1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:33,814 Okay. 4 00:00:37,351 --> 00:00:39,953 So I wanna begin with a... with a simple question: 5 00:00:39,987 --> 00:00:42,923 you've been pursuing justice all your life, 6 00:00:42,957 --> 00:00:45,759 you've been singing about justice all your life. 7 00:00:45,792 --> 00:00:46,927 Right. 8 00:00:48,529 --> 00:00:51,667 So, can music change the world? 9 00:01:02,844 --> 00:01:06,614 In 2015, System of a Down played our first show in 10 00:01:06,647 --> 00:01:07,816 Armenia. 11 00:01:11,686 --> 00:01:14,323 We were so excited to perform for our people. 12 00:01:18,893 --> 00:01:22,331 But there was something that was really gnawing at me. 13 00:01:22,664 --> 00:01:25,667 I knew that Armenia's government was corrupt to the core and 14 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:27,668 needed to change. 15 00:01:27,701 --> 00:01:30,671 And the country's biggest square was filling up with people 16 00:01:30,704 --> 00:01:33,807 waiting to hear what we had to say. 17 00:01:36,144 --> 00:01:38,013 Before the show... 18 00:01:38,646 --> 00:01:41,817 I had this sense of calmness that is rare. 19 00:01:42,483 --> 00:01:45,819 And I just looked at the guys and it almost felt like we 20 00:01:45,852 --> 00:01:48,522 were... created... 21 00:01:48,555 --> 00:01:49,656 to play that night. 22 00:01:49,689 --> 00:01:51,825 We've come a long way, Armenia. 23 00:01:51,858 --> 00:01:53,994 But there's still a lot of fucking work to do. 24 00:01:57,531 --> 00:02:00,501 I didn't know how long it would take for the reversal 25 00:02:00,534 --> 00:02:02,370 of fortunes. 26 00:02:02,703 --> 00:02:03,838 But I knew that it was coming. 27 00:02:03,871 --> 00:02:08,009 We are System of a Down, and it's our responsibility... 28 00:02:08,376 --> 00:02:12,013 to tell you these things and to rock you at the same time. 29 00:02:22,789 --> 00:02:26,593 The Armenian hard rockers System of a Down are political 30 00:02:26,627 --> 00:02:27,528 and popular. 31 00:02:27,562 --> 00:02:28,997 They're a damn good rock and roll band! 32 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:30,765 System of a Down! 33 00:02:31,932 --> 00:02:32,933 The Grammy Award-winning band... 34 00:02:32,967 --> 00:02:35,170 Sold nearly 20 million CDs. 35 00:02:35,203 --> 00:02:37,171 Propelled by the powerful band, 36 00:02:37,205 --> 00:02:38,440 frontman Serj Tankian... 37 00:02:38,473 --> 00:02:40,875 Serj Tankian has emerged as a voice of 38 00:02:40,907 --> 00:02:42,876 justice for the Armenian people. 39 00:02:42,909 --> 00:02:45,180 My grandfather's a survivor of the Armenian genocide. 40 00:02:45,212 --> 00:02:47,715 Calling on the world to recognize the forgotten 41 00:02:47,747 --> 00:02:52,554 Armenian genocide of 1915, but also taking on Armenia's own 42 00:02:52,586 --> 00:02:53,687 government. 43 00:02:53,722 --> 00:02:56,090 The people are out there, tired of a corrupt regime, 44 00:02:56,122 --> 00:02:57,925 and they want it to change. 45 00:02:57,959 --> 00:03:00,093 And calling on his millions of fans... 46 00:03:01,962 --> 00:03:03,163 to bring down the system. 47 00:03:03,198 --> 00:03:06,034 Continue your path of peaceful resistance and don't fall into 48 00:03:06,067 --> 00:03:08,102 the traps of provocateurs. 49 00:03:51,711 --> 00:03:54,248 This is our living room, and, uh, we're surrounded 50 00:03:54,282 --> 00:03:58,286 by trees and... and love living amongst them. 51 00:03:58,318 --> 00:04:01,955 Because of touring, I... I don't get a lot of time to relax on 52 00:04:01,989 --> 00:04:05,126 the road, so when I come home, I like being in a silent place. 53 00:04:05,626 --> 00:04:08,795 So we've got, uh, a Grammy here. 54 00:04:08,829 --> 00:04:10,831 "System of a Down... 55 00:04:11,064 --> 00:04:14,502 B.Y.O.B, Best Hard Rock Performance." 56 00:04:14,836 --> 00:04:18,172 They used to be downstairs in my office but that turned into our 57 00:04:18,204 --> 00:04:20,173 son's room so... 58 00:04:20,206 --> 00:04:21,976 now they hang out here. 59 00:04:22,709 --> 00:04:23,877 All right. 60 00:04:23,911 --> 00:04:25,180 So that's the closet. 61 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:27,649 Music was always important to me. 62 00:04:27,682 --> 00:04:31,019 Um, you know, I listened to music at home as a kid. 63 00:04:31,052 --> 00:04:33,987 Let's see what's in here. 64 00:04:34,021 --> 00:04:37,324 But I've been writing poetry longer than I've been playing 65 00:04:37,358 --> 00:04:38,192 music. 66 00:04:38,225 --> 00:04:39,027 So this is '97. 67 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:41,028 January 8, '97. 68 00:04:41,062 --> 00:04:44,831 So this is... this must be the year we got signed with System. 69 00:04:44,865 --> 00:04:47,335 Poetry, to me, was very important because it was a way 70 00:04:47,367 --> 00:04:50,671 of reaching the truth without necessarily, 71 00:04:50,704 --> 00:04:52,873 uh, reasonable prose. 72 00:04:53,206 --> 00:04:56,076 I had a habit of writing every night before I went to sleep. 73 00:04:56,110 --> 00:04:58,179 That's why a lot of it, I've converted into lyrics. 74 00:04:58,211 --> 00:05:01,081 Oh, here's... here's a... here's an early System song that no 75 00:05:01,115 --> 00:05:03,050 one's ever heard because we've never released it. 76 00:05:03,084 --> 00:05:04,218 It's called "Friik." 77 00:05:05,249 --> 00:05:06,687 F-R-double I-K. 78 00:05:06,721 --> 00:05:07,922 So it goes, "What's my problem? 79 00:05:07,954 --> 00:05:08,889 Here's my problem. 80 00:05:08,923 --> 00:05:11,024 My problem is that I'm too visual to be blind, 81 00:05:11,057 --> 00:05:14,695 too audiological to be deaf, too idealogical to be in peace, 82 00:05:14,728 --> 00:05:17,699 too compassionate to be in war, too crazy to be sane, 83 00:05:17,732 --> 00:05:21,202 too sane to be lazy, too emotional to be you." 84 00:05:24,939 --> 00:05:27,040 It's kind of interesting because when I first started music, 85 00:05:27,074 --> 00:05:30,745 I had no idea of where I would end up. 86 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,637 My own family came here to Los Angeles, 87 00:05:55,670 --> 00:05:58,239 migrated in 1975. 88 00:05:58,271 --> 00:06:00,240 You can see some of the signs, uh, 89 00:06:00,274 --> 00:06:01,809 written in Armenian. 90 00:06:01,841 --> 00:06:05,145 You can see a sign that says "Little Armenia"... 91 00:06:05,346 --> 00:06:06,213 here. 92 00:06:06,247 --> 00:06:06,913 Where? 93 00:06:06,947 --> 00:06:08,281 I don't see it. 94 00:06:08,314 --> 00:06:10,819 Um, trust me, it's Little Armenia. 95 00:06:11,485 --> 00:06:12,986 Right in the middle of Hollywood, 96 00:06:13,019 --> 00:06:15,255 the Armenian community had a school, 97 00:06:15,288 --> 00:06:18,259 a church, different cafes, bakeries, 98 00:06:18,291 --> 00:06:19,259 restaurants. 99 00:06:19,293 --> 00:06:20,261 - Hey! - Hey! 100 00:06:20,293 --> 00:06:21,495 - How are you, bro? - Hey, Serj. 101 00:06:21,528 --> 00:06:23,764 You know, it was... it was a settlement with Armenians 102 00:06:23,798 --> 00:06:24,966 from all over the world. Very good! 103 00:06:24,999 --> 00:06:25,833 - How's everything? - Good. 104 00:06:25,865 --> 00:06:26,433 Good to see you. 105 00:06:26,466 --> 00:06:27,401 Very good! 106 00:06:34,442 --> 00:06:37,012 You know, the different foods... 107 00:06:38,146 --> 00:06:41,149 the smells that you'd get walking on Hollywood Boulevard 108 00:06:41,182 --> 00:06:42,316 or Fountain... 109 00:06:42,348 --> 00:06:43,817 I mean, look at this. 110 00:06:43,850 --> 00:06:44,685 It's like heaven. 111 00:06:44,718 --> 00:06:45,920 Gata. 112 00:06:45,954 --> 00:06:48,790 Or the yelling on the streets and... and honking for someone to 113 00:06:48,822 --> 00:06:50,290 come down. 114 00:06:50,824 --> 00:06:54,829 All of those are kind of a really beautiful tapestry in... 115 00:06:54,862 --> 00:06:56,898 in my mind as a child. 116 00:06:58,365 --> 00:06:59,266 Mm. 117 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:00,802 Wow. 118 00:07:00,834 --> 00:07:01,368 That's good. 119 00:07:01,401 --> 00:07:02,302 That looks good, too. 120 00:07:02,336 --> 00:07:03,271 I'm gonna try the same one. 121 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:06,473 When my parents came here, they had zero money and 122 00:07:06,507 --> 00:07:08,475 they did not neglect our education. 123 00:07:08,509 --> 00:07:11,846 From day one, they put us in Armenian school. 124 00:07:12,512 --> 00:07:16,316 And within that community, I made a lot of great friends. 125 00:07:19,386 --> 00:07:21,322 After graduating high school, 126 00:07:21,355 --> 00:07:24,725 I got accepted to Cal State University Northridge. 127 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:27,161 At the time, I didn't really know what I wanted to do as a 128 00:07:27,194 --> 00:07:30,198 career, so I thought I'd do business. 129 00:07:30,865 --> 00:07:33,334 It's while I was going to university that I got a small 130 00:07:33,367 --> 00:07:37,237 Casio keyboard and started playing it as a way to kind of 131 00:07:37,271 --> 00:07:41,342 relieve my senses from my mind always working, 132 00:07:41,375 --> 00:07:44,245 whether it was on studies or what was going on with the rest 133 00:07:44,278 --> 00:07:46,715 of my life at the time. 134 00:07:47,214 --> 00:07:49,216 I was always very rational, very studious, 135 00:07:49,250 --> 00:07:53,019 very... kind of thinking and the studying mind. 136 00:07:53,052 --> 00:07:56,223 But once I started doing music, I realized that the right side 137 00:07:56,257 --> 00:08:00,360 of my brain can really take off. 138 00:08:07,134 --> 00:08:09,036 The first band that I ever played in, 139 00:08:09,069 --> 00:08:10,371 uh, was called Forever Young. 140 00:08:10,403 --> 00:08:12,038 I started playing keyboards with them. 141 00:08:14,574 --> 00:08:16,877 The one and only show that we ever played was 142 00:08:16,911 --> 00:08:19,881 at the Armenian Cultural Center in Hollywood. 143 00:08:23,416 --> 00:08:24,617 It was an interesting start, 144 00:08:24,651 --> 00:08:27,387 'cause first of all, we were doing songs in English and in 145 00:08:27,420 --> 00:08:28,923 Armenian. 146 00:08:32,293 --> 00:08:34,427 'Cause that really was our lives as young 147 00:08:34,461 --> 00:08:37,264 Armenian-Americans growing up in Los Angeles. 148 00:08:37,298 --> 00:08:40,802 You know, we were a part of both cultures simultaneously. 149 00:08:46,472 --> 00:08:47,574 So while in Forever Young, 150 00:08:47,607 --> 00:08:51,378 we... we were sharing a rehearsal space with another band, 151 00:08:51,412 --> 00:08:54,081 ano... uh, a bunch of friends of ours. 152 00:08:54,114 --> 00:08:57,451 And at one point, they brought in a new guitarist, 153 00:08:57,484 --> 00:08:59,253 and that was Daron Malakian. 154 00:09:03,490 --> 00:09:05,326 The first time we actually worked together was 155 00:09:05,359 --> 00:09:07,829 on a song called "Waco Jesus." 156 00:09:07,861 --> 00:09:10,331 It's a song that we both co-wrote along with the guys 157 00:09:10,364 --> 00:09:11,599 from Forever Young. 158 00:09:16,604 --> 00:09:20,441 And it's the first song I ever recorded as a vocalist. 159 00:09:20,474 --> 00:09:23,477 And the reason I sang on it was our singer wasn't around to sing 160 00:09:23,509 --> 00:09:26,146 and... and I had written the lyrics already for it. 161 00:09:31,552 --> 00:09:34,487 So after working on the song with Daron, 162 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,024 we clicked. 163 00:09:36,323 --> 00:09:38,959 Dave Hakopyan was our bassist in both bands, 164 00:09:38,993 --> 00:09:41,329 so he joined us as our bassist. 165 00:09:41,361 --> 00:09:42,296 - Is it recording? - Yeah. 166 00:09:42,330 --> 00:09:45,032 And formed a band called Soil. 167 00:09:45,065 --> 00:09:46,501 ♪ Why can't you ♪ 168 00:09:48,168 --> 00:09:50,171 ♪ Look at me... ♪ 169 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:52,973 Soil was around for eight months. 170 00:09:53,006 --> 00:09:56,509 And it's in Soil that I started developing my chops. 171 00:09:56,543 --> 00:09:58,446 I was, like, going for anything. 172 00:09:58,479 --> 00:09:59,980 Why did you guys play it so fast, 173 00:10:00,014 --> 00:10:01,349 man? 174 00:10:01,916 --> 00:10:03,517 I was playing music at nights, but still, 175 00:10:03,549 --> 00:10:07,221 I wouldn't admit to myself that that was my calling. 176 00:10:07,254 --> 00:10:10,157 And after university, uh, started working with my uncle in 177 00:10:10,190 --> 00:10:12,526 the jewelry business in downtown LA. 178 00:10:12,558 --> 00:10:16,062 You know, uh, doing trade shows and being on the calls, 179 00:10:16,096 --> 00:10:17,565 taking orders. 180 00:10:17,998 --> 00:10:22,003 And a few years in, I was... I was really disgruntled. 181 00:10:22,035 --> 00:10:23,904 I'm like, "This is not my vision. 