1 00:00:12,379 --> 00:00:14,482 [siren wailing] 2 00:00:16,274 --> 00:00:18,068 [Joe Kenda] There are moments in homicide cases 3 00:00:18,068 --> 00:00:20,172 where you think, "This can't get any worse." 4 00:00:23,275 --> 00:00:24,379 And then it suddenly does. 5 00:00:33,103 --> 00:00:34,931 [Joe] There are some people in the world 6 00:00:34,931 --> 00:00:36,793 who are so evil 7 00:00:36,793 --> 00:00:38,931 that nothing means anything 8 00:00:38,931 --> 00:00:40,965 other than their own pleasure. 9 00:00:41,586 --> 00:00:42,551 Brittany! 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,241 I dropped to my knees. 11 00:00:47,206 --> 00:00:49,068 I told them, "My daughter is in that house." 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,172 Somebody's been murdered and a child is missing. 13 00:00:54,413 --> 00:00:56,689 [woman] I never knew what hate was 14 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:58,000 until that day. 15 00:00:59,103 --> 00:01:00,172 Brittany! 16 00:01:00,172 --> 00:01:01,827 Then it becomes even worse 17 00:01:01,827 --> 00:01:04,000 when they realize another possibility. 18 00:01:05,102 --> 00:01:06,827 Somebody took the child 19 00:01:06,827 --> 00:01:09,344 and killed the babysitter. 20 00:01:10,310 --> 00:01:12,413 There longer it takes to find her, 21 00:01:12,413 --> 00:01:15,931 the less likely is that she'll be found alive. 22 00:01:15,931 --> 00:01:18,172 Every cop at that scene 23 00:01:18,172 --> 00:01:20,275 knows that. 24 00:01:20,275 --> 00:01:24,000 The child is probably in the hands of a murderer. 25 00:01:27,172 --> 00:01:30,241 I spent my career closing murder cases. 26 00:01:31,689 --> 00:01:35,068 But I'm not the only one who answered the call. 27 00:01:36,689 --> 00:01:40,448 It takes a rare breed to solve the unsolvable, 28 00:01:41,275 --> 00:01:43,275 to catch a ruthless killer, 29 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,344 to find justice for the dead. 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,068 That's what it takes to be an American detective. 31 00:02:03,103 --> 00:02:05,000 It's June 22nd. 32 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,275 It's 3:30 in the morning. 33 00:02:08,103 --> 00:02:10,723 We're in a small town in northern Minnesota. 34 00:02:10,723 --> 00:02:12,862 Bemidji, Minnesota. 35 00:02:14,103 --> 00:02:17,275 A call is received at the emergency response center 36 00:02:17,275 --> 00:02:20,000 that a house is on fire. 37 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,689 The fire department responds. 38 00:02:22,689 --> 00:02:24,862 The place is fully involved. 39 00:02:29,517 --> 00:02:32,655 They manage finally to put the fire out. 40 00:02:33,379 --> 00:02:35,758 But the house is destroyed. 41 00:02:41,275 --> 00:02:44,379 They see a mattress in the living room. 42 00:02:47,103 --> 00:02:49,172 They pull back the mattress... 43 00:02:52,103 --> 00:02:54,067 A deceased female victim. 44 00:02:54,067 --> 00:02:56,241 ...and they discover human remains. 45 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:03,896 My name is Rob Fraik. 46 00:03:03,896 --> 00:03:05,310 I'm a former special agent 47 00:03:05,310 --> 00:03:06,586 with the Minnesota Bureau 48 00:03:06,586 --> 00:03:07,586 of Criminal Apprehension. 49 00:03:10,793 --> 00:03:12,551 I remember exactly where I was at. 50 00:03:14,517 --> 00:03:18,103 At an appointment at the VA clinic 51 00:03:18,103 --> 00:03:19,482 in Bemidji. 52 00:03:19,482 --> 00:03:20,689 [phone ringing] 53 00:03:20,689 --> 00:03:22,206 But I received a call. 54 00:03:22,206 --> 00:03:24,379 There's a fire at Hillcrest Manor. 55 00:03:24,379 --> 00:03:25,482 There's a body inside. 56 00:03:25,482 --> 00:03:26,620 I'm on my way. 57 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:28,620 [Joe] Fraik, at the time, 58 00:03:28,620 --> 00:03:31,586 he had never been around many homicide investigations. 59 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:34,965 He didn't understand what he was about to see and do. 60 00:03:46,172 --> 00:03:48,586 [Rob] Hillcrest Manor's a relatively large trailer park 61 00:03:48,586 --> 00:03:50,448 on the north side of city limits. 62 00:03:55,103 --> 00:03:58,067 I worked with Agent Gherardi a fair amount. 63 00:03:58,930 --> 00:03:59,827 What have we got? 64 00:03:59,827 --> 00:04:01,517 I got one inside. Deceased female. 65 00:04:01,517 --> 00:04:02,482 Okay. 66 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,413 [Joe] Special Agent Paul Gherardi 67 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:09,551 had extensive experience in homicide investigations. 68 00:04:10,689 --> 00:04:11,965 This place is gone. 69 00:04:12,482 --> 00:04:13,586 Gutted. 70 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:14,758 Destroyed. 71 00:04:16,172 --> 00:04:17,481 So it's a mess. 72 00:04:17,481 --> 00:04:18,517 An absolute mess. 73 00:04:22,793 --> 00:04:24,413 [Rob] The initial fax that I received were 74 00:04:24,413 --> 00:04:27,000 there was woman that was found inside deceased. 75 00:04:29,275 --> 00:04:31,586 [Joe] Fraik is informed that the deceased person 76 00:04:31,586 --> 00:04:33,000 who lives in this place 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,896 is a 35-year-old woman 78 00:04:34,896 --> 00:04:37,344 whose name is Melissa Norby. 79 00:04:39,068 --> 00:04:40,655 [Rob] Her hands are bound. 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,689 You can infer a lot of things from that. 81 00:04:44,689 --> 00:04:47,689 But it's pretty obvious that somebody had killed her 82 00:04:47,689 --> 00:04:50,482 and they tried to light the place on fire 83 00:04:50,482 --> 00:04:52,965 to cover up any evidence at the scene. 84 00:04:54,793 --> 00:04:58,689 [Paul] Our suspect had put a bed mattress over her. 85 00:05:00,586 --> 00:05:04,551 And mattresses are treated to be fire resistant, 86 00:05:05,896 --> 00:05:09,000 which likely helped preserve her body. 87 00:05:11,896 --> 00:05:15,517 The question becomes, "Did she die because of the fire? 88 00:05:15,517 --> 00:05:18,241 Or did she die by other means?" 89 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:24,206 We assume this is a concealment fire of a homicide 90 00:05:24,206 --> 00:05:25,379 but we don't know yet. 91 00:05:26,172 --> 00:05:28,896 So rather than get lost in what it could be, 92 00:05:28,896 --> 00:05:30,758 let's try to determine what it is. 93 00:05:32,206 --> 00:05:35,000 [Paul] The fire marshal noted an indication 94 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,413 of an accelerant, 95 00:05:37,413 --> 00:05:39,896 because glass is pushed out several yards 96 00:05:39,896 --> 00:05:41,344 from the trailer. 