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[water gurgling]
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[somber piano music]
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- It's just the saddest thing
in the world
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To think that tom and larry
lasted such a short time.
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- This was one of the most
graphic crime scenes
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I've ever been to.
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- There was blood everywhere.
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- Seeing the two dead bodies
downstairs
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And the footprints
upstairs--bloody,
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Leaving the area--we definitely
had a killer on the loose.
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- We have to think
about whether or not
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This could be
a crime of passion.
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- I mean, how do you stab
someone 28 times?
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- How could this happen
to our friends?
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We were in--in total disbelief
that it could have happened.
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- We found a whole slew
of cards,
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A card for every day
in February.
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- When the bodies were brought
into the coroner's office,
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The question as to whether or
not this was a love triangle.
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He seems to be obsessed.
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I want this guy dead,
and I want him to suffer.
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- That was the saddest day
of our lives.
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[tense music]
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[man sobbing]
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[dramatic music]
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[waves crashing]
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[atmospheric music]
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- Quintessential
family-oriented community.
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- It's a beautiful city.
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They have beautiful homes,
lovely homes.
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- And we could go down
to balboa
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And walk around and dream
about having a wonderful--
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A little house
on balboa island.
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- It has been the number one
safest city
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For numerous years in a row.
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- I think if people had money
and they had a choice,
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I think many of them wanted
to go and live in irvine.
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- It's a beautiful, beautiful,
wonderful place to live.
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- Bad things don't happen
very often here.
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But they do happen.
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Narrator: It's easy
to imagine growing old
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Under
the golden california sun.
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But life in this stunning part
of orange county
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Isn't always so pretty.
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In the summer of 1999,
dark clouds
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Roll over the irvine community
of solana.
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- I'm larry montgomery.
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In 1999, I was an investigator
in charge of
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The crimes against
persons unit
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At irvine police department.
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On the 20th of July, 1999,
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Police department was called
because a man and his daughter
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Had gone to a house in irvine
to take a piano lesson
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And the people in the house
did not respond.
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[tense music]
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The gentleman opened the door
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And he smelled natural gas
in the house.
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He still was able
to come in a short distance
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And look down a staircase
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Where he saw
what looked like a dead body
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And immediately called
the police department.
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- My name is mike hamel,
the chief of police
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For the city of irvine
in california.
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In 1999,
I was a police detective
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Assigned
to crimes against persons
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Here at the irvine
police department.
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A call came out over the radio
of a possible 187,
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Which is a murder.
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When I arrived there,
there were about
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Four other officers on scene.
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The paramedics were there.
Fire was there.
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We knew that we had
to go inside the residence
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To check on victims,
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To ensure there were no
suspects that were still there.
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- Once it's determined that
there's gas inside that house,
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You now have to be very careful
opening windows, opening doors,
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And without giving it
any source of ignition
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Like a static electricity.
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They cordoned off the area.
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And they were able to shut
the gas off in hopes of
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Airing out the house
before they could enter
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Safely to help out
with the investigation.
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- So the first thing
that I noticed as we were
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Approaching the front door
is this red brick porch area.
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And I could see what appeared
to be bloody footprints.
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We got inside the house,
we began to walk
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Around the different areas--
into the kitchen,
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Into the laundry room.
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We began to see
these bloody footprints
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All over the house,
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Eventually making our way
down the stairs.
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- Going down those stairs
to the first body,
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That particular individual
was on his back
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And he had numerous stab wounds
that we could see--
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At least, they appeared
to be stab wounds on his body.
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Passing him,
there was a door to the right,
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And that was the entranceway
to the master bedroom.
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[tense music]
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- We enter the master bedroom
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And went around
the side of the bed.
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And that's where we saw
the second victim.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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He too had sustained
multiple stab wounds.
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- I don't think I recall
a scene that I've been to
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That had more blood splatter
on the walls, on the ceilings.
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- This was one of
the most, uh...
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Graphic crime scenes
I've ever been to.
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One of the things
that's standard for us
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During these cases is to do
a neighborhood canvass--
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Talk to all the neighbors.
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So myself, other detectives
did this,
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And we really came up empty.
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No one that heard
anything that night.
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Based upon
how the crime occurred,
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There was no sign
of forced entry.
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One of the things that's always
important for us to do
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Is to positively identify
the victims.
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- When we got down
to the second body
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In the bedroom, there was
actually some clothing there.
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And in the clothing,
there was id
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For a lawrence wong.
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[ominous music]
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- We had the name
of the primary resident
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To verify the person
that we found
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Deceased inside the residence
as tom whitney.
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We found his wallet
and his identification card.
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- Tom whitney,
he played the piano;
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He played a number
of instruments.
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He was 60 years old.
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And he seemed like
a nice individual
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From everything
we learned about him.
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[sentimental music]
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- My name is joan rutkowski.
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Tom whitney was my friend--
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My friend for a long,
long time--1965.
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We first met while we were
graduate students
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In the music department at usc.
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He was a happy person.
He loved to laugh.
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We used to laugh so much.
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He was a really good soul--
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That kind of good person,
that kind of good friend.
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You pick up the phone
and call him,
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Tom would listen for hours.
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- My name is bolen high.
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I met tom in new york.
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He was introduced to me
through a mutual friend.
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He was
a very accomplished pianist.
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He was also
a musical director.
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And he was
a wonderful teacher.
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He loved to teach piano.
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That was one of the--one of
the gifts that he was given
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Is the joy of "helping people
turn on to music,"
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Is the way he put it.
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And it gave him great joy.
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- Tom had
these incredible eyes.
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And they were very blue.
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He looks a little sad here.
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Being gay was not something
that was approved
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In his family.
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It was hard.
Those days were difficult.
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Now it's a totally
different world we live in.
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- In our conversation,
tom said,
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"you know, I've met someone
that I think could really work.
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His name is larry wong."
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- Larry was on the same plane
as tom.
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Larry was a fabulous musician
and a classical musician
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And a wonderful pianist
and coach for opera singers.
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- Larry wong, somebody
who I got to know his character
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Through working this case
and interviewing people
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That were his friends
and family
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And coming to learn
that larry, too,
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Was a caring and gentle man.
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Larry worked at
la harbor college,
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And I believe that's
how tom and larry met
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Was through
their love of music.
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- And I said, "well, it sounds
like you met someone
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That maybe will turn out
to be a lasting relationship."
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He said, "I think
it might very well."
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- He was a good match.
