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[Michael Arntfield] This
ambush style execution...
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- [gunshot] - ...suggests,
number one, it was personal.
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[Det. Robert Milby] He was a
young man who was trying to do
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the right thing by his family.
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They were making
a life together.
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[officer] Sheriff's office.
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[Det. Milby] He is
reaching out to people to see
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if they will keep that
weapon for his girlfriend,
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so now we believe he has more
to do with this homicide
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that he's letting on.
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[Christine Callanan]
Custody battles over children
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bring out the absolute worst
in people.
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Is this a warning sign
that leads towards violence?
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[Arntfield] A conspiracy
of two is still a conspiracy
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regardless of who pulls
the trigger.
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[narrator]
Every day in North America,
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dozens of people are murdered.
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The key to solving the
toughest of these homicides
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lies in the final 24 hours
of the victim's life.
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To crack the case,
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detectives must reconstruct
that critical timeline.
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The minutes and hours
containing evidence
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that can help unlock the mystery
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and catch the killer.
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[narrator] Sodus, New York,
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a charming lakeside town
in serene oasis,
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on the shoreline
of Lake Ontario.
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Sodus is a pretty
small suburban community.
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It's nestled between the cities
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of Rochester and Syracuse,
New York
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and within the village limits,
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there's right around 2,000
is the population.
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Everybody, uh, pretty much
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knows everyone
within the community.
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[It. Joseph Croft] The crime
rate in, uh, Wayne County
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is typically a lot lower
than you would see
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in Rochester or Syracuse.
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We don't get too many
major felonies.
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[narrator]
One October afternoon,
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that calming environment
is thrown into chaos
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when Sodus Police
get a frantic phone call
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from someone claiming
to have witnessed shots
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being fired
at the neighbor's house.
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Right around 2:00 PM
on October 22nd, 2018,
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a 911 call came in.
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Someone had shot someone
in their driveway
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and there were
multiple gunshots reported.
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At that moment we immediately
started to respond to the scene.
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I was only several houses up
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so the response time
was very quick.
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I would say less than a minute.
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[Callanan]
The investigators saw a male
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deceased under a truck
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and then in the vehicle
that was parked,
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they observed a female
that was deceased
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in the driver seat.
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[Dep. Matthew Carr] I saw that
there was a toddler in the vehicle,
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I'm glad to see that
he was live in the back,
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holding the chicken nuggets,
at the time,
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I didn't know if he was,
uh, a nonverbal autistic,
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I just thought he was in shock
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and we took him to a safer area.
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[narrator]
The victims are identified
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as Josh Niles
and Amber Washburn,
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a young couple and devoted
parents to three children.
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[Det. Milby] Josh Niles
was 28-years-old,
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he and his girlfriend Amber,
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had recently moved
into the neighborhood,
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he was a young man
who was trying to do
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the right thing by his family,
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he had started a new business
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and was a good father.
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Josh had two other children
from a previous relationship,
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they were nine
and seven-years-old.
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Amber was a devoted mother,
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she doted on her son Josh Jr.
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Whom she of course
had with Josh,
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and they were making
a life together.
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[narrator] Heading up
the investigation
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into the brutal double homicide
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of Josh Niles and Amber Washburn
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is Detective Lieutenant
Robert Milby
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aided by Lieutenant Joseph Croft
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of the Wayne County
Sheriff's Office.
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[Det. Milby] When we're
responding to a crime scene like this,
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the fact that it was in close
proximity to the local school,
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one of our first
responsibilities
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is to make sure that
school is locked down,
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the other thing that
we have to do
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is gather resources
in order to start a manhunt.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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[Det. Milby] SWAT team
members were brought in,
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K9s were brought in,
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we had a coordinated effort
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to attempt to find the shooter.
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[Callanan]
There's panic in the area.
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[officer] Sheriff's office.
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[Callanan] Facebook posts
started going up
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about hearing shots fired,
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there was a complete shutdown
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like you would see in a movie
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when there's a manhunt going on.
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[narrator] With the hunt
for the killer underway,
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detectives speak to
Tiffany Fair,
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the next door neighbor who claims
to have witnessed the shooting.
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[Det. Milby] Tiffany Fair
shared a driveway
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with Josh and Amber.
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And when the shots
first rang out,
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Tiffany was in the kitchen,
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she was looking out
the window and she saw
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Josh talking with an
individual in the driveway,
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Josh Niles
got a relaxed posture,
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he was leaning up against
his pickup truck.
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She went about preparing
a meal for her child
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and had seen Amber
pull into the driveway
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which was normal
for that time of day.
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And that's when
the shots rang out.
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[gunshots]
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[Det. Milby] She saw Josh
grab his chest,
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saw that Amber tried
to leave the scene
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- when she was shot.
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[Det. Milby] At that time,
several more shots rang out.
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Tiffany describes the shooter
as a white male
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who was wearing
a dark colored hoodie,
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while we're still not sure
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who it was
that committed this crime
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we know Josh and Amber's
time of death
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which is at 2:00 PM.
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[Dep. Carr]
Josh was laying under
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the rear bed area of the truck,
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we could see that there was,
uh, several shots,
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uh, into the dirt,
into the back of the truck,
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and, uh, into Josh.
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[Det. Milby] He had suffered
several bullet wounds
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to his front and his back,
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through eyewitness accounts and
through the evidence that we had on scene,
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it was determined
that Josh was trying
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to escape his shooter.
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Originally he had been shot
in the chest
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and when he started to go
to the ground
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he observed
his girlfriend get shot,
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at that time he started
to crawl away
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and the shooter
immediately returned to Josh
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and shot several more times.
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[Det. Milby] There were quite
a bit of shell casings
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that were found
both on the driveway
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and in the grass
behind the truck,
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due to identifying marks,
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we're immediately able
to determine
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that those shell casings
came from a nine millimeter.
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[narrator] In their
analysis of the scene,
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detectives notice
a stark difference
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between the injuries
to each victim.
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[Det. Milby]
It's readily apparent that
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this was not a random shooting,
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whoever did shoot Josh Niles
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was very determined that
they were going to kill him.
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[It. Croft] You could tell that
Josh was clearly the target,
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he was shot multiple times
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where Amber was only shot once.
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[narrator] To find Josh
and Amber's killer,
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detectives will need
to piece together
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the couple's final 24 hours.
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The fact that Josh
is gunned down
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in broad daylight
in his own driveway
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in a... in a quiet
suburban neighborhood,
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that in itself is a huge lead
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in terms of possible motives,
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this ambush style execution
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suggests, number one,
it was personal,
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probably preplanned
but also consider
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the brashness and brazenness,
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you're dealing with somebody
with nothing to lose,
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that they don't care
about being seen.