97 00:05:42,482 --> 00:05:44,655 They did find the gas can in the bedroom. 98 00:05:46,793 --> 00:05:47,793 [Rob] There is a possibility 99 00:05:47,793 --> 00:05:50,103 that it was just a completely random act. 100 00:05:50,103 --> 00:05:52,586 But that's highly unlikely. 101 00:05:52,586 --> 00:05:55,206 So, we're gonna be looking for things like a boyfriend, 102 00:05:55,206 --> 00:05:57,000 a neighbor. 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,551 There's gonna be some sort of connection. 104 00:06:00,482 --> 00:06:02,896 Who does Melissa Norby know 105 00:06:02,896 --> 00:06:05,379 who might wanna make her look like this? 106 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,793 [Chad Museus] She lived with her 12-year-old son, 107 00:06:10,793 --> 00:06:12,896 who was not at home at the time of the fire. 108 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,448 [Joe] So Melissa has a child. 109 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:21,310 He's not there because he's staying with a cousin 110 00:06:21,310 --> 00:06:24,000 whose name is Tuesdae Collopy. 111 00:06:25,517 --> 00:06:26,655 Come in. 112 00:06:26,655 --> 00:06:31,862 The BCA came to my home to speak with me and her son. 113 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:36,482 And they had identified Melissa's body. 114 00:06:38,482 --> 00:06:39,758 And it was really hard. 115 00:06:40,724 --> 00:06:42,965 Everything was very overwhelming. 116 00:06:47,206 --> 00:06:50,137 We were basically like sisters. 117 00:06:51,172 --> 00:06:53,724 We were extremely close. 118 00:06:53,724 --> 00:06:56,413 She loved to laugh. She loved to smile. 119 00:06:56,413 --> 00:06:58,379 When Melissa was 10 years old, 120 00:06:58,379 --> 00:07:00,793 uh, she confided in me 121 00:07:00,793 --> 00:07:04,689 that an older man had sexually assaulted her 122 00:07:05,379 --> 00:07:10,275 and it really took a toll on her. 123 00:07:10,275 --> 00:07:13,275 Ever since that day, she was different. 124 00:07:15,068 --> 00:07:18,275 When Melissa was growing into a woman, 125 00:07:18,275 --> 00:07:21,000 there was always an older man around 126 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,862 who would take advantage of her sexually. 127 00:07:25,310 --> 00:07:28,896 Watching her constantly hate herself... 128 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,689 [voice shaking] ...it was the worst. 129 00:07:32,689 --> 00:07:33,827 Because you can't-- 130 00:07:33,827 --> 00:07:35,862 [sighs] ...you can't make it better. 131 00:07:38,724 --> 00:07:42,620 [Joe] So Melissa's had her issues with men over time 132 00:07:42,620 --> 00:07:46,034 and she dates people of less than sterling character. 133 00:07:47,517 --> 00:07:48,896 Do you know of anybody that would have wanted 134 00:07:48,896 --> 00:07:51,896 to see your cousin killed? 135 00:07:51,896 --> 00:07:55,896 [Tuesdae] There were a few characters in Melissa's life 136 00:07:55,896 --> 00:07:57,896 that I thought might know more. 137 00:07:57,896 --> 00:08:00,517 I not really sure. I just know that they're acquaintances. 138 00:08:00,517 --> 00:08:02,482 [Joe] She says that she has a friend 139 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:04,586 who lives in Bemidji 140 00:08:04,586 --> 00:08:06,241 whose name is Larry Erickson. 141 00:08:13,379 --> 00:08:17,275 Larry had apparently been in some sort of romantic relationship 142 00:08:17,275 --> 00:08:18,344 with our decedent. 143 00:08:20,275 --> 00:08:22,689 Larry agreed to come in and speak with us. 144 00:08:26,103 --> 00:08:28,793 Just got a few quick questions for you. 145 00:08:28,793 --> 00:08:31,275 Larry had told investigators 146 00:08:31,275 --> 00:08:34,551 that he was home all evening watching movies. 147 00:08:35,379 --> 00:08:38,482 He denied any contact with Norby. 148 00:08:38,482 --> 00:08:40,724 Denied knowing about the fire. 149 00:08:40,724 --> 00:08:43,241 Were you guys romantically involved? 150 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:45,379 No. 151 00:08:45,379 --> 00:08:48,586 He denied any type of physical relationship 152 00:08:48,586 --> 00:08:50,068 with Melissa Norby, 153 00:08:50,068 --> 00:08:52,896 which was contrary to what we had learned earlier. 154 00:08:54,413 --> 00:08:57,413 [Joe] Erickson says she's been a good friend of his 155 00:08:57,413 --> 00:08:59,206 for some time. 156 00:08:59,206 --> 00:09:02,000 "But we had a confrontation a couple months ago 157 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,827 and it's kind of damaged the relationship." 158 00:09:04,827 --> 00:09:07,172 Did you say "confrontation"? 159 00:09:07,172 --> 00:09:09,241 We like confrontations. 160 00:09:10,931 --> 00:09:13,965 So Fraik is immediately interested. 161 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,379 He's in close proximity. 162 00:09:16,379 --> 00:09:19,103 He was up around the time that the fire started. 163 00:09:19,103 --> 00:09:22,310 And I thought Larry was looking really good 164 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:24,000 as a suspect. 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,758 Larry, can I take a look at your phone? 166 00:09:26,586 --> 00:09:27,517 You don't need to do that. 167 00:09:27,517 --> 00:09:29,689 Why would you need to do that? 168 00:09:29,689 --> 00:09:33,068 And Larry proceeded to start destroying his phone. 169 00:09:33,068 --> 00:09:34,034 Hey! 170 00:09:37,931 --> 00:09:40,172 Well, now you have my undivided attention. 171 00:09:41,172 --> 00:09:42,482 What is in that phone 172 00:09:42,482 --> 00:09:45,172 that speaks to the death of Melissa Norby? 173 00:09:45,172 --> 00:09:46,448 Let's find out. 174 00:10:06,275 --> 00:10:08,551 [Joe] What can be learned from this phone? 175 00:10:09,655 --> 00:10:11,793 Larry becomes so angry 176 00:10:11,793 --> 00:10:15,758 that he becomes physically aggressive towards Fraik. 177 00:10:15,758 --> 00:10:16,758 You can't. 178 00:10:18,034 --> 00:10:20,586 The interview, um, wasn't going well. 179 00:10:20,586 --> 00:10:23,482 He had started to physically destroy his phone. 180 00:10:23,482 --> 00:10:24,551 Hey! 181 00:10:27,896 --> 00:10:32,482 You are clearly involved in some sort of activity 182 00:10:32,482 --> 00:10:34,103 you don't want exposed. 183 00:10:35,137 --> 00:10:36,310 All right, we're done. 184 00:10:38,586 --> 00:10:40,034 [Joe] So we're gonna find out. 185 00:10:40,034 --> 00:10:42,241 This phone is gonna be examined 186 00:10:42,241 --> 00:10:43,724 for content. 