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And it's just the saddest thing
in the world to think
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That it--
it lasted such a short time.
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[waves roaring]
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Narrator: At the crime scene,
detectives continue
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To sort out the pieces
of the puzzle.
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- As part of our overall survey
of the entire residence,
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We look in every nook
and cranny,
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One of the things that
we located was a knife block.
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And in this knife block,
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It looked like there was
a knife that had blood on it.
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Crime scene investigators
had discovered
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That there were actually
two large kitchen knives
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That were in the knife block
that were covered in blood.
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[dramatic tone]
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- Does that mean there's more
than one person?
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Does that mean
they'd used both hands?
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I don't know.
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When we looked at the victims,
tom had 36 stab wounds,
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Which is a hefty amount
of stab wounds.
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Larry wong had 25.
That's overkill.
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Whoever did this,
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Are they more angry
with one over the other?
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One thing we did notice is
there were bloody footprints
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On the actual tile--
really distinct,
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Very accurately placed
footprints
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Coming in and out
of the areas of the house.
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If you're looking
at this crime scene,
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Seeing the bloody
footprints upstairs,
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Away from the victims,
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We knew we had
a killer on the loose
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And we don't know who it is.
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Narrator: Detectives find
a trail of bloody footprints
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Around tom's home.
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Could these gruesome missteps
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Reveal the secret identity
of tom and larry's killer?
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- The fact that we only saw
one set of bloody footprints
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Probably would limit it
to one person using two knives.
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We now know
the size of the foot,
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We know if we find somebody
that knew these people
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And had a grudge against them,
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And they had
the same size foot,
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That gives us
something to look at.
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Basically,
if the sock doesn't fit,
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It's not gonna be that person.
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[dramatic music]
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- He perhaps met some people
that he would not have ever
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Had any contact with
under different circumstances.
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- Larry's sister mentioned
that larry wong had been
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In a previous relationship that
was a long-term relationship.
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- Please, I want to go home.
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I want to go home.
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- When the policed call me,
I explained to them,
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"I don't know his name.
But I think I know who did it."
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[tense music]
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[somber music]
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[waves crashing]
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[somber music]
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- We received a telephone call
from a family friend
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Very early in the morning
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Saying that tom and larry
had been killed.
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And we didn't know how,
and we didn't really...
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Understand what possibly
could have happened.
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[tense music]
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It was so shocking.
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The barbarity, the anger,
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The cruelty,
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Something I've never seen
or--
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Or ever experienced ever.
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Tremendous sadness.
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Anger.
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How could this happen
to our friends?
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- My name is sam allevato.
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In 1999, I was the lieutenant
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In charge
of the investigative bureau
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For the city of irvine
police department.
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Because of the fact
that it appeared
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That there was no forced entry
into the residence,
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Initially, you would think,
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"okay, this is not a stranger
to these two victims.
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Someone they knew."
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So that kind of lessens
the opinion
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That this would have been
a random attack.
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Stab wounds on the victims
is very personal.
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That indicates a very
heat-of-passion type of crime.
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♪ ♪
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- When we're looking
at a crime scene like this,
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We have to look at exactly
what's going on inside
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And who would have done it.
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♪ ♪
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Narrator: The brutal murders
of newly coupled
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Larry wong and tom whitney
has cast a dark shadow
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Over their cheery irvine,
california, neighborhood.
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While evidence suggests
the slayings were committed
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By someone who knew them,
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Neighbors
still feel their loss
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And wonder when their killer
will be found.
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The murderer left a mess
at the crime scene,
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Providing a treasure trove
of evidence.
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♪ ♪
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- Since we looked at this
crime from the point of view
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Of who would do this
horrendous amount of stabbing
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And knew that there was
probably consistent
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With somebody with passion,
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You could be hurt
very easily if the person
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Finds another weapon
to come back at you
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'cause they don't die
right away,
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'cause--unless you hit
something like a heart
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Or something
that'll kill them.
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But a lot of things
won't kill you right away.
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So this is just not something
you plan to do as a crime
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To get something
from the house.
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It is something you would do
if you're passionate about,
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"I want this guy dead
and I want him to suffer."
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So that's what this scene
tells us--
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We may want to look that way.
Not guaranteed,
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But we may want to look
that way first.
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That's where
it's pointing towards
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From the evidence
we saw at the scene.
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We're looking for somebody
that had passion
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Either on larry's side
or on tom's side.
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[dramatic music]
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- We did have somebody
reach out to us--
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Larry's sister--
that mentioned that larry wong
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Had been
in a previous relationship
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That was a long-term
relationship
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With someone
by the name of john rarick.
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And then digging a bit deeper
and finding out
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That john actually had a life
insurance policy on larry
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And the fact
that larry was killed--
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John was going to be
the recipient
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Of a large sum of money.
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We need to ask more questions,
dig deeper, examine motives,
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See if john has an alibi.
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[waves crashing]
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- John was obviously
heartbroken at the time
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When the breakup occurred.
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He was angry.
He was depressed.
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But when we gave him the news
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That the pair
had been murdered,
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He was not overly dramatic.
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- So one of the things
that john conveyed to us
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Is that larry had left him
to be with tom
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And that that did
pain him a lot.
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But john told us
that he was not responsible
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And knew nothing about
the murder of larry or tom.
338
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Narrator: Sure seems like
john rarick
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Had plenty to gain
from larry's death.
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But does that make him
a murderer?
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- John's alibi for the crime
was he was in a chatroom
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In north hollywood somewhere.
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Whether you can prove the alibi
or not is another thing.
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- So we interviewed
john rarick
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And we asked him where he was
between these hours.
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He was able
to produce documents
347
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That were date and time stamped
that showed his name
348
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And the fact that
he was in this chatroom.
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And of course, we followed up
with the internet service
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Provider to be sure that
these were genuine documents.
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One of the things we
did ruling john rarick out
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As a suspect
is we looked at his feet
353
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And we got impressions
of his feet.
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And his feet were much larger
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Than the footprints
at the crime scene.
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And we knew that
there is no way, physically,
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That his feet could have made
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Those impressions
at the crime scene.
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And we were certain
there was only one person
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That left bloody footprints
at the crime scene.
361
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Narrator: The ominous trail
of bloody footprints
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Along with
the coroner's findings
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Brings investigators
one step closer
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To the cold-blooded
killer's identity.
365
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- The coroner did a autopsy
on both victims.
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And in terms of the damage
done to the victims,
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Tom had more stab wounds.
