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- You do need to slow down
a little bit.
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- I feel like I'm living the
life that I'm happy with living.
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- But as long as we're
your parents, we have this.
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Remember that.
- Okay, Dad.
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- We got this in the mail.
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No death certificate
record found
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in the name of Billy O'Toole.
This is crazy.
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How do you not have
a death certificate on file?
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- All right, so I got
the death certificate.
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-Oh, you did?
- Yeah.
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As far as the cause of death,
it says,
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"Immediate cause
pending further studies."
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- The reason why we came here
last minute is 'cause
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the government used my dad
to get to Jackie and Allie.
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So now he's working
to reopen that case.
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- You betrayed
your family, yes.
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Yes, everybody will know that.
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(phone line trilling)
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- My mom is missing.
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I'm worried,
and I have no idea where she is.
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- Hello?
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Where are you?
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- My dad's medication intake
is becoming too much.
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And we already had
that one slip-up.
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- I need for you
to take care of yourself,
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because this kid right here,
you're his (bleep) everything.
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I need you to be okay for him.
- One day at a time, G.
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- We need (bleep) help,
seriously, with this.
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- ♪ One day I'm gonna die ♪
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♪ I'll take you all with me ♪
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♪♪
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- So everything's good?
- Yeah, everything's good.
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- I miss you!
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- (grunting)
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- What happened?
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- (grunting)
- Come here!
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What happened?
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Why you holding your face?
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- I just hit the pole
with my eye.
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- What do you mean you hit
the pole with your eye?
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The pole don't move,
only you do.
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- I was running and I--
- Come here.
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- He was racing with some kid
and he fell and hit the pole.
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- You're like a goofball.
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Me bein' like a kid that's been
through some (bleep)
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in the street
and I've been through a lot,
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and this, this, and that,
I remember telling God
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that one night like, God,
I said, I'm gonna live
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and I'm gonna get
my lift straight
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for not only me
but for my siblings
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like my little brother
and sister.
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I love them to death.
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I would give literally anything
to go back to like this age,
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like (bleep) running around
at the park and (bleep).
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- Right?
Not having to worry
about (bleep).
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- Yeah.
- Christian!
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Look!
I am king!
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- But how's he doing anyway,
your father?
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- He's good.
Same (bleep).
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Now they gotta do
a radiation.
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You know, we don't want him
to get too caught up
on this medication.
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He feels confident.
He's thinking like,
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he wants to do the right thing
and he wants to be good
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and be straight
and (bleep), you know?
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But you can only
help somebody...
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(both)
So much.
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- Between (bleep) him,
how he was before jail,
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comes home,
all this (bleep) goin' on,
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I can't wait to just wrap
all this (bleep) up.
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Can't wait till he starts
working, does his own thing.
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- Right.
- I just can't keep
(bleep) with him.
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- You can't, Chris.
I told you.
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I'm glad you see it
for yourself.
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I'm glad you see that.
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- I'm definitely
thankful for my mom.
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She got two other kids
to worry about,
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but my mother's
definitely stepping up
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and playing a big part
in all this.
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She helps a lot, you know,
'cause she knows my dad.
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You know, she calls him up,
checks on him,
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makes sure he's okay,
make sure I'm okay.
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I tell her more (bleep).
You know, we're close.
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You know,
closer than we ever been.
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- Chris, you have a whole life
you have to live.
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- I know.
- It's your father.
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Granted, you wanna be there
for him, I get it.
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But, Chris, you got
the (bleep) world by your balls.
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♪♪
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- I spoke to Xavier
on the phone, finally.
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And, um, he's still
in the same predicament.
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- What is he--
he's in the hole?
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- He's still in the hole.
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He's still
"waiting for a transfer."
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Yet he hasn't gotten in trouble
for anything.
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If he's in there,
number one,
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it's not looking good
for us trying to file a motion
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to be able to get him home.
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- Right, of course.
He's sitting in the SHU.
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- Xavier right now is
in the SHU,
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which is
the special housing unit.
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He has limited communication
to myself,
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to his family,
to his lawyer.
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His case for some reason,
is just--
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we just keep hittin'
a brick wall.
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And not just in the courts,
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but also what he's going through
in the prison system.
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- So let's say
he gets out of the SHU,
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because the attorney's
now gonna fight for him
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to get out of the SHU.
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What's important
in other documents
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that you highlight
that I could look out for
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that is important
for his case?
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- When he's saying there's
200-and-something cases,
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like I feel like
I have to find something.
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- I'm ready to do
some searching.
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- You have to find
the exact case.
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Order granting
compassionate release,
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default Johnson.
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- Hold on now.
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Right here.
United States vs Johnson.
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Download your PDF.
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- United States vs Johnson.
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- This was originally sentenced
for covered defense
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and is therefore eligible
for relief
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under section 404
of the First Step Act.
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I'm reading into other cases
that had the same charges
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and were released.
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When I see things like this,
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it makes me
wanna fight harder.
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- And here's where he's saying,
in the Johnson case,
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when it went to
the courts of appeal,
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The courts of appeal
ruled in his favor.
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- Right, 'cause the Johnson
case, the guy got out.
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- Yes.
The bottom line here is,
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the Johnson case is
a covered offense.
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- Now you could forward both
of these over to my aunt Jo
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and tell her to use this
in your defense,
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where he stayed at.
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I mean I could point out things
in this case already
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that-- that could be used
in Xavier's defense.
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- We make enough?
- We have enough for four?
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- Yeah.
- This is heartbreaking
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to my children
that Billy's not here
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for the birth
of his grandchildren.
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Billy's not here for birthdays,
for holidays.
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He has another generation
that he brought into this world.
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Me and him together,
we brought our children in,
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and now our children
are bringing children in.
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And whatever happened that
night, he's not here for that,
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and that's-- that's terrible.
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- What's it like growing up
without siblings?
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Compared to like--
like being here, crazy, right?
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So many personalities.
- Never imagined.
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- There's always
something goin' on.
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- What I've learned
from coming from a big family
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is that you fight hard
but you love harder.
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You know what I'm saying?
Me and Taylor,
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we could have a brawl.
The next day, you know,
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we're hugging
and we're loving each other.
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I'm sorry.
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- Aww.
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- Never hold a grudge.
- No.
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- You can never hold a grudge.
- No.
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- You'll die with holding
that grudge
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and you'll never be able
to forgive yourself
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for even holding it.
- Right.
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Life can change
for the worst in a minute.
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You don't know.
- Be grateful.
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- Be grateful for right now.
You know, we've been through
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a lot, but you know what?
We got through it
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because we had each other.
- After Daddy passed away,
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if we sat there and just
dwelled on it every single day,
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we'd be sittin' here today like,
oh, look how much time passes.
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How much time did I waste?
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- Listen,
the private investigator
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wasn't willing to help us
with what happened
with Daddy that night.
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- Right.
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- The year that my dad passed,
I kinda healed myself,
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So I had mixed emotions
about a private investigator
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because I really didn't wanna
relive the situation,
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but the private investigator
didn't really go anywhere,
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he didn't really help us,
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and we still don't have
solid evidence.
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It's definitely,
um, a little hard.
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- We still have to wait
for the medical examiner report,
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see what that says.
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We'll get to the bottom.
We'll get to bottom of it.
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- I wish it was a bad dream,
I really do.
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- It's not a dream,
it's reality, it happened.
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You know, but we have
every right to know
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what happened that night.
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Meanwhile the death certificate
says "immediate cause
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pending further studies."
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We don't know what happened
that night yet.
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We know that things
aren't true.
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- You know
who Allie Persico is.
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- You believe
he should be out?
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- I'm actually gonna go see
Xavier at the end of the month.
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- He was
in solitary confinement.
