1 00:00:00,222 --> 00:00:03,095 Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 2 00:00:03,095 --> 00:00:05,619 Okay, listen, I don't ever wanna----ing 3 00:00:05,619 --> 00:00:08,274 talk about you again or to you. Stop talking to me. 4 00:00:08,274 --> 00:00:09,710 - Stop talking to me. - You put hands on people. 5 00:00:09,710 --> 00:00:11,842 It's not that----ing deep, Monica. 6 00:00:11,842 --> 00:00:13,888 May they find peace. 7 00:00:13,888 --> 00:00:16,978 Seth and I have been through a lot of ups and downs, 8 00:00:16,978 --> 00:00:19,154 so we've decided to start a podcast 9 00:00:19,154 --> 00:00:20,416 about relationships. 10 00:00:20,416 --> 00:00:22,114 If you were to go get a divorce, 11 00:00:22,114 --> 00:00:25,291 it is not favorable for women in Utah. 12 00:00:25,291 --> 00:00:27,684 I was worried that I would lose my children 13 00:00:27,684 --> 00:00:29,425 and that he would leave me. 14 00:00:29,425 --> 00:00:32,037 I am so focused on my daughter 15 00:00:32,037 --> 00:00:35,475 that sometimes I forget that I'm a wife. 16 00:00:35,475 --> 00:00:37,390 I know my husband feels neglected. 17 00:00:37,390 --> 00:00:39,957 Maybe I should add intimacy to my to-do list. 18 00:00:41,568 --> 00:00:43,570 I enjoyed tonight so much. 19 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:47,878 Like, you're still figuring out where you are in the journey. 20 00:00:47,878 --> 00:00:51,491 This is definitely a big breakthrough for me and Lisa. 21 00:00:51,491 --> 00:00:53,667 I need to be more open to your experience 22 00:00:53,667 --> 00:00:55,538 and the fact that, like, instead of just being like, 23 00:00:55,538 --> 00:00:56,931 it's not fair. 24 00:00:56,931 --> 00:00:59,151 You can't wear strapless dresses and drink tequila. 25 00:00:59,151 --> 00:01:02,763 I think it's okay to have both. 26 00:01:15,776 --> 00:01:17,865 Hi, Mommy! 27 00:01:19,519 --> 00:01:25,046 Hi. To what do I owe this wonderful surprise? 28 00:01:25,046 --> 00:01:26,787 I just miss you so much, 29 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:31,444 and I feel like there's so much going on. I need some updates. 30 00:01:31,444 --> 00:01:33,402 Uh, there is a lot going on. 31 00:01:33,402 --> 00:01:36,101 It's so good to see you. You look so good. 32 00:01:36,101 --> 00:01:38,364 Sunkissed. 33 00:01:38,364 --> 00:01:41,236 Life is so good over here, but I... 34 00:01:41,236 --> 00:01:43,412 am sad I missed the book signing 35 00:01:43,412 --> 00:01:45,327 'cause I was talking to the girls about it, 36 00:01:45,327 --> 00:01:47,199 and I just want to hear, like, who ca-- 37 00:01:47,199 --> 00:01:48,591 Like, was it, like, a good turnout? 38 00:01:48,591 --> 00:01:51,072 It was really, really cool. Like, everyone came. 39 00:01:51,072 --> 00:01:52,726 Lisa came. Lisa-- 40 00:01:52,726 --> 00:01:55,729 Lisa wrote, like, a custom rap to introduce me. 41 00:01:55,729 --> 00:01:58,732 ♪ Away in SLC in her new crib in her bed ♪ 42 00:01:58,732 --> 00:02:01,865 ♪ This best-selling author laid down her sweet head ♪ 43 00:02:01,865 --> 00:02:04,477 It was like a big reset for us 44 00:02:04,477 --> 00:02:05,913 'cause there's been so much conflict with Jack-- 45 00:02:05,913 --> 00:02:07,958 Drama going on. Yeah. - Yeah, and Jack going 46 00:02:07,958 --> 00:02:10,657 on a mission, and I was so, like, worked up about it 47 00:02:10,657 --> 00:02:12,224 and triggered by it. 48 00:02:12,224 --> 00:02:14,182 And, like, it was a really cool thing for her 49 00:02:14,182 --> 00:02:16,706 to, like, show up for me, 50 00:02:16,706 --> 00:02:19,187 just to have that type of support just felt, like, 51 00:02:19,187 --> 00:02:20,928 really fun to have everyone together. 52 00:02:20,928 --> 00:02:23,452 I'm really, like, grateful, 53 00:02:23,452 --> 00:02:26,325 and I wanna throw, like, a luncheon for everybody, 54 00:02:26,325 --> 00:02:29,110 but I want it to be, like a spinoff of the Mormon thing, 55 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:30,633 but, like, something super fun. 56 00:02:30,633 --> 00:02:32,853 You have to keep it on theme for the girls. 57 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:36,465 Right? Like a homemaking night, but not homemaking. 58 00:02:38,989 --> 00:02:43,255 Since it's the month of April and April 6, 1830-- 59 00:02:43,255 --> 00:02:45,953 that's the founding of the Church, you know? 60 00:02:45,953 --> 00:02:48,347 That's a fact that you should have memorized in Young Women. 61 00:02:48,347 --> 00:02:51,785 And, like, we can kind of... 62 00:02:51,785 --> 00:02:55,223 Well, I thought we could do, like, pioneer crafts, 63 00:02:55,223 --> 00:02:58,052 have, like, pioneer comfort foods. 64 00:02:58,052 --> 00:03:00,924 Do you think that's stupid? 65 00:03:00,924 --> 00:03:02,796 I wanna thank everyone for coming to the book party, 66 00:03:02,796 --> 00:03:05,581 and I wanna do it in a way that celebrates kind of the fun, 67 00:03:05,581 --> 00:03:07,975 kitschy aspects of our culture, what Lisa would call 68 00:03:07,975 --> 00:03:10,586 "embarrassing" aspects of growing up Mormon. 69 00:03:10,586 --> 00:03:13,198 Nothing gives me more pleasure than forcing Lisa 70 00:03:13,198 --> 00:03:14,895 to face traditional Mormonism 71 00:03:14,895 --> 00:03:17,637 and participate in Mormon handicraft. 72 00:03:17,637 --> 00:03:20,901 I mean, don't you want to see Lisa Barlow in a pioneer bonnet? 73 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:22,511 I think that's genius. 74 00:03:29,997 --> 00:03:32,042 Hey. 75 00:03:32,042 --> 00:03:33,740 - Hey. - What are you doing? 76 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:36,830 - Texting Anthony. - Texting Anthony? 77 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:40,355 Yeah. We're just talking about prom and the plan. 78 00:03:47,188 --> 00:03:50,496 - You stole my blanket, I see. - It was out here for the taking. 79 00:03:50,496 --> 00:03:52,324 It was. 80 00:03:52,324 --> 00:03:55,196 Did you show him your dress, by the way? The color for his tie? 81 00:03:55,196 --> 00:03:56,632 - Yeah, I told him. - Okay. 82 00:03:56,632 --> 00:03:59,244 Weren't you prom queen your senior year? 83 00:03:59,244 --> 00:04:01,202 Yes, I was. 84 00:04:02,769 --> 00:04:04,553 Did I ever show you the pictures? 85 00:04:04,553 --> 00:04:05,641 No. 86 00:04:05,641 --> 00:04:07,861 Oh, my gosh. It's my time to shine. 