1 00:00:11,173 --> 00:00:14,553  [upbeat low bass]  2 00:00:35,993 --> 00:00:36,973    [vehicle screeching to a stop]    3 00:00:37,173 --> 00:00:40,743  [low bass continues]  4 00:00:54,593 --> 00:00:56,303  [crowd chattering]  5 00:00:57,683 --> 00:00:59,853      [Host] Good evening to all.          How exciting is this?  6 00:01:00,053 --> 00:01:03,813  Come on, you gotta give it   up for the Café Carlyle, right?    7 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:07,653  New York City...   2020?  8 00:01:07,853 --> 00:01:10,993      It's really been a pleasure          to introduce this guy.  9 00:01:11,193 --> 00:01:12,723       One of the most bon vivant.     10 00:01:12,923 --> 00:01:16,373  I said it again, elegant,       super intelligent,  11 00:01:16,573 --> 00:01:18,243  nicest guy in the   restaurant, right?  12 00:01:18,443 --> 00:01:21,563       To Mara, the beautiful Mara,          tells us what's going on.  13 00:01:21,763 --> 00:01:23,503  The note comes under   the door, right?  14 00:01:23,703 --> 00:01:26,903      We don't know, Buster       Poindexter, David Johansen,     15 00:01:27,103 --> 00:01:29,093  Rama Lama Ding Dong!  16 00:01:29,293 --> 00:01:30,303    He's got a personality crisis.    17 00:01:30,503 --> 00:01:32,323  He's gonna bring it   all to you right now, OK?      18 00:01:32,523 --> 00:01:35,283  He's also got the best pompadour   in the business.  19 00:01:35,483 --> 00:01:37,283  He's here in person.   Wait, he's right there.  20 00:01:37,483 --> 00:01:41,433  Ladies and gentlemen,   Buster Poindexter,   David Johansen!  21 00:01:41,633 --> 00:01:44,643  [crowd cheering as   upbeat piano starts]  22 00:01:53,193 --> 00:01:56,683    You're funky,    funky but chic   23 00:01:56,883 --> 00:02:00,203        A funky, funky but chic      24 00:02:00,403 --> 00:02:02,833       Your funky, funky but chic   25 00:02:03,033 --> 00:02:03,703  All right.  26 00:02:03,903 --> 00:02:05,313       You funky, but, funky but     27 00:02:05,513 --> 00:02:07,253    All right, all right, all      right   28 00:02:07,453 --> 00:02:11,373    Got a pair of shoes    somebody gave me   29 00:02:13,003 --> 00:02:15,553    My momma thinks I    look pretty fruity   30 00:02:15,753 --> 00:02:18,723   But in jeans I feel rockin'     31 00:02:20,383 --> 00:02:23,523    I don't wear nothin',    not too fussy or neat   32 00:02:23,723 --> 00:02:25,233       I just want somethin' baby   33 00:02:25,433 --> 00:02:27,063    To be able to walk    down your street   34 00:02:27,263 --> 00:02:29,613        Hey, come on baby, let's            get on down to the boutique   35 00:02:29,813 --> 00:02:32,783    Bring back somethin'    that's a funky but chic      36 00:02:32,983 --> 00:02:35,863    I said funky,    funky but chic   37 00:02:36,063 --> 00:02:37,073  That's right, boy.  38 00:02:37,273 --> 00:02:38,823   [Band]    Funky, funky but chic   39 00:02:39,023 --> 00:02:42,603    I tell you I'll get    down in any neighborhood      40 00:02:42,803 --> 00:02:46,463        My friends will take me      41 00:02:46,663 --> 00:02:48,903    The people out there    they all itch and bitch      42 00:02:49,103 --> 00:02:52,713    Lord, I swear they    gonna break me   43 00:02:52,913 --> 00:02:55,743    Well, I fly just    to get downtown   44 00:02:55,943 --> 00:03:00,093        Where everybody's crazy      45 00:03:00,293 --> 00:03:02,553       I fly on down that street     46 00:03:02,763 --> 00:03:05,503   Them folks stop acting lazy     47 00:03:05,703 --> 00:03:06,833  And I say...  48 00:03:07,033 --> 00:03:10,273    I don't wear nothing    not to fussy or neat   49 00:03:10,473 --> 00:03:11,883       I just want somethin' baby   50 00:03:12,083 --> 00:03:13,903    To be able to fly    down your street   51 00:03:14,103 --> 00:03:16,593    Hey, get on baby,    who at the boutique   52 00:03:16,793 --> 00:03:20,413        Bring back something that's        a funky but chic, yeah   53 00:03:20,613 --> 00:03:22,203  [Backup singers]     Funky, funky but chic      54 00:03:22,403 --> 00:03:23,743    That's what I'm talking about.    55 00:03:23,943 --> 00:03:25,453    Funky, funky but chic       56 00:03:25,653 --> 00:03:27,123  Correct.  57 00:03:27,323 --> 00:03:29,063    Funky, funky but chic       58 00:03:29,263 --> 00:03:30,153  Oh, yeah!  59 00:03:30,343 --> 00:03:31,613        You funky but, funky but     60 00:03:31,803 --> 00:03:34,233    All right, all right,        all right   61 00:03:34,433 --> 00:03:36,793  [piano solo]  62 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:58,743       I got a little car, come on,       let's go driving 'round   63 00:03:58,943 --> 00:04:04,263    A '56 Mercedes-Benz    I had painted cocoa-brown     64 00:04:04,463 --> 00:04:05,703  It's brown.  65 00:04:05,903 --> 00:04:08,293    I don't drive nothin',        not too fussy or neat   66 00:04:08,493 --> 00:04:11,833    I just want somethin'        to be able to drive    down your street   67 00:04:12,033 --> 00:04:13,423   Hey, beep, beep, beep, baby     68 00:04:13,623 --> 00:04:15,043    Let's get down    to the boutique   69 00:04:15,243 --> 00:04:19,093        I'll bring back somethin'      that's a funky but chic, yeah     70 00:04:19,293 --> 00:04:21,243    Funky, funky but chic       71 00:04:21,443 --> 00:04:22,363  Oh, chic.  72 00:04:22,563 --> 00:04:23,703    Funky, funky but   73 00:04:23,903 --> 00:04:25,493    Oh très chic   74 00:04:25,693 --> 00:04:28,623     -[band]    Funky, funky but            - Oh what chic, now   75 00:04:28,823 --> 00:04:29,963        You funky but, funky but     76 00:04:30,153 --> 00:04:31,773    All right, all right,        all right   77 00:04:31,973 --> 00:04:33,853    All right, all right,    all right, all right   78 00:04:34,053 --> 00:04:37,403    Got a pair of shoes    somebody gave me   79 00:04:39,523 --> 00:04:41,703    My momma thinks I    look pretty fruity   80 00:04:41,903 --> 00:04:44,593   But in jeans I feel rockin'     81 00:04:44,793 --> 00:04:45,913  Cut 'em up!  82 00:04:46,113 --> 00:04:48,973    I don't wear nothin'    not too fussy or neat   83 00:04:49,173 --> 00:04:51,963    I just want somethin'        to be able to walk    down your street   84 00:04:52,163 --> 00:04:55,653    Hey get out of bed baby,       let's get on down to    the boutique   85 00:04:55,853 --> 00:04:59,543    I'll bring back somethin'      that's funky but chic   86 00:05:00,383 --> 00:05:01,423  Oh!  87 00:05:01,623 --> 00:05:03,593  -Yeah!   -[crowd cheers]  88 00:05:03,793 --> 00:05:05,393  Yeah!  89 00:05:05,593 --> 00:05:07,053  Yeah!  90 00:05:07,253 --> 00:05:09,183  All right, boys!  91 00:05:09,593 --> 00:05:11,233  Oh, yeah!  92 00:05:11,433 --> 00:05:13,353  All right.   Oh, yeah.  93 00:05:15,933 --> 00:05:18,383     [Conan O'Brien]   You were the           lead singer of        the New York Dolls.  94 00:05:18,583 --> 00:05:20,033  A lot of people credit you guys    95 00:05:20,233 --> 00:05:21,673  with really helping to   start the punk movement.  96 00:05:21,873 --> 00:05:23,343  Well, yeah, but   inadvertently, like,  97 00:05:23,543 --> 00:05:24,663      we didn't do it on purpose.     98 00:05:24,863 --> 00:05:26,453  [crowd laughs]  99 00:05:26,653 --> 00:05:28,833  We were in Newcastle and   it's a place in England  100 00:05:29,033 --> 00:05:31,913      where they make this beer       called Newcastle Brown Ale.     101 00:05:32,113 --> 00:05:34,543  And we were young men   and we had a reputation  102 00:05:34,743 --> 00:05:36,003  of being able to hold our booze.  103 00:05:36,203 --> 00:05:38,523      So they say, "Oh, boys, you          gotta try the local brew."      104 00:05:38,723 --> 00:05:41,283  And they give you   these gigantic cans of  105 00:05:41,483 --> 00:05:43,513  Newcastle Brown Ale.  106 00:05:43,713 --> 00:05:46,473  And we're at like the     Newcastle Polytechnic Institute  107 00:05:46,673 --> 00:05:47,783  or something for a show.  108 00:05:47,983 --> 00:05:50,123     We're drinking these things.         "Have another one."  109 00:05:50,323 --> 00:05:51,393  OK, Ok, another one.  110 00:05:51,593 --> 00:05:54,023  So we drank maybe 10   of these things... and...      111 00:05:54,223 --> 00:05:55,103  [Conan laughs]  112 00:05:55,303 --> 00:05:56,483  Maybe, maybe 10.  113 00:05:56,683 --> 00:05:59,153      We go on stage to play and       everything is going fine.      114 00:05:59,353 --> 00:06:05,453     All of a sudden, the drummer         barfs about 12 gallons  115 00:06:05,653 --> 00:06:08,493  of Brown ale onto   his snare drum,  116 00:06:08,693 --> 00:06:10,243  but he keeps playing.  117 00:06:10,443 --> 00:06:11,833  [Conan laughing]  118 00:06:12,033 --> 00:06:17,713      And so, you know, a good       dollop of it hits me right           in the nose  119 00:06:17,913 --> 00:06:20,233      and you know how that is,       it's like a chain reaction.     120 00:06:20,433 --> 00:06:21,693  Yeah, I know how that is.      121 00:06:21,893 --> 00:06:24,193     Why would I know how that is?        I don't know how that is.  122 00:06:24,393 --> 00:06:28,203    Well, I let loose and then the       bass player let loose,  123 00:06:28,403 --> 00:06:29,473     the guitar player let loose,     124 00:06:29,673 --> 00:06:31,743  the audience was like...   [gasping]  125 00:06:31,943 --> 00:06:33,223  Everybody's throwing up  126 00:06:33,423 --> 00:06:36,443      and at the end of the song,          everybody's like, "Yeah!"  127 00:06:36,643 --> 00:06:37,963  [Conan laughing]  128 00:06:38,163 --> 00:06:39,713  And they thought it   was part of the act  129 00:06:39,913 --> 00:06:42,903      and then all the kids in       England started doing this.     130 00:06:43,103 --> 00:06:45,363     It became the rigor of, uh...    131 00:06:45,903 --> 00:06:47,453  Oh, we gotta throw       up like The Dolls!  132 00:06:47,653 --> 00:06:48,933     You know, that kind of thing.    133 00:06:49,133 --> 00:06:50,783     And that's... that's how the         punk movement was born.  134 00:06:50,983 --> 00:06:52,623      I would say that was the...          if you wanted to bring it  135 00:06:52,823 --> 00:06:56,293  down to a moment in time,       that was the moment.  136 00:06:56,493 --> 00:07:01,503  -[crowd cheering]   -[soulful music]  137 00:07:01,703 --> 00:07:04,693     [David]   It's super sensuous,           transcendental  138 00:07:04,893 --> 00:07:09,933     something not to be      explained in rational terms.     139 00:07:10,133 --> 00:07:13,013     It's the   Mansion of Fun show.    140 00:07:13,383 --> 00:07:16,273    I hear that melody   141 00:07:16,473 --> 00:07:18,233    On the street   142 00:07:18,433 --> 00:07:20,233    My melody   143 00:07:20,433 --> 00:07:22,613    Soft and sweet   144 00:07:22,813 --> 00:07:28,693    Your melody, would you        sing that song to me   145 00:07:32,073 --> 00:07:34,533    Melodies hauntin' me       146 00:07:36,413 --> 00:07:39,753    Memories just repeat       147 00:07:39,953 --> 00:07:46,003    Your melodies even    haunt me in my sleep   148 00:07:48,293 --> 00:07:52,843    I tried to show you,    you just couldn't see it      149 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:57,723   I tried to tell you, but your     heart couldn't hear it   150 00:07:57,923 --> 00:07:59,433   I tried to love you, but ya     151 00:07:59,643 --> 00:08:03,023   Your heart had to slip away     152 00:08:04,943 --> 00:08:09,233    Now that melody's    hauntin' me   153 00:08:10,113 --> 00:08:13,723    Melody got that beat       154 00:08:13,923 --> 00:08:20,083    The memory just    repeats in my mind   155 00:08:22,873 --> 00:08:26,043        A melody, where I dance      156 00:08:26,243 --> 00:08:30,633    In the place    that I find romance   157 00:08:30,833 --> 00:08:36,093    Your melody just won't        give me a chance   158 00:08:39,053 --> 00:08:43,773        I tried to show you, but            your heart couldn't see it     159 00:08:43,973 --> 00:08:47,943        I tried to tell you, but            your heart couldn't hear it   160 00:08:48,143 --> 00:08:54,113        I tried to love you, but            your heart had to slip away   161 00:08:55,153 --> 00:08:56,623    Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah       162 00:08:56,823 --> 00:08:59,023    Melody   163 00:08:59,213 --> 00:09:00,753    Yeah, yeah, yeah   164 00:09:00,953 --> 00:09:02,853    Melody   165 00:09:03,053 --> 00:09:05,583    Yeah, yeah, yeah   166 00:09:12,843 --> 00:09:17,283    Well certain songs    I just can't take it   167 00:09:17,483 --> 00:09:21,813        They start to play and        my old heart starts achin'     168 00:09:22,013 --> 00:09:25,403    Certain songs,    I just can't fake it   169 00:09:25,603 --> 00:09:29,733    They start to play and    I just want to break 'em      170 00:09:29,933 --> 00:09:31,113    I just can't take it       171 00:09:31,313 --> 00:09:35,613    When I hear them    play that song   172 00:09:36,903 --> 00:09:39,493    Yeah that melody   173 00:09:39,693 --> 00:09:41,143    Haunting me   174 00:09:41,343 --> 00:09:46,123    A tender rhapsody,    soft and sweet   175 00:09:46,323 --> 00:09:49,923    The memory follows me       176 00:09:50,123 --> 00:09:51,843    'Til it's insanity   177 00:09:52,043 --> 00:09:53,593    Driving me   178 00:09:53,793 --> 00:09:58,073    Now my melody's    on the street   179 00:09:58,273 --> 00:10:02,353    Oh, melody,    soft and sweet   180 00:10:02,553 --> 00:10:06,483    Oh, melody   181 00:10:06,683 --> 00:10:09,713    Yeah, yeah, melody   182 00:10:09,913 --> 00:10:13,993    Yeah, my melody   183 00:10:14,193 --> 00:10:19,533    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah      184 00:10:22,783 --> 00:10:25,533  [crowd cheers]  185 00:10:27,583 --> 00:10:29,543  Where am I?  186 00:10:30,413 --> 00:10:32,383  Who am I?  187 00:10:33,253 --> 00:10:37,713  [imitating animal sounds]      188 00:10:46,183 --> 00:10:49,603    Ahhhh, ahhhh   189 00:10:49,813 --> 00:10:52,193    Ahhhh, ahhhh   190 00:10:52,393 --> 00:10:54,233    Well, I'm stranded    in the jungle   191 00:10:54,433 --> 00:10:56,033       I'm trying to keep a date     192 00:10:56,233 --> 00:10:59,323        With my little girl,        that was back in the States   193 00:10:59,523 --> 00:11:02,953        I'm stranded in the jungle,        I'm afraid of it all   194 00:11:03,153 --> 00:11:05,873    Wondering how I could    get a message back home      195 00:11:06,073 --> 00:11:09,193        But how was I to know that          the wreckage of my plane       196 00:11:09,393 --> 00:11:10,943    Had been picked up    and spotted   197 00:11:11,143 --> 00:11:12,773    By the girl    on Lover's Lane   198 00:11:12,973 --> 00:11:16,793    I said, meanwhile,    back in the States   199 00:11:20,213 --> 00:11:22,513    Baby, baby   200 00:11:22,713 --> 00:11:26,003    Let's make romance   201 00:11:26,203 --> 00:11:32,273    Your old-time love    hasn't got a chance   202 00:11:32,473 --> 00:11:35,483        I said he's stranded in the        jungle, bad as he can be       203 00:11:35,683 --> 00:11:38,553    Come on, pretty darling,       just you and me   204 00:11:38,753 --> 00:11:43,073    Oh yeah, oh yeah   205 00:11:43,283 --> 00:11:46,123  Meanwhile, back in the jungle...  206 00:11:46,323 --> 00:11:48,583    Ahhhh, ahhhh   207 00:11:48,783 --> 00:11:49,983    Ahhhh, ahhhh   208 00:11:50,183 --> 00:11:51,773 [interviewer]   Why come    to a New York Dolls show?     209 00:11:51,973 --> 00:11:53,343 [David]   A lot of kids are        like whipped dogs  210 00:11:53,543 --> 00:11:55,303      and they feel like they're       really terribly alienated      211 00:11:55,503 --> 00:11:57,193  And I think we give 'em a       feeling that they're not  212 00:11:57,393 --> 00:11:59,033  the same people that   feel these feelings  213 00:11:59,233 --> 00:12:00,613  not the only people   that feel these feelings  214 00:12:00,813 --> 00:12:01,973      and that they're not alone.     215 00:12:02,173 --> 00:12:03,723   They all can come    together on our show  216 00:12:03,923 --> 00:12:05,583   and see each other    and meet each other.  217 00:12:05,783 --> 00:12:07,773     [Sylvain]   There's a thousand           bands that are coming up  218 00:12:07,973 --> 00:12:10,813  like from the streets,   from the ghetto.  219 00:12:48,933 --> 00:12:50,103  [crowd cheers]  220 00:12:50,303 --> 00:12:52,273  [Billy] 1,2,3,4!  221 00:12:52,473 --> 00:12:53,983    Trash, go pick it up       222 00:12:54,183 --> 00:12:55,983    Take them lights away       223 00:12:56,183 --> 00:12:57,863    Trash, go pick it up       224 00:12:58,063 --> 00:13:00,113       Don't take your life away     225 00:13:00,313 --> 00:13:01,763    Trash, go pick it up       226 00:13:01,963 --> 00:13:05,933    Don't try to take    my knife away   227 00:13:06,133 --> 00:13:10,663    And please don't you    ask me if I love you   228 00:13:11,283 --> 00:13:14,273    If you don't know    what I'm doing   229 00:13:14,473 --> 00:13:15,813    What you know is   230 00:13:16,013 --> 00:13:18,153        Trash, go pick it up...      231 00:13:18,353 --> 00:13:20,283     [interviewer] Now, is it      true that you were president     232 00:13:20,483 --> 00:13:23,093  -of their fan club?   -No. Not at all.  233 00:13:23,293 --> 00:13:25,223      Well, were... were you       involved in their fan club?     234 00:13:25,423 --> 00:13:26,453  No. Not even slightly.  235 00:13:26,653 --> 00:13:27,993  -[interviewer] A member?   -Not even a member.  236 00:13:28,193 --> 00:13:29,353  Tempted to send off   of town for four months?  237 00:13:29,553 --> 00:13:31,163  -Yes, it's all true.   -Yeah.  238 00:13:31,363 --> 00:13:32,293  -It's all true.   -It is true.  239 00:13:32,493 --> 00:13:34,083  You were in the fan club,       you denied it.  240 00:13:34,283 --> 00:13:36,543  -But it's true, isn't it?       -I, I, I, I, I...   was the fan club.  241 00:13:36,743 --> 00:13:37,943  I was the fan club.  242 00:13:38,143 --> 00:13:39,193  And what was it that drew           you to The New York Dolls?      243 00:13:39,393 --> 00:13:40,633     Well, they were very violent.    244 00:13:40,833 --> 00:13:42,943      They were very witty and       they were very intelligent.     245 00:13:43,143 --> 00:13:48,263  And as you know, most pop   stars are not very intelligent.    246 00:13:48,463 --> 00:13:52,793      and they're not very witty           and not very violent.  247 00:13:52,993 --> 00:13:53,643  Right.  248 00:13:53,843 --> 00:13:58,083 [playing   Suedehead]  249 00:13:59,423 --> 00:14:04,673       And why-ha-hy ha-ha ha-hy     250 00:14:04,873 --> 00:14:08,763    Why do you hang around      251 00:14:11,763 --> 00:14:16,693    I'm so sorry   252 00:14:16,893 --> 00:14:22,773    I-I-I-I'm so sorry   253 00:14:24,063 --> 00:14:25,863   It was a good lay, good lay     254 00:14:26,063 --> 00:14:27,683    Ah ha   255 00:14:27,883 --> 00:14:31,603     [interviewer]   Do you remember         when you first saw the Dolls?    