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I think it really took a mental
and emotional toll on him.
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-He's definitely not
in Moscow.
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He's here
and he's gonna stay here.
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- I don't feel good.
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- What's that?
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- The actual autopsy report.
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- Wait, what'd it say,
cause of death?
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- No way.
- What'd I say?
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♪♪
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- How was your trip?
You're finally back.
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- Yeah.
It was very good.
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Very good.
- You feel more relaxed now?
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- Yes, because, you know,
after I meet with Seva...
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- Mm-hmm.
- ...and talk with your father,
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I was so upset.
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You betrayed your family, Boris.
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- So I need just get away.
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- Yeah, but how do you just
drop everything and go?
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I don't understand.
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- Because I was in depression
after talking to your father.
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You understand?
- Yeah.
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- You know
I was always strong, right?
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And now I feel like,
you know,
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I have no energy no more.
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When I talk to him, I feel like
he's sucking my blood.
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- He's been sucking your blood
for a very long time.
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I don't understand why--
what took you so long
to realize that.
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We need to go to Moscow
with the divorce papers,
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you sit down, we'll talk to him,
and that's it.
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- Okay, because it can go
like this no more.
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- At this point,
from the conversation
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that my mom had with Boris,
it looks like
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we're gonna have to go to Russia
to-- to sign the divorce papers
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because we don't even know
when he's gonna come down
to New York.
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Both parties need to be there
to sign the divorce papers.
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That's why I think
it's better off for us
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to just fly down to him.
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- Right, absolutely.
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I always wanted you
become good friends.
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Like father and son.
- I understand.
243
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But I don't need him
for anything.
244
00:10:47,312 --> 00:10:50,048
- I tell the truth,
he not deserve son like you.
245
00:10:50,115 --> 00:10:52,684
- Yeah, that's why you need
to listen to me.
246
00:10:52,751 --> 00:10:54,786
- And you need
to listen to me.
247
00:10:54,853 --> 00:10:57,689
- Mm-hmm.
- He wants to be alone.
248
00:10:57,756 --> 00:10:59,658
He don't wanna have a family.
249
00:10:59,725 --> 00:11:04,329
He have the best family
and he lost it.
250
00:11:04,396 --> 00:11:07,666
He lost his family.
251
00:11:07,733 --> 00:11:10,369
- Maybe one day he'll understand
and realize that.
252
00:11:10,435 --> 00:11:12,838
- Yeah.
- So, please, no more surprises.
253
00:11:12,904 --> 00:11:14,740
Can't just leave last minute.
254
00:11:14,806 --> 00:11:16,875
I'll work with you
so we can plan this trip
255
00:11:16,942 --> 00:11:18,710
and go to Russia
and just get everything done.
256
00:11:18,777 --> 00:11:20,579
- And start new life
without him.
257
00:11:20,645 --> 00:11:23,048
- That too.
- Okay.
258
00:11:35,127 --> 00:11:39,197
- Today, I'm mainly here just
to, you know, for support.
259
00:11:39,297 --> 00:11:40,766
Like both of y'all.
260
00:11:40,832 --> 00:11:43,135
I wanna make sure
that you both have the room
261
00:11:43,201 --> 00:11:45,103
to really say what
you need to say.
262
00:11:47,305 --> 00:11:48,840
Hello again, Dana.
- Hi.
263
00:11:48,907 --> 00:11:50,542
- Hello, beautiful.
- Oh, this is so crazy.
264
00:11:50,609 --> 00:11:52,644
- I know.
- No, it's not.
265
00:11:52,711 --> 00:11:54,513
It's not crazy.
- A little bit. Hi.
266
00:11:54,579 --> 00:11:57,249
- Mmm.
267
00:11:57,282 --> 00:11:58,517
Thank you for coming.
268
00:11:58,583 --> 00:11:59,951
- A little shaky.
Hi.
269
00:12:00,018 --> 00:12:03,555
- Don't be shaky.
Come on, take your coat off.
270
00:12:03,622 --> 00:12:05,023
Please.
271
00:12:05,090 --> 00:12:06,858
- Wait.
Thanks.
272
00:12:06,925 --> 00:12:10,996
- Sit, baby girl.
Sit, baby girl.
273
00:12:11,063 --> 00:12:13,799
- I'm a little still shocked,
so I don't--
274
00:12:13,865 --> 00:12:16,168
- Look, you're safe here.
You know that.
275
00:12:16,268 --> 00:12:17,836
I'm your brother.
276
00:12:17,903 --> 00:12:19,604
- Yeah.
277
00:12:19,671 --> 00:12:22,607
- I am so sorry
I stood away for so long.
278
00:12:22,674 --> 00:12:25,677
- Well... hindsight, right?
279
00:12:25,744 --> 00:12:29,014
- Yeah, I let silly fears
keep me away.
280
00:12:29,081 --> 00:12:33,518
- So what was the reason
to come to New York?
281
00:12:33,585 --> 00:12:37,956
- Um, I needed
to come see my lawyer.
282
00:12:38,023 --> 00:12:41,159
Um, let me-- I--
Not to--
283
00:12:41,293 --> 00:12:42,994
- I gave her
a little background--
284
00:12:43,061 --> 00:12:45,063
- Yeah, but not--
not to--
285
00:12:45,130 --> 00:12:47,899
I don't want to bypass
what we're talking about.
286
00:12:47,966 --> 00:12:49,935
You know who Allie Persico is.
287
00:12:51,136 --> 00:12:53,105
Well, his lawyer
reached out to me.
288
00:12:53,238 --> 00:12:56,508
He wanted to know
if I would be able
289
00:12:56,575 --> 00:13:01,913
to help them
possibly get a retrial.
290
00:13:01,980 --> 00:13:05,117
- Knowing what you know
about him, aside from Daddy,
291
00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:08,019
do you believe
he should be out?
292
00:13:10,489 --> 00:13:11,990
- I'm gonna say yes.
293
00:13:12,057 --> 00:13:14,059
- And you would help
facilitate that?
294
00:13:14,126 --> 00:13:17,129
- Just try to advocate
a little bit.
295
00:13:17,262 --> 00:13:22,968
- Look, I'm all for people not
being in prison and being free,
296
00:13:23,035 --> 00:13:26,405
but considering
the circumstances,
297
00:13:26,471 --> 00:13:29,541
I just don't know why energy
would be put towards that,
298
00:13:29,608 --> 00:13:33,445
especially considering
that we live in New York.
299
00:13:33,512 --> 00:13:35,580
So that's not exactly an
300
00:13:35,647 --> 00:13:39,184
exciting thing to hear
on our end.
301
00:13:39,284 --> 00:13:40,786
- I know.
302
00:13:40,852 --> 00:13:44,923
- And to that point,
you left a woman and a child
303
00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:49,761
to defend themselves completely
right off the bat, exposed.
304
00:13:49,828 --> 00:13:53,265
And that risk,
my mom dealt with a lot.
305
00:13:53,331 --> 00:13:55,834
- I know.
- When my brother Billy
306
00:13:55,901 --> 00:13:57,569
went into Witness Protection,
307
00:13:57,636 --> 00:14:02,541
he was not there to help us,
to make sure we were okay.
308
00:14:02,607 --> 00:14:04,309
It felt like we were
just abandoned.
309
00:14:04,376 --> 00:14:07,112
Me and my mom were in a lot
of dangerous situations
310
00:14:07,245 --> 00:14:10,615
at that point,
so to forgive what happened,
311
00:14:10,682 --> 00:14:14,352
I don't even know if that's
necessarily possible.