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[narrator] As the coordinated
manhunt continues,
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investigators get their first
break in the case.
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[Det. Milby] Some detectives were
assigned to canvas the neighborhood
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and ask each and every neighbor
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if they had any
surveillance cameras,
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we were able to gather
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through some of those
surveillance systems,
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video footage of who we
believed to be the shooter.
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We're able to see the person
that matched the description
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at 1:57 PM walking towards
Josh and Amber's residence,
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just minutes before
the crime took place
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but we were not able
to see the face
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of who we believed
to be the shooter.
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Shortly after we started
that K9 track,
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we discovered the ski mask
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that had been freshly dropped
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in the direction that the
shooter had been seen running.
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[officer] We got a black mask,
approximately 30 yards
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east of North Street
and Elmwood.
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[policewoman] Copy.
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We believe
that that could've been,
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uh, a piece of evidence.
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[Callanan] Ultimately,
the K9 track ended up
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falling off
in a public parking lot.
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So at that point it was believed
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that where the K9 stopped,
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there must've been a vehicle
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and he was able to get away
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prior to the perimeter
being set-up.
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[dog whimpering]
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[Det. Milby] We believe that the
shooter conducted surveillance
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to get a layout of the land
and look for escape routes.
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[Callanan] At this point,
the community was panicked,
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panicked that this kind
of crime could happen there,
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panicked that they didn't
know where the shooter was,
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and panicked that the
community might not be safe.
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[narrator] With a violent
killer on the loose,
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Detective Milby questions
Josh Niles' parents
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to learn more about who
might've wanted to harm him
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and his partner, Amber Washburn.
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[Det. Milby] And police were
always looking for a motive,
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and obviously someone had
intent to kill Josh Niles
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with the amount of gunshots
and from the evidence
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that we had found on the scene.
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So we knew that somebody
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had a beef with Josh Niles.
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When we first contacted
the family,
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we asked if there was
any enemies
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or anybody who would want
to harm Josh and Amber
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and we couldn't get
any immediate answers
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as to who would wanna do that
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but we discovered
a normal daily routine
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for Josh and Amber would be
that Josh would drop off
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the two older children
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at school right around 9:00 AM,
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and then later
on during the day,
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Amber would pick up Josh Jr.
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In Belgium, Newark and then
bring him home right around 2:00.
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One of our detectives
actually wound up calling
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the family court
just on a hunch to see
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whether or not there was
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any pending family court matters
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that concerned Josh or Amber
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and we discovered
that there was.
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Josh had been in
a family court custody battle
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with his ex, Charlene Childers,
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the mother of two
of his children
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and that Charlene
had actually lost custody
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of the children to Josh.
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[Callanan] Josh and Charlene's
relationship was young love,
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they met, fell in love quickly,
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and found out they were pregnant
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with their first child
pretty early on
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in their relationship.
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Josh's family was always
helping as much as they could
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with the children,
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trying to keep Josh and Charlene
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as a coherent family unit,
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but it became pretty clear
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towards the end
of the relationship
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that there was a toxic element
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to them being together.
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[Det. Milby] At one point
Josh's mom had told me
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that she didn't believe
that Josh and Charlene
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were very good for each other.
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There had been several calls
to 911 to their residence,
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both by Charlene and by Josh.
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So it was a pretty
rocky relationship
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by a couple of people
who had had children young.
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After Josh and Charlene
dissolved their relationship,
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Charlene moved to Texas
where her mother resided
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and there was shared custody.
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[narrator] As Detective Milby
reviews the evidence,
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he receives a phone call
from Josh's ex-wife,
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Charlene Childers.
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[Det. Milby] What I was
met with in that phone call
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was a very demure
Southern belle,
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she seemed very nice,
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only concerned
about her children,
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she had seen the house
where the incident occurred
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on social media
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and knew that that was Josh
and Amber's home
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and that's where
her children lived.
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Charlene said that she was
going to be leaving Texas
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to take custody of her children
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and I asked her if she knew
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who might've committed
this crime
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against the father
of her children,
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she denied any knowledge,
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I had asked her
when she did get into town
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if I can meet with her.
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When she was
on the phone with me,
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I believe that she was in Texas,
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I believe she was on her way
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to take control of the children.
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We were able to verify
that through investigation
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that she was in fact at work
during the time of the crime.
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[narrator] With Charlene's
alibi placing her in Texas,
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investigators
press her for details
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about her history with Josh,
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hoping it will reveal clues
about his murder.
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[Callanan]
Charlene made it very clear
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that Josh was abusive to her
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both verbally and physically,
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and that was ultimately
the reason
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she ended the relationship
and got out of Sodus.
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Initially when Charlene
and Josh break up,
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she is the primary caregiver
to the children
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and they reside
in Texas with her.
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In May 2018, Charlene's
husband Timothy Dean
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was brought up on
abuse charges of his child.
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Charlene had elected
to stand by her man's side
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and as a result of that,
lost custody of her children.
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Her husband Tim Dean also
lost custody of his child
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and Josh immediately
picked up his children
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and brought them home,
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and that's when
the custody battle ensued.
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[Callanan] Josh was granted temporary
primary custody of his two children.
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So when that decision
is handed down,
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Charlene indicates that she's
going to divorce Timothy Dean
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in the hopes that that would
be looked favorably upon
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by the court to get the
children back to her in Texas.
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[narrator] Investigators dig deeper
into Josh and Charlene's troubled past,
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hoping to find clues
about the murder.
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[Callanan]
The investigators looked back
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into the history arrest
that they had made
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between the couple.
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It was very apparent
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that it was
a abusive relationship,
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but that the police calls
and reports
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had both Josh
as a suspect and a victim
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and Charlene
as the suspect and victim.
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[Keira Stockdale] When we
learned about Charlene
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and we learned about her history
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and being involved
in relationships
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that are conflictual or
involving domestic violence,
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one in three women are the
victims of domestic violence,
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so this may not be
as rare as folks think.
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That being said, I wonder,
is this a warning sign
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that when these patterns
start to cycle
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that this leads
towards violence?
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And I think in this case,
high conflict situations
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such as custody or abuse
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could precipitate violence.
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[Callanan] The investigators have a
person of interest in Charlene Childers,
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but at the time of the murder
she's on video at her job in Texas.
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But based on learning
her history,
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the issue with the custody
of the children,
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the husband she was separated
from, Timothy Dean,
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they still had reason to believe
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that she was involved
in some way.
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But they knew ultimately
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she could not have been
the shooter.
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[narrator] While Charlene makes
the drive from Texas to New York,
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she asks police
to release her children
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to a man named Casey Miller
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who lives in the New York area.
