1 00:00:06,589 --> 00:00:08,717 ANDY: Tonight, the dramatic conclusion 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,929 of "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City" reunion. 3 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:18,226 Lisa, it seems like John wants to embarrass you on camera. 4 00:00:18,309 --> 00:00:19,894 So Todd and I are separated. 5 00:00:21,938 --> 00:00:24,774 How are you and Justin now? 6 00:00:24,816 --> 00:00:26,526 Can I have a minute? 7 00:00:26,609 --> 00:00:28,153 [sniffles] 8 00:00:28,278 --> 00:00:30,238 Meredith, is there any accountability you want to take 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,240 for what transpired on the plane ride? 10 00:00:32,282 --> 00:00:33,575 No. 11 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:35,410 Okay. There we have it. 12 00:00:35,493 --> 00:00:36,911 And you said that I popped pills? 13 00:00:36,995 --> 00:00:40,206 I didn't say that you popped pills. 14 00:00:40,290 --> 00:00:42,375 Please don't say you didn't do it. 15 00:00:42,500 --> 00:00:44,919 Like you can't dare to have a conversation with 16 00:00:44,961 --> 00:00:47,172 the rest of us, why are you above it? 17 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:49,341 Sit the fuck down and talk through it with us. 18 00:00:49,382 --> 00:00:50,550 Don't talk to me that way. 19 00:01:01,686 --> 00:01:04,147 I'm so sick of being ganged up on. 20 00:01:04,230 --> 00:01:06,316 And called bigoted. It's not okay. 21 00:01:06,358 --> 00:01:07,609 It's not okay! 22 00:01:10,028 --> 00:01:11,446 I need to go. 23 00:01:13,239 --> 00:01:15,116 Oh, God. 24 00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:17,327 Stop calling me a victim. I'm not victim! 25 00:01:17,410 --> 00:01:19,037 I'm not kidding. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,121 Leave me alone. 27 00:01:20,205 --> 00:01:21,915 -Who said that? -I did. 28 00:01:21,956 --> 00:01:23,708 'Cause she's playing the victim. 29 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,294 See, but this is how we found her on the plane, you know? 30 00:01:26,336 --> 00:01:27,545 So like, when someone is this devastated -- 31 00:01:27,587 --> 00:01:29,130 Right. -...it's hard not to 32 00:01:29,255 --> 00:01:30,840 have compassion. -What did I just do? 33 00:01:30,924 --> 00:01:33,385 Did I pull her hair and dump wine on her? 34 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:36,137 Or did I just call out her bad behavior? 35 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:38,682 [crying] 36 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:40,600 I need a minute. 37 00:01:40,725 --> 00:01:41,976 I need a minute. 38 00:01:42,018 --> 00:01:44,396 If she took the post down when she found out... 39 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:45,605 Didn't she make it right? 40 00:01:45,730 --> 00:01:47,148 Isn't that... 41 00:01:47,232 --> 00:01:48,733 She did the right thing. 42 00:01:48,858 --> 00:01:50,819 She took the post down not when she found out. 43 00:01:50,860 --> 00:01:54,614 She questioned it first, was berated by the public 44 00:01:54,698 --> 00:01:57,492 for it, and then took it down. 45 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:58,993 We call her a dingbat, but now we're expecting her 46 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:02,539 to have like expert execution? 47 00:02:02,622 --> 00:02:04,833 She felt like she was under public attack. 48 00:02:04,874 --> 00:02:07,210 That's why, not because it was like condemning 49 00:02:07,252 --> 00:02:09,337 what she did. 50 00:02:09,421 --> 00:02:10,588 I think she didn't mean -- I don't think she knew 51 00:02:10,672 --> 00:02:11,631 what was going on. -But I mean, we don't know 52 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,508 what her intentions were, I mean... 53 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:16,344 I know how she treated me when I confronted her. 54 00:02:16,428 --> 00:02:18,513 And I know how she has treated me 55 00:02:18,596 --> 00:02:19,931 from the beginning. 56 00:02:20,056 --> 00:02:23,893 And I know that I was nice to her at my bat mitzvah -- 57 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:26,646 -Yes. -I threw Angie out for her. 58 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:29,816 -Right. -And then she completely 59 00:02:29,858 --> 00:02:32,402 turned and started lying about me. 60 00:02:32,485 --> 00:02:35,447 No offense, but maybe she doesn't like you. 61 00:02:35,572 --> 00:02:38,158 And you don't like her either. I mean... 62 00:02:38,283 --> 00:02:41,286 But she had no reason to start it to begin with. 63 00:02:41,411 --> 00:02:45,582 [crying] It's just... it's so not fair. 64 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:47,000 [crying] 65 00:02:47,083 --> 00:02:49,502 I didn't do anything wrong. 66 00:02:49,586 --> 00:02:53,089 I am curious what your reaction 67 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,633 to all these other women 68 00:02:55,717 --> 00:02:58,887 having a different experience of what happened on the plane 69 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:02,182 than you specifically Mary who sat you down 70 00:03:02,223 --> 00:03:04,351 and had kind of a calm, reasonable 71 00:03:04,392 --> 00:03:06,644 conversation with you about it. 72 00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:07,395 The things I said to Lisa were all things 73 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:09,773 I've said to Britani. 74 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:12,442 Well, I'm just gonna say this, it went on, 75 00:03:12,525 --> 00:03:13,902 it went on for a minute. 76 00:03:13,985 --> 00:03:15,445 It was about 15 minutes. 77 00:03:15,487 --> 00:03:16,863 No, Meredith. 78 00:03:16,988 --> 00:03:18,740 Yeah, it was. 79 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:20,658 It was definitely longer. 80 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:25,663 People really fall in line with what Mary Cosby is saying. 81 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:28,416 I guess what was your reaction when she sat you down? 82 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:30,585 I didn't really understand it, to be totally honest. 83 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:33,630 I felt, um, you know -- -And that's alarming. 84 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:38,259 ...it's hard because I feel like, you know, 85 00:03:38,426 --> 00:03:42,222 over the last year or two, we've had all this tension 86 00:03:42,305 --> 00:03:44,349 and I don't quite understand it. 87 00:03:44,432 --> 00:03:46,267 Okay, so do you remember the things that you were saying 88 00:03:46,393 --> 00:03:47,977 before we got on the plane? -Yes. 89 00:03:48,019 --> 00:03:51,898 You were mad so you was fueled and angered and you were 90 00:03:51,981 --> 00:03:53,566 talking and talking. -Meredith. 91 00:03:53,608 --> 00:03:56,361 -Oh. -What? What's going on? 92 00:03:56,444 --> 00:04:00,448 Meredith. 93 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:02,409 I apologize profusely. 94 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:03,868 -Oh, God. -I bawled my eyes out. 95 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:05,078 I told you I was so sorry. 96 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:06,413 Shut up. 97 00:04:06,454 --> 00:04:10,625 We squashed it back then. We're done. 98 00:04:10,709 --> 00:04:12,627 That's it. Moving on. 99 00:04:12,711 --> 00:04:14,129 I like this conversation, though, 100 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:16,006 because I thought what they were talking about 101 00:04:16,131 --> 00:04:17,465 was interesting. -Yes. Me too. 102 00:04:17,507 --> 00:04:18,717 Because you were finally getting somewhere. 103 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,343 Yes, continue. You two. 104 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:24,389 So I was saying to Meredith, like, 105 00:04:24,514 --> 00:04:26,349 there's a lot of things that you were venting. 106 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:27,684 You might've vent to Lisa, but you certainly 107 00:04:27,726 --> 00:04:29,519 vented to me. 108 00:04:29,602 --> 00:04:30,770 Please don't say you didn't do it when you did. 109 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:32,647 I didn't say I didn't do it. 110 00:04:32,731 --> 00:04:36,401 I've said from day one, I vented to Lisa. 111 00:04:36,484 --> 00:04:38,903 I've said this from the beginning, middle, and end. 112 00:04:38,987 --> 00:04:40,280 It was the wrong place. 113 00:04:40,363 --> 00:04:42,032 Yeah, that's what you do when you stick 114 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:43,575 to a story that you've agreed upon. 115 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:45,827 You say the same story over and over and over. 116 00:04:45,952 --> 00:04:49,122 -It's what I'm still saying. -Okay. 117 00:04:49,247 --> 00:04:51,833 Meredith, did you have a couple drinks before the flight? 118 00:04:51,916 --> 00:04:53,001 I had a drink in the lounge. 119 00:04:53,084 --> 00:04:54,753 Yes. -You had one drink. 120 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:58,006 -Correct. -Okay, so it's confusing to 121 00:04:58,131 --> 00:04:59,966 viewers that you can't 122 00:05:00,008 --> 00:05:01,718 remember what happened at the end of 123 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,219 "Crazy Rich Asians." 124 00:05:03,345 --> 00:05:04,888 Oh, well, because I fell asleep. 125 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:06,848 I was watching movies and dozing in and out. 126 00:05:07,849 --> 00:05:09,684 And Lisa also fell asleep 127 00:05:09,726 --> 00:05:12,437 when I climbed over her to go to the restroom. 128 00:05:12,479 --> 00:05:13,938 The descent was. The descent, 129 00:05:14,064 --> 00:05:15,023 which would have been the end of the movie, 130 00:05:15,106 --> 00:05:16,983 was the climax of the fight. 131 00:05:17,025 --> 00:05:19,194 I vented. I absolutely vented a little 132 00:05:19,277 --> 00:05:21,029 at the beginning, and at the end, 133 00:05:21,071 --> 00:05:23,448 oh, I 100% went to sleep and she went to sleep. 134 00:05:23,573 --> 00:05:25,450 That's when I climbed over her to get out of the seat. 135 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:27,243 Do you want to know something 136 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:29,537 that really bothers me about this whole situation? 137 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:32,207 -Yeah. -I was so upset on the boat. 138 00:05:32,290 --> 00:05:36,002 I think that you're the source of all the dirt. 139 00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:37,962 I'm not the source of anything. 140 00:05:38,088 --> 00:05:43,134 People tell me stuff, and I'm all of a sudden responsible. 141 00:05:51,768 --> 00:05:54,646 I felt very alone and I wanted to go home. 142 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:59,776 If I could have swam to shore, I would have gone up there. 143 00:05:59,901 --> 00:06:02,404 I was so empathetic to her because 144 00:06:02,487 --> 00:06:05,115 it's like what you guys do is wrong. 145 00:06:05,156 --> 00:06:07,909 I was like crying to the -- -What you do is wrong, too. 146 00:06:08,034 --> 00:06:09,411 No, I did nothing to you. 147 00:06:09,452 --> 00:06:11,204 And I'm falsely accused of stuff all the time. 148 00:06:11,246 --> 00:06:12,372 No, you weren't falsely accused. 149 00:06:12,414 --> 00:06:14,708 I accused you of what I felt is true 150 00:06:14,791 --> 00:06:16,543 and I still believe it's true. 151 00:06:16,626 --> 00:06:18,003 No, I still think it's true, 152 00:06:18,128 --> 00:06:19,254 and I still love you and I still want to be your friend, 153 00:06:19,337 --> 00:06:20,338 which is astonishing. -Well, then, well, 154 00:06:20,463 --> 00:06:21,673 I don't know if I want to be your friend 155 00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:23,049 if you think that's true and I 156 00:06:23,091 --> 00:06:25,010 told you on the boat, when you said 157 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:28,138 you've done mean things to all of us, I was having -- 158 00:06:28,179 --> 00:06:31,016 I was having my feelings, I was sharing my feelings. 