312
00:14:14,419 --> 00:14:17,322
To think that I had to
digest a brutal murder
313
00:14:17,389 --> 00:14:21,426
at nine years old,
and then people coming after us,
314
00:14:21,493 --> 00:14:25,130
it being on the news
and somewhat try to lead
315
00:14:25,263 --> 00:14:28,100
a normal life and hide that
at the same time, like,
316
00:14:28,166 --> 00:14:30,268
the fact that this
is all coming out now
317
00:14:30,268 --> 00:14:32,904
would've been nice
to hear it previous.
318
00:14:32,971 --> 00:14:34,339
I doubt anything would happen
319
00:14:34,406 --> 00:14:36,608
because we hold our own,
we're fine.
320
00:14:36,675 --> 00:14:39,077
But if anything did,
321
00:14:39,144 --> 00:14:44,750
that would potentially weigh
heavy on you, wouldn't it?
322
00:14:44,816 --> 00:14:49,020
Yeah, so...
a point to consider.
323
00:14:49,087 --> 00:14:51,823
- I want you guys
to be left alone.
324
00:14:51,890 --> 00:14:54,025
- We are right now.
(chuckles)
325
00:14:54,092 --> 00:14:57,863
Currently.
- I am going nowhere now.
326
00:14:57,929 --> 00:14:59,364
I will be here.
327
00:14:59,431 --> 00:15:01,800
- There's a lot of emotions
happening right now.
328
00:15:01,867 --> 00:15:05,103
So I mean I will
be able to speak more,
329
00:15:05,237 --> 00:15:07,939
you know, as time goes on,
but I do appreciate
330
00:15:08,006 --> 00:15:10,976
the fact that we're able
to even talk and sit down.
331
00:15:11,043 --> 00:15:12,577
This has been really crazy.
332
00:15:12,644 --> 00:15:15,113
- Thank you for coming.
- Yeah.
333
00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:16,415
Okay.
334
00:15:16,481 --> 00:15:19,651
It's crazy even saying good-bye
to all of us.
335
00:15:19,718 --> 00:15:20,852
- It's more like
"see you later."
336
00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:22,254
I'll be back.
- Yeah, okay.
337
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,023
I'm trying to not leave
with anger.
338
00:15:25,090 --> 00:15:27,726
I still have
a lot of it inside.
339
00:15:27,793 --> 00:15:30,095
Thank you for reaching out.
340
00:15:30,162 --> 00:15:33,832
I'm always open to someone
acknowledging what they did,
341
00:15:33,899 --> 00:15:36,268
and I appreciate that,
'cause it takes a lot
342
00:15:36,301 --> 00:15:41,973
to be able to say it regardless,
but I am wary as well.
343
00:15:52,934 --> 00:15:56,404
- ♪ Don't stop ♪
344
00:15:56,470 --> 00:15:58,105
♪ Running ♪
345
00:15:58,172 --> 00:16:01,509
♪♪
346
00:16:01,576 --> 00:16:02,843
- Hey!
- Hi.
347
00:16:02,910 --> 00:16:05,546
- Good seeing you.
- Nice to see you.
348
00:16:05,613 --> 00:16:07,515
So I wanted to give you
some updates
349
00:16:07,582 --> 00:16:09,083
about Xavier's case...
- Okay.
350
00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:12,320
- ...and where we are.
You know, last time we spoke,
351
00:16:12,386 --> 00:16:14,889
he was in solitary confinement.
- Yes.
352
00:16:14,956 --> 00:16:17,658
It was three months...
- That is a horrific amount
353
00:16:17,725 --> 00:16:19,927
of time to be
in solitary confinement.
354
00:16:19,994 --> 00:16:21,963
- Right.
- And I think it really took
355
00:16:22,029 --> 00:16:24,699
a mental and emotional toll
on him.
356
00:16:24,765 --> 00:16:27,902
Picture yourself
in a small closet
357
00:16:27,969 --> 00:16:30,972
with no windows,
with only a door,
358
00:16:31,038 --> 00:16:34,308
and it's all metal
and all concrete.
359
00:16:34,375 --> 00:16:38,880
You have no pillow,
no blanket, no mattress,
360
00:16:38,946 --> 00:16:40,848
no heat that you control.
361
00:16:40,915 --> 00:16:44,919
And you have no idea when
you're going to get out.
362
00:16:44,986 --> 00:16:49,323
So that really motivates me
to make sure
363
00:16:49,390 --> 00:16:52,627
that Xavier's life
isn't spent as a fossil.
364
00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,630
- Thank God.
I mean, you definitely,
365
00:16:55,763 --> 00:16:59,433
you know, were there throughout
the whole lockdown,
366
00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:00,801
and now he's out.
- Yeah.
367
00:17:00,868 --> 00:17:02,270
- Thank you for fighting
for that.
368
00:17:02,336 --> 00:17:04,171
- Yeah, you know, it was a fight
to get that done.
369
00:17:04,238 --> 00:17:05,973
- Yes.
- But we're not--
370
00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,143
we're not giving up.
I was like, no, you know?
371
00:17:09,210 --> 00:17:10,778
I need to be able
to talk to him.
372
00:17:10,811 --> 00:17:12,280
- Like seeing
that there are other cases
373
00:17:12,346 --> 00:17:14,315
that are coming out
with the same charges
374
00:17:14,382 --> 00:17:16,517
that he has have been released
from prison.
375
00:17:16,584 --> 00:17:18,619
Where do we go from here?
- If he were standing
376
00:17:18,686 --> 00:17:22,189
in front of a judge today,
the likelihood that he would
377
00:17:22,256 --> 00:17:25,026
receive a life sentence
is very slim.
378
00:17:25,092 --> 00:17:27,895
So we talked about
some new bills that are
379
00:17:27,962 --> 00:17:29,797
winding their way
through Congress.
380
00:17:29,797 --> 00:17:31,332
- Right.
- Particularly the one
381
00:17:31,399 --> 00:17:33,334
that would eliminate
the disparity
382
00:17:33,401 --> 00:17:36,604
or the difference between crack
and powder sentences.
383
00:17:36,671 --> 00:17:37,905
- Right.
384
00:17:37,972 --> 00:17:41,642
- Xavier's life sentence
is based upon
385
00:17:41,709 --> 00:17:43,911
this unscientific idea
386
00:17:43,978 --> 00:17:46,414
that crack is more serious
than powder.
387
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,518
But you can't make crack
without powder, right?
388
00:17:50,585 --> 00:17:53,521
And the first response was
putting people in prison
389
00:17:53,588 --> 00:17:56,524
for a very long time,
having unfair crack laws
390
00:17:56,591 --> 00:18:00,094
that disproportionately affect
Black and brown people.
391
00:18:00,161 --> 00:18:03,898
And so how we got here is
from a failed and flawed
392
00:18:03,965 --> 00:18:06,634
public health response
to a real problem.
393
00:18:06,767 --> 00:18:09,370
- I'm actually gonna go see
Xavier at the end of the month.
394
00:18:09,437 --> 00:18:12,607
For me, it's important to go,
because I think visits
395
00:18:12,673 --> 00:18:15,776
and just keeping him
motivated and stuff...
396
00:18:15,810 --> 00:18:17,311
- Yeah, yeah, no.
397
00:18:17,378 --> 00:18:20,214
You're nourishing him in ways
that honestly
398
00:18:20,281 --> 00:18:24,051
will keep him motivated
to still fight.
399
00:18:24,118 --> 00:18:26,254
I am firmly committed
to making sure
400
00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,889
that he does not die in prison,
401
00:18:27,955 --> 00:18:30,524
and that's the energy
I'm moving with.
402
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:40,034
♪♪
403
00:18:48,976 --> 00:18:51,746
(phone buzzing)
404
00:18:51,812 --> 00:18:53,147
- Hello?
405
00:18:54,949 --> 00:18:56,284
- What's up?
