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She sent you these wigs,
but she doesn't have any money.
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She didn't want to reply,
and she just blocked me.
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Like, you're messing up my business.
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- I don't care.
- If I pulled up...
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Nobody is listening to you.
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Okay, well, can I leave?
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No.
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[narrator]
This is Judy Justice.
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[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[narrator]
Fatoumata Diallo is suing salon owner,
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{\an8}Kaniyah Taylor, for five wigs.
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[bailiff]
Court, come to order. All rise.
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Have a seat, please.
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Hello, Judge. Case #2008,
Diallo versus Taylor.
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- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
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Briefly, and then I'll get into specifics.
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- You sold over the Internet some wigs.
- Mm-hmm.
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You claim you sold them to the Defendant.
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[Judy]
They were charged on a credit card.
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According to you, it was the Defendant's
credit card. You shipped the wigs.
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The Defendant, according to you,
received the wigs,
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then challenged the credit card charge,
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and the charge was reversed
so that you did not get your money.
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and Miss Taylor kept the wigs.
It's Miss Taylor's claim
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that you never sold her the wigs,
that you sold the wigs to clients of hers,
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and if they didn't pay you,
that's not her problem.
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Is that your defense?
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Yes, Your Honor.
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Okay. Yes, ma'am. Stop jumping up and down
because it makes me seasick.
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Okay.
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[Judy whispers]
Stand still.
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[whispers]
I can't.
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[Judy]
You can't. Do you want a stool to sit on?
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- No.
- You sure?
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I just have anxiety.
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Okay. Miss Diallo, how long had you been
in the Online wig business?
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Three years now.
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And on what date
did Miss Taylor contact you?
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[Fatoumata]
October 1st of 2021.
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[Judy]
Had you ever dealt with her before?
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I haven't. A customer of mine
actually referred her to me.
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You had not dealt with her before?
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{\an8}- Correct.
- [Judy] And her first order was for what?
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{\an8}A 34 inch deep wave wig unit.
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I don't know what that is.
Tell me how much it cost you.
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$391.00.
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{\an8}[Judy]
And how much did you charge Miss Taylor?
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{\an8}$491.96.
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{\an8}- [Judy] And you shipped it to her?
- [Fatoumata] No, I didn't.
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[Judy]
Where did you ship it?
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Right now I didn't ship anything,
at the moment.
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Okay, so she ordered the first one
for $491?
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Yes. And then after that, I shipped after.
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[Judy]
How many did she order, all in total?
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In total, five.
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Within what period of time?
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In the span of four days.
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{\an8}Okay. And Miss Taylor, you do not
deny the fact that five wigs were ordered
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{\an8}in a conversation over the Internet
with the Plaintiff.
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Mm-hmm.
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- [Judy] Uh-huh is not an answer.
- Yes, ma'am.
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Do you have a copy of those orders?
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- [Fatoumata] Yes, ma'am.
- I'd like to see them, please.
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- Who's Joyce?
- One of my clients.
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- Your Honor, that's her.
- [Judy] Ssh!
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- Do you have a Mastercard?
- No, ma'am.
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- [Judy] Did you ever?
- No, ma'am.
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- [Judy] Do you have any credit card?
- Yes, ma'am.
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[Judy]
How long has Joyce been a client of yours?
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Probably about a year.
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When you say she's a client of yours,
she comes to your salon?
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- Yes, my apartment.
- [Judy] You have a salon?
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No, I do hair out of my apartment.
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- So she comes to your apartment?
- Yes, ma'am.
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And how do you know when she
wants to come for an appointment?
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{\an8}She'll text me, she'll DM me.
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{\an8}Okay, so she texts you, which means
she texts you from a phone.
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Right.
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Which means that you have your phone,
which shows her text messages.
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- Not-not...
- [Judy] What do you mean "not-not"?
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If she texts you for an appointment,
then you know how to contact her,
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and she knows how to contact you.
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I want to see that, I want to call her.
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- I don't have that phone anymore.
- [Judy] Get it.
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You have to understand where I'm going.
Do you understand?
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- Yes, I understand perfectly.
- [Judy] You understand.
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{\an8}- Who is that?
- My boyfriend.
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{\an8}[Judy] Your boyfriend?
What does he have to do with this?
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{\an8}Because he was at the house when
her and someone else came to the door.
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- [Judy] I don't care.
- Okay.
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If I were coming to court today,
and I knew that there was gonna be
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a certain amount of proof that involved
some person who is named Joyce.
