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Oh.
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Jess, behind you
on the right.
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On the right. On the right.
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I'm seeing on camera.
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I'm seeing on camera.
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Did you... Oh, my God,
it just [bleep] moved.
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It's moving.
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[Josh] On this episode
of Expedition X...
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-Woo!
-Watch your head. Oh!
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[Josh] My team ventures
to Transylvania's
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Hoia-Baciu Forest.
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[Stefan] And we saw a shadow,
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like a small human figure.
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[Josh] A place many believe
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is the most haunted
in the world.
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[Jessica] Oh, my Gosh, Phil,
there's somebody out here
with me.
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[Josh] As Phil and Jess return
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to the single most terrifying
destination
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I have ever investigated.
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[Phil] I just got goosebumps.
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You seriously just heard
your name.
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[Jessica] Yeah, I just heard
somebody say "Jess."
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[Josh] They uncover
frightening new evidence
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that might unlock the answers
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to this ancient
Romanian mystery.
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[Jessica]
I saw something walking along
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in forest line.
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Phil! Phil! Phil, come here.
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Come here now.
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[screams]
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[suspenseful music playing]
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Okay. So, I wanna start today
by showing you a clip.
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-Are you ready?
-Okay.
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Take a look.
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Nothing's in my left shoulder.
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-What are you talking about?
-I see a light.
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I see somebody walking.
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[Jessica] Oh, who's that
handsome young man?
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Yes, it is a much younger
version of me.
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[woman] Basically, yeah, yeah.
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And I am out in the woods here
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and we are doing
an EVP session.
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This is part of the paranormal
investigation.
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[man] There's a light.
What did you see?
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-[woman speaking]
-And I'm doing
an isolation session here
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and I'm about to trade out
with someone who I think
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-will be familiar to you.
-[Evan] Thirty minutes.
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[Josh] It is...
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-[Jessica] Oh, yeah, Evan.
-[Phil] Hey, Evan.
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Evan B. Stone, our longtime
director of photography here.
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Yeah.
Evan, go for Josh [indistinct]
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This maybe...
This may sound really weird,
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but I'm hearing some...
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Copy that. Just stay with it.
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Things are about to get very,
very strange. Watch this.
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-Oh.
-Whoa.
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So, what happened right then?
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He gets blown back by some
unseen unknown force.
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-So, what--
-Was he okay?
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Yes and no. I mean, he got
out of there in one piece,
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but he was legitimately
shaken up.
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I mean, crying.
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-He was a mess.
-Really?
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-[Josh] Yes.
-Wow.
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So, then where exactly
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were you guys
when this happened?
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Transylvania.
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Ooh, okay.
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This is in Romania.
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This is a place called
the Hoia-Baciu Forest.
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It is a notorious
paranormal hotspot.
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It is the next place
I want you to investigate.
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And it is a place that
I will never, ever forget.
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[Josh] Nestled
in the Carpathian Mountains,
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Transylvania is known
for its mysterious castles
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and dark folklore.
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Most notably, of course,
the legend of Count Dracula,
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believed to be based
on the real life
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of Vlad the Impaler,
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a sadistic 15th
century prince.
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But Vlad is just the tip
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of a very bloody
paranormal lineage.
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While pop culture vampires
are most commonly associated
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with Romanian moroi,
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local lore also swirls
around the undead zombie-like
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terrors of the strigoi.
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Choose your horror and it has
origins in Romania.
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Tales of these
frightening creatures
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have evolved over
Transylvania's very long
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and sometimes
violent history.
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Fought over by the Romans,
Mongols,
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Ottomans, Germans,
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and Hungarians,
it is said the land
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of Transylvania is soaked
in the blood of conflict.
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Many believe all this
hostility has led
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to strange
and dark phenomena.
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Legends of witches,
monsters, and spirits
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all said to stalk
Transylvania's sprawling
wilderness.
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And the Hoia-Baciu Forest
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is said to be the most
horrific of them all.
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The forest's gnarled trees
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twist into other
worldly shapes
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unlike anywhere else
in the country.
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Legend has it, that's because
the entire forest is cursed.
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For generations,
there had been reports
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of disturbing sounds and even
sightings of shadow people.
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Many believe the secret
to solving these mysteries
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resides in an area
of the forest called
the Rotunda,
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where trees are reportedly
unable to grow.
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It's here at the Rotunda
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where our disturbing
experiences
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happened 15 years ago.
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The horrors of Hoia
have been stuck in my mind,
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leaving me obsessed
with a single question.
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Is this forest truly haunted?
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That place seems intense.
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Yes, it is intense.
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And to show you
just how intense,
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I've invited the man
who was there lurking
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in the back, Evan B. Stone.
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-Hey.
-What's up, buddy?
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-Good to see you, man.
-Good to see you, man.
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-Good to see you.
-Yes.
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-Thanks for coming in.
I appreciate it.
-Oh, no worries.
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Evan, safe to say
you remember your trip
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to the Hoia-Baciu Forest?
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Oh, yeah.
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It changed my life really.
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Fourteen years ago,
it feels like just yesterday.
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This is really the event
that made me
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believe in paranormal
activity.
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This wasn't just a feeling.
It was physical.
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What do you mean by physical?
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Like, can you walk us
through it, what happened?
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I was in an isolation session
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where you just stay silent
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-and try to experience it.
Okay?
-Got it.
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And at the time,
I was skeptic.
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25 minutes into the half hour,
I felt this wind.
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It's almost like a tunnel
of wind
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coming to shoot at me.
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And the last thing I knew,
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I was being dragged
and my feet
were just straight,
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and then I just went black.
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-[Phil] Whoa.
-Yeah.
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And then, I woke up.
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That's pretty hardcore.
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That wasn't even
the strangest part.
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I felt this itching on my arm.
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I pulled back my sleeve
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and it was these deep scratch
marks in my arm.
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Like, deep, like,
actual wounds on his arms.
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-You were bleeding?
-[Josh] Yes.
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Yeah. And I still have
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the scars today to prove it.
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-[Phil] Oh, my God.
-And if you guys
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are thinking of going there,
I'd be prepared.
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People always ask me
what's the most compelling
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paranormal evidence
I've ever seen?
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-This is it.
-Yeah.
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You know, I mean,
this is a guy
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who was not out there
looking for ghosts.
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Evan is rational.
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He's out there to do a job.
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And when we came running over
and found you
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laying on the ground,
you were in a terrible state.
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We stopped filming.
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We brought the cameras up
initially,
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and then pretty quickly
just turned them off
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because it was...
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It was too much.
It was like too real.
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And this is the place
you wanna send us?
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That's right.
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A Transylvanian local,
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a guy named Alex Surducan
reached out to us.
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He heard
about Evan's experience
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and our investigations there.
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He says that there is a slew
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of new paranormal encounters,
new evidence, new witnesses.
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So, whatever happened to Evan,
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it sounds like
it's still happening there.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, I think
that's the point, right?
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Like, Evan's experience,
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the fact that you had strange
vibes there,
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and the history,
the lore that's in that area,
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I mean,
it's all very compelling.
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This is, I have to say,
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even for someone
who's skeptically minded,
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this is a place that defies
an easy explanation.
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-Mmm-hmm.
-So, head over to Romania,
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link up with Alex
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and see if you can find
some answers.
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-Will do.
-Okay. We're on it.
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[Josh] It's an 11-hour
flight from New York City
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to Cluj-Napoca,
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the unofficial capital
of Transylvania.
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Today, it's a thriving
and diverse city,
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but over the centuries,
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it's seen more
than its share of war,
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bloodshed,
and violent persecution.
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-All right, Jess.
-Yeah.
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How stoked are you
to be here right now?
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I'm super stoked.
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Seven-year-old goth Jess,
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this is definitely dream
come true level bucket list
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of places to visit.
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I mean, it's Transylvania,
Count Dracula.
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I mean,
right where we're walking
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is where they would hold
witch trials.
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Right here, right here?
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[Jessica]
Right here, right here.
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And then,
even underneath that,
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there's a bunch
of ancient ruins
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that they've uncovered.
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-So, I mean, this place...
-Wow.
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is just littered with history.
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[Josh] Just beyond
the limits of this historic
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yet cosmopolitan city
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sits the darkness
of the Hoia-Baciu Forest.
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Judging by the bumpiness
of the road,
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I think we're getting closer
to the forest.
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I think you're right.
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That's what I think
is really interesting
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is that you go
from relatively modern city
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to immediate country.
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Like, you're having
an espresso in a cafe
one second,
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and then you cross over
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and you are hiking
through the woods.
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You know what I also found
really interesting is that
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we've investigated
some massive,
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-massive wilderness areas.