187 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,275 [man] Hey, Detective. Come on in. 188 00:10:48,275 --> 00:10:50,655 [Joe] Fraik checks back with the tech team. 189 00:10:51,655 --> 00:10:53,655 "What's in the phone that's connected to this case?" 190 00:10:54,586 --> 00:10:57,758 "Well, it's not exactly connected to your case." 191 00:10:58,172 --> 00:10:59,517 What does that mean? 192 00:10:59,517 --> 00:11:03,241 He said, "Photographs and videos of him and his girlfriend 193 00:11:03,241 --> 00:11:06,655 in, shall we say, compromising positions." 194 00:11:07,034 --> 00:11:09,344 "Oh, God. 195 00:11:10,172 --> 00:11:12,034 It's a personal porno collection. 196 00:11:12,034 --> 00:11:13,310 Is that what we're talking about?" 197 00:11:13,758 --> 00:11:14,965 "Yeah." 198 00:11:15,689 --> 00:11:17,206 Nothing of any value. 199 00:11:18,896 --> 00:11:21,586 Larry ultimately alibied out and he wasn't involved. 200 00:11:21,586 --> 00:11:23,655 Definitely probably not our guy. 201 00:11:23,655 --> 00:11:27,586 [Joe] Okay. So now what sounded so promising, 202 00:11:27,586 --> 00:11:29,482 like it often does, 203 00:11:29,482 --> 00:11:31,103 collapses. 204 00:11:35,655 --> 00:11:37,448 While this is going on with Fraik, 205 00:11:37,448 --> 00:11:40,172 crime scene investigators are still processing the scene. 206 00:11:40,172 --> 00:11:42,482 [indistinct police radio chatter] 207 00:11:42,482 --> 00:11:44,620 They examine the victim's car. 208 00:11:45,482 --> 00:11:46,655 Find anything? 209 00:11:48,172 --> 00:11:51,689 [Paul] Bemidji investigators did find mail 210 00:11:51,689 --> 00:11:53,517 inside of Melissa Norby's car... 211 00:11:55,482 --> 00:11:58,000 that gave a name of a person. 212 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,068 Rob Auchus. 213 00:12:00,896 --> 00:12:04,103 [Joe] We don't know why that mail is in the car. 214 00:12:04,896 --> 00:12:07,965 The reasonable conclusion is he's a friend, 215 00:12:07,965 --> 00:12:09,206 an associate. 216 00:12:10,586 --> 00:12:13,344 Investigators are questioning neighbors. 217 00:12:13,344 --> 00:12:15,586 "Do you know a guy named Robert Auchus?" 218 00:12:15,586 --> 00:12:18,000 "Oh, yeah. I know Robert." 219 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,586 "We'd like to talk to him." 220 00:12:19,586 --> 00:12:20,758 "Well, you better hurry up." 221 00:12:22,793 --> 00:12:24,862 [Rob] We learn that several hours after 222 00:12:24,862 --> 00:12:27,275 Melissa Norby's house burns down, 223 00:12:27,275 --> 00:12:30,344 this individual leaves town on a bus. 224 00:12:32,896 --> 00:12:35,896 What are you doing that for, Robert? 225 00:12:35,896 --> 00:12:38,551 Are you getting away from what you've done? 226 00:12:43,586 --> 00:12:46,896 Any investigation, it's always time is of the essence. 227 00:12:46,896 --> 00:12:49,655 So we wanted to find that person right away. 228 00:12:50,793 --> 00:12:53,758 We called the Cass County deputies. 229 00:12:53,758 --> 00:12:55,241 We said, "We need you to stop the bus for us." 230 00:12:57,172 --> 00:12:59,379 [Joe] If someone truly is believing 231 00:12:59,379 --> 00:13:03,448 they're gonna escape somewhere by riding a commercial bus, 232 00:13:03,448 --> 00:13:04,758 they haven't given a lot of thought to this. 233 00:13:06,379 --> 00:13:09,793 The police, with one phone call, 234 00:13:09,793 --> 00:13:12,344 turns the bus into a holding zone. 235 00:13:14,689 --> 00:13:16,241 They stop the bus 236 00:13:17,172 --> 00:13:19,448 and they recover Mr. Auchus. 237 00:13:23,551 --> 00:13:27,241 [Heather] And he talked about his relationship with the victim. 238 00:13:28,862 --> 00:13:33,000 He was upset that the victim was deceased, 239 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,000 but hadn't had a consistent relationship with her 240 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,965 for some time. 241 00:13:37,689 --> 00:13:39,965 [Joe] "So, Mr. Auchus, 242 00:13:40,793 --> 00:13:43,172 why are you suddenly on a bus 243 00:13:43,172 --> 00:13:46,517 going four or five hours away?" 244 00:13:49,068 --> 00:13:53,241 He said he was leaving town for some medical treatments. 245 00:13:55,482 --> 00:13:58,034 [Joe] He has a perfectly reasonable explanation 246 00:13:58,034 --> 00:13:59,448 for his behavior. 247 00:14:00,689 --> 00:14:02,724 He has to go to this doctor. 248 00:14:03,275 --> 00:14:05,379 And that's where he's going. 249 00:14:05,379 --> 00:14:07,758 And Holden confirms all of this. 250 00:14:10,379 --> 00:14:11,689 Auchus it out. 251 00:14:11,689 --> 00:14:13,034 He's not involved in this. 252 00:14:13,034 --> 00:14:15,172 [phone ringing] 253 00:14:19,172 --> 00:14:20,551 This is Fraik. 254 00:14:20,551 --> 00:14:24,172 In the meantime, investigators hear from the medical examiner 255 00:14:24,172 --> 00:14:27,344 the official cause of Melissa Norby's death. 256 00:14:27,344 --> 00:14:29,793 Asphyxia. 257 00:14:29,793 --> 00:14:33,827 She is dead as a result of ligature strangulation. 258 00:14:34,896 --> 00:14:37,551 Ligature is anything applied to the neck 259 00:14:38,103 --> 00:14:39,862 to cause sufficient pressure 260 00:14:39,862 --> 00:14:42,448 to stop the breathing of the victim. 261 00:14:44,172 --> 00:14:46,034 As far as trace DNA, 262 00:14:46,034 --> 00:14:47,965 if heat alone won't destroy it, 263 00:14:47,965 --> 00:14:49,551 fire will. 264 00:14:49,551 --> 00:14:52,448 [Rob] At this point, we're getting several hours into the investigation 265 00:14:52,448 --> 00:14:55,827 and we don't even really have anybody that we're looking for. 266 00:14:57,758 --> 00:14:59,000 Every hour that goes by, 267 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,275 this person can get further and further 268 00:15:01,275 --> 00:15:02,344 from the scene. 269 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,241 [Heather] I don't know if it was over the radio 270 00:15:12,241 --> 00:15:14,000 or if it was a phone call at the time, 271 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,137 but I still get tingles. 272 00:15:16,482 --> 00:15:17,655 Brittany! 273 00:15:19,379 --> 00:15:22,310 [Paul] A female came up to the crime scene, 274 00:15:23,896 --> 00:15:26,793 made contact with officers on scene 275 00:15:26,793 --> 00:15:30,379 and she told them that her 5-year-old daughter 276 00:15:30,379 --> 00:15:32,655 has spent the night with Melissa Norby. 277 00:15:34,965 --> 00:15:37,206 [Joe] She's five years old. Her name is Brittany. 278 00:15:38,896 --> 00:15:40,310 Oh, God. 279 00:15:41,793 --> 00:15:45,275 Now we've gonna from adult to child, for God's sake. 280 00:15:45,275 --> 00:15:46,620 Where is this kid? 281 00:15:47,448 --> 00:15:48,827 They have no idea. 282 00:15:49,344 --> 00:15:50,344 None. 283 00:16:02,758 --> 00:16:05,965 It's now noon-ish the day following the fire 284 00:16:05,965 --> 00:16:08,344 and here comes this distraught woman 285 00:16:08,896 --> 00:16:10,620 whose name is Amanda. 