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Yeah!
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[all clapping]
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-I am Vanessa Lachey.
-And I'm Nick Lachey.
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All right. Season two of this experiment
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certainly was one wild ride.
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[Nick L.] That's right.
Six couples fell in love
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and got engaged sight unseen in the pods.
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Five couples ended up at the altar,
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and two said "I do."
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And it proved, yet again,
that love really is blind.
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Yes!
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I cannot wait to hear
how everybody's doing.
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What's going on, because today,
we are joined by the entire cast
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to answer every burning question
that you're dying to know.
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No topic is off-limits.
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[Nick L.] All right. So be honest.
How are y'all feeling?
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Feeling good?
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[Vanessa] Anybody nervous?
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-I'm nervous.
-Okay. You guys are nervous.
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-[Deepti] I think we all are.
-I'm nervous about how we get edited.
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That's what you're gonna lead with?
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Hey, I'm gonna say
what's on everyone's mind.
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-[Nick L.] So on-brand, Shake.
-[Vanessa] So, you know what?
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Then this is a good opportunity
after a question
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to clear
whatever air you want.
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Take this opportunity, okay?
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-You're first-- [muttering]
-[Shake] We're not supposed to fight.
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-Fight with them.
-No, no, no.
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-All right, so on that note--
-[Mallory] Oh, my God.
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-It's good to stand up--
-That was a low blow.
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You went straight to a victim mode
right away.
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I'm not a victim, baby.
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-That's what you sounded like, though.
-[Nick T.] Totally agree.
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If you're gonna say something, you're
opening up the platform to be ridiculed.
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Fine! If that's the case,
let me finish what I'm saying.
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We'll clear the air today. Trust me.
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We've got a couple sections
dedicated to you, my friend.
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But I'm going to bring it back around
to this.
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We know it must have been extremely
emotional, as we've just talked about,
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to watch your stories unfold
before the entire world.
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I want you to know that we obviously
saw what everybody else saw.
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Now that we're here with you today,
there are a couple storylines
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that the fans really dug into
and really want to know more about.
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And one person who made her feelings known
in the competition early was Natalie.
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Shaina, we know you had strong feelings
for Shayne.
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What was it like hearing Natalie brag
about her connection to Shayne
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right in front of you?
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It's just awkward.
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'Cause obviously, it was
very strong between Natalie and Shayne.
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And so, I wanted to be respectful.
It's just very awkward.
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Okay, so was it hard for you
then, to kind of hear...
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'cause I know at the beginning,
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no one knew really
who was going after who.
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And then she came in so excited, beaming,
with love and hearts in her eyes.
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Was it hard for you to hear that?
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It was-- Yes, it's hard to hear.
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But like, at the same time,
I was also talking to Kyle,
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so I was honestly soaking
in the whole, entire experiment.
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I think I definitely should've been
way more forthright, and I wasn't.
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That's definitely probably
my biggest regret.
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But I think it worked out.
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They chose each other,
and that's how it happened.
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That's how it's supposed to be.
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What's meant to be is meant to be,
at the end of the day.
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[Nick L.] Well, Shayne.
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-[Vanessa] Hi.
-I know, big moment.
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-How you doing, buddy?
-[laughing] Hi.
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He's like, "It's coming, it's coming.
I'm next."
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[Nick L.] No, but a big moment
for the viewers I think was when
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you mistakenly thought Natalie
was Shaina, and--
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-I want to address that.
-I'm going to give you the chance to.
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But as opposed to apologizing
for that mistake,
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your response was kind of turn around
and just gaslight her.
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-[Shayne] Yes, 100%. That's--
-Would you redo that moment?
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That was easily the biggest mistake
I made on the show.
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I played the victim card right away,
and tried to defend myself.
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That was-- you know, as a man,
that's not what you want to do.
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I just felt personally attacked because
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we're listening through a tiny,
little microphone through a wall.
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You hear it differently.
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But I definitely, 100% regret,
and I'm honestly ashamed of the fact
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that I just went
into straight attack mode.
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I really wish I would have just
let her speak.
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As she should have. Yeah, 100%. I'm...
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-Yeah, it's embarrassing. Yeah.
-[Nick L.] No--
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It is. I recognize it.
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-[Kyle] We all did it.
-[Shayne] It's just...
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-[Kyle] We all did it. I've done it.
-It was a tough situation I was in.
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But it's no excuse for what happened.
Absolutely not.
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I'm also curious,
because watching it back,
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I'm just curious why you would
take the approach of asking
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-Natalie to be your girlfriend...
-Yeah.
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...if you were still interested
in exploring some other connections.
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[Shayne] I got caught in the moment
of the situation.
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I felt like I needed to,
and I wanted to, I guess...
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assert her, like,
this is where I stand and whatnot.
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And that's the way I did it.
I should not have said that either.
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She knew she was number one.
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But still, saying the girlfriend comment
was completely unnecessary.
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[Vanessa] I noticed, again, watching,
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it's like different people
bring out different...
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things in you, right?
And I noticed that whenever you would...
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flirt and talk to Natalie, it definitely
seemed to be more on a deeper level.
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But I also noticed the way
that you would flirt with Shaina,
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it was like, "What are you wearing?"
Every time.
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-Without fail. "What are you wearing?"
-Crop tops.
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[Vanessa] Is that a different--
You definitely had a different dynamic
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-going on with both of them.
-Yeah, 100%.
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[Vanessa] Two things
you were looking to explore?
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One was, "I'm having fun."
And I get it. I mean, we... dated.
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No. The point of the show
is to, honestly, find your wife.
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And a lot of people literally stopped
after one person.
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-[Vanessa] Yeah.
-Okay? It's not like I...
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I didn't change my mind last minute
or anything like that.
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No, I wanted to explore both situations
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because they are both
completely different.
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And it was like I had to really figure out
which one, I guess...
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That's not what I mean by that--
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-[Shake] Can I say something, Shayne?
-Oh, God.
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Sorry to interrupt you. I...
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This show-- I didn't want
to lose the thought, I'm sorry.
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But this show is about finding a wife?
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I don't think that's true.
This show's about finding love, okay?
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And the way I see it--
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[Nick T.] As long as she can get
on your shoulders.
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[Shake] All right. I would like that.
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-I stand by that.
-And a size zero.
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Actually, thank you. But I...
I stand by that.
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Anyway, we all have our preferences.
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This show is about finding love.
It's not about finding a wife.
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It's not about rushing
into something
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-with like...
-[sighing deeply]
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skip, skipping, you know, steps like...
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you know, three through 20
to get to the end goal.
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[Iyanna] That's the point
of the show.
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[Jarrette] That's not
what the show's about.
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[Shake] Okay, maybe that was the point
of the show,
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but like, that's not the takeaway I had.
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It's a reasonable takeaway,
if I may say so.
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[Danielle] You read the description?
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Sorry, it's not clout...
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He thinks he'll look better.
Let him speak.
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[Shake] You don't know what it is
until you're there.
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I'm thankful for it.
It didn't end in marriage--
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[Jarrette] The premise is
if the connection is strong enough,
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to marry the person
that you have that connection with.
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I'm not gonna be put in a box
where I have to do that.
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[Vanessa] Let's move on.
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Shayne, you talked
with Natalie one way.
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You talked to Shaina one way.
And there's another moment
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that, in the pods, everybody saw.
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It's when Shayne thought you were
about to propose to Natalie.
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By surprise, you had a different visitor
with a shocking revelation.
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So let's all take a look.
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I just wanted you to know
that I do have deep feelings for you.
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I do envision a life with you together.
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And I do, honestly,
I really do care for you a lot.
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Yeah.
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It's like, we wasted so much fucking time
the last two days not even talking.
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I wished you would have said that, like...
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-No, I know.
-...days earlier.
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-I felt the same way.
-I took a backseat. I regret it.
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My pride definitely got in the way.
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Shaina! Argh!
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Argh!
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[Shayne, whispering] God. Fuck.
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I know. I'm really sorry.
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[exhales sharply]
Fuck.
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Fuck. I don't even know
what to think right now. God.
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-[Nick L.] So... Natalie.
-[Shayne groans]
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[Nick L.] 'Cause we're here.
Kinda get to the heart of the matter.
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-I have to ask you.
-You're doing great.
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[Nick L.] How did it feel watching that
on TV for the first time?
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I definitely felt...
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um, like, betrayed by both Shayne
and Shaina, quite honestly.
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The fact Shayne said if you'd told me
two days earlier, it could have been,
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you know, potentially different.
That's not something...
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It's not something he was telling me.
I felt like...
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by the last set of days
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like, he assured me it was
just going to be me. It was only me.
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So seeing that
there could have been a change
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if he explored another connection
was really hard.
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But I think with you, Shaina,
what you had told me was,
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you walked in saying you were supportive
of our relationship.
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And you used to like him,
and that was it.
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So, I just think seeing that,
and feeling like you were dishonest,
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-was really tough.
-I'm sorry for that. I am.
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When you saw it for the first time,
were you surprised at how torn he was
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-between the two of you?
-Yeah.
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It was something
I truly was not aware of.
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[Shayne] This was one
of the biggest days of my life
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going into it.
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And I literally thought I was going
to come into a room,
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proposing to my girl.
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And someone else came into that room.
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You literally get punched
right in the face.
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-[Vanessa] Yeah.
-Okay?
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I literally blacked out when it happened.
Everything that went down, okay?
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I've been crucified for this situation.
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I could have handled it
definitely different.
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But no one knows
what it feels like going in there.
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My whole mindset was focusing
on proposing to Natalie the whole time.
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Then, I hear Shaina's voice.
And we haven't talked for days.
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I'm like...
I'm not mad about the situation
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but it was my day with Natalie.
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I was upset about the fact that it got--
it fucked with my mind a little bit.
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That's what it was about.
I obviously was very dramatic.
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That's just who I am. But like...
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I just wish-- Like, that's what it was.
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[Vanessa] No, you make a very good point.
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I actually never thought
about your side of it, until just now.
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[Kyle] Can we talk about the fact that
why was that meeting even a thing?
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-Why did that happen?
-[Vanessa] I wish I knew.
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-I would tell you.
-We're totally--
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-[Vanessa] Speaking of Kyle...
-[Kyle] We're totally looking to--
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Since you want to be
in the conversation,
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-there was one more person involved...
-There was a moment--
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...in all of this. We're going to take
a look back at Kyle and Shaina's proposal.
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You're holding my mother's
engagement ring.
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You remind me so much of my mother.
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She was very, very religious,
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and she makes me the happiest.
I want someone who resembles her.
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So... Shaina.
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Will you marry me?
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Yes.
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Oh, my God.
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I'm kind of in shock right now.
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-[Nick L.] So Kyle.
-[Kyle] Yeah.
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I know you're ready to speak.
I'm just curious, what was your reaction
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to Shaina's face when you finally saw
that video?
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What did you think was happening
on the other side of that wall
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when you were actually making
your proposal?
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I felt like she could have said no.
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I didn't sense the hesitation
in the moment.
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But looking back,
she seemed very hesitant.
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And then obviously, seeing the meeting
with Shayne, that blew my mind.
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I didn't see that one coming.
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When did you first find out
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that she'd actually had that meeting
with Shayne,
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-after your proposal?
-When I saw it.
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[Shake] You didn't know about it
from months ago when we talked?
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-But either way--
-You got to do it.
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I didn't understand the point
of the meeting.
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-Okay.
-So I thought it was, like...
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I thought you just needed
some loose ends tied up.
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But I didn't think
that it was literally asking him,
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like, this is your last chance.
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-No, not at all. That wasn't my intention.
-You leveraged, you used me as a backup.
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-[Shaina] No, I didn't.
-And you were seeing if he would flip
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last second and ask you to marry him
instead of Natalie.
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Are you speaking for me?
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Are you telling me how I felt?
I'm so confused.
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-No, I--
-I told you what happened.
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-So the fact you're playing this face--
-Why did you want the meeting?
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-What?
-Why did you want the meeting with Shayne?
