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Hello there. Hi.
I'm doing some investigation into a historic murder
of a young woman called Janine Downes in 1991.
Does that face, that name mean anything to you?
She was a sex worker, but her body was found some 13 miles away
in Shifnal in a lay-by. No.
I've heard the name, but I don't recognise the face.
This is the lay-by where Janine was found?
Yeah. Off the A464 near Shifnal in Shropshire.
When was the body found? And by who?
A couple found her body at nine o'clock in the morning
of Saturday, 2nd February, 1991.
Although it became clear that she had been murdered
sometime between midnight and four o'clock that morning.
Do we know exactly where the body was found? Yeah.
There's a very good police photograph from the time.
She was semi-naked.
She had been strangled, sexually assaulted and beaten.
The body hadn't been concealed. It hadn't been buried.
It hadn't been hidden.
And were there any suspects for the murder?
There have been a number of people who've been arrested over the years,
but no-one has ever been charged with Janine's murder.
I know you teach in Birmingham.
Is that how you found out about Janine's case?
Yeah. And as you know,
I teach and research and write about violent crime,
especially about murder and serial murder.
She was a sex worker, and, of course,
they are one of the most at-risk groups of being attacked.
And I suppose I would still like to see if we could get justice
for Janine and for her surviving family.
And what do we know about her? Well, actually, precious little.
We know that she was 22 years old.
She was a single mum of three children.
Her youngest child was only six months old
when she was murdered.
Was she connected to this area?
No. She sold sexual services in the All Saints area of Wolverhampton.
So we're struggling for information on this occasion.
We're going to need to divide up our efforts, I think, on this one.
I can talk to contacts I've got in the West Midlands area.
Well, I can go to the local archives and do some research
on Janine's case and try and get a fuller picture
about what she was like as a person.
I've got in touch with some contacts from the West Midlands.
Did you find anything?
So one of the articles I found in the archives
is from a 2011 edition,
and it's an interview that Janine's 72-year-old father gave.
It's heartbreaking, really.
It says that Janine's mother died when Janine was only nine years old,
and her dad says that Janine only did what she did
to make ends meet to feed her three young children.
Gosh, that's so sad, isn't it?
Listen, I think I'm having some luck with tracking down
a friend of Janine's from the time.
Is there anything else in the article?
She also wrote a letter to her dad,
and this is what the letter says.
"Dear Dad, how are you?
"You probably don't want to know me any more, but still.
"I know you don't agree with what I've been doing,
"only I've had money problems. I don't do it any more, Dad.
"I've realised how stupid I've been,
"and I know how ashamed you all must be.
"I haven't been to visit you because I've heard
"that you're very angry with me. I can't blame you, though.
"I'm always thinking of you, Dad. I love you a lot.
"Anyway, I'm going to sign off now. "Your loving daughter, Janine."
And her dad never got to speak to her. So sad.
I found a witness - apparently one of the last people
to see Janine alive - and she is prepared to talk.
But she's scared, and she's moved away from the area,
and she doesn't want to be identified on camera.
But she's agreed that we can pick her up just down the road.
Janine had a small build, hadn't she?
Yes, just five foot tall and only 8st, apparently.
So she might not have been very difficult to overpower. No.
Maybe her friend Mandy can shed some light on the night of the murder.
Mandy, thank you for talking to us.
That's all right.
Take a left up here.
This is the route that me and Janine used to make on a night-time.
It brings back a lot of memories.
So you knew Janine. Can you tell us what she was like?
She was lovely. She was funny,
and she weren't scared of anything.
That's why I felt safe with her. How did you meet her?
It was in a hostel. She was already there,
and I was put there because I had nowhere to live,
and we just got talking. We'd just laugh at anything.
She was my best friend.
And how old were you? 16 or 17.
We used to go out to work about eight o'clock on the night.
We was just used to go and work
and take all the money back to the pimps.