87 00:04:07,861 --> 00:04:11,038 I'm gonna get 'em, and you're gonna see. 88 00:04:11,038 --> 00:04:12,692 Oh, Lord. 89 00:04:12,692 --> 00:04:15,303 You're gonna die. I don't even-- 90 00:04:15,303 --> 00:04:16,913 Why do you have so many photo albums? 91 00:04:16,913 --> 00:04:20,700 Because once upon a time, we had these things called cameras. 92 00:04:20,700 --> 00:04:23,746 And it wasn't your phone, 93 00:04:23,746 --> 00:04:27,097 and you had to, like, buy film and then go and develop it, 94 00:04:27,097 --> 00:04:30,710 leading to photo albums. 95 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:32,277 - Just show me the pictures. - Okay. 96 00:04:32,277 --> 00:04:35,541 Okay. Seriously, oh, my gosh. 97 00:04:35,541 --> 00:04:37,804 Look at my boyfriend-- Actually, let's not look at him. 98 00:04:37,804 --> 00:04:39,719 Oh, let's not look at that, either. 99 00:04:39,719 --> 00:04:41,721 Oh, my gosh. Okay, look. 100 00:04:41,721 --> 00:04:45,333 This one right here--this was my senior prom. Look it. 101 00:04:46,595 --> 00:04:47,857 Aw. 102 00:04:47,857 --> 00:04:50,686 And Vovó has my crown. Of course. 103 00:04:50,686 --> 00:04:53,472 - Look at Vovó. - That's Vovó? 104 00:04:53,472 --> 00:04:54,777 - Yes. - No, it's not. 105 00:04:54,777 --> 00:04:56,910 - You're lying. - Look at me pulling her hair. 106 00:04:56,910 --> 00:04:59,695 The aggression started from such a young age. 107 00:04:59,695 --> 00:05:02,089 I already knew who she was out the womb. 108 00:05:03,482 --> 00:05:06,354 But this was my first flight ever to Bermuda, 109 00:05:06,354 --> 00:05:08,748 which was where Nana was born. 110 00:05:08,748 --> 00:05:12,012 And we all went-- the whole family. 111 00:05:12,012 --> 00:05:16,408 It was Christmas. Look how beautiful Bermuda is. 112 00:05:16,408 --> 00:05:18,497 Oh, my gosh. 113 00:05:18,497 --> 00:05:20,325 I, like, miss this. 114 00:05:20,325 --> 00:05:22,457 I wanna take you guys to Bermuda. 115 00:05:25,765 --> 00:05:28,942 Well, let's just go. Let's just get on a plane and go. 116 00:05:28,942 --> 00:05:31,423 Okay. I actually have something really special 117 00:05:31,423 --> 00:05:33,381 that I wanted to show you. 118 00:05:33,381 --> 00:05:35,383 This photo album... 119 00:05:35,383 --> 00:05:37,472 Not gonna get emotional. 120 00:05:37,472 --> 00:05:39,256 You say that now. 121 00:05:39,256 --> 00:05:42,782 Okay. 122 00:05:45,654 --> 00:05:50,920 So, when my dad left when I was 4... 123 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,792 my mom, like, destroyed everything. 124 00:05:52,792 --> 00:05:56,361 So, I don't even know what my dad looks like. 125 00:05:56,361 --> 00:05:59,668 - There's no pictures of him? - No. 126 00:05:59,668 --> 00:06:03,324 Vovó like, ripped 'em all up, threw everything away. 127 00:06:03,324 --> 00:06:07,110 So, it was important to me 128 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:09,112 for you to never feel that. 129 00:06:09,112 --> 00:06:11,680 So... 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,162 These are all pictures-- this photo album is yours now-- 131 00:06:15,162 --> 00:06:19,427 of me when I was pregnant with you. 132 00:06:19,427 --> 00:06:22,996 But... 133 00:06:22,996 --> 00:06:24,911 it's also of your dad. 134 00:06:27,261 --> 00:06:30,612 Your biological dad. 135 00:06:30,612 --> 00:06:32,309 I got pregnant very young. 136 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:35,008 I married her father at the time. 137 00:06:35,008 --> 00:06:36,531 He left for work one day, 138 00:06:36,531 --> 00:06:40,709 and my daughter was crawling on the floor. 139 00:06:40,709 --> 00:06:43,233 And I could hear her playing with something, 140 00:06:43,233 --> 00:06:47,847 and it was a clear plastic bag full of OxyContin. 141 00:06:47,847 --> 00:06:50,502 In that moment, I grabbed my daughter, 142 00:06:50,502 --> 00:06:52,460 and I never looked back. 143 00:06:52,460 --> 00:06:56,290 I started dating Mike when Bri was 1. 144 00:06:56,290 --> 00:06:57,944 So, that has always been Dad. 145 00:06:57,944 --> 00:07:01,338 This is not the first time that Bri has seen these photos. 146 00:07:01,338 --> 00:07:05,908 So, Bri is very well aware that Mike adopted her. 147 00:07:05,908 --> 00:07:08,868 Because when I was going through all of this, I went to therapy. 148 00:07:08,868 --> 00:07:11,566 And the number one thing that the therapist told me was 149 00:07:11,566 --> 00:07:13,481 always be honest. 150 00:07:13,481 --> 00:07:17,137 I don't want you to ever feel like how I felt, 151 00:07:17,137 --> 00:07:21,315 which was like a whole part of me is missing. 152 00:07:21,315 --> 00:07:23,883 Vovó's dressed up for my birth. 153 00:07:23,883 --> 00:07:25,798 Of course, Vovó was dressed up for your birth 154 00:07:25,798 --> 00:07:28,017 because it was her day. 155 00:07:38,463 --> 00:07:41,161 All right, watch your step. 156 00:07:41,161 --> 00:07:44,643 Thanks. 157 00:07:44,643 --> 00:07:46,427 Love your outfit. 158 00:07:47,515 --> 00:07:49,648 - Hi. - Hey. 159 00:07:49,648 --> 00:07:50,779 - Hey, Shawn and Angie. - All right. 160 00:07:50,779 --> 00:07:52,477 - We'll be right this way. - Thank you. 161 00:07:56,045 --> 00:07:57,482 Thank you. 162 00:07:59,353 --> 00:08:00,702 Feels kinda good to be out, huh? 163 00:08:00,702 --> 00:08:02,095 - Kind of. - Yeah. 164 00:08:02,095 --> 00:08:03,662 - Hi. How are you? - Good to see you again. 165 00:08:03,662 --> 00:08:05,272 - Good to see you. Thank you. - Sparkling? 166 00:08:05,272 --> 00:08:06,839 - Of course. - Yes, please. 167 00:08:06,839 --> 00:08:08,797 Are you interested in cocktails tonight? Glass of wine? 168 00:08:08,797 --> 00:08:10,843 You know, you guys get Angie a great cabernet 169 00:08:10,843 --> 00:08:12,279 every time we get in here. 170 00:08:12,279 --> 00:08:15,238 Yes, we will do that. And for you, Shawn? 171 00:08:15,238 --> 00:08:16,762 I'll have a, uh, cup of coffee. 172 00:08:16,762 --> 00:08:18,503 When you go out with younger women like me, 173 00:08:18,503 --> 00:08:20,287 you gotta drink coffee. 174 00:08:20,287 --> 00:08:21,288 Yeah. 175 00:08:21,288 --> 00:08:22,594 Right. 176 00:08:34,127 --> 00:08:35,476 Thank you. 177 00:08:37,783 --> 00:08:39,175 I wanted to check and see if you guys 178 00:08:39,175 --> 00:08:40,612 have made a selection this evening. 179 00:08:40,612 --> 00:08:43,049 I'm gonna do your-- your special chicken. 180 00:08:43,049 --> 00:08:44,311 - Okay. - And then I'm gonna have 181 00:08:44,311 --> 00:08:46,487 the steak, medium rare, please. Thank you. 182 00:08:50,883 --> 00:08:53,929 So, what do we talk about? 