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Honestly, looking back on it,
I should have said no right away to you.
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-Right.
-100%.
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-But I did feel very--
-No one put a gun
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to your head to do anything.
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No, 100%.
I actually do take full ownership.
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-I could have avoided a bunch of drama.
-Yeah.
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[Shaina] 100%. And I'm owning that.
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Um... I...
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'Cause I would never think
to do that to you. I mean...
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I would never think,
"Oh, I just got engaged.
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But let me give one more try
to somebody else."
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I wasn't giving a try.
It was part of my process.
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Again, this was an experiment.
I didn't know what I was feeling.
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I do... It was part of...
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-I couldn't move forward...
-The odds were better--
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...unless I was honest with Shayne.
Which again, I apologize to Natalie.
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I'm so sorry that I downplayed
the situation to you.
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I wish I would've been
more forthright. Again.
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Being more forthright,
I own that. 100%.
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Um... When I said yes,
I think I just felt...
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very confused in the pod, okay?
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I...
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felt a little manipulated by you bringing
out your mother's engagement ring.
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How special you should have felt.
I would be so honored.
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-That means--
-That's why I couldn't go through with it
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though 'cause I can't wear
your mother's engagement ring.
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Like, I don't know.
I just felt--
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-That's ridiculous.
-I own it though.
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It's like I'm not going
to play victim in this situation.
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I could've avoided a lot by just saying
no. I definitely should've said no.
286
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I was very confused.
And again, I did have feelings for you.
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It wasn't like I did not care about you.
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And I'm really sorry that it was led on
more than it should have been.
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-I'm sorry.
-[Shake] Can we just say...
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-off the record that...
-Oh, my God.
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...the drive to continue on the show
was a driving factor, I think?
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-[Kyle] For you.
-Not for me at all.
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-Oh, my God.
-For Shaina and Kyle maybe?
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-Sometimes it's okay--
-No, if someone said,
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-if you said no--
-Why does he have to--
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-[Nick L.] There's no "off the record."
-Off the record of what?
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If it had been about appearance,
it would have looked way more better
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-on my side if I'd said no right away.
-[Kyle] Totally.
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If you had just said no, it would have
saved so much trouble.
300
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[Shaina] Yeah, 100%.
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-[Vanessa] Shayne, you seem horrified.
-You all right, man?
302
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I just can't believe the words
that are coming out of his mouth.
303
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-Someone--
-I keeps it real.
304
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No, that's not real, man.
That's just bad. It's just so bad, man.
305
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-You gotta stop--
-I'ma tell all.
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I'm gonna say what everyone's thinking
at home.
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-No one is thinking that.
-No, no, no.
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-I'd have done myself a big favor--
-It would have been better--
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Do not put me in your words at all.
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-Ever.
-All right, you stay out of this.
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-[Shayne] Okay?
-I unfollowed you
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'cause you're so unbearable.
313
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You think everybody thinks
the same way as you.
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And that's the problem.
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-No one thinks the way you think.
-No one.
316
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[Shake] I wouldn't go that far.
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-[Nick T.] And it hurts people.
-I think there's a happy medium.
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-You hurt people.
-No, maybe like 1%.
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I have, if I may, I'll say one statement.
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-And hopefully I'll shut up after that.
-[Danielle] Please don't.
321
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[Shake] Wouldn't you like that?
I think we'd all like that.
322
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I think we'd all like it if I'd shut up
after this statement, right?
323
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I think we'd like it
if you shut up in general.
324
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[Danielle] Now. Please just stop now.
325
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Listen, I'll be honest with you guys.
This has been an incredible experience.
326
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But I've had a very tough time
taking it seriously.
327
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[Salvador] That's not our experience
in this experiment.
328
00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:22,171
It's still an experiment,
but we all had our own experience.
329
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You can't speak for everybody.
330
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I was hoping to, just for a moment,
say mine, and then...
331
00:15:27,718 --> 00:15:29,553
I know, man, but you're interrupting
a lot of people
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and hurting a lot of people
right now
333
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when you're not even involved...
334
00:15:32,848 --> 00:15:34,892
[Nick L.] There is no right
or wrong way to find love.
335
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There's zero right or wrong way.
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If they found it, and they're happy
for the rest of their lives...
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[Shake] Absolutely.
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[Vanessa] So, we'll take a beat.
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I want to know if it's safe to say
for the moment we have moved on
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from that "quadfecta," I guess.
Is that what I can call it?
341
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-It was a triangle, quadfecta.
-[Iyanna] A square.
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But y'all good? Because I'm about
to bring up another love triangle.
343
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-God, here we go.
-[Vanessa] Hey, girl.
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-Hi.
-[Vanessa] I'm loving this hair, Iyanna.
345
00:16:01,043 --> 00:16:02,920
-Thank you.
-You look beautiful.
346
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You were already beautiful on the inside.
Then we saw your beauty on the outside.
347
00:16:07,299 --> 00:16:08,175
Thank you.
348
00:16:08,258 --> 00:16:10,302
So, you saw a lot of things
for the first time too.
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00:16:10,386 --> 00:16:13,263
What was it like for you
to watch him and Mallory,
350
00:16:13,347 --> 00:16:16,934
and watch that,
"I was going to proposal" episode
351
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-when you saw it in real time?
-I won't say hurtful.
352
00:16:20,145 --> 00:16:24,149
Just because I kind of...
I knew something like that could happen.
353
00:16:24,233 --> 00:16:29,029
But just extremely awkward.
Almost re-traumatizing. But...
354
00:16:29,113 --> 00:16:31,573
-Did you guys watch it together?
-No. I know I couldn't.
355
00:16:31,657 --> 00:16:32,950
-No?
-I know I couldn't.
356
00:16:33,033 --> 00:16:35,828
At the end of the day,
throughout this experiment,
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00:16:35,911 --> 00:16:39,790
we're put in this box,
and we're being open and being vulnerable.
358
00:16:39,873 --> 00:16:43,419
We all know you could potentially
make connections, and strong connections,
359
00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:46,005
with multiple people.
I still came to Iyanna.
360
00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:49,299
I was open and honest with her.
I let her know and tried to reassure her
361
00:16:49,383 --> 00:16:52,970
that even though I did this,
there would never ever be a chance
362
00:16:53,053 --> 00:16:55,097
where you feel like you're runner-up
or second place to nobody.
363
00:16:55,180 --> 00:16:57,391
[Vanessa] I mean, look.
Nick? I'm his second wife.
364
00:16:57,474 --> 00:16:59,101
So his journey led him to me.
365
00:16:59,184 --> 00:17:00,853
And he's my person.
366
00:17:00,936 --> 00:17:02,062
That was our journey.
367
00:17:02,146 --> 00:17:04,898
I never thought I would be
someone's second wife.
368
00:17:04,982 --> 00:17:06,316
-Know what I mean?
-Yeah.
369
00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,278
I found this guy.
This is how it was supposed to be.
370
00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:11,822
This is how our love story
was supposed to pan out.
371
00:17:11,905 --> 00:17:13,699
Then we add the physical layer.
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00:17:13,782 --> 00:17:15,784
Then you get to see people.
You're like, "Oh, my gosh."
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00:17:15,868 --> 00:17:19,413
And so, there was a moment
when Jarrette and Mallory
374
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finally had a chance
to meet in person.
375
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And it turns out
that all that glitters wasn't gold.
376
00:17:25,502 --> 00:17:26,920
Let's watch.
377
00:17:27,004 --> 00:17:31,675
-I'm such a guy's girl.
-Hence why the fuck we connected.
378
00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:36,513
But most men, though, into sports
and things like that,
379
00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:39,349
or that connect me in that aspect,
380
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,769
they don't put me in priority.
381
00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:47,232
They don't know how to fucking be like,
"Hey, you're a bad bitch.
382
00:17:47,316 --> 00:17:51,236
Let me... like, you're beautiful,
let me do things for you.
383
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,280
Let me, like, you're gorgeous."
384
00:17:53,363 --> 00:17:55,491
-I don't even need that.
-I knew that.
385
00:17:55,574 --> 00:17:57,493
[Mallory] But once in a fucking while.
386
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I would've did that.
387
00:17:59,578 --> 00:18:01,080
You're amazing.
388
00:18:05,626 --> 00:18:06,835
Listen, JerBear.
389
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:08,962
Mal Mal.
390
00:18:11,465 --> 00:18:13,092
That's a nice ring.
391
00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:15,135
That's not the ring you wanted.
392
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I know.
393
00:18:16,845 --> 00:18:18,639
You wanted gold.
394
00:18:18,722 --> 00:18:19,848
You wanted gold.
395
00:18:20,557 --> 00:18:21,850
You're so funny.
396
00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:23,352
You don't like that ring.
397
00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:25,145
I know you don't.
398
00:18:25,229 --> 00:18:27,064
You like gold rings, don't you?
399
00:18:27,815 --> 00:18:29,108
I do. [laughs]
400
00:18:30,818 --> 00:18:33,403
Know how I know? Because I asked you.
401
00:18:36,406 --> 00:18:38,283
[Vanessa] Okay. Well, now,
I feel like the ass.
402
00:18:38,367 --> 00:18:40,536
Because I asked you
if you watched it with him.
403
00:18:40,619 --> 00:18:42,538
You said no.
And here we are, putting it on blast
404
00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:43,789
with y'all together.
405
00:18:43,872 --> 00:18:47,000
What was that like for you-- that part--
when you watched it for the first time?
406
00:18:47,584 --> 00:18:50,379
'Cause you were also there,
and then you heard, after the fact,
407
00:18:50,462 --> 00:18:51,588
everything that was said.
408
00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:53,799
So, that part was actually hurtful.
409
00:18:53,882 --> 00:18:57,219
Everything pre-proposal,
it's like I completely understand.
410
00:18:57,302 --> 00:19:01,515
Everything after...
was extremely hurtful for me to watch.
411
00:19:01,598 --> 00:19:04,059
[Nick L.] Have you and Mallory
had a chance to...
412
00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:05,936
-discuss that?
-[Iyanna] We've spoken.
413
00:19:06,019 --> 00:19:09,982
But if I'm honest, like,
none of my anger went toward Mal.
414
00:19:10,065 --> 00:19:12,985
It all went toward Jarrette
because he's my partner.
415
00:19:13,068 --> 00:19:16,572
He's the one who owes me loyalty.
Mal doesn't owe me anything.
416
00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:18,157
I was pretty upset.
417
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,284
-You guys talked about it?
-Yeah.
418
00:19:20,367 --> 00:19:23,537
It was definitely
a very inappropriate conversation.
419
00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:26,415
I think, at that point,
I had chosen Iyanna.
420
00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:29,001
And I was very safe in my choice.
421
00:19:29,084 --> 00:19:31,128
And having that conversation
should have never happened,
422
00:19:31,211 --> 00:19:33,130
or I could have tailored it
a different way.
423
00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:36,300
And I want definitely to apologize to you
for making it look like,
424
00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:39,678
making you look crazy.
I never want to do that ever again.
425
00:19:39,761 --> 00:19:42,055
And that conversation
should have never happened.
426
00:19:42,139 --> 00:19:43,432
Thank you.
427
00:19:43,515 --> 00:19:45,017
[Nick L.] I know
it's uncomfortable to watch.
428
00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,269
It's uncomfortable for me to watch,
sitting next to you guys.
429
00:19:47,352 --> 00:19:49,897
I can only imagine how uncomfortable it is
for the two of you.
430
00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:53,692
That was like chapter two in a book
that you guys are still writing
431
00:19:53,775 --> 00:19:56,695
and will write for the rest of your lives.
But I do have to ask Sal,
432
00:19:56,778 --> 00:20:00,324
because you were the fourth counterpart
of that equation.
433
00:20:00,407 --> 00:20:03,452
How did watching that,
how did that make you feel?
434
00:20:03,535 --> 00:20:05,412
[Salvador] It was really uncomfortable.
435
00:20:05,495 --> 00:20:07,539
Guys, that was disrespectful of y'all.
