1 00:00:04,004 --> 00:00:05,179 Barbara was very creative. 2 00:00:05,179 --> 00:00:08,312 She was always very theatrical. 3 00:00:08,312 --> 00:00:10,097 I always thought she was a genius 4 00:00:10,097 --> 00:00:14,188 because everything came so easy to her. 5 00:00:14,188 --> 00:00:16,059 [Narrator] Is found brutally murdered 6 00:00:16,059 --> 00:00:17,756 in a mountain canyon. [suspenseful music] 7 00:00:17,756 --> 00:00:19,062 [gunfire blasting] 8 00:00:19,062 --> 00:00:21,195 We could see five or six gunshot wounds. 9 00:00:21,195 --> 00:00:22,979 There was some speculation 10 00:00:22,979 --> 00:00:24,285 that she had been sexually assaulted. 11 00:00:24,285 --> 00:00:25,982 [Narrator] A clue left by the victim 12 00:00:25,982 --> 00:00:28,202 leads to surprising suspects. 13 00:00:28,202 --> 00:00:32,075 He finds this note addressed to all the Mormon roommates 14 00:00:32,075 --> 00:00:35,078 that she was leaving to go be with her people. 15 00:00:35,078 --> 00:00:37,385 Just how bad was this relationship 16 00:00:37,385 --> 00:00:38,995 with her roommates, 17 00:00:38,995 --> 00:00:41,998 and what could it cause anyone to do? 18 00:00:41,998 --> 00:00:44,740 [Narrator] And a series of bizarre twists. 19 00:00:45,697 --> 00:00:47,090 He's telling us that 20 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:49,136 bullet holes were in a triangular pattern, 21 00:00:49,136 --> 00:00:53,096 and that that's a sign of a possible Satan killing. 22 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:55,185 Somebody took her up there into the woods. 23 00:00:55,185 --> 00:00:57,231 This was potentially a sacrifice. 24 00:00:57,231 --> 00:01:00,147 [Narrator] Until the evidence reveals a killer 25 00:01:00,147 --> 00:01:01,844 no one saw coming. 26 00:01:01,844 --> 00:01:06,501 There was DNA from the soil that was underneath her body. 27 00:01:06,501 --> 00:01:09,025 It was like finding a needle in a haystack, 28 00:01:09,025 --> 00:01:10,505 a big haystack. 29 00:01:10,505 --> 00:01:12,115 He just didn't seem like somebody 30 00:01:12,115 --> 00:01:13,812 who would kill somebody. 31 00:01:13,812 --> 00:01:18,078 It was just the biggest shock you could fathom. 32 00:01:19,035 --> 00:01:21,820 [dramatic music] 33 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:29,001 [bright music] 34 00:01:29,001 --> 00:01:31,961 [Narrator] Provo, Utah, a small college town 35 00:01:31,961 --> 00:01:34,137 in a picture-perfect mountain setting. 36 00:01:36,008 --> 00:01:37,749 It sits in a county south of Salt Lake. 37 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:41,275 It's where the Brigham Young University campus is at. 38 00:01:41,275 --> 00:01:43,190 It's a very safe community. 39 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:47,063 During the 1970s, Provo was definitely 40 00:01:47,063 --> 00:01:50,022 a place that was very low on crime, 41 00:01:50,022 --> 00:01:51,546 and you didn't have to worry 42 00:01:51,546 --> 00:01:53,852 about locking your doors at night. 43 00:01:53,852 --> 00:01:55,332 [Narrator] That innocence is lost 44 00:01:55,332 --> 00:01:58,901 on a cold March afternoon in 1974, 45 00:01:58,901 --> 00:02:01,643 when a grisly discovery in a nearby canyon 46 00:02:01,643 --> 00:02:04,167 sends shockwaves through the community. 47 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:06,343 On March 11, 1974, 48 00:02:06,343 --> 00:02:08,258 the Salt Lake County Sheriff's office 49 00:02:08,258 --> 00:02:12,001 received a telephone call from a power company worker 50 00:02:12,001 --> 00:02:15,091 who had started walking up from the power plant, 51 00:02:15,091 --> 00:02:16,571 [dramatic music] 52 00:02:16,571 --> 00:02:18,399 and as he was cutting through some brush, 53 00:02:18,399 --> 00:02:20,270 he came across a white female 54 00:02:20,270 --> 00:02:22,794 with gunshot wounds to her back. 55 00:02:24,231 --> 00:02:26,189 The crime scene is essentially 56 00:02:26,189 --> 00:02:28,104 a couple of miles up what we call 57 00:02:28,104 --> 00:02:29,758 Big Cottonwood Canyon. 58 00:02:29,758 --> 00:02:32,108 [Narrator] Investigators race to the canyon 59 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:35,329 where the utility worker leads them to the body. 60 00:02:35,329 --> 00:02:38,245 We could see five or six gunshot wounds. 61 00:02:38,245 --> 00:02:42,249 All of them looked to be in her back or in her arm. 62 00:02:42,249 --> 00:02:46,122 The shot placements looked like execution type shots, 63 00:02:46,122 --> 00:02:47,993 and it looked like she had been there 64 00:02:47,993 --> 00:02:50,126 for a few hours at least. 65 00:02:50,126 --> 00:02:52,433 With the way that her body was positioned, 66 00:02:52,433 --> 00:02:56,263 we felt like sexual assault was part of this crime scene. 67 00:02:56,263 --> 00:02:59,135 Her arms were tucked up underneath her. 68 00:02:59,135 --> 00:03:01,268 That told us that she was in pain. 69 00:03:01,268 --> 00:03:04,096 That she was fearful of what was happening to her. 70 00:03:04,096 --> 00:03:06,664 We're looking for things like drag marks, 71 00:03:06,664 --> 00:03:11,278 but the ground around the body was not disturbed. 72 00:03:11,278 --> 00:03:14,411 It looks like where she was is where she was killed. 73 00:03:15,978 --> 00:03:18,241 [Narrator] Detectives are stuck buy an unusual detail. 74 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:20,069 Her clothes were folded neatly 75 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:21,984 and piled towards the top of her head. 76 00:03:21,984 --> 00:03:23,246 We suspected that the victim 77 00:03:23,246 --> 00:03:25,466 was probably trying to buy some time. 78 00:03:25,466 --> 00:03:27,859 As she was being told to undress, 79 00:03:27,859 --> 00:03:31,428 she was stacking her clothes in this neat pile. 80 00:03:31,428 --> 00:03:33,256 [Narrator] More evidence is revealed 81 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:35,040 when they turn the victim over. 82 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,173 We found some possibly 83 00:03:37,173 --> 00:03:39,828 38 caliber bullets that were recovered 84 00:03:39,828 --> 00:03:42,134 after they had gone through the victim's body. 85 00:03:42,134 --> 00:03:44,224 We also picked up some soil 86 00:03:44,224 --> 00:03:46,269 and logged it into our evidence room. 87 00:03:46,269 --> 00:03:47,662 Detectives back in the '70s, 88 00:03:47,662 --> 00:03:49,229 the didn't have the DNA that we have 89 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:52,275 in today's crime scene investigations. 90 00:03:52,275 --> 00:03:54,321 They focused on all kinds of trace evidence 91 00:03:54,321 --> 00:03:58,020 like the soil, fibers, hairs, 92 00:03:58,020 --> 00:03:59,848 may link the suspect to that scene. 93 00:03:59,848 --> 00:04:01,415 [suspenseful music] 94 00:04:01,415 --> 00:04:03,678 [Narrator] While the body is taken to the morgue, 95 00:04:03,678 --> 00:04:06,855 detectives interview their only witness. 96 00:04:06,855 --> 00:04:08,683 The only thing we really knew at this point 97 00:04:08,683 --> 00:04:12,382 was a utility worker had found this body, 98 00:04:12,382 --> 00:04:15,211 and we were able to clear him fairly quickly. 99 00:04:15,211 --> 00:04:17,039 But we didn't know who the victim was. 100 00:04:17,039 --> 00:04:18,736 We didn't have any other real suspects 101 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:20,085 to go with at that point. 102 00:04:20,085 --> 00:04:22,349 We got a hold of the local media. 103 00:04:22,349 --> 00:04:26,353 Let them know that we had a white female Jane Doe 104 00:04:26,353 --> 00:04:28,311 that we were trying to identify. 105 00:04:28,311 --> 00:04:29,443 Later that night, 106 00:04:29,443 --> 00:04:31,314 we received a telephone call 107 00:04:31,314 --> 00:04:34,230 from the Brigham Young University Police Department 108 00:04:34,230 --> 00:04:37,320 that they had received a missing person report 109 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,496 of a white female earlier that day. 110 00:04:39,496 --> 00:04:42,064 The missing person in Provo 111 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:44,327 matched the description of our Jane Doe. 112 00:04:44,327 --> 00:04:45,459 [Narrator] The missing person 113 00:04:45,459 --> 00:04:47,330 is 22-year-old student, 114 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:49,071 Barbara Jean Rocky, 115 00:04:49,071 --> 00:04:51,378 but police need a formal identification 116 00:04:51,378 --> 00:04:54,816 to be sure she's also their murder victim. 117 00:04:54,816 --> 00:04:57,471 [Todd] We made a phone call down to a couple of the guys 118 00:04:57,471 --> 00:04:59,342 that were hanging out with Barbara. 119 00:04:59,342 --> 00:05:01,039 Gerry Hicker is the one that filed 120 00:05:01,039 --> 00:05:02,258 the missing person's report. 121 00:05:02,258 --> 00:05:05,392 Gerry is also a student at BYU, 122 00:05:05,392 --> 00:05:07,437 and he was a friend of Barbara's 123 00:05:07,437 --> 00:05:09,700 and some of her roommates. 124 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:13,269 Edward Fisher and Gerry Hicker went to the morgue 125 00:05:13,269 --> 00:05:16,228 to do an identification on our Jane Doe. 126 00:05:16,228 --> 00:05:17,708 [Narrator] Edward and Gerry confirm 127 00:05:17,708 --> 00:05:20,537 the murdered woman is Barbara Rocky. 128 00:05:21,799 --> 00:05:23,758 Police now face the difficult task 129 00:05:23,758 --> 00:05:25,499 of informing her family. 130 00:05:25,499 --> 00:05:27,152 At the time of Barbara's murder, 131 00:05:27,152 --> 00:05:30,112 my parents were living in California. 132 00:05:30,112 --> 00:05:33,507 My mom found out first from the police, 133 00:05:33,507 --> 00:05:37,075 and was crying, and from then on, 134 00:05:37,075 --> 00:05:39,339 nothing was the same. 135 00:05:40,165 --> 00:05:41,689 It was just 136 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:45,301 the biggest shock you could fathom. 