-[Jessica] Mmm-hmm.
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Everything
from the Big Thicket
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to the Pine Barrens to Peru.
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-Yeah.
-Hoia-Baciu is only 60 acres.
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So, it makes it
one of the smaller
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forests that we've ever
taken on.
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If we think of hauntings
in lore per area,
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this is probably
the most concentrated
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haunted forest in the world.
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[Jessica] What's here?
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-Why here?
-I don't know,
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but I think we're about to get
some answers.
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I think this is our guy,
Alex, right here.
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[Jessica] Josh's expert, Alex,
asked to meet us
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at a remote trail on
the outskirts of Hoia-Baciu.
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A trained physicist,
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Alex has spent the last
15 years of his life
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trying to understand
the forest.
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Welcome Romania.
Welcome to Hoia-Baciu Forest.
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[Jessica] That is cool.
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[Alexandru] The most famous
forest in Transylvania.
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[Phil] What got you interested
in this forest
in the first place?
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[Alexandru]
The stories, of course.
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I was in a university,
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then I was just curious
what's going on here?
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Why so many stories?
So, I just came here
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and in the end,
I learned a lot.
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I found some weird
growing trees.
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I found lots
of unexplained stuff.
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You name it.
Paranormal in general.
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You name it, it's there.
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Why is it getting so many
sightings and experiences?
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I don't really know
exactly why this one,
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but it starts with a circle
in the forest
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where the trees
refuse to grow.
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[Phil] So, that's the Rotunda
we've heard about.
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[Alexandru]
Yes, the point of Rotunda.
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And it still remains a mystery
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as far as why the trees
don't grow there.
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It is a big mystery.
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But it is better to ask
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the people that actually live
near the forest.
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We have shepherds even today
that are all around the forest
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and they do have
recent experience
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because they spend
all their life.
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So, there is one right
after this hill.
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Can you take us over
to meet him?
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-[Alexandru] Yeah, sure.
-Okay. Great.
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-Yeah, we'll follow you.
-[Phil] Great.
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-[Jessica] Let's check out
what he has to say.
-[Phil] Yeah.
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[narrator] Alex takes us
to meet Stefan,
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a local farmer who had
a recent encounter
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that left him paralyzed
by fear
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of what could be hiding
in the nearby woods.
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[Alexandru speaking
foreign language]
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-[Stefan speaking
foreign language]
-Stefan. Stefan.
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-Jessica. Nice to meet you.
-Phil.
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So, can you tell us
about your experience
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out in the forest over there?
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So, one night,
we went into the forest
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to get some wood.
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[indistinct chatter]
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[Stefan] For some reason,
the chainsaw was not working
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and we heard something
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and we thought
it was somebody
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playing tricks on us.
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And then, I saw some movement
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and we saw a shadow,
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like a small human figure.
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And the shadowy figure
was jumping
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from one tree to another,
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like hiding and spying.
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And we couldn't move from
that position until 4:00 a.m.
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We were blocked there.
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I felt like that
thing was stopping us,
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like an invisible force.
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Oh, well, that behavior
of something circling them
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and hiding
and basically stalking them
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does kind of sound like
a predatory wolf behavior.
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Could it have been
a wolf at that time?
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No, it definitely
was not a wolf.
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There were no wolf prints
on the ground.
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[Jessica] If that's the case
with what you experienced,
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what is you think
you ran into?
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I think there are witches
that go there by night
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to make rituals
that might unleash
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some kind of demons
or something.
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Because we heard these screams
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very similar
to a female screaming.
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Did you get the chainsaw
to work ever?
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After 4:00 a.m., it started
without any problems.
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[Jessica] I mean,
that is really weird
323
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because some people
do believe that witching hour
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is 3:00 or 4:00.
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-The literal witching hour.
-Yeah.
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The fact that they put
everything on lockdown,
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basically, if they were doing
something out there,
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and then after 4:00, he was
able to go through his work.
329
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-So, like--
-It matches up perfectly.
330
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Exactly.
331
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So, this location
in the forest,
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how far away is it?
333
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It's on the other side
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of the forest to the west.
335
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On this GPS map, could you
point out where it happened?
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[Stefan] Uh-huh.
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So, we are here,
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so you said to the west?
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-It's there.
-[Phil] Okay.
340
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[narrator] The location
of Stefan's sighting
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is too far to reach on foot,
342
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and he's not willing to
return to the spot himself.
343
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But he offered us his ATV
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to see if we can replicate
his encounter
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and investigate the area.
346
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-Okay. Perfect.
-Perfect.
347
00:12:50,367 --> 00:12:51,433
Thank you so much.
348
00:12:51,767 --> 00:12:52,667
Yeah.
349
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[Stefan speaking
foreign language]
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-[Jessica] You got the GPS?
-[Phil] Got it.
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All right, Jess.
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-All right.
-That way.
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Stefan's story too,
I cannot believe that
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that exact time slot
that he had his encounter,
355
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and then kind of was released
from his encounter,
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matches up
with the witching hour
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that you were researching.
358
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I know. That was really weird.
359
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I was not expecting
to hear that at all.
360
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Oh, you know what,
there's a road right there.
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Right into the forest.
362
00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:24,800
-Let's take that.
-All right. Good.
363
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[Jessica]
It's like all over the place.
364
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-Whoa.
-[Phil] Whoa.
365
00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,133
Watch your head. Oh, [bleep].
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[Phil] Oh!
367
00:13:34,567 --> 00:13:36,667
Holy... That was sketchy.
368
00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,967
And I see what they're saying
about the trees,
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so many of them have warps.
370
00:13:41,767 --> 00:13:42,934
[Jessica] Yeah.
371
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-[Phil] Hey, Jess.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
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We are officially
in the forest.
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Whoa. This place is crazy.
374
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[Phil] It's waiting for us.
375
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[tense music playing]
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00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,934
[Jessica] All right.
377
00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,500
[exhales] Do you mind grabbing
the chainsaw?
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00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:09,700
[Phil] Yeah, I got it.
379
00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:11,266
So, yeah.
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I think if we go
over that ridge line,
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00:14:12,667 --> 00:14:14,667
we should be right there.
382
00:14:14,667 --> 00:14:16,200
-[Jessica] So, this way?
-[Phil] Yeah.
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00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,567
[Jessica] Okay.
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[Phil exhales]
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00:14:23,367 --> 00:14:25,433
[Phil] It's a lot more down
trees over here.
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00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:33,066
This might be where Stefan
and the other people come
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00:14:33,066 --> 00:14:34,467
to harvest wood. Look at this.
388
00:14:34,467 --> 00:14:35,900
-That's pretty fresh.
-[Jessica] Yeah, like a log.
389
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[Phil] These are really fresh.
390
00:14:37,066 --> 00:14:38,266
[Jessica] Oh, big time.
391
00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:39,634
There's still sawdust here.
392
00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,867
-See that?
-Oh, yeah.
393
00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:46,066
So, then this was
where he was, huh?
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I think this is it.
395
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,867
[Jessica]
Whew, this place is creepy.
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00:14:50,867 --> 00:14:52,400
[Phil] Yeah.
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[narrator]
After finding the location
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where Stefan reported
the shadow figure,
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we set up for our night's
investigation.
400
00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:01,266
[Phil]
It's getting dark quick.
401
00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:02,400
[Jessica] Ooh, yeah.
402
00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,333
-Get your flashlight out.
-[Phil] Yeah.
403
00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,900
All right, Jess.
So, why do we carry this
chainsaw all the way out here?
404
00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:14,166
[Jessica] So, hear me out.
I kind of wanna use it
as a trigger item.
405
00:15:14,166 --> 00:15:17,266
Stefan said that when he was
trying to cut down the tree,
406
00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:18,567
that it shut down,
407
00:15:18,567 --> 00:15:20,667
and that's when that shadow
figure appeared
408
00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:23,467
as if a guardian of the forest
was watching him.
409
00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:25,900
I wanna try
and take this chainsaw,
410
00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:27,600
act as if I'm gonna cut
a tree,
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and see if we can't bring
any shadow figures
412
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to come check us out.
413
00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,567
So, you're telling me
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you wanna threaten
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00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,100
one of the most haunted
forests
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00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,667
in the entire world?
417
00:15:36,667 --> 00:15:37,700
I want a reaction.
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00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:39,000
I wanna see if anything comes
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00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,400
to check us out
and see what we're doing.
