1 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:08,008 [pop music playing] 2 00:00:09,926 --> 00:00:12,220 -[machine beeps] -[indistinct chattering] 3 00:00:16,182 --> 00:00:17,934 -[Nick] Can you hear me? -[Vanessa] I got you. 4 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:20,854 -Is this how they hear each other? -What a trip. 5 00:00:20,937 --> 00:00:23,898 If we went to a music festival, would I be able to carry you on my shoulder? 6 00:00:23,982 --> 00:00:26,693 [laughing] 7 00:00:26,776 --> 00:00:29,320 -No! Now you had me give you my laugh. -[Nick laughs] 8 00:00:29,404 --> 00:00:32,198 [Vanessa] And if we were in a pod, you would have... 9 00:00:32,282 --> 00:00:33,199 [laughing] 10 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:36,494 I mean, if all I heard was that voice, I would definitely wanna boink you. 11 00:00:36,578 --> 00:00:38,747 [laughing] 12 00:00:38,830 --> 00:00:40,999 -Oh, my gosh, just on my voice? -[laughs] 13 00:00:41,082 --> 00:00:43,835 -Just on your voice. -Okay. See if I can change my voice. 14 00:00:44,586 --> 00:00:46,880 -Hello. -It sounds like you're trying too hard. 15 00:00:46,963 --> 00:00:48,757 -[Vanessa] Hey, babe. -Yeah, that's good. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,633 -[laughs] -I'm definitely into it. 17 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:53,720 -I've got my reunion dress on. -The one with the sequins? 18 00:00:53,803 --> 00:00:56,389 -[Vanessa] Yes, the one with the sequins. -[laughs] 19 00:00:56,473 --> 00:00:58,141 -Should we tell them? -[Nick] Yeah. 20 00:00:59,142 --> 00:01:01,269 -Let's tell them about the reunion. Ready? -Yes! 21 00:01:01,352 --> 00:01:03,104 -I am. I'll see you out there. -[Nick] Do it! 22 00:01:05,231 --> 00:01:08,526 This season for the first time ever, the Love Is Blind reunion 23 00:01:08,610 --> 00:01:12,030 is coming at you from the actual stage of Love Is Blind. 24 00:01:12,947 --> 00:01:14,824 That's right. We got more behind-the-scenes, 25 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:17,535 more guests and more surprises than ever before. 26 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:20,205 Hey, ladies, you almost ready? 27 00:01:20,288 --> 00:01:22,207 -Vanessa! -We were born ready. 28 00:01:22,290 --> 00:01:24,626 The better question is, are they ready? 29 00:01:24,709 --> 00:01:28,463 -[Johnny] Who would have thought? -What's up, fellas? How's it feeling? 30 00:01:28,546 --> 00:01:29,380 Go easy on us, Nick. 31 00:01:29,464 --> 00:01:31,382 [laughing] 32 00:01:31,466 --> 00:01:34,135 That's right. All of your favorites from the season six pods 33 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:37,055 will be returning today, but that's not all. 34 00:01:39,516 --> 00:01:40,683 Oops! Sorry. 35 00:01:42,143 --> 00:01:44,854 -We should put locks on these doors. -[Brennon] This is our pod! 36 00:01:44,938 --> 00:01:45,980 For the first time ever, 37 00:01:46,064 --> 00:01:49,692 we'll also be joined by several former Love Is Blind participants. 38 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:54,948 -Hey, Brett, Tiffany. -Hey, Nick. [chuckles] 39 00:01:55,031 --> 00:01:56,407 Some things never change. 40 00:01:56,491 --> 00:01:57,784 -Well, we're ready for you. -Okay. 41 00:01:57,867 --> 00:01:58,910 Be there in a second. 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,123 Well, I know we've all got a lot of questions for everyone here. 43 00:02:03,206 --> 00:02:05,291 So I say, let's go ahead and get to it. 44 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:08,044 I can't wait, but first, come on with me. 45 00:02:08,628 --> 00:02:10,922 There's something I've always wanted to do. 46 00:02:11,005 --> 00:02:12,674 Come on, guys, I gotta show you! 47 00:02:13,591 --> 00:02:14,676 -Hey, there. -Hello. 48 00:02:15,176 --> 00:02:18,680 [Nick exhales] I'm excited for this. This is gonna be good. 49 00:02:18,763 --> 00:02:20,890 [Vanessa laughs] Whoo! 50 00:02:21,391 --> 00:02:22,809 [exhales] So nervous. 51 00:02:23,476 --> 00:02:26,563 It's exciting. Okay, I can't wait to get out there. Let's do this! 52 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:28,398 Let's go! Let's go! 53 00:02:30,859 --> 00:02:32,652 [laughing] 54 00:02:33,736 --> 00:02:35,738 -[cheering] -[Vanessa] Hi, everybody! 55 00:02:35,822 --> 00:02:37,490 [pop music playing] 56 00:02:37,574 --> 00:02:38,533 [Nick] What's up? 57 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:41,703 Hi! 58 00:02:42,704 --> 00:02:43,955 Oh, my gosh! 59 00:02:44,664 --> 00:02:45,582 [speaks indistinctly] 60 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:46,875 -[laughs] Hey! -Hi! 61 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:48,459 Hi. 62 00:02:49,711 --> 00:02:51,504 -Hello! -[Nick] Welcome, guys! 63 00:02:51,588 --> 00:02:55,717 {\an8}Welcome, everyone, to the Love Is Blind reunion! 64 00:02:56,926 --> 00:02:57,760 Wow! 65 00:02:58,928 --> 00:03:01,890 What do you think? Should we bring our friends from season six out here? 66 00:03:02,432 --> 00:03:04,893 -[cheering] -Yeah? You guys sure? 67 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:07,645 -Yes. -All right! Come on out, guys! 68 00:03:07,729 --> 00:03:09,772 [woman] Oh! Oh! 69 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,983 [all cheering] 70 00:03:12,066 --> 00:03:13,067 [pop music playing] 71 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:15,153 -[woman 2] Yeah! -[woman 3] Oh, my God! 72 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:19,616 [woman 4] Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Whoo! 73 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:21,534 [woman 5] Oh, my God! 74 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:26,664 [woman 6] Oh, my God! 75 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:30,168 -Whoo! -[woman 7] Whoo! 76 00:03:30,251 --> 00:03:31,544 Whoo! 77 00:03:31,628 --> 00:03:33,880 -[laughing] -[cheering] 78 00:03:38,593 --> 00:03:39,594 Welcome, everyone. 79 00:03:39,677 --> 00:03:41,804 Thank you so much for joining us here today. 80 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:45,600 We're so excited to have you guys and to see some familiar faces. 81 00:03:45,683 --> 00:03:47,060 -[Nick] Yeah! -Yes. Hi, everyone. 82 00:03:47,894 --> 00:03:50,355 Welcome, guys. Good to see everybody. 83 00:03:50,855 --> 00:03:52,732 {\an8}[Vanessa] We're gonna catch up with you in a bit, 84 00:03:52,815 --> 00:03:56,110 because two of you have a very big announcement to share. 85 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:59,739 {\an8}-Don't worry. We'll get to that later on. -[Nick] Oh, yes! 86 00:03:59,822 --> 00:04:02,367 Everybody, get your EpiPens ready. 87 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:03,493 [laughing] 88 00:04:03,576 --> 00:04:06,871 {\an8}Get 'em ready. Thank you, Jessica, for that one. [Nick laughs] 89 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:09,958 {\an8}You are gonna be in disbelief over what we have in store for you tonight. 90 00:04:10,041 --> 00:04:11,459 And don't worry, we'll be addressing 91 00:04:11,542 --> 00:04:15,380 {\an8}every single scandal that has been gripping you over the past few weeks. 92 00:04:15,463 --> 00:04:17,799 {\an8}So what do you guys say we get this started? Are you ready? 93 00:04:17,882 --> 00:04:19,050 [cheering] 94 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:21,636 [Nick] All right. 95 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:24,639 AD, help me out on this one. 96 00:04:24,722 --> 00:04:26,808 -Pick a number between one and 15. -Four. 97 00:04:26,891 --> 00:04:29,185 {\an8}-Four? -[Vanessa] Four's already been asked. 98 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:30,770 -[Nick] No. -[Vanessa] We are teasing. 99 00:04:30,853 --> 00:04:33,898 What color are your nails? Are you not painting them red anymore? 100 00:04:33,982 --> 00:04:36,526 Listen, no red flags over here. 101 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:39,237 -[Nick] Okay. At least not tonight. -No red flags. Not right now. 102 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,031 [Nick] Well, we have lots of questions, of course, for AD to come, 103 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:44,367 including what happened with Clay after the altar, 104 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:47,537 and has she met up with Clark Kent? Oh! 105 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:49,956 {\an8}[Vanessa] Also, I can't wait to see the receipts 106 00:04:50,039 --> 00:04:53,793 {\an8}of Matthew's dates with AD and Amber, 107 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:57,755 and did he really say the same thing to both of them? 108 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,759 [Nick laughs] But first, let's check in with our season six lovebirds, 109 00:05:01,843 --> 00:05:04,095 Johnny and Amy. 110 00:05:04,178 --> 00:05:07,181 -How are you guys? -[cheering] 111 00:05:07,265 --> 00:05:08,224 [Johnny] We're good. 112 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,935 {\an8}-[Vanessa] Doing good? -[Nick] Well, you look fantastic tonight. 113 00:05:11,019 --> 00:05:12,895 {\an8}-Look at her, she looks great! -[laughs] 114 00:05:12,979 --> 00:05:15,106 {\an8}-And he looks sexy. -[Vanessa] Both of you guys. 115 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:16,607 Your wedding was so touching. 116 00:05:16,691 --> 00:05:20,153 It was a moment that Nick and I... we were laying in bed watching it. 117 00:05:20,236 --> 00:05:21,362 When you were standing there 118 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:24,490 before you walked down the aisle with your dad and your brother, 119 00:05:24,574 --> 00:05:27,076 I was getting choked up, but I looked over and he... 120 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,786 Tears are coming down his face. 121 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:31,080 We love how important family is to you guys, 122 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:34,417 and we just wanna know, to this day, are your families still close? 123 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:36,794 Do you still do things together with each other's families? 124 00:05:36,878 --> 00:05:39,547 Oh, yeah. Our families talk all the time. 125 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:41,549 I mean, my dad calls his dad all the time. 126 00:05:41,632 --> 00:05:45,094 We've traveled together. We've gone to visit his family. 127 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:47,347 We went to France with my family together. 128 00:05:47,430 --> 00:05:50,933 {\an8}-Christmas, we spent that in Charlotte. -With my family. 129 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,018 We got some photos. 130 00:05:52,101 --> 00:05:53,269 -[Amy laughs] -[Johnny] Yeah. 131 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:54,812 [Vanessa] Christmas in Charlotte. 132 00:05:54,896 --> 00:05:56,272 Oh, my gosh! 133 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:59,192 -That's a real family photo! -[Nick] I like the pigtails, buddy. 134 00:05:59,275 --> 00:06:03,196 The JCPenney photoshoot was probably one of the best things ever. 135 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,405 -It was iconic. -Um... 136 00:06:04,489 --> 00:06:06,157 Definitely recommend everyone does that. 137 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,701 And try to get in the most awkward positions as possible. 138 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:11,079 [Amy] I know it looks like we worship our men. 139 00:06:11,162 --> 00:06:14,707 -But in reality, they are worshiping us. -[laughing] 140 00:06:14,791 --> 00:06:18,419 -[Amy] They worship the ground we walk on. -[Nick] Not your average family photos. 141 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:20,838 You know, guys, it's really what family's all about, right? 142 00:06:20,922 --> 00:06:24,008 Family fun, those are the memories that you're gonna hang onto forever. 143 00:06:24,092 --> 00:06:26,886 You guys continue to show why you are absolutely perfect for one another. 144 00:06:26,969 --> 00:06:30,598 So congrats again on your marriage. Great to see you guys. 145 00:06:30,681 --> 00:06:31,516 Thank you so much. 146 00:06:31,599 --> 00:06:35,561 Stories like yours are the heart of this life-changing experience. 147 00:06:35,645 --> 00:06:37,397 Now over the past six seasons, 148 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,859 we have had the unique pleasure of watching so many hopeful singles 149 00:06:41,943 --> 00:06:44,028 meet their spouses from behind a wall. 150 00:06:44,112 --> 00:06:47,990 [Nick] Eleven couples have ended the experiment by choosing to say "I do," 151 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:51,244 and nine of those couples are still married to this very day. 152 00:06:51,327 --> 00:06:53,746 Honestly, that's a pretty extraordinary number. 153 00:06:54,330 --> 00:06:55,331 Really, really cool. 154 00:06:57,041 --> 00:06:59,127 So tonight, we are thrilled to catch up 155 00:06:59,210 --> 00:07:01,712 with some of the Love Is Blind family right here in person, 156 00:07:01,796 --> 00:07:05,508 but first we wanna take a quick look back at their love journeys. 157 00:07:05,591 --> 00:07:06,717 Aww! 158 00:07:07,718 --> 00:07:09,887 [Nick] Welcome to Love Is Blind! 159 00:07:09,971 --> 00:07:12,223 -[cheering] -[laughing] 160 00:07:13,141 --> 00:07:14,142 -[woman 8] Hello. -Cameron. 161 00:07:14,225 --> 00:07:16,936 -[woman 9] Can you see anything? -What are you looking at? 162 00:07:17,019 --> 00:07:18,563 It looks like a scene from Frozen. 163 00:07:18,646 --> 00:07:20,940 -My name is Micah. -Best voice I've heard so far! 164 00:07:21,023 --> 00:07:21,983 [laughing] 165 00:07:22,066 --> 00:07:24,444 {\an8}[Chelsea 1] I love our beautiful slow rumble roll. 166 00:07:24,527 --> 00:07:27,697 {\an8}It has been one of the most beautiful things I've ever been a part of 167 00:07:27,780 --> 00:07:28,823 {\an8}and been witness to. 168 00:07:28,906 --> 00:07:30,491 {\an8}-You're cute. -[Chelsea 1] Beautiful. 169 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:31,909 {\an8}[both laughing] 170 00:07:31,993 --> 00:07:35,413 {\an8}I wanted you to know, I'm completely in love with you. 171 00:07:35,496 --> 00:07:37,415 {\an8}[laughs] 172 00:07:37,498 --> 00:07:40,001 {\an8}Like, you're 100% my lobster. You're my person. 173 00:07:40,835 --> 00:07:42,003 I love you too. 174 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:44,380 Never in a million years 175 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:47,049 did I think I was gonna find love out of this. 176 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:48,259 Will you marry me? 177 00:07:48,342 --> 00:07:51,429 {\an8}Oh, my God. Yes. I will be your wife. 178 00:07:51,512 --> 00:07:54,849 {\an8}[Zack] I believe there is nobody in this world who I'm meant to be with... 179 00:07:54,932 --> 00:07:56,434 -[shouts] -[Zack] ...more than you. 180 00:07:56,517 --> 00:07:57,977 -Will you marry me? -Yeah. 181 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:00,062 ♪ Me and you... ♪ 182 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:02,482 [laughing] 183 00:08:02,565 --> 00:08:03,816 {\an8}♪ Me and you... ♪ 184 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:04,901 {\an8}Oh, my God! 185 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:07,445 {\an8}-[Johnny] We were cute together. -[Amy] Yeah. 186 00:08:08,446 --> 00:08:09,739 {\an8}[laughing] You're so tall! 187 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:12,658 [singer vocalizing] 188 00:08:13,910 --> 00:08:16,287 [woman 10] He is one of the best people I've met in my life. 189 00:08:16,370 --> 00:08:18,331 {\an8}-You're really lucky, Brett. -I love you. 190 00:08:18,414 --> 00:08:21,542 {\an8}-[woman 11] You're getting married! -[woman 12] They're so cute! 191 00:08:21,626 --> 00:08:23,211 {\an8}[women cheering] 192 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:25,922 [Chelsea 1 sniffles] I can just see myself walking down the aisle 193 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:28,508 to my husband in this dress. 194 00:08:28,591 --> 00:08:30,301 -[Zack] I love you so much, Bliss. -[laughs] 195 00:08:31,594 --> 00:08:32,553 I do. 196 00:08:32,637 --> 00:08:33,554 I do. 197 00:08:33,638 --> 00:08:36,974 I now pronounce you married! 198 00:08:37,058 --> 00:08:40,102 -[laughing] -[crowd cheering] 199 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:44,899 {\an8}[both] We are married! 200 00:08:44,982 --> 00:08:46,234 {\an8}[shouts] 201 00:08:46,317 --> 00:08:49,028 {\an8}Lick it off. [shouts] 202 00:08:49,111 --> 00:08:52,532 {\an8}-You're my husband. How does that feel? -Amazing. 203 00:08:53,824 --> 00:08:54,951 {\an8}I love you so much. 204 00:08:55,952 --> 00:08:57,328 {\an8}I love you so much too. 205 00:08:58,663 --> 00:08:59,747 {\an8}[laughs] 206 00:09:00,831 --> 00:09:02,458 [cheering] 207 00:09:07,088 --> 00:09:08,631 ♪ Me and you ♪ 208 00:09:10,466 --> 00:09:11,634 [Nick] Yeah! 209 00:09:13,302 --> 00:09:16,097 {\an8}-Awesome. -Welcome, everyone. Kwame and Chelsea. 210 00:09:16,180 --> 00:09:17,306 {\an8}[all cheering] 211 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:18,849 {\an8}[Vanessa] Tiffany and Brett. 212 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:20,768 {\an8}Colleen and Matt. 213 00:09:21,352 --> 00:09:22,728 {\an8}Alexa and Brennon. 214 00:09:23,688 --> 00:09:25,648 Plus Micah, Izzy and Gigi! 215 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:27,650 -[cheering] -[laughing] 216 00:09:28,901 --> 00:09:30,736 -Yes, Gigi! -[Gigi] Yeah! 217 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:32,780 Great to see you. First off, congratulations. 218 00:09:32,863 --> 00:09:34,865 {\an8}-Oh, thank you, darling. -[Nick] Very much in order. 219 00:09:34,949 --> 00:09:38,661 {\an8}-I look different since you last saw me. -[Nick] You look beautiful. 220 00:09:38,744 --> 00:09:40,246 Introduce us to your man here. 221 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:44,000 {\an8}Yeah, so this is my partner and the father of my baby. 222 00:09:44,083 --> 00:09:45,418 {\an8}-[laughs] -Blake Horstmann. 223 00:09:45,501 --> 00:09:47,420 {\an8}-Say hi to Love Is Blind, Blake. -Hello, everyone. 224 00:09:47,503 --> 00:09:49,672 {\an8}-[Nick] What's up, Blake? -Good to be here. [laughs] 225 00:09:49,755 --> 00:09:50,840 It's good to have you here. 226 00:09:50,923 --> 00:09:53,634 So you guys are expecting a baby boy. Is that right? 227 00:09:53,718 --> 00:09:56,679 A baby boy. I'm hoping it looks just like him. 228 00:09:56,762 --> 00:09:57,597 [Chelsea 1] Aww! 229 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,265 I don't think you could go wrong. 230 00:09:59,348 --> 00:10:00,182 Oh, thank you. 231 00:10:00,266 --> 00:10:02,310 [Nick] Is there a name that you guys have picked out 232 00:10:02,393 --> 00:10:04,812 that you feel comfortable sharing with us today? 233 00:10:05,313 --> 00:10:07,690 So, we're waiting until he pops out. 234 00:10:07,773 --> 00:10:09,525 And I don't know if he's gonna be 235 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:12,737 a little, like, fair skin and blue-eyed like him 236 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:14,071 or a little bit spicier like me. 237 00:10:14,155 --> 00:10:16,240 So I just wanna see what he looks like. 238 00:10:16,324 --> 00:10:19,994 I mean, a lot of things already have his name on it, like my bracelet. 239 00:10:20,077 --> 00:10:22,538 -So I'm hoping that this is the one. -[laughs] 240 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:26,959 Is the bracelet with his name on it the spicy name or the Blake name? 241 00:10:27,043 --> 00:10:28,419 -The Blake name. -[laughing] 242 00:10:30,421 --> 00:10:34,091 We're so happy for your love and that you found your person. 243 00:10:34,175 --> 00:10:36,510 I actually had Perfect Match lined up. 244 00:10:37,053 --> 00:10:38,220 I was gonna hang out with you. 245 00:10:38,304 --> 00:10:42,600 And I ended up just falling in love and not doing that. 246 00:10:42,683 --> 00:10:45,728 So it's been a journey. It's been a different path. 247 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:47,229 But it all started here. 248 00:10:47,938 --> 00:10:48,981 [Vanessa] Yeah! 249 00:10:49,065 --> 00:10:51,317 Perfect Match's loss is certainly Blake's gain. 250 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,778 -Amen, amen, amen. -[Nick] You guys are a stunning couple. 251 00:10:53,861 --> 00:10:56,030 -So congrats again. -Thank you, guys. 252 00:10:56,113 --> 00:10:58,282 -Thank you for sharing. -Absolutely. 253 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:00,534 Wouldn't have happened without this mess. 254 00:11:00,618 --> 00:11:03,204 -[Vanessa] Yeah. Well, let's get into it. -So let's get into it. 255 00:11:03,287 --> 00:11:04,538 [Nick] Let's move on 256 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:07,708 to someone who had a little trouble deciding on their person. 257 00:11:07,792 --> 00:11:10,419 {\an8}Jeramey, aloha. 258 00:11:10,503 --> 00:11:12,463 {\an8}-How's it going? -[Nick] Digging the shirt. 259 00:11:12,546 --> 00:11:14,173 -[Jeramey] Yeah. -[Nick] I live in Hawaii. 260 00:11:14,256 --> 00:11:16,467 So I can say "aloha" and not feel bad about it. 261 00:11:16,550 --> 00:11:18,636 I figured we'd go full send on this. 262 00:11:18,719 --> 00:11:20,971 [Nick] It's been a year since you and Laura ended things. 263 00:11:21,055 --> 00:11:24,350 So how is your love life today? Are you seeing anyone? 264 00:11:24,433 --> 00:11:27,520 Uh, it's been going well, and yes, I am seeing someone. 265 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:30,856 Funny you should mention that. She actually is here today. 266 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:33,943 -Guys, should we bring her out? -[all] Yes. 267 00:11:34,026 --> 00:11:37,071 The current flame in Jeramey's life? Let's bring her on out. 268 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:38,906 Oh, my God. 269 00:11:39,573 --> 00:11:43,703 [Nick] Let's please welcome Sarah Ann to the show. 270 00:11:43,786 --> 00:11:45,538 [pop music playing] 271 00:11:47,331 --> 00:11:48,457 {\an8}[woman 13] Oh, not the kiss. 272 00:11:49,750 --> 00:11:51,669 -[Nick] Right. -[woman 14] Awkward! 273 00:11:51,752 --> 00:11:52,920 [laughing] 274 00:11:53,003 --> 00:11:54,880 -[Vanessa] Hi, Sarah Ann. -[Sarah Ann] Hello. 275 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:56,132 [chuckles] 276 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:59,760 Have you been together ever since you rode off into the sunset on jet skis? 277 00:11:59,844 --> 00:12:01,303 We have, yeah. 278 00:12:01,387 --> 00:12:02,888 We've been dating for 279 00:12:02,972 --> 00:12:04,348 almost a year now. 280 00:12:04,432 --> 00:12:06,517 -We live together. -[Vanessa] You live together. 281 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,685 [Nick] Okay. 282 00:12:07,768 --> 00:12:12,064 [Vanessa] All right, well, we have lots of questions for you two, but first, 283 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:14,400 Laura has shared her location with us. 284 00:12:14,984 --> 00:12:18,529 [laughing] 285 00:12:18,612 --> 00:12:21,240 [Vanessa] She is in Barcelona, Spain, for work. 286 00:12:21,824 --> 00:12:23,951 -But we actually have her on Zoom. -[all] Aww! 287 00:12:24,034 --> 00:12:27,204 -So, please welcome Laura! -[all cheering] 288 00:12:27,288 --> 00:12:28,497 -[Nick] Laura! -Do we clap? 289 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,332 -Hmm? -Do we clap? [chuckles] 290 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:31,250 No. 291 00:12:34,503 --> 00:12:36,756 {\an8}[Nick] How have you been? How are you? Everything good? 292 00:12:37,339 --> 00:12:38,549 I'm good. Yeah, all good. 293 00:12:38,632 --> 00:12:42,219 Wish so badly I could be there in person, but work always comes first. 