159 00:06:31,141 --> 00:06:32,767 But now it's about Heather's feelings. 160 00:06:32,851 --> 00:06:34,686 It's about your feelings so 161 00:06:34,728 --> 00:06:37,939 okay, let's hear your feelings because I was sharing mine. 162 00:06:37,981 --> 00:06:39,607 I won't be vulnerable. I won't say exactly 163 00:06:39,691 --> 00:06:42,277 how I feel and exactly what I mean. 164 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:44,154 Continue talking. 165 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,656 I'm done. Continue talking. I'm done. 166 00:06:46,698 --> 00:06:49,617 You can't cry about the things you did in the past. 167 00:06:49,659 --> 00:06:51,119 I'm not going to take accountability for 168 00:06:51,202 --> 00:06:54,456 fucking shit I don't do. 169 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:55,623 Relax. Babe, it's not that serious. 170 00:06:55,707 --> 00:06:57,292 No, that is the end of the story. 171 00:06:57,334 --> 00:06:59,336 -No, I'm saying -- -I am not going to be 172 00:06:59,461 --> 00:07:02,339 saying I did something I did not do. 173 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:03,631 Okay, but you did it. 174 00:07:03,715 --> 00:07:05,342 You cannot get mad about something 175 00:07:05,383 --> 00:07:06,593 that they're accusing you if you did it in the past. 176 00:07:07,385 --> 00:07:08,428 And you're not going to like it. 177 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:10,472 I'll own it, I'll own every single thing. 178 00:07:10,555 --> 00:07:12,057 I've made a lot of bad decisions, 179 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:13,850 in an attempt to be liked 180 00:07:14,017 --> 00:07:15,393 and I have boundaries now, 181 00:07:15,518 --> 00:07:16,436 but and I love you, but I'm not gonna back down on this. 182 00:07:16,519 --> 00:07:18,938 Something I did not do, and I'm done. 183 00:07:19,022 --> 00:07:21,941 But I empathize with her. I literally -- 184 00:07:21,983 --> 00:07:23,401 You don't think I empathize with her? 185 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,904 I felt so alone, so isolated. 186 00:07:26,029 --> 00:07:27,489 And that's what you were doing to her. 187 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:29,824 That's what everyone was doing to her. 188 00:07:29,866 --> 00:07:32,035 Well, it was also done to Britani, too. 189 00:07:32,118 --> 00:07:33,244 I had your back. 190 00:07:36,039 --> 00:07:37,123 Okay, stop. 191 00:07:37,165 --> 00:07:39,000 Harper from Columbus said, Whitney, 192 00:07:39,042 --> 00:07:40,752 what did you think of Meredith handing out drug 193 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:42,837 tests at the tea party 194 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:45,215 since despite what she says, she would never take one? 195 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:47,425 Oh, I would take one. 196 00:07:47,509 --> 00:07:49,844 Happy to. I have one here today if you want me to take it. 197 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:51,471 I will take a drug test every single 198 00:07:51,513 --> 00:07:53,014 day to prove to you that I do not do 199 00:07:53,098 --> 00:07:55,308 any drugs because this story 200 00:07:55,392 --> 00:07:57,727 is incredibly damaging to my 201 00:07:57,769 --> 00:08:00,230 business and you can't walk it back once it's out. 202 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:02,857 And I will literally take a drug test every 203 00:08:02,941 --> 00:08:04,401 single day for as long as you want. 204 00:08:04,442 --> 00:08:06,194 But to answer your question, Andy, I thought it was 205 00:08:06,277 --> 00:08:08,822 diabolical, and then it was funny. 206 00:08:08,947 --> 00:08:12,617 Odette on Twitter said, Whitney, calling Meredith an addict 207 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:15,286 is a dangerous and damaging label. Why would you do that? 208 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:17,747 Especially since you've dealt with it with your dad. 209 00:08:17,831 --> 00:08:21,376 Yeah, so I apologized in Greece. 210 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:24,045 I think it's horrible that I said it. 211 00:08:24,087 --> 00:08:25,422 Slipped out of my mouth out of frustration 212 00:08:25,547 --> 00:08:27,799 because she was telling me that I was lying 213 00:08:27,841 --> 00:08:29,676 about the plane and it was 214 00:08:29,759 --> 00:08:32,762 ticking me off and it was not as stupid. 215 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:34,764 I hate that I said it, but I'm like, okay, 216 00:08:34,848 --> 00:08:37,100 well, that's a character assassinating thing. 217 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:39,728 Your go to is liar, liar, lies. 218 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:42,313 So to get you to stop, I stooped to your level 219 00:08:42,397 --> 00:08:44,107 and said, all right, if you're gonna call me a liar, 220 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:46,317 I'm call you a pill popper and an alcoholic 221 00:08:46,443 --> 00:08:48,236 because clearly you don't remember the plane. 222 00:08:48,403 --> 00:08:51,489 And my only lived-in experience of when that happens 223 00:08:51,614 --> 00:08:54,451 is when benzos are mixed with alcohol. 224 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:56,619 Do I think you have a problem? No. 225 00:08:56,661 --> 00:08:59,247 I don't take any pills. I don't have any pills. 226 00:08:59,289 --> 00:09:00,999 Can I apologize for the words, please? 227 00:09:01,041 --> 00:09:02,625 The one I took from Bermuda. 228 00:09:02,709 --> 00:09:05,086 You guys gave me a sleeping pill of some sort. 229 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:07,297 You took one, too. Both of you did. 230 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:10,258 You're just coming down off of the benzos. 231 00:09:10,383 --> 00:09:13,720 This is what happens when I give you a xanax before a flight. 232 00:09:13,762 --> 00:09:16,431 What'd we give her? Ambien? 233 00:09:16,514 --> 00:09:18,433 I don't know. I don't take pills. 234 00:09:22,270 --> 00:09:24,773 No, I've given you zofran on a yacht when you were nauseous. 235 00:09:24,939 --> 00:09:26,149 We're deflecting. 236 00:09:26,274 --> 00:09:28,151 We're now deflecting. -So I'm curious. 237 00:09:28,234 --> 00:09:32,697 What other pills have I popped front of you? 238 00:09:32,822 --> 00:09:34,991 I actually drink less than most of the women. 239 00:09:35,116 --> 00:09:38,078 I don't do drugs, and I'm really tired of it. 240 00:09:38,119 --> 00:09:40,246 And let me start counting their drinks. 241 00:09:40,372 --> 00:09:44,417 And the multitude of pills in Britani's pill bottle 242 00:09:44,501 --> 00:09:46,878 and the pills that I've seen Heather and Whitney take. 243 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,342 Stop with your smear campaign or I will start telling the truth. 244 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:55,303 Yeah, you said in the confessionals. 245 00:09:55,345 --> 00:09:58,056 The pills I see Heather and Whitney pop. 246 00:09:58,181 --> 00:10:00,767 I'd like to know what pills you've seen me pop. 247 00:10:00,809 --> 00:10:02,102 I didn't say that you popped pills. 248 00:10:02,185 --> 00:10:03,853 No, in your confessional, you said I popped pills. 249 00:10:03,978 --> 00:10:05,063 Oh, that would have been a sleeping. 250 00:10:05,188 --> 00:10:06,272 That would have been a sleeping pill. 251 00:10:06,314 --> 00:10:08,525 On the airplane, like a prescribed. 252 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:11,778 Those are the pills that you've see me pop. 253 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:12,862 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. 254 00:10:12,946 --> 00:10:13,738 It's a sleeping pill on the plane. 255 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:16,408 You gave it to me. 256 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:18,201 But we're getting away from the point. 257 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:19,869 I'm ashamed that I said those words. 258 00:10:19,953 --> 00:10:22,038 I was frustrated that you were calling me a liar, 259 00:10:22,163 --> 00:10:25,500 so I combated back with that. Okay? 260 00:10:27,752 --> 00:10:29,838 So just to wrap this up, 261 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:31,673 is there any accountability you want to 262 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,259 take for what transpired on the plane ride or anything 263 00:10:34,384 --> 00:10:36,761 to admit that you did or said that was wrong? 264 00:10:36,803 --> 00:10:40,181 100%. I vented to Lisa. 265 00:10:40,265 --> 00:10:44,185 It was an inappropriate time and place, and I did 266 00:10:44,269 --> 00:10:46,021 not mean to hurt Britani's feelings. 267 00:10:46,146 --> 00:10:49,566 I am sorry that she heard me and that it hurt her feelings. 268 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:51,359 And it's nothing that I had not said to her face, 269 00:10:51,484 --> 00:10:52,485 but it wasn't nice. -Okay. 270 00:10:52,694 --> 00:10:55,238 So nothing new that you haven't said before? 271 00:10:55,321 --> 00:10:58,241 -No. -Okay, there we have it. 272 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:00,201 Britani, anything else you want to say? 273 00:11:00,285 --> 00:11:02,537 I want to thank Mary. 274 00:11:02,620 --> 00:11:04,414 I know that we have our differences, and I know 275 00:11:04,456 --> 00:11:06,416 that I'm not your favorite person, but I do want to thank 276 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:08,418 you for rallying with me 277 00:11:08,501 --> 00:11:10,503 and just staying with us in that customs line. 278 00:11:10,587 --> 00:11:11,755 You didn't have to do that. 279 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,132 I felt your kindness, and that meant the world 280 00:11:14,215 --> 00:11:16,051 to me especially since I know I'm not your favorite. 281 00:11:16,134 --> 00:11:17,677 And I just wanted to say thank you. 282 00:11:17,802 --> 00:11:20,138 You kind of went into, like, pastor mode. 283 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:22,265 I don't know if you remember. 284 00:11:22,307 --> 00:11:23,975 She probably should have said that when she came out. 285 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,852 All right, that's it. That's all I have to say. 286 00:11:25,935 --> 00:11:29,314 Okay. All right. -I want to say one thing. 287 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:31,441 I know. I'm just kidding. 288 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:33,610 I can't help myself. I do. 289 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:35,820 I know we're almost done, but I think, like, 290 00:11:35,904 --> 00:11:40,909 I think you got on the plane in a really bad place mentally. 291 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,745 But if you were doing that to me, the air marshal 292 00:11:43,787 --> 00:11:45,789 would have been waiting when we landed. 293 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:47,499 But I just saw the shape she was in. 294 00:11:47,582 --> 00:11:50,710 Yeah, roll your eyes or whatever you want, but the shape 295 00:11:50,794 --> 00:11:55,924 she was in was worse than the shape she left the stage in. 296 00:12:12,857 --> 00:12:13,608 One, we are speeding. 297 00:12:14,609 --> 00:12:16,861 We are back. I am Andy Cohen here with 298 00:12:16,903 --> 00:12:19,906 "The Real Housewives Salt Lake City." 299 00:12:20,031 --> 00:12:21,825 Whether the Salt Lake women were 300 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:25,203 facing a roller coaster relationship with an Osmond, 301 00:12:25,286 --> 00:12:28,623 a failed business, empty nest syndrome, 302 00:12:28,707 --> 00:12:33,169 or being told by their daughter that they are simply too Greek, 303 00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:37,173 drama brewing at home often caused these housewives 304 00:12:37,257 --> 00:12:40,010 to go from gentle to prickly, 305 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:45,015 much like petting a cactus. -That's amazing. 