368
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And one of the stab wounds
was right into the eye
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And another one was real
close to the other eye.
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[rising tense music]
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When you have this violent
type of activity,
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The possibility
of having a past lover
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Is certainly somebody
you want to look at.
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Who are the past lovers
of tom whitney?
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♪ ♪
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
378
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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Narrator:
Just a day after lovers
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Larry wong and tom whitney
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Are found dead in their
orange county condominium,
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Irvine detectives take a trip
down memory lane
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In search of a suspect.
385
00:17:19,672 --> 00:17:22,506
- When tom came out
in the '90s,
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It was a different world.
387
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And I think that tom
was almost like a teenager
388
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Because he was excited
finding new people,
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New people that didn't know
him as a serious musician,
390
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Who just knew him
as who he was: Tom.
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We had known tom for so long.
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We were family.
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And to lose a family
in such a violent way
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Is--is, you know, very sad.
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[emotional music]
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I think that when
he was experimenting
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And he was meeting
new people,
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He perhaps met some people
that he would not have ever,
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Ever had any contact with
under different circumstances.
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00:18:06,854 --> 00:18:09,254
- So now we have a whole team
of detectives
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That is going to the home,
searching for evidence,
402
00:18:12,692 --> 00:18:15,260
Looking for anything related
to the crime.
403
00:18:15,262 --> 00:18:17,628
We found a whole slew of cards.
404
00:18:17,630 --> 00:18:21,532
They were greeting cards that
were addressed to tom whitney,
405
00:18:21,534 --> 00:18:24,435
And they were signed
by someone named choy.
406
00:18:25,271 --> 00:18:27,538
- During this time, we could
not figure out who choy was.
407
00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:30,874
We didn't have any name
other than choy.
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00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:34,411
- We had a lot of people
calling us and telling us,
409
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"hey, I know tom.
410
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:37,848
I want to give you
information."
411
00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:40,618
And we asked friends
if they know who choy was.
412
00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:43,420
[dramatic music]
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00:18:43,422 --> 00:18:46,924
- When the police call me,
I explained to them,
414
00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:51,363
"I don't know his name,
but I think I know who did it."
415
00:18:51,365 --> 00:18:54,465
And I said, "I think
it was this young asian man
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That tom had been dating."
417
00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:58,335
I always called up tom
on his birthday,
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00:18:58,337 --> 00:19:00,204
Which was April 15th.
419
00:19:00,206 --> 00:19:03,542
This young man who he had
seen before
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00:19:03,544 --> 00:19:05,910
Was actually pounding
on his doors
421
00:19:05,912 --> 00:19:09,079
And trying to get in
when I called him.
422
00:19:09,081 --> 00:19:10,916
And tom was hysterical.
423
00:19:10,918 --> 00:19:12,817
I mean,
this guy was screaming.
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00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:14,285
He was running around
the house,
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00:19:14,287 --> 00:19:16,620
Pounding on the doors,
pounding on the windows.
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Tom then told me
that he had come in before
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00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:22,694
Through the garage.
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00:19:22,696 --> 00:19:26,297
And I said,
"tom, just call the police."
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00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:27,431
He said, "no, no.
I can't do that.
430
00:19:27,433 --> 00:19:28,966
I can't call the police."
431
00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:30,601
He said, "what would
the neighbors say?"
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And I said,
"this is california.
433
00:19:32,972 --> 00:19:35,071
I mean, things happen."
434
00:19:35,073 --> 00:19:37,474
He said, "no, no, not
in this--not where I live,"
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00:19:37,476 --> 00:19:40,945
Which was a very
protected community.
436
00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:44,114
- Learning from tom's sister
that tom had sold a car
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To this person named choy,
438
00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:47,585
We were able to run
the license plate
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And see who the new owner was,
440
00:19:49,655 --> 00:19:53,123
And through some other checks
and some other connections,
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00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:55,827
Identify the possible owner
of this car as vincent cheung.
442
00:20:01,067 --> 00:20:02,666
- My name is dave lopez.
443
00:20:02,668 --> 00:20:05,369
I was a reporter
in los angeles, orange county,
444
00:20:05,371 --> 00:20:07,037
Since 1972.
445
00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,974
Retired a little over
a year ago.
446
00:20:08,976 --> 00:20:13,111
In 1999, I was assigned
to the orange county bureau.
447
00:20:13,113 --> 00:20:15,514
What the police were
comfortable with is the fact
448
00:20:15,516 --> 00:20:19,484
That they were not dealing
with some massive crazy lunatic
449
00:20:19,486 --> 00:20:21,819
Who was gonna go out
and do the same thing again.
450
00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:24,456
It wasn't a case
where the media, you know,
451
00:20:24,458 --> 00:20:25,891
Said we've got
a killer on the loose
452
00:20:25,893 --> 00:20:28,525
And they just had to go
and find out who it was.
453
00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:31,862
And cheung,
who was known as choy
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In all these love letters,
he was their suspect.
455
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Narrator: There's a strong
probability this double murder
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Was a crime of passion.
457
00:20:40,406 --> 00:20:44,208
Now that there's no doubt
who the mysterious choy is,
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Detectives dig into his former
relationship with tom whitney.
459
00:20:48,482 --> 00:20:50,482
- Once we discover
who vincent is,
460
00:20:50,484 --> 00:20:54,551
We find that he has
a pretty big history of theft.
461
00:20:54,553 --> 00:20:56,488
He likes to steal things.
462
00:20:56,490 --> 00:20:59,357
He's not a really
upstanding citizen.
463
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,192
We did discover
that vincent cheung
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Had a relationship with tom,
465
00:21:04,798 --> 00:21:07,398
And it started about
six months earlier.
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[ominous piano music]
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00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:11,436
Vincent and tom are together.
468
00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,505
But they break up
right about the time
469
00:21:14,507 --> 00:21:18,876
That tom and larry
start coming together.
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- Tom was not
particularly proud
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00:21:20,713 --> 00:21:23,080
Of that relationship
with vincent.
472
00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:26,083
It was not something
serious for him.
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He was finding who he was
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And living a different life
for a while.
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♪ ♪
476
00:21:31,924 --> 00:21:35,759
- When tom said that, you know,
"I don't want you anymore,"
477
00:21:35,761 --> 00:21:39,663
It was devastating for cheung.
It was absolutely devastating.
478
00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:42,466
- When tom ended
that relationship
479
00:21:42,468 --> 00:21:44,001
And then subsequently
480
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Started another relationship
with another man,
481
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I think that freaked him out.