294 00:12:42,803 --> 00:12:46,140 So, Jeramey, we're sitting here with one woman you've been engaged to, 295 00:12:46,223 --> 00:12:49,685 one woman you're currently living with, and sounds like have been for a while. 296 00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:52,730 Yet, there's a third woman whose mother went on social media 297 00:12:52,813 --> 00:12:55,024 and said that you two were actually engaged 298 00:12:55,107 --> 00:12:57,651 while you were applying for this experiment. 299 00:12:57,735 --> 00:13:00,738 So, what do you have to say about that claim? 300 00:13:00,821 --> 00:13:05,159 {\an8}Uh, yeah, I can actually address that one pretty directly. 301 00:13:05,242 --> 00:13:06,702 {\an8}It's not true. 302 00:13:06,786 --> 00:13:10,498 {\an8}So, what had happened is, yes, I was previously engaged. 303 00:13:10,581 --> 00:13:12,917 Everybody I dated was well aware of that. 304 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,128 Um, I had mentioned, yes, sold my house. 305 00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:21,133 And I did go ahead and apply after I was out on my own, doing my own thing. 306 00:13:21,217 --> 00:13:24,220 Got approached to do it and decided to move forward at that point. 307 00:13:24,303 --> 00:13:25,429 [Nick] Okay. 308 00:13:25,513 --> 00:13:27,431 So, Laura, how does that sound to you? 309 00:13:27,515 --> 00:13:31,018 {\an8}Um, in the pods, he did mention that he had a fiancée before. 310 00:13:31,101 --> 00:13:34,021 {\an8}-[Vanessa] Did he mention one to you? -Yeah. 311 00:13:34,104 --> 00:13:39,693 {\an8}Well, there's another burning question directed to Jeramey that we wanna know. 312 00:13:39,777 --> 00:13:42,238 Why did you lie about your location 313 00:13:42,321 --> 00:13:44,740 after you shared it with Laura? 314 00:13:44,824 --> 00:13:49,745 Like, did you not think that the little button would continue to move... 315 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:51,372 [laughing] 316 00:13:51,455 --> 00:13:52,456 ...and follow you? 317 00:13:52,540 --> 00:13:55,835 Did you leave it in your car and you had an Apple Watch? Like, what is... 318 00:13:56,335 --> 00:13:59,046 Okay. No, I can address that too. 319 00:13:59,129 --> 00:14:01,465 I shared my location before I left the house. 320 00:14:01,549 --> 00:14:05,344 Nothing inappropriate happened. We did hang back and continue to talk afterwards. 321 00:14:05,427 --> 00:14:08,556 The only time I was ever at Sarah Ann's house is when I went to go drop her off. 322 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:10,099 [Vanessa] But the question was just, 323 00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:12,893 "Why would you leave your location on and then lie about it?" 324 00:14:12,977 --> 00:14:14,144 [laughing] 325 00:14:14,228 --> 00:14:18,190 Uh, I don't... I... I didn't intentionally lie about that. 326 00:14:18,274 --> 00:14:20,025 I did share my location. 327 00:14:20,109 --> 00:14:22,361 -[Vanessa] Then forget? -[Jeramey] No. 328 00:14:23,737 --> 00:14:25,948 Honestly, I'm convinced that had I not woken up, 329 00:14:26,031 --> 00:14:27,908 he never would have admitted 330 00:14:27,992 --> 00:14:30,619 talking to her or going to her house, in any way shape or form. 331 00:14:31,328 --> 00:14:34,498 Sarah Ann was actually telling other people the exact same lie. 332 00:14:34,582 --> 00:14:37,167 They corroborated together that they never left the parking lot. 333 00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:41,797 So, to clarify, when I got back to the townhouse, Laura was asleep. 334 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:44,091 I stayed downstairs until I heard her getting up, 335 00:14:44,174 --> 00:14:45,926 and then instantly went up the stairs 336 00:14:46,010 --> 00:14:49,263 to tell her Sarah Ann and I had had a conversation. "Here's what happened." 337 00:14:49,346 --> 00:14:50,723 That's not true. 338 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:53,642 {\an8}Once I saw his car get on the highway, 339 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:56,562 {\an8}I heard him come home and purposely stay in the living room. 340 00:14:56,645 --> 00:14:59,148 Which let's just all call that for what it is. 341 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:02,484 Um, I then woke up at 9:30, ten o'clock. 342 00:15:02,568 --> 00:15:05,029 He came in. He was kind of stumbling around his words. 343 00:15:05,112 --> 00:15:07,907 So I was, like, "Where were you?" He wouldn't answer straight up. 344 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:09,909 And I just knew. I knew he had seen her. 345 00:15:09,992 --> 00:15:12,161 And, I mean, I freaked out. 346 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:16,665 For him to go meet her behind my back, I just knew it was sketchy. 347 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:18,959 You were not waiting for me when I got home. 348 00:15:19,043 --> 00:15:21,337 I came upstairs. I told you what happened. 349 00:15:22,212 --> 00:15:24,465 -I'll admit my fault on the other part... -[Laura] True. 350 00:15:24,548 --> 00:15:25,925 I didn't say I was waiting up. 351 00:15:26,008 --> 00:15:29,887 I should've been on the front porch waiting for your ass at 6:00 a.m. 352 00:15:29,970 --> 00:15:32,264 -You said I was laying in my bed. -[cheering] 353 00:15:32,348 --> 00:15:34,266 {\an8}[Laura continues indistinctly] 354 00:15:34,350 --> 00:15:36,435 {\an8}[Jeramey] I'll take my lumps for what I actually did, 355 00:15:36,518 --> 00:15:39,563 {\an8}but I'm not gonna have it continue to be painted to be worse than that. 356 00:15:39,647 --> 00:15:43,233 -I'm not gonna do that. I'll own that. -You've never taken accountability. 357 00:15:43,317 --> 00:15:46,320 You've never taken accountability. You've never, like, flat-out apologized. 358 00:15:46,403 --> 00:15:47,404 You're a clown. 359 00:15:47,488 --> 00:15:50,658 -You're sitting there, lie after lie. -I never apologized? 360 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:53,118 {\an8}You should relax, calling someone a clown 361 00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:56,956 {\an8}when you told him shit about me in the pods the entire time, 362 00:15:57,039 --> 00:15:58,624 {\an8}saying that I'm a pick-me girl? 363 00:15:58,707 --> 00:16:00,000 You're the pick-me girl. 364 00:16:00,084 --> 00:16:02,503 -You're the pick-me! -You're the pick-me! Don't start. 365 00:16:02,586 --> 00:16:04,672 You saw me crying with my heart broken. 366 00:16:04,755 --> 00:16:07,841 -[Jessica] I'll have my moment! -You saw me crying with my heart broken. 367 00:16:07,925 --> 00:16:09,635 Are you happy with the way it turned out? 368 00:16:09,718 --> 00:16:12,680 {\an8}-Yes, I'm very happy. -Just like you said you would. 369 00:16:12,763 --> 00:16:14,807 {\an8}-Okay, let's let it go. -Like you said you would. 370 00:16:15,516 --> 00:16:17,434 -[Laura] You are a pick-me girl. -[Nick] Okay! 371 00:16:17,518 --> 00:16:19,895 -You're not a girl's girl ever. -Just let it go. 372 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:21,397 [Nick] Jeramey continues to maintain 373 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,233 that he was just talking with Sarah Ann until 5:00 in the morning. 374 00:16:24,316 --> 00:16:27,444 I'm curious to hear what you all think. Are you buying that story? 375 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,572 -I got enough on my plate. -[laughing] 376 00:16:31,198 --> 00:16:32,116 That's Jeramey. 377 00:16:32,199 --> 00:16:35,035 -[Nick] Trying to stay out of the way? -I'mma just sit here. 378 00:16:35,119 --> 00:16:38,247 {\an8}I've never stayed up till 5:00 a.m. just chatting. 379 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:41,000 {\an8}[Sarah Ann] You saw me staying out and getting walked out on by Matt. 380 00:16:41,083 --> 00:16:43,585 Is it that shocking that I was talking till 5:00 in the morning? 381 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:45,170 Everybody knows I can talk. 382 00:16:45,671 --> 00:16:47,131 It's not that shocking. 383 00:16:47,214 --> 00:16:50,050 -He was never invited into my house. -[Vanessa] Sarah Ann. Sarah Ann. 384 00:16:50,718 --> 00:16:51,760 Did y'all kiss? 385 00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:53,804 No, absolutely not. 386 00:16:53,887 --> 00:16:55,431 -No. -[Vanessa] Okay. 387 00:16:55,514 --> 00:16:57,516 [Nick] So, Laura, what do you think hearing this? 388 00:16:57,599 --> 00:16:59,810 They continue to maintain they just talked till 5:00 a.m. 389 00:17:00,728 --> 00:17:03,897 -What are your thoughts? -I don't care what they did till 5:00 a.m. 390 00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,066 -I think they're both disgusting. -[laughing] 391 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:08,235 -[Vanessa] She said they're what? -[Nick] Disgusting. 392 00:17:08,318 --> 00:17:12,906 When do you think you started to question if Jeramey was really the one for you? 393 00:17:13,449 --> 00:17:16,118 [Laura] I mean, sure, I started having my doubts. 394 00:17:16,201 --> 00:17:18,287 You know, we started bumping heads a little, 395 00:17:18,370 --> 00:17:21,498 {\an8}but at no point was I thinking, "I'm not gonna get married." 396 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,168 {\an8}Jeramey and I literally every day had a check-in with each other 397 00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:26,795 {\an8}on what our percentages are, whether we're 80%, 398 00:17:26,879 --> 00:17:28,839 eight out of ten, 85% gonna get married. 399 00:17:28,922 --> 00:17:31,341 And it never dropped below that. 400 00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:34,261 So to go from spending all day with my family 401 00:17:34,344 --> 00:17:36,096 and then to disrespecting me, 402 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:39,725 staying out with another woman till 6:00 a.m. the same night? 403 00:17:39,808 --> 00:17:41,518 He had told her that night 404 00:17:41,602 --> 00:17:44,104 when they stayed out together that he was gonna break up with me. 405 00:17:44,188 --> 00:17:47,775 So he spent all day with my family, all day telling me how much he loved me, 406 00:17:47,858 --> 00:17:49,860 kissed me goodbye as he went to the bar. 407 00:17:49,943 --> 00:17:53,322 Went out that night, met up with Sarah Ann, talked to her. 408 00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:55,282 The conversation was so good 409 00:17:55,365 --> 00:17:57,910 that he decided he just had to end his relationship right then. 410 00:17:57,993 --> 00:17:59,828 [Jeramey] I know what you're referring to. 411 00:17:59,912 --> 00:18:02,289 -[Laura] That's what your girlfriend said. -Exactly. 412 00:18:02,372 --> 00:18:05,959 {\an8}[Nick] So, Sarah, DMing Jeremy coming out of the pods 413 00:18:06,043 --> 00:18:09,505 was obviously somewhat of a controversial move this season. 414 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,133 We actually have some never-before-seen footage of you and Laura 415 00:18:13,217 --> 00:18:16,678 speaking about it at the lake party. Let's take a look at that clip. 416 00:18:16,762 --> 00:18:17,763 [Sarah Ann] I'm here 417 00:18:18,639 --> 00:18:22,434 to take everything, and I want you to unload it on me and give me... 418 00:18:22,518 --> 00:18:26,396 No, seriously, I really do, because I think you deserve that. 419 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,607 I do wanna talk to you about the message that I sent, 420 00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:32,236 because I know that that came across so disrespectful to you. 421 00:18:32,903 --> 00:18:36,949 {\an8}And I am sorry if I hurt you in any way. I really am. 422 00:18:37,032 --> 00:18:41,036 {\an8}Because I don't want you to think that I came to ruin your relationship. 423 00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:42,996 {\an8}I was just very... 424 00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:45,791 {\an8}I didn't get off my chest what I needed to. 425 00:18:45,874 --> 00:18:48,001 {\an8}-Yeah. -He obviously was saying things to me. 426 00:18:48,085 --> 00:18:50,629 {\an8}"I've only told you this" and blasé blah and whatever. 427 00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:53,090 {\an8}Like, I needed closure, but I didn't know how to do that. 428 00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:56,301 {\an8}And then I thought, if they're not married just yet, 429 00:18:56,385 --> 00:18:57,761 should I just send the message now? 430 00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:00,806 I'm not gonna lie. I was in the real world while you guys were there, 431 00:19:00,889 --> 00:19:03,267 and I was kind of heartbroken, and I was just, like, 432 00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:06,061 "I'm gonna send it and get it off my chest and move on." 433 00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:08,730 {\an8}That's really what the intent was, and I hope you know that. 434 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,692 {\an8}And the whole, like, "If anything changes let me know." 435 00:19:11,775 --> 00:19:14,278 {\an8}Like, I was, like, "You know, hey, if it does change, 436 00:19:14,361 --> 00:19:16,947 {\an8}I want you to know I would love the opportunity to get to know you." 437 00:19:17,030 --> 00:19:18,866 {\an8}-I know you read the message. -Yeah, yeah. 438 00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:21,785 {\an8}I didn't send the message going, "I hope she doesn't see this." 439 00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:25,122 {\an8}I sent it thinking, "That's his fiancée. They're probably both gonna react." 440 00:19:25,205 --> 00:19:27,916 {\an8}And I thought what I knew about you, 'cause I adore you. 441 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,377 {\an8}I was thinking, "Laura is a grown, strong woman." 442 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:31,503 {\an8}She's gonna be like, 443 00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:34,423 {\an8}"I'm in this situation, and that's valid for her, but I still have him." 444 00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:36,717 {\an8}I thought about it differently, and I shouldn't have. 445 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,719 {\an8}And I assumed, and I'm sorry. 446 00:19:39,219 --> 00:19:42,431 {\an8}You're fine. No, I really, like, appreciate you even bringing it up. 447 00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:44,266 Do I think the message was disrespectful? 448 00:19:44,349 --> 00:19:46,685 I do. I did. I was like, as a woman-to-woman... 449 00:19:46,768 --> 00:19:50,272 But I was like, at the end of the day, he made the commitment to me, not her. 450 00:19:50,355 --> 00:19:51,565 He got down on one knee. 451 00:19:51,648 --> 00:19:54,693 He said he chose me. He was gonna protect my heart forever. 452 00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:55,652 Right. 453 00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:56,695 And that was it. 454 00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,739 And I remember asking him when he did. I was like, 455 00:19:58,822 --> 00:20:00,908 "Is there a world where, like, I turned you down 456 00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:03,493 or I went another road to where you proposed to Sarah Ann?" 457 00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,495 And he said, "Absolutely not." 458 00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:09,708 But, babe, the way that he's handled himself since then. 459 00:20:09,791 --> 00:20:11,335 {\an8}-I don't believe him. -Really? 460 00:20:11,418 --> 00:20:13,045 {\an8}I don't believe a single word he says. 461 00:20:13,128 --> 00:20:17,925 {\an8}I think he was a literal fucking clown robot in the pods. 462 00:20:18,008 --> 00:20:20,886 {\an8}And, like, who he said he was and how he handled the situation 463 00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:24,223 {\an8}and how he conducts himself as a man and a human being, 464 00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:28,101 {\an8}he hasn't shown me an ounce of that since we've been out of the pods. 465 00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:31,480 {\an8}-Really? You think he's an all-talk... -100%. 466 00:20:31,563 --> 00:20:33,065 {\an8}Once you're in the situation... 467 00:20:33,732 --> 00:20:35,734 {\an8}There is a part of me, which I voiced to him. 468 00:20:35,817 --> 00:20:39,321 {\an8}There's a part of me that's like, "Are you... confused still?" 469 00:20:39,404 --> 00:20:42,324 {\an8}He's, like, "No, no, no." But I'm like, "Now I'm talking to you." 470 00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:44,117 {\an8}I'm, like, "Is he in all aspects?" 471 00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:45,160 {\an8}Just be careful, babe. 472 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:49,706 {\an8}Like, the guy, as far as I'm concerned, is not who he said he was. 473 00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:53,168 {\an8}To say that, like, you love me as much as you do 474 00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,295 {\an8}and, like, I was it no matter what, 475 00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:59,341 {\an8}and to throw you fucking under the bus continuously, like, it's... 476 00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,510 {\an8}-Yeah. -The guy likes attention. 477 00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:03,470 {\an8}Since that night happened last Saturday, 478 00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:05,597 {\an8}all he's been fucking talking about is his image 479 00:21:05,681 --> 00:21:07,266 {\an8}and how he looks worse than Jimmy. 480 00:21:07,349 --> 00:21:09,309 {\an8}So I don't know why the fuck he came on this show, 481 00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,770 {\an8}but it sure as fuck wasn't for a marriage or for fucking love. 482 00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:13,939 {\an8}-'Cause he's not ready for that. -[Sarah Ann] Wow. 483 00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:17,150 {\an8}I am literally blindsided 484 00:21:17,234 --> 00:21:20,529 {\an8}at who this person said that he was. 485 00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:22,614 -Yeah. -And, like, just watch yourself. 486 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:27,494 [laughing] 487 00:21:27,577 --> 00:21:29,663 [laughs] I don't know what the Jimmy context was about. 488 00:21:29,746 --> 00:21:32,791 -I appreciate the strays. -[Jeramey laughs] Sorry about that, Jimmy. 489 00:21:32,874 --> 00:21:35,961 [Vanessa] So, you kind of got dragged into that conversation. 490 00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:38,130 -[Jimmy] Yep. -I'm sure that was a surprise for you. 491 00:21:38,213 --> 00:21:40,632 I'm dragged into every conversation, it feels like. 492 00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:43,051 [Vanessa] What do you think Laura meant by saying Jeramey 493 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:45,470 was worried he'd look as bad as you? 494 00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:49,057 I remember me having a really tough decision. 495 00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:53,395 I'm sitting here in the pods. I'm like... for days, hours, it felt like. 496 00:21:53,895 --> 00:21:57,316 {\an8}I remember all the other guys, Ken, everybody else picked me up that day. 497 00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,901 {\an8}Jeramey said, "At least I can sleep knowing Jimmy's the villain." 498 00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:03,613 When I had a decision to make and everybody else was picking me up, 499 00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:05,115 that was the words you left me with. 500 00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:07,617 -Okay. -[Nick] That's true? 501 00:22:07,701 --> 00:22:10,704 I don't recall saying that, but if I did say that, I was... 502 00:22:10,787 --> 00:22:11,788 [Jimmy] Was on your mind. 503 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,957 You're still talking about me in your relationships. 504 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,042 That's how you viewed me. 505 00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,919 [Jeramey] I understand that, and if I did say that to you, 506 00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:19,254 I'm sorry for saying that, 507 00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,882 'cause it was not meant to be anything serious. 508 00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:23,925 -That's fair. -Do you feel a little burned by that? 509 00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:26,303 [Jimmy] It is what it is. 510 00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:28,513 Jeramey is the least of my concerns right now. [laughs] 511 00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,432 [laughing] 512 00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:31,725 I am sorry for saying that. 513 00:22:31,808 --> 00:22:35,354 -Well, AD, you had some choice words... -[AD] A few. 514 00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:38,648 ...for Sarah Ann at the lake party. We all had a chance to see that. 515 00:22:38,732 --> 00:22:43,153 {\an8}What did you think of Sarah Ann's apology to Laura just now? 516 00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:45,364 I mean... [sighs] 517 00:22:45,447 --> 00:22:47,324 I feel like it's null and void. 518 00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:48,909 I don't think it matters. 519 00:22:48,992 --> 00:22:51,370 You still pursued him. You still went after him. 520 00:22:51,453 --> 00:22:53,372 So, sorry for what? 521 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:56,625 Mm-hmm. 522 00:22:56,708 --> 00:23:00,962 [Vanessa] Sarah Ann, at that lake party that we keep referencing, 523 00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:03,215 there was a bit of an icy reception 524 00:23:03,298 --> 00:23:05,842 from the women in this group. 525 00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:08,595 How does your relationship with them stand today? 526 00:23:08,678 --> 00:23:10,806 I don't talk to any of the women. 527 00:23:11,848 --> 00:23:13,517 That's because she liked to unfollow us 528 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,686 and still follow our fiancés at the lake day, which I thought strange. 529 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:19,481 -[audience] Oh! -[laughing] 530 00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,191 This is, like, a lot. [laughs] 531 00:23:21,274 --> 00:23:22,818 [Sarah Ann] You iced me out of a chat. 532 00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:24,694 [Chelsea 2] Nobody was mean to you. 533 00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:27,781 {\an8}[Sarah Ann] You guys iced me out of a group chat. 534 00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:30,575 {\an8}-I removed you from the group chat. -And you know what, Jess? 535 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:33,620 {\an8}You saw me crying after he broke up with me. I said, "I feel gaslighted." 536 00:23:33,703 --> 00:23:34,746 And I was heartbroken. 