1 00:00:17,005 --> 00:00:22,005 Provided by explosiveskull https://twitter.com/kaboomskull 2 00:01:45,482 --> 00:01:47,440 Then we went swimming 3 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:50,041 and Zack showed us how to jump off the diving board. 4 00:01:50,083 --> 00:01:52,108 And, and, and he did a really big jump, 5 00:01:52,150 --> 00:01:53,574 like so big. 6 00:01:53,616 --> 00:01:55,740 Then he got water everywhere. 7 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:57,308 Girls, it's time for PJ's, come on. 8 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:57,782 Say goodnight to Kris. 9 00:02:00,950 --> 00:02:03,208 I'll see you tomorrow morning, you goofballs. 10 00:02:06,682 --> 00:02:07,507 One more sleep. 11 00:02:07,549 --> 00:02:08,641 Bye bye, wakka wakka. 12 00:02:08,682 --> 00:02:10,041 Love you. 13 00:02:31,383 --> 00:02:31,916 Kris? 14 00:02:33,317 --> 00:02:34,041 Is that you? 15 00:02:34,083 --> 00:02:34,582 Hey. 16 00:02:36,216 --> 00:02:36,782 Wow, you look. 17 00:02:38,516 --> 00:02:38,950 A little different. 18 00:02:40,216 --> 00:02:41,874 Yeah. 19 00:02:41,916 --> 00:02:45,507 Like, holy shit. 20 00:02:45,549 --> 00:02:47,807 It's nice to see you again. 21 00:02:47,849 --> 00:02:50,074 Thank you for agreeing to meet up. 22 00:02:50,116 --> 00:02:52,507 I know it's probably a little weird after such a long time. 23 00:02:52,549 --> 00:02:54,507 No, sure. 24 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:54,582 We, we've got a lot to talk about. 25 00:02:56,083 --> 00:02:56,183 Yes. 26 00:02:59,383 --> 00:03:01,174 I'm so glad we were able to do this. 27 00:03:01,216 --> 00:03:03,407 I want to hear all about you, about everything. 28 00:03:03,449 --> 00:03:03,983 Yeah. 29 00:03:07,183 --> 00:03:10,474 Thank you for messaging me and for, for driving from LA. 30 00:03:10,516 --> 00:03:13,174 You know, between the kids and classes, 31 00:03:13,216 --> 00:03:14,574 it's just really hard to find the time. 32 00:03:14,615 --> 00:03:15,016 Of course. 33 00:03:17,648 --> 00:03:18,615 Um, should we? 34 00:03:20,581 --> 00:03:23,108 Just this way. 35 00:03:23,150 --> 00:03:25,375 So when did this place open up? 36 00:03:25,417 --> 00:03:27,974 Um, like a few years ago. 37 00:03:28,016 --> 00:03:29,041 Can you imagine if this place was around 38 00:03:29,083 --> 00:03:31,074 back when we were at CC? 39 00:03:31,116 --> 00:03:32,150 I would have set up a tent right over there. 40 00:03:34,383 --> 00:03:35,741 Would've put out a freshman 40. 41 00:03:35,783 --> 00:03:36,715 More like a freshmen hundred. 42 00:03:39,516 --> 00:03:42,540 So you're here for a what conference? 43 00:03:42,581 --> 00:03:44,108 Network security. 44 00:03:44,150 --> 00:03:45,440 Okay. 45 00:03:45,482 --> 00:03:47,673 Basically we provide security 46 00:03:47,715 --> 00:03:50,141 for banks and such against hackers. 47 00:03:50,183 --> 00:03:52,440 The conference is pretty much a hacker con 48 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:55,074 featuring hardware mods, phone free keying. 49 00:03:55,116 --> 00:03:57,807 Sounds pretty nerdy. 50 00:03:57,849 --> 00:03:58,174 Naomi, it's good to see you again. 51 00:03:58,216 --> 00:04:00,074 Hey. 52 00:04:00,116 --> 00:04:01,341 Hi, is this your first time at Jonah's? 53 00:04:01,383 --> 00:04:02,275 First time. 54 00:04:02,317 --> 00:04:04,375 Excellent. 55 00:04:04,417 --> 00:04:04,648 Okay, so our specials are gonna be right there. 56 00:04:08,983 --> 00:04:12,874 You know, I'm actually super boring. 57 00:04:12,916 --> 00:04:14,807 Do you have a Caesar salad with grilled chicken? 58 00:04:14,849 --> 00:04:16,407 - We do. - Perfect. 59 00:04:16,449 --> 00:04:17,440 - What? - Thank you. 60 00:04:17,482 --> 00:04:18,908 I know, I know, I know. 61 00:04:18,950 --> 00:04:20,407 Sorry, I just broke her brain. 62 00:04:20,449 --> 00:04:21,807 No, you don't understand. 63 00:04:21,849 --> 00:04:24,841 In college, this person used to only eat 64 00:04:24,883 --> 00:04:26,816 like mac and cheese and burgers and pizza. 65 00:04:28,283 --> 00:04:29,141 Uh, the usual? 66 00:04:29,183 --> 00:04:30,341 Yes, please. 67 00:04:30,383 --> 00:04:32,641 Can I also get a wine? 68 00:04:32,683 --> 00:04:33,506 The same one I had the last time. 69 00:04:33,548 --> 00:04:34,506 Yeah. 70 00:04:34,548 --> 00:04:36,539 You know what? 71 00:04:36,581 --> 00:04:38,407 I'll have the same and some water too, please. 72 00:04:38,449 --> 00:04:39,474 I'll get those orders in right away. 73 00:04:39,515 --> 00:04:41,141 - Thank you. - Thank you. 74 00:04:41,183 --> 00:04:42,074 What the fuck? 75 00:04:42,116 --> 00:04:43,375 - What? - What the fuck? 76 00:04:43,417 --> 00:04:44,407 What? 77 00:04:44,449 --> 00:04:46,539 Vegetables? 78 00:04:46,581 --> 00:04:48,974 Like green things that come out of the ground. 79 00:04:49,016 --> 00:04:52,141 I started eating healthier about 10 years ago. 80 00:04:52,183 --> 00:04:53,150 Which how do you think I got this figure? 81 00:04:54,816 --> 00:04:55,683 I just can't believe. 82 00:04:59,050 --> 00:05:00,941 You should've seen my parents' faces 83 00:05:00,983 --> 00:05:03,141 the first time I had vegetables in front of them. 84 00:05:03,183 --> 00:05:04,208 Oh my God. 85 00:05:04,250 --> 00:05:05,440 They didn't die from shock? 86 00:05:05,481 --> 00:05:06,816 No, they're still here. 87 00:05:07,983 --> 00:05:08,716 Thank you. 88 00:05:11,283 --> 00:05:12,449 Guess you're a testament to how much people can change. 89 00:05:14,816 --> 00:05:16,108 Sometimes I get so used to being me 90 00:05:16,150 --> 00:05:16,849 it doesn't feel that way. 91 00:05:20,481 --> 00:05:22,607 All right, time to eat. 92 00:05:22,649 --> 00:05:24,174 I want my game back. 93 00:05:24,216 --> 00:05:26,174 I know you do. 94 00:05:26,216 --> 00:05:27,573 - But this is gonna go up here. - Mom. 95 00:05:27,615 --> 00:05:28,741 I hate that. 96 00:05:28,783 --> 00:05:30,908 What? 97 00:05:30,950 --> 00:05:33,841 Like God forbid, we let our kids just be bored, right? 98 00:05:33,883 --> 00:05:35,473 More of a free range parent myself. 99 00:05:35,515 --> 00:05:37,439 Free range, like chickens? 100 00:05:37,481 --> 00:05:39,308 Yes. 101 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:41,841 Kids should be allowed to roam freely in a field, 102 00:05:41,883 --> 00:05:44,674 living life, not becoming zombies. 103 00:05:44,716 --> 00:05:49,108 Well, I believe it's all about moderation. 104 00:05:49,150 --> 00:05:51,506 Technology isn't inherently, well it's how people use it. 105 00:05:51,548 --> 00:05:52,216 It's fucking ridiculous. 106 00:05:57,417 --> 00:05:58,741 What? 107 00:05:58,783 --> 00:06:00,308 You haven't changed a bit. 108 00:06:00,350 --> 00:06:00,749 Oh my God. 109 00:06:02,350 --> 00:06:04,574 Mm-hm. 110 00:06:04,616 --> 00:06:06,016 By the way, your children are so adorable. 111 00:06:07,515 --> 00:06:10,041 Oh? 112 00:06:10,083 --> 00:06:12,341 They remind me of my cousin's kids, Ava and Willem. 113 00:06:12,383 --> 00:06:14,574 I'm actually staying with them while I'm in LA. 114 00:06:14,616 --> 00:06:16,008 Your kids are? 115 00:06:16,050 --> 00:06:18,241 Ethan and Dylan. 116 00:06:18,283 --> 00:06:21,108 Five and three and they're absolute handfuls. 117 00:06:21,150 --> 00:06:22,674 From the moment he wakes up until he goes to sleep, 118 00:06:22,716 --> 00:06:25,841 Dylan will not stop talking. 119 00:06:25,883 --> 00:06:28,506 Ethan's like a real boys, boy, you know? 120 00:06:28,548 --> 00:06:31,874 He likes superheroes and aliens 121 00:06:31,916 --> 00:06:33,941 and blasting things with his laser photons. 122 00:06:33,983 --> 00:06:34,816 Sounds pretty awesome to me. 123 00:06:36,083 --> 00:06:37,308 I don't know. 124 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:38,674 I mean, honestly, 125 00:06:38,716 --> 00:06:39,506 this is the first adult conversation 126 00:06:39,548 --> 00:06:39,883 I've been having in months. 127 00:06:41,883 --> 00:06:44,208 I mean, besides Jim, of course. 128 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:45,174 Jim, your husband. 129 00:06:45,216 --> 00:06:46,574 Yes. 130 00:06:46,616 --> 00:06:47,116 He's barely an adult. 131 00:06:49,849 --> 00:06:52,041 I just miss freedom, you know? 132 00:06:52,083 --> 00:06:55,116 Before all of this and before, you know back when... 133 00:07:02,783 --> 00:07:03,116 So, 134 00:07:05,716 --> 00:07:07,183 I haven't seen you since... 135 00:07:11,183 --> 00:07:11,549 Yeah. 136 00:07:17,883 --> 00:07:18,549 Did you know when we were together? 137 00:07:21,083 --> 00:07:22,916 It's not that simple. 138 00:07:24,616 --> 00:07:26,841 I mean, I knew, 139 00:07:26,883 --> 00:07:29,582 but I hadn't allowed myself to accept who I was. 140 00:07:36,382 --> 00:07:38,841 The need to transition was like this awful noise. 141 00:07:38,883 --> 00:07:41,950 This endless ringing in my head. 142 00:07:45,283 --> 00:07:48,008 You saw it a few times. 143 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:49,216 That faraway look. 144 00:07:52,083 --> 00:07:52,216 Yeah, I remember. 145 00:07:55,083 --> 00:07:58,607 Back then I thought being trans was like a disease 146 00:07:58,649 --> 00:08:02,275 that could be fought and maybe even defeated. 147 00:08:02,316 --> 00:08:05,983 I thought fighting it would make me stronger, better. 148 00:08:10,349 --> 00:08:12,474 After I left, I was determined 149 00:08:12,516 --> 00:08:14,674 I was gonna figure things out for myself. 150 00:08:14,716 --> 00:08:18,216 But instead I drank, even more than before. 151 00:08:20,916 --> 00:08:23,908 I'd stumble home to my apartment, 152 00:08:23,950 --> 00:08:25,974 throw up all over the floor 153 00:08:26,016 --> 00:08:29,307 and then spend the next morning still wasted, 154 00:08:29,349 --> 00:08:29,983 cleaning up the mess. 155 00:08:32,683 --> 00:08:33,649 I didn't shower for days. 156 00:08:37,316 --> 00:08:39,849 There were weeks when I didn't speak to another human being. 157 00:08:44,349 --> 00:08:44,683 Jesus. 158 00:08:47,516 --> 00:08:48,707 Kris, I had no idea. 159 00:08:48,749 --> 00:08:50,574 I mean, I knew things were hard. 160 00:08:50,616 --> 00:08:51,807 I knew it, but- 161 00:08:51,849 --> 00:08:52,582 - I had to learn the hard way. 162 00:08:54,449 --> 00:08:55,674 I'm just one of those people 163 00:08:55,716 --> 00:08:57,150 who has to hit rock bottom before I change. 164 00:08:59,649 --> 00:09:00,482 But thank God I did though, you know? 165 00:09:04,482 --> 00:09:05,540 Thank you, Matt. 166 00:09:05,582 --> 00:09:06,540 Absolutely. 167 00:09:06,582 --> 00:09:07,274 Anything else ladies? 168 00:09:07,316 --> 00:09:07,683 Nope. 169 00:09:12,249 --> 00:09:12,950 I can't get over you. 170 00:09:15,549 --> 00:09:17,540 I mean if people didn't know, they'd never know. 171 00:09:17,582 --> 00:09:18,440 It's a silly thing. 172 00:09:18,482 --> 00:09:20,141 I wish it wasn't a thing at all, 173 00:09:20,183 --> 00:09:21,582 but we live in the world we do. 174 00:09:23,683 --> 00:09:27,041 But yes, I'm very lucky I'm able to pass. 175 00:09:27,083 --> 00:09:27,616 Yeah. 176 00:09:30,383 --> 00:09:31,741 How does that work exactly? 177 00:09:31,783 --> 00:09:35,607 Like, are you safe in Phoenix? 178 00:09:35,649 --> 00:09:37,116 I mean, that's like an all America. 179 00:09:39,816 --> 00:09:41,607 Most people out there don't even know I'm trans. 180 00:09:41,649 --> 00:09:42,183 Nobody knows? 181 00:09:44,716 --> 00:09:45,616 Just a few close friends. 182 00:09:48,816 --> 00:09:51,974 Few people can really make a difference. 183 00:09:52,016 --> 00:09:54,874 That's part of the reason I wanted to see you tonight. 