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[ "Call to Post" plays ]
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♪
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Hoppert: I've covered
horse racing for 17 years.
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There's a saying that I love
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that says, "A racehorse
is the only animal
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that can take a thousand people
for a ride at once."
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Announcer:
And they're off!
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Hoppert:
And it's so true.
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You could hear
the hooves thundering.
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It's. like, almost like
your heart is beating fast
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with the horse.
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You feel like
you're on the horse.
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Like you're in it.
It's a battle.
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♪
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It's the most exciting
two minutes in sports.
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Announcer:
And they're off...
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Antonucci: You're watching
the brilliances of the colors,
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the speed, the energy.
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Its beautiful chaos.
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Watching them race
is almost mesmerizing.
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Their athleticism. Their speed.
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Lynn: It's a beautiful sport,
and I think
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when it's done the right way,
there's nothing like it.
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It's the best.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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Man: And tens of thousands
of fans are getting ready
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for the horse racing's biggest
race, the Kentucky Derby.
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Anything can happen, so we're
watching it very closely indeed.
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Hoppert:
What happened surrounding
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the 2023 Kentucky Derby
this year, um, it was bad.
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It was really bad.
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[ Indistinct shouting ]
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[ Announcer
speaking indistinctly ]
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Woman:
This is race 5 this afternoon.
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That's Take Charge Briana
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who falls to the ground.
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The horse had to be euthanized.
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That is four total
since last Thursday.
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An eighth horse has died
at Churchill Downs.
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Race 2, horse number 9.
Just behind us here.
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Hoppert: In all, 12 horses died
at Churchill Downs,
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including two trained
by the same trainer
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collapsed within days,
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and it really just
got worse from there.
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Woman: The horse's death hours
before the Preakness Stakes.
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Man: And all this comes
as there have been a litany
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of recent thoroughbred deaths
that are under investigation.
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Drape: Horses dying in clusters
is not a new phenomenon.
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It's just now people
are paying attention
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and want to know why.
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Announcer: And it's
the New York-bred wonder
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Maple Leaf Mel!
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[ Crowd groans ]
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Man: He went down
right at the wire.
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Woman: This is a very sad
state of events there.
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Man: Has many questioning
the sport itself.
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Woman: Enough about
calling this a sport.
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Man:
They are drugged and doped.
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It's simple animal exploitation,
animal cruelty,
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and animal killing,
and it has to end.
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Man: It's hard to explain
dead racehorses, really.
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We got to get rid of
the bad actors in the sport,
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and we've got to get rid of
all these drugs.
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Woman: More than two dozen
people are now charged
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in an international scheme
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to drug horses
to make them race faster.
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Woman:
There's a genuine feeling
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that this is
the inflection point,
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and if we don't act,
it may be too late.
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Motion: But he's also-- he was
coming off a two-mile race,
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so I think he was
a little confused.
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I'm hoping that
staying up here,
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it might freshen him up
a little bit.
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Motion: I've been in the
business training my own horses
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for about 30 years.
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Man: What do you love
about thoroughbred racing
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in particular?
The horses.
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The way horse racing works
is an owner
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will approach me
about training a horse
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that perhaps
he's purchased or bred.
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I will then prepare the horses
for a race.
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12 and 3.
That's really good, guys.
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12 and 3.
Just stay together, now.
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Ultimately, the best way
to train a horse
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is get on him yourself, right?
But I'm too heavy.
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So I am very much looking
for my riders to tell me
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how the horse is doing.
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Because the horses
can't talk, right?
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They can't tell me
what's wrong with them.
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That's my job.
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So I've got to figure out
if they've got a problem
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before they hurt themselves.
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Good job, guys.
Well done.
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We feel scrutiny every day.
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I feel scrutiny
in everything I do.
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When that horse
leaves the paddock
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to go onto the racetrack,
whatever happens to that horse,
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I put him out there, right?
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How are you?
Good to see you.
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I've told the jockey
what to do.
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So it's my responsibility.
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Yeah, I would just
be patient, right?
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Yeah, I'm gonna break,
and then I'll...
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Yeah.
Just be patient.
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Get him in
a good spot.
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You got him, Alice?
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- Yeah.
- Good luck.
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Arthur: I think it was
Winston Churchill said
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that looking
into a horse's eyes
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is good for the soul of a man,
something like that.
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They're smart animals.
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They're graceful, beautiful.
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They're brave creatures.
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Bold.
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And America was founded
with horses.
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Motion: I mean, horse racing
goes back centuries, and it was
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always about "my horse is faster
than your horse," right?
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That was the sport of it.
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It started as a sporting
pastime for the wealthy.
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It was called
the sport of kings.
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And, you know, you had
the Secretariats of the world.
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Arthur:
With horses like Seabiscuit.
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Announcer:
Seabiscuit is the winner!
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Hoppert: The Kentucky Derby
is the oldest
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continuously held sporting event
in the United States.
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The Twin Spires,
the mint juleps...
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people in hats
and pretty dresses.
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It oozes... history.
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Arthur: In the old days, you
had a lot of private stables.
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People raised their own horses
for the most part.
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Then it became more of
a commercial game,
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more of a business.
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The emphasis was on making
money rather than being a sport.
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Finley: So, the thoroughbred
industry in North America
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is over $50 billion a year.
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So, sales, the racetracks,
and the gambling.
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One of the biggest industries
in the entire world.
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Arthur:
And there's a lot of money
in winning these big stakes.
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Announcer: Animal Kingdom
to win the Derby!
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So, what sort of happened
to the game
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to change it a little bit is
the rise of the super trainer.
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Basically, a super trainer
is a franchise.
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They have 200 horses.
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They have three or four horses
in each of the big races.
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It's Chad Brown.
It's Todd Pletcher.
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Bob Baffert.
You know, Steve Asmussen.
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They get the majority
of the good horses.
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They have huge stables.
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Super trainers--
they're making millions
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on the racetrack.
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Announcer: And a second Kentucky
Derby for Todd Pletcher!
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Bob Baffert gets yet another
chance at a Triple Crown!
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Hoppert:
A trainer like Bob Baffert--
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in his career,
his horses have made
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almost $350 million
on the racetrack.
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Yeah, I think it's changed
inasmuch as
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the purses have increased,
which, of course,
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makes the racing
more competitive.
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Announcer: They're off!
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Drape: I've been covering
horse racing for 25 years,
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and I've seen really the money
and the economics just balloon.
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It's a "win now" culture.
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And, you know, I'm afraid that
it's eclipsed the culture of
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"let's care for
our horses first."
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Man: Beautiful horse.
Woman: Mm-hmm.
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Wow.
He's pretty textbook.
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I mean, he's...
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I mean, he's probably
gonna be turf, though.
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But that's okay.
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- Great-minded horse, huh?
- Mm-hmm.
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Man: Yeah, so we're just
looking at kind of
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how they strike us coming out.
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Like, there's no perfect horse,
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but you're trying
to identify the ones
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that are gonna stay healthy,
stay sound.
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Very nice.
Thank you, Diego.
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Thank you.
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Got one more.
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Hoppert:
The Saratoga Sale--
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it's a premier event as far
as horse auctions go.
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Beyond the pedigree,
I'm looking for an individual
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that shows athleticism,
has a great walk,
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has a great hip,
and really has a great mind.
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We try to find
the next best superstar.
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[ Indistinct conversations ]
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Man: Ladies and gentlemen,
it's our pleasure
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to begin the 102nd
Saratoga Sale.
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Arthur:
They're buying a dream.
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They might be buying
Secretariat. You never know.
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We're guessing. You don't know.
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[ Auctioneer calling ]
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Ramsey:
The bidding is ferocious.
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You kind of put your money
where your mouth is
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and just hope it turns out well.
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[ Auctioneer calling ]
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Hoppert: There could be
a lot of backdoor dealing,
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people teaming up
against others.
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There's ownership groups
that now team up together.
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They call themselves
the "Avengers."
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It's basically Bob Baffert,
Donato Lanni,
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Sol Kumin,
who's a hedge-fund manager.
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The way that they
approach the game
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is that they pool
all their money together
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and they can buy more horses,
better horses for less price.
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It's run like a business.
It's run like a hedge fund.
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Lynn:
The ambiance is great.
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Everybody's there to look
at horses and buy horses.
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Bidding's exciting.
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You can get a little swept
away in the--
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in the fury, if you will.
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[ Auctioneer calling ]
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$500,000...thank you.
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Lynn: It's a stressful time,
but it's an exciting time
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because it's a lot
of the bottom line
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for people that have bred
and raised the horses.
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This is a cowgirl's
hope chest.
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So, um, this was
Havnameltdown's halter,
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and Bob sent it back to me
after his last race.
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So, that's his mom.
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[ Clears throat ]
This is him as a yearling.
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This is his lineage.
It's all speed.
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This horse was like a bullet.
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He was. He was bred to run.
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I've been breeding horses.
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My first baby, I think,
when I was 22.
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So a long time.
[ Laughs ]
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But it's something
you fall in love with.
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I mean, there's nothing like it.
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And the babies know you
when they come out
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because they've heard you
in the belly talking to mama.
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[ Smooching ]
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Come here. Come on.
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He was my baby.
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He, um...
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Like, the second day
he was born,
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there was a ball
out in the field,
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and he grabbed it,
you know, and threw it.
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And he took off after it.
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Babies at two days old
don't do that, you know?
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He was just
a very different horse.
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I knew he was special.
Eat it up, buddy!
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He was Dennis the Menace,
you know?
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He would get up to the bucket
and eat.
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He's just pushing
his mama,
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trying to get her
out of the way.
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And he would turn around
and put his butt in the bucket
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so she couldn't eat
till he got through chewing.
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He was a naughty teenager.
He really was.
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And he was always happy,
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and he was very trusting
with humans.
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Mommy's so proud of you.
You're so handsome.
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So when he got ready
to leave,
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I said a little prayer that,
you know,
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"Be with him
and don't put him anywhere
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that he's not gonna
be treated good."
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So, this picture right here
was from back in March.
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And that's Bob and the three
owners, the "Three Amigos."
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When I met Bob,
I was, like, starstruck.
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I had shown Bob horses
for years.
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He came to see the horse.
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When Bob looked at that run,
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he said, "That's what
we want right there.
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Look at what his body's doing.
Look how easy he's doing it."
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He wasn't even out of breath.
Like, it was nothing to him.
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And everybody at the track
was talking about him,
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that he was gonna be
the next Juvenile champion.
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It's a dream to have
Bob Baffert train for you.
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I'm just a little breeder.
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You know, I've never had
more than five mares
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that were just mine.
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That's like a little girl's
fairy tale right there.
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Like Cinderella.
It's Bob Baffert.
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Announcer:
And away they go!
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Mister Iceman broke smartly,
294
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but now there goes
Havnameltdown.
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Havnameltdown very fast,
gets the lead.
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Havnameltdown gives
Juan Fernandez
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another stakes win.
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Announcer: They're off
in the Bob Hope Stakes!
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Havnameltdown kept it all
together in the Bob Hope!
300
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Havnameltdown makes
short work of the competition
301
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to win the San Vicente.
302
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Devall: We bought the mare
and bred her
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for less than $7,000,
304
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and he won $708,000.
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It was exciting.
306
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Bob's so smart
with these horses.
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He's one of the best
in the world, you know?
308
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And they just--
It just keeps on and keeps on.
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It's ridiculous.