306 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:47,851 Before I get into questions, I just want to say, you know, 307 00:12:47,976 --> 00:12:49,686 I've been working on this show for 20 years, 308 00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:56,901 and I'm so in awe of all of your vulnerability this season 309 00:12:56,943 --> 00:13:01,364 and your willingness to let us into 310 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:05,285 super personal things happening in your lives. 311 00:13:05,368 --> 00:13:07,537 And I know that it's one of the reasons that this 312 00:13:07,620 --> 00:13:10,248 show is so successful. 313 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:13,168 And I just can't thank you enough. 314 00:13:13,251 --> 00:13:16,379 Thank you so much. And you're also all great moms. 315 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:19,090 Really great. And your kids are so impressive. 316 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:21,009 -Okay. -Thank you, Andy. 317 00:13:21,092 --> 00:13:23,553 For real. For real. 318 00:13:23,636 --> 00:13:25,055 And that made it all worth it. 319 00:13:25,138 --> 00:13:27,974 Worth it now every minute, worth it. 320 00:13:28,099 --> 00:13:29,476 -It's so true. -Do we have to keep going? 321 00:13:29,601 --> 00:13:31,561 I know we're all gonna quit. 322 00:13:31,686 --> 00:13:34,731 So, Whitney, did you decide to walk away from your company? 323 00:13:34,856 --> 00:13:37,400 Are you still trying to win back ownership or what's happening? 324 00:13:37,442 --> 00:13:39,027 I had a business that failed. 325 00:13:39,152 --> 00:13:41,821 Justin went all in with me, and now we have nothing. 326 00:13:41,905 --> 00:13:44,199 I fully separated. 327 00:13:44,324 --> 00:13:46,868 It was finalized over, like, the middle of summer. 328 00:13:46,951 --> 00:13:49,871 Unfortunately, I had to rebuy back my inventory, 329 00:13:49,954 --> 00:13:52,832 so I officially own Wild Rose Beauty by myself. 330 00:13:52,957 --> 00:13:55,251 How are you and Justin now? 331 00:13:55,293 --> 00:13:56,753 Justin and I are continuing to 332 00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:58,797 work on communication. 333 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,132 -It's just been hard. -You resent him? 334 00:14:06,805 --> 00:14:08,973 No, and I don't resent him, 335 00:14:09,057 --> 00:14:12,227 but it's been hard, I would say, right now. 336 00:14:12,394 --> 00:14:15,772 So the good thing that has brought is Justin and 337 00:14:15,814 --> 00:14:18,817 I can communicate almost too raw right now. 338 00:14:18,942 --> 00:14:24,656 Like, we're finally speaking about, like, the hard truths 339 00:14:24,739 --> 00:14:27,367 about our marriage that we've swept under the rug for years. 340 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:28,952 Because when you rip off that band aid of just 341 00:14:29,035 --> 00:14:30,745 saying I'm mad at you, 342 00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:32,747 it opens the door for him to say, well, guess what? 343 00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:34,666 I'm mad at you too. 344 00:14:34,749 --> 00:14:36,918 But we're working on it. -Mary? 345 00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:40,296 Are you? 346 00:14:40,922 --> 00:14:43,717 -Am I about to fall asleep? -Am I boring you? 347 00:14:44,342 --> 00:14:46,678 -Was my eyes closed? -They were. 348 00:14:46,803 --> 00:14:48,346 -I was like this. -Okay. 349 00:14:51,766 --> 00:14:54,352 I thought she was asleep. 350 00:14:54,436 --> 00:14:56,271 Rick from Las Vegas said, Whitney, 351 00:14:56,354 --> 00:14:58,898 you've said in the past you've faced issues with Justin 352 00:14:59,024 --> 00:15:03,278 where you thought your marriage was over. 353 00:15:03,361 --> 00:15:07,032 Do you feel like you'll be able to bounce back from this? 354 00:15:07,115 --> 00:15:10,243 -We've bounced back from harder. -Yeah. 355 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:11,953 So... 356 00:15:13,913 --> 00:15:16,750 Yes, there's always a possibility. 357 00:15:16,833 --> 00:15:18,918 Meredith, is Chloe still working for you? 358 00:15:19,002 --> 00:15:21,546 Mm-hmm, she's the best thing that ever happened. 359 00:15:21,671 --> 00:15:23,465 -Oh, that's nice. -Yeah. 360 00:15:23,548 --> 00:15:25,800 And is Brook still working for you, too? 361 00:15:25,884 --> 00:15:28,928 On a more limited basis. 362 00:15:29,012 --> 00:15:30,305 -He's got other gigs, remember? -You saw that? 363 00:15:30,347 --> 00:15:31,681 Yes, I did. 364 00:15:31,765 --> 00:15:34,267 I'm curious what your reaction 365 00:15:34,392 --> 00:15:39,314 was to Seth on Next Gen NYC 366 00:15:39,356 --> 00:15:42,359 talking about his desire to be pansexual. 367 00:15:42,442 --> 00:15:45,362 -Oh, my gosh. -I mean, look, I don't think. 368 00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:49,324 I think it was meant to be, just lighthearted, but, 369 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,701 If that's what he wants, then please just 370 00:15:51,785 --> 00:15:53,828 let me know. -Okay. 371 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:56,164 Something to be discussed, I suppose. 372 00:15:56,247 --> 00:15:58,792 I don't think it's really what he wants. 373 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:00,043 Heather, you seemed really excited 374 00:16:00,126 --> 00:16:01,419 to become an empty nester. 375 00:16:04,881 --> 00:16:07,801 She's the last part of that era, of my life, and I want it 376 00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:11,054 to be over with. -Is it all it cracked up to be? 377 00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:14,015 Yes. I highly recommend. 378 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:16,393 I mean, it has opened up a whole new chapter for me. 379 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:20,230 I'm very happy. I'm dating and, like, the girls, they told me 380 00:16:20,355 --> 00:16:22,357 that their last final is December 9th, and they're like, 381 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,734 we can't be back in the dorms till January 17th. 382 00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:26,653 And I was like, what? 383 00:16:26,736 --> 00:16:29,489 Like, record scratch, like, my whole life ended. 384 00:16:29,572 --> 00:16:32,909 And so it just made me realize how much I have 385 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:35,662 yearned for this freedom and how much I savor and love it. 386 00:16:35,787 --> 00:16:38,873 And I feel like this is my chapter. 387 00:16:38,998 --> 00:16:42,168 Ocean from Iowa said, Angie, is Elektra interested 388 00:16:42,252 --> 00:16:44,963 in pursuing her Greek citizenship yet? 389 00:16:45,005 --> 00:16:46,464 She's not interested yet in pursuing 390 00:16:46,548 --> 00:16:48,383 her citizenship, but she is interested in 391 00:16:48,466 --> 00:16:51,219 going this summer, and that made me really happy. 392 00:16:51,302 --> 00:16:53,638 And, you know, I think with her world being horses, 393 00:16:53,722 --> 00:16:56,641 I mean, she wants to be in the Olympics. Yeah. 394 00:16:56,683 --> 00:16:58,727 As a jumper, so I'm gonna nurture that for 395 00:16:58,810 --> 00:17:00,478 her because it's her dream and her passion. 396 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,397 So I think she can still be half Greek and 397 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,149 half cowgirl. 398 00:17:04,774 --> 00:17:07,193 Britani, you brought Olivia to BravoCon? 399 00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:09,362 -Yes. -She's here tonight. 400 00:17:09,446 --> 00:17:12,240 What did she think of you bringing Jared to BravoCon? 401 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:13,992 She wasn't happy. 402 00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:15,744 She's -- that's -- 403 00:17:15,827 --> 00:17:20,415 It's this really interesting dance that we're playing of 404 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,959 I need my life and she needs to feel 405 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,627 that she's my number one priority. 406 00:17:24,753 --> 00:17:28,423 And I actually, for the very first time in six 407 00:17:28,465 --> 00:17:30,675 years, you guys, I have both girls home for Christmas. 408 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:32,844 This Christmas. 409 00:17:32,927 --> 00:17:35,096 My daughters are the most extraordinary people I know, 410 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:39,601 and I can take only just a teeny bit of credit for that. 411 00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:41,978 They are the reason that I get up every day in the morning. 412 00:17:42,062 --> 00:17:43,188 So. -Wow. 413 00:17:43,355 --> 00:17:45,648 -Well, I'm so happy for you. -Thank you. 414 00:17:45,732 --> 00:17:46,649 -That's great. -Thanks. 415 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,193 Elle from Alaska said, 416 00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:50,403 Lisa, it seems like John wants to embarrass 417 00:17:50,487 --> 00:17:52,489 you on camera the same way 418 00:17:52,614 --> 00:17:54,908 Todd embarrasses Bronwyn. 419 00:17:55,033 --> 00:17:57,243 What's really going on in your marriage? 420 00:17:57,327 --> 00:17:58,703 You took a stray, Bronwyn. 421 00:17:58,787 --> 00:18:00,497 -I did. -Yeah, you did take a stray. 422 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:01,998 That's not fair to you either. 423 00:18:02,123 --> 00:18:04,626 It was a really long, hard hitting conversation 424 00:18:04,709 --> 00:18:06,878 for both of us. -If we're not on the same page, 425 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,088 it's because I'm not on your page. 426 00:18:08,171 --> 00:18:09,881 You don't see it. -I just feel. 427 00:18:10,006 --> 00:18:12,175 No, let me finish. 428 00:18:12,217 --> 00:18:16,888 There are times where I feel completely undervalued. 429 00:18:27,857 --> 00:18:32,445 When I watched it back, I cried for two days. 430 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:38,034 I was like, I don't even want to be near you. 431 00:18:38,076 --> 00:18:42,664 I don't want you talking to me because I just feel hurt 432 00:18:42,747 --> 00:18:45,333 because how does everything get done if I don't listen? 433 00:18:45,417 --> 00:18:47,752 How does Henry get everything at school he needs? 434 00:18:47,836 --> 00:18:49,587 How does Jack get care packages? 435 00:18:49,713 --> 00:18:52,549 How do you have all your shirts cleaned, all your suits done? 436 00:18:52,674 --> 00:18:55,051 The viewers think 437 00:18:55,385 --> 00:18:57,929 that you have an issue taking accountability. 438 00:18:58,013 --> 00:19:00,348 -No. -And listening. 439 00:19:00,557 --> 00:19:05,020 And it seemed like one of the things he was really trying 440 00:19:05,103 --> 00:19:09,065 to express to you is that he feels like you don't 441 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:12,402 take in what he's saying or you don't hear him. 442 00:19:12,527 --> 00:19:14,779 He did say that and he knows that I know that. 443 00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:17,615 And I've made very concerted efforts. 444 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:19,325 We've been together for a very long time. 445 00:19:19,409 --> 00:19:21,036 There's times I can finish his sentence, 446 00:19:21,161 --> 00:19:23,288 finish his thoughts he doesn't even have to finish. 