ANDY: Tonight, the dramatic conclusion
of "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City" reunion.
Lisa accused you of stalking Jen's house.
You're a mother with four kids and single!
MONICA: Guess what?! I posted it on my Instagram!
Why are you driving by Jen Shah's--
-I never fucking hid that shit! -Sick!
You're sick!
Jen gave you the black eye.
Yeah.
Tell us how it happened.
***
Lisa, when was the last time you did your own makeup?
2019.
Lisa, do you--you do know that's insecurity, right?
Was the initial point of Reality Von (Tea)se?
It was to expose Jen.
You are not a hero in this, Monica.
***
I'm kind of amazed
that you're so surprised that they're pissed off by this.
-I really am. -You are?
Because they were such big fans of the page.
This is ridiculous.
***
-WOMAN: Let's do this. -MAN: 10 seconds.
Here we go. Start rolling.
The expressions that Meredith has been giving me
for this reunion... -[laughter]
-Are you mad at me? -Mad at you?
-Yeah. -Not at all.
You've been giving me the stink eye...
-Have I? -...for, like, two hours.
-HEATHER: I thought it was me. -I'm sitting here.
I'm like, she's quitting the show. She's miserable. Like...
-Everything's great. -Okay. Usually...
That's our love language, so...
Usually that happens at Jersey reunions,
not at Salt Lake City, but here we are. Anyway...
Welcome back. I'm Andy Cohen,
here with "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City."
From a game of "Kick the Housewife off the Wagon"
to a real mixed bag of a drag competition,
when this group plays games,
they tend to start off warm and fuzzy
and quickly snowball into something cold and prickly.
-Let's take a look. -Uh-oh.
We are doing a drag-inspired makeup competition.
Take our makeup off?
-Yes. -No.
This is fucking torture.
My makeup artist is on retainer.
I have glam in Monaco. I have glam in Saint-Tropez.
I have glam everywhere I go.
-Lisa. -No, it's bothering me.
-I don't like this shit. -I know.
I will put up with, like, everything,
but this is, like, it's my fucking face.
There's another game that we're gonna play.
-Oh, my gosh. -Oh, my gosh.
A pioneer favorite. It's called "Who's on Your Wagon?"
So, one person has to go.
Well, I'm a big supporter of women, so I would keep
everyone but the one that's the nastiest to women.
So, Monica, you would have to go.
-Oh, my God. You are so nasty. -No, I'm not.
-You really are. -I'm honest.
-There's a difference. -That's not...
[mockingly] ...honest. There's not a difference.
[normal voice] You're just nasty.
You like my voice so much.
You like to use it all the time. I love that.
[imitating Lisa] I hate your voice so much, actually.
-Monica, it's just a game. -Wow.
It is.
You got to stop with that.
I can say whatever the fuck I want, Lisa, honestly.
Like, you're not really good at arguing.
-[sighs deeply] -Can we just, like, give credit
to Meredith that she shook the butter the entire time?
-And wore a bonnet. -And she made butter.
-She actually made butter. -ANDY: Monica, why did--
And she sent me restaurant pictures of her
presenting her homemade butter to be served to her at--
-Wow. -Pardon me. I took it
to a variety of restaurants
and asked them to plate it and serve it, and they did.
Didn't it melt on the way to the rest--
-No. -No?
No.
Monica, why did you take it so personally
when Lisa kicked you off her wagon?
Did you expect me to keep you on it?
I didn't expect you to keep me on it.
It was your monologue of bullshit that I didn't like.
That you don't support women? You don't.
I'm answering the question.
Lisa, when was the last time you did your own makeup?
Probably 2019.
You have a makeup artist on retainer who--
-Every day. Every day. -Every day.
-No matter where you're going?
-It's--It's John Barlow. -No, it's not John Barlow.
No matter where I'm going, I have glam every day.
Do they touch you up throughout the day?
-No. Just one--one glam and go. -Glam and go.
It's glam and go, yep, and I'll have it till I die.
Mary, you wanted to say?
Lisa, do you--you do know that's insecurity, right?
-No, it's not insecurity. -'Cause it's not normal.
-It's what I like. I want-- -She also can't see.
-Yeah, you know what? -It's not normal.
I actually can't see that great, but...
Like, it's--No, I literally can't see to do my own makeup.
-Like, it would kill me. -Oh.
But I don't want to. Like, I told John, I'm like,
I'm gonna die with glam and draped in diamonds.
Those are my...things.
Monica, how long have you been practicing
your Lisa Barlow impression?
-You nailed it at Pioneer Day. -Since season one.
-Shut up, honestly. -Well, clearly.
You are seriously so obsessed with you thinking
I'm obsessed with you. I'm not. Your voice is...
[imitating Lisa] ...just so easy to do. Oh, my God.
[normal voice] Like, it's all we hear, all the...
[imitating Lisa] Monica. Monica. Oh, my God.
I barely talk to you. I don't know how you would know it.
Like, it's literally just a low voice and draw your A's out.
-LISA: I barely talk to her. -It's not bad.
-It's pretty easy. Basic. Basic. -I like my voice, too.
-Yeah. -Was that a good impression?
-It's close. -ANDY: It's close?
Speaking of impressions, Meredith, you showed off
your Whitney impression.
[imitating Whitney] "It creeps me out to get in a bubble bath
with someone else." -[Heather laughing]
"Like, to me, a bath is for me."
[laughter]
-Can you give me a little of it? -Ah. I don't know.
[imitating Whitney] It's so hard to do it
all on the spot like this. -[laughter]
[imitating Whitney] No, it isn't. It's easy.
I think my Meredith is the best.
It's so easy, Meredith. Meredith.
-Is that how I sound? -[laughter]
-Yeah. -LISA: Oh, my gosh.
I don't think that's how I sound.
-ANDY: [laughs] Oh, God. -To me, you do.
Angie, I hear you do a good Meredith impression.
-[slurring indistinctly] -[laughter]
-MARY: Oh, Lord. -[laughter]
Heather, Leah from West L.A. said,
"Heather, Mary dissing your necklace
at the Aprés No Ski event was classless,
but her body shaming comments on 'Watch What Happens Live'
about Gucci not making a size 14 were disgusting."
Mary, did Heather get it right
with this Gucci top and chain necklace?
-No. -No?
I don't think-- I don't think Gucci makes that.
-Okay. You think it's a... -You think it's a...
-I do. -You think it's a fake?
I do. I've never seen a corset in like a size 14.
-Ooh! -[gasps loudly]
-You know? Have you? -I haven't looked. I mean...
-A corset, Andy? -Okay. Yeah. I mean...Okay.
-I love you, Andy. -Mary Cosby.
-Okay. -[laughter]
"Have the two of you spoken since that comment?