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Baffert: I grew up on a ranch
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and I never thought
of being a horse trainer.
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I wanted to be a jockey first,
and I was just too big.
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I didn't make the weight.
314
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I started training
Quarter Horses.
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I was never really
around a trainer,
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so I was, like, self-taught.
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I won a little derby, and that
really started my-- my roll.
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Once it gets in your blood,
you just want to--
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The competitive spirit comes out
that we all have.
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And so basically
I just was hooked
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from day one on the racing.
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♪
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Finley: Bob Baffert is really
the face of our industry.
324
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You go anywhere and you say
you're in the horse business,
325
00:15:04,338 --> 00:15:06,774
and they say, "What about
the guy with the white hair?"
326
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The most recognizable figure
in horse racing.
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Man: His horses have won
hundreds of millions of dollars.
328
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He has had a long
and storied career.
329
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Wallace:
And the media cover his horses
330
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like movie stars
on the red carpet.
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If you want to get a horse
to the Kentucky Derby,
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he is the man.
He knows what he's doing.
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♪
334
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Hoppert: He's won six
Kentucky Derbies,
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a record eight Preakness Stakes,
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three Belmont Stakes,
337
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two Triple Crowns.
338
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It's unheard of.
339
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Papp: However,
for every good thing
340
00:15:39,740 --> 00:15:42,676
that has come
from Bob Baffert's barn,
341
00:15:42,676 --> 00:15:46,513
there seems to be
a rash of bad things.
342
00:15:46,513 --> 00:15:49,817
Drape: Since 2000,
Bob Baffert's fatality rate
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00:15:49,817 --> 00:15:52,586
is about seven deaths
per thousand starts,
344
00:15:52,586 --> 00:15:55,556
which makes him one of
the deadliest trainers
in California.
345
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Arthur:
The record speaks for itself.
346
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The drug violations are there.
347
00:16:01,595 --> 00:16:04,498
Hoppert:
From 2011 to 2013,
348
00:16:04,498 --> 00:16:07,167
Bob Baffert had
seven horses drop dead,
349
00:16:07,167 --> 00:16:09,703
and while no cause could
be determined by investigators,
350
00:16:09,703 --> 00:16:11,505
it came out later he was giving
351
00:16:11,505 --> 00:16:15,109
every horse under his care
thyroid medicine.
352
00:16:15,109 --> 00:16:19,380
He's had at least 30 medication
violations in four decades.
353
00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:22,516
He's had very high-profile
medication violations,
354
00:16:22,516 --> 00:16:25,786
including one for his
Triple Crown winner Justify.
355
00:16:25,786 --> 00:16:27,421
Man:
Justify failed a drug test
356
00:16:27,421 --> 00:16:29,657
that would have made
the horse ineligible
357
00:16:29,657 --> 00:16:32,426
for the Kentucky Derby.
358
00:16:32,426 --> 00:16:36,730
Drape: Bob Baffert's record
with drug tests is pretty long,
359
00:16:36,730 --> 00:16:38,699
but he wins a lot of big races
360
00:16:38,699 --> 00:16:40,668
and he makes a lot
of people money.
361
00:16:40,668 --> 00:16:44,638
And that's ultimately what
horse racing has become--
362
00:16:44,638 --> 00:16:47,341
a money grab.
363
00:16:47,341 --> 00:16:49,810
Hoppert:
When a trainer gets fined
364
00:16:49,810 --> 00:16:52,046
for a positive drug test,
365
00:16:52,046 --> 00:16:54,181
it's a few thousand dollars.
366
00:16:54,181 --> 00:16:56,216
And in the grand scheme
of things,
367
00:16:56,216 --> 00:16:59,219
I mean, they're making millions
of dollars at these horse races.
368
00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:00,788
So what is a couple
thousand dollars?
369
00:17:00,788 --> 00:17:03,223
It's a drop in the bucket.
370
00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:05,759
It's not a deterrent.
371
00:17:05,759 --> 00:17:08,562
Medina Spirit, the horse
that won the Kentucky Derby,
372
00:17:08,562 --> 00:17:11,231
has failed a drug test.
373
00:17:11,231 --> 00:17:13,467
Drape:
In 2021, Medina Spirit,
374
00:17:13,467 --> 00:17:15,236
trained by Bob Baffert,
375
00:17:15,236 --> 00:17:18,572
won the Kentucky Derby
and later was disqualified.
376
00:17:18,572 --> 00:17:20,574
Baffert says,
once again,
377
00:17:20,574 --> 00:17:24,411
he never gave that drug
to Medina Spirit.
378
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,146
Baffert: This is gonna
just do me in.
379
00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:28,215
It's just bullshit, and I'm--
380
00:17:28,215 --> 00:17:29,783
I don't-- I don't know
what to say to you guys,
381
00:17:29,783 --> 00:17:33,787
but somebody made a mistake--
in the lab or whatever.
382
00:17:33,787 --> 00:17:36,257
Betamethasone.
We don't touch that.
383
00:17:36,257 --> 00:17:39,426
We don't use any ointments.
This is just-- I'm in shock.
384
00:17:39,426 --> 00:17:42,129
I cannot believe I have to
go through this crap again.
385
00:17:42,129 --> 00:17:44,531
♪
386
00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:47,201
Hoppert: When Medina Spirit
tested positive,
387
00:17:47,201 --> 00:17:49,103
Churchill Downs
had just been fed up.
388
00:17:49,103 --> 00:17:50,738
They just had enough.
389
00:17:50,738 --> 00:17:52,706
I don't believe
there had been a positive test
390
00:17:52,706 --> 00:17:55,576
in the Derby since 1968.
391
00:17:55,576 --> 00:17:59,313
We needed to take action because
we actually run a racetrack.
392
00:17:59,313 --> 00:18:00,681
We have to make sure
that our product
393
00:18:00,681 --> 00:18:02,483
is fair and that it's safe.
394
00:18:02,483 --> 00:18:05,319
Man: Churchill Downs cracking
down, releasing a bombshell.
395
00:18:05,319 --> 00:18:07,655
The best-known name
in the sport of horse racing
396
00:18:07,655 --> 00:18:10,424
is now suspended for two years
from the Louisville track.
397
00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,126
Baffert: You know,
I think it was just a knee-jerk,
398
00:18:12,126 --> 00:18:14,762
"cancel culture"
kind of reaction.
399
00:18:14,762 --> 00:18:17,631
Now I have to fight this
in the public.
400
00:18:17,631 --> 00:18:19,667
Drape:
When Churchill Downs suspended
401
00:18:19,667 --> 00:18:21,569
Bob Baffert for two years,
402
00:18:21,569 --> 00:18:24,505
this was probably the
two most powerful figures
403
00:18:24,505 --> 00:18:26,774
in horse racing
going head to head,
404
00:18:26,774 --> 00:18:29,810
and Churchill basically
decided it was their racetrack
405
00:18:29,810 --> 00:18:32,713
and he was not welcomed back.
406
00:18:32,713 --> 00:18:36,150
Seven months after
Medina Spirit won the Derby,
407
00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:38,385
he dropped dead
at Santa Anita Park.
408
00:18:38,385 --> 00:18:40,354
Nobody knows why.
409
00:18:40,354 --> 00:18:43,290
♪
410
00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:45,192
Man: And Bob Baffert
is back at the Preakness
411
00:18:45,192 --> 00:18:48,128
for his first Triple Crown race
in two years.
412
00:18:48,128 --> 00:18:50,097
Woman: Bob, we're really glad
to have you back here.
413
00:18:50,097 --> 00:18:51,432
What does it feel like to
be back here in Maryland
414
00:18:51,432 --> 00:18:54,401
for the Preakness?
Oh, I love Baltimore.
415
00:18:54,401 --> 00:18:57,204
Hoppert: This year's Preakness
was Bob's big return
416
00:18:57,204 --> 00:18:58,706
to the Triple Crown stage.
417
00:18:58,706 --> 00:19:00,641
Preakness is a loose vibe.
418
00:19:00,641 --> 00:19:02,543
It's way looser than the Derby.
419
00:19:02,543 --> 00:19:04,111
It's known for the infield
420
00:19:04,111 --> 00:19:08,315
and the large concerts
with big stars.
421
00:19:08,315 --> 00:19:11,518
It's a big party, and people
want to come here, have fun.
422
00:19:11,518 --> 00:19:13,354
Hoppert: So it was supposed
to be a great day for him
423
00:19:13,354 --> 00:19:17,291
in the eyes of, like, "I'm back.
Like, Bob is back."
424
00:19:17,291 --> 00:19:19,627
He's got a very fast colt
named Havnameltdown
425
00:19:19,627 --> 00:19:21,795
in one of the undercard races.
426
00:19:21,795 --> 00:19:23,464
Havnameltdown.
He's a sprinter.
427
00:19:23,464 --> 00:19:25,432
I mean,
I took him to Saudi.
428
00:19:25,432 --> 00:19:29,069
He ran hard. He drew the 1.
He's an extremely fast horse.
429
00:19:29,069 --> 00:19:30,671
Woman: Thank you so much.
That's all I need.
430
00:19:30,671 --> 00:19:33,607
Okay. We got it.
Thank you.
431
00:19:33,607 --> 00:19:36,777
We're back on Stakes action
in the grade-3 Chick Lang.
432
00:19:36,777 --> 00:19:38,812
Talk about
Havnameltdown.
433
00:19:38,812 --> 00:19:42,449
Perry: This horse is probably
the nicest horse in the race.
434
00:19:42,449 --> 00:19:44,385
Man: Pimlico race 6!
435
00:19:44,385 --> 00:19:49,657
They are off and r-r-r-r-acing!
436
00:19:49,657 --> 00:19:52,259
Announcer: Havnameltdown
is right alongside the 2 path,
437
00:19:52,259 --> 00:19:54,495
and Super Chow is tracking
that speed from third.
438
00:19:54,495 --> 00:19:55,763
Bristol Channel is next.
439
00:19:55,763 --> 00:19:57,330
[ Saez speaking Spanish ]
440
00:20:03,070 --> 00:20:05,606
Announcer: 2.23.
Into the far turn they go.
441
00:20:05,606 --> 00:20:08,242
And-- Oh, losing the rider.
Havnameltdown.
442
00:20:08,242 --> 00:20:10,511
Saez down on the ground there.
443
00:20:10,511 --> 00:20:11,412
- Oh, man!
- Oh, no!
444
00:20:11,412 --> 00:20:13,414
Oh, man! He's hurt!
445
00:20:13,414 --> 00:20:16,684
Oh, no! That's Saez!
That was Saez!
446
00:20:16,684 --> 00:20:19,753
Announcer: Havnameltdown has
pulled up here out of the race.
447
00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:38,105
♪
448
00:20:38,105 --> 00:20:40,574
Hoppert: Havnameltdown
clearly suffered
449
00:20:40,574 --> 00:20:44,144
a catastrophic injury.
450
00:20:44,144 --> 00:20:45,679
He's still running.
451
00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:47,481
These horses,
they're born to run.
452
00:20:47,481 --> 00:20:49,550
That's all they know.
And so they keep running.
453
00:20:49,550 --> 00:20:51,552
And you could tell
he was in pain.
454
00:20:51,552 --> 00:20:54,054
♪
455
00:20:54,054 --> 00:20:57,091
And you wait to see-- is there
a tarp, is there no tarp?
