1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:40,866 --> 00:00:42,272 [man] Hello, boys and girls. 4 00:00:42,307 --> 00:00:43,173 This is Tim Ferriss, 5 00:00:43,208 --> 00:00:44,472 and welcome to "The Tim Ferriss Show". 6 00:00:44,507 --> 00:00:45,673 In this episode, we have 7 00:00:45,708 --> 00:00:48,476 one of the most recognized climbers in the world, 8 00:00:48,511 --> 00:00:50,181 Alex Honnold. 9 00:00:50,216 --> 00:00:52,612 -Welcome to the show. -[Alex] Thanks for having me. 10 00:00:52,647 --> 00:00:56,550 [Tim] Alex, who impresses you right now? 11 00:00:56,585 --> 00:01:01,225 [Alex] This kid Marc-André Leclerc. This Canadian guy. 12 00:01:01,260 --> 00:01:02,226 Hardly anyone has heard of him 13 00:01:02,261 --> 00:01:03,527 because he's so under the radar. 14 00:01:03,563 --> 00:01:07,297 He's been doing, like, all kinds of crazy alpine soloing. 15 00:01:07,332 --> 00:01:09,365 [Tim] What makes it so crazy? 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,169 [Alex] He just goes out and climbs 17 00:01:11,204 --> 00:01:13,336 some of the most difficult walls 18 00:01:13,371 --> 00:01:15,107 and alpine faces in the world. 19 00:01:15,142 --> 00:01:16,570 The most challenging things 20 00:01:16,605 --> 00:01:18,803 that anyone's ever climbed, really. 21 00:01:18,838 --> 00:01:20,673 [Tim] So he's just next level? 22 00:01:20,708 --> 00:01:25,183 [Alex] Yeah, it's, like, so crazy. Like, I don't know. 23 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:26,382 [Tim] And for those people 24 00:01:26,417 --> 00:01:28,120 who want to see visuals on this stuff, 25 00:01:28,155 --> 00:01:30,716 we'll grab some video and links... 26 00:01:30,751 --> 00:01:32,751 [Alex] An interesting thing about Marc-André 27 00:01:32,786 --> 00:01:33,752 is I don't know if there is video 28 00:01:33,787 --> 00:01:35,358 of most of the stuff he's doing. 29 00:01:35,393 --> 00:01:36,759 [Tim] Oh, really? 30 00:01:36,795 --> 00:01:38,889 [Alex] Yeah, he's just going out and climbing for himself 31 00:01:38,924 --> 00:01:42,794 in such a pure style. It's pretty full on. 32 00:01:42,829 --> 00:01:46,633 [breathing heavily] 33 00:02:22,308 --> 00:02:24,374 [wind whistles] 34 00:02:29,777 --> 00:02:34,780 [narrator] At 23 years old, Marc-André Leclerc 35 00:02:34,815 --> 00:02:39,752 was already one of the boldest alpinists of his generation. 36 00:02:43,890 --> 00:02:47,529 But he was almost completely unknown. 37 00:03:03,250 --> 00:03:07,780 [narrator] I spent two years following this elusive climber, 38 00:03:12,490 --> 00:03:15,359 trying to document his ascents, 39 00:03:16,923 --> 00:03:21,662 and understand his wild vision of adventure. 40 00:03:43,653 --> 00:03:46,357 [narrator] Throughout my journey with Marc, 41 00:03:46,392 --> 00:03:49,426 I kept coming back to these mysteries 42 00:03:49,461 --> 00:03:51,329 at the heart of climbing 43 00:03:51,364 --> 00:03:54,959 that have gripped me since I was a kid. 44 00:03:57,337 --> 00:04:00,932 Growing up as a young climber in Colorado, 45 00:04:00,967 --> 00:04:07,037 I idolized the legendary free-soloist Derek Hersey, 46 00:04:07,072 --> 00:04:10,678 scaling the cliffs above town with no rope. 47 00:04:10,713 --> 00:04:15,683 Just a chalk bag and a pair of old climbing shoes. 48 00:04:26,025 --> 00:04:27,365 [laughs] 49 00:04:29,666 --> 00:04:33,668 [narrator] But one day, Derek was out soloing 50 00:04:33,703 --> 00:04:36,308 and he fell. 51 00:04:36,343 --> 00:04:38,409 [man] Derek Hersey was killed last week. 52 00:04:38,444 --> 00:04:41,742 Some people thought he had a death wish, but he said, 53 00:04:41,777 --> 00:04:45,350 "There's nothing else that makes me feel so alive." 54 00:04:47,013 --> 00:04:49,079 [Peter] Ever since then, I've been fascinated 55 00:04:49,114 --> 00:04:52,082 by these larger-than-life figures... 56 00:04:52,117 --> 00:04:53,216 Getting ready. 57 00:04:53,252 --> 00:04:56,658 ...who push the limits of adventure in the mountains. 58 00:04:56,693 --> 00:04:57,824 [grunts] 59 00:05:04,536 --> 00:05:06,404 [narrator] I've seen some amazing things... 60 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:09,033 [woman 1] Tommy Caldwell attempting to free climb 61 00:05:09,068 --> 00:05:10,067 the Dawn Wall. 62 00:05:10,103 --> 00:05:12,377 [narrator] ...and been left to grieve... 63 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:14,379 [woman] Dean Potter lost his life. 64 00:05:14,414 --> 00:05:16,777 [narrator] ...when friends died pursuing their passion 65 00:05:16,812 --> 00:05:19,351 [woman 2] One of the world's best-known mountaineers 66 00:05:19,386 --> 00:05:22,079 Ueli Steck has died in an accident. 67 00:05:22,114 --> 00:05:25,423 [narrator] After 20 years of filming, 68 00:05:25,458 --> 00:05:29,724 I'm not sure I've gotten any closer to understanding at all. 69 00:05:29,759 --> 00:05:30,989 Fucking hell. 70 00:05:31,024 --> 00:05:33,926 Check out the no-hands knee bar, baby. 71 00:05:33,961 --> 00:05:35,961 [narrator] Alex, why take the risk? 72 00:05:35,996 --> 00:05:38,535 -Why not use a rope? -Uh... 73 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:40,867 Those are just dumb questions. [laughs] 74 00:05:40,902 --> 00:05:43,441 [cheering] 75 00:05:43,476 --> 00:05:47,874 [narrator] Meanwhile, the sport of climbing has changed a lot. 76 00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:49,810 Let's head to the gym! Boom! 77 00:05:49,845 --> 00:05:52,043 [narrator] What was once a rogue activity 78 00:05:52,078 --> 00:05:56,817 for misfits and vagabonds has hit the big time. 79 00:05:56,852 --> 00:05:59,391 [man] Rock climbing makes its Olympic debut. 80 00:05:59,426 --> 00:06:02,053 [narrator] Climbers have become superstar athletes... 81 00:06:02,088 --> 00:06:03,824 It's raised my profile a little bit, for sure. 82 00:06:03,859 --> 00:06:07,399 ...with armies of social media followers. 83 00:06:07,434 --> 00:06:10,061 And their ascents are celebrated and hyped. 84 00:06:10,096 --> 00:06:11,229 [woman] Professional climbers 85 00:06:11,264 --> 00:06:12,800 are sharing Snapchat videos from Everest. 86 00:06:12,835 --> 00:06:14,098 This is hair by Everest. 87 00:06:14,133 --> 00:06:16,166 It's a new hashtag, it's a thing. 88 00:06:16,201 --> 00:06:18,476 -Hair by Everest. -It's a thing. 89 00:06:20,073 --> 00:06:24,614 So I was surprised to come across an obscure blog post 90 00:06:24,649 --> 00:06:27,881 about an unknown young Canadian climber 91 00:06:27,916 --> 00:06:30,983 by the name of Marc-André Leclerc. 92 00:06:33,119 --> 00:06:38,056 He had climbed a 4,000-foot route of rock and ice 93 00:06:38,091 --> 00:06:41,125 in one of the harshest environments on Earth. 94 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:44,898 And all by himself. 95 00:06:44,933 --> 00:06:47,098 This was a monumental feat, 96 00:06:47,133 --> 00:06:50,200 but it was just a handful of close observers 97 00:06:50,235 --> 00:06:52,675 freaking out about it online. 98 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,647 So, who was this guy? 99 00:07:00,047 --> 00:07:05,050 To find out, I headed up to Squamish, British Columbia, 100 00:07:05,085 --> 00:07:08,889 the heart of the Canadian climbing scene. 101 00:07:10,596 --> 00:07:12,497 [strums guitar] 102 00:07:12,532 --> 00:07:14,664 Weird-looking donuts, guys 103 00:07:14,699 --> 00:07:16,501 We got some fresh bites for you. 104 00:07:16,536 --> 00:07:17,865 -You wanna buy a donut? -Yeah, sure. 105 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,065 Full donut's two bucks. 106 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:22,166 [quiet chatter] 107 00:07:22,872 --> 00:07:25,510 [laughter] 108 00:07:27,074 --> 00:07:28,975 [Peter] When I first met Marc, 109 00:07:29,010 --> 00:07:31,648 I didn't know what to make of him. 110 00:07:33,179 --> 00:07:36,081 This is called "a sky hump into a front flip". 111 00:07:38,558 --> 00:07:40,085 [laughs] 112 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,218 [man] Wow. 113 00:07:41,253 --> 00:07:42,923 You want one? 114 00:07:43,860 --> 00:07:45,222 All right. 115 00:07:47,127 --> 00:07:49,765 [Peter] He was clearly unaccustomed 116 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,064 to being in front of the camera. 117 00:07:52,099 --> 00:07:55,166 Whoa. That's a crazy light. 118 00:07:55,201 --> 00:07:56,805 [Peter] Clap in front of your face. 119 00:08:00,239 --> 00:08:02,206 Cool. So tell us how old you are, 120 00:08:02,241 --> 00:08:04,780 where you're from, and what you do. 121 00:08:04,815 --> 00:08:07,915 Cool. I'm Marc-André Leclerc 122 00:08:07,950 --> 00:08:11,820 and I'm from the Fraser Valley, British Columbia, 123 00:08:11,855 --> 00:08:13,789 lived in BC my whole life. 124 00:08:13,824 --> 00:08:15,890 I'm 23 years old 125 00:08:15,925 --> 00:08:20,059 and I'm a climber, generally speaking. 126 00:08:21,799 --> 00:08:25,295 Yeah, as a young climber growing up in western Canada, 127 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:29,970 Squamish was, like, the place to go. 128 00:08:30,005 --> 00:08:32,577 The most accessible big steep cliff 129 00:08:32,612 --> 00:08:34,612 with super-rad hard routes, 130 00:08:34,647 --> 00:08:38,880 the center of the climbing universe, I guess. 131 00:08:38,915 --> 00:08:41,113 [Peter] Marc had moved to Squamish, 132 00:08:41,148 --> 00:08:42,514 fresh out of high school, 133 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:47,119 eager to join the ranks of the hard-core local climbers. 134 00:08:47,154 --> 00:08:49,088 Right away, as soon as he moved to town, 135 00:08:49,123 --> 00:08:50,189 he was pretty hard to miss 136 00:08:50,224 --> 00:08:54,995 because of his crazy, youthful exuberance and stoke. 137 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:56,865 Come down and switch the rope. 138 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:59,197 [Marc] I think I was, like, pretty dorky. 139 00:09:01,069 --> 00:09:04,906 [laughs] Like, super psyched. 140 00:09:04,941 --> 00:09:07,007 And I was always sort of chomping at the bit, 141 00:09:07,042 --> 00:09:08,008 like, gotta get up early, 142 00:09:08,043 --> 00:09:11,176 like, climb until my fingertips are bleeding. 143 00:09:11,211 --> 00:09:13,343 [groans] 144 00:09:13,378 --> 00:09:16,280 He was not afraid to jump right into the deep end. 145 00:09:16,315 --> 00:09:18,282 [grunts] 146 00:09:18,317 --> 00:09:20,955 Oh, no! Oh, shit. 147 00:09:20,990 --> 00:09:22,726 [man 1] Crazy. 148 00:09:22,761 --> 00:09:25,025 [man 2] He came in just all guns blazing. 149 00:09:25,060 --> 00:09:30,327 I was like, "This kid's a really special breed." 150 00:09:30,362 --> 00:09:33,264 [man] He was a bit young and brash. 151 00:09:33,299 --> 00:09:35,904 You know, it's like, "I'm here," you know what I mean? 152 00:09:35,939 --> 00:09:38,170 But if you're not young and brash 153 00:09:38,205 --> 00:09:39,743 between 17 and about 24, 154 00:09:39,778 --> 00:09:41,173 you might as well shoot yourself, 155 00:09:41,208 --> 00:09:43,109 cos that's when people are young and brash. 156 00:09:45,146 --> 00:09:47,619 [Will] Marc was just a true dirtbag. 157 00:09:47,654 --> 00:09:50,017 Like, seriously broke. 158 00:09:50,052 --> 00:09:53,218 He didn't have a car, he didn't even have a phone. 159 00:09:53,253 --> 00:09:54,956 [Marc] I had a phone for a while. 160 00:09:54,991 --> 00:09:57,827 Left it in a stuff sack with some smoked salmon 161 00:09:57,862 --> 00:10:00,390 and then the phone was stolen by a wild fox. 162 00:10:00,425 --> 00:10:02,161 [Peter] No way! 163 00:10:02,196 --> 00:10:05,197 I feel like maybe I'm just better off without one. 164 00:10:05,232 --> 00:10:06,704 For a couple of summers there, 165 00:10:06,739 --> 00:10:09,740 he was, like, living in a stairwell. 166 00:10:09,775 --> 00:10:11,170 It was surprising when he managed 167 00:10:11,205 --> 00:10:12,104 to find a cute blonde girl 168 00:10:12,140 --> 00:10:14,943 to live in the stairwell with him. [laughs] 169 00:10:14,978 --> 00:10:18,408 His stairwell was just, like, a small futon 170 00:10:18,443 --> 00:10:21,884 at the bottom of the stairwell, like, an entryway. 