420
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,567
Well, I mean,
I'll tell you what,
421
00:15:41,567 --> 00:15:42,667
if we're looking
for shadow figures,
422
00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:43,867
and I'll take out
the low-light cam,
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00:15:43,867 --> 00:15:45,200
and scan our surroundings,
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I guess the only downside
that I can see
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00:15:46,967 --> 00:15:49,967
is the noise of the chainsaw
is gonna scare away
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probably 90% of the wildlife
around here.
427
00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:53,600
But that works
in our favor then.
428
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,100
-Why?
-Because if a shadow figure
shows up,
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00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:58,166
then we know
it's not an animal.
430
00:15:58,166 --> 00:15:59,867
So, it's filtering
our results.
431
00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:00,967
[Jessica] Exactly.
432
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,100
-Okay.
-So, should we pick a tree?
433
00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:05,967
You're the one who wants
to play tricks on the forest,
434
00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:07,200
so I'll let you choose
that tree.
435
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,000
-All right.
-I'll get the cameras ready.
436
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,033
Okay.
437
00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,467
[Phil] Okay, Jess,
what are you thinking?
438
00:16:17,467 --> 00:16:20,066
[Jessica] Let's find another
one of those twisty trees.
439
00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:28,367
[Phil]
What about this one here?
440
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-[Jessica] That's pretty good.
-[Phil] It's got some bends.
441
00:16:30,166 --> 00:16:31,900
-[Jessica] Yeah.
-[Phil] It's definitely
leaning from the bottom.
442
00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:32,767
[Jessica] Yeah.
443
00:16:32,767 --> 00:16:34,033
Cut away.
444
00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:37,634
[chainsaw whirring]
445
00:16:52,266 --> 00:16:54,834
Oh, it just shut off.
446
00:16:55,867 --> 00:16:56,900
-What?
-I didn't turn it off.
447
00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:58,066
-[Phil] Are you kidding me?
-I didn't...
448
00:16:58,066 --> 00:16:59,467
No, I'm serious.
I didn't do that.
449
00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:00,500
[Phil]
Is there gas in that thing?
450
00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:01,333
Yeah.
451
00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,133
Let's just try it again.
452
00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:11,867
I just think
it's super weird that it did
453
00:17:11,867 --> 00:17:13,734
exactly what happened
to Stefan.
454
00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:15,900
Like, exactly.
455
00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,000
Like, a gun did.
456
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,734
It shouldn't have turned off.
457
00:17:21,166 --> 00:17:22,567
Have you been seeing
anything yet,
458
00:17:22,567 --> 00:17:23,800
looking at us
through the trees?
459
00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,000
-I haven't seen anything.
-Yeah. Let me try.
460
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,567
Let me see.
I'll flip it with you.
461
00:17:26,567 --> 00:17:27,634
[Phil] Okay.
462
00:17:28,567 --> 00:17:29,667
You know what,
463
00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:32,166
I'm gonna get
the FLIR out too.
464
00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:36,567
If there's anything
alive out here,
465
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it should have
a heat signature.
466
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,767
It's 12:30 right now.
467
00:17:40,767 --> 00:17:42,166
[Jessica]
And let's stay out here
468
00:17:42,166 --> 00:17:44,567
till we at least cross
over to the witching hour.
469
00:17:44,567 --> 00:17:45,734
[Phil] Okay.
470
00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:49,200
[Jessica] We haven't gone
down this way yet.
471
00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,500
Let's go down here.
472
00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:51,834
[Phil] Oh, Stefan.
473
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,767
You know what's weird, Jess?
474
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I just turned and thought
you were crouched right here.
475
00:18:14,567 --> 00:18:15,700
I did a double take.
476
00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:18,667
I saw you, jacket,
hair, everything.
477
00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:20,100
-No, you did not.
-100%.
478
00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,567
-And then, I turned
and you weren't in there.
-Like, I was just
479
00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:23,767
-sitting here?
-Yeah, sitting right there.
480
00:18:25,867 --> 00:18:27,634
Let's see if there's any heat
coming from there.
481
00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:30,233
[Jessica] What?
482
00:18:32,667 --> 00:18:33,734
What?
483
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,900
[Phil] What are you saying?
484
00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,900
[Jessica] I just heard
somebody say, "Jess."
485
00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,367
[Phil] No one said, "Jess."
486
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,867
[man speaking]
487
00:18:42,867 --> 00:18:44,100
-[Jessica]
You guys heard that?
-[Phil] You heard it?
488
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,233
[man] Oh, yeah.
489
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,500
[man speaking]
490
00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,166
-[man] Yeah.
-[Phil] You got it on audio?
491
00:18:50,166 --> 00:18:51,667
Yeah.
492
00:18:51,667 --> 00:18:53,467
[Phil] Let's see if there's
any heat coming from there.
493
00:18:53,467 --> 00:18:54,567
[man speaking]
494
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:56,634
[Jessica] What?
495
00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:58,500
[man speaking]
496
00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,467
-[Jessica] Yeah.
-[Phil] I just got goosebumps.
497
00:19:00,467 --> 00:19:02,000
You seriously just
heard your name.
498
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,500
[Jessica] Yeah.
I just heard, "Jess."
499
00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:05,000
-[Phil] From where?
-[Jessica] Like, "Jess?"
500
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,066
[Phil] From over here?
501
00:19:06,066 --> 00:19:07,233
[Jessica] From over here.
502
00:19:09,867 --> 00:19:11,900
[Phil] I'm checking
for anything down there.
503
00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:13,367
[Jessica] Mmm-hmm.
504
00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:14,467
-I'm not kidding.
-[Phil] Zero heat signatures.
505
00:19:14,467 --> 00:19:16,066
[Jessica]
I heard, like, "Jess?"
506
00:19:16,066 --> 00:19:16,867
[Phil] That's great.
507
00:19:16,867 --> 00:19:18,266
I did not hear,
but if you heard it
508
00:19:18,266 --> 00:19:20,567
and they heard it through
the audio, then...
509
00:19:20,567 --> 00:19:22,400
kind of crazy.
510
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,266
So, either we're not alone
in this forest
511
00:19:25,266 --> 00:19:27,900
or we're not alone
in this forest.
512
00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,233
[Jessica] I mean,
I think we're not alone
in this forest.
513
00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:33,100
There's something over there.
514
00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:34,166
[Phil] I just heard
some movement.
515
00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,266
-[Jessica] Did you hear it?
-[Phil] Yeah.
516
00:19:36,066 --> 00:19:37,233
-Some crashing.
-[Jessica] Yup.
517
00:19:38,867 --> 00:19:40,767
[Phil]
Well... So, we head that way.
518
00:19:40,767 --> 00:19:41,867
Okay.
519
00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:44,900
I feel wretched right now.
520
00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:46,166
Like, I feel sick.
521
00:19:46,967 --> 00:19:50,000
[Phil] Could be jet lag
and lack of sleep,
522
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,533
or it could be the woods.
523
00:19:52,767 --> 00:19:56,367
[eerie music playing]
524
00:19:56,367 --> 00:19:58,800
[Phil] Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Jess, I got some stuff.
525
00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,934
Come here.
526
00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,500
What? What am I looking at?
527
00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:05,867
[Phil] I don't know.
Do you see that big banding
right there?
528
00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:09,266
It's like there's a huge
thermal wall.
529
00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:10,734
[Jessica] Oh, weird.
530
00:20:11,867 --> 00:20:13,166
Why is it like that?
531
00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:14,867
It's like there's
a border there.
532
00:20:14,867 --> 00:20:16,333
[Phil] It's like there's
a big wall.
533
00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:19,834
[Jessica] That's...
What the [bleep].
534
00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:24,033
-Never seen that before.
-I've never seen that before.
535
00:20:25,066 --> 00:20:25,967
I'm gonna walk over there.
536
00:20:25,967 --> 00:20:28,266
Tell me if you see me
go through it.
537
00:20:28,266 --> 00:20:29,734
[Phil]
Careful out there, Jess.
538
00:20:36,967 --> 00:20:40,066
[eerie music playing]
539
00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,367
[Phil] Looks like it should be
just ahead of you.
540
00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:46,467
[Jessica] Okay.
541
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,567
[Phil] So weird.
542
00:20:50,567 --> 00:20:51,867
[Jessica] Am I through it?
543
00:20:52,467 --> 00:20:53,200
Keep going.
544
00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:57,166
Looks like you're just
about there.
545
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600
Can you still see me though?
546
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,634
I can see you.
547
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,200
I think you're in it.
548
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,467
[Jessica] I'm in it?
549
00:21:10,467 --> 00:21:12,600
You don't feel any
temperature difference?
550
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,734
No.
551
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,934
What the hell is that border?
552
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,100
[bell ringing]
553
00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,734
-I hear a bell ringing.