182 00:10:23,937 --> 00:10:25,874 This is not my path." 183 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,174 After a long day of work downtown, 184 00:10:28,207 --> 00:10:31,511 I drove to Long Beach, uh, to take these Kaplan classes to, 185 00:10:31,544 --> 00:10:34,548 uh, learn how to take the L-SAT, and I realized I had zero 186 00:10:34,581 --> 00:10:38,085 enthusiasm for the legal field, even though I thought I could do 187 00:10:38,118 --> 00:10:39,253 it, you know? 188 00:10:39,285 --> 00:10:44,291 And I remember going once or twice and it was horrible. 189 00:10:45,525 --> 00:10:47,527 I... I... I didn't know what I was doing there. 190 00:10:47,561 --> 00:10:48,596 I was fuckin' depressed. 191 00:10:48,629 --> 00:10:51,065 It was really late at night, raining like crazy, 192 00:10:51,097 --> 00:10:52,432 and I had an epiphany, I just... 193 00:10:52,466 --> 00:10:53,366 I got overwhelmed. 194 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,069 My subconscious literally took over. 195 00:10:56,102 --> 00:10:58,072 I slammed on the... on the brakes. 196 00:10:58,105 --> 00:11:01,408 I started hitting my dashboard and going "I wanna fucking do 197 00:11:01,442 --> 00:11:01,942 music. 198 00:11:01,975 --> 00:11:03,378 Fuck all this shit." 199 00:11:06,113 --> 00:11:08,549 And from there, my life changed. 200 00:11:13,754 --> 00:11:15,956 603, take two, common mark. 201 00:11:15,990 --> 00:11:17,424 Ouch. 202 00:11:17,457 --> 00:11:19,726 I was playing in a band... 203 00:11:19,759 --> 00:11:23,530 off of Verdugo in Burbank at Nightingale Studios where Serj 204 00:11:23,563 --> 00:11:25,466 was at, so that's where I met Serj. 205 00:11:25,499 --> 00:11:28,002 I kind of saw him as a keyboard player. 206 00:11:28,335 --> 00:11:30,437 He was always, like, the elder and he had businesses and he was 207 00:11:30,471 --> 00:11:31,371 doing other things. 208 00:11:31,405 --> 00:11:33,274 He's always done too many... a lot of things. 209 00:11:33,307 --> 00:11:34,008 I said "too many." 210 00:11:34,041 --> 00:11:35,576 He's always done a lot of things. 211 00:11:38,479 --> 00:11:41,749 Two weeks later, I get a call from their bass player, 212 00:11:41,782 --> 00:11:43,451 Dave, and he's like, "You know, I'm not gonna be in the band 213 00:11:43,484 --> 00:11:44,619 anymore. 214 00:11:44,652 --> 00:11:46,988 I don't know if... I think they want to play with you." 215 00:11:47,654 --> 00:11:49,957 And I'm like, "What do you mean 'play with me?'" 216 00:11:50,291 --> 00:11:52,994 A couple of days... a couple of weeks passed and... 217 00:11:53,027 --> 00:11:55,162 we talked and we said, "We're gonna do a different band. 218 00:11:55,195 --> 00:11:55,796 We're not doing Soil. 219 00:11:55,828 --> 00:11:56,496 We're not continuing Soil. 220 00:11:56,529 --> 00:11:59,165 Soil is... Soil was what it was. 221 00:11:59,198 --> 00:12:00,633 We're gonna go somewhere else with me. 222 00:12:00,667 --> 00:12:02,470 And we'll find a drummer." 223 00:12:02,503 --> 00:12:04,205 So, it was on. 224 00:12:05,172 --> 00:12:07,341 Daron's always been a great songwriter. 225 00:12:07,374 --> 00:12:09,744 I was bringing in the lyrics, Shavo would bring in a riff or 226 00:12:09,777 --> 00:12:11,079 two. 227 00:12:11,111 --> 00:12:14,514 But I can tell you, I remember the day when John first played 228 00:12:14,548 --> 00:12:15,750 with us. 229 00:12:15,783 --> 00:12:19,153 System of a Down's sound went from this... 230 00:12:19,186 --> 00:12:20,187 to this. 231 00:12:20,220 --> 00:12:21,654 Praise the Lord! 232 00:12:21,687 --> 00:12:24,290 Pass the ammunition! 233 00:12:24,323 --> 00:12:26,359 God wants you to go to war. 234 00:12:44,410 --> 00:12:45,779 Being that we're all Armenian, 235 00:12:45,812 --> 00:12:47,648 it is pretty unique, you know? 236 00:12:47,681 --> 00:12:50,551 Um, not too many people knew what Armenians were, 237 00:12:50,583 --> 00:12:52,786 especially in the United States at that time. 238 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:55,056 Uh, there were no Kardashians yet. 239 00:12:59,359 --> 00:13:02,163 It wasn't just a band playing music. 240 00:13:02,196 --> 00:13:06,533 It was a musical cause taking the stage. 241 00:13:06,567 --> 00:13:10,104 And Serj came with a chip on his shoulder. 242 00:13:15,109 --> 00:13:18,179 Once you're onstage, I've called it the "truth serum" in a 243 00:13:18,211 --> 00:13:20,814 way, because I don't think about what I'm going to say, 244 00:13:20,847 --> 00:13:22,682 how I'm going to say it. 245 00:13:22,716 --> 00:13:25,086 I just open my mouth and it comes out. 246 00:13:35,797 --> 00:13:38,533 But all of it comes from a personal place. 247 00:13:45,239 --> 00:13:47,541 One of the songs that I remember from my childhood very 248 00:13:47,573 --> 00:13:51,111 vividly is a song that my dad used to always sing. 249 00:13:51,412 --> 00:13:53,648 A song called "Bari Aragil." 250 00:14:03,423 --> 00:14:05,692 As a kid, I didn't know what the lyrics meant. 251 00:14:05,725 --> 00:14:10,431 "Bari aragil," uh, literally translated means "kind stork." 252 00:14:10,464 --> 00:14:14,268 And the stork is known as the bird that returns home. 253 00:14:14,301 --> 00:14:18,772 And so, um, it's been used as a symbolism for Armenians that 254 00:14:18,804 --> 00:14:21,774 want to return home because most Armenians are diasporan 255 00:14:21,807 --> 00:14:22,942 Armenians. 256 00:14:22,975 --> 00:14:26,246 Most Armenians have lived outside of the homeland. 257 00:14:28,347 --> 00:14:29,916 The reason that the Armenian community is spread 258 00:14:29,950 --> 00:14:33,521 around the world is because of the genocide. 259 00:14:33,953 --> 00:14:36,456 During the first World War, the Ottomans committed their 260 00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:38,325 atrocities, there was a genocide, 261 00:14:38,357 --> 00:14:40,260 one-and-a-half million people were killed, 262 00:14:40,293 --> 00:14:41,761 and those that escaped... you know, 263 00:14:41,794 --> 00:14:44,631 the orphans and whatnot... made it all the way to the 264 00:14:44,664 --> 00:14:47,634 Middle East and different parts of the world. 265 00:14:50,703 --> 00:14:52,939 When we were at an age where we could actually understand and 266 00:14:52,972 --> 00:14:55,909 speak about these things, my grandparents explained to us 267 00:14:55,942 --> 00:14:59,480 their family story and how they survived the genocide. 268 00:15:07,821 --> 00:15:10,925 After witnessing the murder of his father and going blind from 269 00:15:10,957 --> 00:15:13,760 hunger, my grandfather eventually ended up in an 270 00:15:13,793 --> 00:15:16,329 orphanage in Lebanon. 271 00:15:16,663 --> 00:15:19,399 So I was actually born in Beirut. 272 00:15:19,666 --> 00:15:24,371 But a civil war in 1975 forced my family to escape again, 273 00:15:24,403 --> 00:15:26,841 this time, to Los Angeles. 274 00:15:28,042 --> 00:15:31,644 The continued denial of the genocide by the government of 275 00:15:31,677 --> 00:15:34,715 Turkey has further fueled this trauma. 276 00:15:42,722 --> 00:15:46,659 And it doesn't help the US government being a NATO ally for 277 00:15:46,692 --> 00:15:51,331 political expediency or to sell them more Apache helicopters or 278 00:15:51,365 --> 00:15:52,667 different economic reasons. 279 00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:55,002 Congress has once again failed to recognize 280 00:15:55,034 --> 00:15:58,572 the Armenian genocide, presumably fearing repercussions 281 00:15:58,605 --> 00:15:59,572 from Turkey. 282 00:15:59,605 --> 00:16:02,875 A sour note for the Armenian community. 283 00:16:02,908 --> 00:16:04,711 - Hey, wow. - How are you? 284 00:16:04,745 --> 00:16:07,548 - Such a long time, how are you? - I know, good seeing you... 285 00:16:07,581 --> 00:16:09,383 In other words, we're dealing with a country that has 286 00:16:09,416 --> 00:16:11,986 committed genocide that is not admitting that they've committed 287 00:16:12,019 --> 00:16:12,887 genocide. 288 00:16:12,919 --> 00:16:15,521 And we're treating them like a close ally. 289 00:16:15,554 --> 00:16:17,357 And that is wrong in anybody's book. 290 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:20,526 You guys are the generation to come up with new ways and new 291 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:23,863 interesting, uh, empathetic ways of, 292 00:16:23,897 --> 00:16:27,868 uh, having people understand not just the Armenian genocide but, 293 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:30,370 because of our history and what we've experienced, 294 00:16:30,403 --> 00:16:33,841 having people understand the scourge of genocide in general. 295 00:16:38,446 --> 00:16:40,014 We have a surprise for you. 296 00:16:40,047 --> 00:16:42,016 - Okay. - And we really hope you like it. 297 00:16:42,048 --> 00:16:43,451 Okay. 298 00:16:43,884 --> 00:16:44,851 Oh, wow. 299 00:16:44,884 --> 00:16:46,620 A musical number. 300 00:16:58,597 --> 00:17:01,769 For me, the recognition of the Armenian genocide has 301 00:17:01,802 --> 00:17:03,937 always been a personal quest. 302 00:17:05,939 --> 00:17:07,474 Amazing, wow. 303 00:17:07,507 --> 00:17:09,576 Before my grandfather passed away, 304 00:17:09,608 --> 00:17:13,079 I made a promise that I would do my best to take this issue to 305 00:17:13,113 --> 00:17:16,450 the forefront of whatever I do in my life. 306 00:17:23,490 --> 00:17:24,791 Wow. 307 00:17:27,961 --> 00:17:29,630 You guys are awesome. 308 00:17:31,664 --> 00:17:33,366 That was beautiful. 309 00:17:33,866 --> 00:17:35,635 That's awesome, thank you. 310 00:17:37,703 --> 00:17:39,673 A lot of the labels were scared of them. 311 00:17:39,705 --> 00:17:40,873 They didn't get it. 312 00:17:40,906 --> 00:17:43,509 How do you market four Armenian guys that are not scared to 313 00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:46,112 speak their mind, that can polarize people by speaking 314 00:17:46,145 --> 00:17:48,481 about the lack of recognition of Armenian genocide, 315 00:17:48,515 --> 00:17:51,785 about... about politics, about corruption. 316 00:17:51,817 --> 00:17:53,820 Free-thinkers are dangerous! 317 00:17:56,222 --> 00:17:57,790 And that's one of the things that people really 318 00:17:57,824 --> 00:17:59,692 latched onto as fans. 319 00:17:59,726 --> 00:18:02,963 And so through time, that uniqueness became their biggest 320 00:18:02,996 --> 00:18:03,997 power. 321 00:18:04,029 --> 00:18:07,800 ♪ Need the ones you love and ♪ 322 00:18:07,834 --> 00:18:11,839 ♪ Love the ones you bleed... ♪ 323 00:18:12,372 --> 00:18:15,976 By the time that we actually played the Viper Room, 324 00:18:16,009 --> 00:18:18,945 our manager mentioned that he'd love to have Rick Rubin hear our 325 00:18:18,979 --> 00:18:19,947 band. 326 00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:20,814 And we were like, "What? 327 00:18:20,847 --> 00:18:23,116 Rick Rubin might come to see us play? 328 00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:23,984 Wow." 329 00:18:24,017 --> 00:18:25,920 Like, we were blown away. 330 00:18:26,753 --> 00:18:31,657 From Def Jam to, you know, Slayer to everything he had 331 00:18:31,691 --> 00:18:33,826 done, the Chili Peppers and, you know, 332 00:18:33,859 --> 00:18:36,363 it's... we just thought it would be perfect. 333 00:18:37,330 --> 00:18:41,501 So we started playing, and we see Rick Rubin walking in 334 00:18:41,535 --> 00:18:43,704 and sitting right there. 335 00:18:44,203 --> 00:18:48,375 ♪ It'll be all right ♪ 336 00:19:00,453 --> 00:19:03,022 Hey! 337 00:19:03,056 --> 00:19:04,091 The Viper Room was packed. 338 00:19:04,124 --> 00:19:06,559 I can remember where I was sitting in the booth. 339 00:19:06,593 --> 00:19:08,695 Sitting up on the top of the booth because it was... you 340 00:19:08,728 --> 00:19:11,164 couldn't s... everybody was so wild that you had to be up high 341 00:19:11,198 --> 00:19:13,167 to be able to see anything. 342 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,036 And I remember watching the show and just laughing. 343 00:19:16,068 --> 00:19:18,938 And I... it was so... 344 00:19:18,971 --> 00:19:23,543 extreme and different than anything that I saw before that 345 00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:25,211 the... the only reaction was to laugh. 346 00:19:25,244 --> 00:19:28,915 What it sounded like to me was a combination of ancient folk 347 00:19:28,949 --> 00:19:32,885 music mixed with heavy metal, and I'd never heard that 348 00:19:32,919 --> 00:19:34,054 combination. 349 00:19:34,086 --> 00:19:35,955 And it was thrilling. 350 00:19:51,070 --> 00:19:54,106 This is Rick's house's studio. 351 00:19:54,140 --> 00:19:57,811 Look, we've got machinery, we've got animals... 352 00:19:57,844 --> 00:19:58,245 Molly! 353 00:19:58,278 --> 00:19:59,112 Molly! 