256 00:14:31,803 --> 00:14:35,913  Mm, yes. I had gone to   see them live in '72,  257 00:14:36,113 --> 00:14:39,613   but their drummer had    died three days earlier.      258 00:14:39,813 --> 00:14:43,233  And everybody was expecting   the Dolls to walk on the stage.    259 00:14:43,433 --> 00:14:44,653   And of course they didn't.     260 00:14:44,853 --> 00:14:46,993   There was just suddenly an       announcement that  261 00:14:47,193 --> 00:14:52,123       Billy had died        and everybody just collapsed.  262 00:14:52,323 --> 00:14:56,523   And then the next    encounter was television.     263 00:14:56,723 --> 00:14:58,393  They, they appeared   very famously  264 00:14:58,603 --> 00:15:00,383     on   The Old Grey Whistle Test     265 00:15:00,583 --> 00:15:06,093  which in those very   dark days of '73  266 00:15:06,293 --> 00:15:07,363  was a fantastic vision.  267 00:15:07,563 --> 00:15:11,323     People forget how      absolutely dank things were,     268 00:15:11,523 --> 00:15:15,143  how dank life was   and pop art was.  269 00:15:15,343 --> 00:15:16,603  And there was no,  270 00:15:16,803 --> 00:15:23,253     there was no sense of danger         within pop music at all.  271 00:15:23,453 --> 00:15:24,903   But I was obsessive.  272 00:15:25,103 --> 00:15:27,363   I was, I was    ridiculously obsessive.      273 00:15:27,563 --> 00:15:28,883  This, this was the band for me.    274 00:15:29,083 --> 00:15:30,683   This was the turning    point for me.  275 00:15:30,883 --> 00:15:32,913     [interviewer]   Why have so few          people heard New York Dolls?    276 00:15:33,113 --> 00:15:34,453 [Morrissey]   This is    a blighted band.  277 00:15:34,653 --> 00:15:37,753  I'd almost say cursed   because if you listen to,      278 00:15:37,953 --> 00:15:41,463    if you listen to, to,     to the... the music they made,    279 00:15:41,663 --> 00:15:44,193  every single song is   really a hit single.  280 00:15:44,393 --> 00:15:47,803    And there's no reason on earth       why it shouldn't have happened.  281 00:15:48,003 --> 00:15:49,383  But because they were connected    282 00:15:49,583 --> 00:15:55,313   with drugs and absurdly        transgender issues.  283 00:15:55,513 --> 00:15:58,453   So here were boys who were       calling themselves "Dolls"     284 00:15:58,663 --> 00:16:04,153      and they looked like       prostitutes, male prostitutes,  285 00:16:04,353 --> 00:16:06,753  which at the time,   you have to remember,  286 00:16:06,963 --> 00:16:08,213  it was a long time ago  287 00:16:08,413 --> 00:16:11,913    and all... and all of that kind       of thing was really taboo.      288 00:16:12,113 --> 00:16:14,373  And if a man walked  289 00:16:14,573 --> 00:16:17,143  down the street wearing   women's clothes,  290 00:16:17,343 --> 00:16:19,543  he could be arrested   and thrown into jail.  291 00:16:19,743 --> 00:16:23,003   That's why they only made       two studio albums.  292 00:16:23,203 --> 00:16:26,053   And for a group who    did so little really  293 00:16:26,243 --> 00:16:29,013   and existed for such    a short amount of time,      294 00:16:29,213 --> 00:16:30,683   their impact has    been extraordinary.  295 00:16:30,873 --> 00:16:36,493     And the music, because it was        such fantastic pop music,  296 00:16:36,693 --> 00:16:37,623     it, it just seemed to me like    297 00:16:37,823 --> 00:16:39,933  the absolute answer   to everything.  298 00:16:40,133 --> 00:16:43,983  Which of course...   too dangerous.  299 00:16:44,183 --> 00:16:47,753      [sad, solemn music playing]     300 00:17:06,603 --> 00:17:10,573 [David]   I just want    to be like very welcoming.     301 00:17:10,773 --> 00:17:16,223    'Cause the way the society is,       I mean, it, it was set up is      302 00:17:16,423 --> 00:17:19,413  like very strict, like...      303 00:17:19,613 --> 00:17:22,833  straight, gay...  304 00:17:23,033 --> 00:17:24,193  whatever, vegetarian,  305 00:17:24,393 --> 00:17:28,653    whatever you want to, you know,   anything you want to say.      306 00:17:28,853 --> 00:17:34,493     I just wanted to kind of like        bring those walls down and...    307 00:17:34,693 --> 00:17:38,123  and have a party   kind of a thing.  308 00:17:38,323 --> 00:17:41,803    [soft instrumental music plays]  309 00:17:43,223 --> 00:17:46,143  [crowd claps]  310 00:17:53,443 --> 00:17:57,803  Oh, man, this is great.   This is very nice.  311 00:17:58,003 --> 00:18:02,333  This is a classy boîte,   the Café Carlyle.  312 00:18:02,533 --> 00:18:07,383  And we are starting our   semi-annual bisexual--  313 00:18:07,583 --> 00:18:09,093  What am I talking about?  314 00:18:09,293 --> 00:18:15,593  Bi-annual residency.   And the cafe called Mara,      315 00:18:15,793 --> 00:18:19,143  who runs this whole   shebang up here and asked      316 00:18:19,343 --> 00:18:20,433      if we'd like to come back.      317 00:18:20,633 --> 00:18:21,853  She said, "Yes."  318 00:18:22,053 --> 00:18:24,933     No, we love it here because,         I'll tell you why,  319 00:18:25,133 --> 00:18:27,023    you take the elevator to work.    320 00:18:27,223 --> 00:18:31,323  My whole life I've   been schlepping.  321 00:18:31,523 --> 00:18:34,443  Oh, in some ungodly conveyances.  322 00:18:34,643 --> 00:18:36,193  [crowd applauds]  323 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:41,013  Then came the... the question of   what kind of a repertoire we  324 00:18:41,213 --> 00:18:44,833    would present because you have        to have a new one every year.    325 00:18:45,033 --> 00:18:48,063  And I was in no mood   for learning 20 songs.  326 00:18:48,263 --> 00:18:50,333  There's only so   many hours in a day.  327 00:18:50,543 --> 00:18:51,883  [crowd laughs]  328 00:18:52,083 --> 00:18:56,323     So we decided that we      would do Buster Poindexter--     329 00:18:56,523 --> 00:18:58,243  That's me--  330 00:18:58,443 --> 00:19:02,953      singing the songs of       David Johansen-- that's me.     331 00:19:03,153 --> 00:19:04,663     [audience murmurs, applauds]     332 00:19:04,863 --> 00:19:06,723      Because I know those songs.     333 00:19:09,313 --> 00:19:11,673    And so here we are, both of us.  334 00:19:11,873 --> 00:19:17,653  And... tonight, I'm gonna do   songs that I wrote or co-wrote,    335 00:19:17,853 --> 00:19:22,303  I guess from when I was a   teenager, all the way up to now.  336 00:19:22,503 --> 00:19:26,853    And the one thing I could say,       the unifying thing  337 00:19:27,053 --> 00:19:33,003  of my existence, is that there's   always been plenty of music.  338 00:19:33,203 --> 00:19:35,153     [piano plays   Plenty of Music]    339 00:19:35,353 --> 00:19:40,803  That's nice. Very nice.  340 00:19:50,773 --> 00:19:53,483    Feeling a great    sadness today   341 00:19:53,683 --> 00:19:57,613    I don't want to shush        it or shoo it away   342 00:19:57,813 --> 00:20:03,403    It belongs to the whole        world, the boys and girls     343 00:20:04,323 --> 00:20:07,623    It ain't just mine   344 00:20:07,823 --> 00:20:10,903    Like joy and love,    it's always there   345 00:20:11,093 --> 00:20:15,423        I don't know how I tune in,        or why that I care   346 00:20:15,623 --> 00:20:20,763    But I can't pretend it        don't feel like the end       347 00:20:20,963 --> 00:20:25,473    And everything is fine      348 00:20:25,673 --> 00:20:29,483    I feel exiled    from the divine   349 00:20:29,683 --> 00:20:33,673    Me and these sad    friends of mine   350 00:20:33,873 --> 00:20:39,423   We're just waiting down here,     drinking beer   351 00:20:39,623 --> 00:20:42,663    And losing time   352 00:20:42,863 --> 00:20:46,763    Well, I hear    plenty of music   353 00:20:46,963 --> 00:20:52,423    I see superfluous    beauty everywhere   354 00:20:52,623 --> 00:20:54,793    Why should I care   355 00:20:54,993 --> 00:20:59,903       What does it matter to me     356 00:21:00,103 --> 00:21:01,503  [piano solo]  357 00:21:02,093 --> 00:21:03,513  Yeah, yeah.  358 00:21:05,133 --> 00:21:06,513  All right, now.  359 00:21:17,733 --> 00:21:22,363    The myth of life    is a song   360 00:21:22,563 --> 00:21:24,193  Yeah!  361 00:21:24,943 --> 00:21:30,123    And nature, too,    that's the song  362 00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:32,503  All right.  363 00:21:32,703 --> 00:21:35,793       Don't you destroy the song   364 00:21:35,993 --> 00:21:40,343    'Cause when    the song is gone   365 00:21:40,543 --> 00:21:46,723    You'll be gone too   366 00:21:46,923 --> 00:21:51,043    I don't know    how it went astray   367 00:21:51,243 --> 00:21:55,293    Seem like the whole world      is an ashtray   368 00:21:55,493 --> 00:21:56,693    Floatin' around   369 00:21:56,893 --> 00:22:02,403    Some broken-down,    low-end galaxy   370 00:22:03,153 --> 00:22:06,893    I don't know what I    did to get sent here   371 00:22:07,093 --> 00:22:10,533    Must have been some    bad that I done   372 00:22:10,743 --> 00:22:12,753   There in the world gone mad     373 00:22:12,953 --> 00:22:15,143    Feeling sad   374 00:22:15,343 --> 00:22:16,173  [sighs]  375 00:22:16,373 --> 00:22:18,523    I guess I'm sorry   376 00:22:18,723 --> 00:22:22,763    I don't need    no one to love me   377 00:22:22,963 --> 00:22:25,633   Or place theirself above me     378 00:22:25,833 --> 00:22:30,493    What does it matter,    I don't need a ladder   379 00:22:30,693 --> 00:22:33,853    What's it to me   380 00:22:34,053 --> 00:22:37,753    I hear plenty of music      381 00:22:37,953 --> 00:22:41,273        I see superfluous beauty     382 00:22:41,473 --> 00:22:42,693    Everywhere   383 00:22:42,893 --> 00:22:44,743    So why should I care       384 00:22:44,943 --> 00:22:48,533    What does it matter   385 00:22:48,733 --> 00:22:52,603    Yeah, I hear    plenty of music   386 00:22:52,803 --> 00:22:55,663        I see superfluous beauty     387 00:22:55,863 --> 00:22:57,673    Everywhere   388 00:22:57,873 --> 00:23:00,253    Why should I care   389 00:23:00,453 --> 00:23:05,003       What does it matter to me     390 00:23:05,463 --> 00:23:08,463    What's it matter to me      391 00:23:09,383 --> 00:23:12,643    Nothing matters to me       392 00:23:12,843 --> 00:23:19,173       What's the matter with me     393 00:23:19,373 --> 00:23:20,153  Oh!  394 00:23:20,353 --> 00:23:23,193  [crowd cheers]  395 00:23:25,693 --> 00:23:28,363  Beautiful.   Beautiful.  396 00:23:29,573 --> 00:23:33,033  [guitar playing]  397 00:23:41,293 --> 00:23:44,823    Poor boy   398 00:23:45,023 --> 00:23:51,013    Poor boy   399 00:23:51,213 --> 00:23:57,893   Poor boy long way from home     400 00:23:58,093 --> 00:24:04,323    When I was down    in Louisiana   401 00:24:04,523 --> 00:24:09,433    Just doing as I please      402 00:24:09,623 --> 00:24:14,283    Now I'm in Texas   403 00:24:14,483 --> 00:24:20,083    I got to work or leave      404 00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:24,573    Poor boy   405 00:24:24,763 --> 00:24:26,693 [interviewer]   You    actually knew Harry Smith?     406 00:24:26,893 --> 00:24:29,383    Well, I didn't really know him,  407 00:24:29,583 --> 00:24:32,033  but I met him a couple of times.  408 00:24:32,233 --> 00:24:34,553  [interviewer] You went to       his place at The Chelsea?      409 00:24:35,383 --> 00:24:36,493  Yeah, probably, yeah.  410 00:24:36,693 --> 00:24:38,553  [interviewer] What   was his room like?  411 00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:41,503  [chuckles]  412 00:24:41,703 --> 00:24:43,883     It was kinda like, you know,     413 00:24:44,083 --> 00:24:48,053  a speed den,   I think at the time.  414 00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:50,403  You know, like when I was a kid    415 00:24:50,603 --> 00:24:51,953       you would go to The Chelsea     416 00:24:52,153 --> 00:24:53,763   and you'd get stuck    in there for like a week,     417 00:24:53,963 --> 00:24:56,893   going to different    people's rooms and stuff.     418 00:24:57,093 --> 00:24:58,993   I was probably 18 at    the time, you know,  419 00:24:59,203 --> 00:25:05,113  so I would like to go see   people that were generally older  420 00:25:05,313 --> 00:25:07,043  and could impart   some kind of wisdom.  421 00:25:07,243 --> 00:25:10,073 [interviewer]   Was Harry    Smith one of those people?     422 00:25:10,273 --> 00:25:15,593  Well, I, you know...   [laughs]  423 00:25:17,633 --> 00:25:18,933  He could have been.  424 00:25:19,133 --> 00:25:21,623      -[interviewer] Who's this?           -[David] Who's who?  425 00:25:21,823 --> 00:25:23,563  [interviewer] This guy.  426 00:25:23,763 --> 00:25:26,403  -Oh, that's Harry Smith.   -[interviewer] Oh.  427 00:25:26,603 --> 00:25:28,753  He was, you know,   like a polymath.  428 00:25:28,953 --> 00:25:31,403  This guy was into a lot   of really good shit.  429 00:25:31,603 --> 00:25:35,033      He would be into something      430 00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:38,583  and then he would be like           through with it, you know?      431 00:25:38,783 --> 00:25:40,893   When he was young,    he started out,  432 00:25:41,093 --> 00:25:43,563   he would hang with    the Lummi people.  433 00:25:43,763 --> 00:25:45,373   He recorded their    traditional music  434 00:25:45,573 --> 00:25:50,343       and he made a lot of like        experimental films later on.    435 00:25:50,543 --> 00:25:54,283      He would put ads in       newspapers around the country,  436 00:25:54,483 --> 00:25:56,283   asking people if they    wanted to get rid  437 00:25:56,483 --> 00:25:59,123   of their old 78s that    were in the attic.  438 00:25:59,323 --> 00:26:01,623   I mean, you know,    he was the kind of guy  439 00:26:01,823 --> 00:26:05,183   who would collect string,       you know what I mean?  440 00:26:05,853 --> 00:26:09,293   His record collection    is pivotal  441 00:26:09,493 --> 00:26:15,953   in the American music    and rock and roll  442 00:26:16,153 --> 00:26:17,973     and the folk boom in the 50s.    443 00:26:18,173 --> 00:26:20,993  Everybody who wanted   to be a folk singer  444 00:26:21,193 --> 00:26:26,493  in the 1950s would learn   songs from those records.      445 00:26:27,753 --> 00:26:31,173  And there was a lot of   different kinds of songs.      446 00:26:35,053 --> 00:26:37,323  [guitar playing]  447 00:26:37,523 --> 00:26:41,643 [David]   He picked like, you           know, really strange tunes.     448 00:26:41,843 --> 00:26:43,313 [interviewer]   You    recorded a lot of songs      449 00:26:43,513 --> 00:26:46,043   from the Harry Smith    record collection  450 00:26:46,243 --> 00:26:49,233   and you named your    band The Harry Smiths.  451 00:26:49,433 --> 00:26:52,733   Would you say that he's    someone who inspired you?     452 00:26:53,773 --> 00:26:55,233  Not at all.  453 00:26:56,903 --> 00:27:00,683    [Interviewer chuckles]     Well, you're very averse to...    454 00:27:00,883 --> 00:27:05,003  No, because he was such   a grouch, this guy.  455 00:27:05,203 --> 00:27:08,083  I mean, I liked a lot   of the stuff he did,  456 00:27:08,283 --> 00:27:13,363     but I never thought, "Oh wow,        I wish I could do that."  457 00:27:13,563 --> 00:27:17,703    Poor boy   458 00:27:17,903 --> 00:27:22,103    Poor boy   459 00:27:22,303 --> 00:27:23,663 [David]   I grew up    in Staten Island  460 00:27:23,863 --> 00:27:26,353   in a house that my    grandfather built.  461 00:27:26,553 --> 00:27:29,463   We had a lot of    records in the house.  462 00:27:29,663 --> 00:27:30,883   Music was on all the time.     463 00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:32,963   You know, sometimes    there would play a show      464 00:27:33,163 --> 00:27:36,743   while we were having dinner      or something, you know.  465 00:27:36,943 --> 00:27:39,863  [interviewer] What   about your dad singing?  466 00:27:40,063 --> 00:27:41,623  What about it?  467 00:27:41,823 --> 00:27:42,703  [interviewer] Like,   did you sing with  468 00:27:42,903 --> 00:27:44,243      your dad around the house?      469 00:27:44,443 --> 00:27:47,433    Uh no, not so much,     but he was a very good singer.    470 00:27:47,633 --> 00:27:50,983       He used sing like light opera        like Gilbert and Sullivan.      471 00:27:51,183 --> 00:27:52,483   He knew a lot of operas.      472 00:27:52,683 --> 00:27:55,793    [interviewer]   How old were you         when you had your first band?    473 00:27:57,343 --> 00:27:58,803     [David]   Thirteen or fourteen.    474 00:27:59,003 --> 00:28:04,123     We used to play at you know,         like school dances  475 00:28:04,323 --> 00:28:07,183      and we used to go into       the "Battle of the Bands."      476 00:28:07,383 --> 00:28:12,273  We always used to come in   second because this other group    477 00:28:12,473 --> 00:28:15,273  from the ass end   of Staten Island,  478 00:28:16,273 --> 00:28:18,883  used to play these songs   with like The Ventures,  479 00:28:19,083 --> 00:28:22,473  like with the guitars   behind their head,  480 00:28:22,673 --> 00:28:25,223     which I always saw felt like,        that's really a lame gimmick.    481 00:28:25,423 --> 00:28:28,663      But... they won every time.     482 00:28:28,863 --> 00:28:30,833   I remember the first    time we played  483 00:28:31,033 --> 00:28:34,193   I remember the first song,          Boogaloo Down Broadway  484 00:28:34,393 --> 00:28:36,173   by the fantastic Johnny C.     485 00:28:36,373 --> 00:28:38,073  -You know that song?   -[interviewer] No.  486 00:28:38,273 --> 00:28:40,513  [hums song]  487 00:28:40,713 --> 00:28:42,763    Baby, oh baby   488 00:28:42,963 --> 00:28:44,933    Boogaloo down Broadway      489 00:28:45,133 --> 00:28:48,253       Yeah, yeah, funky Broadway   490 00:28:48,443 --> 00:28:51,943  I closed my eyes for   the whole first song...  491 00:28:52,143 --> 00:28:56,173  and then I could hear   them all applauding  492 00:28:56,373 --> 00:28:58,053  and I opened my eyes  493 00:28:58,253 --> 00:28:59,973  and I was like,   "Oh, they like it."  494 00:29:00,163 --> 00:29:02,783  OK, here we go.  495 00:29:02,983 --> 00:29:05,823  I'm gonna just reminisce   for a minute here, but...      496 00:29:06,953 --> 00:29:08,243  [clears throat]  497 00:29:08,443 --> 00:29:10,123      ...it's my birthday today.      