436
00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:11,627
Either one of you could have
stopped that conversation immediately.
437
00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,839
-But I...
-And Jarrette, I appreciate-- hold on.
438
00:20:15,923 --> 00:20:18,175
I appreciate you saying
those things too, man.
439
00:20:18,258 --> 00:20:20,385
But you told me
it was a fucking joke, bro.
440
00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:21,720
It 100% was a joke.
441
00:20:21,803 --> 00:20:23,347
-Then why--
-It was an inappropriate joke.
442
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:26,266
It was an inappropriate joke, for sure.
But it was a joke.
443
00:20:26,350 --> 00:20:28,727
Cool, man. It would have been nice
to know that though.
444
00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:30,979
I'll apologize to you. I'll be a man.
445
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:35,359
Because I had no reason to downplay
the situation or anything like that.
446
00:20:35,442 --> 00:20:40,030
But it was a joke, taken out of context.
A bad joke. I apologize.
447
00:20:40,113 --> 00:20:42,199
The ring that you got her
was still a beautiful ring.
448
00:20:42,282 --> 00:20:45,452
You know, but I should have never
even inserted that comment
449
00:20:45,535 --> 00:20:46,745
into that conversation.
450
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,164
I appreciate that, man.
451
00:20:49,248 --> 00:20:52,709
For the sake of this,
and for the sake of your guys' marriage,
452
00:20:52,793 --> 00:20:55,545
I forgive you, dude.
Easy, quick. Yeah.
453
00:20:55,629 --> 00:20:57,464
-You wanted to say something, Mal?
-Just tell me.
454
00:20:57,547 --> 00:21:01,843
That was a very, very hard situation
455
00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:03,845
to be in, and conversation.
456
00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:05,931
It was the first time seeing everybody.
457
00:21:06,431 --> 00:21:08,767
And literally, coming from the pods,
458
00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:13,063
after that emotional-ass,
like, interaction,
459
00:21:13,146 --> 00:21:17,484
and then not even having any chance
to like... to talk,
460
00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:20,237
to just be like,
"Hey, how are you feeling?"
461
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,907
So going into that,
I was extremely nervous and anxious.
462
00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:28,370
Because I knew that this was going to be
a conversation that had to happen.
463
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:31,707
I definitely apologize to Iyanna,
464
00:21:31,790 --> 00:21:35,168
because that conversation went on longer
than it should have.
465
00:21:35,252 --> 00:21:38,255
Unfortunately, I took a couple shots
before that because I was nervous as shit.
466
00:21:38,338 --> 00:21:44,094
I still think it was inappropriate to have
that when we were on our honeymoon.
467
00:21:44,177 --> 00:21:47,264
What kind of investment is that
in our relationship?
468
00:21:48,265 --> 00:21:51,893
I was fully invested in my choice
and my decision.
469
00:21:51,977 --> 00:21:57,441
I just felt like after the emotional
conversation we had,
470
00:21:57,524 --> 00:21:59,026
we never really got to talk.
471
00:21:59,109 --> 00:22:01,320
It was a very inappropriate conversation
472
00:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,947
that could have been tailored
a different way. I own that.
473
00:22:04,031 --> 00:22:06,325
-[Nick L.] Well said.
-I don't want to stir any pots
474
00:22:06,408 --> 00:22:08,702
or anything, and Mallory, I know that...
475
00:22:08,785 --> 00:22:10,495
we gave it an honest shot.
476
00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:11,413
I know.
477
00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,833
[Nick L.] Safe to say
that a lot happened in Mexico.
478
00:22:14,916 --> 00:22:18,420
But eventually, finally,
our six engaged couples left the getaways
479
00:22:18,503 --> 00:22:19,713
and headed back for home.
480
00:22:19,796 --> 00:22:22,132
For some, their bond only grew closer.
481
00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:24,051
But for others,
the impact of the real world
482
00:22:24,134 --> 00:22:25,552
had them crashing harder
483
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:27,054
than Sal trying to carry Mal
into the ocean.
484
00:22:27,137 --> 00:22:28,513
[chuckling]
485
00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,474
-My swim shoes, guys!
-[Nick L.] We can laugh about it now.
486
00:22:30,557 --> 00:22:32,934
-My swim shoes!
-We can laugh about it now.
487
00:22:33,685 --> 00:22:37,064
Let's go and check in with one
of our couples who made it to the altar,
488
00:22:37,147 --> 00:22:41,318
with two "I do's",
Nick and Danielle! Congrats, guys.
489
00:22:41,401 --> 00:22:42,569
[cheering]
490
00:22:42,652 --> 00:22:45,280
[Vanessa] I don't think we need to ask
if you're still married,
491
00:22:45,363 --> 00:22:47,699
because you guys are already coordinating.
492
00:22:48,241 --> 00:22:51,536
I mean, we didn't even plan this
with Jarrette and Iyanna.
493
00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:53,830
-No way!
-The J's, you know what I'm saying?
494
00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:55,791
[Deepti] I want to join
the throuple over here.
495
00:22:55,874 --> 00:22:56,958
[Vanessa] I love it.
496
00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:58,835
-Still blissful?
-[Danielle & Nick T.] Yeah.
497
00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:01,254
It's... It's been a--
It's like crazy
498
00:23:01,338 --> 00:23:05,592
because I think that
the pressure of saying "I do",
499
00:23:05,675 --> 00:23:10,013
or "I don't" had us
in this, like, pressure cooker.
500
00:23:10,097 --> 00:23:13,100
Where we were constantly getting
in these disagreements
501
00:23:13,183 --> 00:23:16,686
where we were really just trying to
figure out whether or not it would work.
502
00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:19,481
And then, once we actually got
into the real life,
503
00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:24,569
a lot of the disagreements that we had
ended up being nonexistent.
504
00:23:24,653 --> 00:23:27,781
I feel what the show did
in the experiment, if you will,
505
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:30,992
was give you the building blocks to...
You had a disagreement,
506
00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:35,330
then, for the sake of continuing on
with the experiment, you had to come back.
507
00:23:35,413 --> 00:23:37,499
-You had to solve that disagreement.
-Yeah.
508
00:23:37,582 --> 00:23:39,751
I don't think disagreements ever,
at least, in my experience,
509
00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:41,002
-they never stop.
-Why are you pointing at me?
510
00:23:41,086 --> 00:23:43,880
Well, because we disagree.
I think it's actually a healthy thing.
511
00:23:43,964 --> 00:23:47,384
I think if you don't ever disagree,
then one of two of you is compromising
512
00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:49,469
in a way
that eventually is going to boil over.
513
00:23:49,553 --> 00:23:51,471
[Vanessa] Neither of us is giving in.
514
00:23:51,555 --> 00:23:55,684
As long as it's worth the argument,
I think arguments can be a positive thing.
515
00:23:55,767 --> 00:23:58,770
You know, one of the things
that we've learned,
516
00:23:58,854 --> 00:24:00,689
and it's really helped us
with our communication,
517
00:24:00,772 --> 00:24:03,275
is to listen more, and talk less.
518
00:24:03,358 --> 00:24:08,488
I know one of my faults is, I'm a fixer.
So when there's a problem, I'm like,
519
00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:10,157
"Okay." I go into fix mode.
520
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,326
This is something we learned
in couples therapy together,
521
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:15,745
I go into fix mode, I want to fix it.
522
00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:19,207
She just wants me to understand
she's feeling this way. Not fix it.
523
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:23,253
So, I'm constantly trying to remind
myself, "Nick, you don't have to fix this.
524
00:24:23,336 --> 00:24:24,838
You just have to listen."
525
00:24:24,921 --> 00:24:27,257
[Vanessa] So did you, Danielle,
move in with Nick?
526
00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:28,466
-Yeah.
-In his place?
527
00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:30,886
-Yeah.
-Is all the furniture intact?
528
00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:34,139
-[laughter]
-Okay, so... No, no!
529
00:24:35,182 --> 00:24:36,516
[Danielle] What I have to say is,
530
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,562
he must have a lot sturdier furniture
than I do. No, I'm not kidding.
531
00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:43,106
Don't go there.
532
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,150
I'm the sex addict of the show,
I get it.
533
00:24:45,233 --> 00:24:47,861
That has actually also happened, sorry.
534
00:24:47,944 --> 00:24:49,779
It's the only way to test it.
535
00:24:49,863 --> 00:24:52,949
No, but we have dance parties,
and I'm not kidding,
536
00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:54,659
he gets on the table before I do.
537
00:24:54,743 --> 00:24:58,246
To be clear, the island in the center
is granite.
538
00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:02,083
-So it's a little bit stronger.
-He dances on more tables than I do.
539
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:05,337
You were a little critical of that
going through the show...
540
00:25:05,420 --> 00:25:09,049
I don't mind dancing on tables.
I don't want broken tables.
541
00:25:09,132 --> 00:25:12,594
I buy very cheap furniture. That's my bad.
542
00:25:12,677 --> 00:25:16,097
Let's look at a home video
from the new Thompson household.
543
00:25:17,015 --> 00:25:20,227
[Danielle] Hi! Hello!
544
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:22,604
[Nick T.] Hi! Hello!
545
00:25:22,687 --> 00:25:26,399
-I haven't seen you...
-[Danielle] Oh, good, good.
546
00:25:26,483 --> 00:25:28,568
[Danielle] Okay, so we're going
to show you around.
547
00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:33,156
-We have Wiz. Hello!
-[Nick T.] Ready for the spotlight.
548
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,951
[Danielle] Oh, now she's ready.
Hello, Wizzy.
549
00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:37,702
-[barks]
-[Danielle chuckles]
550
00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:41,081
[Danielle]
So they're not best friends yet.
551
00:25:41,164 --> 00:25:42,749
But I really do think
they're getting there.
552
00:25:42,832 --> 00:25:46,670
[Nick T.] Rock Band. I'm not any better
at it. No hand-eye coordination.
553
00:25:46,753 --> 00:25:49,506
[Danielle] No, but it's good for me
'cause it makes me feel confident
554
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:50,674
I can always win.
555
00:25:50,757 --> 00:25:53,718
We still haven't figured out
where to put all my clothes.
556
00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:56,221
They're all kind of scattered in there,
unfortunately.
557
00:25:56,304 --> 00:25:58,306
-But...
-[Nick T.] We're making progress.
558
00:25:58,390 --> 00:26:02,227
[Danielle] We are making progress.
I have a rack here.
559
00:26:03,353 --> 00:26:04,813
Costumes here, at least.
560
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:09,651
And it turns out, he likes costumes
just as much as I do.
561
00:26:10,485 --> 00:26:11,653
Would you take a look at that?
562
00:26:12,112 --> 00:26:14,114
Uh-huh.
Would you take a look at that?
563
00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:16,574
[Nick T.] ...I sweat more than I did
during our wedding.
564
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:19,494
[Danielle] Here's our little table
where we like to collect memories.
565
00:26:22,914 --> 00:26:24,291
It's very cute.
566
00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:27,210
[Nick T.] Combination
of Christmas presents, trip memorabilia.
567
00:26:27,294 --> 00:26:29,254
[Danielle] Some shots from Mexico.
568
00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:32,090
[Nick T.] And then... that.
569
00:26:32,173 --> 00:26:34,009
[Danielle] So over Christmas,
570
00:26:34,092 --> 00:26:38,596
his uncle surprised me
with his great-grandma's wedding ring.
571
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,724
It felt like I was proposed to
all over again.
572
00:26:40,807 --> 00:26:42,267
-By you!
-[both laugh]
573
00:26:42,976 --> 00:26:45,437
-That's so cute.
-That's so pretty.
574
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,563
[Nick L.] That's awesome.
575
00:26:46,646 --> 00:26:49,691
Well, guys, we are so, so happy
that you guys are doing so well.
576
00:26:49,774 --> 00:26:53,778
Congrats again on being almost a year
into a beautiful marriage. Congrats, guys.
577
00:26:53,862 --> 00:26:54,696
[Nick T.] Thank you.
578
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,574
Everyone's going through this.