183 00:08:53,929 --> 00:08:57,150 We haven't been out, the two of us, for years. 184 00:08:57,150 --> 00:09:00,327 It's like a first date. Like, what do we say to each other? 185 00:09:01,676 --> 00:09:03,591 - Do you like that? - It's so good. 186 00:09:03,591 --> 00:09:04,940 Mm-hmm. 187 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:07,421 Mmm. 188 00:09:07,421 --> 00:09:12,600 You know, just something that I've been wanting to share. 189 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,167 And I know it's hard with Elektra around, 190 00:09:14,167 --> 00:09:16,865 but obviously at home, it's like rainbows and unicorns, 191 00:09:16,865 --> 00:09:19,172 and you always want to keep it positive and-- 192 00:09:19,172 --> 00:09:21,174 Right. 193 00:09:21,174 --> 00:09:24,220 It's like we're passing, right? Like, we're picking her up. 194 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:26,005 We're going to lessons. You're on the phone. 195 00:09:26,005 --> 00:09:28,224 I'm on the phone. You're returning emails. 196 00:09:28,224 --> 00:09:29,704 It's like we're together, 197 00:09:29,704 --> 00:09:32,011 but it's like we're not really together. 198 00:09:32,011 --> 00:09:33,969 When I'm alone with you, 199 00:09:33,969 --> 00:09:38,670 sometimes I feel, like, lost for words. 200 00:09:38,670 --> 00:09:40,672 This sounds so dumb, but I don't even know 201 00:09:40,672 --> 00:09:42,369 what music you like anymore. 202 00:09:42,369 --> 00:09:45,459 All the country music you play in your car-- 203 00:09:45,459 --> 00:09:48,070 I'm just cringing the whole ride. 204 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:51,291 When I first met you, you didn't listen to country. 205 00:09:51,291 --> 00:09:53,510 I--I've always listened to country. 206 00:09:53,510 --> 00:09:55,687 Not with me in your car. 207 00:09:55,687 --> 00:09:57,732 Then you didn't care what I did 208 00:09:57,732 --> 00:09:59,038 because you were so smitten and in love. 209 00:09:59,038 --> 00:10:00,735 It didn't matter what I was doing. 210 00:10:00,735 --> 00:10:02,781 I still love it, and I should be allowed to love it. 211 00:10:02,781 --> 00:10:04,521 But it's--it's annoying. 212 00:10:04,521 --> 00:10:06,175 - It's annoying. - Like I said, 213 00:10:06,175 --> 00:10:07,481 when I get in yours, 214 00:10:07,481 --> 00:10:09,396 and you're listening to "The Humpty Dance"-- 215 00:10:09,396 --> 00:10:11,833 I am listening to "The Humpty Dance." 216 00:10:11,833 --> 00:10:14,401 - But that's annoying. - Why is that annoying? 217 00:10:18,927 --> 00:10:20,276 So, what if "The Humpty Dance" 218 00:10:20,276 --> 00:10:21,800 makes me feel like I'm 30 years old again? 219 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,062 - And I don't say anything. - You know what I mean? 220 00:10:23,062 --> 00:10:24,716 I just let you play "The Humpty Dance." 221 00:10:24,716 --> 00:10:25,978 - No, you hate it. - I hate it, 222 00:10:25,978 --> 00:10:27,414 but I let you play it. - You complain. 223 00:10:27,414 --> 00:10:29,285 No, I don't. I don't anymore. 224 00:10:31,766 --> 00:10:33,681 It's not even about the music. 225 00:10:33,681 --> 00:10:37,076 That's part of why I haven't loved being alone with you. 226 00:10:37,076 --> 00:10:40,296 Like, I don't wanna feel like I'm annoying to my own husband. 227 00:10:40,296 --> 00:10:43,822 You know... 228 00:10:43,822 --> 00:10:46,346 it's been two years since you and I have been alone. 229 00:10:50,089 --> 00:10:52,395 You know, we kind of lose the relationship stuff. 230 00:10:52,395 --> 00:10:54,397 We're--We're worried about everything else. 231 00:10:54,397 --> 00:10:56,095 We're worried about Elektra, the business, 232 00:10:56,095 --> 00:10:58,750 starting something new, the house, building this. 233 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:00,273 And then all of a sudden you're looking around, 234 00:11:00,273 --> 00:11:02,754 and it's like, okay, do we still have stuff in common? 235 00:11:04,973 --> 00:11:09,021 We're not connecting on a relationship kind of a level. 236 00:11:09,021 --> 00:11:14,026 How do you see us reprioritizing our relationship? 237 00:11:17,943 --> 00:11:19,771 - More time together. - Yeah. 238 00:11:19,771 --> 00:11:21,947 Alone, you know? 239 00:11:21,947 --> 00:11:24,079 And I think Elektra's totally cool with that. 240 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:25,733 I know she is. It's just, I felt like 241 00:11:25,733 --> 00:11:28,301 I need more of your attention, too. 242 00:11:28,301 --> 00:11:29,737 I tend to hold things in, 243 00:11:29,737 --> 00:11:31,957 and I don't wanna be a complainer. 244 00:11:31,957 --> 00:11:34,307 And it felt good to let this out. I feel lighter. 245 00:11:34,307 --> 00:11:37,484 And I can see that some of the challenges 246 00:11:37,484 --> 00:11:39,007 that Shawn and I have between us 247 00:11:39,007 --> 00:11:41,183 are things that we can actually work on. 248 00:11:41,183 --> 00:11:43,185 It's time that we worry about us. 249 00:11:43,185 --> 00:11:45,187 It's time that we worry about our relationship. 250 00:11:45,187 --> 00:11:47,973 It's time that we have a no-compromise attitude 251 00:11:47,973 --> 00:11:50,453 in terms of having this time together. 252 00:11:53,718 --> 00:11:54,893 Coming up... 253 00:11:54,893 --> 00:11:57,852 We are going to churn butter by hand. 254 00:11:57,852 --> 00:12:00,420 Just shake it, shake it. Takes six minutes. 255 00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,161 You know what, Heather? This is dirty. 256 00:12:02,161 --> 00:12:04,119 You guys have done this for longer than six minutes, 257 00:12:04,119 --> 00:12:05,642 so just get to it. 258 00:12:29,057 --> 00:12:30,319 I didn't see anything. 259 00:12:30,319 --> 00:12:31,799 Is it bad? Did I ruin my car? 260 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:35,455 Aah! 261 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:39,154 Oh, my gosh. 262 00:12:48,773 --> 00:12:50,513 - Hey. - Hi! 263 00:12:50,513 --> 00:12:51,776 - How are you? - Hi! 264 00:12:51,776 --> 00:12:55,692 I just hit your rock on my car. 265 00:12:55,692 --> 00:12:58,086 The plastic part hit that rock. 266 00:12:58,086 --> 00:12:59,435 That giant boulder? Yes. 267 00:12:59,435 --> 00:13:01,568 - I wanna have that removed. - You need to. 268 00:13:01,568 --> 00:13:04,049 This is not how I wanted to start this new chapter 269 00:13:04,049 --> 00:13:05,964 in my relationship with Lisa, 270 00:13:05,964 --> 00:13:07,487 having her slam into the boulder. 