482
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Narrator: It's clear to
detectives that vincent cheung
483
00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:55,979
Couldn't get his pent-up
desire for tom off his mind.
484
00:21:55,981 --> 00:21:58,583
- Cheung, he'd always have
a camera with him.
485
00:21:58,585 --> 00:22:00,118
And he would just take picture
after picture
486
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:04,089
After picture of him
and tom or tom by himself.
487
00:22:04,091 --> 00:22:06,624
You know,
he would go into the house,
488
00:22:06,626 --> 00:22:09,459
And he would sit
on the piano naked,
489
00:22:09,461 --> 00:22:11,496
Waiting for tom to come home.
490
00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:15,566
Sometimes he would
surprise him in the garage.
491
00:22:15,568 --> 00:22:17,468
Tom would drive
into the garage
492
00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:19,636
And cheung would be
hiding somewhere
493
00:22:19,638 --> 00:22:22,674
And then pop up
out of nowhere.
494
00:22:22,676 --> 00:22:25,776
And he just would not
leave him alone.
495
00:22:25,778 --> 00:22:28,380
I mean, you talk about
an infatuation, that was it.
496
00:22:28,382 --> 00:22:30,514
[ominous music]
497
00:22:30,516 --> 00:22:32,417
- From talking
with other friends,
498
00:22:32,419 --> 00:22:34,752
There's information
that vincent,
499
00:22:34,754 --> 00:22:36,787
He's seen coming to the house
500
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:38,123
When he's not
supposed to be there,
501
00:22:38,125 --> 00:22:39,457
Knocking on the door,
502
00:22:39,459 --> 00:22:41,325
Leaving presents,
leaving gifts.
503
00:22:41,327 --> 00:22:43,128
He seems to be obsessed.
504
00:22:43,130 --> 00:22:46,130
♪ ♪
505
00:22:46,132 --> 00:22:51,136
- At this point, vincent cheung
became our primary suspect.
506
00:22:51,138 --> 00:22:55,906
♪ ♪
507
00:22:55,908 --> 00:22:57,676
- And our goal
was to interview him
508
00:22:57,678 --> 00:23:01,146
To see where he was the early
morning hours of July 27th.
509
00:23:01,148 --> 00:23:04,248
- I don't know nothing.
I don't know nothing.
510
00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:06,016
[sobs]
511
00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:08,153
- He was extremely upset
because we were talking
512
00:23:08,155 --> 00:23:11,156
To him about him being
involved in this incident
513
00:23:11,158 --> 00:23:12,856
Where these men died.
514
00:23:12,858 --> 00:23:15,959
♪ ♪
515
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,962
[tense music]
516
00:23:18,964 --> 00:23:19,029
♪ ♪
517
00:23:19,230 --> 00:23:26,537
[tense music]
518
00:23:26,838 --> 00:23:27,839
♪ ♪
519
00:23:27,841 --> 00:23:30,842
[waves crashing]
520
00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:37,781
Narrator: Two days after news
of a shocking double homicide
521
00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:40,852
Rocked one of california's
best places to live,
522
00:23:40,854 --> 00:23:42,953
Eccentric vincent cheung
523
00:23:42,955 --> 00:23:46,658
Tops the irvine police
department's suspect list.
524
00:23:46,660 --> 00:23:49,827
But did this obsessed ex
really stab tom whitney
525
00:23:49,829 --> 00:23:51,929
And his lover larry wong
to death?
526
00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:55,166
- Once the investigators
were able to determine
527
00:23:55,168 --> 00:23:58,136
That vincent cheung
was available
528
00:23:58,138 --> 00:24:01,138
Possibly to commit the crime,
looking into his history,
529
00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:03,106
They discovered he has
a warrant for his arrest
530
00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:05,476
For a parole violation
basically,
531
00:24:05,478 --> 00:24:06,977
The decision was made to,
532
00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:09,647
"let's get him
into custody asap,
533
00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:12,783
"just in case; if he is
in fact the guilty party,
534
00:24:12,785 --> 00:24:15,485
"we don't want him
absconding and leaving
535
00:24:15,487 --> 00:24:17,855
Or hurting somebody."
536
00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:19,923
- Police knew who they were
looking for.
537
00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:22,259
It was just a case now
of trying to find him.
538
00:24:22,261 --> 00:24:23,762
[tense music]
539
00:24:23,764 --> 00:24:26,296
- We have enough information
that now vincent cheung
540
00:24:26,298 --> 00:24:29,033
Is considered a suspect.
541
00:24:29,035 --> 00:24:32,903
So we now have a location
where we think he's living.
542
00:24:32,905 --> 00:24:35,939
At this point, we're talking
to the district attorney
543
00:24:35,941 --> 00:24:37,841
And to judges about
certain search warrants
544
00:24:37,843 --> 00:24:41,078
That we want to write
and obtain for his home
545
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,515
For the 1990 chevy lumina
that we were looking for.
546
00:24:44,517 --> 00:24:46,783
♪ ♪
547
00:24:46,785 --> 00:24:48,586
Meanwhile,
now that we have an address
548
00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:49,820
Where we think he lives,
549
00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:53,457
We have a special team that
we sent out to the residence.
550
00:24:53,459 --> 00:24:56,026
It was a residence
in san gabriel
551
00:24:56,028 --> 00:24:59,196
Where we believed that
he may live with his mother.
552
00:24:59,198 --> 00:25:02,266
- We went to
vincent's mother's house
553
00:25:02,268 --> 00:25:05,603
In the san gabriel valley
and spoke to her.
554
00:25:06,706 --> 00:25:08,772
- She was very helpful
and said
555
00:25:08,774 --> 00:25:11,042
That vincent has
had some issues
556
00:25:11,044 --> 00:25:13,977
And hasn't been around
the house
557
00:25:13,979 --> 00:25:17,881
And was not--at least
she couldn't give him an alibi
558
00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:20,283
For the night of the murder.
559
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:23,053
But she did say
that her son has problems.
560
00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:26,123
♪ ♪
561
00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:29,026
She said that
he has been in trouble.
562
00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:31,195
He's been incarcerated
for theft.
563
00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:33,565
Narrator: Police are confident
564
00:25:33,567 --> 00:25:35,299
They can outsmart
vincent cheung
565
00:25:35,301 --> 00:25:37,868
And waste no time
trying to track him down.
566
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:39,270
[radio chatter]
567
00:25:39,272 --> 00:25:42,139
- We had a stakeout
on vincent's house...
