1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:01,433 Oh. 2 00:00:03,266 --> 00:00:05,400 Jess, behind you on the right. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,600 On the right. On the right. 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:07,800 I'm seeing on camera. 5 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,767 I'm seeing on camera. 6 00:00:08,767 --> 00:00:10,266 Did you... Oh, my God, it just [bleep] moved. 7 00:00:10,266 --> 00:00:11,567 It's moving. 8 00:00:11,567 --> 00:00:14,266 [Josh] On this episode of Expedition X... 9 00:00:14,266 --> 00:00:15,900 -Woo! -Watch your head. Oh! 10 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:18,667 [Josh] My team ventures to Transylvania's 11 00:00:18,667 --> 00:00:20,166 Hoia-Baciu Forest. 12 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:22,767 [Stefan] And we saw a shadow, 13 00:00:22,767 --> 00:00:25,767 like a small human figure. 14 00:00:25,767 --> 00:00:27,100 [Josh] A place many believe 15 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:29,800 is the most haunted in the world. 16 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,000 [Jessica] Oh, my Gosh, Phil, there's somebody out here with me. 17 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,767 [Josh] As Phil and Jess return 18 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:36,100 to the single most terrifying destination 19 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:37,600 I have ever investigated. 20 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,467 [Phil] I just got goosebumps. 21 00:00:39,467 --> 00:00:40,967 You seriously just heard your name. 22 00:00:40,967 --> 00:00:42,800 [Jessica] Yeah, I just heard somebody say "Jess." 23 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,100 [Josh] They uncover frightening new evidence 24 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,100 that might unlock the answers 25 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:49,667 to this ancient Romanian mystery. 26 00:00:49,667 --> 00:00:51,266 [Jessica] I saw something walking along 27 00:00:51,266 --> 00:00:52,767 in forest line. 28 00:00:52,767 --> 00:00:54,800 Phil! Phil! Phil, come here. 29 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,867 Come here now. 30 00:00:55,867 --> 00:00:57,000 [screams] 31 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,867 [suspenseful music playing] 32 00:01:06,967 --> 00:01:10,000 Okay. So, I wanna start today by showing you a clip. 33 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,100 -Are you ready? -Okay. 34 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:12,066 Take a look. 35 00:01:12,066 --> 00:01:13,367 Nothing's in my left shoulder. 36 00:01:13,367 --> 00:01:15,100 -What are you talking about? -I see a light. 37 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:16,300 I see somebody walking. 38 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:18,567 [Jessica] Oh, who's that handsome young man? 39 00:01:18,567 --> 00:01:20,400 Yes, it is a much younger version of me. 40 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,066 [woman] Basically, yeah, yeah. 41 00:01:22,066 --> 00:01:23,800 And I am out in the woods here 42 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,367 and we are doing an EVP session. 43 00:01:25,367 --> 00:01:26,967 This is part of the paranormal investigation. 44 00:01:26,967 --> 00:01:28,500 [man] There's a light. What did you see? 45 00:01:28,500 --> 00:01:30,900 -[woman speaking] -And I'm doing an isolation session here 46 00:01:30,900 --> 00:01:32,800 and I'm about to trade out with someone who I think 47 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,166 -will be familiar to you. -[Evan] Thirty minutes. 48 00:01:34,166 --> 00:01:35,600 [Josh] It is... 49 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,166 -[Jessica] Oh, yeah, Evan. -[Phil] Hey, Evan. 50 00:01:37,166 --> 00:01:39,967 Evan B. Stone, our longtime director of photography here. 51 00:01:39,967 --> 00:01:42,200 Yeah. Evan, go for Josh [indistinct] 52 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,500 This maybe... This may sound really weird, 53 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:46,967 but I'm hearing some... 54 00:01:53,867 --> 00:01:55,667 Copy that. Just stay with it. 55 00:01:55,667 --> 00:01:58,634 Things are about to get very, very strange. Watch this. 56 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:04,367 -Oh. -Whoa. 57 00:02:04,367 --> 00:02:05,867 So, what happened right then? 58 00:02:05,867 --> 00:02:09,400 He gets blown back by some unseen unknown force. 59 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,867 -So, what-- -Was he okay? 60 00:02:10,867 --> 00:02:13,166 Yes and no. I mean, he got out of there in one piece, 61 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:15,600 but he was legitimately shaken up. 62 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,567 I mean, crying. 63 00:02:16,567 --> 00:02:18,166 -He was a mess. -Really? 64 00:02:18,166 --> 00:02:19,400 -[Josh] Yes. -Wow. 65 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,600 So, then where exactly 66 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,867 were you guys when this happened? 67 00:02:21,867 --> 00:02:23,000 Transylvania. 68 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,667 Ooh, okay. 69 00:02:24,667 --> 00:02:25,667 This is in Romania. 70 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:27,266 This is a place called the Hoia-Baciu Forest. 71 00:02:27,266 --> 00:02:30,467 It is a notorious paranormal hotspot. 72 00:02:30,467 --> 00:02:32,867 It is the next place I want you to investigate. 73 00:02:32,867 --> 00:02:35,934 And it is a place that I will never, ever forget. 74 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,467 [Josh] Nestled in the Carpathian Mountains, 75 00:02:41,467 --> 00:02:44,066 Transylvania is known for its mysterious castles 76 00:02:44,467 --> 00:02:46,000 and dark folklore. 77 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,166 Most notably, of course, the legend of Count Dracula, 78 00:02:50,166 --> 00:02:52,400 believed to be based on the real life 79 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,667 of Vlad the Impaler, 80 00:02:53,667 --> 00:02:56,567 a sadistic 15th century prince. 81 00:02:56,567 --> 00:02:58,166 But Vlad is just the tip 82 00:02:58,166 --> 00:03:01,200 of a very bloody paranormal lineage. 83 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,800 While pop culture vampires are most commonly associated 84 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,567 with Romanian moroi, 85 00:03:06,567 --> 00:03:10,667 local lore also swirls around the undead zombie-like 86 00:03:10,667 --> 00:03:12,467 terrors of the strigoi. 87 00:03:12,467 --> 00:03:16,967 Choose your horror and it has origins in Romania. 88 00:03:16,967 --> 00:03:18,767 Tales of these frightening creatures 89 00:03:18,767 --> 00:03:21,467 have evolved over Transylvania's very long 90 00:03:21,467 --> 00:03:23,767 and sometimes violent history. 91 00:03:23,767 --> 00:03:26,467 Fought over by the Romans, Mongols, 92 00:03:26,467 --> 00:03:28,066 Ottomans, Germans, 93 00:03:28,066 --> 00:03:30,100 and Hungarians, it is said the land 94 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:33,934 of Transylvania is soaked in the blood of conflict. 95 00:03:35,367 --> 00:03:37,900 Many believe all this hostility has led 96 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:40,367 to strange and dark phenomena. 97 00:03:40,367 --> 00:03:43,667 Legends of witches, monsters, and spirits 98 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:47,333 all said to stalk Transylvania's sprawling wilderness. 99 00:03:48,166 --> 00:03:49,767 And the Hoia-Baciu Forest 100 00:03:49,767 --> 00:03:52,767 is said to be the most horrific of them all. 101 00:03:52,767 --> 00:03:54,867 The forest's gnarled trees 102 00:03:54,867 --> 00:03:56,900 twist into other worldly shapes 103 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:59,467 unlike anywhere else in the country. 104 00:03:59,467 --> 00:04:04,066 Legend has it, that's because the entire forest is cursed. 105 00:04:04,066 --> 00:04:06,066 For generations, there had been reports 106 00:04:06,066 --> 00:04:10,266 of disturbing sounds and even sightings of shadow people. 107 00:04:10,266 --> 00:04:13,100 Many believe the secret to solving these mysteries 108 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:16,867 resides in an area of the forest called the Rotunda, 109 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:19,867 where trees are reportedly unable to grow. 110 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,266 It's here at the Rotunda 111 00:04:22,266 --> 00:04:24,000 where our disturbing experiences 112 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,100 happened 15 years ago. 113 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:29,066 The horrors of Hoia have been stuck in my mind, 114 00:04:29,066 --> 00:04:31,533 leaving me obsessed with a single question. 115 00:04:32,367 --> 00:04:35,233 Is this forest truly haunted? 116 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:42,700 That place seems intense. 117 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:44,300 Yes, it is intense. 118 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:46,000 And to show you just how intense, 119 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,767 I've invited the man who was there lurking 120 00:04:47,767 --> 00:04:49,200 in the back, Evan B. Stone. 121 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,567 -Hey. -What's up, buddy? 122 00:04:50,567 --> 00:04:51,600 -Good to see you, man. -Good to see you, man. 123 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,867 -Good to see you. -Yes. 124 00:04:52,867 --> 00:04:54,500 -Thanks for coming in. I appreciate it. -Oh, no worries. 125 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:56,367 Evan, safe to say you remember your trip 126 00:04:56,367 --> 00:04:57,700 to the Hoia-Baciu Forest? 127 00:04:57,700 --> 00:04:58,834 Oh, yeah. 128 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:01,200 It changed my life really. 129 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,166 Fourteen years ago, it feels like just yesterday. 130 00:05:04,166 --> 00:05:06,066 This is really the event that made me 131 00:05:06,066 --> 00:05:08,166 believe in paranormal activity. 132 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:09,767 This wasn't just a feeling. It was physical. 133 00:05:09,767 --> 00:05:11,100 What do you mean by physical? 134 00:05:11,100 --> 00:05:12,767 Like, can you walk us through it, what happened? 135 00:05:12,767 --> 00:05:14,767 I was in an isolation session 136 00:05:14,767 --> 00:05:17,800 where you just stay silent 137 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,800 -and try to experience it. Okay? -Got it. 138 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,467 And at the time, I was skeptic. 139 00:05:22,467 --> 00:05:24,300 25 minutes into the half hour, I felt this wind. 140 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:27,367 It's almost like a tunnel of wind 141 00:05:27,367 --> 00:05:29,467 coming to shoot at me. 142 00:05:29,467 --> 00:05:30,867 And the last thing I knew, 143 00:05:30,867 --> 00:05:33,900 I was being dragged and my feet were just straight, 144 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:35,200 and then I just went black. 145 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,300 -[Phil] Whoa. -Yeah. 146 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:37,667 And then, I woke up. 147 00:05:37,667 --> 00:05:38,800 That's pretty hardcore. 