We're coming up to it. I'm sweating. Are you all right?
Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah.
This is the red-light area. Mm-hm.
It was always this industrial estate.
Every corner that you'd go, you'd see girls and women there.
This is the Harp pub. The last place I was with Janine.
Can you explain what happened on the night that she disappears?
We was working. We'd had a few customers.
Janine would go with a client,
I'd stay there waiting for her to come back,
and when she come back, I'd get a client.
So we thought it was safe.
It was near this door, by the bollards.
A dark blue car turned up. It was a long car,
you know like the old Volvo? He's put the window down.
I'd never seen him before.
Me and Janine was stood side by side.
I asked him if he wanted business. He went, "I don't want you."
He went, "I want her." Why do you think he wanted Janine?
I think it was because Janine was smaller than me.
She was tiny. I suppose it was a childlike frame, wasn't it?
For some of them.
What sort of time was this? Between nine and half past nine.
He's pulled up there
and then she's gone off down this way, I think.
Were you there expecting her to come back here? Yeah.
I never went with another punter.
I just waited there for her to come back.
I waited for her till about half 11, and she never come back.
I was the last person to see Janine.
She wasn't seen after that night. She was took from here.
How do you feel being back outside the Harp pub?
Lump in my throat.
Painful just looking at it, because it haunts me all the time.
It really does. And I do feel really guilty.
But if I could just have an hour with her, like, and talk to her.
What would you say? That I miss her, and I'm sorry.
Why are you sorry? Because it wasn't me.
I didn't have children then. She did.
But I do miss her. She was my leaning post. Yeah.
And the police did say whoever did it, they was angry at her.
She didn't stand a chance, because they battered her.
She didn't deserve that.
She was murdered with so much violence.
But who would want to do that?
Mils. Come and have a listen to this judge's ruling from 2023.
Listen to what she says.
In December 1993, you murdered a woman by manually strangling her.
In March 1994, you murdered another female,
strangling her with a cord from her hooded top.
You had a history of killing two women
and inflicting very serious violence
and sexual violence on a third woman.
You still pose a significant risk
to members of the public of serious harm.
So this relates to a historic rape committed on a young boy.
Now, that offender is called Alun Kyte.
But mention was made of two women that he murders.
Now those two women were Samo Paull and Tracey Turner.
1993, 1994,
so a couple of years after the murder of Janine Downes.
Samo and Tracey were sex workers in the Midlands,
and prior to Kyte's conviction,
there was a lot of media speculation that sex workers
in the West Midlands were being targeted by
a serial killer called the Midlands Ripper.
Oh, I found articles about
the Midlands Ripper in the archives. Here.
Ah. And this is Alun Kyte. He's a differentiated offender,
so he's convicted of the murders of two women, Samo and Tracey,
and was also being given a sentence for the rape of a boy.
But what I also noticed was that the MO
of the murders of the two women
was not dissimilar to what happened to Janine.
That's absolutely right.
They had all been strangled
miles from the place where they were dumped.
And indeed, in the 1990s, the NCIS,
the National Criminal Intelligence Services,
grouped together those two murders with the murder of Janine Downes.
So he is definitely someone that we should be looking into.
I've tracked down a former detective inspector
who worked on the Alun Kyte case.
Perhaps he can clarify things for us.
There you go, Mick.
So how did you get involved in the Alun Kyte case?
I knew of the two murders Alun Kyte was later convicted of,
which was Samo Paull in December '93,
Tracey Turner in March '94. Tracey had been raped.
The DNA sample was taken,
but it didn't get us anywhere at the time, which was a frustration.
Then in December '97,
Alun Kyte raped another girl in Weston-super-Mare.
Avon and Somerset police got there very quickly
and they arrested him as he tried to escape,
and that gave us the opportunity to get a DNA hit,
which was a link to Tracey Turner's murder.
Yeah. There were so many similarities
in terms of abduction, about where the bodies were left.
