,433 --> 00:01:55,433 But you sell them on their own hooves? 38 00:01:55,533 --> 00:01:58,033 Yes. Yep. On the hoof, not by meat. 39 00:01:58,133 --> 00:01:59,633 And what do you do Mr. Farmin? 40 00:01:59,633 --> 00:02:02,567 An underground shift supervisor. 41 00:02:02,734 --> 00:02:05,000 What is that? - An underground miner. 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,100 Do you live close by to Mr. Moore? 43 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:08,700 {\an8}Live a couple miles above him. 44 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,567 How long have you lived there? 45 00:02:10,700 --> 00:02:12,100 Going on five years. 46 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:15,000 Tell me what interest you have in pigs? 47 00:02:15,166 --> 00:02:18,367 Me and my buddy, we have a hobby, so to speak. 48 00:02:18,367 --> 00:02:21,333 He has cattle at his place and I have raised pigs in mine. 49 00:02:21,433 --> 00:02:23,166 How many acres is your house? 50 00:02:23,166 --> 00:02:24,266 Just over five. 51 00:02:24,266 --> 00:02:26,133 - All you raise are pigs? - Correct. 52 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:29,600 - And I assume you sell the pigs for meat? - Correct. 53 00:02:30,033 --> 00:02:34,767 When was the first time, Mr. Farmin, you purchased pigs from Mr. Moore? 54 00:02:35,166 --> 00:02:36,767 Probably two years ago now. 55 00:02:37,100 --> 00:02:38,567 Okay. How many did you purchase? 56 00:02:38,567 --> 00:02:39,633 The first time? 57 00:02:39,633 --> 00:02:41,567 First time. - I think there was three. 58 00:02:41,567 --> 00:02:44,333 How much did you pay for them? I don't recall. 59 00:02:44,333 --> 00:02:46,467 Oh! How much was three piglets be? 60 00:02:46,734 --> 00:02:50,734 I wanna say, it was 400 and some change. 61 00:02:51,033 --> 00:02:52,300 For three? - Correct. 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Okay, that was a couple of years ago. 63 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,300 Correct. Did you sell those pigs? 64 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:57,333 Correct. 65 00:02:57,333 --> 00:02:58,700 They're not part of your current livestock? 66 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:00,033 No, no. Nope. 67 00:03:00,033 --> 00:03:02,633 And you keep them for how long before you sell them? 68 00:03:02,633 --> 00:03:04,400 Until they make a certain weight. 69 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,600 About 250, 280 pounds. 70 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,567 Now, when you buy them from the plaintiff or from anyone, how big are they? 71 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,233 The ones that I purchased from Logan were small, probably 30, 40 pounds maybe. 72 00:03:17,233 --> 00:03:19,700 80[Judy] So they must eat a lot for them to get to 250? 73 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:20,767 A lot. 74 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,133 And give me some idea, because I really don't know the answer to this question. 75 00:03:24,233 --> 00:03:27,633 How much would you sell a 250 pound pig for? 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,567 If they're totally butchered, cut, and wrapped, it's about eight to $900. 77 00:03:31,567 --> 00:03:33,567 If I'm doing the cutting and wrapping. 78 00:03:33,567 --> 00:03:34,700 And if you're not? 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,100 Then I sell for hanging weight. 80 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:39,567 So whatever the animal weighs after it's butchered out, 81 00:03:40,166 --> 00:03:41,700 then we set a price for that. 82 00:03:42,033 --> 00:03:44,467 Usually 3.50 to $4 a pound. 83 00:03:44,567 --> 00:03:48,367 You pay about a hundred and a quarter for them, you feed them for a year? 84 00:03:48,533 --> 00:03:50,166 {\an8}Not quite a year, but close. 85 00:03:50,266 --> 00:03:52,033 {\an8}Okay. Not quite a year. 86 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,066 {\an8}And then you sell them for six or seven times what you paid for them, 87 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:58,300 minus the feed, whatever that is. 88 00:03:58,467 --> 00:03:59,767 That is what it is to feed. 89 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,100 Except for there's more than just the feed. 90 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:04,300 There's all the time and labor that goes into cutting... 91 00:04:04,300 --> 00:04:05,333 Oh, absolutely. 