148 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,266 That wasn't even the strangest part. 149 00:05:40,266 --> 00:05:42,000 I felt this itching on my arm. 150 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,600 I pulled back my sleeve 151 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,166 and it was these deep scratch marks in my arm. 152 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:50,367 Like, deep, like, actual wounds on his arms. 153 00:05:50,367 --> 00:05:51,467 -You were bleeding? -[Josh] Yes. 154 00:05:51,467 --> 00:05:53,066 Yeah. And I still have 155 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:54,567 the scars today to prove it. 156 00:05:54,567 --> 00:05:55,900 -[Phil] Oh, my God. -And if you guys 157 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:58,200 are thinking of going there, I'd be prepared. 158 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,166 People always ask me what's the most compelling 159 00:06:00,166 --> 00:06:02,367 paranormal evidence I've ever seen? 160 00:06:02,367 --> 00:06:03,467 -This is it. -Yeah. 161 00:06:03,467 --> 00:06:04,767 You know, I mean, this is a guy 162 00:06:04,767 --> 00:06:07,300 who was not out there looking for ghosts. 163 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:08,867 Evan is rational. 164 00:06:08,867 --> 00:06:10,200 He's out there to do a job. 165 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,467 And when we came running over and found you 166 00:06:13,467 --> 00:06:16,300 laying on the ground, you were in a terrible state. 167 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:17,400 We stopped filming. 168 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,767 We brought the cameras up initially, 169 00:06:18,767 --> 00:06:20,367 and then pretty quickly just turned them off 170 00:06:20,367 --> 00:06:21,867 because it was... 171 00:06:21,867 --> 00:06:23,667 It was too much. It was like too real. 172 00:06:23,667 --> 00:06:25,400 And this is the place you wanna send us? 173 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,266 That's right. 174 00:06:26,266 --> 00:06:27,500 A Transylvanian local, 175 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:29,867 a guy named Alex Surducan reached out to us. 176 00:06:29,867 --> 00:06:31,500 He heard about Evan's experience 177 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:33,066 and our investigations there. 178 00:06:33,066 --> 00:06:35,367 He says that there is a slew 179 00:06:35,367 --> 00:06:39,300 of new paranormal encounters, new evidence, new witnesses. 180 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:40,367 So, whatever happened to Evan, 181 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:41,567 it sounds like it's still happening there. 182 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:43,367 Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's the point, right? 183 00:06:43,367 --> 00:06:44,967 Like, Evan's experience, 184 00:06:44,967 --> 00:06:47,066 the fact that you had strange vibes there, 185 00:06:47,066 --> 00:06:49,100 and the history, the lore that's in that area, 186 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:50,667 I mean, it's all very compelling. 187 00:06:50,667 --> 00:06:52,300 This is, I have to say, 188 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:54,200 even for someone who's skeptically minded, 189 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,200 this is a place that defies an easy explanation. 190 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,066 -Mmm-hmm. -So, head over to Romania, 191 00:06:59,066 --> 00:07:00,567 link up with Alex 192 00:07:00,567 --> 00:07:02,200 and see if you can find some answers. 193 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,634 -Will do. -Okay. We're on it. 194 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,867 [Josh] It's an 11-hour flight from New York City 195 00:07:06,867 --> 00:07:08,200 to Cluj-Napoca, 196 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,934 the unofficial capital of Transylvania. 197 00:07:12,667 --> 00:07:15,166 Today, it's a thriving and diverse city, 198 00:07:15,166 --> 00:07:16,467 but over the centuries, 199 00:07:16,467 --> 00:07:18,700 it's seen more than its share of war, 200 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:20,934 bloodshed, and violent persecution. 201 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:23,367 -All right, Jess. -Yeah. 202 00:07:23,367 --> 00:07:25,567 How stoked are you to be here right now? 203 00:07:25,567 --> 00:07:27,600 I'm super stoked. 204 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,000 Seven-year-old goth Jess, 205 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,367 this is definitely dream come true level bucket list 206 00:07:31,367 --> 00:07:33,000 of places to visit. 207 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,367 I mean, it's Transylvania, Count Dracula. 208 00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:36,667 I mean, right where we're walking 209 00:07:36,667 --> 00:07:38,867 is where they would hold witch trials. 210 00:07:38,867 --> 00:07:39,900 Right here, right here? 211 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:41,200 [Jessica] Right here, right here. 212 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,300 And then, even underneath that, 213 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:43,667 there's a bunch of ancient ruins 214 00:07:43,667 --> 00:07:44,567 that they've uncovered. 215 00:07:44,567 --> 00:07:45,667 -So, I mean, this place... -Wow. 216 00:07:45,667 --> 00:07:47,100 is just littered with history. 217 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,100 [Josh] Just beyond the limits of this historic 218 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:51,700 yet cosmopolitan city 219 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:54,934 sits the darkness of the Hoia-Baciu Forest. 220 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:58,066 Judging by the bumpiness of the road, 221 00:07:58,066 --> 00:07:59,600 I think we're getting closer to the forest. 222 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,667 I think you're right. 223 00:08:00,667 --> 00:08:02,100 That's what I think is really interesting 224 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:04,600 is that you go from relatively modern city 225 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,367 to immediate country. 226 00:08:07,367 --> 00:08:09,900 Like, you're having an espresso in a cafe one second, 227 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:11,300 and then you cross over 228 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:13,000 and you are hiking through the woods. 229 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,266 You know what I also found really interesting is that 230 00:08:15,266 --> 00:08:17,667 we've investigated some massive, 231 00:08:17,667 --> 00:08:19,667 -massive wilderness areas. -[Jessica] Mmm-hmm. 232 00:08:19,667 --> 00:08:21,767 Everything from the Big Thicket 233 00:08:21,767 --> 00:08:23,166 to the Pine Barrens to Peru. 234 00:08:23,166 --> 00:08:25,567 -Yeah. -Hoia-Baciu is only 60 acres. 235 00:08:25,567 --> 00:08:27,600 So, it makes it one of the smaller 236 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,567 forests that we've ever taken on. 237 00:08:30,567 --> 00:08:34,767 If we think of hauntings in lore per area, 238 00:08:34,767 --> 00:08:37,900 this is probably the most concentrated 239 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:39,700 haunted forest in the world. 240 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:40,867 [Jessica] What's here? 241 00:08:40,867 --> 00:08:42,500 -Why here? -I don't know, 242 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:44,600 but I think we're about to get some answers. 243 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,767 I think this is our guy, Alex, right here. 244 00:08:49,166 --> 00:08:51,100 [Jessica] Josh's expert, Alex, asked to meet us 245 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:54,066 at a remote trail on the outskirts of Hoia-Baciu. 246 00:08:54,767 --> 00:08:56,367 A trained physicist, 247 00:08:56,367 --> 00:08:59,100 Alex has spent the last 15 years of his life 248 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:00,800 trying to understand the forest. 249 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,667 Welcome Romania. Welcome to Hoia-Baciu Forest. 250 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:03,867 [Jessica] That is cool. 251 00:09:03,867 --> 00:09:06,300 [Alexandru] The most famous forest in Transylvania. 252 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:09,100 [Phil] What got you interested in this forest in the first place? 253 00:09:09,100 --> 00:09:10,367 [Alexandru] The stories, of course. 254 00:09:10,367 --> 00:09:12,100 I was in a university, 255 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:14,367 then I was just curious what's going on here? 256 00:09:14,367 --> 00:09:16,066 Why so many stories? So, I just came here 257 00:09:16,066 --> 00:09:17,800 and in the end, I learned a lot. 258 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,400 I found some weird growing trees. 259 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,467 I found lots of unexplained stuff. 260 00:09:21,467 --> 00:09:23,166 You name it. Paranormal in general. 261 00:09:23,166 --> 00:09:25,266 You name it, it's there. 262 00:09:25,266 --> 00:09:29,567 Why is it getting so many sightings and experiences? 263 00:09:29,567 --> 00:09:31,600 I don't really know exactly why this one, 264 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,400 but it starts with a circle in the forest 265 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,400 where the trees refuse to grow. 266 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,200 [Phil] So, that's the Rotunda we've heard about. 267 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,867 [Alexandru] Yes, the point of Rotunda. 268 00:09:39,867 --> 00:09:41,100 And it still remains a mystery 269 00:09:41,100 --> 00:09:43,100 as far as why the trees don't grow there. 270 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:45,000 It is a big mystery. 271 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,367 But it is better to ask 272 00:09:46,367 --> 00:09:48,467 the people that actually live near the forest. 273 00:09:48,467 --> 00:09:51,200 We have shepherds even today that are all around the forest 274 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,467 and they do have recent experience 275 00:09:53,467 --> 00:09:54,700 because they spend all their life. 276 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:57,166 So, there is one right after this hill. 277 00:09:57,166 --> 00:09:58,800 Can you take us over to meet him? 278 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,166 -[Alexandru] Yeah, sure. -Okay. Great. 279 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:01,467 -Yeah, we'll follow you. -[Phil] Great. 280 00:10:01,467 --> 00:10:03,600 -[Jessica] Let's check out what he has to say. -[Phil] Yeah. 281 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,600 [narrator] Alex takes us to meet Stefan, 282 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,767 a local farmer who had a recent encounter 283 00:10:07,767 --> 00:10:09,800 that left him paralyzed by fear 284 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,266 of what could be hiding in the nearby woods. 285 00:10:13,266 --> 00:10:15,367 [Alexandru speaking foreign language] 286 00:10:15,367 --> 00:10:17,100 -[Stefan speaking foreign language] -Stefan. Stefan. 287 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:18,667 -Jessica. Nice to meet you. -Phil. 288 00:10:18,667 --> 00:10:21,066 So, can you tell us about your experience 289 00:10:21,066 --> 00:10:22,634 out in the forest over there? 290 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:26,500 So, one night, we went into the forest 291 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:27,533 to get some wood. 292 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:31,400 [indistinct chatter] 293 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,033 [Stefan] For some reason, the chainsaw was not working 294 00:10:38,266 --> 00:10:40,433 and we heard something 295 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,767 and we thought it was somebody 296 00:10:44,767 --> 00:10:45,934 playing tricks on us. 297 00:10:46,767 --> 00:10:49,533 And then, I saw some movement 298 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,867 and we saw a shadow, 299 00:10:52,867 --> 00:10:56,200 like a small human figure. 