This is only 13, 14 years on since Peter Sutcliffe, you know,
who killed so many women.
And the concern was, we don't know
if there's another Peter Sutcliffe in this country.
You've met Kyte, you've watched interviews.
What was he like? He's inadequate in many ways.
He's a small guy. He's arrogant. He puffs his chest out.
He thinks he's a bigger man than he is.
On top of that, he's manipulative. He's a misogynist. He's violent.
He doesn't accept any responsibility for what he does.
He's got to be the most dangerous level of
the people that we deal with. What did you discern from the MO
that Kyte uses in both murders?
There are distinct similarities between the two murders.
He strangles by ligature but he also attacks with a knife.
He also steals.
He would take trophies from the victims
and will actually drive them across the whole Midlands
and leave them abandoned and dumped.
So Samo and Tracey's bodies were deposited
in the Leicestershire area.
I'm interested in the Janine Downes case.
She went missing in the Wolverhampton area.
Does that rule Kyte out? No. He's completely transient.
He would move from place to place using the motorway network.
He knew it very well. Janine Downes - physically slight,
so like Samo Paull. Strangled, stripped naked.
Does the MO fit, Mick? My memory of Janine Downes
was exactly as you described -
abducted, found in a different location.
Strangulation by ligature from the rear.
That's exactly what Tracey had.
The theft of clothing, starts to get more interesting.
So there's a lot of similarities. We're still looking at her murder.
It's unsolved. Would that imply that
there just really wasn't any DNA at the crime scene?
I would assume they've gone back
and looked at every single exhibit that's been recovered,
and they've looked at the forensic opportunities.
If there's nothing to go on, you can't go on it.
And so, in the case of Janine,
I can only assume that there is nothing available.
Mick, could Alun Kyte have murdered Janine Downes?
Without question. If you look at the nature of Janine's death,
there are huge similarities. Question is, do we know?
We don't. Because you need evidence. You need fact.
But if your question to me is could he have, yes, of course he could.
Mick Creedon's still convinced that Alun Kyte
is a really good suspect in Janine's murder,
but there just isn't any evidence that can connect him.
Would it be worth showing a photo of Kyte to Mandy to see
if she might recognise him
as the man who picked Janine up in the blue car? Good idea.
Hi, Mandy. Thanks for seeing me again.
And I'm sorry it's so late, but I have one question to ask.
Is this the man that was driving the long blue car
that Janine got into that night back in 1991?
Take your time. Take your time.
No. No, not at all.
That's not the man that pulled up that night.
You're sure? Yeah. The police have asked me that.
I didn't get a good look at him, but that's not him.
OK, thanks.
Mandy is sure that Alun Kyte
wasn't the man who picked Janine up that night.
So where do we go from here?
I think we need to speak to Graham Hill,
ex senior detective who's led murder investigations.
Let's see what advice he might have.
Mandy didn't recognise the photograph
that I showed her of Alun Kyte
as being the man that's driving the blue car
on the night that Janine disappears.
So does that rule Kyte out as far as you're concerned?
Well, I don't think it rules him out. The interesting thing is
that the pathologist had Janine's time of death
somewhere between midnight and 4am.
We've got Mandy saying that she saw Janine drive off
with a man that she spoke to briefly at around 9.30,
and that she then left that vicinity at around 11.30.
Yeah. So it's conceivable that Janine came back to
that particular area and was then picked up by Kyte.
So that still leaves a window of opportunity
for Janine to have been picked up by him or someone else.
Yeah. And that's consistent with what the pathologist tells us.
In what way? Are we to believe that he picked her up at 9.30,
drove around for 2.5 hours before he killed her?
Mm-hm? That doesn't seem feasible.
It's more likely he would have picked her up
and then killed her quite quickly.
Because how would he control her within the vehicle?
So would Kyte still be a person of interest to you?