498 00:29:10,323 --> 00:29:13,103  [crowd cheering]  499 00:29:13,303 --> 00:29:17,943  And I'm such a   sentimental old fool.  500 00:29:18,143 --> 00:29:23,113  I was recalling how   when I was like 16,  501 00:29:23,313 --> 00:29:26,353      my friends and I went to...     502 00:29:26,553 --> 00:29:30,103     and I had a very interesting         group of friends,  503 00:29:30,303 --> 00:29:33,833     kind of like Maynard G. Krebs        type people.  504 00:29:34,033 --> 00:29:38,853  The New York Avant   Garde Festival was...  505 00:29:39,733 --> 00:29:41,923  held on the ferry boat.  506 00:29:42,123 --> 00:29:45,973  So we went to see   Charlotte Moormon  507 00:29:46,173 --> 00:29:48,763  -play the cello topless.   -[audience chuckles]  508 00:29:48,963 --> 00:29:51,533  That's the kind of   crowd we ran with.  509 00:29:51,993 --> 00:29:53,143  [crowd laughing]  510 00:29:53,343 --> 00:29:58,843  We liked a little culture       with our pornography.  511 00:29:59,043 --> 00:30:01,263  [crowd laughing]  512 00:30:01,463 --> 00:30:04,383     So a friend of mine said,      "I work for a guy over there     513 00:30:04,583 --> 00:30:09,933     and he's looking for      somebody else to work there."    514 00:30:10,133 --> 00:30:11,163  It was a little store on  515 00:30:11,363 --> 00:30:12,983  St. Mark's Place   called Matchless  516 00:30:13,183 --> 00:30:18,563  and it was run by a   fellow named Lore Wilson.      517 00:30:18,763 --> 00:30:19,923  And it was nice.  518 00:30:20,123 --> 00:30:21,883      They had tchotchkes,       you know, around the store.     519 00:30:22,083 --> 00:30:26,933  And I was sent down to   the basement to work,  520 00:30:27,133 --> 00:30:33,873    which was like...     very dark, dank, stonewalls...    521 00:30:34,073 --> 00:30:37,123    like it was dug out of rock...    522 00:30:37,323 --> 00:30:40,693  with moss and water   dripping down.  523 00:30:40,893 --> 00:30:43,463  It was a Dickensian hell.      524 00:30:45,173 --> 00:30:49,093      And my job was to cut logos     525 00:30:49,293 --> 00:30:53,623  off of beer cans and   soda cans, like Pepsi,  526 00:30:53,823 --> 00:30:59,383     and then put a fastener on it       and make earrings out of them.    527 00:30:59,583 --> 00:31:04,283    It was kind of pop art jewelry.  528 00:31:04,483 --> 00:31:08,113      But I noticed that along       the walls there were racks      529 00:31:08,313 --> 00:31:12,123  and on the racks were   these big fat lush boas.  530 00:31:12,323 --> 00:31:15,983  There was a huge   sequined phallus.  531 00:31:16,183 --> 00:31:21,593  There was... all kinds of       headdresses and costumes.      532 00:31:21,793 --> 00:31:24,463  And so I said, "Lore, what's the   deal with this...  533 00:31:24,663 --> 00:31:28,433      -cosplay stuff over here?"           -[audience chuckles]  534 00:31:28,633 --> 00:31:31,853  And he said, "Oh, well   I'm the costume designer  535 00:31:32,053 --> 00:31:33,513      for the Ridiculous Theater      536 00:31:33,713 --> 00:31:37,813      and these are costumes       for their next production."     537 00:31:38,013 --> 00:31:40,293  I think it was    Whores of Babylon,  538 00:31:40,493 --> 00:31:44,173     or   Conquest of the Universe,         or something.  539 00:31:44,373 --> 00:31:48,203      So I said, "Oh, can I go       to the rehearsal with you?"     540 00:31:48,403 --> 00:31:49,633  And he said, "Oh yes."  541 00:31:49,833 --> 00:31:53,333  And then I met the most   fabulous people I think  542 00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:57,313  that I could ever have   imagined at that point.  543 00:31:57,513 --> 00:32:01,083  So I said, "Lore, I'm not         gonna be coming back tomorrow."  544 00:32:01,283 --> 00:32:06,113      I was like, "I'm gonna stay          over here at the theater."      545 00:32:06,313 --> 00:32:11,673  And... sometimes I   would do the sound and...      546 00:32:12,383 --> 00:32:13,763  sometimes I   would do the lights,  547 00:32:13,963 --> 00:32:17,953      sometimes I would nod out       while I was doing the sound     548 00:32:18,153 --> 00:32:20,463  and Charles Ludlam   would have to like...  549 00:32:20,663 --> 00:32:22,153  give me my cue   like three times.  550 00:32:22,353 --> 00:32:25,233    "And then the thunder rolled."    551 00:32:25,433 --> 00:32:26,233  [grumbles]  552 00:32:26,433 --> 00:32:27,633  "The thunder rolled!"  553 00:32:27,833 --> 00:32:31,073  And then I would go.   [imitating thunder]  554 00:32:31,273 --> 00:32:37,033      Sometimes I was a spear       carrier and went on stage.      555 00:32:39,783 --> 00:32:41,103  It was just great.  556 00:32:41,303 --> 00:32:45,043      And one time I was sharing           a dressing room table  557 00:32:45,243 --> 00:32:50,843  with Candy Darling and   Black-Eyed Susan was complaining  558 00:32:51,043 --> 00:32:53,803      about her waitressing job.      559 00:32:54,003 --> 00:32:57,913     And Candy said, "I've been a         lot of low things in my life,    560 00:32:58,113 --> 00:33:00,723  but I've never   been no waitress."  561 00:33:01,353 --> 00:33:04,563  [crowd laughing]  562 00:33:05,643 --> 00:33:11,733      I went from hell to heaven,          you know, it was fantastic.     563 00:33:13,363 --> 00:33:14,843       [Temptation To Exist   plays]     564 00:33:15,043 --> 00:33:17,243  OK, baby.  565 00:33:17,863 --> 00:33:19,913  Yeah, yeah.  566 00:33:27,083 --> 00:33:28,843    Temptation to exist   567 00:33:29,043 --> 00:33:30,403    Give me another kiss       568 00:33:30,603 --> 00:33:34,133        Tell me how you love me      569 00:33:34,333 --> 00:33:36,183    A mesmerizing kiss   570 00:33:36,383 --> 00:33:37,603    That I can't resist   571 00:33:37,803 --> 00:33:42,333   Say I'm the way you want me     572 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:48,103    So I can breathe    your perfume   573 00:33:49,813 --> 00:33:55,783    Dancing with you    'round the room   574 00:33:58,403 --> 00:34:02,913        Long after a masquerade      575 00:34:03,113 --> 00:34:04,733  All right, baby.  576 00:34:04,933 --> 00:34:10,633    Stripped of    facade and costume   577 00:34:18,593 --> 00:34:20,293        The drag with being born     578 00:34:20,483 --> 00:34:22,433        It's really not a thorn      579 00:34:22,633 --> 00:34:25,983    Baby, it's a dagger   580 00:34:26,183 --> 00:34:28,003    Most people would deny      581 00:34:28,203 --> 00:34:29,923        Say it's a piece of pie      582 00:34:30,123 --> 00:34:34,113        To you it doesn't matter     583 00:34:34,313 --> 00:34:41,823    I hear about all    the sad affairs   584 00:34:42,533 --> 00:34:47,873    Up on the heights    of despair   585 00:34:51,083 --> 00:34:55,053       Someone's always perishing   586 00:34:55,253 --> 00:34:56,803  Ah...  587 00:34:58,423 --> 00:35:01,893   By the self they've assumed     588 00:35:02,093 --> 00:35:04,123  All right Ray, let's go.  589 00:35:04,323 --> 00:35:07,183  [whistling]  590 00:35:20,033 --> 00:35:21,473  Olé!  591 00:35:21,673 --> 00:35:23,243  Yeah, baby!  592 00:35:24,033 --> 00:35:25,123  Aw yeah.  593 00:35:25,323 --> 00:35:27,913  [band playing]  594 00:35:28,123 --> 00:35:30,043  Heh-hey!  595 00:35:33,293 --> 00:35:34,963    Temptation to exist   596 00:35:35,163 --> 00:35:36,633    Obsession to persist       597 00:35:36,833 --> 00:35:40,183    Death-defying romance       598 00:35:40,383 --> 00:35:42,183    Give me another kiss       599 00:35:42,383 --> 00:35:44,063    Show me what I miss   600 00:35:44,263 --> 00:35:48,563       Baby, since our last dance   601 00:35:48,763 --> 00:35:54,323       So I can get back in tune     602 00:35:54,523 --> 00:35:55,823  All right.  603 00:35:56,023 --> 00:36:01,743    Dancing with you    'round the room   604 00:36:04,743 --> 00:36:09,213       Long after the masquerade     605 00:36:09,413 --> 00:36:10,753  All right, baby.  606 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:16,213       With no facade, no costume   607 00:36:18,173 --> 00:36:21,093  [whistling tune]  608 00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:40,273  [David] Here we go, boys.      609 00:36:42,493 --> 00:36:45,283  [whistling]  610 00:36:54,043 --> 00:36:57,293  [crowd clapping]  611 00:37:00,673 --> 00:37:02,163  Ray Grappone, everybody,  612 00:37:02,353 --> 00:37:05,723  Ray Grappone on   whistling and drums.  613 00:37:05,923 --> 00:37:08,103  Ray, I would whistle   with you anywhere.  614 00:37:08,303 --> 00:37:10,213      Well, thank you, boss man.      615 00:37:10,403 --> 00:37:11,733  You know, Ray and I   have been practicing  616 00:37:11,933 --> 00:37:15,253     in the shower and it's      coming together really well.     617 00:37:15,453 --> 00:37:19,153  -Oh, Thomas!   -[Ray] Did he say that?  618 00:37:19,353 --> 00:37:21,983  -Thomas everybody.   -Thank you.  619 00:37:23,193 --> 00:37:25,143  You are a living legend.  620 00:37:25,343 --> 00:37:29,293  Oh, oh, oh...   God bless you.  621 00:37:29,493 --> 00:37:31,373  If you need anything here       at the Café Carlyle,  622 00:37:31,573 --> 00:37:35,583      ladies and gentlemen,       just slip Thomas a "C" note     623 00:37:35,783 --> 00:37:37,333      and he'll take care of it.      624 00:37:38,623 --> 00:37:42,133  -I love you, thank you.   -[Thomas] Same to you.  625 00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:43,993  [crowd cheering]  626 00:37:44,193 --> 00:37:46,223  What a class joint.  627 00:37:46,423 --> 00:37:48,453  Oh, this is great.  628 00:37:48,653 --> 00:37:52,413    I'm used to playing the 2:00 AM       show in the Boom Boom Room.     629 00:37:52,613 --> 00:37:54,443  You know what I'm saying?      630 00:37:54,643 --> 00:37:57,133  Boys, we're in top form tonight.  631 00:37:57,333 --> 00:37:59,193  Have you noticed?  632 00:38:01,483 --> 00:38:05,413  This is The Boys   in the Band Band.  633 00:38:05,613 --> 00:38:10,703  Well, have you heard of   a fellow named Morrissey?      634 00:38:10,903 --> 00:38:13,143  If you haven't,   I'll clue you in.  635 00:38:13,343 --> 00:38:17,673     He was the teenage president     636 00:38:17,873 --> 00:38:23,043  of the New York Dolls   fan club in England.  637 00:38:24,633 --> 00:38:25,933     He's kind of a Gloomy Gertie.    638 00:38:26,133 --> 00:38:31,203     But he loved him some Dolls,         you know what I'm saying?  639 00:38:31,403 --> 00:38:32,933  And still does.  640 00:38:35,513 --> 00:38:39,963    So... he called me and he said,  641 00:38:40,163 --> 00:38:45,573     "I understand you're a      pretty big Maria Callas fan."    642 00:38:45,773 --> 00:38:48,263  And I said, "Yes, I happen to be  643 00:38:48,463 --> 00:38:50,573  known for   that in certain circles."      644 00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:56,463     And he said, "Well, you know         that film she made  645 00:38:56,663 --> 00:38:59,193  where she did   a fantastic concert  646 00:38:59,393 --> 00:39:01,463     at the Royal Festival Hall?"     647 00:39:01,663 --> 00:39:04,423  I said, "Yes, by heart."  648 00:39:05,003 --> 00:39:06,473  He said, "How would   you like to play the  649 00:39:06,673 --> 00:39:08,323  Royal Festival Hall?"  650 00:39:08,523 --> 00:39:09,473  I said, "Yes, I would."  651 00:39:09,673 --> 00:39:10,723  He said, "Well,   all you have to do  652 00:39:10,923 --> 00:39:12,203  is get the Dolls back together."  653 00:39:12,403 --> 00:39:13,643  [audience laughs]  654 00:39:13,843 --> 00:39:18,393     And I thought, Royal Festival        Hall, Maria Callas.  655 00:39:21,983 --> 00:39:26,903  I combed every opium   den in Chinatown  656 00:39:28,403 --> 00:39:30,993  and I pulled that band together.  657 00:39:31,903 --> 00:39:33,663  We were fantastic.  658 00:39:33,863 --> 00:39:35,993  It was a big success.  659 00:39:36,663 --> 00:39:39,953  They added a second show.      660 00:39:40,703 --> 00:39:43,423  Then... it was the   beginning of the summer  661 00:39:43,623 --> 00:39:45,403  and all these festivals   in Europe were  662 00:39:45,603 --> 00:39:49,473  starting where they   play in the fields.  663 00:39:49,673 --> 00:39:52,133  I didn't know   about these things.  664 00:39:55,433 --> 00:39:56,913    They called, "Would you play?"    665 00:39:57,113 --> 00:39:59,253      And I said,       "Well, of course we would."     666 00:39:59,453 --> 00:40:01,293  We were up and running.  667 00:40:01,493 --> 00:40:03,233      We went all over the place.     668 00:40:03,433 --> 00:40:05,133  Then we went all over the world.  669 00:40:05,333 --> 00:40:08,243  Then we went all over   the world three times.  670 00:40:08,443 --> 00:40:09,953    And I was like, "OK, you know,    671 00:40:10,153 --> 00:40:11,323  I've really seen   enough of this world.  672 00:40:11,523 --> 00:40:13,373    I want to go home, thank you."    673 00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:15,143  I came home, my liver   was like...  674 00:40:15,343 --> 00:40:18,963  [imitates thumping]  675 00:40:19,163 --> 00:40:22,463  So, I'm just saying   this because like  676 00:40:22,663 --> 00:40:25,803  if you haven't seen   me around, that's why.  677 00:40:26,003 --> 00:40:28,803    [Ray] One, two, three, four...    678 00:40:29,003 --> 00:40:30,553     [band plays   Better Than You]     679 00:40:30,753 --> 00:40:33,013  Oh! That was some segue.  680 00:40:35,473 --> 00:40:37,393    My baby   681 00:40:37,593 --> 00:40:41,183    I don't talk    nasty about her   682 00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:46,003   You ain't even got no class     683 00:40:46,203 --> 00:40:49,943        I'm gonna kick your ass      684 00:40:50,153 --> 00:40:51,743    All 'cause my baby   685 00:40:51,943 --> 00:40:54,393  Oh, wait a minute,   I fucked it up.  686 00:40:54,593 --> 00:40:57,533  I fucked it up.   I fucked it up.  687 00:40:58,663 --> 00:41:01,203  It's all my fault.  688 00:41:03,543 --> 00:41:04,793    I was thinking of another song,  689 00:41:04,993 --> 00:41:07,173  I was thinking of a   Jimmy Rogers song.  690 00:41:07,963 --> 00:41:11,383  [crowd applauding]  691 00:41:12,633 --> 00:41:16,383     [New York Dolls play   Jet Boy]    692 00:41:36,203 --> 00:41:38,103       Who's so fly up in the sky   693 00:41:38,303 --> 00:41:41,083    Faster than any boy    could ever describe   694 00:41:41,283 --> 00:41:43,643   Who's got that love so deep     695 00:41:43,843 --> 00:41:46,753    With everything alive,        I said   696 00:41:46,953 --> 00:41:49,383   Jet boys fly, jet boys gone     697 00:41:49,583 --> 00:41:51,903    Jet boys stole my baby      698 00:41:52,103 --> 00:41:55,013    Flying around    New York City so high       699 00:41:55,213 --> 00:42:00,553    Like he was my baby   700 00:42:01,683 --> 00:42:04,393  [guitar solo]  701 00:42:05,933 --> 00:42:08,903    This is the kind of    place where no one cares      702 00:42:09,103 --> 00:42:11,153    What you're living for      703 00:42:11,353 --> 00:42:14,113    And Jet Boy's    so preoccupied   704 00:42:14,313 --> 00:42:16,493       He don't care about before   705 00:42:16,693 --> 00:42:17,623    And that's why   706 00:42:17,823 --> 00:42:19,743   Jet boys fly, jet boys gone     707 00:42:19,943 --> 00:42:22,773    Jet boy stole my baby       708 00:42:22,973 --> 00:42:25,583    Flying around New    York City so high   709 00:42:25,783 --> 00:42:31,463    Like he was my baby   710 00:42:31,753 --> 00:42:37,803    My baby   711 00:42:48,683 --> 00:42:50,273  -Yes.   -Very nice.  712 00:42:50,473 --> 00:42:51,153  Fantastic.  713 00:42:51,353 --> 00:42:53,013  I've never seen   anything like it.  714 00:42:53,213 --> 00:42:54,823  Yes, you've never seen.  715 00:42:55,863 --> 00:42:58,623     Happy memories looking back?         What is that?  716 00:42:58,823 --> 00:43:00,493    What feelings are you feeling?    717 00:43:00,693 --> 00:43:02,793  I feel invincible.  718 00:43:02,993 --> 00:43:04,063  [Host 1]   Yes.  719 00:43:04,263 --> 00:43:05,603  [Host 2]   Didn't you    once get arrested  720 00:43:05,803 --> 00:43:06,893   for impersonating a woman?     721 00:43:07,093 --> 00:43:10,923  Well, it was in Memphis,   as I recall, right?  722 00:43:11,123 --> 00:43:12,823  But you weren't   impersonating a woman.  723 00:43:13,023 --> 00:43:14,153    I wasn't, I was kind of dressed  724 00:43:14,353 --> 00:43:15,533    like Liza Minnelli at the time.  725 00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:17,073  He invited everybody   on the stage  726 00:43:17,273 --> 00:43:19,453      and he got arrested for       that in Memphis, Tennessee.     727 00:43:19,653 --> 00:43:21,393      But they, they pegged it on         dressing like Liza Minnelli?     728 00:43:21,593 --> 00:43:25,203  Yeah, I had to go to jail           dressed like Liza Minnelli      729 00:43:25,403 --> 00:43:28,543   and Memphis jail    is not Mayberry.  730 00:43:28,743 --> 00:43:30,213   It's a real jail.  731 00:43:30,413 --> 00:43:33,133    [David]   No if you went to like         the thrift store or something,  732 00:43:33,333 --> 00:43:35,573   you would most likely have       to buy women's clothes  733 00:43:35,773 --> 00:43:37,883   to look like a    rockstar, you know?  734 00:43:38,083 --> 00:43:39,783 [interviewer]   It's    interesting that you guys,     735 00:43:39,983 --> 00:43:41,913       that you thought that you        had to wear women's clothes.    736 00:43:42,113 --> 00:43:43,333    [David]   Well, we didn't have to  737 00:43:43,533 --> 00:43:45,563   but there was nothing    else available.  738 00:43:45,763 --> 00:43:48,873  You know, if   Granny Takes a Trip,  739 00:43:49,073 --> 00:43:50,753  had opened an outlet,  740 00:43:50,953 --> 00:43:55,133  then we could have wore   men's woman's clothes.  741 00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:58,453  But we used to kind of   improvise, you know.  742 00:43:58,653 --> 00:44:01,513  [electric guitar music]  743 00:44:03,093 --> 00:44:04,723  Come on, boys!  744 00:44:04,923 --> 00:44:06,333 [interviewer]   Were    there places where,  745 00:44:06,533 --> 00:44:07,853   or times where it felt a       little more risky or dangerous?    746 00:44:08,053 --> 00:44:09,143 [David]   Well...  747 00:44:09,343 --> 00:44:11,063 [interviewer]   Or you    might get beat up?  748 00:44:11,263 --> 00:44:12,903    [David]   Yeah, I mean, the first    time we played outta town      749 00:44:13,103 --> 00:44:17,073   we played at some like    club in Long Island.  750 00:44:17,273 --> 00:44:19,303  It was called like   The Shark or something,  751 00:44:19,503 --> 00:44:21,073  I don't remember   what it was called.  752 00:44:21,273 --> 00:44:25,373    It was just like a big room,         like a warehouse kind of room.    753 00:44:25,573 --> 00:44:27,253   And when we pulled up,    there was all these  754 00:44:27,453 --> 00:44:30,543   like muscle cars and    stuff, pack of cigarettes     755 00:44:30,743 --> 00:44:35,753       stuck in the shirt that was       rolled up kind of a thing.     