456
00:20:57,091 --> 00:20:58,692
And then the tarp goes up,
and you know
457
00:20:58,692 --> 00:21:00,327
they're putting the horse down.
458
00:21:00,327 --> 00:21:03,063
♪
459
00:21:03,063 --> 00:21:04,832
Unfortunately,
Havnameltdown
460
00:21:04,832 --> 00:21:08,269
suffered a-- an injury
of his left front ankle
461
00:21:08,269 --> 00:21:10,204
to such an extent that they
couldn't do anything for him
462
00:21:10,204 --> 00:21:13,073
and he had to be
humanely euthanized.
463
00:21:13,073 --> 00:21:16,042
Man: Not the news that
anyone wanted to hear.
464
00:21:17,144 --> 00:21:18,579
[ Bell rings ]
465
00:21:18,579 --> 00:21:21,415
Announcer:
They're off in the Preakness!
466
00:21:21,415 --> 00:21:23,617
It was a very good start
for National Treasure today.
467
00:21:23,617 --> 00:21:25,219
Mage came out pretty well...
468
00:21:25,219 --> 00:21:28,455
Drape: Last year,
Havnameltdown gets euthanized.
469
00:21:28,455 --> 00:21:30,291
A couple races later,
470
00:21:30,291 --> 00:21:33,227
Baffert wins the main event,
the Preakness Stakes.
471
00:21:33,227 --> 00:21:34,695
Announcer:
And they're into the sprint!
472
00:21:34,695 --> 00:21:37,698
It's gonna be
National Treasure!
473
00:21:37,698 --> 00:21:39,600
And Bob Baffert
has won his eighth one!
474
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,269
Drape: Horse racing
can move on quickly.
475
00:21:42,269 --> 00:21:46,206
One minute, you can have a horse
be euthanized on the racetrack,
476
00:21:46,206 --> 00:21:49,743
and an hour or two later,
you have jubilation
477
00:21:49,743 --> 00:21:51,679
after you've taken down
a big purse.
478
00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:53,213
[ Laughter ]
479
00:21:53,213 --> 00:21:55,282
You know,
that isn't great optics
480
00:21:55,282 --> 00:21:59,420
for a sport that is
under siege right now--
481
00:21:59,420 --> 00:22:03,123
and properly so-- for how
they care for their athletes.
482
00:22:03,123 --> 00:22:04,592
To win this, it's--
483
00:22:04,592 --> 00:22:06,327
Losing that horse today
really hurt.
484
00:22:06,327 --> 00:22:09,563
But it's been
a very emotional day.
485
00:22:09,563 --> 00:22:12,232
♪
486
00:22:12,232 --> 00:22:17,304
I was sad, but I know
that I was very proud of...
487
00:22:17,304 --> 00:22:19,240
how strong he was.
488
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,575
♪
489
00:22:21,575 --> 00:22:23,277
I'm still sad, you know,
490
00:22:23,277 --> 00:22:26,080
but it's-- it's something
that happens.
491
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,382
♪
492
00:22:28,382 --> 00:22:31,752
So...
493
00:22:31,752 --> 00:22:33,621
No, I've never had it
happen before,
494
00:22:33,621 --> 00:22:36,290
but I'd never run with the
big boys like this, you know?
495
00:22:36,290 --> 00:22:38,425
And I think,
in my heart of hearts,
496
00:22:38,425 --> 00:22:40,094
I knew that's what
he loved to do.
497
00:22:40,094 --> 00:22:42,763
Like, that was his
everyday thing, you know,
498
00:22:42,763 --> 00:22:45,432
to get out of his stall
and go run.
499
00:22:45,432 --> 00:22:47,234
♪
500
00:22:47,234 --> 00:22:50,170
So I was good until
I picked it up and smelled it.
501
00:22:50,170 --> 00:22:52,206
Then I just cried.
502
00:22:52,206 --> 00:22:54,174
It smells just like him. Yeah.
503
00:22:54,174 --> 00:22:58,245
♪
504
00:22:58,245 --> 00:23:00,347
Bob called me.
505
00:23:00,347 --> 00:23:02,049
You know, he was like,
"I'm so sorry."
506
00:23:02,049 --> 00:23:04,118
He goes,
"We are all, like, distraught.
507
00:23:04,118 --> 00:23:06,687
Like, we're devastated."
508
00:23:06,687 --> 00:23:08,689
It's a hard conversation
to have.
509
00:23:08,689 --> 00:23:10,491
You know, you don't want that
to happen to your horse,
510
00:23:10,491 --> 00:23:13,494
but who are you gonna blame?
511
00:23:13,494 --> 00:23:16,130
You can't blame that trainer.
512
00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:18,499
It was an accident!
513
00:23:18,499 --> 00:23:21,167
It's just things that happen.
514
00:23:27,174 --> 00:23:28,175
Man: This tape
was recorded on location
515
00:23:28,175 --> 00:23:30,110
at the 46th Annual Convention
516
00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:33,480
of the American Association
of Equine Practitioners.
517
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,282
Baffert:
And we were always told,
518
00:23:35,282 --> 00:23:37,251
I know as a young age--
519
00:23:37,251 --> 00:23:39,653
that when you-- when you
cortisone'd a horse,
520
00:23:39,653 --> 00:23:41,422
injected their joints
or whatever,
521
00:23:41,422 --> 00:23:43,424
it was, like, super taboo.
522
00:23:43,424 --> 00:23:46,427
I mean, you do that,
you're gonna ruin your horse.
523
00:23:46,427 --> 00:23:49,663
When you start competing
at that higher level,
524
00:23:49,663 --> 00:23:52,299
you don't have
the convenience of,
525
00:23:52,299 --> 00:23:54,301
"Well, we're just gonna give
him a couple of weeks off."
526
00:23:54,301 --> 00:23:57,738
You have to go, go, go,
and this is when the trainer
527
00:23:57,738 --> 00:24:01,108
and the veterinarian
have to have this bond.
528
00:24:01,108 --> 00:24:04,178
Realize that, you know,
if done properly,
529
00:24:04,178 --> 00:24:06,380
you can keep these horses
around for a long time.
530
00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:09,450
♪
531
00:24:09,450 --> 00:24:11,619
[ Indistinct conversations ]
532
00:24:11,619 --> 00:24:14,054
Papp: That's good.
533
00:24:14,054 --> 00:24:18,225
Hoppert: Horses are athletes,
and athletes require care.
534
00:24:18,225 --> 00:24:20,294
♪
535
00:24:20,294 --> 00:24:25,199
They have sore bodies.
They have injuries that pop up.
536
00:24:25,199 --> 00:24:26,667
Every horse
has to get medicated,
537
00:24:26,667 --> 00:24:29,069
whether it's antibiotics
for a wound,
538
00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:32,373
whether it's bute,
which is like an aspirin.
539
00:24:32,373 --> 00:24:33,707
You're alright.
540
00:24:33,707 --> 00:24:35,342
The question is,
541
00:24:35,342 --> 00:24:38,445
how much medication
is too much medication?
542
00:24:38,445 --> 00:24:41,081
He's good.
543
00:24:41,081 --> 00:24:43,751
Arthur:
The drugs have proliferated.
544
00:24:43,751 --> 00:24:48,622
This culture of pharmaceuticals
has evolved.
545
00:24:48,622 --> 00:24:54,395
When I was a teenager,
I worked for a veterinarian.
546
00:24:54,395 --> 00:24:57,464
The trainers would give me
their drug orders
547
00:24:57,464 --> 00:25:00,267
without doing an examination,
548
00:25:00,267 --> 00:25:04,738
and then we would administer
these drugs to these horses.
549
00:25:04,738 --> 00:25:06,740
Drape: The use of drugs
in horse racing
550
00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:08,609
really picked up in the '80s,
551
00:25:08,609 --> 00:25:10,511
and it was largely
because of the money.
552
00:25:10,511 --> 00:25:12,446
Purses were exploding.
553
00:25:12,446 --> 00:25:14,448
Stallion rights were exploding.
554
00:25:14,448 --> 00:25:16,317
And you saw more horses dying.
555
00:25:16,317 --> 00:25:19,253
There are about 40
so-called therapeutic drugs
556
00:25:19,253 --> 00:25:20,621
that they give them.
557
00:25:20,621 --> 00:25:22,556
The drugs are perfectly legal.
558
00:25:22,556 --> 00:25:26,160
The most common is
phenylbutazone, known as bute.
559
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,262
The trainers say that with the
demands of the racing season,
560
00:25:28,262 --> 00:25:29,830
bute is the only thing
561
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:32,533
that will get the sore horses
out on the track.
562
00:25:32,533 --> 00:25:35,803
Lyons: By treating these horses
continuously
563
00:25:35,803 --> 00:25:40,174
with different anti-inflammatory
and painkilling medications,
564
00:25:40,174 --> 00:25:42,710
you will have masked injury
565
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:46,313
for days or weeks
before a horse races,
566
00:25:46,313 --> 00:25:48,782
and then it puts the horse
at high risk
567
00:25:48,782 --> 00:25:52,453
for significant injury
when it runs.
568
00:25:52,453 --> 00:25:55,122
Woman: Some studies
show a significant increase
569
00:25:55,122 --> 00:25:57,791
in breakdowns since the pre-race
use of phenylbutazone
570
00:25:57,791 --> 00:26:00,094
became legal in 19 states.
571
00:26:00,094 --> 00:26:04,498
Lyons: One of the most abused
drugs today is aspirin.
572
00:26:04,498 --> 00:26:09,703
Some horses are on this
365 days a year.
573
00:26:09,703 --> 00:26:12,473
It's almost being fed
as if it were a supplement.
574
00:26:12,473 --> 00:26:14,408
♪
575
00:26:14,408 --> 00:26:17,177
Today I think we have a system
576
00:26:17,177 --> 00:26:22,216
where the right hand of the
trainer is the veterinarian--
577
00:26:22,216 --> 00:26:26,620
not to make sure that they're
healthy and sound and happy,
578
00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:30,824
but in order to use their tools
579
00:26:30,824 --> 00:26:33,594
to get those horses
to the races.
580
00:26:33,594 --> 00:26:35,796
It's not putting
the horse first.
581
00:26:35,796 --> 00:26:37,765
It's putting the interests
582
00:26:37,765 --> 00:26:40,301
of getting that horse
over to the races,
583
00:26:40,301 --> 00:26:41,802
over and above
584
00:26:41,802 --> 00:26:45,039
the horse's safety,
its well-being.
585
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,640
♪
586
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,309
Hoppert: There's two types
of medications
587
00:26:48,309 --> 00:26:49,743
that you give a racehorse.
588
00:26:49,743 --> 00:26:52,713
There's controlled medications
which are allowed within
589
00:26:52,713 --> 00:26:56,684
a certain time frame of a race
and at certain limits.
590
00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:58,819
And then there's
banned substances--
591
00:26:58,819 --> 00:27:00,321
essentially doping.
592
00:27:00,321 --> 00:27:02,089
Papp:
So, this is a selection of
593
00:27:02,089 --> 00:27:03,824
performance-enhancing
medications,
594
00:27:03,824 --> 00:27:06,260
some of which are
completely prohibited.
595
00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:10,798
Others are commonly still used
but do not test positive.
596
00:27:10,798 --> 00:27:13,534
This here
is the blood doper Epogen.
597
00:27:13,534 --> 00:27:15,803
It's what Lance Armstrong
was using.