Oh, absolutely. This guy's got it all going on
in terms of an offender. You've got to go back in time
and look at what the National Criminal Intelligence Service NCIS
did in the early '90s.
They linked the murders of Tracey Turner
and Samo Paull with Janine's murder,
and they would have done that using a very strong linking criteria.
What would examples of linking criteria be?
Body deposition site, method of abduction,
how the person was killed.
But there doesn't seem to be any physical evidence
to link Alun Kyte with Janine Downes.
He was never charged and convicted of that murder.
There's this assumption that every murder scene has DNA,
has forensic, has fibres, has all of the CSI factors going on,
and sometimes that's simply not the case.
Sometimes it's to do with how the body is left,
the weather conditions, how good the forensic examination is.
And sometimes you just don't have that evidence.
So we can't rule him out.
But what more can we do in terms of taking the case forward?
The bottom line for a murder investigation
is that you've got to explore all investigative opportunities
and all avenues or lines of inquiry.
I think what you need to do is park up Alun Kyte for the moment,
and go back and find out more about what was going on
for those sex workers in the Wolverhampton area
at around about the time that Janine went missing and was killed.
Get some context around Janine's world
and the circumstances in which she went missing.
Information is key here.
I know attitudes have changed since the 1990s,
but it has been hard to get people to talk to us.
It has. And Mandy, I thought,
was so brave and courageous to talk to us,
but she was still fearful and scared.
So it's going to be difficult to find people to talk to us.
I've managed to find a former police officer
who worked on the streets of Wolverhampton
at the same time Janine did.
Perhaps he knew Janine and can tell us more about her.
Paul, what exactly does a police officer
working on a vice unit do?
We're there for various reasons.
The first really is to keep the streets clear
so if people are walking up and down the streets,
they're not going to be harassed by kerb-crawlers.
We dealt with girls who were being forced to work as prostitutes.
There was a place in Wolverhampton called the Rollerdrome
where a lot of girls were picked up.
They were bought presents, taken to nice places,
and then there was a reward to be paid back,
and that was to work the street.
We had to try and save those girls,
prevent them being hurt and get them off the streets.
What was the red-light area like back then?
It was a large area. It was fairly rough.
There were girls out almost every night of the week.
Almost every girl had got a pimp.
Well, if we look at 1991, we made arrests
of 216 different girls. Gosh.
And one of those girls that was selling sexual services,
that did get arrested on the streets, was Janine Downes.
What was she like? She was a quiet girl who wanted to keep to herself.
When she smiled, she'd got a lovely smile.
There's a picture here now on the table, and I see Janine smiling.
And when she smiled, it was a lovely smile,
but she didn't want me to know much about her.
That could have been because
that was Janine's way of getting through life.
She didn't want me to know who was running her, who her pimp was.
Were you surprised when Janine was found murdered?
I actually identified Janine's body.
We identified her on the mortuary slab at the hospital in Telford.
Gosh. How did you feel about that? It's never gone away,
I've got to be fair.
I was perhaps one of the last people to see her before the postmortem.
It never goes away. It lives with you.
I went with two of my women officers.
We were taken by West Mercia officer when we got there
into the mortuary at the hospital.
A towel or a blanket was pulled back from her face
down to the top of her neck.
And we looked at it and straight away all three of us says,
"It's Janine Downes."
When you see something like that, it was quite a shock.
And the drive back, it was a drive in silence
as we drove back to Wolverhampton.
We were all upset. She was one of the girls,
as I believed, our job was to look after,
and we hadn't looked after her.
Somebody, whoever it was had... Had killed her.
And even to this day, I look back on it now and think,
"Well, did I do my job properly?"
With your experience, if a body is left
in the circumstances in which Janine's body was found,
what does that imply about the person who killed her?
She's way, way from the vice area.
As the girls want to try and maximise their income,
they're not going to go to Shifnal,
which is going to take them 40 minutes each way.
So they want to go to areas of Wolverhampton
because they can be back in the area in five minutes.