184 00:09:54,916 --> 00:09:56,116 When I think about how far I've come, I mean, 185 00:09:58,282 --> 00:10:00,474 I would never made it this far 186 00:10:00,516 --> 00:10:02,716 without friends like you along the way. 187 00:10:05,383 --> 00:10:08,916 Back in college you were so open and accepting of everyone. 188 00:10:11,116 --> 00:10:11,182 I still remember you chewing out Liam. 189 00:10:12,950 --> 00:10:13,482 Oh my God. 190 00:10:14,816 --> 00:10:16,574 Liam. 191 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:18,807 For saying some stupid transphobic shit. 192 00:10:18,849 --> 00:10:20,774 You two almost got into a fight. 193 00:10:20,816 --> 00:10:22,841 In case you don't remember, 194 00:10:22,883 --> 00:10:24,841 I had to hold you back because you kept screaming 195 00:10:24,883 --> 00:10:26,474 that you were gonna remove his manhood. 196 00:10:26,516 --> 00:10:28,774 My God, yeah, I said that. 197 00:10:28,816 --> 00:10:30,950 You screamed that at The Basement, sophomore year. 198 00:10:33,282 --> 00:10:34,083 I'd never been around someone like that before. 199 00:10:35,549 --> 00:10:37,083 Moments like that gave me hope. 200 00:10:39,417 --> 00:10:41,083 You always gave me hope, Nae. 201 00:10:48,916 --> 00:10:50,050 Now it all seems like a bad dream. 202 00:11:04,582 --> 00:11:05,149 You should have told me what was going on. 203 00:11:09,417 --> 00:11:10,983 I know it would have been hard, but I would have understood. 204 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:12,582 Naomi. 205 00:11:14,816 --> 00:11:16,674 I know I owed you an explanation, but- 206 00:11:16,716 --> 00:11:19,107 - You left without any explanation. 207 00:11:19,149 --> 00:11:21,716 You didn't leave a note, no phone call, nothing. 208 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:24,507 You know what? 209 00:11:24,549 --> 00:11:24,983 It was fucking devastating. 210 00:11:28,182 --> 00:11:28,582 I know. 211 00:11:32,683 --> 00:11:33,182 I'm really sorry. 212 00:11:35,749 --> 00:11:37,641 - Truly- - Look, 213 00:11:37,683 --> 00:11:38,016 I get that things have been off between us. 214 00:11:39,916 --> 00:11:40,616 We were together for three years. 215 00:11:42,950 --> 00:11:44,874 I know you were going through something hard, 216 00:11:44,916 --> 00:11:46,215 but I had no idea what was going on or why you left. 217 00:11:48,716 --> 00:11:49,016 It really hurt me. 218 00:11:53,716 --> 00:11:55,082 Do you know how I found out about your transition? 219 00:11:57,215 --> 00:11:57,616 Through Rachel. 220 00:12:00,549 --> 00:12:01,050 Rachel. 221 00:12:03,250 --> 00:12:03,749 I deserved to know. 222 00:12:14,350 --> 00:12:15,049 You're right. 223 00:12:18,482 --> 00:12:18,783 About everything. 224 00:12:21,449 --> 00:12:21,849 I was leading you on. 225 00:12:24,317 --> 00:12:27,482 And so I'm very, very, sorry. 226 00:12:30,916 --> 00:12:32,807 I always knew deep inside 227 00:12:32,849 --> 00:12:34,716 that I had to become who I truly was, 228 00:12:38,749 --> 00:12:40,616 but there were times when I looked at you 229 00:12:42,783 --> 00:12:44,516 and I felt like if we stay together, 230 00:12:46,916 --> 00:12:49,649 or maybe if we had kids, family, 231 00:12:52,417 --> 00:12:54,115 that maybe that would be enough for me not to transition. 232 00:12:56,183 --> 00:12:57,841 After a while though, 233 00:12:57,883 --> 00:12:58,816 I realized that I was just staying for myself, 234 00:13:02,216 --> 00:13:03,082 instead of thinking about what was right. 235 00:13:05,449 --> 00:13:09,607 I'm sorry it took me so long. 236 00:13:09,649 --> 00:13:12,774 I should have reached out way before this. 237 00:13:12,816 --> 00:13:16,482 To be honest, I was very ashamed of how everything happened. 238 00:13:18,883 --> 00:13:22,073 But I want to put all of that behind us, 239 00:13:22,115 --> 00:13:24,150 and I realize I have no right to ask you for anything. 240 00:13:29,082 --> 00:13:32,516 But I hope that you can forgive me. 241 00:13:41,082 --> 00:13:41,849 Um, I just, um, 242 00:13:46,549 --> 00:13:47,549 I just wish things hadn't ended that way. 243 00:14:26,883 --> 00:14:29,208 Naomi. 244 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:31,074 I really appreciate you driving all the way out here. 245 00:14:31,116 --> 00:14:32,574 I should get going. 246 00:14:32,616 --> 00:14:33,741 I have office hours in the morning. 247 00:14:33,783 --> 00:14:34,549 Let's go for a drink or something. 248 00:14:37,516 --> 00:14:38,741 I don't know if that's such a good idea. 249 00:14:38,783 --> 00:14:41,108 I don't want tonight to end like this. 250 00:14:41,150 --> 00:14:44,007 I want to hear more about your life, your art. 251 00:14:44,049 --> 00:14:44,582 Please. 252 00:14:47,283 --> 00:14:48,874 Drinks, huh? 253 00:14:48,915 --> 00:14:48,949 Maybe two. 254 00:14:52,383 --> 00:14:54,341 We can go to Congregation. 255 00:14:54,383 --> 00:14:55,774 That's great, let's go. 256 00:14:55,816 --> 00:14:57,741 Just point me in the right direction. 257 00:14:57,783 --> 00:14:58,982 Just a couple blocks that way. 258 00:15:05,449 --> 00:15:08,507 So I did a bit of online stalking. 259 00:15:08,549 --> 00:15:09,449 Yeah. 260 00:15:11,050 --> 00:15:14,574 The dart exhibit, 261 00:15:14,616 --> 00:15:16,749 where you put them inside your and then, pew! 262 00:15:19,417 --> 00:15:20,440 You saw the video. 263 00:15:20,482 --> 00:15:22,341 It was very impressive. 264 00:15:22,383 --> 00:15:26,540 - Do you mind? - No. 265 00:15:26,582 --> 00:15:30,774 Did you make the balloon penises. 266 00:15:30,816 --> 00:15:32,216 No, but that's a good story. 267 00:15:34,482 --> 00:15:35,649 I'm concerned, also very fascinated. 268 00:15:38,882 --> 00:15:41,474 I was at a birthday party for one of Ethan's friends, 269 00:15:41,516 --> 00:15:44,407 he's my oldest, 270 00:15:44,449 --> 00:15:46,649 and there was this balloon artist there by the name of Juan, 271 00:15:49,283 --> 00:15:52,649 and I already knew I was gonna be doing the dart exhibit, 272 00:15:55,150 --> 00:15:58,375 so I just casually walk up to Juan and I was like, 273 00:15:58,417 --> 00:16:01,241 "Excuse me, Juan." 274 00:16:01,283 --> 00:16:03,507 "Have you ever dabbled in balloon genitalia before?" 275 00:16:03,549 --> 00:16:05,141 You didn't. 276 00:16:05,183 --> 00:16:06,440 Of course I did. 277 00:16:06,482 --> 00:16:08,607 At a child's birthday party? 278 00:16:08,649 --> 00:16:09,941 Well, I didn't do it in front of the children. 279 00:16:09,983 --> 00:16:12,974 Jesus, I'm not a complete degenerate. 280 00:16:13,016 --> 00:16:14,607 Thank God. 281 00:16:14,649 --> 00:16:16,941 Anyway, I'd never seen 282 00:16:16,983 --> 00:16:19,507 such perfectly rendered balls and penises before, 283 00:16:19,549 --> 00:16:20,649 especially in balloon form. 284 00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:25,407 And I was getting a lot of satisfaction 285 00:16:25,449 --> 00:16:27,741 shooting those darts out of my vagina 286 00:16:27,783 --> 00:16:28,983 and watching those balloon penises pop. 287 00:16:30,582 --> 00:16:33,641 Jesus, you're a menace. 288 00:16:33,683 --> 00:16:36,174 You know, that wasn't even my craziest performance. 289 00:16:36,216 --> 00:16:37,549 No, I do not believe you. 290 00:16:39,383 --> 00:16:39,915 Give me one of those. 291 00:16:46,050 --> 00:16:46,482 Thank you. 292 00:16:51,882 --> 00:16:52,582 Mm-hm. 293 00:16:54,882 --> 00:16:59,008 Okay, so when I first started my professorship at CC, 294 00:16:59,050 --> 00:17:03,241 I did this performance in front of the full length mirror 295 00:17:03,283 --> 00:17:07,308 where I was putting on my makeup while completely naked. 296 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:08,474 Why naked? 297 00:17:08,516 --> 00:17:09,407 I'm getting to that? 298 00:17:09,449 --> 00:17:11,641 Okay. 299 00:17:11,683 --> 00:17:13,574 So I sit down in front of the mirror 300 00:17:13,616 --> 00:17:15,707 and I start to lay out all of my makeup. 301 00:17:15,748 --> 00:17:18,407 You know, like the mascara, the blush, 302 00:17:18,449 --> 00:17:22,141 and I started to put on the makeup very, very precisely. 303 00:17:22,183 --> 00:17:23,474 And? 304 00:17:23,516 --> 00:17:24,482 And then I, 305 00:17:26,582 --> 00:17:29,482 took my leg and I lift it on up. 306 00:17:31,216 --> 00:17:34,375 I took the tools and I start to masturbate. 307 00:17:36,649 --> 00:17:38,108 Admit, it took me a while, 'cause you know, 308 00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:40,174 I'm not used to doing this in front of an audience, 309 00:17:40,216 --> 00:17:43,474 and let's just say that vibration is key. 310 00:17:43,516 --> 00:17:43,983 Good to know. 311 00:17:46,083 --> 00:17:48,806 And you know, I'm like getting into a rhythm, 312 00:17:48,848 --> 00:17:51,041 I think I have it completely locked in, 313 00:17:51,083 --> 00:17:53,941 and then I noticed there's this freshmen in the front row 314 00:17:53,983 --> 00:17:58,706 just staring at me in horror or awe, or possibly both. 315 00:17:58,748 --> 00:18:00,507 Must have been a very educational experience for him. 316 00:18:00,549 --> 00:18:02,706 Well the entire time 317 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:05,275 I'm like trying to concentrate on my performance, 318 00:18:05,317 --> 00:18:06,507 but I keep thinking like, 319 00:18:06,549 --> 00:18:08,908 "Am I totally fucking up this kid?" 320 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:11,607 Like, is he gonna look at masturbation tools 321 00:18:11,649 --> 00:18:13,549 and makeup and just equate them? 322 00:18:15,150 --> 00:18:17,041 I don't know. 323 00:18:17,083 --> 00:18:19,275 Maybe it's a good commentary on the intersection of sex 324 00:18:19,317 --> 00:18:23,807 and how we use it to sell products and people. 325 00:18:23,849 --> 00:18:26,074 You finished the performance? 326 00:18:26,116 --> 00:18:27,540 Obviously. 327 00:18:27,582 --> 00:18:28,673 I'm a professional. 328 00:18:30,616 --> 00:18:33,815 Your art is so bold and unafraid. 329 00:18:35,216 --> 00:18:35,616 Thank you. 330 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:38,941 And meaningful. 331 00:18:38,983 --> 00:18:39,815 So when was your last performance? 332 00:18:42,283 --> 00:18:43,682 Um, it's been a while. 333 00:18:49,317 --> 00:18:50,748 Actually that performance was my last performance. 334 00:18:56,317 --> 00:18:56,849 Wait. 335 00:19:04,748 --> 00:19:07,682 Are you saying you quit performing altogether? 336 00:19:09,150 --> 00:19:09,648 Yup. 337 00:19:12,549 --> 00:19:13,050 But why? 338 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:18,008 I mean, Naomi, I can't believe you just quit. 339 00:19:18,050 --> 00:19:19,941 Well my performances, 340 00:19:19,983 --> 00:19:21,740 they always took a huge emotional toll on me. 341 00:19:21,782 --> 00:19:23,807 I get that, but- 342 00:19:23,849 --> 00:19:25,673 - And between the kids and you know, 343 00:19:25,715 --> 00:19:26,950 all the extra classes I had to take, it just, 344 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:29,050 I didn't have the energy. 345 00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:33,375 You know, 346 00:19:33,417 --> 00:19:36,741 I did have an interesting idea for a performance piece, 347 00:19:36,783 --> 00:19:40,208 but then I got pregnant, so I ended up shelving it. 348 00:19:40,250 --> 00:19:41,682 It's just in my office now, gathering dust. 349 00:19:45,016 --> 00:19:45,183 Well, 350 00:19:49,916 --> 00:19:53,375 then tell me more about your life before family 351 00:19:53,417 --> 00:19:54,083 and the kids and all that. 352 00:19:56,549 --> 00:20:00,008 I didn't expect to find you're teaching at CC. 353 00:20:00,050 --> 00:20:02,707 Well, I did not expect myself to end up here either. 354 00:20:02,749 --> 00:20:04,341 I always thought I'd end up 355 00:20:04,383 --> 00:20:07,174 someplace like New York or Paris. 