300 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,200 And the shadowy figure was jumping 301 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,500 from one tree to another, 302 00:11:01,500 --> 00:11:05,066 like hiding and spying. 303 00:11:05,066 --> 00:11:09,100 And we couldn't move from that position until 4:00 a.m. 304 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:11,333 We were blocked there. 305 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:14,400 I felt like that thing was stopping us, 306 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,066 like an invisible force. 307 00:11:18,367 --> 00:11:22,367 Oh, well, that behavior of something circling them 308 00:11:22,367 --> 00:11:24,967 and hiding and basically stalking them 309 00:11:24,967 --> 00:11:28,400 does kind of sound like a predatory wolf behavior. 310 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,166 Could it have been a wolf at that time? 311 00:11:31,166 --> 00:11:33,567 No, it definitely was not a wolf. 312 00:11:33,567 --> 00:11:35,600 There were no wolf prints on the ground. 313 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,367 [Jessica] If that's the case with what you experienced, 314 00:11:38,367 --> 00:11:40,634 what is you think you ran into? 315 00:11:43,867 --> 00:11:46,967 I think there are witches that go there by night 316 00:11:46,967 --> 00:11:49,000 to make rituals that might unleash 317 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,667 some kind of demons or something. 318 00:11:51,667 --> 00:11:54,000 Because we heard these screams 319 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,300 very similar to a female screaming. 320 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:00,667 Did you get the chainsaw to work ever? 321 00:12:00,667 --> 00:12:04,066 After 4:00 a.m., it started without any problems. 322 00:12:04,867 --> 00:12:06,266 [Jessica] I mean, that is really weird 323 00:12:06,266 --> 00:12:08,900 because some people do believe that witching hour 324 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:10,166 is 3:00 or 4:00. 325 00:12:10,166 --> 00:12:12,467 -The literal witching hour. -Yeah. 326 00:12:12,467 --> 00:12:14,567 The fact that they put everything on lockdown, 327 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:16,800 basically, if they were doing something out there, 328 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,100 and then after 4:00, he was able to go through his work. 329 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:21,266 -So, like-- -It matches up perfectly. 330 00:12:21,266 --> 00:12:22,166 Exactly. 331 00:12:22,166 --> 00:12:23,367 So, this location in the forest, 332 00:12:23,367 --> 00:12:24,467 how far away is it? 333 00:12:24,467 --> 00:12:25,867 It's on the other side 334 00:12:25,867 --> 00:12:27,567 of the forest to the west. 335 00:12:27,567 --> 00:12:30,467 On this GPS map, could you point out where it happened? 336 00:12:30,467 --> 00:12:31,467 [Stefan] Uh-huh. 337 00:12:31,467 --> 00:12:32,767 So, we are here, 338 00:12:32,767 --> 00:12:34,233 so you said to the west? 339 00:12:35,066 --> 00:12:36,867 -It's there. -[Phil] Okay. 340 00:12:36,867 --> 00:12:38,400 [narrator] The location of Stefan's sighting 341 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,266 is too far to reach on foot, 342 00:12:40,266 --> 00:12:42,967 and he's not willing to return to the spot himself. 343 00:12:42,967 --> 00:12:45,767 But he offered us his ATV 344 00:12:45,767 --> 00:12:47,867 to see if we can replicate his encounter 345 00:12:47,867 --> 00:12:49,367 and investigate the area. 346 00:12:49,367 --> 00:12:50,367 -Okay. Perfect. -Perfect. 347 00:12:50,367 --> 00:12:51,433 Thank you so much. 348 00:12:51,767 --> 00:12:52,667 Yeah. 349 00:12:52,667 --> 00:12:54,867 [Stefan speaking foreign language] 350 00:12:54,867 --> 00:12:56,367 -[Jessica] You got the GPS? -[Phil] Got it. 351 00:12:58,100 --> 00:12:59,100 All right, Jess. 352 00:12:59,100 --> 00:13:00,567 -All right. -That way. 353 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:06,467 Stefan's story too, I cannot believe that 354 00:13:06,467 --> 00:13:10,567 that exact time slot that he had his encounter, 355 00:13:10,567 --> 00:13:13,200 and then kind of was released from his encounter, 356 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,700 matches up with the witching hour 357 00:13:14,700 --> 00:13:16,200 that you were researching. 358 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,600 I know. That was really weird. 359 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,000 I was not expecting to hear that at all. 360 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,667 Oh, you know what, there's a road right there. 361 00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:22,700 Right into the forest. 362 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:24,800 -Let's take that. -All right. Good. 363 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,734 [Jessica] It's like all over the place. 364 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,734 -Whoa. -[Phil] Whoa. 365 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,133 Watch your head. Oh, [bleep]. 366 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:34,567 [Phil] Oh! 367 00:13:34,567 --> 00:13:36,667 Holy... That was sketchy. 368 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:39,967 And I see what they're saying about the trees, 369 00:13:39,967 --> 00:13:41,767 so many of them have warps. 370 00:13:41,767 --> 00:13:42,934 [Jessica] Yeah. 371 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:45,667 -[Phil] Hey, Jess. -[Jessica] Yeah. 372 00:13:45,667 --> 00:13:48,333 We are officially in the forest. 373 00:13:49,066 --> 00:13:51,367 Whoa. This place is crazy. 374 00:13:51,367 --> 00:13:52,767 [Phil] It's waiting for us. 375 00:13:52,767 --> 00:13:55,934 [tense music playing] 376 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,934 [Jessica] All right. 377 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,500 [exhales] Do you mind grabbing the chainsaw? 378 00:14:08,500 --> 00:14:09,700 [Phil] Yeah, I got it. 379 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:11,266 So, yeah. 380 00:14:11,266 --> 00:14:12,667 I think if we go over that ridge line, 381 00:14:12,667 --> 00:14:14,667 we should be right there. 382 00:14:14,667 --> 00:14:16,200 -[Jessica] So, this way? -[Phil] Yeah. 383 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,567 [Jessica] Okay. 384 00:14:17,567 --> 00:14:18,734 [Phil exhales] 385 00:14:23,367 --> 00:14:25,433 [Phil] It's a lot more down trees over here. 386 00:14:30,900 --> 00:14:33,066 This might be where Stefan and the other people come 387 00:14:33,066 --> 00:14:34,467 to harvest wood. Look at this. 388 00:14:34,467 --> 00:14:35,900 -That's pretty fresh. -[Jessica] Yeah, like a log. 389 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:37,066 [Phil] These are really fresh. 390 00:14:37,066 --> 00:14:38,266 [Jessica] Oh, big time. 391 00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:39,634 There's still sawdust here. 392 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:43,867 -See that? -Oh, yeah. 393 00:14:43,867 --> 00:14:46,066 So, then this was where he was, huh? 394 00:14:46,667 --> 00:14:48,133 I think this is it. 395 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,867 [Jessica] Whew, this place is creepy. 396 00:14:50,867 --> 00:14:52,400 [Phil] Yeah. 397 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,967 [narrator] After finding the location 398 00:14:53,967 --> 00:14:56,066 where Stefan reported the shadow figure, 399 00:14:56,066 --> 00:14:58,567 we set up for our night's investigation. 400 00:15:00,166 --> 00:15:01,266 [Phil] It's getting dark quick. 401 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:02,400 [Jessica] Ooh, yeah. 402 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,333 -Get your flashlight out. -[Phil] Yeah. 403 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,900 All right, Jess. So, why do we carry this chainsaw all the way out here? 404 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:14,166 [Jessica] So, hear me out. I kind of wanna use it as a trigger item. 405 00:15:14,166 --> 00:15:17,266 Stefan said that when he was trying to cut down the tree, 406 00:15:17,266 --> 00:15:18,567 that it shut down, 407 00:15:18,567 --> 00:15:20,667 and that's when that shadow figure appeared 408 00:15:20,667 --> 00:15:23,467 as if a guardian of the forest was watching him. 409 00:15:23,467 --> 00:15:25,900 I wanna try and take this chainsaw, 410 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:27,600 act as if I'm gonna cut a tree, 411 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,266 and see if we can't bring any shadow figures 412 00:15:29,266 --> 00:15:30,200 to come check us out. 413 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,567 So, you're telling me 414 00:15:31,567 --> 00:15:32,667 you wanna threaten 415 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,100 one of the most haunted forests 416 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,667 in the entire world? 417 00:15:36,667 --> 00:15:37,700 I want a reaction. 418 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:39,000 I wanna see if anything comes 419 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,400 to check us out and see what we're doing. 420 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,567 Well, I mean, I'll tell you what, 421 00:15:41,567 --> 00:15:42,667 if we're looking for shadow figures, 422 00:15:42,667 --> 00:15:43,867 and I'll take out the low-light cam, 423 00:15:43,867 --> 00:15:45,200 and scan our surroundings, 424 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,967 I guess the only downside that I can see 425 00:15:46,967 --> 00:15:49,967 is the noise of the chainsaw is gonna scare away 426 00:15:49,967 --> 00:15:52,100 probably 90% of the wildlife around here. 427 00:15:52,100 --> 00:15:53,600 But that works in our favor then. 428 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,100 -Why? -Because if a shadow figure shows up, 429 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:58,166 then we know it's not an animal. 430 00:15:58,166 --> 00:15:59,867 So, it's filtering our results. 431 00:15:59,867 --> 00:16:00,967 [Jessica] Exactly. 432 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,100 -Okay. -So, should we pick a tree? 433 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:05,967 You're the one who wants to play tricks on the forest, 434 00:16:05,967 --> 00:16:07,200 so I'll let you choose that tree. 435 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,000 -All right. -I'll get the cameras ready. 436 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,033 Okay. 437 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,467 [Phil] Okay, Jess, what are you thinking? 438 00:16:17,467 --> 00:16:20,066 [Jessica] Let's find another one of those twisty trees. 439 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:28,367 [Phil] What about this one here? 440 00:16:28,367 --> 00:16:30,166 -[Jessica] That's pretty good. -[Phil] It's got some bends. 441 00:16:30,166 --> 00:16:31,900 -[Jessica] Yeah. -[Phil] It's definitely leaning from the bottom. 442 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:32,767 [Jessica] Yeah. 443 00:16:32,767 --> 00:16:34,033 Cut away. 444 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:37,634 [chainsaw whirring] 445 00:16:52,266 --> 00:16:54,834 Oh, it just shut off. 446 00:16:55,867 --> 00:16:56,900 -What? -I didn't turn it off. 447 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:58,066 -[Phil] Are you kidding me? -I didn't... 448 00:16:58,066 --> 00:16:59,467 No, I'm serious. I didn't do that. 449 00:16:59,467 --> 00:17:00,500 [Phil] Is there gas in that thing? 