354 00:20:09,855 --> 00:20:13,093 So when the record was ready, we went on tour with Slayer. 355 00:20:13,125 --> 00:20:14,961 We are in System of a Down's dressing room. 356 00:20:14,994 --> 00:20:17,096 Serj, the resident terrorist. 357 00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:21,935 And that was like bootcamp, to learn how to deal with a Slayer 358 00:20:21,968 --> 00:20:23,202 audience. 359 00:20:23,236 --> 00:20:28,108 There was this one show where we played the first song and no one 360 00:20:28,141 --> 00:20:30,009 reacted to it. 361 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:33,779 And I think it was Daron's idea to just play the song again. 362 00:20:33,813 --> 00:20:35,148 We're System of a Down. 363 00:20:35,181 --> 00:20:37,651 And whether you like us or you hate us... 364 00:20:37,683 --> 00:20:39,086 They're gonna kill us! 365 00:20:39,118 --> 00:20:41,254 I'm like, "I'm so glad you loved that song. 366 00:20:41,288 --> 00:20:42,788 We're gonna play it for you again." 367 00:20:42,821 --> 00:20:45,258 We played it again and we got their respect. 368 00:20:49,296 --> 00:20:52,132 That experience basically prepared me 369 00:20:52,164 --> 00:20:53,966 for a touring career. 370 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,971 See, you can play a lampshade and consider yourself an artist. 371 00:20:58,003 --> 00:21:01,040 If you do it right, it there's lights going on and off and on 372 00:21:01,074 --> 00:21:02,676 and off and on... 373 00:21:02,709 --> 00:21:05,278 I'm so lucky to be playing music with three of 374 00:21:05,311 --> 00:21:07,680 my best friends in the world. 375 00:21:07,713 --> 00:21:08,914 That's my life, you know? 376 00:21:08,949 --> 00:21:11,151 I don't have to play... 'cause if I had a 9-to-5 job at a bank 377 00:21:11,183 --> 00:21:13,319 like I used to or delivering flowers, 378 00:21:13,353 --> 00:21:16,690 I'd still go home at night and play my guitar. 379 00:21:16,722 --> 00:21:19,659 Those first two and a half years of touring is what 380 00:21:19,692 --> 00:21:22,162 solidified System permanently. 381 00:21:23,195 --> 00:21:27,733 Created that one-on-one interaction with people that 382 00:21:27,767 --> 00:21:29,201 became the early System fans. 383 00:21:29,234 --> 00:21:30,870 System of a Down, man! 384 00:21:30,903 --> 00:21:32,005 Wooh! 385 00:21:32,038 --> 00:21:34,307 They're the ones that spread the gospel. 386 00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:38,210 We are having our say and we are having our voice on... on 387 00:21:38,243 --> 00:21:40,313 political issues, but they're putting it into music, 388 00:21:40,346 --> 00:21:43,215 which is getting out to loads of people across... across the 389 00:21:43,249 --> 00:21:44,718 world. 390 00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:46,019 ♪ Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? ♪ 391 00:21:46,051 --> 00:21:46,719 ♪ (You wanted to) ♪ 392 00:21:46,752 --> 00:21:48,221 ♪ I don't think you trust... ♪ 393 00:21:48,253 --> 00:21:50,057 We were writing our second record, 394 00:21:50,089 --> 00:21:53,693 in the studio recording the song "Chop Suey." 395 00:21:53,727 --> 00:21:56,196 So we were writing, you know, the... the lyrics but that 396 00:21:56,229 --> 00:21:59,199 middle, the breakdown part, I was stuck. 397 00:21:59,231 --> 00:22:01,902 We went to the library of my house and I said, 398 00:22:01,934 --> 00:22:04,203 "Just pick a book randomly" and you picked a book randomly, 399 00:22:04,237 --> 00:22:07,106 and I said, "Open it up randomly and just point to a phrase." 400 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:10,611 I couldn't believe it when I put my finger and I read it. 401 00:22:10,810 --> 00:22:13,346 The universe is conspiring on our behalf all the 402 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:16,717 time if you're... if you're open. 403 00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:19,885 And that ended up being the first line of the bridge. 404 00:22:19,919 --> 00:22:21,121 "Father, have you forsaken me? 405 00:22:21,153 --> 00:22:22,189 Father, have you forsaken me?" 406 00:22:22,221 --> 00:22:23,923 ♪ Father! (Father!) ♪ 407 00:22:23,957 --> 00:22:26,059 ♪ Father! (Father!) ♪ 408 00:22:26,092 --> 00:22:29,763 ♪ Father, into your hands, I commend my spirit ♪ 409 00:22:29,796 --> 00:22:34,802 ♪ Father, into your hands, why have you forsaken me? ♪ 410 00:22:35,269 --> 00:22:38,971 ♪ In your eyes forsaken me ♪ 411 00:22:39,005 --> 00:22:42,776 ♪ In your thoughts forsaken me ♪ 412 00:22:42,808 --> 00:22:46,245 ♪ I cry ♪ 413 00:22:46,278 --> 00:22:49,281 ♪ When angels deserve to die... ♪ 414 00:22:49,315 --> 00:22:52,818 'Toxicity' was released September of 2001. 415 00:22:52,852 --> 00:22:56,256 And the day before, we were gonna have a show in Hollywood 416 00:22:56,288 --> 00:22:57,824 to obviously set up the record. 417 00:22:57,856 --> 00:22:59,259 It was a free show. 418 00:22:59,659 --> 00:23:04,098 And I don't think anyone knew how big the band was. 419 00:23:04,998 --> 00:23:07,801 As were about to play the show... 420 00:23:08,634 --> 00:23:10,436 we're told that there are too many people. 421 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:13,273 This was supposed to be a free concert by the group System of a 422 00:23:13,306 --> 00:23:16,109 Down, and it did go downhill fast. 423 00:23:16,142 --> 00:23:17,243 Police on horseback... 424 00:23:17,277 --> 00:23:19,846 The fire marshal won't let us on the stage to play. 425 00:23:19,878 --> 00:23:21,180 Breaking down barricades, 426 00:23:21,213 --> 00:23:23,416 fans tipped over speakers onstage, 427 00:23:23,450 --> 00:23:25,786 took off running with expensive equipment, 428 00:23:25,818 --> 00:23:26,953 and vandalized anything... 429 00:23:26,987 --> 00:23:28,822 They didn't know who the riot was about, 430 00:23:28,855 --> 00:23:29,789 what was happening. 431 00:23:29,823 --> 00:23:30,424 Like, what? 432 00:23:30,457 --> 00:23:31,658 This is all about a band? 433 00:23:31,692 --> 00:23:34,861 Like wildfire, through the crowd and then the 434 00:23:34,894 --> 00:23:35,995 streets of Hollywood... 435 00:23:36,028 --> 00:23:39,965 The newswire circulated nationwide on the eve of our 436 00:23:39,999 --> 00:23:41,000 record release. 437 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,003 Are System of a Down fans taking the message of 438 00:23:44,037 --> 00:23:46,673 political rebellion too far? 439 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,710 I mean, who the hell thought System of a Down, 440 00:23:49,742 --> 00:23:54,047 four Armenian kids, misfits that came together and made music 441 00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,817 that never should have been popular, 442 00:23:56,849 --> 00:24:00,186 now we're on CNN and there's a riot because of us? 443 00:24:00,554 --> 00:24:02,155 And that was it, man. 444 00:24:02,188 --> 00:24:04,191 That was the spark. 445 00:24:05,258 --> 00:24:09,863 ♪ When angels deserve to die ♪ 446 00:24:09,895 --> 00:24:13,067 And then, it was like two weeks later and. 447 00:24:15,501 --> 00:24:17,203 It is beautiful outside, 448 00:24:17,237 --> 00:24:19,306 perfect September day with lots of sunshine. 449 00:24:19,338 --> 00:24:20,373 Oh, would you look at... 450 00:24:20,405 --> 00:24:21,640 This just in. 451 00:24:21,673 --> 00:24:24,310 You are looking at, obviously, a very disturbing live shot there. 452 00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:26,346 That is the World Trade Center and we have... 453 00:24:26,378 --> 00:24:27,046 Oh, my God. 454 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:28,481 Another plane has just hit. 455 00:24:28,515 --> 00:24:29,850 Oh, another one just hit! 456 00:24:29,883 --> 00:24:31,183 Oh, my God. 457 00:24:31,217 --> 00:24:32,051 It was fucked up. 458 00:24:32,085 --> 00:24:33,119 Like, everything felt out-of-control. 459 00:24:33,153 --> 00:24:36,021 Everything felt like there was no one in charge. 460 00:24:36,055 --> 00:24:37,923 I saw smoke coming out and everybody started running out 461 00:24:37,957 --> 00:24:40,894 and we saw the plane on the other s... side of the building 462 00:24:40,926 --> 00:24:43,096 and there was smoke everywhere and people were jumping out the 463 00:24:43,128 --> 00:24:44,330 windows... over there! 464 00:24:44,364 --> 00:24:45,665 They're jumping out the windows... 465 00:24:45,699 --> 00:24:49,035 I was so depressed by what was going on that it made 466 00:24:49,067 --> 00:24:51,872 me really look into the causes. 467 00:24:51,904 --> 00:24:54,340 What can cause something like this? 468 00:24:54,374 --> 00:24:58,879 "Understanding oil, September 13, 2001." 469 00:24:58,912 --> 00:25:00,146 So I wrote an essay... 470 00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:03,216 "Why did these people do this horrific act of violence 471 00:25:03,249 --> 00:25:04,284 and destruction? 472 00:25:04,317 --> 00:25:05,418 To be able to understand the answer to this, 473 00:25:05,451 --> 00:25:08,087 we must first look at our US Mid-East policy..." 474 00:25:08,121 --> 00:25:13,127 I kind of analyzed what type of dictators and despots have the 475 00:25:13,326 --> 00:25:16,395 US supported over the last 50 years. 476 00:25:16,429 --> 00:25:18,064 "What everyone fails to realize is that the bombings 477 00:25:18,096 --> 00:25:21,433 are a reaction to existing injustices around the world, 478 00:25:21,467 --> 00:25:23,370 generally unseen to most Americans... 479 00:25:23,403 --> 00:25:25,806 The wars waged by our government have landed smack in the middle 480 00:25:25,838 --> 00:25:26,773 of our living room..." 481 00:25:26,807 --> 00:25:29,142 So I posted it to the band's website. 482 00:25:29,174 --> 00:25:31,478 And I didn't think anything of it. 483 00:25:34,413 --> 00:25:37,151 And then all hell broke loose. 484 00:25:39,152 --> 00:25:42,122 Serj, without discussing it with anybody in the band, 485 00:25:42,154 --> 00:25:44,456 put up something that was really... 486 00:25:44,490 --> 00:25:47,093 It wasn't... it wasn't untrue. 487 00:25:47,125 --> 00:25:48,994 But you don't go to somebody that just had a death in the 488 00:25:49,028 --> 00:25:52,432 family and talk about how shitty that person was to them. 489 00:25:52,464 --> 00:25:54,266 And it certainly didn't represent the way the rest of us 490 00:25:54,299 --> 00:25:54,800 felt. 491 00:25:54,834 --> 00:25:56,570 I was really pissed. 492 00:25:56,603 --> 00:25:58,305 The way it came off is "Fuck you, 493 00:25:58,337 --> 00:25:59,439 America. 494 00:25:59,472 --> 00:26:01,441 It's your fault that this happened to your people." 495 00:26:01,473 --> 00:26:03,277 And that was uncool. 496 00:26:04,611 --> 00:26:06,947 We got banned everywhere, you know? 497 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:10,016 For the first month of our record release. 498 00:26:12,218 --> 00:26:15,455 Clear Channel sent out a bunch of titles of songs that they 499 00:26:15,488 --> 00:26:17,324 wanted removed from the playlists. 500 00:26:17,356 --> 00:26:19,859 One of them was "Chop Suey." 501 00:26:19,893 --> 00:26:22,194 "Trust in my self-righteous suicide," the... the main lyric 502 00:26:22,228 --> 00:26:23,395 in the chorus. 503 00:26:23,429 --> 00:26:25,131 The lead singer of System of a Down 504 00:26:25,163 --> 00:26:27,000 is gonna call in, Serj, because... 505 00:26:27,032 --> 00:26:28,100 Oh, wonderful. 506 00:26:28,134 --> 00:26:29,402 He wants to explain himself. 507 00:26:29,435 --> 00:26:31,370 That he's just a man of peace and love and he's getting... 508 00:26:31,403 --> 00:26:33,339 I remember being in a hotel room, 509 00:26:33,373 --> 00:26:36,643 having to wake up at 4AM to get on the Howard Stern Show and 510 00:26:36,675 --> 00:26:39,144 defend my words and... and... and explain that, 511 00:26:39,178 --> 00:26:41,147 "Look, I'm just trying to understand what's going on. 512 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:43,048 Everything I've said is factual. 513 00:26:43,082 --> 00:26:45,485 And... and I'd be happy to talk about it." 514 00:26:45,518 --> 00:26:47,354 But I also felt scared. 515 00:26:47,386 --> 00:26:49,489 We were getting personal death threats. 516 00:26:49,521 --> 00:26:52,157 The band pulled me into a room, sat me down, 517 00:26:52,191 --> 00:26:55,194 and goes, "What the fuck are you trying to do to us, 518 00:26:55,228 --> 00:26:56,496 get us killed?!" 519 00:26:56,528 --> 00:26:57,998 And I'm like, "Guys, I'm so sorry, 520 00:26:58,030 --> 00:27:00,532 I'm just... it's... honestly, it's the truth!" 521 00:27:00,566 --> 00:27:04,371 Like, I was so naive that I thought that because it was the 522 00:27:04,403 --> 00:27:06,506 truth, that it was okay to say it. 523 00:27:06,538 --> 00:27:08,407 Did we deserve to be bombed...? 