537 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,582 And you watched me bawl my eyes out, and you defended him. 538 00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:40,460 Not me. You were never a girl's girl ever, honey. 539 00:23:40,544 --> 00:23:44,047 And you sat there and told me that I'm not a girl's girl? You're not! 540 00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:47,634 -That's why you got removed. -You watched me bawl my eyes out. 541 00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:50,804 Being the loudest in the room does not make you the most noticeable. 542 00:23:50,887 --> 00:23:53,515 I'm not trying to be loud. It's not about that. I'm always loud. 543 00:23:53,598 --> 00:23:55,767 [Jessica] So take your moment and then I'll speak. 544 00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:56,726 [Nick exhales] 545 00:23:56,810 --> 00:24:00,397 [Jessica] No one could empathize with your situation more than I could. 546 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,858 Honestly. Truly. 547 00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:04,276 And I think we can all agree, 548 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,904 everyone's feelings are valid, and we're all entitled to having them. 549 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,282 We just, as a group, 550 00:24:10,365 --> 00:24:15,537 we all thought both of you could have handled the situation more respectfully. 551 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:16,913 Absolutely. 552 00:24:16,997 --> 00:24:19,416 Simply just show some consideration. 553 00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:24,254 Just curious if any of you have seen Jeramey in the subsequent time. 554 00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:25,964 [Vanessa, Nick] Since the show. 555 00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:28,633 -Oh, yeah. [laughing] -[Vanessa] Okay. 556 00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:31,261 -Every time I see him, they're broken up. -Yeah. 557 00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:33,847 -[audience] Ooh! -[Nick] You said they're broken up? 558 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:36,016 [Chelsea 2] They're broken up every time I see 'em. 559 00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:39,144 -[Vanessa] When have you see them? -[Jeramey] I've seen her one time. 560 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:42,272 -I've seen you one time since... -I've seen you twice. 561 00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:44,816 I asked if you were still with Sarah Ann, and you said no. 562 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:46,067 When... okay. 563 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,195 We have gone through 564 00:24:48,278 --> 00:24:51,948 real life relationship stuff since we have been together. 565 00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,492 Have we had our ons and offs? 566 00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:56,036 Yes, we've had our ons and offs. We've had our ups and downs. 567 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,789 We've had times where we've contemplated separating from each other. 568 00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:02,501 We've had times we've had to make up in order to make that happen. 569 00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:05,754 And at the end of it, we ended up moving in together. 570 00:25:06,755 --> 00:25:07,756 October. 571 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:10,884 So there's some missing, like, story in that part of it. 572 00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:15,222 Like, we've had our ups and downs, but we did realize 573 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:18,266 fighting through things continuously, that we do love each other. 574 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,102 We wanted to support each other through this whole process itself. 575 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:24,689 And since we've been there, I'm not gonna say everything's been perfect, 576 00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:27,234 but we're still fighting for that every day. 577 00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:29,444 Okay, well, Sarah Ann, I have to ask you about 578 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,363 something else that happened fairly recently. 579 00:25:31,446 --> 00:25:34,074 You did a video, uh, that appears to show you living 580 00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:35,742 in Jeramey's home. 581 00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:38,286 Even if you did that inadvertently, people online 582 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,540 have said you spoiled the storyline for them. You gave away the ending, 583 00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:45,502 because you showed that you were clearly with Jeramey in his home, 584 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:47,587 which they've seen previously in the season. 585 00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:50,549 When I posted the video, I actually... 586 00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:53,301 I guess to the magnitude of the internet, 587 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:54,970 I never really could understand 588 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:58,723 that people really do become the FBI and pause things. 589 00:25:58,807 --> 00:26:00,100 -Oh, yeah. -That's where I reside. 590 00:26:00,183 --> 00:26:02,894 Fans are sleuths. They're, like, "I know that painting." 591 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,729 When I posted, it wasn't to spoil anything. 592 00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:06,731 That wasn't my intention at all. 593 00:26:06,815 --> 00:26:09,859 [laughing] Well, while we're talking about things that have been put out online. 594 00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:11,653 I have to ask you about something else. 595 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:14,990 You posted a video saying, and I quote, "This is reality television." 596 00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:17,909 "It's meant to entertain you, and that's exactly what we're doing." 597 00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:20,328 "We didn't miss with this one, baby," end quote. 598 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:24,165 -[laughing] -Let's look, so everyone has the context. 599 00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,168 -Oh, God. -They're calling everybody out. I love it. 600 00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:31,423 This is a reality television. It is meant to entertain you, 601 00:26:31,506 --> 00:26:33,300 and I think that's exactly what we're doing. 602 00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:36,595 We didn't miss with this one, baby. We didn't miss! 603 00:26:36,678 --> 00:26:40,307 So, be very, very clear about this right now, 604 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:41,975 was this all just for entertainment? 605 00:26:42,058 --> 00:26:47,689 I will say this, that I fell in love with who Jeramey is as a person. 606 00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:48,898 We've had a strong connection 607 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,401 since the very beginning of this experiment, okay? 608 00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:56,781 And I don't think for a second 609 00:26:56,865 --> 00:26:58,992 that anything between us is fake. 610 00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:01,995 To throw out there so casually, "This is entertainment. We didn't miss." 611 00:27:02,078 --> 00:27:03,747 That's where the disconnect is happening. 612 00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,498 The reason I put the video up is, 613 00:27:05,582 --> 00:27:08,335 I'm experiencing a ton of hate on the internet, 614 00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:09,919 and I'm just a character, you know? 615 00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:14,507 There's never an interview of me talking about how I feel about this man at all. 616 00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:17,677 And that's unfortunate because there was a lot of heartfelt conversations. 617 00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:21,389 But I think that they didn't air all that because he had picked Laura. 618 00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:23,350 Of course, of course, yeah, absolutely. 619 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:28,188 Is it safe to say that the relationship you are currently in is... 620 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:29,147 Real. 621 00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:33,443 My real life, my 96-year-old grandmother 622 00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,779 had a flight to my wedding. 623 00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:39,240 And within days, he was with you. 624 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:41,076 He met my whole family. 625 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:44,204 Very few people in my entire life have met the most important people to me. 626 00:27:44,287 --> 00:27:45,580 He held my dog. 627 00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,541 And then, literally, hours later, 628 00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:51,086 basically decided that he had chosen you instead. 629 00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:53,672 That is why I'm coming in so hot. 630 00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:55,256 The fact that you guys have... 631 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,550 First of all, Sarah Ann, you've had a year to reach out. 632 00:27:57,634 --> 00:27:59,469 We had that little lake day party. 633 00:27:59,552 --> 00:28:02,514 Half that conversation felt like you were asking me for advice 634 00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:04,265 on your new relationship with him, 635 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:07,268 which I wanted absolutely nothing to do with, obviously. 636 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:10,480 I was hoping and praying for you guys to come in here with some humility 637 00:28:10,563 --> 00:28:14,567 and come with an apology and realize that this was my real life. 638 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:17,445 I understand you guys are together now, whatever, that's fine, 639 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,197 but this was my real life, my real fiancé, 640 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,533 my real engagement, my real wedding 641 00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:24,369 that was made a mockery of by the two of you. 642 00:28:24,452 --> 00:28:27,247 And then you come here with heat towards me like I did something wrong. 643 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,958 All we're trying to say is there seems to be a disconnect 644 00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,293 between what's happening on the internet and real life. 645 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:34,504 -This is your real life. -[Jeramey] Mm-hmm. 646 00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:37,590 This is your real life and now your real babies and families. 647 00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:40,051 Even Laura over there, she's like, "My 96-year-old grandma." 648 00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:43,138 "This was my real life that was made a mockery of." 649 00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,098 The show didn't make a mockery of her. 650 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,600 -This situation did. -[Jeramey] Mm-hmm. 651 00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:50,353 So she's wanting to know, as are people who see that. 652 00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:54,441 Do you see it as entertainment, whereas this is their life? 653 00:28:54,524 --> 00:28:56,735 -This is their future, their love. -[Sarah Ann] Yeah. 654 00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:58,945 [Vanessa] Do you think you were trying to entertain? 655 00:28:59,612 --> 00:29:01,030 No, no. 656 00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:04,033 And I'll clarify that right now. Probably taken out of context. 657 00:29:04,117 --> 00:29:08,747 That was, to be quite frank, to put out entertainment of my own. 658 00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:10,248 Um, so... 659 00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:13,251 But no, I think the experiment does work. 660 00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:15,044 I mean, I'm sitting next to someone that, 661 00:29:15,128 --> 00:29:18,339 you know, I love with all my heart. 662 00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:21,926 And in my pursuit of love, I... 663 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:23,386 hearts got broken. 664 00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:26,514 And I apologize for that. That's not what I wanted, Laura. 665 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:27,891 That's not what I wanted. 666 00:29:27,974 --> 00:29:29,017 I'm sorry. 667 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,437 I still maintain that nothing happened between Sarah Ann and I that night. 668 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,564 It was wrong, should not have done it. 669 00:29:34,647 --> 00:29:39,986 That's not her fault. That is... that is absolutely on me, 670 00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,946 and I'm sorry for that. 671 00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,406 To take some accountability, 672 00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:45,158 that's all I've been waiting for for a year. 673 00:29:45,241 --> 00:29:46,743 We are happy you found each other. 674 00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:48,495 There could've been, probably Laura agrees, 675 00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,747 a better way for all of this to unfold. 676 00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:53,750 Unfortunately, it did not. You said your piece. 677 00:29:53,833 --> 00:29:54,709 Laura. 678 00:29:56,669 --> 00:29:57,962 Are you dating anyone right now? 679 00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,256 -[woman 15] Ooh. -[laughing] Um... 680 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:01,257 [all laughing] 681 00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:02,425 [Laura] Yes. 682 00:30:02,509 --> 00:30:05,887 -I am. [laughing] -[all cheering] 683 00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:13,937 It's late where you are. Thank you so much for joining us today. 684 00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:15,271 -We wish you the best. -Wait! 685 00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:16,981 No. Yes, what? 686 00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,817 We're not gonna discuss "bean dip"? 687 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,277 -[AD] Oh, please no. -[Laura] Two seconds to clear it up. 688 00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:23,321 -[laughing] -[Laura] AD, I love Clay. 689 00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:26,241 AD was my very close friend in the lounge, in the pods. 690 00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:28,535 We were playful. I'm a goofball. 691 00:30:29,035 --> 00:30:31,621 Bean dip was a joke. It was a playful thing. 692 00:30:31,704 --> 00:30:33,414 There was no disrespect meant behind it. 693 00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:37,126 I've apologized to her face-to-face, on camera, off camera. 694 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:38,837 I'll do it all day every day. 695 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,049 I apologize if there was any disrespect insinuated in any way. 696 00:30:43,132 --> 00:30:44,968 It was not intended. I love you guys so much. 697 00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:48,054 It was a joke that was just taken completely out of context, and I'm sorry. 698 00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:51,599 I'm sorry for throwing that out into the world. 699 00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:53,059 Now that's a very Googled term 700 00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:55,562 that should've never been Googled to begin with. 701 00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:57,313 -[AD laughing] -So I'm sorry. 702 00:30:57,397 --> 00:30:59,607 -[Vanessa] Okay. -All right, moving on, huh? 703 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,067 Whoo! I'm hot. 704 00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:02,902 Guys, one of the biggest scandals to break 705 00:31:02,986 --> 00:31:05,488 since this season premiered involves our next guest. 706 00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:08,575 So, everyone, please join me in welcoming the mullet-man himself. 707 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:10,577 Trevor. 708 00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:15,665 [dance music playing] 709 00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:17,250 [chattering] 710 00:31:17,917 --> 00:31:19,335 [Nick] The mullet's back, baby. 711 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,630 -[Johnny] Damn, Trev! -[Trevor] Oh. What's up? 712 00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,301 {\an8}[Vanessa] We're stacking these couches. You have enough room? 713 00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,595 {\an8}-No. -[laughing] 714 00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:31,306 {\an8}-How's it going, buddy? -[Vanessa] We're gonna get right into it. 715 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:32,891 Trevor, hi. 716 00:31:32,974 --> 00:31:36,311 When the season premiered, people were posting, 717 00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:38,438 "Protect Trevor at all costs." 718 00:31:38,521 --> 00:31:42,567 And "if anyone hurts Trevor, they're dead to me." 719 00:31:43,318 --> 00:31:47,238 Then something came out that shocked everyone. 720 00:31:48,364 --> 00:31:53,202 Screenshots came out on the internet which were allegedly between you, Trevor, 721 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:56,122 and the girlfriend that you had at the same time 722 00:31:56,205 --> 00:31:59,042 that you were participating in this experiment. 723 00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:03,338 [Nick] Yes, in fact, you were texting her as you were traveling here 724 00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:05,381 and as soon as you left the pods. 725 00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:08,384 We actually have the texts. So let's go ahead and take a look. 726 00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:09,719 [woman 16] Show the receipts. 727 00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:11,679 -[Nick] "I love you so much, honey." -[all] Ooh! 728 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:15,516 [Nick] "I'm excited for it, but more excited to get back to you after 729 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,018 and start our life together." 730 00:32:17,101 --> 00:32:19,187 [Vanessa] She responded with, "Did you land?" 731 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,648 [Nick] Trevor responded, "Just did." 732 00:32:22,565 --> 00:32:25,985 Then, skipping to when you left the pods, you again wrote, 733 00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:28,404 "Do you still love me?" 734 00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:32,450 [Vanessa] She says, "Pumpkin, I'm crying." 735 00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,702 [Nick] Trevor then says, "Can I call you in 30 minutes?" 736 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,080 [Vanessa] She said, "I missed you so much." 737 00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:40,249 Trevor wrote, "I love you more than anything in this world." 738 00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,794 -"And I'm going to marry you." -[woman 17] Oh! 739 00:32:42,877 --> 00:32:45,296 [Vanessa] She says, "Yes. Call me. I can't wait." 740 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,383 [Nick] Trevor says, "I hope you know how much I love you 741 00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:52,845 and had to pretend that this wasn't real life to say anything I said." 742 00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:54,931 [Vanessa] She responds with, "It's okay, pumpkin." 743 00:32:56,849 --> 00:32:58,851 [Nick] Now, Trevor, I'd like to hear 744 00:32:59,852 --> 00:33:01,145 what you have to say. 745 00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:03,856 -Yeah, me too. [laughing] -[Nick] Certainly a lot to unpack there. 746 00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:08,194 {\an8}I think not only Vanessa and I, but everyone on this stage, 747 00:33:08,277 --> 00:33:11,114 {\an8}would love to hear what you have to say about that. 748 00:33:13,783 --> 00:33:15,243 Um... 749 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,709 -Nah, say it with your chest. -[laughing] 750 00:33:22,792 --> 00:33:24,877 -[AD] Don't get quiet now. -[Micah] Oh! 751 00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,462 [AD] Don't get quiet now. 752 00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,383 [laughing] 753 00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:39,934 I... I had a whole thing planned to say. 754 00:33:44,313 --> 00:33:45,481 I don't know. 755 00:33:48,234 --> 00:33:49,152 Um... 756 00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:51,738 Yeah. 757 00:33:52,947 --> 00:33:53,823 So... 758 00:33:57,660 --> 00:33:59,704 I guess I'll start by saying that 759 00:33:59,787 --> 00:34:01,914 I was not dating her... 760 00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:05,585 "dating" her, technically. Like, I never said, "Will you be my girlfriend?" 761 00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:08,588 before the show started. 762 00:34:09,172 --> 00:34:11,215 But there definitely was... 763 00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,677 Like, obviously, we were close, but she knew... 764 00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:17,930 She was the typical girl I'd go for in real life. 765 00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,977 And I told her before, like, "I want to go on this 766 00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,979 to try to experiment with something else." 767 00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:28,399 Like, there's no justifying that. 768 00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,777 That sounds fucking horrible what I just said, and that... 769 00:34:31,444 --> 00:34:33,529 that is horrible. 