171 00:10:21,919 --> 00:10:24,887 The longer time I spent there, the more it became decorated. 172 00:10:24,922 --> 00:10:27,087 So then, like, he had tapestries and pictures. 173 00:10:27,122 --> 00:10:31,091 His stairwell became, like, the lounge. 174 00:10:31,126 --> 00:10:33,896 There was no need to live luxuriously, 175 00:10:33,931 --> 00:10:36,866 because we have what we want, which is climbing. 176 00:10:36,901 --> 00:10:43,433 It was easiest just to live as cheaply as we could. 177 00:10:43,468 --> 00:10:47,910 And then we decided to just move into a tent in the forest. 178 00:10:49,276 --> 00:10:50,375 I was attracted to him 179 00:10:50,411 --> 00:10:52,717 because he was so different than anyone I'd ever met. 180 00:10:52,752 --> 00:10:54,983 He was also super socially awkward. 181 00:10:57,823 --> 00:11:00,758 But I didn't care, cos, like, that's who he is 182 00:11:00,793 --> 00:11:03,321 and I love him for that. 183 00:11:03,356 --> 00:11:04,960 -Going on? -Look, there he is. 184 00:11:04,995 --> 00:11:07,963 Your timing's perfect, guys. You nearly missed me. 185 00:11:07,998 --> 00:11:09,131 They call me Hevy Duty. 186 00:11:09,166 --> 00:11:12,264 It's a nickname that's been with me since the early '70s. 187 00:11:12,299 --> 00:11:16,037 I'm more like Light Duty now than Hevy Duty. Or Old Duty. 188 00:11:16,072 --> 00:11:19,810 Hevy is kind of, like, the mayor of Squamish rock climbing. 189 00:11:19,845 --> 00:11:22,241 He's also, like, a hula hoop expert. 190 00:11:29,382 --> 00:11:31,415 [dance music plays] 191 00:11:57,245 --> 00:11:58,475 All right. 192 00:12:10,896 --> 00:12:12,489 I am the hoop guy. 193 00:12:15,802 --> 00:12:17,296 [Peter] Yeah, tell me about Marc-André. 194 00:12:17,331 --> 00:12:19,496 I can tell Marc-André stories all day. 195 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:20,805 [Peter] Please do, yeah. 196 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,939 My first memories of Marc-André 197 00:12:22,974 --> 00:12:25,909 was seeing him come running out of the forest in Squamish, 198 00:12:25,944 --> 00:12:26,943 barefoot with no shirt. 199 00:12:26,979 --> 00:12:29,781 He just broke my speed record on the Grand Wall 200 00:12:29,816 --> 00:12:31,541 and I was just like, "Who is that guy?" 201 00:12:31,576 --> 00:12:35,116 The Grand Wall might be the most iconic route in Squamish. 202 00:12:35,151 --> 00:12:38,416 I'd climbed it the fastest bottom to top. 203 00:12:38,451 --> 00:12:39,484 Speed records are a game. 204 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:41,485 They're not the most important thing in climbing, 205 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,454 but I do love speed records. 206 00:12:43,489 --> 00:12:44,961 And then this local kid, 207 00:12:44,996 --> 00:12:47,161 who I'd never heard of, did it faster. 208 00:12:47,196 --> 00:12:49,262 [Marc] I was soloing the route quite regularly, 209 00:12:49,297 --> 00:12:52,364 and one time, I just decided to see how long it would take me. 210 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:54,366 I got to the top and checked the time, 211 00:12:54,401 --> 00:12:56,533 I was, like, two or three minutes faster 212 00:12:56,568 --> 00:12:59,074 than the established record. 213 00:12:59,109 --> 00:13:02,176 And suddenly, Alex Honnold came back to Squamish 214 00:13:02,211 --> 00:13:05,212 to get his record back on the Grand Wall 215 00:13:05,247 --> 00:13:08,545 that I had kind of, like, unintentionally broken. 216 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:11,988 I was like, "Oh, man, I'm gonna go fast." 217 00:13:14,058 --> 00:13:17,026 He totally destroyed it. He cut my time in half. 218 00:13:17,061 --> 00:13:19,193 [Alex] I think I did quite a bit faster. 219 00:13:21,527 --> 00:13:23,461 Enough so that it discouraged Marc 220 00:13:23,496 --> 00:13:27,234 from ever wanting to try again. [laughs] 221 00:13:27,269 --> 00:13:29,434 Marc is a very, very driven climber, 222 00:13:29,469 --> 00:13:31,975 but he doesn't care about accolades. 223 00:13:32,010 --> 00:13:34,340 He doesn't even care if anybody knows what he's climbing. 224 00:13:34,375 --> 00:13:37,112 I've always approach climbing from an athletic background. 225 00:13:37,147 --> 00:13:37,946 I grew up climbing in the gym 226 00:13:37,981 --> 00:13:39,345 and I think of it more as a sport. 227 00:13:39,380 --> 00:13:40,279 But he cares about, 228 00:13:40,315 --> 00:13:43,118 I don't wanna say the spiritual component, 229 00:13:43,153 --> 00:13:44,416 but he cares about the experience 230 00:13:44,451 --> 00:13:46,220 in the mountains, and the journey, 231 00:13:46,255 --> 00:13:47,452 and just wants to have a good time 232 00:13:47,487 --> 00:13:48,319 while he's out there. 233 00:13:48,355 --> 00:13:51,588 And I really respect that. It's a... 234 00:13:51,623 --> 00:13:53,931 I mean, obviously, it contributes to him 235 00:13:53,966 --> 00:13:56,164 performing at such a crazy level. 236 00:14:01,105 --> 00:14:03,435 [Peter] The first climb we filmed with Marc 237 00:14:03,470 --> 00:14:07,076 was a solo ascent of the Grand Wall. 238 00:14:07,111 --> 00:14:08,506 [birds sing] 239 00:14:15,185 --> 00:14:16,646 It's always nerve-racking 240 00:14:16,681 --> 00:14:21,387 to film someone climbing without a rope. 241 00:14:21,422 --> 00:14:25,358 But for Marc, this was just part of his daily routine. 242 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:29,065 [Marc] When I'm soloing rock climbs, 243 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:31,903 I don't really like to feel like I'm pushing myself. 244 00:14:31,938 --> 00:14:35,170 That's not the reason for soloing rock for me. 245 00:14:35,205 --> 00:14:36,171 I don't like to feel 246 00:14:36,206 --> 00:14:39,108 like I'm doing something intense and scary or... 247 00:14:39,143 --> 00:14:41,341 [Peter] So then why do it? 248 00:14:41,376 --> 00:14:45,642 Like, more just to have a casual fun adventure 249 00:14:45,677 --> 00:14:49,888 and... cruise around. 250 00:15:09,107 --> 00:15:10,634 [Hevy] And when you watch him climb, 251 00:15:10,669 --> 00:15:12,372 he's just magic on the rock. 252 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:20,611 He's got style, he doesn't lunge, he's very precise. 253 00:15:22,087 --> 00:15:24,054 There's not the slightest margin for error 254 00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:26,551 from the minute you set off, is there? 255 00:16:00,026 --> 00:16:05,227 [Peter] Watching Marc move so beautifully up the wall, 256 00:16:05,262 --> 00:16:09,429 it was clear this goofy, unassuming kid 257 00:16:09,464 --> 00:16:12,135 was a master of his craft. 258 00:16:37,558 --> 00:16:40,658 [Brette] I really love just watching him climbing. 259 00:16:43,267 --> 00:16:47,797 Marc is a very calm and, like, steady, controlled climber. 260 00:16:47,832 --> 00:16:51,075 Hey, Marco, I missed you. 261 00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:54,111 [Marc] Yeah, I missed you, too. 262 00:16:54,146 --> 00:16:55,079 [they laugh] 263 00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:57,246 [Brette] I get the fact that he wants to solo, 264 00:16:57,281 --> 00:16:58,447 because I love it, too. 265 00:16:58,482 --> 00:17:01,514 I'm feeling really, like, calm and good with soloing, too, 266 00:17:01,549 --> 00:17:05,650 so I would be psyched on going and climbing... 267 00:17:05,685 --> 00:17:08,389 It puts you directly in the present. 268 00:17:08,424 --> 00:17:11,260 You can't be thinking about anything else. 269 00:17:13,330 --> 00:17:17,200 And you're interacting and improvising in the moment. 270 00:17:18,467 --> 00:17:21,534 And you're just in control. 271 00:17:29,775 --> 00:17:31,610 [Marc] When I first met Brette, 272 00:17:31,645 --> 00:17:34,811 she definitely had a pretty big impact on me. 273 00:17:35,847 --> 00:17:37,550 At that time, I'd lost touch 274 00:17:37,585 --> 00:17:40,685 with the whole climbing portion of my life. 275 00:17:42,326 --> 00:17:46,493 There is a really lively party scene in Squamish. 276 00:17:46,528 --> 00:17:49,463 Definitely got hard into the partying. 277 00:17:49,498 --> 00:17:53,764 At the beginning, it was pretty, like, basic experimentation, 278 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:55,403 like, it was really fun 279 00:17:55,438 --> 00:18:00,639 to experience all these different states of mind. 280 00:18:00,674 --> 00:18:03,444 It's almost like a parallel to climbing. 281 00:18:03,479 --> 00:18:05,578 My friends like to explore a little bit, 282 00:18:05,613 --> 00:18:07,547 and sometimes I like to explore a lot, 283 00:18:07,582 --> 00:18:10,286 and it was the same with the partying. 284 00:18:10,321 --> 00:18:13,223 Everyone would wanna take a tab of acid 285 00:18:13,258 --> 00:18:15,489 and hang out and have a good time, 286 00:18:15,524 --> 00:18:17,788 and I'd wanna take six tabs of acid 287 00:18:17,823 --> 00:18:19,790 and disappear for 20 hours. 288 00:18:19,825 --> 00:18:21,264 [laughs] 289 00:18:23,565 --> 00:18:24,564 But I got to the point 290 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,335 where I felt like I couldn't really do anything 291 00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:28,238 without taking drugs. 292 00:18:30,671 --> 00:18:33,474 Which isn't a healthy place to be. 293 00:18:34,444 --> 00:18:35,477 I remember that. 294 00:18:35,512 --> 00:18:38,776 [Marc] When Brette and I started climbing together, 295 00:18:38,811 --> 00:18:41,713 she was just totally going for it. 296 00:18:41,748 --> 00:18:45,651 Hanging out with her reminded me of what I'd lost, 297 00:18:45,686 --> 00:18:49,754 what it was like to be... spirited. 298 00:18:53,826 --> 00:18:56,464 -[Brette] Fun. -[Marc] Yeah, super fun, hey? 299 00:18:56,499 --> 00:18:58,433 [Brette] Yeah. 300 00:18:58,468 --> 00:19:03,372 I could see how Marc could have easily slid down that path, 301 00:19:03,407 --> 00:19:05,902 the dark side of drug life. 302 00:19:07,741 --> 00:19:10,379 [indistinct conversation] 303 00:19:10,414 --> 00:19:13,415 -[man] Have a good day, guys. -[Marc] Thanks, guys. 304 00:19:15,617 --> 00:19:19,520 [Brette] Marc is interested in intense experiences 305 00:19:19,555 --> 00:19:22,226 and living to the fullest. 306 00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:26,857 Drugs can provide some version of that, but it's not genuine. 307 00:19:26,892 --> 00:19:32,500 And I think he recognized that climbing is the real experience. 308 00:19:32,535 --> 00:19:34,700 -[Marc] Nice, Brette. -[Brette] It's so cool. 309 00:19:34,735 --> 00:19:36,735 [Marc] I know, isn't it beautiful? 310 00:19:36,770 --> 00:19:37,967 [laughs] 311 00:19:38,002 --> 00:19:41,278 -What a fun route. -See? 312 00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:42,675 [Brette] I know for Marc, 313 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:48,384 rock climbing in Squamish is all about having fun. 314 00:19:48,419 --> 00:19:54,456 But Marc's vision is more towards soloing big alpine faces 315 00:19:54,491 --> 00:19:56,656 on beautiful mountains. 316 00:19:56,691 --> 00:20:01,694 He loves the mountains and he is definitely ambitious. 317 00:20:01,729 --> 00:20:04,862 He wants to improve upon what's been done before 318 00:20:04,897 --> 00:20:09,207 to make his contribution to the history of alpinism. 319 00:20:14,841 --> 00:20:17,248 [Peter] Alpinism, the discipline 320 00:20:17,283 --> 00:20:20,284 of climbing big technical mountains, 321 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:21,879 is more than just a sport. 322 00:20:21,914 --> 00:20:26,389 It's an ideal that has evolved over generations. 323 00:20:26,424 --> 00:20:29,260 [pipes blare] 324 00:20:29,295 --> 00:20:31,526 In the first half of the 20th century, 325 00:20:31,561 --> 00:20:36,861 large-scale expeditions used lots of equipment and manpower 326 00:20:36,896 --> 00:20:39,534 to conquer the world's highest peaks. 327 00:20:39,569 --> 00:20:41,437 [newsreel] They stand victorious 328 00:20:41,472 --> 00:20:43,604 on the windswept roof of the world. 