What's goin' on?
406
00:18:57,818 --> 00:18:59,253
- So what happened today?
407
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,489
Today was his last one, right?
His last radiation.
408
00:19:15,636 --> 00:19:18,506
- That's what they said?
409
00:19:18,573 --> 00:19:22,143
God gives his toughest battles
to his strongest soldiers.
410
00:19:22,210 --> 00:19:24,545
I didn't know I was this strong
'cause it just keeps happening.
411
00:19:24,612 --> 00:19:28,349
So for right now, news like that
is definitely good.
412
00:19:28,416 --> 00:19:30,184
I'd rather hear that
than anything else.
413
00:19:30,251 --> 00:19:31,986
But there could always
still be something going on.
414
00:19:32,053 --> 00:19:33,554
This doesn't mean it's over.
Listen.
415
00:19:33,621 --> 00:19:35,489
I'm gonna feel better when they
get a few more visits in
416
00:19:35,556 --> 00:19:38,492
and they definitely confirm him
that he's 100% cancer-free.
417
00:19:49,971 --> 00:19:52,240
- So he's good?
So he's saying he's
looking good, right?
418
00:19:52,306 --> 00:19:55,076
And you know what, too, I don't
want to get my hopes up on--
419
00:19:55,142 --> 00:19:57,245
I mean that cancer-free thing,
to hear that,
420
00:19:57,311 --> 00:19:59,180
that's a weight off
everybody's shoulders.
421
00:20:05,519 --> 00:20:08,256
- That's right.
422
00:20:08,322 --> 00:20:09,790
Right, I love you, Pop.
Thank you.
423
00:20:09,857 --> 00:20:11,292
Tell him to call me later.
424
00:20:15,062 --> 00:20:16,497
- I will.
I love you, bye.
425
00:20:18,165 --> 00:20:21,402
- It's good (bleep).
426
00:20:21,469 --> 00:20:25,473
♪♪
427
00:20:33,314 --> 00:20:35,783
- Wish he could see Jovie.
Jovie, hey.
428
00:20:35,850 --> 00:20:38,252
Jovans.
Where are we?
429
00:20:38,319 --> 00:20:40,087
We're coming to see Grandpa?
430
00:20:40,154 --> 00:20:44,425
We're coming to see
cr-- crazy Grandpa?
431
00:20:44,492 --> 00:20:46,527
- I mean it's still,
like, so surreal.
432
00:20:46,594 --> 00:20:49,597
- Look at 'em flying over us.
(geese honking)
433
00:20:49,664 --> 00:20:51,332
These are the signs
that I love.
434
00:20:51,399 --> 00:20:53,401
I-- this is what
keeps me going,
435
00:20:53,467 --> 00:20:55,736
because anytime
I bring up his name,
436
00:20:55,770 --> 00:20:59,507
he's always giving me signs
he's right around.
437
00:20:59,574 --> 00:21:02,843
But... I know the baby's cold
and you're cold.
438
00:21:02,910 --> 00:21:06,113
I wanna take a minute for myself
just to, you know,
439
00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:09,984
say a little prayer
and just talk to him one-on-one.
440
00:21:10,051 --> 00:21:12,520
- Okay.
441
00:21:12,587 --> 00:21:15,423
- Oh, God.
442
00:21:15,489 --> 00:21:17,992
Crazy, Dad.
Really is.
443
00:21:18,059 --> 00:21:19,527
(sniffles)
444
00:21:19,594 --> 00:21:22,196
You were my go-to guy,
the man I looked up to.
445
00:21:22,263 --> 00:21:24,165
I wish you were
right here next to me,
446
00:21:24,232 --> 00:21:26,167
still guiding me
the way you used to
447
00:21:26,234 --> 00:21:28,970
and giving me the advice
that I need.
448
00:21:29,036 --> 00:21:31,038
You know I love you.
- And I love you.
449
00:21:31,105 --> 00:21:32,974
- And I'm happy
that I'm-- that--
450
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,109
that I could spend
the rest of my life
451
00:21:35,176 --> 00:21:36,611
with my father
on good terms,
452
00:21:36,677 --> 00:21:38,312
'cause that's how
I plan on doing it.
453
00:21:38,379 --> 00:21:41,449
- And I hope so, Joseph.
454
00:21:41,515 --> 00:21:44,819
- You know, you were able
to understand and relate to me,
455
00:21:44,886 --> 00:21:47,521
and you're in my prayers
and thoughts every single night.
456
00:21:47,588 --> 00:21:50,358
I hope you're resting in peace.
I really do.
457
00:21:50,424 --> 00:21:52,260
If something did happen
that night,
458
00:21:52,326 --> 00:21:55,529
I know you're rolling
in your grave right beneath me.
459
00:21:55,596 --> 00:21:57,365
And that's why me,
Matt, and Taylor
460
00:21:57,431 --> 00:22:01,402
are taking the steps to see what
really went down that night.
461
00:22:01,469 --> 00:22:05,373
So you can finally
rest in peace.
462
00:22:05,439 --> 00:22:08,442
(woman)
What would you say
you miss most about him?
463
00:22:08,509 --> 00:22:10,745
- Um...
464
00:22:10,811 --> 00:22:13,881
I'd probably say, uh...
465
00:22:13,948 --> 00:22:16,117
(clears throat)
466
00:22:16,183 --> 00:22:19,153
Probably just his goofy self,
you know?
467
00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:22,757
He was just mad funny.
468
00:22:22,757 --> 00:22:24,458
Sorry.
469
00:22:24,525 --> 00:22:28,563
♪♪
470
00:22:28,629 --> 00:22:33,100
I would just miss, uh, you know,
his hugs, his advice.
471
00:22:33,167 --> 00:22:35,069
Just him being here.
472
00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:38,673
♪♪
473
00:22:38,773 --> 00:22:40,775
(geese honking)
474
00:22:48,531 --> 00:22:49,946
♪♪
475
00:22:49,946 --> 00:22:52,114
(siren wailing)
476
00:22:52,114 --> 00:22:56,614
♪♪
477
00:22:58,865 --> 00:23:00,156
(Bills)
All right, well,
at the airport.
478
00:23:00,156 --> 00:23:03,739
(Billy Jr.)
Guys, I thought, all in all,
we had a great trip.
479
00:23:03,739 --> 00:23:04,865
(Bills)
It's been a good time.
480
00:23:04,865 --> 00:23:08,406
- We accomplished what
we wanted to accomplish.
481
00:23:08,406 --> 00:23:09,239
Um...
482
00:23:09,239 --> 00:23:12,781
like I said, the lawyer stuff
we needed to be handled,
483
00:23:12,781 --> 00:23:13,865
that was handled.
484
00:23:13,865 --> 00:23:17,656
Um, seeing family,
which was imperative.
485
00:23:17,656 --> 00:23:19,573
- So happy we got to meet her.
- We made it happen.
486
00:23:19,573 --> 00:23:23,823
Yeah, rather than dreading
coming to New York,
487
00:23:23,823 --> 00:23:29,364
now at least I feel that now I'm
looking forward to coming back.
488
00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:32,739
And you know,
me catching up with Dana,
489
00:23:32,739 --> 00:23:37,364
you catching up with Dana,
it was seamless.
490
00:23:37,364 --> 00:23:40,239
For me,
that's kinda great.
491
00:23:40,989 --> 00:23:43,656
(Layla)
Going to New York made me
a stronger person.
492
00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:47,281
I feel like my grandpa's life
really did affect
493
00:23:47,281 --> 00:23:50,573
my dad's, obviously,
which made a huge impact
494
00:23:50,573 --> 00:23:53,656
on everybody else's
in our family,
495
00:23:53,656 --> 00:23:54,739
especially with Dana.