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And order confirmation email
was sent to Joyce at your email address.
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[Kaniyah] Right.
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[Judy] Right. And Joyce is somebody
who was a client of yours for a year,
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not too long ago,
who's no longer a client of yours.
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Mm-hmm.
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[Judy]
Not uh-huh. Uh-huh isn't an answer.
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- Yes is an answer.
- Yes, ma'am.
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But you can't give me her number to call
because you lost your phone.
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{\an8}Yes, and she blocked me after
I started asking her about the dispute.
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{\an8}Just a second. Well,
that's two different things.
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She may have blocked your number.
She won't block my number.
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That's not what you told me. You told me
you don't have that phone anymore.
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- I don't. But she blocked me.
- [Judy] Just a second.
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- How do I know that?
- [Kaniyah] I don't know.
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How do I know that? Yeah, right. Okay.
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Dora Dynasty. Is that your...
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Yes, that's my business name.
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Well, these wigs
were sent to Dora Dynasty.
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- Right.
- [Judy] Right. I know right.
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And who is ...?
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A client.
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[Judy]
And is ... still your client?
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- [Kaniyah] No.
- [Judy] No. Okay.
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You seem to be having
a lot of trouble in your business.
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How? I've been having this trouble
ever since the wigs have got delivered,
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and she hit me about a dispute.
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[laughs] Let me explain something to you.
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You purchased the wigs.
Based upon her conversation...
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Just pay careful attention to me.
They were all delivered to you.
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Right.
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That means you bought them. If somebody
stiffed you, that's not her problem.
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But according to her, and you acknowledge,
that she sent you five wigs.
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- Mm-hmm.
- [Judy] And the...
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Uh-huh is not an answer.
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- Do you understand?
- Yes.
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You're following me? Okay.
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What was the total value of her purchase?
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{\an8}$2,196.
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{\an8}[Judy] And can I see the reversal of
that charge on your credit card?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Now, at some point,
your credit card was charged.
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At some point, your credit card
was charged. That's either a yes or a no.
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No.
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[Judy]
Whose credit card was charged?
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- My clients.
- Which client?
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I'm not sure. Whichever wig
she said was disputed.
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You said in your answer
you kept all the wigs.
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No, I didn't. I didn't keep all the wigs.
They got delivered to my house.
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Two of them I installed,
and the rest they picked up.
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"The wigs got shipped
directly to my salon."
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The wigs shipped to my apartment
'cause I was gonna do their hair.
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I told them about the vendor.
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Are you trying to tell me that despite
the records that she has,
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{\an8}that you were the contact person
on all of this?
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{\an8}- Right.
- [Judy] Nobody else.
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{\an8}- Right. Right.
- [Judy] Just you.
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{\an8}That you gave these wigs
to somebody else?
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- Four other people.
- They paid for 'em.
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- They paid who?
- [Kaniyah] They paid her.
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They paid for the wigs, and they
got them shipped to my house.
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Were four different people
charged for the wigs?
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- Yes. Yes.
- [Judy] Four different people?
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She did five different transactions.
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{\an8}Are you telling me that the five
different transactions were all her?
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- All her.
- That makes my life easy.
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So what you're saying to me,
she charged it on five different cards?
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- Yes.
- [Judy] But she is all of those people.
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- All of them.
- [Judy] I'd like to see it.
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Please.
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And Your Honor,
she also admits it on Twitter.
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She doesn't actually know
I have her Twitter account.
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And this is how she gets them.
She orders, she...
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May I just see it, please?
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See how you're smiling? Bad.
She should have left you home.
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- Ma'am, please.
- Do you understand?
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She should have left you home.
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No, they're just not communicating right.
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They ain't communicating right.
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Still, not a good look from you.
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[theme music playing]
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{\an8}[narrator] Fatoumata Diallo
claims salon owner,
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{\an8}Kaniyah Taylor, owes
for the cost of five wigs.
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- What's Beauty?
- That's her business name.
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Business Twitter.
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- I don't have a Twitter.
- Right.
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I have an instagram. Two of 'em.
And a business page.
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That's what I have.
I don't have a Twitter.
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- Do you have my instagram?
- I do.
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Don't talk to each other.
Don't ask her any questions.
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- That's so interesting.
- What?
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From Dora Dora Salon. Is that it?
Or Dora Salon?
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- [Fatoumata] Yes, ma'am.