568
00:25:42,141 --> 00:25:45,042
[radio chatter]
569
00:25:45,044 --> 00:25:46,610
In hopes that maybe
he would return
570
00:25:46,612 --> 00:25:48,912
And we could find him.
571
00:25:48,914 --> 00:25:49,814
[radio chatter]
572
00:25:49,816 --> 00:25:51,381
[camera shutter clicking]
573
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:52,783
- As we are in the stakeout,
574
00:25:52,785 --> 00:25:55,252
There's a motel
across the street or nearby.
575
00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:57,754
[dramatic music]
576
00:25:57,756 --> 00:25:59,856
And we noticed, actually,
577
00:25:59,858 --> 00:26:01,992
Vincent had come out
of that motel
578
00:26:01,994 --> 00:26:05,829
And was coming across
the street to his mom's house.
579
00:26:05,831 --> 00:26:07,898
And so there he was.
580
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:11,034
And right in front of us.
We ended up arresting him.
581
00:26:11,036 --> 00:26:17,242
♪ ♪
582
00:26:17,244 --> 00:26:20,345
The arrest was for
the parole violation,
583
00:26:20,347 --> 00:26:22,880
And he understood.
584
00:26:22,882 --> 00:26:25,350
He even said,
"I figured that would happen."
585
00:26:25,352 --> 00:26:28,019
♪ ♪
586
00:26:28,021 --> 00:26:30,754
- So once he's in custody,
and we--at this point,
587
00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:32,356
We already have signed
search warrants.
588
00:26:32,358 --> 00:26:35,092
And we also were able
to associate him
589
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:37,362
With a hotel room
that was across the street
590
00:26:37,364 --> 00:26:39,062
From his residence.
591
00:26:39,064 --> 00:26:42,367
And we found out that he had
checked into the hotel room
592
00:26:42,369 --> 00:26:44,234
On the evening of the 27th,
593
00:26:44,236 --> 00:26:47,237
Which would have been
the same day
594
00:26:47,239 --> 00:26:49,774
That we discovered
the crime scene.
595
00:26:49,776 --> 00:26:51,208
And so we were able to
596
00:26:51,210 --> 00:26:52,643
Do what we call
a piggyback warrant
597
00:26:52,645 --> 00:26:54,945
And able to write
another warrant
598
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,780
To search the hotel room.
599
00:26:56,782 --> 00:26:57,881
Narrator:
Detectives have taken
600
00:26:57,883 --> 00:26:59,851
Vincent cheung into custody.
601
00:26:59,853 --> 00:27:03,053
With search warrants in hand,
would they find the evidence
602
00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:05,922
They needed to tie vincent
to the scene of the crime?
603
00:27:05,924 --> 00:27:07,057
- Pursuant to
the search warrant,
604
00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:08,492
We searched the garage.
605
00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:11,194
We found a car that was
under a blue tarp.
606
00:27:11,196 --> 00:27:13,398
Pulled back the blue tarp,
and that was
607
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,367
The 1990 chevy lumina
that we were looking for.
608
00:27:17,369 --> 00:27:18,936
The car that helped us
609
00:27:18,938 --> 00:27:20,470
Make that initial connection
to vincent,
610
00:27:20,472 --> 00:27:22,773
It was in his mom's garage.
611
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:24,408
And so we had a warrant
for that car.
612
00:27:24,410 --> 00:27:26,210
And rather than searching
the car there,
613
00:27:26,212 --> 00:27:28,979
We had this car towed to
the orange county crime lab
614
00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:30,614
So we could do
a better analysis of it.
615
00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:33,617
[dramatic tone]
616
00:27:33,619 --> 00:27:39,489
♪ ♪
617
00:27:39,491 --> 00:27:42,192
- During the time--
once vincent's under arrest
618
00:27:42,194 --> 00:27:45,395
And we did a search warrant
on the house,
619
00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:47,898
We discovered
a few interesting things.
620
00:27:49,602 --> 00:27:51,836
The date on the 27th,
621
00:27:51,838 --> 00:27:54,271
He had "goodbye" written
on his calendar.
622
00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:55,872
♪ ♪
623
00:27:55,874 --> 00:28:00,477
- This was the date
of the murder of tom and larry
624
00:28:00,479 --> 00:28:05,116
And would kind of indicate
to you that vincent had
625
00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:08,518
Said his final goodbye
to these two individuals.
626
00:28:09,288 --> 00:28:11,488
- Our goal was
to interview him to see
627
00:28:11,490 --> 00:28:14,691
Where he was the early
morning hours of July 27th.
628
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,434
- He was extremely upset
629
00:28:23,436 --> 00:28:25,168
Because we were
talking to him about him
630
00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:29,973
Being involved in this
incident where these men died.
631
00:28:29,975 --> 00:28:35,178
And his answers were not
consistent with innocence
632
00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:37,647
Of somebody being--'cause
they would be able to answer
633
00:28:37,649 --> 00:28:40,317
The questions we were asking
regarding the activities
634
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,252
That they were doing
at that time.
635
00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:44,622
And he just could not answer.
636
00:28:44,624 --> 00:28:47,925
He would just mumble something
or mumble,
637
00:28:47,927 --> 00:28:50,461
"I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know,"
638
00:28:50,463 --> 00:28:51,996
When the question's
pretty simple
639
00:28:51,998 --> 00:28:55,232
And he should know
if he was innocent.
640
00:29:02,142 --> 00:29:06,511
- Vincent was very small,
kind of demure.
641
00:29:06,513 --> 00:29:08,479
You wouldn't pick him out as,
642
00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:11,215
"oh, I think that guy could
kill two people with knives."
643
00:29:11,217 --> 00:29:14,185
He doesn't look like that.
He's not a big man.
644
00:29:14,187 --> 00:29:18,221
He's very kind of meek in
his speaking and his actions,
645
00:29:18,223 --> 00:29:21,524
So he doesn't match
the description
646
00:29:21,526 --> 00:29:24,795
You'd think of a killer who
could do this to two people.
647
00:29:24,797 --> 00:29:27,898
[dramatic tone]
648
00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:33,805
[tense music]
649
00:29:33,807 --> 00:29:33,870
♪ ♪
650
00:29:34,073 --> 00:29:41,211
[tense music]
651
00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:43,847
♪ ♪
652
00:29:43,849 --> 00:29:48,218
- I don't know.