92 00:04:05,333 --> 00:04:07,000 And... But you make a profit. 93 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,133 We make a profit? Yes. 94 00:04:08,133 --> 00:04:10,567 And you don't go that route. You sell them when they're young. 95 00:04:10,567 --> 00:04:11,633 Correct. 96 00:04:11,633 --> 00:04:14,233 {\an8}That's your business to sell them when they're young? 97 00:04:14,233 --> 00:04:15,300 {\an8}- Yes. - Okay. 98 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:19,600 {\an8}So the first time Mr. Farmin bought from you, evidently things went well. 99 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:23,367 Tell me about this most recent sale where there is an issue. 100 00:04:23,533 --> 00:04:28,133 Yes, so Brandon contacted me that I had four pigs available. 101 00:04:28,233 --> 00:04:30,033 Did you advertise that you had them available? 102 00:04:30,133 --> 00:04:31,200 I did not. 103 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,033 I have a family member that works at a gas station that he goes to. 104 00:04:35,033 --> 00:04:37,066 She mentioned to him that I have pigs for sale. 105 00:04:37,066 --> 00:04:38,400 Is that how you found out? 106 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,367 That is correct. - Okay. Go. 107 00:04:40,367 --> 00:04:45,533 Uh, that I had pigs for sale, and then he got my number from her. 108 00:04:45,533 --> 00:04:48,734 He contacted me, said that he is interested in my pigs. 109 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,734 We set up a time for him to come meet and look at the pigs. 110 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,600 - What date? - It was July 28th, 2022. 111 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,667 Okay. 112 00:04:57,667 --> 00:05:02,100 And then he came and looked at the pigs then, and he liked them. 113 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 - How old were they? - They were two and a half months, 114 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,467 which would be right around 40 to 45 pounds. 115 00:05:07,567 --> 00:05:09,633 And you had four of them? - Four, correct. 116 00:05:09,633 --> 00:05:12,700 Is that how many there were in the litter or however? 117 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:16,166 No, those were just the ones I had left, there were nine in that litter. 118 00:05:16,166 --> 00:05:18,066 So You had already sold five? - Yes. 119 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:19,500 - And four left? - Yes. 120 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:22,200 Is that the time you usually buy them, Mr. Farmin, 121 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,700 when they're two and a half months old? 122 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:24,767 No. 123 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,433 How old are they when you usually buy them? 124 00:05:26,433 --> 00:05:28,500 - It depends. - Depends on what? 125 00:05:28,767 --> 00:05:31,467 {\an8}Uh, price, money, where they're at. 126 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,000 {\an8}Well, so give me a range. What... 127 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:37,233 So these ones are relatively close. I didn't have to travel far. 128 00:05:37,333 --> 00:05:40,333 At the time they seem like they're pretty decent price deal. 129 00:05:40,333 --> 00:05:42,567 And what did he sell them to you for? 130 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,600 {\an8}You went to take the pigs. You didn't have any money at the moment. 131 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,734 {\an8}And what was the deal that you came up with? 132 00:05:52,033 --> 00:05:55,000 {\an8}That I would pay him for them when I was able to. 133 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,300 {\an8}Nah, that I don't believe. 134 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:58,066 {\an8}- That's... - That I don't believe. 135 00:05:58,066 --> 00:05:59,133 {\an8}That is the truth. 136 00:05:59,133 --> 00:06:01,700 {\an8}Then he's foolish because, when are you able to? 137 00:06:13,467 --> 00:06:17,667 Logan Moore claims his family friend Brandon Farmin 138 00:06:18,033 --> 00:06:20,166 {\an8}owes for the cost of four pigs. 139 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:24,066 Brandon says Logan sold him pigs that were sick. 140 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,000 Okay. What did he sell them to you for? 141 00:06:28,066 --> 00:06:31,233 I believe for the four pigs and waterer, it was 720... 