- [Kaniyah] No.
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- I have her LLC...
- [Judy] Just a second. Yeah.
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- Can I see that?
- Yes.
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It's Dora Dynasty.
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And here's her LLC. It matches.
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I'd like to see it.
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[Fatoumata]
And here you go as well.
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Well, this is from
Beauty at Dora Salon One.
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No.
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What do you mean, no?
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No, my business name is Dora Dynasty.
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Yeah. Dora Salon One Beauty.
Dora Dynasty, LLC. Dora's Dynasty.
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And about the same time the Tweet is,
"Over $2000 in wigs. I'll smack those ...
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On the 13th, you write,
"My wigs come tomorrow."
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And then, on October 11th,
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"I'll be wrong if I dispute it
once I get it."
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And then, I don't know what are...
What is... Just a second.
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- I'm reading something.
- Mm-hmm.
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Uh-huh is not an answer.
I didn't ask anything.
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What does that mean, Sarah?
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It's just an emoji. Like a,
"So what?" "I don't care."
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Oh. "I'll be wrong if I dispute it
once I get it." So what?
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"But ... was so rude.
I can't even ask them questions.
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Telling me I didn't read it."
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And then she writes...
See how you're smiling?
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{\an8}Bad. She should have left you home.
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{\an8}- Ma'am, please.
- [Judy] Do you understand?
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{\an8}- She shoulda left you home.
- Nah.
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- They're just not communicating right.
- She shoulda left you home.
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"I paid all this money for these wigs
and these slow rolling. Wow."
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I assume that those people
were the clients
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that you were talking about
was slow rolling.
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Would that be a fair statement?
I'm not familiar with all of this.
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{\an8}And then you show me in these tweets,
or whatever they call them,
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{\an8}a picture that was put up by Boo.
Is that a name?
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- [Fatoumata] Yes.
- Now, what is that?
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That's her client actually contacted me
and telling me that she's charged her
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for the wigs and that
she was never a stylist to begin with.
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How did I upcharge the fee
when they paid for their sales?
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[Judy]
Nobody hears you, madame.
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Okay, so you acknowledge you got them.
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Your statement is you no longer have them.
She didn't make a deal with you.
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She made a deal with
four other phantom clients,
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two of whom, either you lost your phone,
the dog ate your phone,
228
00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,533
you don't have the number anymore,
you don't have the contact anymore,
229
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but we don't know
how to get in touch with them.
230
00:10:58,867 --> 00:11:03,000
And then, there was somebody
that actually was wearing one of the wigs
231
00:11:03,066 --> 00:11:05,633
that she didn't get paid for,
that she got from you.
232
00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:06,934
That's not true.
233
00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,633
Could I see the invoice
and the chargeback, please?
234
00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:10,700
[Fatoumata]
Yes.
235
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Still not a good look from you.
236
00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,333
- [mutters]
- Yeah, not a good look.
237
00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,133
[Kaniyah]
It's funny because it's not true.
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[Judy]
Not a good look.
239
00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:24,400
You the boyfriend?
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[Bralin]
Yeah.
241
00:11:25,533 --> 00:11:28,367
Stand up for a minute.
Just have a couple of questions.
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Tell me your name.
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Bralin Wright.
244
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What do you do for a living?
245
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I'm a barber.
246
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- [Judy] Do you live together?
- Yes.
247
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How long have you lived together?
248
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Going on a year.
249
00:11:39,266 --> 00:11:41,734
So, you were living with her
when these wigs were delivered?
250
00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,600
- Yeah. Yes.
- [Judy] Yes, would be an answer.
251
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Were you there when she opened the wigs?
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{\an8}One wig she had to put together
for a client.
253
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{\an8}That she opened. She told me she was doing
I won't be in her business like that.
254
00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,500
So the answer is, you were only there
when one wig was delivered.
255
00:11:57,567 --> 00:11:59,333
I was only there when she opened one wig.
256
00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,600
When she opened one.
257
00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:02,767
And I took her to go pick up a wig
from her.
258
00:12:02,834 --> 00:12:04,867
- Did you drive her there?
- [Bralin] Yeah.
259
00:12:04,934 --> 00:12:06,100
[Judy]
Did you go in with her?
260
00:12:06,166 --> 00:12:09,000
No, she came outside.
She walked across the street and got it.
261
00:12:09,066 --> 00:12:11,000
- Your Honor...
- [Judy] Don't speak.