137 00:05:45,301 --> 00:05:47,042 [somber music] 138 00:05:47,042 --> 00:05:52,439 It's like what you knew of the world has just imploded. 139 00:05:53,178 --> 00:05:55,790 [somber music] 140 00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:57,095 [upbeat music] 141 00:05:57,095 --> 00:05:58,401 [Narrator] Born in 1952, 142 00:05:58,401 --> 00:06:00,447 Barbara had an idyllic childhood 143 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:03,275 growing up in Menlo Park, California. 144 00:06:03,275 --> 00:06:04,451 Barbara was very creative. 145 00:06:04,451 --> 00:06:07,497 She was always very theatrical. 146 00:06:07,497 --> 00:06:09,499 I always thought she was a genius 147 00:06:09,499 --> 00:06:12,894 because languages and music 148 00:06:12,894 --> 00:06:15,462 came so easy to her. 149 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:20,336 Barbara was always rooting for the underdog. 150 00:06:20,336 --> 00:06:22,425 If somebody needed help, 151 00:06:22,425 --> 00:06:24,688 she would open doors for them. 152 00:06:24,688 --> 00:06:27,778 I mean, always doing something very sweet. 153 00:06:27,778 --> 00:06:29,432 [upbeat music] 154 00:06:29,432 --> 00:06:31,521 [Narrator] When the time came to go to college, 155 00:06:31,521 --> 00:06:35,525 Barbara's choice reflected a growing spiritual interest. 156 00:06:35,525 --> 00:06:40,748 Barbara was always searching for a religion. 157 00:06:42,053 --> 00:06:43,315 Barbara was interested in the Mormon religion. 158 00:06:43,315 --> 00:06:45,056 My parents were very happy 159 00:06:46,188 --> 00:06:47,363 for her to go to Brigham Young 160 00:06:47,363 --> 00:06:48,495 because they felt that she would 161 00:06:48,495 --> 00:06:50,453 get the safe group of friends 162 00:06:50,453 --> 00:06:52,455 and the good education 163 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:56,198 and religion that she required. 164 00:06:56,198 --> 00:06:58,200 When Barbara went off to college, 165 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,855 she seemed up and happy, and 166 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:04,467 like things were going well. 167 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:07,122 [Narrator] Investigators ask Barbara's loved ones 168 00:07:07,122 --> 00:07:11,039 if they can think of anyone who might be responsible. 169 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:15,870 Since she was away at college and out of our supervision, 170 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:17,785 we had no idea 171 00:07:18,873 --> 00:07:20,483 what she was doing. 172 00:07:20,483 --> 00:07:24,487 We just didn't know what kind of friends she was making. 173 00:07:24,487 --> 00:07:26,184 In speaking with the family, 174 00:07:26,184 --> 00:07:30,188 they just had no idea on who could have done this to her. 175 00:07:30,188 --> 00:07:33,496 [Narrator] With the family unable to provide leads, 176 00:07:33,496 --> 00:07:35,585 detectives hope her college friends 177 00:07:35,585 --> 00:07:37,239 might be able to point them 178 00:07:37,239 --> 00:07:38,893 in the right direction. 179 00:07:38,893 --> 00:07:43,245 Ed Fisher was dating one of Barbara's roommates. 180 00:07:43,245 --> 00:07:45,682 When asked if he had any idea 181 00:07:45,682 --> 00:07:47,858 who would have done this to Barbara, 182 00:07:47,858 --> 00:07:49,425 he just had no idea. 183 00:07:49,425 --> 00:07:50,861 He felt Gerry Hicker might have 184 00:07:50,861 --> 00:07:53,516 more information about Barbara than he would. 185 00:07:53,516 --> 00:07:56,780 Gerry Hicker is also a student at BYU, 186 00:07:56,780 --> 00:08:00,088 and Barbara seemed to spend lots of time with him. 187 00:08:00,088 --> 00:08:03,395 Gerry described that he was just devastated 188 00:08:03,395 --> 00:08:04,701 that this had happened to Barbara. 189 00:08:04,701 --> 00:08:07,051 He knew Barbara very well. 190 00:08:07,051 --> 00:08:09,271 [Narrator] Police ask Gerry what led him 191 00:08:09,271 --> 00:08:11,273 to file a missing person's report 192 00:08:11,273 --> 00:08:15,016 just hours before Barbara was found dead? 193 00:08:15,016 --> 00:08:18,280 He said that he had gone skiing the day before, 194 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,935 used Barbara's car to take the skis back, 195 00:08:20,935 --> 00:08:24,547 and then he met up with Barbara on March 11th 196 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:26,288 at about 10 o'clock in the morning 197 00:08:26,288 --> 00:08:27,985 and gave the car keys back with plans 198 00:08:27,985 --> 00:08:30,553 to meet up later on to go grocery shopping. 199 00:08:30,553 --> 00:08:32,294 After leaving Barbara, 200 00:08:32,294 --> 00:08:34,296 Gerry spoke with one of Barbara's roommates, 201 00:08:34,296 --> 00:08:36,341 and then he went to study at the library. 202 00:08:36,341 --> 00:08:37,473 [dramatic music] 203 00:08:37,473 --> 00:08:39,649 Later that day Gerry and Barbara 204 00:08:39,649 --> 00:08:41,564 had plans to grab some food 205 00:08:41,564 --> 00:08:42,783 but she didn't show up. 206 00:08:42,783 --> 00:08:44,698 As Gerry left the BYU campus, 207 00:08:44,698 --> 00:08:46,569 he walked past Barbara's house 208 00:08:46,569 --> 00:08:48,223 and he didn't see Barbara's car, 209 00:08:48,223 --> 00:08:50,791 so he continued towards his home. 210 00:08:50,791 --> 00:08:54,229 And as he was passing the Park Plaza Apartments, 211 00:08:54,229 --> 00:08:56,797 and sees Barbara's car sitting in the parking lot, 212 00:08:56,797 --> 00:08:59,147 which was someplace that Barbara 213 00:08:59,147 --> 00:09:00,844 would have never parked her car. 214 00:09:01,715 --> 00:09:03,586 He said that was kind of odd 215 00:09:03,586 --> 00:09:04,718 why it would've been parked 216 00:09:04,718 --> 00:09:06,546 where it's not normally parked. 217 00:09:07,372 --> 00:09:09,244 Inside the car he finds 218 00:09:09,244 --> 00:09:12,508 this note that was left by Barbara. 219 00:09:12,508 --> 00:09:14,684 It was addressed to all the roommates. 220 00:09:14,684 --> 00:09:17,600 That basically said that she had found her people. 221 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,603 That she was leaving to go be with her people. 222 00:09:20,603 --> 00:09:22,779 I think that he looked at it as a suicide note, 223 00:09:22,779 --> 00:09:25,608 and so he took the note over to the roommates, 224 00:09:25,608 --> 00:09:27,741 and that raised enough suspicion 225 00:09:27,741 --> 00:09:30,265 to report her as a missing person. 226 00:09:30,265 --> 00:09:31,614 [Narrator] In order to clear Gerry 227 00:09:31,614 --> 00:09:33,355 as a person of interest, 228 00:09:33,355 --> 00:09:35,879 detectives drill deeper into his timeline. 229 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:40,536 Gerry gave his timeline up until that evening, 230 00:09:40,536 --> 00:09:42,625 and essentially once he found that letter, 231 00:09:42,625 --> 00:09:44,148 he came and talked to us. 232 00:09:44,148 --> 00:09:45,933 Gerry reported her missing. 233 00:09:45,933 --> 00:09:47,412 He found the note. 234 00:09:47,412 --> 00:09:49,458 He was cooperating with detectives, 235 00:09:49,458 --> 00:09:51,025 so he really wasn't somebody 236 00:09:51,025 --> 00:09:52,679 that fit as a suspect. 237 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,550 [Narrator] When detectives ask Gerry 238 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:57,553 about any conflicts Barbara may have had, 239 00:09:57,553 --> 00:10:00,687 he mentions one unexpected source. 240 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:02,558 Gerry tells investigators that 241 00:10:02,558 --> 00:10:04,952 the roommates and Barbara kind of have 242 00:10:06,562 --> 00:10:09,130 an off-again on-again relationship. 243 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:12,089 Barbara Jean Rocky lived with seven other women 244 00:10:12,089 --> 00:10:13,787 from Mormon families. 245 00:10:13,787 --> 00:10:16,790 Barbara sometimes liked to do things for shock value, 246 00:10:16,790 --> 00:10:19,662 and this is not a place people go to 247 00:10:19,662 --> 00:10:21,403 to shock others. 248 00:10:21,403 --> 00:10:23,579 There was a little bit of intimidation 249 00:10:23,579 --> 00:10:25,712 between Barbara and some of the girls. 250 00:10:25,712 --> 00:10:28,062 Gerry said things had gotten so bad, 251 00:10:28,062 --> 00:10:30,673 that he had tried to find Barbara 252 00:10:30,673 --> 00:10:32,327 another place to live. 253 00:10:32,327 --> 00:10:34,808 [Narrator] Was it possible one of Barbara's roommates 254 00:10:34,808 --> 00:10:37,375 could be the culprit behind her death? 255 00:10:37,375 --> 00:10:39,639 Just how bad was this relationship 256 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,424 that Barbara Jean Rocky had with her roommates, 257 00:10:42,424 --> 00:10:44,992 and what could it cause anyone to do? 258 00:10:44,992 --> 00:10:46,689 [foreboding music] 259 00:10:46,689 --> 00:10:47,777 [Narrator] Coming up 260 00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:50,693 detectives uncover dark secrets. 261 00:10:50,693 --> 00:10:52,303 The majority of the roommates 262 00:10:52,303 --> 00:10:54,654 were very religious. 263 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:57,439 He had a relationship with Barbara Jean 264 00:10:57,439 --> 00:11:01,138 and had been dating one of her roommates. 265 00:11:01,138 --> 00:11:03,880 A love triangle could easily turn deadly 266 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,752 when there's jealousy involved. 267 00:11:05,752 --> 00:11:07,536 He had pulled a dagger on her 268 00:11:07,536 --> 00:11:09,277 and said that he was going to stab her. 269 00:11:09,277 --> 00:11:12,454 [Narrator] And links to a terrifying killer. 270 00:11:12,454 --> 00:11:14,848 She described him as a great warlock 271 00:11:14,848 --> 00:11:17,589 and maybe even a devil worshiper. 