450 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:01,333 Yeah. 451 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,133 Let's just try it again. 452 00:17:10,266 --> 00:17:11,867 I just think it's super weird that it did 453 00:17:11,867 --> 00:17:13,734 exactly what happened to Stefan. 454 00:17:14,166 --> 00:17:15,900 Like, exactly. 455 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,000 Like, a gun did. 456 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,734 It shouldn't have turned off. 457 00:17:21,166 --> 00:17:22,567 Have you been seeing anything yet, 458 00:17:22,567 --> 00:17:23,800 looking at us through the trees? 459 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,000 -I haven't seen anything. -Yeah. Let me try. 460 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,567 Let me see. I'll flip it with you. 461 00:17:26,567 --> 00:17:27,634 [Phil] Okay. 462 00:17:28,567 --> 00:17:29,667 You know what, 463 00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:32,166 I'm gonna get the FLIR out too. 464 00:17:34,266 --> 00:17:36,567 If there's anything alive out here, 465 00:17:37,166 --> 00:17:39,000 it should have a heat signature. 466 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,767 It's 12:30 right now. 467 00:17:40,767 --> 00:17:42,166 [Jessica] And let's stay out here 468 00:17:42,166 --> 00:17:44,567 till we at least cross over to the witching hour. 469 00:17:44,567 --> 00:17:45,734 [Phil] Okay. 470 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:49,200 [Jessica] We haven't gone down this way yet. 471 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,500 Let's go down here. 472 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:51,834 [Phil] Oh, Stefan. 473 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,767 You know what's weird, Jess? 474 00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:14,567 I just turned and thought you were crouched right here. 475 00:18:14,567 --> 00:18:15,700 I did a double take. 476 00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:18,667 I saw you, jacket, hair, everything. 477 00:18:18,667 --> 00:18:20,100 -No, you did not. -100%. 478 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:21,567 -And then, I turned and you weren't in there. -Like, I was just 479 00:18:21,567 --> 00:18:23,767 -sitting here? -Yeah, sitting right there. 480 00:18:25,867 --> 00:18:27,634 Let's see if there's any heat coming from there. 481 00:18:29,300 --> 00:18:30,233 [Jessica] What? 482 00:18:32,667 --> 00:18:33,734 What? 483 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,900 [Phil] What are you saying? 484 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:37,900 [Jessica] I just heard somebody say, "Jess." 485 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:39,367 [Phil] No one said, "Jess." 486 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,867 [man speaking] 487 00:18:42,867 --> 00:18:44,100 -[Jessica] You guys heard that? -[Phil] You heard it? 488 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,233 [man] Oh, yeah. 489 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,500 [man speaking] 490 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,166 -[man] Yeah. -[Phil] You got it on audio? 491 00:18:50,166 --> 00:18:51,667 Yeah. 492 00:18:51,667 --> 00:18:53,467 [Phil] Let's see if there's any heat coming from there. 493 00:18:53,467 --> 00:18:54,567 [man speaking] 494 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:56,634 [Jessica] What? 495 00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:58,500 [man speaking] 496 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,467 -[Jessica] Yeah. -[Phil] I just got goosebumps. 497 00:19:00,467 --> 00:19:02,000 You seriously just heard your name. 498 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,500 [Jessica] Yeah. I just heard, "Jess." 499 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:05,000 -[Phil] From where? -[Jessica] Like, "Jess?" 500 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,066 [Phil] From over here? 501 00:19:06,066 --> 00:19:07,233 [Jessica] From over here. 502 00:19:09,867 --> 00:19:11,900 [Phil] I'm checking for anything down there. 503 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:13,367 [Jessica] Mmm-hmm. 504 00:19:13,367 --> 00:19:14,467 -I'm not kidding. -[Phil] Zero heat signatures. 505 00:19:14,467 --> 00:19:16,066 [Jessica] I heard, like, "Jess?" 506 00:19:16,066 --> 00:19:16,867 [Phil] That's great. 507 00:19:16,867 --> 00:19:18,266 I did not hear, but if you heard it 508 00:19:18,266 --> 00:19:20,567 and they heard it through the audio, then... 509 00:19:20,567 --> 00:19:22,400 kind of crazy. 510 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,266 So, either we're not alone in this forest 511 00:19:25,266 --> 00:19:27,900 or we're not alone in this forest. 512 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,233 [Jessica] I mean, I think we're not alone in this forest. 513 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:33,100 There's something over there. 514 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:34,166 [Phil] I just heard some movement. 515 00:19:34,166 --> 00:19:35,266 -[Jessica] Did you hear it? -[Phil] Yeah. 516 00:19:36,066 --> 00:19:37,233 -Some crashing. -[Jessica] Yup. 517 00:19:38,867 --> 00:19:40,767 [Phil] Well... So, we head that way. 518 00:19:40,767 --> 00:19:41,867 Okay. 519 00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:44,900 I feel wretched right now. 520 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:46,166 Like, I feel sick. 521 00:19:46,967 --> 00:19:50,000 [Phil] Could be jet lag and lack of sleep, 522 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,533 or it could be the woods. 523 00:19:52,767 --> 00:19:56,367 [eerie music playing] 524 00:19:56,367 --> 00:19:58,800 [Phil] Whoa, whoa, whoa. Jess, I got some stuff. 525 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,934 Come here. 526 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:03,500 What? What am I looking at? 527 00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:05,867 [Phil] I don't know. Do you see that big banding right there? 528 00:20:06,867 --> 00:20:09,266 It's like there's a huge thermal wall. 529 00:20:09,266 --> 00:20:10,734 [Jessica] Oh, weird. 530 00:20:11,867 --> 00:20:13,166 Why is it like that? 531 00:20:13,166 --> 00:20:14,867 It's like there's a border there. 532 00:20:14,867 --> 00:20:16,333 [Phil] It's like there's a big wall. 533 00:20:17,166 --> 00:20:19,834 [Jessica] That's... What the [bleep]. 534 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:24,033 -Never seen that before. -I've never seen that before. 535 00:20:25,066 --> 00:20:25,967 I'm gonna walk over there. 536 00:20:25,967 --> 00:20:28,266 Tell me if you see me go through it. 537 00:20:28,266 --> 00:20:29,734 [Phil] Careful out there, Jess. 538 00:20:36,967 --> 00:20:40,066 [eerie music playing] 539 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:45,367 [Phil] Looks like it should be just ahead of you. 540 00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:46,467 [Jessica] Okay. 541 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,567 [Phil] So weird. 542 00:20:50,567 --> 00:20:51,867 [Jessica] Am I through it? 543 00:20:52,467 --> 00:20:53,200 Keep going. 544 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:57,166 Looks like you're just about there. 545 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Can you still see me though? 546 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,634 I can see you. 547 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,200 I think you're in it. 548 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:10,467 [Jessica] I'm in it? 549 00:21:10,467 --> 00:21:12,600 You don't feel any temperature difference? 550 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,734 No. 551 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,934 What the hell is that border? 552 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,100 [bell ringing] 553 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:21,734 -I hear a bell ringing. -[Phil] What? 554 00:21:22,467 --> 00:21:23,634 There's a... Shh. 555 00:21:31,567 --> 00:21:33,166 Okay. Stand here. 556 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,867 Be super quiet. 557 00:21:35,867 --> 00:21:38,567 It sounds like there's like a ringing 558 00:21:38,567 --> 00:21:41,033 coming off the left-hand side. 559 00:21:46,967 --> 00:21:48,667 [Jessica] [bleep]. It's gone. 560 00:21:48,667 --> 00:21:50,900 Like, the temperature feels the same over here. 561 00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:52,266 -Yeah, it does. -Turn around and see 562 00:21:52,266 --> 00:21:54,033 if it shows up behind us now. 563 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,266 No. 564 00:22:02,166 --> 00:22:03,100 [Jessica] That's weird. 565 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:04,100 It's almost like 566 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:05,600 there was like a barrier. 567 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,734 [Phil] Like, some gradient right here. 568 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:11,367 And I'm also not feeling good. 569 00:22:11,367 --> 00:22:14,567 -[Phil] Really? -I have a big, big headache. 570 00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,967 My chest is on fire. 571 00:22:16,967 --> 00:22:19,467 I just don't feel good. 572 00:22:19,467 --> 00:22:23,367 It just started getting really bad like the last half hour. 573 00:22:23,367 --> 00:22:25,700 I mean, I'm the one that threatened the tree, 574 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,233 so maybe it's focusing on me. 575 00:22:28,066 --> 00:22:29,667 I saw you, you heard your name, 576 00:22:29,667 --> 00:22:30,834 and you're feeling like this? 577 00:22:31,166 --> 00:22:32,066 Yeah. 578 00:22:32,066 --> 00:22:33,166 What time it is? 579 00:22:33,166 --> 00:22:34,400 What time is it? 580 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,700 [Phil] It's 3:25. 581 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,900 [Jessica] Like, it's the witching hour. 582 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:40,000 And it was right at this time that everything 583 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,266 kind of started to go off. 584 00:22:41,266 --> 00:22:43,867 I mean, I feel wretched right now. 585 00:22:43,867 --> 00:22:45,066 [coughs] 586 00:22:45,066 --> 00:22:46,767 [Phil] Yeah, I think we should try to make sure 587 00:22:46,767 --> 00:22:49,166 we can make a way out of this forest tonight. 588 00:22:49,166 --> 00:22:50,533 -[Phil] Okay. -[Jessica] Yeah. 589 00:22:52,367 --> 00:22:54,767 [tense music playing] 590 00:22:58,166 --> 00:23:00,266 [narrator] The next morning, we connect with Josh 591 00:23:00,266 --> 00:23:04,066 to bring him up to speed on our investigation so far. 592 00:23:04,066 --> 00:23:05,467 -[Jessica] Hey, Josh. -[Phil] Hey, Josh. 593 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:06,266 Hey. 594 00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:07,400 What's going on? 595 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,967 Is Hoia living up to the hype? 596 00:23:08,967 --> 00:23:11,000 Oh, we've actually had a fair amount 597 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,500 of activity this first night. 598 00:23:12,500 --> 00:23:14,166 I get it. I see why this place 599 00:23:14,166 --> 00:23:16,066 made such an impact on you, Josh. 600 00:23:16,066 --> 00:23:18,567 At one point, I thought I saw 601 00:23:18,567 --> 00:23:21,500 Jess next to me sitting down, facing away. 602 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,667 I saw her hair, saw the same jacket, 603 00:23:23,667 --> 00:23:26,100 only Jess was way over that way 604 00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,467 and I saw her over this way. 605 00:23:27,467 --> 00:23:28,667 Wow. 606 00:23:28,667 --> 00:23:30,266 Totally different spot in the woods. 