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[Det. Milby] Casey Miller is a
prior boyfriend of Charlene Childers.
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Back when she was 14,
they had had a relationship.
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Casey was 19.
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He was convicted
of having sex with a minor
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for that relationship.
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And he is on the sex
offender registry.
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She named Casey Miller
as her boyfriend
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to come and pick up
her children.
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That kind of, uh, you know,
set off a couple of flags
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with us once we looked
into Casey Miller's background
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and his relationship
with Charlene.
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Knowing what we knew
about the custody battle
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between Josh and Charlene,
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we begin to focus
our efforts on Casey Miller,
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because now we had
a motive to explore.
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[Callanan] His relationship
with Charlene, her motive,
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and their apparent rekindling
made him a suspect
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with motive and opportunity
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to kill both Josh and Amber.
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[Det. Milby] We started
to look into Casey Miller
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and his physical characteristics
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are right about the same
of the suspect
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that was described to us
as the shooter.
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[narrator] In the brutal
double homicide
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of Josh Niles
and Amber Washburn,
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detectives are zeroing in
on their first real suspect,
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convicted sex offender,
Casey Miller.
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[Callanan] Initially,
the working theory
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once Charlene Childers
is ruled out as the shooter
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is that Casey Miller
could have been the gunman.
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[Det. Milby] Casey
was cooperative with us.
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He was quite confident
in himself
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and he didn't appear
to be anybody
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who had anything to cover up.
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Casey told us
that he didn't have
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anything to do with the crime
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and he didn't know
anything about the crime.
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Through his job
at a local pizza shop,
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he was actually out on delivery
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at the time
that the crime occurred.
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We were satisfied at that time
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that Casey had nothing to do
with the actual shooting.
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[narrator] Casey leaves
the police station
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having been cleared
as the shooter,
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but 24 hours later,
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he's back on their radar.
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[Det. Milby] Shortly after
an interview with him,
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it became known to us
through some witnesses
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that Casey was trying
to get somebody
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to hold on to
a nine millimeter handgun
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for his girlfriend, Charlene.
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And a nine millimeter handgun
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was used to kill Josh and Amber.
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Casey told us
that Charlene had forgotten
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to leave that at home
when she came to New York
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to pick up her kids.
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And so he was looking
for somebody
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to keep that handgun safe
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because she did not have
a license to carry
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that weapon in New York.
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[narrator] Detectives
tracked down the weapon
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and send it to the ballistics
lab to be tested.
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[It. Croft] The evidence
tech test-fired the gun
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to make sure it wasn't
a match to the, uh,
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shell casings
that were recovered
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from the crime scene.
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[Det. Milby] And we were
able to determine that
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that was not the weapon
that was used
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to shoot Josh and Amber.
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While we're not able to tie
Casey directly to the crime,
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we kind of wanna keep
tabs on him
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just in case we need
to re-interview him again.
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But at that moment,
we still don't have a way
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to tie Charlene to the crime.
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[Callanan] We have a feeling
she's involved,
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but we're not able
to prove it yet
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or put it together.
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[Det. Milby] We certainly know
that there's motive
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for Charlene
to get her children back
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to have someone help her
get custody of her kids back.
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So then we start to focus on
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who else Charlene
has a relationship with,
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and that would be
with her husband, Tim Dean.
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Charlene kept saying over
and over again
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that she was no longer
part of Tim Dean's life.
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They were getting a divorce.
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They're no longer live together.
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But we were still
very interested
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in where Tim Dean was
at the time of the crime.
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[narrator] Because Tim Dean
is living in Texas,
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investigators reached out to
the Texas Rangers for assistance,
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checking into his background.
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[Det. Milby] The marital residence
between Tim and Charlene
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was in a very small town
called Sunray,
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which is in the panhandle
of Texas.
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I believe the population
is right around 2,000.
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Their police department
is not very big.
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It's a three-man
police department.
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And there's not
a lot going on in Sunray.
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[It. Croft] Tim Dean
was a chief of police
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in Sunray Police Department,
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a normal every day guy.
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But as we dig in with the
law enforcement from Texas
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and get more
information from them,
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we're really finding out more of
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the he's not the typical
police officer
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that you would think
that you know.
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[Det. Milby] We actually got
a hold of a Texas Ranger
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who was able to tell us
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that he had personal dealings
with Tim Dean.
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There was an investigation
into a child abuse allegation
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where he was videotaped
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abusing his very young daughter.
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And as a result
to that investigation,
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Tim Dean was arrested
and he lost his job
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with the Sunray
Police Department.
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The fact that Amber is shot
once in the head
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with reasonable accuracy
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00:21:02,661 --> 00:21:04,562
through a car window
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speaks to a certain level
of experience
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and comfort with handguns.
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And the fact that Tim
is a former chief of police
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and has been training
and carrying a gun
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for his entire adult life,
I mean,
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these two things seemed
to now be...
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obviously coalescing.
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[Det. Milby] Through our
discussions with the Texas Rangers,
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we found out that the videotape
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that was taken of the incident
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that he was accused
of abusing his child
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was actually taken
by Charlene Childers.
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She had sent it out
to two of her friends.
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One of those friends
turned it into authorities.
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And what was interesting is that
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there was a message
that accompanied the video
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and that message had said
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that she was going to take
Tim Dean down.
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Custody battles over children
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bring out the absolute worst
in people.
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The ultimate love
that a person has
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is for their children
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and if they believe
that the courts
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aren't going to help them,
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they ultimately are willing
based on that love
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to do whatever they have to do
to get their children back.
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[Det. Milby]
Tim Dean was the reason
505
00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:14,498
Charlene Childers had lost
custody of her children.
506
00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:16,467
It became pretty apparent
to us that
507
00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:20,338
not only that Charlene
have motive to kill Josh,
508
00:22:20,372 --> 00:22:21,806
but Tim had motive
509
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,442
to try to win those children
back for her.
510
00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:28,446
[intense music playing]
511
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:29,613
[narrator] In the murder
of young parents,
512
00:22:29,648 --> 00:22:32,249
Josh Niles and Amber Washburn,
513
00:22:32,284 --> 00:22:34,518
investigators are working
a new theory
514
00:22:34,553 --> 00:22:36,721
that the killer could be
a former chief of police
515
00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:40,257
in Sunray, Texas named Tim Dean.
516
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:43,728
[Det. Milby] We started
to formulate the idea that
517
00:22:43,762 --> 00:22:45,663
Tim Dean was trying to do
the chivalrous thing
518
00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:48,532
by his wife
who supposedly wanted
519
00:22:48,567 --> 00:22:49,633
nothing else to do
with them anymore.