271 00:13:07,487 --> 00:13:09,445 I don't even know if my homeowner's insurance 272 00:13:09,445 --> 00:13:10,795 is activated yet. 273 00:13:10,795 --> 00:13:13,101 I'm gonna have to, like, start a GoFundMe 274 00:13:13,101 --> 00:13:14,581 for taking out her Porsche. 275 00:13:14,581 --> 00:13:17,410 I got some fast food burgers and chicken nuggets. 276 00:13:17,410 --> 00:13:19,760 Okay, all my favorite things. And thanks for coming. 277 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,806 Yeah, thanks for having me. Do you have a scooper? 278 00:13:21,806 --> 00:13:23,242 Do you wanna use this-- 279 00:13:23,242 --> 00:13:25,113 No, this is just two best friends hanging out. 280 00:13:25,113 --> 00:13:26,419 - Oh, I love that. - Having a good time. 281 00:13:26,419 --> 00:13:27,812 - We're in the bestie phase. - Two, uh... 282 00:13:29,291 --> 00:13:32,251 Me and Heather are in a new phase in our relationship. 283 00:13:32,251 --> 00:13:34,906 Like, she's doing everything right. 284 00:13:34,906 --> 00:13:36,995 She's got all my favorite treats here. 285 00:13:36,995 --> 00:13:38,866 I've got Wendy's with extra barbecue sauce, 286 00:13:38,866 --> 00:13:41,129 shortbread cookies from my favorite bakery. 287 00:13:41,129 --> 00:13:43,610 Literally, I hope we can stay in this space, 288 00:13:43,610 --> 00:13:46,439 because it's the first time in, like, five years. 289 00:13:47,657 --> 00:13:50,182 Do you have a paper towel or napkin? That's like... 290 00:13:50,182 --> 00:13:51,487 - Yeah, I need one. - I cannot believe 291 00:13:51,487 --> 00:13:52,967 you just opened a barbecue sauce, like, 292 00:13:52,967 --> 00:13:56,101 with a white shirt on a white couch. 293 00:13:56,101 --> 00:13:57,754 Girl, I'm a pro. This is-- this is easy for me. 294 00:13:57,754 --> 00:13:59,931 With heart-shaped nails. 295 00:13:59,931 --> 00:14:01,889 That was for Jack's mission call. 296 00:14:01,889 --> 00:14:04,152 - I think he's ready to go. - I'm sure. 297 00:14:04,152 --> 00:14:05,675 I mean, just to get away from us. 298 00:14:05,675 --> 00:14:07,634 Like, I think he just wants to do his own thing. 299 00:14:07,634 --> 00:14:09,636 It's exciting. You know, he's going to Colombia. 300 00:14:09,636 --> 00:14:11,203 He's, like, irritated that I keep saying 301 00:14:11,203 --> 00:14:12,465 his mission's bougie, 'cause I-- 302 00:14:12,465 --> 00:14:15,033 Yeah, that's irritating. Why do you do that? 303 00:14:15,033 --> 00:14:17,252 And then he's like, "Mom, it's not a vacation. 304 00:14:17,252 --> 00:14:19,472 It's not a shopping trip." Yeah, but in my head, it's like-- 305 00:14:19,472 --> 00:14:20,865 It's literally not. 306 00:14:20,865 --> 00:14:22,518 Listen, this is my first kid going on a mission. 307 00:14:22,518 --> 00:14:26,261 You're only allowed to shop on one day, and it's groceries. 308 00:14:26,261 --> 00:14:29,395 Anyhow, how your event was so good, though, Heather. 309 00:14:29,395 --> 00:14:31,745 I was, like, thrilled to have everyone there. 310 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:34,530 I'm mostly excited about, like, the place we're in right now. 311 00:14:34,530 --> 00:14:35,836 - Mm-hmm. - And I feel like 312 00:14:35,836 --> 00:14:37,969 I'm in a good place with everyone, 313 00:14:37,969 --> 00:14:39,579 and we really haven't rewarded ourselves 314 00:14:39,579 --> 00:14:41,624 for everything we've been through, 315 00:14:41,624 --> 00:14:43,322 and I wanna plan a trip. 316 00:14:43,322 --> 00:14:44,714 Oh, good. Where are we gonna go? 317 00:14:44,714 --> 00:14:46,586 - Where do you wanna go? - Well, tropical for sure. 318 00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:48,283 Ooh. Ooh, I like that. 319 00:14:48,283 --> 00:14:49,981 I went out with Monica last night. 320 00:14:49,981 --> 00:14:51,634 Oh, you did? 321 00:14:51,634 --> 00:14:53,810 We went to this new little tiki parlor lounge. 322 00:14:56,422 --> 00:14:58,380 Cheers! 323 00:14:59,642 --> 00:15:01,818 She was telling me that she used to, like, 324 00:15:01,818 --> 00:15:03,908 spend her summers in Bermuda. 325 00:15:03,908 --> 00:15:06,040 So, I still have, like, family in Bermuda. 326 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,216 In Bermuda? The Bermuda Triangle? 327 00:15:08,216 --> 00:15:11,524 - Bitch, the Devil's Triangle. - Oh, that's so crazy. 328 00:15:11,524 --> 00:15:12,917 And I was like, "So, you're telling me 329 00:15:12,917 --> 00:15:14,701 that we have people in Bermuda?" 330 00:15:14,701 --> 00:15:16,790 What if we got everybody together and went to Bermuda, 331 00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:18,400 like, for your birthday? 332 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,186 Wait, I would die! I would seriously die. 333 00:15:21,186 --> 00:15:24,537 But I said, "I wanna go on this trip, but, like, 334 00:15:24,537 --> 00:15:29,281 I, uh, wanna go with Lisa, and you have to apologize." 335 00:15:29,281 --> 00:15:32,153 You have to make up with Lisa if we do it, 336 00:15:32,153 --> 00:15:33,981 because she's gotta be invited. 337 00:15:35,069 --> 00:15:38,290 - Okay, fine! - Thank you. 338 00:15:38,290 --> 00:15:40,292 Let's announce the trip to everyone at the pioneer lunch. 339 00:15:40,292 --> 00:15:43,164 - Yeah. - Yeah. 340 00:15:43,164 --> 00:15:44,513 After all the progress we've made, 341 00:15:44,513 --> 00:15:46,080 I do not want you to think that this is, like... 342 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,690 - Yeah, no, I get it. - ...a bitch move, 343 00:15:47,690 --> 00:15:49,257 that I'm trying to, like, cause problems. 344 00:15:49,257 --> 00:15:52,608 Like, I really think that she's gonna make things right, 345 00:15:52,608 --> 00:15:54,567 and I think we can have a good time in Bermuda. 346 00:15:54,567 --> 00:15:57,657 I-I don't care if she's there, but she's not my problem. 347 00:15:57,657 --> 00:15:59,311 I don't even need an apology from her. 348 00:15:59,311 --> 00:16:01,400 Like, I'm just not interested. 349 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,923 Yeah. 350 00:16:16,241 --> 00:16:19,287 - Hello. - Hi. 351 00:16:19,287 --> 00:16:21,202 - How's it going? - Good. How about yourself? 352 00:16:21,202 --> 00:16:23,988 Really good. I have a friend joining me. 353 00:16:25,163 --> 00:16:28,035 Rawr! Look at you. 354 00:16:28,035 --> 00:16:29,645 - Hey. - You look beautiful. 