579
00:26:57,657 --> 00:26:58,658
Yeah.
580
00:26:58,742 --> 00:27:03,330
Now, guys, I want to move on to a couple
who gave us some great music.
581
00:27:03,413 --> 00:27:05,874
But in the end, decided to part ways.
582
00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:09,502
And Sal, I got to say,
musician to musician,
583
00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:13,173
there was some truly great music
that I saw throughout the show.
584
00:27:13,256 --> 00:27:15,675
Let's give it up for Mallory and Salvador.
585
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:16,634
Woo-hoo!
586
00:27:18,553 --> 00:27:23,641
So you two said no at the altar.
But it looked like at the end,
587
00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:27,645
when you came out,
there was some chat about potentially
588
00:27:27,729 --> 00:27:30,857
seeing each other,
and seeing if there was something there,
589
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:34,277
and seeing if you guys would continue
this relationship.
590
00:27:34,361 --> 00:27:35,737
Did that happen?
591
00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:38,323
Yeah. We met for coffee, and we chatted.
592
00:27:38,406 --> 00:27:41,117
But I think, at the end of the day, we...
593
00:27:41,201 --> 00:27:44,037
I don't know,
the connection just wasn't really...
594
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,790
there, and we just kind of understood
that we were...
595
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:51,461
maybe it didn't make sense
to really continue on.
596
00:27:51,544 --> 00:27:53,588
-Yeah.
-Yeah. I feel like...
597
00:27:53,671 --> 00:27:56,674
of all the couples this season,
for whatever reason,
598
00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:59,260
you two were the hardest for me
to figure out.
599
00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,638
It always seemed like there was
a little bit more going on, you know,
600
00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:05,100
behind the scenes than I was able
to kinda wrap my head around.
601
00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:11,564
There were just things
that happened like...
602
00:28:13,024 --> 00:28:16,694
that I just don't really feel comfortable
saying, 'cause it's pointless now.
603
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:19,572
Like, it's our history.
You know? Like, I just...
604
00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:23,326
Call it karma, call it whatever,
605
00:28:23,410 --> 00:28:26,371
but it's just like, I don't,
I just don't think it's necessary to say.
606
00:28:26,454 --> 00:28:29,124
-Good man.
-[Mallory] I honestly think...
607
00:28:29,707 --> 00:28:33,461
we shared a very strong connection
really because of this experiment,
608
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:36,047
but we're very different, like...
609
00:28:37,132 --> 00:28:38,967
I think in the way that we...
610
00:28:39,050 --> 00:28:42,470
really communicated, or operated,
611
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:43,638
a lot of times...
612
00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:48,977
disagreements because we weren't
communicating necessarily the right way.
613
00:28:51,229 --> 00:28:54,858
And... that's kind of really, yeah--
614
00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:57,569
Can I just say, Mal?
And I'll put it this way.
615
00:28:57,652 --> 00:29:00,905
There were many times
that I also just felt unheard.
616
00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:06,786
In our arguments,
and I'll keep that to ourselves.
617
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:08,955
But our arguments, I felt unheard.
618
00:29:10,915 --> 00:29:13,668
I'm really sorry
if I made you feel that way.
619
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,587
-That was never--
-And I forgive you.
620
00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:17,672
Because again, it's in the past.
621
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:19,048
It's okay.
622
00:29:19,132 --> 00:29:20,383
May I? Two things.
623
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:23,344
Number one, your situation with Jarrette.
624
00:29:23,428 --> 00:29:26,055
That whole situation,
and the aftermath of that,
625
00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:27,849
I think that was an uncomfortable thing.
626
00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:32,228
Number two, your ex-girlfriend.
I think, in your shoes,
627
00:29:32,312 --> 00:29:34,439
that's going to sour a relationship.
628
00:29:34,522 --> 00:29:37,776
Once you shatter the vase,
you can't put it back together.
629
00:29:37,859 --> 00:29:40,195
[Natalie] Shake, who are you
to provide that reason?
630
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:42,489
-You don't have insight--
-I'm saying my opinion.
631
00:29:42,572 --> 00:29:45,450
-It wasn't my girlfriend, either.
-Whatever it was, it was soured.
632
00:29:45,533 --> 00:29:47,160
Whether it was on purpose or not.
633
00:29:47,243 --> 00:29:50,747
Shake, he just said he does not want
to air out dirty laundry.
634
00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:53,333
Why do you feel the need
to come in and say that?
635
00:29:53,416 --> 00:29:55,418
'Cause we're at a reunion
where we're supposed to--
636
00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:57,378
-[Natalie] No.
-We're not supposed to do anything.
637
00:29:57,462 --> 00:29:59,339
[Natalie] The point of this is not to--
638
00:29:59,422 --> 00:30:00,924
It's for us to tell our stories
639
00:30:01,007 --> 00:30:03,760
and what we thought watching the show,
not for you to--
640
00:30:03,843 --> 00:30:06,221
I'm completely wrong. It had nothing to do
with those two things, then.
641
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:07,847
[Jarrette] You're just trying
to break people down.
642
00:30:07,931 --> 00:30:09,307
I'm not trying to break people down.
643
00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:12,894
I'm trying to put it out in the open.
Because what I've seen--
644
00:30:12,977 --> 00:30:13,978
Shut up, Shayne.
645
00:30:14,062 --> 00:30:17,857
What I've seen is a bunch of people
that were so real in the beginning
646
00:30:17,941 --> 00:30:20,401
turn fake as fuck
as we've gone through this.
647
00:30:20,485 --> 00:30:22,320
-You've been the fakest--
-Are you kidding?
648
00:30:22,403 --> 00:30:24,656
-I'm the realest, Jarrette.
-Don't start that.
649
00:30:24,739 --> 00:30:26,533
I say the facts. I keep it 100, bro.
650
00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:29,202
-You're the fakest--
-I've always kept it completely 100.
651
00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:31,037
Come on, dawg. Don't do that.
652
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,665
-Yeah. We can. We can do that.
-Because you're not.
653
00:30:33,748 --> 00:30:36,334
[Jarrette] You're not. You came on here
for all the wrong reasons.
654
00:30:36,417 --> 00:30:38,545
And you know that. Everybody
can see through how shallow you are.
655
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:41,506
-[scoffs] You think so?
-Yeah. I know so.
656
00:30:41,589 --> 00:30:42,632
Absolutely.
657
00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:46,469
Bro, we all have our preferences.
I won't apologize for that.
658
00:30:46,553 --> 00:30:50,390
Okay? I will be honest
about what those things are.
659
00:30:50,473 --> 00:30:52,517
-Joke.
-Let's get back on track.
660
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,060
-Shall we? Can we?
-A joke.
661
00:30:54,143 --> 00:30:58,231
Since we're in the business of Shake now,
let's move on to our next couple.
662
00:30:58,314 --> 00:30:59,482
-Okay.
-Shall we?
663
00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:01,150
The whole point of Love is Blind
664
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:04,612
is to fall in love with someone
based on who they are on the inside.
665
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:10,285
A task not everyone seemed to understand,
and yes, I am looking at you, Shake.
666
00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:12,453
-[Shake] Yeah.
-Let's take a look back.
667
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:15,665
[Shake] I love buying clothes for girls.
668
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:17,208
What's your size?
669
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:19,085
[laughing] What the fuck?
670
00:31:19,961 --> 00:31:21,379
Do you like working out?
671
00:31:21,462 --> 00:31:23,631
-Not a huge fan.
-Really?
672
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:24,674
Yep.
673
00:31:24,757 --> 00:31:28,136
I get along best with individuals
that do work out.
674
00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:34,350
If we were to be at a music festival,
do you like being on a guy's shoulders?
675
00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:37,061
Yeah. You're up for the challenge?
You can pick me up?
676
00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,315
Yeah, but will I have trouble
picking you up?
677
00:31:41,983 --> 00:31:45,945
So she's the number-one hype girl,
and so fucking fun.
678
00:31:46,029 --> 00:31:47,572
I'm not physically attracted to her.
679
00:31:47,655 --> 00:31:50,533
It feels like I'm with my aunt
or something.
680
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:52,285
Don't laugh at that.
681
00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:57,999
I feel like
I'm with a family member sometimes.
682
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,962
So Shake, right out of the gate
I think the question that I have to ask,
683
00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:07,216
and probably a lot of people are wondering
is why did you do Love is Blind?
684
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:09,469
I'll put it to you like this. Listen...
685
00:32:09,552 --> 00:32:11,888
I know I'm not the most liked person
on this show.
686
00:32:11,971 --> 00:32:14,307
But I'm going to keep it real with myself.
687
00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:17,060
-This is my chance to talk, so if I may.
-[Nick L.] Please do.
688
00:32:17,143 --> 00:32:23,483
It's not that different
than making a huge purchase.
689
00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:27,236
-Maybe by-- if I may?
-No, you may. I had to giggle.
690
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,697
Because it's marriage
and a purchase. Okay.
691
00:32:29,781 --> 00:32:33,201
Marriage, think of it as the ultimate
purchase, then, if you will.
692
00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:37,205
The ultimate commitment, if you will.
693
00:32:37,288 --> 00:32:39,958
Before you make this type of commitment,
694
00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:43,127
I feel like you have
to read the fine print on that.
695
00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:47,423
So, when we're in a situation
where the stakes are so big...
696
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,718
I want to make sure this thing works.
697
00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:54,305
I wanted more than anything
for this to work.
698
00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:59,602
And for me, that meant I knew
at least a certain physical body type,
699
00:32:59,686 --> 00:33:01,229
to get me in the ballpark.
700
00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:05,149
I'm not talking about she has to be 5'2".
This, this, this, this.
701
00:33:05,233 --> 00:33:07,610
I'm talking about
I want this shit to work.
702
00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:09,529
If I were to marry somebody,
703
00:33:09,612 --> 00:33:13,992
and, and, you know,
there was a big weight discrepancy,
704
00:33:14,492 --> 00:33:16,995
it would be very hard
for me to get past that.
705
00:33:17,078 --> 00:33:20,456
When I'm in a situation like that,
I want to get past that.
706
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:22,125
I was ready to get deep.
707
00:33:22,208 --> 00:33:25,586
I wanted to know
if we're going to do this,
708
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:29,716
I'm going to make sure I do everything
in my power to ask my questions.
709
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:32,927
I want this shit to work.
Nobody wanted it as bad as me.
710
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:34,846
Despite what you may think.
711
00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:37,890
I think you were on, if I may,
the wrong show.
712
00:33:37,974 --> 00:33:39,434
And what I mean by that is,
713
00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:41,728
there are shows
where they are based on their looks.
714
00:33:41,811 --> 00:33:43,062
And if they have a connection.
715
00:33:43,146 --> 00:33:46,858
But what I'm saying is you need
to open your heart to a bigger picture.
716
00:33:46,941 --> 00:33:47,859
Because at the end of the day,
717
00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:50,319
what if she's mangled in an accident?
What if she gains weight?
718
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:53,156
What if she loses her hair, legs, and her
arms? Are you not gonna love her anymore?
719
00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:56,075
-That's different.
-I hope to God if I'm mangled,
720
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:58,536
knock on fucking wood,
this man stands by my side.
721
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:00,955
I know he will.
Because he loves me for me.
722
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,167
So the problem I have,
Shake, is that you sat there
723
00:34:04,250 --> 00:34:06,252
and berated every single one
of these woman physically,
724
00:34:06,335 --> 00:34:07,545
and then went
through the process
725
00:34:07,628 --> 00:34:08,880
with this beautiful soul over here--
726
00:34:08,963 --> 00:34:10,381
-She is a beautiful soul.
-Because you wanted
727
00:34:10,465 --> 00:34:12,383
someone you wanted to fuck.
Not fall in love with.
728
00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:13,760
I didn't even do that!
729
00:34:13,843 --> 00:34:16,512
-That's the point!
-If you think that's my goal,
730
00:34:16,596 --> 00:34:18,598
-you're very wrong.
-You just said that, babe!