142 00:06:31,233 --> 00:06:34,533 Twenty five. Four pigs and there was a water? 143 00:06:35,266 --> 00:06:36,667 Little machine that you... 144 00:06:36,667 --> 00:06:39,300 No, it was just a plastic tote 145 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,533 with nipples on it for the pigs that drink water out of. 146 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:45,300 There's no machine, no nothing to it. 147 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:50,667 So for $725 you got the four pigs and this machine? 148 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:54,233 - It's not... - Whatever, A waterer, a hog waterer. 149 00:06:54,233 --> 00:06:55,633 Correct? - Right. 150 00:06:55,633 --> 00:06:57,300 Anybody have a picture of that to show me? 151 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:58,367 I do not. No. 152 00:06:58,367 --> 00:07:01,400 I'll have to use my imagination based upon Mr. Farmin's. 153 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:03,200 - Oh, you have a picture of it, sir? - Let me. 154 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:04,300 Your Honor. 155 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:07,266 {\an8}- What? - It was $740. 156 00:07:07,266 --> 00:07:10,467 {\an8}Uh, 160 each for the pigs and then a hundred for the waterer. 157 00:07:11,066 --> 00:07:12,700 {\an8}- Judge, I do not. - Hmm? 158 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:14,767 I do not have a picture of the water. Okay. 159 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,200 The waterer was like a 275 gallon tank with four nipples on the outside of it, 160 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,333 at the bottom that you can fill with water. 161 00:07:22,333 --> 00:07:27,166 pigs, uh, drink out of the nipples easier than they do like a dish. 162 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:29,033 Whatever. I get the picture. 163 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:34,533 Okay, now let's say I take your number, Mr. Farmin $725, 164 00:07:34,533 --> 00:07:38,333 you purchased the pigs on July 28th, 2022. 165 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,433 - Is that right? - Correct. 166 00:07:40,567 --> 00:07:41,633 Did you pay him for them? 167 00:07:41,633 --> 00:07:44,300 At the time that I went and looked at the pigs, 168 00:07:45,133 --> 00:07:47,633 I told him up front, plain as day, 169 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,066 I do not have the money to pay you right now. 170 00:07:50,066 --> 00:07:51,767 Right off the bat, I don't have the money. 171 00:07:52,333 --> 00:07:55,166 {\an8}But I was under the understanding from his relative 172 00:07:55,166 --> 00:07:58,300 {\an8}that works at the gas station that he doesn't have the time. 173 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:00,000 {\an8}No, no, no, you can't tell me what the relative 174 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,467 at the gas station told you. 175 00:08:01,467 --> 00:08:03,567 - You went to see the pigs. - I went to see the pigs. 176 00:08:03,567 --> 00:08:06,700 You went to see the pigs, Mr. Farmin. And you told me a moment ago. 177 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:08,166 I said, "How much were the pigs?" 178 00:08:08,166 --> 00:08:11,166 And she's gonna read back exactly what you said. 179 00:08:11,533 --> 00:08:13,433 You asked him, "Did you pay for them?" 180 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:16,000 And he said, "At the time I went and looked at the pigs, 181 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,400 I told him up front, plain as day, 182 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,300 "I do not have the money to pay you right now." 183 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:22,433 Before that, could be something about $725. 184 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,033 How much were they? And he said the whole thing. 185 00:08:25,033 --> 00:08:28,667 Four pigs and a waterer was 725. 186 00:08:29,433 --> 00:08:32,600 $720 for the pigs and the water machine. 187 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:34,567 - 720? - 720. 188 00:08:35,467 --> 00:08:38,066 Now that's what you said. You said they were $720. 