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Welcome. Look at these mobsters.
You look gorgeous.
- Should we do a group hug? - Yeah.
Maybe high fives.
They verified that you were the one
that fed the information.
- I did not. - About Prism.
I didn't do it to you! Justin, how do you do this?
You have to deal with the lies and sift through the sh--.
She's not a liar.
- Don't call my wife a liar. - She's a liar, Justin.
She's not a----ing liar, Lisa.
Get your hand off me. Get him the [bleep] away from me.
Don't say those----ing words to my wife.
I'm gonna pound his ass.
I think Lisa would like an apology,
and I feel like she deserves an apology.
Yeah, I'll have to think about that one.
I want to invite everybody, and their husbands,
to go to Thermal.
Obviously, Britani is not invited.
Well, yeah.
And I'm on the fence about Heather.
So, you're planning a trip
and I'm here to like, sing for my supper,
and like, earn an invite?
You have come very hard for me.
I am not a good friend. I am terrifying.
This is not like the type of friendship I wanna have.
Hi, there. How are you? Thank you.
- Hi. - How's it going?
- Good, how are you? - You look so pretty.
I'm like, so casual. Ugh, I need a massage.
I'm happy to have a little spa day.
I know, me too.
Hi, how are you.
Are you checking in for an appointment?
We are, under Meredith.
- This is so pretty. - This is really beautiful.
Heather's gonna come over and meet us for coffee.
Oh, amazing.
Have you talked to Bronwyn
about this couples' trip that she planned?
Bronwyn invited me over to her house.
What? What? Oh, my God!
I'm on my way to the Stillwater Spa to meet Meredith.
Come up here. I wanna hear everything. This is so weird.
I like, love getting massages.
We have tea waiting for your guys on the balcony,
if you wanna get your robes on.
All right, thank you so much. It was amazing.
Oh, it's actually kinda nice out.
- Look at this. - Wow.
Oh, it's bright.
You need to. Like, who would we bring in?
- Myra? - I mean, yeah.
Like it's my Bat Mitzvah.
My mother just confirmed today that she'll come.
- I'm like, okay. - Oh, my gosh, I love that.
Ah, keys are in it. Thank you so much.
I can't even open the door.
Oh! How's it going?
Good. Thanks for letting me crash the spa.
You look great. I love this jacket.
- What's happening? - Guess what I'm doing.
- I don't know, what is it? - I'm getting Bat Mitzvahed.
You are, personally?
- Yes, I never did it. - Shut up.
I'm doing it. So, I'm super excited.
Well, make sure I'm invited to the Bat Mitzvah.
I don't wanna get left out.
Honey, I wasn't telling you because you weren't invited.
I mean, that seems to be what happened with me and Bronwyn.
Wait, what is going on?
Okay, so this morning Bronwyn invited me over to her house.
I assumed it was because she wanted to make up
and like, just move forward.
But like, I was invited for her to tell me
that I'm a sh--ty person.
Yeah, but she hasn't even really spent any time with you.
Like, how does she know what kind of person you are?
She basically told me that she has this group trip planned
and she was gonna wait and see
if she was gonna include me, or not.
What?
She brought up a lot of weird stuff.
She was apologizing to me.
I never really heard her say she was sorry.
I was confused about what she was even apologizing about.
And then, she was like, now what would you like
to apologize to me for?
What?
She was talking all over the place, mincing words.
And she's like, getting mad at me
for asking if she has a prenup.
Like, can you see the world you're living?
And I lack self-awareness?
Like, you are manipulating me and you are spinning this.
It was weird.
And then, apparently I needed to apologize for it
and make good, otherwise I wasn't gonna be included
on the friend trip.
We were going around in circles.
It was clear like we weren't getting anywhere.
And then I grabbed my stuff and I left.
This makes me sad.
Like, I want you to come on the trip with us.
Well, like, what's your version of your friendship with her?
Because when I got there, she told me that she had to
FaceTime you and to make sure that everything was cool
so that you could come on the trip, too.
I got off the call and was very irritated because I'm like,
it's not what she said, it's the way she said it.
She's like, "Are John and um, Justin gonna be okay?
I just wanna make sure they're gonna be okay."
And I'm like, my husband is a CEO of a company.
Like, he's gonna be just fine.
I was a little worried you might not wanna come
'cause I did invite Whitney and Justin.