If not, Heather, what do you wanna say to Mary now about it?"
Yeah, we've spoken, and she said she didn't mean it that way.
I was not body shaming her at all.
What were you doing?
That didn't even come to my mind.
That was not my point. I have no reason to do that.
And I think she looks really good, especially today.
-Aw. -I guess she shamed me,
'cause she looks great. -Aw, that's nice.
That's nice, Mary. Thank you.
Mary, before I let you go,
I have to say you were some great comedic relief.
-I got a lot of laughs. -Good. Thank you, Andy. Good.
I'm wondering, what do you think your future with the group is?
I mean, when you-- when you look back on it,
would you--would you wanna be a part of it again?
What? What do you think?
I'm just gonna continue being me.
-Yeah. -Um, and if people are willing
to open up and accept me in the--in this group as a group,
maybe I would. -Mm-hmm.
But as long as that... that push out, like,
like Whitney acts like she's terrified of me,
which she's not.
She's always got something to say.
I was always in the beginning scared
of disappointing you because I actually was--
-Disappointed me? How? -Yes, that--
So, the fear that you were feeling isn't fear,
'cause I'm not scared of you.
I was always scared of upsetting you or disappointing you.
Why? How is that whatever developed into a friendship?
Because what comes out of your mouth after.
What do you mean what comes out of my mouth after?
-That means you don't know me. -Like if I--No, when you would--
-If you knew me-- -If I would make you upset....
Like, Meredith, are you afraid of me?
No.
...you would say mean things to me.
-Nobody--No. -Monica, are you afraid of me?
-No. -Because you say stuff. Angie?
And in fact, Mary and I--not-- maybe not on camera,
but we have had words before. -Yeah.
-And we navigate it... -Yeah, it was--perfectly.
...and it's done in two seconds flat, and we do fine.
So, maybe I can give you guys some lessons on how
to navigate Mary. [laughs] -Please.
Right. Well, Mary, it was great to see you.
-Thank you, Andy. -Thank you for coming.
Thank you. Andy, that was good.
Okay, we're gonna let Mary go. Thank you.
A bathroom break?
Um, I mean, I guess you could, very quickly.
We have this whole Bermuda segment.
-I'm very quick. -Go, go, go.
-I'm going. -Are we going to the restroom?
-Bye, Mary. -Bye.
What are we doing? Are you helping me?
-Yeah. -You're so strong. Thank you.
-Andy, bye. -Bye. I'll talk to you.
-You didn't have to get up. -Mwah. Mwah.
-[gasps] Bye, beautiful. -Bye. Love you.
Love you, too.
-You got this. You're good. -[laughs] Thanks.
***
ANDY: Coming up next...
Monica, we have not heard your side of the story.
You've been accused of being a troll account
that has come after everyone in this room.
Are you Reality Von (Tea)se?
CREW MEMBER: Everybody, quiet, please!
Ready in five, four, three...
We are back
with "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City" reunion.
This season, the ladies had
their first international vacation to Bermuda.
But mysterious messages and Mafia allegations
quickly turned this girls trip into a whodunit.
-[scoffs] -Or in this case, who DM'd it?
[laughs]
And the most shocking mystery of all was,
and still remains, who is the real Monica?
Let's watch.
About a week ago, Meredith talked to me about how
she believes that Angie is in the Greek Mafia,
and then I start getting DMs about Angie.
Total bullshit.
Here we go again.
Monica gets DM'd all these documents.
It's saying that you're part of a Mafia,
and I said that's Meredith DMing you.
She is constantly threatening my family, my reputation.
Go look up my family.
There is not shit on the Katsanevas family.
-I'm not saying there is. -Do you hear me?
I believe you sent the DMs to Monica.
-You're fucking classless. -Well, I didn't.
I'm trying to process all this
'cause there's a lot of elements here that aren't adding up.
We absolutely had a conversation about her being in the Mafia.
This is all the stuff you told me, Monica.
-Why can't you-- -Meredith, stop lying! Enough!
-Stop lying! -Lisa, I'm not lying.
You're lying! Say, "I fucked up," and we can all move on.
You fucked up.
HEATHER: Hey. Are you kidding me right now?
Monica is not who she says she is.
Who you really are is the cyberbully internet troll...
Reality Von (Tea)se.
That's...not...true entirely.
I have your perfect formula!
-Receipts, proof, timeline... -What?
...screenshots, fucking everything
to prove that you are a fucking bully and a fucking troll,
and you do not deserve to be at this table
or anywhere near any of us for the way you've treated us!
I don't think you understand something about this group!
We are friends, and we have been through this bullshit before.
[thunderclap]
I ate shit every day for her.
I went on book tour and defended her
for the fact that she gave me a black eye.
-What? -I had to ride hard for her.
-All of us covered for her. -What?
-We all did. -Every single one.
-We all did. -And it's--we're not gonna
do it again with you.
Your invite's rescinded. Pack your bags and go.
***
-Okay. -[whispers] Wow.
-We have a lot to discuss. -Mm-hmm.
Monica, we have not heard your side of the story.
You've been accused of being a troll account
on social media that has come after everyone in this room.
Are you Reality Von (Tea)se?
I am part of the page. Yes.
-ANDY: You are. -Mm-hmm.
-I did not set up the account. -Okay.
I didn't name the account or open the accounts.
Were you posting things under that handle?
Yes. Yeah.
Did you post as Reality Von (Tea)se?
-Yes. Not all of them. -Okay.
But yes.
How long were you posting under that account name?
It started in 2021, and it ended in...
Okay, so the show was on the air.
You were working for Jen?
-No. -You had already given
your evidence against Jen at that time.
I don't know if I had given my evidence yet.
I mean, had you given your statement
against Jen at that time? -Yes.
-You had. -That--
What was the initial point of--of Reality Von (Tea)se?
Was it to get back at Jen?
-It was to expose Jen. -It was to expose Jen.
It was to expose the truth of how she was
treating her employees, and that's what it was.
And then you started including things
about the other Housewives of Salt Lake City?
Okay, I don't feel like that page was made for
talking shit on these ladies.
I honestly feel like that page did not come for any of them.
Now, do you have documentation of things
that were posted by this account?
-That physically hurt me? -Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. They're still up.
They're calling me a tranny twin.
What are you talking about? Jen said that.
That's currently up there right now.
You posted it multiple, multiple times.
-I didn't post that one. -Manatee.
We were sticking up in your defense.
Every person on this couch can go through and give you about
10 personal examples.
Explain to me how this works.
How what works? The internet?
-No. Explain to me-- -[laughter]
I just wanna know what level we start at.
No, explain to me the posting, the tagging,
because I can't tell... -I mean, you--
...what's been generated by this page and what's
been reposted by this page. -Well...
What's the difference?