524 00:27:08,441 --> 00:27:09,742 Oh, absolutely not. 525 00:27:09,776 --> 00:27:10,710 I think people think that maybe that's what you're 526 00:27:10,743 --> 00:27:11,610 saying, that we deserved to be bombed. 527 00:27:11,644 --> 00:27:13,813 Oh, no, man, absolutely... 528 00:27:13,846 --> 00:27:14,913 That we brought it on ourselves. 529 00:27:14,948 --> 00:27:16,182 - Right. - No, absolutely not... 530 00:27:16,215 --> 00:27:20,920 When I hung up that phone, I remember feeling like shit. 531 00:27:20,953 --> 00:27:23,690 I was playing a line where I was defending myself, 532 00:27:23,722 --> 00:27:27,059 but I couldn't really get into the main issues and kind of 533 00:27:27,093 --> 00:27:29,028 really fight for my words. 534 00:27:29,061 --> 00:27:31,030 And that made me feel really bad. 535 00:27:31,064 --> 00:27:32,532 I f... I felt constrained. 536 00:27:32,565 --> 00:27:33,732 I felt... 537 00:27:33,766 --> 00:27:36,469 I felt like I couldn't say what I wanted in a well-known 538 00:27:36,501 --> 00:27:37,569 democracy. 539 00:27:37,603 --> 00:27:38,037 I don't know what Serj said. 540 00:27:38,069 --> 00:27:39,237 Believe me... 541 00:27:39,271 --> 00:27:40,505 He wasn't gonna say what he said. 542 00:27:40,539 --> 00:27:42,942 Yeah, I don't know... I don't know what kind of 543 00:27:42,976 --> 00:27:44,177 guy Serj is so, you know, I gave Serj the opportunity to speak 544 00:27:44,211 --> 00:27:47,047 and... and what the hell, you make your own conclusions. 545 00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,515 That's the true artist's role in society. 546 00:27:49,548 --> 00:27:51,918 That's why we're here. 547 00:27:52,752 --> 00:27:55,554 The things you're talking about are reflecting what's really 548 00:27:55,587 --> 00:27:56,623 going on. 549 00:27:56,655 --> 00:27:59,091 A lot of people just don't want to talk about it. 550 00:27:59,291 --> 00:28:02,261 Not talking about it doesn't make it go away. 551 00:28:02,528 --> 00:28:06,732 So it is... it is our responsibility to push back. 552 00:28:10,103 --> 00:28:11,270 Despite controversy, 553 00:28:11,304 --> 00:28:15,408 'Toxicity' has hit number one on the Billboard 200. 554 00:28:15,441 --> 00:28:17,477 System of a Down has arrived. 555 00:28:17,509 --> 00:28:19,546 System of a Down officially announced that they're going to 556 00:28:19,578 --> 00:28:21,714 release 'Steal This Album, ' a collection of 557 00:28:21,748 --> 00:28:22,982 previously-recorded... 558 00:28:23,016 --> 00:28:25,719 So at the time there was the whole build up to the Iraq War 559 00:28:25,751 --> 00:28:26,586 movement. 560 00:28:26,619 --> 00:28:29,421 Simply stated, there is no doubt... 561 00:28:29,454 --> 00:28:32,591 that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. 562 00:28:32,625 --> 00:28:35,595 Alliances with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack 563 00:28:35,627 --> 00:28:37,364 America... 564 00:28:37,696 --> 00:28:40,466 without leaving any fingerprints. 565 00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,268 I remember having a meeting with the band and 566 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:43,636 management. 567 00:28:43,936 --> 00:28:46,105 And they were like, "Okay, well, we're gonna release this other 568 00:28:46,138 --> 00:28:46,939 record. 569 00:28:46,972 --> 00:28:49,108 You know, we should pick a single." 570 00:28:49,142 --> 00:28:52,479 And I'm just holding... holding my breath going, 571 00:28:52,511 --> 00:28:54,480 "I know everyone's gonna hate what I say now," 572 00:28:54,513 --> 00:28:55,180 you know? 573 00:28:55,213 --> 00:28:56,315 Kind of thing. 574 00:28:56,348 --> 00:29:00,119 And I said, "I think we should make a video for the song 575 00:29:00,153 --> 00:29:04,190 'Boom' which talks about bombing people and the adverse 576 00:29:04,222 --> 00:29:09,229 effects of war, uh, and I think Michael Moore should direct it. 577 00:29:09,862 --> 00:29:11,498 Let's just make a statement." 578 00:29:12,699 --> 00:29:15,201 As a Vietnam vet, I do not believe that war should be 579 00:29:15,233 --> 00:29:16,668 fought in America's name. 580 00:29:16,701 --> 00:29:17,903 It's the most ridiculous thing... 581 00:29:17,936 --> 00:29:20,773 I'm here because my brother is in the Navy and we want him to 582 00:29:20,807 --> 00:29:21,807 come home alive. 583 00:29:24,242 --> 00:29:27,547 I don't understand why dropping bombs on children is the best 584 00:29:27,579 --> 00:29:30,182 way to achieve peace. 585 00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:35,555 ♪ Why must we ♪ 586 00:29:36,388 --> 00:29:41,394 ♪ Kill our own kind? ♪ 587 00:29:43,563 --> 00:29:47,034 ♪ Boom! Boom! Boom! Boom! ♪ 588 00:29:48,601 --> 00:29:49,803 I went to... 589 00:29:49,836 --> 00:29:52,105 I... I think it was an Ozzfest. 590 00:29:52,371 --> 00:29:55,408 I was outraged that there were a l... it was in San Bernardino and 591 00:29:55,441 --> 00:29:58,644 there were a lot of, like, Nazi and white power tattoos in the 592 00:29:58,678 --> 00:29:59,813 audience. 593 00:29:59,846 --> 00:30:03,348 And onstage, almost every band had at least one non-white 594 00:30:03,382 --> 00:30:04,549 member in it. 595 00:30:04,583 --> 00:30:06,553 And I just thought, "That's like a... that's just... that's not 596 00:30:06,586 --> 00:30:07,520 right. 597 00:30:07,554 --> 00:30:08,755 And somebody needs to do something about that." 598 00:30:08,788 --> 00:30:10,824 And I had the idea to form an organization called Axis of 599 00:30:10,856 --> 00:30:12,024 Justice. 600 00:30:12,057 --> 00:30:13,359 They preach out to a community and to an audience... 601 00:30:13,393 --> 00:30:16,863 Tom said, "Look, would you be interested in... in... in 602 00:30:16,895 --> 00:30:17,663 talking about this?" 603 00:30:17,696 --> 00:30:19,598 And I said, "Fuck yeah." 604 00:30:19,632 --> 00:30:22,869 I think the very first time we met was at an action. 605 00:30:22,902 --> 00:30:28,107 Santa Monica had outlawed people feeding homeless people, 606 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:29,908 and we were... in defiance of this ordinance, 607 00:30:29,942 --> 00:30:33,278 we were going to feed all the homeless people in sight. 608 00:30:33,311 --> 00:30:34,680 Stewart Copeland goes over to Travis Barker, 609 00:30:34,713 --> 00:30:36,715 taps him on the shoulder and goes... 610 00:30:36,749 --> 00:30:38,282 Oh, no way! 611 00:30:38,284 --> 00:30:38,718 No way! 612 00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:39,885 That's awesome! 613 00:30:39,919 --> 00:30:43,123 I had only known Serj as like sort of the painted sort of 614 00:30:43,155 --> 00:30:46,459 hysterical shaman of... of Armenian, 615 00:30:46,491 --> 00:30:47,693 you know, death metal. 616 00:30:47,727 --> 00:30:50,596 Uh, and he was the gentlest soul... 617 00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:52,632 maybe in the history of rock and roll music. 618 00:30:52,664 --> 00:30:54,701 This is the Axis of Justice... 619 00:30:54,733 --> 00:30:55,768 Radio Network. 620 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,635 I'm Tom Morello. 621 00:30:56,669 --> 00:30:57,870 I'm Serj Tankian. 622 00:30:57,903 --> 00:31:00,306 And for the next hour, we are going to be spinning rebel jams 623 00:31:00,338 --> 00:31:03,475 of various genres and revealing dangerous truths. 624 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:04,610 Very dangerous. 625 00:31:04,644 --> 00:31:05,912 And that's how we very much saw ourselves, 626 00:31:05,944 --> 00:31:08,881 as... as being social justice warriors and really moving the 627 00:31:08,914 --> 00:31:13,286 goalposts for what ideas could be discussed in popular music. 628 00:31:15,288 --> 00:31:18,758 Press gravitated toward us earlier on because of our 629 00:31:18,790 --> 00:31:22,162 political message, and that's fine and that's totally cool. 630 00:31:22,194 --> 00:31:23,896 But one of the reactions that I always got, 631 00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:25,932 especially from the other guys is, 632 00:31:25,964 --> 00:31:27,766 "They're only talking about, you know, 633 00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:30,169 our two, three songs out of the 12." 634 00:31:30,202 --> 00:31:32,805 It takes people like System of a Down to get the word out. 635 00:31:32,837 --> 00:31:34,005 And I think they do a good job of it. 636 00:31:34,038 --> 00:31:37,309 Without them, there would be nobody out there that does that. 637 00:31:37,643 --> 00:31:41,280 We didn't want to, uh, pigeonhole ourselves as purely a 638 00:31:41,314 --> 00:31:42,515 political band. 639 00:31:42,548 --> 00:31:45,184 And we also didn't want the politics to be more important 640 00:31:45,218 --> 00:31:47,220 than the music. 641 00:31:48,487 --> 00:31:50,957 Yeah, we had to have some talks about that and just say, 642 00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:55,327 "Look, let's not alienate half our audience every night. 643 00:31:55,361 --> 00:31:56,462 We've got Axis of Justice, 644 00:31:56,496 --> 00:31:59,465 we've got Amnesty International, Darfur Action Committee, 645 00:31:59,498 --> 00:32:01,366 uh, each with their own booths to pass out, 646 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,504 uh, information about causes that people wouldn't necessarily 647 00:32:04,537 --> 00:32:05,638 see at a rock event. 648 00:32:05,672 --> 00:32:07,807 But if you know Serj, he's a... a little bit of a 649 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:09,474 stubborn guy. 650 00:32:09,508 --> 00:32:12,711 If he thinks he's right, if the entire world thinks the 651 00:32:12,744 --> 00:32:16,348 opposite, he's still right in his head and that's that. 652 00:32:18,416 --> 00:32:20,953 One thing our band always did agree upon is, 653 00:32:20,987 --> 00:32:23,990 you know, pursuing recognition for the Armenian genocide 654 00:32:24,022 --> 00:32:27,526 because all our grandparents are survivors of the genocide. 655 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:30,395 Tonight is not just the 90th anniversary of the Armenian 656 00:32:30,429 --> 00:32:31,663 genocide. 657 00:32:33,365 --> 00:32:35,667 It's also time to break down all the walls of 658 00:32:35,701 --> 00:32:39,672 hypocrisy around the world with all genocides known and 659 00:32:39,704 --> 00:32:41,340 unknown... 660 00:32:41,374 --> 00:32:43,809 accepted or not accepted... 661 00:32:43,843 --> 00:32:46,846 It's time to make the Turkish government... 662 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,849 pay for their fucking crime! 663 00:32:55,855 --> 00:32:57,257 ♪ Ignition ♪ 664 00:32:58,723 --> 00:32:59,891 ♪ Ignition ♪ 665 00:32:59,924 --> 00:33:03,596 I was making a documentary, um, for British television, 666 00:33:03,628 --> 00:33:05,897 and I had a colleague at the time who said, 667 00:33:05,931 --> 00:33:09,535 "Hey, do you know about this Armenian band, 668 00:33:09,567 --> 00:33:11,371 System of a Down?" 669 00:33:11,403 --> 00:33:13,605 And I said, "Well, sure, but, you know, 670 00:33:13,638 --> 00:33:16,842 I'm working on human rights, political documentaries. 671 00:33:16,875 --> 00:33:18,411 Why would I be interested in that?" 672 00:33:18,443 --> 00:33:20,913 ♪ A whole race, genocide ♪ 673 00:33:20,945 --> 00:33:23,715 ♪ Taking away all of our pride ♪ 674 00:33:23,749 --> 00:33:26,919 ♪ A whole race, genocide ♪ 675 00:33:26,951 --> 00:33:30,056 ♪ Taken away (Watch it all fall down) ♪ 676 00:33:30,088 --> 00:33:34,894 In 2004, you had a movement in Congress to get the 677 00:33:34,926 --> 00:33:36,428 genocide recognized. 678 00:33:36,461 --> 00:33:38,865 - All in favor, say "Aye." - Aye. 679 00:33:38,897 --> 00:33:40,799 - Opposed, "nay." - Nay. 680 00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:42,769 The ayes have it. 681 00:33:42,801 --> 00:33:44,469 We're over a very difficult, 682 00:33:44,502 --> 00:33:45,703 important hurdle. 683 00:33:45,738 --> 00:33:47,807 We haven't had a, uh, victory in this committee for half a 684 00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:48,875 decade. 685 00:33:48,907 --> 00:33:51,777 But now we're up, uh, against just as difficult, 686 00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:55,881 uh, opposition in getting it scheduled for the House floor. 687 00:33:55,914 --> 00:33:57,783 Uh, this committee received, last night, 688 00:33:57,817 --> 00:33:59,885 a letter from the State Department opposing these 689 00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:01,421 resolutions. 690 00:34:01,453 --> 00:34:03,789 So we're gonna have to fight to get this done. 691 00:34:04,623 --> 00:34:05,724 Hello? 692 00:34:05,758 --> 00:34:08,760 At one point, I remember being in Chicago for a show and, 693 00:34:08,794 --> 00:34:13,099 uh, we realized that it's the hometown of Dennis Hastert, 694 00:34:13,132 --> 00:34:14,900 who at the time was Speaker of the House. 