189 00:08:38,066 --> 00:08:40,300 That was the discussion when you went and looked at the pigs. 190 00:08:40,300 --> 00:08:42,133 Okay, you said, "I don't have money right now." 191 00:08:42,133 --> 00:08:43,300 Correct. And? 192 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:46,433 - So then we came up with a deal that... - Look at me, don't look down. 193 00:08:46,433 --> 00:08:49,700 So you came up with a deal you want to take the pigs and the watering thing. 194 00:08:50,033 --> 00:08:52,300 You wanted to take the pigs, you didn't have any money at the moment. 195 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:54,233 And what was the deal that you came up with? 196 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:57,533 That I would pay him for them when I was able to. 197 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:02,066 - Nah. Nah. That I don't believe. - That's... 198 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:04,467 - That I don't believe. - That is the truth. 199 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:08,233 Then he's foolish because when are you able to? 200 00:09:08,533 --> 00:09:10,633 - When I was able to. - What does that mean? 201 00:09:10,633 --> 00:09:12,433 That means you determine whether or not, 202 00:09:12,433 --> 00:09:15,467 when and if you are gonna pay for these things that you took. 203 00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:19,367 It depended on when I was able to have the money available. 204 00:09:19,533 --> 00:09:21,367 That was in July. - Correct. 205 00:09:21,567 --> 00:09:24,133 You work in a mine? - Correct. 206 00:09:24,133 --> 00:09:26,300 You work for a company? - Correct. 207 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:28,467 How long have you worked for them? Three years. 208 00:09:28,667 --> 00:09:31,433 Mm-hmm. You get paid annually or by the hour? 209 00:09:31,667 --> 00:09:34,266 Annually. And what's your pay annually? 210 00:09:34,266 --> 00:09:36,300 90,000. Give or take. 211 00:09:36,533 --> 00:09:38,600 - Give or take or what? - If I get bonuses. 212 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:42,233 Okay, you're gonna get the month of January at 1099. 213 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,367 {\an8}How much did you earn last year with bonuses? 214 00:09:45,567 --> 00:09:47,567 {\an8}I don't know. I haven't received my bonus yet. 215 00:09:47,667 --> 00:09:51,066 {\an8}Oh, you haven't received it yet. Okay. So it's $90,000 base pay. 216 00:09:51,233 --> 00:09:54,100 - Who else do you support? - My wife and five children. 217 00:09:54,233 --> 00:09:56,567 What does your wife do? - Stay-at-home mom. 218 00:09:57,100 --> 00:10:00,467 When was the last time you sold any pigs? 219 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,300 That's been a while. 220 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,066 How long? Month and year? 221 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:07,233 It's been probably six months. Six, seven months. 222 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:09,133 Okay. How many did you sell? 223 00:10:09,266 --> 00:10:12,700 - At the time? The last... - In the last six months. 224 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:14,633 - How many did you sell? - One or two. 225 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:16,533 Well, I want you to think carefully. 226 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:20,600 If you are on a salary and you have a wife and five children, that it's important, 227 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,133 if you make between eight and $900 for each pig that you have, 228 00:10:25,567 --> 00:10:28,433 - I wanna know if it's one or two. - It was two. 229 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:31,300 And let's say, I'm not gonna take the higher figure, 230 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:35,033 {\an8}I'll take the lower figure, that's $1,600. 231 00:10:35,166 --> 00:10:37,734 {\an8}You said between eight and $900 each. 232 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:41,767 {\an8}That's $1,600 plus your income from your job. 233 00:10:42,166 --> 00:10:46,300 Unfortunately that eight to $900 that I get for a pig, 234 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:47,633 that doesn't all go to me. 235 00:10:47,633 --> 00:10:51,000 I split that equally with the person that I cut with. 236 00:10:51,367 --> 00:10:54,000 The one that raises the cattle, that I spoke about. 237 00:10:54,367 --> 00:10:55,700 I don't understand, sir. 238 00:10:56,066 --> 00:10:59,533 I have the shop, I have the space, the shop, the meat cooler, 239 00:10:59,700 --> 00:11:02,600 the room at my house to hang and cut animals. 