756 00:44:35,953 --> 00:44:40,843  And I was like, "Oh man,   people still doing this?"      757 00:44:41,043 --> 00:44:42,113  [laughing]  758 00:44:42,313 --> 00:44:46,063   And we started to play    and all the guys moved  759 00:44:46,263 --> 00:44:49,793      towards the back and the       girls moved towards the front.  760 00:44:49,993 --> 00:44:51,893      Somethin' happened.       I don't even remember what,     761 00:44:52,103 --> 00:44:56,273     but the guys started beating         the hell out of each other  762 00:44:56,473 --> 00:44:59,783  and then they opened up   the doors on either side  763 00:44:59,983 --> 00:45:02,013      -and pushed everybody out.           -[interviewer] Why?  764 00:45:02,213 --> 00:45:05,553   Because of the sound?    The look?  765 00:45:05,753 --> 00:45:06,913   What was so bad?  766 00:45:07,113 --> 00:45:11,193 [David]   It kind of caused a      lot of sexual tension, I think,    767 00:45:11,383 --> 00:45:15,583   between guys and girls.  768 00:45:18,003 --> 00:45:20,463  It was a mess.  769 00:45:26,383 --> 00:45:28,853       The thing about the Dolls,            the original Dolls, was that    770 00:45:29,053 --> 00:45:32,943   we all had very kind    of similar ideas about  771 00:45:33,143 --> 00:45:36,153   what it takes to be    a great rockstar.  772 00:45:36,353 --> 00:45:40,493  People who are really   campy, but you know,  773 00:45:40,693 --> 00:45:46,183  it's an old expression,   but it's like the lie  774 00:45:46,383 --> 00:45:49,293    that tells the truth, you know?  775 00:45:49,493 --> 00:45:55,023  And it just kind of   gets to the point.  776 00:45:55,223 --> 00:45:57,293 [playing   Jet Boy]  777 00:45:59,713 --> 00:46:01,923    Baby, up all night   778 00:46:02,123 --> 00:46:04,953    Baby, New York City   779 00:46:05,153 --> 00:46:07,743    Baby, so so high   780 00:46:07,943 --> 00:46:10,603    Baby, so so high   781 00:46:10,803 --> 00:46:11,773    Don't you know that   782 00:46:11,973 --> 00:46:14,103    Like he was my baby   783 00:46:14,303 --> 00:46:16,943    Like he was my baby   784 00:46:17,143 --> 00:46:19,483    Like he was my baby   785 00:46:19,683 --> 00:46:24,433     I remember during this period        when we were having this  786 00:46:24,623 --> 00:46:29,893  reunion thing, the Dolls,       we got a call from  787 00:46:30,093 --> 00:46:32,733  one of our myriad   record companies.  788 00:46:32,923 --> 00:46:33,983  [audience laughing]  789 00:46:34,183 --> 00:46:35,923      Every time we do a record,           we get dumped.  790 00:46:36,123 --> 00:46:41,883  So, they said, "Would you       like to go to the island  791 00:46:42,083 --> 00:46:47,013  of Kauai, Hawaii   and make a record  792 00:46:47,213 --> 00:46:48,873    at the home of Todd Rundgren?"    793 00:46:49,073 --> 00:46:52,933  I said, "Yes... now?   Like now? January now."  794 00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:55,003  "Yes."  795 00:46:55,203 --> 00:46:57,563      Showed up a few days early.     796 00:46:58,523 --> 00:47:01,213  Todd was kind of pissed,   but fuck him.  797 00:47:01,413 --> 00:47:04,903  [audience laughing]  798 00:47:06,073 --> 00:47:07,953  You know what I'm saying?      799 00:47:08,153 --> 00:47:09,863  Who does he think he is?  800 00:47:11,413 --> 00:47:12,853  So he said,   "OK, what do you...  801 00:47:13,053 --> 00:47:14,143  play me what you got.   What do you got?"  802 00:47:14,343 --> 00:47:16,913     I said,      "We don't have nothing, man.     803 00:47:19,163 --> 00:47:21,233    We'll get right to it though."    804 00:47:21,433 --> 00:47:23,573  So, it was great.  805 00:47:23,773 --> 00:47:25,193  It was verdant.  806 00:47:25,393 --> 00:47:27,013  It was lush.  807 00:47:27,213 --> 00:47:30,243      I don't know if you saw it           in Architectural Digest,  808 00:47:30,443 --> 00:47:33,893  but Todd's house,  809 00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:39,583  it looks like a Cambodian       drug lord's pagoda.  810 00:47:39,783 --> 00:47:40,753  [audience laughing]  811 00:47:40,953 --> 00:47:42,423  It's beautiful.  812 00:47:42,623 --> 00:47:45,303  I was like,     "Man, a gentleman of my stature  813 00:47:45,503 --> 00:47:47,633  belongs right here."  814 00:47:47,833 --> 00:47:48,863  You know what I'm saying?      815 00:47:49,063 --> 00:47:51,803  We went back to the   Bay of Honah Lee.  816 00:47:52,003 --> 00:47:54,723  You know who lives there,       don't you?  817 00:47:54,923 --> 00:47:57,743  -Puff.   -[audience laughs]  818 00:47:58,293 --> 00:47:59,943  Oh, yeah.  819 00:48:00,143 --> 00:48:03,023  We hung with Puff a   little bit there, baby.  820 00:48:03,223 --> 00:48:04,793  It was cool.  821 00:48:06,383 --> 00:48:08,013     Normally it rained every day.    822 00:48:08,213 --> 00:48:10,203  But intermittently,   at intervals.  823 00:48:10,403 --> 00:48:14,293      Usually, it stopped raining          when it was time for us  824 00:48:14,483 --> 00:48:16,563  to go in the studio   and make some noise  825 00:48:16,763 --> 00:48:21,083    with the pots and pans, but     it was it was still beautiful.    826 00:48:21,283 --> 00:48:22,333  [band plays   Making Rain]  827 00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:24,983  Anyway, we wrote   this song there.  828 00:48:25,603 --> 00:48:29,523      It's a good one.       It's gonna be really good.      829 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:34,663  [gentle acoustic music]  830 00:48:37,573 --> 00:48:43,213    Hate how the myth    of separation   831 00:48:43,413 --> 00:48:47,173       Really cast a spell on me     832 00:48:47,373 --> 00:48:50,033       Never missing one occasion   833 00:48:50,233 --> 00:48:55,393    Of the infinite    varieties of agony   834 00:48:55,593 --> 00:49:00,043    We pass on down our    borrowed anguish   835 00:49:00,243 --> 00:49:04,233    Our blasted joys,    our jubilant despair   836 00:49:04,433 --> 00:49:08,633    Leave us crying out    here to languish   837 00:49:08,833 --> 00:49:13,073    Poor outcast,    it's too much to bear       838 00:49:13,273 --> 00:49:16,953    Making rain   839 00:49:17,153 --> 00:49:19,523    Yeah, making rain   840 00:49:19,723 --> 00:49:22,063        It's always raining here     841 00:49:22,263 --> 00:49:26,383    Sometimes I need a    little shove, yeah   842 00:49:26,583 --> 00:49:31,013       Remind me of my providence   843 00:49:31,213 --> 00:49:35,093    Learn to bear the    beams of love, yeah   844 00:49:35,293 --> 00:49:39,333    Mending my conflict    with circumstance   845 00:49:39,533 --> 00:49:41,933    Just making rain   846 00:49:42,143 --> 00:49:43,813  Yeah!  847 00:49:44,013 --> 00:49:46,043    Yeah, making rain   848 00:49:46,243 --> 00:49:48,323        It's always raining here     849 00:49:48,523 --> 00:49:51,063    The heart's in pain   850 00:49:52,903 --> 00:49:54,413    Crying in the rain   851 00:49:54,613 --> 00:49:57,583       Here comes that rain again   852 00:49:57,783 --> 00:50:02,913    Exacerbations,    excruciations   853 00:50:03,113 --> 00:50:06,253       That's the tears of things   854 00:50:09,333 --> 00:50:10,733  [piano solo]  855 00:50:10,933 --> 00:50:12,253  Yeah, baby.  856 00:50:29,393 --> 00:50:34,073    Exacerbations,    excruciations   857 00:50:34,273 --> 00:50:38,873    Well, that's the    tears of things   858 00:50:39,073 --> 00:50:40,953  Very nice.  859 00:50:44,453 --> 00:50:48,423   Waiting in a subway station     860 00:50:48,623 --> 00:50:52,423    In some godforsaken    neighborhood   861 00:50:52,623 --> 00:50:56,383    It's as if my    blood was dreaming   862 00:50:56,583 --> 00:51:00,393    And resolved    itself into melody   863 00:51:00,593 --> 00:51:04,393    Yeah, making rain   864 00:51:04,593 --> 00:51:06,463    Here comes the rain   865 00:51:06,663 --> 00:51:09,113        It's always raining here     866 00:51:09,313 --> 00:51:12,273    Our hearts in pain   867 00:51:12,483 --> 00:51:17,153    Yeah, findin' the rain      868 00:51:17,363 --> 00:51:21,083    Oh, the rain   869 00:51:21,283 --> 00:51:23,143    Yeah, the rain   870 00:51:23,343 --> 00:51:25,833        It's always raining here     871 00:51:26,033 --> 00:51:29,213    Oh, the rain   872 00:51:29,413 --> 00:51:30,613  Yay...  873 00:51:30,813 --> 00:51:35,673    Yeah, it's always    raining here   874 00:51:39,093 --> 00:51:40,093  [chuckles]  875 00:51:40,293 --> 00:51:42,373  -[audience applauding]   -Yeah, baby.  876 00:51:42,573 --> 00:51:44,273  Yup.  877 00:51:44,473 --> 00:51:47,063  Keith Cotton,   everybody, on the piano.  878 00:51:47,263 --> 00:51:51,023  [audience applauding]  879 00:51:52,603 --> 00:51:56,493      You know, when I was 18,       I started hanging around at     880 00:51:56,693 --> 00:51:59,343    this place, Max's Kansas City.    881 00:51:59,543 --> 00:52:02,323    It was kind of like this place.  882 00:52:02,533 --> 00:52:04,183  Great people.  883 00:52:04,383 --> 00:52:05,933  My kind of people,   you know what I'm saying?      884 00:52:06,133 --> 00:52:09,103  Like, it was probably the           greatest boîte of all time      885 00:52:09,303 --> 00:52:12,083  after Café Carlyle.  886 00:52:12,293 --> 00:52:15,833  But still up there   in the top two.  887 00:52:16,923 --> 00:52:20,433  It was a lot like this actually.   It was a lot like this.  888 00:52:20,633 --> 00:52:23,993      Some of the greatest queens          you'd ever wanna meet.  889 00:52:24,193 --> 00:52:26,053  Oh, my god.  890 00:52:27,393 --> 00:52:29,103  I remember one night...  891 00:52:30,773 --> 00:52:32,613  I believe it was...   [clears throat]  892 00:52:32,813 --> 00:52:36,303  Penny, you'll correct   me if I'm wrong.  893 00:52:36,503 --> 00:52:40,573      Because Penny Arcade was       there as well this evening.     894 00:52:40,773 --> 00:52:45,283  -[audience applauding]    -It was Ingrid Superstar?     895 00:52:45,483 --> 00:52:51,273  It was you, Bill Vehr and       Ingrid Superstar and me.  896 00:52:51,473 --> 00:52:54,713  OK, Penny and I,   my friend Bill Vehr  897 00:52:54,913 --> 00:53:02,383     from the Ridiculous Theater.         The author of   Turds in Hell.     898 00:53:04,423 --> 00:53:07,353  He was my best   friend at the time.  899 00:53:07,553 --> 00:53:09,313  We were biffing.  900 00:53:09,513 --> 00:53:10,973  And Ingrid Superstar.  901 00:53:12,523 --> 00:53:15,653  And Ingrid said,  902 00:53:15,853 --> 00:53:17,383  "You're on a trip.   You're on a trip.  903 00:53:17,583 --> 00:53:22,363      You're on... everybody here         is on a trip except for me."     904 00:53:22,563 --> 00:53:27,953      And Bill very calmly said,           "But, Ingrid Superstar,  905 00:53:28,743 --> 00:53:30,853  you took eight Tuinals."  906 00:53:31,053 --> 00:53:34,963  She said, "Yeah, but   I'm not on a trip."  907 00:53:36,833 --> 00:53:39,513  Anyway, I found that   amusing, you know.  908 00:53:39,713 --> 00:53:44,303      So much so, that I recall       that after all these years.     909 00:53:44,503 --> 00:53:45,573  [scoffs]  910 00:53:45,773 --> 00:53:51,273      Something about certain       turns of phrase in language     911 00:53:51,473 --> 00:53:53,793  that are peculiar to each of us.  912 00:53:53,993 --> 00:53:56,983 [Duchess]   Written    for you, Tina Louise.  913 00:53:58,903 --> 00:54:04,263    -What's my real name, Duchess?       -[Duchess]   I don't know.  914 00:54:04,463 --> 00:54:06,393      You really like to       destroy people, don't you?      915 00:54:06,593 --> 00:54:10,933 [David]   Everybody you    would meet would be alive,     916 00:54:11,133 --> 00:54:14,943   freewheelin' and so    much stuff going on.  917 00:54:15,143 --> 00:54:19,693 [Bill]   So that after you've       come six times, six times,     918 00:54:19,893 --> 00:54:24,343    you're gonna find out     that you're Superman, you see.    919 00:54:24,543 --> 00:54:26,393  There's something   wrong with this.  920 00:54:26,593 --> 00:54:28,953 [David]   Charles Ludlum came       to the show one night  921 00:54:29,153 --> 00:54:31,543       and he just said, "I'm        having a personality crisis."  922 00:54:31,743 --> 00:54:34,693  And I thought,   "That's really good."  923 00:54:34,893 --> 00:54:35,963  And I kind of   remembered it, you know.  924 00:54:36,163 --> 00:54:38,093  [Leah] Here, let me   pull through the bottom.  925 00:54:38,283 --> 00:54:40,943   [David]   I remember when I moved     into my first apartment,  926 00:54:41,143 --> 00:54:46,073  which was a seventh-floor walkup   on the Hells Angels block.  927 00:54:46,273 --> 00:54:52,453   I turned on the radiator        and it just like started        hissing steam  928 00:54:52,653 --> 00:54:55,643  I really didn't   know what to do about it.      929 00:54:55,843 --> 00:54:59,823     And so, I knocked on, I guess        it was my neighbor's door,  930 00:55:00,013 --> 00:55:03,493  or two doors down   and this guy came in.  931 00:55:03,683 --> 00:55:07,453  He was like a college professor,   but kind of like, you know,  932 00:55:07,653 --> 00:55:10,243  a hip college   professor kind of guy.  933 00:55:10,443 --> 00:55:15,043  He was very nice   and very political.  934 00:55:15,243 --> 00:55:19,713   He told me that I should        check out his group,  935 00:55:19,913 --> 00:55:24,173  which happened to be the Up   Against the Wall Motherfuckers.    936 00:55:24,373 --> 00:55:25,443   I said, "OK."  937 00:55:25,643 --> 00:55:27,153   And he kind of like would       encourage me  938 00:55:27,353 --> 00:55:28,663   because apparently,  939 00:55:28,863 --> 00:55:34,073    I had the stuff to rally the         street if something went down,    940 00:55:34,823 --> 00:55:37,623  so I used to stay on the corner,  941 00:55:37,823 --> 00:55:39,383  like go climb up a   lamppost and say,  942 00:55:39,583 --> 00:55:41,653  "We're not gonna let these cops,  943 00:55:41,853 --> 00:55:43,303  blah blah blah blah   blah blah blah."  944 00:55:43,503 --> 00:55:45,513  And everybody'd   be like, "No, no."  945 00:55:45,713 --> 00:55:48,883  And then there'd be   like some kind of a...  946 00:55:51,473 --> 00:55:53,933  skirmish or whatever.  947 00:55:54,133 --> 00:55:58,103  And my mother said to   me about them, she said,  948 00:55:58,303 --> 00:56:01,273  "You know what you are?   You're a commie dupe."  949 00:56:03,523 --> 00:56:06,383      [laughing] I had to       think like, "Yeah, maybe."      950 00:56:06,583 --> 00:56:07,743  Maybe I was.  951 00:56:07,943 --> 00:56:11,433       There were so many characters        on St. Mark's Place in,  952 00:56:11,633 --> 00:56:13,833   you know, '69,'70.  953 00:56:14,033 --> 00:56:18,413       I used to really like Abbie      Hoffman a lot when I was a kid.    954 00:56:18,613 --> 00:56:20,043 [interviewer]   Did    you meet him first?  955 00:56:20,243 --> 00:56:23,483  Yeah, I used to see   him all the time.  956 00:56:23,683 --> 00:56:25,073  He was very personable.  957 00:56:25,273 --> 00:56:27,783   We planted a tree in the    middle of St. Mark's Place.    958 00:56:27,983 --> 00:56:29,093      He was the instigator of that.  959 00:56:29,293 --> 00:56:32,343  The ruse of it was   that we need more trees  960 00:56:32,553 --> 00:56:33,953   on St. Mark's Place.  961 00:56:34,153 --> 00:56:35,663   He said, "Where're    we gonna get a tree?"  962 00:56:35,863 --> 00:56:39,523   I said, "They got trees    all over Staten Island."      963 00:56:39,723 --> 00:56:40,853  He got a van, came   to Staten Island,  964 00:56:41,053 --> 00:56:42,943  dug up a tree like   in the Greenbelt  965 00:56:43,143 --> 00:56:45,023  or something where   there's a million trees.  966 00:56:45,223 --> 00:56:47,113 [interviewer]   And did you        put it in like a bucket  967 00:56:47,313 --> 00:56:48,343   or did you--  968 00:56:48,543 --> 00:56:50,493    [David]   No, I think they just          put a mound of dirt around it,  969 00:56:50,693 --> 00:56:52,263   as I recall.  970 00:56:52,463 --> 00:56:53,573      They didn't expect it to stay.  971 00:56:53,773 --> 00:56:55,643   It was in the middle    of the street.  972 00:56:55,843 --> 00:56:59,563  Like they just wanted   to like do something.  973 00:56:59,763 --> 00:57:01,063   We went to Lincoln Center.     974 00:57:01,263 --> 00:57:03,773   It might have been the    opening of Lincoln Center.     975 00:57:03,973 --> 00:57:07,003   You know, those like    industrial boxes of Tide      976 00:57:07,203 --> 00:57:10,453   like they have at a    laundromat so you can buy     977 00:57:10,653 --> 00:57:11,743   like a cupful or whatever?     978 00:57:11,943 --> 00:57:15,263  They dumped one of   those in the fountain.  979 00:57:15,463 --> 00:57:18,753      And it just like started,       it was like a comedy movie.     980 00:57:18,953 --> 00:57:22,773     It just like started foaming         up and all these people  981 00:57:22,973 --> 00:57:25,353      who were like, you know...      982 00:57:26,483 --> 00:57:28,153  uh...  983 00:57:28,353 --> 00:57:31,953  society contributors   to Lincoln Center, right?      984 00:57:32,153 --> 00:57:33,643  They were all done   up to the nines  985 00:57:33,833 --> 00:57:36,953  and they were all like   slipping in the foam.  986 00:57:37,153 --> 00:57:39,953  And it was great.   It was so beautiful.  987 00:57:40,153 --> 00:57:43,623   There was a lot of    liberation movements  988 00:57:43,823 --> 00:57:45,523   in the East Village    in those days.  989 00:57:45,723 --> 00:57:47,753   They were all kind    of interesting, so...  990 00:57:47,953 --> 00:57:50,803      But the Yippies were the       most ridiculous, you know,      991 00:57:51,003 --> 00:57:53,863  so that appealed to me  992 00:57:54,063 --> 00:57:57,303  and Charles Ludlam   was ridiculous  993 00:57:57,503 --> 00:57:59,603  and that appealed to me.  994 00:57:59,803 --> 00:58:04,753      Ridiculousness is something          that I've always kind of,  995 00:58:04,953 --> 00:58:07,693      especially, if it's really           intelligent ridiculousness      996 00:58:07,893 --> 00:58:13,593     it's kind of appealing to me.    997 00:58:13,793 --> 00:58:17,243  [indistinct chatter]  998 00:58:40,133 --> 00:58:43,103  We've really expanded   all definitions  999 00:58:43,303 --> 00:58:46,543  and all mediums to where   that you have to forget  1000 00:58:46,743 --> 00:58:50,133      those definitions that you           learned in school.  1001 00:58:50,333 --> 00:58:52,133  [chuckles] But you got   to forget that, folks.  