356 00:20:07,216 --> 00:20:07,682 Hell, even LA. 357 00:20:10,216 --> 00:20:14,573 And yeah, I did get into some of those MFA programs, 358 00:20:14,615 --> 00:20:18,008 like some in Boston and in Chicago. 359 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:20,341 I remember you talking about those programs 360 00:20:20,383 --> 00:20:23,174 and you got in, that's fantastic. 361 00:20:23,216 --> 00:20:26,150 Yeah, after everything that happened, you know, 362 00:20:28,783 --> 00:20:29,715 I just wasn't ready to make like a big move. 363 00:20:31,749 --> 00:20:33,008 Art wasn't really making me any money, 364 00:20:33,050 --> 00:20:34,507 so I had to move back in with my parents, 365 00:20:34,548 --> 00:20:35,849 which was really, really hard. 366 00:20:38,383 --> 00:20:40,407 And my dad and I, we were fighting all the time, 367 00:20:40,449 --> 00:20:42,074 so we stopped talking. 368 00:20:42,116 --> 00:20:43,874 I got my master's at CC 369 00:20:43,916 --> 00:20:47,241 and then my dad had the heart attack. 370 00:20:47,283 --> 00:20:48,749 I was at the farmer's market when I got the call. 371 00:20:50,849 --> 00:20:52,640 There was so much to do after the funeral. 372 00:20:52,682 --> 00:20:53,083 I can't even imagine. 373 00:20:56,250 --> 00:20:57,749 That must have been so much for you to deal with. 374 00:20:59,417 --> 00:20:59,783 Yeah, it was. 375 00:21:01,417 --> 00:21:03,573 Anyway, around that time 376 00:21:03,615 --> 00:21:07,908 a adjunct professorship opened up at CC 377 00:21:07,950 --> 00:21:11,208 and I just really needed something consistent in my life, 378 00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:13,308 so I said yes. 379 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:16,008 And then I met Jim, 380 00:21:16,050 --> 00:21:18,150 who really was excited about having a family. 381 00:21:20,383 --> 00:21:22,849 So five years later I got pregnant. 382 00:21:25,916 --> 00:21:27,216 I thought about not keeping the baby, but um. 383 00:21:30,083 --> 00:21:30,916 I, I couldn't do that. 384 00:21:32,581 --> 00:21:32,983 Of course not. 385 00:21:34,481 --> 00:21:35,216 Kids are precious. 386 00:21:39,050 --> 00:21:42,506 Jim was really, really excited about becoming a dad. 387 00:21:42,548 --> 00:21:46,974 So then after awhile, smog wasn't so bad 388 00:21:47,016 --> 00:21:49,916 and summers were more tolerable, and so were the people. 389 00:21:53,283 --> 00:21:55,974 But you know, Jim's parents, they, they live in the area, 390 00:21:56,016 --> 00:21:58,008 so it's been a godsend with the kids 391 00:21:58,050 --> 00:22:01,849 and I couldn't have done any of this without them, 392 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:03,716 especially since my mom moved. 393 00:22:08,016 --> 00:22:10,041 You've been through a lot, Nae. 394 00:22:10,083 --> 00:22:10,448 Yeah. 395 00:22:12,883 --> 00:22:16,974 Still, world's a less interesting place 396 00:22:17,016 --> 00:22:19,506 when you're not exposing it to weirdness. 397 00:22:22,216 --> 00:22:24,116 Uh, the world's a weird and crazy place even without me. 398 00:22:27,016 --> 00:22:29,074 Who wants to go see a performance artist anyway? 399 00:22:29,116 --> 00:22:32,041 I mean, people barely go to museums anymore. 400 00:22:32,083 --> 00:22:34,941 Hey, I've been to the Phoenix Art Museum. 401 00:22:34,983 --> 00:22:37,275 Oh, ooh la la. 402 00:22:37,317 --> 00:22:40,008 They have some very nice desert landscapes. 403 00:22:40,050 --> 00:22:42,341 Okay, see, 404 00:22:42,383 --> 00:22:44,375 this is exactly why people don't go to the museum anymore. 405 00:22:44,416 --> 00:22:47,308 Art should be challenging and it should be exciting. 406 00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:47,481 Do you miss it? 407 00:22:48,916 --> 00:22:49,874 Sometimes. 408 00:22:49,916 --> 00:22:51,473 Sometimes I wonder if my art 409 00:22:51,515 --> 00:22:53,540 was the only thing keeping me sane. 410 00:22:53,582 --> 00:22:54,216 You should perform, Naomi. 411 00:22:56,649 --> 00:22:58,083 Don't deny yourself something that you need. 412 00:23:01,183 --> 00:23:02,783 If you need to do it, then it will be worth the sacrifice. 413 00:23:05,515 --> 00:23:06,883 There's only one of you, you know? 414 00:23:10,317 --> 00:23:10,950 Take it from me. 415 00:23:29,382 --> 00:23:31,473 So, have you been with anyone since transitioning? 416 00:23:31,515 --> 00:23:34,473 Like, are you still into women, or? 417 00:23:34,515 --> 00:23:37,041 Men, definitely men. 418 00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:39,108 Any hot dates? 419 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:42,141 Some stories that'll spice up a married woman's love life? 420 00:23:42,183 --> 00:23:43,674 Come on. 421 00:23:43,716 --> 00:23:45,941 I, I haven't had any real sex. 422 00:23:45,983 --> 00:23:47,607 I haven't watched porn in months. 423 00:23:47,649 --> 00:23:50,374 Well, actually, 424 00:23:50,416 --> 00:23:52,674 I just got out of a relationship a few weeks ago. 425 00:23:52,716 --> 00:23:53,406 Oh, really? 426 00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:54,574 Go on. 427 00:23:54,616 --> 00:23:55,050 We met online. 428 00:23:56,683 --> 00:23:58,308 Like, like an app. 429 00:23:58,349 --> 00:23:59,474 - A video game. - Oh. 430 00:23:59,516 --> 00:24:00,974 - We both played this- - Oh no. 431 00:24:01,016 --> 00:24:02,741 No, no, no. 432 00:24:02,783 --> 00:24:03,741 Not one of those terrible life sucks 433 00:24:03,783 --> 00:24:04,641 that you used to play in college. 434 00:24:04,683 --> 00:24:06,074 They're not that terrible. 435 00:24:06,116 --> 00:24:08,074 They're terrible. 436 00:24:08,116 --> 00:24:12,008 Anyway, we met through this game and we started chatting. 437 00:24:12,050 --> 00:24:13,741 Hm. 438 00:24:13,783 --> 00:24:17,241 And we got to chatting more and more and more, 439 00:24:17,283 --> 00:24:20,108 and we both lived in Arizona so we decided to meet up. 440 00:24:20,150 --> 00:24:22,941 Like a modern day digital romance. 441 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:25,841 Before we met, I told him I was trans. 442 00:24:25,883 --> 00:24:27,540 I figured it would be easier to tell him online 443 00:24:27,582 --> 00:24:28,674 than in person in case, you know. 444 00:24:28,716 --> 00:24:30,607 Yeah, sure. 445 00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:32,241 He was actually totally cool about it. 446 00:24:32,283 --> 00:24:33,340 So we set up a time to meet. 447 00:24:33,382 --> 00:24:34,874 How'd it go? 448 00:24:34,916 --> 00:24:37,108 It was great for a while. 449 00:24:37,150 --> 00:24:39,540 We were together for about a year and a half. 450 00:24:39,582 --> 00:24:41,540 God, that's a really long time. 451 00:24:41,582 --> 00:24:43,607 So what happened? 452 00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:46,108 I think we both realized 453 00:24:46,150 --> 00:24:48,307 we had different priorities and goals in life, 454 00:24:48,349 --> 00:24:51,540 so we decided to end things about a month ago. 455 00:24:51,582 --> 00:24:53,440 Hm, I'm sorry. 456 00:24:53,482 --> 00:24:54,607 That's rough. 457 00:24:54,649 --> 00:24:56,275 Just wasn't meant to be. 458 00:24:56,316 --> 00:24:58,707 Well, fuck him then. 459 00:24:58,749 --> 00:24:59,507 What about before him? 460 00:24:59,549 --> 00:25:01,908 What about after? 461 00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:05,516 Actually, he was the first person I've been with since... 462 00:25:08,749 --> 00:25:10,874 Wait, wait, wait, wait, what, what? 463 00:25:10,916 --> 00:25:12,141 - No, no, no, no, no. - Mm-hm, mm-hm. 464 00:25:12,183 --> 00:25:14,041 Oh my God. 465 00:25:14,083 --> 00:25:17,474 Oh my God, that's like, like 13 years? 466 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:19,307 Kris! 467 00:25:19,349 --> 00:25:21,540 Oh no. 468 00:25:21,582 --> 00:25:23,474 Oh, my vagina just shriveled up a little bit. 469 00:25:26,349 --> 00:25:28,574 Hey, it's not like I could just waltz out of my apartment, 470 00:25:28,616 --> 00:25:30,074 "I represent woman," 471 00:25:30,116 --> 00:25:32,574 the day after I decided to transition. 472 00:25:32,616 --> 00:25:34,540 This all took a lot of work, believe me. 473 00:25:34,582 --> 00:25:36,240 I believe you. 474 00:25:36,282 --> 00:25:37,807 You've had your whole life 475 00:25:37,849 --> 00:25:39,074 to figure out how to be a woman in society. 476 00:25:39,116 --> 00:25:40,607 I had like a year. 477 00:25:40,649 --> 00:25:41,116 Okay, fair. 478 00:25:44,016 --> 00:25:46,340 What'd you learn? 479 00:25:46,382 --> 00:25:48,908 How being a woman sucks in almost every aspect of society 480 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:50,108 for all of time. 481 00:25:52,083 --> 00:25:55,041 No, it's been a really wonderful journey. 482 00:25:55,083 --> 00:25:58,974 I started watching makeup tutorials online. 483 00:25:59,016 --> 00:26:01,240 I went through a too much blush phase. 484 00:26:01,282 --> 00:26:03,774 A too much foundation phase 485 00:26:03,816 --> 00:26:06,208 where my head looked detached from the rest of my body. 486 00:26:06,249 --> 00:26:08,240 I had to figure out new shoe and dress sizes, 487 00:26:08,282 --> 00:26:09,908 which by the way, 488 00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:11,207 aren't even consistent in the same God damn store. 489 00:26:11,249 --> 00:26:12,174 I know, it's so annoying. 490 00:26:12,215 --> 00:26:15,041 Hair products, how to flirt. 491 00:26:15,083 --> 00:26:17,008 Oh Kris. 492 00:26:17,050 --> 00:26:18,841 I'm sorry, you never knew how to flirt. 493 00:26:18,883 --> 00:26:22,507 Sure, but the first few times men tried to flirt with me, 494 00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:24,375 I didn't even know they were flirting. 495 00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:26,841 I thought they were trying to pick a fight or something. 496 00:26:26,883 --> 00:26:29,707 They would get right in my face, looming over me. 497 00:26:29,749 --> 00:26:33,274 Not an easy feat, by the way. 498 00:26:33,316 --> 00:26:38,008 And I would just make a tactical retreat and then run away. 499 00:26:38,050 --> 00:26:40,683 And then somewhere along the line, you got. 500 00:26:42,983 --> 00:26:45,074 Gender affirmation surgery. 501 00:26:45,116 --> 00:26:45,749 - Mm-hm. - Yes. 502 00:26:47,282 --> 00:26:48,974 10 years ago. 503 00:26:49,016 --> 00:26:51,207 Was that hard? 504 00:26:51,249 --> 00:26:51,707 More physical pain than I never gone through 505 00:26:51,749 --> 00:26:54,240 in my entire life. 506 00:26:54,282 --> 00:26:57,607 But still easily the best decision I'd ever made. 507 00:26:57,649 --> 00:26:58,974 And once I started feeling better, 508 00:26:59,016 --> 00:27:01,674 I went on to all the dating apps. 509 00:27:01,716 --> 00:27:03,941 God, what was that like? 510 00:27:03,983 --> 00:27:05,774 I got some really weird messages. 511 00:27:05,816 --> 00:27:07,607 What kind of messages? 512 00:27:07,649 --> 00:27:09,707 They started out with great potential 513 00:27:09,749 --> 00:27:13,041 and ended up spending paragraphs 514 00:27:13,083 --> 00:27:16,008 monologuing their insecurities with my phantom penis. 515 00:27:16,050 --> 00:27:17,974 Well, of course. 516 00:27:18,016 --> 00:27:18,908 What else would they possibly want to talk about? 517 00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:20,707 They would start a message with, 518 00:27:20,749 --> 00:27:23,407 "Hey, you seem really great." 519 00:27:23,449 --> 00:27:25,074 "I'd love to grab a coffee." 