-[Phil] What?
554
00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:23,634
There's a... Shh.
555
00:21:31,567 --> 00:21:33,166
Okay. Stand here.
556
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,867
Be super quiet.
557
00:21:35,867 --> 00:21:38,567
It sounds like there's
like a ringing
558
00:21:38,567 --> 00:21:41,033
coming off the left-hand side.
559
00:21:46,967 --> 00:21:48,667
[Jessica] [bleep]. It's gone.
560
00:21:48,667 --> 00:21:50,900
Like, the temperature feels
the same over here.
561
00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:52,266
-Yeah, it does.
-Turn around and see
562
00:21:52,266 --> 00:21:54,033
if it shows up behind us now.
563
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,266
No.
564
00:22:02,166 --> 00:22:03,100
[Jessica] That's weird.
565
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:04,100
It's almost like
566
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:05,600
there was like a barrier.
567
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,734
[Phil] Like,
some gradient right here.
568
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:11,367
And I'm also not feeling good.
569
00:22:11,367 --> 00:22:14,567
-[Phil] Really?
-I have a big, big headache.
570
00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,967
My chest is on fire.
571
00:22:16,967 --> 00:22:19,467
I just don't feel good.
572
00:22:19,467 --> 00:22:23,367
It just started getting really
bad like the last half hour.
573
00:22:23,367 --> 00:22:25,700
I mean, I'm the one
that threatened the tree,
574
00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,233
so maybe it's focusing on me.
575
00:22:28,066 --> 00:22:29,667
I saw you,
you heard your name,
576
00:22:29,667 --> 00:22:30,834
and you're feeling like this?
577
00:22:31,166 --> 00:22:32,066
Yeah.
578
00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:33,166
What time it is?
579
00:22:33,166 --> 00:22:34,400
What time is it?
580
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,700
[Phil] It's 3:25.
581
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,900
[Jessica] Like,
it's the witching hour.
582
00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:40,000
And it was right at this time
that everything
583
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,266
kind of started to go off.
584
00:22:41,266 --> 00:22:43,867
I mean, I feel wretched
right now.
585
00:22:43,867 --> 00:22:45,066
[coughs]
586
00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:46,767
[Phil] Yeah, I think
we should try to make sure
587
00:22:46,767 --> 00:22:49,166
we can make a way
out of this forest tonight.
588
00:22:49,166 --> 00:22:50,533
-[Phil] Okay.
-[Jessica] Yeah.
589
00:22:52,367 --> 00:22:54,767
[tense music playing]
590
00:22:58,166 --> 00:23:00,266
[narrator] The next morning,
we connect with Josh
591
00:23:00,266 --> 00:23:04,066
to bring him up to speed
on our investigation so far.
592
00:23:04,066 --> 00:23:05,467
-[Jessica] Hey, Josh.
-[Phil] Hey, Josh.
593
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:06,266
Hey.
594
00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:07,400
What's going on?
595
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,967
Is Hoia living up to the hype?
596
00:23:08,967 --> 00:23:11,000
Oh, we've actually had
a fair amount
597
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,500
of activity this first night.
598
00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,166
I get it. I see why this place
599
00:23:14,166 --> 00:23:16,066
made such an impact
on you, Josh.
600
00:23:16,066 --> 00:23:18,567
At one point, I thought I saw
601
00:23:18,567 --> 00:23:21,500
Jess next to me sitting down,
facing away.
602
00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,667
I saw her hair,
saw the same jacket,
603
00:23:23,667 --> 00:23:26,100
only Jess was way over
that way
604
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,467
and I saw her over this way.
605
00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:28,667
Wow.
606
00:23:28,667 --> 00:23:30,266
Totally different
spot in the woods.
607
00:23:30,266 --> 00:23:32,567
I was nowhere near Phil.
608
00:23:32,567 --> 00:23:34,266
And then, it even picked up
a notch from there
609
00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:35,900
where I was walking along
610
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,000
and we were kind of headed
into this direction that was,
611
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,100
like, really cluttered
with trees.
612
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,867
And I distinctly heard
somebody say, "Jess."
613
00:23:43,867 --> 00:23:45,667
And not only did I hear it,
614
00:23:45,667 --> 00:23:47,667
but the crew heard it
and we caught it on audio.
615
00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,533
[Phil] Let's see if there's
any heat coming from there.
616
00:23:49,867 --> 00:23:51,066
[man speaking]
617
00:23:51,567 --> 00:23:53,066
[Jessica] What?
618
00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:54,667
That is incredible.
619
00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:56,066
It sounds like
what you're describing
620
00:23:56,066 --> 00:23:58,467
is like the forest
playing tricks on you.
621
00:23:58,467 --> 00:24:01,166
That totally lines up
to my experiences there.
622
00:24:01,166 --> 00:24:02,467
-[Jessica] Absolutely.
-[Phil] Yeah.
623
00:24:02,467 --> 00:24:04,700
And bottom line,
it seems like a lot of people
624
00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:05,867
get lost out in the forest.
625
00:24:05,867 --> 00:24:07,767
We felt like we were kind of
getting drawn
626
00:24:07,767 --> 00:24:08,967
deeper and deeper
into the forest
627
00:24:08,967 --> 00:24:10,667
and got disoriented ourselves.
628
00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:12,867
We also saw this
strange wall of heat
629
00:24:12,867 --> 00:24:15,367
on the FLIR
right in our path.
630
00:24:15,367 --> 00:24:16,900
The other kind of weird thing
631
00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,500
is I checked our GPS route
of the direction
632
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,100
that the forest
was kind of leading us
633
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,000
and it was basically
in a straight line
634
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,100
towards the Rotunda.
635
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:25,166
Mmm-hmm.
636
00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,166
I literally have goosebumps
just listening to this
637
00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:29,100
because it's exactly
how I felt there.
638
00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:31,166
You know, this unseen...
639
00:24:31,166 --> 00:24:32,800
Almost magnetic force
640
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,100
drawing you toward that big
open circle in the forest.
641
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,100
It's like there's something
about that place.
642
00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,467
And it's obviously
what Evan experienced there,
643
00:24:41,467 --> 00:24:44,000
a powerful unseen force.
644
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,467
Look, I think it's obvious
you have to go investigate
645
00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:48,667
where that's leading you,
646
00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:50,900
into that Rotunda,
that circle, right?
647
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:53,100
And I think you should do
an isolation experiment there.
648
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,567
That's what worked for us
all those years ago.
649
00:24:55,567 --> 00:24:58,100
That's where Evan had
that insane experience, right?
650
00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,367
And you will see,
651
00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:02,100
there is just something
about this place.
652
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,400
Now, I've outfitted you guys
with more advanced
653
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,567
monitoring equipment
than we had back then.
654
00:25:06,567 --> 00:25:09,300
So, hopefully, that will help
you get more answers.
655
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:10,967
And I have a few theories
I wanna look into.
656
00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,767
One of which is to use
ground-penetrating radar
657
00:25:13,767 --> 00:25:16,100
to actually see
how deep the bedrock is.
658
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,667
Because if it's
shallow bedrock,
659
00:25:17,667 --> 00:25:20,100
then maybe the trees
just can't grow there.
660
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,266
That's a great call.
661
00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:23,500
I don't think they'd invented
GPR back when I was there,
662
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,467
so definitely check that out.
663
00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:26,767
[Jessica] Yeah.
And while Phil is doing that,
664
00:25:26,767 --> 00:25:28,500
I wanna head back
into town and see
665
00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,567
who I can reach out
to that can tell me more
666
00:25:30,567 --> 00:25:33,667
about, like, the folklore
and the history of the area,
667
00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,266
specifically just
'cause I wanna figure out
668
00:25:35,266 --> 00:25:37,000
kind of
on a supernatural angle,
669
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,166
what are we actually
dealing with here?
670
00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:41,767
Are we dealing with strigoi?
Are we dealing with iele?
671
00:25:41,767 --> 00:25:43,867
Are we dealing
with maybe the forest itself
672
00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:44,867
trying to protect itself?
673
00:25:44,867 --> 00:25:47,367
Like, I just wanna try
and narrow this down
674
00:25:47,367 --> 00:25:50,400
so I know
who to potentially talk to.
675
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,367
[Josh]
That sounds great, Jess.
676
00:25:51,367 --> 00:25:53,166
And hey, listen
on a... On a serious note,
677
00:25:53,166 --> 00:25:56,000
when you guys do get
to that circle in the forest,
678
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,166
be careful, you know? I...
679
00:25:58,166 --> 00:25:59,600
That place is no joke.
680
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,100
I'm wishing you more answers
681
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,767
and less trauma
than we experienced, really.