You guys are okay, right?
You could be there with Whitney and Justin?
Yeah, totally fine. No, that's not. I mean, I'm fine.
That's not an issue? You're fine. Okay, okay.
Like, what was your perspective on the call?
I was frustrated because like,
I was processing it while we were on the phone.
I'm like, wait a minute, are you like, basically saying
me and John created this problem?
I'm like, I'm not gonna defend my character
and my husband's character on this phone call.
And when I got off, I was upset.
Like, Whitney is lying about me.
And the fact that she's not even like, hey, that sucks for you.
I'm sorry you were crying, I'm sorry you were upset.
I mean, how do you feel about going, Meredith?
It's really like, confusing because I was accused
of being behind all those rumors last year.
You know what? You want me to go there with her husband?
I can go there.
So, Shawn went on this podcast
and made a statement about Brooks,
saying that I'm basically using him as like,
a pawn, to deflect from my own wrongdoing.
So, the other night at Angie's,
I was speaking with Shawn.
I said that really hurt me.
It was hurtful to me, in all honesty,
when you used my son
and, and said that I was playing him as a pawn
to deflect from something that I didn't even do.
That's how I felt.
And not once was it,
I should not have talked about your son and I am sorry.
I would be hurt by that.
And I was just like, blown away.
Why would you bring Brooks into this mess?
He has absolutely nothing to do with it.
He wants nothing to do with this.
Like, leave him alone.
So, great time for you two to get on a private plane.
Maybe I'll go commercial.
Quick little jaunt to Palm Springs
sounds like it might be more like a living hell.
Come on. Come on, come on, come on.
I can't have you getting into trouble while I'm packing.
Come on. Come on, come on, come on. Okay, down girls.
Should we try calling Dad?
Should we call him and see what he has to say?
I wonder if he's awake? Okay.
Hi.
Hey.
What's goin' on? How's Korea?
Of course you did. Of course you did.
You ready to fly all the way back here
so you can fly to Palm Springs with me on Saturday?
Um, Mary can't make the trip.
Thank you for the invite.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to come.
I'm going to spend the weekend with my son.
Okay. And I told you Heather came over.
And it didn't go well.
So, I didn't obviously extend an invitation
as she was storming out of the house.
So, she's not coming.
So, I'm really hoping it goes well Todd, at this point.
I don't either.
I'm not gonna make this trip about that, right?
It's about you and I.
This really means a lot to me that we're doing this.
Yep, we'll see.
Okay.
I'm assuming that uh, we can pack pretty light.
It's gonna be warm and-
Private jet. It can't weigh too much.
I got this little Ferrari outfit.
Very cool.
I got that, fancy dinner outfit.
I've got my new shoes.
Gotta love a little package come just in time for the trip.
I didn't see that one hit the Amex.
Can you believe we're going on a couples' trip?
I think it's gonna be fun.
How do you feel about your dynamic with Lisa right now?
You know, right now, our friendship is not what it was
and I don't know how we'll get back to that.
And it's like, I've let her kinda get away with
being kinda mean to me at times.
A lot.
You've let her get away with that a lot.
I know. Not good.
Are you packing already?
Yeah, I gotta pick my outfits. I ordered some stuff.
- You think it's gonna be fun? - Yeah.
What do you think it's gonna be like with you and John?
I feel like John and I are gonna be fine.
The only thing that was kind of lingering
was he asked if I would be willing to give Lisa an apology.
No, she owes you an apology.
Are you ready for this trip?
Looks like you are, with all these sunglasses.
Are you bringin' 'em all?
No, I'm probably gonna bring like one, two,
probably three pair, maybe four.
That's it? So I shouldn't bring these?
John Barlow, I'm gonna threaten to divorce you
for the millionth time.
You're excited about going?
You know, probably not so much.
Like, things aren't great with Angie.
And after the way I left things with Whitney
after the mob party, you know,
I don't really wanna hang out with her.
You know. Justin still owes me an apology, too.
Well, he, he essentially said he's gonna think about it.
Okay.
But I'm not gonna force him to do something.
I have a lot to think about with them, too.
Oh, I'm sure you do.
I mean, it's just gonna be interesting.
Like, I think we're gonna have a good time.
I'm glad Denise could watch Henry.
How was your guys' lunch?
It was good. It got a little emotional.