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00:12:11,066 --> 00:12:13,500
She walked across the street and got it.
263
00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:14,834
From her, yeah. downtown.
264
00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:17,500
Your Honor, she was actually driving.
'Cause...
265
00:12:17,567 --> 00:12:19,734
[Judy]
Do you work out of the apartment as well?
266
00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,333
- No.
- [Judy] You work out of a shop?
267
00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,333
Yes.
268
00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,033
Are you ever there when
your girlfriend is working on clients
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in your house, in your apartment?
270
00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,100
- Yeah, I've been there.
- Often?
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00:12:29,166 --> 00:12:31,700
Not really, I'd be gone.
Working hours, I'm working.
272
00:12:31,767 --> 00:12:34,667
She worked at the house,
I'm working at shop.
273
00:12:34,734 --> 00:12:38,967
How many rooms are in the place where
you and the defendant live?
274
00:12:39,033 --> 00:12:41,967
At the time, we were in
a two bedroom apartment.
275
00:12:42,033 --> 00:12:43,800
And who was there? Just the two of you?
276
00:12:43,867 --> 00:12:45,166
No, we had a roommate.
277
00:12:45,233 --> 00:12:47,500
[Judy]
So, you had one bedroom for yourselves.
278
00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:51,033
You had a roommate, and then there
was a common area, kitchen, living room.
279
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- Right?
- Yes.
280
00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:55,567
Where did she conduct her salon business?
In what room?
281
00:12:55,633 --> 00:12:57,467
What would be like
the dining room area.
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- [Judy] In the dining room.
- Yeah.
283
00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,233
- Is that where she kept her equipment?
- Yes.
284
00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:03,633
{\an8}- Is that where she kept her materials?
- Yes.
285
00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:07,200
{\an8}How many wigs did you see in
that dining room area at any one time
286
00:13:07,266 --> 00:13:09,033
during the time you were living there?
287
00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:12,934
Maybe one she was working on [indistinct].
Two, maybe two, at the most.
288
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,667
You paid rent in the apartment?
289
00:13:14,734 --> 00:13:16,367
Did I pay rent? No.
290
00:13:16,433 --> 00:13:17,433
[Judy]
Did she pay rent?
291
00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:18,934
- Yes.
- [Judy] How much?
292
00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,433
It was like, what, $1,200?
293
00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:21,633
Don't ask her anything.
294
00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:25,166
$1,200 I don't pay the rent. $1,200.
[chuckles]
295
00:13:25,233 --> 00:13:27,166
I don't pay it so I don't know.
296
00:13:27,233 --> 00:13:28,967
Why don't you pay anything towards rent?
297
00:13:29,033 --> 00:13:31,100
I don't have to pay the rent
if I pay the bills,
298
00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:34,233
I pay car notes.
I pay different stuff. We're 50/50.
299
00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:36,934
Well, if it's 50/50,
then you would also pay part of the rent.
300
00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,166
Not if you add up to both our car notes,
rent, which really be a little bit more.
301
00:13:41,233 --> 00:13:43,633
Okay, so you pay the other bills,
she pays the rent.
302
00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:45,900
I moved in with her. I ain't
living there the whole time.
303
00:13:45,967 --> 00:13:48,867
I told you, it was only like a year.
She was already staying there.
304
00:13:48,934 --> 00:13:49,800
I moved in.
305
00:13:49,867 --> 00:13:52,834
With what did you pay the car note?
With a check?
306
00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:55,600
No, I pay with either a card or my money.
307
00:13:55,667 --> 00:13:57,433
Your girlfriend, does she have a car?
308
00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:58,467
Does she have a car?
309
00:13:58,533 --> 00:13:59,934
[Judy]
Yes, that's a yes or a no.
310
00:14:00,066 --> 00:14:01,967
- Not right now. She did.
- Did she?
311
00:14:02,033 --> 00:14:03,667
- Yes.
- What kind of car did she have?
312
00:14:03,734 --> 00:14:04,834
[Bralin]
Chevrolet Sonic.
313
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[Judy]
And what happened to that car?
314
00:14:06,633 --> 00:14:10,800
It got, um... Whatever, repo...
315
00:14:10,867 --> 00:14:12,133
[Judy]
It was repossessed.
316
00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,367
They was scamming me on my insurance.
317
00:14:14,433 --> 00:14:18,066
Just a second. I didn't ask you anything.
I'm asking your witness.
318
00:14:18,133 --> 00:14:20,133
- Okay. Right.