770 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:36,074 But I... 771 00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:37,909 wanted to do this. 772 00:34:37,992 --> 00:34:41,079 Like, I wanted to meet somebody that I wouldn't go for in real life. 773 00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:42,789 It is fucked up that I was... 774 00:34:43,539 --> 00:34:47,502 acted like that with someone else right before going on and right after, 775 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:49,587 but I went in with the mindset of, like, 776 00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:53,716 I will find someone. Like, I wanna try it. 777 00:34:57,136 --> 00:35:00,348 I don't fucking know. There isn't an answer for that. 778 00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:02,725 -[Nick] You're saying "I love you..." -Yes. 779 00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:05,186 ...to this woman as you're entering the experiment, 780 00:35:05,269 --> 00:35:06,687 as you're entering the pods. 781 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:10,441 -Yes. -To say, "She wasn't my girlfriend..." 782 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:13,319 You don't say "I love you" to someone you don't care about. 783 00:35:13,402 --> 00:35:15,071 [Trevor] I mean, I did care about her. 784 00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,156 [Nick] You're going with you didn't love her? 785 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:18,574 No, no, no, I did. 786 00:35:18,658 --> 00:35:23,538 So, I'm saying, how unfair is it to everyone on the stage... 787 00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:25,123 And I'll call out Chelsea directly 788 00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:29,627 {\an8}because there was a moment there where she easily could have said, 789 00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:32,547 "Trevor, you are the one for me. You're my life partner." 790 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:35,341 Unbeknownst to her, you have someone on the outside. 791 00:35:35,424 --> 00:35:36,843 I would have been with Chelsea. 792 00:35:36,926 --> 00:35:39,220 I told her that. She knew that. 793 00:35:39,303 --> 00:35:42,723 Like, she... her and I were so fucking toxic. 794 00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,725 So toxic that after you get out of the pods, 795 00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:46,018 you said, "Going to marry you"? 796 00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,353 Yes, yes! 797 00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:49,772 I'm toxic as well. I admit that. 798 00:35:49,856 --> 00:35:53,776 Like, I need a lot of, like, therapy. 799 00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:56,487 I went in with this of, like, 800 00:35:57,196 --> 00:35:59,657 I know I'm toxic. I know I need to fucking change. 801 00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:00,575 I... 802 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,370 -I don't know what you want me to say. -Do you guys wanna say anything? 803 00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:05,955 [woman 18] Oh. 804 00:36:06,038 --> 00:36:07,623 [laughing] 805 00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,834 -I'll stay out of it, Pumpkin. -[laughing] 806 00:36:09,917 --> 00:36:13,671 -Not "Pumpkin." -Jimmy, your time's coming. Don't worry. 807 00:36:13,754 --> 00:36:16,632 I definitely am not here to grill you by any means. 808 00:36:16,716 --> 00:36:18,009 It didn't work out for us. 809 00:36:18,092 --> 00:36:21,679 And I had just this intuition of why I shouldn't have picked you. 810 00:36:21,762 --> 00:36:24,891 I couldn't explain it, and now I can. 811 00:36:26,934 --> 00:36:29,437 [Brittany] I think it's just disrespectful. 812 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,567 {\an8}Because we all put ten toes down into this experience. 813 00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:37,862 For you to also be playing the other woman, 814 00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:39,363 that's also disrespectful. 815 00:36:39,447 --> 00:36:40,448 [Chelsea 2] Mm-hmm. 816 00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:42,992 [Brittany] A little concerning that she was okay with it. 817 00:36:43,075 --> 00:36:44,452 [Trevor] I agree. 818 00:36:45,077 --> 00:36:48,623 Um, but, yeah, it's disrespectful to them as well. 819 00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:52,001 I mean, it's the same thing that you were asking Sarah Ann earlier. 820 00:36:52,084 --> 00:36:56,672 What about us that are going in this with the right intentions, 821 00:36:56,756 --> 00:36:57,965 doing the right thing. 822 00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,508 [Chelsea 2] What if I did choose you? 823 00:37:00,551 --> 00:37:03,179 Would she be lingering around, just like... 824 00:37:03,262 --> 00:37:06,974 No, I told her that up front. I was like, "You and I are toxic together." 825 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,685 "If I meet someone in here, then I'm staying with someone in here." 826 00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:13,898 -You told her you were gonna marry her. -[Trevor] Yeah, when I left, 'cause... 827 00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:15,733 When I left, I was a fucking emotional wreck. 828 00:37:15,816 --> 00:37:19,320 Johnny, you were there when I walked out of the pods that day. Was I not... 829 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:23,199 -It was really bad. It was really bad. -Like, way worse than is shown. 830 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,495 Like, I did get into the experiment when I got here. 831 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:31,415 Johnny was in the lounge and saw me, and I know you guys trust Johnny. 832 00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:33,334 [laughing] 833 00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:34,502 [Brittany] King Johnny. 834 00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:39,090 Were you more hurt of leaving Chelsea or because you were leaving the show? 835 00:37:40,341 --> 00:37:44,428 I didn't care about leaving the show. Can I, like, just leave right now? 836 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:48,307 -Go ahead. -Chelsea has been raked over the coals. 837 00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:49,725 No, and I will... 838 00:37:49,809 --> 00:37:51,435 [Jessica] You could've come to her rescue. 839 00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,730 Even I have asked for a cease-fire on Jimmy. 840 00:37:54,814 --> 00:37:58,067 And at any point, you could have just been... 841 00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,319 I have made comments helping Chelsea. 842 00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:05,157 Did you come here to forward your career and be on TV? 843 00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:07,201 [Trevor] No, what career? I mean... 844 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:08,703 [Vanessa] I have no idea. 845 00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,290 I did come here for 846 00:38:13,874 --> 00:38:15,459 good and bad reasons. 847 00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:17,962 I can't take back that I went on the show. 848 00:38:18,045 --> 00:38:21,674 I'm glad I went on the show 'cause it taught me a lot about myself. 849 00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:25,428 And, Chelsea, like, I was myself in those pods. 850 00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:27,722 I hope you know that. 851 00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:31,350 And any clarity you need off camera, like, I will give to you, 852 00:38:31,434 --> 00:38:34,228 You're the only person that I owe any response to. 853 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,856 Like, I don't give a fuck about people online. 854 00:38:36,939 --> 00:38:40,735 I don't need to respond to them, but you, if you need that, I will give it to you. 855 00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:41,694 I appreciate you. 856 00:38:42,611 --> 00:38:44,530 Sarah Ann, we've talked about your suggestion 857 00:38:44,613 --> 00:38:46,907 that this is just done for entertainment. 858 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:51,162 There's been suggestions that maybe you were here for the wrong reasons. 859 00:38:51,245 --> 00:38:53,205 Guys, I wanna say participating in Love Is Blind, 860 00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:55,416 it's really a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. 861 00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:58,252 Vanessa and I believed in it from season one. You can see the results. 862 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,504 Look around this room. Look at this couch right here. 863 00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:05,259 We do not want people to come here motivated by fame. 864 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:06,886 That's not what this is about. 865 00:39:06,969 --> 00:39:09,555 It's not fair to the audience, 866 00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:12,767 and most importantly, it's not fair to the people right here, 867 00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:14,727 the people who've invested genuinely 868 00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:17,355 in what this thing is truly, truly all about. 869 00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:19,315 It's just wrong. It really is. 870 00:39:19,982 --> 00:39:23,861 For people who come here with ulterior motives, we've gotta call you out for it. 871 00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:26,530 So, Trevor, I know you asked to leave. You can leave now, man. 872 00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:28,783 [woman 19] Oh, my God. 873 00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:30,618 [Trevor exhales] 874 00:39:32,828 --> 00:39:35,498 [Vanessa] On that note, I'm gonna change the subject. 875 00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:37,416 Oh, my gosh! We have a sign in the audience! 876 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,795 -"AD All Day." Yes! -[cheering] 877 00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:47,718 A couple that we were really rooting for. 878 00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:49,595 -[AD sighs] -AD and Clay. 879 00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:52,640 We wanna know what happened 880 00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,976 after the weeks following the wedding. 881 00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,021 {\an8}A lot of weeks went by before we spoke. 882 00:39:59,105 --> 00:40:02,566 {\an8}Um, I just wasn't in a place to speak to him. 883 00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,193 I really had nothing to say. 884 00:40:04,276 --> 00:40:08,489 {\an8}Yeah, I just thought from a respect level, that I shouldn't reach out automatically. 885 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,741 I just think when you go through a heartbreak like that, 886 00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:14,370 it's just sometimes hard to, you know, look each other in the face. 887 00:40:14,453 --> 00:40:18,207 It's just been a little bit of a rough ride after the, uh, altar. 888 00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:20,876 So who contacted who first to get together? 889 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,044 He called me, duh. 890 00:40:22,128 --> 00:40:24,338 -[laughing] -He called me. 891 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:28,217 Yeah, I got a couple, like, messages that wasn't responded to, but yeah. 892 00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:33,973 What was it like for the two of you to watch the wedding back? 893 00:40:34,557 --> 00:40:36,016 -That was tough. -[Vanessa] Hmm. 894 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,518 That was really tough. 895 00:40:37,601 --> 00:40:41,105 I mean, it's not normal to watch yourself have a meltdown. 896 00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:45,151 And I mean, the love that I had for this man... 897 00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,154 [shudders] Hmm. 898 00:40:49,196 --> 00:40:50,865 It was tough to watch 899 00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:54,452 because it was such a lead up for such a crazy letdown. 900 00:40:54,535 --> 00:40:55,911 This process is unique. 901 00:40:55,995 --> 00:41:00,040 You know, you get a chance to essentially watch yourself, you know, 902 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,626 like a fly on the wall to your own life. 903 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:05,045 And, you know, just kind of seeing everything, 904 00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,506 and it was really emotional for me to watch. 905 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:10,050 You know, seeing AD interact on the other lounge 906 00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:11,427 and how excited she was, 907 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:14,513 like, to me watching it, I just felt like the biggest dick. 908 00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:18,100 I felt like, you know, I disrespected her family, 909 00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:22,646 and I apologized to, you know, your mom and your sisters, 910 00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:24,857 because they all met me with grace. 911 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:26,901 And, like, even to hear that, you know, 912 00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:30,196 that I disrespected them, that I wasted their time. 913 00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:31,780 You know, that definitely hurt. 914 00:41:32,823 --> 00:41:35,701 [Nick] This is a tough question to ask. 915 00:41:35,784 --> 00:41:38,037 And hindsight is always 20/20. 916 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,622 But looking back, 917 00:41:40,873 --> 00:41:42,833 would you have done things differently? 918 00:41:43,584 --> 00:41:45,211 You know, Nick, that's a good question. 919 00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:48,589 I think throughout this whole process, one of the biggest things I struggled with 920 00:41:48,672 --> 00:41:50,174 was getting out of my own way. 921 00:41:50,257 --> 00:41:53,886 I kind of battle with, like, the morality of, like, am I a good person? 922 00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:57,806 Am I a bad person? And AD always, like, navigated me. 923 00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:00,809 She always made sure she uplifted me and made me feel like the best person. 924 00:42:00,893 --> 00:42:02,645 But I couldn't get out of my own way. 925 00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:07,816 I kept looking at myself like, "I'm not the guy that deserves love and marriage." 926 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,194 And, you know, AD's really seen me through. 927 00:42:10,277 --> 00:42:12,279 She's honestly the love of my life. 928 00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:14,657 And I will tell you, honestly, I did make a mistake, 929 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:16,951 you know, going to the altar and saying no. 930 00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:18,577 But, you know, it's one of those things 931 00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,121 that you just kind of go through and live through, you know. 932 00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:24,458 And I'm humbled to watch myself and see that 933 00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,418 there was different things that I didn't do well. 934 00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:28,587 And you know, I'm definitely taking the work. 935 00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:32,758 I've been doing therapy to be a better person, you know. 936 00:42:32,841 --> 00:42:34,718 Because I do think that, you know, 937 00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:36,887 it was a big letdown, and I apologize. 938 00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:39,682 I love you. You are the love of my life, and it was a mistake. 939 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,395 [Vanessa] AD, that was like a roller coaster of emotions. 940 00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:47,940 I'm watching you go from, like, "oh, here we go" to "oh, my goodness." 941 00:42:48,023 --> 00:42:51,777 What are you feeling hearing Clay say all of these things? 942 00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:53,904 It just takes me right back to 943 00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:56,740 day one of falling for him 944 00:42:56,824 --> 00:43:01,120 and knowing that I could be everything that he needed 945 00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:05,124 and knowing that, like, there's nothing more that I could have done. 946 00:43:05,207 --> 00:43:07,835 And then to hear him say it was a mistake is, like, 947 00:43:09,169 --> 00:43:10,963 what am I supposed to do with that information? 948 00:43:11,046 --> 00:43:12,131 [Vanessa] Mm-hmm. 949 00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:15,217 Do you think you would ever date him again? 950 00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,766 [all laughing] 951 00:43:24,393 --> 00:43:27,062 -Next question. -[laughing] 952 00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:29,523 [Vanessa] Clay, would you ever date her again? 953 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,026 -1,000%. -[woman 20] Oh, my gosh. 954 00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:34,069 -[AD] Nuh-uh! -[laughing] 955 00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:36,697 [AD exclaims] 956 00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:38,365 -You had your chance. -[Clay] I did. 957 00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:41,201 -I did. -You had your chance. I was wide... 958 00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:43,329 There's nothing that I wouldn't have given you. 959 00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:45,289 And there's nothing I wouldn't have done for you. 960 00:43:45,372 --> 00:43:47,207 And I feel like, low-key, 961 00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:49,084 respectfully, you played in my fucking face. 962 00:43:49,668 --> 00:43:52,421 You played in my face. You knew you didn't wanna get married. 963 00:43:52,504 --> 00:43:54,798 -That's not true. -Then why are we not married? 964 00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:55,841 [woman 21] Ooh. 965 00:43:55,924 --> 00:43:59,136 You know, when it was happening, I wanted to say yes. 966 00:43:59,219 --> 00:44:01,430 I saw you walk across on the altar. 967 00:44:02,389 --> 00:44:04,433 And I was, like, "This is my wife." 968 00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:07,645 As it was going on, I'm looking at you. 969 00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:11,357 I'm like, "I don't know if I could show up for you every single day." It's just... 970 00:44:11,857 --> 00:44:15,611 I'm sure people who experience this, that's been through the experiment, 971 00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:17,821 you know, days are like weeks. 972 00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:20,949 Moments and that time at the altar, when she walked down the altar, 973 00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:22,284 I swear, it was like three days. 974 00:44:22,368 --> 00:44:24,787 I'm just going back and forth of, like, watching her. 975 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:25,913 "She's so beautiful." 976 00:44:25,996 --> 00:44:28,290 "Clay, you know who you are." "But AD." 977 00:44:28,374 --> 00:44:30,417 It's a lot of things that you're battling with. 978 00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:32,586 And for me, Nick, I would say that 979 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:36,006 I didn't put the work in to understand love 980 00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:37,383 before I got in the process. 981 00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:41,261 And I believe I almost was getting diagnosed on camera 982 00:44:41,345 --> 00:44:44,431 as, like, this red flag or this guy who has, 983 00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:46,850 you know, dad issues and something like that. 984 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:50,896 But I received it, you know. At the end of the day, I didn't do the process right. 985 00:44:50,979 --> 00:44:52,439 I disrespected AD. I love her. 986 00:44:52,523 --> 00:44:55,651 And it hurts that you don't even think that, you know, so... 987 00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:57,361 -[Vanessa] Clay. -Yeah. 988 00:44:58,487 --> 00:45:00,781 Do you think you're ready now? It's been a year. 989 00:45:01,490 --> 00:45:05,285 Yeah, I think I put the work in. I wasn't bullshitting. 990 00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:08,789 Uh, I went to therapy. I tried different therapists out, even. 991 00:45:08,872 --> 00:45:10,833 You know, trying to see what worked for me. 992 00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:14,253 You know, I wanna be a good guy. I wanna be the best version I can be. 993 00:45:14,336 --> 00:45:17,464 -It sucks that I wasn't like that for you. -You are a good guy. 994 00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:19,633 I swear. It really wasn't intentional. 995 00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:21,593 Like, I'm watching it back, 996 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,763 and it broke my heart to break your heart, honestly. 997 00:45:24,847 --> 00:45:27,474 -And that was not my intention. -[exhales] 998 00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:31,103 Um, it happened, and I'll take everything that comes with it. 999 00:45:31,186 --> 00:45:32,813 I came out a different man, 1000 00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:35,441 and I have to credit that to AD. 1001 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:38,527 When someone changes your life, you just don't turn your back on them. 1002 00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:40,946 And, you know, that's just me being here for her. 1003 00:45:41,029 --> 00:45:44,283 -I applaud you for growth. -Yeah. 1004 00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:46,452 I applaud you as a man for being willing to say, 1005 00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:49,663 "I need to take a look at myself, and I need therapy." 1006 00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:50,706 "I wanna seek that out." 1007 00:45:50,789 --> 00:45:53,000 "I wanna be a better person for myself and for others." 1008 00:45:53,083 --> 00:45:55,461 That takes a lot of courage to, A, one, do. 1009 00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:57,963 -And B, say on national television. -[Vanessa] Follow through. 1010 00:45:58,046 --> 00:46:00,883 [Nick] So I applaud you for that, man, really. 1011 00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:11,602 It was hard watching because there were so many layers to your love story. 