- Oh really? - Which I hate.
How is Henry?
Around his birthday party, he sent out like,
a last-minute invite to kids
and they went to another kid's party instead of this.
I like, felt so bad for him.
And I was like-
Girl, aw.
And then I feel bad for Henry where I'm like,
I just hope I'm being the mom he needs, you know.
You totally are.
I don't second-guess myself a lot,
but like, the one thing I dissect
is how I am as a mom.
Having a friend call me a bad mom
magnifies everything like, a million times more.
Like, I think it's the meanest thing you can say to me.
Sorry.
I don't know why it makes me emotional.
Thank you.
It's pretty today.
- Got it. - It's too early. Hello.
Happy anniversary, Booboo.
Bronwyn!
Hi! Good morning!
- Todd, Justin. - Justin, nice to meet you.
Yeah, absolute pleasure.
Okay, okay. So we'll have Angie here.
I don't wanna have any drama on the plane.
No, no, no, I don't want any drama either. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard Bronwyn Air Flight 323,
bound for Palm Springs, California.
Ang!
Hi, how are you?
Please make sure all of your luxury carry on items
are safely stowed,
although I doubt some of the baggage
you ladies are carrying will fit in the overhead compartments.
- Hey, Todd. Good morning. - There she is.
Okay, where is everybody sitting?
For the safety of everyone, please make sure you are not
seated next to anyone you are currently feuding with.
Is this a dry flight or a wet flight?
Are you drinking at 7:00 in morning?
- Why not? Yes. - What is wrong with you?
Now, sit back, relax, and try to enjoy the flight.
After all, it's a private jet I'm paying for.
Coming up.
I wasn't coming to spend the weekend here
to sit through a bunch of arguments.
Lisa's gotta stop or you guys gotta go.
All right, come with me.
We're gonna go in this car over here, yeah?
Oh, wow.
Okay, perfect.
We're getting in a car.
Ready to go!
We have the warm weather!
Yay!
It's dangerous right now to be between
the husbands in this group.
At your house it was, the other night.
I'm not steppin' towards you.
Okay, don't step at me
because I'm Greek and I'll step back.
And you won't like it.
I've been so out to lunch.
Meredith told me there was an altercation with you and Justin?
Lisa came over, as Lisa does,
and she's like, "How do you deal with your wife?
She's a----ing liar."
And in the past, you know, we've always had
this kinda understanding from the beginning.
It's a pact. It's a brotherhood.
Stay out of our wives' business.
Got it back to balance?
I think it's balanced. It's close to.
I don't know if it's completely balanced.
Well then, it's not balanced.
I have to tell you, it was so awkward for me
when I got on the plane
and like, I saw Justin and Whitney, I went...
And like, you're wife's a liar and you're lying for her.
I get that Bronwyn invited her, but it's awkward.
It doesn't make it less awkward.
It was kinda weird on the plane.
I was talking to Lisa and Meredith.
We were talking about Heather and I's conversation.
What happened with Heather?
I had Heather over and tried to talk things out with her
and it just didn't go...
- Well. - You guys didn't get anywhere.
No. Heather left upset
in the middle of the conversation, yeah.
I'm shocked 'cause I didn't think anything was that deep.
I don't know, I started off by saying to her
I want to understand what I've done that's upset you so much.
And she was like, "So you wanna give me an insincere apology."
And I was like, "No, I will give you a sincere apology
if I just understand what it is you're upset about."
And she couldn't really tell me what she was upset about.
They were trying to explain to me
what Heather's point of view was.
So, are they agreeing with her?
Yeah. I mean, I'm incredibly hurt by my conversation
with Meredith and Lisa from the plane.
If they spoke to Heather and heard her side of things,
I don't know why they weren't open
to hearing my side of things.
I just think there's two sides to every story
and I feel like Heather and Bronwyn
are 180 from each other
and Bronwyn might be 180 from me, too.
Like, if you agree with Heather that I'm two-faced and bitchy,
and Todd's too stupid to realize I'm a gold digger,
why the [bleep] are you here?
It's not okay.
- Oh, wow. - This is amazing.
- Beautiful. - Todd!
- This is phenomenal. - Todd, you did a good job.
Yay, okay. We can take a tour and pick rooms.
Hey, thank you.
This house is incredible, Bronwyn.