598
00:27:15,803 --> 00:27:19,340
It's very difficult to detect
599
00:27:19,340 --> 00:27:22,776
and can take a racehorse
and make them compete
600
00:27:22,776 --> 00:27:27,147
beyond their normal
physiological capacity.
601
00:27:27,147 --> 00:27:29,483
Drape: Over the years,
I've seen everything tried.
602
00:27:29,483 --> 00:27:32,620
Cancer medicines,
diabetes medicines,
603
00:27:32,620 --> 00:27:34,722
cobra venom, frog venom,
604
00:27:34,722 --> 00:27:37,224
cayenne pepper
on their genitals.
605
00:27:37,224 --> 00:27:41,795
Cocaine. Viagra. You name it.
606
00:27:41,795 --> 00:27:43,831
Hoppert: Everybody's looking
for an edge in this game.
607
00:27:43,831 --> 00:27:45,366
Everybody.
608
00:27:45,366 --> 00:27:47,501
You make money when you win,
609
00:27:47,501 --> 00:27:49,470
so you got to keep
your percentage up.
610
00:27:49,470 --> 00:27:51,472
You got to keep winning.
611
00:27:51,472 --> 00:27:53,641
If you're not winning, you're
not getting the best horses.
612
00:27:53,641 --> 00:27:56,110
Your shots of winning again
are going down.
613
00:27:56,110 --> 00:27:57,611
It's a cycle.
614
00:27:57,611 --> 00:27:59,480
♪
615
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,749
Drape: One of the metrics
that you judge performance
616
00:28:01,749 --> 00:28:05,185
in horse racing on
is winning percentage.
617
00:28:05,185 --> 00:28:10,557
Hall-of-fame trainers win
at 15% or 20% per year.
618
00:28:10,557 --> 00:28:14,528
Now we have folks out there
with 30%.
619
00:28:14,528 --> 00:28:17,298
And that raises eyebrows.
620
00:28:17,298 --> 00:28:19,666
♪
621
00:28:43,824 --> 00:28:47,728
♪
622
00:28:47,728 --> 00:28:50,831
Janney: The Jockey Club
was founded in 1894,
623
00:28:50,831 --> 00:28:55,402
and basically, in those days,
there was no other regulation.
624
00:28:55,402 --> 00:28:57,738
So the Jockey Club
stepped in to--
625
00:28:57,738 --> 00:29:01,308
to bring some degree
of regulation into the sport.
626
00:29:01,308 --> 00:29:04,478
Later, there was a court case
627
00:29:04,478 --> 00:29:07,147
that said that was something
628
00:29:07,147 --> 00:29:09,650
the state should do
and not the Jockey Club.
629
00:29:09,650 --> 00:29:12,586
♪
630
00:29:12,586 --> 00:29:14,188
Essentially,
horse racing was governed
631
00:29:14,188 --> 00:29:16,123
on a state-by-state basis,
632
00:29:16,123 --> 00:29:19,727
without any coordination,
any national oversight.
633
00:29:19,727 --> 00:29:23,564
♪
634
00:29:23,564 --> 00:29:26,600
Janney:
Probably 20 years ago,
635
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,104
I started to become concerned
about whether races
636
00:29:30,104 --> 00:29:33,540
were being won with horses
that had been treated with drugs
637
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:36,644
that shouldn't be in them
on race day.
638
00:29:36,644 --> 00:29:39,380
I think,
unlike some other sports,
639
00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:41,682
yes, we were doing more testing
640
00:29:41,682 --> 00:29:44,618
in terms
of actual number of tests,
641
00:29:44,618 --> 00:29:49,089
but the tests were not testing
for that many drugs,
642
00:29:49,089 --> 00:29:52,059
and we were doing
no real checking to see
643
00:29:52,059 --> 00:29:55,062
whether the labs were doing the
job that they should be doing.
644
00:29:55,062 --> 00:29:57,464
♪
645
00:29:57,464 --> 00:30:00,067
Lazarus: Laboratories
weren't harmonized.
646
00:30:00,067 --> 00:30:02,136
So you could have a program
where you're,
647
00:30:02,136 --> 00:30:03,604
you know, you're giving
your horse various treatments
648
00:30:03,604 --> 00:30:05,439
and you might test positive
in Kentucky
649
00:30:05,439 --> 00:30:08,509
but negative in Ohio.
650
00:30:08,509 --> 00:30:11,211
Janney: Too often,
the states were looking for
651
00:30:11,211 --> 00:30:13,514
the least-cost alternative.
652
00:30:13,514 --> 00:30:15,549
And that is not necessarily
653
00:30:15,549 --> 00:30:17,585
how you find people
that are cheating.
654
00:30:17,585 --> 00:30:22,056
♪
655
00:30:22,056 --> 00:30:25,225
In the fall of 2015,
656
00:30:25,225 --> 00:30:29,263
we went out and hired an
independent investigative group
657
00:30:29,263 --> 00:30:32,800
that were ex-FBI, DEA.
658
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,136
The only particular guidance
that we gave them
659
00:30:36,136 --> 00:30:38,305
was we're really interested
in understanding
660
00:30:38,305 --> 00:30:42,376
whether there is corruption at
the higher levels of the sport.
661
00:30:42,376 --> 00:30:44,645
And they came back
in about three weeks
662
00:30:44,645 --> 00:30:46,480
and said, "Well, you know,
663
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,084
we think we found
at least one of the big fish."
664
00:30:50,084 --> 00:30:52,453
That was Seth Fishman,
665
00:30:52,453 --> 00:30:55,055
a vet and a compounder.
666
00:31:05,499 --> 00:31:08,769
He had a rather checkered past
and, in our opinion,
667
00:31:08,769 --> 00:31:12,072
that he was obviously interested
in supplying drugs
668
00:31:12,072 --> 00:31:15,642
to both the trotting and
thoroughbred part of racing.
669
00:31:24,685 --> 00:31:27,488
♪
670
00:31:27,488 --> 00:31:30,224
Drape: In 2015, The Jockey Club
found enough evidence
671
00:31:30,224 --> 00:31:35,062
that was actionable
to take it to the FBI.
672
00:31:35,062 --> 00:31:37,464
Richards:
I had spent 21 years
673
00:31:37,464 --> 00:31:40,801
as a Russian
organized-crime investigator
674
00:31:40,801 --> 00:31:43,270
in the New York City
field office.
675
00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:45,472
You follow murder for hires,
676
00:31:45,472 --> 00:31:49,176
guns, drugs, public corruption,
677
00:31:49,176 --> 00:31:52,046
that type of genre.
678
00:31:52,046 --> 00:31:54,348
We were familiar
with sporting-type cases
679
00:31:54,348 --> 00:31:56,317
throughout the years.
680
00:31:56,317 --> 00:31:58,686
We knew that this wasn't gonna
be an easy investigation,
681
00:31:58,686 --> 00:32:02,523
just to get plugged into the
culture that is around racing.
682
00:32:02,523 --> 00:32:04,124
♪
683
00:32:04,124 --> 00:32:06,460
Seth Fishman
was a person of interest.
684
00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:10,064
He had been in the business
for 20 years,
685
00:32:10,064 --> 00:32:13,734
and he had branched out into
thoroughbreds, standardbreds,
686
00:32:13,734 --> 00:32:15,636
different countries.
687
00:32:15,636 --> 00:32:20,074
So it was-- it was very,
very significant and very large.
688
00:32:20,074 --> 00:32:23,677
But we were not able
to start off on his doorstep.
689
00:32:23,677 --> 00:32:26,347
We were three, four, five steps
removed.
690
00:32:26,347 --> 00:32:29,383
There is no statute
at the federal level
691
00:32:29,383 --> 00:32:32,486
for doping of a racehorse.
692
00:32:32,486 --> 00:32:37,224
So we needed a statute
that we can pursue criminally--
693
00:32:37,224 --> 00:32:39,660
mail fraud, wire fraud,
money laundering.
694
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:44,064
Had to figure out how the money
moved within the industry.
695
00:32:44,064 --> 00:32:46,166
Eventually, we were
fortunate enough
696
00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:48,068
that there were a couple sources
697
00:32:48,068 --> 00:32:51,171
where we could
actually gather evidence
698
00:32:51,171 --> 00:32:53,440
and start to build out the case.
699
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,743
Drape: The FBI was watching
Seth Fishman
700
00:32:55,743 --> 00:32:58,045
and the trainer, Jorge Navarro.
701
00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:02,650
And Jorge Navarro was pretty
notorious for how much he won.
702
00:33:02,650 --> 00:33:04,818
Man: You're on a mission
this year, aren't you?
703
00:33:04,818 --> 00:33:06,353
Navarro:
Oh, he's on a mission.
704
00:33:06,353 --> 00:33:08,555
[ Chuckles ] Listen.
I do what I have to do.
705
00:33:08,555 --> 00:33:11,425
Yes, there's always a question.
Have I done enough?
706
00:33:11,425 --> 00:33:13,593
Right? I guess that's
every trainer question.
707
00:33:31,211 --> 00:33:35,649
Drape: Navarro completely
dominated racing in New Jersey.
708
00:33:35,649 --> 00:33:38,185
He didn't really hide
what he was doing.
709
00:33:38,185 --> 00:33:40,421
He called himself
the "Juice Man."
710
00:33:40,421 --> 00:33:44,391
He had these Crocs that
said "Juice Man" on them.
711
00:33:44,391 --> 00:33:47,394
In 2017,
Navarro was caught on tape
712
00:33:47,394 --> 00:33:50,331
on a racetrack bar
with one of his owners
713
00:33:50,331 --> 00:33:52,499
referring to juicing his horses.
714
00:33:55,302 --> 00:33:57,103
Man: Is that a Navarro?
Is that a Navarro?
715
00:34:01,341 --> 00:34:04,544
The "Juice Man" tape
was unbelievable.
716
00:34:06,246 --> 00:34:08,315
One individual makes
a statement, you know--
717
00:34:08,315 --> 00:34:10,284
"Is that a Navarro?
Is that a Navarro?"
718
00:34:10,284 --> 00:34:11,752
as he's winning.
719
00:34:11,752 --> 00:34:13,187
You're looking at it,
and you're thinking,
720
00:34:13,187 --> 00:34:15,389
"Are these guys
really that stupid
721
00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:19,093
to be caught like that
out in the open?"
722
00:34:19,093 --> 00:34:22,129
And then the whole undertone
with that is,
723
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:23,464
"Well, nobody cares.
724
00:34:23,464 --> 00:34:25,432
It's just racing.
725
00:34:25,432 --> 00:34:27,768
Just the way it is."
726
00:34:27,768 --> 00:34:30,771
Drape: The FBI
had inside information,
727
00:34:30,771 --> 00:34:33,674
so in order to prove
their information was correct,
728
00:34:33,674 --> 00:34:38,045
they went undercover and took
samples of all these horses.
729
00:34:38,045 --> 00:34:42,383
I would come in
as a Race Commission employee,
730
00:34:42,383 --> 00:34:45,386
and we would designate
what horses we wanted to test,
731
00:34:45,386 --> 00:34:47,354
we'd draw the samples,
and send them off to Hong Kong
732
00:34:47,354 --> 00:34:49,223
and started getting results.
733
00:34:49,223 --> 00:34:51,625
The Hong Kong Jockey Club
was explained to me
734
00:34:51,625 --> 00:34:55,696
as the number-one lab in the
world for this type of testing.