286 00:16:11,172 --> 00:16:12,482 Brittany! 287 00:16:12,482 --> 00:16:14,068 Oh, where's my daughter? 288 00:16:15,068 --> 00:16:17,724 [Joe] She's demanding to speak to someone in charge. 289 00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:19,896 [Amanda] My phone had rang. 290 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:22,275 It was Tuesdae, which is Missy's cousin, 291 00:16:22,275 --> 00:16:23,482 on the other line. 292 00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:26,172 And she said, freaking out, 293 00:16:26,172 --> 00:16:27,931 "Please tell me it's not true. 294 00:16:28,965 --> 00:16:31,068 Tell me Melissa's house is not on fire." 295 00:16:32,862 --> 00:16:34,344 And I was like, "Brittany's over there. 296 00:16:34,344 --> 00:16:35,758 What the hell are you talking about?" 297 00:16:36,793 --> 00:16:39,655 I freaked out, I hopped in my vehicle 298 00:16:39,655 --> 00:16:41,517 and I made it over there in five minutes. 299 00:16:43,379 --> 00:16:46,586 All I really remember was me saying, 300 00:16:46,586 --> 00:16:48,758 "Please tell me that's not the house." 301 00:16:50,241 --> 00:16:51,517 I dropped to my knees. 302 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,103 It was like, "Okay. That is her house." 303 00:16:56,068 --> 00:16:57,862 I told them, "My daughter is in that house. 304 00:16:57,862 --> 00:16:59,172 Brittany is in that house." 305 00:17:09,378 --> 00:17:12,758 I've known Melissa since elementary school. 306 00:17:13,275 --> 00:17:15,241 We were inseparable. 307 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:16,862 We grew up. 308 00:17:17,344 --> 00:17:19,586 Her son was my nephew and... 309 00:17:19,586 --> 00:17:22,655 my kids were her niece and nephews. 310 00:17:22,655 --> 00:17:24,964 Melissa and I, we'd always take the kids to the beach. 311 00:17:25,482 --> 00:17:27,792 Slumber parties, movies. 312 00:17:27,792 --> 00:17:30,448 Just a lot of fun family time. 313 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,517 Brittany is the baby of the family. 314 00:17:35,655 --> 00:17:37,586 Melissa was Brittany's aunt. 315 00:17:37,586 --> 00:17:39,137 Just like a second mom. 316 00:17:40,586 --> 00:17:43,068 Brittany would light up every time Missy would say, 317 00:17:43,068 --> 00:17:45,827 "Hey, do you wanna come over and spend some time with me?" 318 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,448 [Joe] She goes on to explain that it's common for Brittany 319 00:17:52,448 --> 00:17:56,068 to spend the night with Melissa Norby 320 00:17:56,068 --> 00:17:57,517 in this trailer. 321 00:17:59,689 --> 00:18:03,275 [Amanda] Melissa had called me at like nine o'clock at night. 322 00:18:03,275 --> 00:18:05,344 "Do you mind if I take Brittany?" 323 00:18:06,344 --> 00:18:09,517 She said her son is with Tuesdae. 324 00:18:11,379 --> 00:18:13,931 Well, where is Brittany now? 325 00:18:16,793 --> 00:18:19,551 The investigators do a thorough search 326 00:18:19,551 --> 00:18:20,965 of the remains of the house. 327 00:18:22,586 --> 00:18:25,551 They find no evidence of any other human remains. 328 00:18:27,793 --> 00:18:29,724 They do a thorough search of the area. 329 00:18:31,448 --> 00:18:32,655 No result. 330 00:18:33,758 --> 00:18:35,724 The child is not here. 331 00:18:38,103 --> 00:18:41,482 When you get information that there's a child missing, 332 00:18:41,482 --> 00:18:43,758 that's what knocks the wind out of you. 333 00:18:45,241 --> 00:18:47,000 Then it becomes even worse 334 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,965 when they realize another possibility. 335 00:18:50,068 --> 00:18:52,172 Somebody took the child 336 00:18:52,172 --> 00:18:54,413 and killed the babysitter. 337 00:18:56,275 --> 00:18:58,103 The longer it takes to find them, 338 00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:01,758 the less likely is that she'll be found alive. 339 00:19:01,758 --> 00:19:05,310 Every cop at that scene knows that. 340 00:19:07,586 --> 00:19:10,827 She was close to the age of one of my children. 341 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,965 You start thinking about how scared your kid would be. 342 00:19:17,241 --> 00:19:19,241 I think that mom instinct just kicks in, 343 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:20,344 no matter what. 344 00:19:22,103 --> 00:19:24,551 [Joe] So now it's all-hands-on-deck. 345 00:19:25,586 --> 00:19:26,931 Nobody's going anywhere 346 00:19:27,482 --> 00:19:29,827 until we find this kid 347 00:19:30,379 --> 00:19:32,448 and who's responsible for this. 348 00:19:36,275 --> 00:19:38,000 The focus must remain 349 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,551 on associates of the adult victim. 350 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,793 So, as I was going through Melissa's phone records, 351 00:19:44,793 --> 00:19:48,551 I was looking for anything that maybe stand out 352 00:19:48,551 --> 00:19:51,206 that wasn't a local number. 353 00:19:54,068 --> 00:19:55,379 Every hour that goes by, 354 00:19:55,379 --> 00:19:58,137 this person can get further from the scene. 355 00:19:59,482 --> 00:20:02,586 This child could be anywhere in the United States, almost, 356 00:20:02,586 --> 00:20:03,965 including up in Canada. 357 00:20:05,689 --> 00:20:07,586 [Joe] Where have we not dug yet? 358 00:20:07,586 --> 00:20:10,344 It has to be somebody that knows about that child. 359 00:20:10,896 --> 00:20:12,551 It's somebody close. 360 00:20:12,551 --> 00:20:14,965 So how do we find somebody close? 361 00:20:24,103 --> 00:20:28,000 They dispatch agents to Tuesdae Collopy's house 362 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,586 and they talk to the son. 363 00:20:30,586 --> 00:20:33,068 Do you know if your mom was seeing anybody in particular? 364 00:20:33,793 --> 00:20:34,862 They ask, "Is there anybody 365 00:20:34,862 --> 00:20:37,241 your mother has been recently seeing?" 366 00:20:37,241 --> 00:20:39,275 And he says yes. 367 00:20:39,275 --> 00:20:41,241 Well, who might that be? 368 00:20:42,655 --> 00:20:45,586 He's like, "It was Chance." 369 00:20:45,586 --> 00:20:46,482 Chance? 370 00:20:46,482 --> 00:20:47,379 Chance? 371 00:20:47,379 --> 00:20:48,379 Chance. 372 00:20:48,379 --> 00:20:50,241 And I was like, "Chance?" 373 00:20:52,241 --> 00:20:54,689 [Joe] Well, they call him "Chance." 374 00:20:54,689 --> 00:20:56,862 But that's not his real name. 375 00:20:56,862 --> 00:20:59,448 The kid says, "I don't trust him." 376 00:21:00,965 --> 00:21:03,448 [Chad] Now, Chance isn't his real name. 377 00:21:03,448 --> 00:21:05,172 She called him "Chance" because, 378 00:21:05,172 --> 00:21:06,137 in her world, 379 00:21:06,137 --> 00:21:08,724 he was her last chance at love. 380 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,862 [Amanda] Toward the end there, she was secretive about guys 381 00:21:17,068 --> 00:21:21,275 because I didn't approve of half the guys she would be with 382 00:21:21,275 --> 00:21:25,034 and her cousin really didn't care for them either. 