520
00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:52,870
Maybe he felt responsible
for them breaking up
521
00:22:52,904 --> 00:22:55,606
and maybe he was going to try
to do whatever it took
522
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,708
to get her kids back to her,
523
00:22:57,743 --> 00:23:01,312
because that was the most
important thing in her life.
524
00:23:01,346 --> 00:23:04,882
[narrator] With a potential
motive established for Tim Dean,
525
00:23:04,916 --> 00:23:06,717
investigators worked to uncover
526
00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:09,653
how he might've committed
the murders.
527
00:23:09,688 --> 00:23:11,822
The difficult part
of the investigation
528
00:23:11,857 --> 00:23:16,527
was how would Tim Dean get
from Texas to New York
529
00:23:16,561 --> 00:23:18,329
committing the murders.
530
00:23:18,363 --> 00:23:19,697
[Det. Milby]
We're able to find out
531
00:23:19,731 --> 00:23:22,666
that Tim Dean
was not in Sunray, Texas
532
00:23:22,701 --> 00:23:25,636
at the time of the homicide.
533
00:23:25,670 --> 00:23:27,638
He had actually been involved
534
00:23:27,672 --> 00:23:29,340
in a motor vehicle accident
535
00:23:29,374 --> 00:23:31,709
on October 20th, 2018,
536
00:23:31,743 --> 00:23:35,312
two days before the murder
in the state of Kansas.
537
00:23:35,347 --> 00:23:36,614
[narrator]
Detectives learned that
538
00:23:36,648 --> 00:23:39,283
after his car accident
in Kansas,
539
00:23:39,317 --> 00:23:42,420
Tim Dean called 911 for help.
540
00:23:42,454 --> 00:23:44,455
[officer speaking]
541
00:23:44,489 --> 00:23:48,993
[Tim speaking]
542
00:23:51,863 --> 00:23:54,498
[Det. Milby] Tim Dean was
trying to perform a U-turn
543
00:23:54,533 --> 00:23:57,234
and wrecked the car
in a culvert.
544
00:23:57,269 --> 00:24:01,672
[officer speaking]
545
00:24:01,706 --> 00:24:03,474
[Tim speaking]
546
00:24:03,508 --> 00:24:06,444
[officer speaking]
547
00:24:06,478 --> 00:24:07,711
[Tim speaking]
548
00:24:07,746 --> 00:24:09,480
[Det. Milby] As a result
of the accident,
549
00:24:09,514 --> 00:24:11,515
the car is no longer operable.
550
00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:14,852
He has to get a ride with a
tow truck operators into town.
551
00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:18,589
So he started to unload
some of his baggage
552
00:24:18,623 --> 00:24:20,758
and one of those items
is a tote.
553
00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:24,261
And Tim describes the items
that are in the tote
554
00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:25,529
as weapons, ammunition,
555
00:24:25,564 --> 00:24:27,698
a sidearm, and a shotgun
556
00:24:27,732 --> 00:24:31,502
that he's going to take back
with him to the hotel.
557
00:24:31,536 --> 00:24:34,605
Deputy Nicolet
doesn't really ask much about
558
00:24:34,639 --> 00:24:37,174
the weaponry or the shotgun
559
00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:39,009
because it's Kansas
560
00:24:39,044 --> 00:24:40,544
and it's not out of the ordinary
561
00:24:40,579 --> 00:24:42,980
for people to have those items
with them.
562
00:24:45,283 --> 00:24:47,451
[officer speaking]
563
00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:48,452
[Tim speaking]
564
00:24:48,487 --> 00:24:50,187
[officer speaking]
565
00:24:50,222 --> 00:24:54,191
[Tim speaking]
566
00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:55,192
[officer speaking]
567
00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:56,594
[Tim speaking]
568
00:24:56,628 --> 00:25:00,130
[officer speaking]
569
00:25:00,165 --> 00:25:03,934
[Tim speaking]
570
00:25:03,969 --> 00:25:05,703
Once we find out that Tim Dean
had wrecked the car
571
00:25:05,737 --> 00:25:08,739
that he was five hours away
from Sunray, Texas
572
00:25:08,773 --> 00:25:11,475
that he was en route
to New York,
573
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:12,910
we got excited.
574
00:25:12,944 --> 00:25:16,247
He became a primary person
of interest for us
575
00:25:16,281 --> 00:25:17,815
as a suspect.
576
00:25:17,849 --> 00:25:21,385
During that interview that
Deputy Nicola has with Tim Dean,
577
00:25:21,419 --> 00:25:23,587
he discovers that
578
00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,323
Tim Dean is not named
on the rental agreement.
579
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,392
[officer speaking]
580
00:25:28,426 --> 00:25:29,593
[Tim speaking]
581
00:25:29,628 --> 00:25:31,428
[officer speaking]
582
00:25:31,463 --> 00:25:35,199
[Tim speaking]
583
00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:36,734
[officer speaking]
584
00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:37,635
[Tim speaking]
585
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:39,570
[narrator]
For Wayne County detectives,
586
00:25:39,604 --> 00:25:42,506
the account of Tim Dean's
rental car accident
587
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:46,710
changes the course of their
homicide investigation.
588
00:25:46,745 --> 00:25:48,646
[Det. Milby] We found out
that Tim Dean
589
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,215
tried to rent another car,
590
00:25:51,249 --> 00:25:52,683
but he wasn't able to do so.
591
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,518
He only carried cash with him.
592
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:57,688
But on October 21st
in about 1:32 PM,
593
00:25:57,722 --> 00:26:00,824
Tim Dean is able to rent
a second vehicle
594
00:26:00,859 --> 00:26:02,526
and we're able to find out
595
00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,662
what the plate number
is on that vehicle
596
00:26:04,696 --> 00:26:06,830
that Tim Dean started
the rest of his journey in.
597
00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:10,267
We put that plate
in a plate reader system
598
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:11,669
to see if it comes up anywhere
599
00:26:11,703 --> 00:26:14,572
and we were able to actually
get a match on that plate
600
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:16,807
as it entered New York State.
601
00:26:16,841 --> 00:26:20,411
So on the night of the 21st
at 10:52 PM,
602
00:26:20,445 --> 00:26:22,346
we find that Tim Dean
actually enters
603
00:26:22,380 --> 00:26:23,581
Chautauqua County, New York.
604
00:26:23,615 --> 00:26:26,417
And the morning of the 22nd,
605
00:26:26,451 --> 00:26:29,520
the morning of the murders
at 5:25 AM,
606
00:26:29,554 --> 00:26:31,355
we got a second hit
607
00:26:31,389 --> 00:26:33,624
as he comes up
New York State Route 390
608
00:26:33,658 --> 00:26:35,926
out of Dansville, New York.
