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This used to be your husband.
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You purchased a truck
in your name for him.
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I said I am not doing this again,
like I did on the last truck.
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And you said, "I couldn't pay it."
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It's only a few months late.
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How many months?
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I can't remember exactly.
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Well, that's too long.
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This is Judy Justice.
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Teri Smith is suing
her ex-husband, Tony Smith,
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for three ATVs and a lawnmower.
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Court, come to order, all rise.
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Have a seat please.
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Hello, Judge, case number 2148,
Smith versus Smith.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Ms. Smith, this used to be your husband,
you haven't been married in a long time,
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but after your divorce,
you sort of remained friendly,
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and you've had some business
transactions together.
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What kind of business?
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I would refer
Real Estate business to him,
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and I'll refer flipping homes
and the construction work.
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Did you take part in matters as well?
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I did.
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- And what year were you divorced?
- 2015
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So just briefly is what I gather
from the complaint,
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and the answer, and the counterclaim,
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at some point, according to you,
you purchased three ATVs.
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Those three ATVs
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were originally supposed to be used
in business?
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{\an8}We purchased more than three.
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How many did you purchase?
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{\an8}There was just three that were left.
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It was 14 of them that we had.
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And when you purchased those,
you purchased those together
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as part of a business?
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No, those were mine.
I purchased for the business.
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14?
- The business was mine. Yes.
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14?
Yes.
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You purchased them, you paid for them?
Yes I did.
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- Okay, and you can prove that to me.
- I can.
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Okay.
Do you agree with the fact,
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{\an8}your former wife purchased the 14 ATVs?
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{\an8}Yes, I agree but it was underneath
an LLC that was formed.
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I don't care whether it was under an LLC,
or a little umbrella or a big shoe.
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- She bought the ATVs?
- Yes.
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So one of the things that's in question,
is the ATVs now
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are in your custody?
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The remaining ones are in my home now.
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Three?
- Yes, ma'am.
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- And you want them back?
- I do.
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She bought them,
why doesn't she get them back?
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Because, Your Honor,
there is an outstanding invoice
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for work that I have done for her.
What?
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{\an8}It's construction work and other
odds and ends, I was helping her...
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That’s not part of your counterclaim,
, sir.
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That’s not what you say at all.
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Okay, and also there is a counterclaim.
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You have a counterclaim,
that has to do with your truck.
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So there really is no reason that
you are holding those ATVs.
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Are they new?
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No, they are demonstrator models,
there’s one new and two demonstrators.
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Okay. So within five days,
you make arrangements to get those.
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Okay, I assume that
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- you have children together?
- No.
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So I assume
that you are two civilized people,
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I don’t know
whether you need a police officer
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to accompany you to get those.
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But within five days,
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make arrangements to pick them up
from his house, they are yours.
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- They're yours.
- I will, thank you.
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Are we then finished with your claim?
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No, there is a lawnmower,
an electric zero turn lawnmower,
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Okay.
- that is also a part of that claim.
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Okay, I’ve sort of remember that.
Is that an old lawnmower?
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No, it was purchased in May of 2021.
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And who was it purchased for?
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{\an8}He asked me since he could not get it
on credit, if I could buy it for him
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{\an8}and the next Real Estate transaction
that I referred to him,
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{\an8}he said when he got paid
he would pay me the $4800 back.
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Okay.
And so when I asked for it,
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he said that he had put it
in a separate savings account
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to save it for me, and I said
"I don’t need you to save me my money."
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Got it.
So you have the lawnmower?
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Yes, ma'am.
You pick that up with the ATVs.
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Thank you.
Got it?
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Thank you. Perfect.
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Now we have to come to your counterclaim.
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Your counterclaim is sort of interesting,
and it could be, I think,
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{\an8}probably equally swiftly disposed of.
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{\an8}After your divorce, you needed a truck
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{\an8}You didn’t have any money or credit,
according to what I’ve read.
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And you purchased a truck
in your name for him,
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and the agreement was that
you would make the payments on the truck
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because you couldn’t get credit.
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- Is that right?
- Yes, ma'am.
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The truck was purchased
in what month and year?
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August of 2020.
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How much did the truck cost?
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$58,000. Somewhere in there.
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And how much of the down payment
did you put down?
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500 bucks.
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Is that right?
- Yes.
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That’s good,
you must have had good credit.
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I did. Good.
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And what were the monthly payments, sir?
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900 and I can’t remember exactly.