695 00:34:14,934 --> 00:34:17,804 We found out that it's back to Dennis Hastert's hands, 696 00:34:17,836 --> 00:34:19,972 the Speaker of the House, to... you know, 697 00:34:20,005 --> 00:34:22,775 it's... it's under his power to... whether he's gonna allow it to 698 00:34:22,807 --> 00:34:23,976 go to a full house vote or not. 699 00:34:24,009 --> 00:34:27,813 And there's all these claims about him taking hush money from 700 00:34:27,847 --> 00:34:29,515 different Turkish sources. 701 00:34:29,547 --> 00:34:32,451 Yeah, we just decided to ramp up the process. 702 00:34:33,985 --> 00:34:35,621 Hey, way to keep it medium-level, 703 00:34:35,653 --> 00:34:36,489 Serj. 704 00:34:36,521 --> 00:34:38,824 You can't deny the truth! 705 00:34:38,858 --> 00:34:40,693 You can't deny the truth! 706 00:34:40,726 --> 00:34:42,662 Recognize it now! 707 00:34:42,695 --> 00:34:44,530 Recognize it now! 708 00:34:44,563 --> 00:34:46,932 It just so happens that people gravitate more towards the 709 00:34:46,965 --> 00:34:48,800 political aspect of the band. 710 00:34:48,833 --> 00:34:49,935 And when it concerns this, this is, 711 00:34:49,969 --> 00:34:51,871 for us, a personal issue. 712 00:34:51,903 --> 00:34:53,106 - How are you? - I'm fine, nice to see you. 713 00:34:53,139 --> 00:34:54,673 - I'm Serj, how are you? - Good. 714 00:34:54,706 --> 00:34:56,675 I'm... I'm from the band System of a Down. 715 00:34:56,708 --> 00:34:58,710 - From where? - From the band System of a Down. 716 00:34:58,744 --> 00:34:59,679 - Oh, yeah, right. - Yeah. 717 00:34:59,711 --> 00:35:00,679 Yeah, great, very good. 718 00:35:00,713 --> 00:35:02,115 We came to your office to give you to a letter. 719 00:35:02,148 --> 00:35:03,015 Oh, excellent. 720 00:35:03,047 --> 00:35:04,116 Yeah. 721 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:05,385 Did you happen to get it? 722 00:35:05,418 --> 00:35:06,719 Not... I haven't looked at it yet, 723 00:35:06,751 --> 00:35:07,920 'cause I've been... 724 00:35:07,952 --> 00:35:09,021 - I'm sure you're very busy. - One of those days, yeah, right. 725 00:35:09,054 --> 00:35:10,255 I'll look at it... I do that usually in the evening. 726 00:35:10,289 --> 00:35:12,725 Well, we've been here meeting members of Congress and some 727 00:35:12,757 --> 00:35:15,827 senators, talking about the Armenian genocide resolution... 728 00:35:15,860 --> 00:35:16,795 Okay. 729 00:35:16,829 --> 00:35:17,963 And the importance to pass it, you know, 730 00:35:17,996 --> 00:35:21,867 regarding our history and the Armenian community and, 731 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,870 you know, how important it is to all of us to face a historical 732 00:35:24,903 --> 00:35:28,907 reality and help get over this with with Turkey. 733 00:35:29,108 --> 00:35:31,010 And everyone's been very receptive and... 734 00:35:31,043 --> 00:35:31,876 That's good. 735 00:35:31,911 --> 00:35:32,945 It's been going great and, you know, 736 00:35:32,978 --> 00:35:35,514 we know that it's in your hands and. 737 00:35:35,547 --> 00:35:36,915 I'll take a look at your letter. 738 00:35:36,949 --> 00:35:37,750 Okay. 739 00:35:37,782 --> 00:35:39,418 - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 740 00:35:41,052 --> 00:35:44,056 Before System of a Down came onto the scene, 741 00:35:44,088 --> 00:35:48,894 we had artists who happened to be Armenian but who did not wear 742 00:35:49,695 --> 00:35:51,998 their Armenian identity on their sleeves, 743 00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:54,433 like Cher, for example. 744 00:35:55,134 --> 00:35:56,936 And suddenly, you see these guys, 745 00:35:56,969 --> 00:36:01,074 who are heavy metal rockers, who are having a huge impact. 746 00:36:01,773 --> 00:36:06,980 I think Armenians in the diaspora craved somebody to have 747 00:36:07,914 --> 00:36:12,919 the power of celebrity to get real political change. 748 00:36:26,965 --> 00:36:28,467 - Brains! - Brains! 749 00:36:28,501 --> 00:36:29,235 Brains! 750 00:36:29,268 --> 00:36:30,635 Touring was always fun. 751 00:36:32,237 --> 00:36:36,107 Going from city to city and meeting different people... 752 00:36:36,141 --> 00:36:38,911 System of a Down is filling stadiums, 753 00:36:38,943 --> 00:36:39,911 sweeping awards... 754 00:36:39,945 --> 00:36:40,412 System of a Down! 755 00:36:40,445 --> 00:36:41,746 System of a Down! 756 00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:43,115 System of a Down! 757 00:36:44,148 --> 00:36:45,349 And changing the world. 758 00:36:45,384 --> 00:36:48,086 Talk to me a little bit about your grandfather. 759 00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:53,125 Your grandfather miraculously somehow survived this holocaust 760 00:36:53,326 --> 00:36:54,226 in... 761 00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:55,461 Just this year, Canada, 762 00:36:55,494 --> 00:37:00,799 Russia, Argentina, and a dozen other countries have recognized 763 00:37:00,833 --> 00:37:01,934 the Armenian genocide. 764 00:37:01,967 --> 00:37:04,603 The Armenian genocide is recognized by a number of 765 00:37:04,637 --> 00:37:06,939 nations in the world already, and eventually, 766 00:37:06,972 --> 00:37:09,275 the US will have to do it as well. 767 00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:13,980 Whe... when you do it for a long period of time, 768 00:37:14,012 --> 00:37:16,882 it... it wears on you, you know? 769 00:37:22,153 --> 00:37:23,655 "Claustrophobia. 770 00:37:27,025 --> 00:37:30,128 Losing sight of the eternal garden could be devastating at 771 00:37:30,161 --> 00:37:31,429 best. 772 00:37:31,463 --> 00:37:35,034 What drives me insane are the catastrophic perplexities of 773 00:37:35,067 --> 00:37:38,170 those close souls with whom I have drunk from the pure 774 00:37:38,202 --> 00:37:40,105 fountain of harmony. 775 00:37:40,139 --> 00:37:42,041 As long as there is a way..." 776 00:37:42,974 --> 00:37:46,811 The whole concept behind bands staying together and, 777 00:37:46,844 --> 00:37:49,881 uh, continuing a long tradition of something is, 778 00:37:49,914 --> 00:37:53,552 uh, I think it's commercially motivated. 779 00:37:53,585 --> 00:37:57,155 And I don't think anything, uh, in life and especially art 780 00:37:57,188 --> 00:38:01,159 should be, uh, put in that much of a format, 781 00:38:01,193 --> 00:38:02,361 you know? 782 00:38:02,393 --> 00:38:04,029 So I personally don't think bands should exist forever, 783 00:38:04,063 --> 00:38:05,664 to be honest with you. 784 00:38:05,697 --> 00:38:08,067 I'm gonna quit the band after this interview. 785 00:38:10,268 --> 00:38:13,004 The way I think Daron always saw this band and... and 786 00:38:13,038 --> 00:38:15,206 maybe even the other guys, I gotta say, 787 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,742 is that we each had a role, like a sports team, 788 00:38:17,775 --> 00:38:20,078 is... is how it's been described before. 789 00:38:20,112 --> 00:38:23,349 And that we should each kind of excel at that role and then 790 00:38:23,382 --> 00:38:27,219 bring the unit together as a team to score. 791 00:38:27,251 --> 00:38:29,154 Like, if you want to use sporting, 792 00:38:29,188 --> 00:38:31,190 uh, terminology. 793 00:38:32,724 --> 00:38:34,893 And that's fine if you think of it that way. 794 00:38:34,927 --> 00:38:37,195 And there's some truth to that. 795 00:38:37,228 --> 00:38:39,230 But I've always thought as an artist as more than 796 00:38:39,264 --> 00:38:42,702 just... playing a guitar or, you know, 797 00:38:42,735 --> 00:38:44,704 I'm only supposed to write lyrics or... you know, 798 00:38:44,737 --> 00:38:48,106 as you grow as an artist, you have more to give. 799 00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,076 And for me, that's what it was. 800 00:38:50,108 --> 00:38:52,177 I felt artistically stifled. 801 00:38:52,210 --> 00:38:55,246 "The enigmatic loss of vision and its accompanying diverse 802 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,752 avenues of existence caused this lockdown hysteria." 803 00:39:01,253 --> 00:39:03,623 I told the guys that, "Look, after the next record," 804 00:39:03,655 --> 00:39:05,358 which turned out to be two records, 'Mesmerize'/ 805 00:39:05,391 --> 00:39:08,260 'Hypnotize, ' "I want to do my own thing, take a hiatus." 806 00:39:08,293 --> 00:39:10,229 The announcement has sent shockwaves 807 00:39:10,262 --> 00:39:12,198 around the rock world. 808 00:39:12,231 --> 00:39:15,935 With two number one albums and a Grammy just this year, 809 00:39:15,967 --> 00:39:20,072 System of a Down is stepping off the stage. 810 00:39:31,983 --> 00:39:36,087 From the rainmaker sound to, uh, 811 00:39:36,121 --> 00:39:38,391 a baby Chinese accordion... 812 00:39:40,858 --> 00:39:43,429 Working on my first solo record, 'Elect the Dead, ' was a lot of 813 00:39:43,461 --> 00:39:45,431 fun, 'cause it was a whole different process. 814 00:39:45,463 --> 00:39:47,766 Okay, uh, kalimba. 815 00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:52,137 I'm making a rock record without a rock band. 816 00:39:55,340 --> 00:39:57,175 So it... it doesn't sound great without really being 817 00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,443 hooked up. 818 00:39:58,476 --> 00:40:00,413 You throw a little delay pedal on there and... and some phaser 819 00:40:00,445 --> 00:40:02,414 and stuff and it sounds phenomenal. 820 00:40:02,447 --> 00:40:04,016 It's great for composing, really... 821 00:40:04,048 --> 00:40:05,250 Now, I'm writing every aspect of it. 822 00:40:05,284 --> 00:40:07,952 I'm writing, you know, the rhythmical patterns for the 823 00:40:07,985 --> 00:40:09,254 drums, the bass lines... 824 00:40:09,288 --> 00:40:11,023 That's the pianos. 825 00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:15,027 So I started with that, with just the pianos. 826 00:40:18,329 --> 00:40:20,132 And... and most of the songs are written either on 827 00:40:20,164 --> 00:40:22,701 acoustic guitar or piano with vocals, 828 00:40:22,735 --> 00:40:24,170 uh, to start with. 829 00:40:24,202 --> 00:40:26,172 And then just building up. 830 00:40:26,871 --> 00:40:28,973 And then brought in the vocals. 831 00:40:29,007 --> 00:40:31,811 ♪ Pretentious attention ♪ 832 00:40:31,844 --> 00:40:34,346 ♪ Dismissive apprehension ♪ 833 00:40:34,378 --> 00:40:39,184 ♪ Don't waste your time on coffins today... ♪ 834 00:40:39,217 --> 00:40:41,152 And just, you know, tracking the whole thing and 835 00:40:41,186 --> 00:40:43,889 then bringing live musicians to replace some of the stuff that 836 00:40:43,922 --> 00:40:45,391 I've performed on. 837 00:40:46,458 --> 00:40:51,497 ♪ Don't waste your time on coffins today... ♪ 838 00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:53,332 It's... it's... it's invigorating. 839 00:40:53,364 --> 00:40:55,067 It's emancipating. 840 00:40:55,099 --> 00:40:56,367 ♪ Desolate and full of yearning ♪ 841 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,036 ♪ Dying of anticipation ♪ 842 00:40:58,070 --> 00:40:59,472 ♪ Choking from intoxication ♪ 843 00:40:59,505 --> 00:41:01,240 ♪ Don't you see their bodies burning?... ♪ 844 00:41:01,273 --> 00:41:04,309 I remember that there was this one point in the recording 845 00:41:04,342 --> 00:41:08,379 studio by myself, listening back to some of the tracks. 846 00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,048 I was, like, running around and, like, 847 00:41:10,081 --> 00:41:13,018 really amped into it by myself, which probably would look 848 00:41:13,050 --> 00:41:14,853 ridiculous if you saw someone doing that. 849 00:41:14,887 --> 00:41:16,122 Insane. 850 00:41:16,155 --> 00:41:19,358 But that's when I really knew that the music would connect. 851 00:41:19,391 --> 00:41:23,394 And rock is a unique delivery mechanism for rebellion. 852 00:41:23,427 --> 00:41:25,063 ♪ Don't you see their bodies burning? ♪ 853 00:41:25,097 --> 00:41:26,365 ♪ Desolate and full of yearning ♪ 854 00:41:26,398 --> 00:41:28,033 ♪ Dying of anticipation ♪ 855 00:41:28,065 --> 00:41:29,400 ♪ Choking from intoxication ♪ 856 00:41:29,434 --> 00:41:31,036 ♪ Don't you see their bodies burning? ♪ 857 00:41:31,068 --> 00:41:32,771 ♪ Desolate and full of yearning... ♪ 858 00:41:32,804 --> 00:41:34,539 "Empty Walls" actually, you know, 859 00:41:34,572 --> 00:41:38,777 had a lot of radio play and we made this incredible video. 860 00:41:38,811 --> 00:41:43,215 There was a reenactment of 9/11 with kids and the Abu Ghraib 861 00:41:43,248 --> 00:41:44,383 situation. 862 00:41:44,416 --> 00:41:48,554 ♪ Taunt you to see from behind those empty walls ♪ 863 00:41:48,586 --> 00:41:52,791 ♪ I want you to be left behind... ♪ 864 00:41:52,824 --> 00:41:54,527 And then, I got an offer to do something with an 865 00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,262 orchestra and I... I was bewildered by that. 866 00:41:57,295 --> 00:41:59,831 I was like, "Wow, that could be really interesting." 