329 00:20:43,639 --> 00:20:45,771 [applause] 330 00:20:45,806 --> 00:20:47,106 [Peter] By the 1950s, 331 00:20:47,141 --> 00:20:51,546 it was no longer about getting to the top of the mountain, 332 00:20:51,581 --> 00:20:53,614 but how you got there. 333 00:20:54,914 --> 00:20:56,650 In the European Alps, 334 00:20:56,685 --> 00:20:58,586 there was a revolution 335 00:20:58,621 --> 00:21:02,359 in climbing technique and philosophy. 336 00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:05,329 Smaller teams using less gear 337 00:21:05,364 --> 00:21:09,058 tackled steeper and more dangerous faces. 338 00:21:09,093 --> 00:21:12,963 [man] That was the next step in the evolution of alpinism. 339 00:21:12,998 --> 00:21:16,934 Climbing harder, climbing faster and climbing in better style. 340 00:21:16,969 --> 00:21:21,444 A rope, a rack, and the pack on your back, that's all you get 341 00:21:21,479 --> 00:21:24,007 and you have to make it work with that. 342 00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:28,451 [woman] When you look through the history of alpinism, 343 00:21:28,486 --> 00:21:31,289 climbing was a form of freedom. 344 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:35,084 It was physical freedom, 345 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,593 but it was also a philosophical freedom. 346 00:21:38,628 --> 00:21:44,830 And the ultimate experience of freedom was to climb alone. 347 00:21:44,865 --> 00:21:50,935 Unfettered, unleashed, absolutely solo. 348 00:21:50,970 --> 00:21:55,643 Solo climbing on a high level is an expression of art. 349 00:21:55,678 --> 00:22:01,451 The art of surviving in the most crazy situations. 350 00:22:01,486 --> 00:22:05,081 [Peter] While solo alpinism may be the purest, 351 00:22:05,116 --> 00:22:07,886 most adventurous form of climbing, 352 00:22:08,856 --> 00:22:11,021 it's also the deadliest. 353 00:22:11,056 --> 00:22:16,697 Maybe half of the leading solo climbers of all times 354 00:22:16,732 --> 00:22:17,731 died in the mountains, 355 00:22:17,767 --> 00:22:23,638 and this is tragic and it's difficult to defend. 356 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,973 But this is the philosophy. 357 00:22:29,008 --> 00:22:31,844 If you're going in an adventure, you need difficulties. 358 00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:34,451 You need danger. 359 00:22:34,486 --> 00:22:39,819 If death was not a possibility, coming out would be nothing. 360 00:22:39,854 --> 00:22:42,921 It would be kindergarten. 361 00:22:42,956 --> 00:22:47,090 But not an adventure and not an art. 362 00:22:47,125 --> 00:22:48,795 [wind whistles] 363 00:22:56,508 --> 00:23:00,642 [Peter] A few months after our shoot in Squamish, 364 00:23:00,677 --> 00:23:04,646 we followed Marc to the Canadian Rockies 365 00:23:04,681 --> 00:23:08,683 where he'd come for the world-renowned ice climbing. 366 00:23:09,653 --> 00:23:10,850 [Marc] There's always a point 367 00:23:10,885 --> 00:23:13,886 where I just cannot wait for ice-climbing season. 368 00:23:13,921 --> 00:23:18,495 I'm just ready to go climb frozen waterfalls. 369 00:23:18,530 --> 00:23:23,093 [Peter] Ice climbing is a crucial skill in alpinism. 370 00:23:23,128 --> 00:23:24,294 Over the years, 371 00:23:24,329 --> 00:23:28,439 it's developed into its own highly technical sport 372 00:23:28,474 --> 00:23:32,102 and the ice in Canmore is a proving ground. 373 00:23:33,809 --> 00:23:34,975 By the time we arrived, 374 00:23:35,010 --> 00:23:38,548 Marc had already been there for a few weeks, 375 00:23:38,583 --> 00:23:40,682 camping outside of town 376 00:23:40,717 --> 00:23:43,883 and climbing things that had the locals talking. 377 00:23:43,918 --> 00:23:45,984 [man] First time I heard about Marc-André, 378 00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:47,084 he was living in a snow cave 379 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,856 on the parkway or something. [laughs] 380 00:23:49,891 --> 00:23:54,025 And he was, like, soloing all these ice routes all day long. 381 00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:55,026 I was like, "Here's somebody 382 00:23:55,061 --> 00:23:57,798 who's just going after it and pushing things 383 00:23:57,833 --> 00:24:00,933 that is pretty much unknown." 384 00:24:08,547 --> 00:24:13,682 [man] Ice climbing, solo, it's not something many people do. 385 00:24:15,147 --> 00:24:17,488 You're climbing frozen water 386 00:24:19,118 --> 00:24:21,855 with just a few centimeters of your ice tools 387 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:24,462 and crampons in the ice. 388 00:24:30,569 --> 00:24:32,668 It's a very ephemeral medium. 389 00:24:36,971 --> 00:24:40,071 Climbing something that wasn't there maybe a few weeks earlier 390 00:24:40,106 --> 00:24:43,008 and that might not be there the next day 391 00:24:43,043 --> 00:24:45,747 if the thing you're climbing on decides to collapse. 392 00:24:50,853 --> 00:24:52,281 [Alex] People think the free soloing 393 00:24:52,316 --> 00:24:53,590 that I'm doing seems crazy, 394 00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:54,724 but what I'm doing is on rock. 395 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,826 It's safe in a lot of ways. The medium is super solid. 396 00:24:58,861 --> 00:25:02,500 And then I see Marc-André free soloing on ice and snow. 397 00:25:03,261 --> 00:25:04,931 It just shows so much experience 398 00:25:04,966 --> 00:25:07,197 on such different kinds of terrain. 399 00:25:13,007 --> 00:25:15,546 [man] In all my years of climbing, 400 00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:18,780 I don't think I've seen another climber 401 00:25:18,815 --> 00:25:22,245 quite as hungry for it as Marc-André. 402 00:25:26,724 --> 00:25:30,528 He's got this headspace that nobody else seems to have. 403 00:25:34,061 --> 00:25:36,160 Nothing fazes him. 404 00:26:02,122 --> 00:26:04,287 Marc doesn't just solo the ice, 405 00:26:04,322 --> 00:26:07,290 he goes out and solos mixed routes. 406 00:26:09,701 --> 00:26:11,965 [Marc] With mixed climbing, it's the whole mentality 407 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,300 of the ice doesn't have to be fully formed to be climbed. 408 00:26:17,335 --> 00:26:20,875 [Raphael] Instead of embedding your picks in the ice, 409 00:26:20,910 --> 00:26:25,011 you're just kind of placing them on these little rock edges. 410 00:26:25,046 --> 00:26:28,179 That adds another dimension of insecurity. 411 00:26:50,269 --> 00:26:51,939 [Peter] Filming Marc 412 00:26:51,974 --> 00:26:56,174 on this insecure terrain was terrifying. 413 00:27:00,114 --> 00:27:03,753 But he couldn't have been more relaxed. 414 00:27:03,788 --> 00:27:06,382 [Peter] Holy shit, dude. 415 00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:09,022 Then he took it up a notch 416 00:27:09,057 --> 00:27:14,962 by climbing solo on the notorious Stanley Headwall. 417 00:27:14,997 --> 00:27:17,701 [Marc] The Stanley Headwall is the centerpiece 418 00:27:17,736 --> 00:27:20,231 of Rockies mixed climbing. 419 00:27:20,266 --> 00:27:22,772 None of the ice is a hundred percent continuous. 420 00:27:22,807 --> 00:27:27,172 It forms in blobs, and pillars and hanging daggers. 421 00:27:27,207 --> 00:27:30,175 You have to climb steep, overhanging rock 422 00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:32,012 just to get to the ice. 423 00:27:33,477 --> 00:27:37,083 And so it makes for really good, engaging climbing. 424 00:27:42,486 --> 00:27:44,959 [Barry] There's a high degree of craftsmanship 425 00:27:44,994 --> 00:27:49,898 that has to go into the mixed-climbing equation. 426 00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:52,032 The pick of an ice ax can hang on 427 00:27:52,067 --> 00:27:54,298 to just the smallest of edges. 428 00:28:01,274 --> 00:28:04,847 But you don't have nerves going to the end of the ice ax. 429 00:28:06,081 --> 00:28:09,885 You have to evaluate and test. 430 00:28:13,286 --> 00:28:15,154 [Raphael] The difference between 431 00:28:15,189 --> 00:28:17,255 having your pick solidly seated on a hold 432 00:28:17,290 --> 00:28:22,832 and having that pick explode off of it is very, very small. 433 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,778 [Alex] I don't know if I've seen someone 434 00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:36,879 climb bare-handed with ice tools 435 00:28:38,443 --> 00:28:40,443 in the freezing temps, being able to improvise 436 00:28:40,478 --> 00:28:45,448 between pulling on the rock and pulling on ice tools. 437 00:28:45,483 --> 00:28:48,792 He's just combining all these unconventional tactics. 438 00:30:51,147 --> 00:30:52,542 [ice crunches] 439 00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:23,177 [Barry] Marc soloing the Stanley Headwall, it's just like, "Wow! 440 00:31:23,212 --> 00:31:26,543 I never thought of that in my wildest dreams." 441 00:31:28,118 --> 00:31:32,087 -[Peter] How was it? -It was super fun. Yeah. 442 00:31:32,122 --> 00:31:34,958 -[Peter] Scary? -No, not particularly. 443 00:31:36,654 --> 00:31:42,196 -[Peter] Just another day out? -A really good day out. Yeah. 444 00:31:42,231 --> 00:31:44,528 Definitely a memorable day out. 445 00:31:44,563 --> 00:31:48,004 [Raphael] Marc-André soloing those routes 446 00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:49,434 was pretty stunning. 447 00:31:49,469 --> 00:31:52,569 I think right there that made me sit up and go, "Wow! 448 00:31:52,604 --> 00:31:54,912 Who is this guy?" 449 00:31:59,743 --> 00:32:01,578 [train bell clangs] 450 00:32:06,387 --> 00:32:10,290 [Marc] I grew up near a town called Chilliwack. 451 00:32:10,325 --> 00:32:13,128 In Chilliwack, you become completely desensitized 452 00:32:13,163 --> 00:32:15,658 to the smell of cow manure, 453 00:32:15,693 --> 00:32:18,562 but it's surrounded by beautiful mountains. 454 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,199 When we were growing up, 455 00:32:20,234 --> 00:32:22,467 my dad was doing construction jobs 456 00:32:22,502 --> 00:32:25,536 and my mom was serving in restaurants. 457 00:32:25,571 --> 00:32:27,472 [Peter] Aren't you and your mom really close? 458 00:32:27,507 --> 00:32:28,540 Yeah. 459 00:32:28,575 --> 00:32:33,379 My mom, she's definitely been a big influence on me. 460 00:32:33,414 --> 00:32:34,413 It's kind of hard to explain. 461 00:32:34,449 --> 00:32:38,351 We've just been really good friends my whole life. 462 00:32:38,386 --> 00:32:41,354 Marc-André did have some challenges as a kid. 463 00:32:41,389 --> 00:32:44,423 He certainly didn't come into this world 464 00:32:44,458 --> 00:32:47,228 as a square peg ready to fit into a square hole. 465 00:32:47,263 --> 00:32:50,330 And he had a diagnosis of ADHD. 466 00:32:50,365 --> 00:32:52,761 So, he didn't sit still for very long 467 00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:54,730 and he didn't fit easily 468 00:32:54,765 --> 00:32:58,404 into the typical educational environment. 469 00:32:58,439 --> 00:33:01,539 Kindergarten was awesome, like, that first year. 470 00:33:01,574 --> 00:33:05,345 You build things out of blocks, and do art, 471 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:07,314 and that kind of stuff. 472 00:33:07,349 --> 00:33:09,613 When it started into actual first grade, 473 00:33:09,648 --> 00:33:11,153 and we had to sit at our desks, 474 00:33:11,188 --> 00:33:14,651 it turned into hell for me. [laughs] 475 00:33:14,686 --> 00:33:16,620 For a kid who had a ton of energy, 476 00:33:16,655 --> 00:33:17,521 who loved to learn, 477 00:33:17,556 --> 00:33:20,591 he was losing his, his joy in learning, 478 00:33:20,626 --> 00:33:22,494 you know, to be in school, 479 00:33:22,529 --> 00:33:23,693 so I made the leap 480 00:33:23,728 --> 00:33:27,169 and I schooled him at home for a while. 481 00:33:27,204 --> 00:33:29,435 We'd do some schoolwork for a while. 482 00:33:29,470 --> 00:33:31,734 Usually it would finish at lunchtime. 