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It was under a thousand.
It was $940 something, I think.
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And you paid for the truck,
in the month of August of 2020
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and all through 2021.
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Until when?
When was the last payment on the truck
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that you made that you can prove
to me that you made?
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I have all the payments--
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Just tell me when was the last payment
you made on the truck.
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It was August of this year.
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August of 2022?
- Yes, ma’am.
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And that is what
your bank records will indicate,
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that you made payment of $900
and some-odd dollars in August of 2022.
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And in what month
did your former wife repossess the truck
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which was in her name?
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It was September 20th.
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Now you’re going to tell me
why you repossessed the truck.
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Let's talk about the violations,
driving without tags, only two months?
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When we forget that we are traveling,
and we don't get registrations
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for our cars, we don't drive those cars.
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Because if you drive it with expired tags,
that's against the law.
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Teri Smith claims her ex-husband,
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{\an8}Tony Smith, owes her three ATVs
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and a lawnmower.
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Tony is countersuing
for the value of a truck.
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Okay, you made a payment
of 900 and some-odd dollars.
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Yes, ma'am.
August of 2022.
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{\an8}And in what month did your former wife
repossess the truck which was in her name?
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{\an8}It was September 20th. Okay.
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Now you’re going to tell me
why you repossessed the truck.
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{\an8}Yes, that truck’s first payment was due
on October 30th of 2020
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{\an8}- I made the payment on November 28.
- No, no, no.
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{\an8}- I’m not interested in history.
- Okay.
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I’m interested in, he says that
he was making payments on the truck,
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you say he stopped
making payments on the truck.
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Which is why you repossessed it,
you didn’t want your credit to be at risk.
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It was two of the first payments
that I made and I said,
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I’m not doing this again
like I did on the last truck
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where I make every payment
but he-- the insurance,
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I asked for the insurance to be paid
since April of 2020,
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and I requested this
on June the 28th of 2022.
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And I said, "Here's the insurance premiums
I've paid on the GMC truck
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since we've had it."
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And it was $1,596.
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His reply was, "I'm happy
to pay the insurance on my truck
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But don't just dump two and a half
years on me at a time,
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I will need to break this up
into three increments."
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This was June.
"I don't have any money."
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The insurance and taxes,
the taxes this year--
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It was the first time
he's ever paid taxes on the vehicle.
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{\an8}And it was one year late.
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{\an8}He drove on an expired tag
for a total year. The reason--
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Just a second. Is that correct?
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I'm sorry?
Did you drive on an expired tag?
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No, it was only a few months late.
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- So you drive--
- It wasn't an entire year.
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- How many months?
- Two months.
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- Well, that's too long.
- I agree.
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And was your agreement that you would
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maintain the insurance
for the truck as well?
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That was something that we discussed.
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And because of the...
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The real reason she actually agreed
to purchase the truck.
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We had a previous truck
that was also, I was driving.
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And because of the LLC
that the truck was under,
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it was a very high
commercial insurance rate.
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So she felt that it would benefit her
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to get another truck and come out
from the-- under the commercial rate
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that she was paying for insurance.
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And she was going to put it
in a group insurance policy.
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Where is the truck?
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- You've had possession of the truck.
- That's correct.
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So you get all the benefit of the truck,
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and she gets all the detriment.
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I'm just referring to the--
No, no I'm just...
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What I'm not getting from you, sir,
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is any sense of the whole idea was
"This was going to be my truck.
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As soon as I finish
making all the payments on the truck,
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the truck is going to be mine."
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- Right?
- That's correct.
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And if you didn't make payments
on the truck, absolutely.
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She has a right to repossess it,
if that was your agreement.
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And you acknowledge
that that's your agreement.
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- Right?
- That is the agreement but I have made
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every payment and I have paid
all of the tax.
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Well, the word paid
all the tax eventually--
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{\an8}didn't pay them when due.
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{\an8}That happened once.
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Didn't pay them when due.
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Paid them eventually.
What about the insurance?
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The insurance,
I agreed to catch up and pay her back for,
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when she told me what it was.
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Okay.
- I never received any information
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about the insurance amount
until she sent it all in.
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Okay, she sent it to you in one email.
That was in June.
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And you said "I couldn't pay it,"
and she repossessed the car in September.
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Between June and September,
did you make any insurance payment?
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No I did not.
Why?
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It was a lot of things
going on at that time, that--
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There was money owed to me
as well from her.