1012 00:46:11,685 --> 00:46:15,564 [Nick] Mm. I'm curious, AD, how did you feel when you watched it back, 1013 00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:20,152 watching that conversation between Clay's mom and his dad? 1014 00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:23,363 Um, I thought in watching it with Vanessa, 1015 00:46:23,447 --> 00:46:26,658 that was a pretty heavy moment, a pretty insightful moment. 1016 00:46:27,326 --> 00:46:31,163 Did it give you any more understanding as to why things were the way they were? 1017 00:46:31,246 --> 00:46:33,957 I think that conversation really, um, 1018 00:46:34,041 --> 00:46:35,292 closed the circle for me. 1019 00:46:35,375 --> 00:46:38,337 There were a lot of missing pieces that I just could not quite understand, 1020 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:41,924 and I knew that Clay's parents had gone through their trials. 1021 00:46:42,007 --> 00:46:44,968 And hearing that conversation really showed me 1022 00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:48,514 that he was battling things that I just... that there's nothing I could have done 1023 00:46:48,597 --> 00:46:51,391 to take that stress from him. 1024 00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:53,268 Hearing that conversation, I was, like, "Wow." 1025 00:46:53,352 --> 00:46:55,562 Like, "That was deep." 1026 00:46:55,646 --> 00:47:00,192 And I didn't wanna, respectfully, be Clay's mom in the long run. 1027 00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:03,570 -I didn't want that to be my story. -[Vanessa] Well, yeah. 1028 00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:06,907 [Nick] Clay, how was that conversation for you to watch? 1029 00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:09,117 Between your mom and your dad? 1030 00:47:09,201 --> 00:47:11,662 Uh, it was tough, I would say, you know. 1031 00:47:12,204 --> 00:47:17,084 We're still going through our family and... and searching for healing, so... 1032 00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:20,170 I think a lot of Black men could resonate with this 1033 00:47:20,254 --> 00:47:22,130 in terms of just having broken households. 1034 00:47:22,214 --> 00:47:26,969 But one thing about my parents is that they never made us feel any type of way. 1035 00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:29,680 They did their best to raise us, and that's their story. 1036 00:47:29,763 --> 00:47:31,139 And AD's mom said it best. 1037 00:47:31,223 --> 00:47:33,851 She said that I can't be taking on my parents' stuff. 1038 00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:35,102 I gotta do what's good for me. 1039 00:47:35,185 --> 00:47:37,646 And that's the reason why I took that approach to go to therapy, 1040 00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:41,775 so I could stop, you know, wearing the baggage that my parents left me 1041 00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:43,902 and, you know, go my own way. 1042 00:47:43,986 --> 00:47:45,654 [Nick] You mentioned the healing. 1043 00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:48,031 Part of that healing I think was... 1044 00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:51,827 I remember your mom tasking your father with apologizing to you 1045 00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:54,746 for some of the memories and the experiences you had as a youth 1046 00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:57,541 and how it's, maybe, shaped your path. 1047 00:47:57,624 --> 00:47:59,251 -Yeah. -[Nick] Has that apology happened? 1048 00:47:59,334 --> 00:48:02,254 Have you had that chance to have that moment with your father? 1049 00:48:03,005 --> 00:48:04,423 It's, uh, it's not... 1050 00:48:04,506 --> 00:48:07,342 Me and my dad have a great relationship in terms of our banter. 1051 00:48:07,426 --> 00:48:11,096 It hasn't been like, "I'm sorry," but in his way, it has been. 1052 00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:14,975 And I feel comfortable with his answer and who he is as a man. 1053 00:48:15,058 --> 00:48:18,061 I don't, like, throw any stones at him, 1054 00:48:18,145 --> 00:48:19,771 you know, 'cause my dad's a good father. 1055 00:48:19,855 --> 00:48:21,982 I just... It's my first time expressing 1056 00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:24,860 that this is something that is affecting me, 1057 00:48:24,943 --> 00:48:29,656 because you don't really see from men how to be a good husband. 1058 00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:33,452 It's always, like, "Happy wife, happy life." 1059 00:48:33,535 --> 00:48:36,121 You don't really hear the experience. 1060 00:48:36,204 --> 00:48:38,457 Especially as a guy like me, I was an athlete. 1061 00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:41,877 Just how to transition from going from a little bit of a rock star life 1062 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,962 to now you're just with one person. 1063 00:48:44,046 --> 00:48:46,673 There's really nobody that explains it, talks about it. 1064 00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:49,468 You're speaking of examples of how to be a good husband. 1065 00:48:49,551 --> 00:48:51,219 There was one conversation you had with AD 1066 00:48:51,303 --> 00:48:54,014 where you said you'd been watching Love Is Blind for the first time, 1067 00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:56,308 and it made you nervous because, as you said, 1068 00:48:56,391 --> 00:48:59,186 "That is what a husband is supposed to come like. Says the right things." 1069 00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:01,313 So I'm curious who in that moment 1070 00:49:01,396 --> 00:49:03,941 you were referring to when watching Love Is Blind. 1071 00:49:04,024 --> 00:49:06,443 [laughs] Uh, so it's very documented 1072 00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:08,570 I didn't watch Love Is Blind before I joined the show. 1073 00:49:08,654 --> 00:49:11,239 Actually, it was funny, when I seen AD and her mom, 1074 00:49:11,323 --> 00:49:14,534 they put on Love Is Blind season four, and I was referring to Brett. 1075 00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:16,828 -I thought that Brett was... -[chuckles] 1076 00:49:16,912 --> 00:49:19,623 [Clay] I felt like he did everything. He said all the right things. 1077 00:49:19,706 --> 00:49:24,795 He just personified as a good Black man or a good husband... 1078 00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:26,630 Not even Black man, just a good husband. 1079 00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:29,466 And you know, I just looked at him, and I was like, "I don't think that 1080 00:49:30,384 --> 00:49:33,053 who I am could do at all what Brett did." 1081 00:49:33,136 --> 00:49:34,596 It was a little pessimistic thought. 1082 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,516 But even with that, you know, I give myself grace. 1083 00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:38,934 I do it in my own way. 1084 00:49:39,017 --> 00:49:41,186 And I'm not even happy with that comment, 1085 00:49:41,269 --> 00:49:44,564 but the compliment is I do think Brett is a stand-up guy. 1086 00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:47,401 And I was just looking and, you know, thinking of that sense. 1087 00:49:47,484 --> 00:49:50,112 We're lucky to have Brett and Tiffany with us here today. 1088 00:49:50,195 --> 00:49:51,154 Guys. 1089 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,661 [Vanessa] How does that make you feel hearing that, Brett? 1090 00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,580 Ooh. I just wanna say thank you, man. 1091 00:50:00,664 --> 00:50:04,459 Um, that's not... it's very humbling to hear, honestly. 1092 00:50:04,543 --> 00:50:05,669 Um... 1093 00:50:06,628 --> 00:50:09,923 I don't know why I'm getting emotional talking because, um... 1094 00:50:11,591 --> 00:50:14,803 Like, I didn't really come from, like, the perfect household either, 1095 00:50:14,886 --> 00:50:18,724 in terms of my mom and my dad and their relationship. 1096 00:50:18,807 --> 00:50:22,102 Um, and there was a lot of things that I was concerned 1097 00:50:22,185 --> 00:50:25,480 about how I would show up going through this experiment. 1098 00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:26,606 Um... 1099 00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:30,736 And as a credit to her, like, she created the space for me to, 1100 00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:35,782 um... be the person that I knew that I could be. 1101 00:50:36,408 --> 00:50:40,579 Um, and, you know, it's... it's very humbling to hear. 1102 00:50:41,163 --> 00:50:43,665 Um, but even going through everything, 1103 00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:47,127 I had a lot of doubts, and I was very concerned about, like, 1104 00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:48,712 am I gonna be a good husband? 1105 00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:52,174 Yeah, we good now while we're filming, but, like, when the cameras are off, 1106 00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:54,009 am I gonna know how to show up? 1107 00:50:54,092 --> 00:50:55,719 Am I gonna know how to be the husband 1108 00:50:55,802 --> 00:50:59,514 that she expects me to be and the husband that I want to be? 1109 00:50:59,598 --> 00:51:02,642 -You know? Hope I'm doing good. -[laughs] You're doing great, babe. 1110 00:51:02,726 --> 00:51:05,187 -[laughing] -[Brett] Uh, but, um... 1111 00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:09,399 Yeah, man, I just... it's very humbling to hear that. 1112 00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:10,817 Especially, you know, 1113 00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:13,987 Black man to Black man, you know, it's, um... 1114 00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:16,198 I'm humbled. Thank you. 1115 00:51:16,281 --> 00:51:17,115 All good. 1116 00:51:21,536 --> 00:51:24,414 Tiffany, how is Brett showing up in the husband department? 1117 00:51:24,498 --> 00:51:27,292 -He's doing all right? -Oh! He's doing more than all right. 1118 00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:29,836 -[Nick laughs] No doubts. -And I think it's great. 1119 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,923 Because every day I fall more in love with him. 1120 00:51:33,006 --> 00:51:35,926 -So, you're doing great. -[all laughing] 1121 00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:37,719 What's ahead for the two of you? Catch us up. 1122 00:51:37,803 --> 00:51:41,348 Well, I mean, Brett and I have just been traveling the world. 1123 00:51:41,431 --> 00:51:45,393 Um, we actually have a trip coming up in April to Japan. 1124 00:51:45,477 --> 00:51:47,813 Which I know is one of your favorite places. 1125 00:51:47,896 --> 00:51:51,566 Um, and we are laying down some roots in Portland. 1126 00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:53,318 We're actually looking for homes right now. 1127 00:51:53,401 --> 00:51:55,570 It'll be our first home, so... 1128 00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:58,115 Um, I'm excited to get that started. 1129 00:51:58,198 --> 00:52:01,159 I love it. Well, thank you for being here today with us. 1130 00:52:01,243 --> 00:52:02,661 You're happy in love. 1131 00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:06,915 And talking about happy in love with our couple this season, 1132 00:52:06,998 --> 00:52:12,129 {\an8}Johnny and Amy, you guys also have a fun and funky relationship. 1133 00:52:12,212 --> 00:52:14,297 {\an8}We've actually got a look back at some highlights. 1134 00:52:14,381 --> 00:52:17,259 {\an8}-From your first year of marriage. Look. -Oh, God. [laughs] 1135 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:21,096 {\an8}All right, so today on Johnny's kitchen, 1136 00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:24,808 {\an8}we're gonna be making some... [laughs] 1137 00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:27,477 {\an8}We're actually gonna be feeding me a little tomato. 1138 00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:29,104 {\an8}We have tomatoes down there. 1139 00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:31,189 {\an8}So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna grab my tomato. 1140 00:52:31,273 --> 00:52:34,484 {\an8}I'm gonna open it up. Uh, there I go. I'm gonna go... 1141 00:52:35,527 --> 00:52:37,529 {\an8}-Oh! -[laughing] 1142 00:52:38,363 --> 00:52:40,907 {\an8}-[Amy mutters] -Yummy, yummy, in my tummy. 1143 00:52:41,992 --> 00:52:45,704 {\an8}[laughing] 1144 00:52:45,787 --> 00:52:48,832 [Johnny, Amy] Three, two, one! 1145 00:52:48,915 --> 00:52:50,292 [shouting] 1146 00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:52,335 [woman 22] Yeah! 1147 00:52:53,587 --> 00:52:56,798 -Happy New Year, babe. -Happy New Year! 1148 00:52:56,882 --> 00:52:59,009 [both laugh] 1149 00:52:59,092 --> 00:53:01,720 {\an8}-The things I do for her! -[shouts] 1150 00:53:01,803 --> 00:53:03,138 {\an8}-[laughing] -[Amy] Oh! 1151 00:53:03,221 --> 00:53:04,139 {\an8}[pop music playing] 1152 00:53:04,222 --> 00:53:05,390 {\an8}-You've done that. -Yeah. 1153 00:53:05,473 --> 00:53:06,558 {\an8}[Johnny] Wife! 1154 00:53:06,641 --> 00:53:09,311 {\an8}♪ Do it for me, the love gonna be ♪ 1155 00:53:12,397 --> 00:53:14,691 -[Nick] Wow! You guys, uh... -[Vanessa] Yeah! 1156 00:53:16,943 --> 00:53:20,030 You packed a lot into your first year of marriage. That's awesome. 1157 00:53:20,113 --> 00:53:21,323 -We're trying. -Absolutely. 1158 00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:23,783 Since you guys are new to this whole marriage thing, 1159 00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:27,662 let's ask you this, what's the best thing about your spouse? 1160 00:53:28,496 --> 00:53:30,665 I don't know. I feel it's kind of everything. 1161 00:53:30,749 --> 00:53:34,753 Like the fact that you don't just jump the gun to assumptions, 1162 00:53:34,836 --> 00:53:37,672 and you actually hear me out for things I say, 1163 00:53:37,756 --> 00:53:39,758 things I ask, just questions in general 1164 00:53:39,841 --> 00:53:42,677 and really wanna know where I'm coming from, from a place of love. 1165 00:53:44,095 --> 00:53:45,388 That's probably the biggest one. 1166 00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:49,267 He's just so gentle and caring and loving. 1167 00:53:49,351 --> 00:53:51,728 Like, I couldn't have had a better man. 1168 00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:54,356 -Like, forever grateful for him. -Thank you, baby. 1169 00:53:54,439 --> 00:53:55,982 -For sure. -[Vanessa] Aww. 1170 00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:57,943 I remember you said in one of the episodes 1171 00:53:58,026 --> 00:54:00,028 that you wanted to have, like, a drag-out fight. 1172 00:54:00,111 --> 00:54:01,404 So it's been a year. 1173 00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:03,448 -[Nick laughs] -[Vanessa] Have y'all had a fight? 1174 00:54:03,531 --> 00:54:05,992 -Not really! No. -[laughing] 1175 00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:09,829 [Johnny] It's really, like, weird to think about it, but... 1176 00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:12,332 it has been relatively easy. 1177 00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:14,084 -Granted, we have disagreements. -Yeah. 1178 00:54:14,167 --> 00:54:16,503 -But it's, like, we just talk. -[Vanessa] All right. 1179 00:54:16,586 --> 00:54:18,546 So who does the household chores? 1180 00:54:19,297 --> 00:54:21,299 [Amy] Both of us, but he beats me to it. 1181 00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:23,718 -He beats me to it for sure. -[Vanessa] He beats you to it? 1182 00:54:23,802 --> 00:54:25,971 Especially when it comes to laundry and dishes. 1183 00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,723 -I just... He's on top of it. -Jeramey, just like you. 1184 00:54:28,807 --> 00:54:31,309 I cannot stand when dishes are in the sink that are dirty. 1185 00:54:31,393 --> 00:54:33,478 -So I do it right away. -[Amy] Yeah. 1186 00:54:34,229 --> 00:54:38,108 I will say, like, between that and then you stacking up the plates, Clay, 1187 00:54:38,858 --> 00:54:40,527 we got a clean little group of men. 1188 00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:42,737 -I love that! I love that. -[Vanessa] Yeah. 1189 00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:47,242 Okay, well, social media has been lighting up this season, 1190 00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:49,494 and we have some viewer questions 1191 00:54:49,577 --> 00:54:53,581 that our former cast members are gonna help get some answers to. 1192 00:54:54,207 --> 00:54:58,128 {\an8}-So, Chelsea, hey. -Hi. 1193 00:54:58,211 --> 00:55:01,798 -[Vanessa] You have our first question. -Awesome, this is for Jessica. 1194 00:55:01,881 --> 00:55:05,135 "Jessica, what does Autumn think of all of this?" 1195 00:55:05,218 --> 00:55:07,262 "And did you let her watch the show?" 1196 00:55:07,345 --> 00:55:09,514 I've seen that question a lot too. 1197 00:55:09,597 --> 00:55:14,019 Um, Autumn is still over the moon excited. 1198 00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:18,148 She's loving it. I didn't let her watch the show in its entirety. 1199 00:55:18,231 --> 00:55:21,693 I mean, she's met mostly all of the female cast. 1200 00:55:21,776 --> 00:55:23,862 And there are certain things, like... 1201 00:55:24,529 --> 00:55:26,323 I don't want her being, like, 1202 00:55:26,406 --> 00:55:29,284 "Who was Aunt Chelsea talking about when she said..." You know? 1203 00:55:29,826 --> 00:55:33,288 So, she loves it, but, honestly, 1204 00:55:33,371 --> 00:55:35,540 I didn't even realize this before I went, 1205 00:55:35,623 --> 00:55:38,335 Autumn had actually really never even seen me cry before. 1206 00:55:38,418 --> 00:55:43,381 Like, my whole, you know, thing with her has always been, like, I'm strong. 1207 00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:45,759 Like, you know, and moms get it, 1208 00:55:45,842 --> 00:55:47,761 Like, your breakdowns have to be, like, scheduled. 1209 00:55:47,844 --> 00:55:50,388 Like, you can't just have a moment in the middle of the day. 1210 00:55:50,472 --> 00:55:52,432 But in a way, it's been a huge blessing, 1211 00:55:52,515 --> 00:55:55,435 because it's allowed her to see me be a little bit more human. 1212 00:55:56,144 --> 00:55:58,146 Which in turn is gonna help her. 1213 00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:01,441 God, I cannot talk about her without losing it. 1214 00:56:01,524 --> 00:56:02,359 [laughing] 1215 00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:05,195 [Jessica] It will help her know that... 1216 00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:08,698 Crying and showing your emotions doesn't make you weak, and it's okay. 1217 00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:12,285 So anyway, to wrap that up, she loves it, and yeah. 1218 00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:14,120 [Vanessa] Thank you, Jess. 1219 00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:15,914 -Thank you, Chelsea. -[Chelsea 1] Thank you. 1220 00:56:15,997 --> 00:56:17,832 [Vanessa] Gigi, you've the next question. 1221 00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:20,085 This is for Johnny and Amy. 1222 00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:23,797 It says, "I'm confused. Were condoms not an option?" 1223 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,965 [laughing] 1224 00:56:26,591 --> 00:56:28,843 Clearly, I'm the poster child for birth control. 1225 00:56:28,927 --> 00:56:29,844 [laughing] 1226 00:56:29,928 --> 00:56:33,181 Yes, uh, condoms were always an option. 1227 00:56:33,681 --> 00:56:36,684 I think the big thing that I really wanna point out is that 1228 00:56:37,268 --> 00:56:41,272 I didn't really know too much about the whole topic of birth control at all 1229 00:56:41,898 --> 00:56:44,275 until I really had the first conversation with Amy. 1230 00:56:44,776 --> 00:56:46,986 After that, we basically went back to our corners, 1231 00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:48,863 did more research on the whole subject, 1232 00:56:48,947 --> 00:56:51,658 and then we came back and found, like, an actual reason of, 1233 00:56:51,741 --> 00:56:54,577 "Hey, let's move forward with this specific option." 1234 00:56:54,661 --> 00:56:58,581 Um, but something I really never had to think about I feel like as a guy 1235 00:56:58,665 --> 00:57:00,458 because it wasn't something that I was... 1236 00:57:01,376 --> 00:57:02,710 thinking about constantly. 1237 00:57:03,211 --> 00:57:06,840 [Amy] And there were continuous conversations too, and I feel like, 1238 00:57:06,923 --> 00:57:08,883 respectfully, I had to educate him a lot. [laughs] 1239 00:57:09,467 --> 00:57:11,803 But, um, you know, we figured it out. 1240 00:57:11,886 --> 00:57:13,638 I never ended up going on birth control. 1241 00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:16,683 He never got a vasectomy. I was never forced to do anything. 1242 00:57:16,766 --> 00:57:19,394 Otherwise, we would've been on separate ends of the couch. 1243 00:57:19,477 --> 00:57:22,355 But yeah, no, we figured it out. And that's all that matters. 1244 00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:25,483 -Good. You guys had a lot of discipline. -[Amy] Yeah. 1245 00:57:25,567 --> 00:57:27,777 [laughing] 1246 00:57:27,861 --> 00:57:31,239 [Nick] Uh, I think Alexa has our next question. 1247 00:57:31,322 --> 00:57:35,869 Okay, so Sarah Ann, she has taken a lot of heat for her DM that she sent, 1248 00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:38,288 but, Chelsea, I have a question for you. 1249 00:57:38,371 --> 00:57:40,165 "What did you think about the conversation 1250 00:57:40,248 --> 00:57:43,376 Jessica and Laura had about Jimmy when they met up at the bar?" 1251 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:45,336 "Did you think it was appropriate?" 1252 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:50,467 It was an odd conversation for me to see and actually witness it, 1253 00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,928 because it was a little bit disrespectful to my relationship, 1254 00:57:54,012 --> 00:57:55,889 when I'm going through the trenches, 1255 00:57:55,972 --> 00:57:58,558 trying to figure out, like, "Is this my man?" 1256 00:57:58,641 --> 00:58:00,185 Like, "How do we make it work?" 1257 00:58:00,268 --> 00:58:04,898 And I, obviously, it's not a secret, had insecurities during the show. 1258 00:58:04,981 --> 00:58:08,443 And, you know, it kind of just added to that feeling, 1259 00:58:08,526 --> 00:58:11,571 so, um, it hurt a little bit, 1260 00:58:12,197 --> 00:58:15,742 but Jess and I are on really good terms. I love you with my whole heart. 1261 00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:18,495 I didn't have any malicious intent, 1262 00:58:18,578 --> 00:58:22,123 but it was completely absent-minded. That's one of my best friends. 1263 00:58:22,207 --> 00:58:24,417 And this is wildly disrespectful. 1264 00:58:25,293 --> 00:58:27,962 And I don't expect any grace for that. That was not my best moment. 1265 00:58:28,546 --> 00:58:30,256 [Vanessa] Thanks, Alexa. 1266 00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:33,593 We have Tiffany. Hey, girl. 1267 00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:34,844 You have the next question. 