483 00:33:31,769 --> 00:33:34,143 And we would do cool things together 484 00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:37,443 like go explore the forest and identify plants, 485 00:33:37,478 --> 00:33:40,314 instead of just always sitting at your desk. 486 00:33:40,349 --> 00:33:42,250 [Michelle] If you're never given free rein 487 00:33:42,285 --> 00:33:44,087 to have little adventures as a kid, 488 00:33:44,122 --> 00:33:46,518 you never really learn who you are, 489 00:33:46,553 --> 00:33:48,355 you don't learn what your strengths 490 00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:49,256 or your weaknesses are, 491 00:33:49,291 --> 00:33:53,195 and you never learn that you're capable. 492 00:33:53,230 --> 00:33:56,759 [Marc] She wanted me to discover what I wanted to do 493 00:33:56,794 --> 00:33:59,531 rather than pick out what she thought 494 00:33:59,566 --> 00:34:01,269 I should do with my life. 495 00:34:01,304 --> 00:34:03,568 [Michelle] We may not have had two cents to rub together, 496 00:34:03,603 --> 00:34:04,833 but we always had books 497 00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:07,638 and Marc-André was a voracious reader. 498 00:34:08,806 --> 00:34:12,280 He was really captured by adventure, 499 00:34:12,315 --> 00:34:15,085 so we had a house full of those kind of books. 500 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,581 And the more interest he showed in them, 501 00:34:16,616 --> 00:34:17,846 the more books I provided for him. 502 00:34:17,881 --> 00:34:20,453 I must have been, like, eight years old. 503 00:34:20,488 --> 00:34:22,686 It was this big, awesome picture book 504 00:34:22,721 --> 00:34:25,755 with stories from all these expeditions. 505 00:34:27,561 --> 00:34:28,857 And the ones about mountains 506 00:34:28,892 --> 00:34:31,167 always really captured my attention. 507 00:34:31,202 --> 00:34:32,564 [wind whistles] 508 00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,765 Looking at pictures of big snowy peaks, 509 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,801 guys with ice axes trying to climb these things, 510 00:34:38,836 --> 00:34:40,506 I don't know, it seemed really... 511 00:34:41,542 --> 00:34:42,641 brave. 512 00:34:42,677 --> 00:34:47,612 I was so inspired by all of these climbers of the past 513 00:34:47,647 --> 00:34:50,582 and I wanted to be a part of it. 514 00:34:50,617 --> 00:34:53,618 Like, carrying on the tradition or something. 515 00:34:57,294 --> 00:34:59,822 At first, it was just jeans, running shoes, 516 00:34:59,857 --> 00:35:02,198 a few granola bars in the pocket. 517 00:35:02,233 --> 00:35:06,268 Always off trail, never had a rope or anything. 518 00:35:07,436 --> 00:35:09,238 [Michelle] At times, I was concerned 519 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:11,438 something could happen to him out there, 520 00:35:11,473 --> 00:35:13,605 but he had a great sense of direction, 521 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,774 and he was very confident when he was out and about. 522 00:35:17,809 --> 00:35:20,183 [Marc] After, like, a couple of years 523 00:35:20,218 --> 00:35:21,679 of scrambling around by myself, 524 00:35:21,714 --> 00:35:25,683 it just naturally progressed to technical climbing. 525 00:35:25,718 --> 00:35:28,488 When I'm in the mountains on a big adventure, 526 00:35:28,523 --> 00:35:30,556 life is so incredibly simple. 527 00:35:31,823 --> 00:35:33,526 I'm, like, totally focused. 528 00:35:33,561 --> 00:35:36,331 I don't feel that squirrel-brained, 529 00:35:36,366 --> 00:35:38,234 twitchy sort of stuff. 530 00:35:39,798 --> 00:35:44,900 I have the feeling of clarity and calmness and control. 531 00:35:46,442 --> 00:35:48,541 The whole climbing part of my life, 532 00:35:48,576 --> 00:35:50,708 everything was falling into place. 533 00:35:50,743 --> 00:35:54,250 But then, like, I went back to school for high school. 534 00:35:55,550 --> 00:35:57,352 [Michelle] He eventually had to go back 535 00:35:57,387 --> 00:35:59,486 to the standard curriculum at school. 536 00:35:59,521 --> 00:36:02,357 I think to him it was like a form of incarceration. 537 00:36:02,392 --> 00:36:03,325 Help me! 538 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,426 [Michelle] He was never looking for trouble, 539 00:36:05,461 --> 00:36:08,594 but he certainly seemed to find it. 540 00:36:08,629 --> 00:36:10,398 Firecrackers explode! 541 00:36:10,433 --> 00:36:11,828 [yelps] 542 00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:15,700 [laughs] 543 00:36:15,735 --> 00:36:18,538 -[firecracker explodes] -[laughs] 544 00:36:21,741 --> 00:36:23,444 [grunts] 545 00:36:23,479 --> 00:36:25,875 [Michelle] It was clear he was never going to get 546 00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:28,515 a standard nine-to-five job or life. 547 00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:30,781 He was never wired that way. 548 00:36:30,816 --> 00:36:33,487 Hi, I'm Marc-André Joseph Leclerc. 549 00:36:33,522 --> 00:36:35,390 You might have heard of me. 550 00:36:35,425 --> 00:36:38,360 I am doing some of the biggest walls in the world. 551 00:36:38,395 --> 00:36:40,494 [Michelle] When he graduated at 16, 552 00:36:40,529 --> 00:36:42,925 he was doing drywall, making some money. 553 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,270 He didn't have a real clear purpose or plan at that point. 554 00:36:47,305 --> 00:36:50,768 I told him, "If you want to do this climbing thing, 555 00:36:50,803 --> 00:36:53,474 what are you waiting for?" 556 00:36:53,509 --> 00:36:57,742 And off he went. Marc-André found freedom to be himself. 557 00:36:57,777 --> 00:37:01,977 He's going to go as far as he can take it. 558 00:37:03,552 --> 00:37:06,817 -We got it! -Yeah, yeah. 559 00:37:06,852 --> 00:37:08,423 Can you just do a kind of blank...? 560 00:37:08,458 --> 00:37:09,589 I'm gonna look like an idiot. 561 00:37:09,624 --> 00:37:10,722 Smile. 562 00:37:10,757 --> 00:37:12,889 [laughter] 563 00:37:12,924 --> 00:37:16,629 [Peter] Marc's plan to become a full-time climber 564 00:37:16,664 --> 00:37:19,797 certainly seemed to be working out. 565 00:37:19,832 --> 00:37:23,966 He'd recently landed his first sponsorship. 566 00:37:24,001 --> 00:37:27,574 And here we were making a film about him. 567 00:37:27,609 --> 00:37:29,675 -[Peter] Serious. -Really serious? 568 00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:31,710 [Peter] Really serious, like your passport. 569 00:37:31,745 --> 00:37:32,911 [laughter] 570 00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:37,353 [Peter] But Marc had little patience for posing. 571 00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:40,554 And he was getting restless. 572 00:37:40,589 --> 00:37:42,556 As we were planning the next shoot, 573 00:37:42,591 --> 00:37:45,493 Marc just suddenly dropped off the radar 574 00:37:47,629 --> 00:37:49,794 to who knows where. 575 00:37:51,501 --> 00:37:53,633 [phone rings] 576 00:37:53,668 --> 00:37:57,406 We'd even bought him a phone to keep in contact... 577 00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,441 -[voicemail] I'm sorry. -...but he wasn't picking up. 578 00:37:59,476 --> 00:38:01,377 [voicemail] The person you called has a voicemail box 579 00:38:01,412 --> 00:38:02,311 that has not been set up. 580 00:38:02,347 --> 00:38:05,579 [Peter] It's just a frustrating situation. 581 00:38:05,614 --> 00:38:06,646 [man on speaker] You've got Marc 582 00:38:06,681 --> 00:38:07,680 somewhere in the backwoods. 583 00:38:07,715 --> 00:38:08,780 [Peter] He just disappears 584 00:38:08,815 --> 00:38:10,584 and doesn't call us for months on end, 585 00:38:10,619 --> 00:38:13,048 having all of us waiting and on hold. 586 00:38:13,083 --> 00:38:15,622 [man] My bags are packed. Everyone's bags are packed. 587 00:38:15,657 --> 00:38:18,526 If we don't hear from Marc, we might not do the shoot. 588 00:38:18,561 --> 00:38:19,627 [Peter] We started seeing him 589 00:38:19,662 --> 00:38:22,299 in other climbers' social media posts. 590 00:38:23,698 --> 00:38:27,601 It's day six on the wall and day five of the storm. 591 00:38:27,636 --> 00:38:29,438 [Peter] Brette was posting these videos. 592 00:38:29,473 --> 00:38:30,868 [Brette] What are you doing, Marc? 593 00:38:30,903 --> 00:38:33,508 I'll just get a T-slot my for skis 594 00:38:33,543 --> 00:38:35,840 so I can lower Brette over this cliff. 595 00:38:35,875 --> 00:38:37,842 [Brette] Oh, man. 596 00:38:37,877 --> 00:38:41,384 [Peter] We saw they'd gone all the way out to Baffin Island. 597 00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:44,816 -[Brette] This is so awesome. -[Marc] Whoo! 598 00:38:44,851 --> 00:38:47,489 [Peter] Then Marc was in Scotland 599 00:38:47,524 --> 00:38:49,623 where he knocked off a string of solos 600 00:38:49,658 --> 00:38:51,790 like they were nine holes of golf. 601 00:38:51,825 --> 00:38:54,089 [man] All righty. All righty, then. 602 00:38:59,668 --> 00:39:01,371 [Marc yells] 603 00:39:07,808 --> 00:39:10,545 [Alex] At one point, I was climbing in South America, 604 00:39:10,580 --> 00:39:12,844 we could see this tiny, tiny speck 605 00:39:12,879 --> 00:39:14,615 on this 4,000-foot wall. 606 00:39:14,650 --> 00:39:17,915 We could look over and be like, "That is Marc-André, by himself, 607 00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:19,950 on this fricking journey to the gods." 608 00:39:19,985 --> 00:39:21,050 I was like, "This is messed up. 609 00:39:21,085 --> 00:39:23,393 I cannot believe he's soloing that." 610 00:39:25,595 --> 00:39:28,794 [Peter] Finally, we heard Marc was back in Canada, 611 00:39:28,829 --> 00:39:31,731 climbing in the remote Ghost Wilderness. 612 00:39:32,833 --> 00:39:34,404 In an act of desperation, 613 00:39:34,439 --> 00:39:36,131 I called a filmmaker from the area 614 00:39:36,166 --> 00:39:40,476 to go into the backcountry and track Marc down. 615 00:39:56,890 --> 00:39:58,123 [Peter] He shows up, 616 00:39:58,158 --> 00:40:02,091 and Marc is out there with Brette and a friend, 617 00:40:02,126 --> 00:40:05,732 and they're putting up hard first ascents 618 00:40:05,767 --> 00:40:07,932 on these huge walls, 619 00:40:09,705 --> 00:40:12,508 having the time of their lives. 620 00:40:13,038 --> 00:40:14,411 [Marc grunts] 621 00:40:15,073 --> 00:40:16,875 Nice, Brette. 622 00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:21,649 [grunts] 623 00:40:24,247 --> 00:40:25,686 Falling! 624 00:40:26,524 --> 00:40:27,423 Whoo! 625 00:40:27,459 --> 00:40:29,756 [Brette] Hey, Marco, how is it down there? 626 00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:31,989 It's great. 627 00:40:34,026 --> 00:40:35,124 [Brette] Here we go. 628 00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:36,631 [Marc laughs] 629 00:40:39,504 --> 00:40:40,336 [Brette] I think it's so cool 630 00:40:40,372 --> 00:40:43,231 that you're making a movie about Marc. 631 00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:47,675 But honestly, he doesn't care about movies. 632 00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:50,876 He's not gonna put the time and energy 633 00:40:50,911 --> 00:40:55,045 into making his own climb significant to the world. 634 00:40:56,686 --> 00:40:59,082 He's out climbing, he's too busy climbing. 635 00:41:03,594 --> 00:41:06,562 Pretty incredible, the weather. 636 00:41:06,597 --> 00:41:11,226 [Nick] He's different than any climber we've ever dealt with. 637 00:41:11,261 --> 00:41:14,636 He doesn't share any information with us. 638 00:41:14,671 --> 00:41:19,905 It's frustrating, but at the same, it's pretty noble. 639 00:41:19,940 --> 00:41:24,547 Marc just kind of follows his own path. He's a free spirit. 640 00:41:24,582 --> 00:41:27,077 And that can be difficult to plan around. 641 00:41:27,112 --> 00:41:30,586 Kind of makes him lovable in this weird way, you know? 642 00:41:30,621 --> 00:41:33,721 He doesn't give a fuck. 643 00:41:33,756 --> 00:41:36,856 [Peter] This whole time, chasing Marc around, 644 00:41:36,891 --> 00:41:41,795 it was clear he was building up to something big. 645 00:41:41,830 --> 00:41:45,062 But we had no idea what it would be. 646 00:41:46,098 --> 00:41:48,505 Then the news broke. 