735
00:34:55,696 --> 00:34:57,564
The level of accreditation
was at the top.
736
00:34:57,564 --> 00:35:00,601
They had the ability
and the money
737
00:35:00,601 --> 00:35:03,169
that was needed
to do that type of testing.
738
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,742
The labs in the U.S.
739
00:35:08,742 --> 00:35:11,579
were very capable of finding
certain substances
740
00:35:11,579 --> 00:35:14,715
as long as they know
what they're looking for.
741
00:35:14,715 --> 00:35:16,317
But if they didn't have a test
742
00:35:16,317 --> 00:35:18,552
that was made for the substance,
743
00:35:18,552 --> 00:35:20,120
there's no way
they could find it.
744
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,623
Our test results, we came back
745
00:35:22,623 --> 00:35:25,526
with positives
approximately 40% of the time.
746
00:35:25,526 --> 00:35:28,095
Those tests
were proof of concept.
747
00:35:28,095 --> 00:35:30,631
As the investigation
was proceeding,
748
00:35:30,631 --> 00:35:34,034
we were able to listen to
conversations amongst themselves
749
00:35:34,034 --> 00:35:35,769
talking about the scheme.
750
00:35:44,244 --> 00:35:46,380
Janney: These people
were caught on wiretap
751
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:49,250
discussing exactly
what they were doing
752
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:52,085
and how effective
they thought it was.
753
00:36:12,306 --> 00:36:15,442
Needless to say,
these wiretaps were fruitful.
754
00:36:31,091 --> 00:36:34,128
The FBI investigation
began in 2
755
00:36:34,128 --> 00:36:36,229
and lasted
more than three years.
756
00:36:41,568 --> 00:36:43,570
Drape:
The wiretaps were revelatory.
757
00:36:51,745 --> 00:36:54,181
Trainers were talking about
how they were using drugs,
758
00:36:54,181 --> 00:36:55,749
what they were using,
759
00:36:55,749 --> 00:36:58,218
and how they were evading
and gaming the system.
760
00:37:06,093 --> 00:37:07,695
Richards:
I can remember a conversation
761
00:37:07,695 --> 00:37:09,296
where, you know,
they're talking about
762
00:37:09,296 --> 00:37:11,665
pumpin' and dumpin',
fumin' horses.
763
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,410
I wasn't shocked
about the behavior.
764
00:37:23,410 --> 00:37:27,481
What was shocking to me
was the efficiency
765
00:37:27,481 --> 00:37:31,218
and the ability for them
to dope horses and get results.
766
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:42,129
Richards: What I had seen
that was most effective,
767
00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:45,799
or consistently displayed,
was "milkshaking."
768
00:37:51,672 --> 00:37:54,408
Man: Milkshaking
is a simple and quick way
769
00:37:54,408 --> 00:37:57,645
of giving a horse more stamina.
770
00:37:57,645 --> 00:38:00,781
By mixing together
baking soda and sugar
771
00:38:00,781 --> 00:38:04,251
with water and electrolytes...
772
00:38:04,251 --> 00:38:06,220
that's shot up
through a long tube
773
00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:07,821
inserted through
a horse's nostril,
774
00:38:07,821 --> 00:38:10,658
straight down into its stomach.
775
00:38:10,658 --> 00:38:12,293
Richards:
I'm not a scientist.
776
00:38:12,293 --> 00:38:14,295
I don't know what
the detrimental effect
777
00:38:14,295 --> 00:38:17,798
of milkshaking would be
on the animal,
778
00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:20,734
but I wouldn't want to ingest
a half a pound
779
00:38:20,734 --> 00:38:24,104
or a pound of baking soda
myself.
780
00:38:33,113 --> 00:38:34,648
They had other substances
781
00:38:34,648 --> 00:38:37,184
where they put cobalt
into a substance
782
00:38:37,184 --> 00:38:39,453
which essentially
poisons the horse
783
00:38:39,453 --> 00:38:41,155
and builds the blood that way.
784
00:38:41,155 --> 00:38:43,490
They also had antidepressants.
785
00:38:56,637 --> 00:38:58,639
[ Horse neighs ]
786
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:03,143
Nobody believed anybody was
going to jail for this behavior.
787
00:39:03,143 --> 00:39:05,579
Man: More than two dozen
racehorse trainers,
788
00:39:05,579 --> 00:39:07,481
veterinarians, and others
789
00:39:07,481 --> 00:39:11,685
have all been charged
in a massive horse doping bust.
790
00:39:11,685 --> 00:39:13,621
Today, we announce
criminal charges
791
00:39:13,621 --> 00:39:15,356
against racehorse trainers
792
00:39:15,356 --> 00:39:18,525
Jorge Navarro and Jason Servis,
793
00:39:18,525 --> 00:39:22,463
as well as nine other trainers,
seven veterinarians,
794
00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:25,633
and nine drug suppliers
and distributors.
795
00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:28,335
The FBI charged over 30 people
796
00:39:28,335 --> 00:39:30,137
in the horse-racing industry,
797
00:39:30,137 --> 00:39:32,740
and Jason Servis is probably
the most prominent
798
00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:35,342
because he won
the Kentucky Derby in 2019
799
00:39:35,342 --> 00:39:37,244
with Maximum Security.
800
00:39:37,244 --> 00:39:41,415
Announcer: Maximum Security
wins the Kentucky Derby!
801
00:39:41,415 --> 00:39:45,819
♪
802
00:39:45,819 --> 00:39:47,755
Man: Trainer Jason Servis
was charged
803
00:39:47,755 --> 00:39:50,424
with administering
performance-enhancing drugs
804
00:39:50,424 --> 00:39:53,160
to the champion horse
Maximum Security.
805
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,496
Man #2: Trainers, veterinarians,
and drug distributors
806
00:39:55,496 --> 00:39:57,598
are also among those indicted.
807
00:39:57,598 --> 00:40:01,502
Janney: I can remember federal
people carting folks off
808
00:40:01,502 --> 00:40:04,104
from various tracks
across the country,
809
00:40:04,104 --> 00:40:06,073
and so it was a very big deal
in the industry.
810
00:40:06,073 --> 00:40:08,309
It's a terrible black eye
for our sport.
811
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:10,077
Man: A transcript reads,
812
00:40:10,077 --> 00:40:12,246
"You know how many horses
he killed and broke down
813
00:40:12,246 --> 00:40:14,081
that I made disappear?"
814
00:40:14,081 --> 00:40:15,649
As the U.S. Attorney says,
815
00:40:15,649 --> 00:40:17,685
they believe
at least 20 horses died
816
00:40:17,685 --> 00:40:20,321
in connection
with the doping cases.
817
00:40:20,321 --> 00:40:24,325
Hoppert: I went
to Jason Servis' sentencing.
818
00:40:24,325 --> 00:40:26,527
He said he was sorry
to his family.
819
00:40:26,527 --> 00:40:28,629
He was sorry for what he did.
820
00:40:28,629 --> 00:40:30,698
But he did not say sorry
to the horses.
821
00:40:30,698 --> 00:40:33,267
And I thought that that was--
822
00:40:33,267 --> 00:40:35,202
that kind of was telling,
in a way.
823
00:40:35,202 --> 00:40:36,770
♪
824
00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:38,739
Richards: The fact that people
were going to jail
825
00:40:38,739 --> 00:40:42,676
and were going to jail
for significant time...
826
00:40:42,676 --> 00:40:46,580
was a major statement
to the industry.
827
00:40:46,580 --> 00:40:49,083
Now, we should expect
to see some reform changes
828
00:40:49,083 --> 00:40:52,286
with these drugs because
currently the drugs listed
829
00:40:52,286 --> 00:40:55,055
in that indictment
can be found online.
830
00:40:55,055 --> 00:40:57,258
Janney: The federal government
never said to us,
831
00:40:57,258 --> 00:40:59,426
"We're going to find
everybody in your sport
832
00:40:59,426 --> 00:41:01,462
that's done anything wrong."
833
00:41:01,462 --> 00:41:04,265
What they said was,
"We're gonna come in,
834
00:41:04,265 --> 00:41:07,334
we're gonna start a process
that's gonna be very meaningful,
835
00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:11,272
but it's very important
that you all understand
836
00:41:11,272 --> 00:41:13,741
that the job is not complete."
837
00:41:13,741 --> 00:41:16,410
Richards: I used to talk about,
"If we do our job right
838
00:41:16,410 --> 00:41:19,413
in this investigation,
there's this legislation
839
00:41:19,413 --> 00:41:24,285
that they've tried before to get
passed that keeps falling short.
840
00:41:24,285 --> 00:41:26,353
And if we do this right,
841
00:41:26,353 --> 00:41:29,623
we might just be able to
help push that across the line."
842
00:41:29,623 --> 00:41:35,629
♪
843
00:41:35,629 --> 00:41:38,132
Janney: The Washington Post
wrote an editorial
844
00:41:38,132 --> 00:41:39,767
that said that horse racing
845
00:41:39,767 --> 00:41:43,070
had outlived its time
and should go away.
846
00:41:43,070 --> 00:41:46,440
♪
847
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,777
That was something
that Senator McConnell read,
848
00:41:49,777 --> 00:41:53,747
and I think it focused
his attention on the fact
849
00:41:53,747 --> 00:41:57,451
that this was a big problem,
not a small problem.
850
00:41:57,451 --> 00:41:59,253
Arthur: I think
it brought home to him
851
00:41:59,253 --> 00:42:01,755
what we've been trying to do
for the last 30 years.
852
00:42:01,755 --> 00:42:03,791
And I think, as a consequence,
853
00:42:03,791 --> 00:42:07,761
he was able to get Churchill
to go and support this.
854
00:42:07,761 --> 00:42:09,797
If we don't get rid of
the drugs and thugs,
855
00:42:09,797 --> 00:42:11,464
they're gonna get rid of us.
856
00:42:18,171 --> 00:42:25,112
♪
857
00:42:25,112 --> 00:42:28,115
Arthur: In the early '90s,
I gave a speech in Arizona
858
00:42:28,115 --> 00:42:31,452
at a racing forum...
859
00:42:31,452 --> 00:42:35,689
and said that we need to
get rid of drugs and thugs
860
00:42:35,689 --> 00:42:38,826
because they're gonna
ruin the business.
861
00:42:38,826 --> 00:42:41,762
And I must say
that it met with a cold shoulder
862
00:42:41,762 --> 00:42:46,200
from pretty much everybody.
863
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,770
Big people in the industry said,
"That's just not practical.
864
00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:52,640
Nobody's cheating.
Nobody's doing anything."
865
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,310
But it was the truth.
866
00:42:56,310 --> 00:42:59,546
I went to Senator McConnell
maybe four or five times
867
00:42:59,546 --> 00:43:01,649
over the last 30 years.
868
00:43:01,649 --> 00:43:06,654
I've known him. He had a date
with my sister back in 1968.
869
00:43:06,654 --> 00:43:09,623
He said, "If you come up here
to Washington
870
00:43:09,623 --> 00:43:11,358
and you want to get
something done,
871
00:43:11,358 --> 00:43:14,228
you have to have
industry consensus.
872
00:43:14,228 --> 00:43:16,497
Until you can get
Churchill Downs on board,
873
00:43:16,497 --> 00:43:21,268
I can't help you--
because they're my best client."
874
00:43:21,268 --> 00:43:23,704
Janney: Churchill Downs
was very concerned
875
00:43:23,704 --> 00:43:28,342
about how opposed the horsemen
in Kentucky were.
