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{\an8}You owned your own plane.
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And he hit a cone
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and caused substantial damage
to the propeller and the engine.
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Those cones are made of plastic.
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I don't care. You don't have to be
a genius to figure out
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that the plane flew perfectly fine
before you hit the cone.
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[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.
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[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[narrator] Albert Le is suing
pilot instructor Ed Myer
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for damage resulting from
Ed moving his plane.
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[Kevin]
Court, come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Case 2145, Le vs. Myer.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Mr. Le, you are an amateur pilot?
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Yes, I was a-- Yes.
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And you owned your own plane.
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I bought it to train in, yes.
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When did you purchase the plane?
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In, uh... I believe...
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April of 2021.
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[Judy]
Did you buy it new or used?
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[Albert]
I bought it used.
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{\an8}[Judy]
What kind of plane is it?
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{\an8}It's a Cirrus SR22.
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{\an8}2010, Type-Golf.
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- What did you pay for it?
- I paid 420,000 for it, I believe.
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- Is there a mortgage on the...
- [Albert] Yes, there is.
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How much?
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It's 2204 per month.
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You paid $425,000 for the plane?
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Yeah, I put a down payment on it.
The outstanding balance is 347,000.
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- The payment per month is 2000--
- [Judy] Okay.
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I don't need the payment per month,
I just wanted to know what you paid for it
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- and how much you put into the plane.
- Yes.
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{\an8}[Judy] The defendant is a pilot,
a licensed pilot,
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{\an8}and he was giving you
some training on the plane.
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A certified flight instructor, yes.
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It is your claim that at some point,
you'll tell me when,
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that the defendant
was operating the plane by himself,
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you weren't there, and he was
moving it from one part of the FBO
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to another part, and he hit a cone
and caused substantial damage
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to the propeller and the engine.
And while you had--
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Your insurance did cover some of it.
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According to you,
it did not cover all of the expenses.
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And you want
Mr. Myer to be responsible for that.
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So, it's a simple question.
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Mr. Myer,
do you remember the date
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that you were operating the plane
when Mr. Le was not there?
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- Yes.
- What date?
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It was in April some time.
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- [Judy] April of 2022?
- Correct.
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Do you remember the date, Mr. Le?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] What date?
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It's April 22nd.
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[Judy]
That sound right?
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Yes.
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[Judy]
Okay. And from what I read in the papers,
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Mr. Myer had in fact taken you out,
but then the weather got bad.
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You decided that
you would make your way home
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and that he would get the plane home
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- when the weather was better.
- Correct.
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And that was on or about April 22nd.
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I flew home on a commercial flight
the day before, on April 21st.
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- And you stayed with the plane?
- Yes.
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Now, would you agree, Mr. Myer,
that if, in fact, you hit an object
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with the plane,
it would be your responsibility?
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Yes.
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Because it would mean that there was
some sort of negligence involved.
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Right.
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[Judy] And then there would be
the issue of damages.
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Mr. Le, you were not present
when this incident happened.
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- I was not--
- [Judy] Not present.
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{\an8}- I was not present. Uh, I was able--
- [Judy] No. You were not present.
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- I was not present.
- [Judy] That's the answer.
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Was this witness present?
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[Albert] He was not present,
but he was the one responsible for
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procuring the evidence on what happened
and how the propeller was damaged.
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- Who does he work for?
- [Albert] He has his own flight school,
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and he also manages my airplane in terms
of the maintenance and the upkeep.
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Okay. Could you step up, please?
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- Tell me your last name.
- Last name is Williams.
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Mr. Williams, were you charged with
gathering the evidence to determine
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{\an8}what happened to the plane
on the 22nd of April?
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{\an8}Yes, I was.
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{\an8}And you're paid
a monthly fee by the plaintiff
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- to manage his plane.
- That's correct.
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[Judy] Did you retain the defendant
as an instructor, or did Mr. Le?