647 00:41:50,201 --> 00:41:52,971 He had made the first-ever solo 648 00:41:53,006 --> 00:41:56,711 of the Emperor Face on Mount Robson. 649 00:41:56,746 --> 00:42:00,110 And it sent shockwaves through the climbing world. 650 00:42:00,145 --> 00:42:02,849 [man] When I heard that Marc had soloed the Emperor Face, 651 00:42:02,884 --> 00:42:05,786 it was one of those like, "Holy shit! 652 00:42:05,821 --> 00:42:08,118 Marc soloed the Emperor Face." 653 00:42:08,153 --> 00:42:09,922 That is absolutely outstanding 654 00:42:09,957 --> 00:42:11,990 and probably the greatest solo ascent 655 00:42:12,025 --> 00:42:15,532 of anything that's been done in North America. 656 00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,736 [Barry] Robson is the king. 657 00:42:21,771 --> 00:42:25,069 It's the highest mountain in the Canadian Rockies. 658 00:42:27,007 --> 00:42:30,305 It's like three El Caps. 659 00:42:30,340 --> 00:42:34,012 But Robson is not Yosemite. [laughs] 660 00:42:34,047 --> 00:42:39,655 It's got glaciation, it's got crevasses, it's got avalanche. 661 00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:44,627 You're climbing rock, ice and snow all at the same time. 662 00:42:44,662 --> 00:42:47,993 It's a legendary, mythical objective, 663 00:42:48,028 --> 00:42:49,830 even with a rope. 664 00:42:52,703 --> 00:42:55,264 [Peter] I was frustrated that Marc 665 00:42:55,299 --> 00:42:57,365 had made this historic ascent 666 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,808 and he hadn't even let us in on his plan. 667 00:43:02,713 --> 00:43:07,243 Eventually, we reached Marc and asked him why. 668 00:43:07,278 --> 00:43:09,685 [Marc] When you guys approached me about doing a film, 669 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,346 it seemed like a cool experience, 670 00:43:11,381 --> 00:43:13,216 but I've never let you guys 671 00:43:13,251 --> 00:43:15,922 come and shoot one of my real solos. 672 00:43:15,957 --> 00:43:17,056 [Peter] Why not? 673 00:43:17,092 --> 00:43:19,387 [Marc] Because it wouldn't be a solo to me 674 00:43:19,422 --> 00:43:21,125 if somebody was there. 675 00:43:22,326 --> 00:43:26,999 Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true. 676 00:43:27,034 --> 00:43:29,837 [Marc] It's just a completely different experience 677 00:43:29,872 --> 00:43:31,135 if somebody comes with you. 678 00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:34,710 Yeah, even if they don't help you. 679 00:43:34,745 --> 00:43:36,976 It just wouldn't even be remotely close 680 00:43:37,011 --> 00:43:39,407 to the adventure that I was looking for. 681 00:43:39,442 --> 00:43:40,508 The only way I was interested 682 00:43:40,543 --> 00:43:42,784 was actually doing it fully by myself. 683 00:43:42,819 --> 00:43:47,283 And if that happened, I'd be OK to go back and film. 684 00:43:47,318 --> 00:43:50,253 I had this really awesome experience. 685 00:43:50,288 --> 00:43:53,795 Now, I'm actually ready to share it with people. 686 00:43:56,393 --> 00:44:02,298 [Peter] So Marc invited us back up to film on Mount Robson 687 00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:08,678 so we could see first-hand his approach to solo alpinism. 688 00:44:13,113 --> 00:44:15,949 [Marc] For me, the very best climbs 689 00:44:15,984 --> 00:44:19,216 are when you can walk up to a mountain with nothing 690 00:44:19,251 --> 00:44:23,022 except for your ability to climb, and that's it. 691 00:44:27,259 --> 00:44:33,032 Being by yourself out there, immersed in your environment, 692 00:44:33,067 --> 00:44:36,068 tuning in to the rustle of the leaves... 693 00:44:36,103 --> 00:44:37,300 [wind blows] 694 00:44:37,335 --> 00:44:40,105 ...the sound of the wind across the ridge, 695 00:44:42,043 --> 00:44:45,110 the aura that the mountain has. 696 00:44:47,378 --> 00:44:49,719 [Peter] On his big mountain solos, 697 00:44:49,754 --> 00:44:53,250 Marc follows a simple set of rules. 698 00:44:53,285 --> 00:44:56,121 He carries no communication device 699 00:44:56,156 --> 00:45:00,697 that could be used as a lifeline if things go wrong. 700 00:45:02,327 --> 00:45:04,294 And he climbs on sight, 701 00:45:04,329 --> 00:45:07,363 meaning he's never been on the mountain before, 702 00:45:07,398 --> 00:45:10,135 never rehearsed the route. 703 00:45:11,468 --> 00:45:14,909 He has to figure it out on the fly. 704 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:22,444 [Barry] The gold standard of alpinism is the on-sight solo. 705 00:45:22,479 --> 00:45:28,087 A climber approaches a mountain without any prior knowledge 706 00:45:28,122 --> 00:45:31,959 and just climbs it. [laughs] 707 00:45:34,964 --> 00:45:37,525 But it's only for the very best climbers 708 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,065 on their very best days. 709 00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:40,902 You know, it's such a deadly game. 710 00:45:43,170 --> 00:45:46,875 [Marc] The goal is to climb as safely as possible. 711 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:49,405 But when you step into the mountains, 712 00:45:51,145 --> 00:45:53,816 and there's stuff that's beyond your control. 713 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,282 You control what you're doing, 714 00:45:58,317 --> 00:46:00,482 but you can't control what the mountain's doing, 715 00:46:00,517 --> 00:46:04,057 and that's by far the biggest danger in my mind. 716 00:46:04,092 --> 00:46:05,861 The mountains are alive all around you 717 00:46:05,896 --> 00:46:07,896 and you're kind of at their mercy. 718 00:46:09,262 --> 00:46:12,395 You have to think about avalanches, 719 00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:15,871 seracs that can collapse at any time. 720 00:46:15,906 --> 00:46:18,038 You have to learn to read the signals 721 00:46:18,073 --> 00:46:20,436 that the mountains are sending you. 722 00:46:21,912 --> 00:46:24,440 The conditions of the snow, the ice, 723 00:46:24,475 --> 00:46:26,981 what time of day is it gonna get sun, 724 00:46:27,016 --> 00:46:31,084 what the weather's gonna do. It's like a game of chess. 725 00:46:32,483 --> 00:46:34,318 You have this ultimate goal, 726 00:46:34,353 --> 00:46:38,124 but then unpredictable things are going to happen. 727 00:46:46,398 --> 00:46:49,938 I think that interaction with the environment, 728 00:46:49,973 --> 00:46:51,335 with the mountain, 729 00:46:51,370 --> 00:46:52,534 is, like, a huge part 730 00:46:52,569 --> 00:46:56,010 of what makes alpine climbing so interesting. 731 00:46:57,607 --> 00:47:01,279 And if you're smart and you, like, make the right moves, 732 00:47:01,314 --> 00:47:05,019 you can, sometimes against the odds, 733 00:47:05,054 --> 00:47:07,285 pull off a great climb. 734 00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:10,024 [wind blows] 735 00:47:16,901 --> 00:47:18,263 One of the coolest feelings 736 00:47:18,298 --> 00:47:23,103 that a human can experience is, like, to feel so small 737 00:47:23,138 --> 00:47:25,402 in a world that's so big. 738 00:47:40,452 --> 00:47:44,091 [Barry] Moving over the mountain unencumbered 739 00:47:44,126 --> 00:47:46,929 is about as close as you're gonna come as a climber 740 00:47:46,964 --> 00:47:51,230 to sprouting wings and being totally free. 741 00:47:54,466 --> 00:47:58,908 Absolutely awake, absolutely alive. 742 00:47:58,943 --> 00:48:02,912 Receiving any kind of impulse that's coming in 743 00:48:02,947 --> 00:48:06,014 and reacting to it almost instinctively. 744 00:48:08,084 --> 00:48:10,051 It's a great dance. 745 00:48:31,976 --> 00:48:33,404 [Jim] Marc is doing things 746 00:48:33,439 --> 00:48:36,407 that people thought could never be done. 747 00:48:36,442 --> 00:48:39,212 He's redefining what's possible. 748 00:48:39,247 --> 00:48:41,577 This is the evolution of alpinism, 749 00:48:41,612 --> 00:48:43,612 and it's happening right now in our backyard, 750 00:48:43,647 --> 00:48:46,186 and it's happening with that young guy. 751 00:48:54,130 --> 00:48:57,032 [wind whistles] 752 00:48:57,067 --> 00:49:01,564 But I am definitely concerned for Marc-André 753 00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,533 and anyone else pushing the limit 754 00:49:03,568 --> 00:49:06,140 of what's been accomplished soloing. 755 00:49:06,175 --> 00:49:11,178 The place he is in is such a special, finite place, 756 00:49:11,213 --> 00:49:14,478 and such an incredibly risky place. 757 00:49:14,513 --> 00:49:18,284 Marc-André is playing with a pretty heavy deck right now. 758 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:23,586 He is walking relatively close to the edge in big environments. 759 00:49:23,621 --> 00:49:26,688 I think he can do a fair amount of that and get away with it, 760 00:49:26,723 --> 00:49:28,624 but sooner or later, 761 00:49:29,528 --> 00:49:30,661 it's gonna bite him. 762 00:49:30,696 --> 00:49:34,564 He is gaining recognition because of his solo climbing, 763 00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:36,764 and all of this is wonderful for him, 764 00:49:36,799 --> 00:49:38,634 and it's exciting to hear about, 765 00:49:38,669 --> 00:49:41,175 and read about and watch. 766 00:49:42,805 --> 00:49:46,774 But... I mean, maybe it's just an age thing, 767 00:49:46,809 --> 00:49:49,678 but I find it a little bit scary. 768 00:49:49,713 --> 00:49:52,417 I just... You know, I just hope he's careful. 769 00:49:52,452 --> 00:49:57,389 He's really comfortable in mountainous terrain. 770 00:49:57,424 --> 00:50:02,130 Sometimes I wonder if he's just almost too comfortable. 771 00:50:02,165 --> 00:50:06,332 One could say that it's crazy and irresponsible 772 00:50:06,367 --> 00:50:11,634 to place yourself in that kind of danger for what? 773 00:50:11,669 --> 00:50:13,438 Kicks, glory? 774 00:50:13,473 --> 00:50:16,408 I think that free soloing is a very emotionally charged subject 775 00:50:16,443 --> 00:50:18,542 and so it draws strong reactions from everybody. 776 00:50:18,577 --> 00:50:21,215 If you fall and die, everybody thinks you're an idiot, 777 00:50:21,250 --> 00:50:24,548 you're a risk-taker, daredevil, like, "What an idiot." 778 00:50:24,583 --> 00:50:27,254 If you succeed, everyone celebrates you as a big hero. 779 00:50:27,289 --> 00:50:29,553 But the reality is you're the same person either way. 780 00:50:33,229 --> 00:50:35,625 [Marc] People are always freaking out about soloing, 781 00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:38,628 "It's such an unacceptable risk. People shouldn't be doing this. 782 00:50:38,663 --> 00:50:41,400 What kind of example does this set?" 783 00:50:41,435 --> 00:50:43,633 I mean, I know it's dangerous. 784 00:50:43,668 --> 00:50:45,503 I'm not, like, deluding myself 785 00:50:45,538 --> 00:50:47,802 that it's not dangerous to go soloing, 786 00:50:47,837 --> 00:50:49,705 but I probably just have 787 00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:53,379 a different view of everything, I guess. 788 00:50:53,414 --> 00:50:58,087 You know, like, to me, it's not really an unacceptable risk. 789 00:50:58,122 --> 00:51:02,685 I'm still so young. There are so many things I wanna do. 790 00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,622 I've really had to think about it within our own lives, 791 00:51:05,657 --> 00:51:07,756 because we do put ourselves in situations 792 00:51:07,791 --> 00:51:10,099 that anything could happen. 793 00:51:10,134 --> 00:51:12,662 Like, an avalanche could take you out randomly. 794 00:51:12,697 --> 00:51:14,664 The more times you put yourself in that situation, 795 00:51:14,699 --> 00:51:17,106 the more likely it's gonna happen. 796 00:51:17,141 --> 00:51:19,801 And yeah, sometimes it's concerning 797 00:51:19,836 --> 00:51:23,706 the amount of soloing he wants to do. 798 00:51:23,741 --> 00:51:28,612 He has an insatiable desire to do more at an extreme level. 