447 00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:24,873 And he knows, like, oh, Lisa's got me. 448 00:19:24,998 --> 00:19:28,043 I mean, doesn't that happen, like, 90% of the time? 449 00:19:28,168 --> 00:19:29,836 We're like, we're business partners, 450 00:19:29,878 --> 00:19:33,006 we're parents together, we're best friends, 451 00:19:33,089 --> 00:19:34,257 and we're in love. 452 00:19:34,341 --> 00:19:37,344 And I think that the bottom line is, 453 00:19:37,385 --> 00:19:39,721 like, he knows damn well, 454 00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:42,223 that I really work hard on listening to him. 455 00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:45,018 And I think for me, it felt really jabby for 456 00:19:45,143 --> 00:19:47,771 him to say that when he knows I work 457 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,397 really hard to listen to him. 458 00:19:49,522 --> 00:19:52,067 He took that opportunity to jab and it hurt. 459 00:19:52,192 --> 00:19:54,110 And I said to him too, like, I'm just gonna 460 00:19:54,194 --> 00:19:55,111 be really transparent. 461 00:19:55,195 --> 00:19:57,530 I said to him, I would 462 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,618 die before I'd make you look bad. 463 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:03,828 You just made me look horrible 464 00:20:03,953 --> 00:20:06,039 on things that you know hurt me. 465 00:20:06,164 --> 00:20:08,833 What, in that scene? -Yes. 466 00:20:08,958 --> 00:20:11,795 He broke my heart, like... 467 00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:14,047 I think to me it just felt real. 468 00:20:14,839 --> 00:20:16,466 Yeah, me too. 469 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:17,884 I think you're beating yourself up. 470 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:20,345 No, but I think she felt embarrassed. 471 00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:21,721 We love John. 472 00:20:21,805 --> 00:20:23,765 We know John. We all sided with John. 473 00:20:23,848 --> 00:20:25,225 But if your husband tells you you're not 474 00:20:25,266 --> 00:20:27,686 not a good listener, then that means you're not. 475 00:20:27,769 --> 00:20:30,146 Your husband knows better than anyone. 476 00:20:30,271 --> 00:20:32,023 That's why I can't try to help you because you always. 477 00:20:32,107 --> 00:20:33,817 -No, I don't need help. -You're sobbing, 478 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,443 and your friend's helping you. 479 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:38,321 No, I don't need help. I'm telling you my feelings. 480 00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:40,532 I don't need help with my feelings. 481 00:20:40,657 --> 00:20:43,118 -Then what are we talking about? -That's your real life. 482 00:20:43,243 --> 00:20:44,786 That's his real. And we're on a reality show. 483 00:20:44,869 --> 00:20:46,705 And those are the hard hitting things. Andy's saying. 484 00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:47,914 Thank you. -I just can't. 485 00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:49,666 Like, it's real and it makes everyone 486 00:20:49,791 --> 00:20:53,378 feel validated that we all have those moments. 487 00:20:53,503 --> 00:20:55,922 It's falling on deaf ears. 488 00:20:56,006 --> 00:20:58,967 It's not falling on deaf ears. 489 00:20:59,551 --> 00:21:00,552 How is that falling on deaf ears? 490 00:21:16,234 --> 00:21:17,318 We are back with "The Real Housewives 491 00:21:18,069 --> 00:21:20,613 of Salt Lake City" reunion. 492 00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:23,575 This season, when Bronwyn wasn't running a youth hostel 493 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:27,787 out of her home, she was facing off with her mom, Muzzy. 494 00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:30,707 And despite Muzzy's I'm fine, 495 00:21:30,749 --> 00:21:33,335 everything is fine sweatshirt, she managed to tell 496 00:21:33,418 --> 00:21:38,423 Bronwyn all the reasons why her life was not, in fact, fine. 497 00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:42,093 And Bronwyn's issues with Todd, 498 00:21:42,135 --> 00:21:44,137 those were just the cherry on top. 499 00:21:44,262 --> 00:21:47,557 Take a look. -Those are some rough puns. 500 00:21:47,682 --> 00:21:50,310 A lot has changed in my house due to some health challenges. 501 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:52,896 Both my parents moved in with me. 502 00:21:52,979 --> 00:21:55,815 My dad has had Alzheimer's for over 10 years. 503 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:57,233 We moved him into a memory care that's 10 504 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,234 minutes away from here. 505 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,111 And I brought my mom back here. 506 00:22:00,195 --> 00:22:02,697 And Gwen's boyfriend is here my house. 507 00:22:02,781 --> 00:22:04,282 I'm like running like a youth hostel 508 00:22:04,324 --> 00:22:06,034 and an elderly hostel. 509 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:09,245 I would not be jazzed if Gwen had a baby at 510 00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:10,497 the same time that I did. 511 00:22:10,622 --> 00:22:11,831 I would handle it very different. 512 00:22:11,915 --> 00:22:13,249 You did not let me have a baby shower. 513 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:14,626 You were not happy about it. You did not let 514 00:22:14,751 --> 00:22:16,002 anybody be excited for me. 515 00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:18,588 I also felt there were periods where, okay, 516 00:22:18,713 --> 00:22:20,674 Gwen's just dropped at my daycare, you know? 517 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:22,801 I do not know what you're talking about. 518 00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:24,636 That Gwen was just dropped at you. 519 00:22:24,678 --> 00:22:27,472 We didn't want her to go into foster care. 520 00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:29,265 I would have worked a second job and paid for something. 521 00:22:29,349 --> 00:22:31,267 Let's not imply that I was going to let Gwen go to foster care. 522 00:22:31,351 --> 00:22:33,228 Mother, that's so dark. 523 00:22:33,269 --> 00:22:38,566 I know I'm rigid and I'm trying not to be. I don't want to be. 524 00:22:39,484 --> 00:22:40,819 Like my mom was. 525 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:42,529 Is that awful to say? 526 00:22:45,281 --> 00:22:47,075 Whitney had a psychic come out from New York. 527 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,078 -I think it's all craziness. -You're really bumming me out. 528 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,330 I'm trying to tell you something I really enjoyed. 529 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:54,749 You know how I feel about when people misunderstand me. 530 00:22:54,833 --> 00:22:59,462 I shouldn't have to feel misunderstood with you too. 531 00:23:00,046 --> 00:23:01,256 People are accusing Todd 532 00:23:01,381 --> 00:23:05,218 of getting caught on a plane, cheating on me. 533 00:23:05,343 --> 00:23:07,470 While Todd was on his flight to New York, 534 00:23:07,512 --> 00:23:12,183 someone caught him looking at photos of women on his phone. 535 00:23:12,225 --> 00:23:14,477 So do you want time? Are you done? 536 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:17,022 It's not a marriage ending conversation, but it is 537 00:23:17,105 --> 00:23:19,941 a life changing conversation for me to be able to say, 538 00:23:19,983 --> 00:23:24,988 this isn't working and I want a different thing. 539 00:23:25,113 --> 00:23:27,157 If you wanted to do something different or be 540 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,702 open or whatever else, I would consider it. 541 00:23:30,785 --> 00:23:34,914 I would do whatever I needed to do to evolve with you. 542 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,958 I'm trying to make it better. 543 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,004 You and Gwen are the most important relationships to me. 544 00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:44,174 -Okay. -That's a lot. 545 00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:45,592 -It's a lot. -It's a lot. 546 00:23:45,675 --> 00:23:47,635 I'm so sorry to hear about 547 00:23:47,719 --> 00:23:50,638 your dad's passing. -Thank you. 548 00:23:50,764 --> 00:23:53,892 How are you and your family doing? 549 00:23:54,184 --> 00:23:56,686 It was right when we got back from Greece. 550 00:23:56,811 --> 00:23:58,813 It was just a really big. 551 00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:05,695 It's odd to feel like he'd been sick for so long, 552 00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:08,406 and I knew this was coming and then just something so simple. 553 00:24:08,448 --> 00:24:11,368 He just tripped and fell, and things 554 00:24:11,451 --> 00:24:16,039 spiraled out of control, and he was gone in days. 555 00:24:16,331 --> 00:24:17,832 How's your mom? 556 00:24:20,585 --> 00:24:23,088 In her own way, it's been really good for my mom. 557 00:24:23,171 --> 00:24:25,507 My mom had never once admitted out loud 558 00:24:25,548 --> 00:24:27,801 that my dad had dementia or Alzheimer's. 559 00:24:27,842 --> 00:24:29,427 And so when he passed, she kept saying, 560 00:24:29,552 --> 00:24:31,971 like, it came out of nowhere. It came out of nowhere. 561 00:24:32,055 --> 00:24:33,431 And Gwen and I kind of had to sit her down and 562 00:24:33,515 --> 00:24:34,766 be like, it didn't come out of nowhere. 563 00:24:34,808 --> 00:24:36,101 This has been happening. 564 00:24:36,184 --> 00:24:37,268 I think she just couldn't accept 565 00:24:37,394 --> 00:24:38,853 that that was happening to her husband. 566 00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:40,188 Yeah. 567 00:24:42,232 --> 00:24:46,319 You shared a lot of really personal stuff this season. 568 00:24:46,403 --> 00:24:47,946 I want to start with Muzzy. 569 00:24:48,071 --> 00:24:50,156 You know, look, you can really get to know someone by 570 00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:53,576 seeing their interactions with their mom. 571 00:24:53,660 --> 00:24:55,078 And she's pretty tough on you. 572 00:24:55,203 --> 00:24:58,081 In turn, I think the viewers were pretty tough on her. 573 00:24:58,206 --> 00:25:00,667 -They really were. -How did that land with her? 574 00:25:00,792 --> 00:25:03,378 So the first episode that she was on that, like, 575 00:25:03,461 --> 00:25:07,090 smaller conversation, she came to me really upset, 576 00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:08,675 like, is this how I speak to you? 577 00:25:08,758 --> 00:25:10,802 Do you feel this way? Do I come across so stern? 578 00:25:10,885 --> 00:25:12,137 Like, she knows she's stern, but I don't think 579 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:14,764 she realized how stern. -Okay. 580 00:25:14,848 --> 00:25:16,850 And I think she took the feedback as, like, 581 00:25:16,891 --> 00:25:19,102 a good thing that we could talk about. 582 00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:20,645 -Okay. -By the time that second 583 00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:22,856 conversation came out, 584 00:25:22,939 --> 00:25:25,400 really hard, things were being said about her. 585 00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:26,901 Memes were being made. 586 00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:28,737 Jokes at her expense were being made. 587 00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:30,488 She's still my mom. 588 00:25:31,156 --> 00:25:35,577 I think she felt like the whole world was turning on her, 589 00:25:35,618 --> 00:25:37,871 And I think she blames me a little bit for that. 590 00:25:37,912 --> 00:25:42,751 Oh, God, I'm so sorry. That's so rough. 591 00:25:42,834 --> 00:25:47,505 But she was really nice and accepted this last one of, so. 592 00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:49,215 So that's the thing, is people aren't 593 00:25:49,341 --> 00:25:51,134 one dimensional, and there's just something 594 00:25:51,259 --> 00:25:53,428 about our personalities that's really tricky. 