609
00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:39,597
On October 22nd
at about 3:30 PM,
610
00:26:39,631 --> 00:26:42,266
we also had a license
plate reader hit
611
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,936
on the same vehicle
headed south out of New York
612
00:26:45,971 --> 00:26:48,472
on Interstate Route 390
in Dansville
613
00:26:48,506 --> 00:26:52,009
which is about 90 minutes
away from Sodus, New York.
614
00:26:53,578 --> 00:26:55,679
So we're also able
to ascertain that
615
00:26:55,714 --> 00:26:59,750
about an hour and a half
after the homicide at 3:30 PM,
616
00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:03,487
that vehicle that Tim Dean
was renting left the area
617
00:27:03,521 --> 00:27:06,991
by way of the same license
plate reader in Dansville.
618
00:27:07,025 --> 00:27:10,361
[narrator] With confirmation
that Tim Dean's rental car
619
00:27:10,395 --> 00:27:11,462
traveled into New York
620
00:27:11,496 --> 00:27:13,530
around the time of the murders,
621
00:27:13,565 --> 00:27:15,666
Detective Milby travels to Texas
622
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:18,936
to find more evidence of a
possible criminal conspiracy
623
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:23,207
between Tim Dean
and Charlene Childers.
624
00:27:23,241 --> 00:27:24,475
[Det. Milby] So five of us
625
00:27:24,509 --> 00:27:25,643
pile into a couple of vehicles
626
00:27:25,677 --> 00:27:29,680
and we make the same drive
that Tim Dean did to Texas
627
00:27:29,714 --> 00:27:31,749
where we're met
by the local authorities
628
00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:33,517
that are ready to conduct
a search warrant
629
00:27:33,551 --> 00:27:35,019
on Tim Dean's residence.
630
00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:37,888
[officer] Hands up.
Anybody in here?
631
00:27:37,922 --> 00:27:40,591
[Det. Milby] We discovered a
few items of interest to us.
632
00:27:40,625 --> 00:27:43,827
Tim has several handguns
in the residence.
633
00:27:43,862 --> 00:27:46,630
Some things discovered
were actually with him
634
00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:48,532
in the vehicle during
his drive to New York,
635
00:27:48,566 --> 00:27:50,668
including the tote
that we believe was used
636
00:27:50,702 --> 00:27:52,736
to carry the weapons in.
637
00:27:52,771 --> 00:27:55,339
We learned that things
were kind of going downhill
638
00:27:55,373 --> 00:27:56,774
for Tim Dean.
639
00:27:56,808 --> 00:27:58,609
He was having trouble
making bills.
640
00:27:58,643 --> 00:28:00,644
He wasn't able
to make his mortgage.
641
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,446
And he'd started selling
642
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,282
a lot of his personal
possessions.
643
00:28:06,518 --> 00:28:09,586
So we've got a very, very
intricate picture of a man
644
00:28:09,621 --> 00:28:12,456
who's very self-righteous.
645
00:28:12,490 --> 00:28:15,325
He's a man of small stature
646
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,660
but he carries a heavy hand
647
00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:18,796
underneath his own roof,
648
00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:20,497
especially
with the investigations
649
00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:21,832
into the child abuse.
650
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:24,768
He's desperate.
He's careless. He's emotional.
651
00:28:24,803 --> 00:28:28,305
And frankly, Tim Dean at that
point in his life is a mess.
652
00:28:29,441 --> 00:28:31,341
[narrator] Investigators
request a copy
653
00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:32,876
of Tim's cellphone records
654
00:28:32,911 --> 00:28:35,679
to confirm his location
near Josh and Amber's house
655
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,681
at the time of the murders.
656
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,483
[Det. Milby] Tim Dean's
cellphone hit off of a tower
657
00:28:39,517 --> 00:28:40,918
outside of St. Louis, Missouri
658
00:28:40,952 --> 00:28:44,788
at about 10:15 AM
on the 21st of October.
659
00:28:44,823 --> 00:28:46,724
Cellphone records tell us
the phone was put back on
660
00:28:46,758 --> 00:28:49,359
at around 3:30 PM on the 23rd,
661
00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:51,762
and that was outside
of Missouri.
662
00:28:51,796 --> 00:28:55,599
And he was back home
in Sunray by 11:27 PM
663
00:28:55,633 --> 00:28:57,701
on the 23rd of October.
664
00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,370
We're able to ascertain
that around 2:00 AM
665
00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,272
when the phone
is turned back on,
666
00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:05,375
Tim Dean has 36 missed calls.
667
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:06,510
These phone records
indicate to us,
668
00:29:06,544 --> 00:29:08,345
they actually screened to us
669
00:29:08,379 --> 00:29:09,713
that he did something
intentionally
670
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:14,752
to try to mask his whereabouts
for that 28 hours.
671
00:29:14,786 --> 00:29:16,754
[narrator] When Tim's
phone records come in,
672
00:29:16,788 --> 00:29:19,523
they reveal
a surprising new detail.
673
00:29:19,557 --> 00:29:23,427
There are two phone calls
between him and Charlene.
674
00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:25,796
One, during his accident
in Kansas
675
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:28,398
and another after the murders.
676
00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:29,933
[Det. Milby]
Two of these phone calls
677
00:29:29,968 --> 00:29:31,502
that are pretty
interesting to us,
678
00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:33,470
the first call,
Tim Dean makes to Charlene
679
00:29:33,505 --> 00:29:35,439
when he has his accident
in Kansas,
680
00:29:35,473 --> 00:29:38,575
and then when he turns
the cell phone back on
681
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,477
after the homicide occurs,
682
00:29:40,512 --> 00:29:43,380
his first phone call
is to Charlene Childers.
683
00:29:43,414 --> 00:29:44,715
This is interesting to us
684
00:29:44,749 --> 00:29:47,284
because through our interview
with Charlene,
685
00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:48,685
she first tells us that
686
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,321
she no longer wants
anything to do with Tim Dean
687
00:29:51,356 --> 00:29:52,489
and that they're no longer
a couple.
688
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:56,393
[It. Croft] Not many people
have a 16-minute conversation
689
00:29:56,427 --> 00:29:57,728
with a soon-to-be ex-wife,
690
00:29:57,762 --> 00:29:59,763
so it was shooting some holes
in her story,
691
00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:03,700
as far as her getting
a divorce from Tim Dean.
692
00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:07,104
[Det. Milby] We now know that
Charlene is lying to us deliberately.