1002 00:58:52,333 --> 00:58:54,723   So, you got to forget    the definition of art,  1003 00:58:54,923 --> 00:58:58,053       the definition of music, the          definition of video art now.    1004 00:58:58,253 --> 00:59:03,163   All these things are being       expanded every single day.     1005 00:59:03,363 --> 00:59:07,653   Music does not aim    at sound itself,  1006 00:59:07,853 --> 00:59:11,023    but is in a complex conception.  1007 00:59:11,223 --> 00:59:13,283      First, forget about sounds.     1008 00:59:13,483 --> 00:59:15,303  Sounds must be free.  1009 00:59:18,093 --> 00:59:20,853  [audience applauding]  1010 00:59:21,053 --> 00:59:23,643 [David]   The goal of today's          Mansion of Fun show  1011 00:59:23,843 --> 00:59:28,253  is to live with   godlike composure  1012 00:59:28,453 --> 00:59:34,613  on the full rush of energy,   like Dionysus riding the leopard  1013 00:59:34,813 --> 00:59:37,693     without being torn to pieces.    1014 00:59:47,793 --> 00:59:52,833 [sings   O mio babbino caro]      1015 00:59:53,543 --> 00:59:59,713    1016 01:00:01,053 --> 01:00:07,473    1017 01:00:09,353 --> 01:00:15,563    1018 01:00:16,903 --> 01:00:23,153    1019 01:00:23,913 --> 01:00:29,543    1020 01:00:30,913 --> 01:00:36,173    1021 01:00:36,753 --> 01:00:42,223    1022 01:00:43,383 --> 01:00:48,393    1023 01:00:49,603 --> 01:00:55,233    1024 01:01:02,573 --> 01:01:09,243    1025 01:01:12,663 --> 01:01:18,753    1026 01:01:21,673 --> 01:01:28,303    1027 01:01:31,723 --> 01:01:34,653     [audience applauding wildly]     1028 01:01:34,853 --> 01:01:37,573  [Jimmy Castor whistles]    Hey, Leroy!  1029 01:01:37,773 --> 01:01:39,843 -[Leroy]   What?  -[man]   Your mama.  1030 01:01:40,043 --> 01:01:41,303   She's calling you, man.  1031 01:01:41,503 --> 01:01:43,113  -[all laughing]   -[upbeat music]  1032 01:01:43,313 --> 01:01:46,403   [Hey, Leroy,    Your Mama's callin' You       by Jimmy Castor plays]  1033 01:01:54,163 --> 01:01:58,623     You know, when I was a kid,          I lived on East Sixth Street.    1034 01:02:01,173 --> 01:02:02,723  Before that, I lived   on Third Street  1035 01:02:02,923 --> 01:02:04,243      on the Hells Angels block.      1036 01:02:04,443 --> 01:02:07,703  -Not my cup of tea.   -[audience laughing]  1037 01:02:07,903 --> 01:02:08,913  I mean, it was all right.      1038 01:02:09,113 --> 01:02:13,163  But... one day there was   a knock at the door,  1039 01:02:13,363 --> 01:02:16,133  which was in the kitchen,      1040 01:02:16,333 --> 01:02:20,033  which is also where the   bathtub was located.  1041 01:02:20,233 --> 01:02:26,303      I opened the door and       there stood this big viking     1042 01:02:26,503 --> 01:02:33,913  who was wearing a tutu   and paratrooper boots  1043 01:02:34,243 --> 01:02:37,963  and some like ripped   yellow tights.  1044 01:02:38,163 --> 01:02:40,553  Next to him was this   little Colombian guy.  1045 01:02:40,753 --> 01:02:44,633     He was kind of like cleaning         his nails with a stiletto.  1046 01:02:44,833 --> 01:02:48,763     But still I thought, "I gotta        watch out for this big guy."     1047 01:02:48,963 --> 01:02:51,953  Turned out though it   was the little guy  1048 01:02:52,153 --> 01:02:53,333  I had to watch out for.  1049 01:02:53,533 --> 01:02:57,963      Anyway, it was Arthur Kane           and Billy Murcia.  1050 01:02:58,163 --> 01:03:01,573  -[audience applauding]   -And... Thank you.  1051 01:03:01,773 --> 01:03:06,403     Arthur said to me, "I      understand you're a singer."     1052 01:03:07,863 --> 01:03:09,123  I didn't really   expect that voice,  1053 01:03:09,323 --> 01:03:15,663  you know, to come   out of this Cossack.  1054 01:03:16,833 --> 01:03:20,193    I said, "Yeah, I like to sing."  1055 01:03:20,393 --> 01:03:23,093  He said, "Well, we're   trying to start a band  1056 01:03:23,293 --> 01:03:25,283  and we need a singer."  1057 01:03:25,483 --> 01:03:27,133  And I said, "OK, I'm in."      1058 01:03:27,333 --> 01:03:30,223     I mean, you know, I made      snap decisions in those days.    1059 01:03:30,423 --> 01:03:33,063      You know, like later on in           life you start thinking,  1060 01:03:33,263 --> 01:03:35,893  "Well, what's this gonna   be like in six months?"  1061 01:03:36,643 --> 01:03:37,773  You know?  1062 01:03:37,973 --> 01:03:39,333  This is like,   at that point like,  1063 01:03:39,533 --> 01:03:43,173    "What's this going to be like"       let me do the arithmetics.  1064 01:03:43,373 --> 01:03:45,173  Fifty years later,   you're still like,  1065 01:03:45,373 --> 01:03:47,733      "Oh my God, what was that?"     1066 01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:52,513    So we went over to 10th Street    1067 01:03:52,713 --> 01:03:57,163  where Johnny Thunders had       a very nice apartment.  1068 01:03:57,363 --> 01:04:02,113  The bathtub was in the bathroom,   you know what I'm saying?      1069 01:04:02,313 --> 01:04:04,503  Couple other rooms.  1070 01:04:04,713 --> 01:04:06,953  I think his mother   was paying his rent.  1071 01:04:07,143 --> 01:04:10,373  I mean, I'm not sure, OK?      1072 01:04:10,563 --> 01:04:13,473    -[band plays   Lonely Planet Boy]       -So don't quote me on that.     1073 01:04:14,343 --> 01:04:16,003      [Kurt Loder]   New York Dolls       guitarist Johnny Thunders      1074 01:04:16,203 --> 01:04:17,773   was found dead on the    floor of a guest house  1075 01:04:17,973 --> 01:04:20,063       in the French Quarter of New         Orleans on Tuesday afternoon.    1076 01:04:20,263 --> 01:04:21,583  The cause of death hasn't       yet been determined.  1077 01:04:21,783 --> 01:04:24,193  But Thunders, whose given       name was John Genzale,  1078 01:04:24,393 --> 01:04:25,533      had a longtime drug habit.      1079 01:04:25,733 --> 01:04:29,363  [David sings]     Our will is hard   1080 01:04:29,563 --> 01:04:32,993    Man, it's so hard   1081 01:04:33,193 --> 01:04:36,293    And it's a lonely    planet joy   1082 01:04:36,493 --> 01:04:40,273    When you bring a song        from your other boy   1083 01:04:40,473 --> 01:04:44,673    That's when I'm a    lonely planet boy   1084 01:04:44,873 --> 01:04:47,843    And I'm tryin'   1085 01:04:48,043 --> 01:04:51,723    For your love   1086 01:04:51,923 --> 01:04:57,183    Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah      1087 01:04:57,383 --> 01:04:59,293    You pick me up   1088 01:04:59,493 --> 01:05:03,813    You're out drivin'    in your car   1089 01:05:04,013 --> 01:05:07,133       I tell you where I'm going   1090 01:05:07,333 --> 01:05:08,943        You're always telling me     1091 01:05:09,143 --> 01:05:11,243    It's too far   1092 01:05:11,443 --> 01:05:15,763    But how could    you be drivin'   1093 01:05:15,963 --> 01:05:18,253    Down by my home   1094 01:05:18,453 --> 01:05:20,103    When you know   1095 01:05:20,303 --> 01:05:22,923    I ain't got one   1096 01:05:23,123 --> 01:05:24,403    And   1097 01:05:24,603 --> 01:05:29,133    I'm so all alone   1098 01:05:29,333 --> 01:05:32,093    Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah      1099 01:05:32,293 --> 01:05:33,283  All right.  1100 01:05:33,483 --> 01:05:36,223    Well, it's a    lonely planet joy   1101 01:05:36,423 --> 01:05:40,463    When you bring the song       from your other boys   1102 01:05:40,653 --> 01:05:48,523    That's when I'm a lonely           planet boy and I'm tryin'      1103 01:05:48,853 --> 01:05:51,323    Yeah, cryin'   1104 01:05:51,523 --> 01:05:54,823    Baby for your love   1105 01:05:55,023 --> 01:05:59,203    Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah      1106 01:06:00,283 --> 01:06:02,873  [piano solo]  1107 01:06:08,123 --> 01:06:10,003  Oh, yeah!  1108 01:06:32,113 --> 01:06:36,573    Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah      1109 01:06:36,773 --> 01:06:39,513       Can't you hear me callin'     1110 01:06:39,713 --> 01:06:44,503    When I'm a thousand    miles away   1111 01:06:44,703 --> 01:06:46,253    I don't wanna stay   1112 01:06:46,453 --> 01:06:50,713    I'm thinking of    words I gotta say   1113 01:06:50,913 --> 01:06:55,073    'Cause I wanna be    there with you   1114 01:06:55,273 --> 01:06:58,433        I know what to bring you     1115 01:06:58,633 --> 01:06:59,803    I remember   1116 01:07:00,013 --> 01:07:02,063    From the days   1117 01:07:02,263 --> 01:07:05,313    I got over   1118 01:07:05,513 --> 01:07:08,273    Everything   1119 01:07:08,473 --> 01:07:12,593    Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah      1120 01:07:12,793 --> 01:07:16,323    Well, it's a    lonely planet joy   1121 01:07:16,523 --> 01:07:20,263    When you bring a song    from your other boys   1122 01:07:20,463 --> 01:07:24,043    That's when I'm a    lonely planet boy   1123 01:07:24,243 --> 01:07:27,853    And I'm tryin'   1124 01:07:28,053 --> 01:07:30,253    Yeah, I'm cryin'   1125 01:07:30,453 --> 01:07:34,343    Oh, can't you see    that I'm dyin'   1126 01:07:34,543 --> 01:07:38,093    Baby, for your love   1127 01:07:38,293 --> 01:07:42,543    Whoa, whoa whoa, yeah       1128 01:07:42,733 --> 01:07:45,603    Whoa, whoa, yeah   1129 01:07:45,803 --> 01:07:50,143    Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah      1130 01:07:53,443 --> 01:07:56,693  [crowd cheering]  1131 01:08:04,993 --> 01:08:09,773  Let me tell you about   the time I met Mara, all right?    1132 01:08:09,973 --> 01:08:14,153      My life was going along       kind of like   Groundhog Day.     1133 01:08:14,353 --> 01:08:16,693  I didn't really see   much reason to continue  1134 01:08:16,893 --> 01:08:20,263  and then I met Mara and   oh my God, you know?  1135 01:08:20,463 --> 01:08:21,913  [applause]  1136 01:08:22,113 --> 01:08:23,263  I don't believe it.  1137 01:08:23,463 --> 01:08:26,953  -I don't believe it.   -[crowd cheering]  1138 01:08:27,153 --> 01:08:28,793  I love you, Mara.  1139 01:08:28,993 --> 01:08:30,653  I love you.  1140 01:08:30,853 --> 01:08:34,853  -Always will.   -[applause]  1141 01:08:38,153 --> 01:08:39,743  It was a scandal.  1142 01:08:39,943 --> 01:08:40,383  Oh my God.  1143 01:08:40,583 --> 01:08:43,123  But... so worth it.  1144 01:08:43,323 --> 01:08:45,913  [laughter]  1145 01:08:47,413 --> 01:08:49,353      So anyway, I wrote this...      1146 01:08:49,553 --> 01:08:52,863  I wrote this lyric...   [kiss]  1147 01:08:53,063 --> 01:08:54,153  for my love.  1148 01:08:54,353 --> 01:08:57,883  [band plays   Dancing    on the Lip of a Volcano]      1149 01:09:01,173 --> 01:09:03,433    Been cravin' more life      1150 01:09:03,633 --> 01:09:05,643    And more love   1151 01:09:05,843 --> 01:09:07,563    That lives in the soul      1152 01:09:07,763 --> 01:09:09,623    Of my heart   1153 01:09:09,823 --> 01:09:11,943    I don't wanna be   1154 01:09:12,143 --> 01:09:13,523    No artist   1155 01:09:13,723 --> 01:09:15,943    I'm a dancin', singin'      1156 01:09:16,143 --> 01:09:18,193    A work of art   1157 01:09:18,393 --> 01:09:19,723    Yeah, you lit my heart      1158 01:09:19,923 --> 01:09:25,913    With fiery aggression        and you showed me   1159 01:09:26,323 --> 01:09:28,413    This feeling of love       1160 01:09:28,613 --> 01:09:32,413    Of sex and affection    that ya owed me   1161 01:09:35,003 --> 01:09:37,673    Danger   1162 01:09:37,873 --> 01:09:42,973    And I ain't scared   1163 01:09:43,173 --> 01:09:45,603    In danger   1164 01:09:45,803 --> 01:09:50,253       I found the splendor there   1165 01:09:50,453 --> 01:09:54,923    I was dancin' on    a flamin' pit   1166 01:09:55,123 --> 01:09:56,063    Dancing   1167 01:09:56,263 --> 01:09:58,443    We are creating it   1168 01:09:58,643 --> 01:10:00,173    We're dancing   1169 01:10:00,373 --> 01:10:02,113    Right on the lip   1170 01:10:02,313 --> 01:10:05,783    Of a volcano   1171 01:10:12,203 --> 01:10:16,423        Nature with its true voice          cries out undissembled   1172 01:10:16,623 --> 01:10:19,403    Be as I am   1173 01:10:19,603 --> 01:10:25,973    Revealing its wildest    most generous incarnation     1174 01:10:28,093 --> 01:10:30,683    In danger   1175 01:10:30,883 --> 01:10:35,603    Devil may care   1176 01:10:35,803 --> 01:10:38,273    Danger   1177 01:10:38,473 --> 01:10:43,073    The fire's everywhere       1178 01:10:43,273 --> 01:10:44,743    'Cause we're dancing       1179 01:10:44,943 --> 01:10:46,703    Atop a flamin' pit   1180 01:10:46,903 --> 01:10:48,453    We're dancing   1181 01:10:48,653 --> 01:10:50,583    We are creating it   1182 01:10:50,783 --> 01:10:52,733    We're dancing   1183 01:10:52,923 --> 01:10:54,503    Right on the lip   1184 01:10:54,703 --> 01:10:58,713    Of a volcano   1185 01:10:58,913 --> 01:11:01,633  Oh yeah.   All right.  1186 01:11:01,833 --> 01:11:02,803  [guitar solo]  1187 01:11:03,003 --> 01:11:07,173  Yeah, man.   All right, man.  1188 01:11:09,513 --> 01:11:11,343  Oh, yeah!  1189 01:11:18,773 --> 01:11:22,233  [David] Oh!  1190 01:11:27,823 --> 01:11:31,533        In the center of action of          my psyche's need for love      1191 01:11:31,733 --> 01:11:35,253       I want liberation and joy     1192 01:11:35,453 --> 01:11:38,353    In a paroxysm    of intoxication   1193 01:11:38,553 --> 01:11:43,213    Inspiration ain't    no way to be coy   1194 01:11:43,413 --> 01:11:45,613    In danger   1195 01:11:45,813 --> 01:11:48,893    A blazing glare   1196 01:11:49,093 --> 01:11:51,053  Oh, yes!  1197 01:11:51,253 --> 01:11:53,603    In danger   1198 01:11:53,803 --> 01:11:58,213       I found the splendor there   1199 01:11:58,413 --> 01:11:59,383    Oh, yeah   1200 01:11:59,573 --> 01:12:02,613        Dancin' atop flamin' pit     1201 01:12:02,813 --> 01:12:05,843       Dancin', we're creating it   1202 01:12:06,043 --> 01:12:10,033    We're dancin'    right on the lip   1203 01:12:10,233 --> 01:12:14,223    Of a volcano   1204 01:12:14,423 --> 01:12:17,583    Volcano   1205 01:12:17,783 --> 01:12:23,423    A volcano   1206 01:12:25,713 --> 01:12:29,383    Thrown in the dance    with the mystics   1207 01:12:29,583 --> 01:12:33,853    It's burnin' us    up with his music   1208 01:12:34,053 --> 01:12:37,603    It's sensualistic   1209 01:12:37,803 --> 01:12:41,733    It's ritual   1210 01:12:41,933 --> 01:12:45,483    It's polytheistic   1211 01:12:48,483 --> 01:12:51,493  -[crowd cheering]   -Ye-heh-heh.  1212 01:13:00,793 --> 01:13:02,003  Whoa.  1213 01:13:02,203 --> 01:13:05,623   [Smokestack Lightning   by       The Harry Smiths playing]      1214 01:13:12,883 --> 01:13:17,773        Oh, smokestack lightning     1215 01:13:17,973 --> 01:13:21,523    Shinin' just like gold      1216 01:13:21,723 --> 01:13:27,483    Oh, don't you    hear me cryin'   1217 01:13:28,313 --> 01:13:31,493    A-whoo-hoo   1218 01:13:31,693 --> 01:13:35,333    A-whoo-hoo   1219 01:13:35,533 --> 01:13:39,913    A-whoo-hoo   1220 01:13:40,113 --> 01:13:43,753    Oh, stop your tryin'       1221 01:13:43,953 --> 01:13:47,053    Let a poor boy ride   1222 01:13:47,253 --> 01:13:53,683    Oh, don't you    hear me cryin'   1223 01:13:53,883 --> 01:13:57,223    A-whoo-hoo   1224 01:13:57,423 --> 01:14:00,853    A-whoo-hoo   1225 01:14:01,053 --> 01:14:04,853    A-whoo-hoo   1226 01:14:05,053 --> 01:14:09,903  A lot of these are from   when I sang with Hubert.  1227 01:14:10,103 --> 01:14:12,033  A lot of Howlin' Wolf  1228 01:14:12,233 --> 01:14:16,803   Wang-Dang-Doodle   and   things of that nature.  1229 01:14:17,003 --> 01:14:23,023    Oh, here's Blind Willie McTell       and his wife.  1230 01:14:23,223 --> 01:14:25,883     Apparently he shot his wife.         He only winged her.  1231 01:14:26,083 --> 01:14:29,593  But from what they say,   it may be apocryphal,  1232 01:14:29,793 --> 01:14:33,033      but they say that he stood       in the middle of the room      1233 01:14:33,233 --> 01:14:38,933  and just, like, swung   around rapid firing...  1234 01:14:39,133 --> 01:14:41,393  like a ballet dancer.  1235 01:14:41,593 --> 01:14:42,683    [interviewer] What's this one?    1236 01:14:42,883 --> 01:14:44,353  I don't know.  1237 01:14:44,553 --> 01:14:46,693  This is...  1238 01:14:46,893 --> 01:14:50,783  It says it's Buster's   big book, so...  1239 01:14:50,983 --> 01:14:52,693  let's see.  1240 01:14:52,893 --> 01:14:54,993      [Interviewer 2] Explain to           me your lyric book.  1241 01:14:55,193 --> 01:14:56,533    It's not just lyrics in there.    1242 01:14:56,733 --> 01:14:58,513  There's something else in there.  1243 01:14:58,713 --> 01:15:01,473  What's in that book that   I used for the show?  1244 01:15:01,673 --> 01:15:02,753  [Interviewer 2] Uh-huh.  1245 01:15:02,953 --> 01:15:05,673  There's a lot of, like,   devotional art in there.  1246 01:15:05,873 --> 01:15:09,793  There's millions of   Hindu gods, you know.  1247 01:15:09,993 --> 01:15:11,653  You ever go to, like,   Central Park  1248 01:15:11,853 --> 01:15:14,033  and there'll be a lot of, like,     Cuban guys and Puerto-Ricans  1249 01:15:14,233 --> 01:15:18,743       and they're all playing        congas and things like that.    1250 01:15:18,943 --> 01:15:20,623      Do they still have that there?  1251 01:15:20,823 --> 01:15:21,993  [interviewer] Yeah.  1252 01:15:22,193 --> 01:15:26,893     You know those guys that      are into, like, the Orishas?     1253 01:15:27,103 --> 01:15:30,213   So, like, say you    and me are playing.  1254 01:15:30,413 --> 01:15:33,283      'Cause you know, the rumbas          all have, you know, like...     1255 01:15:33,483 --> 01:15:38,593  saints that each beat is   dedicated to or whatever.      1256 01:15:38,793 --> 01:15:40,123      So they kind of just, like,     1257 01:15:40,323 --> 01:15:42,643  beam it up and then it   comes back down to you.  1258 01:15:42,843 --> 01:15:45,643     It's not like we're playing,         like, at each other.  1259 01:15:45,843 --> 01:15:47,523  [Interviewer 2] So when   you'll turn a page,  1260 01:15:47,723 --> 01:15:49,133  there'll be a   different image there  1261 01:15:49,333 --> 01:15:52,043  that's associated   somehow with that song.  1262 01:15:52,253 --> 01:15:53,713  It could be associated   with that song.  1263 01:15:53,913 --> 01:15:57,153  It's just something that reminds   me of what I'm there for,  1264 01:15:57,353 --> 01:15:58,343  you know.  1265 01:15:58,543 --> 01:16:00,223  Because it makes it a lot           more fun for me, you know.      1266 01:16:00,423 --> 01:16:03,013    Music to me is, you know, they       say playing music, you know.      1267 01:16:03,213 --> 01:16:05,603  They don't say   like working music.  1268 01:16:05,803 --> 01:16:07,193    You're supposed to be playing.    1269 01:16:07,393 --> 01:16:08,713  So...  1270 01:16:08,913 --> 01:16:13,523      If I don't do it as some       kind of a devotional thing,     1271 01:16:13,733 --> 01:16:16,033  it's gonna become   a grind for me.  1272 01:16:16,233 --> 01:16:20,113  [orchestral music plays]  1273 01:16:29,243 --> 01:16:32,293     You're in   the Mansion Of Fun     1274 01:16:32,493 --> 01:16:34,843  with Sri Rama,  1275 01:16:35,043 --> 01:16:37,513  Poindexter, Johansen.  