496
00:23:54,739 --> 00:23:55,865
The way my dad explains to me,
497
00:23:55,865 --> 00:23:57,614
she went through hell
and back after that.
498
00:23:57,614 --> 00:24:00,406
How can I really say anything
if I don't know
499
00:24:00,406 --> 00:24:02,906
what she went through too?
500
00:24:04,239 --> 00:24:08,656
♪♪
501
00:24:11,531 --> 00:24:13,531
(phone ringing)
502
00:24:13,531 --> 00:24:16,114
- Seva calling.
503
00:24:17,906 --> 00:24:19,573
Hi, Seva.
504
00:24:31,364 --> 00:24:34,698
I talked to him
like a couple days ago.
505
00:24:34,698 --> 00:24:36,573
He's here
and he's gonna stay here
506
00:24:36,573 --> 00:24:37,946
for like maybe
a couple months.
507
00:24:37,946 --> 00:24:40,406
He's definitely not in Moscow.
- When did he come?
508
00:24:40,406 --> 00:24:43,406
-I don't know,
maybe a week?
509
00:24:43,406 --> 00:24:45,739
- Every time I would ask,
people would say,
510
00:24:45,739 --> 00:24:47,739
"Oh, he's not coming,
he's not coming,
511
00:24:47,739 --> 00:24:49,322
he's not coming,"
and now he came.
512
00:24:49,322 --> 00:24:52,946
You know what I mean, Seva?
- I can't comment, Eli.
513
00:24:52,946 --> 00:24:53,946
I can't, sorry.
514
00:24:53,946 --> 00:24:56,656
- Well, Seva,
are you gonna go see him?
515
00:24:56,656 --> 00:24:59,156
- Uh, yeah,
I-I could see him.
516
00:24:59,156 --> 00:24:59,947
I don't know when.
517
00:24:59,947 --> 00:25:02,406
We were planning
on meeting this week.
518
00:25:02,406 --> 00:25:05,946
- Maybe we can, you know,
somewhere you meet with him
519
00:25:05,946 --> 00:25:07,573
and I come.
You understand?
520
00:25:07,573 --> 00:25:10,946
You're not-- it's gonna be like
somewhere you sitting,
521
00:25:10,946 --> 00:25:12,406
and I wanna come,
you know?
522
00:25:12,406 --> 00:25:15,573
Like you don't tell him.
-No, no, no, don't.
523
00:25:15,573 --> 00:25:16,656
Count me out, please,
524
00:25:16,656 --> 00:25:19,322
because that he will
consider it as a trap.
525
00:25:19,322 --> 00:25:20,781
- I see.
-And he will start hate me
526
00:25:20,781 --> 00:25:23,531
for the rest of his life.
I don't want an enemy.
527
00:25:23,531 --> 00:25:24,781
- I understand,
I understand.
528
00:25:24,781 --> 00:25:28,322
- Okay, guys, that's all
I wanted to tell you.
529
00:25:28,322 --> 00:25:30,946
And so...
I gotta go.
530
00:25:30,946 --> 00:25:32,946
- Okay, okay, Seva.
- Bye, Seva.
531
00:25:32,946 --> 00:25:35,656
- Bye, bye.
- I can't believe he's here.
532
00:25:35,656 --> 00:25:36,946
- Okay, I'm so upset
right now.
533
00:25:36,946 --> 00:25:41,614
So I mean-- you know,
it's like a shock for me
534
00:25:41,614 --> 00:25:44,531
that he's here.
535
00:25:44,946 --> 00:25:47,281
- So now you have to meet
with him.
536
00:25:47,281 --> 00:25:51,573
- Yeah, so I need to see him
and talk with him about divorce.
537
00:25:51,573 --> 00:25:53,239
We'll see what he will say
538
00:25:53,239 --> 00:25:55,865
before we're gonna go
to the lawyer.
539
00:25:55,865 --> 00:25:57,946
- Okay.
- Now my heart is like,
540
00:25:57,946 --> 00:26:01,239
if you hear, my God,
it's beating like this.
541
00:26:01,239 --> 00:26:04,739
It's like I'm nervous,
I'm telling you.
542
00:26:04,739 --> 00:26:05,656
Boom-boom-boom.
543
00:26:05,656 --> 00:26:07,946
It's like I don't
feel good now.
544
00:26:07,946 --> 00:26:10,698
- Having him here,
it's... it's...
545
00:26:10,698 --> 00:26:12,739
I think it's
a burden on everyone.
546
00:26:12,739 --> 00:26:14,823
My mom is stressed out.
547
00:26:14,823 --> 00:26:16,906
Um, I'm a little
stressed out.
548
00:26:16,906 --> 00:26:19,947
And I'm sure, you know,
there's other authorities
549
00:26:19,947 --> 00:26:22,823
that are watching,
making sure that hopefully
550
00:26:22,823 --> 00:26:24,906
he'll make another
stupid move.
551
00:26:24,906 --> 00:26:28,781
I think there's always
someone watching him.
552
00:26:29,946 --> 00:26:31,573
I know where he's gonna be.
553
00:26:31,573 --> 00:26:32,946
He's gonna be in the park
554
00:26:32,946 --> 00:26:33,946
or he's gonna be
on the boardwalk.
555
00:26:33,946 --> 00:26:36,781
So we can catch him there.
- Yeah, okay.
556
00:26:36,781 --> 00:26:38,946
I hope he will
willing to talk.
557
00:26:38,946 --> 00:26:40,865
- Yeah.
- I'm already nervous.
558
00:26:40,865 --> 00:26:43,947
You see?
- Everything's gonna be fine.
559
00:26:45,406 --> 00:26:47,489
- Okay.
560
00:26:53,124 --> 00:26:57,329
♪♪
561
00:27:03,335 --> 00:27:04,502
(Karen)
When's the last time
that you've been
562
00:27:04,569 --> 00:27:08,073
in a prison in a bit?
- Ten years.
563
00:27:08,139 --> 00:27:10,742
I'm gonna have like,
PTSD walking in.
564
00:27:12,811 --> 00:27:16,381
It's been forever,
it's been probably since...
565
00:27:16,448 --> 00:27:18,450
who was the last person
I visited?
566
00:27:18,516 --> 00:27:21,253
My dad?
- Grandpa.
567
00:27:21,319 --> 00:27:22,854
- Now that I've seen
how long it's been
568
00:27:22,921 --> 00:27:24,823
that my mom's fighting for
Xavier's freedom,
569
00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:28,693
I've been able to build
my own relationship with Xavier.
570
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,228
(Karen)
And it's important for me
571
00:27:30,295 --> 00:27:32,397
that Karina sees the human being
572
00:27:32,464 --> 00:27:35,267
behind just the paperwork,
573
00:27:35,333 --> 00:27:36,768
behind the phone call.
574
00:27:36,835 --> 00:27:38,770
You're actually able
to look him in the eyes
575
00:27:38,837 --> 00:27:43,642
and have that interaction,
people deserve that.
576
00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:47,512
♪♪
577
00:27:49,414 --> 00:27:50,682
(GPS system)
Starting route to Bennettsville
578
00:27:50,749 --> 00:27:53,418
Federal Correctional
Institution.
579
00:27:53,451 --> 00:27:56,221
- I honestly never thought
at this particular time
580
00:27:56,288 --> 00:27:57,822
we wouldn't have answers,
you know?
581
00:27:57,889 --> 00:27:59,991
It's like,
sometimes I feel like
582
00:28:00,058 --> 00:28:01,493
we're just not going anywhere,
583
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,328
we're just stuck in
the same position
584
00:28:03,428 --> 00:28:05,430
just spinning our wheels.
585
00:28:05,463 --> 00:28:08,300
I truly hope that this
is the beginning
586
00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:10,101
of the end of his sentence.