[sobbing]
653
00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:50,220
Narrator: Even though police
in orange county
654
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:52,088
Have larry wong
and tom whitney's
655
00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:55,159
Suspected killer
vincent cheung in custody,
656
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,761
Getting a confession
out of him
657
00:29:56,763 --> 00:29:59,095
Might be easier said
than done.
658
00:29:59,097 --> 00:30:01,298
- Larry and I
went to the jail facility
659
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,300
Where vincent was being held.
660
00:30:03,302 --> 00:30:06,169
And we went there,
we mirandized him,
661
00:30:06,171 --> 00:30:07,939
And we had a conversation
with him.
662
00:30:21,787 --> 00:30:25,189
- [sobbing]
663
00:30:25,191 --> 00:30:27,457
- It was really unusual
because, at first,
664
00:30:27,459 --> 00:30:30,861
Vincent cheung began
to become very emotional,
665
00:30:30,863 --> 00:30:32,863
Almost hysterical at times.
666
00:30:32,865 --> 00:30:36,666
He was trying to say
he didn't even know
667
00:30:36,668 --> 00:30:39,302
Who tom was.
668
00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,271
As we kept on talking to him
669
00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:44,274
Over the course
of more than an hour,
670
00:30:44,276 --> 00:30:47,244
Then at that point,
he began to talk about the fact
671
00:30:47,246 --> 00:30:49,380
That he did have
a relationship with tom
672
00:30:49,382 --> 00:30:52,950
And provided a little
more detail about that.
673
00:30:52,952 --> 00:30:56,420
But never admitted
to killing tom or larry.
674
00:30:58,957 --> 00:31:01,893
[emotional music]
675
00:31:01,895 --> 00:31:09,033
♪ ♪
676
00:31:24,783 --> 00:31:27,418
- So we did ask him about the
calendar after we had found it,
677
00:31:27,420 --> 00:31:31,454
And that it said "goodbye"
on the calendar on July 27th.
678
00:31:31,456 --> 00:31:33,657
And he explained it
that he had
679
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:35,158
Planned on killing himself.
680
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,794
And so writing "goodbye"
on that date
681
00:31:37,796 --> 00:31:40,198
Was a reflection of the fact
682
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,866
That he was going
to kill himself.
683
00:31:42,868 --> 00:31:44,534
We thought at the time
that the fact
684
00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:47,137
That he said that "goodbye"
referenced to the fact
685
00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:48,538
That he was gonna try
and kill himself
686
00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:54,011
As a convenient alibi
or deflection.
687
00:31:55,647 --> 00:31:58,616
- While interviewing
vincent cheung,
688
00:31:58,618 --> 00:32:01,419
It was very interesting
because
689
00:32:01,421 --> 00:32:03,020
When you have
an innocent person
690
00:32:03,022 --> 00:32:05,022
And you're talking to them
about a topic
691
00:32:05,024 --> 00:32:06,289
And they're innocent,
692
00:32:06,291 --> 00:32:08,359
Therefore they can answer
your questions
693
00:32:08,361 --> 00:32:11,961
Without worry
because they're innocent.
694
00:32:11,963 --> 00:32:13,963
And therefore they will answer
your questions
695
00:32:13,965 --> 00:32:18,702
90% to 100% of the time fairly
accurately as much as they can.
696
00:32:18,704 --> 00:32:21,271
And it pretty much
fits like a puzzle.
697
00:32:34,019 --> 00:32:36,186
- However, if you have
a guilty person
698
00:32:36,188 --> 00:32:38,421
And you want to interview them
about this incident
699
00:32:38,423 --> 00:32:40,357
That they're guilty
of doing something,
700
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:44,361
Therefore they have to lie,
it causes stress
701
00:32:44,363 --> 00:32:46,563
Because they must lie
about certain things.
702
00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:49,899
And so what I look for
in an interview
703
00:32:49,901 --> 00:32:52,669
Is to see how up front
they are,
704
00:32:52,671 --> 00:32:54,972
How easy it is for them
to answer questions,
705
00:32:54,974 --> 00:32:58,341
And do they use techniques to
avoid answering the questions.
706
00:32:58,343 --> 00:33:01,879
And in this case, with vincent,
707
00:33:01,881 --> 00:33:05,682
That was exactly
what you could hear him
708
00:33:05,684 --> 00:33:09,619
Have all kinds of anxiety
for answering questions.
709
00:33:09,621 --> 00:33:11,922
- [sobbing]
710
00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:20,630
- We were able to elicit more
and more information
711
00:33:20,632 --> 00:33:22,899
That helped us, again,
paint a picture
712
00:33:22,901 --> 00:33:25,569
Of the situation
to learn more about him.
713
00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:28,638
And at times,
he was very matter-of-fact
714
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,107
And he talked about tom
715
00:33:31,109 --> 00:33:32,909
And the relationship
in vivid detail.
716
00:33:32,911 --> 00:33:36,446
And he talked about how much
they cared for each other,
717
00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:39,383
And he talked about how
he was showered with gifts.
718
00:33:53,399 --> 00:33:55,933
- He admitted that
he had made,
719
00:33:55,935 --> 00:33:59,570
Oh,
100 plus cards and letters,
720
00:33:59,572 --> 00:34:03,807
And he had given them
as a present to tom,
721
00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:06,943
And tom was not happy
about getting the present.
722
00:34:06,945 --> 00:34:09,179
And he was very angry
723
00:34:09,181 --> 00:34:13,683
And upset that tom didn't
accept his present.
724
00:34:13,685 --> 00:34:16,587
[tense music]
725
00:34:16,589 --> 00:34:22,993
♪ ♪
726
00:34:51,324 --> 00:34:54,258
- As we were deep
in interrogation of vincent,
727
00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:55,725
He was still talking and...
728
00:34:55,727 --> 00:34:57,894
- [sobbing]
729
00:34:57,896 --> 00:35:00,463
- I know.
I know.
730
00:35:00,465 --> 00:35:02,532
- He took responsibility
for what we would describe
731
00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:04,902
As stalking behavior,
for being obsessive,
732
00:35:04,904 --> 00:35:06,736
And not taking no
for an answer.
733
00:35:06,738 --> 00:35:07,804
[ominous music]
734
00:35:07,806 --> 00:35:10,540
- Once in custody,
we had vincent
735
00:35:10,542 --> 00:35:12,808
Take his shoes off,
put socks on.
736
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:14,744
♪ ♪
737
00:35:14,746 --> 00:35:16,280
- We brought rolls
of butcher paper.