- [Judy] You brought him.
319
00:14:22,834 --> 00:14:24,567
I'm not the only person she's suing.
320
00:14:24,633 --> 00:14:27,500
- If I put up...
- [Judy] Nobody... Nobody...
321
00:14:27,567 --> 00:14:29,834
Nobody is listening to you.
322
00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:31,367
Okay, well, can I leave?
323
00:14:31,433 --> 00:14:32,367
No.
324
00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,233
[theme music playing]
325
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{\an8}[narrator] Fatoumata Diallo has accused
salon owner, Kaniyah Taylor,
326
00:14:49,834 --> 00:14:55,400
{\an8}of stealing five wigs. Kaniyah says
Fatoumata was trying to scam her.
327
00:14:55,467 --> 00:14:58,200
So the car was repossessed. When?
328
00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,233
Don't look at her. Give me a month.
Give me a year.
329
00:15:02,300 --> 00:15:04,800
Was it recent? In the last
three months, four months?
330
00:15:04,867 --> 00:15:06,834
It was... I can't give you the month.
331
00:15:06,900 --> 00:15:10,700
So it was repossessed because of
non payment of whatever the note was,
332
00:15:10,767 --> 00:15:13,266
'cause that's the only basis
to repossess a car.
333
00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:17,133
Okay, now you say you're not
living in that same apartment anymore.
334
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,800
You were living in this two
bedroom apartment with a roommate?
335
00:15:19,867 --> 00:15:21,867
- Mm-hmm.
- [Judy] Uh-huh is not an answer.
336
00:15:21,934 --> 00:15:23,033
- Yes is an answer.
- Yes.
337
00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:25,100
And you're no longer
living in that apartment?
338
00:15:25,166 --> 00:15:27,033
- [Bralin] No.
- What happened to that apartment?
339
00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:28,934
I moved. She moved with me.
340
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,266
Okay. You moved when?
341
00:15:31,333 --> 00:15:32,667
November.
342
00:15:32,734 --> 00:15:34,700
- [Judy] November of 2021?
- Yeah.
343
00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:37,967
Just about the time of
all these disputes over wigs.
344
00:15:38,033 --> 00:15:40,033
Did your roommate remain in the apartment?
345
00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:41,000
[Bralin]
Yes.
346
00:15:41,066 --> 00:15:42,934
[Judy]
Did you have a lease in that apartment?
347
00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,100
- [Kaniyah] Yes.
- [Judy] Was your lease over,
348
00:15:45,166 --> 00:15:47,500
or did you move out during the lease?
349
00:15:47,567 --> 00:15:50,500
It was over and
I renewed it for my roommate.
350
00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:52,767
Now, the lease was in your name.
351
00:15:52,834 --> 00:15:54,667
- Mm-hmm.
- [Judy] Uh-huh is not an answer.
352
00:15:54,734 --> 00:15:55,600
- Yes is an answer.
- Yes.
353
00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:57,934
And you renewed the lease
even though you moved out?
354
00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,100
- Yes, ma'am.
- Where are you living now?
355
00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:02,166
- In Conyers.
- [Judy] What kind of place?
356
00:16:02,233 --> 00:16:04,400
House. And I pay all the bills.
357
00:16:04,467 --> 00:16:06,000
And what does your girlfriend do?
358
00:16:06,066 --> 00:16:08,400
- She works.
- What does she do?
359
00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:11,900
She does lashes, she does hair,
she does nails.
360
00:16:11,967 --> 00:16:13,367
She's an entrepreneur.
361
00:16:13,433 --> 00:16:15,100
- Does she have a website?
- [Bralin] Yes.
362
00:16:15,166 --> 00:16:16,934
[Judy]
What's the name of her website?
363
00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,867
- I think Dora Dynasty.
- [Judy] You think?
364
00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:21,400
Yeah, I think.
I don't be on it. I don't shop there.
365
00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:22,867
Got it?
366
00:16:22,934 --> 00:16:24,066
Looking.
367
00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:28,533
Did you have a conversation
with Miss Taylor about these five wigs?
368
00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,233
Did you have a conversation with her?
369
00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:31,166
Yes.
370
00:16:31,233 --> 00:16:32,700
[Judy]
Do you have a cell phone?
371
00:16:32,767 --> 00:16:35,300
- [Bralin] Me? No.
- [Judy] Did you ever have a cell phone?