876
00:43:28,342 --> 00:43:30,778
There is no need
for the federal government
877
00:43:30,778 --> 00:43:32,713
to reinvent the wheel
878
00:43:32,713 --> 00:43:35,115
by establishing
a new regulatory structure
879
00:43:35,115 --> 00:43:37,518
where the state structure
is already working well.
880
00:43:37,518 --> 00:43:39,687
Horsemen and owners
and people
881
00:43:39,687 --> 00:43:42,489
on the backstretch
of America's tracks,
882
00:43:42,489 --> 00:43:45,125
they like the status quo.
883
00:43:45,125 --> 00:43:47,761
The feeling is the industry
would rather police itself
884
00:43:47,761 --> 00:43:50,297
than have Congress
do it for them.
885
00:43:50,297 --> 00:43:51,832
Arthur:
The Racing Commissioners
886
00:43:51,832 --> 00:43:53,601
are all appointed
by the governors
887
00:43:53,601 --> 00:43:56,503
because they gave the governor,
you know,
888
00:43:56,503 --> 00:43:58,372
a good contribution
and all that.
889
00:43:58,372 --> 00:44:00,074
And a lot of them
didn't even know
890
00:44:00,074 --> 00:44:03,344
the front end of a horse
from the back.
891
00:44:03,344 --> 00:44:07,081
Janney: We had very little
success in those early years,
892
00:44:07,081 --> 00:44:12,319
but then the federal
government indicted 30 people.
893
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:15,356
Man: All involved in the cruel
and systematic doping
894
00:44:15,356 --> 00:44:18,359
of racehorses
across the United States
895
00:44:18,359 --> 00:44:21,228
and indeed around the world.
896
00:44:21,228 --> 00:44:23,797
Janney: That really changed
a lot of people's minds
897
00:44:23,797 --> 00:44:27,468
about whether you could continue
with the status quo
898
00:44:27,468 --> 00:44:31,372
or whether you had to have
a different kind of solution.
899
00:44:31,372 --> 00:44:33,540
Carstanjen: You don't see that
a lot in American business,
900
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:35,542
where an industry raises
their hand and says,
901
00:44:35,542 --> 00:44:37,311
"You know, we want to
be regulated more intensely
902
00:44:37,311 --> 00:44:39,179
by the federal government."
903
00:44:39,179 --> 00:44:40,514
Today I'll introduce the
904
00:44:40,514 --> 00:44:43,617
Horseracing Integrity
and Safety Act
905
00:44:43,617 --> 00:44:46,153
to recognize a uniform
national standard
906
00:44:46,153 --> 00:44:48,622
for thoroughbred racing.
907
00:44:48,622 --> 00:44:50,391
Lazarus: Senator McConnell
and everyone
908
00:44:50,391 --> 00:44:52,526
was just really incentivized
to get something done
909
00:44:52,526 --> 00:44:54,295
because they felt
that it was necessary
910
00:44:54,295 --> 00:44:56,664
to really secure
horse racing's future.
911
00:44:56,664 --> 00:44:59,066
Woman: Last night, Congress
passed an act in support
912
00:44:59,066 --> 00:45:00,801
of creating
a centralized authority
913
00:45:00,801 --> 00:45:02,770
for the horse-racing industry.
914
00:45:02,770 --> 00:45:06,540
Man: One set of rules
for drug testing and penalties.
915
00:45:08,675 --> 00:45:11,211
Lazarus: I took over
in February of 2022.
916
00:45:11,211 --> 00:45:14,548
We launched on July 1, 2022,
917
00:45:14,548 --> 00:45:17,351
on all of our racetracks,
safety program initiatives,
918
00:45:17,351 --> 00:45:19,553
and then we didn't launch
the anti-doping program
919
00:45:19,553 --> 00:45:24,425
until May of 2023.
920
00:45:24,425 --> 00:45:27,094
Under HISA's
anti-doping program,
921
00:45:27,094 --> 00:45:29,229
we have what we call
an umbrella term,
922
00:45:29,229 --> 00:45:31,565
which is prohibited substances.
923
00:45:31,565 --> 00:45:34,235
One category is called
banned substances,
924
00:45:34,235 --> 00:45:36,203
and those are doping substances
925
00:45:36,203 --> 00:45:39,206
that should never be
in a horse's system.
926
00:45:39,206 --> 00:45:42,643
The second category is called
controlled medications.
927
00:45:42,643 --> 00:45:45,579
That's kind of your Advils,
your Tylenols.
928
00:45:45,579 --> 00:45:48,449
We want to make sure that
they don't have any of those
929
00:45:48,449 --> 00:45:52,152
substances in their system
when they go to race.
930
00:45:52,152 --> 00:45:55,456
I want to just turn him
just a little bit that way.
931
00:45:55,456 --> 00:45:59,326
♪
932
00:45:59,326 --> 00:46:01,128
Alright.
933
00:46:01,128 --> 00:46:03,297
Lazarus: We narrowed it down
to six laboratories
934
00:46:03,297 --> 00:46:06,467
to test the level
that we needed.
935
00:46:06,467 --> 00:46:09,536
The penalties range
from a $500 fine
936
00:46:09,536 --> 00:46:12,239
for using something
like an ibuprofen
937
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,509
to two-year suspensions,
four-year suspensions,
938
00:46:15,509 --> 00:46:18,712
and much more serious fines
in the $20,000-$30,000 range.
939
00:46:18,712 --> 00:46:23,050
♪
940
00:46:23,050 --> 00:46:24,518
Finley:
I think, with HISA,
941
00:46:24,518 --> 00:46:27,588
the whole industry
has had a restart.
942
00:46:27,588 --> 00:46:30,090
Arthur:
A new sheriff is in town,
943
00:46:30,090 --> 00:46:33,494
and this sheriff means business.
944
00:46:33,494 --> 00:46:36,697
Devall: I think what it's doing
is protecting our horses,
945
00:46:36,697 --> 00:46:40,234
and it's getting rid of
the bad people in this industry
946
00:46:40,234 --> 00:46:41,669
because they can't hold on.
947
00:46:41,669 --> 00:46:43,537
HISA regulates the racetrack
948
00:46:43,537 --> 00:46:46,073
and the horses
currently running,
949
00:46:46,073 --> 00:46:49,476
but they don't regulate
breeding and sales,
950
00:46:49,476 --> 00:46:53,681
where a lot can go wrong
and has gone wrong.
951
00:46:53,681 --> 00:46:57,151
Hoppert: What happens
from the time a horse is born
952
00:46:57,151 --> 00:46:58,619
to the time that horse
gets on the racetrack
953
00:46:58,619 --> 00:47:00,788
is completely unregulated.
954
00:47:00,788 --> 00:47:05,159
So drugs, surgeries.
It's the Wild West.
955
00:47:05,159 --> 00:47:12,299
♪
956
00:47:12,299 --> 00:47:16,537
Janney: When I got into
the business 35 years ago,
957
00:47:16,537 --> 00:47:20,574
only about 20% to 25%
of the horses
958
00:47:20,574 --> 00:47:22,443
would go through a sale.
959
00:47:22,443 --> 00:47:26,747
Now more than 75% of horses
go through a sale.
960
00:47:26,747 --> 00:47:30,284
And that means that people
that are selling them
961
00:47:30,284 --> 00:47:33,187
need to produce
certain characteristics.
962
00:47:33,187 --> 00:47:36,056
♪
963
00:47:36,056 --> 00:47:40,628
You want the best mares,
and you want the best stallions.
964
00:47:40,628 --> 00:47:42,429
Man: Now, the big money,
of course, with thoroughbreds
965
00:47:42,429 --> 00:47:44,698
is not necessarily from the
racing, but from the breeding.
966
00:47:44,698 --> 00:47:47,268
Certainly great money
to be made on the racetrack,
967
00:47:47,268 --> 00:47:50,571
but the real money is really
made in the breeding shed.
968
00:47:50,571 --> 00:47:55,209
We bought Flightline for
$1 million at Saratoga in 2019.
969
00:47:55,209 --> 00:47:56,710
Announcer:
It is Flightline!
970
00:47:56,710 --> 00:48:00,514
He won it by eight lengths
to the wire!
971
00:48:00,514 --> 00:48:04,151
Finley: Right after
the Breeders' Cup in 2022,
972
00:48:04,151 --> 00:48:08,155
we sold a 2.5% share
in Flightline
973
00:48:08,155 --> 00:48:10,624
for $4.6 million,
974
00:48:10,624 --> 00:48:14,694
which comes out to a total
valuation of $184 million.
975
00:48:16,296 --> 00:48:18,499
I also said, "Wow."
976
00:48:18,499 --> 00:48:21,435
Hoppert: He's, like, the
biggest superstar that
no one's ever heard of.
977
00:48:21,435 --> 00:48:24,371
He was pulled off the racetrack
to go into the breeding shed
978
00:48:24,371 --> 00:48:26,807
after only six starts.
979
00:48:26,807 --> 00:48:30,277
He stands for $200,000.
980
00:48:30,277 --> 00:48:33,514
So, this year,
he bred 152 mares.
981
00:48:33,514 --> 00:48:35,382
I don't say it
in an arrogant way,
982
00:48:35,382 --> 00:48:38,586
but you can do the math.
983
00:48:38,586 --> 00:48:41,555
People couldn't wait
to send their mares to them.
984
00:48:41,555 --> 00:48:43,724
Drape:
In this chase for money,
985
00:48:43,724 --> 00:48:46,393
the breeding gene pool
has shrunk a great deal.
986
00:48:46,393 --> 00:48:47,728
[ Horse neighs ]
987
00:48:47,728 --> 00:48:49,730
Janney:
We've gone from stallions
988
00:48:49,730 --> 00:48:53,067
typically breeding
50 mares a year
989
00:48:53,067 --> 00:48:56,570
to well past 200 mares a year.
990
00:48:56,570 --> 00:49:00,140
♪
991
00:49:00,140 --> 00:49:01,642
Geneticists would agree
992
00:49:01,642 --> 00:49:03,744
that a breed
that's particularly healthy
993
00:49:03,744 --> 00:49:08,249
is one that has a pretty broad
number of stallion lines,
994
00:49:08,249 --> 00:49:12,386
and we are in danger
of not having that.
995
00:49:12,386 --> 00:49:15,456
Papp: Also, breeding
has started tending
996
00:49:15,456 --> 00:49:18,559
towards speed versus distance.
997
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:20,327
That's not doing anything good
998
00:49:20,327 --> 00:49:23,130
for longevity and
bone density long-term.
999
00:49:23,130 --> 00:49:25,532
So the more we breed
for these spindle-legged,
1000
00:49:25,532 --> 00:49:27,134
really fast horses
1001
00:49:27,134 --> 00:49:29,603
instead of durable,
long-distance horses,
1002
00:49:29,603 --> 00:49:33,106
the more problems
we probably will be having.
1003
00:49:41,348 --> 00:49:43,751
Man: Two horses died today
1004
00:49:43,751 --> 00:49:46,053
Seven deaths seems like a lot.
1005
00:49:46,053 --> 00:49:48,088
Literally within
the last few minutes, Fred,
1006
00:49:48,088 --> 00:49:49,723
track officials
saying another horse,
1007
00:49:49,723 --> 00:49:52,092
Chloe's Dream, has died.