693
00:30:07,138 --> 00:30:08,772
There was actually still
a full-blown relationship
694
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,775
going on
between Tim and Charlene.
695
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:15,045
So now we believe
she has more to do
696
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,381
with this homicide
than she's letting on.
697
00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:20,450
[Callanan] She came up to Kansas
698
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:22,986
to help him
get the second vehicle
699
00:30:23,021 --> 00:30:26,790
and this contact showed that
she was assisting him
700
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:29,293
trying to get from Texas
to Kansas
701
00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:31,628
and from Kansas to New York.
702
00:30:32,897 --> 00:30:35,866
[narrator] With inconsistencies
in Charlene's testimony,
703
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:39,570
Detective Milby zeroes in
on a suspicious detail
704
00:30:39,604 --> 00:30:42,639
from their initial contact.
705
00:30:42,674 --> 00:30:44,708
[Det. Milby] Charlene had said
that she had seen
706
00:30:44,742 --> 00:30:48,378
a post that was on Facebook
of a house
707
00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:49,847
with crime scene tape
in front of it
708
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:52,749
and that it was a picture
of Josh's residence,
709
00:30:52,784 --> 00:30:56,086
and she knew that Josh
was a victim.
710
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,622
At that point, no victims
have been identified
711
00:30:58,656 --> 00:31:00,757
as being involved
in the shooting.
712
00:31:00,792 --> 00:31:03,760
The news camera footage
was actually showing
713
00:31:03,795 --> 00:31:06,396
a neighbor's house
across the street
714
00:31:06,431 --> 00:31:09,399
and not the location
of the homicides.
715
00:31:09,434 --> 00:31:11,335
The only way she would've known
716
00:31:11,369 --> 00:31:12,769
that Josh and Amber
were the victim
717
00:31:12,804 --> 00:31:16,740
was because she had something
to do with the crime.
718
00:31:16,774 --> 00:31:18,775
[narrator] Based on the
multiple lies from Charlene,
719
00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:21,845
and the new evidence
tying her to Tim's actions,
720
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,915
detectives believed she could
be the true mastermind
721
00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:29,052
who orchestrated the murder
of Josh and Amber.
722
00:31:29,087 --> 00:31:32,956
[Callanan] Timothy Dean
wasn't doing this by himself,
723
00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:36,260
it became very clear
that she was behind
724
00:31:36,294 --> 00:31:37,694
not only the crime,
725
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:39,796
but exactly how this crime
was going to be committed
726
00:31:39,831 --> 00:31:42,866
and what the plan was for him.
727
00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:45,068
[Det. Milby] She was willing
to do whatever it took
728
00:31:45,103 --> 00:31:47,404
in order to make sure
she got her own way.
729
00:31:51,943 --> 00:31:53,443
[narrator] In the horrific
double homicide
730
00:31:53,478 --> 00:31:55,846
of Josh Niles
and Amber Washburn,
731
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,582
detectives have refocused
their investigation
732
00:31:58,616 --> 00:32:00,684
on proving a criminal conspiracy
733
00:32:00,718 --> 00:32:04,187
between Tim Dean
and Charlene Childers.
734
00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,557
Motive is the reason
behind the crime,
735
00:32:07,592 --> 00:32:10,260
conspiracy is acting
in concert with others
736
00:32:10,295 --> 00:32:12,129
to commit that crime.
737
00:32:12,163 --> 00:32:15,499
[Arntfield] If Charlene and Tim
were in fact working together
738
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:18,435
in a plot to travel out
of state, kill Josh,
739
00:32:18,469 --> 00:32:21,538
so Charlene could reclaim
the children
740
00:32:21,572 --> 00:32:23,740
regardless
of who pulls the trigger,
741
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:26,310
they are both mutually culpable.
742
00:32:27,578 --> 00:32:29,313
[narrator] To build their case
743
00:32:29,347 --> 00:32:30,781
against both Tim and Charlene.
744
00:32:30,815 --> 00:32:33,550
Detective Milby moves on
to question the person
745
00:32:33,584 --> 00:32:37,321
who Tim says facilitated his
first car rental,
746
00:32:37,355 --> 00:32:38,622
Bron Bohlar.
747
00:32:38,656 --> 00:32:40,257
[detective speaking]
748
00:32:40,291 --> 00:32:42,225
[detective speaking]
749
00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:43,360
[Bron speaking]
750
00:32:43,394 --> 00:32:44,628
[detective speaking]
751
00:32:44,662 --> 00:32:46,363
[Det. Milby] Bron Bohlar
is a police officer
752
00:32:46,397 --> 00:32:49,733
in Sunray that idolized Tim Dean
753
00:32:49,767 --> 00:32:52,602
and became friends
with Tim and Charlene
754
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:55,372
when they lived in Sunray.
755
00:32:55,406 --> 00:32:56,606
[It. Croft] Every profession,
756
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:58,342
but especially law enforcement,
757
00:32:58,376 --> 00:33:00,444
you have leaders
and you have followers
758
00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:03,480
and I think Bron is a follower.
759
00:33:03,514 --> 00:33:07,584
He would do anything
that Tim asked him to do.
760
00:33:07,618 --> 00:33:09,619
Bron had to be convinced
during that interview
761
00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:10,721
that he needed to tell the truth
762
00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,522
and is to what his role was.
763
00:33:12,557 --> 00:33:16,560
[detective speaking]
764
00:33:16,594 --> 00:33:17,694
[Bron speaking]
765
00:33:17,729 --> 00:33:19,396
[Callanan] The investigators
appeal to him,
766
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:21,431
not only as a member
of law enforcement,
767
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:24,201
but also as a father
with children,
768
00:33:24,235 --> 00:33:25,535
and then shortly after
769
00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:29,306
Bron Bohlar provided
the true story.
770
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:30,507
[Bron speaking]
771
00:33:30,541 --> 00:33:31,608
[detective speaking]
772
00:33:31,642 --> 00:33:32,609
[Bron speaking]
773
00:33:32,643 --> 00:33:34,277
[detective speaking]
774
00:33:34,312 --> 00:33:35,245
[Bron speaking]
775
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,581
[detective speaking]
776
00:33:37,615 --> 00:33:42,119
[Bron speaking]
777
00:33:44,555 --> 00:33:46,556
[detective] Okay.
778
00:33:46,591 --> 00:33:48,592
[Bron speaking]
779
00:33:48,626 --> 00:33:50,338
[detective speaking]
780
00:33:50,362 --> 00:33:51,361
[Bron speaking]
781
00:33:51,396 --> 00:33:53,497
[Det. Milby]
Bron Bohlar knew full well
782
00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:56,299
that there was going to be
a homicide in New York
783
00:33:56,334 --> 00:33:58,668
and he agreed to do this
784
00:33:58,703 --> 00:34:02,205
while he was in uniform
as a Sunray police officer.