372
00:16:35,367 --> 00:16:37,133
- Yeah.
- What happened to your cell phone?
373
00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,767
I broke it, so I went on another one.
374
00:16:38,834 --> 00:16:40,166
And you didn't get another one?
375
00:16:40,233 --> 00:16:42,367
{\an8}It has to get sent to the house.
I just broke it.
376
00:16:42,433 --> 00:16:45,133
{\an8}- Like I just broke it.
- [Judy] You just broke it?
377
00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,667
Yeah, last week.
378
00:16:46,734 --> 00:16:48,433
Tell me how you broke the cell phone.
379
00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:49,900
I got real angry and I threw it.
380
00:16:49,967 --> 00:16:52,233
- [Judy] You got angry with somebody?
- Yes.
381
00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:54,567
And tell me how your girlfriend
lost her cell phone.
382
00:16:54,633 --> 00:16:56,200
Oh, she gave it to me.
383
00:16:56,266 --> 00:16:58,200
When did she lose her cell phone?
384
00:16:58,266 --> 00:17:00,800
She gave me that phone.
I bought her another phone.
385
00:17:00,867 --> 00:17:03,867
- She gave me that phone.
- [Judy] She gave you... Just a second.
386
00:17:03,934 --> 00:17:07,333
So, she gave you the phone
that she had been using,
387
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,333
[Bralin]
Yes.
388
00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,800
which had Joyce's information on it.
That was the phone she gave you?
389
00:17:11,867 --> 00:17:14,600
I guess. I don't know Joyce.
I don't know who Joyce is.
390
00:17:14,667 --> 00:17:15,834
Sit down.
391
00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:18,734
[laughs]
392
00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,133
Miss Taylor, you want to be in business,
you have to pay for what you ordered.
393
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,033
It's absolutely...
I'm not speaking to you.
394
00:17:24,100 --> 00:17:26,166
It's absolutely outrageous
that she sent you these wigs,
395
00:17:26,233 --> 00:17:28,033
they were delivered to your house.
396
00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:30,767
And she not only doesn't have the wigs,
she doesn't have,
397
00:17:30,834 --> 00:17:32,834
not only her profit,
she doesn't have any money.
398
00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:35,400
And you've got a lot of clients
that you can't identify
399
00:17:35,467 --> 00:17:39,066
in phones that got lost and
information that you don't have.
400
00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:42,600
And information that you don't have,
that you don't have.
401
00:17:42,667 --> 00:17:45,100
Clients that are no longer...
Clients that blocked you.
402
00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:47,734
People who block you
after you work for them for a year,
403
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,266
that means that you're either
doing a lousy job or...
404
00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:53,200
No, because the way she came at me,
I actually chumped them off
405
00:17:53,266 --> 00:17:55,467
'cause I feel like you're
messing up my business.
406
00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:58,066
So I chumped them off,
and I guess she didn't want to reply
407
00:17:58,133 --> 00:17:59,400
and she just blocked me.
408
00:17:59,467 --> 00:18:01,433
[Judy]
$2,196, judgment for the Plaintiff.
409
00:18:01,500 --> 00:18:03,734
Your Honor, I have other text messages.
410
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,533
- She-
- I was out of business for...
411
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,400
I have to tell you something.
I can't discern
412
00:18:09,467 --> 00:18:12,934
whether you lost business
or not because of this.
413
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,834
I cannot discern that.
I can give you back the money
414
00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:21,600
that you lost as a result of
shipping her five wigs
415
00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:23,433
and not getting compensated for it.
416
00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:26,400
And I also have court fees,
and I ordered a PI as well.
417
00:18:26,467 --> 00:18:27,967
[Judy]
That, I will... Just a second.
418
00:18:28,033 --> 00:18:30,600
That I will hear.
What were your court fees?
419
00:18:30,667 --> 00:18:33,800
[Kaniyah]
I'm not the only person you suing.
420
00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:36,533
- If I put up...
- [Judy] Nobody... Nobody...
421
00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,900
Nobody is listening to you.
422
00:18:38,967 --> 00:18:40,433
Okay, well, can I leave?
423
00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:41,433
No.
424
00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:46,500
[Judy]
Court fees.
425
00:18:46,567 --> 00:18:48,066
And I also have my incident report.
426
00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:51,033
Just a second. Would you please
just give me the court fees?
427
00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,633
You said you had court fees and
you hired an investigator.
428
00:18:53,700 --> 00:18:54,667
Yes, I did.