731
00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:21,642
No, I didn't.
You twisted that around.
732
00:34:21,726 --> 00:34:24,145
I did. I'm sorry. I'm heated.
Let me change the subject.
733
00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:27,190
-Whoa, change the subject?
-Ladies. It's still on you, babe.
734
00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:29,484
-Let me ask...
-You just changed the subject.
735
00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:32,320
Were you not-- What you were looking for
736
00:34:32,403 --> 00:34:34,614
sounds to me like
the conventional dating world.
737
00:34:34,697 --> 00:34:36,616
-No, it's not.
-What were you missing
738
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,327
in the conventional dating world
that you felt like you could find here?
739
00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:41,245
I want the emotional connection.
740
00:34:41,329 --> 00:34:44,999
Everything that we know the show
is supposed to do.
741
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:51,172
But there's also certain criteria there
that goes beyond the emotional connection.
742
00:34:52,173 --> 00:34:55,510
-This show establishes--
-Love is not purely blind to me.
743
00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:58,763
Great. But then that's why I said
you're on the wrong dating show.
744
00:34:58,846 --> 00:35:01,933
-That's all I said.
-I want it to be partially blind.
745
00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:04,936
I want it to be "Love is Blurry."
"Love is Blurry."
746
00:35:05,019 --> 00:35:06,896
Why don't you start "Love is Blurry."
747
00:35:06,979 --> 00:35:09,232
Get Netflix on the show.
Spinoff. "Love is Blurry."
748
00:35:09,315 --> 00:35:12,151
All I'm trying to say is, my friend,
this show is Love is Blind.
749
00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:13,528
I actually watched this.
750
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:15,530
I thought I started
to see a change in you.
751
00:35:15,613 --> 00:35:16,697
-There was.
-I really did.
752
00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:18,116
-There's no change.
-There was.
753
00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:21,327
I actually was like, "Oh, shit.
Is he really looking inward?"
754
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:25,123
Is he really seeing maybe
what his faults were
755
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,250
and what he wanted, and what he needed.
756
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:29,127
I'm doubling down actually
on the beginning.
757
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,212
You were lying
through the middle of the show?
758
00:35:31,295 --> 00:35:35,508
We all have our physical preferences.
Every woman here is beautiful.
759
00:35:35,591 --> 00:35:38,511
I think you're all beautiful.
I'm not attracted to all of you.
760
00:35:38,594 --> 00:35:40,680
Unfortunately, the only one
I'm attracted to is Vanessa.
761
00:35:40,763 --> 00:35:42,932
-Oh, my gosh.
-And I wish I wasn't!
762
00:35:43,015 --> 00:35:44,976
And I wish I wasn't.
The point is, it's not a choice.
763
00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:47,311
[Vanessa] And I've done nothing
but berate you this entire time.
764
00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:50,148
-That's a messed-up relationship.
-That's what I'm saying. I don't want to.
765
00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:52,692
-[Vanessa] So let's be better.
-You don't choose.
766
00:35:52,775 --> 00:35:54,777
It's nature, baby. We're animals.
767
00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:56,821
-We're animals.
-No, you treat animals.
768
00:35:56,904 --> 00:35:58,865
-We're human beings.
-Oh, shit!
769
00:35:58,948 --> 00:36:00,449
[Shake] We're still animals. Okay, Nick.
770
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,285
[Nick L.] I can see now
why you don't treat human beings.
771
00:36:02,368 --> 00:36:05,121
-Oh, oh, damn, Nick, that--
-No, I'm saying.
772
00:36:05,204 --> 00:36:06,664
Extremely uncomfortable right now.
773
00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:07,874
[Shake] That was fucked up.
774
00:36:07,957 --> 00:36:10,751
That's my man right here. Ladies, ladies.
775
00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:13,713
-The vet community...
-You're doing it yourself, dude.
776
00:36:13,796 --> 00:36:16,966
-You're digging the biggest hole...
-The vet community is not gonna like that.
777
00:36:17,049 --> 00:36:19,051
I love a vet as much as the next guy,
778
00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:22,597
but I don't like people who treat
human beings like you do.
779
00:36:23,222 --> 00:36:25,308
It's wrong. It's wrong.
780
00:36:25,391 --> 00:36:28,769
So you all love Deepti.
I saw that on the show.
781
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:32,315
We all felt that.
What was it like for you guys to watch
782
00:36:32,398 --> 00:36:35,484
her go through this?
And be here now with her and Shake?
783
00:36:35,568 --> 00:36:37,236
How are you feeling?
784
00:36:37,862 --> 00:36:41,365
Shake, one thing I think you would
seriously benefit from
785
00:36:41,449 --> 00:36:44,952
seeing a psychologist and
figuring out some coping skills
786
00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:47,496
to navigate relationships as a narcissist.
787
00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:51,167
Because I think you're going to continue
to damage relationships.
788
00:36:51,751 --> 00:36:54,462
[Danielle] Not even relationships,
just people in general.
789
00:36:54,545 --> 00:36:57,924
Deepti is hands down
790
00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:01,469
the most amazing
person inside and out.
791
00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:04,805
That's why I kind of butt heads
with Shake. It's like...
792
00:37:05,514 --> 00:37:08,935
out of all people in this entire world,
she doesn't deserve that.
793
00:37:09,018 --> 00:37:12,772
I mean, look at her. She looks like
a goddamn queen right now.
794
00:37:12,855 --> 00:37:16,692
A goddess. She is better on the inside
than she looks on the outside.
795
00:37:16,776 --> 00:37:19,987
I actually think his mom said it best,
it's what you're saying,
796
00:37:20,071 --> 00:37:23,115
and I give your mom props on that.
She said, "I'm taking her side."
797
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:25,910
She's so amazing, she doesn't even
deserve a half a percent,
798
00:37:25,993 --> 00:37:28,913
-someone to treat her half a percent--
-Goddess. Villain.
799
00:37:28,996 --> 00:37:31,499
-No, it's not the characters.
-It's not even like that.
800
00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:34,585
-This is her as a person.
-Yeah. This is me as a person.
801
00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:37,505
For you guys. For your entertainment.
802
00:37:37,588 --> 00:37:39,131
-Are you okay?
-I just want to say,
803
00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:41,884
it's okay to not be physically attracted
to somebody.
804
00:37:41,968 --> 00:37:44,136
Guess what? There's a million
other people who are.
805
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:47,598
It's the way you go about life.
It's how you do it and how you say it
806
00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:50,935
that's extremely disrespectful,
it's degrading to women,
807
00:37:51,018 --> 00:37:54,689
and I'm so happy for every single person
sitting on this couch today
808
00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:57,566
because they have my back
and they call you out.
809
00:37:57,650 --> 00:38:00,695
Beyond what was shown, we know
about all the things that you said.
810
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:02,530
[Iyanna] Yeah,
that was a watered-down version.
811
00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:04,323
[Natalie] That was a watered-down version
812
00:38:04,407 --> 00:38:06,284
of the things you said behind her back.
813
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,535
And I just...
814
00:38:07,994 --> 00:38:10,705
I don't understand
how you don't feel remorse.
815
00:38:10,788 --> 00:38:13,332
[Deepti] Honestly,
look at how you're speaking.
816
00:38:13,416 --> 00:38:15,501
Every single person here
has an issue with you.
817
00:38:15,584 --> 00:38:17,712
That says a lot about your character.
818
00:38:17,795 --> 00:38:18,879
That's all I'm going to say.
819
00:38:18,963 --> 00:38:21,299
That's what it's turned into,
unfortunately, yeah.
820
00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:24,677
It's not turning into it.
It's a reality check for you.
821
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,389
You lack the self-awareness to even know
you're doing something wrong.
822
00:38:28,472 --> 00:38:30,641
It's flabbergasting to me.
823
00:38:30,725 --> 00:38:33,811
The fact that I ever respected you
as a person,
824
00:38:33,894 --> 00:38:35,688
I'm mind-blown.
825
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:39,525
And I brought you to my family.
I've never done that.
826
00:38:39,608 --> 00:38:41,944
For my dad and my mom to sit there
827
00:38:42,028 --> 00:38:47,616
and watch you say these disgusting
fucking things about me is so degrading.
828
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,244
There's a way to say,
"Oh, I'm not physically into her."
829
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:52,413
Guess what?
Your aunt is probably dope as fuck.
830
00:38:52,496 --> 00:38:54,498
-That's all I have to say.
-She is. Absolutely.
831
00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:58,002
[Nick L.] It's the complete
lack of contrition.
832
00:38:58,085 --> 00:39:00,212
You absolutely-- you have no problem
833
00:39:00,296 --> 00:39:02,882
acting the way you act, and thinking
there's nothing wrong with it.
834
00:39:02,965 --> 00:39:06,469
That's fine. That's a completely
conscious decision on your part, I guess.
835
00:39:06,552 --> 00:39:09,096
But there's nothing wrong
with saying, "It didn't work out."
836
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:13,726
That's why it's an experiment.
It's just the way you go about it.
837
00:39:13,809 --> 00:39:16,187
[Vanessa] Deepti, did you see more
watching the show?
838
00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:18,856
Did you know about the stuff
that all your girlfriends are saying
839
00:39:18,939 --> 00:39:21,400
was happening behind your back?
Were you not aware?
840
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:24,779
Were you sensing it, but it wasn't as bad
until you watched it?
841
00:39:24,862 --> 00:39:27,698
-And you were like, "Oh, my God."
-Yeah. I definitely heard from the girls,
842
00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:29,075
and Shayne and Jarrette.
843
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:31,869
They all warned me that this is not
a person you should marry.
844
00:39:31,952 --> 00:39:34,580
Because he's talking about you this way
behind your back.
845
00:39:34,663 --> 00:39:37,792
I didn't know the extent of how
he was talking to me.
846
00:39:37,875 --> 00:39:41,545
Or about me.
But he was straightforward with me.
847
00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:45,049
"I'm not physically attracted to you."
Listen, I don't give a fuck if you're not.
848
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:48,719
But if you care about somebody,
and you're supposedly their friend,
849
00:39:48,803 --> 00:39:51,847
you do not disrespect them
on national fucking TV.
850
00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:56,143
And that is the most hurtful part.
I do not care if he's not attracted to me.
851
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:59,021
-Don't care.
-That was the watered-down version.
852
00:39:59,105 --> 00:40:02,441
I could have handled that differently.
I agree.
853
00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:05,361
You just don't know how to speak.
Especially to women.
854
00:40:05,444 --> 00:40:06,737
That's all I'm going to say.
855
00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:14,745
Okay. Well, we wish the best for you guys.
856
00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:18,082
And we know
you won't have trouble finding love.
857
00:40:18,165 --> 00:40:20,709
And I hope you will continue
to figure it out.
858
00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:23,712
We're moving on now to...
859
00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:28,050
-Kyle and Shaina. Hi, guys.
-Hi.
860
00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:29,885
-Hi.
-Bringing it back around.
861
00:40:31,345 --> 00:40:34,557
This was an interesting one
because obviously, we talked about it
862
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,767
at the top of the show
with the proposal.
863
00:40:36,851 --> 00:40:39,145
But I felt like
864
00:40:39,228 --> 00:40:43,441
Shaina was kind of trying to tell you,
Kyle, at the reveal,
865
00:40:43,524 --> 00:40:47,695
I don't know if we should move on
with this. I don't know...
866
00:40:47,778 --> 00:40:50,030
if I'm ready for this next step.
867
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:55,161
You kept wanting to try to make it work.
Do you feel like, in a way,
868
00:40:55,244 --> 00:40:57,371
I don't want to say
that you pushed her into it,
869
00:40:57,455 --> 00:41:00,374
but you kind of convinced her,
"Let's continue on with this process."
870
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,293
Or that it was a mutual agreement?
871
00:41:02,376 --> 00:41:05,045
Yeah. I mean, we got engaged for a reason.
872
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:08,549
I wanted to follow through
with the experiment.
873
00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:11,051
Like we all did. And...