587
00:28:10,168 --> 00:28:14,139
It's just how do we get
that vehicle into the court
588
00:28:14,206 --> 00:28:16,208
to make the judge
see what we see
589
00:28:16,274 --> 00:28:19,811
that he deserves
a second chance at life?
590
00:28:22,614 --> 00:28:27,018
♪♪
591
00:28:27,085 --> 00:28:29,287
Let's go, girl.
592
00:28:29,354 --> 00:28:31,823
You ready?
- Yeah.
593
00:28:50,208 --> 00:28:53,211
(foghorn blowing)
594
00:28:53,278 --> 00:28:58,483
♪♪
595
00:29:04,089 --> 00:29:05,557
- Let me see your belly.
596
00:29:05,624 --> 00:29:08,493
- That's a big belly.
- Mm-mm-mmm!
597
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,262
- Tater-tutus!
- Big belly, right?
598
00:29:10,328 --> 00:29:12,297
- Woo hoo hoo!
599
00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:13,732
That's a boy right there.
600
00:29:13,798 --> 00:29:15,700
Matty!
601
00:29:15,767 --> 00:29:16,601
- Hey, Matt.
602
00:29:16,668 --> 00:29:17,936
- Look at that belly.
603
00:29:18,003 --> 00:29:20,038
- I know, we were just
talking about it.
604
00:29:20,105 --> 00:29:21,907
- Brought mail.
This came.
605
00:29:21,973 --> 00:29:24,342
- What's that?
- Medical examiner thing.
606
00:29:24,442 --> 00:29:25,443
Daddy's report.
607
00:29:25,443 --> 00:29:26,912
The actual autopsy report.
608
00:29:26,978 --> 00:29:28,813
- Daddy's autopsy report?
- Yeah.
609
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,582
Should we open it?
- Go ahead.
610
00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:32,717
What was it the last time?
- That was a death certificate.
611
00:29:32,784 --> 00:29:34,085
- What was the paper
the PI read?
612
00:29:34,152 --> 00:29:35,587
- That was a police report.
613
00:29:35,654 --> 00:29:37,055
(Taylor) We never got
the autopsy report?
614
00:29:37,122 --> 00:29:39,824
- No, this like, says everything
that was in his system.
615
00:29:39,891 --> 00:29:41,993
- No way.
- I don't know how
to read any of this,
616
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:44,329
I don't know what any of this
is gonna mean.
617
00:29:44,462 --> 00:29:46,498
♪♪
618
00:29:46,565 --> 00:29:47,566
- What does i--
what does it say?
619
00:29:47,632 --> 00:29:48,867
- So, we got here...
620
00:29:48,934 --> 00:29:50,535
- Wait, was it?
- Cause of death?
621
00:29:50,602 --> 00:29:53,104
Hanging, suicide.
622
00:29:53,171 --> 00:29:54,973
- What'd I say?
623
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,042
What'd I say? I said it
from the beginning.
624
00:29:57,108 --> 00:29:59,945
There's nothing saying
there was drugs that did it.
625
00:30:00,011 --> 00:30:02,480
It was brought to my attention
that he overdosed.
626
00:30:02,547 --> 00:30:04,883
I knew that that
wasn't the way it was.
627
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:07,018
But because the police said
it was an overdose,
628
00:30:07,085 --> 00:30:09,754
the kids and me said,
okay, it was an overdose,
629
00:30:09,821 --> 00:30:11,556
but we weren't
satisfied with that,
630
00:30:11,623 --> 00:30:13,258
we knew that there
was more to it.
631
00:30:13,325 --> 00:30:15,060
Now the autopsy confirmed
632
00:30:15,126 --> 00:30:17,229
that Billy's passing
was due to hanging.
633
00:30:17,295 --> 00:30:18,864
- There's so many different
stories at this point.
634
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:20,332
- So many different sto--
- Between the cops,
635
00:30:20,432 --> 00:30:21,733
private investigator,
and now this,
636
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,101
there's so many
different stories.
637
00:30:23,168 --> 00:30:24,836
(Matt) I was expecting it
to say overdose,
638
00:30:24,903 --> 00:30:26,304
'cause that's what
we were told the whole time.
639
00:30:26,438 --> 00:30:29,007
Even the PI told us
he overdosed,
640
00:30:29,074 --> 00:30:30,442
he didn't feel nothing.
641
00:30:30,508 --> 00:30:33,645
- I called the detective
who was assigned to the case,
642
00:30:33,712 --> 00:30:36,748
he knew exactly the case,
it was deemed an overdose.
643
00:30:36,815 --> 00:30:38,450
There'd be nothing
in that report
644
00:30:38,516 --> 00:30:41,453
that's gonna say something
majorly different.
645
00:30:41,486 --> 00:30:42,821
At the end of the day,
646
00:30:42,888 --> 00:30:44,489
the cause of the death
is the cause of death.
647
00:30:44,556 --> 00:30:46,591
(Matt) Meanwhile,
the death certificate,
648
00:30:46,658 --> 00:30:48,660
it was empty, which was
very strange to us.
649
00:30:48,727 --> 00:30:50,529
Then we get the ME report,
650
00:30:50,595 --> 00:30:52,931
and it says
suicide hanging.
651
00:30:52,998 --> 00:30:54,466
So what exactly went on?
652
00:30:54,533 --> 00:30:56,067
- I didn't think
hanging because
653
00:30:56,134 --> 00:30:58,403
he would've broke the beam,
and his feet hit the floor.
654
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:59,804
- Too big to be hanging
himself from there.
655
00:30:59,871 --> 00:31:01,640
- Where was he found?
- Sitting right here.
656
00:31:01,706 --> 00:31:03,241
- On the bucket.
- So he was sitting,
657
00:31:03,308 --> 00:31:05,010
leaning forward with this
tied around his neck.
658
00:31:05,076 --> 00:31:07,412
And I thought it was weird,
that wire doesn't tie.
659
00:31:07,412 --> 00:31:08,547
You can't tie it.
- Right.
660
00:31:08,613 --> 00:31:10,815
(Jess)
For Billy to try and take
661
00:31:10,882 --> 00:31:12,417
his own life using cable wire,
662
00:31:12,417 --> 00:31:14,719
it cannot be tied into a knot
and stay into a knot.
663
00:31:14,786 --> 00:31:17,789
It's just so heavy and thick,
it just opens up on its own.
664
00:31:17,856 --> 00:31:19,191
What'd, he hopped up there...
665
00:31:19,257 --> 00:31:21,092
- All in the dark.
- All in the dark, right.
666
00:31:21,159 --> 00:31:23,595
I keep forgetting
in the pitch black.
667
00:31:25,931 --> 00:31:28,800
(Jess) He was able to go into
a completely dark room,
668
00:31:28,867 --> 00:31:32,237
tie a cable wire into
a knot, make it so it could,
669
00:31:32,304 --> 00:31:34,439
I guess however he supposedly
hung himself,
670
00:31:34,472 --> 00:31:36,107
doesn't make sense to me
whatsoever.
671
00:31:36,174 --> 00:31:38,743
- He was completely naked
and one sock on.
672
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:41,079
Now, come on,
if Daddy's gonna do that,
673
00:31:41,146 --> 00:31:43,448
he's gonna not let me, you
or Matthew come in the house
674
00:31:43,515 --> 00:31:44,950
and find him naked.
- Find him that way, no.
675
00:31:45,016 --> 00:31:47,786
- It just doesn't make sense.
- Absolutely not.
676
00:31:48,853 --> 00:31:50,488
- I feel sorry
for Daddy, though.
677
00:31:50,555 --> 00:31:51,957
He's not really resting in peace
678
00:31:52,023 --> 00:31:53,825
that we're still talking
on this, you know?