595 00:25:53,511 --> 00:25:56,890 We just, like, push, pull constantly with each other. 596 00:25:57,015 --> 00:25:58,933 Is the push pull because of your lifestyle, 597 00:25:59,017 --> 00:26:01,436 because you're not Mormon? -I think a lot of it is that. 598 00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:03,271 And she just doesn't know how to say that. 599 00:26:03,313 --> 00:26:05,857 Like, when I watched that scene of her talking to me about my 600 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:08,777 pregnancy, it felt like, she was subconsciously saying 601 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:11,029 to anybody who watched it that she was still a good 602 00:26:11,112 --> 00:26:13,073 Mormon, that she did not agree with this. 603 00:26:13,156 --> 00:26:14,699 It's allegiance to the principles in the church 604 00:26:14,824 --> 00:26:16,368 over allegiance to her daughter. 605 00:26:16,451 --> 00:26:17,911 Yeah. It wasn't even, like, about me. 606 00:26:17,952 --> 00:26:19,829 It was about pointing out to the whole 607 00:26:19,954 --> 00:26:22,624 world that she never, ever agreed with this and 608 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:24,376 that she would never have done that. 609 00:26:24,459 --> 00:26:26,670 I mean, I see it all the time. 610 00:26:26,753 --> 00:26:28,463 You said Todd stepped up and helped support 611 00:26:28,505 --> 00:26:33,218 your parents financially. What did that entail? 612 00:26:33,301 --> 00:26:35,720 So my mom was my dad's sole caretaker, 613 00:26:35,845 --> 00:26:38,890 so when she had the brain tumor, I needed somebody at the house. 614 00:26:38,932 --> 00:26:40,517 We had a shift of four 615 00:26:40,642 --> 00:26:42,560 people around the clock being with my dad so 616 00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:44,854 I could be at the hospital with my mom. 617 00:26:44,938 --> 00:26:47,774 And then we moved my parents in with me and 618 00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:50,026 then my dad almost immediately into memory care. 619 00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:52,946 It was too much for me to have both of them at home with me, 620 00:26:52,987 --> 00:26:55,990 so Todd was helping financially while 621 00:26:56,074 --> 00:26:57,575 they figured out selling their house. 622 00:26:57,617 --> 00:26:59,994 Memory care is incredibly expensive. 623 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,205 Todd stepped in and did everything. 624 00:27:02,288 --> 00:27:05,000 It was nice to see that while 625 00:27:05,083 --> 00:27:07,293 you were in Greece, he went 626 00:27:07,377 --> 00:27:09,337 to be with your mom and help her move. 627 00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:11,965 -Yeah. -Maybe that was a side of Todd 628 00:27:12,048 --> 00:27:13,842 that none of us had really seen before. 629 00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:15,510 Yeah, I think. 630 00:27:17,512 --> 00:27:20,265 Do you have more questions about Todd? 631 00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:23,268 Do I have more questions about Todd? I do. 632 00:27:23,351 --> 00:27:25,937 Do you want me to start with where we are now, 633 00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:27,439 or do you want me to start with where we were on the show 634 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,858 and work our way forward? 635 00:27:29,899 --> 00:27:33,653 I want you to tell me what you want to tell me. 636 00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:53,214 I want you to tell me what you want to tell me. 637 00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:05,393 So Todd and I are separated. 638 00:28:17,322 --> 00:28:19,199 I'm sorry, Bronwyn. 639 00:28:19,282 --> 00:28:21,576 Sorry. His choice? 640 00:28:21,659 --> 00:28:24,079 -It's my choice. -It's your choice. 641 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:24,913 Okay. 642 00:28:33,129 --> 00:28:36,591 What would be the thing that made you say, 643 00:28:36,675 --> 00:28:38,093 enough's enough? 644 00:28:41,388 --> 00:28:44,474 This year was so hard for me. 645 00:28:44,516 --> 00:28:48,019 I watched myself in some of those conversations 646 00:28:48,103 --> 00:28:50,772 saying things I don't think I meant. 647 00:28:50,814 --> 00:28:52,607 Like, when I was like, if you wanted to be 648 00:28:52,691 --> 00:28:53,942 open, of course I'd try it. 649 00:28:54,067 --> 00:28:56,945 Like, I don't really know if I'm up for that. 650 00:28:57,028 --> 00:28:58,697 It was like, something I was 651 00:28:58,738 --> 00:29:01,116 wanting to be up for if I needed to. 652 00:29:01,199 --> 00:29:03,993 You know what I mean when I say, like, you know, 653 00:29:04,035 --> 00:29:05,954 I talked to Whitney, and it was a good conversation. 654 00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:08,123 She was helpful for me, and it was just helpful to have 655 00:29:08,206 --> 00:29:10,375 somebody else acknowledge what I was going through. 656 00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:11,334 And he was like, well, you shouldn't be talking 657 00:29:11,418 --> 00:29:13,461 to anybody about this. 658 00:29:15,422 --> 00:29:18,508 Those things are hard for me. 659 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:20,343 We're at a place where it's not just me forgiving him 660 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:22,470 or understanding him or trying to move forward. 661 00:29:22,554 --> 00:29:24,389 He's now saying he doesn't want to talk about it. 662 00:29:24,472 --> 00:29:26,516 I can't talk about it to my friends. 663 00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:28,852 I can't share public, like, I started to feel 664 00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:30,937 isolated around the choices that he was making. 665 00:29:30,979 --> 00:29:32,731 Did he want you to quit the show? 666 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:35,567 He never said that but I felt like if I kept doing the show, 667 00:29:35,734 --> 00:29:38,028 the spotlight on the cracks in our marriage was just gonna 668 00:29:38,153 --> 00:29:40,321 continue to be magnified. 669 00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:43,658 And if I can't talk about them to him, to anybody else, 670 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,118 it was like I just had to deal with it. 671 00:29:45,243 --> 00:29:46,578 We weren't working forward anymore. 672 00:29:46,661 --> 00:29:49,706 We weren't a team anymore. I was just 673 00:29:49,748 --> 00:29:51,833 like PR for him, 674 00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:55,962 and it no longer felt respectful. 675 00:29:56,004 --> 00:29:58,840 And it's really hard to separate 676 00:29:58,882 --> 00:30:01,634 that interaction I have with Todd this year 677 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,387 from the Todd I've known for over a decade. 678 00:30:04,512 --> 00:30:06,598 And I think while we were 679 00:30:06,681 --> 00:30:08,516 filming, I kept thinking, this is a dance I've 680 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,227 danced maybe too many times. 681 00:30:11,311 --> 00:30:15,148 How I show up to rally around the choices that Todd makes. 682 00:30:15,231 --> 00:30:18,943 On behalf of Todd, not on behalf of myself. 683 00:30:20,153 --> 00:30:22,781 What was his reaction to your 684 00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:24,949 calling for a separation? 685 00:30:25,033 --> 00:30:27,327 It was maybe the worst thing I've ever done was 686 00:30:27,369 --> 00:30:30,413 having to tell Todd I wanted him to go. 687 00:30:30,538 --> 00:30:31,915 I feel like he doesn't really understand why 688 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,459 we're in this position. 689 00:30:35,126 --> 00:30:39,214 Todd, after a couple of days, texted me and said 690 00:30:39,297 --> 00:30:41,091 I watched the entirety of the show. 691 00:30:41,257 --> 00:30:44,761 He started at season one. He watched every episode. 692 00:30:44,844 --> 00:30:49,557 He read everything on Reddit within search of his name, got 693 00:30:49,641 --> 00:30:53,978 a Twitter account, looked on Instagram, and was just 694 00:30:54,104 --> 00:30:58,525 a decimated version of himself. Called me beside himself. 695 00:31:05,699 --> 00:31:08,576 Are you living with him? 696 00:31:09,202 --> 00:31:11,746 Where are you both living right now? 697 00:31:11,788 --> 00:31:14,582 So I'm in Utah and he's here in New York. 698 00:31:16,084 --> 00:31:17,794 You won't see him while you're here? 699 00:31:17,961 --> 00:31:21,965 I'm not seeing him while I'm here for this. No. 700 00:31:22,090 --> 00:31:24,843 Whitney, you're really emotional hearing about this. 701 00:31:25,010 --> 00:31:27,012 What are you thinking? 702 00:31:32,642 --> 00:31:35,145 I just relate so much to Bronwyn, and it's 703 00:31:35,228 --> 00:31:36,563 especially hard. 704 00:31:38,064 --> 00:31:39,649 And I'm just personally going through 705 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:40,942 something really hard myself. 706 00:31:45,488 --> 00:31:50,201 But I'm on the reverse. I'm on the reverse of Bronwyn. 707 00:31:56,916 --> 00:31:59,169 So that's why I'm so emotional, because I'm, like, relating. 708 00:31:59,210 --> 00:32:02,547 It's not because Justin's like, the most incredible, 709 00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:05,508 incredible husband. He's the most incredible man alive. 710 00:32:05,550 --> 00:32:07,052 He's so amazing, 711 00:32:07,218 --> 00:32:10,305 and I'm the one on the show that's always fucking it up. 712 00:32:10,430 --> 00:32:11,806 It's not true. 713 00:32:13,266 --> 00:32:15,852 The dynamic is hard, and unless 714 00:32:15,977 --> 00:32:17,812 you're in it, you know it's hard to understand. 715 00:32:24,903 --> 00:32:26,696 Can I have a minute? 716 00:32:26,780 --> 00:32:28,656 -Yeah. -Thank you. 717 00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:42,337 I just need to see Justin. 718 00:33:01,314 --> 00:33:05,318 Bronwyn just told us that her and Todd are separated, 719 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,738 and it just triggered me. -I'm sorry. 720 00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:10,699 I don't know. It's just like everything we're going 721 00:33:10,782 --> 00:33:13,493 through, I just feel so bad. 722 00:33:14,369 --> 00:33:17,330 I tried to keep it together, but I... 723 00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:21,001 You're strong. You got this. 724 00:33:21,084 --> 00:33:26,506 We're good. You know we're good, right? 725 00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:30,844 We'll figure it out. 726 00:33:34,806 --> 00:33:39,602 You know, I will say in the midst of a lot of... 727 00:33:40,020 --> 00:33:43,231 pain, there clearly is a lot of love between the two of you. 728 00:33:43,356 --> 00:33:44,357 I adore Todd. 729 00:33:44,441 --> 00:33:46,484 I'm so worried about Todd. 730 00:33:46,609 --> 00:33:48,445 The worst thing for Todd, he said, 731 00:33:48,528 --> 00:33:50,488 was watching the show. 732 00:33:50,739 --> 00:33:52,198 He said, do you feel like I never 733 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,491 look at you when I talk to you? 734 00:33:53,658 --> 00:33:54,659 When you talk to me? 735 00:33:54,701 --> 00:33:56,244 He says, did you feel like me 736 00:33:56,369 --> 00:33:57,662 taking the cherry was like, this huge thing? 737 00:33:57,746 --> 00:33:59,748 Like he was genuinely confused. 738 00:33:59,914 --> 00:34:02,834 Yes, taking the cherry was a huge thing. 739 00:34:02,959 --> 00:34:05,295 He thinks that we have a history 740 00:34:05,378 --> 00:34:08,465 where he has shown up for me and loved me and been my friend 741 00:34:08,631 --> 00:34:13,720 and been my supporter and so who cares if he ate a cherry? 