1276 01:16:37,713 --> 01:16:38,903  Where...  1277 01:16:39,103 --> 01:16:40,843  aestheticism  1278 01:16:41,043 --> 01:16:43,493  and eroticism...  1279 01:16:43,693 --> 01:16:47,413    are two sides of the same coin.  1280 01:16:47,613 --> 01:16:53,023     And unwillingness to see      this exacts a terrible price     1281 01:16:53,223 --> 01:16:55,003  in prudery, misery  1282 01:16:55,203 --> 01:16:58,783  and warped lives.  1283 01:16:58,983 --> 01:17:00,223    I'm just a bad boy   1284 01:17:00,423 --> 01:17:03,323    La la la la la la    la la la la la la   1285 01:17:03,523 --> 01:17:08,163    La la la la la la        la la la la la   1286 01:17:08,363 --> 01:17:14,673    All dressed up    in fancy clothes   1287 01:17:14,873 --> 01:17:18,763    I'm taking the trouble      1288 01:17:18,963 --> 01:17:22,803    To blow my bubble   1289 01:17:23,003 --> 01:17:25,513    Away   1290 01:17:30,013 --> 01:17:31,713    Bad boy   1291 01:17:31,913 --> 01:17:34,363    La la la la la la    la la la la la la   1292 01:17:34,563 --> 01:17:39,993    La la la la la la    la la la la la   1293 01:17:40,193 --> 01:17:45,833    Life is just    a bowl of cherries   1294 01:17:46,033 --> 01:17:49,753    I'm taking the trouble      1295 01:17:49,953 --> 01:17:55,293       To turn my night into day     1296 01:17:58,883 --> 01:18:01,633  You, were in the vanguard       of punk, new wave,  1297 01:18:01,833 --> 01:18:02,933  with the New York Dolls.  1298 01:18:03,133 --> 01:18:04,823  Legendary group.  1299 01:18:05,023 --> 01:18:07,413  Now, what made you   completely abandon  1300 01:18:07,613 --> 01:18:10,733  that kind of rock and   roll that you were doing?      1301 01:18:10,933 --> 01:18:13,193  I understand in Cleveland       you just decided  1302 01:18:13,393 --> 01:18:15,423      that you had enough of it.      1303 01:18:15,623 --> 01:18:17,643  Well, I'll tell you.  1304 01:18:19,273 --> 01:18:21,243  Contrary to popular   belief, you know,  1305 01:18:21,443 --> 01:18:22,883  because the Dolls   were such, like,  1306 01:18:23,083 --> 01:18:27,763  a shock kind of   troop battalion that...  1307 01:18:27,963 --> 01:18:29,123  I think a lot of people   didn't realize that  1308 01:18:29,323 --> 01:18:31,583  the Dolls music was...  1309 01:18:33,083 --> 01:18:34,333    built like basically, you know,  1310 01:18:34,533 --> 01:18:36,813      the roots of the thing was           really rhythm and blues.  1311 01:18:37,013 --> 01:18:38,693      And it was, like, a       classic rock and roll band.     1312 01:18:38,893 --> 01:18:40,073  What makes a classic   rock and roll band?  1313 01:18:40,273 --> 01:18:42,743   Big Fat Mamas    Are Back In Style.  1314 01:18:42,943 --> 01:18:44,953      And... uh   Lavender Coffin?      1315 01:18:45,153 --> 01:18:47,783      Lavender... All I want is a          lavender coffin  1316 01:18:47,983 --> 01:18:51,143     and what I call pre-haze cold        rock and roll.  1317 01:18:51,343 --> 01:18:55,313     [interviewer] How did Buster         Poindexter become?  1318 01:18:55,513 --> 01:18:58,753  Well, basically, after   the Dolls, you know  1319 01:18:58,953 --> 01:19:01,323  I did the David Johansen   show for many years.  1320 01:19:01,523 --> 01:19:05,053  I was on the road for   like 250 nights a year.  1321 01:19:05,253 --> 01:19:06,413  And I had a lot of fun.  1322 01:19:06,613 --> 01:19:08,183     But after a while, you know,         you want to come back home  1323 01:19:08,383 --> 01:19:10,033  you want to kind of   establish relationships  1324 01:19:10,233 --> 01:19:11,293  and things like that.  1325 01:19:11,493 --> 01:19:13,103  So I came up with   this brilliant idea  1326 01:19:13,303 --> 01:19:14,853      to come up with an act that         could only play in New York.     1327 01:19:15,053 --> 01:19:18,813      There was a club in my       neighborhood called Tramps      1328 01:19:19,013 --> 01:19:21,943  and I thought I was gonna       do four Mondays there  1329 01:19:22,143 --> 01:19:23,363      because, it was a Blues bar     1330 01:19:23,563 --> 01:19:25,993  but they didn't have   acts on Mondays.  1331 01:19:26,193 --> 01:19:28,163    And so I thought I'd do, well,       since there's nobody there  1332 01:19:28,363 --> 01:19:30,083  on Monday, I'd try this   little cabaret thing  1333 01:19:30,283 --> 01:19:33,643  with, like, three   guys as a backup band.  1334 01:19:33,843 --> 01:19:35,103      And I started doing it and      1335 01:19:35,303 --> 01:19:38,423      it caught on and all of a       sudden I was making my nut,     1336 01:19:38,623 --> 01:19:39,333  so to speak.  1337 01:19:39,533 --> 01:19:41,073    And I wasn't going on the road.  1338 01:19:41,273 --> 01:19:44,593      I wanted to do a show that       would entertain my peers,      1339 01:19:44,793 --> 01:19:45,823  so to speak.  1340 01:19:46,023 --> 01:19:47,593  Now your peers, you're   what, 36 now, about?  1341 01:19:47,793 --> 01:19:48,743  I'm 37.  1342 01:19:48,943 --> 01:19:49,913  -Thirty-seven now.   -For a few more minutes.  1343 01:19:50,113 --> 01:19:51,413  Really inching up there.  1344 01:19:51,613 --> 01:19:53,993    -"Inching up there," to where?       -Well, I don't know.  1345 01:19:54,203 --> 01:19:55,483     -To the end.      -The next thing you'll be 40.    1346 01:19:55,683 --> 01:19:57,703  -This is the big one.   -[laughter] Right.  1347 01:20:01,003 --> 01:20:04,173  OK, there's two   Yiddish hipsters.  1348 01:20:04,373 --> 01:20:05,823  It's a short joke.  1349 01:20:06,023 --> 01:20:11,203  Two Yiddish hipsters   sitting on a park bench  1350 01:20:11,403 --> 01:20:13,763  and one of them says  1351 01:20:13,973 --> 01:20:15,393  "Oy."  1352 01:20:15,593 --> 01:20:19,043  And the other one says,   "I'm hip."  1353 01:20:19,243 --> 01:20:20,173  OK?  1354 01:20:20,373 --> 01:20:23,053  [interviewer] Do you ever       write down, not jokes,  1355 01:20:23,243 --> 01:20:25,803  but, like, banter and   things you wanna say?  1356 01:20:26,003 --> 01:20:26,993  Banter?  1357 01:20:27,193 --> 01:20:30,683  Like things you wanna say       between songs that aren't jokes?  1358 01:20:30,883 --> 01:20:32,033      You mean that aren't funny?     1359 01:20:32,233 --> 01:20:34,413  -Yeah.   -No.  1360 01:20:34,743 --> 01:20:36,043  No.  1361 01:20:36,243 --> 01:20:41,133    I mean, you know, if I'm     playing in, like, a big place,    1362 01:20:41,333 --> 01:20:43,983  I'm not, like,   telling jokes because...  1363 01:20:44,183 --> 01:20:48,883   The David Johansen band    went on this whole tour  1364 01:20:49,083 --> 01:20:53,083      with Pat Benatar       and you know, she's great.      1365 01:20:53,273 --> 01:20:55,813    She can really belt out a tune.  1366 01:20:56,013 --> 01:20:57,703  But...  1367 01:20:57,903 --> 01:20:59,123      they would kinda look at me     1368 01:20:59,323 --> 01:21:02,633     like I was a bug a lot of the        times in those...  1369 01:21:02,833 --> 01:21:05,883  hockey rinks, you know?  1370 01:21:06,083 --> 01:21:08,783  [interviewer] Like you   were a little guy  1371 01:21:08,983 --> 01:21:10,863    or like you were a freak or...    1372 01:21:11,063 --> 01:21:13,513  Like a bug.   [laughter]  1373 01:21:13,713 --> 01:21:16,603    [interviewer] And what kind of       songs can Buster sing  1374 01:21:16,803 --> 01:21:18,743  that you can't sing?  1375 01:21:19,583 --> 01:21:20,913  Uh...  1376 01:21:23,873 --> 01:21:26,673  Everything.   I mean, you know,  1377 01:21:26,873 --> 01:21:33,283  I can sing, you know,   a lot of kinds of songs, but...    1378 01:21:33,483 --> 01:21:35,303  I think I already went   through this with you.  1379 01:21:35,503 --> 01:21:40,063      Like, Buster is just like,       I can do anything I want.      1380 01:21:40,263 --> 01:21:41,683  People aren't...  1381 01:21:43,353 --> 01:21:44,983  expecting something else.      1382 01:21:45,183 --> 01:21:49,723  They come because   it's unexpected,  1383 01:21:49,913 --> 01:21:52,153     what I'm gonna do, you know?     1384 01:21:52,353 --> 01:21:56,913  And they kind of trust   that it's gonna be good  1385 01:21:57,113 --> 01:21:59,753  and it's always good.   What can I say?  1386 01:21:59,953 --> 01:22:01,413   [Totalitarian State   plays]     1387 01:22:01,613 --> 01:22:04,923    I woke up late one day      1388 01:22:05,123 --> 01:22:08,253    And turned on my TV   1389 01:22:08,453 --> 01:22:12,423    They said they'd    take it all   1390 01:22:12,633 --> 01:22:14,993    When I was asleep   1391 01:22:15,193 --> 01:22:16,603    Well they were    bringing down doors   1392 01:22:16,803 --> 01:22:19,433    They were purging    and burning   1393 01:22:19,633 --> 01:22:22,123    People just like me   1394 01:22:22,323 --> 01:22:26,193    Well I fixed a drink,   I switched around the channel     1395 01:22:26,393 --> 01:22:29,323    But that was    all I could see   1396 01:22:29,523 --> 01:22:31,173    Well it's such    a boring feeling   1397 01:22:31,373 --> 01:22:33,783    When you find that    you're fallin' to a   1398 01:22:33,983 --> 01:22:36,513    Totalitarian state   1399 01:22:36,713 --> 01:22:38,783        Well, I know what's left     1400 01:22:38,983 --> 01:22:40,413    It don't seem right   1401 01:22:40,613 --> 01:22:43,643    You just don't    feel so great   1402 01:22:43,843 --> 01:22:45,353    Well it seems    we're all camping   1403 01:22:45,553 --> 01:22:48,003    And the Mexicans    was laughing   1404 01:22:48,203 --> 01:22:50,653    Down at the    detention center   1405 01:22:50,853 --> 01:22:54,933    They didn't seem to care       that they were there   1406 01:22:55,133 --> 01:22:58,183    I couldn't find    one dissenter   1407 01:22:58,383 --> 01:23:00,183    I didn't feel communal      1408 01:23:00,383 --> 01:23:02,223    I was incommunicado   1409 01:23:02,423 --> 01:23:05,903    I couldn't see it    getting any better   1410 01:23:06,103 --> 01:23:07,863    I couldn't call no one      1411 01:23:08,063 --> 01:23:09,573    I wish I had a gun   1412 01:23:09,773 --> 01:23:12,573    I couldn't even    send a letter   1413 01:23:12,773 --> 01:23:14,223       It's such a boring feeling   1414 01:23:14,423 --> 01:23:16,513    When you find that    you're falling   1415 01:23:16,713 --> 01:23:19,873        To a totalitarian state      1416 01:23:20,073 --> 01:23:21,953    I know what's left   1417 01:23:22,153 --> 01:23:23,453    It don't seem right   1418 01:23:23,653 --> 01:23:27,233    You just don't    feel so great   1419 01:23:27,433 --> 01:23:28,693        When they came to get me     1420 01:23:28,893 --> 01:23:31,503    I'd hope they would    forgive me   1421 01:23:31,703 --> 01:23:33,803    I tried playing dead       1422 01:23:34,003 --> 01:23:38,053    I finished my drink,    assessed the situation       1423 01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:40,723    Put the covers    up over my head   1424 01:23:40,923 --> 01:23:42,703    I quit   1425 01:23:42,903 --> 01:23:44,723  [piano solo]  1426 01:24:10,503 --> 01:24:13,293  [drum solo]  1427 01:24:31,233 --> 01:24:34,103  [rock music]  1428 01:24:44,283 --> 01:24:46,333        Well, me and my friends      1429 01:24:46,533 --> 01:24:51,213    All hang out in a    non-litigious crowd   1430 01:24:51,413 --> 01:24:55,483    We're sensitive to    other people's needs   1431 01:24:55,683 --> 01:24:58,633        And on this we are proud     1432 01:24:58,833 --> 01:25:02,343    But this situation    really bites   1433 01:25:02,543 --> 01:25:05,993   I mean, for crying out loud     1434 01:25:06,193 --> 01:25:08,063        I don't know what to do      1435 01:25:08,263 --> 01:25:10,003    I feel like a fool   1436 01:25:10,203 --> 01:25:13,403        This time I'm gonna sue      1437 01:25:13,603 --> 01:25:15,173       It's such a boring feeling   1438 01:25:15,373 --> 01:25:17,283    When you find that    you're fallin' to a   1439 01:25:17,483 --> 01:25:20,453    Totalitarian state   1440 01:25:20,653 --> 01:25:22,283    You know what's left       1441 01:25:22,483 --> 01:25:23,993    It don't seem right   1442 01:25:24,193 --> 01:25:27,453   It just don't seem so great     1443 01:25:27,653 --> 01:25:29,353  -Oh!   -[crowd cheering]  1444 01:25:29,553 --> 01:25:32,703  Whoa.   Whoa.  1445 01:25:34,583 --> 01:25:36,713  Hey, hey.  1446 01:25:37,423 --> 01:25:39,343  Hey, hey.  1447 01:25:40,503 --> 01:25:44,833   Totalitarian State...   Baby!  1448 01:25:45,023 --> 01:25:48,253  [interviewer] It sounds like   you've never really been bitter    1449 01:25:48,443 --> 01:25:49,603  about the fact that  1450 01:25:49,803 --> 01:25:52,603  the Dolls never garnered   these huge wages,  1451 01:25:52,803 --> 01:25:54,233  whereas you could   look at bands like  1452 01:25:54,433 --> 01:25:55,463  Kiss and Aerosmith  1453 01:25:55,663 --> 01:25:56,773  and they made a   pretty good dime off  1454 01:25:56,973 --> 01:25:58,383     -Yeah.      -[interviewer] essentially a     1455 01:25:58,583 --> 01:25:59,863  watered-down version   of what you were doing.  1456 01:26:00,063 --> 01:26:03,843  Yeah, no. We, we were   a band's band, you know?  1457 01:26:04,043 --> 01:26:04,683  In a lot of ways.  1458 01:26:04,883 --> 01:26:06,183  And we influenced   a lot of bands  1459 01:26:06,383 --> 01:26:08,973  and a lot of kids   were influenced by us  1460 01:26:09,173 --> 01:26:10,103     who started bands, you know.     1461 01:26:10,303 --> 01:26:13,083   Take the Ramones.  1462 01:26:13,283 --> 01:26:14,523       The Ramones saw us and they,    1463 01:26:14,723 --> 01:26:16,213   they looked at each    other and said,  1464 01:26:16,413 --> 01:26:17,883  "Hey, if these guys can   do that, we can do that."      1465 01:26:18,083 --> 01:26:21,263  And to have influence   like that on people,  1466 01:26:21,463 --> 01:26:24,473  I think, is really good,   you know.  1467 01:26:24,673 --> 01:26:26,893  To give people the...  1468 01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:27,663  the idea like,  1469 01:26:27,863 --> 01:26:29,583  "Hey, I could do that."  1470 01:26:29,783 --> 01:26:33,123   [Piece Of My Heart   by Emma Franklin plays]  1471 01:26:33,323 --> 01:26:36,813  Wow, listen to   how sweet that is.  1472 01:26:38,563 --> 01:26:42,723    Didn't I make you feel      1473 01:26:42,923 --> 01:26:48,073  - Like you were the only man      -Whoo!  1474 01:26:49,823 --> 01:26:51,733  That's probably   Aretha playing piano.  1475 01:26:51,923 --> 01:26:53,413   - Didn't I give you    everything    -You know that?  1476 01:26:53,613 --> 01:26:55,083       That a woman possibly can     1477 01:26:55,283 --> 01:26:57,583  -Is this her sister?   -Yeah.  1478 01:26:57,793 --> 01:27:01,383    But with all the    love I give ya   1479 01:27:01,583 --> 01:27:02,763    It's never enough   1480 01:27:02,963 --> 01:27:05,473   But I'm gonna show ya, baby     1481 01:27:05,673 --> 01:27:08,583       That a woman can be tough     1482 01:27:08,773 --> 01:27:11,413 [interviewer]   Is there any        music you just don't like?     1483 01:27:11,613 --> 01:27:15,353  Most, most stuff on   the radio. [laughs]  1484 01:27:15,553 --> 01:27:16,733  I don't even know   what I don't like,  1485 01:27:16,933 --> 01:27:19,063     because I just don't hear it.    1486 01:27:19,263 --> 01:27:20,403  You know?   It doesn't,  1487 01:27:20,603 --> 01:27:22,613  if I like something it stops in     the middle of my head  1488 01:27:22,813 --> 01:27:24,113      and it just rattles around      1489 01:27:24,313 --> 01:27:28,123    and if I don't like it it just       kind of goes through me and  1490 01:27:28,323 --> 01:27:29,123  I don't grab it.  1491 01:27:29,323 --> 01:27:31,603     You know, my show is not like    1492 01:27:31,803 --> 01:27:33,373  something that...  1493 01:27:35,453 --> 01:27:40,213  your average kid   would understand.  1494 01:27:40,413 --> 01:27:43,053  [interviewer] Why not?  1495 01:27:43,253 --> 01:27:44,213  Why not?  1496 01:27:44,423 --> 01:27:47,183  Because it's, it's   out of the ordinary,  1497 01:27:47,383 --> 01:27:50,343    you know, it's kind of like...    1498 01:27:51,683 --> 01:27:55,063     it's got, it's like peculiar         to my taste, you know.  1499 01:27:55,263 --> 01:28:01,503   [L'amour est un oiseau    rebelle (Havanaise)   plays]     1500 01:28:01,703 --> 01:28:06,153      That Marilyn Horne version,          she gets right to the meat.     1501 01:28:14,323 --> 01:28:15,813    Did the folks play that stuff?    1502 01:28:16,013 --> 01:28:17,603     -How'd you get turned on to--        -Oh, you know, my old man,  1503 01:28:17,803 --> 01:28:20,203  he was an opera singer.  1504 01:28:21,793 --> 01:28:23,673  And it's like, all that we heard  1505 01:28:23,873 --> 01:28:25,843  had been classical   music when I was a kid,  1506 01:28:26,043 --> 01:28:27,633    -[woman] Oh.     -which used to drive me crazy.    1507 01:28:27,833 --> 01:28:29,493  -[woman] Mm-hmm.   -My old man would be like      1508 01:28:29,693 --> 01:28:30,913  wearing his army clothes,       paint in the house  1509 01:28:31,113 --> 01:28:32,783  and the   Texaco Opera   on the Grundig  1510 01:28:32,983 --> 01:28:35,183  would be in the window,   blaring out.  1511 01:28:35,383 --> 01:28:36,563     And my friends would come by,    1512 01:28:36,763 --> 01:28:39,063      on Saturday and I'd be like          holding the ladder  1513 01:28:39,263 --> 01:28:40,543  and I'd be like...  1514 01:28:40,743 --> 01:28:43,673  [music continues]  1515 01:28:43,873 --> 01:28:45,533 [David]   My old man would    be up there like  1516 01:28:45,733 --> 01:28:47,053  [loudly imitating opera singing]  1517 01:28:47,253 --> 01:28:48,633  [interviewer chuffs]  1518 01:28:48,833 --> 01:28:50,493   And now...  1519 01:28:50,693 --> 01:28:54,473   and now it's all    over your radio show.  1520 01:28:54,673 --> 01:28:56,703  [instrumentation peaks]  1521 01:28:56,903 --> 01:28:58,643     This next song, I wrote it to    1522 01:28:58,843 --> 01:29:01,413  a Lightnin' Hopkins song.      1523 01:29:02,123 --> 01:29:03,363   Texas Blues.  