682
00:26:04,767 --> 00:26:06,367
We'll let you know
how it goes.
683
00:26:06,367 --> 00:26:08,367
Good luck you guys. Stay safe.
684
00:26:08,367 --> 00:26:09,967
-[Phil] See you, Josh.
-[Jessica] Bye, Josh.
685
00:26:09,967 --> 00:26:12,533
[suspenseful music playing]
686
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,667
[Phil] All right.
So, somewhere up here
687
00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:24,000
is the Rotunda.
688
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,767
This is where Josh's cameraman
had his experience
689
00:26:26,767 --> 00:26:28,800
of getting thrown
by something.
690
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,867
And this is where I'm really
curious about what's going on
691
00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:35,400
inside the Earth that makes
this area where the trees grow
692
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,300
so different than the Rotunda
where they do not.
693
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:41,000
And there it is
694
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000
right up ahead.
695
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,033
Wow.
696
00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,667
I mean, look at this ground
right here.
697
00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:48,867
Covered in leaves.
698
00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:50,900
This is the forest
699
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,133
and I take three steps
this way.
700
00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:02,266
And all of a sudden,
there's just grass everywhere.
701
00:27:02,266 --> 00:27:04,166
I've never seen an environment
702
00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:05,800
where it's so drastic
703
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,467
and it's wild.
704
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,266
What is going on
705
00:27:10,266 --> 00:27:11,567
underneath my feet here?
706
00:27:11,567 --> 00:27:12,767
[narrator] To crack the code
707
00:27:12,767 --> 00:27:14,867
on the secrets
of the Rotunda,
708
00:27:14,867 --> 00:27:18,000
I'm meeting two experts
in ground-penetrating radar.
709
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,967
Hi.
710
00:27:18,967 --> 00:27:20,500
[narrator]
George and Silviu together
711
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,400
have over 3,000 hours
of experience
712
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,400
at sites all over Romania.
713
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,400
What I'm really interested in
714
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,600
is what's under
the ground here
715
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,000
and what is so different
about this spot right here
716
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,266
versus that spot
20 meters away.
717
00:27:33,266 --> 00:27:35,934
[Silviu speaking]
718
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,467
[narrator]
This ground-penetrating radar
719
00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:42,567
will scan 16 feet
below the Earth
720
00:27:42,567 --> 00:27:45,767
calculating the density
of the soil layers.
721
00:27:45,767 --> 00:27:48,000
If it measures
any anomalies, voids,
722
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,567
or unusual objects,
723
00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:51,266
we should get
an accurate reading
724
00:27:51,266 --> 00:27:52,967
of their shape and size.
725
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:54,767
[George speaking]
726
00:27:58,767 --> 00:28:00,567
[Phil] All right.
Let's hit the center.
727
00:28:00,567 --> 00:28:01,834
-See what we find.
-[George] Okay.
728
00:28:03,767 --> 00:28:05,800
[Jessica] I reached out
to some of my contacts
729
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,500
in the area
and they connected me
730
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:08,700
with Mihaela Minca,
731
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,667
who is one of Romania's
most highly regarded witches.
732
00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,467
I'm meeting Mihaela and her
coven at a local tea house
733
00:28:14,467 --> 00:28:17,367
where I hope to gain insight
into what paranormal forces
734
00:28:17,367 --> 00:28:20,066
might be at play
in the Hoia-Baciu forest.
735
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,000
Hello, Mihaela.
736
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,700
-Hello.
-[Jessica] Hi.
737
00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,567
Witchcraft is common
in Romanian culture
738
00:28:26,567 --> 00:28:28,367
with many ordinary Romanians
739
00:28:28,367 --> 00:28:30,300
turning to witches
to find love,
740
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,767
acquire money,
or to punish their enemies.
741
00:28:33,767 --> 00:28:38,066
[in Portuguese]
742
00:28:38,066 --> 00:28:41,266
In Hoia-Baciu forest,
it's known from all times
743
00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:42,700
that it's the most bad spirits
744
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,867
and if you want
to hurt someone,
745
00:28:44,867 --> 00:28:47,467
then it's necessary
to invoke the bad spirits.
746
00:28:49,567 --> 00:28:52,700
[George speaking
foreign language]
747
00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,800
[Silviu speaking]
748
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,166
-[Phil] Already?
-[Silviu] Already. Yeah.
749
00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:58,000
-Took two steps.
-[Silviu] Yeah.
750
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,166
[Phil] And what does he think
this anomaly could be?
751
00:29:01,166 --> 00:29:02,300
It could be a cavity,
752
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:04,166
it could be
some different rocks.
753
00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:05,467
So, there could be a cavity...
754
00:29:05,467 --> 00:29:06,767
-[Silviu] Yeah. Yeah.
-underground right here?
755
00:29:06,767 --> 00:29:07,867
That's amazing.
756
00:29:07,867 --> 00:29:09,667
And we've only taken
about four steps
757
00:29:09,667 --> 00:29:11,133
in the entire Rotunda.
758
00:29:12,266 --> 00:29:13,467
[George speaking
foreign language]
759
00:29:13,467 --> 00:29:14,500
Right here?
760
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:15,867
[George speaking
foreign language]
761
00:29:15,867 --> 00:29:17,266
[Silviu] Yeah. He thinks
'cause it's the same
762
00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:19,600
as the area over there,
763
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,200
it could probably be
a small cavity
764
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,166
or maybe a small tunnel
or something else.
765
00:29:23,166 --> 00:29:24,233
[Phil] Wow.
766
00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:26,100
I mean, to be honest,
767
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,867
these are remarkable
results already.
768
00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:29,634
That there could be chambers
underneath here.
769
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:31,834
I think we found something.
770
00:29:33,166 --> 00:29:34,567
Would there be such a thing
771
00:29:34,567 --> 00:29:36,867
as a guardian spirit
of the forest
772
00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:39,500
that would try to protect
the forest
773
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,433
from the people
that are coming in?
774
00:29:43,967 --> 00:29:45,367
[Mihaela]
It's possible this thing
775
00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:46,700
because in this situation
776
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,133
started the forest
to be like cursed.
777
00:29:53,767 --> 00:29:55,900
Many years ago,
there was a beautiful woman
778
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,767
who fell in love
with a local shepherd.
779
00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:04,600
But she was
from a very wealthy family
780
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,000
who forbid her
to be with this man.
781
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000
One night, the shepherd
went searching
782
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,967
for a missing sheep
in the Hoia-Baciu forest.
783
00:30:13,266 --> 00:30:15,166
He was lured deeper
into the woods
784
00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:18,433
by what he thought
was his distressed sheep.
785
00:30:21,166 --> 00:30:23,066
He was never seen again.
786
00:30:23,066 --> 00:30:25,500
The lover was so distraught,
787
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,266
she went to the forest
788
00:30:27,266 --> 00:30:29,433
and hung herself
from a crooked tree.
789
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,567
Any person
that kills themselves
790
00:30:33,567 --> 00:30:35,266
could become strigoi,
791
00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:37,800
spirits that rise
from the grave
792
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600
and terrorize the village.
793
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,867
In order to break their curse,
794
00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:43,467
you must find
the missing bodies
795
00:30:43,467 --> 00:30:45,100
from a long lost cemetery
796
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,467
and destroy them
797
00:30:46,467 --> 00:30:47,834
setting their souls free.
798
00:30:52,367 --> 00:30:53,533
[George] Okay.
799
00:30:56,767 --> 00:30:57,867
[George speaking
foreign language]
800
00:30:57,867 --> 00:30:59,033
[Silviu] Another one here.
801
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,967
-[Phil] Okay. Right here.
-[Silviu] Yeah, right there.
802
00:31:02,967 --> 00:31:04,166
[George speaking
foreign language]
803
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,200
[Phil] Another one right here.
804
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,767
[Silviu] Another one
right here. Okay.
805
00:31:06,767 --> 00:31:09,367
So, what's remarkable is that
ground-penetrating radar
806
00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:11,600
has never been done here
at the Rotunda.
807
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400
And it seems like
we're picking up
808
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,066
a lot of anomalies
every five, ten steps,
809
00:31:16,066 --> 00:31:18,600
and it almost looks like it's
starting to put up a pattern.
810
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,867
[Silviu]
There is another one here.
811
00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,266
-[Phil] Another one here?
-[Silviu] Yeah.
812
00:31:21,266 --> 00:31:23,634
Same depth, 1.5 meters.
813
00:31:24,367 --> 00:31:26,567
[Phil] It is unusual
814
00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:29,800
how they all seem
very evenly spaced apart.