383 00:21:26,137 --> 00:21:30,034 [Tuesdae] Melissa continually made poor choices 384 00:21:30,034 --> 00:21:35,103 about love and about her own self-respect. 385 00:21:35,103 --> 00:21:37,689 And, clearly, in Melissa's case, 386 00:21:37,689 --> 00:21:39,241 it was a weakness. 387 00:21:42,172 --> 00:21:43,241 [Chad] We immediately thought, 388 00:21:43,241 --> 00:21:46,172 "Well, why is she not using his real name?" 389 00:21:46,172 --> 00:21:48,862 Is he married? Like, why are we not seeing him 390 00:21:48,862 --> 00:21:50,379 in her social media? 391 00:21:50,379 --> 00:21:53,172 'Cause we're several hours into this investigation 392 00:21:53,172 --> 00:21:54,482 and we have a pretty good handle 393 00:21:54,482 --> 00:21:56,482 on who she's talking to online. 394 00:21:56,482 --> 00:21:58,862 And he's nowhere to be found. 395 00:22:00,103 --> 00:22:03,448 And then her son said, "Yeah, he has a food truck." 396 00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,482 [Chad] There's not a lot of food truck's around here. 397 00:22:07,482 --> 00:22:09,068 Well, let's make a call to the city clerk 398 00:22:09,068 --> 00:22:10,344 and figure this out. 399 00:22:20,758 --> 00:22:22,965 [Rob] I remember I was at the law enforcement center 400 00:22:22,965 --> 00:22:26,896 when the food truck information can back. 401 00:22:26,896 --> 00:22:28,758 Okay, listen up, folks. 402 00:22:30,034 --> 00:22:31,448 [Heather] It was later in the evening 403 00:22:31,448 --> 00:22:33,551 we were in a briefing, 404 00:22:33,551 --> 00:22:35,103 so I remember it was like 405 00:22:36,172 --> 00:22:37,931 the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. 406 00:22:39,275 --> 00:22:40,586 [Chad] City clerk said, "Yeah, 407 00:22:40,586 --> 00:22:42,068 there's a new food truck in town. 408 00:22:42,068 --> 00:22:44,034 It's Jake's Eats, 409 00:22:44,586 --> 00:22:46,103 owned by Jacob Kinn." 410 00:22:48,241 --> 00:22:49,862 It's one of those moments in your life 411 00:22:49,862 --> 00:22:52,586 that you'll never forget where you were standing, 412 00:22:52,586 --> 00:22:55,758 what the room smelt, heard and felt like. 413 00:22:56,482 --> 00:22:57,655 And it got quiet. 414 00:22:58,551 --> 00:23:00,965 Oh, my God, Jacob Kinn. 415 00:23:02,482 --> 00:23:04,241 Well, we all knew who Jacob Kinn was. 416 00:23:05,379 --> 00:23:08,655 He was on probation for a sexual-related offence. 417 00:23:09,068 --> 00:23:10,862 He was one of those guys 418 00:23:10,862 --> 00:23:13,344 that would be fully capable of kidnapping a girl. 419 00:23:14,482 --> 00:23:15,793 [Joe] He is the guy. 420 00:23:15,793 --> 00:23:16,793 He's the guy. 421 00:23:16,793 --> 00:23:18,793 Even if you haven't seen him yet. 422 00:23:18,793 --> 00:23:20,241 He is somehow. I know it. 423 00:23:32,137 --> 00:23:33,862 [Joe] Investigators are looking at the record 424 00:23:33,862 --> 00:23:37,275 of 32-year-old Jacob Kinn. 425 00:23:37,275 --> 00:23:39,758 He is currently on probation 426 00:23:39,758 --> 00:23:42,482 for possession of child pornography. 427 00:23:42,482 --> 00:23:45,137 He is friends with a woman who's now dead, 428 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,551 who had a child in her possession, 429 00:23:48,551 --> 00:23:50,827 and now the child is missing. 430 00:23:52,586 --> 00:23:54,379 [Rob] It just seemed so obvious once his name came up. 431 00:23:54,379 --> 00:23:56,793 Of course this would be him. 432 00:23:56,793 --> 00:23:58,896 Why are we looking for all these other suspects 433 00:23:58,896 --> 00:24:01,931 when he should have been suspect number one. 434 00:24:03,034 --> 00:24:05,241 [Joe] It is always the case in investigations 435 00:24:05,241 --> 00:24:08,068 you're gonna get the wrong guy in your sights. 436 00:24:08,862 --> 00:24:10,965 But when you get the right one, 437 00:24:10,965 --> 00:24:13,448 that's when you can feel it in your bones. 438 00:24:18,482 --> 00:24:20,344 [Chad] I talked to Mom and Dad that evening. 439 00:24:20,344 --> 00:24:21,344 They were distraught. 440 00:24:22,172 --> 00:24:26,000 [Amanda] My emotions were like everywhere 441 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,482 because, well, I lost my sister 442 00:24:29,482 --> 00:24:31,551 and then my daughter was gone. 443 00:24:32,689 --> 00:24:35,241 [Rob] So early evening on June 22nd, 444 00:24:35,241 --> 00:24:37,448 we went to Jacob's residence. 445 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,586 Pretty rural area, 446 00:24:40,586 --> 00:24:43,206 almost an off-grid type cabin. 447 00:24:44,793 --> 00:24:46,172 He had left. 448 00:24:46,172 --> 00:24:48,241 We walked around the property. 449 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,275 Hey, Holden. 450 00:24:50,275 --> 00:24:51,965 -Huh? -Look. 451 00:24:53,172 --> 00:24:55,000 [Rob] There were some pretty obvious indicators 452 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,275 this person might be it. 453 00:24:57,275 --> 00:25:01,103 There's a spot of dead grass next to other gas cans, 454 00:25:01,103 --> 00:25:03,793 which surely indicates that he got a gas can 455 00:25:03,793 --> 00:25:06,034 from right here at his house 456 00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:09,000 and used that to light the arson fire 457 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,724 of Melissa Norby's home. 458 00:25:11,689 --> 00:25:13,275 It's pretty damning evidence. 459 00:25:13,275 --> 00:25:15,034 However, no little girl. 460 00:25:19,137 --> 00:25:20,793 [Joe] The search for Brittany is continued 461 00:25:20,793 --> 00:25:22,758 as day becomes night. 462 00:25:23,793 --> 00:25:26,000 At that point, everybody's out running leads. 463 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,482 They're literally doing everything they can 464 00:25:28,482 --> 00:25:32,000 to figure out where this little girl might be... 465 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,172 [phone ringing] 466 00:25:33,172 --> 00:25:35,517 ...where Jacob Kinn has been for the last 24 hours. 467 00:25:36,068 --> 00:25:37,241 [Jacob on phone] Hello? 468 00:25:37,241 --> 00:25:40,689 [Joe] The probation officer reaches Jacob by phone 469 00:25:40,689 --> 00:25:43,241 and he tells him to report to police headquarters 470 00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:44,344 right now. 471 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,241 He did not make it to the law enforcement center 472 00:25:58,241 --> 00:25:59,758 till midnight. 