272 00:11:17,589 --> 00:11:19,853 There's women all over the American West 273 00:11:19,853 --> 00:11:23,160 that are going missing and being discovered dead. 274 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,642 This guy turns out to be probably the most famous 275 00:11:26,642 --> 00:11:29,297 notorious serial killer of all time. 276 00:11:29,297 --> 00:11:32,648 [Narrator] Until the evidence reveals the horrific truth. 277 00:11:32,648 --> 00:11:34,955 He was not who we suspected, 278 00:11:34,955 --> 00:11:37,392 and so to learn that he was responsible 279 00:11:37,392 --> 00:11:40,438 for killing her was very surprising. 280 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:44,704 [dramatic music] 281 00:11:49,534 --> 00:11:52,624 [Narrator] After 22-year-old college student Barbara Rocky 282 00:11:52,624 --> 00:11:55,627 is found shot dead, police have discovered 283 00:11:55,627 --> 00:11:57,629 she had clashed with her roommates 284 00:11:57,629 --> 00:11:59,936 and bring them in separately for questioning. 285 00:11:59,936 --> 00:12:02,678 The roommates had only known her since January, 286 00:12:02,678 --> 00:12:05,899 when Barbara moved into the house, and going to 287 00:12:05,899 --> 00:12:09,032 a predominantly Mormon school, 288 00:12:09,032 --> 00:12:10,773 Barbara really didn't fit that mold. 289 00:12:10,773 --> 00:12:12,470 She was from California, 290 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:14,646 and she was more of a free spirit. 291 00:12:14,646 --> 00:12:17,475 She was somebody who was very opinionated 292 00:12:17,475 --> 00:12:19,477 and was not a conformist. 293 00:12:19,477 --> 00:12:20,783 Barbara Jean Rocky's roommates 294 00:12:20,783 --> 00:12:22,654 say that she was kind of dating around, 295 00:12:22,654 --> 00:12:24,874 not necessarily saving herself for marriage, 296 00:12:24,874 --> 00:12:27,529 and it was generally not accepted. 297 00:12:27,529 --> 00:12:29,879 The roommates were very religious. 298 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:31,925 They attended church faithfully. 299 00:12:31,925 --> 00:12:34,014 I think Barbara would probably experiment 300 00:12:34,014 --> 00:12:38,409 with different religions just to expand her knowledge 301 00:12:38,409 --> 00:12:42,762 and at times would do things that would maybe scare them. 302 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:44,502 Barbara Jean's roommates 303 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:46,809 said she was kind of into witchcraft, 304 00:12:46,809 --> 00:12:52,032 so she was attracted to that lifestyle a little bit. 305 00:12:53,729 --> 00:12:55,035 They didn't want to be a part of Barbara's life, 306 00:12:55,035 --> 00:12:57,080 and so they would keep her at arm's length. 307 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,995 [Narrator] Had one of Barbara's roommates 308 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:02,520 lashed out and done something unthinkable? 309 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,787 Being more of the typical LDS BYU student, 310 00:13:08,962 --> 00:13:10,615 you just wouldn't think that somebody like that 311 00:13:10,615 --> 00:13:11,965 could kill somebody, 312 00:13:11,965 --> 00:13:14,619 but until you do the leather work on it, 313 00:13:14,619 --> 00:13:16,012 you can't clear them. 314 00:13:16,012 --> 00:13:17,318 [Narrator] Detectives work 315 00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:19,842 to verify the roommates' alibis. 316 00:13:20,843 --> 00:13:22,323 Once the investigators corroborated 317 00:13:22,323 --> 00:13:24,064 all the stories and looked at the timelines, 318 00:13:24,064 --> 00:13:26,849 they were able to clear the roommates as not being 319 00:13:26,849 --> 00:13:28,938 somebody that had killed Barbara. 320 00:13:28,938 --> 00:13:30,810 [Narrator] As detectives continue 321 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,855 asking the roommates about Barbara, 322 00:13:32,855 --> 00:13:35,945 they learn some startling new information. 323 00:13:35,945 --> 00:13:38,774 Investigators found out through the interviews 324 00:13:38,774 --> 00:13:40,123 of the roommates that Barbara 325 00:13:40,123 --> 00:13:43,866 would carry a 357 revolver pistol. 326 00:13:43,866 --> 00:13:45,868 Some of the roommates described Barbara 327 00:13:45,868 --> 00:13:48,479 as being maybe a little bit paranoid 328 00:13:48,479 --> 00:13:52,570 where she would think people were following her. 329 00:13:52,570 --> 00:13:55,051 In 1974, people weren't just walking 330 00:13:55,051 --> 00:13:57,575 around with guns the way they do today, 331 00:13:57,575 --> 00:13:59,577 so if a 21-year-old college kid 332 00:13:59,577 --> 00:14:02,754 was walking around with a 357 magnum pistol, 333 00:14:02,754 --> 00:14:04,582 who is she afraid of? 334 00:14:04,582 --> 00:14:06,628 [Narrator] Detectives get more surprises 335 00:14:06,628 --> 00:14:08,891 when they search Barbara's vehicle. 336 00:14:08,891 --> 00:14:11,589 When the investigators looked in the rear of the vehicle, 337 00:14:11,589 --> 00:14:13,853 they found ammunition and targets, 338 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:15,376 things that you wouldn't expect 339 00:14:15,376 --> 00:14:19,032 in a female BYU student's car. 340 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:20,903 Did Barbara feel like 341 00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:21,991 she needed to have a gun? 342 00:14:21,991 --> 00:14:23,906 Did she practice with the gun? 343 00:14:23,906 --> 00:14:25,865 Was somebody after her? 344 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:29,172 We weren't sure what all of that meant at that point. 345 00:14:29,172 --> 00:14:30,043 [dramatic music] 346 00:14:30,043 --> 00:14:31,392 The car was fingerprinted, 347 00:14:31,392 --> 00:14:32,784 but there was just nothing 348 00:14:32,784 --> 00:14:34,786 of good forensic value 349 00:14:34,786 --> 00:14:37,746 that we could come up with at that time. 350 00:14:37,746 --> 00:14:39,791 [Narrator] With more questions than answers, 351 00:14:39,791 --> 00:14:41,706 detectives turn their attention 352 00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:43,926 back to the note Barbara's friend Gerry 353 00:14:43,926 --> 00:14:46,842 had found earlier in Barbara's car. 354 00:14:47,974 --> 00:14:49,845 You found a victim shot multiple times, 355 00:14:49,845 --> 00:14:53,196 and then someone else finds this note in her car 356 00:14:53,196 --> 00:14:55,982 that says she's leaving to be with her people, 357 00:14:55,982 --> 00:14:58,114 and what's the purpose of this? 358 00:14:58,114 --> 00:14:59,942 The investigators were wondering 359 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:02,162 if the note was even authored by Barbara, 360 00:15:02,162 --> 00:15:04,207 so they do some handwriting analysis on it 361 00:15:04,207 --> 00:15:06,470 and send it out to have that done. 362 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:08,908 [Narrator] While detectives await results, 363 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:11,127 the autopsy report comes in. 364 00:15:11,127 --> 00:15:12,694 At that time they came up with 365 00:15:12,694 --> 00:15:15,566 six bullet hole entrance wounds. 366 00:15:15,566 --> 00:15:17,351 The shot in the arm was probably 367 00:15:17,351 --> 00:15:20,267 the bullet that killed her 368 00:15:20,267 --> 00:15:22,138 because it went back into the chest 369 00:15:22,138 --> 00:15:23,879 and hit some vital organs, 370 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:26,838 and the final wounds were 371 00:15:26,838 --> 00:15:29,667 when Barbara was turned over and on her stomach 372 00:15:29,667 --> 00:15:31,887 and the entrance wounds were in her back. 373 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:34,150 Being shot in the back is a good indicator that 374 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:37,023 the person is known by the assailant. 375 00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:39,329 He doesn't want to see their face 376 00:15:39,329 --> 00:15:40,287 when he kills them. 377 00:15:40,287 --> 00:15:42,158 [dramatic music] 378 00:15:42,158 --> 00:15:46,119 At the autopsy the medical examiner took swabs 379 00:15:46,119 --> 00:15:49,470 of both her rectum and her vaginal area 380 00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:50,993 to try to preserve any evidence 381 00:15:50,993 --> 00:15:52,125 that might be there. 382 00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:54,997 The autopsy report indicated 383 00:15:54,997 --> 00:15:56,738 no definitive evidence 384 00:15:56,738 --> 00:15:58,000 that she had been sexually assaulted. 385 00:15:59,436 --> 00:16:01,743 [Narrator] With the autopsy offering no new leads, 386 00:16:01,743 --> 00:16:03,701 investigators turn their focus 387 00:16:03,701 --> 00:16:05,703 to any romantic relationships 388 00:16:05,703 --> 00:16:07,879 Barbara may have had. 389 00:16:07,879 --> 00:16:09,577 They were talking with the roommates 390 00:16:09,577 --> 00:16:13,494 more about other men that may be in Barbara's life, 391 00:16:13,494 --> 00:16:17,846 and they came up with a guy named Richard. 392 00:16:17,846 --> 00:16:18,890 They knew that Barbara was 393 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:20,892 very much infatuated with him. 394 00:16:20,892 --> 00:16:22,720 She spoke about him all the time, 395 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,158 even called him her boyfriend. 396 00:16:25,158 --> 00:16:27,725 [Narrator] As police focus on Richard 397 00:16:27,725 --> 00:16:30,032 they make a disturbing discovery. 398 00:16:30,859 --> 00:16:32,121 They had asked if Richard 399 00:16:32,121 --> 00:16:34,819 had ever been violent towards Barbara, 400 00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:37,213 and Barbara had relayed one story that 401 00:16:37,213 --> 00:16:39,041 Richard had pulled a dagger on her 402 00:16:39,041 --> 00:16:41,130 and said he was going to stab her. 403 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:43,524 [Narrator] This was not the only alarming story 404 00:16:43,524 --> 00:16:46,788 Barbara's roommates relayed to detectives. 