738
00:35:16,282 --> 00:35:18,415
And we brought ink with us.
739
00:35:18,417 --> 00:35:20,484
We wet his feet to simulate,
740
00:35:20,486 --> 00:35:22,018
Like, if the socks
were wet in blood.
741
00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:24,655
We rolled his feet in ink
742
00:35:24,657 --> 00:35:29,426
And then we had him walk
along rolls of butcher paper
743
00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:32,195
And to see what kind
of footprint he left.
744
00:35:32,197 --> 00:35:33,564
- And I watched very closely,
745
00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:36,567
And I watched him
crinkle up his toes
746
00:35:36,569 --> 00:35:39,636
To make his foot smaller
as he walked.
747
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:41,904
I called him on it and told
him to straighten them out.
748
00:35:41,906 --> 00:35:44,241
He was reluctant, and it was
very interesting though,
749
00:35:44,243 --> 00:35:46,509
'cause I'm thinking to myself,
750
00:35:46,511 --> 00:35:48,712
"if he is innocent,
751
00:35:48,714 --> 00:35:52,582
"he has no idea
who killed these guys
752
00:35:52,584 --> 00:35:55,118
"and he has no idea
how big their foot is
753
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,521
"or how small their foot is.
754
00:35:57,523 --> 00:36:02,525
And therefore, why is
he crinkling up his toes?"
755
00:36:02,527 --> 00:36:04,794
So that was huge
because I watched it
756
00:36:04,796 --> 00:36:07,230
And called him on it.
757
00:36:12,371 --> 00:36:15,439
- [breathing heavily]
758
00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:23,380
- I was there to assist
the crime lab
759
00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:24,881
Doing testing on the car,
760
00:36:24,883 --> 00:36:27,150
Telling them that if this is
the right suspect
761
00:36:27,152 --> 00:36:30,420
And had this car,
that he killed people,
762
00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:32,622
Showed the scene
with the blood,
763
00:36:32,624 --> 00:36:34,657
Therefore probably had
lots of blood on him.
764
00:36:34,659 --> 00:36:36,759
And so we're looking
for any blood
765
00:36:36,761 --> 00:36:38,829
That might be found
in that car.
766
00:36:40,498 --> 00:36:44,333
- So we went over that car
with a fine-tooth comb,
767
00:36:44,335 --> 00:36:46,235
And in this case,
a combination
768
00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:49,739
Of different chemicals were
used to try to bring out areas
769
00:36:49,741 --> 00:36:52,175
Where there could be evidence
such as blood evidence
770
00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:54,110
That isn't visible
to the naked eye.
771
00:36:54,847 --> 00:36:57,081
Narrator: Investigators
montgomery and hamel
772
00:36:57,083 --> 00:37:00,450
Suspect vincent isn't telling
them the whole truth.
773
00:37:00,452 --> 00:37:02,519
And so detective
jacobson steps in
774
00:37:02,521 --> 00:37:04,455
To try to coax
a confession from him.
775
00:37:14,666 --> 00:37:16,599
- When the crime lab called
and told me
776
00:37:16,601 --> 00:37:19,303
What the results were,
my--my jaw dropped.
777
00:37:19,305 --> 00:37:20,837
- [sobbing]
778
00:37:24,042 --> 00:37:26,944
[tense music]
779
00:37:26,946 --> 00:37:27,010
♪ ♪
780
00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:34,150
[tense music]
781
00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:35,753
♪ ♪
782
00:37:35,755 --> 00:37:37,920
[dramatic music]
783
00:37:37,922 --> 00:37:40,891
Narrator: With telltale dna
results back from the lab,
784
00:37:40,893 --> 00:37:43,026
Irvine detectives
are determined
785
00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:45,962
To get vincent cheung
to finally admit he's to blame
786
00:37:45,964 --> 00:37:49,232
For the murders of tom whitney
and larry wong.
787
00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:51,168
- There's a running board
that's just--
788
00:37:51,170 --> 00:37:53,269
Runs right below
the driver's seat.
789
00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:54,570
And on that running board,
790
00:37:54,572 --> 00:37:56,773
Again, through enhancing
with chemicals,
791
00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:59,676
Crime lab was able to find
some blood droplets
792
00:37:59,678 --> 00:38:01,978
That, again, weren't visible
to the naked eye.
793
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,714
Crime lab called
and they told us that
794
00:38:03,716 --> 00:38:07,384
In that blood sample,
they were able to extract dna
795
00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:12,055
From both larry and tom
and the suspect.
796
00:38:12,657 --> 00:38:14,224
- That shows that
there's a connection
797
00:38:14,226 --> 00:38:15,592
Between the victims.
798
00:38:15,594 --> 00:38:16,993
And we know that night
there was a connection
799
00:38:16,995 --> 00:38:18,395
Between the victims.
800
00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:20,863
And whoever did it
very possibly
801
00:38:20,865 --> 00:38:24,468
Had both bloods on them
in great amounts
802
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:28,671
Because of the sheer damage
done in that house.
803
00:38:28,673 --> 00:38:31,174
- So when we found this out
that this blood sample
804
00:38:31,176 --> 00:38:34,711
Contained dna from all three,
that, in our opinion,
805
00:38:34,713 --> 00:38:37,847
Was an incredibly important
piece of evidence
806
00:38:37,849 --> 00:38:40,651
Because it's showing
that there is combined dna
807
00:38:40,653 --> 00:38:43,253
In this blood droplets on
the running board of the car
808
00:38:43,255 --> 00:38:45,855
That at this point, we believe,
was the getaway vehicle,
809
00:38:45,857 --> 00:38:47,891
So to speak,
that was used by the suspect
810
00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,859
To drive to the crime scene
and leave the crime scene.
811
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:52,895
Narrator: Before investigators
812
00:38:52,897 --> 00:38:55,165
Confront vincent cheung
once again,
813
00:38:55,167 --> 00:38:58,301
Shocking information
from one of cheung's friends
814
00:38:58,303 --> 00:39:00,638
Gives them
even more ammunition.
815
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,505
- At one point in
the investigation,
816
00:39:02,507 --> 00:39:05,141
Before vincent was formally
charged with a crime,
817
00:39:05,143 --> 00:39:08,878
We were contacted by his friend
named drew messusum.
818
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,715
And drew was a very good friend
of vincent's.
819
00:39:11,717 --> 00:39:16,686
And so drew reached out to us
after he saw on the news
820
00:39:16,688 --> 00:39:19,055
What had happened
to tom and larry.