1268 00:58:35,428 --> 00:58:36,262 Sarah Ann. 1269 00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:40,058 [laughs] "So does Jeramey share his location with you?" 1270 00:58:40,141 --> 00:58:43,269 -[laughing] -He does. He does. 1271 00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:46,981 -And he does that willingly, so, um... -Apparently, that's my thing. 1272 00:58:47,065 --> 00:58:48,858 [laughing] 1273 00:58:49,776 --> 00:58:52,695 [Nick] Our next question is coming from Micah. 1274 00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:54,364 -[Micah] Oh, my God. -[Nick] What's up? 1275 00:58:54,447 --> 00:58:56,533 -Yay, I wanted to get involved! Okay. -[laughing] 1276 00:58:57,575 --> 00:58:58,993 Okay. Mine's for Jimmy. 1277 00:58:59,577 --> 00:59:00,787 What did your friend think 1278 00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:03,873 about Chelsea sharing your little secret with the world? 1279 00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:06,501 [audience] Ooh! 1280 00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:12,173 [Jimmy] Um, you know, I knew coming on a TV show, 1281 00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:13,758 I'm putting myself out there. 1282 00:59:13,841 --> 00:59:17,053 Um, she didn't deserve that, and... 1283 00:59:18,429 --> 00:59:21,474 She didn't love hearing it. She was there for me as a friend 1284 00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:24,310 and someone that loved me. Someone that wanted to support me. 1285 00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:27,355 You know, I got a ton of dude friends in my life, but with... 1286 00:59:28,398 --> 00:59:32,443 When I'm talking to guys, I'm not getting emotional with the fellas. 1287 00:59:32,527 --> 00:59:36,322 The girls will, like, let me lay into them about where I'm at with everything. 1288 00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:40,618 I was trying so hard in my relationship, and they came on to support me. 1289 00:59:40,702 --> 00:59:42,412 They came on to be a friend to her, 1290 00:59:43,621 --> 00:59:44,998 and I told... I told... 1291 00:59:45,081 --> 00:59:48,209 [chuckles] I'm getting ahead of myself. I told you out of confidence. 1292 00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:49,836 And they felt... 1293 00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:52,630 One of them is really pissed off at me for mentioning it. 1294 00:59:52,714 --> 00:59:54,882 -[Micah] Yeah. -So I told her about them in the pods. 1295 00:59:54,966 --> 00:59:57,051 I was very forward. 1296 00:59:57,135 --> 01:00:00,430 Also, she had an ex-boyfriend that she still hangs out with. 1297 01:00:00,513 --> 01:00:04,183 -I don't. I don't hang out with him. -All right, well, I misheard you, sorry. 1298 01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:07,103 I think we misheard each other in a lot of things, to be honest. 1299 01:00:07,186 --> 01:00:11,065 But I hated that all this came out so bad, and... 1300 01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:16,529 "I can take it, they didn't deserve it" is the main way I can put it. 1301 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:18,448 But I would be robbing her if I didn't tell her. 1302 01:00:18,531 --> 01:00:21,242 I told her because I was planning to get married to her, 1303 01:00:21,326 --> 01:00:23,494 and she needed to know every bit of me. 1304 01:00:23,578 --> 01:00:25,705 -I get that, for sure. -[Nick] I'm curious. 1305 01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:27,915 The rest of you, how do you feel about 1306 01:00:27,999 --> 01:00:32,837 this situation of Jimmy sharing a secret with Chelsea 1307 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,007 and her sharing that secret on camera? 1308 01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:39,052 Who thinks that the secret shared in confidence 1309 01:00:39,135 --> 01:00:41,137 shouldn't have been repeated on camera? 1310 01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:44,182 -Yeah. -Maybe don't say the bean dip thing. 1311 01:00:44,265 --> 01:00:45,850 That was in confidence too, so... 1312 01:00:45,933 --> 01:00:48,269 -[Vanessa] Say the what? Oh. -Yeah. Nothing. 1313 01:00:48,353 --> 01:00:50,271 -[Vanessa] We going back to bean dip? -[laughing] 1314 01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:52,899 [Nick] Do you guys think she had a right to say that on camera? 1315 01:00:53,483 --> 01:00:55,610 If they had the conversation in confidence, 1316 01:00:55,693 --> 01:00:57,945 then I don't think that she should've. 1317 01:00:58,029 --> 01:00:59,697 But I also get, you know, 1318 01:00:59,781 --> 01:01:02,408 I'mma give Chelsea some grace. It's an emotional experience. 1319 01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,577 [Micah] I think that also if it was something 1320 01:01:04,661 --> 01:01:07,705 that was affecting her and affecting their relationship, she has to show it. 1321 01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:11,626 I'm sure a lot of her comments back to him and feelings back to him 1322 01:01:11,709 --> 01:01:14,128 were coming from a place of hurt from that information. 1323 01:01:14,212 --> 01:01:17,340 -[Jimmy] Yeah. -100%. It's a real-life relationship. 1324 01:01:17,423 --> 01:01:20,218 That was a huge issue, and it was really sitting on me. 1325 01:01:20,301 --> 01:01:22,970 And I apologize more than... 1326 01:01:23,054 --> 01:01:25,348 I could never apologize enough 1327 01:01:25,431 --> 01:01:28,601 for how horrible I feel for bringing it up and ruining that trust. 1328 01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:30,603 'Cause it ruined everything. 1329 01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:35,733 And it was just a true issue that I just couldn't get off my chest, 1330 01:01:35,817 --> 01:01:37,151 and it coming out was just... 1331 01:01:37,735 --> 01:01:38,986 I forget about the cameras. 1332 01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:40,905 I didn't even realize the cameras were there. 1333 01:01:40,988 --> 01:01:46,619 It was just a huge argument that just blew up, and I'm really sorry. 1334 01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:50,248 We've talked about it a hundred times, and we even tried to work through it. 1335 01:01:50,331 --> 01:01:53,292 Um, ultimately, she has feelings that, 1336 01:01:53,376 --> 01:01:54,877 you know, made her feel a certain way. 1337 01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:58,047 She has the right to speak up on that. She's not in the wrong for saying it. 1338 01:01:58,131 --> 01:02:00,007 I just didn't love the fashion how it came up. 1339 01:02:00,091 --> 01:02:04,262 Me neither, my guy, me neither. That was awful. Absolutely awful. 1340 01:02:05,722 --> 01:02:09,350 [Nick] Jimmy, looking back on that, do you think that was a defining moment 1341 01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,520 in your guys' relationship together? 1342 01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:13,730 Yeah, absolutely. 1343 01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:16,315 I can see it in my eyes when I'm speaking. 1344 01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:18,109 Everything after that. 1345 01:02:18,192 --> 01:02:22,155 That, you know, we were kind of going through the motions. 1346 01:02:22,238 --> 01:02:25,616 And it's easy to see in hindsight what was the right decision. 1347 01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:29,454 And the right decision would've been for me to let you go at that point. 1348 01:02:29,537 --> 01:02:33,583 Um, but I drug it on partially because we loved each other so much. 1349 01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:36,919 [Nick] I'm curious to hear from everybody else up here. 1350 01:02:37,003 --> 01:02:40,757 You guys all got to watch their story kind of unfold in real-time, 1351 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,511 but then watching it back and seeing more of what happened behind closed doors, 1352 01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:48,639 did it change your perception of them as a couple, 1353 01:02:48,723 --> 01:02:51,726 change your perception of what they were going through, what they were living? 1354 01:02:51,809 --> 01:02:52,810 [AD] It did for me. 1355 01:02:52,894 --> 01:02:56,355 [exhales] Um, I know Chelsea is so fun 1356 01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:58,775 and bubbly and outgoing 1357 01:02:58,858 --> 01:03:00,568 and just carefree, 1358 01:03:00,651 --> 01:03:02,779 and to see her, like, that way 1359 01:03:02,862 --> 01:03:06,115 and, like, the insecurities be highlighted like that 1360 01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:09,869 was really, really, really tough to watch, because we don't know that side of you. 1361 01:03:09,952 --> 01:03:12,413 We know this very confident and very proud woman. 1362 01:03:12,497 --> 01:03:16,793 And so to see you kind of go through that emotional roller coaster... 1363 01:03:16,876 --> 01:03:19,420 -[Chelsea 2] Mm-hmm. Yeah. -That was wild to watch. 1364 01:03:19,504 --> 01:03:21,297 -[Vanessa] Thank you guys for sharing. - Yeah. 1365 01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:22,256 [Vanessa] Jessica. 1366 01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:24,425 Hey, girl. 1367 01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:27,553 Um, I wanna take it back to the lake party 1368 01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:31,015 when you and Jimmy were having a conversation. 1369 01:03:31,098 --> 01:03:33,893 There seemed to be some sparks flying, 1370 01:03:33,976 --> 01:03:35,561 lots of chemistry. 1371 01:03:35,645 --> 01:03:39,524 Like, I don't feel like I was feeling chemistry. 1372 01:03:39,607 --> 01:03:41,859 I think I was still attached to, like... 1373 01:03:42,735 --> 01:03:44,862 You heard me say earlier in the season, 1374 01:03:44,946 --> 01:03:48,157 um, like, he has a part of me I feel like I'll never get back. 1375 01:03:48,241 --> 01:03:50,868 And being able to, like, be in front of him in person 1376 01:03:50,952 --> 01:03:53,162 and feeling like he does still have that. 1377 01:03:53,246 --> 01:03:56,791 And I was happy, because I still feel grateful for it 1378 01:03:56,874 --> 01:03:59,085 that I was able to share those moments 1379 01:03:59,168 --> 01:04:01,254 and share things about myself with someone. 1380 01:04:01,337 --> 01:04:03,381 -Yeah. -But I think he and I both agreed. 1381 01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:06,509 It was an unspoken thing that we knew it wouldn't have worked. 1382 01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:08,302 [Nick] You agree? 1383 01:04:08,970 --> 01:04:11,514 Yeah, I mean, I was very eager to meet her, 1384 01:04:11,597 --> 01:04:14,851 but, you know, I'm an engaged man, and I was there for Chelsea at that point, 1385 01:04:14,934 --> 01:04:19,146 and I wanted to make sure she knew I was all hands on deck there. 1386 01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:20,857 Um, but I think that conversation, 1387 01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:23,484 obviously, there was a ton of chemistry between the two of us, 1388 01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:27,530 and when we connected, it was more of a friend thing. 1389 01:04:27,613 --> 01:04:30,324 Kind of... It's... It's weird. 1390 01:04:30,408 --> 01:04:33,661 It is a weird feeling having two women tell you they love you. 1391 01:04:33,744 --> 01:04:37,164 And I truthfully hope I never have that happen to me ever again. 1392 01:04:37,248 --> 01:04:38,457 [laughing] 1393 01:04:38,541 --> 01:04:42,420 Viewers obviously got to see that moment where you guys saw each other at the lake. 1394 01:04:42,503 --> 01:04:44,964 But they were disappointed they didn't get a chance 1395 01:04:45,631 --> 01:04:49,760 to see your reaction when you saw a picture of her for the very first time. 1396 01:04:49,844 --> 01:04:51,012 So, Jimmy, be honest. 1397 01:04:51,512 --> 01:04:53,389 Did you in fact choke... 1398 01:04:53,472 --> 01:04:54,473 [all laughing] 1399 01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:57,894 ...as Jessica predicted you would, when you saw that picture? 1400 01:04:59,103 --> 01:05:01,814 Jess doesn't need me to tell her this, but you're absolutely stunning. 1401 01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:03,566 -You're gorgeous. -Thank you so much. 1402 01:05:03,649 --> 01:05:05,818 [Vanessa] There's a moment that you talked about, Jimmy, 1403 01:05:05,902 --> 01:05:08,404 you following her on social media 1404 01:05:08,487 --> 01:05:10,615 and then really quickly unfollowing her. 1405 01:05:10,698 --> 01:05:13,200 I did follow her along with everybody else at the same time 1406 01:05:13,284 --> 01:05:14,702 the moment I got my phone back. 1407 01:05:14,785 --> 01:05:17,580 Um, yeah, I was eager to see her, I've already hit on that. 1408 01:05:17,663 --> 01:05:21,167 But, um, I did withdraw it. 1409 01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:22,543 I mean, she... 1410 01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:24,921 She saw it. 1411 01:05:25,004 --> 01:05:28,841 I was giving... I was giving her the nod of approval 1412 01:05:28,925 --> 01:05:31,886 that I'm curious to see, and I don't know. 1413 01:05:31,969 --> 01:05:35,431 It just became a weird thing to me, and so I just withdrew it. 1414 01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,559 Went private. "You're not gonna look at my profile either." 1415 01:05:38,643 --> 01:05:43,230 But, apparently, you already did your own digging before that, so... 1416 01:05:43,314 --> 01:05:45,858 Yeah, I mean, no, I saw your friend request come through 1417 01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:47,902 and I was like, "Is that who I think it is?" 1418 01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:49,528 And I was like, "Oh, my God, it is." 1419 01:05:49,612 --> 01:05:51,656 "Well, he's the one who has his profile on public." 1420 01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:53,574 "Like, this is why I have mine on private." 1421 01:05:53,658 --> 01:05:56,160 So when you followed her, is that when you saw the picture? 1422 01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:59,872 Jeramey showed me the picture in the gym when we were working out. 1423 01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:02,291 [Vanessa] Jeramey! 1424 01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:05,086 It came up in a conversation, and I was, like, "Oh, yeah." 1425 01:06:05,169 --> 01:06:06,879 [Vanessa] You and Chelsea are best friends. 1426 01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:09,048 I love that. Your daughter calls her Auntie Chelsea. 1427 01:06:09,131 --> 01:06:10,675 Are you and Jimmy friends? 1428 01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:13,135 I thought we were. 1429 01:06:15,012 --> 01:06:16,764 I did. Um... 1430 01:06:16,847 --> 01:06:20,017 After the lake party, I mean, you guys saw, we left on great terms. 1431 01:06:20,101 --> 01:06:23,771 And then when the show came out, I knew it might be bad for him. 1432 01:06:23,854 --> 01:06:27,149 I didn't think it was going to be to the extent that it was. 1433 01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:29,777 All the hate that he and Chelsea were receiving. 1434 01:06:29,860 --> 01:06:31,904 And I was mortified by it. 1435 01:06:31,988 --> 01:06:35,074 I sent him a message, and I told Chelsea about it when I sent it. 1436 01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:37,868 I said, "Hey, listen, like, I'm not finding enjoyment 1437 01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:41,372 in seeing people drag you through hell." 1438 01:06:41,455 --> 01:06:44,417 There's some things rightfully so you should be given a hard time on. 1439 01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,043 But some things people were upset about, 1440 01:06:46,127 --> 01:06:48,713 I was like, "I'm not gonna let you be bullied into oblivion." 1441 01:06:48,796 --> 01:06:51,924 "When the time comes, I'm not gonna let you go out like that." 1442 01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:54,844 And then, like, you've seen us joke on social media 1443 01:06:54,927 --> 01:06:56,721 and, like, comment on each other's stuff. 1444 01:06:56,804 --> 01:07:00,266 And then I saw an interview that you did recently. 1445 01:07:02,643 --> 01:07:04,020 And I was infuriated. 1446 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,273 -What part? -[Jessica] I've had plenty of interviews. 1447 01:07:07,356 --> 01:07:09,608 And I've taken every opportunity I've had 1448 01:07:09,692 --> 01:07:12,611 to speak highly of you, our experience, 1449 01:07:12,695 --> 01:07:15,614 how grateful I am to have had it with you and everything. 1450 01:07:15,698 --> 01:07:18,909 And it seemed like you took the first opportunity you had 1451 01:07:19,744 --> 01:07:24,331 to just, I guess, make an attempt at throwing me under the bus, 1452 01:07:24,415 --> 01:07:26,709 but also just flat-out, bald-faced lie. 1453 01:07:26,792 --> 01:07:29,253 You said that I hammered you about 1454 01:07:29,336 --> 01:07:32,673 wanting to continue to explore your connections, which wasn't true. 1455 01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:35,134 It seemed multiple times, I'm telling you, 1456 01:07:35,217 --> 01:07:37,344 when and if you choose me, I want you to be sure of it, 1457 01:07:37,428 --> 01:07:40,306 so please explore and do whatever you need to do. 1458 01:07:40,389 --> 01:07:43,642 And then you also said that ten minutes into our... 1459 01:07:44,185 --> 01:07:47,438 one of our last dates, I just stormed out, which also isn't true. 1460 01:07:47,521 --> 01:07:49,565 -[Jimmy] You did. -[Jessica] We were in for an hour. 1461 01:07:49,648 --> 01:07:53,402 It is also shown that I said, "Listen, at this point, it feels forced, 1462 01:07:53,486 --> 01:07:56,322 and I think that we should take an intermission," which you agreed to. 1463 01:07:56,405 --> 01:07:58,115 You said, "I think that's a good idea." 1464 01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:02,703 So I was just so caught off guard by what motivated you, 1465 01:08:02,787 --> 01:08:04,121 like, what provoked you 1466 01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:07,750 and what made you wanna say, like, horrible things about me. 1467 01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,752 [Jimmy] I have a side, 1468 01:08:09,835 --> 01:08:12,338 'cause I'm being asked why I didn't choose you. 1469 01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:15,174 And that's part of the reason, 1470 01:08:15,257 --> 01:08:18,010 the way you talked to me during our last date, 1471 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,386 you leaving the date early. 1472 01:08:19,470 --> 01:08:22,890 I'm sorry if that's throwing shade at you. 1473 01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:25,142 Did you not want me to leave the date early? 1474 01:08:25,851 --> 01:08:27,186 [Jimmy] No, I wanted you to stay. 1475 01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:28,729 Why did you agree with me and say, 1476 01:08:28,813 --> 01:08:31,190 "I agree, I think we should take an intermission"? 1477 01:08:31,273 --> 01:08:33,692 Actually, you said, "I think we should stop." 1478 01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:36,529 If you wanted me to stay, why didn't you ask me to stay and work it out? 1479 01:08:36,612 --> 01:08:40,533 I... That was after the fact that we went through 1480 01:08:40,616 --> 01:08:42,868 the period of time where I told you, um... 1481 01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:46,622 Like, you were literally saying, "What else do you freakin' need from me?" 1482 01:08:46,705 --> 01:08:49,458 I was like, "Well, I wanna learn a bit more about you." 1483 01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:53,754 And you're like... Your tone of voice was just offsetting for me, and... 1484 01:08:54,922 --> 01:08:56,257 I didn't say horrible things. 1485 01:08:56,340 --> 01:08:59,093 I said you walked out on our date when I still hadn't made a decision. 1486 01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:01,512 [Jessica] You said I stormed out in ten minutes. 1487 01:09:02,596 --> 01:09:05,224 After you read my letter and had nothing to say back. 1488 01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:07,893 I know I didn't have the reaction you wanted to. 1489 01:09:07,977 --> 01:09:09,019 That's two questions, 1490 01:09:09,103 --> 01:09:11,188 but I didn't have the reaction you wanted there. 1491 01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:12,690 And I couldn't give it to you. 1492 01:09:12,773 --> 01:09:17,528 It would've been manipulative to tell you "I love you" if I didn't feel it. 1493 01:09:17,611 --> 01:09:20,322 Um, I read it because you gave it to me. 1494 01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,534 Maybe I shouldn't have read it. I think we both can agree to that. 1495 01:09:23,617 --> 01:09:24,451 Um... 1496 01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:26,745 I wasn't looking for you to tell me that you loved me. 1497 01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:30,291 It's even shown that I say that. I said, "Just give me something." 1498 01:09:30,374 --> 01:09:32,918 Okay, well, you were on the girls' side saying you loved me. 1499 01:09:33,002 --> 01:09:34,545 You never voiced that to me. 1500 01:09:34,628 --> 01:09:38,883 So there was... there was two sides to not voicing our opinions. 1501 01:09:38,966 --> 01:09:41,760 You never once told me you loved me. I don't know why I have to go first. 1502 01:09:42,261 --> 01:09:43,929 I wanted you to say it first. 1503 01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:46,390 I felt like I had given you so much 1504 01:09:46,473 --> 01:09:49,185 and shared the most intimate details of myself, 1505 01:09:49,768 --> 01:09:52,062 my daughter, my past. 1506 01:09:52,146 --> 01:09:53,480 The things I shared with you, 1507 01:09:53,564 --> 01:09:56,192 I've never shared in any relationship I've ever been in. 1508 01:09:56,275 --> 01:09:57,234 I felt like 1509 01:09:57,318 --> 01:10:00,070 the least you could've done was just meet me with... 1510 01:10:00,154 --> 01:10:02,990 If it wasn't an "I love you," just your feelings. 1511 01:10:03,073 --> 01:10:04,200 Period. 1512 01:10:04,283 --> 01:10:07,161 Were you looking for her to say "I love you"? Were you waiting on that? 1513 01:10:07,244 --> 01:10:09,455 Was that something that would've been meaningful to you? 1514 01:10:09,538 --> 01:10:14,335 No, and I'm kind of backtracking and going to her leaving the date early. 1515 01:10:14,418 --> 01:10:15,502 That did happen. 1516 01:10:16,086 --> 01:10:17,254 An hour and a half into it. 1517 01:10:17,338 --> 01:10:19,506 -Not ten minutes. -[Jimmy] Um... 1518 01:10:20,299 --> 01:10:23,886 I maybe give you 45 minutes, but it felt like ten minutes to me. 1519 01:10:23,969 --> 01:10:25,638 Your perception was ten minutes. 1520 01:10:25,721 --> 01:10:27,473 You're, like, "I'll give you 45." 1521 01:10:27,556 --> 01:10:29,308 You went in an interview 1522 01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:32,311 and said that's actually how it happened. 1523 01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:33,771 Not "this is how I felt." 1524 01:10:33,854 --> 01:10:35,564 But "yeah, this is actually how it happened." 