405 00:16:46,788 --> 00:16:49,921 About a month before Barbara was murdered, 406 00:16:49,921 --> 00:16:51,836 she reported that her gun was missing, 407 00:16:51,836 --> 00:16:53,925 and that raises all kinds of concerns. 408 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:56,058 She reported it to campus police, 409 00:16:56,058 --> 00:16:58,060 and to my knowledge, 410 00:16:58,060 --> 00:16:59,844 she never got that gun back. 411 00:16:59,844 --> 00:17:03,805 A 357 revolver would have fit 412 00:17:03,805 --> 00:17:06,068 with the potential murder weapon 413 00:17:06,068 --> 00:17:07,852 that killed Barbara. 414 00:17:07,852 --> 00:17:08,940 [gunfire blasting] She had expressed 415 00:17:08,940 --> 00:17:10,942 concern to her roommates that 416 00:17:10,942 --> 00:17:12,466 the person that had taken the gun 417 00:17:12,466 --> 00:17:14,250 may use that gun on her, 418 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:16,252 and the roommates just kind of dismissed it. 419 00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:19,168 But now that Barbara was found shot to death, 420 00:17:19,168 --> 00:17:22,737 the roommates were concerned for themselves as well. 421 00:17:22,737 --> 00:17:24,956 Having that information, 422 00:17:24,956 --> 00:17:26,784 the investigators really 423 00:17:26,784 --> 00:17:28,612 wanted to find out who Richard was. 424 00:17:28,612 --> 00:17:32,964 At this point all we have is Richard's first name. 425 00:17:32,964 --> 00:17:36,055 He's willing to maybe take a dagger and stab her. 426 00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:38,013 [suspenseful music] 427 00:17:38,013 --> 00:17:40,450 We strongly felt that he could have been responsible 428 00:17:40,450 --> 00:17:41,364 for her murder. 429 00:17:43,018 --> 00:17:46,021 [dramatic music] 430 00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,287 [Narrator] Three days have passed 431 00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:52,897 since student Barbara Rocky 432 00:17:52,897 --> 00:17:54,856 was discovered shot dead 433 00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,901 in Big Cottonwood Canyon, 434 00:17:56,901 --> 00:17:59,121 and police are hunting a man named Richard, 435 00:17:59,121 --> 00:18:01,993 who they believe is her boyfriend. 436 00:18:01,993 --> 00:18:03,995 This could be the person that killed Barbara. 437 00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:07,390 But all we have is Richard's first name, 438 00:18:07,390 --> 00:18:11,133 and so we're kind of running into a dead end. 439 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:12,917 [Narrator] With no way to identify 440 00:18:12,917 --> 00:18:15,050 their potential prime suspect, 441 00:18:15,050 --> 00:18:17,270 detectives catch a lucky break. 442 00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:20,316 Out of the blue a guy named Richard Finder 443 00:18:20,316 --> 00:18:22,623 calls into our department 444 00:18:22,623 --> 00:18:26,931 and tells us that he knew Barbara Rocky. 445 00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:29,151 Richard Finder initiated contact 446 00:18:29,151 --> 00:18:32,111 offering his services to basically 447 00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,983 try to help them solve this case. 448 00:18:34,983 --> 00:18:37,638 First question we had was is this the Richard 449 00:18:37,638 --> 00:18:38,900 that we've been looking for? 450 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:40,075 [dramatic music] 451 00:18:40,075 --> 00:18:41,337 [Narrator] As investigators 452 00:18:41,337 --> 00:18:43,209 prepare to meet with Richard Finder, 453 00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:46,081 they learn everything they can about him. 454 00:18:46,081 --> 00:18:48,388 We find out that he's in his 30s, 455 00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:51,086 and he's a self-proclaimed psychic. 456 00:18:51,086 --> 00:18:52,218 He lived in California. 457 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:54,176 Barbara was from California, 458 00:18:54,176 --> 00:18:57,223 so that was one of the connections that they had. 459 00:18:57,223 --> 00:19:01,357 We also found out that a 357 pistol 460 00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:03,185 was registered to him, 461 00:19:03,185 --> 00:19:06,406 which is obviously the same caliber that we're looking for. 462 00:19:06,406 --> 00:19:09,452 [Narrator] Richard Finder arrives at the sheriff's office 463 00:19:09,452 --> 00:19:13,239 and detectives begin by asking him about his relationship 464 00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:15,458 with the 22-year-old college student. 465 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:17,330 Barbara heard Richard Finder 466 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:19,941 on the radio talking about the occult. 467 00:19:19,941 --> 00:19:23,249 Barbara had called into the radio station. 468 00:19:23,249 --> 00:19:25,425 They ended up exchanging phone numbers. 469 00:19:25,425 --> 00:19:29,385 Barbara had gone up to see him at his hotel, 470 00:19:29,385 --> 00:19:31,431 and I think Barbara at one point, 471 00:19:31,431 --> 00:19:34,869 even felt that Richard was her boyfriend. 472 00:19:34,869 --> 00:19:38,351 Richard claimed that it was just a spiritual relationship. 473 00:19:38,351 --> 00:19:43,617 That he looked at Barbara not in a physical way. 474 00:19:45,096 --> 00:19:46,097 [Narrator] Under further questioning, 475 00:19:46,097 --> 00:19:47,403 Richard mentions something 476 00:19:47,403 --> 00:19:49,275 that gets the detectives' attention. 477 00:19:49,275 --> 00:19:51,277 The place that he was staying at 478 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:55,281 was very close to the mouth of the canyon 479 00:19:55,281 --> 00:19:57,457 where it was that Barbara Jean was found. 480 00:19:57,457 --> 00:19:58,588 [dramatic music] 481 00:19:58,588 --> 00:20:00,242 [Narrator] Detectives cut to the chase 482 00:20:00,242 --> 00:20:03,027 and ask Richard where he was on March 11th, 483 00:20:03,027 --> 00:20:05,160 the day that Barbara was killed. 484 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,467 He tells them that he was in Salt Lake 485 00:20:07,467 --> 00:20:09,382 at the time of the murder. 486 00:20:09,382 --> 00:20:11,166 He said that he had gotten up and had some breakfast, 487 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:12,950 and then he went over and helped a friend 488 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:16,345 do some construction work on a house all day long, 489 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:17,433 and then he went back home 490 00:20:17,433 --> 00:20:20,306 and went to sleep on the couch. 491 00:20:20,306 --> 00:20:22,090 [Narrator] Detectives set to work 492 00:20:22,090 --> 00:20:24,223 checking out Richard's alibi. 493 00:20:25,311 --> 00:20:26,964 The guy that Richard Finder was staying with, 494 00:20:26,964 --> 00:20:31,186 did confirm that Richard was with him in the evening. 495 00:20:31,186 --> 00:20:32,840 But he could not confirm the times 496 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,277 that Richard told us about during the daytime. 497 00:20:35,277 --> 00:20:37,279 [Narrator] With holes in Richard's alibi, 498 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:39,455 detectives dig deeper into his claims 499 00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:42,197 about his relationship with Barbara. 500 00:20:42,197 --> 00:20:45,331 Our investigators talked to Barbara's therapist, 501 00:20:45,331 --> 00:20:48,116 and she just really got the impression 502 00:20:48,116 --> 00:20:50,510 that Barbara was in love with Richard. 503 00:20:50,510 --> 00:20:53,034 [Narrator] The therapist reveals another way 504 00:20:53,034 --> 00:20:55,166 the relationship was less innocent 505 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:56,733 than Richard made it seem. 506 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,346 Barbara described Richard as a great warlock 507 00:21:00,346 --> 00:21:02,826 and maybe even a devil worshiper. 508 00:21:02,826 --> 00:21:04,480 [tense dramatic music] 509 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,570 I think that the satanic and the witchcraft, 510 00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:09,311 it's not too far-fetched to think, 511 00:21:09,311 --> 00:21:11,444 "Okay, somebody took her up there into the woods. 512 00:21:11,444 --> 00:21:14,055 "This was potentially a sacrifice." 513 00:21:14,055 --> 00:21:15,709 [Narrator] When police confront Richard 514 00:21:15,709 --> 00:21:17,232 with these allegations, 515 00:21:17,232 --> 00:21:19,582 his response is even more alarming. 516 00:21:19,582 --> 00:21:21,889 He's telling us that he's having these dreams, 517 00:21:21,889 --> 00:21:25,327 and that she was shot in the back in a triangular pattern, 518 00:21:25,327 --> 00:21:30,593 and that that's a sign of a possible Satan killing 519 00:21:31,377 --> 00:21:33,030 or devil worship. 520 00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:35,642 Richard also told us that he had a vision 521 00:21:35,642 --> 00:21:38,558 that the murder weapon was also thrown into water. 522 00:21:38,558 --> 00:21:41,343 How would he know that we didn't have the murder weapon? 523 00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:44,390 So that really raised a question to us. 524 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:47,131 We're wondering is this guy confessing to us? 525 00:21:47,131 --> 00:21:49,351 Is he telling us about our crime scene? 526 00:21:49,351 --> 00:21:50,918 He has all of this knowledge. 527 00:21:50,918 --> 00:21:53,921 Is this guy the one that killed Barbara that day? 528 00:21:53,921 --> 00:21:56,358 When you start putting all of these things together, 529 00:21:56,358 --> 00:21:59,318 it made Richard Finder a pretty good suspect. 