Janine wouldn't gladly have gone there to go with a punter.
So perhaps the doors were locked, she was taken there,
but then again, it could be a pimp
who has perhaps had a domestic argument with her.
Whatever - she's not earning enough money,
given a good hiding, gone too far
and taken the body and dumped it out there.
It could be a pimp. It could be a punter.
It could be anybody. I just hope that one day,
the person who's done it is convicted and goes to prison.
What did Paul Snape say? Well, he was interesting.
He thought it unlikely Janine would have willingly gone with
a punter so far away from the red-light district,
when she could earn more money by staying closer.
He did mention the possibility of her pimp,
and that's an avenue we haven't yet explored.
I've found someone on social media who said she was working
in the Wolverhampton red-light district
around the time Janine was murdered. I'm going to reach out to her.
Joanne, would you be happy to share your experiences
with me and David, and anything that you could tell us about Janine?
I've reached a bit of a dead end and I need some help.
Can you do a bit of digging? Sure, yeah.
OK. Give us a call and let me know how you get on.
Great. Um, I will send you a location by text,
if that's OK.
Bye.
Any news? Any developments? Yes. She's agreed to meet us,
but she wants to remain anonymous.
She says she can tell us more about what was happening
in the red-light district at the time.
Joanne, thank you for sharing your story with us.
When did you go out onto the streets?
When did that take place?
Did you know Janine?
What led you to start working on the streets
in Wolverhampton's red-light district?
How old were you?
Do you feel that you got groomed into what happened to you?
So the man you first met was part of a gang?
At what point, Joanne,
did this man become physically violent towards you?
Did anyone ever try to snatch you?
What happened?
Did you take this to the police?
So you were attacked very close to where Janine was last seen alive?
And were lucky to have survived that attack.
That seems to me like
a powerful piece of evidence for no-one to have listened to.
Do you feel that Janine's murder
was investigated as fully as it could have been?
What did you think about what Joanne told us?
I thought it was really powerful.
I was quite shocked by the vulnerability
of the girls working the streets.
And she told us about that horrific attack
by a rival pimp just months after Janine was murdered.
Yeah. She couldn't name the person that attacked her.
But if the police had acted at the time,
he perhaps could have been identified,
and so it's a missed opportunity.
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Hi, Kate. What have you got for us?
I've just spoken to someone who knew Janine well.
She worked with her in the red-light district.
She doesn't want to be identified,
but has told me I can share with you what she said.
How did they know her? She met her when she was a teenager.
Both of them had been in care.
Then they started working the streets around the same time.
What did she say Janine was like?
She said that she was tough, she was loud, she was bubbly.
But she also said she had a sensitive side.
She said sometimes you had to be tough on the streets,
but she had a sensitive side like they all did.
Did you get a sense of some of the pimps
that were working in the red-light area?
Was there any information of that kind?
She said the pimps that controlled Janine,
were based in this high rise in Wolverhampton,
She did say that she had an idea of who might have killed Janine.
Oh! And who was that?
Well, his name's a local criminal called Pippy Perry.
Pippy Perry? Pippy Perry. That's right.
And he was linked to pimps with Wolverhampton in the early '90s.
Now, I've spoken to Joanne
and she says he is not the man that attacked her.
So Perry is another potential suspect.
And why does she think he might be responsible for Janine's murder?
She said he was violent. He bullied the girls. He'd beat them up.
He'd drag them down alleyways near the Harp Inn and steal their money,
which would get them in trouble with their pimp.
She said he was in the area the night Janine disappeared.
Did he have criminal convictions?
He's got convictions for violence against women.
He's got convictions for knife-point robbery.
Before 1991, he was convicted of the kidnapping
of two sex workers from Birmingham at knife-point.
Was he ever a person of interest to the police?
Well, I'm not sure. That's something we might have to find out.
He did have an interest in Janine, apparently.