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So it was a lot of discussion
going back and forth about that.
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Well, but one thing is clean,
you know about the insurance.
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And if there's money that she owes you
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from construction or real estate,
or whatever it is,
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you have to put that in compartments.
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Where is the truck now?
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I took the truck back and it is sold.
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Did you ever tell him?
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He wouldn't talk to me.
He hasn't talked to me since May.
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So you had the truck
for approximately two years?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And how much in total
did you pay for the truck?
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The exact amount added up was $18,736.
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So you paid approximately $9,000 a year.
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- Right?
- Correct.
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Your Honor, we had an agreement of
$1,200 a month on the truck
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to cover the insurance and taxes
upfront before it was purchased.
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That's not true.
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Well, if you paid approximately $9,000,
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Mr. Smith, and you used it for business, correct?
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That's what you used the truck for.
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So you paid approximately $750 a month.
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If you paid $9,000 each year,
for the two years, $1870.
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You say the payments were $900 a month.
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That means that there was a shortfall.
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Can I bring s--
It was more than two years.
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It was August of 2020 until...
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September.
- August of this year.
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That's two years.
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There's also a downpayment.
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Of $500 on the--
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Okay.
So that's $750, sir.
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I always have a problem
with people who are no longer married
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and no longer happy with each other,
when one party has the obligation
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and has all the liability on a vehicle,
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including their credit,
and their insurance,
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when the other person
is being either irresponsible
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or blinking at certain violations.
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Let's talk about the violations.
Driving without tags.
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Only two months?
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When we forget or we're traveling
and we don't get registrations
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for our cars, we don't drive those cars.
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'Cause if you're driving
with expired tags,
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that's against the law.
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I would like to point out if I may
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that the bill for that
obviously went to her address.
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It was not given to me.
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{\an8}That's not my... I understand that
I need to be aware of it.
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{\an8}But I never received that bill.
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I gave it to him the very month it came.
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Just a second.
- That's not true.
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Just a second.
You're a big boy.
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You know when your car
has to be registered,
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you have a little yellow tag
on the back like everybody else.
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And insurance, you know,
you're supposed to pay insurance.
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That was your agreement,
you were supposed to pay insurance.
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and you didn't pay insurance.
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She's going to show me
how much was left on the loan,
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and how much you sold the truck for.
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If she sold the truck for more
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than was left on the loan,
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the difference between--
Look at me.
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The difference between that
belongs to you.
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Teri Smith is accusing
ex-husband, Tony Smith,
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{\an8}of wrongfully keeping three ATVs,
and a lawnmower.
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Tony claims Teri owes him
for the cost of a truck.
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- Okay, well, are you working now, sir?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Great. She sold the truck.
How much did you sell it for?
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48,000
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And how much was left
on the loan?
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48, it was even.
Well, show me.
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{\an8}It was even.
I'd like to see that.
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{\an8}So $48,000 was...
He paid $18,000?
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Hang on one second, I got it...
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Can I submit this to you, Your Honor?
What is that?
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This is my bank statement,
showing the payment.
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No, you told me, and I accepted it.
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She doesn't dispute it, and I accept it.
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I do have a copy of the title here somewhere.
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What I'm looking for, Mr. Smith,
just so that you know,
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what I'm having her look for for me.
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She's going to show me
how much was left on the loan
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and how much she sold the truck for.
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If she sold the truck for more
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than was left on the loan,
the difference between-- Look at me.
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The difference between that
belongs to you.
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- Oh, I see.
- Because you paid it, right?
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I see. Yes, ma'am.
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- Got it? That fair?
- Yeah.
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Did she tell you that she sold the truck?
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No ma'am.
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He went and bought a truck two days later,
so he was able to buy a truck.
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Okay.
Would you find those papers for me?
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While you're looking
for those papers for me,
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- Mr. Smith, did you buy another truck?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Good. Did you put
a down payment on it?
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Yes, ma'am.
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And you own it now.
- Yes, ma'am.
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And you're driving it now.
- That's correct.
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What would you do with a second truck?
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Well, I was forced to buy one
because it... I--
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I understand
you were forced to buy one, sir.
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But if you had the truck
and you weren't going to use two trucks,
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you would sell this truck
for whatever amount you sold it for.
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And if there was any overage,
you get...
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I offered to purchase the truck from her.
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In fact, she understood
that I was planning
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to purchase the truck from her.
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Don't tell me what she understood.