530 00:21:59,318 --> 00:22:01,450 [Narrator] Despite the circumstantial evidence 531 00:22:01,450 --> 00:22:03,278 stacking up against him, 532 00:22:03,278 --> 00:22:05,933 detectives need something more concrete. 533 00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:08,631 So we collect all of his weapons for ballistic tests 534 00:22:08,631 --> 00:22:12,418 with the projectiles that we located from Barbara's body. 535 00:22:12,418 --> 00:22:15,551 We received the results from the ballistics tests, 536 00:22:15,551 --> 00:22:16,900 and they were not a match, 537 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:18,293 [dramatic music] 538 00:22:18,293 --> 00:22:19,555 and that pretty much blew up 539 00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:21,818 most of our case with Richard Finder. 540 00:22:23,603 --> 00:22:25,387 [Narrator] Detectives pin their hopes 541 00:22:25,387 --> 00:22:28,129 on the results of the handwriting analysis 542 00:22:28,129 --> 00:22:30,566 on the note found in Barbara's vehicle. 543 00:22:31,654 --> 00:22:34,440 Maybe she wrote the note under duress. 544 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,572 Maybe she was forced to write the note. 545 00:22:36,572 --> 00:22:38,313 It could be a significant clue, 546 00:22:38,313 --> 00:22:39,575 especially if it's determined that 547 00:22:39,575 --> 00:22:41,534 our victim didn't author the note. 548 00:22:41,534 --> 00:22:44,450 It's like someone writing a suicide note for someone else. 549 00:22:44,450 --> 00:22:46,321 The handwriting analysis came back, 550 00:22:46,321 --> 00:22:48,149 and it showed that Barbara was the one 551 00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:49,368 that had written the note. 552 00:22:49,368 --> 00:22:50,673 The letter itself seemed 553 00:22:50,673 --> 00:22:52,588 to be a valid letter to her friends, 554 00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:55,461 and several people said that's Barbara's handwriting. 555 00:22:55,461 --> 00:22:58,420 The investigators concluded that maybe 556 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:00,335 Barbara was thinking about moving home, 557 00:23:00,335 --> 00:23:02,816 and she was just explaining that in the note. 558 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:07,647 At this point we're starting to run out of leads. 559 00:23:07,647 --> 00:23:09,997 [Narrator] As the investigation stalls, 560 00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:13,566 Barbara's family is rocked by another tragedy. 561 00:23:15,045 --> 00:23:18,484 My dad would call the police practically every day, 562 00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:21,138 when nothing was coming to fruition, 563 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:26,230 and he died like within a year after she died. 564 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:27,449 It killed my father, 565 00:23:27,449 --> 00:23:29,495 [somber music] 566 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:33,760 and we had so many key relatives die 567 00:23:35,457 --> 00:23:37,894 still wanting to know what happened to Barbara. 568 00:23:39,548 --> 00:23:42,333 [Narrator] Detectives never give up on the case, 569 00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:45,206 and a year later in 1975, 570 00:23:45,206 --> 00:23:48,601 they notice a disturbing pattern of crimes. 571 00:23:48,601 --> 00:23:51,255 There's women all over the American West 572 00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:52,431 that are going missing 573 00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:54,433 and being discovered dead. 574 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:57,523 College coeds with dark hair were found murdered, 575 00:23:57,523 --> 00:23:59,655 and the serial killer was certainly 576 00:23:59,655 --> 00:24:02,223 the big topic of conversation. 577 00:24:02,223 --> 00:24:03,529 [Narrator] A surprising arrest 578 00:24:03,529 --> 00:24:06,488 changes the whole course of the investigation. 579 00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:10,231 In 1975, a Utah state trooper 580 00:24:10,231 --> 00:24:12,712 makes an arrest west of Salt Lake city. 581 00:24:12,712 --> 00:24:16,629 The suspect was arrested for a kidnapping case 582 00:24:16,629 --> 00:24:18,674 and some of the evidence in the vehicle 583 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,546 definitely could have had something to do 584 00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:22,504 with Barbara's murder as well. 585 00:24:22,504 --> 00:24:25,420 The driver's name is Ted Bundy. 586 00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:29,250 This guy turns out to be probably the most famous 587 00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:32,253 notorious serial killer of all time. 588 00:24:32,253 --> 00:24:33,950 Is he the one that killed Barbara? 589 00:24:34,777 --> 00:24:37,650 [dramatic music] 590 00:24:42,045 --> 00:24:43,612 [Narrator] A year and a half 591 00:24:43,612 --> 00:24:45,571 after the murder of Barbara Rocky, 592 00:24:45,571 --> 00:24:48,530 the investigation is sparked back into life 593 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:52,360 by the arrest of notorious serial killer Ted Bundy. 594 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,101 [dramatic music] 595 00:24:54,101 --> 00:24:56,495 More and more that police start investigating Ted Bundy, 596 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,540 the more connections they find to missing 597 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:00,716 and murdered women all over the country. 598 00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:05,504 In 1974, Ted Bundy was also in the Utah area, 599 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:07,680 going to school at the University of Utah. 600 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,725 Barbara Jean fit Ted Bundy's profile. 601 00:25:09,725 --> 00:25:11,379 She was a college student. 602 00:25:11,379 --> 00:25:13,033 She was a brunette, 603 00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:16,340 and she was the age that Ted Bundy seemed to target. 604 00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:17,516 Ted Bundy had a reputation 605 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:18,778 of being a very charming man. 606 00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:20,344 You know, he was a good looking guy 607 00:25:20,344 --> 00:25:22,651 and was kind of a smooth talker. 608 00:25:22,651 --> 00:25:24,610 Ted bundy would act like he was hurt 609 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:28,614 and ask for some assistance from a female, 610 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:30,398 and that would have fit right 611 00:25:30,398 --> 00:25:31,791 with the personality of Barbara. 612 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:34,141 She would have helped Ted Bundy 613 00:25:34,141 --> 00:25:36,665 if he had approached her. 614 00:25:36,665 --> 00:25:37,753 [Narrator] With Barbara fitting 615 00:25:37,753 --> 00:25:40,277 the profile of bundy's victims, 616 00:25:40,277 --> 00:25:42,845 detectives connect with the FBI. 617 00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:46,632 The investigators were able to get a hold of a timeline 618 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,591 that the FBI had prepared to find out 619 00:25:49,591 --> 00:25:53,334 what his whereabouts were on March 11, 1974. 620 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:57,207 When the investigators looked at Ted Bundy's timeline, 621 00:25:57,207 --> 00:26:00,820 they found that he had an ironclad alibi for that day 622 00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:04,084 because he was in Washington committing another murder. 623 00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:07,783 [Narrator] With Bundy cleared, 624 00:26:07,783 --> 00:26:10,177 the Barbara Rocky investigation 625 00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:11,657 grinds to a halt. 626 00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:12,962 The investigators had done 627 00:26:12,962 --> 00:26:15,530 everything forensically that they could. 628 00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:17,837 They had done all the interviews that they could. 629 00:26:17,837 --> 00:26:20,491 They had looked at all the suspects that they could, 630 00:26:20,491 --> 00:26:22,711 and the case just went cold. 631 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:25,366 Once the case was cold, 632 00:26:25,366 --> 00:26:28,543 we pretty much accepted that 633 00:26:28,543 --> 00:26:30,545 it was not going to be solved. 634 00:26:30,545 --> 00:26:31,764 When a case goes cold, 635 00:26:31,764 --> 00:26:33,679 it definitely affects the family, 636 00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,463 every bit as much, if not more, 637 00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:36,812 than the investigator. 638 00:26:36,812 --> 00:26:39,641 They just want someone to be held accountable 639 00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:42,296 for their daughter's death. 640 00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:45,604 [Narrator] The case lies unsolved for 30 years 641 00:26:45,604 --> 00:26:48,737 while Barbara's family yearns for answers. 642 00:26:48,737 --> 00:26:51,566 The hope and the drive 643 00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:53,699 to crack this case someday 644 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:58,660 was powered by losing so many family members 645 00:26:58,660 --> 00:27:01,445 that were enraged and wanted justice. 646 00:27:01,445 --> 00:27:05,624 So we had nothing to lose by trying. 647 00:27:05,624 --> 00:27:07,451 [Narrator] In 2005, 648 00:27:07,451 --> 00:27:08,627 Barbara's loved ones 649 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:11,760 make one last push for justice. 