1525 01:10:35,648 --> 01:10:39,318 And then you said, "I'm really proud of the edit that she had." 1526 01:10:39,902 --> 01:10:40,736 As if 1527 01:10:41,779 --> 01:10:44,657 every last thing I did 1528 01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:47,660 wasn't real. 1529 01:10:48,786 --> 01:10:52,957 It wasn't an edit. It wasn't. No one did me any favors. 1530 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,875 And I've been the first to say, 1531 01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:58,212 when I had that wine night with Laura, that wasn't my best moment. 1532 01:10:58,295 --> 01:11:01,924 If I was getting a "good edit," you think they would have shown that? 1533 01:11:02,841 --> 01:11:04,802 I don't know what you were looking for. 1534 01:11:05,886 --> 01:11:07,805 But I don't know if that answers your question. 1535 01:11:07,888 --> 01:11:10,766 I thought we were on good terms, but I guess that we're not. 1536 01:11:10,849 --> 01:11:12,351 [Jimmy] I mean, I have an opinion too. 1537 01:11:12,434 --> 01:11:16,313 And every date we had was phenomenal, and everything I would have ever wanted. 1538 01:11:16,397 --> 01:11:18,983 And I felt... 1539 01:11:19,525 --> 01:11:21,735 I'm saying I gave you 45 minutes. 1540 01:11:21,819 --> 01:11:24,154 I still believe it's ten minutes. 1541 01:11:24,238 --> 01:11:26,615 Someone please get the receipts, please. 1542 01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:30,244 -Hello. -[Jimmy] Oh, my God. 1543 01:11:30,327 --> 01:11:31,912 [laughing] 1544 01:11:31,996 --> 01:11:33,664 [Jessica] I spilled my drink on myself. 1545 01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:36,375 I am a mess all the time. 1546 01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:38,168 That's what you have to look forward to. 1547 01:11:40,587 --> 01:11:42,715 {\an8}Can we take a quick break? [chuckles] 1548 01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:45,175 -Please. That would be great. -[Jimmy] Okay. 1549 01:12:00,858 --> 01:12:02,776 [Jimmy sighs] You in here, Jess? 1550 01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:03,777 I'm here. 1551 01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:11,869 {\an8}I'm not giving up. 1552 01:12:11,952 --> 01:12:15,706 I'm not walking away or, like, going to bed angry, 1553 01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:19,752 but it's feeling forced, and that's just not us. 1554 01:12:20,252 --> 01:12:22,713 -Yeah. -So I think we should... 1555 01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:25,424 leave it alone for right now. 1556 01:12:26,508 --> 01:12:27,634 I'm good with that. 1557 01:12:29,011 --> 01:12:32,639 I want you to find the clarity and peace that you need 1558 01:12:32,723 --> 01:12:35,726 to figure out who you wanna spend the rest of your life with. 1559 01:12:35,809 --> 01:12:37,561 I feel like continuing to talk about it 1560 01:12:37,644 --> 01:12:40,105 is making me feel like I'm having to talk you into it. 1561 01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:41,523 And I don't want that. 1562 01:12:42,399 --> 01:12:45,361 Thank you for wrapping that up, because I can't make up... 1563 01:12:45,444 --> 01:12:50,157 [laughing] I can't form a sentence to figure out how to tell you how I feel. 1564 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,494 I don't have anything else to say. I really don't. 1565 01:12:59,124 --> 01:13:01,502 And maybe I will talk to you later. 1566 01:13:09,718 --> 01:13:12,846 Speaking of the media and social media, 1567 01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,933 something that has taken over this show. 1568 01:13:16,767 --> 01:13:18,143 -[laughs] -[Vanessa] Hey, Chelsea. 1569 01:13:18,227 --> 01:13:19,603 [Nick laughs] 1570 01:13:20,270 --> 01:13:22,147 [Vanessa] The debate about 1571 01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:24,942 the comparison 1572 01:13:25,526 --> 01:13:26,735 to Megan Fox. 1573 01:13:26,819 --> 01:13:29,571 -[Chelsea 2] Bring her? That's all I ask. -[all laughing] 1574 01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,698 -[Vanessa] She's in the back. -[Nick] Please welcome... 1575 01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:32,908 [Vanessa] Trevor's girl. 1576 01:13:32,991 --> 01:13:36,703 Um, what are your thoughts 1577 01:13:36,787 --> 01:13:37,830 on how this is playing out? 1578 01:13:37,913 --> 01:13:41,125 That was... regrets, big time. 1579 01:13:41,208 --> 01:13:44,628 It was just a silly, little comment that just slid in there, 1580 01:13:44,711 --> 01:13:47,089 and my whole world has flipped upside down. 1581 01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:51,760 I'm really, really stinkin' proud of myself for how I've been handling it. 1582 01:13:51,844 --> 01:13:55,389 I didn't think I could, 'cause the world is harsh. 1583 01:13:55,472 --> 01:13:58,475 And you could say anything. You could say, "I like the color pink," 1584 01:13:58,559 --> 01:14:00,936 and people are gonna demolish you. 1585 01:14:01,019 --> 01:14:03,021 Like, it doesn't matter what you say. 1586 01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:05,482 I am so proud of myself, 1587 01:14:05,566 --> 01:14:09,570 and I have just been taking it with grace and just making humor of it, 1588 01:14:09,653 --> 01:14:11,655 and it is what it is. 1589 01:14:12,364 --> 01:14:13,574 Thanks, guys. 1590 01:14:14,324 --> 01:14:16,827 Thank you. Thank you. 1591 01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:19,788 One couple who knows what it feels like to be in a love triangle 1592 01:14:19,872 --> 01:14:22,499 but to come out on the other end with a very happy ending 1593 01:14:22,583 --> 01:14:25,252 is Zack and Bliss from season four. 1594 01:14:25,335 --> 01:14:26,795 You may have heard they're expecting, 1595 01:14:26,879 --> 01:14:29,756 and we're excited to share with you a clip from their recent baby shower. 1596 01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:30,716 Take a look. 1597 01:14:31,383 --> 01:14:32,384 That's gonna be nice. 1598 01:14:32,468 --> 01:14:36,180 -[pop music playing] -[all laughing] 1599 01:14:36,263 --> 01:14:40,017 {\an8}Tiff and Chels reporting live from Bliss's baby shower! 1600 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,020 {\an8}-[Chelsea 1] It's good! We're so excited! -[Tiffany] Here we are. 1601 01:14:44,021 --> 01:14:47,983 {\an8}I just can't believe our best friends are having a baby. 1602 01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:51,612 {\an8}So for those of you that might not know, we're having a... 1603 01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:53,238 {\an8}-Baby girl. -A baby girl! 1604 01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:54,490 We got a girl on the way. 1605 01:14:54,573 --> 01:14:57,409 [Brett] I'll just say we're gonna have some amazing parents. 1606 01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:58,869 I have no doubt. 1607 01:14:58,952 --> 01:15:00,954 {\an8}Zack and Bliss, they are madly in love, 1608 01:15:01,038 --> 01:15:03,373 the sweetest couple on the planet. 1609 01:15:03,457 --> 01:15:04,374 {\an8}[woman 23] Beautiful! 1610 01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:08,128 {\an8}Cheers to this beautiful couple, and Baby G. 1611 01:15:08,212 --> 01:15:10,839 {\an8}We're all here for you. We love you so much. Thank you. 1612 01:15:10,923 --> 01:15:12,925 {\an8}[cheering] 1613 01:15:14,468 --> 01:15:17,971 As my family knows, I was really hoping for a girl. 1614 01:15:18,055 --> 01:15:22,142 And this is, I mean, one of the greatest blessings ever. 1615 01:15:22,226 --> 01:15:23,685 Uh, next to Bliss. 1616 01:15:23,769 --> 01:15:25,604 -[woman 24] Aww. -[woman 25 laughs] Aww. 1617 01:15:25,687 --> 01:15:29,066 He kind of covered it all. I love you guys all very much. I do. 1618 01:15:30,025 --> 01:15:31,902 And enjoy some wine for me, please. 1619 01:15:31,985 --> 01:15:34,530 [all laughing] 1620 01:15:35,447 --> 01:15:37,866 [cheering] 1621 01:15:38,742 --> 01:15:42,162 {\an8}-[photographer] One, two, three! -Love is blind! 1622 01:15:43,455 --> 01:15:46,208 -[Nick laughs] -[Vanessa] Awesome! 1623 01:15:47,584 --> 01:15:50,337 We love seeing our Love Is Blind family growing. 1624 01:15:50,420 --> 01:15:52,339 {\an8}Chelsea, Kwame, Brett, Tiffany, 1625 01:15:52,422 --> 01:15:54,591 {\an8}you guys were there with some of the other Pod Squad. 1626 01:15:54,675 --> 01:15:56,134 {\an8}How are Bliss and Zack doing? 1627 01:15:56,218 --> 01:15:57,469 They're doing fantastic. 1628 01:15:57,553 --> 01:16:01,598 Um, B and Z are, like... They're great, great people. 1629 01:16:01,682 --> 01:16:04,643 And so, like, it's really amazing 1630 01:16:04,726 --> 01:16:07,187 to see everything that they've desired and wanted 1631 01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:10,148 and everything that this journey has kind of yielded coming to fruition. 1632 01:16:10,232 --> 01:16:12,568 Because we know that that's kind of what they wanted. 1633 01:16:12,651 --> 01:16:15,070 They lived about five minutes from us in center city, 1634 01:16:15,153 --> 01:16:18,448 and then they moved to suburbia, and they knew where their life was headed. 1635 01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:22,035 That's what they wanted and envisioned. and it's so cool to see it coming to life. 1636 01:16:22,119 --> 01:16:24,705 We see them a lot, call her every day. 1637 01:16:24,788 --> 01:16:26,957 We're just really excited. A couple months away. 1638 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,917 Bliss and Gigi are not the only ones 1639 01:16:29,001 --> 01:16:31,712 from the Love Is Blind family who are expecting. 1640 01:16:32,713 --> 01:16:35,591 -Alexa, how are you? How you feeling? -[Vanessa] Hi, Alexa. 1641 01:16:35,674 --> 01:16:39,511 Doing very well. I'm just, uh, you know... 1642 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,096 {\an8}It's really fun, really exciting. 1643 01:16:41,179 --> 01:16:45,058 {\an8}It was a journey, for sure. Five months pregnant now. 1644 01:16:45,642 --> 01:16:47,603 Went through some fertility issues. 1645 01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:49,021 And it was a roller coaster, 1646 01:16:49,104 --> 01:16:52,232 and we were, you know, unsure if it was ever gonna happen for us. 1647 01:16:52,316 --> 01:16:55,485 And, uh, two months away when we were gonna be starting IVF, 1648 01:16:55,569 --> 01:16:58,447 it happened naturally and so, you know... 1649 01:16:58,530 --> 01:16:59,406 [laughing] Just... 1650 01:16:59,489 --> 01:17:03,368 Um, yeah, and I can't wait to, you know, have our love 1651 01:17:04,369 --> 01:17:06,204 be physical, like, in a baby. 1652 01:17:06,288 --> 01:17:08,248 I think that's what I'm really excited about 1653 01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:10,292 and see a combination of both of us. 1654 01:17:10,375 --> 01:17:13,629 And now looking for a house so we can put the baby somewhere. 1655 01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:15,839 [laughing] 1656 01:17:15,922 --> 01:17:20,594 Um, and the baby has a name and everything. 1657 01:17:20,677 --> 01:17:24,806 It's really hard not to say the gender right now, but... [laughs] 1658 01:17:25,432 --> 01:17:27,100 -Yeah. -[Brennon] Just wanna say this. 1659 01:17:27,184 --> 01:17:29,936 She's been a rock through this whole thing. 1660 01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,064 It's been an emotional journey 1661 01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:34,024 for both of us, her especially. 1662 01:17:34,107 --> 01:17:34,983 And, um... 1663 01:17:35,567 --> 01:17:39,363 It's, uh, just us wanting to have a family so bad... 1664 01:17:40,572 --> 01:17:43,784 It's wonderful having this kind of come to fruition. 1665 01:17:43,867 --> 01:17:47,454 -We had a lot of fun practicing, you know? -[Nick] There you go. Yeah, baby. 1666 01:17:47,537 --> 01:17:49,039 [laughing] 1667 01:17:49,122 --> 01:17:51,166 So Alexa's always been one to be 1668 01:17:52,167 --> 01:17:55,045 honest and direct, and we love that about you, girl. 1669 01:17:55,128 --> 01:17:59,383 So I wanna ask you if you have any questions for our season six friends. 1670 01:17:59,466 --> 01:18:02,844 {\an8}I have a lot. I learned my lesson at my own reunion. 1671 01:18:02,928 --> 01:18:05,806 {\an8}[laughing] So, I'm not gonna say everything I'm thinking. 1672 01:18:05,889 --> 01:18:08,725 -[laughing] -Um, but, Brittany and Kenneth, to you. 1673 01:18:08,809 --> 01:18:10,977 {\an8}I don't wanna make you uncomfy. 1674 01:18:11,061 --> 01:18:13,814 -But did either of you just wanna... -Not "uncomfy." 1675 01:18:13,897 --> 01:18:17,109 ...do it and see if that created the crave? 1676 01:18:17,192 --> 01:18:19,611 [laughing] 1677 01:18:20,612 --> 01:18:23,031 -[Alexa] Just once. -[Brittany] Thank you for the question. 1678 01:18:23,115 --> 01:18:25,117 Finally, we get our time. Okay. 1679 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,493 -[laughing] -[Brittany] Honestly. 1680 01:18:26,576 --> 01:18:29,788 Um, so going into this, 1681 01:18:29,871 --> 01:18:31,915 I made a promise to myself. 1682 01:18:31,998 --> 01:18:33,917 I was like, "Look, I'm gonna wait until marriage." 1683 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,919 And yes, a lot have asked me that. 1684 01:18:36,002 --> 01:18:38,171 We were even asked that in the DR. 1685 01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:40,424 Like, "Why don't you just do it and see?" 1686 01:18:40,507 --> 01:18:43,385 My thing is that that is a supplement. 1687 01:18:43,468 --> 01:18:46,012 And it's more. It's an addition to. 1688 01:18:46,596 --> 01:18:50,225 And I should not have to first test that out 1689 01:18:50,308 --> 01:18:51,935 to then make my decision. 1690 01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:56,606 I wanted to be 100% confident, and that was my choice. 1691 01:18:56,690 --> 01:18:59,359 Um, and so I wanted... 1692 01:18:59,443 --> 01:19:02,571 We agreed to make a promise to ourselves and to each other, 1693 01:19:02,654 --> 01:19:04,281 and that's what we were gonna go with. 1694 01:19:04,364 --> 01:19:08,452 And it didn't really need to be tested out to figure out where we were at. 1695 01:19:10,954 --> 01:19:13,248 -[Kenneth] Can I add something? -I gotta ask you this. 1696 01:19:13,832 --> 01:19:16,710 -When you guys got back from the DR. -Uh-huh. 1697 01:19:16,793 --> 01:19:20,630 You could almost hear people screaming for you to get off of your phone! 1698 01:19:21,673 --> 01:19:22,674 When you watched it back, 1699 01:19:22,758 --> 01:19:26,052 did you realize that you were so into your device 1700 01:19:26,136 --> 01:19:28,847 and not so much into your fiancée in that moment? 1701 01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:31,933 So I don't wanna say that to my fiancée, 'cause I was. 1702 01:19:32,017 --> 01:19:34,603 So I wanna say that, but what I will say is, 1703 01:19:34,686 --> 01:19:36,688 um, we all know I'm a principal, right? 1704 01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:40,525 I love my kids. I love my families and my parents and my teachers. 1705 01:19:40,609 --> 01:19:42,569 I spent about three weeks away from them. 1706 01:19:42,652 --> 01:19:44,654 I'm a very on-the-grounds principal. 1707 01:19:44,738 --> 01:19:47,365 So what that means is I'm, like, in classrooms, in the hallways. 1708 01:19:47,449 --> 01:19:48,408 All those things. 1709 01:19:48,492 --> 01:19:51,286 I make commitments to my families and parents and kids every day. 1710 01:19:51,369 --> 01:19:54,873 Um, and so, having the opportunity to reconnect with them 1711 01:19:54,956 --> 01:19:56,541 was not just for me, but also for them. 1712 01:19:56,625 --> 01:19:59,753 They're not used to having that big lapse of absenteeism with me 1713 01:19:59,836 --> 01:20:01,379 in their communication. 1714 01:20:01,463 --> 01:20:03,548 I love my job. It's the most precious thing to me. 1715 01:20:03,632 --> 01:20:05,342 Um, but so is my love, right? 1716 01:20:05,425 --> 01:20:09,137 So I'm trying to find the middle ground of how you still keep your commitment 1717 01:20:09,221 --> 01:20:11,181 and still, like, honor who you're with too. 1718 01:20:11,264 --> 01:20:14,100 Even though I was so on my phone, I own it. I was on my phone a lot! 1719 01:20:14,184 --> 01:20:16,895 So people think that he was either playing Candy Crush 1720 01:20:16,978 --> 01:20:18,438 or looking at pictures of dolphins. 1721 01:20:18,522 --> 01:20:21,024 -"Dolphins." [laughing] -Yeah, that's what he was looking at. 1722 01:20:21,107 --> 01:20:23,652 It was a picture of trying to find me in a dolphin costume, okay? 1723 01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:25,362 [laughing] 1724 01:20:25,946 --> 01:20:28,198 -[Kenneth] That has been the warrant. -[laughing] 1725 01:20:28,281 --> 01:20:29,866 [Vanessa] I loved you posted a picture 1726 01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:33,411 with your face in a dolphin costume, and she wrote, "I'm just dead." 1727 01:20:34,037 --> 01:20:35,413 -[Brittany] I did. -[Nick] Kenneth. 1728 01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:37,374 Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, 1729 01:20:37,457 --> 01:20:40,752 but it didn't seem like you were that fazed by the breakup. 1730 01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:45,465 And I think some viewers, you know, even calling it gaslighting. 1731 01:20:45,549 --> 01:20:49,511 How do you respond to that and to your reaction in that moment? 1732 01:20:49,594 --> 01:20:52,681 [Kenneth] Yeah. One, I can totally understand how that looks. 1733 01:20:52,764 --> 01:20:55,892 Right? I can own, right, how the perception is. 1734 01:20:56,476 --> 01:20:59,354 One thing I think is important to bring to this space is 1735 01:20:59,437 --> 01:21:00,689 everyone processes differently. 1736 01:21:00,772 --> 01:21:03,859 I know, most times, you see, like, the emotionalism come in. 1737 01:21:03,942 --> 01:21:05,694 That was there, doesn't happen at that moment. 1738 01:21:05,777 --> 01:21:08,238 And so when people say, like, "Oh, he just didn't care." 1739 01:21:08,321 --> 01:21:10,407 Like, no, that actually was not the case. 1740 01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:12,659 I called Clay, like, in shambles. 1741 01:21:12,742 --> 01:21:15,620 Like, "Bro, this is what happened to me." You know what I'm saying? 1742 01:21:15,704 --> 01:21:20,333 So I think that I can understand how it looks, but everyone's different. 1743 01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:22,669 Sure. Well, let's move on from the past to the present. 1744 01:21:22,752 --> 01:21:25,130 Where do things stand between the two of you now? 1745 01:21:25,213 --> 01:21:27,340 -We speak nearly every day. -Yeah. 1746 01:21:27,424 --> 01:21:30,385 [Brittany] I get FaceTime calls at work. I call him at work. 1747 01:21:30,468 --> 01:21:34,306 I've met people at his school that he talks to. 1748 01:21:34,389 --> 01:21:39,394 And I think that although we are no longer in a relationship together, 1749 01:21:39,477 --> 01:21:42,939 the bond that we have is gonna last for an eternity. 1750 01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:45,400 Um, and I'm happy with that. 1751 01:21:46,401 --> 01:21:49,195 You know he's always got his phone, so you can always reach him. 1752 01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:50,906 [laughing] 1753 01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:55,493 I can say our joke was, he was gonna run down the aisle to me for sure... 1754 01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:57,370 -On my phone! -[laughing] 1755 01:21:57,454 --> 01:21:58,580 [Kenneth] On the phone. 1756 01:21:59,247 --> 01:22:02,542 Like, "Take a picture of me, baby, you'll have it forever." 1757 01:22:02,626 --> 01:22:05,253 You guys are friends at this point, which I think is fantastic. 1758 01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:08,089 -[Brittany] Very much so. -If friendship comes out of this, amazing. 1759 01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:09,883 Do you give each other dating advice? 1760 01:22:09,966 --> 01:22:12,802 Have you gotten to the place where you're comfortable doing that? 1761 01:22:12,886 --> 01:22:15,513 -Hey, Nick! -You wanna talk about our conversation? 1762 01:22:15,597 --> 01:22:19,351 Yeah, we actually had a conversation the other day just about 1763 01:22:19,434 --> 01:22:22,771 when we get to the phase of, like, really dating other people, 1764 01:22:22,854 --> 01:22:23,897 how will that affect us? 1765 01:22:23,980 --> 01:22:25,899 We're extremely close. We talk every day. 1766 01:22:25,982 --> 01:22:28,443 It's a very close-knit relationship. 1767 01:22:28,526 --> 01:22:30,195 We're also very respectful people. 1768 01:22:30,278 --> 01:22:31,529 We don't wanna offend the person 1769 01:22:31,613 --> 01:22:34,199 that we talk to because of our rapport with each other. 1770 01:22:34,282 --> 01:22:35,492 Because we are very close, 1771 01:22:35,575 --> 01:22:38,328 but we gotta also respect our people when do we find them. 1772 01:22:38,411 --> 01:22:39,913 Yeah, we're at a good spot. 1773 01:22:39,996 --> 01:22:42,499 It's a beautiful thing you guys are at that place. It really is. 1774 01:22:42,582 --> 01:22:44,292 [Vanessa] We were talking to previous cast, 1775 01:22:44,376 --> 01:22:47,420 and Nick and I were speaking, as well, how this show has become, 1776 01:22:47,504 --> 01:22:50,590 not just for everyone watching, but also for the people living it, 1777 01:22:50,674 --> 01:22:52,175 a little bit of therapy for all of us. 1778 01:22:52,258 --> 01:22:55,971 -Absolutely. -Watching your guys' conversations. 1779 01:22:56,054 --> 01:22:59,766 It gave us a space to actually start talking 1780 01:22:59,849 --> 01:23:03,061 more about things that we had been putting on the back burner for a while. 1781 01:23:03,144 --> 01:23:04,980 And the way you spoke to each other. 1782 01:23:05,063 --> 01:23:07,440 Because, you know, we've been together for 18 years, 1783 01:23:07,524 --> 01:23:10,610 life happens, kids, job, and you start getting snippy. 1784 01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:14,155 And this is the person that you're supposed to be the most respectful to, 1785 01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:15,532 and I lo... Sorry. 1786 01:23:15,615 --> 01:23:18,660 -Nothing to see here. -I know I'm snippy. I said it. 1787 01:23:18,743 --> 01:23:22,288 -[laughing] -I'm spicy! You know what I'm saying? 1788 01:23:22,998 --> 01:23:27,419 Um, and to watch you guys speak to each other with so much love 1789 01:23:27,502 --> 01:23:29,004 just reminds us what it's about. 1790 01:23:29,087 --> 01:23:31,214 I was talking to Alexa and Brennon, and they were like, 1791 01:23:31,297 --> 01:23:33,383 "Just seeing this, seeing the communication, 1792 01:23:33,466 --> 01:23:35,760 it's why we're all here, to find that love." 1793 01:23:35,844 --> 01:23:38,471 And regardless, to find that relationship and that communication. 1794 01:23:38,555 --> 01:23:41,641 -So, thank you for giving us all of that. -Yeah. Of course. Of course. 1795 01:23:41,725 --> 01:23:42,934 -Thank you. -Yeah. 1796 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,985 One that has kept us on our ballet toes from the very beginning 1797 01:23:52,068 --> 01:23:54,404 is Colleen and Matt. 1798 01:23:54,487 --> 01:23:56,489 -Hi, guys, right over here. -Hi! 1799 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,076 Obviously, she's been doing ballet her entire life, 1800 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,996 {\an8}but she just did Princess Aurora in Sleeping Beauty. 1801 01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:05,957 {\an8}It was the most beautiful thing I've seen in my life. It was incredible. 