355 00:16:29,645 --> 00:16:32,257 - So do you. - Pretty in pink, girl. 356 00:16:32,257 --> 00:16:33,693 - I ordered some oysters. - Ooh, I'm ready for anything. 357 00:16:33,693 --> 00:16:37,349 And then the Egg N' Chips, some rosé. 358 00:16:37,349 --> 00:16:41,353 Why don't I just do, like, a pinot noir and steak tartare? 359 00:16:41,353 --> 00:16:42,484 - I'll do that. - Okay. 360 00:16:42,484 --> 00:16:43,703 Okay. Thank you. 361 00:16:43,703 --> 00:16:46,184 - Hi. - I don't mean to cut you off. 362 00:16:46,184 --> 00:16:49,100 - Thank you. These look amazing. - They're so good. 363 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:50,884 I have so much I wanna talk to you about. 364 00:16:50,884 --> 00:16:53,365 Do you know I haven't been having any girl time? 365 00:16:53,365 --> 00:16:54,757 And I feel like I've been spending 366 00:16:54,757 --> 00:16:57,325 more girl time with you and getting out more. 367 00:16:57,325 --> 00:16:59,675 And I have loved it and needed it so much. 368 00:16:59,675 --> 00:17:01,590 We're always taking care of everyone else, 369 00:17:01,590 --> 00:17:03,853 and I think it's really important for us 370 00:17:03,853 --> 00:17:05,768 to get together and take care of ourselves. 371 00:17:05,768 --> 00:17:09,337 It is. Like you, I have kids. I have my businesses. 372 00:17:09,337 --> 00:17:10,860 I don't even have time for my husband. 373 00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:13,037 I talk to Lisa more than I talk to my husband, right? 374 00:17:13,037 --> 00:17:15,169 How are you and Shawn? 375 00:17:15,169 --> 00:17:18,520 We hadn't had a date night in two years, 376 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,653 and we finally went out to dinner the other night. 377 00:17:20,653 --> 00:17:21,784 Two years. 378 00:17:21,784 --> 00:17:23,699 For about 15 minutes, it was like-- 379 00:17:23,699 --> 00:17:26,180 The awkward silence? 380 00:17:26,180 --> 00:17:27,529 - It's awkward silence... - I know. 381 00:17:27,529 --> 00:17:28,878 ...because Elektra is always with us. 382 00:17:28,878 --> 00:17:31,316 I experienced that lately, too, where I'm like, 383 00:17:31,316 --> 00:17:33,100 I actually don't know what to say to you. 384 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:35,276 Like, when we were first married, 385 00:17:35,276 --> 00:17:37,539 Justin came home to a home-cooked meal, 386 00:17:37,539 --> 00:17:39,106 wife and lingerie under the clothes. 387 00:17:39,106 --> 00:17:40,934 - Like, I was like... - Every guy's dream. 388 00:17:40,934 --> 00:17:42,544 ...the 1950s, like... 389 00:17:42,544 --> 00:17:44,459 - Yeah. - And I loved it, though. 390 00:17:44,459 --> 00:17:46,896 But then I wanted more, and I wanted to develop myself. 391 00:17:46,896 --> 00:17:48,289 And I have noticed, 392 00:17:48,289 --> 00:17:51,205 especially with Justin going back to work, 393 00:17:51,205 --> 00:17:53,425 like, now we're both just doing our own thing, 394 00:17:53,425 --> 00:17:55,209 and there's, like, a void. 395 00:17:55,209 --> 00:17:57,342 Yeah. Yeah. 396 00:17:57,342 --> 00:18:00,127 As a couple, I just... I want him to hear me, right? 397 00:18:00,127 --> 00:18:01,563 - Yeah. - Like, I...I need to be heard 398 00:18:01,563 --> 00:18:03,478 because we're business partners. 399 00:18:03,478 --> 00:18:07,743 Are you feeling like... you have a better work life 400 00:18:07,743 --> 00:18:09,876 than you do marriage? 401 00:18:09,876 --> 00:18:14,750 We haven't made time, which is, like, embarrassing to say. 402 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:18,711 We have not made time to be husband and wife, right? 403 00:18:18,711 --> 00:18:20,234 So, it's like, we're never alone. 404 00:18:20,234 --> 00:18:21,888 When do you have sex? 405 00:18:21,888 --> 00:18:24,586 We're, like, fighting, like, even to get together 406 00:18:24,586 --> 00:18:26,197 with each other, like, once a week. 407 00:18:26,197 --> 00:18:29,461 I feel like I need to go home and organize more date nights 408 00:18:29,461 --> 00:18:31,811 and, like, organize, like, more alone time. 409 00:18:31,811 --> 00:18:36,032 - Don't organize it. Just do it. - Do it, do it, do it, do it. 410 00:18:36,032 --> 00:18:39,123 What I'm missing right now is, like, having my husband back 411 00:18:39,123 --> 00:18:41,125 the way that I had him. 412 00:18:41,125 --> 00:18:42,604 I know. 413 00:18:42,604 --> 00:18:43,866 Justin and I got to a point, though, Ange, 414 00:18:43,866 --> 00:18:48,175 where it was just, like, the work is so hard, 415 00:18:48,175 --> 00:18:50,395 where literally, like, last November, 416 00:18:50,395 --> 00:18:53,659 it was our anniversary, and we went up to Stillwell Spa, 417 00:18:53,659 --> 00:18:55,400 and we literally asked each other. 418 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,793 I just asked him, like, "Do you still wanna do this?" 419 00:18:59,578 --> 00:19:02,581 And he's like, "Do you?" And I was like, "I don't know." 420 00:19:02,581 --> 00:19:05,279 Every marriage has its ups and downs, 421 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:07,629 but Justin and I's current issue 422 00:19:07,629 --> 00:19:11,155 is that we are not the same people that we were 423 00:19:11,155 --> 00:19:13,287 when we got married 14 years ago. 424 00:19:13,287 --> 00:19:18,466 We are now trying to navigate how to run our household 50/50. 425 00:19:18,466 --> 00:19:20,860 I'm no longer a stay-at-home mom. 426 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:23,210 I have two businesses. I'm very busy. 427 00:19:23,210 --> 00:19:24,646 And the way that we communicate 428 00:19:24,646 --> 00:19:26,909 as a married couple is different than it used to be. 429 00:19:26,909 --> 00:19:29,869 I'm more outspoken than I have been in the past. 430 00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:34,613 So, it's just all of those things combined. 431 00:19:34,613 --> 00:19:37,398 You guys seem so together. Looking at you from the outside, 432 00:19:37,398 --> 00:19:38,573 you guys seem together. - Well....yeah. 433 00:19:38,573 --> 00:19:40,575 Justin hates when I say this, 434 00:19:40,575 --> 00:19:43,361 but I don't think it's natural to be married and monogamous. 435 00:19:43,361 --> 00:19:44,884 Well, we're--we're like, we are animals. 