874
00:41:12,011 --> 00:41:14,096
you didn't really get
to see our connection.
875
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,932
We were really close.
We spoke for so long.
876
00:41:17,016 --> 00:41:20,478
We bonded. Nobody really got to see that.
877
00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:23,063
So...
878
00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:29,236
In that moment, I was caught off guard
when you weren't sure after we met.
879
00:41:29,653 --> 00:41:32,948
You know. And I walked away,
and you said,
880
00:41:33,699 --> 00:41:35,326
"This is going to be tough."
881
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:37,786
And I said, "Have some hope."
882
00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:41,332
So that bothered me a little bit.
883
00:41:41,415 --> 00:41:43,250
It left me a little uncertain.
884
00:41:43,334 --> 00:41:47,338
I thought it was perfect
up until that day.
885
00:41:47,421 --> 00:41:50,090
I didn't know about
the whole Shayne scenario.
886
00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:54,762
So, I was caught off guard when I saw it
for the first time, definitely.
887
00:41:54,845 --> 00:41:58,849
[Nick L.] I'm curious. Why do you think
Shaina wanted to break off the engagement?
888
00:41:58,933 --> 00:42:01,101
Do you think she was ever really
in love with you?
889
00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:03,437
Do you think
it was maybe the Shayne scenario?
890
00:42:03,521 --> 00:42:04,563
Was it something else?
891
00:42:04,647 --> 00:42:06,398
I don't know. I wish I knew.
892
00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:08,275
I would love to know.
893
00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:13,322
I want to know
why you had the hesitation.
894
00:42:13,405 --> 00:42:17,618
Was it more than religion?
Or was it strictly religion?
895
00:42:17,701 --> 00:42:20,204
Was it Shayne?
Was it how I looked?
896
00:42:20,287 --> 00:42:23,707
No. I had those reservations
before I even met you.
897
00:42:23,791 --> 00:42:27,253
It had nothing to do with looks.
I think you're a very handsome person.
898
00:42:27,836 --> 00:42:31,882
It was one of those things
where I was compromising my own...
899
00:42:32,758 --> 00:42:34,718
beliefs. I thought for a second,
900
00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:37,763
"I've been with a Christian before.
It didn't work."
901
00:42:37,846 --> 00:42:40,849
Right? So I'm like--
I was having this internal struggle with
902
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,435
"Do I give this an open mind?
Just 'cause they're Christian
903
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,187
doesn't mean
they're a good person." Right?
904
00:42:45,271 --> 00:42:49,316
I felt that you were a good person,
so I was like, "Do I give it a shot?"
905
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,026
It was an internal struggle for me.
906
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:55,281
At the end of the day, long story short,
it was the religion for sure.
907
00:42:55,364 --> 00:42:58,701
I don't want to use the word religion.
It was more my relationship with God.
908
00:42:58,784 --> 00:43:01,787
That's a huge factor in my life.
You would never be able to give me that.
909
00:43:01,870 --> 00:43:03,789
I wouldn't want to force you in that.
910
00:43:03,872 --> 00:43:06,917
If you were certain from the beginning,
you should never have said yes to me.
911
00:43:07,001 --> 00:43:09,253
I should never have said yes.
I agree with that.
912
00:43:09,336 --> 00:43:10,462
You wasted my time.
913
00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:13,799
It was a people-pleasing moment,
and I should have never said yes to you.
914
00:43:13,882 --> 00:43:15,926
And I own that.
I'm very sorry that I said yes.
915
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:17,261
I should have never said yes.
916
00:43:21,557 --> 00:43:23,809
I don't know what else you want out of...
917
00:43:27,813 --> 00:43:29,565
It's just, I mean...
918
00:43:30,149 --> 00:43:34,612
It was just a big waste of time.
But I have a huge regret.
919
00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:37,615
The biggest regret is I should have...
920
00:43:37,698 --> 00:43:39,783
I should have asked Deepti to marry me.
921
00:43:39,867 --> 00:43:41,327
Like, she was--
922
00:43:41,410 --> 00:43:42,828
[Kyle stammering and laughing]
923
00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:46,790
That's what I learned the most.
I fucked up.
924
00:43:46,874 --> 00:43:47,875
I fucked up.
925
00:43:47,958 --> 00:43:52,004
I should have...
I should have tried harder for you.
926
00:43:52,087 --> 00:43:53,964
I mean, I love her so much.
She's the best.
927
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:57,301
And I wish I saw what was right
in front of me.
928
00:43:57,384 --> 00:44:00,220
I do have-- That's my biggest regret.
929
00:44:01,263 --> 00:44:02,389
I'm sorry.
930
00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:06,393
-Deepti's amazing.
-She is. I love her. She's the best.
931
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:08,604
I would love that between you two.
932
00:44:08,687 --> 00:44:12,399
Yeah. It pisses me off because
you wasted such a good opportunity.
933
00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,652
Not true. Because now you have it.
934
00:44:15,319 --> 00:44:16,737
Happy to facilitate.
935
00:44:18,697 --> 00:44:24,244
Okay. We're going to move on
to probably the most shocking
936
00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:27,039
wedding day rejection.
937
00:44:27,956 --> 00:44:29,667
Natalie and Shayne.
938
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:33,545
So we all saw that
there was a big blow up fight
939
00:44:33,629 --> 00:44:35,923
the night before your wedding
940
00:44:36,006 --> 00:44:38,175
that ultimately ended your engagement.
941
00:44:38,884 --> 00:44:40,219
It was after a lot of drinking
942
00:44:40,302 --> 00:44:42,221
at the bachelorette and bachelor party.
943
00:44:43,055 --> 00:44:43,931
What happened?
944
00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:49,812
What happened that night that you guys
want to share that ended this...
945
00:44:50,479 --> 00:44:52,606
fairytale process for both of you?
946
00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:55,943
[Shayne] Everyone has a breaking point
during this whole experiment.
947
00:44:56,026 --> 00:44:58,153
The pressure all of this is on you.
948
00:44:58,237 --> 00:45:00,364
And you know, obviously, the drinking.
949
00:45:00,447 --> 00:45:02,908
You know you're getting married
that night, it's like...
950
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:07,788
I kind of had a moment like,
"Oh, shit." Like...
951
00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:12,418
I don't know.
952
00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:19,550
I still wish it didn't go down that way.
I mean...
953
00:45:20,759 --> 00:45:22,803
Trust me, there's not a day
I don't think about that fuckin' night
954
00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:23,887
and go over it in my head.
955
00:45:23,971 --> 00:45:25,931
-Definitely. 100%. Yeah.
-Yeah.
956
00:45:26,014 --> 00:45:27,641
Did you say things you didn't want to say?
957
00:45:27,724 --> 00:45:30,310
-Yeah. Of course.
-[Vanessa] But it was how you felt.
958
00:45:30,394 --> 00:45:32,896
No, not really.
It was an emotional reaction.
959
00:45:34,314 --> 00:45:36,984
Some of the words were that way.
960
00:45:37,067 --> 00:45:41,697
Again, I have to learn how to express it
better than just being so reactive.
961
00:45:41,780 --> 00:45:46,201
And I'm very well-- I've seen that.
962
00:45:46,285 --> 00:45:51,206
I have to get better at not being
so reactive to certain situations.
963
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,293
[Vanessa]
How was that night for you, Natalie?
964
00:45:56,378 --> 00:45:57,754
Uh...
965
00:46:03,135 --> 00:46:07,931
I mean, it sucks because I feel like
that night changed everything.
966
00:46:08,891 --> 00:46:10,142
Uh...
967
00:46:15,272 --> 00:46:19,234
I, like, I truly believe
that he is remorseful of it.
968
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:22,279
He has apologized a million times
969
00:46:22,362 --> 00:46:23,489
for that night.
970
00:46:24,740 --> 00:46:27,784
And I don't think he meant those words.
971
00:46:27,868 --> 00:46:30,829
Like, I know he didn't.
He's made that very clear.
972
00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:35,334
But I think... I think
what makes it sad is... you know...
973
00:46:37,002 --> 00:46:41,215
why it's so hard for me
to talk about is... um...
974
00:46:42,341 --> 00:46:44,885
because really
that night changed everything...
975
00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:48,597
for us. I know, like...
976
00:46:50,015 --> 00:46:52,226
it sounds stupid to say a fight
changed everything,
977
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:56,063
but I think it just, for us,
it was kind of a wake-up call
978
00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:59,358
that, "Wow, we have big issues
to work through.
979
00:46:59,441 --> 00:47:01,401
Maybe we're not ready for marriage."
980
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:05,322
I think before that night,
we were like 100% going to say yes
981
00:47:05,405 --> 00:47:08,659
and be married.
So it's hard knowing that night happened.
982
00:47:08,742 --> 00:47:11,537
But I do think it was for the best
at the end of the day.
983
00:47:11,954 --> 00:47:18,293
I think it revealed that we hadn't
worked through all our problems.
984
00:47:18,377 --> 00:47:21,505
I'm not saying you have to
work through every problem for marriage.
985
00:47:21,588 --> 00:47:25,634
But I think that was a big one,
the way we communicate with each other.
986
00:47:25,717 --> 00:47:27,761
-Can I say something, please, actually?
-Yes.
987
00:47:27,844 --> 00:47:30,180
I'm expressing remorse.
988
00:47:30,264 --> 00:47:32,307
I'm taking accountability
for what happened that night.
989
00:47:32,391 --> 00:47:35,769
But I mean, there was a reason also
why I got to that point too.
990
00:47:35,852 --> 00:47:39,481
You're kind of pushing it under the rug
and making it seem like I'm almost...
991
00:47:40,774 --> 00:47:43,819
The words that I used,
they didn't come out of nowhere.
992
00:47:43,902 --> 00:47:47,322
Okay? You haven't apologized
for your side of the story.
993
00:47:47,406 --> 00:47:51,910
You haven't owned up to...
So it was 100% my fault?
994
00:47:51,994 --> 00:47:54,746
I take most of the blame, yes.
But you're sitting there saying
995
00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:57,040
"I this, this, and that."
It's like--
996
00:47:57,124 --> 00:47:59,418
I'm not putting the blame on you
by any means.
997
00:47:59,501 --> 00:48:03,171
I understand that that anger came out
from somewhere.
998
00:48:03,255 --> 00:48:06,550
Obviously, something I've done to you,
or I pushed you
999
00:48:06,633 --> 00:48:09,970
to that point. I don't want it to seem
like I'm just blaming it on you,
1000
00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:13,807
and those words came out of nowhere.
I know that it came from a place of...
1001
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:17,561
you being frustrated with me.
Or you feeling...
1002
00:48:17,644 --> 00:48:20,063
me making you feel
like you weren't enough.
1003
00:48:21,398 --> 00:48:23,525
You don't feel bad
about anything you've done?
1004
00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:25,944
No apologies or anything?
You think that you've...
1005
00:48:26,028 --> 00:48:28,196
-No. I'm like--
-That's what I'm trying, it's like,
1006
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,240
it's so tough. It's like...
1007
00:48:32,242 --> 00:48:33,744
-Yeah.
-I...
1008
00:48:35,412 --> 00:48:37,789
I feel like we've talked about this,
because we have.
1009
00:48:37,873 --> 00:48:41,918
I obviously apologize for making you feel
like you weren't good enough.
1010
00:48:43,629 --> 00:48:46,757
I don't-- I feel like
you were more than enough.
1011
00:48:52,679 --> 00:48:53,847
Sorry.
1012
00:48:56,725 --> 00:48:58,560
Shayne, what are you thinking right now?
1013
00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:01,229
I'm just fucking sad.
1014
00:49:02,230 --> 00:49:04,232
-What are you sad about?
-Huh?
1015
00:49:04,316 --> 00:49:08,070
Are you sad about that night,
or that you feel like you're...
1016
00:49:09,112 --> 00:49:11,406
-being pinpointed as the reason?
-No. No.
1017
00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:15,243
She said it, that makes--
That's the stuff I want to hear too.
1018
00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:20,624
It's accountability for both of us.