520 00:27:25,116 --> 00:27:28,041 And then out of nowhere, it's all, 521 00:27:28,083 --> 00:27:29,874 "Listen, I've never been someone" 522 00:27:29,916 --> 00:27:32,807 "who used to have a penis before" 523 00:27:32,849 --> 00:27:35,741 "and it's like kind of a big deal, you know?" 524 00:27:35,783 --> 00:27:38,440 "Does it mean I'm secretly attracted to men?" 525 00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:40,407 "Am I gay?" 526 00:27:40,449 --> 00:27:43,207 So I disabled all the accounts. 527 00:27:43,249 --> 00:27:44,874 It's for the best. 528 00:27:44,916 --> 00:27:46,641 If it's meant to be, it'll happen. 529 00:27:46,683 --> 00:27:49,041 See those things, 530 00:27:49,083 --> 00:27:50,741 they just turn people into objects that you rate and assess. 531 00:27:50,783 --> 00:27:53,140 It's like Yelp, but for people. 532 00:27:53,182 --> 00:27:55,375 Did you ever do online dating? 533 00:27:55,417 --> 00:27:56,275 No. 534 00:27:56,317 --> 00:27:58,607 Oh, thank God, no. 535 00:27:58,649 --> 00:28:01,908 No, that was not a thing when Jim and I got together. 536 00:28:01,950 --> 00:28:04,375 Besides, I don't think you could condense my essence 537 00:28:04,417 --> 00:28:06,008 into a dating profile. 538 00:28:06,050 --> 00:28:07,874 No, probably not. 539 00:28:07,916 --> 00:28:09,674 You know what it's like? 540 00:28:09,716 --> 00:28:12,107 It's like just any other social media platform. 541 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:14,807 You're basically selling like this fake version of yourself. 542 00:28:14,849 --> 00:28:17,074 And the dangerous part 543 00:28:17,115 --> 00:28:18,440 is that you actually start to believe your own bullshit. 544 00:28:18,482 --> 00:28:19,074 Also, there's this ton of creeps. 545 00:28:19,115 --> 00:28:20,674 Oh my God, yes. 546 00:28:20,716 --> 00:28:22,741 There are so many dudes out there 547 00:28:22,783 --> 00:28:24,173 who have an Asian woman fetish. 548 00:28:24,215 --> 00:28:26,208 Or a trans fetish. 549 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:28,774 It's like a fucked up form of racism, right? 550 00:28:28,816 --> 00:28:31,749 Still, when you meet the right person, 551 00:28:34,683 --> 00:28:35,050 it's special. 552 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:37,449 Yeah. 553 00:28:39,883 --> 00:28:42,474 You know, when I first met Jim, 554 00:28:42,516 --> 00:28:46,149 I thought everything about him was wonderful and exciting. 555 00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:50,173 I mean, 556 00:28:50,215 --> 00:28:52,440 there were some things that were questionable of course, 557 00:28:52,482 --> 00:28:56,107 but I just wrote them off as his weird little quirks. 558 00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:58,874 I thought that they would go away or mellow out with time, 559 00:28:58,916 --> 00:29:02,649 but instead they just sort of settle into place. 560 00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:05,874 Like, I don't know, like sediment into river water. 561 00:29:05,916 --> 00:29:08,174 Mm, sure he can't be that bad. 562 00:29:08,216 --> 00:29:10,140 I mean honestly, 563 00:29:10,182 --> 00:29:12,774 we get along the best when our schedules are the opposite. 564 00:29:12,816 --> 00:29:15,674 Like he'll go away for work for a few weeks 565 00:29:15,716 --> 00:29:18,008 and then I'll go visit my aunt in San Diego, 566 00:29:18,049 --> 00:29:20,607 'cause yeah, I need a little space. 567 00:29:20,649 --> 00:29:22,008 You know, I need my alone time. 568 00:29:22,049 --> 00:29:24,107 Mm-hm. 569 00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:24,941 It's just like Jim is one of those guys 570 00:29:24,983 --> 00:29:27,674 who just needs to talk all the time. 571 00:29:27,716 --> 00:29:29,407 Even when he's saying something very nice, 572 00:29:29,449 --> 00:29:31,540 he still sounds like he's nagging. 573 00:29:31,582 --> 00:29:33,574 I'll be like trying to take a power nap 574 00:29:33,616 --> 00:29:34,674 and he'll just like hover over me. 575 00:29:34,716 --> 00:29:37,040 Like, "Hey hon, uh," 576 00:29:37,082 --> 00:29:39,874 "did you put the laundry in the dryer?" 577 00:29:39,916 --> 00:29:41,908 "Hon, where are the kids?" 578 00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:44,107 "Hey hon, did you call Sandy" 579 00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:45,707 "about dinner plans on Sunday night?" 580 00:29:45,749 --> 00:29:46,641 I mean, it's just like on and on and on. 581 00:29:46,683 --> 00:29:48,974 I hear you. 582 00:29:49,015 --> 00:29:51,641 I don't think he's ever understood my need to be alone. 583 00:29:51,683 --> 00:29:55,040 I mean, that's how I recharge my batteries, you know? 584 00:29:55,082 --> 00:29:57,741 It's like sometimes I need to hide in the bathroom 585 00:29:57,783 --> 00:30:00,707 just to get some alone time so I can read. 586 00:30:00,749 --> 00:30:02,507 I'm sure it's tough in the moment, 587 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:04,849 but when you look back, it'll all be worth it. 588 00:30:07,582 --> 00:30:09,208 You know, honestly, 589 00:30:09,250 --> 00:30:11,941 you were the most thoughtful partner I'd ever had. 590 00:30:11,982 --> 00:30:13,141 I'm serious. 591 00:30:13,183 --> 00:30:14,841 You always took me out on dates. 592 00:30:14,883 --> 00:30:17,707 You always held the door for me. 593 00:30:17,749 --> 00:30:20,308 You made sure our anniversaries were special. 594 00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:22,908 I suppose I was thinking about 595 00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:23,849 how I would want to be treated. 596 00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:29,807 I have to say, having lived on both sides, 597 00:30:29,849 --> 00:30:32,174 I think women tend to be more in tune 598 00:30:32,216 --> 00:30:33,574 with other people's needs. 599 00:30:33,616 --> 00:30:35,841 Men try, they do try, 600 00:30:35,883 --> 00:30:37,216 but somehow their needs tend to come first. 601 00:30:39,916 --> 00:30:42,275 Have you experimented with women since transitioning? 602 00:30:42,317 --> 00:30:47,007 Uh, there was this one cute lady at a pool party. 603 00:30:47,049 --> 00:30:50,007 I think she had a bit of a crush on me. 604 00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:51,141 Mm-hm. 605 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,908 So she used the line, 606 00:30:53,949 --> 00:30:57,040 "We should just to make sure you're not attracted to girls." 607 00:30:57,082 --> 00:30:59,150 And I said yes, and, eh. 608 00:31:00,482 --> 00:31:01,841 Just man, huh? 609 00:31:01,883 --> 00:31:02,482 Yup. 610 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:06,108 What was your first time like with the- 611 00:31:06,150 --> 00:31:08,641 - Mark. - Yeah. 612 00:31:08,683 --> 00:31:11,507 I'd spent so long imagining, fantasizing really, 613 00:31:11,549 --> 00:31:14,407 about what it would be like. 614 00:31:14,449 --> 00:31:18,183 It was hard for me to let go and just enjoy myself. 615 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:22,574 Well, best case scenario with a guy, 616 00:31:22,616 --> 00:31:24,973 I mean your first time, it's just awkward as hell. 617 00:31:25,015 --> 00:31:25,549 And you know, 618 00:31:28,417 --> 00:31:29,540 it's just like you're in your head the entire time 619 00:31:29,582 --> 00:31:31,741 over analyzing everything. 620 00:31:31,783 --> 00:31:31,949 True. 621 00:31:33,482 --> 00:31:36,807 But as you know, 622 00:31:36,849 --> 00:31:39,774 relationships are all about communication, and we- 623 00:31:39,816 --> 00:31:42,341 - You learned to communicate. 624 00:31:42,383 --> 00:31:44,540 Something like that. 625 00:31:44,582 --> 00:31:46,907 You know, my first time with a guy 626 00:31:46,949 --> 00:31:48,849 was not as romantic as I wanted it to be. 627 00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:52,807 You know, honestly men, 628 00:31:52,849 --> 00:31:55,041 they're just like horny little Jack rabbits, you know? 629 00:31:55,083 --> 00:31:56,183 They just want to like hump you until they come. 630 00:31:58,449 --> 00:32:02,807 Was I a horny little Jack rabbit? 631 00:32:02,849 --> 00:32:03,540 No. 632 00:32:03,582 --> 00:32:05,841 I mean, not always. 633 00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:07,749 You, you, you were very, you're very attentive. 634 00:32:09,848 --> 00:32:12,208 So tell me what is more difficult, 635 00:32:12,250 --> 00:32:13,449 being trans or being a woman? 636 00:32:14,982 --> 00:32:17,907 Being a woman. 637 00:32:17,949 --> 00:32:18,716 As soon as I transitioned, pew! 638 00:32:21,417 --> 00:32:23,507 Oh my God, I knew it. 639 00:32:23,549 --> 00:32:26,807 See, I tell all my guy friends about this. 640 00:32:26,848 --> 00:32:30,108 None of them believe me about, you know, male privilege. 641 00:32:30,150 --> 00:32:33,308 Work is the worst now. 642 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:35,074 In case you're somehow unaware. 643 00:32:35,116 --> 00:32:36,674 I'm very aware. 644 00:32:36,716 --> 00:32:38,407 The tech world is rampant with woman haters 645 00:32:38,449 --> 00:32:40,241 and sexist a-holes. 646 00:32:40,283 --> 00:32:41,540 Preach. 647 00:32:41,582 --> 00:32:42,507 I literally feel invisible. 648 00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:43,707 Like I'd be in a meeting, 649 00:32:43,749 --> 00:32:45,741 and as soon as I open my mouth, 650 00:32:45,783 --> 00:32:47,241 some guy starts speaking over me. 651 00:32:47,283 --> 00:32:48,341 Of course, yeah. 652 00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:50,806 Then I continue speaking 653 00:32:50,848 --> 00:32:54,549 and their simple minded ID offer response is to get louder. 654 00:32:57,050 --> 00:32:57,607 I don't know how you dealt with it your whole life, Nae. 655 00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:58,674 You need to spread the word. 656 00:32:58,716 --> 00:33:00,674 You need to do a PSA. 657 00:33:00,716 --> 00:33:01,641 You need to write a blog post or something, 658 00:33:01,683 --> 00:33:03,607 'cause men need to know. 659 00:33:03,649 --> 00:33:06,108 Well, I'm in the same boat as you now. 660 00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,574 Even my progressive male friends don't fully believe me. 661 00:33:09,616 --> 00:33:11,341 I mean, Kris, I told you this in college. 662 00:33:11,383 --> 00:33:12,774 You didn't believe me. 663 00:33:12,815 --> 00:33:14,275 See how real that privilege is? 664 00:33:14,317 --> 00:33:14,683 You feel it? 665 00:33:17,915 --> 00:33:18,050 What? 666 00:33:21,283 --> 00:33:21,749 - Oh my God. - Oh shit. 667 00:33:23,449 --> 00:33:24,540 Talking about privilege. 668 00:33:24,582 --> 00:33:26,008 Naomi Liu? 669 00:33:26,050 --> 00:33:27,607 Oh my God, hi. 670 00:33:27,649 --> 00:33:28,308 Hello, gorgeous. 671 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:29,974 Hello. 672 00:33:30,016 --> 00:33:31,507 Oh my God, 673 00:33:31,549 --> 00:33:32,641 you finally made it out to Congregation 674 00:33:32,683 --> 00:33:34,241 after all my invites. 675 00:33:34,283 --> 00:33:35,241 Is your hubby around, or? 676 00:33:35,283 --> 00:33:36,341 No. 677 00:33:36,383 --> 00:33:37,773 What's his name again? 678 00:33:37,815 --> 00:33:38,941 - It's Jim. - It doesn't matter. 679 00:33:38,983 --> 00:33:40,041 Must be out with some hot date, huh? 680 00:33:42,683 --> 00:33:44,141 And who is this charming young lady? 681 00:33:44,183 --> 00:33:45,882 Mm, uh. 682 00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:49,873 This is a friend of mine. 683 00:33:49,915 --> 00:33:53,108 She's a visiting from out of town. 684 00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:55,840 Well, she should visit more often. 685 00:33:55,882 --> 00:33:58,740 Especially if it means getting you out of the office. 