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That was both decided by Mr. Le
and Mr. Myers to fly for him.
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But you did not--
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He was independent contractor
at that time.
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You did not have anything to do with sel--
As the manager of the plane,
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you didn't have anything
to do with selecting Mr. Myer--
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I did select Mr. Myer to fly with Albert.
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[Judy]
You did?
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- Yes.
- Okay.
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Because-- Were you
the one who introduced him
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- to Mr. Myer?
- That's correct.
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When, Mr. Le,
did you start to work with Mr. Myer?
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It was probably a prior flight
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where we flew to San Francisco
for a business meeting I had.
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- After that, I believe it was--
- [Judy] In what month?
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Roughly about the same month.
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- [Judy] In April?
- Yeah, in April, maybe.
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- So, you didn't know him for a long time?
- No, not very long.
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[Judy] I'm going to get back to you
in a minute, Mr. Williams.
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Prior to the defendant, had anybody else
been an instructor for you?
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Yes. Uh, Klinton
was my primary instructor.
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But I flew
with some other instructors as well.
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But it wasn't until the month that this
incident occurred that you had been
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- connected with the defendant?
- Correct.
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[Judy] Okay. Now, sir, how were you
advised that the plane that you manage
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was in an accident?
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I received a phone call from Ed
saying that there was a problem--
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- [Judy] From whom?
- From Mr. Myers.
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{\an8}That there was a problem with the aircraft
after he taxied and did the run-up
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{\an8}and returned the aircraft
back to Signature in Las Vegas.
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We notified and contacted a Cirrus--
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Did you ask-- What you would usually
ask is, "What happened?"
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Yeah, what happened--
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[Judy] Just a second.
And what did he say to you?
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He said that he was having
instrument problems with the aircraft
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and he wasn't able to take off,
so he returned the aircraft.
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At that point in time, I contacted
a Cirrus service center.
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I had two technicians go out and look
at the aircraft, see what was wrong.
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At the time,
the technicians found that the--
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Don't tell me what they found.
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[Klint] Okay.
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You can't tell me what they found.
It's hearsay.
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They sent me pictures
of the damage to the propeller.
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May I see the photographs?
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Okay. So that's a fresh damage.
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- Correct.
- [Judy] Can I scroll this?
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- Yes, you may.
- [Judy] Or it's just one?
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Okay, so you have a picture of that,
you have a picture
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of the cone that has a slice in it.
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[Klint]
Correct. That's the object he hit.
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We also have a video
showing the plane taxi
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and hitting the cone at the time--
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[Judy]
I'd like to see that as well.
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- Okay.
- Okay, let's see what we got.
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[Klint]
As you can see where the--
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[Judy]
Just one second.
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Mr. Myer, is that
a fair and accurate representation
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of where the plane was
before you moved it?
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{\an8}It should be the last,
on the far left side of that Learjet.
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[Judy] Okay.
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Oh. Mr. Myer, do you see
that you went over a cone?
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It's interesting,
I didn't even notice there was a cone.
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You may not notice it, but you see it now?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] Okay.
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[theme music playing]
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Your hitting of the cone
caused damage to that plane.
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I mean, you're not talking about
flying a 747.
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You're talking about
a little single-prop plane?
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- Right.
- Yeah. They're like those planes
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you put together--
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we used to put together
with rubber bands.
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I wouldn't put my behind in one of those
planes for all the money in the world.
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{\an8}[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[narrator] Albert Le claims
pilot instructor Ed Myer is responsible
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for damage after Ed moved Albert's plane.
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[Judy] Okay.
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In all of my years of flying...
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which is pretty significant,
I was an airline pilot too...
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I've never, ever experienced that
in my life.
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- [Judy] Okay, but you see it now?
- Yes.
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It's not an "on purpose." It's...
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You know,
that's why they call them accidents.
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- We don't mean for them to happen.
- [Ed] Right.
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We don't mean for them to happen.
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But you do see that
the plane did hit a cone.