867 00:42:00,798 --> 00:42:05,538 So, uh, I was able to rearrange my music from 'Elect the Dead' 868 00:42:05,570 --> 00:42:07,972 and create a symphonic version of it. 869 00:42:08,005 --> 00:42:10,141 And it turned into 'Elect the Dead' symphony. 870 00:42:10,175 --> 00:42:15,181 ♪ I want you to be left behind those empty walls ♪ 871 00:42:17,583 --> 00:42:21,420 ♪ Taunt you to see ♪ 872 00:42:21,452 --> 00:42:24,255 ♪ Left behind those empty walls ♪ 873 00:42:24,289 --> 00:42:27,593 ♪ Taunt you to see ♪ 874 00:42:27,626 --> 00:42:31,096 ♪ From behind those empty walls ♪ 875 00:42:31,128 --> 00:42:34,165 ♪ From behind those fucking walls ♪ 876 00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:35,835 ♪ From behind those... ♪ 877 00:42:35,867 --> 00:42:38,269 System of a Down's frontman Serj Tankian and 878 00:42:38,302 --> 00:42:41,406 his Serjical Strike Records have hit a little smooth sailing. 879 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,844 So next year, Serj and his label will release several projects, 880 00:42:44,876 --> 00:42:47,579 including Kittens for Christian and avant-garde goth art punk 881 00:42:47,612 --> 00:42:48,813 band... 882 00:42:48,847 --> 00:42:50,114 We had signed this amazing band called Fair to 883 00:42:50,148 --> 00:42:51,383 Midland out of Texas. 884 00:42:51,416 --> 00:42:53,452 Serj says he'll put out five albums a year and continue to 885 00:42:53,485 --> 00:42:55,287 sign bands that inspire him. 886 00:42:56,521 --> 00:42:58,958 And there were a number of record companies interested, 887 00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:02,327 and through Atlantic, uh, the head of Atlantic Records at the 888 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,597 time, I got a, you know, unexpected visit with, 889 00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:08,634 uh, the old, uh, co-chair, you know, 890 00:43:08,666 --> 00:43:12,371 the old CEO, Ahmet Ertegun, who was Turkish. 891 00:43:14,373 --> 00:43:17,208 So we sat down and had a great conversation about music and... 892 00:43:17,242 --> 00:43:20,144 and how much I appreciated the bands that he had signed like 893 00:43:20,177 --> 00:43:21,614 Zeppelin and... and Ray and, like, 894 00:43:21,646 --> 00:43:22,815 all this stuff. 895 00:43:22,847 --> 00:43:25,351 And then, on my way home, I just... something... there was an 896 00:43:25,384 --> 00:43:29,487 inkling feeling inside of me that I needed to kind of ex... 897 00:43:29,521 --> 00:43:32,625 uh, figure out what it was and I typed his name, 898 00:43:32,657 --> 00:43:35,627 Ahmet Ertegun, and I put the world "genocide" behind it and 899 00:43:35,661 --> 00:43:40,164 Googled it, and I realized that he had paid for a lot of foreign 900 00:43:40,197 --> 00:43:45,270 policy think tanks and trusts that were encouraging Congress 901 00:43:45,304 --> 00:43:48,039 not to recognize the Armenian genocide. 902 00:43:48,773 --> 00:43:53,344 He had also paid for chairs at universities that had encouraged 903 00:43:53,378 --> 00:43:55,681 scholars, uh, so-called scholars, 904 00:43:55,713 --> 00:43:57,682 uh, that would deny the Armenian genocide. 905 00:43:57,715 --> 00:44:00,251 Now, this became a big problem, uh, 906 00:44:00,284 --> 00:44:03,922 for me personally, uh, and for the band ultimately. 907 00:44:05,056 --> 00:44:07,392 And then, you know, at that time, 908 00:44:07,425 --> 00:44:11,496 I got news from a very reliable source that there possibly could 909 00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:16,502 be Turkish intelligence sources looking at me to assassinate me, 910 00:44:16,534 --> 00:44:19,938 uh, because of my activism against Dennis Hastert. 911 00:44:19,972 --> 00:44:23,676 Art can be very dangerous, um, which is why tyrants and 912 00:44:23,708 --> 00:44:27,413 tyrannical states love to clamp down on artists. 913 00:44:27,445 --> 00:44:29,514 Um, in February... 914 00:44:29,547 --> 00:44:33,051 There are many situations in life where you don't expect, 915 00:44:33,085 --> 00:44:37,056 you know, something that... that is political or that is social 916 00:44:37,088 --> 00:44:39,525 to interact with the business that you do or with the other 917 00:44:39,557 --> 00:44:40,759 work that you do. 918 00:44:40,793 --> 00:44:44,563 And somehow, it pops up and it challenges your kind of... the... 919 00:44:44,596 --> 00:44:47,432 the narrative of your moral compass. 920 00:44:48,699 --> 00:44:52,270 In the end, we ended up not working with Ahmet Ertegun. 921 00:44:53,371 --> 00:44:57,076 I wanted to talk to you about the latest in terms of genocide 922 00:44:57,108 --> 00:44:58,576 recognition in the US. 923 00:44:58,610 --> 00:45:02,581 Both the Senate and the House introduced new legislation. 924 00:45:02,614 --> 00:45:05,583 It's not just US recognition of the genocide, 925 00:45:05,617 --> 00:45:07,553 it's also a matter of prevention of... 926 00:45:07,585 --> 00:45:11,255 - Right. - Of just genocides in general. 927 00:45:11,289 --> 00:45:15,461 I want us all to put up our right arms in protest, 928 00:45:15,494 --> 00:45:17,262 and I want us all to say... 929 00:45:17,295 --> 00:45:22,101 As President, I will recognize the Armenian genocide! 930 00:45:22,134 --> 00:45:23,769 As President, I will recognize... 931 00:45:23,802 --> 00:45:26,105 Barack Obama has joined a long line of 932 00:45:26,137 --> 00:45:29,107 Presidents who broke their campaign promise to recognize 933 00:45:29,141 --> 00:45:31,143 the Armenian genocide. 934 00:45:38,483 --> 00:45:42,121 Social media has given unadulterated access for 935 00:45:42,153 --> 00:45:44,188 artists, uh, directly to their fanbase, 936 00:45:44,222 --> 00:45:45,758 which didn't exist before. 937 00:45:45,791 --> 00:45:48,394 That's one of the positive aspects for me about it. 938 00:45:48,659 --> 00:45:50,461 But it also allowed me, as an activist, 939 00:45:50,494 --> 00:45:52,364 to express myself. 940 00:45:52,396 --> 00:45:54,365 "We have a lot to learn from the Chilean students 941 00:45:54,398 --> 00:45:55,666 protesting here in Santiago..." 942 00:45:55,701 --> 00:45:59,304 "I hope the Occupy Wall Street movement truly turns into a 943 00:45:59,336 --> 00:46:00,505 political force..." 944 00:46:00,538 --> 00:46:01,673 "I support the Global Zero movement to eliminate all 945 00:46:01,706 --> 00:46:02,907 nuclear weapons by 2030..." 946 00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:06,644 I was thrilled to see the impact I was making on so many issues 947 00:46:06,677 --> 00:46:07,846 across the world. 948 00:46:07,878 --> 00:46:09,047 "I'm appalled by Obama's closeness to this 949 00:46:09,081 --> 00:46:11,517 hypocrite named Erdogan, Turkey's Prime Minister..." 950 00:46:11,550 --> 00:46:12,785 Of course, there was the other side of this, 951 00:46:12,818 --> 00:46:13,819 too. 952 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,789 As time went by and System of a Down didn't make a 953 00:46:17,822 --> 00:46:21,692 record, there was a, uh, growing disgruntlement, 954 00:46:21,726 --> 00:46:25,197 uh, among fans to get a new System record. 955 00:46:36,708 --> 00:46:38,811 I love the fact the he represents the entire metal 956 00:46:38,844 --> 00:46:40,579 community, or she. 957 00:46:50,387 --> 00:46:52,723 I don't want to come across that I know everything 958 00:46:52,757 --> 00:46:55,094 and... and... and whatnot, but, you know, 959 00:46:55,126 --> 00:46:58,262 whatever statement I make is based on an injustice occurring 960 00:46:58,295 --> 00:47:00,832 somewhere that I want to rectify. 961 00:47:00,865 --> 00:47:03,534 And whether I'm right or wrong to do it is... is... is another 962 00:47:03,568 --> 00:47:04,536 factor. 963 00:47:04,568 --> 00:47:05,536 But I need to do it. 964 00:47:05,570 --> 00:47:07,206 It's... it's... it's the truth. 965 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,373 Like, it's gotta come out. 966 00:47:08,405 --> 00:47:09,407 And same with justice. 967 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,877 I feel like the environmental balance that is, 968 00:47:12,911 --> 00:47:17,215 you know, that we're seeing in... in... in climate change is, 969 00:47:17,248 --> 00:47:21,752 uh, also indicative of the human imbalance that is existing due 970 00:47:21,786 --> 00:47:25,257 to wars, profits over people, and all of this stuff. 971 00:47:25,289 --> 00:47:28,860 We have to change our ways in every way for us to survive. 972 00:47:29,862 --> 00:47:31,730 Uh, both in the spiritual world and in the 973 00:47:31,762 --> 00:47:32,563 physical world. 974 00:47:32,597 --> 00:47:34,733 They're all mirrors of each other. 975 00:47:36,001 --> 00:47:37,102 We are at war with the most dangerous enemy 976 00:47:37,135 --> 00:47:39,403 that has ever faced mankind in his long climb... 977 00:47:39,436 --> 00:47:41,405 With 'Harakiri, ' I took on a whole new set of 978 00:47:41,438 --> 00:47:42,339 political issues. 979 00:47:42,373 --> 00:47:43,474 There's no place to escape to. 980 00:47:43,507 --> 00:47:45,710 This is the last stand on Earth. 981 00:47:45,744 --> 00:47:48,747 From corporate greed to climate change. 982 00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:52,251 ♪ We're the day birds ♪ 983 00:47:52,284 --> 00:47:55,653 ♪ Deciding to fly against the sky ♪ 984 00:47:55,686 --> 00:47:56,889 ♪ Within our dreams... ♪ 985 00:47:56,922 --> 00:48:00,592 But a voice for justice always needs to evolve. 986 00:48:00,625 --> 00:48:03,461 So, I began to experiment. 987 00:48:04,329 --> 00:48:07,333 I did 'Orca, ' which was my first symphony. 988 00:48:10,302 --> 00:48:12,271 I did 'Jazz is Christ, ' a jazz record, 989 00:48:12,304 --> 00:48:14,606 with a bunch of really amazing musicians. 990 00:48:17,641 --> 00:48:20,512 I did a musical called 'Prometheus Bound.' 991 00:48:21,447 --> 00:48:24,717 And I also started painting for the first time. 992 00:48:25,583 --> 00:48:27,786 All of my paintings are musically scored, 993 00:48:27,818 --> 00:48:28,786 like a film. 994 00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:30,622 For example, the first piece that I ever did, 995 00:48:30,655 --> 00:48:32,524 you can actually read the music of the first measure. 996 00:48:32,556 --> 00:48:33,457 And it's a piano piece. 997 00:48:33,492 --> 00:48:34,960 It's a beautiful, haunting piano piece. 998 00:48:34,992 --> 00:48:36,761 And I've always thought, like films, 999 00:48:36,795 --> 00:48:39,364 how would one score a series of paintings? 1000 00:48:39,396 --> 00:48:42,634 So I started inserting speakers and MP3 1001 00:48:42,666 --> 00:48:44,936 players within the actual, uh, painting. 1002 00:48:44,969 --> 00:48:47,538 So you've got two speakers on the sides, 1003 00:48:47,572 --> 00:48:48,773 stereo speakers... 1004 00:48:48,806 --> 00:48:51,842 And I got lost in that world and it became another new artistic 1005 00:48:51,876 --> 00:48:53,245 expression. 1006 00:48:54,246 --> 00:48:56,548 Doing all this stuff and coming into my own and feeling 1007 00:48:56,581 --> 00:48:59,351 confident of myself as a songwriter, 1008 00:48:59,384 --> 00:49:00,952 uh, as a composer... 1009 00:49:00,985 --> 00:49:02,788 That sounds much better. 1010 00:49:02,820 --> 00:49:05,824 Uh, it really kind of changed the way that I looked at System 1011 00:49:05,856 --> 00:49:09,961 again, to a point where, when there was that opening for us to 1012 00:49:09,994 --> 00:49:13,965 discuss touring together again, I was way more open to it and... 1013 00:49:13,998 --> 00:49:16,534 and be like "Okay, well, I've done all these things and I'm 1014 00:49:16,568 --> 00:49:18,370 gonna continue doing all these things, 1015 00:49:18,402 --> 00:49:20,238 but if you guys wanna play some music together, 1016 00:49:20,271 --> 00:49:21,739 I think that might be really fun." 1017 00:49:21,773 --> 00:49:22,841 Hello. 1018 00:49:22,873 --> 00:49:23,674 Just want to say hi. 1019 00:49:23,708 --> 00:49:24,643 Hi. 1020 00:49:24,675 --> 00:49:26,510 - Serj. - Michael, nice to meet you. 1021 00:49:33,885 --> 00:49:35,721 We are! 1022 00:49:35,753 --> 00:49:36,887 We're System of a Down! 1023 00:49:39,757 --> 00:49:41,359 So I shot everything. 1024 00:49:41,393 --> 00:49:41,994 Whoa. 1025 00:49:42,027 --> 00:49:43,528 Yo, watch out! 1026 00:49:44,929 --> 00:49:46,831 I strapped a camera on my head... 1027 00:49:46,864 --> 00:49:48,899 I just blinded you with science. 1028 00:49:48,932 --> 00:49:51,737 ♪ She blinded me with science ♪ 1029 00:49:52,237 --> 00:49:53,905 I had spy glasses... 1030 00:49:54,206 --> 00:49:55,874 These are skinny mirrors. 1031 00:49:55,907 --> 00:49:58,410 If you are skinny, you will be skinnier. 