436 00:19:44,884 --> 00:19:46,233 And if you read about animals, they don't stay-- 437 00:19:46,233 --> 00:19:47,974 I'm doing a damn good job at it... 438 00:19:47,974 --> 00:19:49,628 - We are. - ...but it's hard. 439 00:19:49,628 --> 00:19:51,717 Animals don't stay with the same mate 440 00:19:51,717 --> 00:19:53,458 their whole life unless they're a duck. 441 00:19:53,458 --> 00:19:54,937 - Did you know that? - What? 442 00:19:54,937 --> 00:19:58,114 See, I thought ducks would be sluts. 443 00:20:13,608 --> 00:20:17,264 Look. My little Oreo "M" cookies. 444 00:20:17,264 --> 00:20:19,135 Look how cute they are. 445 00:20:23,879 --> 00:20:26,404 Where do you want Justin and Whitney to sit? 446 00:20:26,404 --> 00:20:29,581 Um, I don't know. Wherever you think. 447 00:20:29,581 --> 00:20:31,583 Seth and I have wanted to get Whitney and Justin 448 00:20:31,583 --> 00:20:33,498 on the podcast for a little while now. 449 00:20:33,498 --> 00:20:35,761 And, you know, with the way things have been 450 00:20:35,761 --> 00:20:38,024 with me and Whitney, that was not an easy ask. 451 00:20:38,024 --> 00:20:41,462 One thing you are, amongst many positive things, 452 00:20:41,462 --> 00:20:43,072 is you are emotionally aware. 453 00:20:43,072 --> 00:20:44,465 Thank you. 454 00:20:44,465 --> 00:20:46,293 They would be amazing on our podcast. 455 00:20:46,293 --> 00:20:50,123 But after a couple cocktails, we knew we'd get a yes. 456 00:20:52,865 --> 00:20:54,432 They're here, honey! 457 00:20:54,432 --> 00:20:56,172 Oh, fab. Let them in. 458 00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:57,609 - Hey! - Hey! 459 00:20:57,609 --> 00:20:58,784 Group hug, group hug, group hug. 460 00:20:58,784 --> 00:21:01,395 Look at this podcaster with headphones. 461 00:21:01,395 --> 00:21:02,701 Thank you guys so much for coming. 462 00:21:02,701 --> 00:21:04,311 - Thanks for having us. - Yes. Look at this view. 463 00:21:04,311 --> 00:21:05,834 We're excited to see your place. 464 00:21:05,834 --> 00:21:07,358 Yes. Hi! 465 00:21:12,493 --> 00:21:14,321 That's actually a great look. 466 00:21:14,321 --> 00:21:16,845 This is actually, I think, 467 00:21:16,845 --> 00:21:20,066 my favorite photo of the two of you. 468 00:21:20,066 --> 00:21:23,330 Seth, your setup is really not pretty. 469 00:21:23,330 --> 00:21:24,810 I'm not done. 470 00:21:24,810 --> 00:21:26,768 'Cause you're a dirty, stinky boy. 471 00:21:26,768 --> 00:21:29,815 I am. I'm always a dirty, stinky boy. 472 00:21:29,815 --> 00:21:33,166 - So is Justin. - I actually bathe regularly. 473 00:21:33,166 --> 00:21:37,562 Can I publicly apologize for commenting on your bathtub? 474 00:21:37,562 --> 00:21:38,780 - Can I see your bathtub? - Oh, my God. 475 00:21:38,780 --> 00:21:39,999 Can we all go get in the bathtub? 476 00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:44,786 - The bathtub is ready. - We're so good on the bathtub. 477 00:21:44,786 --> 00:21:47,833 Question 19--would you like to take a bath with us? 478 00:21:50,792 --> 00:21:53,317 Okay. Anyway, well, welcome back 479 00:21:53,317 --> 00:21:56,363 to "Hanging by a Thread" with Meredith and Seth Marks. 480 00:21:56,363 --> 00:22:00,193 Joining us, Whitney and Justin Rose. 481 00:22:00,193 --> 00:22:03,065 I'm just curious with the theme, "Hanging by a Thread," 482 00:22:03,065 --> 00:22:05,154 why were we your first couple invited? 483 00:22:05,154 --> 00:22:07,635 The whole concept is to talk about relationships 484 00:22:07,635 --> 00:22:09,420 and interesting relationships. 485 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:10,682 It doesn't mean that your relationship 486 00:22:10,682 --> 00:22:12,292 is currently hanging by a thread, 487 00:22:12,292 --> 00:22:16,252 but there is something of interest in your relationship 488 00:22:16,252 --> 00:22:17,732 that we thought would make you 489 00:22:17,732 --> 00:22:20,779 an excellent couple to come on... 490 00:22:20,779 --> 00:22:22,215 - Oh, that's an honor. - ...and be a guest. 491 00:22:22,215 --> 00:22:23,695 - We're happy to be here. - Yeah. 492 00:22:23,695 --> 00:22:26,306 And I think people are delusional if they don't think 493 00:22:26,306 --> 00:22:28,395 marriage is hanging by a thread every second. 494 00:22:28,395 --> 00:22:29,875 It's always hanging by a threat. 495 00:22:29,875 --> 00:22:31,746 I'm gonna go to question 18 right away. 496 00:22:31,746 --> 00:22:33,139 Oh. 497 00:22:33,139 --> 00:22:36,229 Craziest place you guys ever had whoopee. 498 00:22:36,229 --> 00:22:38,710 That one time I hid under your desk and got caught. 499 00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:40,842 - No. No. - I walked in, 500 00:22:40,842 --> 00:22:42,366 and I hid under the desk. - Excuse me. 501 00:22:42,366 --> 00:22:45,369 Like, dear Jesus, please don't... 502 00:22:45,369 --> 00:22:48,110 - I'm gonna ask that. - So, question 19? 503 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:51,026 Under the desk with a woman standing in the room. 504 00:22:51,026 --> 00:22:54,508 - HR. The head of HR. - Stop. No. 505 00:22:54,508 --> 00:22:57,163 - Mm-hmm. - We're gonna leave it there. 506 00:22:57,163 --> 00:23:02,124 You guys are authentic AF. 507 00:23:02,124 --> 00:23:06,433 What's the hardest thing you guys ever went through? 508 00:23:06,433 --> 00:23:07,869 Take us through it. 509 00:23:07,869 --> 00:23:09,393 Hardest thing we ever went through? 510 00:23:09,393 --> 00:23:10,611 Yeah. 511 00:23:10,611 --> 00:23:15,529 Um... I would say when his dad died. 512 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:20,752 I was physically holding him when he passed. 513 00:23:20,752 --> 00:23:22,928 Justin couldn't physically be there, 514 00:23:22,928 --> 00:23:26,453 so I...just stepped up, and I did it, 515 00:23:26,453 --> 00:23:30,588 and I held his dad's hand. 516 00:23:30,588 --> 00:23:33,025 We put his mom and dad's hands together. 517 00:23:33,025 --> 00:23:34,679 It was like the real-life "Notebook," 518 00:23:34,679 --> 00:23:40,119 because... that's what you do for your partner. 519 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,948 That's amazing. 520 00:23:42,948 --> 00:23:44,776 Meredith, you look a little emotional right now. 521 00:23:44,776 --> 00:23:46,734 - Yeah. - I know, 'cause... 522 00:23:46,734 --> 00:23:48,867 - And that's really beautiful. - Beautiful. 