650 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,501 I asked mom, I said, 651 00:27:13,501 --> 00:27:14,720 "Do you want me to try to open this," 652 00:27:16,243 --> 00:27:19,638 and she said, "Yes, because I need to know before I die." 653 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,249 I was a fairly new homicide detective, 654 00:27:22,249 --> 00:27:24,251 and my phone rang, 655 00:27:24,251 --> 00:27:27,515 and it was one of the family members saying, 656 00:27:27,515 --> 00:27:30,649 "Hey, my sister was killed back in 1974. 657 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:31,954 "Our mom's getting up in years, 658 00:27:31,954 --> 00:27:34,261 "and she'd really like to know 659 00:27:34,261 --> 00:27:36,002 "who killed her daughter." 660 00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:38,613 The family would expect us to just 661 00:27:38,613 --> 00:27:40,789 do what needs to be done to solve their case, 662 00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:45,446 and you can't put a price tag on this level of justice. 663 00:27:45,446 --> 00:27:48,492 [Narrator] Digging into the 30-year-old case files, 664 00:27:48,492 --> 00:27:49,972 detectives' attention is drawn 665 00:27:49,972 --> 00:27:52,671 to one suspect in particular, 666 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:56,022 the self-proclaimed psychic, Richard Finder. 667 00:27:57,284 --> 00:28:01,331 I was not convinced that law enforcement 668 00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:06,772 had closed the door all the way on Richard Finder. 669 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:09,688 I wanted to look into Richard further, 670 00:28:10,819 --> 00:28:13,996 because the timeline to me wasn't rock solid, 671 00:28:13,996 --> 00:28:15,694 and I wanted to try to look more 672 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,913 into the forensic end of it. 673 00:28:17,913 --> 00:28:20,524 DNA and the ballistics stuff 674 00:28:20,524 --> 00:28:24,877 has come a long way since 1974. 675 00:28:24,877 --> 00:28:26,922 As I'm looking through each piece of evidence, 676 00:28:26,922 --> 00:28:29,098 I'm trying to figure out if that would have 677 00:28:29,098 --> 00:28:33,363 any forensic benefit to having tested. 678 00:28:33,363 --> 00:28:35,757 [Narrator] While evidence from the original crime scene 679 00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,498 is sent to the crime lab, 680 00:28:37,498 --> 00:28:41,632 investigators dig deeper into Richard's version of events. 681 00:28:41,632 --> 00:28:44,766 As I started looking at Richard's alibi, 682 00:28:45,941 --> 00:28:47,813 I spoke with some of the same people 683 00:28:47,813 --> 00:28:50,554 that the investigators had spoke with previously. 684 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:51,860 As we re-investigated 685 00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:53,732 and re-interviewed these people, 686 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:57,083 information that wasn't known back then was revealed. 687 00:28:57,083 --> 00:29:01,957 What I learned was that Richard had been dating 688 00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:04,873 and seeing a friend of Barbara's, Janelle. 689 00:29:04,873 --> 00:29:08,790 But then Barbara also found that Janelle 690 00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:12,751 was getting closer to Richard Finder than Barbara was, 691 00:29:12,751 --> 00:29:14,013 and there was some animosity 692 00:29:14,013 --> 00:29:15,754 from what I understand regarding that. 693 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:19,409 I learned that sometime very close 694 00:29:19,409 --> 00:29:23,065 to the murder Richard had left town with Janelle Bock, 695 00:29:23,065 --> 00:29:27,156 and Richard and Janelle became boyfriend and girlfriend. 696 00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,768 That was kind of a blow to Barbara. 697 00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,857 That really kind of stuck out to me. 698 00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:35,774 Janelle came back to Salt Lake 699 00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,601 for three or four days around the time 700 00:29:37,601 --> 00:29:40,604 of the homicide with Richard Finder, 701 00:29:40,604 --> 00:29:42,737 and they were staying at a house 702 00:29:42,737 --> 00:29:45,609 just west of the mouth of the canyon 703 00:29:45,609 --> 00:29:47,350 where Barbara was found. 704 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:50,092 [Narrator] Had Barbara confronted Richard about Janelle, 705 00:29:50,092 --> 00:29:52,921 only for the encounter to turn fatal? 706 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,794 Because of this relationship 707 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,752 between Janelle and Barbara, 708 00:29:57,752 --> 00:30:01,887 and because Richard Finder supposedly had guns, 709 00:30:01,887 --> 00:30:04,150 and then because of his witchcraft 710 00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:07,806 and the possibility of human sacrifice, 711 00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:09,111 Richard Finder was up there 712 00:30:09,111 --> 00:30:11,070 on the list as a potential suspect. 713 00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:13,550 [Narrator] Investigators try to bring Richard in 714 00:30:13,550 --> 00:30:15,204 for another interview. 715 00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:17,641 Unfortunately, we found that Richard Finder 716 00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:18,817 had passed away. 717 00:30:19,948 --> 00:30:21,863 But really the only avenue I had 718 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:24,474 was to go talk with Janelle. 719 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:26,868 [Narrator] Was Janelle the only living person 720 00:30:26,868 --> 00:30:29,479 who knew what really happened to Barbara? 721 00:30:29,479 --> 00:30:33,092 I didn't see any information in the case file 722 00:30:33,092 --> 00:30:34,876 where Janelle Bock had really given 723 00:30:34,876 --> 00:30:38,445 a good interview about Richard Finder, and 724 00:30:38,445 --> 00:30:41,709 so that was the place that I wanted to start. 725 00:30:41,709 --> 00:30:43,058 Barbara was upset that 726 00:30:44,103 --> 00:30:45,974 Janelle had essentially taken Richard Finder, 727 00:30:45,974 --> 00:30:47,106 so when they came back, 728 00:30:47,106 --> 00:30:48,890 there's this potential triangle 729 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:50,936 and some jealousy. 730 00:30:50,936 --> 00:30:53,199 It placed some suspicion on Janelle. 731 00:30:53,199 --> 00:30:55,070 Any time an investigation reveals 732 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:57,116 some sort of a love triangle, 733 00:30:57,116 --> 00:30:58,900 that can easily turn deadly 734 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,467 when there's jealousy involved, 735 00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:03,035 and all of a sudden the whole thing shifts 736 00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:05,733 from one guy to the person that's least suspected. 737 00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:08,649 [dramatic music] 738 00:31:14,307 --> 00:31:15,961 [Narrator] Three decades after Barbara Rockyic] 739 00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:18,920 was found murdered in a Utah canyon, 740 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,791 cold case detectives want to speak 741 00:31:20,791 --> 00:31:23,185 to Barbara's former roommate Janelle, 742 00:31:23,185 --> 00:31:25,274 who had been dating Richard Finder, 743 00:31:25,274 --> 00:31:28,799 the psychic Barbara had fallen in love with. 744 00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:30,192 Janelle was looked at because 745 00:31:30,192 --> 00:31:33,804 of this triangle and this dispute, and 746 00:31:33,804 --> 00:31:36,155 Richard Finder was aware 747 00:31:36,155 --> 00:31:38,897 that there was this jealousy. 748 00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:40,159 [Narrator] Detectives want to know 749 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,117 if either Richard or Janelle 750 00:31:42,117 --> 00:31:44,990 had the opportunity to kill Barbara. 751 00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:47,818 They were back in Salt Lake 752 00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:50,125 for three or four days on a ski trip 753 00:31:50,125 --> 00:31:52,040 during the time of Barbara's demise, 754 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,302 but they never went skiing, 755 00:31:53,302 --> 00:31:55,957 and they were staying at a place 756 00:31:55,957 --> 00:31:58,220 that was close to the crime scene 757 00:31:58,220 --> 00:31:59,961 where Barbara was found. 758 00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:01,484 Janelle was able to give me 759 00:32:01,484 --> 00:32:05,010 a timeline that she was with Richard that day, 760 00:32:06,141 --> 00:32:07,969 and the hours that she wasn't coincided 761 00:32:07,969 --> 00:32:11,146 with the times from the initial investigation. 762 00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:12,669 It was confirmed with others 763 00:32:12,669 --> 00:32:14,845 that she was very sick when she came up here. 764 00:32:14,845 --> 00:32:16,325 She didn't even leave the house, 765 00:32:16,325 --> 00:32:19,111 and she was being taken care of by Richard Finder 766 00:32:19,111 --> 00:32:20,851 during the time of the homicide 767 00:32:20,851 --> 00:32:22,505 and was not in that area. 768 00:32:22,505 --> 00:32:25,987 Janelle Bock was able to give me enough information 769 00:32:25,987 --> 00:32:28,294 to make me feel that he definitely 770 00:32:28,294 --> 00:32:30,252 was not the killer of Barbara, 771 00:32:30,252 --> 00:32:33,081 and she was not a suspect any longer. 