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{\an8}Right.
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{\an8}[Judy] Okay.
And I have photographs of the cone
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{\an8}that has a slice in it, the same kind
of slice from one of the propellers.
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Now... so, that's conceded, that Mr. Myer
did, in fact, hit the cone,
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which, in all probability,
caused damage to the plane,
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caused damage to the propeller.
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Now, tell me about your insurance.
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The insurance covered the propeller.
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{\an8}They covered
the teardown of the engine.
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{\an8}When something strikes the propeller,
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{\an8}they have to tear apart the engine,
make sure the components--
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- [Judy] Do you have those...
- I do.
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...that paperwork for me?
I'd like to see it.
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Okay, so, here is
the insurance-covered portion.
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And here is my covered portion
that I had to come out of pocket
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- to pick up the plane.
- Okay.
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[Albert]
And I can explain both invoices.
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And if you flip to the last page,
that'll have the total.
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Insurance covered
about 60-something thousand
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for the propeller and the engine teardown.
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[Judy] Okay.
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So the damage to propeller, Mr. Williams,
causes you to have to
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take apart the engine, fix the engine,
if there was damage to the engine,
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- am I correct?
- That's correct. The FAA requires...
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Any time you strike an object with a
propeller, the engine has to be inspected
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- and the component parts, so the--
- Component parts of the engine?
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Of the damage,
potential damage of the engine.
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Internal damage that could be caused
by striking an object.
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Okay. The insurance
covered how much, sir? Mr. Le?
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It's, uh...
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Sorry, it's on the invoice, 60--
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I think it was 63,000, 64,000.
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- It's on the last page.
- The last page...
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- shows $63,000.
- [Albert] Shows a deposit of 40--
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Yes, that's it.
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The deposit was 40,
balance due was 23.
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Did the insurance company
pay the entire 63--
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They paid the entire $63,000.
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[Judy] $63,000.
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This was what was submitted to them.
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Yes.
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[Judy] Okay, now I'd like you
to take a look at this, Mr. Myer.
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No, I'm going to actually ask Mr. Williams
to take a look at this document.
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These are the items, Mr. Williams,
that Mr. Le says were uncovered.
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I would like you to go through
all those items
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and tell me which of those items
relate to the engine and which do not.
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Okay, is this the total?
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Carefully, 'cause I'm going to potentially
ask you about each individual thing,
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because there looks to me like some things
that bear no relation to an engine.
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Okay, so most of the items you see
that are "airworthiness" on the airframe
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are the items that need to be inspected
or replaced from the teardown.
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So, your item one, item two,
three, four...
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item five, six, seven... eight,
these are all items that the...
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repair shop goes through
the engine and assesses whether--
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Well, tell me how the brakes
would be impacted...
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- I don't think the--
- ...would be impacted by hitting the...
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- [Klint] Which invoice is this?
- And I don't know--
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but how brakes would be impacted
by hitting a nose cone.
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Brake lining.
I don't know what that is.
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Okay.
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Yeah, some of these items, Your Honor,
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such as one of these items,
the brake linings, as you pointed out,
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is probably not part of the--
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Well, that's what I want
you to go through, sir.
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- [Klint] Okay.
- Do you understand?
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I want you to take a marker,
a pen, and circle, because...
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- I don't know a whole lot about airplanes.
- [Klint] Okay.
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[Judy]
But I know a little bit about airplanes.
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I know what's routine maintenance and what
has to be taken care of, because...
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a plane either falls on its nose
or falls on its tail,
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both of which I've experienced.
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Well, this is a small invoice.
This is not your--
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- This is--
- [Judy] Mr. Williams?
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{\an8}Don't ask him. I didn't ask you
to have a conference with him.
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{\an8}Okay. No, I--
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{\an8}I asked you to look at that.
You're the management company.
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I want you to strike those items
that are not related to this accident,
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and go through them
very carefully, because--
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- Can I make a comment? Okay.