815
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,467
I mean, based on the way
this is laid out
816
00:31:32,467 --> 00:31:34,567
and the depth
and the distance apart,
817
00:31:34,567 --> 00:31:37,800
do you think this could be
a graveyard that we're on?
818
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,767
[tense music playing]
819
00:31:43,367 --> 00:31:46,500
Do you think this could be
a graveyard that we're on?
820
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:48,767
[George speaking
foreign language]
821
00:31:48,767 --> 00:31:50,567
[Silviu speaking]
822
00:31:50,567 --> 00:31:52,567
He thinks he needs like a week
823
00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:54,100
to really get into detail
824
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:56,700
and do everything in detail.
825
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,166
This is not the results
I was expecting,
826
00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:02,000
but I think
they're even more fascinating
827
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,634
than I could have anticipated.
828
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,800
[woman] So, she will open now
the tarot cards for you.
829
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,000
And she will tell you how
you will have to be prepared
830
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,467
in your journey when you will
go to Hoia-Baciu.
831
00:32:17,467 --> 00:32:19,367
-[Jessica] Okay.
-[woman] Your right hand,
832
00:32:19,367 --> 00:32:21,800
-put on the globe, please.
-[Jessica] My right hand?
833
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,734
Yeah.
834
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:25,533
[Mihaela] Jessica...
835
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,367
now with your left hand,
836
00:32:28,367 --> 00:32:31,266
you have to take three cards
from the middle of the deck.
837
00:32:31,266 --> 00:32:32,233
[Jessica] Okay.
838
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,834
[Mihaela] Hmm.
839
00:32:51,967 --> 00:32:54,367
By entering Hoia-Baciu
on the Rotunda,
840
00:32:54,367 --> 00:32:57,066
you will face the most
powerful evil magic.
841
00:32:58,066 --> 00:33:00,634
It is important
for you to be prepared.
842
00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:04,066
You must bring a sickle
or scythe with you
843
00:33:04,867 --> 00:33:06,900
as it provides protection
from dark forces
844
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:08,433
that wish you harm.
845
00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:14,300
Here is a magical talisman
that we prepared for you.
846
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:16,433
We have done rituals
with this amulet.
847
00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:21,600
It will protect you
in your journey
848
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,233
and it will bring you luck.
849
00:33:26,066 --> 00:33:29,166
[suspenseful music playing]
850
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,467
[Phil]
Get ready for this, Jess.
851
00:33:32,467 --> 00:33:33,467
[Jessica] Okay.
852
00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:34,467
[Phil] We found something.
853
00:33:34,467 --> 00:33:35,900
Underneath the Rotunda?
854
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,567
Multiple some things
started popping up.
855
00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:41,467
They look like chambers
or stones underground
856
00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:45,600
and in a pattern that went all
the way around the perimeter.
857
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,166
-Oh, my God.
-[Phil] Yes.
858
00:33:47,166 --> 00:33:48,567
[Jessica] That's huge.
859
00:33:48,567 --> 00:33:50,266
So, then what do you guys
think it is?
860
00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:51,667
What did the GPR
technician say?
861
00:33:51,667 --> 00:33:54,367
The way those stones
were arranged,
862
00:33:54,367 --> 00:33:56,166
it could even be
a cemetery up there.
863
00:33:56,166 --> 00:33:57,100
Oh, my God.
864
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,367
-What if it's a cemetery?
-Can you believe it?
865
00:33:59,367 --> 00:34:01,166
So, when I met
with the witches yesterday...
866
00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:02,367
Yeah.
867
00:34:02,367 --> 00:34:04,567
that actually kind of tracks
with what they were telling me
868
00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:07,100
as far as strigoi
being in the area.
869
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,467
There very well could be
870
00:34:09,467 --> 00:34:12,367
a strigoi burial
871
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,433
out at the Rotunda.
872
00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:17,967
-That's so frigging cool.
-[Phil] Yeah.
873
00:34:17,967 --> 00:34:19,667
So, you think that's why
there's no trees
874
00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:21,100
growing in that area
875
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,867
blocked by whatever it was
876
00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:24,000
that was built there?
877
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,300
Possibly or maybe something's
leaching out of them.
878
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,166
I still am not quite sure
879
00:34:29,166 --> 00:34:31,000
why nothing is growing there.
880
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,767
[Jessica] That's true,
'cause, like,
881
00:34:32,767 --> 00:34:35,300
there's plenty of graveyards
with trees and plants...
882
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,100
-[Phil] Yeah. Yeah.
-growing all the time.
883
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:38,400
So, why wouldn't it grow there
884
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,834
in between the spaces
if it was a graveyard?
885
00:34:41,667 --> 00:34:42,800
-I don't know.
-That's still...
886
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,467
-That's so weird. What?
-It is.
887
00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:46,000
-Why?
-I don't know.
888
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,100
Now, I feel like we're just
getting more mysteries.
889
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,200
What's underneath the Rotunda?
890
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,266
Why is it keeping plants
from growing
891
00:34:52,266 --> 00:34:54,166
or is it even keeping plants
from growing?
892
00:34:54,166 --> 00:34:55,300
[Phil] I know.
We came here for answers
893
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,166
and we so far just have
a lot more questions.
894
00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:01,767
[narrator] We know
that paranormal reports
895
00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:04,166
in Hoia-Baciu
are most common at night.
896
00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,667
So, we head to the Rotunda
897
00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:08,900
to conduct the same
isolation experiment,
898
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:12,367
which forever changed Josh
and his cameraman, Evan,
899
00:35:12,367 --> 00:35:14,000
a decade and a half ago.
900
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,500
Welcome to the Rotunda.
901
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:16,900
[Jessica] Oh, my God.
902
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,567
This is strange.
903
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,467
Like Josh said,
why don't we replicate
904
00:35:22,467 --> 00:35:24,266
what he and his team did
905
00:35:24,266 --> 00:35:26,200
when they were
just sitting here
906
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,767
self-isolating
30 minutes each?
907
00:35:28,767 --> 00:35:31,667
I've got the bag of equipment
he sent us
908
00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:33,033
so we can set everything up.
909
00:35:33,767 --> 00:35:35,100
[narrator]
This time, we're equipped
910
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,967
with more advanced tools
to monitor the clearing.
911
00:35:37,967 --> 00:35:40,567
We know that Evan says
he was sent backwards
912
00:35:40,567 --> 00:35:42,100
by an invisible force
913
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,767
and suffered multiple
scratches on his arm
914
00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:47,467
that left him
physically scarred.
915
00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:50,567
So, we're rigging
an EMF trip wire perimeter
916
00:35:50,567 --> 00:35:52,700
composed of a string of LEDs
917
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,333
connected to individual
EMF sensors.
918
00:35:57,166 --> 00:36:00,166
If there's a disturbance
in the electromagnetic field,
919
00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:03,066
the lights will turn
from purple to red.
920
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,900
We also set up four
infrared surveillance cameras
921
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,967
pointing in
towards the circle.
922
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,900
[Jessica]
It's a pretty good circle.
923
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,367
[narrator] Jess and I will
each take our 30-minute turn
924
00:36:15,367 --> 00:36:17,100
at the center of the Rotunda,
925
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,000
armed with
a night vision camera
926
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,066
and a walkie to communicate.
927
00:36:21,066 --> 00:36:22,567
-Okay.
-What do you think?
928
00:36:22,567 --> 00:36:24,000
What are these bright lights?
929
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,567
Those are actually
the IR lights from the cameras
930
00:36:26,567 --> 00:36:28,300
-pointing at each other.
-Okay.
931
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:29,767
So, ignore that
and just pay attention
932
00:36:29,767 --> 00:36:31,767
-to the person in the middle?
-Yeah.
933
00:36:31,767 --> 00:36:32,967
-Why don't you go up first?
-Okay.
934
00:36:32,967 --> 00:36:34,100
Thirty minutes?
935
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,367
-Thirty minutes.
-[Phil] Okay.
936
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,734
Heading out.
937
00:36:39,266 --> 00:36:41,634
[dramatic music playing]
938
00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:51,233
Crisscross applesauce, Phil.
939
00:36:52,667 --> 00:36:55,100
For a minute there,
I forgot you were watching me.
940
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,266
[Jessica laughs]
941
00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:57,967
Starting timer on my phone.
942
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,333
All right. Going.
943
00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:04,133
Thirty minutes.
944
00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:18,133
Jess, are you moving around
over there?
945
00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:20,900
No, I am not.
946
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,967
I'm hearing some movement
rustling around me.
947
00:37:28,367 --> 00:37:30,700
I just saw a little light
flicker in the forest.
948
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,500
What? Where? Which direction?