1524 01:29:03,563 --> 01:29:05,443      I gave the lyrics to Brian,     1525 01:29:05,643 --> 01:29:06,883  see what he wanted   to do with it.  1526 01:29:07,083 --> 01:29:09,363  And he came up with   this really great song  1527 01:29:09,563 --> 01:29:11,783  and we're gonna   sing it for you now.  1528 01:29:11,983 --> 01:29:14,683      So the only one who sounds           like Lightnin' Hopkins  1529 01:29:14,883 --> 01:29:17,043  in this version is me.  1530 01:29:17,243 --> 01:29:20,423  [audience laughs]  1531 01:29:20,613 --> 01:29:22,423  I give you that Eddie   Murphy smile, like...  1532 01:29:22,623 --> 01:29:25,943  [audience laughs]  1533 01:29:27,943 --> 01:29:33,493  [Wandering Spirit Prayer   plays]    1534 01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:58,973    I keep watching    and wondering   1535 01:29:59,173 --> 01:30:05,183    Why a little bird    flies up to the sky   1536 01:30:06,523 --> 01:30:12,843    Only God knows,    maybe he don't   1537 01:30:13,043 --> 01:30:19,163    You know that holy    talk has been a lie   1538 01:30:20,163 --> 01:30:26,403    I keep praying    it's the truth   1539 01:30:26,603 --> 01:30:32,503    And I ain't got    no death to die   1540 01:30:33,753 --> 01:30:38,473   I ain't got no death to die     1541 01:30:46,933 --> 01:30:53,323    Yeah, I keep    hollering and prayin'       1542 01:30:54,033 --> 01:31:00,203    I don't have to be    such a hurtful bum   1543 01:31:00,823 --> 01:31:06,563    How could I    sometimes be so good   1544 01:31:06,763 --> 01:31:12,713    And turn around and    be so wrong to some   1545 01:31:14,213 --> 01:31:20,383    Ah, what's the use    of all this praying   1546 01:31:21,143 --> 01:31:28,113    When I don't know    the spirit from   1547 01:31:28,313 --> 01:31:34,403    The spirit from who    this prayer have come       1548 01:31:48,503 --> 01:31:51,463        That old eternal spirit      1549 01:31:51,663 --> 01:31:55,033   Always whispering in my ear     1550 01:31:55,233 --> 01:31:57,723        Radiance of the infinite     1551 01:31:57,923 --> 01:32:01,763    Seems to be everywhere      1552 01:32:02,893 --> 01:32:07,103   But my weary eyes can't see     1553 01:32:08,273 --> 01:32:14,403    And I'm afraid my    old ears cannot hear   1554 01:32:16,363 --> 01:32:22,453    Afraid my old    ears cannot hear   1555 01:32:33,253 --> 01:32:39,463    You've been a    consolation of my life       1556 01:32:41,593 --> 01:32:47,313   And you will be of my death     1557 01:32:48,063 --> 01:32:54,153    And I pray that    you'll have mercy   1558 01:32:54,733 --> 01:33:00,483        Moment of my last breath     1559 01:33:01,943 --> 01:33:07,953    I know these    words of weariness   1560 01:33:08,163 --> 01:33:15,213    Just don't make me wander      from death to death   1561 01:33:15,413 --> 01:33:21,513    Don't make me wander    from death to death   1562 01:33:50,953 --> 01:33:52,793    [audience cheers and applauds]    1563 01:33:52,993 --> 01:33:53,713  Beautiful.  1564 01:33:53,913 --> 01:33:58,383    [audience cheers and applauds]    1565 01:33:59,463 --> 01:34:03,363  [Ben Vereen] Now, our next guest      is truly a unique rock star.     1566 01:34:03,563 --> 01:34:08,103      I mean he's what you call a        free spirit, a knockout singer,  1567 01:34:08,303 --> 01:34:11,123      starting a heat wave right           here at the Waldorf-Astoria     1568 01:34:11,323 --> 01:34:14,773 singing   Hot Hot Hot,   Buster Poindexter!  1569 01:34:14,973 --> 01:34:16,773      -[audience cheers]       -[Drummer] One, two, three!     1570 01:34:16,973 --> 01:34:20,803   -[Hot Hot Hot   plays]    - Ole-Ole-Ole-Ole   1571 01:34:21,003 --> 01:34:26,033    Ole-Ole-Ole-Ole   1572 01:34:26,233 --> 01:34:31,703     That was like, the bane of my       existence, that song, you know.  1573 01:34:33,083 --> 01:34:34,713  I don't know how I   feel about it now.  1574 01:34:34,913 --> 01:34:36,693      I haven't heard it lately.      1575 01:34:36,893 --> 01:34:37,983  [interviewer] Would   you hear it like  1576 01:34:38,183 --> 01:34:39,213  all over the place like--      1577 01:34:39,413 --> 01:34:40,883  Oh, God, that's   ubiquitous, that song.  1578 01:34:41,083 --> 01:34:44,493     It was like, forget about it.    1579 01:34:44,693 --> 01:34:45,973  It's like, you know,  1580 01:34:46,173 --> 01:34:52,433  they play it at weddings,           bar mitzvahs. It's like...      1581 01:34:52,633 --> 01:34:53,583  [interviewer] Six Flags.  1582 01:34:53,783 --> 01:34:54,773  Six Flags! [laughs]  1583 01:34:54,973 --> 01:34:56,813    Hot hot hot   1584 01:34:57,013 --> 01:34:58,613    Hot hot hot   1585 01:34:58,813 --> 01:35:00,303    Hot hot hot   1586 01:35:00,503 --> 01:35:02,943   [David]   They used to have a show   on VH1 called   One Hit Wonders.     1587 01:35:03,143 --> 01:35:07,513   And I was on it    twice because I sang,  1588 01:35:07,713 --> 01:35:13,753  you know, like that Animals   medley thing as David Johansen.    1589 01:35:13,953 --> 01:35:16,083  And then I sang    Hot Hot Hot   as Buster,  1590 01:35:16,283 --> 01:35:20,363  so I was a one hit wonder twice.  1591 01:35:20,563 --> 01:35:23,763 [interviewer]   Did you    have like a vision for  1592 01:35:23,963 --> 01:35:25,823   what your life would    be like at this point?  1593 01:35:26,023 --> 01:35:28,973 [David]   You can make plans        and they're fun to do,  1594 01:35:29,173 --> 01:35:33,313  but they're rarely...  1595 01:35:33,513 --> 01:35:35,753  What you want to do by   the time you get there.  1596 01:35:35,953 --> 01:35:38,483     I think I used to be like...     1597 01:35:39,693 --> 01:35:41,153  five year increments.  1598 01:35:41,353 --> 01:35:43,743      Where I'll be in five years           or whatever, when I was a kid.  1599 01:35:43,943 --> 01:35:45,073 [interviewer]   Yeah.  1600 01:35:45,273 --> 01:35:46,553 [David]   Somebody    said that some guy  1601 01:35:46,753 --> 01:35:48,703   who was a record producer,     1602 01:35:48,903 --> 01:35:51,103  he was a...   he was a millionaire.  1603 01:35:51,303 --> 01:35:53,023  And I thought,   "Wow, a millionaire."  1604 01:35:53,223 --> 01:35:54,293  He was 23, you know?  1605 01:35:54,493 --> 01:35:56,603      And I was like,       "Wow, a millionaire at 23.      1606 01:35:56,803 --> 01:35:57,943  That'd be great."  1607 01:35:58,143 --> 01:36:01,213  But I didn't...  1608 01:36:01,413 --> 01:36:04,613      I came to realize, well,       that's not really so good.      1609 01:36:04,813 --> 01:36:07,843     Because the guy, turned out,     1610 01:36:08,043 --> 01:36:08,953  he was a murderer.  1611 01:36:09,153 --> 01:36:10,473  [both laugh]  1612 01:36:10,673 --> 01:36:13,563      -Do I want to do like this?          -[Mara] Yeah.  1613 01:36:13,763 --> 01:36:14,773  Yeah. I like this.  1614 01:36:14,973 --> 01:36:16,253  [Mara] Get the oil   off your chest.  1615 01:36:16,453 --> 01:36:17,693  Just because I'm   not like responding,  1616 01:36:17,893 --> 01:36:19,833  doesn't mean I'm not in ecstasy.  1617 01:36:20,033 --> 01:36:23,633      [Mara laughs] I know that.           We're married.  1618 01:36:23,833 --> 01:36:24,923  Here you go.  1619 01:36:25,123 --> 01:36:26,513 [interviewer]   So what    were you saying Mommy  1620 01:36:26,713 --> 01:36:28,843   about what we wanna make        sure we get in this?  1621 01:36:29,043 --> 01:36:32,013 [Mara]   You spend a lot of        time putting on a show,  1622 01:36:32,213 --> 01:36:35,503       while you're keeping hidden           not just your interior life,    1623 01:36:35,703 --> 01:36:38,733      but a lot of other aspects           of your life, right?  1624 01:36:38,933 --> 01:36:40,063  -And--   -Yeah.  1625 01:36:40,263 --> 01:36:41,423  You guys see the pants?  1626 01:36:41,623 --> 01:36:43,983      [interviewer] I can see       the, the pants are yellow.      1627 01:36:44,183 --> 01:36:45,303      -That's good.       -[interviewer] But I can't      1628 01:36:45,503 --> 01:36:47,093  see like the whole   style of the pants.  1629 01:36:47,293 --> 01:36:48,403  That's OK.  1630 01:36:48,603 --> 01:36:49,953  [interviewer] You wanna   see what you look like?  1631 01:36:50,153 --> 01:36:51,933  I wanna see what   you're gonna shoot.  1632 01:36:52,133 --> 01:36:53,833  It's best to leave   an incomplete--  1633 01:36:54,033 --> 01:36:56,163  -[Mara] Yeah.   -picture of yourself.  1634 01:36:56,363 --> 01:36:57,603      [Mara] Can we have the, uh,     1635 01:36:57,803 --> 01:37:00,293    like can we have the     coquettes showing on the book?    1636 01:37:00,493 --> 01:37:01,713  [interviewer] I was   gonna have David  1637 01:37:01,913 --> 01:37:03,113     look at that book, actually.     1638 01:37:03,313 --> 01:37:04,943  [Mara] Oh!  1639 01:37:05,143 --> 01:37:08,473  I mean let's face it.     We've been very happy together.  1640 01:37:08,673 --> 01:37:12,283  We're very happy   and Leah is very happy.  1641 01:37:12,483 --> 01:37:14,243  That's like really   good because...  1642 01:37:14,443 --> 01:37:18,753  occasionally we have to   deal with like, you know,      1643 01:37:18,953 --> 01:37:20,653  I don't wanna use   the word crisis.  1644 01:37:20,843 --> 01:37:22,003  But you know, whatever.  1645 01:37:22,203 --> 01:37:23,503    -Something that's--     -[Mara] We've had some crises.    1646 01:37:23,703 --> 01:37:24,923  Yeah.  1647 01:37:26,673 --> 01:37:31,413     [interviewer]   As we get        older, we accumulate ghosts.    1648 01:37:31,613 --> 01:37:33,683    'Cause, you know,     there's a lot more dead people    1649 01:37:33,883 --> 01:37:37,163      than there are the living.      1650 01:37:37,363 --> 01:37:41,433   I've lived through    like, Vietnam War,  1651 01:37:42,103 --> 01:37:44,423   the AIDS epidemic...  1652 01:37:44,623 --> 01:37:46,673      and so many things, you know?    1653 01:37:46,873 --> 01:37:48,233   And had people who I love      1654 01:37:48,443 --> 01:37:52,913  that have died from COVID       very recently, you know.  1655 01:37:53,113 --> 01:37:55,103    Put your sweet lips   1656 01:37:55,303 --> 01:37:59,123        A little closer to mine      1657 01:37:59,323 --> 01:38:01,923   You know, there's    Hal Wilner, for example.      1658 01:38:02,123 --> 01:38:03,773  [interviewer] Given   that you lost someone  1659 01:38:03,973 --> 01:38:05,233  in your band at 21,  1660 01:38:05,433 --> 01:38:09,153     was an early death something          that you yourself feared...     1661 01:38:09,353 --> 01:38:11,423  -when this--   -No.  1662 01:38:12,053 --> 01:38:15,473    No. I never learned my lesson.    1663 01:38:17,303 --> 01:38:18,913  [soft music playing]  1664 01:38:19,113 --> 01:38:21,063  You know, after I was   in the original Dolls,  1665 01:38:21,263 --> 01:38:27,523  the ones that there was a lot of   you know, catastrophic stuff.      1666 01:38:27,723 --> 01:38:32,863      I had a band called David       Johansen Band I made for...     1667 01:38:33,063 --> 01:38:33,973  [clapping]  1668 01:38:34,173 --> 01:38:36,533  We got in a van and   went back and forth,  1669 01:38:36,733 --> 01:38:40,083      across this country about,       I don't know, nine times,      1670 01:38:40,283 --> 01:38:44,543  opening for heavy mental   acts at hockey rinks.  1671 01:38:44,743 --> 01:38:46,113  Oh my God.  1672 01:38:46,303 --> 01:38:49,073  When I think of that...  1673 01:38:49,273 --> 01:38:51,843  It killed me.   It actually killed me.  1674 01:38:53,553 --> 01:38:57,803  These guys, they called   magazines, books.  1675 01:38:58,003 --> 01:38:59,083  [laughing]  1676 01:38:59,283 --> 01:39:00,723  OK.  1677 01:39:01,393 --> 01:39:03,543  So, what are you   readin' there, pal?  1678 01:39:03,743 --> 01:39:05,023   Viva.  1679 01:39:06,023 --> 01:39:08,113  My book.  1680 01:39:08,313 --> 01:39:10,803      I said, that's not a book.           That's a   Viva Magazine.  1681 01:39:11,003 --> 01:39:13,613  You know what I'm saying?      1682 01:39:13,813 --> 01:39:17,933      Thank God they had, they'd         come out with Walkmans by then,  1683 01:39:18,133 --> 01:39:20,083  you know.  1684 01:39:20,283 --> 01:39:23,453     And of course gin, you know,         which they always had.  1685 01:39:23,663 --> 01:39:25,773      A one, two, three, four...      1686 01:39:25,973 --> 01:39:29,213 [plays   Frenchette]  1687 01:39:49,393 --> 01:39:54,283   You call that love in French,     but it's just Frenchette   1688 01:39:54,483 --> 01:40:00,833    I've been to France,    so let's just dance   1689 01:40:01,033 --> 01:40:06,273    I get all the love    I need in a luncheonette      1690 01:40:06,473 --> 01:40:12,753    In just one glance,    so let's just dance   1691 01:40:13,463 --> 01:40:19,393    I can't get the kind    of love that I want   1692 01:40:19,593 --> 01:40:21,013    And I need   1693 01:40:21,213 --> 01:40:24,763    So let's just dance   1694 01:40:25,933 --> 01:40:30,443    You come on like it's        all natural darling   1695 01:40:30,643 --> 01:40:32,073    But you know   1696 01:40:32,273 --> 01:40:36,303    Oh it's really    only naturalette   1697 01:40:36,503 --> 01:40:40,323    It's just like all of    your leathers darling   1698 01:40:40,523 --> 01:40:41,803    They don't scare me   1699 01:40:42,003 --> 01:40:48,103    I know what's really    only leatherette   1700 01:40:48,303 --> 01:40:52,153    I could take it down    and wash it down   1701 01:40:52,353 --> 01:40:58,303    I scrub you on down    in any old launderette       1702 01:41:00,633 --> 01:41:05,453    I can't get the kind    of love, that I want   1703 01:41:05,653 --> 01:41:11,813    Let's just dance    and I 'll forget   1704 01:41:12,853 --> 01:41:17,243    I want you to    come in my kitchen   1705 01:41:17,443 --> 01:41:19,283    Not my kitchenette   1706 01:41:19,483 --> 01:41:23,373    I want you to come    in my dining room   1707 01:41:23,573 --> 01:41:25,203    Not my dinette   1708 01:41:25,403 --> 01:41:27,773    I can't get the    kind of love   1709 01:41:27,973 --> 01:41:31,963    So let's just dance    and I'll forget   1710 01:41:32,163 --> 01:41:38,133    I can't the kind of love       that I want and I need   1711 01:41:38,333 --> 01:41:41,803    So let's just dance   1712 01:41:42,003 --> 01:41:47,473    I can't the kind of love       that I want and I need   1713 01:41:47,673 --> 01:41:49,273    So let's just dance   1714 01:41:49,473 --> 01:41:53,683  Come on, boys!   So let's just dance!  1715 01:41:54,433 --> 01:41:56,853  [guitar solo]  1716 01:42:16,253 --> 01:42:21,093    Oh woah-wo-wo-wo-wo   1717 01:42:21,293 --> 01:42:22,343  Come on, every one join.  1718 01:42:22,543 --> 01:42:24,923    Oh woah-wo-wo-wo-wo   1719 01:42:27,683 --> 01:42:32,393    Remember how we marveled           darling, we was marveling      1720 01:42:32,593 --> 01:42:37,213    We were marveling    at The Marvelettes   1721 01:42:37,413 --> 01:42:41,223    Yeah we fell in    love with Veronica   1722 01:42:41,413 --> 01:42:46,363    And every last one    of The Ronettes   1723 01:42:47,823 --> 01:42:51,123    It sure got hot    when Levis Stubbs   1724 01:42:51,323 --> 01:42:52,663    He got burned boy   1725 01:42:52,863 --> 01:42:57,733    Messing around    with Bernadette   1726 01:42:57,933 --> 01:43:01,673   You call that love in French,     but it's just Frenchette   1727 01:43:01,873 --> 01:43:06,973    I've been to France,    so let's just dance   1728 01:43:07,173 --> 01:43:11,293    I get all the love I    need in a luncheonette       1729 01:43:11,493 --> 01:43:16,293    In just one glance,    so let's just dance   1730 01:43:16,493 --> 01:43:18,893    Let's just dance   1731 01:43:19,813 --> 01:43:22,113    Let's just dance now       1732 01:43:23,363 --> 01:43:25,553    Let's dance   1733 01:43:25,753 --> 01:43:28,013    Let's just dance   1734 01:43:28,213 --> 01:43:32,063        Going to take a        little roll with you, honey   1735 01:43:32,263 --> 01:43:34,283    Let's just dance   1736 01:43:35,373 --> 01:43:37,753    A little stroll with    you, honey   1737 01:43:37,953 --> 01:43:40,463    Yeah, let's just dance      1738 01:43:41,753 --> 01:43:43,343    Just dance   1739 01:43:43,543 --> 01:43:47,433    My doctor said to    take it easy, baby   1740 01:43:47,633 --> 01:43:49,473    So let's just dance   1741 01:43:49,673 --> 01:43:53,523    My doctor said to    take it easy, baby   1742 01:43:53,723 --> 01:43:56,143    Let's dance   1743 01:43:56,343 --> 01:43:58,483       Come on, let's just dance     1744 01:43:58,813 --> 01:43:59,713    Yeah, baby   1745 01:43:59,913 --> 01:44:01,863    Let's just dance   1746 01:44:02,063 --> 01:44:03,053  All right.  1747 01:44:03,253 --> 01:44:04,443    Let's just dance   1748 01:44:04,643 --> 01:44:08,443       Come on, let's just dance     1749 01:44:10,533 --> 01:44:15,293    I can't get the kind    of love that I want   1750 01:44:15,493 --> 01:44:16,543    And I need   1751 01:44:16,743 --> 01:44:18,923    So, let's   1752 01:44:19,123 --> 01:44:23,133    Just   1753 01:44:23,333 --> 01:44:30,133    Dance   1754 01:44:32,343 --> 01:44:35,973  [audience clapping]  1755 01:44:51,823 --> 01:44:54,533  Oh, hi...   [chuckles]  1756 01:44:59,293 --> 01:45:01,543  You know, when I was a...       a kid,  1757 01:45:01,743 --> 01:45:03,653  I was probably like,   not a kid.  1758 01:45:03,853 --> 01:45:07,403      I was probably like almost           30-years-old or something.      1759 01:45:07,603 --> 01:45:09,703  Maybe I acted like a kid.      1760 01:45:09,903 --> 01:45:12,303  I... went to...  1761 01:45:12,503 --> 01:45:14,703  see Milos Forman  1762 01:45:14,903 --> 01:45:18,223  to audition for a...  1763 01:45:19,223 --> 01:45:21,313  a part of one of the two,      1764 01:45:21,513 --> 01:45:24,253  like lead guys in   Hair.  1765 01:45:24,453 --> 01:45:25,923  In the movie   Hair.  1766 01:45:26,123 --> 01:45:28,633  You know, I figured,   an actor, what is that?  1767 01:45:28,833 --> 01:45:32,433  So, I think I have   all the prerequisites,  1768 01:45:32,633 --> 01:45:34,573  completely irresponsible,      1769 01:45:35,493 --> 01:45:37,203  drunk a lot.  1770 01:45:37,743 --> 01:45:39,213  Hey, I can go on and on.  1771 01:45:39,413 --> 01:45:41,713  But...   I fit the bill.  1772 01:45:41,913 --> 01:45:43,873     So I went to see Milos and...    1773 01:45:45,503 --> 01:45:46,753    I didn't even do the audition.    1774 01:45:46,953 --> 01:45:50,363  I mean, we got along   like a house on fire.  1775 01:45:50,563 --> 01:45:54,553  I mean, "Oh God, David.   David, I love you."  1776 01:45:54,753 --> 01:45:55,893     And we were drinking schnapps    1777 01:45:56,093 --> 01:45:59,353  and we were smacking   each other on of back  1778 01:45:59,553 --> 01:46:03,173  and we were having a   gay old time, OK?  1779 01:46:03,373 --> 01:46:05,293      Oh my God, it was so great.     1780 01:46:05,493 --> 01:46:07,483  So then he calls   Twyla Tharp and he says,  1781 01:46:07,683 --> 01:46:09,383  "I got, I got the guy.  1782 01:46:09,583 --> 01:46:12,343  This is the guy.   I'm gonna send him over.  1783 01:46:12,543 --> 01:46:14,413  You see if he can dance."      1784 01:46:14,613 --> 01:46:16,183      In order to get this part,      1785 01:46:16,383 --> 01:46:21,483     the... one of the major parts        that you had to pass.  1786 01:46:21,683 --> 01:46:23,653  Milos, Twyla...  