686 00:33:58,782 --> 00:34:00,241 Do you know that I have not seen this woman 687 00:34:00,283 --> 00:34:01,607 out in the real world in years? 688 00:34:01,649 --> 00:34:02,375 I mean years. 689 00:34:02,417 --> 00:34:03,407 I mean. 690 00:34:03,449 --> 00:34:05,507 Yes, yes, yes, I know. 691 00:34:05,549 --> 00:34:07,375 The kids, the husband, the art thing. 692 00:34:07,417 --> 00:34:08,141 You're a very important lady. 693 00:34:08,183 --> 00:34:09,407 I'm not- 694 00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:09,574 - Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 695 00:34:09,616 --> 00:34:11,275 No, no, no. 696 00:34:11,317 --> 00:34:12,241 Don't do that to yourself. 697 00:34:12,283 --> 00:34:14,375 Naomi has two young boys at home 698 00:34:14,417 --> 00:34:17,008 and a husband to look after. 699 00:34:17,050 --> 00:34:20,574 And she's a very talented artist and a wonderful professor. 700 00:34:20,616 --> 00:34:21,806 Thank you. 701 00:34:21,848 --> 00:34:23,507 Um, who are you here to see? 702 00:34:23,549 --> 00:34:25,806 Oh, I'm meeting a, a student. 703 00:34:25,848 --> 00:34:27,375 Oh. 704 00:34:27,417 --> 00:34:28,607 One minute. 705 00:34:28,649 --> 00:34:31,041 Hm, in your class right now? 706 00:34:31,083 --> 00:34:32,806 No, she graduated actually last spring. 707 00:34:32,848 --> 00:34:35,041 She's in the master's program. 708 00:34:35,083 --> 00:34:37,641 She wanted my thoughts on her thesis paper. 709 00:34:37,683 --> 00:34:40,208 I, I was very moved. 710 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:43,108 You know, I like to follow up with my students. 711 00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:45,108 Offer my services, 712 00:34:45,150 --> 00:34:47,375 see if there's any ways that I can provide guidance. 713 00:34:47,417 --> 00:34:50,141 That's nice. 714 00:34:50,183 --> 00:34:52,674 This is gonna sound corny but it's true. 715 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:54,474 I believe that what you put out into the world, 716 00:34:54,516 --> 00:34:57,008 you get back a hundred fold. 717 00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:57,616 I really do. 718 00:34:59,682 --> 00:35:01,607 Speaking of, if you're still in town tomorrow, 719 00:35:01,649 --> 00:35:03,841 you should let me take you out. 720 00:35:03,883 --> 00:35:05,540 They say I'm an excellent tour guide. 721 00:35:05,582 --> 00:35:08,008 I know all the best spots. 722 00:35:08,050 --> 00:35:10,341 Thank you, but I'll be driving back to LA tonight. 723 00:35:10,383 --> 00:35:10,540 So I really won't have the time. 724 00:35:10,582 --> 00:35:13,150 Oh. 725 00:35:14,983 --> 00:35:17,074 I can see when I'm not needed. 726 00:35:17,116 --> 00:35:18,308 Oh really? 727 00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:21,008 So, all right, fair enough. 728 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:22,540 I'll let you ladies get back to your evening. 729 00:35:22,582 --> 00:35:24,673 Thank you. 730 00:35:24,715 --> 00:35:27,275 But if you are ever in Chandler again, 731 00:35:27,317 --> 00:35:28,773 you should look me up. 732 00:35:28,815 --> 00:35:31,108 Professor Peter Gleason, Poli-Sci. 733 00:35:31,150 --> 00:35:32,941 Thank you. 734 00:35:32,983 --> 00:35:34,150 I'm sorry, I just realized I never got your name. 735 00:35:36,582 --> 00:35:37,816 Uh, Kris. 736 00:35:40,283 --> 00:35:40,816 Kris. 737 00:35:43,549 --> 00:35:44,083 Hm. 738 00:35:47,317 --> 00:35:47,748 Well okay. 739 00:35:49,317 --> 00:35:50,841 Ladies. 740 00:35:50,883 --> 00:35:51,507 See you at work on Monday. 741 00:35:51,549 --> 00:35:53,807 Okay. 742 00:35:53,849 --> 00:35:55,275 Do not have too much fun without me. 743 00:35:55,317 --> 00:35:56,150 Okay. 744 00:35:59,250 --> 00:36:01,174 Let the drinking slash office hours begin, huh? 745 00:36:01,216 --> 00:36:03,141 Fuck. 746 00:36:03,183 --> 00:36:03,916 I never imagined I'd ever see Peter again. 747 00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:06,648 Thank God he didn't recognize me. 748 00:36:08,183 --> 00:36:09,375 Ew. 749 00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:11,774 Ew, ew. 750 00:36:11,816 --> 00:36:14,341 Those horrible memories are coming back to me. 751 00:36:14,383 --> 00:36:15,983 And he still thinks he's the most important guy on campus. 752 00:36:17,549 --> 00:36:18,050 Sometimes, 753 00:36:20,549 --> 00:36:23,308 I wonder if I would have ended up like that if I hadn't. 754 00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:25,375 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 755 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:28,241 Kris, you were never that bad. 756 00:36:28,283 --> 00:36:28,816 Thank you. 757 00:36:30,615 --> 00:36:31,540 Do you want another drink? 758 00:36:31,582 --> 00:36:33,341 Definitely. 759 00:36:33,383 --> 00:36:35,141 I think you need another drink. 760 00:36:35,183 --> 00:36:36,908 I'll be back. 761 00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:38,841 Don't have too much fun without me. 762 00:36:38,883 --> 00:36:39,615 I won't. 763 00:36:42,083 --> 00:36:42,648 Thank you. 764 00:37:00,715 --> 00:37:01,883 Peter is waving at us. 765 00:37:03,283 --> 00:37:03,715 Oh God. 766 00:37:05,417 --> 00:37:06,673 He likes you. 767 00:37:06,715 --> 00:37:07,715 Uh, he loves you. 768 00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:11,841 You're his new girlfriend. 769 00:37:11,883 --> 00:37:15,749 So, I've shown some of my cis guy friends 770 00:37:18,216 --> 00:37:19,539 an animated video of gender affirmation surgery. 771 00:37:19,581 --> 00:37:21,341 You know, just to fuck with them. 772 00:37:21,383 --> 00:37:23,440 You're so bad. 773 00:37:23,482 --> 00:37:25,507 They're slicing open the testicles, 774 00:37:25,548 --> 00:37:27,474 and there's a CGI hand pulling stuff out 775 00:37:27,516 --> 00:37:30,573 like some demented, freaking cartoon. 776 00:37:30,615 --> 00:37:32,707 And so one of my friends is watching 777 00:37:32,749 --> 00:37:35,573 and he starts screaming at the top of his lungs. 778 00:37:35,615 --> 00:37:36,874 "It's making them happy!" 779 00:37:36,916 --> 00:37:38,208 "This is what they want!" 780 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:40,539 "Modern medicine is amazing!" 781 00:37:40,581 --> 00:37:42,874 "Nobody's getting hurt." 782 00:37:42,916 --> 00:37:43,741 You should've seen his face as he was saying it. 783 00:37:43,783 --> 00:37:46,074 He was in pain just at the thought of it. 784 00:37:46,116 --> 00:37:48,241 I think he actually described the operation 785 00:37:48,283 --> 00:37:50,083 as balloon animal stuff. 786 00:37:52,283 --> 00:37:54,375 Wait, I know all about balloon animals. 787 00:37:54,417 --> 00:37:55,807 Thank you. 788 00:37:55,849 --> 00:38:00,041 Thank you very much. 789 00:38:00,083 --> 00:38:01,275 Men. 790 00:38:01,317 --> 00:38:01,816 Men. 791 00:38:03,283 --> 00:38:03,883 Yeah but, men. 792 00:38:06,116 --> 00:38:06,749 - You know? - Yeah. 793 00:38:11,317 --> 00:38:12,506 Some of your students? 794 00:38:12,548 --> 00:38:14,539 I don't know. 795 00:38:14,581 --> 00:38:14,916 They all start to look the same after a while. 796 00:38:17,749 --> 00:38:19,308 I still can't believe you're a teacher. 797 00:38:19,350 --> 00:38:21,074 Professor. 798 00:38:21,116 --> 00:38:23,874 So respectable, you've come so far. 799 00:38:23,916 --> 00:38:27,041 It makes me seem like a real grownup, right? 800 00:38:27,083 --> 00:38:30,473 Must be rewarding working with such bright young minds. 801 00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:33,041 So much potential. 802 00:38:33,083 --> 00:38:34,008 You know, when you and I were together, 803 00:38:34,050 --> 00:38:35,807 I always had this dream 804 00:38:35,849 --> 00:38:38,308 of building up my artistic reputation. 805 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:39,641 I remember. 806 00:38:39,683 --> 00:38:43,174 Maybe after I had some patrons 807 00:38:43,216 --> 00:38:45,607 and I was really established in the artist community, 808 00:38:45,649 --> 00:38:47,707 then I would set up residency 809 00:38:47,749 --> 00:38:50,174 at one of those old Victorian boarding homes. 810 00:38:50,216 --> 00:38:53,141 Like some artistic think tank. 811 00:38:53,183 --> 00:38:56,174 Yeah, it would be filled with all of these true artists 812 00:38:56,216 --> 00:39:00,008 and we would just spend all of our time 813 00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:03,539 having these like invigorating conversations about life 814 00:39:03,581 --> 00:39:05,874 and how to affect change 815 00:39:05,916 --> 00:39:07,741 and shape the world through our art. 816 00:39:07,783 --> 00:39:09,774 And then eventually, like eventually. 817 00:39:09,816 --> 00:39:12,506 Like the years later, much later, 818 00:39:12,548 --> 00:39:15,506 I would, I might transition into teaching. 819 00:39:15,548 --> 00:39:16,574 I might transition to teaching. 820 00:39:16,616 --> 00:39:18,641 Don't look at me like that. 821 00:39:18,683 --> 00:39:20,883 I think they're very lucky to have you here at CC. 822 00:39:22,883 --> 00:39:23,883 I do not feel very lucky. 823 00:39:26,016 --> 00:39:28,008 I feel like my entire life has been nothing 824 00:39:28,050 --> 00:39:30,308 but just like a series of setbacks. 825 00:39:30,350 --> 00:39:32,774 These kids. 826 00:39:32,816 --> 00:39:33,807 God, there's no thought in their art. 827 00:39:33,849 --> 00:39:36,041 You know, there's no fire. 828 00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:38,150 It's like, it's like punching a wet fucking sand bag. 829 00:39:40,515 --> 00:39:42,275 That does sound pretty frustrating. 830 00:39:42,317 --> 00:39:44,008 And you know, 831 00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:46,574 critiquing their art is like the worst 832 00:39:46,616 --> 00:39:47,783 because you still have to say something. 833 00:39:49,716 --> 00:39:53,874 They take everything so personally, you know? 834 00:39:53,916 --> 00:39:55,016 It's like some kids, they're really like, 835 00:39:57,350 --> 00:39:58,241 they're precious little snowflakes. 836 00:39:58,283 --> 00:39:59,607 Sorry. 837 00:39:59,649 --> 00:40:00,515 I suppose. 838 00:40:03,016 --> 00:40:06,874 But you don't just help your students with their artwork. 839 00:40:06,916 --> 00:40:08,083 You're inspiring them to grow as human beings. 840 00:40:10,050 --> 00:40:10,741 That's important. 841 00:40:10,783 --> 00:40:12,540 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 842 00:40:12,582 --> 00:40:14,308 I've never been inspiring to anyone. 843 00:40:14,350 --> 00:40:16,439 Kris, do you know where I live? 844 00:40:16,481 --> 00:40:19,406 I live in one of those horrible cookie cutter neighborhoods 845 00:40:19,448 --> 00:40:22,174 that you and I used to make fun of. 846 00:40:22,216 --> 00:40:24,574 Oh, I've always thought those neighborhoods were charming. 847 00:40:24,616 --> 00:40:26,174 There are worse places to live. 848 00:40:26,216 --> 00:40:27,941 Yeah, sure, okay. 849 00:40:27,983 --> 00:40:30,574 It's just so fucking boring, you know? 850 00:40:30,616 --> 00:40:32,816 They're like, just ordinary. 851 00:40:34,216 --> 00:40:35,908 Do you know what I miss? 852 00:40:35,950 --> 00:40:38,741 I miss doing like weird random shit, okay? 853 00:40:38,783 --> 00:40:40,607 Like look at you. 854 00:40:40,649 --> 00:40:41,908 You've completely reinvented yourself. 855 00:40:41,950 --> 00:40:43,607 I guess. 856 00:40:43,649 --> 00:40:44,141 No, no, I mean that as a compliment. 857 00:40:44,183 --> 00:40:45,607 I'm jealous of you. 858 00:40:45,649 --> 00:40:49,549 You, you completely went after what you wanted. 859 00:40:54,416 --> 00:40:56,116 This isn't what I wanted, Nae. 860 00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:58,549 It wasn't a want. 861 00:41:00,516 --> 00:41:03,074 It was survival. 