799 00:51:29,582 --> 00:51:33,320 I worry for him, of course. 800 00:51:44,663 --> 00:51:47,202 [Peter] A few months after Robson, 801 00:51:47,237 --> 00:51:49,534 Marc set off for Patagonia 802 00:51:49,569 --> 00:51:53,802 at the far southern tip of South America. 803 00:51:53,837 --> 00:51:57,839 His objective was a climb that had never been attempted. 804 00:51:57,874 --> 00:52:01,348 A winter solo ascent of Torre Egger, 805 00:52:01,383 --> 00:52:05,847 the most difficult peak in the range. 806 00:52:05,882 --> 00:52:08,322 Patagonia's jagged summits 807 00:52:08,357 --> 00:52:12,161 are a proving ground for serious alpinists, 808 00:52:12,196 --> 00:52:15,560 who gather each summer in the village of El Chaltén. 809 00:52:16,926 --> 00:52:18,059 But in the winter, 810 00:52:18,094 --> 00:52:21,896 the mountains are lashed by vicious storms 811 00:52:21,931 --> 00:52:24,899 and El Chaltén is a ghost town. 812 00:52:30,808 --> 00:52:35,448 [Jon] To go winter climbing in Patagonia solo, 813 00:52:35,483 --> 00:52:37,582 he's definitely upping the game by a lot. 814 00:52:37,617 --> 00:52:41,784 Going to Patagonia in the winter! It's just mindboggling. 815 00:52:41,819 --> 00:52:44,193 [Jon] The weather is horrific. 816 00:52:44,228 --> 00:52:46,591 [Barry] Avalanche hazards can be extremely high. 817 00:52:46,626 --> 00:52:48,956 [Jon] And trying to solo Torre Egger on sight. 818 00:52:48,991 --> 00:52:52,399 I mean, Torre Egger is a coveted peak. 819 00:52:52,434 --> 00:52:56,799 Some people consider it the hardest peak in the Americas. 820 00:52:56,834 --> 00:52:59,340 [Hevy] People ask me, "Don't you worry he's not coming back?" 821 00:52:59,375 --> 00:53:01,243 I just shake my head, 822 00:53:01,278 --> 00:53:04,642 "Marc will be coming back. He's got this sixth sense." 823 00:53:09,550 --> 00:53:13,882 [Peter] Soloing Torre Egger had long been a dream of Marc's. 824 00:53:13,917 --> 00:53:17,886 So he obviously didn't want a big film crew. 825 00:53:17,921 --> 00:53:21,824 But this time, he was willing to bring one cameraman, 826 00:53:21,859 --> 00:53:24,926 his climbing buddy, Austin Siadak. 827 00:53:24,961 --> 00:53:27,467 I'm gonna basically just try to keep up, 828 00:53:27,502 --> 00:53:30,371 tag along, and document as best as I can along the way. 829 00:53:30,406 --> 00:53:33,836 I don't wanna, like, impose on his experience. 830 00:53:33,871 --> 00:53:37,444 [Peter] Austin would hang with Marc in town 831 00:53:37,479 --> 00:53:38,512 and shoot some climbing 832 00:53:38,547 --> 00:53:41,217 on the lower sections of the route. 833 00:53:43,012 --> 00:53:47,289 But for the summit push, Marc would climb alone 834 00:53:47,324 --> 00:53:48,851 and bring a small camera 835 00:53:48,886 --> 00:53:52,756 to capture what he could in real time. 836 00:53:52,791 --> 00:53:55,429 Yeah, this is Torre Egger. 837 00:53:57,532 --> 00:54:00,533 I've been thinking about this climb 838 00:54:00,568 --> 00:54:03,503 for the better part of a year. 839 00:54:03,538 --> 00:54:05,769 If there's ice, it might be quick 840 00:54:05,804 --> 00:54:09,311 to go straight up this ice gully under the serac and then... 841 00:54:09,346 --> 00:54:12,809 Torre Egger is this 1,000-meter rock pillar 842 00:54:12,844 --> 00:54:16,879 rising up out of the glacier with an ice arête in the middle. 843 00:54:16,914 --> 00:54:20,289 You know, not always perfect rock 844 00:54:20,324 --> 00:54:23,820 and capped with ice mushrooms. 845 00:54:23,855 --> 00:54:26,295 I could look at it on paper and be like, 846 00:54:26,330 --> 00:54:31,531 "OK, like, this is totally mathematically, like, feasible." 847 00:54:31,566 --> 00:54:34,435 But at the same time, it still seems a little bit out there, 848 00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:38,802 like, "Whoa, this is the next step for me." 849 00:54:38,837 --> 00:54:42,311 I spent the majority of the last year doing things 850 00:54:42,346 --> 00:54:44,005 that would prepare me for this climb. 851 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,580 A ton of mixed climbing, and a ton of ice climbing, 852 00:54:47,615 --> 00:54:49,780 and then the Emperor Face. 853 00:54:49,815 --> 00:54:55,049 It was all sort of preparation with Egger in mind. 854 00:54:58,824 --> 00:55:01,561 Just gonna check weather models. 855 00:55:01,596 --> 00:55:04,729 I check all these models multiple times a day. 856 00:55:04,764 --> 00:55:08,568 Friday morning, the wind rolls in, with precip. 857 00:55:10,506 --> 00:55:12,836 When the lines are close together, 858 00:55:12,871 --> 00:55:14,673 that means a lot of wind. 859 00:55:14,708 --> 00:55:15,971 [wind gusts] 860 00:55:16,006 --> 00:55:18,809 The peaks right now are just getting nuked. 861 00:55:18,844 --> 00:55:22,813 We have to hang out in town and wait for a weather window. 862 00:55:24,652 --> 00:55:27,488 Coming down here by yourself in the winter time... 863 00:55:27,523 --> 00:55:28,951 [speaks Spanish] 864 00:55:28,986 --> 00:55:32,559 ...you become immersed in the El Chaltén life. 865 00:55:34,926 --> 00:55:36,860 Hanging out with the locals. 866 00:55:36,895 --> 00:55:40,369 And they're making you part of the family. 867 00:55:42,472 --> 00:55:43,671 [speaks Spanish] 868 00:55:43,707 --> 00:55:47,673 Yeah, it's actually like a big part of the whole experience. 869 00:55:47,708 --> 00:55:51,446 [conversation in Spanish] 870 00:55:56,717 --> 00:55:58,079 [laughs] 871 00:55:59,115 --> 00:56:03,656 [they laugh] 872 00:56:10,929 --> 00:56:13,094 [in Spanish] 873 00:56:19,135 --> 00:56:22,444 [rock music] 874 00:56:51,167 --> 00:56:54,168 [Marc] Just checking the latest meteogram. 875 00:56:54,203 --> 00:56:57,545 Looks good, like, Tuesday, Wednesday. 876 00:56:57,580 --> 00:57:00,680 -[Austin] What does that mean? -Means we're going climbing. 877 00:57:06,721 --> 00:57:09,084 Part of the crux of soloing in these mountains 878 00:57:09,119 --> 00:57:11,218 is the amount of stuff that you have to carry. 879 00:57:11,253 --> 00:57:12,824 It's pretty heavy. 880 00:57:12,859 --> 00:57:14,925 Like, when you have to put everything on your back 881 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,762 and just, like, solo with the pack on. 882 00:57:16,797 --> 00:57:20,931 This bag, like, ripped open. I've taped it shut. 883 00:57:20,966 --> 00:57:24,704 It's lost half its insulation. It just means it's even lighter. 884 00:57:25,674 --> 00:57:27,839 It's even more super light. 885 00:57:29,513 --> 00:57:33,680 [Austin] 886 00:57:33,715 --> 00:57:38,850 Well, I don't wanna sound grim or fatalistic, 887 00:57:38,885 --> 00:57:41,050 but it's, you know, undeniable 888 00:57:41,085 --> 00:57:43,954 that every time you go to the mountains, 889 00:57:43,989 --> 00:57:46,627 it could be your last time, 890 00:57:46,662 --> 00:57:50,895 so all these things that you love you have to appreciate. 891 00:57:54,703 --> 00:57:57,264 Whatever dinner you'd want to possibly be your last dinner, 892 00:57:57,299 --> 00:58:00,267 you have to eat it. 893 00:58:00,302 --> 00:58:04,205 Cos you're going to the mountains. [laughs] 894 00:58:06,242 --> 00:58:07,945 Yeah. 895 00:58:10,246 --> 00:58:11,817 [birds sing] 896 00:58:28,165 --> 00:58:30,968 [Reinhold] The whole game is very simple. 897 00:58:37,647 --> 00:58:40,912 We go somewhere that we should not go. 898 00:58:43,081 --> 00:58:47,886 Where our own instinct is telling us, "Do not go there." 899 00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:54,860 Many things can happen. 900 00:58:57,194 --> 00:58:59,128 We can fall. 901 00:59:00,197 --> 00:59:03,033 The storm can take me away. 902 00:59:03,068 --> 00:59:05,937 We know that we could die up there. 903 00:59:11,879 --> 00:59:14,913 But still, we go there. 904 00:59:16,851 --> 00:59:20,919 We try to make real our dreams. 905 00:59:21,889 --> 00:59:23,790 Our visions. 906 00:59:27,092 --> 00:59:30,357 [Marc] I had spent a whole year imagining this climb, 907 00:59:30,392 --> 00:59:33,734 and I felt like I had the skills to do it, 908 00:59:33,769 --> 00:59:36,231 and it would require all of them. 909 00:59:36,266 --> 00:59:39,036 But I don't know the route whatsoever. 910 00:59:39,071 --> 00:59:44,305 No idea how this is gonna go. Like, no idea what to expect. 911 00:59:46,210 --> 00:59:49,783 Conditions are definitely tough right now. 912 00:59:49,818 --> 00:59:50,717 You can see my trail there. 913 00:59:50,753 --> 00:59:53,886 I was literally digging through a trench, 914 00:59:53,921 --> 00:59:56,691 through chest-deep snow with wind slab on top, 915 00:59:56,726 --> 01:00:01,729 and I think there could be a lot of this kind of snow 916 01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:03,698 on the hanging glacier in the gully. 917 01:00:03,733 --> 01:00:05,359 And not only is it really hard work, 918 01:00:05,394 --> 01:00:09,363 I think avalanche conditions could be quite dangerous. 919 01:00:09,398 --> 01:00:13,906 So I'm gonna go over and see how the rock is 920 01:00:13,941 --> 01:00:16,040 and see if that goes. 921 01:00:17,241 --> 01:00:19,813 I started on really snowed-up rock, 922 01:00:19,848 --> 01:00:21,815 which took quite a long time. 923 01:00:21,850 --> 01:00:24,147 Well, two pitches of climbing 924 01:00:24,182 --> 01:00:27,656 and it's kind of heinous, actually. 925 01:00:27,691 --> 01:00:29,053 Here's my tracks. 926 01:00:30,892 --> 01:00:33,123 I have to go tack along the edge of that serac 927 01:00:33,158 --> 01:00:35,356 and bivvy on top of it. 928 01:00:35,391 --> 01:00:39,899 The climbing was hard and slow. Conditions were awful. 929 01:00:39,934 --> 01:00:42,165 I think the route goes up there. 930 01:00:46,105 --> 01:00:48,369 I had to keep taking my gloves off. 931 01:00:48,404 --> 01:00:51,746 My hands were numb because of the cold. 932 01:00:53,178 --> 01:00:55,277 Almost on top of the glacier. 933 01:00:55,312 --> 01:00:56,883 [exhales] 934 01:00:56,918 --> 01:01:00,183 Definitely challenging so far. 935 01:01:00,218 --> 01:01:02,922 There's my backpack that I'm hauling up. 936 01:01:02,957 --> 01:01:04,253 Check out my hands. 937 01:01:04,288 --> 01:01:06,090 My fingers were bleeding 938 01:01:06,125 --> 01:01:09,797 and everything was just kind of gnarly. 939 01:01:09,832 --> 01:01:13,328 Well, here I am at the top of the hanging glacier 940 01:01:13,363 --> 01:01:16,001 and I'm settled in for the night. 941 01:01:16,036 --> 01:01:19,070 I originally hoped to be six pitches higher than this 942 01:01:19,105 --> 01:01:23,107 on the snow arête. Not going as fast as I wanted to. 943 01:01:30,050 --> 01:01:32,853 You split left off of that hanging glacier 944 01:01:32,888 --> 01:01:34,921 and that brings you to the snow arête 945 01:01:34,956 --> 01:01:37,088 in the middle of the east pillar. 946 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,421 I've come a good ways now. 947 01:01:40,456 --> 01:01:44,260 Here's the snow arête that I wanted to make it to yesterday, 948 01:01:44,295 --> 01:01:46,394 but, you know, it just goes how it goes. 949 01:01:46,429 --> 01:01:49,298 There's the upper headwall, so we'll see. 950 01:01:49,333 --> 01:01:50,805 I might be able to keep going 951 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,774 even if I have to make one extra bivvy, 952 01:01:52,809 --> 01:01:54,204 one more than planned. 953 01:01:55,405 --> 01:01:57,207 You're switching constantly 954 01:01:57,242 --> 01:01:59,979 between boots, crampons and rock shoes. 955 01:02:01,180 --> 01:02:03,081 You'll climb an ice pitch 956 01:02:03,116 --> 01:02:07,481 and then all of a sudden, you're on a rock pillar climbing 5.10. 957 01:02:10,827 --> 01:02:13,421 Or mixed climbing 958 01:02:13,456 --> 01:02:17,161 through some narrow gully filled with ice. 959 01:02:24,808 --> 01:02:28,238 It's just, like, everything in the repertoire. 960 01:03:10,084 --> 01:03:12,348 Well, I'm in the upper ramp, 961 01:03:12,383 --> 01:03:14,889 looking down the route. 962 01:03:14,924 --> 01:03:16,121 Whoo! 963 01:04:00,167 --> 01:04:02,101 When you encounter a situation 964 01:04:02,136 --> 01:04:05,236 where you're like, "OK, this is real. 965 01:04:09,275 --> 01:04:13,046 I can either keep it together and do this 966 01:04:13,081 --> 01:04:16,214 or I can, like, fall apart and have a meltdown." 