679
00:31:53,892 --> 00:31:55,293
- Going on two years now.
680
00:31:55,393 --> 00:31:57,762
There's no peace,
there's no nothing right now.
681
00:31:57,829 --> 00:31:59,998
- It's a mystery, it really is.
682
00:32:00,065 --> 00:32:02,200
(Jess) I don't think the kids
will ever find peace
683
00:32:02,267 --> 00:32:04,703
unless they find out something
to make this make sense,
684
00:32:04,769 --> 00:32:05,904
'cause right now
it makes no sense.
685
00:32:05,971 --> 00:32:07,138
To any of us, we have no idea
686
00:32:07,205 --> 00:32:08,540
what the hell happened
that night.
687
00:32:08,607 --> 00:32:10,775
Nothing that was
told to us makes sense.
688
00:32:10,842 --> 00:32:13,411
- Crazy, crazy, crazy.
- Crazy.
689
00:32:13,478 --> 00:32:17,148
♪♪
690
00:32:21,394 --> 00:32:26,466
♪♪
691
00:32:29,102 --> 00:32:31,704
- Nice you here.
692
00:32:31,771 --> 00:32:33,273
(Eli) For my future,
I don't wanna look
693
00:32:33,339 --> 00:32:38,378
towards my past and seeing
all the negativity and drama
694
00:32:38,444 --> 00:32:42,348
and problems that my father
caused for us as a family.
695
00:32:42,415 --> 00:32:44,484
So I wanna learn from
all the mistakes
696
00:32:44,550 --> 00:32:46,719
to make sure those
mistakes don't happen.
697
00:32:46,786 --> 00:32:50,456
And to enjoy... life.
- Life.
698
00:33:06,272 --> 00:33:09,576
(Angela)
If he gonna give me
the divorce quietly
699
00:33:09,642 --> 00:33:14,247
and he will not gonna talk
about his family bad,
700
00:33:14,314 --> 00:33:15,915
everything gonna be good.
701
00:33:15,982 --> 00:33:18,551
But if something happens
differently,
702
00:33:18,618 --> 00:33:21,454
it's gonna be a bomb.
703
00:33:25,491 --> 00:33:29,095
Boris.
704
00:33:29,162 --> 00:33:30,463
Boris.
705
00:33:30,463 --> 00:33:33,032
(man chuckling)
706
00:33:34,767 --> 00:33:36,970
(all speaking Russian)
707
00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:47,614
♪♪
708
00:33:55,255 --> 00:33:56,556
I'm the boss now.
709
00:33:56,623 --> 00:33:59,225
We change position now,
710
00:33:59,292 --> 00:34:02,161
so I'm taking over.
711
00:34:02,228 --> 00:34:03,730
That's it.
712
00:34:07,033 --> 00:34:11,037
♪♪
713
00:34:14,207 --> 00:34:19,045
♪♪
714
00:34:20,446 --> 00:34:23,116
(Billy Jr.) When the plane
landed in New York,
715
00:34:23,182 --> 00:34:25,551
I felt 20 years younger.
716
00:34:25,618 --> 00:34:28,755
And it takes you back
to your childhood.
717
00:34:28,821 --> 00:34:31,691
You think about it,
it's like, wow.
718
00:34:31,758 --> 00:34:34,727
(deep breath)
I do miss it.
719
00:34:34,794 --> 00:34:39,265
I'm excited to see where
our lives are going.
720
00:34:39,332 --> 00:34:42,168
I just wanna make sure that
we have that front row seat
721
00:34:42,235 --> 00:34:43,570
to watch our kids.
722
00:34:43,636 --> 00:34:45,371
(Nahla)
I didn't think our life
723
00:34:45,471 --> 00:34:46,873
would be the way it is.
724
00:34:46,940 --> 00:34:48,541
It took a while for me
to get to a place
725
00:34:48,608 --> 00:34:50,877
where I can slow down.
726
00:34:50,944 --> 00:34:53,146
I learned so much
in the last two years,
727
00:34:53,212 --> 00:34:55,582
you know, stages of life,
people go through,
728
00:34:55,648 --> 00:34:58,651
and things happen
and you change.
729
00:34:58,718 --> 00:35:01,821
- It's exciting to
finally not feel like
730
00:35:01,888 --> 00:35:04,958
we're surviving,
but we're really all able
731
00:35:05,024 --> 00:35:08,661
to take the steps we need
to start living.
732
00:35:08,728 --> 00:35:10,563
I was worried about losing
control of my life,
733
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:13,533
and I feel a lot more confident
734
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,501
that I'm able to
handle myself now,
735
00:35:15,535 --> 00:35:18,504
knowing that I have like,
six people that I can call upon
736
00:35:18,538 --> 00:35:22,242
at any given time and know that
they're gonna be there.
737
00:35:22,308 --> 00:35:24,177
- Even though this
case is stressful,
738
00:35:24,244 --> 00:35:28,748
I feel like it made a lot
of positive impact on my family.
739
00:35:28,815 --> 00:35:32,085
It's easier to laugh,
it's easier to just talk
740
00:35:32,151 --> 00:35:34,587
and be ourselves and not have
to worry, I guess,
741
00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:38,925
about what anyone has to say
because we have each other.
742
00:35:38,992 --> 00:35:40,326
♪♪
743
00:35:43,129 --> 00:35:48,134
♪♪
744
00:35:51,938 --> 00:35:54,073
- We got rice balls,
come on.
745
00:35:54,140 --> 00:35:56,209
Sandwiches,
all these right here.
746
00:35:56,276 --> 00:35:57,877
- Ah!
747
00:35:57,944 --> 00:35:59,913
- You're spilling it
on the chips!
748
00:35:59,979 --> 00:36:01,514
- That's all right.
749
00:36:01,581 --> 00:36:03,283
Nobody likes chips anyway.
750
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:04,851
- I am happy that Christian
751
00:36:04,918 --> 00:36:06,219
has a relationship
with his mother.
752
00:36:06,286 --> 00:36:08,855
Regardless of what
she did in the past,
753
00:36:08,922 --> 00:36:11,824
that's over and done with
and he needs his mom.
754
00:36:11,891 --> 00:36:13,693
Whatever we could do,
get the family together,
755
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,295
we'll do it for him.
756
00:36:15,361 --> 00:36:18,231
- Anybody that's gonna take him
off my hands for a minute...
757
00:36:18,298 --> 00:36:20,800
- You're an (bleep).
758
00:36:20,867 --> 00:36:23,002
- I love this right now,
literally love this right now.
759
00:36:23,069 --> 00:36:24,170
- I know, you're in your
element right now.
760
00:36:24,237 --> 00:36:25,805
- Mm-hmm.
- I know you are.
761
00:36:25,872 --> 00:36:27,240
That's the way it should be.
762
00:36:27,307 --> 00:36:28,975
(Gina)
Listen, I've given my son
763
00:36:29,042 --> 00:36:31,144
a lot to prove myself
that I am here,
764
00:36:31,210 --> 00:36:33,713
and he is opening more,
he's calling me more,
765
00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:35,715
and I love it, I love it.
766
00:36:35,782 --> 00:36:37,617
- Right here, like this,
767
00:36:37,684 --> 00:36:40,620
boom, boom, and then
you swing through.
768
00:36:40,687 --> 00:36:44,257
Lemme see. Ooh!
769
00:36:44,324 --> 00:36:45,558
(door opens)
770
00:36:45,625 --> 00:36:47,293
- You know, my kids
being around him more,
771
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,797
and then Charles being able
to be around here,
772
00:36:50,863 --> 00:36:52,932
and then Big Christian, like,
773
00:36:52,999 --> 00:36:56,836
it made me happy 'cause
that's all I ever wanted.