949
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,567
You see where I'm pointing?
It's right behind that camera.
950
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:37,166
[Jessica] Yup.
951
00:37:37,166 --> 00:37:38,100
Oh, man.
952
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,166
That IR light's blowing
it out. I can't see.
953
00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:41,333
Kill it.
954
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,533
Something just made
a little grunt.
955
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000
I'm watching. I don't see
anything moving in the forest.
956
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,567
I think the isolation's
starting to get to me.
957
00:38:00,567 --> 00:38:03,367
Every little noise
is making me jump.
958
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,266
I think like being alone
959
00:38:05,266 --> 00:38:07,367
out here in the middle
of the Rotunda
960
00:38:07,367 --> 00:38:09,100
is not my favorite place
to be.
961
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:11,367
I keep hearing little cracks,
962
00:38:11,367 --> 00:38:13,567
little bits of movement
in the forest all around me.
963
00:38:13,567 --> 00:38:16,367
Knowing where we are,
the legends about it
964
00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:19,467
and what could be buried
underneath me right now,
965
00:38:19,467 --> 00:38:20,834
it's kind of terrifying.
966
00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:22,634
How much time you got left?
967
00:38:23,166 --> 00:38:24,567
Less than one minute now.
968
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,266
[Jessica] Is this us?
969
00:38:26,266 --> 00:38:28,967
Who's this right here?
970
00:38:28,967 --> 00:38:30,834
I saw a little light pop up.
971
00:38:32,367 --> 00:38:33,533
Do you see anything?
972
00:38:36,266 --> 00:38:37,233
[Phil] I see nothing.
973
00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:39,100
All right. My time is up.
974
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,000
My time is up.
975
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,233
Let me grab my bag.
I'll come out.
976
00:38:49,066 --> 00:38:51,667
I'm gonna have the recorder
going the whole time
977
00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:53,567
just in case something
decides to talk to me
978
00:38:53,567 --> 00:38:54,867
through the recorder.
979
00:38:54,867 --> 00:38:56,266
So, right now,
Jess is getting set
980
00:38:56,266 --> 00:38:58,367
for her isolation experiment.
981
00:38:58,367 --> 00:39:01,367
Okay. Protection amulet on.
982
00:39:01,367 --> 00:39:02,567
She has a recorder.
983
00:39:02,567 --> 00:39:04,000
She got her scythe.
984
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,767
Scythe is here next to me
in the ground.
985
00:39:07,767 --> 00:39:09,467
She's kind of prepared
across the board
986
00:39:09,467 --> 00:39:11,667
for anything out there.
987
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
And hopefully,
if anything does happen,
988
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,767
we will have it on the camera.
989
00:39:16,767 --> 00:39:18,333
All right.
I'm about to hit the timer.
990
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,667
Good luck out there.
991
00:39:21,266 --> 00:39:23,834
Thirty minutes starts now.
992
00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:31,333
Is there any spirits here,
spirits of the forest?
993
00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:32,867
[Phil] Oh.
994
00:39:33,867 --> 00:39:34,867
Look at the camera.
It's showing up.
995
00:39:34,867 --> 00:39:36,033
[Jessica]
Spiritual people going by?
996
00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:39,467
Any iele?
997
00:39:39,467 --> 00:39:40,834
That is weird.
998
00:39:41,367 --> 00:39:43,000
Any strigoi?
999
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,066
All these cameras are
in IR mode except this one,
1000
00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:48,667
just stopped working.
1001
00:39:52,967 --> 00:39:54,934
Oh, camera just went down.
1002
00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:58,834
Just completely,
completely down.
1003
00:40:00,667 --> 00:40:02,133
Jess, we just lost the camera.
1004
00:40:03,166 --> 00:40:05,100
It's not even that
I can't see in the dark.
1005
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,467
It's just not connected
at all.
1006
00:40:07,467 --> 00:40:08,300
Which one?
1007
00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:11,600
I guess it's the one
with no red lights.
1008
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,533
Can you...
Can you figure that out?
1009
00:40:14,166 --> 00:40:16,000
And we just lost another.
1010
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,367
What the [bleep].
They all are still on.
1011
00:40:19,567 --> 00:40:21,266
Signal's not reaching here
for some reason.
1012
00:40:21,266 --> 00:40:23,734
I'm gonna move the antenna,
see if that helps.
1013
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,266
Are you feeling okay?
1014
00:40:30,266 --> 00:40:31,200
I'm scared [bleep] this,
1015
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,867
but yeah, I don't feel sick
or anything,
1016
00:40:32,867 --> 00:40:34,500
if that's what you mean.
1017
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:36,166
How are the EMF lights
looking?
1018
00:40:36,166 --> 00:40:37,300
Anything changing color?
1019
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,300
No, nothing.
They're all the same.
1020
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:40,367
This is crazy.
1021
00:40:40,367 --> 00:40:43,033
Half of our surveillance
system is down right now.
1022
00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:48,767
I just heard something
walk next to me
1023
00:40:48,767 --> 00:40:50,333
on... In the circle.
1024
00:40:51,166 --> 00:40:52,967
[Phil] Okay.
That, I did not hear.
1025
00:40:52,967 --> 00:40:54,266
How close?
1026
00:40:54,266 --> 00:40:57,467
Like, woo, right next to me.
1027
00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:01,100
Camera's flashing big time.
1028
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,166
[Phil] I'm seeing that,
1029
00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:03,800
a lot of in and out light
right now.
1030
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,266
[Jessica] Oh, my [bleep] God.
1031
00:41:05,266 --> 00:41:07,533
Are you out here
by the camera
right in front of me?
1032
00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,100
[Phil] No. What's happening?
1033
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,600
It just moved,
1034
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,166
the camera
that I'm staring at.
1035
00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:16,500
Oh, my God. It [bleep] moved.
It's moving.
1036
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,634
[Phil] What? What?
1037
00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:19,634
Phil, it's moving.
1038
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:21,967
[Phil]
What do you mean it's...
1039
00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:24,667
Oh, my God.
It's [bleep] moving.
1040
00:41:24,667 --> 00:41:27,200
I'm not seeing any movement
on the screen.
1041
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,233
Can you point again
to the one that is moving?
1042
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,033
[Phil] That is so weird.
1043
00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:39,667
Jess, as far as I can tell,
1044
00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:42,100
it is not moving at all.
1045
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,567
So, what you are seeing
is not showing up on video.
1046
00:41:45,567 --> 00:41:48,000
Three glowing red lights
1047
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,133
that indicate
that the camera is on
1048
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,567
start to float around.
1049
00:41:53,567 --> 00:41:55,667
Jess, since you have
two IR cameras,
1050
00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:56,767
maybe you should take the one
1051
00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:59,800
and aim it towards the camera
that you're seeing moving.
1052
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000
That's an excellent idea.
Hold on.
1053
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,734
Were any of the strigoi
moving the camera?
1054
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:07,634
Oh, my God.
1055
00:42:09,567 --> 00:42:12,233
Is there anything out here
with me right now?
1056
00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:18,233
Are you strigoi?
1057
00:42:22,367 --> 00:42:23,166
Oh.
1058
00:42:25,867 --> 00:42:27,867
Jess, behind you on the right.
1059
00:42:27,867 --> 00:42:28,967
On the right. On the right.
1060
00:42:30,066 --> 00:42:32,166
I'm seeing on camera.
I'm seeing on camera.
1061
00:42:32,166 --> 00:42:33,166
[Jessica] Oh, my God.
1062
00:42:33,166 --> 00:42:34,300
Phil, there's somebody
out here with me.
1063
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:35,834
[screams]
1064
00:42:37,467 --> 00:42:38,867
[suspenseful music playing]
1065
00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:40,400
The forests of Romania
1066
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,266
are filled with stories
of mythical creatures.
1067
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,500
The most infamous
is Muma Padurii.
1068
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,867
Her name, literally meaning
mother of the forest.
1069
00:42:50,867 --> 00:42:54,000
She appears sometimes
as a beautiful young woman
1070
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,166
and sometimes is an old crone
1071
00:42:56,767 --> 00:42:58,634
with tree bark for skin.
1072
00:42:59,767 --> 00:43:02,734
This shapeshifter cares for
the forest and its creatures
1073
00:43:03,867 --> 00:43:06,834
and protects it violently
from any trespassers.
1074
00:43:08,066 --> 00:43:11,233
This is said to be
particularly true for kids.
1075
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,867
If Muma Padurii
catches errant children
1076
00:43:14,867 --> 00:43:16,634
wandering her forest,
1077
00:43:18,166 --> 00:43:21,266
she won't hesitate
to boil them in her soup.