742 00:34:14,095 --> 00:34:15,555 Who cares if he didn't look at me in 743 00:34:15,722 --> 00:34:18,224 the eye that one conversation. 744 00:34:18,391 --> 00:34:20,518 That seems like a normal guy. 745 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,355 -Yeah. -I mean, I -- 746 00:34:24,064 --> 00:34:25,106 I'm from a different planet because I thought that was cute 747 00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:27,484 that he took the cherry right after she said, 748 00:34:27,650 --> 00:34:28,943 don't touch the cherry. It's my favorite part. 749 00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:30,445 Mary, I didn't think that was so cute. 750 00:34:30,570 --> 00:34:32,405 Kind of. 751 00:34:32,447 --> 00:34:33,573 I didn't think it was that cute. 752 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:35,658 I didn't think he meant harm. 753 00:34:35,742 --> 00:34:38,995 -Might have been light. -Like. Yeah. If Robert Sr. 754 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,581 did that hat was a joke just would have took it. 755 00:34:41,664 --> 00:34:45,126 If I asked you if you felt that the show 756 00:34:45,251 --> 00:34:47,420 broke you up, you would say, what? 757 00:34:47,545 --> 00:34:49,464 The show didn't break us up. 758 00:34:49,547 --> 00:34:52,509 I would say we were growing in different 759 00:34:52,634 --> 00:34:56,888 directions and the show put a spotlight on that. 760 00:34:57,472 --> 00:34:59,474 I think as hard as this 761 00:34:59,557 --> 00:35:00,975 is right now, this conversation with Todd needed 762 00:35:01,017 --> 00:35:03,561 to happen. 763 00:35:05,897 --> 00:35:08,191 The show didn't cause this. 764 00:35:08,274 --> 00:35:10,568 Might have sped it up. 765 00:35:10,735 --> 00:35:13,113 Whitney, are you okay? 766 00:35:14,531 --> 00:35:16,032 Sorry. 767 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:19,828 I relate with her so much because I know how hard 768 00:35:19,953 --> 00:35:23,123 it is to fight for something that you love 769 00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:26,334 so much, but sometimes just -- 770 00:35:28,461 --> 00:35:30,588 you can't figure it out. 771 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:37,470 -Yeah. -I feel for you. 772 00:35:37,554 --> 00:35:39,180 Thank you. 773 00:35:39,264 --> 00:35:44,185 In the best universe, would your future involve him? 774 00:35:46,187 --> 00:35:48,898 I don't know. I don't know what to say. 775 00:35:48,982 --> 00:35:52,110 I think we just gotta see what happens from here. 776 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:54,863 -Take your time. -Space is good. 777 00:35:55,488 --> 00:35:58,533 -Yeah. -Well, thank you for sharing 778 00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:00,827 tonight and... 779 00:36:02,495 --> 00:36:04,956 I wish you a lot of strength. 780 00:36:07,625 --> 00:36:09,252 It's gonna work out. You're gonna find the answer. 781 00:36:09,294 --> 00:36:11,713 -Yeah, I know. -You know. 782 00:36:26,144 --> 00:36:27,395 -You guys doing okay? -Yeah, good. I'm good. 783 00:36:28,438 --> 00:36:31,816 -Everyone looks gorgeous. -You do, too. 784 00:36:33,234 --> 00:36:34,527 We are back with "The Real Housewives 785 00:36:34,611 --> 00:36:37,238 of Salt Lake City" reunion. 786 00:36:37,364 --> 00:36:40,241 Before I get into questions about Greece, Meredith 787 00:36:40,283 --> 00:36:43,244 and Heather, where do you two stand today? 788 00:36:43,328 --> 00:36:47,624 Yeah, we're not friends right now. I mean, we're -- 789 00:36:47,707 --> 00:36:51,628 Told me that three times just at this reunion, so I guess not. 790 00:36:51,711 --> 00:36:54,130 I mean, I'm hoping for resolve, but I don't think there can 791 00:36:54,214 --> 00:36:56,424 be any resolve without 792 00:36:56,549 --> 00:37:00,095 an apology or just a level of accountability 793 00:37:00,220 --> 00:37:01,888 that we've all had to take, you know? 794 00:37:01,971 --> 00:37:04,140 Absolutely. And I'd be happy to talk with 795 00:37:04,224 --> 00:37:08,061 you about the you lied or liar comment or whatever. 796 00:37:08,186 --> 00:37:09,854 You lied. You just pointed at me and said 797 00:37:09,938 --> 00:37:14,693 that I lied and I didn't lie. -I did do that and, um, 798 00:37:15,151 --> 00:37:18,113 and I'm sorry I did that. It wasn't actually intended to 799 00:37:18,196 --> 00:37:21,116 be at you, and that's why I stumbled with it for so long. 800 00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:25,328 You lied. You lied and all said horrible about me 801 00:37:25,453 --> 00:37:28,832 that didn't happen. -Do you believe I lied? 802 00:37:28,957 --> 00:37:32,794 Fuck that. 803 00:37:32,919 --> 00:37:35,588 So you were saying that Heather and 804 00:37:35,672 --> 00:37:37,507 Whitney lied about what happened on the plane. 805 00:37:37,632 --> 00:37:41,136 That's what I said, but I meant to say Whitney and Britani. 806 00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:43,972 Why didn't you, in the moment correct the fact that 807 00:37:44,097 --> 00:37:45,598 you were pointing at the wrong person. 808 00:37:45,682 --> 00:37:48,601 Well, I tried to. I did try to. 809 00:37:48,643 --> 00:37:51,396 I didn't say you. You. You is what I said. 810 00:37:51,479 --> 00:37:53,773 It sounds like you pointed three times. 811 00:37:53,857 --> 00:37:55,692 -She did. -Because Britani just said it. 812 00:37:55,775 --> 00:37:58,236 She's a real reliable source. 813 00:37:58,319 --> 00:37:59,195 No, because they told me in my ear. 814 00:37:59,279 --> 00:38:00,780 -Oh, they did. -Yeah. 815 00:38:00,864 --> 00:38:03,074 I don't recollect pointing three times, 816 00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:05,744 but I didn't mean to point at Heather as a bottom line. 817 00:38:05,827 --> 00:38:06,911 And did you believe I'm a liar? 818 00:38:06,953 --> 00:38:09,581 And I did point at you and I did say. 819 00:38:09,664 --> 00:38:10,665 But you don't believe that about me. 820 00:38:10,832 --> 00:38:13,168 I didn't at the time, but I don't know. 821 00:38:13,251 --> 00:38:15,253 I have some question marks on some things I'll be 822 00:38:15,337 --> 00:38:16,463 totally honest. 823 00:38:16,588 --> 00:38:20,050 There's some trust that has to be rebuilt 824 00:38:20,133 --> 00:38:21,926 on both sides. 825 00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:24,929 Amen, girl. Amen. 826 00:38:25,013 --> 00:38:27,015 Britani, why were you so offended when 827 00:38:27,098 --> 00:38:29,476 Meredith was talking to her son on Mother's Day? 828 00:38:29,517 --> 00:38:32,312 I just thought it was rude because we're 829 00:38:32,395 --> 00:38:34,397 all desperate to talk to our kids, and it was 830 00:38:34,481 --> 00:38:36,274 right in the middle when she was in the hot seat. 831 00:38:36,358 --> 00:38:38,485 And it's something that if I had done, 832 00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:41,905 I would have been destroyed. 833 00:38:42,030 --> 00:38:45,158 Was it a big problem for everybody else or just Britani? 834 00:38:45,283 --> 00:38:46,743 -I was irritated by it. -You were. 835 00:38:46,826 --> 00:38:48,870 We were all there on Mother's Day. 836 00:38:48,995 --> 00:38:51,456 Like, when I heard you were kind of losing it over 837 00:38:51,539 --> 00:38:52,874 not talking to Brooks, I was like -- 838 00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:54,250 That's not why I was really losing it over that. 839 00:38:54,334 --> 00:38:56,503 Why were you losing it? 840 00:38:56,544 --> 00:38:58,046 You know what? It's another issue that's just 841 00:38:58,171 --> 00:39:01,216 not really ever going to go anywhere. 842 00:39:01,299 --> 00:39:03,259 No, tell me if I don't understand. 843 00:39:03,343 --> 00:39:06,805 You were mad at production about something. 844 00:39:06,888 --> 00:39:08,390 What this time? 845 00:39:09,307 --> 00:39:11,726 You know what? This is, like, a lot. It's just. 846 00:39:11,810 --> 00:39:14,688 This is not gonna go well. -Okay. 847 00:39:14,771 --> 00:39:17,482 I actually have a big problem with this. 848 00:39:17,607 --> 00:39:20,110 All day, I've heard you throw production under the bus. 849 00:39:20,235 --> 00:39:23,905 This was a full setup that I was tracking all the way through. 850 00:39:23,988 --> 00:39:25,490 It was about feeling set up. 851 00:39:25,573 --> 00:39:27,033 Production. -Correct. 852 00:39:27,075 --> 00:39:28,576 It just got edited out. 853 00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:31,788 What do you want me to do? I don't want to. 854 00:39:31,871 --> 00:39:33,289 I'm telling the truth. 855 00:39:33,373 --> 00:39:35,625 And they impacted my behavior. 856 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:37,669 Everyone on this couch, there's a second half 857 00:39:37,752 --> 00:39:40,171 to why we were recognized in Us Weekly. 858 00:39:40,213 --> 00:39:41,589 -Yep. -Yeah, of course. 859 00:39:41,673 --> 00:39:43,717 There's an entire team behind the scenes, and I've 860 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,552 been hearing you all day under your breath 861 00:39:45,593 --> 00:39:46,886 throw them under the bus. 862 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:50,140 I've heard you all day throw them under the bus. 863 00:39:50,223 --> 00:39:52,100 You are a liar, Meredith. 864 00:39:52,183 --> 00:39:55,687 You are lying. Call me a liar all you want. You are lying. 865 00:39:55,812 --> 00:39:58,148 And I'm so sick of you for throwing our team under the bus. 866 00:39:58,273 --> 00:40:02,152 'Cause I have opened up my life because of our team. 867 00:40:02,277 --> 00:40:04,738 And for you to sit here and throw them under the bus. 868 00:40:04,821 --> 00:40:06,614 -Mary, why are you crying? -Because I don't want. 869 00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:08,908 I don't like that she would talk about 870 00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:10,577 our production. -I don't like it either. 871 00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:11,911 And I've said something too. 872 00:40:11,995 --> 00:40:13,621 We're only here because of them. 873 00:40:13,747 --> 00:40:17,834 -What did I say that was bad? -When we're at work, 874 00:40:17,917 --> 00:40:19,044 it's expected that we're not on our phones. 875 00:40:19,127 --> 00:40:20,670 We're engaged in the conversations. 876 00:40:20,712 --> 00:40:23,423 -I mean, we were in Greece. -No, but what set you all 877 00:40:23,548 --> 00:40:25,592 off about her being on her phone? 878 00:40:25,675 --> 00:40:27,677 Because she was getting out of being in the hot seat. 879 00:40:27,761 --> 00:40:30,805 Yes. It was just an excuse. 880 00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:33,183 Couldn't pick it back up in three to five minutes. 881 00:40:33,308 --> 00:40:36,102 No, because then you victimize yourself and make us feel bad. 882 00:40:36,144 --> 00:40:39,314 Like how are we going to now bring it back up? 883 00:40:39,439 --> 00:40:41,608 When Meredith is sad, that's what you do. 884 00:40:41,691 --> 00:40:42,609 I wouldn't have been sad if I had just sat 885 00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:44,736 and talked to my son, maybe. 886 00:40:44,819 --> 00:40:46,905 There's always some grand big thing that happens, then 887 00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:48,698 we can't bring it up, Meredith. 888 00:40:48,782 --> 00:40:52,077 Meredith, what was your reaction when you saw Whitney, Mary and 889 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:57,374 Bronwyn express their concerns about your mood swings? 890 00:40:57,457 --> 00:41:01,419 It made me sad that they were concerned about me. 891 00:41:01,461 --> 00:41:04,339 On that sense, of course, very sad. 892 00:41:04,422 --> 00:41:06,925 But there's just not truth to it. 893 00:41:06,966 --> 00:41:08,802 I'm a little worried about Meredith. 894 00:41:08,843 --> 00:41:11,137 -I'm worried too. -Do you feel a fear from her 895 00:41:11,179 --> 00:41:13,056 when you talk to her? It's like she's scared 896 00:41:13,139 --> 00:41:14,265 to death of something. 