774
00:36:56,903 --> 00:36:58,371
- Charles, you did that?
775
00:36:58,471 --> 00:37:00,273
(laughter)
776
00:37:00,340 --> 00:37:01,608
- How you gonna lose?
777
00:37:01,674 --> 00:37:04,010
(overlapping chatter)
778
00:37:04,077 --> 00:37:05,378
(Christian)
I love my family more than
779
00:37:05,478 --> 00:37:06,579
anything in the world.
780
00:37:06,646 --> 00:37:08,014
Other than my father
being sick,
781
00:37:08,081 --> 00:37:09,082
I'm always optimistic,
782
00:37:09,148 --> 00:37:10,617
I know that he's
gonna get better
783
00:37:10,683 --> 00:37:12,552
he's strong as an ox,
he's a fighter,
784
00:37:12,619 --> 00:37:13,953
he's gonna beat that.
785
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:15,788
Sometimes the bad
catches up with you
786
00:37:15,855 --> 00:37:17,590
and you have your little
panic attacks,
787
00:37:17,657 --> 00:37:18,925
but there's always
good there too.
788
00:37:18,992 --> 00:37:20,927
- The LaRoccas.
- The LaRoccas now.
789
00:37:20,994 --> 00:37:23,529
(overlapping chatter)
790
00:37:23,596 --> 00:37:26,299
♪♪
791
00:37:29,335 --> 00:37:34,774
♪♪
792
00:37:35,875 --> 00:37:37,777
(Karina)
Visiting Xavier, it brought back
793
00:37:37,844 --> 00:37:39,979
memories to me when I would
visit my father,
794
00:37:40,046 --> 00:37:42,215
and I never really understood,
but now looking back,
795
00:37:42,282 --> 00:37:45,051
it's like, to be there
with him and...
796
00:37:45,118 --> 00:37:47,487
and to have a conversation
meant a lot.
797
00:37:47,553 --> 00:37:49,255
(Karen) He wants to come home
and live with his kids
798
00:37:49,322 --> 00:37:51,925
and make up for lost time,
it's just like
799
00:37:51,991 --> 00:37:53,793
the simple things that
sometimes you talk about
800
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:55,261
that you take for granted.
801
00:37:55,328 --> 00:37:58,765
It could be just walking
on a beach,
802
00:37:58,831 --> 00:37:59,999
feeling sand under your feet.
803
00:38:00,066 --> 00:38:01,467
We'll talk about
crazy things
804
00:38:01,534 --> 00:38:04,203
like going grocery shopping,
it's the simplest thing.
805
00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:06,506
He just wants
to be human again
806
00:38:06,573 --> 00:38:07,740
and come home and have a life.
807
00:38:07,807 --> 00:38:10,043
♪♪
808
00:38:14,714 --> 00:38:19,152
♪♪
809
00:38:25,425 --> 00:38:28,261
- There's only one Karina.
Right, Karina?
810
00:38:28,328 --> 00:38:30,563
- Exactly.
- And she got your house robbed.
811
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:33,233
- Yes!
- No, I didn't get
your house robbed.
812
00:38:33,299 --> 00:38:35,201
- No matter what my family
has been through,
813
00:38:35,268 --> 00:38:39,472
one thing I could say
is we never left each other.
814
00:38:39,539 --> 00:38:43,243
We could still get together
and laugh now, and smile,
815
00:38:43,309 --> 00:38:46,279
and bond, and be able
to have that love.
816
00:38:46,346 --> 00:38:48,615
(Karen) We're still
so connected, we're one.
817
00:38:48,681 --> 00:38:52,318
It's something that I can say
I'm blessed to have.
818
00:38:52,452 --> 00:38:55,521
- Happy birthday.
- Thank you.
819
00:38:55,588 --> 00:38:58,224
You know, that word "love",
it's four letters.
820
00:38:58,291 --> 00:38:59,525
It's a big word.
821
00:38:59,592 --> 00:39:01,461
We have respect
for one another,
822
00:39:01,527 --> 00:39:04,197
if somebody got in trouble,
we were there.
823
00:39:04,264 --> 00:39:06,299
And that's what
I found with my family.
824
00:39:06,366 --> 00:39:07,467
We have children,
825
00:39:07,467 --> 00:39:09,469
we have grandchildren.
826
00:39:09,535 --> 00:39:12,305
My life was full of love.
827
00:39:12,372 --> 00:39:15,241
♪♪
828
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:25,018
♪♪
829
00:39:30,623 --> 00:39:32,425
- I wouldn't wanna be
part of any other family
830
00:39:32,458 --> 00:39:33,760
besides the one I'm in
right now.
831
00:39:33,826 --> 00:39:34,928
I love you guys.
832
00:39:34,994 --> 00:39:36,896
I love Joe,
cheers to us.
833
00:39:36,963 --> 00:39:38,431
- Cheers, cheers, cheers.
834
00:39:38,464 --> 00:39:39,832
- I love my family.
835
00:39:39,899 --> 00:39:41,167
(baby cooing)
836
00:39:41,234 --> 00:39:43,202
(Jess)
Me and the kids, you know,
837
00:39:43,269 --> 00:39:44,537
we're walking this
path together,
838
00:39:44,604 --> 00:39:46,172
we're doing it together,
and if we all just
839
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,941
come together and
we respect each other,
840
00:39:48,007 --> 00:39:49,976
we'll be all right at
the end of the day.
841
00:39:51,945 --> 00:39:53,346
- I'm so thankful
to have you guys.
842
00:39:53,446 --> 00:39:55,715
Even now when like,
just a newcoming mom,
843
00:39:55,782 --> 00:39:58,117
like, I really don't even know,
I tell them all the time,
844
00:39:58,184 --> 00:39:59,485
what I would do without you.
845
00:39:59,552 --> 00:40:01,921
- That's my job.
846
00:40:01,988 --> 00:40:04,891
- A lot of chaos
has went on in my life,
847
00:40:04,958 --> 00:40:07,327
and there were times where
it was nonstop.
848
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:10,530
So I think for my life
and the life I'm building,
849
00:40:10,597 --> 00:40:11,831
I just want calm.
850
00:40:11,898 --> 00:40:13,099
- We've been through a lot.
851
00:40:13,166 --> 00:40:14,267
As a family, we've been
through a lot
852
00:40:14,334 --> 00:40:15,935
and it made us better people.
853
00:40:16,002 --> 00:40:17,904
After my dad passed,
854
00:40:17,971 --> 00:40:20,073
I kinda developed a wall
with my emotions
855
00:40:20,139 --> 00:40:22,141
and the situation.
856
00:40:22,208 --> 00:40:25,011
I'm happy that I keep
trying to figure it out.
857
00:40:25,078 --> 00:40:28,248
But at the same time,
it's draining to
858
00:40:28,314 --> 00:40:30,450
my mental state to
keep living it
859
00:40:30,516 --> 00:40:32,485
over and over again and
not getting anywhere.
860
00:40:32,552 --> 00:40:36,089
♪♪
861
00:40:39,892 --> 00:40:43,529
(muttering)
862
00:40:43,596 --> 00:40:45,064
- Good?
- Yep.
863
00:40:48,568 --> 00:40:54,841
- You know, I see my kids
having kids and having family.
864
00:40:54,908 --> 00:40:57,644
- Hey.
- I love them to death,
865
00:40:57,710 --> 00:41:02,515
I really hope that they're
going in the right direction.
866
00:41:02,582 --> 00:41:06,819
All I want for my kids is
to truly have a happy life.
867
00:41:06,886 --> 00:41:13,092
♪♪
868
00:41:20,890 --> 00:41:24,894
♪♪