862 00:41:03,116 --> 00:41:03,950 I wouldn't be alive today if I hadn't transitioned. 863 00:41:06,349 --> 00:41:09,307 People always say transitioning is so brave. 864 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:09,916 I just don't think of it that way. 865 00:41:13,883 --> 00:41:14,816 Yeah, that's a fair point. 866 00:41:17,316 --> 00:41:20,582 And beside being trans, I live a pretty normal life. 867 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:23,774 I mean, just because you have a house, 868 00:41:23,816 --> 00:41:26,174 a husband and two beautiful children 869 00:41:26,216 --> 00:41:27,549 doesn't mean you aren't interesting or unique. 870 00:41:29,749 --> 00:41:31,974 There's some days when I think 871 00:41:32,016 --> 00:41:34,083 I'm just turning into like my dad with his photography. 872 00:41:38,582 --> 00:41:42,041 There were so many things that I um, 873 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:42,707 that I gave him shit about when I was growing up, 874 00:41:42,749 --> 00:41:45,674 but now I understand. 875 00:41:45,716 --> 00:41:47,016 I wanted to say this earlier. 876 00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:53,849 I was so sorry to hear about his passing. 877 00:41:55,516 --> 00:41:55,883 Thank you. 878 00:42:00,582 --> 00:42:01,807 How are your parents? 879 00:42:01,849 --> 00:42:04,941 How are Mina and Cyrus? 880 00:42:04,983 --> 00:42:06,641 They're great. 881 00:42:06,683 --> 00:42:08,507 Mom has been volunteering 882 00:42:08,549 --> 00:42:11,274 at one of the local Boys and Girls clubs. 883 00:42:11,316 --> 00:42:13,507 The children are completely obsessed with her. 884 00:42:13,549 --> 00:42:15,908 Well, naturally. 885 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:19,240 It's no surprise since she stuffs her purse with candy. 886 00:42:19,282 --> 00:42:20,707 Oh. 887 00:42:20,749 --> 00:42:23,008 She's even got dad to go with her. 888 00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:26,108 A whole class full of surrogate grandchildren. 889 00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:27,674 I'm very surprised 890 00:42:27,716 --> 00:42:30,141 that they haven't stolen one of them yet. 891 00:42:30,183 --> 00:42:32,016 I can't deny, they're so good with kids. 892 00:42:34,316 --> 00:42:36,008 When we were together, 893 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:38,274 they were always asking 894 00:42:38,316 --> 00:42:40,549 about when we were going to settle down and start a family. 895 00:42:49,516 --> 00:42:53,674 Well, that clearly would never have worked. 896 00:42:53,716 --> 00:42:56,641 They're really great people though. 897 00:42:56,683 --> 00:42:57,950 They're gonna make great grandparents one day. 898 00:43:01,883 --> 00:43:03,341 I got to run to the bathroom. 899 00:43:03,383 --> 00:43:03,950 Oh my God, I do, too. 900 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:06,482 Uh-huh. 901 00:43:11,582 --> 00:43:14,108 Hey, how far are we from the campus? 902 00:43:14,150 --> 00:43:15,041 Like 10 Minutes. 903 00:43:15,083 --> 00:43:16,574 Why? 904 00:43:16,616 --> 00:43:18,341 Want to swing by CC. 905 00:43:18,383 --> 00:43:19,507 Revisit the old stomping grounds. 906 00:43:19,549 --> 00:43:20,474 Oh my God. 907 00:43:20,516 --> 00:43:21,041 Really, right now? 908 00:43:21,083 --> 00:43:22,741 Yeah. 909 00:43:22,783 --> 00:43:24,974 You could show me your office. 910 00:43:25,016 --> 00:43:26,507 You said you have a new performance piece you're working on. 911 00:43:26,549 --> 00:43:28,607 I do. 912 00:43:28,649 --> 00:43:30,207 You could show me your student's art work. 913 00:43:30,249 --> 00:43:31,716 We could reminisce about the good old times. 914 00:43:33,249 --> 00:43:34,507 You know what? 915 00:43:34,549 --> 00:43:36,607 I'm going to text my mother-in-law 916 00:43:36,649 --> 00:43:37,582 and see if she wants to spend the night. 917 00:43:40,050 --> 00:43:41,108 Oh, Martin. 918 00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:42,741 Naomi. 919 00:43:42,783 --> 00:43:44,474 Hey, how are you? 920 00:43:44,516 --> 00:43:45,540 Doing good. 921 00:43:45,582 --> 00:43:46,407 It's really good to see you. 922 00:43:46,449 --> 00:43:47,841 Good to see you as well. 923 00:43:47,883 --> 00:43:48,741 - I'm sorry, I just got a text. - No worries. 924 00:43:48,783 --> 00:43:49,308 This is my friend, Kris. 925 00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:50,375 She actually went to CC. 926 00:43:50,417 --> 00:43:51,182 She's visiting from Phoenix. 927 00:43:53,215 --> 00:43:53,641 It's a pleasure to meet you. 928 00:43:53,683 --> 00:43:55,474 Likewise. 929 00:43:55,516 --> 00:43:55,774 You're gonna have to excuse her. 930 00:43:55,816 --> 00:43:57,641 She's a little shaken up 931 00:43:57,683 --> 00:43:58,341 because we just ran into Peter in there. 932 00:43:58,383 --> 00:44:00,440 Oh no. 933 00:44:00,482 --> 00:44:01,807 Professor Peter Gleason, Poli Sci. 934 00:44:01,849 --> 00:44:04,674 - Here's my card. - Professor Sleazon, ugh. 935 00:44:04,716 --> 00:44:07,474 Please do not judge all professors by his example. 936 00:44:07,516 --> 00:44:08,173 I beg you. 937 00:44:08,215 --> 00:44:10,207 I do not. 938 00:44:10,249 --> 00:44:11,641 Martin's actually one of our top literature professors. 939 00:44:11,683 --> 00:44:13,574 He just wrote a book 940 00:44:13,616 --> 00:44:15,607 that's on the New York Times bestseller list. 941 00:44:15,649 --> 00:44:18,707 Naomi, it's just a small book, personal essays. 942 00:44:18,749 --> 00:44:20,641 It's nothing special. 943 00:44:20,683 --> 00:44:22,275 - It's nothing special? - No. 944 00:44:22,317 --> 00:44:23,974 Martin, it is the New York Times bestseller list, come on. 945 00:44:24,016 --> 00:44:25,341 Okay. 946 00:44:25,383 --> 00:44:26,674 His work is really incredible. 947 00:44:26,716 --> 00:44:28,275 She's too kind. 948 00:44:28,317 --> 00:44:30,540 Kris is, she's like a tech wiz. 949 00:44:30,582 --> 00:44:32,241 She's really into computers and stuff. 950 00:44:32,283 --> 00:44:34,140 Well, now I must admit, 951 00:44:34,182 --> 00:44:36,774 I still find computers and technology 952 00:44:36,816 --> 00:44:39,440 to be a bit intimidating. 953 00:44:39,482 --> 00:44:41,440 My entire family's super tech savvy 954 00:44:41,482 --> 00:44:43,173 and I'm the one and only hold out. 955 00:44:43,215 --> 00:44:44,173 He's a true Luddite. 956 00:44:44,215 --> 00:44:46,207 I mean, what can I say? 957 00:44:46,249 --> 00:44:48,607 I enjoy my typewriter as opposed to a laptop any day. 958 00:44:48,649 --> 00:44:49,749 It still works and it hasn't broken yet, so. 959 00:44:52,383 --> 00:44:53,641 Maybe one of these days you can give me some pointers 960 00:44:53,683 --> 00:44:56,107 on this tech lingo. 961 00:44:56,149 --> 00:44:57,275 Oh, I'm the last person to give anybody a tutorial. 962 00:44:57,317 --> 00:44:58,540 That's really- 963 00:44:58,582 --> 00:44:59,407 - Oh, I'm sure you're brilliant. 964 00:44:59,449 --> 00:45:00,774 Oh no, I'm not. 965 00:45:00,816 --> 00:45:02,474 Well how about we start 966 00:45:02,516 --> 00:45:03,574 with like a terabyte versus a gigabyte. 967 00:45:03,616 --> 00:45:04,674 What's the? 968 00:45:04,716 --> 00:45:05,807 Oh, that's easy. 969 00:45:05,849 --> 00:45:07,908 Anybody can look that up online. 970 00:45:07,950 --> 00:45:08,540 Well when you forget your username and password 971 00:45:08,582 --> 00:45:10,507 as much as I do. 972 00:45:10,549 --> 00:45:11,841 Emails, this, that, where do, I don't even. 973 00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:13,874 I'd rather just stick paper in, crank it. 974 00:45:13,916 --> 00:45:15,050 The sound of a space bar just gets me going. 975 00:45:20,549 --> 00:45:23,507 Well you, you guys going inside, you leaving or? 976 00:45:23,549 --> 00:45:24,741 I mean. 977 00:45:24,783 --> 00:45:27,008 Uh, we really should be going. 978 00:45:27,049 --> 00:45:28,807 But thank you, that's very sweet. 979 00:45:28,849 --> 00:45:30,607 I completely understand. 980 00:45:30,649 --> 00:45:32,241 You've got two little ones to tuck in tonight. 981 00:45:32,283 --> 00:45:32,683 They're fine. 982 00:45:35,216 --> 00:45:36,073 It was a pleasure meeting you, Kris. 983 00:45:36,115 --> 00:45:39,241 I hope to see you again. 984 00:45:39,283 --> 00:45:43,008 It was very nice meeting you as well, Martin. 985 00:45:43,049 --> 00:45:45,308 Kris could you give you her number 986 00:45:45,350 --> 00:45:48,241 'cause she is going to be here for another night. 987 00:45:48,283 --> 00:45:49,107 I could give you her number. 988 00:45:49,149 --> 00:45:50,208 Uh. 989 00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:52,474 If, that's up, if you- 990 00:45:52,516 --> 00:45:54,908 - I mean, I'm really sorry. 991 00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:55,440 I really don't think I'll have the time. 992 00:45:55,482 --> 00:45:57,507 No worries, no worries. 993 00:45:57,549 --> 00:45:59,507 Next time. 994 00:45:59,549 --> 00:46:02,407 Well you ladies have a good evening. 995 00:46:02,449 --> 00:46:04,908 Get home safely, be well. 996 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:05,716 - Good night. - Good night. 997 00:46:08,649 --> 00:46:10,375 Hey, why are you being so weird? 998 00:46:10,417 --> 00:46:12,208 You know what? 999 00:46:12,250 --> 00:46:14,107 If I was single I would be all over that. 1000 00:46:14,149 --> 00:46:16,841 Well, I'm not trying to, you not get with another guy. 1001 00:46:16,883 --> 00:46:19,607 You know, things are complicated for someone whose trans. 1002 00:46:19,649 --> 00:46:20,208 One nighter guys aren't really a thing. 1003 00:46:20,250 --> 00:46:21,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1004 00:46:21,482 --> 00:46:22,607 I'm sorry, I have to get this. 1005 00:46:22,649 --> 00:46:23,308 One second. 1006 00:46:23,350 --> 00:46:25,841 Hey Nana. 1007 00:46:25,883 --> 00:46:26,749 Yeah, no, I got your text messages. 1008 00:46:29,283 --> 00:46:30,216 Still out with my friend, she's. 1009 00:46:32,783 --> 00:46:33,683 Wait, how long has he been crying for? 1010 00:46:35,783 --> 00:46:36,874 Oh, no, no, no, no, no. 1011 00:46:36,916 --> 00:46:39,774 Um, no, I gotta get back. 1012 00:46:39,816 --> 00:46:42,507 Yeah, no, wants us there tomorrow. 1013 00:46:42,549 --> 00:46:43,607 I'm sorry. 1014 00:46:43,649 --> 00:46:44,641 No, it's okay. 1015 00:46:44,683 --> 00:46:45,082 I know my kids. 1016 00:46:46,582 --> 00:46:48,540 Okay, all right. 1017 00:46:48,582 --> 00:46:49,883 I'll see you soon, I'll see you soon, bye. 1018 00:46:57,250 --> 00:46:58,674 That was Jim's mom. 1019 00:46:58,716 --> 00:47:01,607 She's watching the boys tonight. 1020 00:47:01,649 --> 00:47:03,607 One of them woke up and he can't get back to sleep 1021 00:47:03,649 --> 00:47:07,474 so I gotta get home and put him to bed. 1022 00:47:07,516 --> 00:47:10,507 He's gonna be crazy tomorrow, so. 1023 00:47:10,549 --> 00:47:13,707 I had a, I had a really good time tonight. 1024 00:47:13,749 --> 00:47:15,574 It was really nice to see you. 1025 00:47:15,616 --> 00:47:17,574 And I know it's late. 1026 00:47:17,616 --> 00:47:19,308 You gotta get back to LA, so. 1027 00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:21,674 Oh no, it's no problem. 1028 00:47:21,716 --> 00:47:23,275 We can totally swing by the house. 1029 00:47:23,317 --> 00:47:24,883 I'd love to see the little ones. 1030 00:47:26,883 --> 00:47:27,116 Really? 