240 00:11:03,266 --> 00:11:06,567 He comes up and he helps. We split it equally right down the middle. 241 00:11:06,667 --> 00:11:10,033 {\an8}- So the eight or 900, I don't get that... - Sir, just a second. 242 00:11:10,033 --> 00:11:11,767 - He raises cattle? - Correct. 243 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:15,166 And you split his cattle with him, 244 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:19,200 and you have pigs and he splits the pigs with you? 245 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:20,533 No. No. 246 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:23,300 I let him use the shop and my meat cooler. 247 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,200 The cattle's his deal, but he comes up and helps me cut and wrap the pigs. 248 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,633 Oh, then he doesn't get half. That's baloney. That's baloney. 249 00:11:31,633 --> 00:11:34,300 If you raise them, you feed them, you pay for them. 250 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:37,300 If he wraps them, you're not giving him half, in any event. 251 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,367 In any event, you have a job. You have a $90,000 plus job. 252 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:45,500 You made a commitment of $720 253 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,100 to the plaintiff to pay for his pigs and you paid nothing. 254 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:50,500 The pigs died. 255 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:52,633 Just a second. I read that here. 256 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,400 Tell me when the pigs died. 257 00:11:55,567 --> 00:12:00,033 {\an8}Tell me the month and day the pigs died, that you communicated with him, 258 00:12:00,433 --> 00:12:02,567 this pig died, that pig died. This pig died. 259 00:12:02,567 --> 00:12:05,433 I didn't communicate with him about when the pig died or... 260 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:07,467 Did you communicate with him at all? 261 00:12:07,467 --> 00:12:09,333 I'm sorry, when he asked you for the money? 262 00:12:09,333 --> 00:12:11,166 - Yes. - I'm sorry. Okay. 263 00:12:11,333 --> 00:12:14,567 When he said, "where's my money?" That was in what month? 264 00:12:15,066 --> 00:12:17,433 I know when, July 28th is when you picked them up, 265 00:12:17,433 --> 00:12:20,300 and what month did he communicate and say to you, 266 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:22,734 "I want my pigs or I want the money?" 267 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,166 - Tell me - August. 268 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:26,500 August what? 269 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:29,533 One was August 16th, one was August 17th. 270 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:34,166 Okay, so he communicated with you the 16th and the 17th of August. 271 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:36,033 So by this time you've had the pigs 272 00:12:36,033 --> 00:12:38,633 at your place for about two and a half weeks. 273 00:12:39,166 --> 00:12:42,233 From the 28th to the 16th or the 17th of July. 274 00:12:42,233 --> 00:12:44,100 And the first one had already died in that. 275 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:47,400 Just a second. During that time now, when did the first pig die? 276 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,233 A week and three days after I got it home. 277 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,066 Did you tell him? - No. 278 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,300 Then you've gotta pay for all of them, sir. 279 00:12:54,633 --> 00:12:56,133 - What? That's... - You're gonna pay for all of them. 280 00:12:56,133 --> 00:12:57,700 - That's no... - Oh yes. 281 00:13:00,633 --> 00:13:04,700 {\an8}Just show me that you said to him, one got sick, it died. 282 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,333 {\an8}I'm afraid for the others. 283 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:09,467 {\an8}So I just as soon give 'em back to you and cancel this whole deal. 284 00:13:09,567 --> 00:13:10,567 Show me. 285 00:13:10,567 --> 00:13:12,133 {\an8}I offered multiple times... Show me. 286 00:13:12,133 --> 00:13:15,200 {\an8}- To take the pigs back and the waterer. - Just show me. 287 00:13:27,367 --> 00:13:29,266 Logan Moore has accused 288 00:13:29,266 --> 00:13:31,600 {\an8}his family friend Brandon Farmin, 289 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,500 {\an8}of refusing to pay for the pigs he purchased. 