607 00:23:30,266 --> 00:23:32,567 I was nowhere near Phil. 608 00:23:32,567 --> 00:23:34,266 And then, it even picked up a notch from there 609 00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:35,900 where I was walking along 610 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,000 and we were kind of headed into this direction that was, 611 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,100 like, really cluttered with trees. 612 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,867 And I distinctly heard somebody say, "Jess." 613 00:23:43,867 --> 00:23:45,667 And not only did I hear it, 614 00:23:45,667 --> 00:23:47,667 but the crew heard it and we caught it on audio. 615 00:23:47,667 --> 00:23:49,533 [Phil] Let's see if there's any heat coming from there. 616 00:23:49,867 --> 00:23:51,066 [man speaking] 617 00:23:51,567 --> 00:23:53,066 [Jessica] What? 618 00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:54,667 That is incredible. 619 00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:56,066 It sounds like what you're describing 620 00:23:56,066 --> 00:23:58,467 is like the forest playing tricks on you. 621 00:23:58,467 --> 00:24:01,166 That totally lines up to my experiences there. 622 00:24:01,166 --> 00:24:02,467 -[Jessica] Absolutely. -[Phil] Yeah. 623 00:24:02,467 --> 00:24:04,700 And bottom line, it seems like a lot of people 624 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:05,867 get lost out in the forest. 625 00:24:05,867 --> 00:24:07,767 We felt like we were kind of getting drawn 626 00:24:07,767 --> 00:24:08,967 deeper and deeper into the forest 627 00:24:08,967 --> 00:24:10,667 and got disoriented ourselves. 628 00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:12,867 We also saw this strange wall of heat 629 00:24:12,867 --> 00:24:15,367 on the FLIR right in our path. 630 00:24:15,367 --> 00:24:16,900 The other kind of weird thing 631 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,500 is I checked our GPS route of the direction 632 00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,100 that the forest was kind of leading us 633 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,000 and it was basically in a straight line 634 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,100 towards the Rotunda. 635 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:25,166 Mmm-hmm. 636 00:24:25,166 --> 00:24:27,166 I literally have goosebumps just listening to this 637 00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:29,100 because it's exactly how I felt there. 638 00:24:29,100 --> 00:24:31,166 You know, this unseen... 639 00:24:31,166 --> 00:24:32,800 Almost magnetic force 640 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,100 drawing you toward that big open circle in the forest. 641 00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:39,100 It's like there's something about that place. 642 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:41,467 And it's obviously what Evan experienced there, 643 00:24:41,467 --> 00:24:44,000 a powerful unseen force. 644 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,467 Look, I think it's obvious you have to go investigate 645 00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:48,667 where that's leading you, 646 00:24:48,667 --> 00:24:50,900 into that Rotunda, that circle, right? 647 00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:53,100 And I think you should do an isolation experiment there. 648 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,567 That's what worked for us all those years ago. 649 00:24:55,567 --> 00:24:58,100 That's where Evan had that insane experience, right? 650 00:24:58,100 --> 00:24:59,367 And you will see, 651 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:02,100 there is just something about this place. 652 00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,400 Now, I've outfitted you guys with more advanced 653 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,567 monitoring equipment than we had back then. 654 00:25:06,567 --> 00:25:09,300 So, hopefully, that will help you get more answers. 655 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:10,967 And I have a few theories I wanna look into. 656 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,767 One of which is to use ground-penetrating radar 657 00:25:13,767 --> 00:25:16,100 to actually see how deep the bedrock is. 658 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,667 Because if it's shallow bedrock, 659 00:25:17,667 --> 00:25:20,100 then maybe the trees just can't grow there. 660 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,266 That's a great call. 661 00:25:21,266 --> 00:25:23,500 I don't think they'd invented GPR back when I was there, 662 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,467 so definitely check that out. 663 00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:26,767 [Jessica] Yeah. And while Phil is doing that, 664 00:25:26,767 --> 00:25:28,500 I wanna head back into town and see 665 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:30,567 who I can reach out to that can tell me more 666 00:25:30,567 --> 00:25:33,667 about, like, the folklore and the history of the area, 667 00:25:33,667 --> 00:25:35,266 specifically just 'cause I wanna figure out 668 00:25:35,266 --> 00:25:37,000 kind of on a supernatural angle, 669 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,166 what are we actually dealing with here? 670 00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:41,767 Are we dealing with strigoi? Are we dealing with iele? 671 00:25:41,767 --> 00:25:43,867 Are we dealing with maybe the forest itself 672 00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:44,867 trying to protect itself? 673 00:25:44,867 --> 00:25:47,367 Like, I just wanna try and narrow this down 674 00:25:47,367 --> 00:25:50,400 so I know who to potentially talk to. 675 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:51,367 [Josh] That sounds great, Jess. 676 00:25:51,367 --> 00:25:53,166 And hey, listen on a... On a serious note, 677 00:25:53,166 --> 00:25:56,000 when you guys do get to that circle in the forest, 678 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,166 be careful, you know? I... 679 00:25:58,166 --> 00:25:59,600 That place is no joke. 680 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,100 I'm wishing you more answers 681 00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,767 and less trauma than we experienced, really. 682 00:26:04,767 --> 00:26:06,367 We'll let you know how it goes. 683 00:26:06,367 --> 00:26:08,367 Good luck you guys. Stay safe. 684 00:26:08,367 --> 00:26:09,967 -[Phil] See you, Josh. -[Jessica] Bye, Josh. 685 00:26:09,967 --> 00:26:12,533 [suspenseful music playing] 686 00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:21,667 [Phil] All right. So, somewhere up here 687 00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:24,000 is the Rotunda. 688 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,767 This is where Josh's cameraman had his experience 689 00:26:26,767 --> 00:26:28,800 of getting thrown by something. 690 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,867 And this is where I'm really curious about what's going on 691 00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:35,400 inside the Earth that makes this area where the trees grow 692 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,300 so different than the Rotunda where they do not. 693 00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:41,000 And there it is 694 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,000 right up ahead. 695 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,033 Wow. 696 00:26:45,667 --> 00:26:47,667 I mean, look at this ground right here. 697 00:26:47,667 --> 00:26:48,867 Covered in leaves. 698 00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:50,900 This is the forest 699 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,133 and I take three steps this way. 700 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:02,266 And all of a sudden, there's just grass everywhere. 701 00:27:02,266 --> 00:27:04,166 I've never seen an environment 702 00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:05,800 where it's so drastic 703 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,467 and it's wild. 704 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,266 What is going on 705 00:27:10,266 --> 00:27:11,567 underneath my feet here? 706 00:27:11,567 --> 00:27:12,767 [narrator] To crack the code 707 00:27:12,767 --> 00:27:14,867 on the secrets of the Rotunda, 708 00:27:14,867 --> 00:27:18,000 I'm meeting two experts in ground-penetrating radar. 709 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,967 Hi. 710 00:27:18,967 --> 00:27:20,500 [narrator] George and Silviu together 711 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,400 have over 3,000 hours of experience 712 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,400 at sites all over Romania. 713 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,400 What I'm really interested in 714 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,600 is what's under the ground here 715 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,000 and what is so different about this spot right here 716 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,266 versus that spot 20 meters away. 717 00:27:33,266 --> 00:27:35,934 [Silviu speaking] 718 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,467 [narrator] This ground-penetrating radar 719 00:27:40,467 --> 00:27:42,567 will scan 16 feet below the Earth 720 00:27:42,567 --> 00:27:45,767 calculating the density of the soil layers. 721 00:27:45,767 --> 00:27:48,000 If it measures any anomalies, voids, 722 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,567 or unusual objects, 723 00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:51,266 we should get an accurate reading 724 00:27:51,266 --> 00:27:52,967 of their shape and size. 725 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:54,767 [George speaking] 726 00:27:58,767 --> 00:28:00,567 [Phil] All right. Let's hit the center. 727 00:28:00,567 --> 00:28:01,834 -See what we find. -[George] Okay. 728 00:28:03,767 --> 00:28:05,800 [Jessica] I reached out to some of my contacts 729 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,500 in the area and they connected me 730 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:08,700 with Mihaela Minca, 731 00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,667 who is one of Romania's most highly regarded witches. 732 00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,467 I'm meeting Mihaela and her coven at a local tea house 733 00:28:14,467 --> 00:28:17,367 where I hope to gain insight into what paranormal forces 734 00:28:17,367 --> 00:28:20,066 might be at play in the Hoia-Baciu forest. 735 00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:23,000 Hello, Mihaela. 736 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,700 -Hello. -[Jessica] Hi. 737 00:28:24,700 --> 00:28:26,567 Witchcraft is common in Romanian culture 738 00:28:26,567 --> 00:28:28,367 with many ordinary Romanians 739 00:28:28,367 --> 00:28:30,300 turning to witches to find love, 740 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,767 acquire money, or to punish their enemies. 741 00:28:33,767 --> 00:28:38,066 [in Portuguese] 742 00:28:38,066 --> 00:28:41,266 In Hoia-Baciu forest, it's known from all times 743 00:28:41,266 --> 00:28:42,700 that it's the most bad spirits 744 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,867 and if you want to hurt someone, 745 00:28:44,867 --> 00:28:47,467 then it's necessary to invoke the bad spirits. 746 00:28:49,567 --> 00:28:52,700 [George speaking foreign language] 747 00:28:52,700 --> 00:28:54,800 [Silviu speaking] 748 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,166 -[Phil] Already? -[Silviu] Already. Yeah. 749 00:28:56,166 --> 00:28:58,000 -Took two steps. -[Silviu] Yeah. 750 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,166 [Phil] And what does he think this anomaly could be? 751 00:29:01,166 --> 00:29:02,300 It could be a cavity, 752 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:04,166 it could be some different rocks. 