1008
00:49:52,092 --> 00:49:54,762
It happened just behind us
here on the first turn.
1009
00:49:54,762 --> 00:50:00,501
♪
1010
00:50:00,501 --> 00:50:02,636
Lazarus: To see things
unfolding in the Derby
1011
00:50:02,636 --> 00:50:05,372
the way they did was
obviously extremely upsetting
1012
00:50:05,372 --> 00:50:07,341
to both me and my team.
1013
00:50:07,341 --> 00:50:10,744
Janney: Since 2009,
we've seen the rate
1014
00:50:10,744 --> 00:50:14,648
of catastrophic injury
go down by 35%,
1015
00:50:14,648 --> 00:50:18,085
but sometimes
you get clusters of injuries
1016
00:50:18,085 --> 00:50:20,821
because of one circumstance
or another.
1017
00:50:20,821 --> 00:50:23,223
Carstanjen: When we started
to see the breakdowns,
1018
00:50:23,223 --> 00:50:25,392
we just went factor by factor
1019
00:50:25,392 --> 00:50:28,362
and tried to make our event
as safe as possible.
1020
00:50:28,362 --> 00:50:31,465
Our obligation is to get
to the bottom of it.
1021
00:50:31,465 --> 00:50:35,169
♪
1022
00:50:35,169 --> 00:50:36,704
Lazarus:
The investigation
1023
00:50:36,704 --> 00:50:40,541
into the fatalities
at Churchill Downs
1024
00:50:40,541 --> 00:50:42,676
involved a number of components.
1025
00:50:42,676 --> 00:50:46,280
The first component
was very significant testing
1026
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,650
of the racetrack surface.
1027
00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:53,354
We brought in experts that are
not employed by Churchill Downs,
1028
00:50:53,354 --> 00:50:56,390
and they didn't find anything
that they believed
1029
00:50:56,390 --> 00:51:00,261
had any connection or nexus
to the injuries.
1030
00:51:00,261 --> 00:51:03,330
The second piece is we do a very
comprehensive veterinary review
1031
00:51:03,330 --> 00:51:05,299
of all of
the veterinary records.
1032
00:51:05,299 --> 00:51:07,701
We also obviously reviewed
the necropsies.
1033
00:51:07,701 --> 00:51:10,504
Of the 12 horses
that passed away,
1034
00:51:10,504 --> 00:51:13,040
9 were musculo-skeletal,
1035
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,210
and those are the ones
that interest us.
1036
00:51:16,210 --> 00:51:20,114
Lyons: When I reviewed the
necropsies from Churchill Downs,
1037
00:51:20,114 --> 00:51:22,650
the orthopaedic breakdowns,
1038
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:26,587
what I found was
that these horses
1039
00:51:26,587 --> 00:51:29,723
had significant
pre-existing injury.
1040
00:51:29,723 --> 00:51:32,426
♪
1041
00:51:32,426 --> 00:51:35,062
Not only on the limb
that broke down,
1042
00:51:35,062 --> 00:51:38,265
but in other limbs, as well.
1043
00:51:38,265 --> 00:51:43,337
Also, the necropsy reports
did not have drug history.
1044
00:51:43,337 --> 00:51:51,045
♪
1045
00:51:51,045 --> 00:51:54,381
It's really, really rare
for a necropsy
1046
00:51:54,381 --> 00:51:57,418
to really have a smoking gun.
1047
00:51:57,418 --> 00:52:01,388
A lot of these illegal drugs,
they're undetectable.
1048
00:52:01,388 --> 00:52:03,390
The drug tests are only as good
1049
00:52:03,390 --> 00:52:05,793
as the next drug
that's being developed.
1050
00:52:05,793 --> 00:52:07,361
Lyons:
We don't even know whether
1051
00:52:07,361 --> 00:52:10,064
these horses were running
1052
00:52:10,064 --> 00:52:13,567
with legal therapeutic
medications.
1053
00:52:13,567 --> 00:52:16,503
If a horse gave
the ultimate price,
1054
00:52:16,503 --> 00:52:20,541
we want to learn
what contributed to that
1055
00:52:20,541 --> 00:52:23,544
and make changes.
1056
00:52:23,544 --> 00:52:25,746
Man: Havnameltdown,
one of Bob Baffert's horses,
1057
00:52:25,746 --> 00:52:28,081
has been euthanized.
1058
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,257
I did review
the necropsy report
1059
00:52:36,257 --> 00:52:39,159
for the horse
called Havnameltdown.
1060
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:42,529
I have never
even heard of a horse
1061
00:52:42,529 --> 00:52:46,634
having the type of pathology
that this horse had.
1062
00:52:46,634 --> 00:52:49,036
♪
1063
00:52:49,036 --> 00:52:53,807
Havnameltdown had lesions
in each fetlock.
1064
00:52:53,807 --> 00:52:58,579
It occurs when there's been
this repetitive injury...
1065
00:52:58,579 --> 00:53:03,150
so that the cartilage
has been worn away.
1066
00:53:03,150 --> 00:53:05,419
But you didn't only have it
1067
00:53:05,419 --> 00:53:09,089
in the leg
where this fracture occurred.
1068
00:53:09,089 --> 00:53:12,459
This horse had it
in all four limbs.
1069
00:53:12,459 --> 00:53:15,095
♪
1070
00:53:15,095 --> 00:53:18,399
This is easily diagnosed.
1071
00:53:18,399 --> 00:53:20,200
X-ray equipment
1072
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,703
in every track
practicing vet's vehicle,
1073
00:53:22,703 --> 00:53:25,573
it would take 10 minutes.
1074
00:53:25,573 --> 00:53:28,742
In previous vet examinations,
1075
00:53:28,742 --> 00:53:32,379
they detected a decrease
in range of motion,
1076
00:53:32,379 --> 00:53:35,783
choppy or abnormal gait.
1077
00:53:35,783 --> 00:53:38,118
And these reports
are available
1078
00:53:38,118 --> 00:53:43,057
both to the trainer
and to the horse's veterinarian.
1079
00:53:43,057 --> 00:53:47,428
So how it was never red-flagged,
1080
00:53:47,428 --> 00:53:50,331
uh, just baffles me.
1081
00:53:50,331 --> 00:53:53,467
There were all sorts of notes
by the regulatory veterinarians,
1082
00:53:53,467 --> 00:53:57,104
but all of them concluded
that the horse was racing-sound,
1083
00:53:57,104 --> 00:53:59,406
even though there were
abnormal findings.
1084
00:54:05,245 --> 00:54:08,082
Announcer: Ryvit. Havnameltdown
is right alongside the 2 path.
1085
00:54:08,082 --> 00:54:11,785
Lyons: Havnameltdown
had corticosteroid
1086
00:54:11,785 --> 00:54:14,188
and hyaluronic acid
1087
00:54:14,188 --> 00:54:20,394
injected into both hocks
and both stifles.
1088
00:54:20,394 --> 00:54:22,563
If you inject a fetlock
1089
00:54:22,563 --> 00:54:25,499
that has significant pathology
1090
00:54:25,499 --> 00:54:28,135
with corticosteroids,
1091
00:54:28,135 --> 00:54:33,140
that horse could be able
to race and train
1092
00:54:33,140 --> 00:54:36,443
in a way that it couldn't
without that medication.
1093
00:54:36,443 --> 00:54:37,778
Announcer: ...outside.
1094
00:54:37,778 --> 00:54:40,214
Havnameltdown
kept it all together!
1095
00:54:40,214 --> 00:54:43,183
Havnameltdown makes short work
of the competition.
1096
00:54:43,183 --> 00:54:46,387
Havnameltdown gives Juan
Fernandez another stakes win!
1097
00:54:46,387 --> 00:54:48,756
Lyons:
Havnameltdown's death
1098
00:54:48,756 --> 00:54:51,659
could have been prevented,
in my opinion.
1099
00:54:51,659 --> 00:54:53,460
Bob, congratulations.
1100
00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:55,462
Horse maybe took
a step slow
1101
00:54:55,462 --> 00:54:57,531
coming out of the gate
but recovered quickly.
1102
00:54:57,531 --> 00:54:59,566
Was it the rail you think
might've had something
to do with it?
1103
00:54:59,566 --> 00:55:02,503
Papp: This horse was
a disaster waiting to happen.
1104
00:55:02,503 --> 00:55:06,073
It was only a matter of time.
1105
00:55:06,073 --> 00:55:09,777
Havnameltdown should not
have been racing that day.
1106
00:55:09,777 --> 00:55:12,579
Absolutely not.
Under any circumstances.
1107
00:55:14,615 --> 00:55:17,651
Devall: It had an injury.
It was an accident!
1108
00:55:17,651 --> 00:55:19,320
It had nothing to do
with what he did.
1109
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,155
What he put in those joints
1110
00:55:21,155 --> 00:55:24,625
was hyaluronic acid
and Celestone.
1111
00:55:24,625 --> 00:55:26,827
You know, that's only
to make those joints better
1112
00:55:26,827 --> 00:55:28,829
and to help them last.
1113
00:55:28,829 --> 00:55:30,698
Horses that run hard like that,
1114
00:55:30,698 --> 00:55:32,433
they're gonna have
little things.
1115
00:55:32,433 --> 00:55:34,367
That's just how it is.
1116
00:55:37,437 --> 00:55:42,109
Continuing to train
and race a horse
1117
00:55:42,109 --> 00:55:45,145
that has significant pathology
1118
00:55:45,145 --> 00:55:49,416
in one or more joints
is abusive.
1119
00:55:49,416 --> 00:55:52,386
Trainers have a conflict of
interest when it comes to that
1120
00:55:52,386 --> 00:55:56,490
because they make money
by winning races.
1121
00:55:56,490 --> 00:56:01,295
Havnameltdown didn't just
have bone lesions everywhere.
1122
00:56:01,295 --> 00:56:05,499
The horse had
full adult roundworms.
1123
00:56:05,499 --> 00:56:07,768
Drape: While this isn't
unheard of in young horses,
1124
00:56:07,768 --> 00:56:09,737
there's no deworming treatment
included
1125
00:56:09,737 --> 00:56:12,306
in Havnameltdown's
medical history,
1126
00:56:12,306 --> 00:56:16,677
which indicates that he may not
have gotten the most basic care.
1127
00:56:16,677 --> 00:56:20,281
Papp: Baffert is the main
caretaker for this horse.
1128
00:56:20,281 --> 00:56:23,150
In my opinion,
he is the responsible party
1129
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:24,618
for what happened.
1130
00:56:30,724 --> 00:56:33,327
So, we are absolutely looking
at the necropsy.
1131
00:56:33,327 --> 00:56:36,764
But Preakness was also
"pre" our anti-doping program.
1132
00:56:36,764 --> 00:56:39,366
It actually launched, like,
the Monday after the Preakness.
1133
00:56:39,366 --> 00:56:43,103
So we don't have the authority
on the anti-doping side.
1134
00:56:43,103 --> 00:56:45,806
Drape: The sport can do
all the necropsies they want,
1135
00:56:45,806 --> 00:56:47,775
but they don't do
anything about it.
1136
00:56:47,775 --> 00:56:50,477
Until they hold people
accountable
1137
00:56:50,477 --> 00:56:53,247
for basically poor horsemanship,
1138
00:56:53,247 --> 00:56:54,748
this is probably gonna go on.