290 00:13:35,066 --> 00:13:39,467 Brandon claims Logan sold him sick pigs and only one survived. 291 00:13:39,467 --> 00:13:40,533 Go ahead. 292 00:13:40,533 --> 00:13:43,700 So if you went to the grocery store and you bought a bag of apples, 293 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:48,000 and the apples were rotten in the middle but the outside looked fine 294 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,033 you would still pay for those and just be content with them? 295 00:13:50,033 --> 00:13:52,700 I'm gonna give you the different examples, sir, not apples. 296 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,433 I'm going to give you an example with puppies, 297 00:13:55,433 --> 00:13:57,400 which I have here all the time. 298 00:13:57,533 --> 00:14:01,100 Your pigs were not sold to you with any health guarantee. 299 00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:02,166 Let's start there. 300 00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:06,200 Dogs, cats, animals, pet animals, 301 00:14:06,433 --> 00:14:10,600 are usually sold through a breeder, or somebody that you buy from. 302 00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:14,567 You have a contract that says take the dog or the cat to the vet 303 00:14:14,667 --> 00:14:18,433 within the next three days or the next 24 hours or 48 hours. 304 00:14:18,533 --> 00:14:21,467 Any health deficiency in the cat or dog, 305 00:14:22,233 --> 00:14:26,467 we will either refund your money or give you a new cat or a new dog. 306 00:14:26,633 --> 00:14:29,433 At the discretion of either the buyer or the seller. 307 00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:30,467 That's what happens. 308 00:14:30,467 --> 00:14:34,633 Now, you had the animals at your place for two weeks 309 00:14:35,467 --> 00:14:38,066 and I assume you have other animals. 310 00:14:38,667 --> 00:14:40,433 Just assume you have other animals. 311 00:14:40,433 --> 00:14:41,533 I had other pigs at the time. 312 00:14:41,533 --> 00:14:44,033 I had... Just assume you have other animals. 313 00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:47,700 and I also assume that you have no vet report. 314 00:14:48,467 --> 00:14:50,133 - I do. - I'd like to see it. 315 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:00,567 - This isn't a vet report. - It's the bill. 316 00:15:00,734 --> 00:15:03,066 I don't care about a bill. I want a report. 317 00:15:03,266 --> 00:15:04,667 I don't have a report. I have a bill. 318 00:15:04,667 --> 00:15:07,233 Well, then sir, you're gonna pay him his $720. 319 00:15:08,066 --> 00:15:09,633 You gonna pay him $720. 320 00:15:10,066 --> 00:15:11,266 I don't care what the bill was. 321 00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:15,000 How does he know, how do I know, what the pig picked up, 322 00:15:15,166 --> 00:15:17,200 the one that died at your place... 323 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,166 There wasn't... - In a course of a week and a half? 324 00:15:19,166 --> 00:15:24,734 What you said to me was you took the pigs and said, "I'll pay him when I can." 325 00:15:26,066 --> 00:15:27,300 Now they're yours. 326 00:15:27,433 --> 00:15:30,700 So I had other pigs at the time, full grown pigs, 327 00:15:31,166 --> 00:15:32,300 They were ready to go. 328 00:15:32,567 --> 00:15:34,467 So then I brought these other piglets home, 329 00:15:35,033 --> 00:15:38,367 and then the one started getting sick, so then I had to separate the pigs. 330 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:42,000 {\an8}So then I had to spend all this time and money, giving them shots, 331 00:15:42,133 --> 00:15:43,467 {\an8}trying to keep them healthy. 332 00:15:43,700 --> 00:15:46,233 And then I had to build a whole separate pen 333 00:15:46,333 --> 00:15:49,100 to contain 'em, because I don't wanna get the full-grown pigs 334 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:52,700 getting whatever disease, or whatever they had... 335 00:15:53,166 --> 00:15:56,433 Did you ever call the plaintiff 336 00:15:57,133 --> 00:16:01,000 {\an8}when the first pig got sick and said, listen, this pig is sick 337 00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:04,433 {\an8}and I'm not sure about the other piglets that are here. 338 00:16:04,433 --> 00:16:07,633 And that's in the first two weeks. I'd like to return 'em to you. 339 00:16:07,633 --> 00:16:10,767 You didn't have any babies at the time cause you had sold five, 340 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,767 he had nine in the whole litter or whatever they're called. 