Actually, why don't you just go to the Instagram page?
-And they said-- -So, it's @realityvontease2?
-Yes. -Because the first one got
shut down for cyberbullying. -Okay.
That's not why it got shut down.
Why did it get shut down? 'Cause of the cease and desist
from her attorney? -LISA: Jen and Sharrieff?
No, we didn't care about that because we knew
that we had facts, and we did nothing wrong.
-It's not facts. -It is--It is facts that she
called you awful names. -To call her a tranny twin
is not a fact. -I didn't call her that.
We need to make that very clear.
You know what? You did, because it's posted,
and it's live on Instagram right now, so you can--
-We were posting Jen saying it. -Well, thank you.
Thank you for being a courier...
-You're welcome. -...of horrible lies and shit
about me and thank you for putting it out there,
tagging every single Bravo account in the universe.
It wasn't a lie. It was Jen calling you an awful name.
We were trying to expose how abusive she was to you.
Do you not understand that?
You are not a hero in this, Monica.
-You are not a hero. -Okay. I don't care.
-There is--I see-- -I'm fine being the villain
in your story, Heather, 'cause you're the clowns in mine.
Okay, so here's something.
"Y'all's grandma is still
pretending she can get a black D."
-Uh, I did not say that. -HEATHER: Yes, you did.
-Yes, you did. -It came straight
from your phone. -You did.
That doesn't mean that I wrote it.
But you posted it. It doesn't matter if you write it.
-You posted it. -"DMX rapper who blended..."
-Okay, I've actually... -But I'm more hurt by
the text messages exchanged between her and [bleep].
-That sounds exactly like you. -That's not me.
-That sounds like Jen. -You reposted that over and over
and over and over and over. -And over again.
-It wasn't-- -Who? Reality Von (Tea)se
reposted it? -Yes.
-Okay, can I see that? -Every day I got tagged and--
-Can I see that? -Yeah.
Well, they disappear after 24 hours,
but I can show you how many times you tagged me.
-It was 15-- -If they were in our stories,
then they would be in our highlights
because we had, uh, five highlights.
You didn't save every single highlight.
Do you have your DMs from Reality Von (Tea)se?
MONICA: We did not post that shit on Whitney.
-Yeah, but they-- -Show me that. Show me that.
-We were tagged every day. -Like, I wanna see how much...
To a level that you can't explain.
It was simple to see.
That's because we wanted you guys to see.
I'm not denying any of that.
But it's literally so deceptive to not know that it was you
trying to engage-- -Okay, so here's the thing.
-HEATHER: For three years, Andy. -LISA: It's weird. It's weird.
I will say this. This is-- So, Reality Von (Tea)se--
this is, like, hundreds of tags that she was--
Every single day for three years.
I didn't deny that. We tagged you guys in everything.
It wasn't three years. It was started in 2021.
LISA: It was actually horrible because it's a way--
Okay, well, it's-- so it was two years.
-Yes. -Okay.
Wait, look at when it was started.
You can see when the Instagram account was started.
We know when it got started 'cause as soon as
it got started, went all week, March 2nd.
Do you want me to tell you the exact date?
-I'll tell you the exact date. -You said it was...
Why give her a platform for it? It's ridiculous.
I'll tell you guys--Oh, my gosh. I don't--
This is a bully and a troll.
I don't deserve a platform, Heather?
Yeah, because bullies don't deserve a platform.
-That's gross. -I wanna be crystal clear.
-Okay. Okay. Look. -Hold on.
***
Oh, Andy.
-That is not-- -This is not--
-I'm not interested. -That's not funny to me.
-I went through this. -I am not interested in that.
I went through this for three years.
You think I wanna see a Burn Book?
-That's not a Burn Book, Andy. -It is a Burn Book.
-HEATHER: Not funny at all. -Are we like 2-year-olds here?
I can't anymore. I'm not doing this. Yeah.
HEATHER: Why give her the platform for it?
It's ridiculous. This is a bully and a troll.
Okay, look.
-Oh, Andy, that is not... -This is not...
-I'm not interested. -That's not funny to me.
-I am not interested in that. -Hold on, hold on. Yes.
-I am not interested in that. -I went through this
for three years. You think I wanna see a Burn Book?
That's not a Burn Book, Andy. I'm sorry.
So, is this the worst of what you did?
You saved it in the scrapbook?
Or is it the meanest things about us?
-No. It's full of everything. -Okay, let's see.
It's full of receipts.
Okay, that's me.
Oh, this is cute.
HEATHER: "Fucks the other half of New York" is Andy?
Yes. It's a Burn Book. It's supposed to be funny.
You don't have to take it so serious, Heather.
"This girl is the nastiest skank bitch I've ever met"?
-ANDY: It's about herself. -I'm doing myself, okay?
-Relax. -Oh, so you made this up
about Lisa Lee... -Oh, wow.
...is a materialistic little bitch?
LISA: That's, like, my worst picture.
MONICA: "Byotch."
What is the purpose of this book?
Because it starts out as a joke. You make up--
It's a joke, yes, but then towards the end...
You make a joke of the mean book.
-But now what I'm seeing is... -Yes, laugh. You need it.
Hold on. That you've now posted everything
that Reality Von (Tea)se... -I printed off.
You printed out their entire grid.
Yes.
And what is this supposed to prove?
-This is "tranny twin." -Oh, that's...
It sounds like in trying to expose Jen,
what you did was hurt all of them.
-You did. -And--
-If--if--if--Hold on. -That was not the intention.
If Jen called her that, and you guys posted it...
Multiple, multiple times a day.
...what you're doing-- Okay, then what you're doing
is perpetuating something mean about her.
This is just--Okay, so can I go through this real quick?
-Yes. -Okay.
Tell me how it's helpful
blasting out into the world things about them...
-How is it helpful? -...that is horrible?
-How's that-- -What if we retweeted everything
your mom said about you every single day?
Repeated. Retweeted. Retweeted, retweeted, repeated.
Well, I mean, honestly, my mom already did that, so...
Yeah, but you don't see how it impacts us.
You're one person.
It impacts you when your mom does it.
I literally just said that I see how that hurt you,
but I'm telling you that-- -I don't get why...
-I don't get it. -This does not feel right.
-We're giving her... -You guys aren't listening, so--
Well, they are. They're--I... I mean...
-No, they're not. -How are you helping us?
We were trying to get out how awful she was.
I am sorry that that ended up hurting you.
It's not just me. It hurt everyone on this couch.
I gotta tell you something.
I'm kind of amazed that you're so surprised
that they're pissed off by this. -I really am.
-You are? -Because they were
such big fans of the page. -Who was a fan of the page?
-You guys all were.
-No, we were not. -Lisa, you messaged...
You called me a fuck fake stank bitch when I unfollowed.