523 00:23:48,867 --> 00:23:50,477 - That's really beautiful. - Mm-hmm. 524 00:23:50,477 --> 00:23:53,132 - You're so lucky, man. - I know. 525 00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:55,221 So, to Justin's credit, that's easy for me to step up 526 00:23:55,221 --> 00:23:58,703 in that moment 'cause he steps up for me every day. 527 00:23:58,703 --> 00:24:01,662 Justin, you know, when he married me, 528 00:24:01,662 --> 00:24:03,664 he's not only signing up for me, 529 00:24:03,664 --> 00:24:06,754 he's supported my dad through his sobriety. 530 00:24:06,754 --> 00:24:08,582 When we've had bad news about my siblings, 531 00:24:08,582 --> 00:24:10,323 Justin has stepped in and helped. 532 00:24:10,323 --> 00:24:11,846 He's helped my mother. 533 00:24:11,846 --> 00:24:15,067 That's marriage, and that's being with your partner. 534 00:24:15,067 --> 00:24:17,504 The sh-- that I've put that man through, 535 00:24:17,504 --> 00:24:20,594 just me working my own stuff out, 536 00:24:20,594 --> 00:24:22,291 most people would have left. 537 00:24:22,291 --> 00:24:25,164 Like, technically, I should be on husband seven. 538 00:24:27,340 --> 00:24:31,170 Everything you said, I think is probably both cathartic for you, 539 00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:34,521 but also very good for all of our listeners to hear, 540 00:24:34,521 --> 00:24:36,044 and hopefully we, you know, help some people 541 00:24:36,044 --> 00:24:38,482 with whatever they're struggling with, 542 00:24:38,482 --> 00:24:40,005 so thank you so much. 543 00:24:40,005 --> 00:24:43,530 I love you guys, and I'm so happy we did this today. 544 00:24:43,530 --> 00:24:44,879 - Is that a wrap? - That's a wrap. 545 00:24:44,879 --> 00:24:46,402 That's a wrap! 546 00:24:46,402 --> 00:24:47,665 Whoo-hoo! 547 00:24:49,710 --> 00:24:51,059 Coming up... 548 00:24:51,059 --> 00:24:53,366 Okay. There's a game that we're gonna play. 549 00:24:53,366 --> 00:24:58,980 Our wagon has too much weight. Who do you throw off your wagon? 550 00:25:01,983 --> 00:25:04,246 Wow. 551 00:25:29,620 --> 00:25:32,013 Hi. 552 00:25:32,013 --> 00:25:33,493 - Oh, hi, Heather. - Are you Emily? 553 00:25:33,493 --> 00:25:34,842 Yes. So good to see you. 554 00:25:34,842 --> 00:25:36,365 Oh, it's so nice to meet you in person. Hi. 555 00:25:36,365 --> 00:25:37,584 - How are you doing? Good? - Everything looks awesome. 556 00:25:37,584 --> 00:25:39,107 - Thank you. - I was just worried 557 00:25:39,107 --> 00:25:40,892 about the weather, but it seems like it might hold. 558 00:25:40,892 --> 00:25:43,547 It's gonna be beautiful. Yes, and this is pretty here. 559 00:25:43,547 --> 00:25:44,591 - This looks spectacular. - Yes. 560 00:25:44,591 --> 00:25:46,027 - Show me everything. - Okay. 561 00:25:46,027 --> 00:25:47,942 - This is so wonderful. - So... we have your caterer. 562 00:25:47,942 --> 00:25:49,944 - He is back in the cooking-- - Oh, Chef Ortega? 563 00:25:49,944 --> 00:25:51,250 - Yeah, Chef. He's in the-- - Has he been great? 564 00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:52,860 Yes, and a bartender. He's all set up there. 565 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:54,949 Okay. Wonderful. We've got their bonnets and aprons. 566 00:25:54,949 --> 00:25:57,299 This is gonna be the hard sell. 567 00:25:57,299 --> 00:25:59,171 If they knew this was happening, they wouldn't come. 568 00:25:59,171 --> 00:26:00,694 I got the message in Palm Springs 569 00:26:00,694 --> 00:26:03,044 that these ladies do not like to dress up. 570 00:26:03,044 --> 00:26:05,481 But the bonnets and aprons-- they're a must. 571 00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:08,920 I wanna pick mine right now based on my outfit, 572 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,399 what color I want to do. 573 00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:12,314 I want these prima donnas 574 00:26:12,314 --> 00:26:16,536 to feel a little bit of the grit that created the state of Utah. 575 00:26:16,536 --> 00:26:19,626 These bonnets are brimmed to keep the sun from our face, 576 00:26:19,626 --> 00:26:21,585 to keep the dust out of our mouths, 577 00:26:21,585 --> 00:26:25,066 to keep us safe as we trudged across the plains. 578 00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:28,417 - Well, hello! - Oh, hi! 579 00:26:28,417 --> 00:26:29,897 - How are you? - Good. 580 00:26:29,897 --> 00:26:32,291 Meredith Marks with her Styrofoam cup. 581 00:26:32,291 --> 00:26:35,163 Let me introduce you to our barkeep. 582 00:26:35,163 --> 00:26:38,645 This is a jalapeño blackberry margarita. 583 00:26:38,645 --> 00:26:40,647 It's not sweet at all. 584 00:26:40,647 --> 00:26:41,692 Want to try one of those? All right. 585 00:26:41,692 --> 00:26:43,302 Hey! 586 00:26:43,302 --> 00:26:45,652 - Hi. Mwah. - Okay. I dressed for spring. 587 00:26:45,652 --> 00:26:47,523 - I know. - Thank you. 588 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:49,308 - It's Utah weather. - Oh, no. 589 00:26:49,308 --> 00:26:50,831 Why are there bonnets and dresses here? 590 00:26:50,831 --> 00:26:52,616 - Because I know--Listen. - Oh, my gosh, Heather Gay. 591 00:26:52,616 --> 00:26:54,008 I can't tell you. It's a surprise. 592 00:26:54,008 --> 00:26:55,575 - Oh, my gosh. - But you're-- 593 00:26:55,575 --> 00:26:57,359 - It's gonna be worth it. - Um... 594 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,013 - No more costumes. - We do not do costumes anymore. 595 00:26:59,013 --> 00:27:00,406 - No. - Oh, good. 596 00:27:00,406 --> 00:27:02,016 I would never make you guys do a costume. 597 00:27:02,016 --> 00:27:04,410 I would, however, ask you to partake in honoring 598 00:27:04,410 --> 00:27:06,151 our shared heritage, which is not a costume. 599 00:27:06,151 --> 00:27:07,935 Um, what shared heritage? 600 00:27:07,935 --> 00:27:10,372 You can pick the color that complements your outfit. 601 00:27:10,372 --> 00:27:13,898 Those aren't my roots. Are we really putting these on? 602 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,816 Okay, let me see. Actually, you look really cute in this. 603 00:27:18,816 --> 00:27:20,556 It doesn't look bad. 604 00:27:20,556 --> 00:27:22,558 - You look almost virginal. - Why don't we take a picture? 605 00:27:22,558 --> 00:27:24,430 Are you not gonna tie your bow? 606 00:27:24,430 --> 00:27:27,738 - What the hell? - That's what I said! 607 00:27:27,738 --> 00:27:29,653 - What are you wearing? - Oh, my God. 608 00:27:29,653 --> 00:27:33,526 What do you mean? You don't recognize our native attire? 609 00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,354 What the [bleep] is happening? 