967 01:04:19,681 --> 01:04:21,989 You gotta do one or the other. 968 01:04:31,935 --> 01:04:35,365 And that process of evaluating the situation, 969 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,138 and then getting it together, and carrying on, 970 01:04:41,978 --> 01:04:44,308 it's a challenge every time. 971 01:05:03,197 --> 01:05:08,068 Well, persevering, and things are working out. 972 01:05:08,103 --> 01:05:09,300 Quite the view. 973 01:05:09,335 --> 01:05:12,567 I'm literally in the middle of the headwall. 974 01:05:12,602 --> 01:05:16,703 I'm stomping out this sick little platform to sleep on, 975 01:05:16,738 --> 01:05:20,146 the only place I could find to bivvy, which is super cool. 976 01:05:20,181 --> 01:05:22,313 I'm gonna freeze my ass off tonight, 977 01:05:22,348 --> 01:05:24,953 that's for sure, but that's OK. 978 01:05:24,988 --> 01:05:28,022 Yesterday, progress was so slow and difficult 979 01:05:28,057 --> 01:05:29,991 that it was kind of discouraging, 980 01:05:30,026 --> 01:05:31,685 but now I'm in a really good position 981 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,160 to go for the summit tomorrow morning. 982 01:05:34,195 --> 01:05:36,426 I'm only a few pitches away. 983 01:05:36,461 --> 01:05:39,627 So as long as the weather holds, I'm psyched. 984 01:05:41,301 --> 01:05:43,433 [wind whistles] 985 01:05:52,345 --> 01:05:56,281 Hey, Brette, this video's for you. 986 01:05:56,316 --> 01:05:59,218 I just wanted to, uh... 987 01:05:59,253 --> 01:06:01,286 let you know that when I'm out here 988 01:06:01,321 --> 01:06:03,057 in these mountains by myself, 989 01:06:03,092 --> 01:06:05,257 I really miss you. 990 01:06:05,292 --> 01:06:09,756 And I'm thinking about you a lot, 991 01:06:09,791 --> 01:06:14,761 and there's a part of me that... 992 01:06:14,796 --> 01:06:18,732 wishes I could just quickly rap to the ground, 993 01:06:18,767 --> 01:06:21,504 and get out of here, and change my flights, 994 01:06:21,539 --> 01:06:26,410 and come back and see you, cos I'd love to... 995 01:06:27,644 --> 01:06:31,349 just... yeah, see you. 996 01:06:34,618 --> 01:06:36,552 I love you. 997 01:06:36,587 --> 01:06:38,587 [wind whistles] 998 01:06:44,529 --> 01:06:46,727 I woke up at around five in the morning, 999 01:06:46,762 --> 01:06:51,765 peeked outside my sleeping bag. A full snowstorm was starting. 1000 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,471 Now, I just have to pack up as quick as I can 1001 01:06:54,506 --> 01:06:59,080 and rappel the whole mountain in blizzard conditions. 1002 01:07:01,678 --> 01:07:03,150 I hope it goes well, 1003 01:07:03,185 --> 01:07:06,549 cos it's a long and complicated way down. 1004 01:07:10,852 --> 01:07:12,390 Holy shit! 1005 01:07:29,838 --> 01:07:33,675 Well, I'm back in my tent. 1006 01:07:33,710 --> 01:07:38,812 I am sorry to say that I did not reach the summit. 1007 01:07:38,847 --> 01:07:42,321 But... I survived, 1008 01:07:42,356 --> 01:07:46,490 which I think counts for a lot. 1009 01:07:46,525 --> 01:07:50,164 Kind of a bummer, cos I made it within four pitches of the top. 1010 01:07:50,199 --> 01:07:53,431 It was still probably one of my very best solo efforts 1011 01:07:53,466 --> 01:07:55,202 in the mountains, 1012 01:07:55,237 --> 01:07:57,468 just in terms of sticking with it 1013 01:07:57,503 --> 01:07:59,602 and coming really close, and... 1014 01:07:59,637 --> 01:08:02,803 And, you know I always said... 1015 01:08:02,838 --> 01:08:05,311 Cos I've always dreamed of trying to solo Egger 1016 01:08:05,346 --> 01:08:07,445 and I always said 1017 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,513 that if you got caught in bad weather 1018 01:08:09,548 --> 01:08:11,581 near the top of Egger by yourself, 1019 01:08:11,616 --> 01:08:17,356 that's the ultimate nightmare, and it actually happened to me, 1020 01:08:17,391 --> 01:08:20,194 and I made it down just fine, so... 1021 01:08:20,229 --> 01:08:23,857 That's kind of... That's cool, I guess. 1022 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,534 [Peter] I was relieved to hear 1023 01:08:30,569 --> 01:08:34,142 that Marc had made it back down. 1024 01:08:34,177 --> 01:08:35,902 [indistinct conversation] 1025 01:08:35,937 --> 01:08:38,542 And after such a close scrape, 1026 01:08:38,577 --> 01:08:41,710 I figured he would just fly home, 1027 01:08:41,745 --> 01:08:45,582 unsuccessful, but safe. 1028 01:08:45,617 --> 01:08:52,292 Well, it's amazing just feeling how tired I am from that climb. 1029 01:08:53,889 --> 01:08:58,199 [conversation in Spanish] 1030 01:08:58,234 --> 01:09:02,203 [Peter] But Marc couldn't let it go. 1031 01:09:02,238 --> 01:09:05,833 He saw another weather window in the forecast, 1032 01:09:05,868 --> 01:09:08,638 this one even shorter than the last. 1033 01:09:08,673 --> 01:09:11,542 [Marc] And on Friday, you have half of a good day, 1034 01:09:11,577 --> 01:09:14,281 and overnight's good. 1035 01:09:14,316 --> 01:09:17,812 [Peter] And he decided to go for it, again. 1036 01:09:17,847 --> 01:09:21,222 This time, he was raising the stakes. 1037 01:09:21,257 --> 01:09:22,850 [Marc] Because I already know the route, 1038 01:09:22,885 --> 01:09:24,819 I decided I could do the route in a day 1039 01:09:24,854 --> 01:09:27,294 without carrying any bivvy equipment. 1040 01:09:28,363 --> 01:09:29,659 But I won't have the option 1041 01:09:29,694 --> 01:09:31,661 of sleeping up there on the mountain. 1042 01:09:31,696 --> 01:09:33,927 I have to go really light and move fast 1043 01:09:33,962 --> 01:09:35,566 in order to get it done. 1044 01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:39,339 Here we go. 1045 01:09:41,574 --> 01:09:43,475 [Peter] For his second attempt, 1046 01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:45,906 Marc would carry just a small pack 1047 01:09:45,941 --> 01:09:49,877 with no sleeping bag, no extra food. 1048 01:09:49,912 --> 01:09:53,881 Just the basic tools to climb light and fast. 1049 01:09:56,688 --> 01:09:58,853 Starting the climb that night, 1050 01:09:58,888 --> 01:10:03,297 he hoped he could get to the summit and back down 1051 01:10:03,332 --> 01:10:06,201 before the next storm crashed in. 1052 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,470 [Austin] Good luck, Marc! 1053 01:10:30,392 --> 01:10:33,261 [Marc] Well, it's 5:45 in the morning 1054 01:10:33,296 --> 01:10:35,890 and I'm back at my first bivvy site 1055 01:10:35,925 --> 01:10:37,397 on top of the hanging glacier. 1056 01:10:37,432 --> 01:10:39,828 It's only taken me a couple of hours to get here. 1057 01:10:40,897 --> 01:10:43,568 So, yeah, off to a good start. 1058 01:10:51,611 --> 01:10:54,007 I'm just going for it, 1059 01:10:54,042 --> 01:10:59,254 just this tiny little adventure on this huge mountain. 1060 01:11:02,523 --> 01:11:04,952 Well, the sun's rising. 1061 01:11:04,987 --> 01:11:08,725 Check out how incredible this is. 1062 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,431 I'm more than halfway up the route already. 1063 01:11:20,409 --> 01:11:22,343 Well, I'm in the upper ramp. 1064 01:11:26,976 --> 01:11:28,679 Things are working out. 1065 01:11:40,825 --> 01:11:43,562 I'm on the summit of Egger! 1066 01:11:43,597 --> 01:11:45,300 Super psyched! 1067 01:11:45,665 --> 01:11:47,566 Whoo! 1068 01:11:47,601 --> 01:11:50,503 Yeah, look at this! 1069 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,605 Holy smokes! 1070 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,871 To solo Torre Egger 1071 01:11:55,906 --> 01:11:58,005 seemed like the perfect combination 1072 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,579 of everything I'd learned how to do. 1073 01:12:04,420 --> 01:12:09,885 It's almost like my whole life leading me to a certain place. 1074 01:12:22,163 --> 01:12:23,602 [Austin] Nice work, dude. 1075 01:12:23,637 --> 01:12:26,671 [exhales] Yo. 1076 01:12:26,706 --> 01:12:29,102 -How's it going, dude? -[Austin] How do you feel? 1077 01:12:29,137 --> 01:12:30,103 [laughs] 1078 01:12:30,138 --> 01:12:32,908 -[Austin] Perfect. -Yeah, things are awesome. 1079 01:12:32,943 --> 01:12:35,042 No alpine ascent is truly complete 1080 01:12:35,077 --> 01:12:37,451 until the beers go clink. 1081 01:12:37,486 --> 01:12:39,882 -Cheers. -Cheers, man. 1082 01:12:42,183 --> 01:12:44,590 [in Spanish] 1083 01:12:46,924 --> 01:12:49,694 -Sí. -Sí. 1084 01:12:55,636 --> 01:12:56,932 [laughs] 1085 01:13:03,072 --> 01:13:06,480 [conversation in Spanish] 1086 01:13:07,945 --> 01:13:10,077 [Austin] Psyched to be going back to States? 1087 01:13:10,112 --> 01:13:12,552 Yeah, I'm super stoked to see Brette 1088 01:13:12,587 --> 01:13:16,457 and eventually see the family back up in Canada. 1089 01:13:16,492 --> 01:13:17,986 There's the taxi. 1090 01:13:18,021 --> 01:13:21,594 I have to negotiate, cos I don't have pesos. [laughs] 1091 01:13:38,580 --> 01:13:41,713 [Brette] When Marc comes out of the mountains, 1092 01:13:41,748 --> 01:13:44,716 he has this, like, radiating energy. 1093 01:13:44,751 --> 01:13:48,687 He's had some sort of extreme experience 1094 01:13:48,722 --> 01:13:53,527 that had moved him deeper than anything else could have. 1095 01:13:53,562 --> 01:13:56,728 [Marc] When you're in the mountains with a mission, 1096 01:13:56,763 --> 01:13:59,566 it's like all the superficialities of life 1097 01:13:59,601 --> 01:14:00,767 just sort of evaporate, 1098 01:14:00,802 --> 01:14:04,197 and you can often find yourself in a deeper state of mind, 1099 01:14:04,232 --> 01:14:07,541 and that can stick with you for a while after a big climb. 1100 01:14:07,576 --> 01:14:08,839 [indistinct conversation] 1101 01:14:08,874 --> 01:14:12,106 You appreciate everything so much 1102 01:14:12,141 --> 01:14:14,977 that you take for granted most of the time. 1103 01:14:18,686 --> 01:14:20,983 It's kind of funny. 1104 01:14:21,018 --> 01:14:23,755 The actual achievement doesn't really change your life 1105 01:14:23,790 --> 01:14:26,857 like you think it might, when you're building up to it, 1106 01:14:26,892 --> 01:14:29,222 but what you're left with is the journey 1107 01:14:29,257 --> 01:14:30,993 that got you to that point 1108 01:14:31,028 --> 01:14:33,732 and if you have this big journey 1109 01:14:33,767 --> 01:14:35,261 where you had to figure a lot of stuff out, 1110 01:14:35,296 --> 01:14:38,671 and you had to plan, and it was more immersive, 1111 01:14:38,706 --> 01:14:40,838 and then you were somewhere really beautiful 1112 01:14:40,873 --> 01:14:43,973 for a long time, and then had to work really hard, 1113 01:14:44,008 --> 01:14:46,646 and overcome some kind of mental barrier, 1114 01:14:46,681 --> 01:14:49,880 you're left with so much more of a story 1115 01:14:49,915 --> 01:14:52,982 or, like, a memory and an experience. 1116 01:14:53,017 --> 01:14:56,018 And that's what I find is the most important. 1117 01:15:01,564 --> 01:15:05,126 [Peter] For two years filming Marc's climbs, 1118 01:15:05,161 --> 01:15:08,635 it was like trying to capture lightning in a bottle. 1119 01:15:13,103 --> 01:15:16,643 Now, it was time to assemble the film 1120 01:15:16,678 --> 01:15:20,779 and release Marc back into the wild. 1121 01:15:20,814 --> 01:15:24,684 He still had so many mountains to climb. 1122 01:15:26,248 --> 01:15:28,721 OK, Brette, I'm secure! 1123 01:15:31,121 --> 01:15:32,387 Hey, dude. 1124 01:15:32,423 --> 01:15:37,829 [Peter] And that is where I thought this story would end. 1125 01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:40,196 But while we were editing, 1126 01:15:40,231 --> 01:15:45,298 Marc chased a weather window up to Juneau, Alaska, 1127 01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:48,906 where he met up with a strong local climber, 1128 01:15:48,941 --> 01:15:51,337 Ryan Johnson. 1129 01:15:51,372 --> 01:15:53,812 Climbing as a team, with a rope, 1130 01:15:53,847 --> 01:15:55,275 they made a first ascent 1131 01:15:55,310 --> 01:16:00,148 on the north face of the Mendenhall Towers. 