This one's from Angie.
"When that was exposed on the page,
it was the best fucking day of my life."
Yeah. So what?
Did you post positive things about these women?
We did post positive things about the women.
-Okay. Okay. -We did try and support them.
-We did say nice things. -[scoffs]
What?!
Because it's one out of 10,000.
You're not a hero.
Based on the things she wrote, she did not like any of us.
So, why do you wanna be our friend?
Why do you wanna be here with us?
Because based on everything you wrote, you fucking hate us.
So, Monica, answer Lisa's question.
Do you wanna be their friends, or do you wanna be on the show?
I think both can be true, to be completely honest,
and I think-- -You want to be their friends?
Yeah. I genuinely feel bad because, truly--
What is wrong with me wanting to sit on this couch?!
You don't think I belong here, right?
Because that is what you have-- you have said several times.
-ANDY: That's not a crime. -I've never said that.
Guess what? I want you to get the fuck--
I don't feel safe staying at this house with you.
Okay, then leave. You can leave. You can fucking leave.
No, you get the fuck outta here.
Her plotting to get on the show is not a crime.
That's not a crime.
You going against all of us is the crime.
If you were so noble in your actions,
then why didn't she tell us all to begin with?
Why didn't she say, "I had your backs.
I'm here for you guys. I love you guys"?
-She would have led with that. -That's a good question.
-You would have led with that. -So, why not--
-Why not tell them? -You didn't lead with that.
You got busted and you fucking had to cover your ass.
I did not get busted. I knew from the jump that
this was gonna come out. -You got busted. You got busted.
If you knew it was gonna come out, why not lead with it?
You clearly led with the story about having the affair
with your brother-in-law. -LISA: And assisting Jen.
Because when we made this page...
-And assisting Jen. -...we said to the grave,
and it wasn't just me.
There were other people involved.
You hurt all of us. It's not just me.
Let's talk about the involvement of the page
and some of the videos that got leaked.
How did you get those videos? Because I know how
you got those videos. The same way you knew
I was going to meet Snoop Dogg with my friends.
I work hard so I can have anything I want.
-That's one time. -Now, if you're gonna judge me,
I want you to judge everybody here in this room
because-- -But they're not all like,
"Oh, I'm getting on a private jet with Snoop Dogg.
-I didn't say that to you. -"Oh, I got that--"
-I've never said that to you. -Yes, you did.
Okay, you don't remember that conversation.
That's not true, so I never said I did.
You're making shit up now. You made that up.
Okay, Lisa.
Monica, that never happened. You're lying.
I know how you got that information.
-How? -Jen Shah told me that story,
and so did you! -Because she logged into
their security system and was watching them for months.
-It was my security system. -You were logged--
-No, I was not-- -It's not your security system.
Yes, it was! So, you can choke on a dick.
Lisa, what are you accusing her of doing?
You logged into Jen and Sharrieff's security system.
I didn't log in. it was mine.
You--You set up Jen's security cameras.
She asked me to put it in my name, yes.
You had ability to watch Jen in her home
and hear what she was saying, is what you're saying.
-Yes. -ANDY: Yes.
-If I wanted to, yeah. -Which you did.
-And you did for months. -Which you did.
So, that's how you found out about the Snoop Dogg thing.
-No, that's not how I found out. -And that's where you got
the video of Jen yelling at Koa. That's where you got that.
No! I recorded that on my phone!
We have that-- No, we have it on here.
I recorded it on my phone. I don't give a shit what you say.
But the fact that you're-- you're more mad at me
for recording Jen throwing shit at human beings
than you are mad at Jen for doing it?!
-No. -Do you hear yourself?!
No. You're disgusting for doing that.
That's psychotic! That's psychotic. That's psychotic.
Hey, you guys are all talking at once.
-You're all talking at once. -Welcome to our world, Andy.
Lisa accused you of kind of stalking Jen's house
and driving by a lot.
-Did you do that? -You did. You were stalking.
You were stalking Jen.
I did not stalk Jen.
Driving by her house two or three times is not stalking.
Parking outside and saying you're gonna be friends
with the neighbors. -Oh, my God!
-We didn't park outside! -You're a mother
with four kids and single. -Guess what?! I posted that
on my Instagram! -Why are you driving by
Jen Shah's house? -I never fucking hid that shit.
-I never hid that shit. -Sick. Sick.
-You're sick! You're sick! -How do you define stalking?
You literally don't know shit about my life!
Don't fucking talk about my kids.
I don't ever talk about yours.
Keep my fucking kids out of your mouth!
-Oh, you talked about her kids. -They're in the car.
-No, I didn't! Never! -Yes, you did. Yes, you did.
-You did. -How do you define stalking?
I think that stalking is when you are repeatedly doing things
in front of-- -And you did it.
-No! -That's stalking.
You stalked her. You're a stalker.
When you are sitting there over and over,
you are going to her house. I never did anything
to her house. I never put anything.
I didn't step foot anywhere near it. Nothing!
A stalker is someone that watches.
You were watching her on her video cameras and driving by.
Oh, my God. Driving by someone's house is not stalking!
You don't live by Jen! You don't live by Jen.
-Shut up! -Yeah, but when you're 12,
not when you're--when you're 16. -No, not when you're 12!
-Not when you're 40. -Shut up, Lisa, seriously!
-Not when you're 40. -No one is stalking Jen.
-No one was stalking you. -You have four kids at home,
and you're a single mother with no income.
Do you have proof that she stalked Jen?
-Yes, we do. We do. -ANDY: Oh, you...
[Monica, whispering]
Is this you?
Yeah, that was one of the times we drove by. Yeah.
How many videos of her driving by do you have?
Probably...20.
[singsongy] Stakeout! Hey!
We got our binoculars, bitch.
MONICA: I'm in disguise driving by Jen's house.
-I'm gonna honk my horn. -MONICA: Don't you dare.
I don't need a restraining order for stalking.
MONICA: We are coming up on the house.
I just fucking saw Jen.
ANDY: What were you hoping to find on the drive-bys?
She wanted to get on the show, Andy.
This was about Jen! Do you understand that?!
Why were you driving by her house?
Did they--Did the FBI tell you to drive by her house?
Yeah, and she also owed us money.
To do what?
Catching her driving and drinking.
Catching her drinking and driving?
-Mm-hmm. -No.
So, they sent you after her instead of the police?
Absolutely not. She was being watched by several people.
-No. That's-- -And they wanted you--
-Bullshit. -They were watching her
over a decade as well.
And so they sent you to check to see if she was
drinking and driving? -No, they said any evidence
I have that she's drinking and driving.
-[laughter] -Okay, you guys are assholes.
I'm sorry. It's so funny.
Did the FBI tell you to drive by her house?
Yeah, and she also owed us money.