753 00:29:04,166 --> 00:29:05,467 So, there could be a cavity... 754 00:29:05,467 --> 00:29:06,767 -[Silviu] Yeah. Yeah. -underground right here? 755 00:29:06,767 --> 00:29:07,867 That's amazing. 756 00:29:07,867 --> 00:29:09,667 And we've only taken about four steps 757 00:29:09,667 --> 00:29:11,133 in the entire Rotunda. 758 00:29:12,266 --> 00:29:13,467 [George speaking foreign language] 759 00:29:13,467 --> 00:29:14,500 Right here? 760 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:15,867 [George speaking foreign language] 761 00:29:15,867 --> 00:29:17,266 [Silviu] Yeah. He thinks 'cause it's the same 762 00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:19,600 as the area over there, 763 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,200 it could probably be a small cavity 764 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,166 or maybe a small tunnel or something else. 765 00:29:23,166 --> 00:29:24,233 [Phil] Wow. 766 00:29:25,266 --> 00:29:26,100 I mean, to be honest, 767 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:27,867 these are remarkable results already. 768 00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:29,634 That there could be chambers underneath here. 769 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:31,834 I think we found something. 770 00:29:33,166 --> 00:29:34,567 Would there be such a thing 771 00:29:34,567 --> 00:29:36,867 as a guardian spirit of the forest 772 00:29:36,867 --> 00:29:39,500 that would try to protect the forest 773 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,433 from the people that are coming in? 774 00:29:43,967 --> 00:29:45,367 [Mihaela] It's possible this thing 775 00:29:45,367 --> 00:29:46,700 because in this situation 776 00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:50,133 started the forest to be like cursed. 777 00:29:53,767 --> 00:29:55,900 Many years ago, there was a beautiful woman 778 00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,767 who fell in love with a local shepherd. 779 00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:04,600 But she was from a very wealthy family 780 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,000 who forbid her to be with this man. 781 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,000 One night, the shepherd went searching 782 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,967 for a missing sheep in the Hoia-Baciu forest. 783 00:30:13,266 --> 00:30:15,166 He was lured deeper into the woods 784 00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:18,433 by what he thought was his distressed sheep. 785 00:30:21,166 --> 00:30:23,066 He was never seen again. 786 00:30:23,066 --> 00:30:25,500 The lover was so distraught, 787 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,266 she went to the forest 788 00:30:27,266 --> 00:30:29,433 and hung herself from a crooked tree. 789 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,567 Any person that kills themselves 790 00:30:33,567 --> 00:30:35,266 could become strigoi, 791 00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:37,800 spirits that rise from the grave 792 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,600 and terrorize the village. 793 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,867 In order to break their curse, 794 00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:43,467 you must find the missing bodies 795 00:30:43,467 --> 00:30:45,100 from a long lost cemetery 796 00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,467 and destroy them 797 00:30:46,467 --> 00:30:47,834 setting their souls free. 798 00:30:52,367 --> 00:30:53,533 [George] Okay. 799 00:30:56,767 --> 00:30:57,867 [George speaking foreign language] 800 00:30:57,867 --> 00:30:59,033 [Silviu] Another one here. 801 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,967 -[Phil] Okay. Right here. -[Silviu] Yeah, right there. 802 00:31:02,967 --> 00:31:04,166 [George speaking foreign language] 803 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:05,200 [Phil] Another one right here. 804 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,767 [Silviu] Another one right here. Okay. 805 00:31:06,767 --> 00:31:09,367 So, what's remarkable is that ground-penetrating radar 806 00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:11,600 has never been done here at the Rotunda. 807 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400 And it seems like we're picking up 808 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,066 a lot of anomalies every five, ten steps, 809 00:31:16,066 --> 00:31:18,600 and it almost looks like it's starting to put up a pattern. 810 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,867 [Silviu] There is another one here. 811 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,266 -[Phil] Another one here? -[Silviu] Yeah. 812 00:31:21,266 --> 00:31:23,634 Same depth, 1.5 meters. 813 00:31:24,367 --> 00:31:26,567 [Phil] It is unusual 814 00:31:26,567 --> 00:31:29,800 how they all seem very evenly spaced apart. 815 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,467 I mean, based on the way this is laid out 816 00:31:32,467 --> 00:31:34,567 and the depth and the distance apart, 817 00:31:34,567 --> 00:31:37,800 do you think this could be a graveyard that we're on? 818 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,767 [tense music playing] 819 00:31:43,367 --> 00:31:46,500 Do you think this could be a graveyard that we're on? 820 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:48,767 [George speaking foreign language] 821 00:31:48,767 --> 00:31:50,567 [Silviu speaking] 822 00:31:50,567 --> 00:31:52,567 He thinks he needs like a week 823 00:31:52,567 --> 00:31:54,100 to really get into detail 824 00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:56,700 and do everything in detail. 825 00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:59,166 This is not the results I was expecting, 826 00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:02,000 but I think they're even more fascinating 827 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,634 than I could have anticipated. 828 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,800 [woman] So, she will open now the tarot cards for you. 829 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:14,000 And she will tell you how you will have to be prepared 830 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,467 in your journey when you will go to Hoia-Baciu. 831 00:32:17,467 --> 00:32:19,367 -[Jessica] Okay. -[woman] Your right hand, 832 00:32:19,367 --> 00:32:21,800 -put on the globe, please. -[Jessica] My right hand? 833 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:22,734 Yeah. 834 00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:25,533 [Mihaela] Jessica... 835 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,367 now with your left hand, 836 00:32:28,367 --> 00:32:31,266 you have to take three cards from the middle of the deck. 837 00:32:31,266 --> 00:32:32,233 [Jessica] Okay. 838 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,834 [Mihaela] Hmm. 839 00:32:51,967 --> 00:32:54,367 By entering Hoia-Baciu on the Rotunda, 840 00:32:54,367 --> 00:32:57,066 you will face the most powerful evil magic. 841 00:32:58,066 --> 00:33:00,634 It is important for you to be prepared. 842 00:33:01,667 --> 00:33:04,066 You must bring a sickle or scythe with you 843 00:33:04,867 --> 00:33:06,900 as it provides protection from dark forces 844 00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:08,433 that wish you harm. 845 00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:14,300 Here is a magical talisman that we prepared for you. 846 00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:16,433 We have done rituals with this amulet. 847 00:33:19,066 --> 00:33:21,600 It will protect you in your journey 848 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,233 and it will bring you luck. 849 00:33:26,066 --> 00:33:29,166 [suspenseful music playing] 850 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,467 [Phil] Get ready for this, Jess. 851 00:33:32,467 --> 00:33:33,467 [Jessica] Okay. 852 00:33:33,467 --> 00:33:34,467 [Phil] We found something. 853 00:33:34,467 --> 00:33:35,900 Underneath the Rotunda? 854 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:38,567 Multiple some things started popping up. 855 00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:41,467 They look like chambers or stones underground 856 00:33:41,467 --> 00:33:45,600 and in a pattern that went all the way around the perimeter. 857 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,166 -Oh, my God. -[Phil] Yes. 858 00:33:47,166 --> 00:33:48,567 [Jessica] That's huge. 859 00:33:48,567 --> 00:33:50,266 So, then what do you guys think it is? 860 00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:51,667 What did the GPR technician say? 861 00:33:51,667 --> 00:33:54,367 The way those stones were arranged, 862 00:33:54,367 --> 00:33:56,166 it could even be a cemetery up there. 863 00:33:56,166 --> 00:33:57,100 Oh, my God. 864 00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:59,367 -What if it's a cemetery? -Can you believe it? 865 00:33:59,367 --> 00:34:01,166 So, when I met with the witches yesterday... 866 00:34:01,166 --> 00:34:02,367 Yeah. 867 00:34:02,367 --> 00:34:04,567 that actually kind of tracks with what they were telling me 868 00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:07,100 as far as strigoi being in the area. 869 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,467 There very well could be 870 00:34:09,467 --> 00:34:12,367 a strigoi burial 871 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,433 out at the Rotunda. 872 00:34:14,433 --> 00:34:17,967 -That's so frigging cool. -[Phil] Yeah. 873 00:34:17,967 --> 00:34:19,667 So, you think that's why there's no trees 874 00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:21,100 growing in that area 875 00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,867 blocked by whatever it was 876 00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:24,000 that was built there? 877 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,300 Possibly or maybe something's leaching out of them. 878 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,166 I still am not quite sure 879 00:34:29,166 --> 00:34:31,000 why nothing is growing there. 880 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,767 [Jessica] That's true, 'cause, like, 881 00:34:32,767 --> 00:34:35,300 there's plenty of graveyards with trees and plants... 882 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,100 -[Phil] Yeah. Yeah. -growing all the time. 883 00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:38,400 So, why wouldn't it grow there 884 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,834 in between the spaces if it was a graveyard? 885 00:34:41,667 --> 00:34:42,800 -I don't know. -That's still... 886 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,467 -That's so weird. What? -It is. 887 00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:46,000 -Why? -I don't know. 888 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,100 Now, I feel like we're just getting more mysteries. 889 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,200 What's underneath the Rotunda? 890 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,266 Why is it keeping plants from growing 891 00:34:52,266 --> 00:34:54,166 or is it even keeping plants from growing? 892 00:34:54,166 --> 00:34:55,300 [Phil] I know. We came here for answers 893 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,166 and we so far just have a lot more questions. 894 00:35:00,066 --> 00:35:01,767 [narrator] We know that paranormal reports 895 00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:04,166 in Hoia-Baciu are most common at night. 