429
00:18:54,734 --> 00:18:58,367
And I'd like to see that invoice,
because that, you're entitled to.
430
00:18:59,767 --> 00:19:01,633
I have to text messages with my PI.
431
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:08,934
I don't know what this is.
432
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,266
I don't know what this is
that you handed me.
433
00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:13,133
I asked you what the court fees were.
434
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,367
[Fatoumata]
I have my PI phone number.
435
00:19:15,433 --> 00:19:18,333
I didn't print out my court fees
but I do have my...
436
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,300
Do you have an invoice from the
investigator that you say that you hired?
437
00:19:23,367 --> 00:19:25,100
- Yes.
- And the work that they did?
438
00:19:25,166 --> 00:19:26,600
Yes, I have all the messages.
439
00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:29,667
I don't want messages.
I need an invoice, a payment...
440
00:19:29,734 --> 00:19:31,500
I did a payment, $400.
441
00:19:31,567 --> 00:19:34,367
And we have the text message
trying to find her, everything.
442
00:19:34,433 --> 00:19:35,633
[Judy]
Can I see it, please?
443
00:19:43,467 --> 00:19:49,367
It was $250 for skip tracing
and $150 for service.
444
00:19:49,433 --> 00:19:50,667
My sales went down...
445
00:19:50,734 --> 00:19:53,133
Just a second. Did this person serve her?
446
00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,400
Yes, they did.
447
00:19:54,467 --> 00:19:57,233
$2,196, judgment for the Plaintiff.
That's it, we're done.
448
00:19:57,300 --> 00:19:58,767
[bailiff]
This court is adjourned.
449
00:20:01,467 --> 00:20:04,567
I never did it. You know,
I just got it sent to my house.
450
00:20:04,633 --> 00:20:07,767
We went through everything.
We had to go through birthdays.
451
00:20:07,834 --> 00:20:12,533
It's like saying, oh, um, I know a friend.
They know how to cut hair.
452
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,567
Text messages, everything.
453
00:20:14,633 --> 00:20:16,133
Then, you don't like your haircut?
454
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,333
You want me to pay for your haircut?
Like, girl.
455
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,467
We literally hawked her down
for the information.
456
00:20:20,533 --> 00:20:22,900
She honestly messed up my clientele.
457
00:20:24,166 --> 00:20:27,200
It would be easy to be
forthcoming with me and say,
458
00:20:27,266 --> 00:20:30,033
these are the clients who I sold it to.
459
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:33,834
I gave her the information.
They were supposed to pay her, whatever.
460
00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:36,600
- But she didn't.
- Lot of running around so close to work.
461
00:20:36,667 --> 00:20:39,800
And there's no question that
the plaintiff sold her those wigs.
462
00:20:39,867 --> 00:20:42,367
She made a markup. She made
a 25% mark up. That's okay.
463
00:20:42,433 --> 00:20:46,400
And I'm certain that she put in the wigs
and made her own markup.
464
00:20:46,467 --> 00:20:48,066
- Yep.
- You know, that's commerce.
465
00:20:48,133 --> 00:20:53,233
But this ability to reverse charges
on a credit card and to have somebody,
466
00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:56,200
and it's usually just a person,
we're not talking about a committee
467
00:20:56,266 --> 00:21:01,200
or a tribunal that determine
whether or not the charge was legitimate,
468
00:21:01,266 --> 00:21:03,166
just to reverse it and then where are you?
469
00:21:03,233 --> 00:21:05,600
You left without your product.
Very frustrating.
470
00:21:05,667 --> 00:21:07,800
It's a double edged sword.
It can be very useful.
471
00:21:07,867 --> 00:21:10,233
I've had to do that
on a few different occasions,
472
00:21:10,300 --> 00:21:13,934
and the process is very hidden
and sort of behind the curtain.
473
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,934
And I fear for people like the Plaintiff
who run their own business,
474
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,066
hard working people who make
the best money on the Internet
475
00:21:20,133 --> 00:21:22,400
because there's no overhead fee
of running a store.
476
00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:25,100
But these are some of the risks
and things that you have to ensure
477
00:21:25,166 --> 00:21:26,800
before you get into business.
478
00:21:26,867 --> 00:21:29,300
Well, too bad. Too bad
people don't do the right thing.
479
00:21:29,367 --> 00:21:32,033
If they did the right thing.
We'd be out of business.
480
00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:37,266
[narrator]
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