To do what?
Catching her driving and drinking.
Catching her drinking and driving?
-MONICA: Mm-hmm. -[laughter]
Okay, you guys are assholes.
I'm sorry. That's so funny.
I don't believe the FBI would send--
That's dangerous. That's a liability.
Because you guys are mean fucking girls.
But if she's in her house, she's not drinking or driving.
So, were you a mole for the FBI, then?
I wasn't an informant. I was a witness.
Let me ask you a question. With all the things the feds
had on Jen Shah, they asked you to go to their house...
I didn't say they asked me. I didn't say they asked me.
...to see if you could catch her drinking and driving.
Uh, we did that. They said anything we see...
She was defrauding elderly people.
-...to pr--You guys are... -It just seems weird. I'm sorry.
Let Andy talk to her. Let Andy talk to her.
-It's crazy. It's crazy. -I'm trying not to laugh.
-Just let Andy talk to her. -ANDY: Tell me. Clarify it.
-It's--It's unbelievable. -She's defrauding the elderly.
-How is it unbelievable? -Because it doesn't make sense.
MONICA: I was literally flying back and forth...
You were committed to hurting her,
like you were committed to hurting us.
...flying me back and forth. You guys don't know shit.
-No, it's not! -...to put you on the road
for the FBI? -So, but explain it.
Why were you driving by her house? Just...
I mean, well, we were curious, and also we were keeping an eye
to see if she was gonna drink and drive,
because that would be violating her probation.
Were you gonna put a light on and pull her over
and then give her a breathalyzer?
-How were you... -You call the police
when you see her driving drunk. -We don't need
a citizen's arrest for this one, honestly.
-Why are you leaving your kids-- -Why are you coming at me?!
Why are you defending a criminal?!
Is this coming out?
Why the fuck are you defending Jen?!
-I'm asking you a question. -So I--yes, you are!
-I'm not. -No! You are giving me
so much more shit! I've done nothing illegal.
I've done nothing to you. This is fucking crazy.
-This is about Jen. -It's illegal to access
someone's security system and watch them for months.
Let me ask you a question.
If she was driving by her former employer's,
who was up to no good
in the hope of...catching her or adding more evidence,
why do you care?
She wasn't driving by your houses.
She never got my address.
-Okay. -LISA: No, but I heard she did.
I don't have any of your addresses!
-I never drove by your house! -If she never stalked you guys,
why do you care if she drove by Jen's house?
Like, what do you care?
The capability it would take for a human being
to befriend someone as a fan, to beg to work for them,
to then to get the chance to work for them...
Oh, my God.
...then to infiltrate their lives,
to become their assistant, to install cameras in their home,
to watch their security footage, to take every opportunity
to take that, then post it and then spread it on social media,
that raises a few alarm flags for me
and makes me think
I don't necessarily want to be their friend.
That sounds like I have amazing time management skills...
Because if she did that to Jen, she will do it me.
-...by the way. -And she, in fact, has.
So, to hire someone
that contributed that and profited off of it
and then lied about it and then sat here with a Burn Book...
LISA: We dealt with this for three years.
-ANGIE: Let her say it, Lisa. -And she thinks
she's being iconic. It's not iconic to be a bully.
-You said that you condemn... -You're a bully.
-...cyberbullying unequivocally. -No, she's not.
-Yes, she is, and so are you. -No, she's not.
And she has admitted to cyberbullying us for three years
with a Burn Book. -You know exactly
what you're doing. You know exactly what you're doing.
...like it's some iconic, charming, funny thing. It's not.
And it's not even appropriate that we're joking about it.
-This has ruined... -We're not joking about it.
....my experience as a Housewife.
It's ruined every single one of our experiences as a Housewife.
-Are you joking? -Every Housewife
on every franchise would say, the only hard part
about this job is the trolls on social media...
-Yeah. -...that are relentless
about ourselves and about our families,
about our businesses, and if you could eliminate that
or at least create a gap or at least hold someone accountable,
it would change the experience for all of us.
And you would get higher caliber women
willing to expose their lives on television.
"Higher caliber women."
So, someone like me doesn't belong here?
That's exactly what I'm saying.
You guys brought her on knowing that she wanted
to fucking take every single one of us out,
and nobody gives a fuck.
-No one knew this at--at-- -Honestly, I--
-Did Bravo know? -No. No.
She's saying that she-- production knew.
Who do you think at production knew?
The first time I interviewed, I talked about it in my home
with production, that this was their plan.
-You told them in casting? -Yeah, the first time.
If you said, "I run a burner account,"
we wouldn't have cast you.
Okay.
I wanna ask about the Greek Mafia rumor,
because it seems, as it played out on the show,
very coincidental that the two of you
had a conversation that day that you went to lunch,
and you went to Meredith's store,
not for the first time...
-Mm-hmm. -...and you had a conversation
about the rumors relating to Angie.
And then a week or two later, you get a DM with tax records
and accusations about Angie K. being in the Greek Mafia.
I got a DM that was--
was predominantly, like, a variety of financial records
that all tied back to things that Monica had told me
coming back from Palm Springs about Angie
that I didn't know about prior to that.
-ANDY: And--And--Hold on. -Are you accusing her of lying?
So, did you have anything to do
with the DM that Meredith got about Angie K.'s finances?
-No, but I would admit that. -You told me you had evidence
of everything you told me on the plane to Palm Springs.
No.
That's what you said on the plane.
And you were going through a litany of things,
and I asked a lot of questions. -MONICA: Meredith. Meredith.
And one of them was, "Do you have evidence of all this?"
Both of us were. Both of us were.
I didn't have any of the information, Monica.
-So, let me ask you a question. -And then I kept
that information to myself. -ANDY: This--This--
You know that she has said that.
This is damning,
that she got DMs that related to your conversation.
Did you speak to someone else
about the conversation you had...
-I did not. -...with Meredith?
They just randomly appeared in her DM?
And did you get the same DMs?
She called me. I looked, and we had the same DMs.
-From the same account? -Yes.
I just really need everyone to be respectful for a minute,
because this is my business, and it's really important
that I have the opportunity to address this.
Um, basically, what they are accusing me of
is being a schemer and being a fraud.
And I've been working for 30 years. I'm self-made.
This takes away from my credibility.
-ANDY: Okay. -It's reckless to my business,
and it feels like it was a takedown,
like they wanted to ruin me as a business owner.
Who's they?
I don't know what...Well--
-Not me. -Okay, here's how I feel.
Monica has been pretending to be my friend and betrayed me
the minute that she could. She--
I never put anything into the universe.
I never repeated anything you said to me, Monica.
-I kept it to myself. -This is my problem, Andy.
Who brought it up on camera for the first time?
I did.
Can I just say something? You're...