Right now, you don't need a truck,
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and I'm going to find out whether or not
she has to give you any money
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as a result of what you sold
the truck for.
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This bill of sale does not have
the amount on it, I didn't realize that.
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I'll have to get that from...
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This is the time to get it.
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I'm sorry I did not realize
it didn't have it on there.
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Okay. Oh, you sold it to a company.
I did.
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Oh, okay. Not to a private party. No.
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Is that the same company
that you purchased it from?
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{\an8}No, I purchased it
from a different dealership.
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Okay. Do you have the exact amount
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that the loan, the extant loan was?
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The original loan was six...
No, no.
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- I'm sorry. The exit loan?
- Yeah, the exit.
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It was between 48 and 49,000.
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Give or take. Hang on, hang on.
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And the truck was purchased for 56.
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So that's amounts--
his payment plus interest.
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I have it. That's the difference
of what they gave me.
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I originally put the down payment
on that truck as well, he did not.
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That doesn't matter.
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Yeah, that was a difference
they gave me in the sale.
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Okay, so this is the difference?
Yes.
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Between what was on the loan.
- Exactly.
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And this. Okay, so the excess, sir,
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was $2,225.
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She put in the deposit for the truck
when it was originally purchased for $500?
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She did not.
Who did?
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I did, and I have that in this record,
right here.
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Show me.
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We added tires,
we added all kinds of extra stuff to it.
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and everything. I paid for that as well.
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- I don't care.
- Oh.
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This is actually...
Just show me
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It's on my phone.
Can I show it? Can I--?
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From 2020?
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Yes, what had happened,
that amount actually came off
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- of this statement copy.
- Let me see.
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Can I submit this, too, where I made
the two payments on the truck?
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When he first started, I made
the very second payment
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and the fourth payment
on that truck because he wouldn't make it.
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I also notified him on June the 20th
that he had 30 days
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to get the truck in his name,
and I never heard anything
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You can't notify him within 30 days
to get it in his name.
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That's not the agreement.
Let me see.
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Yeah.
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It's in yellow.
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Yep, purchased authorized August 22nd.
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And this is two thousand and...?
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Twenty.
- Twenty.
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For $500.
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Okay, so the difference of $500
that came out of your account,
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brings the total excess
that she received $1,725.
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She's coming to pick up her lawnmower
within five days and her three ATVs.
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At the same time
she's going to give you $1,725,
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which is the difference
between what was owed on the truck
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and the profit that was made
that she didn't pay for.
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We've finished here.
Thank you very much.
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Thank you.
This court is adjourned.
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I think it was fair.
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Well, it was a little less than I thought
I was going to get back from it,
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but there's a lot more to the story
that obviously I couldn't get in.
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00:18:35,133 --> 00:18:37,300
Well, I mean, I had the truth. So...
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She understands why that is
because there's an outstanding invoice
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from me for work that I've done
that she's refusing to pay for.
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I have supported him since 2003.
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Construction work, I did a lot of planning
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and helping her with
her current home that she's living in.
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It is just one thing after another
and I can never owe him one dime.
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I mean, everything was fine between us.
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His trauma bonded me and manipulated me
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and gaslit me for all these years
and kept me around
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just in case other relationships
didn't work out.
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Until she found out
I was seeing someone else.
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No, no, no, I've been asking
for everything of mine
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that he kept for and held hostage
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for a long time before that,
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but he's probably had
many more before that,
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I just didn't know about 'em.
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But I'm happy.
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I was thinking,
he was making me think
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that we were reconciling,
while he was using me.
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00:19:27,433 --> 00:19:29,166
I don't see us talking anymore.
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The bank is finally closed,
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and the bad bargain is--
just been a nightmare.
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It's been hundreds of bad bargains.
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No more business ventures.
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You see, it's always a mistake.
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- Unless you're married,
- Mm-hmm.
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- to cosign a loan for anybody,
- Mm-hmm.
404
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a boyfriend or somebody.
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- An ex-husband.
- An ex...
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- And especially an ex-husband.
- Yeah.
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Because I think what you said was true.
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There's always one person
that gets no benefit
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and get slighted and has their name
on the line for their credit
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for future purchases
that they want to make.
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And the guy who gets to drive the truck.
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Of course, he says that the reason
she got all hot and bothered
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is because he has a girlfriend now.
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I would have felt a little
more sympathy towards him
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had he not gone out two weeks later
and bought a new truck.
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Yeah, well.
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Want justice?
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