Wow, amazing.
Bronwyn, oh, my god, this is like, amazing.
It's so pretty. Oh, my gosh.
It just goes on, and on, and on.
This is like, so beautiful! Oh, my gosh!
I know, it's beautiful.
The nicest thing about this house is it's large
with two wings.
And the best part about it is I don't have to be near Whitney
if I don't wanna be.
Look at this!
Oh, my gosh, pool and pond? Are you kidding me?
And there's stables, too.
You know, I've been travelling a lot for work this past year.
It is so damn important
with the limited time I'm with Meredith,
for Meredith to be happy.
- No bathtub. - Oh [bleep].
This is a bad - ing dream right now.
Bad dream. Holy sh--, holy sh--, holy sh--.
What are you gonna do if there's no bathtubs?
Check out. We know what makes each other happy.
And it is the lowest hanging fruit to know
Meredith loves a bath.
- There's no bathtub? - No bathtub.
Anytime we're sleeping somewhere,
head on a swivel looking for the tub.
Oh, my gosh, the whole thing's been redone.
- Look how pretty this is. - Yeah, this is beautiful.
- Uh-oh. - There's no bathtub.
Did you and Lisa wanna stay in a room
and John and I will stay in a room?
There's three rooms over here and two over there,
so it looks like...
If this was my party I'd be in there assigning.
I mean, there is a bad vibe with Lisa.
I have gone above and beyond
making sure she's comfortable with Whitney coming.
And now, I don't even know where she is on the property.
So, where do I think this goes from here?
Nowhere good.
It feels like, a little odd, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Coming up.
When it's me and somebody else,
it's my responsibility to work out, but when it's you
and someone else, my ass better ride your dick
like it's my job, Lisa!
It's incredibly awkward. It's so divided.
But we have to try to salvage this trip 'cause Bronwyn,
I have never had a friend
go this above and beyond on a trip.
This place is incredible.
You know, we've been on some good trips with friends.
This is next level.
You guys should meet us in Europe.
We're doing like, all of Italy.
I don't really like the food in Italy
so I don't wanna stay there too long.
You don't like the food? I love the food.
No, I think it's too fresh. In Italy. I don't love the food.
It's too fresh?
Lisa, I love you
but you sound insane here.
Food being too fresh is not a thing.
- Hey, how are you? - Hi, good afternoon.
- I'm Racqui. - Nice to meet you.
- Bronwyn's excited to see you. - Yeah, for sure.
Or excited to see what you brought, anyway.
Here, let me go grab Bronwyn.
You can just grab this table and I'll be right back.
- Or she'll be right back. - Okay.
I don't know what's bigger, your purse or the suitcase.
I know, just all of it.
Oh, my gosh, we have volleyball.
Oh, my God, there's paddle boards and surfboards.
Thank you for driving down.
A long day for you, from LA, huh?
Yeah. But it's okay.
So, these are the pieces I talked to Norman about.
That I was thinking. Happy anniversary to me. Yes?
This is a jeweler I've worked with before.
I actually was just at their vault a couple weeks ago.
I had my puppy with me.
And she got to try on
Charlize Theron's Oscar necklace.
This is an opera necklace and it's 170 carats.
It's beautiful. It's so insane.
Todd likes to buy jewelry for me.
It's a big expenditure.
So, these are all pieces I liked at the jeweler
that I would like Todd to also like for me.
Let's see if I've still got it. Am I an athlete?
Well, my dad was a soccer player
and he was the MVP on the Greek team.
And so, I just assume I inherited his skills with balls.
Oh, no! Ah! Hurry up!
- This way. - Oh, my God. Oh sh--.
Apparently, I assumed wrong.
- Did it go in? - It went in.
Oh sh--. Maybe I could reach that. Hold on.
Okay.
Come to mama. Hold on, watch this.
You all right?
Well, I'm trying not to fall in
'cause my hair and makeup are done.
Wah!
The studs are 10 carat each.
They're each 10 carats.
And they're like, a perfect match, right?
- Yes, they are. - Wow, pretty incredible.
- Right? - It is.
Just tap the water.
What, tap the water?
- Like that? - Yep.
Hi-ya!
It'll push it this way. Yeah.
Hi-ya!
They're like headlights.
Yep! I did it.
I got the ball back!
I'm gonna try them both on and we'll think about it
and then I'll get back to you when we settle on something?