You can't bring something out in front of the cameras,
like the gay rumors... -Yeah.
-Yes. -...and the thing, and then say,
"I didn't say it, I didn't say it," because it's you saying it.
-I said I didn't start it. -I understand, but--
But I absolutely said I repeated it.
But you're bringing it to life on worldwide television.
I got it, but I'm just trying to say at some point...
You're supporting it by asking for proof.
You got the information out there.
-Okay, well... -Okay, but go on.
And you doubled down on it
on "Watch What Happens Live" with Andy. You doubled down.
I did. That's what I heard.
Neither of us have ever filed bankruptcy.
I don't know why you're yelling at me.
You kept talking about it. "Ooh, Angie has a lien."
I had a lien in 30 years, one during a pandemic--
So, were you grateful that I brought it to you,
like you said in Bermuda or not? -Be quiet, Monica. Be quiet.
-Are you grateful or not? -Be quiet.
-You don't own a business. -Were you grateful or not?
-You work things out with... -If you really cared about her..
-Sounds like she wasn't. -Seriously, Whitney?
They came after my business, my marriage, my everything.
-Same same. -You don't have any of that to--
You don't have a marriage. You don't have a fucking business.
Don't you dare discredit small shops, literally.
-Oh, yeah! -Don't you fucking dare.
You're discrediting mine! I have multiple small shops.
Okay, stop. No, you guys are all--
Did they come after your swaddle business?
Yes! She was like, "You have a little swaddle business."
No, I didn't. I said, you're coming at me.
Yes, it's literally on camera.
You're a fucking... You're not a businesswoman.
-You have no swaddle business. -Do not come at me.
You take and I give, and that's the kind
of person you are. -Be quiet.
Everybody was struggling during COVID. I opened.
I'm surviving, and I'm thriving,
which is more than you can fucking say.
-Okay, well done. Thank you. -Um, we're sitting on--
in the same room on the same damn couch.
-Really? Yeah. Yeah. -Well, actually, you're
at the end, but I'm surviving and thriving just as you are.
You're up here 'cause you're a fucking bitch.
So, seriously, fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
You're in the hot seat 'cause you're a bitch.
-ANDY: Okay, okay, okay. -You're a bitch!
-LISA: You don't argue well. -Lisa, I'm not talking to you!
I'm talking to Angie. Seriously. Shut up.
I am a loyal friend. I'd rather sit here
than sit there and be a fucking low fucking brow rat
out of the fucking sewer. -Brown rat?
-Brow! Low brow rat! -ANDY: Low brow.
-Brown? Brown? -Stop trying to bring race
in this shit! -ANDY: No, she said "low brow."
+-You're such a scum! -You're disgusting.
-I sit here 'cause I'm integral. -You are seriously so gross.
You sit there 'cause you're a low brow dirtbag.
-You did this to her! -I...I literally--No, I didn't!
-You did it! -You did this to her!
I fucking said you were glad I told you!
-You were glad I told you! -No, no, no, no.
-Yes, you were! -You're a fucking piece of shit!
-On national television. -Yes, you were!
-ANDY: All right, stop! -You repeated it.
You didn't believe it, but you repeated it.
You're a fucking horrible person.
-Can I get in here? Please. -I'm not a horrible person.
Horrible people murder children. I'm not a horrible person.
If you cared about Angie, you would have pulled her aside
off camera and said... -MONICA: Meredith...
..."Meredith's saying these horrible things about you."
-In private. In private. -You don't have to throw it out
into the universe.
Not using cruel, crass, and homophobic slurs.
Okay, stop! Stop. Stop. You guys, stop.
I offered you pure information, and I discussed
the information you told me. -Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop.
***
One. Push one. Go, Andy.
Heather, you shocked the world when you claimed that
Jen gave you the black eye.
Yeah.
Tell us how it happened.
I...
I mean, honestly, it was a lot of drinking.
And the next morning, I woke up with the black eye.
I knew I'd gotten it from Jen.
I didn't know how, but I knew I'd gotten it from Jen.
She was the first person I texted. She came in the room.
She said, "Did I give that to you?"
And I said, "Don't worry. I'll cover."
Why was your inclination, "I'm gonna cover for her"?
I don't know. I was scared of her, I think.
Were you-- You were scared of her.
-I was scared of her. -And were you scared
at that point because she was in legal trouble?
I had been covering for her for three years.
I was not gonna stop with the black eye.
I was that in, and I was too scared to say anything.
I was terrified to say it.
I was still scared to say it at reunion.
I was still scared to say it in Bermuda,
but as I sat there, watching this happen again,
I realized that, like, I was contributing, kind of.
Well, we have some footage to share of San Diego.
***
ANDY: Let's--let's see that.
LISA: Oh, no.
ANDY: So, this is Jen coming to you room.
[audio unintelligible]
HEATHER: So, she says, "Thanks for letting me borrow this."
[unintelligible audio continues]
HEATHER: I say, "Absolutely."
[unintelligible audio continues]
HEATHER: "I did that to you?
I can't believe I did that to you."
[unintelligible audio continues]
I said, "Don't worry about it. I got you."
She was upset. We were both upset.
ANDY: Well, Heather, Jen has continued to deny
she gave you the black eye.
I'm s--Let me just start by saying I'm sorry.
I'm sorry to you. I'm sorry to...you guys.
[voice breaking] I'm sorry to the network.
I'm sorry to the audience.
I didn't know how to navigate it myself.
I knew that it was becoming bigger
and more than I could handle.
It was a horrible situation,
and I have lived through this,
and I knew the relentlessness of what would come,
and I lived a lot of that from it.
A lot of Reality Von (Tea)se was fixated on the black eye.
And I...
I don't know how to say other than, like,
I was scared, and I did what I always do.
I deflected with humor. It was in poor taste. It was horrible.
I don't know that it was humor.
-I-I thought...I mean... -Oh.
We said spider eggs. I mean, this is the thing.
-When the lawyers came in... -I didn't...
-Oh, this is bad. -...I have to assume
that you then started kind of freaking out.
I started freaking out because I didn't have that--
all I had was that she had told me
she had done it and that I said I'd cover for her.
I don't wanna get anyone in trouble, Jen,
but that's why I need you to, like, help me figure out
if someone wants to, uh, talk
about what really happened last night.
We need a cover story is what I'm saying right now.
Like, a spider laid eggs in your eyeball.
Or you might have poison in your eye.
I couldn't say how it happened.
ANDY: You went as far as to lie on your book tour
and say you thought you fell into a bedroom cabinet.
At another book tour stop,
you said someone may have broken into the house and hit you,
but production edited it out
because of a non-disparagement clause
between the rental company and production.
-These were a billion theories. -I know.
A billion theories, but I would never...
It's...I-I have to say, it's not funny...