1132 01:16:00,183 --> 01:16:03,591 At the summit, there was cell reception. 1133 01:16:03,626 --> 01:16:09,564 So Marc sent text messages to his mom and to Brette. 1134 01:16:12,096 --> 01:16:15,328 And Ryan sent a video message to his girlfriend. 1135 01:16:15,363 --> 01:16:17,803 Hey, babe, figured why not be up here with me? 1136 01:16:17,838 --> 01:16:21,103 -Marc, right there. -Yeah. 1137 01:16:21,138 --> 01:16:22,368 [Ryan] Pretty amazing up here. 1138 01:16:22,403 --> 01:16:24,007 We've got a long way to get down, 1139 01:16:24,042 --> 01:16:25,075 so we're gonna get to it. 1140 01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:27,978 [Marc] The descent does not look straightforward. 1141 01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:34,248 [Peter] But by the next morning, 1142 01:16:34,283 --> 01:16:36,591 nobody had heard from them. 1143 01:16:38,793 --> 01:16:43,389 Brette was on a sailboat off the coast of Tasmania. 1144 01:16:43,424 --> 01:16:48,867 She was the first to realize they were late to check in. 1145 01:16:48,902 --> 01:16:51,298 She contacted search and rescue, 1146 01:16:51,333 --> 01:16:53,168 took the next flight out, 1147 01:16:53,203 --> 01:16:56,974 and called us when she landed in Alaska. 1148 01:16:59,374 --> 01:17:02,650 -[Peter] Fuck! -Yeah, so I don't know, Pete. 1149 01:17:02,685 --> 01:17:06,082 -I'm so sorry. -I don't know what to do. 1150 01:17:06,117 --> 01:17:09,085 I don't know what's gonna happen 1151 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,890 or what would happen if... 1152 01:17:13,696 --> 01:17:16,961 A climber from Squamish has gone missing in Alaska. 1153 01:17:16,996 --> 01:17:19,931 Marc-André Leclerc and another climber 1154 01:17:19,966 --> 01:17:21,702 were last seen on March 4th. 1155 01:17:21,737 --> 01:17:24,265 [Peter] We followed Brette up to Juneau 1156 01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:28,709 and met Marc's family at the search and rescue office. 1157 01:17:31,307 --> 01:17:33,681 Some of Marc's friends from Squamish 1158 01:17:33,716 --> 01:17:37,113 had come along to help with the search. 1159 01:17:37,148 --> 01:17:38,818 But a storm had rolled in, 1160 01:17:38,853 --> 01:17:43,185 so nobody could get a helicopter in there. 1161 01:17:43,220 --> 01:17:49,224 All we could do was wait for the weather to break 1162 01:17:49,259 --> 01:17:54,834 and hope that somehow, they were still alive up there. 1163 01:18:02,778 --> 01:18:04,844 After four agonizing days, 1164 01:18:04,879 --> 01:18:07,847 the weather finally cleared enough 1165 01:18:07,882 --> 01:18:10,146 for search and rescue 1166 01:18:10,181 --> 01:18:14,183 to fly a helicopter into that zone 1167 01:18:14,218 --> 01:18:17,692 and get visuals of their descent route. 1168 01:18:19,091 --> 01:18:20,257 With all the new snow, 1169 01:18:20,292 --> 01:18:24,094 conditions were too dangerous to land there, 1170 01:18:24,129 --> 01:18:27,130 but they spotted a rope. 1171 01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:33,367 It was covered in avalanche debris 1172 01:18:33,402 --> 01:18:40,110 and it was clear that Marc and Ryan were buried there. 1173 01:18:42,180 --> 01:18:45,819 There was no chance of survival. 1174 01:19:09,306 --> 01:19:14,342 [Brette] We were hoping to do a recovery of their bodies but... 1175 01:19:14,377 --> 01:19:17,884 it didn't happen. They just disappeared into the glacier. 1176 01:19:23,892 --> 01:19:25,991 I remember sitting out there 1177 01:19:26,026 --> 01:19:29,192 on the ice field and wondering, like, 1178 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,295 "Why wasn't I with him?" 1179 01:19:34,430 --> 01:19:37,233 Like, I felt I should've been there. 1180 01:19:38,874 --> 01:19:42,942 I didn't even know that life could be that painful. 1181 01:19:42,977 --> 01:19:46,077 I didn't even know it existed until you experience it. 1182 01:19:46,112 --> 01:19:51,280 It's like we're kind of living in this blissful magical life, 1183 01:19:51,315 --> 01:19:53,986 and then you're hit with this shockwave of pain, 1184 01:19:54,021 --> 01:19:56,120 and you'll never be the same. 1185 01:20:02,062 --> 01:20:05,800 After he died, I just didn't care about anything. 1186 01:20:07,265 --> 01:20:08,803 Nothing mattered. 1187 01:20:10,268 --> 01:20:13,808 Maybe I would just disappear also. 1188 01:20:18,045 --> 01:20:20,881 But then I remembered this conversation 1189 01:20:20,916 --> 01:20:23,147 that I had with Marc. 1190 01:20:23,182 --> 01:20:25,919 Marc said that if something happened to him, 1191 01:20:25,954 --> 01:20:28,416 he wants me to keep going. 1192 01:20:31,223 --> 01:20:34,323 He didn't want me to lose my spirit. 1193 01:20:34,358 --> 01:20:38,195 He just wanted me to keep climbing, keep loving life, 1194 01:20:39,198 --> 01:20:42,837 and be happy. Yeah. 1195 01:20:44,104 --> 01:20:45,532 You have no idea how hard it is. 1196 01:20:45,567 --> 01:20:48,975 In theory you can say it, but to actually be living that... 1197 01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:56,444 I went back to Alaska. 1198 01:20:57,282 --> 01:20:59,315 It's so beautiful there, 1199 01:20:59,350 --> 01:21:04,452 but being there without him felt so awful. 1200 01:21:10,526 --> 01:21:13,967 I was in so much pain 1201 01:21:14,002 --> 01:21:18,004 and the only time I could feel an escape from that 1202 01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:19,874 was being in the mountains. 1203 01:21:22,472 --> 01:21:26,276 I keep returning to these places we climbed together. 1204 01:21:29,149 --> 01:21:32,084 They are infused with him. 1205 01:21:33,615 --> 01:21:38,156 I came upon this piton and I'm certain it's Marc's. 1206 01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:43,029 I feel like you're here, Marc. 1207 01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:46,428 I just miss him so much, like, I miss our adventures together. 1208 01:21:55,274 --> 01:21:58,275 But I know that you'd want me to be here 1209 01:21:58,310 --> 01:22:00,376 and I know that you'd be proud. 1210 01:22:07,088 --> 01:22:08,549 [wind gusts] 1211 01:22:19,496 --> 01:22:21,166 Just his typical smile. 1212 01:22:22,532 --> 01:22:24,334 [sighs] Yeah. 1213 01:22:27,636 --> 01:22:30,945 [Peter] You guys have a similar smile. [laughs] 1214 01:22:33,444 --> 01:22:35,642 [Michelle] How I'm doing is a day-to-day thing. 1215 01:22:37,712 --> 01:22:41,120 Without Marc-André, yeah, 1216 01:22:41,155 --> 01:22:44,024 it was like something was suddenly 1217 01:22:44,059 --> 01:22:47,423 and irrevocably wrong with the universe. 1218 01:22:47,458 --> 01:22:52,494 It was, like, that's just not how it should be. 1219 01:23:02,209 --> 01:23:04,011 I'm sorry. 1220 01:23:06,807 --> 01:23:13,218 In some indefinable way, you've moved to another place 1221 01:23:13,253 --> 01:23:15,990 and you have to learn how to live there. 1222 01:23:29,104 --> 01:23:31,797 [Peter] A few months after the accident, 1223 01:23:31,832 --> 01:23:34,074 friends came to Squamish 1224 01:23:34,109 --> 01:23:37,638 from all over the world to celebrate Marc. 1225 01:23:37,673 --> 01:23:40,674 [chatter] 1226 01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:46,218 [Hugo, in Spanish] 1227 01:23:58,166 --> 01:24:00,595 He was one of a kind. 1228 01:24:00,630 --> 01:24:03,565 He was an individual individual. 1229 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,600 He just burned very bright 1230 01:24:05,635 --> 01:24:07,206 and he left an indelible mark 1231 01:24:07,241 --> 01:24:10,143 on a lot of people in a short time, didn't he? 1232 01:24:14,512 --> 01:24:16,512 Wow, there's a lot of you. 1233 01:24:18,186 --> 01:24:21,748 As any parent knows, raising children is a tough job, 1234 01:24:21,783 --> 01:24:23,354 but I am thankful 1235 01:24:23,389 --> 01:24:25,488 that at least God granted me the grace 1236 01:24:25,523 --> 01:24:27,424 to understand this about my son, 1237 01:24:27,459 --> 01:24:31,098 to not stand in the way of his passion for the mountains. 1238 01:24:44,575 --> 01:24:46,773 [Michelle] Of course, I worried. 1239 01:24:46,808 --> 01:24:49,611 What mother doesn't worry about the children she's raised 1240 01:24:49,646 --> 01:24:50,679 to leave her and go out 1241 01:24:50,714 --> 01:24:54,451 into this beautiful but dangerous and broken world? 1242 01:24:54,486 --> 01:24:57,718 [laughs] It's so exposed. 1243 01:24:57,753 --> 01:24:59,291 [Michelle] I believe Marc-André 1244 01:24:59,326 --> 01:25:01,887 lived the life he was intended to live. 1245 01:25:01,922 --> 01:25:04,857 That he was meant to scale mountains, 1246 01:25:04,892 --> 01:25:08,663 stand on summits, find his way into lonely valleys... 1247 01:25:08,698 --> 01:25:10,203 Super happy. 1248 01:25:10,238 --> 01:25:11,336 [Michelle] ...and love one woman 1249 01:25:11,371 --> 01:25:12,634 with all his heart, his little B. 1250 01:25:12,669 --> 01:25:17,375 -How are you, Brette? -It's pretty chilly. [laughs] 1251 01:25:18,444 --> 01:25:20,444 [Michelle] Tolkien in The Hobbit says, 1252 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,645 "There are no safe paths in this part of the world. 1253 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,351 You're over the edge of the wild now." 1254 01:25:26,386 --> 01:25:28,617 [Marc] Oh, yeah, look at that. 1255 01:25:28,652 --> 01:25:29,585 [Michelle] Well, Marc-André, 1256 01:25:29,620 --> 01:25:31,389 you are truly over the edge of the wild now. 1257 01:25:31,424 --> 01:25:33,886 [Marc] The storm came in with a strong north wind. 1258 01:25:33,921 --> 01:25:36,394 [Michelle] I hope the mountains there are amazing 1259 01:25:36,429 --> 01:25:37,527 and the sunsets are beautiful. 1260 01:25:37,562 --> 01:25:39,595 [Marc] And then it cleared for a bit 1261 01:25:39,630 --> 01:25:41,531 as the eye of the storm passed over us. 1262 01:25:41,566 --> 01:25:42,565 We are all richer 1263 01:25:42,601 --> 01:25:46,767 for calling you son, brother, partner and friend. 1264 01:25:46,802 --> 01:25:48,637 Whoo! 1265 01:25:48,672 --> 01:25:51,310 [Michelle] Thank you for giving us 25 remarkable years. 1266 01:25:51,345 --> 01:25:53,246 Holy fuck! 1267 01:25:53,281 --> 01:25:55,545 [applause] 1268 01:25:57,747 --> 01:25:59,582 Whoo! 1269 01:26:08,395 --> 01:26:11,660 [Peter] Having come to know Marc as a friend, 1270 01:26:11,695 --> 01:26:13,530 as well as a climber... 1271 01:26:14,269 --> 01:26:15,602 [laughs] 1272 01:26:15,637 --> 01:26:21,307 ...it's hard to reconcile the idealism of his ascents 1273 01:26:21,342 --> 01:26:24,178 with the tragic consequences. 1274 01:26:27,843 --> 01:26:29,777 That's why alpinism remains 1275 01:26:29,812 --> 01:26:32,384 such a contradiction in my mind, 1276 01:26:32,419 --> 01:26:33,946 such a mystery. 1277 01:26:37,457 --> 01:26:38,951 But I believe what Marc did 1278 01:26:38,986 --> 01:26:41,723 with his time on Earth was beautiful. 1279 01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:48,862 He followed the course of his own dreams. 1280 01:26:52,736 --> 01:26:54,637 [Michelle] A lot of us live our lives 1281 01:26:54,672 --> 01:26:56,375 thinking of the things we'd like to do 1282 01:26:56,410 --> 01:27:00,478 or the adventures we'd like to have, but we hold back. 1283 01:27:02,812 --> 01:27:05,010 That's what really stands out to me 1284 01:27:05,045 --> 01:27:07,419 about Marc-André's journey. 1285 01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:12,391 It's about what is it that you would do 1286 01:27:12,426 --> 01:27:14,459 if you were able to overcome 1287 01:27:14,494 --> 01:27:17,660 the things that you see as limitations 1288 01:27:17,695 --> 01:27:20,630 or the things that you're afraid of? 1289 01:27:20,665 --> 01:27:22,698 You know, what would you do? 1290 01:27:45,657 --> 01:27:47,657 [wind whistles] 1291 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:25,090 [♪ "Manchester" by Kishi Bashi] 1292 01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:29,028 Subtitles [English SDH]: IYUNO Media Group