341 00:16:14,266 --> 00:16:18,266 Just show me that you said to him, "One got sick, it died, 342 00:16:18,367 --> 00:16:19,700 I'm afraid for the others. 343 00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:23,367 So I'd just as soon give them back to you and cancel this whole deal." 344 00:16:23,467 --> 00:16:27,000 Show me where you did that the first two weeks in August 345 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,533 When I first picked up those... 346 00:16:28,633 --> 00:16:30,633 Just, just show me. 347 00:16:30,633 --> 00:16:32,066 I don't have that. 348 00:16:32,433 --> 00:16:34,767 Sir, then what you're just saying is unreasonable. 349 00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:36,133 It's not unreasonable. 350 00:16:36,133 --> 00:16:38,567 Why do I need to burden him with these sick pigs? 351 00:16:38,700 --> 00:16:41,433 But I'm not gonna pay for a product that I don't get... 352 00:16:42,133 --> 00:16:44,433 Then you've become the lawyer for the plaintiff, 353 00:16:44,433 --> 00:16:46,166 the lawyer for the defendant and the judge. 354 00:16:46,166 --> 00:16:50,200 You said I bought 'em, I didn't pay for 'em, but I shouldn't have to pay 355 00:16:50,433 --> 00:16:53,700 for them because now I had to build a whole separate pen. 356 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,066 I had to separate them and this is all without advising him. 357 00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,567 All without advising him and saying to him, listen, 358 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:04,233 "I didn't wanna buy sick pigs. It looks as if these are sick pigs. 359 00:17:04,433 --> 00:17:06,633 I don't want the extra responsibility. 360 00:17:06,767 --> 00:17:08,767 I don't have the money right now. Take 'em back." 361 00:17:09,033 --> 00:17:10,467 I... - Show me. 362 00:17:10,567 --> 00:17:12,166 I offered. - Show me. 363 00:17:12,166 --> 00:17:13,600 I offered multiple times... Show me. 364 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,266 - To take the pigs back and the waterer. - Show me. 365 00:17:16,266 --> 00:17:19,233 Show me within the first couple of weeks when one died. 366 00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:23,700 So you had to separate all of them. That's the first two weeks in August. 367 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:25,166 That's all I wanna see. 368 00:17:25,166 --> 00:17:26,233 Right here. 369 00:17:26,233 --> 00:17:28,000 - I'd like to see. - August 17th. 370 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,300 Okay. Great. 371 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,333 The one in blue. - Ssh, I'm reading. 372 00:17:37,066 --> 00:17:39,300 This doesn't say anything about sick pigs, sir. 373 00:17:39,433 --> 00:17:42,166 August 16th, 17th, were the two dates he gave me. 374 00:17:42,166 --> 00:17:43,667 This was on August 17th. 375 00:17:44,166 --> 00:17:47,166 He says, "Have the money to me tomorrow 376 00:17:47,266 --> 00:17:49,300 or I'm getting law enforcement involved." 377 00:17:49,467 --> 00:17:52,700 You don't say one of the pigs is sick, one of the pigs died. 378 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:54,467 I'll bring 'em all back. 379 00:17:54,567 --> 00:17:57,300 You say, "I'm working on getting you the money, 380 00:17:58,100 --> 00:17:59,433 but if this is how it is, 381 00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:02,400 then I will bring you back the pigs and all tonight. 382 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:08,100 I have some blank coming up that has taken precedence in my finances. 383 00:18:08,367 --> 00:18:12,166 I'm sorry that this has been less than ideal, but this is where I am now." 384 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,333 That doesn't say anything about pigs being sick, dying. 385 00:18:17,533 --> 00:18:20,433 It says I have other things to do with my money now. 386 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:22,667 That's what it says. Right? 