- [Judy] No. Nope.
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- To you, directly.
- Nope.
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Okay. [laughs]
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Can I...
Can I ask you something?
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{\an8}- [Judy] Can you ask me something?
- Yeah.
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{\an8}Well, he should tell you
those cones are made of plastic.
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I don't care.
They're heavy cones.
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You hit the cone.
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And the plane flew perfectly fine
before you hit the cone.
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It didn't run after you hit the cone.
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You don't have to be a genius
to figure out the cone caused--
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Your hitting of the cone
caused damage to that plane.
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I mean, you're not talking about
flying a 747.
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You're talking about a little single--
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- This is a single-prop plane?
- Right.
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Yeah. They're like those planes
you put together--
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we used to put together
with rubber bands.
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I wouldn't put my behind in one of those
planes for all the money in the world.
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The only items I can see,
Your Honor, are two items...
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that may not be related to the accident,
items seven and eight.
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- Okay. May I have that back, please, sir?
- [Klint] Sure.
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And you are familiar with planes,
sir, is that correct?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] Okay.
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So what you're saying is,
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{\an8}- item seven and eight.
- [Klint] The circled items.
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{\an8}[Klint] Correct.
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{\an8}[Judy]
So we have...
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There's a couple of--
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[Judy] We have right
and left main gear... [mutters]
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143...
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plus 270...
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plus... 66.
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What about item nine?
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{\an8}"Pitch trim jam nut loose."
What is that?
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Probably what they do
during the inspection and the teardown,
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they go through the aircraft itself,
make sure it's airworthy.
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So they probably caught
another item or two.
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You can probably put that on an item
that wasn't part of the accident.
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The big-ticket items,
adding up all of these items, Mr. Myer,
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that probably have no relation
to the accident which you caused...
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- Correct.
- [Judy] ...still bring the total amount
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to more than
this court's jurisdictional limit.
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Can you tell me, sir,
why your insurance...
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Mr. Williams, let's go back to you.
You manage this plane.
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{\an8}Can you tell me why Mr. Le's insurance
didn't cover all the damage to the plane?
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A lot of the prospective renters
or instructors that everybody uses,
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or we used in this case,
have their own--
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carry their own insurance
for this type of incident.
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Their insurance covers, basically,
downtime loss of operation.
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Or, in this case, uh...
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- [Judy] You mean Mr. Myer...
- Yes.
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...would have his own.
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Do you have your own insurance?
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- No.
- [Judy] No.
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Don't you do a check to find out
if they have their own insurance
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before you recommend someone?
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He had insurance, but it was lapsed.
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If you have insurance that's lapsed,
then you have no insurance.
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- Yeah. That's correct.
- So you're lucky that he's not suing you.
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{\an8}[narrator] Albert Le
is accusing pilot instructor Ed Myer
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of hitting a cone and damaging his plane.
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Ed says Albert was already paid
by his insurance company.
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Mr. Williams,
you were the one who recommended
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- Mr. Myers.
- That's correct, I did.
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[Judy] Don't you do a check to find out
if they have their own insurance
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before you recommend someone?
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He had insurance, but it was lapsed.
It lapsed.
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[Judy] Well, that means he didn't
have insurance. I get that all the time.
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If you have insurance that's lapsed,
then you have no insurance.
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{\an8}Yeah. As a flight school, our instructors
are required to carry the insurance.
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{\an8}- [Judy] Okay, but that didn't happen here.
- That's correct.
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So you're lucky that he's not suing you,
'cause you manage the plane for him.
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And you recommended him, Mr. Williams.
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You know, when you have a management
company that manages your plane,
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they're supposed to make certain
that if you have a certain kind of plane,
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that you have pilots certified
to fly those kinds of planes.
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And if they give me a list of pilots
and those pilots aren't certified
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to fly the kind of plane
that I might have,
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then it's the fault
of the management company.
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In this case here, the plaintiff
and the defendant were working together
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as far as their payment and their fees
they were gonna charge.