772 00:32:34,256 --> 00:32:36,519 [Narrator] Undeterred, detectives scour through 773 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:38,652 the files from 1974 774 00:32:38,652 --> 00:32:41,481 looking for details the original investigators 775 00:32:41,481 --> 00:32:43,222 may have missed. 776 00:32:43,222 --> 00:32:45,441 As I was going through the case file, 777 00:32:47,008 --> 00:32:49,228 Gerry Hicker's name kept popping up. 778 00:32:49,228 --> 00:32:52,057 So Gerry's early role in the case was 779 00:32:52,057 --> 00:32:53,841 he was one of the last people 780 00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:56,191 to allegedly have seen Barbara Jean 781 00:32:56,191 --> 00:32:58,019 at about 10 o'clock in the morning. 782 00:32:58,019 --> 00:32:59,281 He reported her missing, 783 00:32:59,281 --> 00:33:01,022 so he really wasn't somebody 784 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:02,371 that they were looking at 785 00:33:02,371 --> 00:33:05,026 as having a role in her death. 786 00:33:05,026 --> 00:33:06,375 They were really good friends. 787 00:33:06,375 --> 00:33:08,899 That came through in the investigation, 788 00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:12,903 but I wasn't satisfied about him 789 00:33:12,903 --> 00:33:14,905 not being a suspect. 790 00:33:14,905 --> 00:33:16,168 [Narrator] Detectives reach out 791 00:33:16,168 --> 00:33:18,039 to Barbara's former roommates, 792 00:33:18,039 --> 00:33:20,172 asking them about Gerry. 793 00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:21,825 Some of the roommates told me that, 794 00:33:21,825 --> 00:33:24,219 "You know, Gerry just didn't have a lot of friends, 795 00:33:24,219 --> 00:33:26,917 "and Barbara was accepting of everybody. 796 00:33:26,917 --> 00:33:28,745 "Gerry just kind of latched onto Barbara, 797 00:33:28,745 --> 00:33:32,227 "and I think Gerry had more romantic feelings 798 00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:34,316 "for Barbara than Barbara did for him." 799 00:33:34,316 --> 00:33:37,189 I think that the roommates kind of looked at Gerry 800 00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:40,192 as basically kind of a stray pet 801 00:33:40,192 --> 00:33:42,194 that people were taking care of. 802 00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:43,978 He just didn't seem like somebody 803 00:33:43,978 --> 00:33:45,414 who would kill somebody. 804 00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:47,199 [Narrator] When investigators dig into 805 00:33:47,199 --> 00:33:50,071 Gerry's life after Barbara's murder, 806 00:33:50,071 --> 00:33:52,943 they make a disturbing discovery. 807 00:33:52,943 --> 00:33:54,336 Gerry had been accused of 808 00:33:54,336 --> 00:33:57,209 rape in the Provo area after Barbara's murder. 809 00:33:58,732 --> 00:34:02,127 When I found that Gerry was arrested for a sexual assault, 810 00:34:02,127 --> 00:34:03,432 I wanted to know could Gerry 811 00:34:03,432 --> 00:34:05,608 have been the one that killed Barbara? 812 00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:07,088 Barbara's roommates 813 00:34:07,088 --> 00:34:10,004 had been away from Gerry for a long time. 814 00:34:10,004 --> 00:34:13,181 In the interviews I found out that 815 00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:16,315 Gerry really had an obsession with guns, 816 00:34:16,315 --> 00:34:21,624 and that he helped Barbara find the 357 that she bought. 817 00:34:22,495 --> 00:34:23,365 He took her out, 818 00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:25,106 showed her how to shoot the 357. 819 00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:26,412 Gerry would always tell Barbara 820 00:34:26,412 --> 00:34:28,283 about how to load her firearm, 821 00:34:28,283 --> 00:34:32,026 leaving one of the cylinders in the revolver empty, 822 00:34:32,026 --> 00:34:35,073 and then looking back and seeing that Barbara 823 00:34:35,073 --> 00:34:36,422 was shot five times, 824 00:34:36,422 --> 00:34:39,120 is that relevant in this case? 825 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,862 We actually looked at the ME's report, 826 00:34:41,862 --> 00:34:43,342 and we couldn't really determine 827 00:34:43,342 --> 00:34:45,648 if she had been shot five or six times. 828 00:34:45,648 --> 00:34:47,824 There was the opinion that it was six, 829 00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:49,130 but it could have also been 830 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:50,653 through the re-entries and fragments. 831 00:34:50,653 --> 00:34:52,133 Could have been five. 832 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:53,830 As I'm going through these interviews 833 00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:56,746 and I'm listening to what the roommates are telling me, 834 00:34:56,746 --> 00:35:00,489 he was a rock solid suspect at this point. 835 00:35:00,489 --> 00:35:04,711 [Narrator] Detectives race to track down Gerry Hicker. 836 00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:08,845 I went to Gerry Hicker's house in Washington. 837 00:35:08,845 --> 00:35:10,195 Explained to him that I was 838 00:35:10,195 --> 00:35:11,718 looking at the Barbara Rocky case, 839 00:35:11,718 --> 00:35:14,068 and Gerry immediately said, 840 00:35:14,068 --> 00:35:15,765 "You'll have to talk with my attorney," 841 00:35:15,765 --> 00:35:19,073 and that he wasn't going to give me a statement. 842 00:35:19,073 --> 00:35:20,379 So at that point, 843 00:35:20,379 --> 00:35:21,728 I had nothing else to do but leave. 844 00:35:23,208 --> 00:35:25,297 [Narrator] With Gerry refusing to cooperate, 845 00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:28,038 investigators must find concrete evidence 846 00:35:28,038 --> 00:35:30,302 to link him to Barbara's murder. 847 00:35:30,302 --> 00:35:35,002 We wanted to see if with today's technology 848 00:35:35,002 --> 00:35:36,308 that if there was a sexual assault, 849 00:35:36,308 --> 00:35:37,396 that there might be something 850 00:35:37,396 --> 00:35:39,528 suitable for DNA testing. 851 00:35:39,528 --> 00:35:42,531 I was pretty excited to find that a vaginal 852 00:35:42,531 --> 00:35:44,533 and rectal swab had been taken on Barbara 853 00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:48,320 because by now we were utilizing DNA testing, 854 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,452 and I thought that I was going to be able to 855 00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:53,368 match those up with DNA that we got 856 00:35:53,368 --> 00:35:56,415 from whatever suspects were in the case file. 857 00:35:56,415 --> 00:35:59,287 [Narrator] Investigators hope that the swab test results 858 00:35:59,287 --> 00:36:01,463 will point towards Gerry. 859 00:36:01,463 --> 00:36:04,074 They didn't know about DNA in 1974, 860 00:36:04,074 --> 00:36:06,207 and they packaged everything in plastic. 861 00:36:06,207 --> 00:36:08,340 Because it was packaged in plastic, 862 00:36:08,340 --> 00:36:10,907 it ruined any DNA that was in 863 00:36:10,907 --> 00:36:14,520 any of the biological material that was taken. 864 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,349 I was devastated. 865 00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:19,089 I thought I was going to be able 866 00:36:19,089 --> 00:36:21,483 to solve that case really quickly, 867 00:36:21,483 --> 00:36:23,485 but that's not what happened. 868 00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:25,095 [Narrator] Fearing that the case 869 00:36:25,095 --> 00:36:27,359 will go cold again without solid evidence, 870 00:36:27,359 --> 00:36:29,535 investigators gamble on another way 871 00:36:29,535 --> 00:36:32,102 to obtain the evidence they're looking for. 872 00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:33,365 [dramatic music] 873 00:36:33,365 --> 00:36:35,932 I took items that had not been tested yet 874 00:36:35,932 --> 00:36:39,109 from the original evidence to our crime lab 875 00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:40,589 to have them tested. 876 00:36:40,589 --> 00:36:42,504 [Narrator] The original crime scene evidence 877 00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:45,899 includes a soil sample from beneath Barbara's body. 878 00:36:45,899 --> 00:36:49,598 I was just more or less taking the dirt out 879 00:36:49,598 --> 00:36:52,384 to have a sample taken in case 880 00:36:52,384 --> 00:36:55,517 some seminal fluid had migrated down into the dirt. 881 00:36:55,517 --> 00:36:57,780 There was still the belief, 882 00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:00,130 based on the scene and everything, 883 00:37:00,130 --> 00:37:01,131 that there was a possibility 884 00:37:01,131 --> 00:37:02,437 of a sexual assault. 885 00:37:02,437 --> 00:37:04,265 When I got the results of the test, 886 00:37:04,265 --> 00:37:08,617 surprisingly we got a match that there was DNA 887 00:37:08,617 --> 00:37:12,055 from the soil that was underneath Barbara's body. 888 00:37:12,055 --> 00:37:13,143 [dramatic music] 889 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:14,841 [Narrator] After 30 years, 890 00:37:14,841 --> 00:37:18,540 had DNA analysis finally identified Barbara's killer? 891 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:22,762 What came back as a result of that testing was shocking. 892 00:37:22,762 --> 00:37:25,591 [dramatic music] 893 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:33,338 [tense music]arrator] It's been 894 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:35,253 since student Barbara Rocky 895 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:37,255 was found stripped and shot 896 00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:39,735 in Big Cottonwood Canyon, Utah. 897 00:37:39,735 --> 00:37:45,175 In 2007, DNA in a soil sample from under her body 898 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:47,352 finally reveals her killer. 