I understand it was mostly my fault.
1019
00:49:20,707 --> 00:49:23,877
But I'm not going to be taken out
to be the bad guy
1020
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,631
of every situation that happened.
I'm owning up to things I did wrong.
1021
00:49:27,714 --> 00:49:30,300
I admit that. I'm a human being.
And I made mistakes.
1022
00:49:30,384 --> 00:49:32,886
-But, like...
-I don't think in our situation
1023
00:49:32,969 --> 00:49:34,971
there's a good guy or a bad guy.
1024
00:49:35,055 --> 00:49:37,641
I know. That's what I want you to say.
1025
00:49:37,724 --> 00:49:40,143
Because the way you said it earlier
was like
1026
00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:43,230
those words, I know you didn't mean it.
You were angry, this and that...
1027
00:49:43,313 --> 00:49:47,359
Yes, but you didn't say I was a good guy.
I want you to say those kinds of things.
1028
00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:50,570
[Nick L.] I'm going to ask
a really difficult question,
1029
00:49:50,654 --> 00:49:52,406
one you may not be able to answer.
1030
00:49:52,989 --> 00:49:56,201
Do the two of you,
in talking about that night,
1031
00:49:56,284 --> 00:50:01,248
and reliving, not just that night,
but the entire experience together,
1032
00:50:01,331 --> 00:50:05,210
do you feel like
you may have missed a chance...
1033
00:50:05,961 --> 00:50:08,213
at being really happy?
1034
00:50:08,296 --> 00:50:10,257
Did that night, was that night
1035
00:50:10,340 --> 00:50:13,468
the only thing that derailed
what to that point had felt like
1036
00:50:13,552 --> 00:50:17,222
a really, really kind
of well-oiled machine, if you will.
1037
00:50:17,305 --> 00:50:19,766
And it may have been indicative
of things that'd been building up.
1038
00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:21,852
I'm not suggesting. I'm just curious.
1039
00:50:23,228 --> 00:50:25,856
Regret's a really, really powerful thing.
1040
00:50:25,939 --> 00:50:30,026
Do you look back and think,
"Man, we were so close, we could have..."?
1041
00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:34,030
"It's within our grasp."
Did that night completely derail it?
1042
00:50:34,948 --> 00:50:37,367
-I don't like thinking that way.
-[Shayne] Yeah.
1043
00:50:41,329 --> 00:50:43,331
-[Nick L.] Yeah. That's...
-[Shayne] I mean...
1044
00:50:45,625 --> 00:50:49,296
So, is this the first time
you guys have seen each other since...
1045
00:50:50,964 --> 00:50:52,758
since your...
1046
00:50:53,925 --> 00:50:55,218
wedding?
1047
00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:58,972
We gave it another shot
after our wedding day.
1048
00:50:59,681 --> 00:51:02,142
-[Vanessa] You dated again.
-[Natalie] Yeah. We dated again.
1049
00:51:03,059 --> 00:51:05,687
Without the pressures.
We just wanted to see if, you know...
1050
00:51:07,230 --> 00:51:09,900
-how we would work out.
-[Shayne] It was too fresh.
1051
00:51:09,983 --> 00:51:11,568
-It was too fresh at the time.
-[Natalie] Yeah.
1052
00:51:11,651 --> 00:51:15,739
I will say, for me, I held on
to that fight for so long.
1053
00:51:15,822 --> 00:51:19,117
I kind of held it against you.
And that...
1054
00:51:20,994 --> 00:51:26,249
And... I think it didn't allow us--
I couldn't get myself to move on from it,
1055
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:27,709
if that makes sense.
1056
00:51:28,627 --> 00:51:33,006
What did you guys think now that,
obviously, everyone in the--
1057
00:51:33,089 --> 00:51:36,510
I think Jarrette, you were the one
that was like, "Oh, for sure.
1058
00:51:36,593 --> 00:51:38,637
Shayne and Natalie."
And everyone kinda echoed that.
1059
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:41,932
What do all of you,
being on the outside looking in,
1060
00:51:42,015 --> 00:51:43,767
being there for them,
seeing them go through this,
1061
00:51:43,850 --> 00:51:46,686
how do you feel about their journey?
1062
00:51:46,770 --> 00:51:52,150
Even right now I'm getting emotional.
You can still feel the love that's there.
1063
00:51:52,234 --> 00:51:56,363
I feel like Shayne and I got pretty close
pretty quick in the pods.
1064
00:51:56,446 --> 00:51:58,865
We're still friends today.
1065
00:51:58,949 --> 00:52:03,036
I know, despite what happened,
he was in love with you.
1066
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:04,496
Hands down.
1067
00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:06,456
And vice versa, you know.
1068
00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:08,333
[Nick T.] It breaks my heart
that they said no.
1069
00:52:08,416 --> 00:52:09,417
[Danielle] Yeah.
1070
00:52:09,501 --> 00:52:14,965
[Nick T.] And I just hope that whatever
you two do, you do find happiness.
1071
00:52:15,048 --> 00:52:18,468
You know. If it's with each other,
we're there for you.
1072
00:52:18,552 --> 00:52:22,222
Does it feel good to hear people say
how much they enjoyed your relationship,
1073
00:52:22,305 --> 00:52:24,891
-and how--
-Of course. It feels fantastic.
1074
00:52:24,975 --> 00:52:27,727
It's seriously much appreciated.
1075
00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:31,731
Another big topic that everyone has been
dying to know because obviously,
1076
00:52:31,815 --> 00:52:36,862
it was heightened in season two is
that you and Shaina--
1077
00:52:36,945 --> 00:52:39,364
[Shayne] Here's the deal.
I'm not getting into that conversation.
1078
00:52:39,447 --> 00:52:40,991
-I'm sorry.
-[Vanessa] I'm just asking
1079
00:52:41,074 --> 00:52:43,827
-if you've seen each other before today.
-[Shayne] Yes.
1080
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:49,958
Sorry, Shaina, what's...
1081
00:52:50,041 --> 00:52:52,127
No, I don't know why
he's reacting that way.
1082
00:52:52,210 --> 00:52:54,838
[Shayne] No, I'm not.
I'm not reacting that way. It's like...
1083
00:52:55,922 --> 00:52:58,008
-Not alone...
-I'm not trying to start anything.
1084
00:52:58,091 --> 00:53:00,886
It was a question. We talked about
how you guys tried to date again.
1085
00:53:00,969 --> 00:53:01,928
I think that's amazing.
1086
00:53:02,012 --> 00:53:04,347
This is the reunion.
What's happened since the weddings?
1087
00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:06,600
What happened since the "I do's"
and the "I don'ts"?
1088
00:53:06,683 --> 00:53:07,976
People just want to know.
1089
00:53:08,059 --> 00:53:11,438
They're invested in your growth,
personally, Shayne.
1090
00:53:11,521 --> 00:53:13,148
And in your growth, Shaina.
1091
00:53:13,231 --> 00:53:16,067
And how you guys have managed
to come out of this on the other end.
1092
00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:19,446
Are you uncomfortable talking about that?
1093
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,330
It's literally the last thing I was going
to say before I moved on to Iyanna.
1094
00:53:28,413 --> 00:53:32,000
We don't have to talk about it.
I'll ask Shaina. Hey, girl.
1095
00:53:32,083 --> 00:53:34,628
Yeah, there's nothing.
We were always just friends.
1096
00:53:34,711 --> 00:53:36,671
There was nothing
ever romantic afterwards.
1097
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:38,214
-I didn't even--
-I know.
1098
00:53:38,298 --> 00:53:40,800
I don't know if he's uncomfortable.
I don't want him to think
1099
00:53:40,884 --> 00:53:43,678
it's taking away from your and Shayne's
story. There was nothing like that.
1100
00:53:43,762 --> 00:53:46,348
-Yeah, there was nothing.
-[Nick T.] It's just emotional.
1101
00:53:47,432 --> 00:53:49,309
-[Vanessa] I totally get that.
-[Shaina] Yeah.
1102
00:53:53,813 --> 00:53:56,358
All right, guys. Now on to a couple
who both said yes,
1103
00:53:56,441 --> 00:53:58,526
-Jarrette and Iyanna.
-[Vanessa] Yay!
1104
00:53:58,610 --> 00:53:59,819
[Nick L.] Congrats. Congrats.
1105
00:54:01,321 --> 00:54:02,781
How's it feeling?
1106
00:54:02,864 --> 00:54:05,116
Married life has been... has been fun.
1107
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,202
-It's been a roller-coaster.
-Yeah.
1108
00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:11,122
Honestly, if anybody says marriage
is easy...
1109
00:54:11,206 --> 00:54:12,499
-They're lying.
-They're lying.
1110
00:54:12,582 --> 00:54:17,253
But we've learned a lot, and grown a lot
since we first said "I do".
1111
00:54:17,337 --> 00:54:21,883
I wouldn't ride this roller-coaster with
anyone else than this woman right here.
1112
00:54:21,967 --> 00:54:25,345
[Iyanna] For me, it feels like a mirror.
There are things I believe that
1113
00:54:25,428 --> 00:54:28,306
I would be able to handle better,
or react better.
1114
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:30,266
I'm like, "No, I'm healed
in this situation."
1115
00:54:30,350 --> 00:54:33,645
But I realize there's still some things
that I need to work on.
1116
00:54:34,688 --> 00:54:37,524
Which was really hard for me
to come to terms with.
1117
00:54:37,607 --> 00:54:39,776
I was like, "No, I said I'm better."
1118
00:54:40,485 --> 00:54:45,573
But yeah, it's been hard.
But it's been really rewarding too.
1119
00:54:45,657 --> 00:54:49,160
Just for myself individually,
and then us, as a couple.
1120
00:54:49,244 --> 00:54:52,455
Do you agree that
as soon as the show was over,
1121
00:54:52,539 --> 00:54:54,708
you're just thrown into the real world?
1122
00:54:54,791 --> 00:54:57,794
You're like, "Okay. We have to reassess."
1123
00:54:57,877 --> 00:55:02,298
I've realized that things that I was doing
prior to being married.
1124
00:55:02,382 --> 00:55:05,510
Some of those things tried to creep back
into the marriage.
1125
00:55:05,593 --> 00:55:07,554
I had to shock myself again
and say,
1126
00:55:07,637 --> 00:55:10,306
"These things are, they're not okay."
1127
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:13,852
Just being able to see that
self-awareness, and kinda work on that,
1128
00:55:13,935 --> 00:55:18,106
and then, so that again,
I'm the best person for myself, for her,
1129
00:55:18,189 --> 00:55:20,108
and the betterment of our relationship.
1130
00:55:20,567 --> 00:55:24,529
I was going to ask you about that.
A lot was made up to the marriage...
1131
00:55:24,612 --> 00:55:26,281
-Taco Tuesday.
-Different lifestyles.
1132
00:55:26,364 --> 00:55:29,159
You going out all the time.
You liking to stay home and read a book.
1133
00:55:29,242 --> 00:55:34,748
I was curious had those lifestyles
merged into one more laid back,
1134
00:55:34,831 --> 00:55:36,875
-conservative lifestyle?
-It's been a struggle. No, I'm kidding.
1135
00:55:36,958 --> 00:55:37,959
[laughter]
1136
00:55:38,043 --> 00:55:39,419
[Iyanna] No, it has. So...
1137
00:55:39,502 --> 00:55:43,548
One thing I will say
is we've been finding our balance.
1138
00:55:43,631 --> 00:55:46,342
We're hyper-aware of the fact
that we are very different.
1139
00:55:46,426 --> 00:55:51,097
He's extremely extroverted,
and I'm like, "Please, stay away from me."
1140
00:55:51,181 --> 00:55:53,058
So we've been finding our--
1141
00:55:53,141 --> 00:55:56,644
I think this will always be something
that we'll have to deal with.
1142
00:55:56,728 --> 00:55:58,313
Because we're so different.
1143
00:55:58,396 --> 00:56:02,358
But we have such similar values,
and similar goals.
1144
00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:06,362
So it's just been compromise, ultimately.