1139
00:56:54,748 --> 00:57:01,422
♪
1140
00:57:01,422 --> 00:57:04,124
Arthur: When I was a boy
back in the '50s and '60s,
1141
00:57:04,124 --> 00:57:06,694
horses would race
all spring and summer.
1142
00:57:06,694 --> 00:57:08,796
They'd bring them to farm
in the fall
1143
00:57:08,796 --> 00:57:11,265
and give them
about two months off
1144
00:57:11,265 --> 00:57:14,201
and then send them back
to South Carolina or Florida.
1145
00:57:14,201 --> 00:57:15,603
♪
1146
00:57:15,603 --> 00:57:17,037
They don't do that anymore.
1147
00:57:17,037 --> 00:57:20,140
They stay in that stall
all year 'round
1148
00:57:20,140 --> 00:57:23,711
trying to squeeze the lemon dry.
1149
00:57:23,711 --> 00:57:26,313
Janney:
People do put horses in races
1150
00:57:26,313 --> 00:57:28,349
that they shouldn't.
1151
00:57:28,349 --> 00:57:31,051
And not every time
1152
00:57:31,051 --> 00:57:34,722
does the track veterinarian
catch what's going on.
1153
00:57:34,722 --> 00:57:38,726
And it is very difficult
sometimes to figure out
1154
00:57:38,726 --> 00:57:40,628
whether the horse
should race or not
1155
00:57:40,628 --> 00:57:43,831
because of drugs
that may mask an injury.
1156
00:57:43,831 --> 00:57:45,499
Announcer:
Closing stages...
1157
00:57:45,499 --> 00:57:47,401
Arthur: It is regulated
differently in America
1158
00:57:47,401 --> 00:57:49,336
than anywhere else in the world.
1159
00:57:49,336 --> 00:57:51,739
Japan, Australia,
France, England,
1160
00:57:51,739 --> 00:57:55,409
Ireland, Germany--
everywhere.
1161
00:57:55,409 --> 00:57:57,344
Papp: In Australia
and the Melbourne Cup,
1162
00:57:57,344 --> 00:58:00,481
those entries actually have to
undergo CT scanning
1163
00:58:00,481 --> 00:58:04,251
prior to approval
for them to race in that race.
1164
00:58:04,251 --> 00:58:05,819
In Hong Kong, they have
1165
00:58:05,819 --> 00:58:07,755
an on-site pharmacy
on the racetrack,
1166
00:58:07,755 --> 00:58:12,259
so no medications are pulled out
of private veterinarian trucks.
1167
00:58:12,259 --> 00:58:15,729
They all have to be logged
and prescribed for a reason.
1168
00:58:15,729 --> 00:58:17,698
Arthur:
They have strict rules,
1169
00:58:17,698 --> 00:58:21,035
and they don't have near
as many breakdowns as we do.
1170
00:58:21,035 --> 00:58:22,469
Announcer: They're off...
1171
00:58:22,469 --> 00:58:24,171
Hoppert: Generally,
racing is safer overseas
1172
00:58:24,171 --> 00:58:27,174
because they race on turf
predominantly.
1173
00:58:27,174 --> 00:58:31,445
Horse racing is a lot safer
on turf than on dirt.
1174
00:58:31,445 --> 00:58:34,348
And also it's more transparent.
1175
00:58:34,348 --> 00:58:35,449
If there's
medication violations,
1176
00:58:35,449 --> 00:58:38,352
the public knows about it.
1177
00:58:38,352 --> 00:58:42,156
Arthur: Willie Nelson said,
"Greed is a terminal disease,"
1178
00:58:42,156 --> 00:58:44,358
and I think you see a lot
of that in this business,
1179
00:58:44,358 --> 00:58:46,660
in every aspect of it.
1180
00:58:54,568 --> 00:58:58,472
Lyons: There's a push from
so many different directions--
1181
00:58:58,472 --> 00:59:00,474
from the impatient owner,
1182
00:59:00,474 --> 00:59:02,576
from the trainer who doesn't
want to lose that owner
1183
00:59:02,576 --> 00:59:04,345
by saying,
1184
00:59:04,345 --> 00:59:08,816
"Your horse isn't ready to run.
He needs more time."
1185
00:59:08,816 --> 00:59:12,753
The only way to reduce
these catastrophic injuries
1186
00:59:12,753 --> 00:59:16,090
would be early detection.
1187
00:59:16,090 --> 00:59:18,626
Lazarus: We have to look at
machines like PET scans
1188
00:59:18,626 --> 00:59:20,728
that can assist us to sort
of see what's going on
with the horse.
1189
00:59:20,728 --> 00:59:24,231
We have to look at
veterinary protocols.
1190
00:59:24,231 --> 00:59:28,202
We have to look at surfaces,
good breeding.
1191
00:59:28,202 --> 00:59:30,738
And I think if everyone holds
true to their commitments,
1192
00:59:30,738 --> 00:59:33,340
that we'll make
really meaningful progress.
1193
00:59:33,340 --> 00:59:35,609
We've been in place
for four months.
1194
00:59:35,609 --> 00:59:39,413
We've had about 112 positive
tests that have come through.
1195
00:59:39,413 --> 00:59:41,615
About 38% are banned substances,
1196
00:59:41,615 --> 00:59:44,718
and the other are
controlled medication.
1197
00:59:44,718 --> 00:59:46,720
Drape: The impact of HISA
has been immediate.
1198
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,489
They've caught a lot of people.
1199
00:59:48,489 --> 00:59:51,225
But they're gonna have to
fight through resistance
1200
00:59:51,225 --> 00:59:52,726
every step of the way.
1201
00:59:52,726 --> 00:59:54,762
Even though
there's been legislation
1202
00:59:54,762 --> 00:59:57,231
to start improving things,
1203
00:59:57,231 --> 00:59:59,500
we're also now still fighting
about the same thing
1204
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,702
we fought about 50 years ago.
1205
01:00:01,702 --> 01:00:03,671
And the people involved
in day-to-day racing
1206
01:00:03,671 --> 01:00:06,807
saying horses are still dying,
there's still breakdowns.
1207
01:00:06,807 --> 01:00:12,613
♪
1208
01:00:12,613 --> 01:00:15,282
Lazarus: We saw
another cluster of fatalities,
1209
01:00:15,282 --> 01:00:17,751
which was truly unexpected,
1210
01:00:17,751 --> 01:00:20,721
so that was, like,
incredibly heartbreaking for me.
1211
01:00:20,721 --> 01:00:24,458
We will look very carefully
at the necropsies.
1212
01:00:24,458 --> 01:00:28,195
We will look at all of
the veterinary histories.
1213
01:00:28,195 --> 01:00:30,831
We'll look at the surface.
We'll also look at weather.
1214
01:00:30,831 --> 01:00:50,317
♪
1215
01:00:50,317 --> 01:00:52,720
Drape: I don't know if HISA
is gonna to solve the problem.
1216
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,488
You know,
it's ultimately up to the people
1217
01:00:54,488 --> 01:00:56,624
in the sport themselves.
1218
01:00:56,624 --> 01:00:59,360
They're either gonna play right,
have integrity,
1219
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,363
quit cheating,
and care for their animals...
1220
01:01:02,363 --> 01:01:05,265
or the sport of horse racing
is gonna go away.
1221
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,736
Man: Baffert has been
suspended for two years
1222
01:01:08,736 --> 01:01:10,738
after Medina Spirit's
disqualification
1223
01:01:10,738 --> 01:01:13,207
for a drug overage in 2021.
1224
01:01:13,207 --> 01:01:15,342
Man: Looking back,
what, if anything,
1225
01:01:15,342 --> 01:01:17,311
would you have
done differently?
1226
01:01:17,311 --> 01:01:18,679
Baffert: I probably wouldn't
have done anything different
1227
01:01:18,679 --> 01:01:21,749
because everything that
we were doing was legal.
1228
01:01:21,749 --> 01:01:24,418
We didn't break any rules
because the rules is...
1229
01:01:24,418 --> 01:01:27,421
Carstanjen:
We decided to continue
with Bob Baffert's suspension
1230
01:01:27,421 --> 01:01:29,590
for another year
because he hasn't
1231
01:01:29,590 --> 01:01:32,226
accepted responsibility
for what happened.
1232
01:01:32,226 --> 01:01:34,695
Woman: Bob Baffert
likely won't have any horses
1233
01:01:34,695 --> 01:01:37,064
run in the next Kentucky Derby
next year.
1234
01:01:37,064 --> 01:01:38,699
Churchill Downs
announced this afternoon
1235
01:01:38,699 --> 01:01:41,569
it is extending his suspension
through the end of 2024.
1236
01:01:41,569 --> 01:01:45,205
Carstanjen: It's about the game
and the product as a whole,
1237
01:01:45,205 --> 01:01:47,041
and it's about
ensuring to the public
1238
01:01:47,041 --> 01:01:51,345
that they can rely on what
they see being fair and safe.
1239
01:01:51,345 --> 01:01:53,747
The rules have to apply
to everybody.
1240
01:01:53,747 --> 01:01:55,583
Janney:
If you want to be the most
1241
01:01:55,583 --> 01:01:57,451
prominent part of the industry,
1242
01:01:57,451 --> 01:01:59,753
then you should make sure
that your conduct
1243
01:01:59,753 --> 01:02:03,223
is something that all in
the industry can be proud of.
1244
01:02:03,223 --> 01:02:21,308
♪
1245
01:02:21,308 --> 01:02:23,410
Motion:
I love what I do.
1246
01:02:23,410 --> 01:02:26,447
This sport has given me
everything I have.
1247
01:02:26,447 --> 01:02:29,216
But, personally,
I don't want to be part of it
1248
01:02:29,216 --> 01:02:32,219
if we can't clean up
our act, right?
1249
01:02:32,219 --> 01:02:34,755
Antonucci: It is a privilege
to do what we do.
1250
01:02:34,755 --> 01:02:38,759
It is not a right.
We've made so many mistakes.
1251
01:02:38,759 --> 01:02:42,630
But we continue to learn and
evolve and try and do better.
1252
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:44,732
♪
1253
01:02:44,732 --> 01:02:46,367
Papp:
I only want to be involved
1254
01:02:46,367 --> 01:02:48,569
with thoroughbred racehorse
industry
1255
01:02:48,569 --> 01:02:51,472
if it makes the change
for the better
1256
01:02:51,472 --> 01:02:53,741
and the horse welfare
comes first.
1257
01:02:53,741 --> 01:02:57,177
Not people trying
to make a quick buck.
1258
01:02:57,177 --> 01:02:59,613
The future of the sport
is very uncertain.
1259
01:02:59,613 --> 01:03:01,749
The littlest wind blow
1260
01:03:01,749 --> 01:03:05,352
can knock it over
and finish it at any point.
1261
01:03:05,352 --> 01:03:07,221
♪
1262
01:03:07,221 --> 01:03:10,090
Devall:
All four shoes. Yep.
1263
01:03:10,090 --> 01:03:12,092
And he wrote "Havnameltdown."
1264
01:03:12,092 --> 01:03:15,562
And he sent them to me.
1265
01:03:15,562 --> 01:03:19,333
I just want to say I miss him.
I do.
1266
01:03:19,333 --> 01:03:22,303
But I'm gonna raise another one.
1267
01:03:22,303 --> 01:03:24,404
Can't give up.
It's too much fun.
1268
01:03:28,642 --> 01:04:03,009
♪
1269
01:04:07,347 --> 01:04:33,273
♪