Mm-hmm. Well, I'd pick both.
Thank you. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
You know what I'm actually really good at?
Soccer. Oh sh--!
Not really.
I'll let you go get it.
Do you think we're going out for lunch?
No, I think we're having lunch here 'cause the table is set.
- Hey, babe. - Hey. Is Seth exhausted?
Is he coming out?
No, he's been working so much lately,
so he's probably on a call.
Oh, my God, it's Saturday. He's gotta take a day off.
I know. It's a little outta control.
Glad he was able to come out and do this.
I know. I'm so glad we were all able to do this, you know?
- Good point. - Look who's here.
I was looking all over for you.
Oh, somebody got drinks. What is that?
It is a martini kalamata.
I don't even know what kalamata is.
- Oh, olives. - Cheers, honey.
This is awesome, by the way. I love it.
Isn't it beautiful?
It's so awesome to hang out with you guys.
Um... Meredith, I have some bad news.
I have to leave early to go back to Ohio.
What do you mean?
I've got to leave first thing tomorrow morning.
No!
I'm so irritated.
Like, it's a couples' trip.
I'd like the other half to my couple.
It's Sunday!
Yeah, but it's Sunday. You can wait 'til Monday.
Getting from Palm Springs to Columbus requires like an early-
Yeah. I gotta fly to Minneapolis.
I don't like this whole thing.
I think this is like, this doesn't add up.
Hold on, I don't like this whole thing.
I think this is like, this doesn't add up.
What doesn't add up?
Because I told you that this was like, an overnight trip,
and you were like, yeah, great, I'm coming, I'll be there.
And you've been gone, like, the last two weeks entirely.
And you're leaving again next week.
This is starting to feel like Toronto again.
This is not the first time that Seth and I have had problems.
And now it's like we're back to this pattern
that didn't work so well the first time.
When he started this position in Ohio,
I didn't think he would be gone all that much,
but I don't think he like, sees it as big of a problem as I do.
The thing is, we've had these problems before.
We know that we need to address this
before it snowballs,
and him leaving early makes me feel like
he doesn't wanna fix it.
So, work with me, Seth.
Help me help us.
I mean, you got delayed coming in,
so I didn't see you until yesterday afternoon.
And you're leaving tomorrow morning.
I hear you.
Meredith has an insanely high expectation level
and sometimes I can't meet 'em all.
Like every----ing day, I can't meet 'em all.
She got...
Yeah, no, she seemed very upset.
That literally was when we started growing apart
was 'cause I was gone so much.
Five days a week.
You come home, and then you leave.
Oh yeah, you're home for a day or two and then gone for a week.
I'm just frustrated because I feel like it's two days.
Like, it's not that big of a deal.
And he literally got home yesterday afternoon
and has been gone so...
I get it. Look, no one appreciates
somebody working hard more than me, you know that.
Yeah.
But it's just, it's really, it's taking its toll on me.
I think lesson learned.
When they're in bikinis laying in a beautiful spot,
they're at their best.
Yeah, and when you first arrive, don't drop a bomb like that.
Yeah.
Ang! Look at you, million bucks!
Well you know, I walked out,
and I was like, where should I go?
I looked over there, I wasn't really feeling
any welcome vibes, so, here I am.
No, yeah, should we go say hi?
I went and talked to them when they were picking rooms
and they said nothing's going on, nothing's weird.
Your rooms are okay? Everything's okay?
Yeah, no, they're perfect.
And everything's okay? You guys are comfortable?
- No drama? - You're like the best hostess.
No, we avoid drama.
And I was like okay, and they came and sat over there.
It's so bizarre.
I feel like someone has to break the ice.
Where's Todd?
He just went to do a phone call.
He'll be back. He's always doing work.
You guys wanna flip a coin for cornhole teams here?
- Yeah, let's do it. - Or is it you guys against us?
There's kind of like another reason why it's awkward
is because Lisa wants an apology from Justin.
And Justin and I both agree
that we feel like he did not do anything wrong.
She should apologize to my husband.
Oh, you want an apology for Justin. Oh, god.
Whitney wants an apology from Lisa.
And Lisa wants an apology from Justin.
Oh, totally off.
I don't know if there's a fourth person
in this equation, so maybe that's a triangle, not a box.
I'm not good with geometry. I don't know.