He was seen a lot of the time with her,
but he definitely wasn't her pimp.
And what's happened to him now?
Well, he has passed away. He died in 2017.
And did she ever report any of these concerns to the police?
She did. She said that one of the appeals,
on an anniversary of Janine's murder,
she did get in touch with the police.
And of course, she said, "Look, I've got no proof,"
but she used to see Pippy around Janine a lot,
and that he operated in that area and was violent to the girls.
She told police this. Apparently they came back to her
and said that they don't think that her gut feeling,
I guess, had much weight.
But she doesn't know whether they checked him out for an alibi.
OK, Kate, thanks so much. That's really helpful. Thank you.
That's a completely new person. Yeah.
This guy, Pippy Perry,
he does seem to have previous for abducting, hurting sex workers,
and he clearly knew Janine.
So maybe we've got to find out more about Pippy Perry.
How would we do that?
Well, the first thing that strikes me is that there would be
a number of journalists who would be covering the Wolverhampton area.
I know somebody that might be able to flesh the story out
that Kate's been given. I think. I'll approach him.
Hello.
Thanks for agreeing to meet with me.
What can you tell me about Pippy Perry?
Steven Perry mixed with a certain crowd.
I met him a few times.
He was a pretty, you know, nondescript young guy, really.
He knew people who were of violence,
but certainly wasn't a name that you would say
someone to be scared of or someone dangerous,
though he mixed in those circles.
I've got a picture of him here that I've kind of blown up
if you haven't seen one before,
but I certainly got the impression that he was more a follower,
rather than being the initiator or some kind of leader.
I'm getting the idea you don't think he carried out this murder.
He was convicted, though, of kidnapping sex workers,
and we've heard he was brutal towards them.
There is some violence in his background,
but not likely to be a suspect in Janine Downes's murder?
I doubt it.
Amardeep, you were born and bred in Wolverhampton.
When Janine was murdered, what was the word in the street
that you were able to pick up as a journalist?
It was big news in Wolverhampton. The prostitutes in Wolverhampton
weren't viewed badly, you know, they were local girls.
They were honest girls in a lot of ways, and they were our girls.
These are Wolverhampton girls.
It really struck a nerve with people in Wolverhampton.
To this day. The name Janine Downes
and the horrific circumstances around it,
people still talk about it. And it certainly changed
the whole red-light scene in Wolverhampton.
In what way? It broke it down, really.
It was the beginning of the end.
Wolverhampton in the early '90s really was a centre
for prostitution and also a centre for drug distribution.
The hard drugs were appearing on the scene, gangs were forming.
Wolverhampton's drug tentacles reached as far as Aberdeen
and further north, and that really was
a phenomenon unique to Wolverhampton.
The prostitution scene in Wolverhampton was well established,
well organised. Some of the girls started going up to Aberdeen
to sell themselves, I suppose, to the oil workers.
They'd heard that there's oil workers there, they've got money.
Then their pimps realised, "Well, hang on -
"while you're going up there,
"why don't you take some heroin up there and start selling that?"
And was this a well-known phenomenon at the time?
Oh, yeah. I mean, it was given a name - the Aberdeen Express
or the Aberdeen Run. And do you think Janine
could have been caught up in this Aberdeen Express?
It's very likely. In Wolverhampton the pimps were families
as opposed to an individual,
and these families would use these girls as commodities
to get to another pimp. If you had a rival pimp,
you wouldn't touch the pimp, but you'd do something to the girls.
Do we know who was pimping Janine?
There's various names been bandied about,
and chances are she may have had a few pimps.
Wolverhampton in the early '90s was very much a Yardie stronghold,
but they were essentially Jamaican criminals,
very hard and very quick to use the gun.
And in Wolverhampton they kind of had a headquarters,
you could say. Mm-hm. Yardies had a reputation
for being easily turned by British police.