1802 01:24:06,041 --> 01:24:07,584 Yay! Congratulations! 1803 01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:09,461 [Matt] Yes, please, please. 1804 01:24:09,544 --> 01:24:10,962 [Vanessa] Thank you. Love it. 1805 01:24:11,504 --> 01:24:15,341 I just have to first say that after seeing and experiencing everything, 1806 01:24:15,425 --> 01:24:19,512 us moving in together right after is like a nothing burger. [laughing] 1807 01:24:19,596 --> 01:24:21,306 Like, just an afterthought. 1808 01:24:21,389 --> 01:24:24,392 'Cause everyone was harping on the fact you were living together. 1809 01:24:24,476 --> 01:24:26,853 [Colleen] Yeah. It's like, "Okay, um..." 1810 01:24:26,936 --> 01:24:29,689 But with that said, we have, like, moved in together. 1811 01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:30,607 [Matt] We have. 1812 01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:32,984 [Colleen] Moved into a beautiful townhome. It's amazing. 1813 01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:34,694 Anyone who's on this couch right now 1814 01:24:34,778 --> 01:24:37,113 who feels like they're going through a hard time, 1815 01:24:37,197 --> 01:24:40,325 like, I promise you, you will make it out on the other side. 1816 01:24:40,408 --> 01:24:42,285 -Like, you will be okay -For sure. For sure. 1817 01:24:42,368 --> 01:24:46,289 And we're, like, proof, basically, that you guys will be okay. 1818 01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:47,957 -[Nick] That's great insight. -It's good. 1819 01:24:48,041 --> 01:24:50,335 -[Nick] Great to see you doing so good. -[Matt] Thank you. 1820 01:24:50,418 --> 01:24:52,796 Thank you guys for being here. Yeah, I love to see it. 1821 01:24:52,879 --> 01:24:54,714 This season of Love Is Blind also had a Matt... 1822 01:24:54,798 --> 01:24:56,633 Excuse me, a Matthew. 1823 01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:01,054 He was invited to attend this reunion, but he politely declined. 1824 01:25:01,137 --> 01:25:04,265 I'm sure you recall Matthew was accused of telling two women, 1825 01:25:04,349 --> 01:25:08,019 AD and Amber, the same thing in the pods, 1826 01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:10,146 but we never actually saw the receipts. 1827 01:25:10,230 --> 01:25:12,357 -So, should we watch now and see? -[AD laughs] 1828 01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,192 -[Johnny] Oh, yeah! -[Nick] Let's do it. 1829 01:25:14,275 --> 01:25:17,278 -[Vanessa] I love you saying "receipts." -"Receipts." I know. 1830 01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:21,950 [Matthew] I thought I knew yesterday 1831 01:25:22,742 --> 01:25:24,035 who I was here for. 1832 01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:25,120 {\an8}Uh-huh. 1833 01:25:25,745 --> 01:25:26,955 {\an8}[Matthew] And... 1834 01:25:27,038 --> 01:25:29,749 {\an8}-After today with you... -[Amber] Yeah? 1835 01:25:30,458 --> 01:25:31,376 {\an8}Oh! [laughing] 1836 01:25:31,459 --> 01:25:33,002 {\an8}[Matthew] I am not sure. 1837 01:25:34,754 --> 01:25:37,423 {\an8}-Interesting. -Okay, Matthew. [laughs] 1838 01:25:37,507 --> 01:25:41,761 {\an8}Today just felt very right. It feels just... 1839 01:25:43,096 --> 01:25:44,764 -It feels really good. -Yeah. 1840 01:25:45,849 --> 01:25:46,891 No, it does. 1841 01:25:47,684 --> 01:25:49,310 Well, thank you for saying that. 1842 01:25:49,811 --> 01:25:52,105 [Matthew] I'm just trying to be as honest as I can. 1843 01:25:52,188 --> 01:25:54,607 {\an8}-[Amber] No, I like that. I like honesty. -[AD laughs] 1844 01:25:54,691 --> 01:25:57,694 {\an8}I don't wanna tell something to somebody else, then tell you something, 1845 01:25:57,777 --> 01:25:59,696 {\an8}-[laughing] -[Matthew] I'm just not gonna do that. 1846 01:25:59,779 --> 01:26:02,407 {\an8}Yeah, I don't think you should. 1847 01:26:02,490 --> 01:26:05,493 {\an8}No. I guess when I think about you, I can really see it. 1848 01:26:05,577 --> 01:26:07,078 {\an8}-Really? -[Matthew] Yeah. 1849 01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:08,955 {\an8}Hmm. I'm smiling. 1850 01:26:09,581 --> 01:26:12,250 [Matthew] To me, yesterday, with you, 1851 01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:13,835 like, something happened. 1852 01:26:13,918 --> 01:26:15,211 {\an8}Something like what? 1853 01:26:15,295 --> 01:26:16,129 {\an8}Oh, my God! 1854 01:26:16,212 --> 01:26:17,213 {\an8}Like, a deep connection. 1855 01:26:17,297 --> 01:26:19,048 {\an8}There's a large part of me that thinks 1856 01:26:19,132 --> 01:26:21,968 {\an8}-that there's really only two outcomes. -Wow... 1857 01:26:22,051 --> 01:26:23,219 {\an8}-[AD] Yeah? -[sighs] 1858 01:26:23,303 --> 01:26:25,930 {\an8}-And that's either with you or not. -Oh! [laughing] 1859 01:26:26,598 --> 01:26:28,892 {\an8}[Matthew] I'm trying to be as honest as I can. 1860 01:26:29,475 --> 01:26:31,186 {\an8}I asked you about your dad, 1861 01:26:31,269 --> 01:26:34,439 {\an8}'cause I really don't know if I could propose without asking permission. 1862 01:26:34,522 --> 01:26:37,609 {\an8}Aww. That is really, really thoughtful. 1863 01:26:37,692 --> 01:26:42,572 I just was hoping that I would find a man that's ready, like, right now. 1864 01:26:42,655 --> 01:26:45,950 -If you wanna leave, I'll leave with you. -For real? 1865 01:26:46,034 --> 01:26:48,244 {\an8}[Matthew] Yeah, I would. You just say, "Matthew..." 1866 01:26:48,328 --> 01:26:49,954 {\an8}[AD laughing] 1867 01:26:50,038 --> 01:26:51,664 {\an8}"...let's get the hell out of here." 1868 01:26:51,748 --> 01:26:53,666 {\an8}[Amber] One thing you said today about 1869 01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:58,046 {\an8}not feeling right, like, not asking my dad like that. 1870 01:26:58,129 --> 01:27:00,381 {\an8}It just speaks volumes, I think to, 1871 01:27:01,049 --> 01:27:02,342 {\an8}like, who you are. 1872 01:27:03,635 --> 01:27:05,762 {\an8}[Matthew] I just really appreciate that you said that... 1873 01:27:05,845 --> 01:27:07,847 {\an8}This is insane. [laughs] 1874 01:27:07,931 --> 01:27:09,807 {\an8}...you think that's the right way to do it. 1875 01:27:09,891 --> 01:27:11,184 {\an8}'Cause if it got to it... 1876 01:27:11,976 --> 01:27:14,062 {\an8}-Yeah. -[Matthew] And we were at the end... 1877 01:27:14,145 --> 01:27:15,313 {\an8}Yeah. 1878 01:27:15,396 --> 01:27:18,399 {\an8}[Matthew] ...I would tell 'em, "I'm not doing it unless I talk to her dad." 1879 01:27:18,483 --> 01:27:20,026 {\an8}-So... -[Amber] Mm. 1880 01:27:20,109 --> 01:27:21,819 {\an8}You want me on the show. 1881 01:27:21,903 --> 01:27:23,780 {\an8}You want us to do these things, fine. 1882 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,324 {\an8}-[Amber] Mm. -But that's... I don't care. 1883 01:27:27,325 --> 01:27:28,326 {\an8}[Amber] I appreciate that. 1884 01:27:28,409 --> 01:27:31,955 {\an8}And, honestly, I would leave too. 1885 01:27:32,538 --> 01:27:33,790 {\an8}[Matthew] Okay. 1886 01:27:33,873 --> 01:27:34,958 [Amber] Yeah. 1887 01:27:35,041 --> 01:27:37,669 [Vanessa] You think he was saying the same thing to both of you? 1888 01:27:38,253 --> 01:27:40,046 -Well, yeah. -[all laughing] 1889 01:27:40,129 --> 01:27:41,714 Yeah, absolutely. 1890 01:27:41,798 --> 01:27:44,842 I felt all of your, and heard, your emotions during watching that. 1891 01:27:44,926 --> 01:27:46,594 -[AD] Yeah. -What are your thoughts on that? 1892 01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:49,722 It wasn't that he was saying the same thing to both of us, 1893 01:27:49,806 --> 01:27:51,683 it was the fact that I had shared something 1894 01:27:51,766 --> 01:27:54,060 so intimate about my father passing. 1895 01:27:54,143 --> 01:27:56,729 And, you know, there's moments that I just won't have. 1896 01:27:56,813 --> 01:27:59,274 Like, I won't have my future husband 1897 01:27:59,357 --> 01:28:01,025 get to ask for my hand in marriage. 1898 01:28:01,109 --> 01:28:05,238 And I won't have my father walk me, um, down the aisle. 1899 01:28:05,321 --> 01:28:08,658 So when she comes in and she has the same story 1900 01:28:08,741 --> 01:28:11,494 as far as, like, the dad thing, that's what really rocked me, 1901 01:28:11,577 --> 01:28:14,497 'cause I was like, "Well, my story is obsolete then." 1902 01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:17,250 Did you ever reconnect with Matthew 1903 01:28:17,333 --> 01:28:19,544 in the real world after the show? 1904 01:28:21,004 --> 01:28:23,006 -I did. [laughs] -[man whispers] Oh, shit. 1905 01:28:23,089 --> 01:28:24,173 [woman 26] Oh, no. 1906 01:28:24,257 --> 01:28:26,884 -[Nick] Okay. Okay. -[Clay] Mm. 1907 01:28:26,968 --> 01:28:28,011 [Vanessa] Okay, so... 1908 01:28:28,094 --> 01:28:31,764 [Nick] What can you tell us about the little pistachio of Matthew? 1909 01:28:31,848 --> 01:28:35,018 -Did you crack him that night? -Um... [sighs] 1910 01:28:36,185 --> 01:28:37,770 [laughing] 1911 01:28:37,854 --> 01:28:40,148 He's, like, drilling a hole in the side of my head. 1912 01:28:40,231 --> 01:28:42,775 -[Vanessa] Does Clay not know? -[Nick] Is this news to you, Clay? 1913 01:28:42,859 --> 01:28:44,944 -[clears throat] No, it's not. -[Vanessa] Okay. 1914 01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:47,613 -She told me that she met with Matthew. -Okay. 1915 01:28:47,697 --> 01:28:50,742 Matthew and I, we went on a few dates. 1916 01:28:51,784 --> 01:28:55,705 -[Vanessa] How many? -Um, like, two. Two-ish. 1917 01:28:55,788 --> 01:28:58,458 Well, the first one, he wanted to apologize to me. 1918 01:28:58,541 --> 01:28:59,834 He was heartbroken. 1919 01:28:59,917 --> 01:29:03,254 He was very, very upset about the way everything played out 1920 01:29:03,338 --> 01:29:05,673 and the way he felt like he kind of played both of our faces. 1921 01:29:05,757 --> 01:29:09,260 So the first one, he really wanted to take the time and apologize. 1922 01:29:09,344 --> 01:29:11,804 And I was, like, "You know, Matthew's kind of cute." 1923 01:29:11,888 --> 01:29:14,015 Like, low-key, he's cute, y'all, like... 1924 01:29:14,599 --> 01:29:17,185 -Respectfully. -[laughing] 1925 01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:22,023 Um, anyway, so then we did go on a second date, um... 1926 01:29:23,149 --> 01:29:26,736 And he ended up cooking me dinner. 1927 01:29:27,612 --> 01:29:29,238 [Nick] How is his cooking? A good cook? 1928 01:29:29,322 --> 01:29:31,574 -It was rice and chicken. -[Nick] Oh. 1929 01:29:31,657 --> 01:29:33,868 -[laughing] -Nothing special. 1930 01:29:33,951 --> 01:29:35,787 [Nick, AD] A for effort. 1931 01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:38,373 So... that fizzled out? 1932 01:29:38,456 --> 01:29:41,459 It did. We live two completely different lifestyles. 1933 01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:43,169 He's very disciplined. 1934 01:29:43,252 --> 01:29:45,671 Not like I'm not, but he's, like, extremely to the clock. 1935 01:29:45,755 --> 01:29:47,840 Like, every minute is planned out. 1936 01:29:47,924 --> 01:29:51,010 Whereas I'm kind of, like, you know, with the wind a little bit. 1937 01:29:51,094 --> 01:29:53,805 Um, and he just wants different things, and so do I. 1938 01:29:53,888 --> 01:29:55,681 And we left it right there. 1939 01:29:56,682 --> 01:29:59,185 Clay, you wanna go run some laps and get this out of your system? 1940 01:29:59,268 --> 01:30:00,269 [laughing] 1941 01:30:01,020 --> 01:30:02,855 Hey, at the end of the day, it's an experiment. 1942 01:30:02,939 --> 01:30:05,858 Um, you know, and Matt did it the way he did it. 1943 01:30:05,942 --> 01:30:08,861 I'm not here to kick Matt's back. He's not here in front of my face. 1944 01:30:08,945 --> 01:30:11,823 He obviously met up with AD. Seems like it was respectful. 1945 01:30:11,906 --> 01:30:15,451 So at the end of the day, respect to Matt. I have nothing disrespectful to say. 1946 01:30:15,952 --> 01:30:17,620 [Vanessa] I love it. Thank you, guys. 1947 01:30:17,703 --> 01:30:19,664 Well, we always love a good love story. 1948 01:30:20,289 --> 01:30:22,917 And one of our couples who is returning 1949 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,044 is Chelsea and Kwame. 1950 01:30:25,128 --> 01:30:27,463 {\an8}-Hi, guys. -Hi. 1951 01:30:28,589 --> 01:30:29,632 Whoop-whoop! 1952 01:30:31,467 --> 01:30:33,469 You all had a very happy ending. 1953 01:30:33,553 --> 01:30:35,763 -Oh, yeah. -You called it a fairy tale. 1954 01:30:36,514 --> 01:30:37,849 How are y'all doing? 1955 01:30:37,932 --> 01:30:39,559 -We are doing great. -[laughs] 1956 01:30:39,642 --> 01:30:42,478 We are so proud and happy, almost two years of marriage, 1957 01:30:42,562 --> 01:30:45,857 which is crazy, but it feels like ten. [laughing] 1958 01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:48,693 -[woman 27] Whoo-wee! -[woman 28] Yay! 1959 01:30:48,776 --> 01:30:51,154 Back in the day, I remember Kwame talking about the sacrifices 1960 01:30:51,237 --> 01:30:52,989 he was having to make for your marriage 1961 01:30:53,072 --> 01:30:56,409 and how much he wanted a somewhat nomadic lifestyle. 1962 01:30:56,492 --> 01:30:58,703 And, Chelsea, I hear you have a big job shift 1963 01:30:58,786 --> 01:31:01,372 that's allowed maybe more of that to happen. 1964 01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:02,957 You care to share anything about that? 1965 01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,751 Absolutely. I have an amazing privilege and honor 1966 01:31:05,835 --> 01:31:08,045 to help cast for Love Is Blind. 1967 01:31:08,129 --> 01:31:10,131 -[cheering] -[Chelsea 1] Thank you. 1968 01:31:10,214 --> 01:31:11,591 [man 2] Whoo! 1969 01:31:11,674 --> 01:31:16,345 And it has been incredibly fulfilling for me and so special to be a part of it. 1970 01:31:16,429 --> 01:31:20,183 And I get to talk to brave, bold, courageous singles 1971 01:31:20,266 --> 01:31:21,726 all over the United States 1972 01:31:21,809 --> 01:31:23,978 that may make the leap that we all did. 1973 01:31:24,061 --> 01:31:27,106 And it has been important and meaningful work for me, 1974 01:31:27,190 --> 01:31:31,235 and it has opened up a lifestyle that has allowed us to travel 1975 01:31:31,319 --> 01:31:35,198 and have more of kind of that free spirit in our day to day, 1976 01:31:35,281 --> 01:31:37,950 and it's been truly a blessing for us. 1977 01:31:39,702 --> 01:31:41,287 [Nick] So you get to travel more. 1978 01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:43,706 Where's the most exciting place you've traveled recently? 1979 01:31:43,789 --> 01:31:44,832 We've done a lot. 1980 01:31:44,916 --> 01:31:47,835 I mean, our honeymoon was to Italy... 1981 01:31:48,294 --> 01:31:51,005 -Um, Greece. -Greece, Türkiye. 1982 01:31:51,088 --> 01:31:53,633 Türkiye! Uh, incredible trip overall. 1983 01:31:53,716 --> 01:31:58,221 But I would say, despite those being kind of the amazing, 1984 01:31:58,304 --> 01:31:59,722 scenic, special trips, 1985 01:31:59,805 --> 01:32:02,725 I think the ones that mean the most are the ones we get to take, 1986 01:32:02,808 --> 01:32:04,519 uh, back East Coast. 1987 01:32:04,602 --> 01:32:06,938 Go to DC and go see my family. We spent a lot of time. 1988 01:32:07,021 --> 01:32:10,441 Um, Chelsea's bonded really closely with my nieces and my nephew. 1989 01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:12,485 We have Halloweens together where we dress up. 1990 01:32:12,568 --> 01:32:14,487 We were all superheroes together. 1991 01:32:14,570 --> 01:32:16,948 [Kwame] So I mean, we've done a lot of really cool things. 1992 01:32:17,031 --> 01:32:19,367 But I think, like, those are the most meaningful trips. 1993 01:32:19,450 --> 01:32:21,118 We're going to Hawaii tomorrow, so... 1994 01:32:21,202 --> 01:32:22,495 -[Vanessa] Wait. -Ooh! 1995 01:32:22,578 --> 01:32:24,580 -Nick, if you're home... -[Nick] Stay at the house! 1996 01:32:24,664 --> 01:32:25,831 -[laughing] -[Vanessa] Yeah! 1997 01:32:25,915 --> 01:32:27,458 -[Nick] We got you. -[Vanessa] I love it. 1998 01:32:27,542 --> 01:32:30,086 Thank you guys so much for sharing. See you in Hawaii. 1999 01:32:30,169 --> 01:32:31,754 -[Chelsea 1] See ya. -Do your shakas. 2000 01:32:31,837 --> 01:32:33,464 [laughing] 2001 01:32:33,548 --> 01:32:35,883 [cheering] 2002 01:32:35,967 --> 01:32:39,971 So right next to you, I'm watching Micah and Izzy kind of... 2003 01:32:40,054 --> 01:32:42,139 Something seems to be going on over there. 2004 01:32:42,223 --> 01:32:45,351 -Um, you guys have a little announcement. -[Micah] A little? 2005 01:32:45,434 --> 01:32:48,980 Should this be the time for them to share that with everybody? 2006 01:32:49,772 --> 01:32:50,815 {\an8}Do you wanna share? 2007 01:32:50,898 --> 01:32:52,441 {\an8}Izzy, do you wanna tell 'em? 2008 01:32:52,525 --> 01:32:54,360 [Izzy] I think you should tell them. 2009 01:32:55,152 --> 01:32:59,198 {\an8}So Izzy and I are actually gonna be on the next season of Perfect Match. 2010 01:32:59,282 --> 01:33:01,659 -[laughing] -[cheering] 2011 01:33:03,995 --> 01:33:06,038 -[man 3] Hey! Hey! -[Micah] Very excited for it. 2012 01:33:06,539 --> 01:33:08,666 That's right. Micah and Izzy will actually be joining me 2013 01:33:08,749 --> 01:33:12,128 on the next season of Perfect Match, coming this summer along with... 2014 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,590 {\an8}-Jessica, who's joining us. -[all laughing] 2015 01:33:15,673 --> 01:33:17,675 {\an8}[cheering] 2016 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,094 [Nick] Guys, I had so much fun being a part of season one. 2017 01:33:20,177 --> 01:33:23,180 It's really exciting to have you be a part of season two. 2018 01:33:23,264 --> 01:33:24,640 So thank you very much. 2019 01:33:25,308 --> 01:33:28,144 Something that happens with the Love Is Blind community 2020 01:33:28,227 --> 01:33:30,896 is the friendships, the sisterhood, 2021 01:33:30,980 --> 01:33:33,482 the brotherhood, the relationships that build. 2022 01:33:33,566 --> 01:33:36,944 And Jessica, you and Micah have bonded. 2023 01:33:37,028 --> 01:33:40,615 Yeah, I feel like it's hard for people to imagine someone that looks like that 2024 01:33:40,698 --> 01:33:43,951 could have, like, a heart of true gold, 2025 01:33:44,035 --> 01:33:48,205 but I've never in my life met someone who is so kind, 2026 01:33:48,289 --> 01:33:49,874 such an amazing mother 2027 01:33:49,957 --> 01:33:54,837 and one of the biggest rocks I've ever had in my entire life. 2028 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,964 And she's gonna make someone very happy some day. 2029 01:33:57,048 --> 01:33:58,424 -[laughs] -[Nick] I second that. 2030 01:33:58,507 --> 01:34:00,551 [Micah] Whoever that guy is, he's gonna be very lucky. 2031 01:34:00,635 --> 01:34:03,304 -Aww. -Aww. Thank you, friend. Thank you. 2032 01:34:03,387 --> 01:34:06,515 So, Izzy, what's been going on with you since the last time we saw you? 2033 01:34:06,599 --> 01:34:07,516 Catch us up. 2034 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,895 [sighs] Not much, man, just enjoying life, been traveling. 2035 01:34:10,978 --> 01:34:15,274 And I think the best part of it all is the credit's fixed, you know? 2036 01:34:15,358 --> 01:34:18,194 -[laughing] -[Izzy] We're here, baby! We're here! 2037 01:34:18,277 --> 01:34:19,987 -[man 4] Oh, man. -[woman 29] Yay! 2038 01:34:20,571 --> 01:34:22,281 -[woman 30] Izzy! -[Izzy shouts indistinctly] 2039 01:34:22,365 --> 01:34:23,199 [cheering] 2040 01:34:23,282 --> 01:34:26,035 -[Izzy] Come on! -[laughing] 2041 01:34:26,118 --> 01:34:27,995 [Nick] Dinner's on Izzy tonight! 2042 01:34:28,079 --> 01:34:30,247 I can't complain, man. Life's been great. 2043 01:34:30,331 --> 01:34:33,209 [Vanessa] I love it. Well, we wanna end this on a happy note 2044 01:34:33,292 --> 01:34:37,088 and kind of ask you guys what was your favorite part through this process. 2045 01:34:37,171 --> 01:34:39,590 What do you miss most about being on Love Is Blind? 2046 01:34:39,674 --> 01:34:43,094 I mean, you're the OGs now, the Original Gangstas. 2047 01:34:43,177 --> 01:34:47,264 [splutters] Mish La... Mish La... Miss Lachey... 2048 01:34:47,348 --> 01:34:48,224 [laughing] 2049 01:34:48,307 --> 01:34:51,060 -[Izzy] Take the wine away! -[Brennon] Like you said, it's therapy. 2050 01:34:51,143 --> 01:34:53,104 That "Love Is Wine" is too good! 2051 01:34:53,187 --> 01:34:54,730 [laughing] 2052 01:34:54,814 --> 01:34:56,023 {\an8}[Brennon] Y'all are great! 2053 01:34:56,107 --> 01:34:58,984 {\an8}And watching the show back, it's like therapy, we love it. 2054 01:34:59,068 --> 01:35:00,403 [Vanessa] Did you say you'd miss... 2055 01:35:00,486 --> 01:35:04,782 No, it's like therapy... Watching the show is like therapy. 2056 01:35:04,865 --> 01:35:06,784 We talk, and we pause it, and we talk. 2057 01:35:06,867 --> 01:35:10,621 And kind of just dive into everything. 2058 01:35:10,705 --> 01:35:12,748 And thank y'all for sharing y'all stories. 2059 01:35:12,832 --> 01:35:14,959 I miss production. Production was always so great. 2060 01:35:15,042 --> 01:35:17,294 [Vanessa] What are y'all gonna miss about this whole ride? 2061 01:35:17,378 --> 01:35:19,505 Ms. Lachey, the food. 2062 01:35:19,588 --> 01:35:21,799 -I miss the food. -[Vanessa] The food? 2063 01:35:21,882 --> 01:35:23,092 Well, on that note... 2064 01:35:23,175 --> 01:35:24,385 Clay? 2065 01:35:24,468 --> 01:35:26,971 Did I see a video of you microwaving Gatorade? 2066 01:35:27,054 --> 01:35:29,390 -[laughing] -Yeah, what was that? 2067 01:35:29,473 --> 01:35:30,307 [woman 31] What? 2068 01:35:30,391 --> 01:35:33,060 -Honestly, uh... [clears throat] -[laughing] 2069 01:35:33,644 --> 01:35:37,732 I would just tell America that I would never put liquid 2070 01:35:37,815 --> 01:35:40,025 in a plastic in a microwave. 2071 01:35:42,194 --> 01:35:43,696 These mugs really good, man. 2072 01:35:45,281 --> 01:35:47,450 Noodles and red sauce. 2073 01:35:47,533 --> 01:35:49,535 [beeps] 2074 01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:53,247 [Vanessa] It may have been an optical illusion, a reflection. 2075 01:35:53,330 --> 01:35:55,791 -I think so too. -[Vanessa] You do not microwave Gatorade. 2076 01:35:55,875 --> 01:35:58,043 [Nick] You cannot believe everything you read out there. 2077 01:35:58,127 --> 01:36:01,130 I mean, guys, I, for one, am starving. Do you guys wanna dive in? 2078 01:36:01,213 --> 01:36:02,214 Let's do it! 2079 01:36:02,298 --> 01:36:04,842 Thank you to the Love Is Blind family for returning today. 2080 01:36:04,925 --> 01:36:06,761 Thank you to our season six friends 2081 01:36:06,844 --> 01:36:09,096 for opening your hearts and sharing your journeys with us. 2082 01:36:09,180 --> 01:36:13,267 We cannot wait to see you all back here on our couches at a future reunion. 2083 01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:15,102 Just like our OGs. Thank you to our OGs. 2084 01:36:15,186 --> 01:36:18,147 Yep, and thank you all very much. Here's to love! 2085 01:36:18,230 --> 01:36:22,651 -The search, the journey... -[Vanessa] And happy endings! 2086 01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:25,404 -[Nick] We'll see you next time! -[cheering] 2087 01:36:25,488 --> 01:36:28,282 -[pop music playing] -♪ Live my life... ♪ 2088 01:36:28,365 --> 01:36:30,034 -[shouts] -[Clay] Ready? 2089 01:36:30,576 --> 01:36:32,369 -I'm not above you. -[all] I'm not above you. 2090 01:36:32,453 --> 01:36:34,622 -I'm not below you. -[all] I'm not below you. 2091 01:36:34,705 --> 01:36:37,291 -I'm right here with you. -[all] I'm right here with you. 2092 01:36:37,374 --> 01:36:39,794 [cheering] 2093 01:36:40,377 --> 01:36:43,172 -♪ Live my life ♪ -[vocalizing] 2094 01:36:45,132 --> 01:36:46,467 ♪ Live my life ♪ 2095 01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:49,470 [vocalizing] 2096 01:36:54,683 --> 01:36:56,477 ♪ Live my life ♪