473 00:26:01,689 --> 00:26:04,379 [Rob] When he arrived, we noticed on his vehicle 474 00:26:04,379 --> 00:26:06,862 there was tall grass hanging underneath it. 475 00:26:08,241 --> 00:26:10,862 It looked like it had been driving through a field. 476 00:26:14,689 --> 00:26:18,965 Jacob Kinn's feet and pants were also wet. 477 00:26:20,034 --> 00:26:22,551 Again, we had got a ton of rain. 478 00:26:22,551 --> 00:26:23,965 Your feet and pants don't get wet 479 00:26:23,965 --> 00:26:27,482 if you're walking in a parking lot after a rain. 480 00:26:27,482 --> 00:26:29,000 But they would get soaking wet 481 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,655 if you were walking through a field. 482 00:26:34,586 --> 00:26:37,965 He was interviewed by Special Agent Paul Gherardi 483 00:26:37,965 --> 00:26:39,724 and Special Agent Chad Museus. 484 00:26:40,448 --> 00:26:42,379 Agent Gherardi and Agent Museus 485 00:26:42,379 --> 00:26:43,862 are interrogators. 486 00:26:45,172 --> 00:26:47,241 Jacob Kinn screwed up 487 00:26:47,241 --> 00:26:49,689 by stepping into an interview room 488 00:26:49,689 --> 00:26:51,172 with Chad and Paul. 489 00:26:57,103 --> 00:27:00,241 After the probation officer called Jacob Kinn, 490 00:27:00,241 --> 00:27:03,655 we were able to get the cell phone location. 491 00:27:10,103 --> 00:27:12,448 Based on where his cell phone pinged... 492 00:27:13,896 --> 00:27:15,655 he was in Bigfork, 493 00:27:16,586 --> 00:27:18,862 30-40 miles away from Clear Lake 494 00:27:18,862 --> 00:27:20,000 where he said he was. 495 00:27:36,482 --> 00:27:39,931 Kinn is denying any type of relationship with Melissa. 496 00:27:49,965 --> 00:27:51,689 He denied knowing the little girl 497 00:27:51,689 --> 00:27:53,655 or ever having contact with the little girl. 498 00:27:59,586 --> 00:28:01,827 He would give short one-word answers. 499 00:28:02,896 --> 00:28:05,172 He's pushed away from the table. 500 00:28:05,172 --> 00:28:07,344 He's sitting back with his arms crossed. 501 00:28:08,551 --> 00:28:11,172 He had some non-verbal body language 502 00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:13,241 that he was uncomfortable. 503 00:28:14,379 --> 00:28:16,000 [Chad] His responses to our questions 504 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,241 made us not very optimistic. 505 00:28:19,241 --> 00:28:22,344 I was worried we wouldn't have a good outcome. 506 00:28:23,655 --> 00:28:26,275 [Joe] Jacob is being Mr. Innocent, 507 00:28:26,275 --> 00:28:27,758 not knowing anything about anything. 508 00:28:27,758 --> 00:28:29,275 That's pretty normal 509 00:28:29,275 --> 00:28:31,482 for a guy with experience in the system. 510 00:28:31,482 --> 00:28:34,517 He'll make no admissions of any kind. 511 00:28:35,482 --> 00:28:38,689 It's been almost 24 hours since the murder, 512 00:28:38,689 --> 00:28:40,034 and Jacob says, 513 00:28:40,034 --> 00:28:42,103 "If you don't arrest me, I'm going home." 514 00:28:42,103 --> 00:28:44,000 "No, we're not gonna arrest you, Jacob. 515 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,310 Not yet, anyway." 516 00:28:46,793 --> 00:28:48,586 [Paul] He was allowed to leave 517 00:28:48,586 --> 00:28:51,068 about 4:30 that morning. 518 00:28:52,103 --> 00:28:53,551 [Chad] We took his phone, 519 00:28:54,172 --> 00:28:55,482 we took his clothes 520 00:28:55,482 --> 00:28:56,758 and we took his jeep. 521 00:28:59,379 --> 00:29:01,103 His dad came and picked him up. 522 00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:03,241 He left angry. 523 00:29:04,137 --> 00:29:07,068 And we left there feeling as though... 524 00:29:07,068 --> 00:29:08,482 we had a double murder. 525 00:29:10,275 --> 00:29:13,310 We sent surveillance units out because now we knew where he was at. 526 00:29:14,275 --> 00:29:17,379 [Joe] Our perpetrator has 12 or 14 hours 527 00:29:17,379 --> 00:29:20,137 to decide what to do with this child. 528 00:29:20,137 --> 00:29:21,862 The statistics are overwhelming. 529 00:29:21,862 --> 00:29:23,896 The longer this takes, 530 00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:26,862 the less likely the outcome will be good. 531 00:29:28,586 --> 00:29:30,896 At that point, we just really thought 532 00:29:30,896 --> 00:29:32,551 he brought her somewhere rural, 533 00:29:33,172 --> 00:29:34,379 and that the next morning, 534 00:29:34,379 --> 00:29:36,965 we were going to begin trying to locate 535 00:29:36,965 --> 00:29:37,965 where he put her. 536 00:29:44,965 --> 00:29:46,482 [Heather] I came home and I remember 537 00:29:46,482 --> 00:29:48,034 I laid down in the cot 538 00:29:48,034 --> 00:29:50,965 and my oldest had been waiting for me to come home. 539 00:29:50,965 --> 00:29:53,551 And all she did was reach up and took my hand. 540 00:29:54,965 --> 00:30:01,000 So I fell asleep holding her hand. 541 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,448 [voice shaking] And... 542 00:30:03,448 --> 00:30:10,344 that just intensified that we have to get this kid back, 543 00:30:10,965 --> 00:30:13,000 whether she's alive or dead, 544 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,931 because I would wanna know. 545 00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:20,655 Mmm-mmm. 546 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,758 I don't wanna talk about that anymore. 547 00:30:25,586 --> 00:30:28,206 Too many memories creep back for me, my boy. 548 00:30:38,275 --> 00:30:42,000 [Rob] Myself and Senior Special Agent Don Newhouse 549 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,241 got in his car to drive to Bigfork. 550 00:30:46,275 --> 00:30:48,586 We really needed more information 551 00:30:48,586 --> 00:30:52,655 on what he had done up in that area. 552 00:30:52,655 --> 00:30:54,689 We called Itasca County Sheriff's Office, 553 00:30:54,689 --> 00:30:56,137 our neighboring county. 554 00:30:57,172 --> 00:31:02,758 [Joe] It turns out his brother owns 40 acres of ground in Bigfork. 555 00:31:03,689 --> 00:31:04,689 What's up with that? 556 00:31:04,689 --> 00:31:07,137 What is drawing him to the 40 acres? 557 00:31:09,103 --> 00:31:11,896 [Rob] Jacob Kinn could have put this little girl 558 00:31:11,896 --> 00:31:14,275 anywhere in northern Minnesota. 559 00:31:14,275 --> 00:31:18,896 Why would Jacob Kinn put her on property 560 00:31:18,896 --> 00:31:22,689 that's deeded to somebody that shares his last name? 561 00:31:22,689 --> 00:31:25,172 And without missing a beat, 562 00:31:25,172 --> 00:31:27,655 Agent Newhouse explained, "That's controlled access. 