But I am gonna tell you this,
if Lisa was to give someone an apology,
first she would have to admit, god forbid, she was wrong.
Can the apologies that are wanted cancel each other out
and no one needs to apologize?
We need to break the ice. I'm gonna go grab some shots.
And to do the right thing it's gonna be Vida Tequila shots.
So, I'll be right back.
Yes!
- Aren't you hot? - Not at all.
- You aren't? - No.
And this is like, nothing. It's like, open nothing.
Oh, Justin. Justin's a pro.
Don't give a [bleep].
Geez, we're gettin' smoked.
Do you think I'm pouring too much? Do you only go halfway?
You're right. Okay, let's go all the way, right?
Where's my wife?
That is like, the worst question.
I know, right?
On a couples' trip, is like, where's my wife?
Todd! I wanna do a little toast for your anniversary.
Cheers. Hi everyone, I just got some Vida Tequila for y'all.
Get the party started.
Hi girls!
Would you like a little shot of Vida Tequila, ma'am?
Ooh, I will take one. Thank you.
Beautiful, beautiful.
- Cheers, guys. - Cheers!
Hmm.
Oh, good, we're having, we're breaking the ice over here.
- It was good. - Did you win?
- Me and Justin won. - You and Justin won?
Ooh, I like this. I like the bubbles.
All the husbands in the pool, huh?
Seth is Todd's new BFF.
This jet is giving me a great foot massage.
Meredith, are your ears okay?
Well, this is the thing, ladies.
So, I got um, hearing aids.
Well, I think I'm headed in that same direction.
So, tell me about it.
Everything you guys have been saying about me,
I will now be able to hear. Watch out.
Meredith!
I'm actually very excited about my hearing aids.
They did my tests and they said I do have hearing loss
and recommended the hearing aids.
And I think it's the best thing I ever did.
And they also work as air pods.
I can listen to my music and tune all those ladies out.
And they won't even know it.
Oh!
You guys, has anyone talked to Heather?
No, I was gonna text her from my room and say hi.
I feel kind of sad that she's not here. I feel bad for her.
- I feel really bad. - I wish she were here.
I know that Bronwyn tried to apologize and repair it,
and find a path forward.
I didn't hear that same story from Heather.
I think it might be a little more complicated.
Yeah, I think it was a little more complicated.
I don't think it's that complicated.
I think Bronwyn invited her over to work it out to get her here.
I know Bronwyn wanted her here.
When I talked to Heather,
I heard a totally different interpretation.
I think that they're misunderstanding each other.
They're saying the exact same thing about each other.
I think it's better that Heather just speaks for herself.
Like, I don't feel comfortable.
I don't wanna get in this game of telephone.
I agree. Well, let's call her and check in.
Look, I do miss Heather
but I'm not dumb enough to pick up the phone and call her
on a trip that Bronwyn is hostessing.
- Hey. - Hey, Heather.
Oh, my gosh, hi.
Hi!
Oh, my gosh, you look cute.
It's a double standard.
Like, if you had called Lisa's mortal enemy,
you'd be in the pool right now.
Everybody says that they wish that you were here.
Hi, chirps. I know, I'm sad.
Did you guys have fun? Was the flight good?
Should I come back from the bathroom now or?
We were talking about why you weren't here.
Why are we doing this right now?
Oh, my God, we miss you. We wish you were here.
Have so much fun. It looks gorgeous.
We miss you. We wish you were here.
Have so much fun. It looks gorgeous.
I'm furious when I find out she's on the phone with Heather.
Like, up until this point,
I've been like, maybe I did something wrong.
Maybe I said something meaner than I remember.
Maybe Lisa and I are in a weird place.
- No, this bitch dead ass wrong. - All right, bye.
All right, bye.
It feels a little weird I went to the bathroom
and you guys call Heather.
I feel like we're just telling her we miss her.
Like, I think we all miss her and wish that things
went better with you guys.
I invited Heather over with the intention, very clearly,
to fix it with her so that Heather could come.
It feels a little shady to call her and be like,
we miss you, we miss you.
We're just sad that she's not here. That's all what it is.
And I believe you.
I don't care if you believe Heather over me.
No, it's not, it's not.
It's kinda weird you came if you do.
But I also think you and I have a long relationship, Lisa.
And I don't just listen when someone talks poorly about you.