-And that's why I apologize. -...to accuse the producers
or the production company... -I would ne--I...
-No. -I have--It's not.
...of covering up a crime and an assault.
It's not, and there was-- there--it's not.
It's not funny.
And that's why I led with I'm sorry.
I would have never have come clean if I didn't...
[voice breaking] if this hadn't happened.
You know what I mean? And that makes me sad, too.
I took a lot of hits for the black eye.
-Yeah, you did. No, you did. -Figuratively and literally.
No, you did, from the fans, too. I mean, it was...
-Oh, from the fans, it was... -Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I didn't go on social media for six months,
and I was too scared to accuse or say anything otherwise.
I-I don't...there-- I'm still scared.
I don't even wanna have to do it now.
Two questions-- is the grace that you are...
asking of everyone now
the same grace that should be given to her?
I can't answer that question because the way
that I handled it was to internalize and to--to--
and I'm not gonna--It's not noble, and she said her--
Well, but you did--you accused-- you accused production,
which is not internalizing it.
I mean, I didn't make an accusation.
I said it could have been-- I mean, it was a joke.
-Okay. -I said a good-looking producer,
you know, like, we made jokes about rough sex.
It was like, it was clearly in absurd humor,
and it wasn't posted online. It wasn't perpetuated.
It was not like that, Andy. It wasn't.
But to take it on myself
and to repress it and make it my responsibility,
I was the victim, but I was also supposed to be the person
that, like, told on her,
and I didn't have the capacity to do that.
Look, you lied to production, Bravo,
and even at one point said that
maybe a producer had done it to you,
which is very serious
because it puts people's reputations and jobs at risk.
Did you ever go to her and say this is getting bigger than...
-Yeah, we talked about it a lot. -And what did she say?
She said, "Unless they can show us the footage, we deny."
Wow. And did she thank you?
No. Jen Shah? She was never my friend.
She pretended to be my friend, and I fell for it.
-Wow. -And I will not fall
for a pretend friend again.
I was a different person then,
and I was worried about the retaliation.
I'm still worried about the retaliation.
-You are. -But there's been some distance.
Of course. There's enough distance now,
but it's more than that.
I was a different person when I started the show,
and the person that would
eat that shit then is not gonna do it now.
And it--it was a really pivotal moment for me in Bermuda.
I was sitting there. I kind of thought...
that you would say... "The gig is up. I'm sorry,
and I-I wanted to be here so badly
that I did all of this," but you didn't.
You spun it. You deflected.
And as I sat there thinking like, this is familiar to me,
I've been there before, and I, in fact, defended this behavior,
and I'm not gonna do it again.
I never want to revisit this type of toxicity.
And if this is part of the job, then maybe...
it shouldn't be part of the job.
Well, it shouldn't be part of the job.
But it is. You know, it's the worst part of being a Housewife.
-Is? -Is the social media.
Yes, that is true.
It's what I've said to every single person.
Monica, what do you think after hearing this from Heather,
after what she just said?
***
Monica, what do you think after hearing this from Heather,
after what she just said?
Watching that was really hard.
-Watching what? -That.
-Okay. -Her with Jen.
I do think that Heather and I...
more than...
I...more than what I know-- maybe they have gone through it.
Honestly, I think Angie, too.
Um, what about me?
-Uh...I didn't know-- -Just--Just let her finish.
-Just let her finish. -It's clearly about the attacks.
-Just let her finish. -Just let her say
what she wants to say. -It was about the attacks.
-No--No-- -You're gonna say what?
-...diminished. -Stop! I want her to say it.
I'm talking about physical abuse from Jen Shah.
-Okay, yes. -I don't think that you were.
-Were you? -Um, she almost beat me up
on a van, but maybe that doesn't count.
-Okay. -I've had fingers in my head.
MONICA: I'm--I'm talking about physical contact.
-ANDY: Okay. -Remember?
-So, you were gonna say-- -She had a drink--
Angie had a drink poured on her.
-Yes. -That, to me, is assault.
-Okay. -[voice breaking] And, um...
Heather can hate me all she wants. That's fine.
But you could never deny
that she and I went through that same exact trauma.
I went about it a different way. She kept it all in.
I blurted it all out. [sniffles]
And I'm not ever gonna take that away from her.
I completely understand the fear of retaliation.
I literally get phone calls now from people threatening me
because I have come out with so much about Jen
and my involvement in the federal trial. [sniffles]
-Yes. -And I completely understand
where she's coming from and why
she made the decisions that she did.
To the women, you all seemed shocked
that Heather finally claimed who gave her the black eye.
Now that you've had time to process it, I'm curious.
What do you think, Whitney?
It just makes me feel... terrible.
Like...
I get why Heather did it.
It's Stockholm Syndrome.
She put all of us, everything at risk.
But knowing who Jen Shah is and what she's capable of,
I know why Heather hid it.
I'm sorry you had to go through all that.
Last year, I was so upset with Heather.
I was like, "You put producers' lives at risk,
their jobs at risk." -Yeah.
I was furious with Heather.
And it's like this, like,
crazy feeling to know, like, Jen did it, and, like,
and I feel like, you know--
-You understand. -Yeah, I understand.
And then watching you on the couch last year,
-I felt like Heather's broken. -I was broken.
-Yeah, she was. -And, like, ashamed
and embarrassed of herself. -I was totally broken.
And then you feel like it's your fault and...
ANDY: Yeah. Yeah.
It's not fun, but, I mean, it's been a crazy...
Heather, can I come give you a hug?
I think it's been a year, and I never want to go
through it again. I just never wanna go through it again.
I never want that around me again, ever.
ANDY: Meredith?
I just--I understand 100% why
Heather did not wanna come clean with that. I do.
-You okay? -And I understand how hard
it has to be to do that, and I give a lot of grace there.
-I really do. -You know...
I'm so surprised that we are all this time later
still cleaning up the mess of this person
who really had such a chokehold.
-On everybody. -On everybody.
If she's watching this, you would say what to her?
I would say...
I'm no longer your bitch.
[voice breaking] And...
I regret believing in you.
I regret turning on my-- all of you... [sniffles]
in her defense. I regret fighting her fight.
I regret...
disrespecting my children and my family
and my opportunity here.
And I would say I'm glad that you're in prison
'cause I might not have had the guts to do it otherwise.
Mm-hmm.
Well...
I think you saying that to her directly,
which you just did, is a really powerful thing.
-LISA: Mm-hmm. -And I think, frankly,
there's nothing left to be said about it.
-I think you've done it. -Mm-hmm.
I love you.
Listen, the theme here seems to be
that Jen has made people do things that are not
maybe characteristic of who you really are.
So, is there any grace there to be given to Monica at all,
or it's...