1032 00:49:58,443 --> 00:49:59,044 How are you, man? 1033 00:49:59,077 --> 00:50:00,112 How are you? 1034 00:50:00,144 --> 00:50:01,679 - Everything cool? - Good to see you again. 1035 00:50:01,713 --> 00:50:02,948 - Sounds good in the house. - Great, thank you. Thanks for everything. 1036 00:50:02,981 --> 00:50:07,253 I... I think the reason that I wanted to shoot all of that... 1037 00:50:07,452 --> 00:50:11,623 was because, irrespective of feeling confident coming back to 1038 00:50:11,655 --> 00:50:15,893 the System camp, there was still some lingering insecurities 1039 00:50:15,927 --> 00:50:17,062 and... and fears. 1040 00:50:17,094 --> 00:50:18,429 You fuckin' fuck. 1041 00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:20,331 over your head. 1042 00:50:20,364 --> 00:50:24,402 So I think by having a camera in the middle to be able 1043 00:50:24,436 --> 00:50:28,640 to look through kind of gave me the perspective that I needed to 1044 00:50:28,672 --> 00:50:32,310 more comfortably and unemotionally reconnect with my 1045 00:50:32,344 --> 00:50:33,912 past and with my band. 1046 00:50:38,949 --> 00:50:40,652 That was a such a great show. 1047 00:50:40,684 --> 00:50:42,887 That felt like a badass fucking show. 1048 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,855 Woo! 1049 00:50:43,889 --> 00:50:45,757 My girlfriend Ang was on tour with me. 1050 00:50:45,789 --> 00:50:47,358 Hold on, hold on, hold on. 1051 00:50:48,793 --> 00:50:49,461 Okay, got it. 1052 00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:51,596 And George, my manager. 1053 00:50:51,628 --> 00:50:52,963 I tried to come here two hours late. 1054 00:50:52,996 --> 00:50:54,965 I only got here an hour late. 1055 00:50:54,998 --> 00:50:55,699 I'm so disappointed. 1056 00:50:55,733 --> 00:50:57,501 You know, it was just like... 1057 00:50:57,534 --> 00:50:59,637 w... we just... we were having so much fun. 1058 00:51:07,112 --> 00:51:09,014 Look at that view of Jordan. 1059 00:51:09,514 --> 00:51:13,018 And I also filmed my family as we went back to Lebanon. 1060 00:51:16,721 --> 00:51:19,123 We visited the orphanage that took in my grandfather after the 1061 00:51:19,157 --> 00:51:20,726 genocide. 1062 00:51:21,893 --> 00:51:24,096 We went back to the home we lived in before moving to Los 1063 00:51:24,128 --> 00:51:25,496 Angeles. 1064 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:36,807 And I even got to have a concert there with my dad and sing the 1065 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,344 song he taught me so long ago. 1066 00:52:14,711 --> 00:52:17,047 The Armenian homeland was destroyed by the genocide in 1067 00:52:17,081 --> 00:52:18,849 1915. 1068 00:52:18,882 --> 00:52:21,919 But a small part of Armenia actually did survive. 1069 00:52:21,952 --> 00:52:24,889 After two years of independence, it became part of the Soviet 1070 00:52:24,922 --> 00:52:29,927 Union, until finally regaining its independence in 1991. 1071 00:52:30,862 --> 00:52:35,700 I had been to Armenia in 2005, and at that time, 1072 00:52:35,733 --> 00:52:38,437 I was starting to get more interested politically. 1073 00:52:42,206 --> 00:52:43,509 The more I visited Armenia, 1074 00:52:43,541 --> 00:52:46,076 the more I started to see some of the injustices occurring in 1075 00:52:46,110 --> 00:52:49,181 Armenia, mostly having to do with the ruling elite, 1076 00:52:49,213 --> 00:52:52,918 a very corrupt ruling elite, post-Soviet oligarchic ruling 1077 00:52:52,951 --> 00:52:56,554 elite, that felt that they could do whatever they like, 1078 00:52:56,588 --> 00:52:58,423 uh, with impunity. 1079 00:52:59,257 --> 00:53:00,958 There was a depopulation occurring, 1080 00:53:00,992 --> 00:53:03,028 people were leaving the country, they were voting with their 1081 00:53:03,061 --> 00:53:04,930 feet, as it's called. 1082 00:53:05,262 --> 00:53:06,730 Because they couldn't find jobs. 1083 00:53:06,764 --> 00:53:09,768 They didn't have, uh, justice in the courts. 1084 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,737 They weren't able to provide a great comfort and security and... 1085 00:53:13,771 --> 00:53:16,108 and... and lifestyle for their children. 1086 00:53:18,076 --> 00:53:19,945 Now, this was taboo in the Armenian community in the 1087 00:53:19,978 --> 00:53:22,581 diaspora because diasporan Armenians, 1088 00:53:22,614 --> 00:53:25,650 they didn't really want to talk about the injustices in Armenia. 1089 00:53:25,682 --> 00:53:28,920 When you're going to Congress asking for the recognition of 1090 00:53:28,952 --> 00:53:32,791 the genocide, it's not cool for you to mention that there's 1091 00:53:32,824 --> 00:53:34,992 corruption in Armenia, there's some bad shit happening in 1092 00:53:35,025 --> 00:53:37,596 Armenia that need to be resolved as well. 1093 00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:49,641 March 1, 2008 is, uh, kind of indelibly sketched into modern 1094 00:53:50,474 --> 00:53:55,547 Armenian history because there were 10 deaths at a protest 1095 00:53:55,579 --> 00:53:59,985 protesting the election of Serzh Sargsyan as President. 1096 00:54:00,018 --> 00:54:03,255 In Armenia, at least nine people now have died in clashes 1097 00:54:03,288 --> 00:54:06,123 between police and opposition protesters. 1098 00:54:06,157 --> 00:54:09,961 Outgoing President Robert Kocharyan has imposed a... 1099 00:54:09,994 --> 00:54:13,698 People were dying, uh, making their voices heard. 1100 00:54:13,731 --> 00:54:16,167 The protesters accuse the government of rigging 1101 00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,703 last month's presidential election. 1102 00:54:21,706 --> 00:54:24,976 And I was really, really heartbroken that... that Armenia 1103 00:54:25,009 --> 00:54:27,646 is going through this injustice and that, 1104 00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:31,048 you know, this... this hold on, you know, 1105 00:54:31,081 --> 00:54:34,552 uh, the populace and their destiny was happening by a 1106 00:54:34,585 --> 00:54:37,054 handful of el... elitists, corrupt elitists. 1107 00:54:37,088 --> 00:54:39,224 And so I wrote a public letter. 1108 00:54:54,172 --> 00:54:56,574 So after writing that public letter to the President, 1109 00:54:56,608 --> 00:54:59,744 I... I didn't expect a response, a... actually, 1110 00:54:59,777 --> 00:55:01,846 uh, but he did respond, in public, 1111 00:55:01,878 --> 00:55:03,047 with his own letter. 1112 00:55:23,735 --> 00:55:26,771 2015 was the centennial of the Armenian genocide. 1113 00:55:26,804 --> 00:55:28,206 Thursday's vote in the German parliament 1114 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,108 recognizing a genocide of 1.5 million Armenians... 1115 00:55:31,141 --> 00:55:33,043 Germany officially recognized the genocide, 1116 00:55:33,077 --> 00:55:36,048 the... the Vatican officially recognized the genocide. 1117 00:55:43,788 --> 00:55:45,190 It was the first time System of a Down ever played 1118 00:55:45,222 --> 00:55:46,958 in Armenia, as well. 1119 00:55:53,231 --> 00:55:55,066 Here I was, dealing with a government that 1120 00:55:55,099 --> 00:55:56,267 was unjust... 1121 00:56:00,438 --> 00:56:02,273 that I was really rallying against, 1122 00:56:02,306 --> 00:56:04,376 yet I was also... 1123 00:56:04,409 --> 00:56:07,077 spent my whole life fighting for recognition of the Armenian 1124 00:56:07,110 --> 00:56:09,213 genocide, an external injustice. 1125 00:56:20,324 --> 00:56:22,760 You know, I... I stayed up for two nights thinking about how 1126 00:56:22,793 --> 00:56:24,996 I'm... how am I gonna deal with this? 1127 00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:28,833 At the time, it just came to me in the middle of the night, 1128 00:56:28,865 --> 00:56:30,802 and I just said, "You know what? 1129 00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:32,771 I'm a fucking musician, I'm an artist. 1130 00:56:32,804 --> 00:56:35,173 I'm gonna say everything I need to say from my stage, 1131 00:56:35,206 --> 00:56:36,675 from our stage. 1132 00:56:36,708 --> 00:56:39,110 And the rest can fall where it may." 1133 00:56:42,146 --> 00:56:45,250 Before the show, we got together with the guys from 1134 00:56:45,282 --> 00:56:48,185 System in the lobby of the hotel we were at before we got 1135 00:56:48,219 --> 00:56:49,019 onstage. 1136 00:56:49,052 --> 00:56:50,154 I'm honored to be with you guys. 1137 00:56:50,188 --> 00:56:51,123 Me too. 1138 00:56:51,155 --> 00:56:53,791 This... this, like, even more this time... 1139 00:56:53,824 --> 00:56:55,292 And we hugged each other. 1140 00:56:57,161 --> 00:57:00,164 I had this sense of calmness that is rare. 1141 00:57:00,364 --> 00:57:03,434 And I just looked at the guys and it almost felt like we 1142 00:57:03,467 --> 00:57:06,270 were... created... 1143 00:57:06,304 --> 00:57:08,206 to play that night. 1144 00:57:08,672 --> 00:57:09,973 Now, let's go wait for 20 more minutes. 1145 00:57:10,007 --> 00:57:11,309 Where are they? 1146 00:57:11,342 --> 00:57:12,977 From day one, we had songs about being Armenian and 1147 00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:14,345 the whole cause, you know? 1148 00:57:14,378 --> 00:57:16,280 And it was like one head, two head, 1149 00:57:16,313 --> 00:57:17,347 three head, four head. 1150 00:57:18,215 --> 00:57:19,417 And a whole nation got... heard us. 1151 00:57:19,449 --> 00:57:22,152 They're like, "Fuck, they're... they're... those young boys are... 1152 00:57:22,186 --> 00:57:24,155 are... are fucking soldiers." 1153 00:57:24,188 --> 00:57:27,826 We were soldiers with a fucking... with a voice to say 1154 00:57:27,858 --> 00:57:28,726 something. 1155 00:57:29,927 --> 00:57:33,030 It was as poignant moment because all the drama of 1156 00:57:33,063 --> 00:57:35,232 the last 20 years, it just went away. 1157 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,336 And it was just four guys going onstage and playing for their 1158 00:57:39,369 --> 00:57:40,471 people. 1159 00:57:47,378 --> 00:57:49,748 We played an amazing show. 1160 00:57:50,114 --> 00:57:52,750 It was raining, it was really dramatic. 1161 00:57:53,050 --> 00:57:55,420 And the audience was going crazy. 1162 00:57:56,887 --> 00:57:58,355 And I started talking. 1163 00:57:58,389 --> 00:58:00,224 The truth serum kicked in. 1164 00:58:04,228 --> 00:58:06,364 For the last few days... 1165 00:58:07,197 --> 00:58:09,967 I haven't been able to sleep well. 1166 00:58:10,768 --> 00:58:13,739 All I can think about is my grandparents. 1167 00:58:14,405 --> 00:58:16,274 My grandfather... 1168 00:58:17,307 --> 00:58:20,043 My grandfather was five years old when he saw his own father 1169 00:58:20,077 --> 00:58:21,379 die. 1170 00:58:23,146 --> 00:58:25,382 He lost his sight from hunger. 1171 00:58:26,282 --> 00:58:31,288 And I spoke about the hypocrisy of Obama talking about 1172 00:58:31,621 --> 00:58:34,358 recognition of the genocide as a senator before he became 1173 00:58:34,391 --> 00:58:37,895 President and not using the word "genocide" because of Turkish 1174 00:58:37,929 --> 00:58:38,762 pressure. 1175 00:58:38,797 --> 00:58:41,132 So the fact that the US government... 1176 00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:44,434 picks the wrong word to recognize what we know is 1177 00:58:44,467 --> 00:58:48,138 genocide is not only appalling to us, 1178 00:58:48,172 --> 00:58:50,442 it's appalling to Americans. 1179 00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:52,544 And then I talked about the Armenian government. 1180 00:58:52,577 --> 00:58:54,813 We've come a long way, Armenia. 1181 00:58:55,012 --> 00:58:57,382 But there's still a lot of fucking work to do. 1182 00:59:00,585 --> 00:59:02,287 It is the responsibility of the government 1183 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,123 of the Republic of Armenia... 1184 00:59:05,155 --> 00:59:09,427 to bring in the principles of egalitarian civic society. 1185 00:59:14,965 --> 00:59:18,135 Getting rid of the institutional injustice abound... 1186 00:59:22,974 --> 00:59:26,477 and stopping the depopulation that is occurring. 1187 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,282 I didn't know long it would take for the 1188 00:59:31,315 --> 00:59:35,954 reversal of fortunes, but I knew that it was coming. 1189 00:59:45,161 --> 00:59:48,198 In 2017, there were parliamentary elections. 1190 00:59:48,231 --> 00:59:52,202 I saw that as the last hope for Armenia to be able to come back 1191 00:59:52,235 --> 00:59:56,607 into progressive democracy from this oligarchic decline. 