1031 00:47:29,250 --> 00:47:29,716 Me and kids. 1032 00:47:33,916 --> 00:47:36,108 It shouldn't take long. 1033 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:39,007 Just, I'll call us a car. 1034 00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:04,807 ♪ Hush little baby don't say a word ♪ 1035 00:48:04,849 --> 00:48:09,208 ♪ Mama's gonna bye you a mockingbird ♪ 1036 00:48:09,250 --> 00:48:14,007 ♪ And if that mockingbird won't sing ♪ 1037 00:48:14,049 --> 00:48:17,915 ♪ Mama's gonna buy you a diamond ring ♪ 1038 00:48:20,582 --> 00:48:23,516 ♪ And if that diamond ring won't brass ♪ 1039 00:48:25,783 --> 00:48:29,741 ♪ Mama's gonna buy you a looking glass ♪ 1040 00:48:29,783 --> 00:48:34,275 ♪ And if that looking glass gets broke ♪ 1041 00:48:34,317 --> 00:48:38,649 ♪ Mama's gonna buy you ♪ 1042 00:48:40,317 --> 00:48:43,208 ♪ And if that Billy goat ♪ 1043 00:49:48,815 --> 00:49:50,716 Have a really beautiful family. 1044 00:49:54,183 --> 00:49:57,782 I know this isn't exactly how you pictured the future to be, 1045 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:02,983 but I hope you don't forget how special it is. 1046 00:50:09,683 --> 00:50:10,683 I never thought you'd have kids before me. 1047 00:50:16,882 --> 00:50:17,848 I wasn't even sure I wanted kids. 1048 00:50:20,283 --> 00:50:20,983 They were such a mystery to me. 1049 00:50:23,749 --> 00:50:26,341 Nothing like having two of them to dispel all that. 1050 00:50:26,383 --> 00:50:28,707 You were always the one who fell to pieces around them. 1051 00:50:28,748 --> 00:50:30,507 Make that squeaking whenever you saw them. 1052 00:50:34,482 --> 00:50:36,275 God, you're such a girl. 1053 00:50:36,317 --> 00:50:37,050 I can't help myself. 1054 00:50:38,782 --> 00:50:40,740 I mean, I don't know. 1055 00:50:40,782 --> 00:50:43,882 Maybe it sounds a bit old fashioned to say this, but, 1056 00:50:45,882 --> 00:50:47,141 is there really anything more fulfilling 1057 00:50:47,183 --> 00:50:47,183 than being a mother? 1058 00:50:49,782 --> 00:50:53,607 You know, when Nathan was three, 1059 00:50:53,649 --> 00:50:54,616 he got into my acrylic paints. 1060 00:50:56,683 --> 00:50:58,740 God, I was so scared. 1061 00:50:58,782 --> 00:50:59,649 We had to take him to the hospital. 1062 00:51:01,649 --> 00:51:02,582 We had to call poison control. 1063 00:51:05,150 --> 00:51:06,050 That day I really felt like I had failed as a mom. 1064 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:12,507 I mean, I love those boys, you know, more than anything, 1065 00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:14,616 but sometimes I wonder if I'd just be better off as an aunt, 1066 00:51:17,116 --> 00:51:20,740 and don't even get me started on being pregnant. 1067 00:51:20,782 --> 00:51:22,806 I mean, they say that there's nothing more natural 1068 00:51:22,848 --> 00:51:23,950 than growing something inside of you, but it's like. 1069 00:51:26,683 --> 00:51:29,008 I'll never know what that's like. 1070 00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:31,941 Trust me, you really don't need to know. 1071 00:51:31,983 --> 00:51:35,516 Between the bloating and the morning sickness, 1072 00:51:37,250 --> 00:51:37,782 the postpartum depression. 1073 00:51:41,317 --> 00:51:43,141 I mean, you're essentially carrying something 1074 00:51:43,183 --> 00:51:45,874 like the size of a bowling ball for months. 1075 00:51:45,916 --> 00:51:48,841 Your body and your boobs, they're never the same. 1076 00:51:48,883 --> 00:51:50,116 Not every woman needs to go through all of that. 1077 00:51:51,383 --> 00:51:51,715 Yeah. 1078 00:51:54,682 --> 00:51:56,083 Just wish I had the choice. 1079 00:52:01,183 --> 00:52:02,607 When I was younger, 1080 00:52:02,649 --> 00:52:04,041 I used to pray every night 1081 00:52:04,083 --> 00:52:07,041 that by the time I got my surgery, 1082 00:52:07,083 --> 00:52:09,748 that uterine transplants were finally possible. 1083 00:52:13,748 --> 00:52:15,682 Science just hasn't quite caught up yet. 1084 00:52:23,582 --> 00:52:25,706 Well you could always adopt. 1085 00:52:25,748 --> 00:52:27,341 I mean, Jim's adopted and his family is- 1086 00:52:27,383 --> 00:52:28,183 - Eh, I know. 1087 00:52:31,983 --> 00:52:34,016 I just always wanted to have my own biological children. 1088 00:52:37,417 --> 00:52:37,883 You saved your sperm, right? 1089 00:52:39,383 --> 00:52:42,241 When I first came out, 1090 00:52:42,283 --> 00:52:44,241 things were pretty rocky between my parents and me. 1091 00:52:44,283 --> 00:52:46,074 I mean, we're good now, 1092 00:52:46,116 --> 00:52:49,783 but they've always wanted grandchildren, as you know. 1093 00:52:52,783 --> 00:52:55,874 My father is the only son in his family, 1094 00:52:55,916 --> 00:52:57,582 so our family name might die with him. 1095 00:52:59,849 --> 00:53:03,108 So as part of the condition 1096 00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:07,050 to get their approval to start transitioning, 1097 00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:14,706 I was to make a deposit to a sperm bank. 1098 00:53:14,748 --> 00:53:15,682 Not that I wouldn't have done it anyway. 1099 00:53:18,250 --> 00:53:20,308 But they say there's no point in having your sperm frozen 1100 00:53:20,350 --> 00:53:23,308 for longer than 15 years. 1101 00:53:23,350 --> 00:53:23,682 It's already been 14, so. 1102 00:53:28,216 --> 00:53:29,440 About a year ago, 1103 00:53:29,482 --> 00:53:32,174 I noticed my parents went from saying 1104 00:53:32,216 --> 00:53:34,341 "We want grandchildren one day," 1105 00:53:34,383 --> 00:53:37,615 to "We used to on grandchildren." 1106 00:53:41,783 --> 00:53:42,749 It's a relief, really. 1107 00:53:45,749 --> 00:53:47,241 To know they don't carry 1108 00:53:47,283 --> 00:53:49,183 those expectations around with them anymore. 1109 00:54:04,983 --> 00:54:06,050 Remember that night sophomore year? 1110 00:54:08,883 --> 00:54:10,950 We were coming back from Jeremy's house party. 1111 00:54:15,116 --> 00:54:15,916 I think it was this neighborhood. 1112 00:54:19,116 --> 00:54:20,208 Must have been February, 1113 00:54:20,250 --> 00:54:22,783 'cause we were all wearing our big jackets. 1114 00:54:24,615 --> 00:54:26,216 God, we were so high. 1115 00:54:28,883 --> 00:54:30,648 Everyone wanted to hide in their rooms. 1116 00:54:33,083 --> 00:54:36,208 But you, Naomi Liu, 1117 00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:39,506 decided that we all needed to go around 1118 00:54:39,548 --> 00:54:41,449 tagging the campus buildings. 1119 00:54:44,216 --> 00:54:46,783 I'd never done anything like that before in my life, 1120 00:54:48,515 --> 00:54:49,482 or since, really. 1121 00:54:55,317 --> 00:54:56,716 That night was so crazy. 1122 00:55:06,849 --> 00:55:07,916 Even the air smells the same. 1123 00:56:17,150 --> 00:56:19,050 Wow, you have some amazing students. 1124 00:56:37,350 --> 00:56:37,783 Who did this? 1125 00:56:39,515 --> 00:56:40,582 This is Harzan's. 1126 00:56:44,083 --> 00:56:44,783 He's actually trans. 1127 00:56:47,416 --> 00:56:50,540 Well, he seems really talented. 1128 00:56:50,582 --> 00:56:52,150 Yeah, he's got a long career ahead of him. 1129 00:56:55,816 --> 00:56:59,050 Well I think he's very lucky to have you as a teacher. 1130 00:57:30,849 --> 00:57:32,950 Being in here feels like visiting another lifetime, 1131 00:57:34,883 --> 00:57:36,083 like a parallel universe. 1132 00:57:40,783 --> 00:57:41,950 We used to have some amazing times in here. 1133 00:57:45,582 --> 00:57:47,116 Talking until four in the morning, 1134 00:57:49,616 --> 00:57:53,150 arguing about art and politics. 1135 00:57:56,216 --> 00:57:57,448 We thought we had the answers to everything. 1136 00:58:04,016 --> 00:58:05,849 Do you remember our last night together before you left? 1137 00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:12,108 Yeah, I mean, sure, of course. 1138 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:13,950 But we don't have to talk about that. 1139 00:58:16,016 --> 00:58:17,440 Well that's very typical of you. 1140 00:58:17,482 --> 00:58:17,883 I'm sorry? 1141 00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:21,083 You're always avoiding any type of conflict. 1142 00:58:23,216 --> 00:58:24,674 I'm not avoiding conflict. 1143 00:58:24,716 --> 00:58:25,849 I just don't see why you're bringing that up. 1144 00:58:28,183 --> 00:58:28,916 Well, it's not like I could bring it up before. 1145 00:58:30,783 --> 00:58:31,482 Guess you made sure of that. 1146 00:58:33,516 --> 00:58:34,540 Come on, Naomi. 1147 00:58:34,582 --> 00:58:36,374 It's been a good night. 1148 00:58:36,416 --> 00:58:38,540 Your parents didn't know what was going on with you. 1149 00:58:38,582 --> 00:58:42,216 Only that you were taking time to just be alone and think, 1150 00:58:43,416 --> 00:58:44,074 get some help. 1151 00:58:44,116 --> 00:58:45,874 Can't we just- 1152 00:58:45,916 --> 00:58:47,274 - You know that you left your stuff? 1153 00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:49,041 All of your clothes. 1154 00:58:49,083 --> 00:58:50,741 And I didn't know what to do with them. 1155 00:58:50,783 --> 00:58:52,674 I didn't know whether I should just throw them out. 1156 00:58:52,716 --> 00:58:53,474 Should I keep them? 1157 00:58:53,516 --> 00:58:54,607 Naomi. 1158 00:58:54,649 --> 00:58:55,083 You left me, Kris. 1159 00:58:57,382 --> 00:58:58,974 You left me like I was a stranger. 1160 00:58:59,016 --> 00:59:00,774 Not like somebody that you said that you loved. 1161 00:59:00,816 --> 00:59:01,150 Okay. 1162 00:59:03,282 --> 00:59:03,950 Okay. 1163 00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:12,649 I apologized for what I did and I will say it again. 1164 00:59:15,516 --> 00:59:17,215 I take responsibility for that choice. 1165 00:59:19,649 --> 00:59:22,741 And I'd like to think that we can move on 1166 00:59:22,783 --> 00:59:25,741 and go back to being friends. 1167 00:59:25,783 --> 00:59:27,207 Why do you fucking keep saying that we were friends? 1168 00:59:27,249 --> 00:59:28,507 We were never friends. 1169 00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:29,641 We were friends for like what? 1170 00:59:29,683 --> 00:59:31,407 It was like a week, a week. 1171 00:59:31,449 --> 00:59:33,307 We were friends for a week 1172 00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:34,974 before we started to hook up. 1173 00:59:35,016 --> 00:59:36,874 I'm just saying we had a solid foundation of friendship. 1174 00:59:36,916 --> 00:59:38,150 Stop pretending that we didn't have a relationship. 1175 00:59:44,016 --> 00:59:45,440 Oh my God. 1176 00:59:45,482 --> 00:59:46,807 You always fucking do this. 1177 00:59:46,849 --> 00:59:49,141 You always fucking do this. 1178 00:59:49,183 --> 00:59:50,707 You're always looking at the brighter side of things. 1179 00:59:50,749 --> 00:59:52,908 And that's such a bad thing? 1180 00:59:52,950 --> 00:59:56,041 Yeah, it is if you cannot look at things as they are, 1181 00:59:56,083 --> 00:59:58,341 as they really are. 1182 00:59:58,383 --> 01:00:00,141 What did you even learn in therapy all those years? 1183 01:00:00,182 --> 01:00:02,308 - God. - Plenty. 1184 01:00:02,350 --> 01:00:05,474 Well, you can't rewrite history, Kris, okay. 1185 01:00:05,516 --> 01:00:08,008 Like the way you did tonight on the way here, 1186 01:00:08,050 --> 01:00:09,074 when you were talking about tagging. 1187 01:00:09,116 --> 01:00:10,908 And, so, what? 1188 01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:14,540 You left out the most important part of the story. 1189 01:00:14,582 --> 01:00:16,574 My friend, Jillian, 1190 01:00:16,616 --> 01:00:18,741 she was sexually assaulted and that's why we were out there. 1191 01:00:18,783 --> 01:00:20,141 We were putting up statistics. 1192 01:00:20,182 --> 01:00:22,641 Not 'cause we were trying to be edgy. 1193 01:00:22,683 --> 01:00:23,674 Oh, oh, I'm sorry. 