563 00:31:27,655 --> 00:31:28,896 He's gonna go back." 564 00:31:30,793 --> 00:31:35,482 We had to do basically a map reconnaissance of the area. 565 00:31:35,482 --> 00:31:38,379 We had a specific gravel road in mind 566 00:31:38,379 --> 00:31:39,689 that led to the property. 567 00:31:39,689 --> 00:31:43,862 And when we pulled onto the gravel, 568 00:31:44,551 --> 00:31:46,655 I could see one set of tracks. 569 00:31:48,172 --> 00:31:51,965 At that point, we stopped, got out 570 00:31:51,965 --> 00:31:53,758 and we continued to walk 571 00:31:54,551 --> 00:31:56,034 following the tracks 572 00:31:56,034 --> 00:31:58,379 until we came to the top of a hill 573 00:31:58,379 --> 00:32:01,344 and we noticed a pickup camper parked along the wood line. 574 00:32:03,965 --> 00:32:08,068 We walked up and the doorknob was wrapped tight 575 00:32:08,068 --> 00:32:09,034 with electrical tape. 576 00:32:10,689 --> 00:32:12,379 I felt like, one way or the other, 577 00:32:12,379 --> 00:32:13,862 we were getting close. 578 00:32:16,551 --> 00:32:18,275 They both know they're gonna find that child 579 00:32:18,275 --> 00:32:19,517 one way or the other. 580 00:32:19,896 --> 00:32:21,379 The question is, 581 00:32:21,379 --> 00:32:23,758 is it the child or the child's remains? 582 00:32:35,379 --> 00:32:36,310 [Rob] I grabbed my shirt 583 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:37,551 and kind of just pulled on the tape. 584 00:32:39,137 --> 00:32:40,931 And I flipped the door open. 585 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,448 And there's a little girl sitting there on the bed. 586 00:32:53,482 --> 00:32:56,482 I'm basically in disbelief in what I'm seeing 587 00:32:56,482 --> 00:32:59,620 and trying to muster together the words. 588 00:33:00,068 --> 00:33:01,793 Is it okay if I come in? 589 00:33:01,793 --> 00:33:03,379 Okay, you don't have to be scared, okay? 590 00:33:03,379 --> 00:33:04,620 We're the police. 591 00:33:05,448 --> 00:33:08,206 Okay, my name's Rob and this is Don. 592 00:33:08,206 --> 00:33:09,413 How old are you? 593 00:33:25,379 --> 00:33:26,482 Yeah. Um... 594 00:33:26,482 --> 00:33:28,793 Yeah, I've watched that video quite a few times. 595 00:33:28,793 --> 00:33:30,379 [inhales] Um... 596 00:33:30,379 --> 00:33:33,172 It's... Yeah, you know. You get the same reaction... 597 00:33:33,172 --> 00:33:34,172 every time. 598 00:33:34,172 --> 00:33:35,275 Um... 599 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,379 I don't know if a lot of folks realize really 600 00:33:43,379 --> 00:33:46,551 how hard some of these cases are. 601 00:33:48,379 --> 00:33:50,000 [Joe] There she is. 602 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,896 Not the end of the story, 603 00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:54,896 but no longer necessary to search for Brittany 604 00:33:54,896 --> 00:33:57,000 'cause the police have her in their arms. 605 00:33:58,344 --> 00:34:01,000 [Rob] We got back to the car and I said, 606 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,206 "Don, take a picture and then send this out to the group." 607 00:34:09,585 --> 00:34:12,000 [Paul] I still get chills talking about today, 608 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,310 how many years afterwards. 609 00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:18,379 I can't almost physically describe that feeling. 610 00:34:20,447 --> 00:34:23,551 [Heather] I cried so hard in the car 611 00:34:23,551 --> 00:34:26,965 because I was so happy that she was alive. 612 00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:28,724 [voice shaking] And so, um... 613 00:34:29,103 --> 00:34:30,241 Sorry. 614 00:34:34,655 --> 00:34:35,585 [Chad] I've had a great career. 615 00:34:35,585 --> 00:34:38,172 I've done a lot of really cool things. 616 00:34:38,172 --> 00:34:41,482 The outcome, finding our missing girl, 617 00:34:41,482 --> 00:34:43,793 definitely the best of my career. 618 00:34:43,793 --> 00:34:45,241 Definitely. 619 00:34:49,655 --> 00:34:51,896 [Amanda] My phone rang 620 00:34:51,896 --> 00:34:54,379 and he says, "Amanda, we have your daughter. 621 00:34:54,379 --> 00:34:56,000 We have Brittany." 622 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,068 And I said, "Please tell me she is alive." 623 00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:02,379 And he said, "Yes. She's alive." 624 00:35:03,896 --> 00:35:06,137 This picture actually is the reason 625 00:35:06,137 --> 00:35:08,310 I call them family. 626 00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:09,965 The Sheriff's Department, the BCA, 627 00:35:10,379 --> 00:35:12,034 everybody involved, 628 00:35:12,379 --> 00:35:13,758 they're family. 629 00:35:15,965 --> 00:35:18,241 [Joe] There's always moments in law enforcement 630 00:35:18,241 --> 00:35:19,793 that reenforce the idea 631 00:35:19,793 --> 00:35:22,241 of why you took the oath in the first place. 632 00:35:22,241 --> 00:35:24,206 This is one of those days. 633 00:35:28,758 --> 00:35:31,724 Kinn is wanted for murder and kidnapping. 634 00:35:32,862 --> 00:35:34,344 And now the whole State of Minnesota 635 00:35:34,344 --> 00:35:36,034 is looking for this creep. 636 00:35:38,689 --> 00:35:41,241 We're setting up a perimeter near the camper 637 00:35:41,241 --> 00:35:43,000 where the girl was found 638 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,862 because we know that's where he's gonna go. 639 00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:48,310 And that's where they find him... 640 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:49,448 [siren wailing] 641 00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,448 ...on the road back to the camper. 642 00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:56,862 [Joe] They find him sleeping in his father's truck. 643 00:35:56,862 --> 00:35:58,344 Put your hands behind your back. 644 00:36:00,379 --> 00:36:03,137 [Joe] Being the criminal genius that he is, 645 00:36:03,137 --> 00:36:04,551 he's decides it's more important 646 00:36:04,551 --> 00:36:06,482 to sleep in a vehicle that's being looked at 647 00:36:06,482 --> 00:36:09,103 by every policeman in the State of Minnesota. 648 00:36:11,034 --> 00:36:12,034 They bring him in. 649 00:36:12,379 --> 00:36:13,551 Here he is. 650 00:36:26,965 --> 00:36:29,103 [Paul] We asked what changed from the previous night, 651 00:36:29,103 --> 00:36:31,689 and I showed him the picture of Rob and Brittany 652 00:36:31,689 --> 00:36:33,034 and Brittany alive. 653 00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:36,620 His eyes kind of rolled back. 654 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,448 [Joe] Well, okay, Jacob. 