897 00:41:14,349 --> 00:41:17,143 We all see it, but what saddens 898 00:41:17,268 --> 00:41:20,772 me is that she doesn't. -Oh, Mary. 899 00:41:20,897 --> 00:41:23,817 Whitney, you apologized to Meredith for accusing her of 900 00:41:23,858 --> 00:41:27,737 abusing substances, but you later doubled down 901 00:41:27,821 --> 00:41:30,657 on your own experience with your dad as it related 902 00:41:30,699 --> 00:41:34,661 to things that you were seeing with Meredith. 903 00:41:34,744 --> 00:41:38,331 So I guess why apologize if you didn't mean it? 904 00:41:38,456 --> 00:41:41,167 I apologize for labeling her that. 905 00:41:41,251 --> 00:41:44,879 Cause the truth is, I don't know what Meredith is going through. 906 00:41:44,921 --> 00:41:47,173 None of us were saying you're an addict, you have mental 907 00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:49,217 health struggles, you have cheating in your marriage. 908 00:41:49,342 --> 00:41:52,470 That's not how it came off on camera. 909 00:41:52,554 --> 00:41:53,805 How do you think it came off on camera? 910 00:41:53,847 --> 00:41:55,890 That they were making accusations. 911 00:41:55,974 --> 00:41:57,559 No, I wasn't. 912 00:41:57,684 --> 00:42:00,395 I said very clearly, this is how I handle it. 913 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,897 -This is how I feel. -With tears and concern. 914 00:42:02,981 --> 00:42:04,149 We're all different people. 915 00:42:04,274 --> 00:42:07,027 All we said is we're concerned about you. 916 00:42:07,152 --> 00:42:08,153 I didn't make a single accusation. 917 00:42:08,278 --> 00:42:09,863 I spoke from my own experience. 918 00:42:09,946 --> 00:42:10,989 You did make an accusation. 919 00:42:11,114 --> 00:42:12,657 What accusation did I make? 920 00:42:12,782 --> 00:42:14,075 That my husband was on a date. 921 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,119 I said at least two or three times. 922 00:42:16,202 --> 00:42:17,370 I don't know who he was with. 923 00:42:17,454 --> 00:42:18,955 It is not my place to say. 924 00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,041 You haven't seen where Todd and I both said, 925 00:42:21,166 --> 00:42:23,293 there is no way that's what's going on. 926 00:42:23,418 --> 00:42:26,588 But what we both said was if Todd was out and one of you had 927 00:42:26,713 --> 00:42:29,549 seen Todd, that would have been what was run with. 928 00:42:29,632 --> 00:42:32,218 I have never said anything about Todd, Bronwyn. 929 00:42:32,302 --> 00:42:34,929 No, but you sat idly by while your bestie has over and 930 00:42:35,013 --> 00:42:36,306 over and over again, 931 00:42:36,389 --> 00:42:38,016 and it wasn't a problem that my marriage was 932 00:42:38,141 --> 00:42:40,518 talked about until this one talked about your marriage. 933 00:42:40,602 --> 00:42:43,813 Did I ever contribute to saying 934 00:42:43,897 --> 00:42:45,190 anything about your marriage? 935 00:42:45,273 --> 00:42:47,859 You didn't contribute to stopping it. 936 00:42:47,901 --> 00:42:50,070 You never once were outraged that how dare 937 00:42:50,195 --> 00:42:51,446 we speak about someone's marriage 938 00:42:51,529 --> 00:42:54,032 and make an unfounded accusation. 939 00:42:54,074 --> 00:42:55,825 Until it was your marriage that had 940 00:42:55,867 --> 00:42:56,993 an unfounded accusation. 941 00:42:57,077 --> 00:42:58,953 You were handling it. 942 00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,538 Why would I speak up at that moment? 943 00:43:00,663 --> 00:43:03,124 You know why, Meredith. I thought we were fucking friends. 944 00:43:03,208 --> 00:43:04,459 That's why. 945 00:43:07,629 --> 00:43:09,798 And you want to get into the you and me not being friends or 946 00:43:09,881 --> 00:43:11,800 being friends or I'm just your fucking assistant. 947 00:43:11,883 --> 00:43:13,760 Let's get into that. I'm sure that's what's next. 948 00:43:13,843 --> 00:43:16,054 I don't think I've asked you to do much. 949 00:43:16,137 --> 00:43:17,764 I don't think you asked me to do much. 950 00:43:17,847 --> 00:43:19,265 Just report back to you on what all my 951 00:43:19,391 --> 00:43:21,142 conversations were with everyone. 952 00:43:21,226 --> 00:43:23,728 And then sit there and eat shit when you out me in 953 00:43:23,812 --> 00:43:25,897 front of everybody else and then be like, oh, that was 954 00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:28,149 off camera, we can never prove it. Convenient, Meredith. 955 00:43:28,233 --> 00:43:29,734 I didn't say we didn't 956 00:43:29,818 --> 00:43:30,944 have a conversation with my room. 957 00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:34,989 We have a disagreement on what was said exactly. 958 00:43:35,115 --> 00:43:37,534 I valued our friendship this year, and I think you 959 00:43:37,659 --> 00:43:39,160 and I have a lot in common and could be good friends. 960 00:43:39,285 --> 00:43:40,620 And I would love for that to happen. 961 00:43:40,745 --> 00:43:42,831 But today you are not gonna 962 00:43:42,914 --> 00:43:45,291 do this question or statement bullshit with me. 963 00:43:45,417 --> 00:43:46,710 You're not gonna do it. -No, we're not. 964 00:43:46,835 --> 00:43:49,170 We're gonna have to have some come to Bronwyn 965 00:43:49,295 --> 00:43:51,548 and Meredith conversation about what happened. 966 00:43:51,673 --> 00:43:53,883 All of us have to sit here and have hard conversations. 967 00:43:53,967 --> 00:43:55,844 Why are you above it? 968 00:43:55,969 --> 00:43:57,971 Sit the fuck down and talk through it with us. 969 00:44:09,107 --> 00:44:10,525 All of us have to sit here and have hard conversations. 970 00:44:11,151 --> 00:44:12,902 Why are you above it? 971 00:44:12,986 --> 00:44:14,821 Sit the fuck down and talk through it with us. 972 00:44:14,904 --> 00:44:15,947 Don't talk to me that way. 973 00:44:16,072 --> 00:44:17,824 I absolutely will. 974 00:44:17,907 --> 00:44:19,909 You talked that way to me when I came to your room 975 00:44:20,035 --> 00:44:22,245 ranting and raving that this was all happening. 976 00:44:22,370 --> 00:44:24,247 Here we go. I told you to sit the fuck down? 977 00:44:24,330 --> 00:44:25,540 No, I didn't. -No, Meredith. 978 00:44:25,623 --> 00:44:26,750 But you scared me into your sink. 979 00:44:26,875 --> 00:44:28,251 You were yelling at me. 980 00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:32,380 What was happening? 981 00:44:32,464 --> 00:44:34,549 Meredith said she never asked you about the lunch. 982 00:44:34,674 --> 00:44:36,092 She really -- 983 00:44:36,384 --> 00:44:38,595 We did have a conversation about the lunch, but I didn't ask her. 984 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,263 You asked me and I didn't 985 00:44:40,388 --> 00:44:41,556 want to tell you what happened at our lunch. 986 00:44:41,598 --> 00:44:42,849 And I said. -I said, how was your lunch? 987 00:44:42,891 --> 00:44:45,685 Sure. I didn't say, what was everyone saying? 988 00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:47,228 Oh, my God. 989 00:44:47,854 --> 00:44:49,189 I didn't ask what anyone said. 990 00:44:49,272 --> 00:44:50,357 I don't care. That's what you're not getting. 991 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,567 Bronwyn, would you feel used by Meredith. 992 00:44:52,692 --> 00:44:54,903 I do. 993 00:44:54,986 --> 00:44:58,156 Meredith, what's your response to her feeling used by you? 994 00:44:58,281 --> 00:45:00,867 I'm not using you and I am not trying 995 00:45:00,992 --> 00:45:03,536 to gain anything from you at all. 996 00:45:03,578 --> 00:45:05,163 So you didn't gain the upper hand when 997 00:45:05,205 --> 00:45:06,873 I said to you, there's an accusation about 998 00:45:06,998 --> 00:45:10,627 you that I feel is a dangerous implication. 999 00:45:10,752 --> 00:45:14,005 You volunteered that to me, Bronwyn, gained the upper hand. 1000 00:45:14,047 --> 00:45:16,508 That's fair. Yes, I did. 1001 00:45:16,591 --> 00:45:17,717 Instead of just being prepared to handle 1002 00:45:17,842 --> 00:45:19,844 that conversation you deflected from having 1003 00:45:19,969 --> 00:45:21,846 to answer for that by saying Whitney should really be -- 1004 00:45:21,971 --> 00:45:25,809 -Information is power. -Correct. 1005 00:45:25,934 --> 00:45:28,603 You put words in my mouth when you talked to Lisa about Britani 1006 00:45:28,728 --> 00:45:30,188 and then the two of you turned it into 1007 00:45:30,271 --> 00:45:32,440 she's an alcoholic and a little birdie told me. 1008 00:45:35,652 --> 00:45:38,071 There are people on this couch who deal with those addictions. 1009 00:45:38,113 --> 00:45:42,117 Stop it. -I was told that she was 1010 00:45:42,242 --> 00:45:45,078 nonstop drinking all day and night 1011 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,414 to the point of vomiting, would go, throw up. 1012 00:45:47,497 --> 00:45:48,665 And then just start drinking over again. 1013 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,628 -That's like an alcoholic. -It's clearly unusual behavior. 1014 00:45:53,712 --> 00:45:57,340 I have a problem with that because for weeks, for 1015 00:45:57,424 --> 00:46:00,760 weeks, I could not get Meredith to accept a conversation me. 1016 00:46:00,844 --> 00:46:03,263 But then they turn around, call her an alcoholic. 1017 00:46:03,304 --> 00:46:04,222 I didn't call her an alcoholic. 1018 00:46:04,264 --> 00:46:06,433 But this is the problem. 1019 00:46:06,516 --> 00:46:10,020 This is the problem. You talk to me off camera or 1020 00:46:10,145 --> 00:46:11,146 you text me to come to your room where there's 1021 00:46:11,187 --> 00:46:12,605 no cameras, or I see you with your hand 1022 00:46:12,731 --> 00:46:14,399 over your mouth in the sprinter telling Heather, 1023 00:46:14,524 --> 00:46:17,694 let's talk privately, or I called you when we weren't. 1024 00:46:17,777 --> 00:46:19,654 I know it's getting recorded. 1025 00:46:19,738 --> 00:46:21,156 She wanted a one on one. 1026 00:46:21,281 --> 00:46:23,033 I wanted to talk to her one on one on one. 1027 00:46:23,116 --> 00:46:25,118 -I didn't want it. -That's 100% true. I did. 1028 00:46:25,201 --> 00:46:26,953 I wanted to get resolution 1029 00:46:26,995 --> 00:46:28,538 and every time I tried to in the group, 1030 00:46:28,580 --> 00:46:30,790 everyone was yelling and screaming, and I couldn't. 1031 00:46:30,874 --> 00:46:32,250 That feels convenient to me. 1032 00:46:32,375 --> 00:46:35,170 It feels like you do stuff off camera so that when it comes 1033 00:46:35,253 --> 00:46:37,630 up on camera, you can say, that's not what I said. 1034 00:46:37,714 --> 00:46:39,758 That's not what happened. And no one can prove it. 1035 00:46:39,841 --> 00:46:41,676 Bronwyn, in case it didn't land, 1036 00:46:41,801 --> 00:46:43,345 because I feel like we got sidetracked, 1037 00:46:43,470 --> 00:46:46,389 I would never want you to feel that I was using you. 1038 00:46:46,431 --> 00:46:50,018 I'm not using you. I'm sorry that it came off that I was. 1039 00:46:50,143 --> 00:46:52,145 I want to be very clear. 1040 00:46:52,228 --> 00:46:55,774 I do not want you to feel that way and I'm sorry. 1041 00:46:56,733 --> 00:46:58,109 Do you accept her apology? 1042 00:46:58,193 --> 00:47:00,362 I do. And I appreciate you saying it. 1043 00:47:00,487 --> 00:47:03,198 All right, Angie, why did you hire 1044 00:47:03,323 --> 00:47:07,369 Stella to write the play about you and your friends? 1045 00:47:07,410 --> 00:47:10,538 Well, sometimes we only retain what we want to retain, 1046 00:47:10,622 --> 00:47:13,291 so I think it's really important to see ourselves 1047 00:47:13,416 --> 00:47:14,876 through the eyes of our friends. 1048 00:47:14,959 --> 00:47:17,253 What a Greek tragedy it was. 1049 00:47:17,337 --> 00:47:18,630 -It really was. -Oh, my God. 1050 00:47:18,755 --> 00:47:20,715 Angie and Lisa, you two had an emotional 1051 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,050 moment after the play. 1052 00:47:22,175 --> 00:47:23,968 It seems like you bicker like sisters, 1053 00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:26,096 but you always come back 1054 00:47:26,221 --> 00:47:28,348 around like sisters, too. 1055 00:47:28,431 --> 00:47:31,518 What's your relationship been like since Greece? 