1145
00:56:06,446 --> 00:56:09,616
I have been going out more,
and he has been staying in more.
1146
00:56:09,699 --> 00:56:12,077
So we're just constantly, like juggling.
1147
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,412
I like to give her the opportunity
to say no.
1148
00:56:14,496 --> 00:56:15,580
I've learned that from friends.
1149
00:56:15,663 --> 00:56:17,373
That if you give them
the opportunity to say no,
1150
00:56:17,457 --> 00:56:18,958
-it's better, versus just doing it.
-It is better.
1151
00:56:19,042 --> 00:56:19,876
[laughter]
1152
00:56:19,959 --> 00:56:22,003
-Very smart.
-You're learning.
1153
00:56:22,796 --> 00:56:24,089
-I love it.
-Very smart.
1154
00:56:24,172 --> 00:56:27,759
I love it. Well, another thing that
everyone noticed on the show
1155
00:56:27,842 --> 00:56:31,137
was that you guys were always so sweet
and so intimate.
1156
00:56:31,221 --> 00:56:34,390
But never going that extra mile
until wedding day.
1157
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:36,142
You were waiting till the wedding day.
1158
00:56:36,226 --> 00:56:37,644
Right? And you kept your promise?
1159
00:56:39,771 --> 00:56:41,815
[laughter]
1160
00:56:41,898 --> 00:56:44,400
[Iyanna, stammering] Some... God, okay.
1161
00:56:44,484 --> 00:56:46,945
-So the thing about it--
-[Vanessa] So what had happened was...
1162
00:56:47,028 --> 00:56:51,866
The thing about it is I was very
protective about that aspect
1163
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:53,409
of our relationship.
1164
00:56:53,493 --> 00:56:56,996
And I wanted to reveal that
when I wanted to reveal that.
1165
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,332
But if I'm honest, like...
1166
00:57:02,794 --> 00:57:04,712
we had sex in Mexico.
1167
00:57:04,796 --> 00:57:05,630
[laughter]
1168
00:57:05,713 --> 00:57:08,174
-It was just one time.
-Just one time.
1169
00:57:10,176 --> 00:57:12,095
We know it's not easy.
We appreciate you guys
1170
00:57:12,178 --> 00:57:15,640
being so candid,
and being so vulnerable and honest.
1171
00:57:15,723 --> 00:57:17,559
-It means a lot.
-Anything anybody wants to--
1172
00:57:17,642 --> 00:57:20,645
Can I just say, I think,
even though I didn't find my husband
1173
00:57:20,728 --> 00:57:24,774
through this experience, I feel like
I've met so many amazing people
1174
00:57:24,858 --> 00:57:27,277
that I can call some of my best friends.
1175
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,112
And for that I'm very thankful.
1176
00:57:29,195 --> 00:57:31,739
-Guys, anything you all want to say?
-Yeah. You're right.
1177
00:57:31,823 --> 00:57:34,617
This was the wrong show for me.
I'll just come out and say it.
1178
00:57:34,701 --> 00:57:39,038
I have my own warped views.
And I've got to work on those. That's all.
1179
00:57:39,122 --> 00:57:40,623
Sal, you good over there?
1180
00:57:40,707 --> 00:57:45,462
Yeah, sincerely, just final thoughts.
I'm really happy for Nick, Danielle,
1181
00:57:45,545 --> 00:57:49,883
Jarrette, and Iyanna. Sincerely,
it's really hard to do what you guys did.
1182
00:57:50,508 --> 00:57:54,304
To mutually put the work in
and learn how to jump through the hurdles
1183
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:56,806
that you need to
to accomplish what you guys did.
1184
00:57:56,890 --> 00:57:59,642
And I really admire you both, all,
both couples.
1185
00:57:59,726 --> 00:58:01,227
-Thank you, Sal.
-I admire you guys.
1186
00:58:01,311 --> 00:58:04,189
It's nice to see that
this actually works.
1187
00:58:04,272 --> 00:58:08,776
This is the second season,
and people got married, and it works.
1188
00:58:08,860 --> 00:58:10,987
And it's for real.
1189
00:58:11,070 --> 00:58:14,991
-Yeah.
-[Mallory] So that gives hope to all of us
1190
00:58:15,074 --> 00:58:17,827
who didn't, and everyone watching.
1191
00:58:19,787 --> 00:58:23,124
Thanks again for being here, first off.
And for your honesty.
1192
00:58:23,208 --> 00:58:24,542
And your vulnerability.
1193
00:58:24,626 --> 00:58:26,669
We appreciate you guys doing all that.
1194
00:58:27,128 --> 00:58:29,631
Sadly, this reunion is almost coming
to an end.
1195
00:58:29,714 --> 00:58:32,926
Before we go, we did have
one final question for the group.
1196
00:58:33,009 --> 00:58:36,554
How do you know when someone
is actually the one?
1197
00:58:37,472 --> 00:58:43,853
For me, personally, it was when both
my emotions and my logic aligned.
1198
00:58:43,937 --> 00:58:45,146
-Honestly.
-Yeah.
1199
00:58:45,230 --> 00:58:47,232
-Jarrette?
-How do I respond after that?
1200
00:58:47,732 --> 00:58:49,943
-Just say, "Yes, ma'am."
-Yes, ma'am.
1201
00:58:51,611 --> 00:58:53,571
Now, when love is blind, you both know.
1202
00:58:53,655 --> 00:58:55,865
You want to get married
before ever seeing each other.
1203
00:58:55,949 --> 00:58:58,243
But in Netflix's new dating series,
The Ultimatum,
1204
00:58:58,326 --> 00:59:01,120
six couples have come to a point
in their own relationships
1205
00:59:01,204 --> 00:59:03,414
where one person is ready
to be married,
1206
00:59:03,498 --> 00:59:06,376
-and the other, well, isn't.
-Yes!
1207
00:59:06,459 --> 00:59:10,505
In this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,
these couples will put their relationships
1208
00:59:10,588 --> 00:59:12,173
to the ultimate test
1209
00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:14,968
with the hopes that they'll walk away
engaged to the person
1210
00:59:15,051 --> 00:59:17,387
that they are truly meant to be with.
1211
00:59:17,470 --> 00:59:20,306
Each person will be compatible
with multiple partners.
1212
00:59:20,390 --> 00:59:23,351
They'll each select one new partner
to move in with for three weeks
1213
00:59:23,434 --> 00:59:25,395
in a trial marriage.
1214
00:59:25,478 --> 00:59:27,689
They'll get to experience
two different visions
1215
00:59:27,772 --> 00:59:30,275
and versions of what their married life
could look like.
1216
00:59:30,358 --> 00:59:32,735
At the end of the experiment,
they will have to decide
1217
00:59:32,819 --> 00:59:34,904
if they want to marry the person
they arrived with,
1218
00:59:34,988 --> 00:59:37,365
-or split forever.
-Or...
1219
00:59:38,032 --> 00:59:40,660
maybe they met someone else
that's actually a better fit.
1220
00:59:40,743 --> 00:59:43,413
Or that. Now, most people
don't actually know this,
1221
00:59:43,496 --> 00:59:46,958
but at one point in our relationship,
Vanessa actually gave me an ultimatum.
1222
00:59:47,041 --> 00:59:48,751
Okay, first of all, first of all.
1223
00:59:48,835 --> 00:59:50,545
We'd been dating for five years.
1224
00:59:50,628 --> 00:59:52,964
I was turning 30, and he wanted kids.
1225
00:59:53,047 --> 00:59:55,633
So the next actual step was,
"What are we doing?"
1226
00:59:55,717 --> 00:59:56,926
So it was an ultimatum.
1227
00:59:57,010 --> 00:59:58,052
-Okay.
-Yeah, okay.
1228
00:59:59,887 --> 01:00:00,888
Let's take a look.
1229
01:00:02,223 --> 01:00:07,270
The only thing scarier than losing you
right now would be to marry you.
1230
01:00:07,854 --> 01:00:12,400
You're here because someone in your
relationship has issued an ultimatum.
1231
01:00:12,483 --> 01:00:13,860
I want a ring on this finger.
1232
01:00:13,943 --> 01:00:18,156
[Vanessa] One partner is ready to get
married, and the other isn't sure.
1233
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:19,490
[man] I'm not ready to propose.
1234
01:00:19,574 --> 01:00:21,659
[Nick L.] Take a good look
around at each other.
1235
01:00:21,743 --> 01:00:23,745
[Vanessa] You're going to find out
if there are people here...
1236
01:00:23,828 --> 01:00:25,038
Who might be a better fit.
1237
01:00:26,581 --> 01:00:29,542
At the end of the week,
you'll each choose a new partner.
1238
01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:32,128
[Vanessa] You'll move in together
for three weeks.
1239
01:00:32,211 --> 01:00:33,880
At the end of this experience...
1240
01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:35,465
[Nick L.] You guys will have to choose,
1241
01:00:35,548 --> 01:00:37,467
either marry the person
you've arrived here with,
1242
01:00:37,550 --> 01:00:38,718
or to split forever.
1243
01:00:38,801 --> 01:00:40,428
[woman] There is someone for everyone,
1244
01:00:40,511 --> 01:00:43,514
and I think a lot of people would be happy
to be with me.
1245
01:00:43,598 --> 01:00:44,974
Cheers!
1246
01:00:45,058 --> 01:00:47,602
Can we have a good time?
Because our lives are going to change
1247
01:00:47,685 --> 01:00:49,062
in 24 fucking hours!
1248
01:00:49,145 --> 01:00:50,396
[all laugh and cheer]
1249
01:00:51,564 --> 01:00:54,317
Being single is extremely nerve-wracking.
1250
01:00:55,526 --> 01:00:57,362
This experience is making us
all start over.
1251
01:00:57,445 --> 01:01:00,073
It's weird to see the person you came
here with dating someone else.
1252
01:01:00,156 --> 01:01:01,991
I'm not attracted to you.
1253
01:01:02,075 --> 01:01:04,535
I think you can do 100% better than him.
1254
01:01:04,619 --> 01:01:07,955
My eyes have opened up to a lot of things
that I want in a relationship.
1255
01:01:08,873 --> 01:01:10,041
Have I thought about spending
1256
01:01:10,124 --> 01:01:11,459
the rest of my life with you?
Absolutely.
1257
01:01:11,542 --> 01:01:14,295
This is hard. If you guys aren't going
to be real with yourselves,
1258
01:01:14,379 --> 01:01:15,630
why are you here?
1259
01:01:16,172 --> 01:01:19,008
[man] I'd be crushed if she walked out
of here with another guy.
1260
01:01:19,092 --> 01:01:22,303
[woman] Do I think there's a possibility
I could be happy with somebody else?
1261
01:01:22,387 --> 01:01:23,721
Yes.
1262
01:01:23,805 --> 01:01:26,599
I thought giving Jake
an ultimatum would bring us together.
1263
01:01:26,683 --> 01:01:28,142
It is doing the complete opposite.
1264
01:01:35,316 --> 01:01:36,901
[all clapping]
1265
01:01:37,902 --> 01:01:40,029
Love is Blind Season Two in the books.
1266
01:01:40,113 --> 01:01:43,032
-That's a wrap.
-[cheering]
1267
01:01:44,701 --> 01:01:47,203
-Shot o'clock.
-Shot o'clock!
1268
01:01:47,286 --> 01:01:49,080
-[Nick L.] Congrats, guys.
-Thank you.
1269
01:01:50,289 --> 01:01:51,874
Thank you guys so much.
1270
01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:53,501
Thank you, thank you.
1271
01:01:54,669 --> 01:01:56,003
-A bit of comfort.
-Yeah.
1272
01:01:58,423 --> 01:02:00,717
-And good news after that.
-No, seriously.
1273
01:02:01,676 --> 01:02:04,595
[indistinct chatter]
1274
01:02:05,972 --> 01:02:08,224
-Thank you. You look amazing.
-Thank you.
1275
01:02:08,307 --> 01:02:11,644
[upbeat music]