1787 01:46:23,853 --> 01:46:25,653  and Galt MacDermot,  1788 01:46:25,853 --> 01:46:27,883  who wrote the music.  1789 01:46:28,083 --> 01:46:31,013  So I went over to Twyla Tharp's.  1790 01:46:31,213 --> 01:46:32,363  I was...  1791 01:46:32,563 --> 01:46:35,683  dancing... like Nijinsky.      1792 01:46:35,883 --> 01:46:37,433  I mean, I was like...  1793 01:46:37,933 --> 01:46:39,723  like a gazelle.  1794 01:46:39,923 --> 01:46:41,123  Back and forth  1795 01:46:41,323 --> 01:46:45,003     with the whole troop back and        forth, like throwing flowers.    1796 01:46:45,203 --> 01:46:48,653  I mean imaginary flowers,       but still.  1797 01:46:48,853 --> 01:46:49,983  Twyla calls up Milos,  1798 01:46:50,183 --> 01:46:52,323     "He's, he's great.      He's a natural. He's great."     1799 01:46:54,113 --> 01:46:57,433  I'm thinking, you know,   "Hollywood, here I come."      1800 01:46:57,633 --> 01:47:00,563  I'm like picking   out real estate,  1801 01:47:00,763 --> 01:47:02,283  you know what I'm saying?      1802 01:47:03,583 --> 01:47:06,003  Next day I go to   see Galt McDermott.  1803 01:47:06,203 --> 01:47:10,053  It's up on one of those   Broadway rehearsal rooms,      1804 01:47:10,253 --> 01:47:13,533     you know, at the piano and      everybody's standing around.     1805 01:47:13,733 --> 01:47:15,763  He's got the piano   and I come in  1806 01:47:15,963 --> 01:47:20,243  and I decide to   sing the song   Hair.  1807 01:47:20,443 --> 01:47:21,973  I figured, you know,  1808 01:47:23,053 --> 01:47:24,463  I hadn't really prepared.      1809 01:47:24,663 --> 01:47:28,863     You know and...      but Galt McDermott stood up.     1810 01:47:29,063 --> 01:47:32,073  He shut the... the...   the lid of the keyboard  1811 01:47:32,273 --> 01:47:35,693  and he said,   "This guy can't sing!"  1812 01:47:37,243 --> 01:47:40,583  I was like, "Wait a   minute, wait a minute.  1813 01:47:40,783 --> 01:47:42,503  I don't, I don't act.  1814 01:47:42,703 --> 01:47:43,953  I don't dance, but I'm a singer.  1815 01:47:44,163 --> 01:47:47,963  You know, I, that's   what I do. I'm a singer."      1816 01:47:48,163 --> 01:47:50,443     I didn't get the part anyway.    1817 01:47:50,643 --> 01:47:52,633  My dreams were crushed.  1818 01:47:52,833 --> 01:47:56,013  But I only had those   dreams for three days.  1819 01:47:56,213 --> 01:48:00,223     So it wasn't like a lifetime.    1820 01:48:03,723 --> 01:48:05,643  You know, years later...  1821 01:48:05,843 --> 01:48:07,123  I saw...  1822 01:48:07,323 --> 01:48:09,923  Galt McDermott   at an awards ceremony.  1823 01:48:10,123 --> 01:48:13,403      We were both getting a       medal for something and...      1824 01:48:14,613 --> 01:48:16,653  he was in his dotage.  1825 01:48:16,853 --> 01:48:20,873  And... we shook hands   and the whole thing.  1826 01:48:21,073 --> 01:48:24,023      He didn't remember me from,          from that day.  1827 01:48:24,223 --> 01:48:27,043  But, I didn't remind   him I didn't mention it.  1828 01:48:27,243 --> 01:48:29,453    You know, I didn't mention it.    1829 01:48:31,463 --> 01:48:33,253  I'm not that kind of guy.      1830 01:48:34,923 --> 01:48:37,303  [audience laughing]  1831 01:48:37,503 --> 01:48:40,633   [Maimed Happiness   plays]      1832 01:48:47,683 --> 01:48:49,143  This is nice.  1833 01:49:10,083 --> 01:49:13,133        It's a maimed happiness      1834 01:49:13,333 --> 01:49:16,883       I keep trying to acquiesce   1835 01:49:17,083 --> 01:49:21,113    It's like a    tempestuous child   1836 01:49:21,313 --> 01:49:25,763    You play with    and humor to keep   1837 01:49:25,973 --> 01:49:29,083       Quiet as you possibly can     1838 01:49:29,283 --> 01:49:34,153    'Til finally    it goes to sleep   1839 01:49:34,353 --> 01:49:38,633   Life takes a lot of finesse     1840 01:49:38,833 --> 01:49:41,483        It's a maimed happiness      1841 01:49:49,783 --> 01:49:55,023       I keep myself to every way   1842 01:49:55,223 --> 01:49:58,963        Both refined and uncouth     1843 01:49:59,173 --> 01:50:02,993       Then maybe once in a while   1844 01:50:03,193 --> 01:50:08,683        I can be with the truth      1845 01:50:08,883 --> 01:50:10,003    Don't know   1846 01:50:10,203 --> 01:50:14,753    If there's that    much to be said   1847 01:50:14,953 --> 01:50:18,733    I thought this world    and all the time   1848 01:50:18,933 --> 01:50:24,533    That we spend   1849 01:50:25,533 --> 01:50:27,623    Still I think   1850 01:50:27,823 --> 01:50:31,043    I want to live   1851 01:50:31,243 --> 01:50:37,713       This crazy life over again   1852 01:50:41,043 --> 01:50:44,323    Yeah, I've been    to the doctor   1853 01:50:44,523 --> 01:50:48,183    He said there ain't    much he can do   1854 01:50:48,383 --> 01:50:52,603    Said you got the    human condition   1855 01:50:52,803 --> 01:50:57,213       Boy, I feel sorry for you     1856 01:50:57,413 --> 01:51:00,863        There's a sorrowful joy      1857 01:51:01,063 --> 01:51:04,913   I know it since I was a boy     1858 01:51:05,113 --> 01:51:09,773    Joyful sorrow, I guess      1859 01:51:09,963 --> 01:51:14,243        It's a maimed happiness      1860 01:51:33,643 --> 01:51:36,273  [audience clapping]  1861 01:51:40,653 --> 01:51:42,443  Beautiful!  1862 01:51:45,023 --> 01:51:46,893  You guys have been great.      1863 01:51:47,083 --> 01:51:50,283  Thank you.   Thank you.  1864 01:51:51,073 --> 01:51:52,563  [music begins]  1865 01:51:52,763 --> 01:51:58,253  My friends.  1866 01:52:01,293 --> 01:52:02,943    [interviewer] Maimed Happiness.  1867 01:52:03,143 --> 01:52:05,883   I feel like that could be        your thesis for the show.      1868 01:52:06,083 --> 01:52:09,393      Yeah. Mara, what's that...      1869 01:52:09,593 --> 01:52:11,103  Those two brothers,   they were writers,  1870 01:52:11,303 --> 01:52:12,663      but one was a philosopher.      1871 01:52:12,863 --> 01:52:14,773  [Mara] Henry James   and William James?  1872 01:52:14,973 --> 01:52:16,103     [David]   Who wrote that book?     1873 01:52:16,303 --> 01:52:17,813 [Mara]   Well, Henry James    was the novelist.  1874 01:52:18,013 --> 01:52:19,903      Right. So it was William       James was the philosopher.      1875 01:52:20,103 --> 01:52:21,883  -Right.   -[Mara] Yeah.  1876 01:52:22,083 --> 01:52:25,383   I was reading that    William James  1877 01:52:25,583 --> 01:52:29,683   Variety of Spiritual    Experiences,  1878 01:52:29,883 --> 01:52:31,283  I guess it's called.  1879 01:52:31,483 --> 01:52:35,123      At one point he used the       expression "maimed happiness."  1880 01:52:35,323 --> 01:52:40,253     "It's kind of like a maimed          happiness," whatever he said.    1881 01:52:40,453 --> 01:52:44,253  And it just stuck in   my mind, you know.  1882 01:52:44,463 --> 01:52:48,883      It's just, existence is...      1883 01:52:51,973 --> 01:52:53,263  maimed happiness.  1884 01:52:53,463 --> 01:52:54,913     [Freddy] Happy birthday, man.    1885 01:52:55,113 --> 01:52:56,933      -Freddy.       -A lot more energy tonight.     1886 01:52:57,133 --> 01:52:59,793  Yeah, I slept like   10 hours last night.  1887 01:52:59,993 --> 01:53:03,353  You are not today who you       were when you were 17.  1888 01:53:03,853 --> 01:53:05,313  So...  1889 01:53:06,363 --> 01:53:10,533      -you were this innocent...           -Hmm...  1890 01:53:10,733 --> 01:53:11,913  Listen, sorry.  1891 01:53:12,113 --> 01:53:14,103  You were spinning around  1892 01:53:14,303 --> 01:53:17,063  on the parking meter   in front of Gem Spa.  1893 01:53:17,263 --> 01:53:19,463   I was spinning around on        the other parking meter.      1894 01:53:19,663 --> 01:53:22,213 [David]   It's the   Mansion of Fun   show  1895 01:53:22,413 --> 01:53:25,963      where we do our thing and we          don't worry about the outcome,  1896 01:53:26,163 --> 01:53:30,163  because we recognize   sorrow as of the essence.      1897 01:53:30,353 --> 01:53:33,453  Because when there's   time, there's sorrow  1898 01:53:33,653 --> 01:53:36,183  and we can't rid   the world of sorrow,  1899 01:53:36,383 --> 01:53:42,063  but we can choose   to live in joy.  1900 01:53:42,933 --> 01:53:45,903  [Man] Look how beautiful.      1901 01:53:46,103 --> 01:53:47,883  [Mara] Hi, baby.  1902 01:53:48,083 --> 01:53:49,243  Long time no see.  1903 01:53:49,443 --> 01:53:50,993 [interviewer]   Like    when was the first time      1904 01:53:51,193 --> 01:53:52,303      you felt like your sadness      1905 01:53:52,503 --> 01:53:55,103  kind of connected   you to the world?  1906 01:53:55,303 --> 01:53:56,703  Oh.  1907 01:53:56,903 --> 01:53:58,643   [L'elisir d'amore:    Una furtiva lagrima       by Luciano Pavarotti plays]     1908 01:53:58,843 --> 01:54:00,743  Yeah, in 3D.  1909 01:54:01,663 --> 01:54:03,083  [sighs] Oh, man.  1910 01:54:04,003 --> 01:54:06,363      Then the ostrich comes out.     1911 01:54:06,563 --> 01:54:08,343  People think I'm   so young, right?  1912 01:54:08,543 --> 01:54:10,013     And I'm sure people say that         to you, "You're so young."  1913 01:54:10,213 --> 01:54:13,973  'Cause it took us   so long to grow up.  1914 01:54:14,173 --> 01:54:16,743  Like we hit every crack.  1915 01:54:16,943 --> 01:54:17,993  We had to be...  1916 01:54:18,193 --> 01:54:21,293  we fulfilled the   premise of becoming.  1917 01:54:21,493 --> 01:54:23,123  -That's right.   -We fulfilled it.  1918 01:54:23,323 --> 01:54:26,113  -What's the rush?   -What's the rush?  1919 01:54:26,313 --> 01:54:29,593 [David]   There's a lot of    different things that  1920 01:54:29,793 --> 01:54:32,323  you can hear or see,  1921 01:54:32,523 --> 01:54:38,783  you know, people   overcoming obstacles.  1922 01:54:39,953 --> 01:54:41,253  Surviving.  1923 01:54:41,453 --> 01:54:44,623   [L'elisir d'amore:    Una furtiva lagrima       by Luciano Pavarotti plays]     1924 01:54:49,293 --> 01:54:52,883    [band plays   Personality Crisis]  1925 01:54:53,083 --> 01:54:54,803  Come on!  1926 01:54:55,803 --> 01:54:57,973  Wow!  1927 01:54:59,843 --> 01:55:01,683    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah      1928 01:55:01,883 --> 01:55:02,813    Yeah baby no   1929 01:55:03,013 --> 01:55:04,233    Go baby yeah   1930 01:55:04,433 --> 01:55:06,233    Yeah, no, yeah, yeah       1931 01:55:06,433 --> 01:55:08,103    Wow   1932 01:55:09,853 --> 01:55:11,983  Wah-hah!  1933 01:55:13,443 --> 01:55:16,033       We can't take it this week   1934 01:55:16,233 --> 01:55:19,083    And her friends don't        want another speech   1935 01:55:19,283 --> 01:55:21,833    Hoping for a    better day to hear   1936 01:55:22,033 --> 01:55:24,103    What she's got to say       1937 01:55:24,303 --> 01:55:27,463    All about that    personality crisis   1938 01:55:27,663 --> 01:55:30,613   You got it while it was hot     1939 01:55:30,813 --> 01:55:36,183        But frustration, heartache          that's what you got   1940 01:55:36,383 --> 01:55:40,933    I gotta say about    the personality   1941 01:55:41,133 --> 01:55:42,203    Yeah   1942 01:55:42,403 --> 01:55:44,853    Yeah, yeah, yeah   1943 01:55:49,603 --> 01:55:51,363    Now you're trying    to be something   1944 01:55:51,563 --> 01:55:53,053       Now you gotta do something   1945 01:55:53,253 --> 01:55:55,653    Wanna be someone    who cow wow wows   1946 01:55:55,853 --> 01:55:57,993    But you thinking    about the time you did       1947 01:55:58,193 --> 01:56:01,333    They took every ounce       1948 01:56:01,533 --> 01:56:04,063    Well it's sure    gonna be a shame   1949 01:56:04,263 --> 01:56:06,753    When you start to    scream and shout   1950 01:56:06,953 --> 01:56:08,253    Wow   1951 01:56:08,453 --> 01:56:10,383   You contradict all the time     1952 01:56:10,583 --> 01:56:12,753   You were butterflying about     1953 01:56:12,963 --> 01:56:14,053    Butterfly   1954 01:56:14,253 --> 01:56:16,263   But that personality crisis     1955 01:56:16,463 --> 01:56:18,723   You got it while it was hot     1956 01:56:18,923 --> 01:56:21,333    It's always hard to    know when frustration       1957 01:56:21,533 --> 01:56:24,703    Heartache that's    what you got   1958 01:56:24,903 --> 01:56:28,983    It's just a song    about personality   1959 01:56:29,183 --> 01:56:30,693    We are   1960 01:56:30,893 --> 01:56:34,193  [guitar solo]  1961 01:56:52,123 --> 01:56:53,303  [applause]  1962 01:56:53,503 --> 01:56:55,513    And you're a    prima ballerina   1963 01:56:55,713 --> 01:57:00,073    On a spring afternoon       1964 01:57:00,273 --> 01:57:04,393    Turn into a wolfman    howlin' at the moon   1965 01:57:04,593 --> 01:57:06,103    Yahoooooooo   1966 01:57:06,303 --> 01:57:07,983       With a personality crisis     1967 01:57:08,183 --> 01:57:10,903    You got it while    you was hot   1968 01:57:11,103 --> 01:57:12,173  It's always hot.  1969 01:57:12,373 --> 01:57:15,463    Frustration, heartache        that's what you got   1970 01:57:15,663 --> 01:57:21,573    Oh, I'm talking about        your personality   1971 01:57:28,583 --> 01:57:30,373    Now with all the    crossin' fingers   1972 01:57:30,573 --> 01:57:32,023    Mother Nature said   1973 01:57:32,223 --> 01:57:33,543    Your mirror's    getting jammed up   1974 01:57:33,743 --> 01:57:35,173    With all your friends       1975 01:57:35,373 --> 01:57:36,553    Personality   1976 01:57:36,753 --> 01:57:38,843    It was just    starting to blend   1977 01:57:39,043 --> 01:57:40,553  It ain't like one.  1978 01:57:40,753 --> 01:57:42,413    With the personality       1979 01:57:42,613 --> 01:57:46,853    When your mind's    going to bend   1980 01:57:47,053 --> 01:57:48,413    Personality   1981 01:57:48,613 --> 01:57:50,893    Glad you know a friend,        of a friend of a friend       1982 01:57:51,093 --> 01:57:52,443    Friend of a friend   1983 01:57:52,643 --> 01:57:53,793    Personality   1984 01:57:53,993 --> 01:57:56,533    One that has    celebrities ever mend       1985 01:57:56,733 --> 01:57:58,573    Lookin' fine    on television   1986 01:57:58,773 --> 01:58:00,183    Personality crisis   1987 01:58:00,373 --> 01:58:03,953    Yeah, you got it    while it was hot   1988 01:58:04,153 --> 01:58:06,033   It's frustration, heartache     1989 01:58:06,243 --> 01:58:08,083    It's what you've got       1990 01:58:08,283 --> 01:58:09,583  All right.  1991 01:58:09,783 --> 01:58:12,563    Personality crisis   1992 01:58:12,763 --> 01:58:15,593    Please don't cry   1993 01:58:15,793 --> 01:58:17,463    A personality crisis       1994 01:58:17,663 --> 01:58:20,323    Please don't stop   1995 01:58:20,523 --> 01:58:23,513    Because you walk    with personality   1996 01:58:23,713 --> 01:58:26,893       You talk with personality     1997 01:58:27,093 --> 01:58:28,953  Yeah.  1998 01:58:29,153 --> 01:58:30,933  Yeah, baby.  1999 01:58:31,133 --> 01:58:33,293    That's what I'm talking about.    2000 01:58:33,493 --> 01:58:35,063  Personality.  2001 01:58:35,263 --> 01:58:37,023  Yeah.  2002 01:58:41,443 --> 01:58:46,033    [audience applauds and cheers]    2003 01:58:53,703 --> 01:58:59,903      You know, Plastic Bertrand           goes around saying he...  2004 01:59:00,103 --> 01:59:01,113  invented punk rock,  2005 01:59:01,313 --> 01:59:03,863  but I think that   one was really good.  2006 01:59:04,063 --> 01:59:07,183  [audience cheers]  2007 01:59:07,803 --> 01:59:10,063      You know what I always say?     2008 01:59:10,263 --> 01:59:14,143     Nothing recedes like success.    2009 01:59:14,343 --> 01:59:17,063  [laughter]  2010 01:59:19,443 --> 01:59:21,033  Am I...  2011 01:59:21,233 --> 01:59:22,903  [audience claps]  2012 01:59:29,033 --> 01:59:32,413 [plays   Heart of Gold]  2013 02:00:00,563 --> 02:00:02,153    You think I'm a whore       2014 02:00:02,353 --> 02:00:07,663       But I got a heart of gold     2015 02:00:07,863 --> 02:00:09,373       You're lockin' your doors     2016 02:00:09,573 --> 02:00:15,253    You're leavin' me    out in the cold   2017 02:00:15,453 --> 02:00:19,503    Well I've been    bought and baby   2018 02:00:19,703 --> 02:00:22,863    I've been sold and I       2019 02:00:23,063 --> 02:00:29,133    I need protection    from the cold   2020 02:00:31,383 --> 02:00:38,353    You may think    that my humanity   2021 02:00:38,553 --> 02:00:44,483    Has been the cause    of all this insanity   2022 02:00:46,073 --> 02:00:52,993    This whole damn world's        got so much uncertainty       2023 02:00:53,193 --> 02:00:59,333    I sure wish you'd    see something in me   2024 02:01:01,253 --> 02:01:02,673    You think I'm a whore       2025 02:01:02,873 --> 02:01:08,343       But I got a heart of gold     2026 02:01:08,543 --> 02:01:09,803       You're lockin' your doors     2027 02:01:10,003 --> 02:01:15,603    You're leavin' me    out in the cold   2028 02:01:15,803 --> 02:01:19,773    Yeah, I've been bought,       baby   2029 02:01:19,973 --> 02:01:22,963    I've been sold and I       2030 02:01:23,163 --> 02:01:29,233    I need protection    from the cold   2031 02:02:03,233 --> 02:02:06,563  [audience applauds]  2032 02:02:08,153 --> 02:02:11,403  [soft piano music]  2033 02:02:30,803 --> 02:02:34,593  [slow bass guitar solo]  2034 02:03:00,623 --> 02:03:02,163  [audience applauds]  2035 02:03:02,363 --> 02:03:03,603  Happy birthday, boss.  2036 02:03:03,803 --> 02:03:07,463  [audience cheers]  2037 02:03:09,543 --> 02:03:11,253  And many more.  2038 02:03:16,673 --> 02:03:17,953  Oh, baby.  2039 02:03:18,153 --> 02:03:23,353  [band continues playing    Heart of Gold]  2040 02:03:48,753 --> 02:03:54,963    You may think    that my humanity   2041 02:03:55,673 --> 02:04:01,293    Was the cause of    all this insanity   2042 02:04:01,493 --> 02:04:02,753  Hm-hmm.  2043 02:04:02,953 --> 02:04:09,653    This whole damn world's        got so much uncertainty       2044 02:04:09,853 --> 02:04:15,983    I sure wish you'd    see something in me   2045 02:04:17,743 --> 02:04:19,533    You think I'm a whore       2046 02:04:19,733 --> 02:04:24,703       But I got a heart of gold     2047 02:04:24,903 --> 02:04:26,503       You're lockin' your doors     2048 02:04:26,703 --> 02:04:31,213    You're leavin' me    out in the cold   2049 02:04:32,503 --> 02:04:35,763       I've been bought and baby     2050 02:04:35,963 --> 02:04:39,123       Yeah, I've been sold and I   2051 02:04:39,313 --> 02:04:44,103    I need protection    from the cold   2052 02:04:44,303 --> 02:04:46,543  Yeah, man.  2053 02:04:46,743 --> 02:04:51,863    I need protection    from the cold   2054 02:04:52,063 --> 02:04:54,533  All right, baby.  2055 02:04:54,733 --> 02:04:57,453    I need protection   2056 02:04:57,653 --> 02:05:04,743    From the cold   2057 02:05:12,043 --> 02:07:20,003  [audience applauds]