896 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,667 So, we head to the Rotunda 897 00:35:06,667 --> 00:35:08,900 to conduct the same isolation experiment, 898 00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:12,367 which forever changed Josh and his cameraman, Evan, 899 00:35:12,367 --> 00:35:14,000 a decade and a half ago. 900 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,500 Welcome to the Rotunda. 901 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:16,900 [Jessica] Oh, my God. 902 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:18,567 This is strange. 903 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,467 Like Josh said, why don't we replicate 904 00:35:22,467 --> 00:35:24,266 what he and his team did 905 00:35:24,266 --> 00:35:26,200 when they were just sitting here 906 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,767 self-isolating 30 minutes each? 907 00:35:28,767 --> 00:35:31,667 I've got the bag of equipment he sent us 908 00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:33,033 so we can set everything up. 909 00:35:33,767 --> 00:35:35,100 [narrator] This time, we're equipped 910 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:37,967 with more advanced tools to monitor the clearing. 911 00:35:37,967 --> 00:35:40,567 We know that Evan says he was sent backwards 912 00:35:40,567 --> 00:35:42,100 by an invisible force 913 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,767 and suffered multiple scratches on his arm 914 00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:47,467 that left him physically scarred. 915 00:35:47,467 --> 00:35:50,567 So, we're rigging an EMF trip wire perimeter 916 00:35:50,567 --> 00:35:52,700 composed of a string of LEDs 917 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,333 connected to individual EMF sensors. 918 00:35:57,166 --> 00:36:00,166 If there's a disturbance in the electromagnetic field, 919 00:36:00,166 --> 00:36:03,066 the lights will turn from purple to red. 920 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,900 We also set up four infrared surveillance cameras 921 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,967 pointing in towards the circle. 922 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,900 [Jessica] It's a pretty good circle. 923 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,367 [narrator] Jess and I will each take our 30-minute turn 924 00:36:15,367 --> 00:36:17,100 at the center of the Rotunda, 925 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,000 armed with a night vision camera 926 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,066 and a walkie to communicate. 927 00:36:21,066 --> 00:36:22,567 -Okay. -What do you think? 928 00:36:22,567 --> 00:36:24,000 What are these bright lights? 929 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,567 Those are actually the IR lights from the cameras 930 00:36:26,567 --> 00:36:28,300 -pointing at each other. -Okay. 931 00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:29,767 So, ignore that and just pay attention 932 00:36:29,767 --> 00:36:31,767 -to the person in the middle? -Yeah. 933 00:36:31,767 --> 00:36:32,967 -Why don't you go up first? -Okay. 934 00:36:32,967 --> 00:36:34,100 Thirty minutes? 935 00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,367 -Thirty minutes. -[Phil] Okay. 936 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,734 Heading out. 937 00:36:39,266 --> 00:36:41,634 [dramatic music playing] 938 00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:51,233 Crisscross applesauce, Phil. 939 00:36:52,667 --> 00:36:55,100 For a minute there, I forgot you were watching me. 940 00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:56,266 [Jessica laughs] 941 00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:57,967 Starting timer on my phone. 942 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,333 All right. Going. 943 00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:04,133 Thirty minutes. 944 00:37:16,367 --> 00:37:18,133 Jess, are you moving around over there? 945 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:20,900 No, I am not. 946 00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,967 I'm hearing some movement rustling around me. 947 00:37:28,367 --> 00:37:30,700 I just saw a little light flicker in the forest. 948 00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,500 What? Where? Which direction? 949 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,567 You see where I'm pointing? It's right behind that camera. 950 00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:37,166 [Jessica] Yup. 951 00:37:37,166 --> 00:37:38,100 Oh, man. 952 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,166 That IR light's blowing it out. I can't see. 953 00:37:40,166 --> 00:37:41,333 Kill it. 954 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,533 Something just made a little grunt. 955 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,000 I'm watching. I don't see anything moving in the forest. 956 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,567 I think the isolation's starting to get to me. 957 00:38:00,567 --> 00:38:03,367 Every little noise is making me jump. 958 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,266 I think like being alone 959 00:38:05,266 --> 00:38:07,367 out here in the middle of the Rotunda 960 00:38:07,367 --> 00:38:09,100 is not my favorite place to be. 961 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:11,367 I keep hearing little cracks, 962 00:38:11,367 --> 00:38:13,567 little bits of movement in the forest all around me. 963 00:38:13,567 --> 00:38:16,367 Knowing where we are, the legends about it 964 00:38:16,367 --> 00:38:19,467 and what could be buried underneath me right now, 965 00:38:19,467 --> 00:38:20,834 it's kind of terrifying. 966 00:38:21,467 --> 00:38:22,634 How much time you got left? 967 00:38:23,166 --> 00:38:24,567 Less than one minute now. 968 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,266 [Jessica] Is this us? 969 00:38:26,266 --> 00:38:28,967 Who's this right here? 970 00:38:28,967 --> 00:38:30,834 I saw a little light pop up. 971 00:38:32,367 --> 00:38:33,533 Do you see anything? 972 00:38:36,266 --> 00:38:37,233 [Phil] I see nothing. 973 00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:39,100 All right. My time is up. 974 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,000 My time is up. 975 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,233 Let me grab my bag. I'll come out. 976 00:38:49,066 --> 00:38:51,667 I'm gonna have the recorder going the whole time 977 00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:53,567 just in case something decides to talk to me 978 00:38:53,567 --> 00:38:54,867 through the recorder. 979 00:38:54,867 --> 00:38:56,266 So, right now, Jess is getting set 980 00:38:56,266 --> 00:38:58,367 for her isolation experiment. 981 00:38:58,367 --> 00:39:01,367 Okay. Protection amulet on. 982 00:39:01,367 --> 00:39:02,567 She has a recorder. 983 00:39:02,567 --> 00:39:04,000 She got her scythe. 984 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,767 Scythe is here next to me in the ground. 985 00:39:07,767 --> 00:39:09,467 She's kind of prepared across the board 986 00:39:09,467 --> 00:39:11,667 for anything out there. 987 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 And hopefully, if anything does happen, 988 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,767 we will have it on the camera. 989 00:39:16,767 --> 00:39:18,333 All right. I'm about to hit the timer. 990 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,667 Good luck out there. 991 00:39:21,266 --> 00:39:23,834 Thirty minutes starts now. 992 00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:31,333 Is there any spirits here, spirits of the forest? 993 00:39:31,667 --> 00:39:32,867 [Phil] Oh. 994 00:39:33,867 --> 00:39:34,867 Look at the camera. It's showing up. 995 00:39:34,867 --> 00:39:36,033 [Jessica] Spiritual people going by? 996 00:39:37,867 --> 00:39:39,467 Any iele? 997 00:39:39,467 --> 00:39:40,834 That is weird. 998 00:39:41,367 --> 00:39:43,000 Any strigoi? 999 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,066 All these cameras are in IR mode except this one, 1000 00:39:46,667 --> 00:39:48,667 just stopped working. 1001 00:39:52,967 --> 00:39:54,934 Oh, camera just went down. 1002 00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:58,834 Just completely, completely down. 1003 00:40:00,667 --> 00:40:02,133 Jess, we just lost the camera. 1004 00:40:03,166 --> 00:40:05,100 It's not even that I can't see in the dark. 1005 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,467 It's just not connected at all. 1006 00:40:07,467 --> 00:40:08,300 Which one? 1007 00:40:09,767 --> 00:40:11,600 I guess it's the one with no red lights. 1008 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,533 Can you... Can you figure that out? 1009 00:40:14,166 --> 00:40:16,000 And we just lost another. 1010 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,367 What the [bleep]. They all are still on. 1011 00:40:19,567 --> 00:40:21,266 Signal's not reaching here for some reason. 1012 00:40:21,266 --> 00:40:23,734 I'm gonna move the antenna, see if that helps. 1013 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,266 Are you feeling okay? 1014 00:40:30,266 --> 00:40:31,200 I'm scared [bleep] this, 1015 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,867 but yeah, I don't feel sick or anything, 1016 00:40:32,867 --> 00:40:34,500 if that's what you mean. 1017 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:36,166 How are the EMF lights looking? 1018 00:40:36,166 --> 00:40:37,300 Anything changing color? 1019 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,300 No, nothing. They're all the same. 1020 00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:40,367 This is crazy. 1021 00:40:40,367 --> 00:40:43,033 Half of our surveillance system is down right now. 1022 00:40:46,667 --> 00:40:48,767 I just heard something walk next to me 1023 00:40:48,767 --> 00:40:50,333 on... In the circle. 1024 00:40:51,166 --> 00:40:52,967 [Phil] Okay. That, I did not hear. 1025 00:40:52,967 --> 00:40:54,266 How close? 1026 00:40:54,266 --> 00:40:57,467 Like, woo, right next to me. 1027 00:40:58,367 --> 00:41:01,100 Camera's flashing big time. 1028 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,166 [Phil] I'm seeing that, 1029 00:41:02,166 --> 00:41:03,800 a lot of in and out light right now. 1030 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,266 [Jessica] Oh, my [bleep] God. 1031 00:41:05,266 --> 00:41:07,533 Are you out here by the camera right in front of me? 1032 00:41:08,667 --> 00:41:10,100 [Phil] No. What's happening? 1033 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,600 It just moved, 1034 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,166 the camera that I'm staring at. 1035 00:41:14,166 --> 00:41:16,500 Oh, my God. It [bleep] moved. It's moving. 1036 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,634 [Phil] What? What? 1037 00:41:18,066 --> 00:41:19,634 Phil, it's moving. 1038 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:21,967 [Phil] What do you mean it's... 1039 00:41:21,967 --> 00:41:24,667 Oh, my God. It's [bleep] moving. 1040 00:41:24,667 --> 00:41:27,200 I'm not seeing any movement on the screen. 1041 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,233 Can you point again to the one that is moving? 1042 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,033 [Phil] That is so weird. 1043 00:41:38,166 --> 00:41:39,667 Jess, as far as I can tell, 1044 00:41:39,667 --> 00:41:42,100 it is not moving at all. 1045 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,567 So, what you are seeing is not showing up on video. 1046 00:41:45,567 --> 00:41:48,000 Three glowing red lights 1047 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,133 that indicate that the camera is on 1048 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,567 start to float around. 