785
00:34:03,174 --> 00:34:04,841
Through our interview
with Bron Bohlar,
786
00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:07,611
we were able to determine
that Charlene was actually
787
00:34:07,645 --> 00:34:09,713
the mastermind
of this whole thing.
788
00:34:09,747 --> 00:34:13,417
With her setting up
and actually taking Bron
789
00:34:13,451 --> 00:34:15,752
to rent the first vehicle
790
00:34:15,787 --> 00:34:18,488
and through her taking
the time and effort
791
00:34:18,523 --> 00:34:20,590
to drive all the way
five hours from home
792
00:34:20,625 --> 00:34:24,061
to make sure that Tim Dean
could complete his trip.
793
00:34:24,095 --> 00:34:26,530
Painted a picture to us
of a very determined woman
794
00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:28,799
that was using
quite a few different pawns
795
00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:32,369
in her scheme
to get her children back,
796
00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:34,371
and she was gonna do this
at any cost.
797
00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:37,374
[narrator] With Bron's testimony
798
00:34:37,408 --> 00:34:39,276
that Charlene and Tim conspired
799
00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:41,645
to have Josh and Amber killed,
800
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,548
police enact dual operations
across the country
801
00:34:44,582 --> 00:34:46,383
to arrest Tim in Texas
802
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:49,486
and Charlene in New York.
803
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,354
[Det. Milby] The reason
that we wanted to handle
804
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:52,789
Tim and Charlene
at the same time
805
00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:55,358
was so that they could not
communicate with each other
806
00:34:55,393 --> 00:34:58,128
to try to fabricate a story.
807
00:34:59,497 --> 00:35:01,498
[Callanan] Charlene Childers
was taken into custody
808
00:35:01,532 --> 00:35:03,700
on weapons charges in New York.
809
00:35:03,734 --> 00:35:07,471
A SWAT team surrounded
Charlene and Tim's home
810
00:35:07,505 --> 00:35:09,806
in Sunray, Texas,
breached the door
811
00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:14,144
and are able to successfully
take Tim Dean into custody.
812
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:17,380
[Det. Milby]
During initial contact
813
00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:19,483
with law enforcement in Texas,
814
00:35:19,517 --> 00:35:21,618
Tim is pretty smug.
815
00:35:21,652 --> 00:35:23,253
Tim isn't gonna talk.
816
00:35:23,287 --> 00:35:27,657
[Tim speaking]
817
00:35:27,692 --> 00:35:29,593
[Det. Milby] Eventually, he
makes some sort of admission
818
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:32,562
that he came to New York
with all that weaponry
819
00:35:32,597 --> 00:35:35,198
to commit suicide.
820
00:35:35,233 --> 00:35:41,204
[Tim speaking] [bleep]
821
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,842
[Tim speaking]
822
00:35:45,877 --> 00:35:47,244
[Det. Milby]
The average person only needs
823
00:35:47,278 --> 00:35:49,412
one weapon to commit suicide.
824
00:35:49,447 --> 00:35:51,248
That was a lie.
825
00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:55,519
[detective speaking]
826
00:35:55,553 --> 00:36:02,025
[detective speaking]
827
00:36:05,296 --> 00:36:07,764
[detective speaking]
828
00:36:07,798 --> 00:36:10,400
[Det. Milby] We tried
to appeal to his senses
829
00:36:10,434 --> 00:36:14,004
and he was completely shut down.
830
00:36:14,038 --> 00:36:16,573
[narrator] Meanwhile,
back in New York,
831
00:36:16,607 --> 00:36:19,743
detectives questioned
Charlene Childers.
832
00:36:19,777 --> 00:36:21,611
[Det. Milby] We were
relatively certain that
833
00:36:21,646 --> 00:36:24,714
Tim Dean was the one
who pulled the trigger.
834
00:36:24,749 --> 00:36:26,783
The hurdle that we
had to get over was
835
00:36:26,817 --> 00:36:30,954
connecting Charlene
as that puppet master.
836
00:36:31,789 --> 00:36:33,456
We circle the wagons
a little bit
837
00:36:33,491 --> 00:36:35,592
and just to see what comes out.
838
00:36:35,626 --> 00:36:41,531
[Christine speaking]
839
00:36:41,566 --> 00:36:43,266
[detective] Mmm-hmm.
840
00:36:43,301 --> 00:36:46,937
[Christine speaking]
841
00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:48,638
[Det. Milby] During that
interview, we focused completely
842
00:36:48,673 --> 00:36:52,676
on Tim in coming to learn
the person that Charlene is,
843
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:54,444
it's not that far of a stretch
844
00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:56,213
to think that
she's gonna throw him
845
00:36:56,247 --> 00:36:57,614
completely under the bus,
846
00:36:57,648 --> 00:36:59,716
which she does.
847
00:36:59,750 --> 00:37:03,453
- [Charlene speaking]
- [detective speaking]
848
00:37:03,487 --> 00:37:09,192
[Charlene speaking]
849
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:10,527
[detective speaking]
850
00:37:10,561 --> 00:37:12,128
[Det. Milby]
Wanting to hurt Josh
851
00:37:12,163 --> 00:37:14,364
because of the allegations
that she's made in the past
852
00:37:14,398 --> 00:37:16,099
about being abused by Josh.
853
00:37:16,133 --> 00:37:18,435
So she's trying to paint
the picture of a motive
854
00:37:18,469 --> 00:37:21,504
that Tim has
to commit this crime.
855
00:37:21,539 --> 00:37:25,508
She says this is completely
Tim's idea to get this done.
856
00:37:25,543 --> 00:37:29,145
[Charlene speaking]
857
00:37:37,888 --> 00:37:41,291
[Det. Milby]
Charlene is very charismatic,
858
00:37:41,325 --> 00:37:42,592
manipulative woman.
859
00:37:42,627 --> 00:37:45,395
And she got the impression that
860
00:37:45,429 --> 00:37:47,631
if she repeated a lie
more than once
861
00:37:47,665 --> 00:37:49,633
that people would believe it.
862
00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:52,402
She didn't realize
she was dealing with
863
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:53,403
seasoned detectives.
864
00:37:54,739 --> 00:37:58,742
And finally she tells us that
she had said at one point,
865
00:37:58,776 --> 00:38:02,445
it would just be better off
if Josh was dead.
866
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,583
[Charlene speaking] [bleep]
867
00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:07,651
[detective] Mmm-hmm.