899 00:37:47,352 --> 00:37:51,573 Finding that DNA in the soil 900 00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:53,923 was like finding a needle in a haystack, 901 00:37:53,923 --> 00:37:55,534 a big haystack. 902 00:37:55,534 --> 00:37:58,450 The results come in and we've got a match, 903 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:00,408 and it's Gerry Hicker. 904 00:38:00,408 --> 00:38:02,758 [dramatic music] 905 00:38:02,758 --> 00:38:04,673 Just that little bit of information 906 00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:06,588 was all that we needed to link Gerry Hicker 907 00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:08,286 to this crime scene. 908 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,766 He was not who we suspected initially, 909 00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:13,334 and so to learn that he was 910 00:38:13,334 --> 00:38:15,902 the one responsible for killing her 911 00:38:15,902 --> 00:38:17,425 was very surprising. 912 00:38:17,425 --> 00:38:20,254 [Narrator] On November 6, 2007, 913 00:38:20,254 --> 00:38:22,691 56-year-old Gerry Hicker is charged 914 00:38:22,691 --> 00:38:26,304 with the first-degree murder of Barbara Rocky. 915 00:38:26,304 --> 00:38:27,609 When I first found out that 916 00:38:27,609 --> 00:38:30,830 the killer of Barbara was Gerry Hicker, 917 00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:31,961 I was 918 00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:33,311 surprised 919 00:38:33,311 --> 00:38:34,616 because I heard that 920 00:38:34,616 --> 00:38:36,879 he was just sort of a guy from next door. 921 00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:38,577 It was a shock. 922 00:38:38,577 --> 00:38:41,101 I never thought it would be solved. 923 00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:44,191 [Narrator] As prosecutors prepare for their day in court, 924 00:38:44,191 --> 00:38:48,282 they piece together a theory of how Gerry killed Barbara. 925 00:38:48,282 --> 00:38:51,764 So our belief of what happened was, 926 00:38:51,764 --> 00:38:55,289 Gerry Hicker knew that Barbara may be leaving, 927 00:38:55,289 --> 00:38:58,640 because that next morning he was aware of the letter 928 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,339 before he brought the car back. 929 00:39:01,339 --> 00:39:03,428 I think what tipped him over the edge was 930 00:39:03,428 --> 00:39:05,038 he wanted Barbara 931 00:39:06,605 --> 00:39:10,391 sexually, and her rejection and her indication 932 00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:13,394 of leaving Gerry was more than he could take. 933 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,614 Hicker winds up talking Rocky 934 00:39:15,614 --> 00:39:17,746 into going up Big Cottonwood Canyon 935 00:39:17,746 --> 00:39:21,750 with this scenic view one more time before she leaves. 936 00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:24,753 And when they get to this spot, 937 00:39:24,753 --> 00:39:27,843 Gerry's trying to put the moves on Barbara, 938 00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:29,758 and she doesn't want to have 939 00:39:29,758 --> 00:39:31,673 anything to do with Gerry that way. 940 00:39:31,673 --> 00:39:33,414 Hicker takes out a gun, 941 00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:37,723 and in rage he tells her to strip down, 942 00:39:37,723 --> 00:39:40,639 and she was probably folding the clothes 943 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,381 in order to buy herself a little more time. 944 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,513 Barbara's pleading for her life. 945 00:39:45,513 --> 00:39:47,515 She's just trying to get anything 946 00:39:47,515 --> 00:39:49,952 into Gerry's mind to not do this. 947 00:39:51,432 --> 00:39:52,651 And then he shot her, [gunfire blasting] 948 00:39:52,651 --> 00:39:54,522 apparently while she was standing up, 949 00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:56,002 and then she went down, 950 00:39:56,002 --> 00:39:57,569 and then he shot her 951 00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:00,920 four times in the lower back region. 952 00:40:01,703 --> 00:40:02,835 [Narrator] After the murder, 953 00:40:02,835 --> 00:40:05,533 Gerry tried to cover his tracks. 954 00:40:05,533 --> 00:40:08,318 Gerry has to drive back to campus. 955 00:40:08,318 --> 00:40:09,842 He gets rid of the gun, 956 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:14,412 and he's trying to come up with alibis. 957 00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,544 He knows he can't park the car 958 00:40:16,544 --> 00:40:18,285 right there at Barbara's house, 959 00:40:18,285 --> 00:40:22,420 so he takes it over to the Parkway Plaza Apartments. 960 00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:24,422 That's where he decides 961 00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:26,424 he's going to use this letter 962 00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:27,729 making her a missing person. 963 00:40:27,729 --> 00:40:30,819 This was a young woman who trusted somebody. 964 00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:33,561 They're supposed to be going to a nice spot, 965 00:40:33,561 --> 00:40:36,303 and instead she's shot and murdered. 966 00:40:36,303 --> 00:40:38,697 I felt so horrible knowing that 967 00:40:38,697 --> 00:40:41,482 she had gone through something like that. 968 00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:44,442 She was probably so scared. 969 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,748 Nobody deserved to die like that. 970 00:40:46,748 --> 00:40:48,533 Nobody. [gentle music] 971 00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,796 I believe that Gerry was 972 00:40:50,796 --> 00:40:54,452 being the concerned, loving friend, 973 00:40:54,452 --> 00:40:58,499 and that may have put some thoughts 974 00:40:58,499 --> 00:40:59,892 in the investigators mind that there's just 975 00:40:59,892 --> 00:41:02,808 no way Gerry could have done this. 976 00:41:02,808 --> 00:41:05,767 Beneath the facade just seemed to be rage 977 00:41:05,767 --> 00:41:08,770 and anger that he'd been rejected. 978 00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:11,556 I think Gerry Hicker was a sexual predator 979 00:41:11,556 --> 00:41:14,733 that got away with a lot of crimes. 980 00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:18,127 We were so glad and so grateful 981 00:41:18,127 --> 00:41:19,651 [gentle music] 982 00:41:19,651 --> 00:41:22,436 that the detectives had worked so hard. 983 00:41:22,436 --> 00:41:26,832 It boggled my mind that they could solve it after 34 years. 984 00:41:28,355 --> 00:41:30,139 [Narrator] Despite an airtight case against Gerry, 985 00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:34,492 his declining health leaves prosecutors with a new dilemma. 986 00:41:34,492 --> 00:41:36,885 When I went to arrest Gerry, 987 00:41:36,885 --> 00:41:39,497 he had been diagnosed with cancer. 988 00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,803 He was just the shell of a man. 989 00:41:41,803 --> 00:41:44,763 We didn't feel that his life span 990 00:41:44,763 --> 00:41:48,070 was much of five years, if that. 991 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:51,421 So we worked out a deal that he would plead 992 00:41:51,421 --> 00:41:54,773 to a substantially reduced charge of manslaughter, 993 00:41:54,773 --> 00:41:55,861 and that he would be sentenced 994 00:41:55,861 --> 00:41:58,037 to the prison for five years, 995 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:00,996 figuring that would be a life sentence. 996 00:42:00,996 --> 00:42:05,131 Going with the plea deal was my mom's decision. 997 00:42:05,131 --> 00:42:07,655 She wanted him to say 998 00:42:07,655 --> 00:42:10,963 in his own words that he did it. 999 00:42:10,963 --> 00:42:13,487 She wanted those answers. 1000 00:42:14,923 --> 00:42:16,490 [Narrator] Gerry Hicker serves three years 1001 00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:18,144 in Utah state prison, 1002 00:42:18,144 --> 00:42:19,841 and in 2014, 1003 00:42:19,841 --> 00:42:22,540 five years after pleading guilty, 1004 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:23,932 he dies of cancer. 1005 00:42:25,717 --> 00:42:28,197 I bet you he had been looking over his shoulders 1006 00:42:28,197 --> 00:42:29,895 all these years. 1007 00:42:29,895 --> 00:42:32,724 I felt that his ill health was Barbara's justice. 1008 00:42:32,724 --> 00:42:36,945 This is somebody that wasted away not only his life, 1009 00:42:36,945 --> 00:42:40,819 he ruined so many people's lives by his selfish act. 1010 00:42:40,819 --> 00:42:42,560 Barbara didn't deserve this. 1011 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,562 She had so much ahead of her, 1012 00:42:44,562 --> 00:42:47,042 but the family does have some answers. 1013 00:42:47,042 --> 00:42:49,697 That's the goal in my investigation. 1014 00:42:49,697 --> 00:42:52,700 I think that in this case justice was served, 1015 00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:55,268 and that the family got answers 1016 00:42:55,268 --> 00:42:57,531 that they would not have otherwise had. 1017 00:42:57,531 --> 00:42:59,402 The thing I miss most about Barbara 1018 00:42:59,402 --> 00:43:03,755 was the times that we used to blast Beatles music 1019 00:43:03,755 --> 00:43:06,671 and sing and dance for hours. 1020 00:43:06,671 --> 00:43:08,455 Just being kids, you know? 1021 00:43:09,674 --> 00:43:11,501 I remember her then. 1022 00:43:11,501 --> 00:43:13,242 Barbara was such a giving person. 1023 00:43:13,242 --> 00:43:15,288 I feel inspired by her 1024 00:43:16,898 --> 00:43:19,553 ability to give of herself 1025 00:43:22,948 --> 00:43:25,298 and I try to emulate that. 1026 00:43:28,257 --> 00:43:30,912 [somber music]