1049 00:41:53,567 --> 00:41:55,667 Jess, since you have two IR cameras, 1050 00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:56,767 maybe you should take the one 1051 00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:59,800 and aim it towards the camera that you're seeing moving. 1052 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000 That's an excellent idea. Hold on. 1053 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,734 Were any of the strigoi moving the camera? 1054 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:07,634 Oh, my God. 1055 00:42:09,567 --> 00:42:12,233 Is there anything out here with me right now? 1056 00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:18,233 Are you strigoi? 1057 00:42:22,367 --> 00:42:23,166 Oh. 1058 00:42:25,867 --> 00:42:27,867 Jess, behind you on the right. 1059 00:42:27,867 --> 00:42:28,967 On the right. On the right. 1060 00:42:30,066 --> 00:42:32,166 I'm seeing on camera. I'm seeing on camera. 1061 00:42:32,166 --> 00:42:33,166 [Jessica] Oh, my God. 1062 00:42:33,166 --> 00:42:34,300 Phil, there's somebody out here with me. 1063 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:35,834 [screams] 1064 00:42:37,467 --> 00:42:38,867 [suspenseful music playing] 1065 00:42:38,867 --> 00:42:40,400 The forests of Romania 1066 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,266 are filled with stories of mythical creatures. 1067 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,500 The most infamous is Muma Padurii. 1068 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,867 Her name, literally meaning mother of the forest. 1069 00:42:50,867 --> 00:42:54,000 She appears sometimes as a beautiful young woman 1070 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,166 and sometimes is an old crone 1071 00:42:56,767 --> 00:42:58,634 with tree bark for skin. 1072 00:42:59,767 --> 00:43:02,734 This shapeshifter cares for the forest and its creatures 1073 00:43:03,867 --> 00:43:06,834 and protects it violently from any trespassers. 1074 00:43:08,066 --> 00:43:11,233 This is said to be particularly true for kids. 1075 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:14,867 If Muma Padurii catches errant children 1076 00:43:14,867 --> 00:43:16,634 wandering her forest, 1077 00:43:18,166 --> 00:43:21,266 she won't hesitate to boil them in her soup. 1078 00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:23,266 Muma was the inspiration 1079 00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:25,166 for the tale of Hansel and Gretel. 1080 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,667 There's no gingerbread house in the original, 1081 00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:31,266 but its ultimate lesson is the same. 1082 00:43:31,266 --> 00:43:34,567 Children should never stray where they don't belong. 1083 00:43:34,567 --> 00:43:36,066 Sleep well, kids. 1084 00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,967 [suspenseful music playing] 1085 00:43:38,967 --> 00:43:39,900 [Phil] Jess. 1086 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,667 [Jessica] Dude. Dude. Dude. 1087 00:43:41,667 --> 00:43:44,767 I saw somebody walking along the forest line. 1088 00:43:44,767 --> 00:43:46,934 Is there anything over there right now? 1089 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,166 [Phil] It is complete dead zone back there. 1090 00:43:51,166 --> 00:43:52,467 I'm not seeing anything on the FLIR. 1091 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,000 I don't... Oh. 1092 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,100 All of our crew was over by me. 1093 00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,467 No one was over here. 1094 00:43:57,467 --> 00:43:58,767 Nobody was over here. 1095 00:43:58,767 --> 00:44:00,233 So... 1096 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,667 I think we need to go into the forest 1097 00:44:03,667 --> 00:44:05,467 and figure out what the heck was over there. 1098 00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:07,767 [Jessica] I mean, let's go look for footprints, I guess. 1099 00:44:07,767 --> 00:44:08,967 I'm bringing the scythe. 1100 00:44:10,066 --> 00:44:13,266 So, it would be right over here, this area. 1101 00:44:13,266 --> 00:44:14,066 [Phil] This area. 1102 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,266 This is so weird. 1103 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,467 I'm trying to see if there's any hotspots at all. 1104 00:44:23,467 --> 00:44:25,400 [Jessica] Are you getting anything? 1105 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,166 Getting nothing. 1106 00:44:29,166 --> 00:44:31,800 I distinctly saw 1107 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,667 a dark figure walk through the trees. 1108 00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:36,767 I almost wouldn't believe you 1109 00:44:36,767 --> 00:44:38,000 and just say that it was your eyes 1110 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,834 playing tricks on you, but I saw it on the video, 1111 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,066 whatever that was. 1112 00:44:45,266 --> 00:44:47,266 Jess, behind you on the right. 1113 00:44:47,266 --> 00:44:48,533 On the right. On the right. 1114 00:44:50,867 --> 00:44:51,834 [Jessica] Okay. 1115 00:44:53,767 --> 00:44:55,867 I think there's something out here. 1116 00:44:56,567 --> 00:44:57,500 What time is it? 1117 00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:59,700 It is 1:04. 1118 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:03,100 I think we should just keep our gear out 1119 00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,867 and just wait it out, see what happens. 1120 00:45:04,867 --> 00:45:06,967 Let's get our stuff back up and running if we can. 1121 00:45:06,967 --> 00:45:09,433 -Let's keep it going. -Okay. 1122 00:45:11,266 --> 00:45:12,667 [Josh] My team scoured the woods 1123 00:45:12,667 --> 00:45:15,000 with thermal imaging cameras until morning. 1124 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,266 But whatever they saw 1125 00:45:16,266 --> 00:45:18,166 lurking at the edge of the Rotunda 1126 00:45:18,166 --> 00:45:21,100 did not emit any detectable heat signature, 1127 00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:23,367 considering the uncanny similarity 1128 00:45:23,367 --> 00:45:25,767 to recent eyewitness testimony. 1129 00:45:25,767 --> 00:45:28,066 And we saw a shadow, 1130 00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:31,200 like a small human figure. 1131 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,767 [Josh] It appears that this shadow figure phenomenon 1132 00:45:33,767 --> 00:45:37,100 could be deeply connected to the Hoia-Baciu Forest. 1133 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,367 But that's not all we found. 1134 00:45:39,367 --> 00:45:41,000 [Phil] The camera behind you 1135 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,500 to your left is blinking. 1136 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:44,700 It just keeps blinking on and off. 1137 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,066 Yeah. I see it too. 1138 00:45:46,066 --> 00:45:47,967 [Josh] It wasn't the first time we received 1139 00:45:47,967 --> 00:45:51,200 what seemed like visual feedback from the forest, 1140 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,166 the thermal wall my team encountered 1141 00:45:53,166 --> 00:45:55,867 on the first night of the investigation. 1142 00:45:55,867 --> 00:45:57,667 Can you still see me though? 1143 00:45:57,667 --> 00:45:59,400 [Phil] I think you're in it. 1144 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,367 [Josh] Served as an inexplicable visual marker 1145 00:46:02,367 --> 00:46:04,767 of the Rotunda's perimeter. 1146 00:46:04,767 --> 00:46:06,867 Some might say it seemed to be guiding them 1147 00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:09,166 directly toward the Rotunda 1148 00:46:09,166 --> 00:46:11,266 or from another point of view, 1149 00:46:11,266 --> 00:46:14,166 warding off those who dare enter it. 1150 00:46:14,166 --> 00:46:16,266 [Jessica] My chest is on fire. 1151 00:46:16,266 --> 00:46:18,266 I just don't feel good. 1152 00:46:18,266 --> 00:46:19,867 It's just started getting really bad 1153 00:46:19,867 --> 00:46:21,367 like the last half hour. 1154 00:46:21,367 --> 00:46:23,166 [Josh] And as they approached the Rotunda, 1155 00:46:23,166 --> 00:46:26,500 both Phil and Jess experienced unexplained sounds. 1156 00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:28,333 See if there's any heat coming from there. 1157 00:46:29,967 --> 00:46:31,200 [Jessica] What? 1158 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,367 [Josh] Hallucinations. 1159 00:46:32,367 --> 00:46:33,467 You know what's weird, Jess? 1160 00:46:33,467 --> 00:46:35,567 I just turned and thought you were crouched right here, 1161 00:46:35,567 --> 00:46:36,567 did a double take. 1162 00:46:36,567 --> 00:46:38,667 [Josh] And bizarre equipment failures. 1163 00:46:38,667 --> 00:46:40,433 [chainsaw buzzing] 1164 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:42,800 It just shut off. 1165 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,567 [Josh] Phil returned to the circle 1166 00:46:44,567 --> 00:46:46,200 to collect a soil sample, 1167 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,600 hoping it would reveal some clues. 1168 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,367 The analysis yielded normal results, 1169 00:46:51,367 --> 00:46:55,100 which only corroborates what my team found 15 years ago. 1170 00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:55,900 [George speaking foreign language] 1171 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:57,767 -[Silviu] One here. -Here. Yeah. 1172 00:46:57,767 --> 00:46:59,567 [Josh] But things got interesting 1173 00:46:59,567 --> 00:47:01,767 when our ground-penetrating radar specialists 1174 00:47:01,767 --> 00:47:03,800 sent us their final report. 1175 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,600 They unveiled a mystifying grid pattern 1176 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,800 that appeared to be unseen voids beneath the earth. 1177 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,467 These mysterious anomalies 1178 00:47:11,467 --> 00:47:13,100 were uniformly spaced 1179 00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:15,400 and at an identical depth. 1180 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,367 Although we couldn't excavate the Earth 1181 00:47:17,367 --> 00:47:19,467 to definitively prove Phil's theory 1182 00:47:19,467 --> 00:47:21,066 of an ancient graveyard... 1183 00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,767 [Jessica] I think there's something out here. 1184 00:47:24,767 --> 00:47:28,000 [Josh] We came across a centuries old map of the region, 1185 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,200 which clearly shows the existence 1186 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,300 of the exact same circle, 1187 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:34,166 suggesting that whatever force 1188 00:47:34,166 --> 00:47:36,367 is stopping the trees from growing there 1189 00:47:36,367 --> 00:47:38,667 has been doing so for ages. 1190 00:47:38,667 --> 00:47:41,000 [Phil] I just got goosebumps. 1191 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,900 [Josh] My team's journey through the forest 1192 00:47:42,900 --> 00:47:45,567 and their subterranean research at the Rotunda 1193 00:47:45,567 --> 00:47:48,567 has only cemented Hoia-Baciu's legacy 1194 00:47:48,567 --> 00:47:51,567 as an epicenter for unseen forces 1195 00:47:51,567 --> 00:47:55,400 and one of the strangest places we've ever set foot. 1196 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,166 [Jessica] Phil. Phil. Phil, come here. 1197 00:47:57,166 --> 00:47:58,500 Come here now. 1198 00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,100 [screams]