387 00:18:22,767 --> 00:18:25,300 But I clearly offered to bring the pigs back. 388 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,300 Just a second. That's what it says. 389 00:18:27,734 --> 00:18:30,400 He didn't have a buyback agreement from you. 390 00:18:30,700 --> 00:18:34,567 Now you have the pigs, whether they died, or whether they didn't die, 391 00:18:34,567 --> 00:18:36,567 or whether they got sick, you've had them. 392 00:18:36,667 --> 00:18:38,166 Now we're in January, 393 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:40,567 August, September, October, November, December. 394 00:18:40,567 --> 00:18:42,700 We're in January. We're six months later. 395 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:46,400 Judgement for the plaintiff for the amount of $720. 396 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,533 Thank you very much. Thank you. 397 00:18:47,533 --> 00:18:48,767 This court is adjourned. 398 00:18:52,333 --> 00:18:55,700 {\an8}Did not expect, uh, Brandon to uh, mention sick pigs. 399 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,300 {\an8}Pigs wouldn't put on weight. 400 00:18:57,300 --> 00:19:00,033 {\an8}They started not wanting to eat or drink anymore. 401 00:19:00,133 --> 00:19:03,433 {\an8}Then they just got real skinny. No matter what I did or the vets did. 402 00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:04,667 {\an8}Uh, he never told me 403 00:19:04,667 --> 00:19:06,567 {\an8}They just ended up passing away. 404 00:19:06,567 --> 00:19:09,700 {\an8}But if it was sick, I would put 'em in a treated pen that I have 405 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:12,000 {\an8}that's actually on concrete where they cannot pick up 406 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,367 {\an8}any other diseases from the ground. 407 00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:14,700 {\an8}Some kind of infection. 408 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,667 {\an8}And I make sure the uh, animal is even safe for transport. 409 00:19:18,667 --> 00:19:21,700 {\an8}I wasn't gonna do the blood test on 'em to try to figure out. 410 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:26,066 I honestly have done multiple payment plans with multiple farmers. 411 00:19:26,066 --> 00:19:27,300 {\an8}I shouldn't have to pay. 412 00:19:27,433 --> 00:19:30,066 {\an8}And I will do it in the future too. 413 00:19:30,066 --> 00:19:31,166 {\an8}Got frustrated. 414 00:19:31,166 --> 00:19:33,700 {\an8}I'm glad it's over. I don't have to chase my money anymore. 415 00:19:35,567 --> 00:19:38,166 So I don't know a lot about pigs or farming or... 416 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,233 - No. - Or housing pigs, 417 00:19:40,467 --> 00:19:43,000 but I was really surprised at the profit margin 418 00:19:43,166 --> 00:19:45,000 that the defendant was explaining. 419 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:48,166 If you buy the pigs at 40 pounds, 420 00:19:48,166 --> 00:19:51,066 not also great at math or word problem math question. 421 00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:55,734 So, but if you buy a pig at 40 pounds for $160, 422 00:19:56,333 --> 00:19:59,700 you have to feed it all the way up to 280 pounds, 423 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,433 in order to sell it to anyone. 424 00:20:02,734 --> 00:20:06,133 You have to, I don't even wanna think about how much food that requires 425 00:20:06,133 --> 00:20:07,166 to feed the pigs. 426 00:20:07,433 --> 00:20:10,734 But then your profit, even if he wasn't splitting it with whoever helps him 427 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,266 cut and butcher the meat, is only $800 as a high figure, 428 00:20:15,467 --> 00:20:19,000 that seems like a very low profit margin to have pigs in your house 429 00:20:19,266 --> 00:20:22,700 and to have them in your backyard and build a pen with five kids. 430 00:20:23,066 --> 00:20:26,567 That just seems like a lot for a profit margin that I expected to be much higher. 431 00:20:26,567 --> 00:20:30,433 That's really labor intensive work. It just blew my mind. 432 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,300 - Yeah, different part of the world. - Different part of the world. 433 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:37,000 So if you don't like that part of the world, then you go to law school. 434 00:20:37,133 --> 00:20:39,667 - I guess. - Or you become a podiatrist... 435 00:20:39,667 --> 00:20:43,300 - Or you visit, you visit your farm - Or you visit. You visit your farm 436 00:20:45,033 --> 00:20:48,400 Have you been cheated? Go to JudyJustice.tv.