655 00:36:52,448 --> 00:36:54,448 That'll still work. 656 00:36:54,448 --> 00:36:56,551 And you're being held without bond 657 00:36:56,551 --> 00:36:58,482 for first degree murder, 658 00:36:58,482 --> 00:37:00,206 kidnapping of a minor child. 659 00:37:01,068 --> 00:37:02,448 And they lock him up. 660 00:37:03,965 --> 00:37:07,689 But what happened that Jacob decided to kill Melissa 661 00:37:07,689 --> 00:37:09,655 and burn her house down around her? 662 00:37:16,068 --> 00:37:18,758 [Chad] I remember the anger, 663 00:37:19,034 --> 00:37:20,551 the surprise, 664 00:37:20,551 --> 00:37:22,034 the frustration 665 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,758 when we saw those text messages. 666 00:37:27,448 --> 00:37:29,000 [Heather] The technical service agent 667 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,034 was going through the electronics. 668 00:37:33,206 --> 00:37:34,965 And he said, "Holy [bleep], 669 00:37:34,965 --> 00:37:36,379 you're not gonna believe what I found." 670 00:37:38,379 --> 00:37:41,862 Jacob Kinn had basically demanded 671 00:37:41,862 --> 00:37:43,724 that Melissa get the little girl 672 00:37:44,965 --> 00:37:48,103 and bring her to the house 673 00:37:48,103 --> 00:37:51,310 the night that he decided to kill Melissa Norby. 674 00:37:51,310 --> 00:37:54,551 And Melissa Norby helped do that. 675 00:37:56,758 --> 00:38:00,586 And her actions directly resulted 676 00:38:00,586 --> 00:38:02,965 in this little girl's abduction. 677 00:38:05,965 --> 00:38:09,965 Disturbing to the point of absolute shock. 678 00:38:09,965 --> 00:38:12,413 It is apparent from the texting 679 00:38:13,068 --> 00:38:15,103 that Melissa is part of the plot. 680 00:38:15,586 --> 00:38:17,000 Were she alive, 681 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,586 she'd be in custody. 682 00:38:19,586 --> 00:38:22,068 But she's in a drawer at the morgue. 683 00:38:23,689 --> 00:38:28,068 [Tuesdae] I can say that I would never have expected 684 00:38:28,068 --> 00:38:29,758 this from Melissa. 685 00:38:30,586 --> 00:38:32,793 She didn't always make the best choices. 686 00:38:32,793 --> 00:38:34,862 But I just... 687 00:38:34,862 --> 00:38:37,448 I would have never have thought she was capable... 688 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:39,862 of this. 689 00:38:39,862 --> 00:38:41,655 I'm really angry at her still. 690 00:38:45,482 --> 00:38:47,551 [Amanda] I never knew what hate was... 691 00:38:48,482 --> 00:38:50,344 until that day. 692 00:38:50,344 --> 00:38:51,689 It's like... 693 00:38:51,689 --> 00:38:54,448 how can somebody that you've known for 30-plus years 694 00:38:54,448 --> 00:38:55,827 do that to you? 695 00:38:57,482 --> 00:38:59,862 [Joe] Melissa Norby had the same problem 696 00:38:59,862 --> 00:39:02,551 that Jacob Kinn has, 697 00:39:02,551 --> 00:39:07,241 a twisted sexual desire that overwhelmed her. 698 00:39:07,241 --> 00:39:11,034 Overwhelmed her judgment, her kinship with other humans, 699 00:39:11,034 --> 00:39:12,103 her friendships. 700 00:39:12,103 --> 00:39:13,551 All of it meant nothing. 701 00:39:14,344 --> 00:39:16,724 These people are scum. 702 00:39:17,586 --> 00:39:18,965 Both of them. 703 00:39:21,758 --> 00:39:24,137 As the case proceeds forward, 704 00:39:24,137 --> 00:39:27,241 Jacob decides to accept a plea bargain. 705 00:39:28,551 --> 00:39:30,206 Jacob stands up in court 706 00:39:30,206 --> 00:39:31,689 and he says, 707 00:39:31,689 --> 00:39:34,310 "Well, the plan was to kidnap the child 708 00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:37,172 and keep her as a sex toy for the two of us. 709 00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,379 Melissa also enjoys rough sex 710 00:39:41,379 --> 00:39:42,827 and edge games. 711 00:39:44,344 --> 00:39:46,655 In the alternative lifestyle, 712 00:39:46,655 --> 00:39:49,379 you bring someone to the edge of death 713 00:39:49,965 --> 00:39:51,551 to enhance their orgasm." 714 00:39:53,689 --> 00:39:55,862 He puts the belt around her neck 715 00:39:56,793 --> 00:39:59,551 in a manner of erotic asphyxia. 716 00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:03,517 Jacob says something went wrong... 717 00:40:07,379 --> 00:40:08,793 and she died 718 00:40:08,793 --> 00:40:10,517 during this experience. 719 00:40:13,896 --> 00:40:15,448 When she dies, he panics... 720 00:40:16,448 --> 00:40:18,241 and he throws gas everywhere, 721 00:40:19,586 --> 00:40:21,310 kidnaps the 5-year-old girl... 722 00:40:25,206 --> 00:40:27,413 ...ignites the place and runs away. 723 00:40:32,103 --> 00:40:34,068 So, at the end of the day, 724 00:40:34,068 --> 00:40:38,241 Jacob Kinn gets 52 years in the Minnesota State Penitentiary. 725 00:40:39,344 --> 00:40:41,275 I would have handled that completely differently. 726 00:40:41,275 --> 00:40:43,551 If anybody needs a bullet, 727 00:40:43,551 --> 00:40:45,344 it's Jacob Kinn. 728 00:40:47,896 --> 00:40:49,965 [Chad] I'll never believe she died of an accident. 729 00:40:50,689 --> 00:40:52,000 I think, all along, 730 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,137 the plan was to kill her. 731 00:40:55,482 --> 00:40:56,689 [Rob] Melissa didn't know 732 00:40:56,689 --> 00:40:59,068 she wasn't part of the long-term plan. 733 00:40:59,896 --> 00:41:01,482 She was gonna be dead and burned 734 00:41:01,482 --> 00:41:04,413 and Jacob was gonna take the little girl. 735 00:41:05,793 --> 00:41:09,034 [Amanda] For Brittany, it's hard for her to talk about what happened. 736 00:41:09,034 --> 00:41:11,000 But she makes it through. 737 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,965 She's still the rock that she was. 738 00:41:13,965 --> 00:41:16,241 The way I parent now... 739 00:41:16,241 --> 00:41:17,448 is... 740 00:41:19,482 --> 00:41:20,758 I baby them, 741 00:41:20,758 --> 00:41:22,379 because I never know 742 00:41:22,379 --> 00:41:24,896 if it's gonna be the last day I'll see them. 743 00:41:24,896 --> 00:41:27,275 Parenting is really difficult now. 744 00:41:33,793 --> 00:41:36,241 That's what makes it hard as a mom. 745 00:41:42,758 --> 00:41:44,241 [Rob] You do your best to separate 746 00:41:44,241 --> 00:41:46,172 what you're doing at work from your family life. 747 00:41:46,172 --> 00:41:48,551 And, um, sometimes, you just can't. 748 00:41:49,275 --> 00:41:50,862 Is it okay if I come in? 749 00:41:50,862 --> 00:41:53,172 [Joe] The Mariana Trench is child's play 750 00:41:53,172 --> 00:41:56,758 compared to the depth of depravity in humans. 751 00:41:58,275 --> 00:42:00,137 It doesn't happen in Mother Nature, 752 00:42:00,655 --> 00:42:02,551 not in the animal kingdom. 753 00:42:02,551 --> 00:42:04,310 Humans are disappointing 754 00:42:04,310 --> 00:42:06,206 in so many ways. 755 00:42:08,275 --> 00:42:10,793 That's what makes them so dangerous.