1056 00:47:31,643 --> 00:47:34,354 Has it been okay? -I'll let you go first. 1057 00:47:35,647 --> 00:47:38,566 You know, when I saw Angie at the US Weekly shoot, 1058 00:47:38,692 --> 00:47:39,651 like, I just went right up to her. 1059 00:47:39,776 --> 00:47:41,528 I feel like I can be super 1060 00:47:41,653 --> 00:47:43,822 myself with her and direct. 1061 00:47:43,905 --> 00:47:46,366 And I was like, hey, like, this bugs me. 1062 00:47:46,491 --> 00:47:48,576 Like, you don't need to say this. 1063 00:47:48,702 --> 00:47:50,537 I'm telling you to your face this. 1064 00:47:50,662 --> 00:47:52,038 And then I feel a soft spot. 1065 00:47:52,163 --> 00:47:54,290 Like, I did an interview, and they were asking me 1066 00:47:54,374 --> 00:47:57,293 questions about Angie, and I'm like, I won't talk about her. 1067 00:47:57,377 --> 00:47:59,295 She's off limits. I'm not talking about her. 1068 00:47:59,379 --> 00:48:00,630 I'm not saying anything mean. 1069 00:48:00,672 --> 00:48:02,340 I'm not going there. 1070 00:48:02,382 --> 00:48:04,050 I'm just not going to. 1071 00:48:04,134 --> 00:48:06,970 And then, you know, my feelings got hurt when I heard what Angie 1072 00:48:07,095 --> 00:48:10,765 said, and I feel like, you know, I want resolve and, 1073 00:48:10,890 --> 00:48:11,766 like, to move forward. 1074 00:48:11,850 --> 00:48:12,851 And then it's like. 1075 00:48:12,976 --> 00:48:14,269 It's like a hamster wheel. 1076 00:48:14,352 --> 00:48:15,687 Two steps forward, two steps back. 1077 00:48:15,770 --> 00:48:17,605 Yeah, and it's like we just stay on this hamster wheel, 1078 00:48:17,731 --> 00:48:19,482 and I just kind of am, like, dizzy. 1079 00:48:19,607 --> 00:48:20,692 I just, you know. 1080 00:48:20,734 --> 00:48:23,194 What did Angie say that you heard? 1081 00:48:23,278 --> 00:48:25,613 What did she say that you heard? 1082 00:48:25,739 --> 00:48:28,450 Did you ask her if she said it? -I listened to it. 1083 00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:30,785 -What is it? -I'm ruining the show. 1084 00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:33,079 And I'm not this and I'm not that. 1085 00:48:33,121 --> 00:48:35,415 Sometimes it's hard to be your friend because I feel 1086 00:48:35,457 --> 00:48:39,044 like your expectations could be unreal. 1087 00:48:39,085 --> 00:48:42,297 And I feel like my expectation is like, let's laugh together. 1088 00:48:42,339 --> 00:48:46,760 I make a concerted effort to go deeper with you. 1089 00:48:46,885 --> 00:48:48,553 I like to talk to you about 1090 00:48:48,636 --> 00:48:50,388 emotional things and sensitive things. 1091 00:48:50,472 --> 00:48:52,932 Everything from, like, God, our kids, 1092 00:48:53,016 --> 00:48:56,644 Louie, your mom, experiences, like, real experiences. 1093 00:48:56,686 --> 00:48:59,064 So for me, when we're friends, I'm feeling like, 1094 00:48:59,105 --> 00:49:00,231 oh, we're really friends. 1095 00:49:00,273 --> 00:49:02,525 And it's not superficial. 1096 00:49:02,609 --> 00:49:04,986 You talk about superficial, but you sometimes do lead with, 1097 00:49:05,111 --> 00:49:08,239 like, your stuff and who you are and you love things, 1098 00:49:08,323 --> 00:49:11,284 but you have another side to you that is very lovable. 1099 00:49:11,368 --> 00:49:12,994 Okay. You say that, and I want you more of that. 1100 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:15,080 You say that, but I really don't. 1101 00:49:15,205 --> 00:49:18,208 In Greece, you said you wanted to be vulnerable, like, 1102 00:49:18,291 --> 00:49:20,001 watching what you went through last season. 1103 00:49:20,043 --> 00:49:22,587 It was hard. Watching you have that conversation with John was 1104 00:49:22,671 --> 00:49:25,799 hard and that was like, the side of you that I love. 1105 00:49:25,882 --> 00:49:27,926 Really, really hard. It's really super defensive. 1106 00:49:27,967 --> 00:49:29,344 But look at our conversations. 1107 00:49:29,427 --> 00:49:31,429 Angie, the proof is in the pudding. 1108 00:49:31,554 --> 00:49:33,848 I want to move forward with you. 1109 00:49:33,973 --> 00:49:35,350 I just don't want to go backwards. 1110 00:49:35,433 --> 00:49:37,977 There's no point in us going 1111 00:49:38,061 --> 00:49:39,396 backwards a day from today. 1112 00:49:39,521 --> 00:49:41,606 It's so tit for tat, tit for tat, tit for tat. 1113 00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:43,233 You are going to move forward. 1114 00:49:43,358 --> 00:49:44,734 I will never bring up anything from the past. 1115 00:49:44,818 --> 00:49:46,236 I can, like, forward, move straight today, 1116 00:49:46,361 --> 00:49:48,279 forward, and I'm very good at it. 1117 00:49:48,321 --> 00:49:50,281 I like this. -And I can, too. 1118 00:49:50,323 --> 00:49:51,408 Okay, my little Scorpio. 1119 00:49:51,825 --> 00:49:54,244 Well, we are going to leave it there and we're going to come 1120 00:49:54,369 --> 00:49:56,371 right back with closing 1121 00:49:56,454 --> 00:49:59,541 thoughts from season six of "The Real Housewives 1122 00:50:08,550 --> 00:50:09,217 We're almost there. 1123 00:50:10,427 --> 00:50:13,221 I'm going for those chocolate covered cherries. 1124 00:50:13,263 --> 00:50:15,056 -Those are olives, Britani. -Oh, they are? 1125 00:50:15,223 --> 00:50:17,308 I've been eyeballing those all night. 1126 00:50:17,392 --> 00:50:20,937 -Oh, my goodness, Britani. -My toes are numb. 1127 00:50:21,104 --> 00:50:23,314 Three, two, one... 1128 00:50:23,356 --> 00:50:27,902 We are back with final thoughts from the Salt Lake City reunion. 1129 00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:31,322 And I want to close on a positive note. 1130 00:50:31,406 --> 00:50:33,366 Let's go around and say one thing you learned 1131 00:50:33,408 --> 00:50:35,035 this season. Who wants to start? 1132 00:50:35,201 --> 00:50:36,619 -I can start. -Okay. Mary. 1133 00:50:36,661 --> 00:50:40,665 I learned that it's important to see yourself, and 1134 00:50:40,832 --> 00:50:45,170 I learned to put out the energy that you want to receive. 1135 00:50:45,253 --> 00:50:47,047 Great. Whitney. 1136 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,717 You had to learn something. 1137 00:50:50,884 --> 00:50:53,178 -I learned so much. -Good. 1138 00:50:53,762 --> 00:50:57,640 Failure is just the universe or God redirecting you. 1139 00:50:57,724 --> 00:50:59,309 Britani. 1140 00:51:00,477 --> 00:51:03,897 Patience and that usually if you just can ground yourself 1141 00:51:03,980 --> 00:51:07,984 and be patient, good things will come of that. 1142 00:51:08,026 --> 00:51:10,779 And to focus on the things that are most important. 1143 00:51:10,820 --> 00:51:11,988 Angie. 1144 00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:13,239 Probably acceptance. 1145 00:51:13,365 --> 00:51:15,158 You know, I think having a teenager 1146 00:51:15,283 --> 00:51:18,370 that's finding her way, not wanting it to be my way, 1147 00:51:18,411 --> 00:51:21,164 but being proud that I raised, you know, strong little girl. 1148 00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:24,125 That's becoming the woman that I have 1149 00:51:24,209 --> 00:51:26,044 strived my whole life to be. 1150 00:51:26,127 --> 00:51:27,545 Meredith. 1151 00:51:27,671 --> 00:51:30,215 I learned the importance of making 1152 00:51:30,256 --> 00:51:33,385 sure that you're communicating clearly with your friends and 1153 00:51:33,426 --> 00:51:36,012 that even if they're not really giving you the opportunity to 1154 00:51:36,054 --> 00:51:39,891 answer, you need to find a way to get your voice heard. 1155 00:51:39,933 --> 00:51:42,977 That's good. Heather. 1156 00:51:43,019 --> 00:51:44,688 Honestly, I mean, I don't know if I learned 1157 00:51:44,729 --> 00:51:46,898 this, but it really became crystal clear to me that, 1158 00:51:46,940 --> 00:51:51,319 like, the best moments of my life have been with you guys and 1159 00:51:51,361 --> 00:51:53,405 some of the darkest moments of my life. 1160 00:51:53,488 --> 00:51:55,657 -She looks at me. -That's neat. 1161 00:51:55,699 --> 00:51:58,410 -And that is pretty remarkable. -Yeah. 1162 00:51:58,535 --> 00:52:00,995 And when I say that, like, 1163 00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:02,956 I can give it all to these women, like, I really can, 1164 00:52:02,997 --> 00:52:04,082 I guess I just want to say, like, 1165 00:52:04,165 --> 00:52:06,835 how much I truly love and cherish 1166 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,170 our friendships, the highs and lows of them. 1167 00:52:09,254 --> 00:52:10,505 And when -- 1168 00:52:10,672 --> 00:52:12,507 when we have fun, we really do have fun. 1169 00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:15,135 We love each other. We do. -That's why we get so hurt. 1170 00:52:15,218 --> 00:52:17,846 -Yeah. -Bronwyn. 1171 00:52:20,140 --> 00:52:22,058 I think this season I... 1172 00:52:22,142 --> 00:52:23,268 really understood that 1173 00:52:23,351 --> 00:52:26,688 I feel sometimes change is negative, 1174 00:52:26,730 --> 00:52:28,273 means there's been a failure, an ending, 1175 00:52:28,314 --> 00:52:30,316 something you did wrong. 1176 00:52:30,358 --> 00:52:32,986 And change can be a good thing. 1177 00:52:33,028 --> 00:52:35,321 And change has to start with me. 1178 00:52:35,405 --> 00:52:37,699 I have to change the way I show up in some of these friendships. 1179 00:52:37,866 --> 00:52:39,617 I have to change the way I interact with 1180 00:52:39,784 --> 00:52:41,953 my mom, maybe with Todd. 1181 00:52:42,162 --> 00:52:46,041 I have to be good with Gwen doing change in her own life. 1182 00:52:46,124 --> 00:52:50,628 Good for you. Lisa. 1183 00:52:50,795 --> 00:52:51,588 You'll love this first one. 1184 00:52:51,629 --> 00:52:53,214 -Okay. -Intake. 1185 00:52:53,340 --> 00:52:54,424 Okay. 1186 00:52:54,507 --> 00:52:56,301 -Very important. -Good. 1187 00:52:56,384 --> 00:53:00,513 Really not just hearing, but really listening. 1188 00:53:00,597 --> 00:53:02,849 For understanding. 1189 00:53:02,891 --> 00:53:03,975 -That's great. -Moving forward. 1190 00:53:04,017 --> 00:53:06,186 -Yes. -Those are great. 1191 00:53:07,896 --> 00:53:09,731 Can't wait to see that in action. 1192 00:53:09,814 --> 00:53:12,567 Well, for our final toast, we have baklava here. 1193 00:53:12,609 --> 00:53:14,069 -Yes. -Angie. 1194 00:53:15,028 --> 00:53:17,072 Why don't you lead us? 1195 00:53:17,238 --> 00:53:18,615 Andy, you shouldn't have to serve us. 1196 00:53:18,698 --> 00:53:20,450 Girls, get your plates. 1197 00:53:20,492 --> 00:53:22,077 Andy, don't get. 1198 00:53:22,202 --> 00:53:24,204 I can't have sugars. -You are serving. 1199 00:53:24,287 --> 00:53:25,663 Oh, I was the best waiter. 1200 00:53:25,747 --> 00:53:27,248 -Were you a server? -Oh, yeah. 1201 00:53:27,332 --> 00:53:29,918 I bet you got the best tips. 1202 00:53:30,043 --> 00:53:32,212 -Oh, yeah. -Ooh, I bet this is good. 1203 00:53:32,253 --> 00:53:33,463 Oh, I thought you couldn't have. 1204 00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:35,090 I'm not gonna eat it, but it looks delicious. 1205 00:53:35,131 --> 00:53:38,593 Oh, okay. Yeah. Angie, lead us in a toast. 1206 00:53:38,677 --> 00:53:40,136 Well, we would always say to your health. 1207 00:53:40,261 --> 00:53:42,555 That's number one, right? 1208 00:53:42,681 --> 00:53:43,473 Your health is your wealth. 1209 00:53:43,556 --> 00:53:45,642 So cheers to another great year, 1210 00:53:45,767 --> 00:53:48,561 stronger friendships, and we're all the sisters 1211 00:53:48,645 --> 00:53:50,689 of salt are nothing without each other. 1212 00:53:50,730 --> 00:53:52,524 -I love that. -Well said. 1213 00:53:52,607 --> 00:53:54,567 -I love it. -Cheers, everyone. 1214 00:53:54,693 --> 00:53:55,944 I want to thank "the Real Housewives of 1215 00:53:56,111 --> 00:53:57,946 Salt Lake City" for another epic season. 1216 00:53:57,987 --> 00:54:00,782 I'm Andy Cohen. Good night, everybody. 1217 00:54:00,865 --> 00:54:04,035 For more about the Housewives, go to bravotv.com. 1218 00:54:04,119 --> 00:54:06,454 -Opa! -Opa!