821
00:39:19,057 --> 00:39:23,025
And drew had shared that
vincent had left a message
822
00:39:23,027 --> 00:39:25,261
On his voice recorder.
823
00:39:25,263 --> 00:39:27,831
And this message
was left on the 27th.
824
00:39:39,677 --> 00:39:41,677
- Drew was a very good friend
of vincent's.
825
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,180
And so thinking back
about drew's courage
826
00:39:44,182 --> 00:39:46,617
And what he did to bring
this information forward,
827
00:39:46,619 --> 00:39:49,586
It was something that was
a pivotal piece of evidence
828
00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:51,555
For which we were grateful
that he contacted us.
829
00:40:06,972 --> 00:40:07,971
[phone beeps]
830
00:40:11,776 --> 00:40:12,909
- Due to the fact that we
don't have a video
831
00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:15,711
Of everything that happened
at the time of the murder,
832
00:40:15,713 --> 00:40:18,716
We can make some
reasonable suggestions
833
00:40:18,718 --> 00:40:20,783
As to what might have occurred.
834
00:40:20,785 --> 00:40:23,953
- He probably had a key
to the residence still.
835
00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:26,756
He took off his shoes
to be quiet.
836
00:40:26,758 --> 00:40:29,292
He grabbed two knives
from the butcher block.
837
00:40:29,294 --> 00:40:31,094
[chilling music]
838
00:40:31,096 --> 00:40:33,931
He quietly went downstairs...
839
00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:36,666
♪ ♪
840
00:40:36,668 --> 00:40:39,135
And attacked them
while they were sleeping.
841
00:40:39,137 --> 00:40:41,604
- Both of them awake,
there was a struggle
842
00:40:41,606 --> 00:40:44,907
And the stabbing
with both knives.
843
00:40:44,909 --> 00:40:48,912
Tom is not struck
in a vital area right away,
844
00:40:48,914 --> 00:40:52,815
So he's able to live longer
and fight a little bit longer,
845
00:40:52,817 --> 00:40:55,085
While larry probably was hit
in his abdomen
846
00:40:55,087 --> 00:40:58,655
Somewhere where it took him
down faster.
847
00:40:58,657 --> 00:41:02,326
Basically, stab, stab,
stab until he's tired.
848
00:41:02,328 --> 00:41:05,228
And then he gets to go back and
put the knives away and leave.
849
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:07,263
♪ ♪
850
00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:13,102
- He was formally charged
with 187 of the penal code--
851
00:41:13,104 --> 00:41:14,737
Murder.
852
00:41:14,739 --> 00:41:17,407
[atmospheric music]
853
00:41:17,409 --> 00:41:19,443
- I got a call from
the assistant
854
00:41:19,445 --> 00:41:21,644
District attorney
of orange county.
855
00:41:21,646 --> 00:41:24,180
And they said,
"we would like you to testify,"
856
00:41:24,182 --> 00:41:28,150
Because I could help them
because of this weird
857
00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,522
Little phone call
to tom on his birthday
858
00:41:31,524 --> 00:41:35,591
That turned into
the only person
859
00:41:35,593 --> 00:41:38,528
Who could actually
tie vincent to tom.
860
00:41:38,530 --> 00:41:40,697
Not only would I be happy
to do it,
861
00:41:40,699 --> 00:41:46,036
I felt that it was the least
that I could do...
862
00:41:46,038 --> 00:41:48,004
To help tom.
863
00:41:48,006 --> 00:41:50,072
[emotional music]
864
00:41:50,074 --> 00:41:52,108
- I went down and stayed
with my sister
865
00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:54,210
And went to every day
of the trial.
866
00:41:54,212 --> 00:41:55,678
♪ ♪
867
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,948
It was a strange,
strange thing.
868
00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:02,418
Vincent didn't look
the least bit vulnerable,
869
00:42:02,420 --> 00:42:04,620
Remiss, remorseful.
870
00:42:04,622 --> 00:42:07,758
He looked like
an empty body to me.
871
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,294
He looked like he was dead.
872
00:42:11,296 --> 00:42:14,631
- After I testified,
the assistant district attorney
873
00:42:14,633 --> 00:42:16,800
Came up to me said,
"went very well."
874
00:42:16,802 --> 00:42:20,838
I said, "well, I just said
what I had to do."
875
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,706
- The prosecutor said that,
you know, it was a dna case.
876
00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:26,575
And I think it was over
a period of four days
877
00:42:26,577 --> 00:42:29,746
That the jury deliberated.
878
00:42:29,748 --> 00:42:32,715
- When I heard
the guilty verdict,
879
00:42:32,717 --> 00:42:36,118
There was a tremendous
feeling of relief.
880
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,388
And, "it's over."
881
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:41,224
[emotional music]
882
00:42:41,226 --> 00:42:42,925
♪ ♪
883
00:42:42,927 --> 00:42:47,797
- Tom was someone who did not
allow life to destroy him.
884
00:42:47,799 --> 00:42:51,200
That's, to me,
the thing that I still hold
885
00:42:51,202 --> 00:42:52,669
Was that he was a man
886
00:42:52,671 --> 00:42:56,240
Who had to go through hell
to find life.
887
00:42:56,242 --> 00:42:59,108
- Larry and tom
would have been very happy.
888
00:42:59,110 --> 00:43:02,545
And I suspect they would
have found it possible
889
00:43:02,547 --> 00:43:04,947
To get married
in the time that has--
890
00:43:04,949 --> 00:43:07,750
That has passed
from then to now.
891
00:43:07,752 --> 00:43:11,153
It's amazing
how much has passed.
892
00:43:11,155 --> 00:43:15,358
- For someone to come
and cut their lives short
893
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,827
Just seemed like
such a travesty and tragedy
894
00:43:18,829 --> 00:43:21,897
Not only for the gay community
895
00:43:21,899 --> 00:43:25,501
But for the irvine community,
irvine family,
896
00:43:25,503 --> 00:43:28,238
Was something that I think
resonated
897
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,374
For many years thereafter.
898
00:43:31,376 --> 00:43:34,177
- And, you know,
I don't even cry much now.
899
00:43:34,179 --> 00:43:36,579
I think having this kind
of an experience
900
00:43:36,581 --> 00:43:40,784
Of going through with tom
makes you stronger.
901
00:43:40,786 --> 00:43:43,587
It makes you more aware.
902
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:45,588
It makes you
appreciate things.
903
00:43:45,590 --> 00:43:50,226
♪ ♪