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Well, that's okay. That's okay.
They may have been working head-to-head.
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I mean, it was Mr. Myer's fault,
but I'm just telling you
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that Mr. Le relies on your advice.
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What business are you in, Mr. Le?
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I do commercial real estate.
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{\an8}I sell shopping centers
and office buildings.
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{\an8}Okay. That's not his business,
that's why he hires you.
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And he hires you, he asks you
for recommendations
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as to where to get the plane repaired,
for an instructor.
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Now, the fact that
he may pay him independently,
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he's relied on you for information.
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So, I suggest, Mr. Williams,
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that you tighten up
your ship a little bit.
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Mr. Myer, you're responsible
to the plaintiff for the damage
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that you caused his plane.
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Why did you let your insurance lapse?
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{\an8}It had lapsed-- I just didn't even realize
the fact that it had lapsed.
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{\an8}I just realized the fact
that when this came about,
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that's what happened.
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[Judy] Well, when was the last time
you paid premiums?
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Probably about a year before that.
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Anything else you want to tell me,
Mr. Myer?
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- Uh...
- [Judy] You owe him $10,000.
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You caused the damage,
you have to fix it.
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Judgement for the plaintiff.
We're finished. Thank you.
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[Kevin]
This court is adjourned.
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{\an8}I understand her point. The fact that--
What she saw.
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{\an8}I thought she's very fair.
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{\an8}These cones are made out of plastic.
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{\an8}It's hard to believe.
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{\an8}It sounds like a gunshot
when you hit the cone.
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{\an8}And it triggered several warnings.
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{\an8}And for him to say he had no idea,
it's a little bit hard to believe.
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{\an8}They don't have much weight to them.
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{\an8}With the loud bang after you hit it,
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{\an8}it's quite obvious
that you should've stopped
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{\an8}and shut down
and inspect the damage.
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{\an8}There normally is never a cone
at the 12 o'clock position.
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{\an8}They're at the left side
and the right side.
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{\an8}They place cones
all the way around the aircraft.
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{\an8}And it's part of your responsibility
as the pilot in command
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{\an8}to do a walkaround pre-flight,
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{\an8}make sure there's
no object in front of your aircraft.
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{\an8}When I taxied out, halfway down,
that's when I recognized
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{\an8}there was an EICAS message that came on.
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{\an8}I finally got it back,
and no more student pilots,
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{\an8}so won't let any CFIs fly for a while.
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You know what I thought about
in this case, Sarah?
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That laypeople have to look at something. Laypeople.
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And while I'm in charge
and have certain expertise,
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I have no expertise in reading slips
that show what's been done on a car...
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- Yeah.
- ...or an airplane,
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or a train, or a boat.
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- But we have common sense.
- But we have common sense.
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And your brakes are not part of an engine.
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- Yeah.
- You know, you have an engine job,
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and then you have a brake job,
and you have a...
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- I saw where you were going.
- ...different, different kind of...
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And you know, if you have an accident
that impacts on the right driver's door,
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if you put in a new wheel casing
in the left rear door,
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well, that has nothing
to do with an accident.
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Probably just an oversight.
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He did state
that those two items were not part of--
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- He did. He did.
- He did at the end,
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but it feels a little uneasy when
they try and slip those things in there
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that just common sense
doesn't ring true
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that it comes from the same incident.
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- Yeah, you know, front, back, you know.
- Yeah.
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The head of a horse, the tail of a horse,
it doesn't fit in.
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And there's really no difference
between not having insurance
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when you're driving a car
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and not having insurance
as a flight instructor.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah. That's a pretty serious--
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I would think there'd be a more rigorous
check on that before you get behind
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- an aircr-- the wheel of an aircraft.
- Well, absolutely.
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- You would think that there would be.
- Yeah.
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There's a flaw in the system someplace.
Okay. I'm glad nobody was hurt.
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Yeah.
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