I don't.
I don't think she was talking poorly about you.
I think she was explaining her side of the story
and how she felt, that's what I was listening to.
You assume that I invited Heather over to have a fight
with her so she couldn't come on a trip because I'm just what?
You're putting words in my mouth now. I didn't say that.
Actually no, I'm not putting words in your mouth,
I'm asking you, is that what it was?
'Cause I don't hear a lot of words coming out of your mouth
and that does kind of bother me.
Because these two, and a lot of other people, can attest
that words actually do come out of my mouth
when someone speaks about you.
But you said very clearly, words matter.
Which is why when somebody says to me Lisa this, or Lisa that,
I say I don't believe that.
That's not a Lisa I know.
I am very thrown off by what's happening
with Lisa not defending me.
And I did recently go on a hike where Lisa
was very poorly talked about, and I defended her.
Lisa, unfortunately, is the type of person
that hurts other people to make herself feel better.
I'm sad that that's what's happened.
I just can't say right now I've ever seen that.
So, you'd think at some point that if I wasn't owed loyalty
because of our friendship,
I'd probably have bought it by now with this trip
I'm taking her on.
You don't have to be the same friend that I am.
We all show our own ways.
But it's starting to feel a little bit odd to me
that you're so tight with Heather
and you're so tight with Britani.
But never once when Britani has yelled at me
have you called me the next day and said,
"Are you cool? Are you fine? Do you feel okay?"
Never once when Heather and I have had a problem
have you called me and said, "Are you cool?
Are you fine? Do you feel okay?"
I'm not gonna say a word.
It's not my business.
I don't wanna have anything to do with it.
This is really stupid. I don't like it.
Lisa listened to Heather's feelings.
She did not throw you under the bus.
Well, and Bronwyn's never thrown you under the bus,
just so you know.
So, here's the thing, you don't have to defend me.
You don't defend me and then you tell me
this is Heather's feeling, this is Heather's feeling.
And then the second I have to take a leak you call Heather?
Bronwyn, I am so glad you invited me
and I am so glad I'm here, and I came as your friend.
I also listened to my other friend
who was speaking to me out of hurt.
And you didn't feel like maybe I should check in with Bronwyn
before I go on a trip with her?
Did you check in on me? Whitney and I went to blows.
I feel like Whitney's lying about me.
- Did you check in on me? - I absolutely did.
Look at how quiet I stayed about Jen with all that bullsh--.
I don't like being accused of things.
If I do something, I will take full accountability.
I do not like my character questioned.
I don't like when people accuse me of things I didn't do.
Before I left Angie's house, I looked both you and John
in your face and said, "Are you guys cool?
I don't wanna leave if you guys are upset."
Is there anything else I could say to make things better.
But I did check in with you and John.
You didn't say hey, this girl is calling you a liar.
Why don't we call Heather.
We did, Todd, that's why we're fighting.
- Thank you, though. - Oh, okay.
I wanna speak for myself.
I don't want anybody else in between.
I will sit over here because I'm not gonna have
a million other people in between it.
You know what? I am your friend.
I did listen to Heather's perspective.
It's a little weird that Heather's allowed to tell
you two how she feels about me, and that's totally cool,
and you guys have to listen, but I'm not allowed to tell
anybody how I feel.
Heather is saying Bronwyn is two-faced.
Bronwyn is untrustworthy. Bronwyn this.
Bronwyn is saying I wanna be friends with Heather.
I tried to apologize to Heather.
Listen to the difference. Heather is sh-- talking me,
or sh-- talking someone else,
while I'm trying to----ing fix it.
And everybody thinks that Heather's the one that's missed?
Figure it out, Lisa!
Yeah, I don't wanna fight with you about Heather
and Heather being here.
I don't wanna be involved in it. I listened to Heather.
She's my friend. And I listened to you.
I think the bottom line is like, you and Heather need to work out
the things with you and Heather,
and I don't like being involved in it.
Lisa, that is a double standard.
That's an absolute double standard.
Because you're telling me that when she says something
about you, I should call and check on you,
but when Heather and I have an argument,
I'm supposed to work it out with Heather.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
When it's me and somebody else,
it's my responsibility to work out
but when it's you and somebody else,
my ass better ride your dick like it's my job, Lisa!
When it's me and somebody else,
it's my responsibility to work out.