I appreciate what you said, Monica,
and I think that you're right.
But the way that you handled it, and the way that it affected me
and the way that you came in today,
it hurt me more, and it didn't resolve anything for me.
It made it clearer to me and more real to me
about my own boundaries and how far I've come.
I mean, that collectively, how far we've all come,
because this is the best season we've ever had.
We enjoyed each other so much.
-We enjoyed every minute of it. -Like so many relationships.
-All of these pieces. -Major change.
It's great to see the new relationships bonding.
We love each other.
It's great to see you two together.
I'm so happy Meredith and Lisa have come together.
Yes.
Angie, it's great to see you integrate.
And it was so cool watching all the women celebrate you
in Bermuda and you saying,
"This is the best birthday I've ever had."
I mean, it really made me cheer at home watching.
I mean, it was-- it was really sweet.
It was a great day.
So, knowing all those good things that have happened,
is it too insurmountable
for you guys to move on as a group?
I guess that's the question. We may not answer it today.
You all may need a little bit of time.
Whitney, what do you think?
I have to be very careful and protect boundaries
that I've put up with relationships
that are not safe in my life.
And there has to be a clear line of trust
for me to be able to move forward.
And right now...
I think I'm even more confused leaving the reunion.
So, I don't trust Monica, and I don't trust my ability.
Like, I have--I can't put myself in that situation right now.
So, I don't have a strong answer for you other than no.
That's all I--the only word I can say,
and I'm sorry I can't give you a better answer. The--
This whole thing is triggering for me
and what I've been through personally in my life,
and I tend to say the wrong things at the wrong time.
[laughs] So, my answer is just no.
What would Monica have to say to you guys to make this okay?
-Nothing. -Nothing.
-What would she-- -Not after the last three years.
-There's nothing she could say. -I have to assume that there was
something that she could have come here and said
that you guys might have said... "Okay." No?
No.
Meredith?
I think it's very problematic to move forward
in a situation where trust has been completely decimated.
I promised you that you wouldn't leave
without feeling like you had said everything.
Is there anything else you feel like you want
to make clear or that has been misunderstood or...
I mean, I think there's a ton
that's been misunderstood, but...
Okay. Anything that's...
Here we are, so, uh, you know,
Is there anything that you feel strongly that...
that you wanna say?
[clicks teeth] No.
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No?
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We are back with our remaining moments
of season four of "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City."
Ladies, we're gonna take Whitney's game.
What's your warm and fuzzy?
And what's your cold and prickly from the season?
-Angie K. -Uh, my warm and fuzzy
was getting to share Greek Easter
and have friends and family come together and celebrate
and share the culture and all of our traditions,
and seeing the kids involved was really super special,
and having my dad and, uh, the Greek priest there.
Um, you know, I think for me, just the...
[imitating Meredith] little bit of the nastiness.
You know, just all of it... [laughter]
[normal voice] It was a lot.
It was something I didn't expect,
so just navigating through that, but came out a better person.
Whitney.
My warm and fuzzy
has to be just...
This sounds so cheesy, but that's me.
I-I am just proud I'm stronger this year,
and I'm glad I'm not in such a broken place
that I was the year prior.
-I think you all are. -And my--yeah.
My prickly was...
being let down by Monica.
Lisa?
I have so many warm and fuzzies. Like, I love the dynamic change.
I love that I'm better with Meredith.
I like that I have a better relationship with Heather,
and I love that Angie's here and Whitney,
and we're all in this good place.
And I have one more warm and fuzzy--Jack.
-Yes. -Like, just being able
to have all of that documented and, like,
see his growth and everything, it's so awesome.
And I'd have to say my prickly is...
-...the way we left Bermuda. -ANDY: Hmm.
Meredith?
Well, my warm and fuzzy was, um,
successfully churning butter.
-ANDY: Okay. -And--
That's your warm and fuzzy from the season?
-I was very proud of myself. -The butter churning. Yeah.
We're going to get you a Mason Jar
and some heavy cream.
She's gonna launch a butter line, I can feel it.
-Butter bath. -Meredith Rosenberg's...
-A butter bath? -Hello? Like a bath butter!
-ANGIE: Yeah. -ANDY: Oh, okay.
-Yes! -Oh, my God.
ANGIE: It was another merch moment for her.
Well, now, that's my warm and fuzzy.
-ANDY: Okay. -No, my cold and prickly
was having an off-camera conversation
where we have no, you know, way of backtracking.
Heather?
My warm and fuzzy
was the book event because I felt understood,
and actually Greek Easter and the book event
because it changed my relationship with Lisa
that has been difficult for three years.
Mm-hmm.
And it was a powerful reset for just everything in our lives.
And I'm just really, really grateful for that.
And then my cold and prickly was, you know,
the...Reality Von (Tea)se in Bermuda.
Monica.
[clicks teeth] I would say that my cold and prickly is Bermuda,
and my warm and fuzzy is Bermuda.
Right. It was like the best of times
and the worst of times.
Will you go back to Bermuda?
-No. -No?
Just kidding. No, I would actually like
to take my kids one day.
And maybe see the family without the cameras
and without your mom interfering.
Maybe.
Okay. Well, the season ended on a not-great note.
I think we made some good progress here tonight.
I am hoping that we can toast
to some of the fun times this season.
Bring out the Dark and Stormies, guys.
-Oh, my gosh. -Whoo!
-Let's belly up to the bar. -We're not in a Sprinter van.
-Wow, this is a Dark and Stormy. -MEREDITH: Oh, those are cute.
-ANGIE: Oh, my gosh. How cute. -MEREDITH: They're so cute.
-What is in these? -Wow.
I think it's rum-based. I didn't drink it in Bermuda.
Just beware. They're very strong.
-Oh, look at the cute little... -Isn't that adorable?
-It's Andy Cohen on the lime. -Oh, my God.
-Is that you? -Okay, give us a Greek toast.
-Yes. -Well, you know, we would just
say "Stin yia mas" to your health,
and that's what we do before we have a drink.
-Stin yia mas. -Stin yia mas.
-See ya. -Cheers.
-Limes off. -Thank you all.
-MEREDITH: I got it. -Cheers.
-Mmm. -[laughs]
It's delicious. You can't stop.
ANGIE: It's--It's kind of gross, isn't it?
-Oh, this is not my jam. -It's delicious.
-Delicious? -What is it, ginger ale?
It's a little strong. It's just strong.
You should have had it in Bermuda.
They were five times more strong.
-Ugh. -It's a good straw.
It's been a long night. I think we could all use a bath, right?
-Yes. -I agree!
Let's take a-- Let's take a Jacuzze.
-In a hot tub. -Jacuzzi in this place.
-ANGIE: In the snow. -Thanks for watching, everybody.
I'm Andy Cohen. Good night.