1192 00:59:56,641 --> 00:59:57,474 Calm down, man. 1193 00:59:57,507 --> 00:59:58,208 Calm down. 1194 00:59:58,242 --> 00:59:58,743 It's gonna be okay. 1195 00:59:58,775 --> 01:00:00,010 It's gonna be okay. 1196 01:00:00,043 --> 01:00:00,644 You're gonna be fine. 1197 01:00:00,677 --> 01:00:01,746 You're gonna be just fine. 1198 01:00:01,778 --> 01:00:03,614 Just... as long as you vote, you're gonna be fine. 1199 01:00:03,648 --> 01:00:05,350 As long as you vote, you're gonna be fine. 1200 01:00:05,382 --> 01:00:06,516 As long as you vote. 1201 01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:07,818 Myself and a number of, uh, 1202 01:00:07,851 --> 01:00:11,489 artist friends, we went under the coalition called Justice 1203 01:00:11,521 --> 01:00:12,990 Within Armenia. 1204 01:00:13,023 --> 01:00:14,192 Young people, please vote. 1205 01:00:14,224 --> 01:00:17,394 Don't block these elections, because this is your only chance 1206 01:00:17,427 --> 01:00:18,528 to make your voice heard. 1207 01:00:18,563 --> 01:00:21,231 Irrespective of corruption, irrespective of all the 1208 01:00:21,264 --> 01:00:22,400 limitations... 1209 01:00:22,432 --> 01:00:24,501 Some people in... in the government accused us of being 1210 01:00:24,534 --> 01:00:28,505 foreign spies, and to be called a foreign spy in my own, 1211 01:00:28,539 --> 01:00:32,076 you know, cultural homeland, you know? 1212 01:00:32,108 --> 01:00:34,511 And... that really pissed us all off. 1213 01:00:34,545 --> 01:00:36,213 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the FBI ♪ 1214 01:00:36,246 --> 01:00:38,515 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the CIA ♪ 1215 01:00:38,548 --> 01:00:40,518 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the KGB ♪ 1216 01:00:40,550 --> 01:00:43,186 ♪ I don't give a fuck about the FSB ♪ 1217 01:00:43,219 --> 01:00:45,188 Okay, so,... 1218 01:00:47,425 --> 01:00:49,560 We wrote all these statements encouraging monitors to come to 1219 01:00:49,592 --> 01:00:53,464 Armenia and be eyewitnesses to what's going on. 1220 01:01:06,443 --> 01:01:09,047 I went to at least 12 polling stations around the 1221 01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:10,414 country. 1222 01:01:10,447 --> 01:01:13,083 Some guy's writing stuff on a car. 1223 01:01:13,416 --> 01:01:16,554 But we realized quickly that the votes were already bought and 1224 01:01:16,586 --> 01:01:17,755 paid for ahead of time. 1225 01:01:17,788 --> 01:01:21,224 We had a guy who basically was keeping tabs on the voters, 1226 01:01:21,257 --> 01:01:23,694 sitting right behind the ballot box. 1227 01:01:23,728 --> 01:01:26,530 Right in front of the eyes of the OSC, 1228 01:01:26,563 --> 01:01:30,134 right in front of the eyes of the European Council of Nations. 1229 01:01:33,737 --> 01:01:37,274 Right in front of the eyes of all us monitors. 1230 01:01:46,117 --> 01:01:49,287 I was so disappointed, I couldn't even bring myself to go 1231 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,090 speak at the post-election press conference. 1232 01:01:56,126 --> 01:01:59,163 President Serzh Sargsyan's ruling party is 1233 01:01:59,195 --> 01:02:02,266 well ahead in Armenia's landmark election. 1234 01:02:02,298 --> 01:02:05,335 This is the first ballot to usher in a new parliamentary 1235 01:02:05,369 --> 01:02:08,106 system of government, yet critics see the change as an 1236 01:02:08,139 --> 01:02:10,641 effort to prolong his political life. 1237 01:02:10,673 --> 01:02:13,510 And with claims of voting fraud multiplying... 1238 01:02:13,543 --> 01:02:18,016 The Republican Party of Armenia won a huge majority, 1239 01:02:18,048 --> 01:02:22,019 and so it seemed like Armenia's progressive democratic future 1240 01:02:22,052 --> 01:02:23,286 was doomed. 1241 01:02:26,489 --> 01:02:29,393 And I was fucking depressed. 1242 01:02:55,385 --> 01:02:58,523 Power is always afraid of... of means that can 1243 01:02:58,556 --> 01:03:01,659 break out of it: music, dancing, you know, 1244 01:03:01,692 --> 01:03:04,628 anything that can move a soul, you know? 1245 01:03:04,661 --> 01:03:07,197 And stir the soul. 1246 01:03:09,266 --> 01:03:13,070 So... can music change the world? 1247 01:03:15,706 --> 01:03:18,242 Music changes our intuitive hearts. 1248 01:03:18,275 --> 01:03:20,677 Like, our... our... our... music changes the way we feel about 1249 01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:22,246 things. 1250 01:03:22,547 --> 01:03:25,516 How we feel about things can overwhelm our logic. 1251 01:03:25,548 --> 01:03:26,784 Four Armenian kids. 1252 01:03:26,817 --> 01:03:29,853 And now, we're on CNN and there's a riot because of us? 1253 01:03:29,887 --> 01:03:32,557 And our logic being a part of the process can change 1254 01:03:32,590 --> 01:03:33,791 the world. 1255 01:03:33,824 --> 01:03:35,725 We were soldiers with a voice to say 1256 01:03:35,759 --> 01:03:37,027 something. 1257 01:03:37,061 --> 01:03:39,564 That's the true artist's role in society. 1258 01:03:39,597 --> 01:03:42,834 It is our responsibility to push back. 1259 01:03:42,867 --> 01:03:45,870 But it requires people realizing that they have the 1260 01:03:45,902 --> 01:03:47,471 power. 1261 01:03:48,371 --> 01:03:51,208 Open your eyes, open your mouths, 1262 01:03:51,242 --> 01:03:53,544 close your hand and make a fist. 1263 01:03:56,246 --> 01:03:58,282 Down with the system. 1264 01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:18,269 So it's the end of March and Ang goes, 1265 01:04:18,302 --> 01:04:20,438 "Hey, did you check out what's going on in Armenia?" 1266 01:04:20,471 --> 01:04:21,806 And she was looking at Facebook. 1267 01:04:36,487 --> 01:04:37,755 Nikol Pashinyan, who was, 1268 01:04:37,788 --> 01:04:40,490 uh, an opposition member of parliament, 1269 01:04:40,523 --> 01:04:43,460 started a protest walk. 1270 01:04:48,632 --> 01:04:51,135 And this little movement was starting. 1271 01:05:21,498 --> 01:05:24,302 What was really unique about this movement were the 1272 01:05:24,335 --> 01:05:29,340 ethos. 1273 01:05:29,739 --> 01:05:32,376 They said that we want a completely peaceful movement. 1274 01:06:07,878 --> 01:06:10,381 The only way to describe it is decentralized civil 1275 01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:11,582 disobedience. 1276 01:06:16,887 --> 01:06:17,988 Police would come and go, "All right, 1277 01:06:18,021 --> 01:06:19,222 you gotta unblock this intersection," and they would 1278 01:06:19,255 --> 01:06:21,826 just go on the sidewalk and the police would walk away and 1279 01:06:21,858 --> 01:06:23,795 they'd jump, the police would come back... 1280 01:06:25,628 --> 01:06:27,030 I mean, it was like Tom and Jerry! 1281 01:06:27,063 --> 01:06:28,699 It was almost funny. 1282 01:06:34,038 --> 01:06:38,376 This was an ingenious way to show the people that they 1283 01:06:38,409 --> 01:06:39,911 owned the country. 1284 01:06:48,318 --> 01:06:50,887 I want to congratulate you for, so far, 1285 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,290 holding one of the most successful civil disobendience 1286 01:06:53,324 --> 01:06:56,027 campaigns in all of Armenian history. 1287 01:06:56,059 --> 01:06:58,762 You've realized this cultural awakening and decision to pursue 1288 01:06:58,795 --> 01:07:01,398 justice is a basic human right. 1289 01:07:01,431 --> 01:07:05,068 I can see the love in your eyes and in your hearts like I did 1290 01:07:05,101 --> 01:07:08,905 when we played in 2015 with System of a Down from the stage. 1291 01:07:12,943 --> 01:07:15,413 Finally, the government of Armenia realizes that there 1292 01:07:15,445 --> 01:07:17,748 is no way around these protests. 1293 01:07:32,929 --> 01:07:34,964 Serzh Sargsyan, the President, says, 1294 01:07:34,998 --> 01:07:38,601 "Let's talk about what... what your demands are." 1295 01:07:38,635 --> 01:07:41,472 And Nikol says, "We only have one demand..." 1296 01:08:03,994 --> 01:08:06,931 So at this point, I've got this horrendous flu from 1297 01:08:06,963 --> 01:08:07,864 hell. 1298 01:08:07,898 --> 01:08:09,366 There's, like, shit running out of my nose, 1299 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,367 I've got fever. 1300 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,538 But I'm, like, obsessed just watching this 24/7. 1301 01:08:15,172 --> 01:08:16,740 And then suddenly... 1302 01:08:28,185 --> 01:08:31,122 "Serj Tankian, it's time that you come and join your people." 1303 01:08:31,154 --> 01:08:32,856 And I'm like... 1304 01:08:33,689 --> 01:08:35,359 "Oh, my God." 1305 01:09:07,090 --> 01:09:09,760 Next thing you know, you see priests, 1306 01:09:09,792 --> 01:09:13,029 you see soldiers on the street with the people, 1307 01:09:13,063 --> 01:09:14,597 walking arm-to-arm. 1308 01:09:27,944 --> 01:09:30,613 And the announcement comes that the Prime Minister of Armenia 1309 01:09:30,646 --> 01:09:31,314 has resigned. 1310 01:09:31,347 --> 01:09:33,016 "Serzh Sargsyan has resigned." 1311 01:09:38,121 --> 01:09:40,925 An eruption on the streets of Yerevan as 1312 01:09:40,957 --> 01:09:44,894 tens of thousands of citizens flood the capital to celebrate 1313 01:09:44,927 --> 01:09:48,765 the miraculous resignation of Serzh Sargsyan. 1314 01:09:49,132 --> 01:09:51,601 It was a David versus Goliath battle, 1315 01:09:51,635 --> 01:09:53,938 as peaceful protests brought down the most powerful 1316 01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:57,941 government in the history of this post-Soviet nation. 1317 01:11:18,188 --> 01:11:21,190 There were so many people on the street greeting us 1318 01:11:21,224 --> 01:11:23,027 that we couldn't drive. 1319 01:11:27,029 --> 01:11:30,033 I saw thousands of people on the street... 1320 01:11:30,667 --> 01:11:34,305 with the most joy in their eyes that I've ever seen in my life. 1321 01:11:42,712 --> 01:11:44,847 And they were honoring him, 1322 01:11:44,881 --> 01:11:49,887 and me, with traditional Armenian gata and cognac and 1323 01:11:50,119 --> 01:11:51,922 stuff like that, you know? 1324 01:11:54,123 --> 01:11:56,159 It's just so surreal, man. 1325 01:11:56,193 --> 01:11:58,596 It's so surreal. 1326 01:12:15,244 --> 01:12:19,782 We, uh, went to have some tea and... and some dessert. 1327 01:12:19,815 --> 01:12:23,886 He... he's... he's executed the perfect revolution, 1328 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,724 and I'm asking, "So, wh... how many of you were there in the beginning? 1329 01:12:26,756 --> 01:12:27,290 And how was it? 1330 01:12:27,323 --> 01:12:28,058 How did you plan this? 1331 01:12:28,091 --> 01:12:29,159 Was that planned? Was that..." 1332 01:12:29,193 --> 01:12:31,762 Like, he's just, like, answering them and laughing. 1333 01:12:42,104 --> 01:12:45,141 And at one point, he says, "Do you realize something?" 1334 01:12:45,175 --> 01:12:50,181 He goes, "You realize that Anna and I, my wife and I, 1335 01:12:50,780 --> 01:12:54,251 were in the audience in 2015 watching you in System of a 1336 01:12:54,283 --> 01:12:55,152 Down." 1337 01:12:57,287 --> 01:12:58,655 Oh, yeah? 1338 01:13:01,824 --> 01:13:06,229 He goes, "I figured, if you guys can bring 50,000 people, 1339 01:13:06,262 --> 01:13:09,298 we should be able to bring 50... more... more than 50,000 people 1340 01:13:09,332 --> 01:13:10,500 and do a revolution." 1341 01:13:10,533 --> 01:13:12,403 He goes, "That made me feel like this is all possible." 1342 01:13:12,435 --> 01:13:14,170 And I was like... 1343 01:14:17,234 --> 01:14:20,871 I'm so proud that I come from a nation... 1344 01:14:43,894 --> 01:14:45,095 All right. 1345 01:14:45,128 --> 01:14:48,332 I'm so proud that I come from a nation that created a peaceful 1346 01:14:48,364 --> 01:14:53,369 revolution that... that was able to hand people their destiny. 1347 01:14:55,238 --> 01:14:58,876 And it's a lesson to the world that positive change can occur 1348 01:14:58,908 --> 01:15:01,112 in today's era of division. 1349 01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:05,215 And, uh, all this right-wing extremism and all this fucking 1350 01:15:05,247 --> 01:15:07,784 shit going on in the world, there is hope. 1351 01:15:23,166 --> 01:15:26,270 The House voted overwhelmingly to recognize the century-old 1352 01:15:26,302 --> 01:15:28,271 - mass killings... - Mass killings of Armenians 1353 01:15:28,305 --> 01:15:30,106 by Ottoman Turks as genocide. 1354 01:15:30,140 --> 01:15:32,409 As international observers wrote at the time, 1355 01:15:32,442 --> 01:15:35,813 "It was a campaign of race extermination." 1356 01:15:35,845 --> 01:15:38,414 One that we, as members of Congress and as freedom-loving 1357 01:15:38,448 --> 01:15:42,252 people, have a moral obligation to never forget. 1358 01:15:42,284 --> 01:15:44,387 A moment when the House of Representatives refused to be 1359 01:15:44,421 --> 01:15:47,825 enlisted in the cause of genocide denial. 1360 01:15:47,858 --> 01:15:50,961 The non-binding resolution passed 405 to 11. 1361 01:15:50,993 --> 01:15:52,395 The resolution is adopted.