868
00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:11,354
[Charlene speaking] [bleep]
869
00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:12,922
[Det. Milby] And eventually
870
00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:15,258
we get a confession
from Charlene.
871
00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:21,164
[detective speaking]
872
00:38:21,198 --> 00:38:24,334
[Charlene speaking]
873
00:38:24,368 --> 00:38:25,502
[detective speaking]
874
00:38:25,536 --> 00:38:27,337
[Charlene speaking]
875
00:38:27,371 --> 00:38:30,874
[detective speaking]
876
00:38:30,908 --> 00:38:33,910
[narrator] Detectives are now
able to piece together
877
00:38:33,944 --> 00:38:39,149
Josh Niles and Amber
Washburn's final 24 hours.
878
00:38:39,183 --> 00:38:40,817
In May of 2018,
879
00:38:40,851 --> 00:38:45,689
Charlene loses custody
of her children to Josh.
880
00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:47,457
Charlene is devastated,
881
00:38:47,491 --> 00:38:50,327
and ultimately
Charlene tells Tim,
882
00:38:50,361 --> 00:38:52,562
Josh needs to die.
883
00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:54,497
She begins to develop a plan
884
00:38:54,532 --> 00:38:56,466
in order to get
that custody back.
885
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,469
And that starts in the garage
in Sunray, Texas,
886
00:38:59,503 --> 00:39:01,504
when her, Tim Dean,
887
00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:04,674
and friend Bron Bohlar
are present.
888
00:39:04,709 --> 00:39:07,410
Bron agrees to rent the vehicle.
889
00:39:07,445 --> 00:39:10,714
Charlene drives Bron
to the Amarillo Airport
890
00:39:10,748 --> 00:39:13,516
in order to pick up
this rental vehicle.
891
00:39:13,551 --> 00:39:15,151
And Tim takes it from there.
892
00:39:17,788 --> 00:39:21,624
Tim actually does start
his trip on October 19th,
893
00:39:21,659 --> 00:39:23,693
but wrecks his rental
vehicle in Kansas
894
00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:27,630
on October 20th
at about 4:00 AM.
895
00:39:27,665 --> 00:39:31,267
[Callanan] On October 21st,
Timothy Dean called Charlene
896
00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:34,571
to make her aware that
he is stranded in Kansas.
897
00:39:34,605 --> 00:39:37,307
She drives up to Kansas
898
00:39:37,341 --> 00:39:40,543
helps him rent another vehicle
899
00:39:40,578 --> 00:39:43,179
and tells him that
he should not come home
900
00:39:43,214 --> 00:39:46,983
unless he has done
what he's supposed to do.
901
00:39:48,552 --> 00:39:49,753
On October 22nd,
902
00:39:49,787 --> 00:39:51,454
license plate readers
pick him up
903
00:39:51,489 --> 00:39:53,456
at about 5:25 AM,
904
00:39:53,491 --> 00:39:55,759
90 minutes outside
of Sodus, New York.
905
00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:58,795
At 1:57 PM,
home surveillance cameras
906
00:39:58,829 --> 00:40:02,132
catch Tim Dean walking
through the streets of Sodus.
907
00:40:04,034 --> 00:40:05,702
[Callanan] Timothy Dean
walks down the driveway
908
00:40:05,736 --> 00:40:09,506
of Carlton Street
and confronts Joshua Niles.
909
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:10,874
There's a brief discussion
910
00:40:10,908 --> 00:40:14,444
before Timothy Dean
pulls out his gun...
911
00:40:14,478 --> 00:40:16,246
[gunshot]
912
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,548
...and shoots Josh Niles
once in the chest.
913
00:40:18,582 --> 00:40:20,517
[Det. Milby] At that same time,
914
00:40:20,551 --> 00:40:23,253
Amber pulls into the driveway
with her son, Josh Jr.
915
00:40:23,287 --> 00:40:24,554
In the backseat.
916
00:40:24,588 --> 00:40:26,489
Amber tries to leave
the driveway.
917
00:40:26,524 --> 00:40:29,159
Tim immediately turns to her
918
00:40:31,295 --> 00:40:34,330
and shoots her in the head.
919
00:40:34,365 --> 00:40:36,633
Tim then turns to Josh
920
00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:39,102
where he shoots him
nine more times.
921
00:40:39,136 --> 00:40:42,172
[gunshots]
922
00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:49,379
[dramatic music playing]
923
00:40:53,617 --> 00:40:56,853
[narrator] Tim Dean, Charlene
Childers, and Bron Bohlar
924
00:40:56,887 --> 00:40:58,521
are charged with the murders
925
00:40:58,556 --> 00:41:02,325
of Josh Niles
and Amber Washburn.
926
00:41:02,359 --> 00:41:04,627
For conspiracy
in the second degree,
927
00:41:04,662 --> 00:41:09,132
Bron Bohlar is sentenced
to one to three years.
928
00:41:09,166 --> 00:41:11,734
Tim Dean is convicted
a first-degree murder
929
00:41:11,769 --> 00:41:14,737
and sentenced to life
without parole.
930
00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:17,407
Charlene Childers
is found guilty
931
00:41:17,441 --> 00:41:18,708
of first-degree manslaughter
932
00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:21,644
and sentenced to 28 years.
933
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:25,148
She is eligible for parole
in 2042.
934
00:41:27,818 --> 00:41:32,722
[Callanan] I think of that
afternoon on Carlton Street,
935
00:41:32,756 --> 00:41:37,594
Josh Niles completely ambushed
in his driveway.
936
00:41:37,628 --> 00:41:39,295
The last thing he saw
937
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:43,366
was his fiancee being killed
938
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,668
wondering with his last moments,
939
00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:48,705
what was going to happen
to Josh Jr.
940
00:41:48,739 --> 00:41:50,740
[It. Croft]
I have young kids too.
941
00:41:50,774 --> 00:41:54,143
I can't imagine what that
would do to a young child.
942
00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:56,779
To be in the backseat
943
00:41:56,814 --> 00:42:00,450
and be a part
of the actual incident,
944
00:42:00,484 --> 00:42:03,586
it's got to be tough.
945
00:42:03,621 --> 00:42:05,588
[Det. Milby]
We're quite proud of the fact
946
00:42:05,623 --> 00:42:07,557
that we were able to bring
947
00:42:07,591 --> 00:42:10,527
Josh and Amber's killers
to justice.
948
00:42:10,561 --> 00:42:13,696
But we have kids out there
949
00:42:13,731 --> 00:42:16,466
who now don't have parents
950
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,868
and for what?
951
00:42:18,903 --> 00:42:23,006
Because of someone who got told
952
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,276
that she wasn't allowed
to have things her way.
953
00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:28,978
That's the tragedy.