1194 01:00:23,716 --> 01:00:25,141 Did you forget about that? 1195 01:00:25,182 --> 01:00:27,008 Yeah, no, we weren't doing that 1196 01:00:27,050 --> 01:00:28,474 just so you could have a fun experience. 1197 01:00:28,516 --> 01:00:30,041 That, that, that's really unfair. 1198 01:00:30,083 --> 01:00:32,774 I mean, just because I had a positive experience that night 1199 01:00:32,816 --> 01:00:35,140 doesn't mean I'm trivializing what happened to Jillian. 1200 01:00:35,182 --> 01:00:37,240 I mean, if it wasn't for my positive attitude, 1201 01:00:37,282 --> 01:00:38,974 I probably would be dead by now. 1202 01:00:39,016 --> 01:00:40,674 I'm sorry I can't be more bitter about things like you. 1203 01:00:40,716 --> 01:00:42,074 Really, that's how it is? 1204 01:00:42,116 --> 01:00:43,407 Well, my life didn't even begin 1205 01:00:43,449 --> 01:00:44,950 until 14 fucking years ago. 1206 01:00:52,849 --> 01:00:56,275 Do you have any idea how that completely erases everything 1207 01:00:56,317 --> 01:00:57,641 that you and I have been through together? 1208 01:00:57,683 --> 01:00:58,516 Everything that I've been through? 1209 01:01:01,449 --> 01:01:01,716 Oh my God. 1210 01:01:03,616 --> 01:01:04,050 Oh my God. 1211 01:01:07,215 --> 01:01:11,140 Listen, I came here with the best of intentions, 1212 01:01:11,182 --> 01:01:13,707 but clearly there is nothing I can say or do 1213 01:01:13,749 --> 01:01:14,582 that will make you happy. 1214 01:01:17,516 --> 01:01:18,449 I'm exhausted. 1215 01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:23,140 I think I should probably just leave. 1216 01:01:23,182 --> 01:01:25,182 I really wanted tonight to go differently. 1217 01:01:26,849 --> 01:01:27,574 You're just gonna leave. 1218 01:01:27,616 --> 01:01:29,540 Oh, okay. 1219 01:01:29,582 --> 01:01:30,482 Well I guess some things never change, huh? 1220 01:01:35,749 --> 01:01:36,616 Like you changed, Naomi? 1221 01:01:39,050 --> 01:01:41,507 I mean literally you've been complaining all night 1222 01:01:41,549 --> 01:01:45,674 about your life, your job, your marriage, 1223 01:01:45,716 --> 01:01:48,275 even your children, like somehow they're responsible. 1224 01:01:48,317 --> 01:01:50,140 Of course I'm never going to satisfy you, who does? 1225 01:01:50,182 --> 01:01:51,574 Oh thank you for reminding me 1226 01:01:51,616 --> 01:01:53,774 that my life's not satisfying. 1227 01:01:53,816 --> 01:01:56,173 I'm sorry, not everyone can be perfect like you. 1228 01:01:56,215 --> 01:01:57,449 It's not perfect. 1229 01:01:59,716 --> 01:02:02,641 I still can't look at myself in the mirror 1230 01:02:02,683 --> 01:02:04,173 because I still see the body I used to have. 1231 01:02:04,215 --> 01:02:06,173 That can't be erased. 1232 01:02:06,215 --> 01:02:08,908 These shoulders, these hands, this voice. 1233 01:02:08,950 --> 01:02:10,674 I hate so much of me, there. 1234 01:02:10,716 --> 01:02:12,807 You just need to put yourself out there. 1235 01:02:12,849 --> 01:02:14,574 Like tonight, I saw what you did with Martin. 1236 01:02:14,616 --> 01:02:15,574 Okay, no wait a minute. 1237 01:02:15,616 --> 01:02:17,073 He was ready to ask you out 1238 01:02:17,115 --> 01:02:18,540 and you completely shut him down. 1239 01:02:18,582 --> 01:02:20,208 It's not that simple, okay? 1240 01:02:20,250 --> 01:02:22,073 This is probably why your last relationship failed, 1241 01:02:22,115 --> 01:02:24,841 because you ruin everything that's good in your life. 1242 01:02:24,883 --> 01:02:28,082 If you must know, Mark wanted to have children, 1243 01:02:29,816 --> 01:02:31,574 and I could not give that to him. 1244 01:02:31,616 --> 01:02:34,407 So it seemed unfair for us to stay together. 1245 01:02:34,449 --> 01:02:35,741 And I made the difficult choice to. 1246 01:02:35,783 --> 01:02:38,607 At least I tried. 1247 01:02:38,649 --> 01:02:40,607 You, you just gave up and settled. 1248 01:02:40,649 --> 01:02:42,974 I mean, how is married life, Naomi? 1249 01:02:43,015 --> 01:02:44,540 Are you giving me marriage advice? 1250 01:02:44,582 --> 01:02:46,107 This is coming from the woman 1251 01:02:46,149 --> 01:02:47,174 who's had like one relationship in the last 10 years. 1252 01:02:47,216 --> 01:02:49,774 Okay, so just because you don't like a few things, 1253 01:02:49,816 --> 01:02:50,741 you're gonna write off your whole marriage, your family. 1254 01:02:50,783 --> 01:02:52,540 No, no, you're the one who writes things off 1255 01:02:52,582 --> 01:02:54,107 and you're the one who walks away 1256 01:02:54,149 --> 01:02:55,007 and you're the one who, who leaves relationships, okay? 1257 01:02:55,049 --> 01:02:56,707 - Because- - Oh for fuck's sake, 1258 01:02:56,749 --> 01:02:58,607 just let it go already! 1259 01:02:58,649 --> 01:03:01,540 People break up every day 1260 01:03:01,582 --> 01:03:03,141 and move on with their fucking lives. 1261 01:03:03,183 --> 01:03:05,208 Why can't you? 1262 01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:07,941 You decided to live in Chandler. 1263 01:03:07,983 --> 01:03:10,474 You decided to get married and have children. 1264 01:03:10,516 --> 01:03:12,115 So don't blame me for your fucking failure of a life! 1265 01:03:17,183 --> 01:03:18,115 I was pregnant. 1266 01:03:28,449 --> 01:03:28,816 What? 1267 01:03:34,616 --> 01:03:36,716 I, when I started to miss my period, 1268 01:03:38,616 --> 01:03:40,507 I didn't want to believe it. 1269 01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:41,440 I mean the last thing I wanted to believe 1270 01:03:41,482 --> 01:03:44,874 was that I was pregnant after. 1271 01:03:44,916 --> 01:03:49,208 So I took a test 'cause I was getting sick in the mornings 1272 01:03:49,250 --> 01:03:51,582 and smelling my paints was bothering me. 1273 01:03:55,417 --> 01:03:58,474 I was dealing with our breakup and- 1274 01:03:58,516 --> 01:04:00,375 - What did you do? 1275 01:04:00,417 --> 01:04:01,816 I felt like I didn't have a choice, 1276 01:04:04,317 --> 01:04:07,183 so I decided not to keep it. 1277 01:04:11,116 --> 01:04:13,449 And that was the single hardest... 1278 01:04:22,783 --> 01:04:23,482 I, 1279 01:04:25,183 --> 01:04:25,716 had a child? 1280 01:04:29,716 --> 01:04:30,183 I had a child. 1281 01:04:36,183 --> 01:04:36,716 You, 1282 01:04:39,350 --> 01:04:42,407 you got a second chance. 1283 01:04:42,449 --> 01:04:43,683 You have two beautiful children. 1284 01:04:49,549 --> 01:04:51,275 How was I supposed to know 1285 01:04:51,317 --> 01:04:54,275 that you weren't able to have a child, okay? 1286 01:04:54,317 --> 01:04:56,507 You didn't tell me about this. 1287 01:04:56,549 --> 01:04:58,208 This wasn't something that we discussed. 1288 01:04:58,250 --> 01:05:00,074 This made sense to me, okay? 1289 01:05:00,116 --> 01:05:01,674 Fuck you. 1290 01:05:01,716 --> 01:05:03,440 This is so much bigger than you. 1291 01:05:03,482 --> 01:05:05,540 Fuck. 1292 01:05:05,582 --> 01:05:05,940 This is so much bigger than, enough! 1293 01:05:05,982 --> 01:05:07,141 Fuck you! 1294 01:05:07,183 --> 01:05:07,741 You didn't have the right! 1295 01:05:07,783 --> 01:05:09,008 I had every fucking right! 1296 01:05:09,050 --> 01:05:09,440 It was inside of me, it was a part of me, 1297 01:05:09,482 --> 01:05:11,407 and I'm the one who gave it up! 1298 01:05:11,449 --> 01:05:13,540 You just wanted a way out. 1299 01:05:13,582 --> 01:05:17,008 An excuse for why your life is so shitty. 1300 01:05:17,050 --> 01:05:19,807 You're just now trying to hurt me one last time. 1301 01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:23,507 You did all of this for yourself, Naomi. 1302 01:05:23,549 --> 01:05:25,474 No, I told you because I wanted you to know 1303 01:05:25,516 --> 01:05:26,582 what you did to me. 1304 01:05:30,417 --> 01:05:31,616 You want to know why? 1305 01:05:34,848 --> 01:05:35,915 Your life isn't that fucking tragic. 1306 01:05:38,183 --> 01:05:39,275 They are plenty of places, 1307 01:05:39,317 --> 01:05:41,341 there are plenty of people 1308 01:05:41,383 --> 01:05:42,482 who would accept you for who you are. 1309 01:05:45,050 --> 01:05:46,982 But instead you choose to live in some nowhere little town 1310 01:05:49,050 --> 01:05:50,375 and you spout off all this bullshit 1311 01:05:50,417 --> 01:05:52,507 about rainbows and sunshine. 1312 01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:53,716 How everything is so great. 1313 01:05:56,050 --> 01:05:59,449 But really on the inside you're the same. 1314 01:06:01,216 --> 01:06:02,549 You're a fucking coward. 1315 01:06:04,516 --> 01:06:06,074 You just run for the exit 1316 01:06:06,116 --> 01:06:06,949 any time life rears its ugly little head. 1317 01:06:08,616 --> 01:06:09,216 Here's the truth. 1318 01:06:11,482 --> 01:06:15,449 You are never going to be a mother. 1319 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:22,482 'Cause you can't unfuck what you did to our relationship. 1320 01:06:28,882 --> 01:06:32,016 So you're never gonna be a real woman. 1321 01:06:35,848 --> 01:06:36,983 Not in the way you want to be. 1322 01:06:42,216 --> 01:06:42,815 Your always gonna be incomplete. 1323 01:06:48,983 --> 01:06:50,749 You're the one with the sad life story. 1324 01:06:55,716 --> 01:06:57,582 I know you want to point that finger to everyone else. 1325 01:06:59,649 --> 01:07:03,773 Your students, your failed marriage, 1326 01:07:03,815 --> 01:07:05,815 your responsibilities, me. 1327 01:07:10,683 --> 01:07:11,748 But you have no one to blame except yourself. 1328 01:07:14,482 --> 01:07:17,141 I may have spent the last 15 years 1329 01:07:17,183 --> 01:07:19,141 rebuilding my life from the ground up, 1330 01:07:19,183 --> 01:07:22,707 but I still have more to show than you. 1331 01:07:22,748 --> 01:07:24,516 Now that's pathetic. 1332 01:07:27,983 --> 01:07:28,983 It's no wonder you don't perform anymore. 1333 01:07:31,116 --> 01:07:31,549 You can't. 1334 01:07:34,683 --> 01:07:36,074 Because that would require you to take a long, 1335 01:07:36,116 --> 01:07:37,308 hard, look at yourself in the mirror, 1336 01:07:37,350 --> 01:07:40,108 because as you always said, 1337 01:07:40,150 --> 01:07:41,549 "Art requires truth." 1338 01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:48,540 And you haven't had any truth in your life 1339 01:07:48,582 --> 01:07:50,050 for a very, very long time. 1340 01:08:26,383 --> 01:08:27,116 Thank you for coming everyone. 1341 01:08:29,250 --> 01:08:29,649 This is for Kris. 1342 01:09:18,916 --> 01:09:22,874 For your tiny hands caressed you honest cheek. 1343 01:09:22,916 --> 01:09:26,407 For your sleepy eyes looked upon the crescent moon. 1344 01:09:26,449 --> 01:09:29,774 It seems like. 1345 01:09:29,816 --> 01:09:33,774 Before your happy smile and sunshine through dark places, 1346 01:09:33,816 --> 01:09:36,640 the whole world waited for you to change it. 1347 01:10:06,250 --> 01:10:10,050 Before your soft feet hopped upon the morning grass. 1348 01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:16,108 Before your silky hair danced with an autumn breeze. 1349 01:10:16,150 --> 01:10:18,615 Before your curious mind daydreamed of new beginnings. 1350 01:10:20,983 --> 01:10:23,116 The whole world still waited for you to change it. 1351 01:10:25,783 --> 01:10:27,774 It did. 1352 01:10:27,816 --> 01:10:28,749 It was waiting for you to change it. 1353 01:10:34,516 --> 01:10:35,050 Ah. 1354 01:11:59,883 --> 01:12:00,783 You're so good with the kids. 1355 01:12:03,317 --> 01:12:04,448 When are you gonna have some of your own? 1356 01:12:07,548 --> 01:12:08,916 I don't know if I will. 1357 01:12:12,749 --> 01:12:13,783 Maybe that's okay. 1358 01:12:25,417 --> 01:12:26,016 They're adorable. 1359 01:12:47,050 --> 01:12:47,481 On guard! 1360 01:13:09,898 --> 01:13:14,898 Provided by explosiveskull https://twitter.com/kaboomskull