1078
00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:23,266
Muma was the inspiration
1079
00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:25,166
for the tale
of Hansel and Gretel.
1080
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,667
There's no gingerbread house
in the original,
1081
00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:31,266
but its ultimate lesson
is the same.
1082
00:43:31,266 --> 00:43:34,567
Children should never stray
where they don't belong.
1083
00:43:34,567 --> 00:43:36,066
Sleep well, kids.
1084
00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,967
[suspenseful music playing]
1085
00:43:38,967 --> 00:43:39,900
[Phil] Jess.
1086
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,667
[Jessica] Dude. Dude. Dude.
1087
00:43:41,667 --> 00:43:44,767
I saw somebody walking
along the forest line.
1088
00:43:44,767 --> 00:43:46,934
Is there anything
over there right now?
1089
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,166
[Phil] It is complete
dead zone back there.
1090
00:43:51,166 --> 00:43:52,467
I'm not seeing anything
on the FLIR.
1091
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,000
I don't... Oh.
1092
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,100
All of our crew
was over by me.
1093
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,467
No one was over here.
1094
00:43:57,467 --> 00:43:58,767
Nobody was over here.
1095
00:43:58,767 --> 00:44:00,233
So...
1096
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,667
I think we need
to go into the forest
1097
00:44:03,667 --> 00:44:05,467
and figure out what the heck
was over there.
1098
00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:07,767
[Jessica] I mean, let's go
look for footprints, I guess.
1099
00:44:07,767 --> 00:44:08,967
I'm bringing the scythe.
1100
00:44:10,066 --> 00:44:13,266
So, it would be
right over here, this area.
1101
00:44:13,266 --> 00:44:14,066
[Phil] This area.
1102
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,266
This is so weird.
1103
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,467
I'm trying to see if there's
any hotspots at all.
1104
00:44:23,467 --> 00:44:25,400
[Jessica]
Are you getting anything?
1105
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,166
Getting nothing.
1106
00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,800
I distinctly saw
1107
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,667
a dark figure
walk through the trees.
1108
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,767
I almost wouldn't believe you
1109
00:44:36,767 --> 00:44:38,000
and just say
that it was your eyes
1110
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,834
playing tricks on you,
but I saw it on the video,
1111
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,066
whatever that was.
1112
00:44:45,266 --> 00:44:47,266
Jess, behind you
on the right.
1113
00:44:47,266 --> 00:44:48,533
On the right. On the right.
1114
00:44:50,867 --> 00:44:51,834
[Jessica] Okay.
1115
00:44:53,767 --> 00:44:55,867
I think there's something
out here.
1116
00:44:56,567 --> 00:44:57,500
What time is it?
1117
00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:59,700
It is 1:04.
1118
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:03,100
I think we should
just keep our gear out
1119
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,867
and just wait it out,
see what happens.
1120
00:45:04,867 --> 00:45:06,967
Let's get our stuff back up
and running if we can.
1121
00:45:06,967 --> 00:45:09,433
-Let's keep it going.
-Okay.
1122
00:45:11,266 --> 00:45:12,667
[Josh]
My team scoured the woods
1123
00:45:12,667 --> 00:45:15,000
with thermal imaging cameras
until morning.
1124
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,266
But whatever they saw
1125
00:45:16,266 --> 00:45:18,166
lurking at the edge
of the Rotunda
1126
00:45:18,166 --> 00:45:21,100
did not emit any detectable
heat signature,
1127
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:23,367
considering
the uncanny similarity
1128
00:45:23,367 --> 00:45:25,767
to recent eyewitness
testimony.
1129
00:45:25,767 --> 00:45:28,066
And we saw a shadow,
1130
00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:31,200
like a small human figure.
1131
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,767
[Josh] It appears that this
shadow figure phenomenon
1132
00:45:33,767 --> 00:45:37,100
could be deeply connected
to the Hoia-Baciu Forest.
1133
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,367
But that's not all we found.
1134
00:45:39,367 --> 00:45:41,000
[Phil] The camera behind you
1135
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,500
to your left is blinking.
1136
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:44,700
It just keeps blinking
on and off.
1137
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,066
Yeah. I see it too.
1138
00:45:46,066 --> 00:45:47,967
[Josh] It wasn't the first
time we received
1139
00:45:47,967 --> 00:45:51,200
what seemed like visual
feedback from the forest,
1140
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,166
the thermal wall
my team encountered
1141
00:45:53,166 --> 00:45:55,867
on the first night
of the investigation.
1142
00:45:55,867 --> 00:45:57,667
Can you still see me though?
1143
00:45:57,667 --> 00:45:59,400
[Phil] I think you're in it.
1144
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,367
[Josh]
Served as an inexplicable
visual marker
1145
00:46:02,367 --> 00:46:04,767
of the Rotunda's perimeter.
1146
00:46:04,767 --> 00:46:06,867
Some might say it seemed
to be guiding them
1147
00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:09,166
directly toward the Rotunda
1148
00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:11,266
or from another
point of view,
1149
00:46:11,266 --> 00:46:14,166
warding off
those who dare enter it.
1150
00:46:14,166 --> 00:46:16,266
[Jessica] My chest is on fire.
1151
00:46:16,266 --> 00:46:18,266
I just don't feel good.
1152
00:46:18,266 --> 00:46:19,867
It's just started
getting really bad
1153
00:46:19,867 --> 00:46:21,367
like the last half hour.
1154
00:46:21,367 --> 00:46:23,166
[Josh] And as they approached
the Rotunda,
1155
00:46:23,166 --> 00:46:26,500
both Phil and Jess
experienced unexplained
sounds.
1156
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:28,333
See if there's any heat
coming from there.
1157
00:46:29,967 --> 00:46:31,200
[Jessica] What?
1158
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,367
[Josh] Hallucinations.
1159
00:46:32,367 --> 00:46:33,467
You know what's weird, Jess?
1160
00:46:33,467 --> 00:46:35,567
I just turned and thought
you were crouched right here,
1161
00:46:35,567 --> 00:46:36,567
did a double take.
1162
00:46:36,567 --> 00:46:38,667
[Josh] And bizarre
equipment failures.
1163
00:46:38,667 --> 00:46:40,433
[chainsaw buzzing]
1164
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:42,800
It just shut off.
1165
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,567
[Josh] Phil returned
to the circle
1166
00:46:44,567 --> 00:46:46,200
to collect a soil sample,
1167
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,600
hoping it would reveal
some clues.
1168
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,367
The analysis
yielded normal results,
1169
00:46:51,367 --> 00:46:55,100
which only corroborates what
my team found 15 years ago.
1170
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:55,900
[George speaking
foreign language]
1171
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:57,767
-[Silviu] One here.
-Here. Yeah.
1172
00:46:57,767 --> 00:46:59,567
[Josh] But things
got interesting
1173
00:46:59,567 --> 00:47:01,767
when our ground-penetrating
radar specialists
1174
00:47:01,767 --> 00:47:03,800
sent us their final report.
1175
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,600
They unveiled
a mystifying grid pattern
1176
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,800
that appeared to be unseen
voids beneath the earth.
1177
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,467
These mysterious anomalies
1178
00:47:11,467 --> 00:47:13,100
were uniformly spaced
1179
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:15,400
and at an identical depth.
1180
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,367
Although we couldn't
excavate the Earth
1181
00:47:17,367 --> 00:47:19,467
to definitively prove
Phil's theory
1182
00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:21,066
of an ancient graveyard...
1183
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,767
[Jessica] I think there's
something out here.
1184
00:47:24,767 --> 00:47:28,000
[Josh] We came across
a centuries old map
of the region,
1185
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,200
which clearly shows
the existence
1186
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,300
of the exact same circle,
1187
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,166
suggesting
that whatever force
1188
00:47:34,166 --> 00:47:36,367
is stopping the trees
from growing there
1189
00:47:36,367 --> 00:47:38,667
has been doing so for ages.
1190
00:47:38,667 --> 00:47:41,000
[Phil] I just got goosebumps.
1191
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,900
[Josh] My team's journey
through the forest
1192
00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:45,567
and their subterranean
research at the Rotunda
1193
00:47:45,567 --> 00:47:48,567
has only cemented
Hoia-Baciu's legacy
1194
00:47:48,567 --> 00:47:51,567
as an epicenter
for unseen forces
1195
00:47:51,567 --> 00:47:55,400
and one of the strangest
places we've ever set foot.
1196
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,166
[Jessica] Phil. Phil.
Phil, come here.
1197
00:47:57,166 --> 00:47:58,500
Come here now.
1198
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,100
[screams]