But when it's you and someone else, my ass better ride
your dick like it's my job, Lisa!
Lisa and I have known each other for years,
but this trip is becoming a turning point for me
where Lisa is not mourning this crack in our friendship,
Lisa is jamming sh-- down that crack
to make this divide bigger.
And if she thinks that like, her and Heather's friendship
is enough of a consolation that she and I
won't continue to be friends, - ing go with God.
Mazel. Like, I hope so.
I have never asked for this, so.
Like, this is just amazing.
I didn't do anything wrong
so I don't even feel a little bit bad.
And like, she'll hear from Heather and they'll work it out.
And like, everyone can apologize to me.
Just wanna make sure you're okay.
I just needed a break from that insanity.
- Like, it's insanity. - It is.
What infuriates me is the I'm kind of your friend when
I need to be, but what she doesn't wanna say
is Heather was wrong to storm out of your house.
Heather was wrong to not take an apology.
And it's wrong of us to call her and bring this sh-- up
and stir it on your trip that we came on.
Lisa and Meredith didn't need to come
if they feel weird about it.
Like, I don't pity need them to come on my trip with me.
Because if they were truly neutral,
they wouldn't be saying to me,
well, here's why this went weird with Heather.
Why didn't you say to Heather, I know Bronwyn.
She's very direct.
If it went sideways, you must have said something to her.
That's what I would've said.
This is between Bronwyn and Heather,
so I don't know who was in the wrong here,
but I can see how Bronwyn is really hurt
that Lisa's now spokesperson for Heather Gay?
Like, if Lisa could just stay out of it,
this wouldn't even be a thing.
This is some bullsh--. It's some actual bullsh--.
I feel like for me, I can be a good friend,
but I didn't hear from Bronwyn, and she didn't say,
Heather came to my house and she said this and this.
But how can I say to Heather,
you're wrong, your feelings are wrong.
No, I don't believe you.
Here's the problem.
Not only is Lisa blind loyal to Heather,
even to my face when Heather is not in the room,
but Lisa is a big part of some stuff that's going on
with my family right now.
She knows things are hard for me.
She has not checked in on me.
Then the second I say maybe, not you're being a bad friend.
I didn't even said that.
I just said you're not being the friend I am to you.
She says, well, you didn't check on me. Absolute bullsh--.
I did all of the things Lisa wants me to have done,
but Lisa hasn't done any of them.
She has not done it for you?
No. She's still not doing it for me.
And then the second I call her out it's well,
I didn't do something.
What's happening?
Do you want me to let you have a private conversation?
Yeah, yeah, give me one sec. Thank you for checking.
I told you I wasn't gonna deal with this with these people.
I think I told you specifically her, that I wouldn't do this.
And either I would leave or they could leave.
- And I'm getting there. - I know.
I should just tell John and Lisa they should leave.
Give them some money, get 'em a car, they can leave.
Maybe I should tell them 'cause I'm nicer than you.
Todd can be an asshole, but in this case,
he's kind of like my knight in shining asshole,
you know what I mean?
Like, he is riding into battle for me.
And I appreciate Todd coming to my rescue,
but I would like Todd to come to my rescue with a Nerf gun,
not a machete.
And I know Todd only operates in machetes.
I'm not doing, I'm not sitting through this all weekend.
And this is bullsh--.
All right, dude, this is gettin' outta control.
- Lisa and Bronwyn. - What's goin' on?
All the bullsh--.
I told Bronwyn I wasn't coming to spend the weekend here
to sit through a bunch of arguments.
So, it's gotta stop.
Lisa's gotta stop or you guys gotta go.
I'll go talk to Lisa.
- Okay. - All right.
Lisa, you in here?
All right then, let's go eat lunch.
Did you figure it out with John or what happened with John?
I said we're not gonna deal with this.
And he said, well, I'll go talk to Lisa.
I've had enough of this.
I've had a whole weekend's worth in three hours.
Yeah.
What's goin' on with you and Bronwyn?
'Cause Todd just came out pretty heated.
Bronwyn's like, you're not having my side with Heather.
But I'm like, Heather's my friend too,
and she expressed her feelings with me, too.
So, I'm like, it's all confusing.
What did Todd just say to you?
He just said Bronwyn's real upset,
and he said if it can't be settled out
then he wants us to go.