Some had specially been brought over by the police,
and so even though the Yardies
had this really vicious reputation as ruthless killers,
a lot of them were talking to the police.
What's your best guess about what happened to Janine Downes?
Who murdered her?
From the evidence I've seen and the way she was killed,
I don't think it was a punter-gone-wrong type scenario.
It's very much an execution-style killing.
She'd been taken out to a specific spot.
When people would be tortured or taken away for a beating,
they'd be taken away from Wolverhampton,
and a lot of bodies are found
in the lay-bys near Shrewsbury, near Shipley. You know,
all the kind of countrified areas around Wolverhampton.
If we were talking about rivalry between pimps,
it may well be some pimps from outside of town.
I think it was more of a message to her pimps than it was
to her family or to anybody else.
If Janine had been murdered
by somebody who was also a police informant... Yeah.
...how seriously would the police have pursued
that murder investigation? Not very.
And this has been documented. There has been cases
where Jamaican informants in the '80s, early '90s
were specifically brought from Jamaica to England
to inform on their own communities and then went on to kill.
And it was a cover-up. There is still that feeling
in Wolverhampton that such a high-profile murder,
so many years on, so many appeals, that nothing's happened?
But certainly whoever killed her, you know, is still out there.
We've spoken to some really brave women who've been prepared to talk
to us because they want to help find Janine's killer.
So putting together what they've told us
and everything that we've discovered,
where do you think we are with Janine's murder?
I think some things have become clearer in terms of
the context in which Janine is murdered, in the early 1990s.
The first thing is simply
the vulnerability of the women and girls being exploited,
and secondly, the violence that permeated their lives.
I always thought that the sex worker
was most at risk from punters,
but we heard story after story from women about the violence
that they also could experience from pimps or indeed rival pimps.
And who seem to have been trafficked up and down the country as well.
Wolverhampton really emerges from the stories that we've been told
as a kind of Wild West, a beginning of county lines.
Turf wars and police informants. The Aberdeen Express,
where women were being made to go up to various parts of the country
where they would sell sexual services and drugs.
And what about the two people that we have names for,
Alun Kyte and Pippy Perry?
Well, Pippy Perry emerges from that violent underworld
that we've been describing.
He's got convictions for kidnap of sex workers, but crucially,
he's never been convicted of murder.
My own sense of the criminology is that we should rule Pippy Perry out.
He was seen in the area that night,
but we don't have any evidence that shows he was capable of murder.
But that doesn't mean to say that Janine
couldn't have been kidnapped and killed by a rival pimp.
Well, Joanne, the man who attacked her,
could he be a possible suspect?
He really is a possible suspect.
There's someone who's come forward with information
that she's attacked and lucky to survive
just months after Janine had been murdered.
But it seems at the time, Joanne wasn't listened to.
We've no way of identifying
who that rival pimp was and whether he went on to kill.
What about Alun Kyte?
You cannot rule out Alun Kite simply because there's no DNA
that links him to Janine's murder.
Alun Kite allegedly boasted in prison
of having killed more women than he's been convicted of.
So Alun Kyte remains, for me, very much a prime suspect.
And we mustn't forget that the person that Mandy said
that she spoke to in the blue car
wasn't necessarily the person who murdered Janine.
There is at least four hours unaccounted for
in relation to Janine. So, yeah, we can't rule out
that Janine leaves with the man in the blue car,
but comes back afterwards and is picked up by someone else.
So do you think there's still hope
that Janine's murder could be solved?
Yeah, I do. Attitudes have changed, you know.
In the 1990s, if sex workers had been raped
or if they had been beaten up,
that was seen almost as if it was a form of occupational hazard.
And didn't seem to be believed, either.
No, the word wasn't taken.
Their evidence wasn't given the credence
it should have been given.
Women have come forward and told us things
which haven't previously been in the public domain.
So you think there's still hope that there could be others
who come forward with more information?
Yes. And it's still perfectly possible
to get Janine and her family justice.
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