610 00:27:35,354 --> 00:27:37,356 You wrote a book about leaving the Mormon Church. 611 00:27:37,356 --> 00:27:39,924 Why are we going right back to where it started? 612 00:27:39,924 --> 00:27:41,229 - Are you being serious? - Yes. 613 00:27:41,229 --> 00:27:42,753 - This is for you. - As long as 614 00:27:42,753 --> 00:27:47,366 we are not making vows, I can go along with it, I think. 615 00:27:47,366 --> 00:27:49,847 Wow, you... [laughs] Hi! 616 00:27:49,847 --> 00:27:51,239 How are you? 617 00:27:51,239 --> 00:27:53,807 Pick your bonnet and apron. 618 00:27:53,807 --> 00:27:55,722 That goes with the cream. 619 00:27:55,722 --> 00:27:57,071 Look at you! 620 00:27:57,071 --> 00:27:59,247 - Okay. How are you? - Pioneer Marks over here. 621 00:27:59,247 --> 00:28:01,902 Oh, my gosh. She looks so good. Hi, Lisa. 622 00:28:04,252 --> 00:28:05,776 Oh. 623 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,433 I woke up today and decided to choose peace. 624 00:28:13,653 --> 00:28:16,743 So, yay. Happy to be here. 625 00:28:16,743 --> 00:28:20,442 How dare you? - It's pioneer... 626 00:28:20,442 --> 00:28:22,923 - I am not wearing a bonnet. - Oh, my God. 627 00:28:22,923 --> 00:28:24,882 How dare you? Look at my hair. 628 00:28:24,882 --> 00:28:26,666 I know. 629 00:28:26,666 --> 00:28:28,799 Oh, my God. 630 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:30,844 - Wait. - Little Bo Peep and her sheep. 631 00:28:30,844 --> 00:28:32,672 - That's your sheep. - Hello, my little sheep. 632 00:28:32,672 --> 00:28:34,282 Baa. 633 00:28:34,282 --> 00:28:35,849 - Baa-d girl. - I don't know. 634 00:28:35,849 --> 00:28:38,547 - We just go, "b-i-itch." - Baa-itch. 635 00:28:41,115 --> 00:28:43,117 Okay, I...I would like to make a toast 636 00:28:43,117 --> 00:28:45,990 to all of my sister wives. 637 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:48,079 I wanted to say thank you to you guys 638 00:28:48,079 --> 00:28:50,646 for showing up for the book event, 639 00:28:50,646 --> 00:28:52,170 for my reading of "Bad Mormon." 640 00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:54,520 And it reminded me April is the month 641 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,609 that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 642 00:28:56,609 --> 00:28:59,307 was founded--April 6, 1830. 643 00:28:59,307 --> 00:29:01,440 And so I wanted to have some fun today 644 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,009 and focus on the fun aspects of that--of our heritage. 645 00:29:05,009 --> 00:29:07,011 We're gonna do some fun pioneer crafts, 646 00:29:07,011 --> 00:29:08,795 so I hope you know how to churn butter by hand. 647 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:12,799 So, in honor of our differences, 648 00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:15,933 but also the things that bring us together, cheers. 649 00:29:15,933 --> 00:29:17,891 - Cheers. - Cheers. 650 00:29:17,891 --> 00:29:19,632 Wait, what did they say in Pioneer times? 651 00:29:19,632 --> 00:29:22,330 They said, "Get your ass over to that barrel 652 00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:23,854 and keep your mouth shut. You're a woman." 653 00:29:25,159 --> 00:29:28,249 So, we are going to churn butter by hand, 654 00:29:28,249 --> 00:29:30,164 and all you need is heavy cream 655 00:29:30,164 --> 00:29:31,818 and some salt if you like salted butter. 656 00:29:31,818 --> 00:29:35,691 You take your jar, and you're gonna fill the cream up halfway. 657 00:29:37,824 --> 00:29:41,349 These types of crafts are deeply embedded in our culture. 658 00:29:41,349 --> 00:29:43,699 There are stores everywhere where you can buy jars 659 00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:46,398 to churn butter and yarn for handkerchief dolls. 660 00:29:46,398 --> 00:29:49,793 This is not something that I've had to seek out. 661 00:29:49,793 --> 00:29:52,839 How do you think I found pioneer bonnets and aprons 662 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:54,145 on a moment's notice? 663 00:29:54,145 --> 00:29:55,711 Just shake it. Shake it. 664 00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:57,844 It's gotta hit the top of the lid and the bottom. 665 00:29:57,844 --> 00:29:59,019 - Takes six minutes. - Shake. 666 00:29:59,019 --> 00:30:00,934 All you have to do is shake it. 667 00:30:00,934 --> 00:30:03,023 You're churning the butter, but you're churning it by hand. 668 00:30:03,023 --> 00:30:05,591 Okay. What is this? The maraca churn? 669 00:30:05,591 --> 00:30:07,114 That is not gonna churn your butter. 670 00:30:07,114 --> 00:30:09,203 It has to hit the top of the jar. 671 00:30:09,203 --> 00:30:11,205 It has to, like, be vigorous. 672 00:30:11,205 --> 00:30:13,686 - You gotta, like... - I was gonna say... 673 00:30:13,686 --> 00:30:15,166 It only takes six minutes. 674 00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:17,081 You guys have done this for longer than six minutes, 675 00:30:17,081 --> 00:30:18,604 so just get to it. 676 00:30:22,216 --> 00:30:24,349 - Angie! - You guys! 677 00:30:24,349 --> 00:30:27,787 - I need you to really dig deep. - Two hands! Here we go! 678 00:30:27,787 --> 00:30:29,571 See, Monica got it. 679 00:30:29,571 --> 00:30:30,964 Ahh! 680 00:30:30,964 --> 00:30:32,661 Okay, so let's all let our butter sit, 681 00:30:32,661 --> 00:30:34,098 and we'll assess it in a minute. 682 00:30:34,098 --> 00:30:36,187 I'm gonna take you on to our next wonderful craft. 683 00:30:36,187 --> 00:30:39,843 I raised my children that once you start something, 684 00:30:39,843 --> 00:30:41,496 you have to finish it. 685 00:30:41,496 --> 00:30:43,455 I don't see any butter on the table. 686 00:30:45,109 --> 00:30:46,806 - Okay, so, um... - What are we doing, Heather? 687 00:30:46,806 --> 00:30:48,373 When resources were small, 688 00:30:48,373 --> 00:30:51,680 the pioneer children, or parents, probably the moms, 689 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,596 would have to go find, like, a pine cone or a rock, 690 00:30:54,596 --> 00:30:57,208 and they would take one of their handkerchiefs, 691 00:30:57,208 --> 00:30:59,427 draw a face, and tie a little knot 692 00:30:59,427 --> 00:31:02,082 in all four corners of the handkerchief, 693 00:31:02,082 --> 00:31:03,910 and that makes, like, little hands and feet. 694 00:31:03,910 --> 00:31:04,998 - Oh. - So, it's a doll. 695 00:31:07,696 --> 00:31:10,482 Whitney, yours looks like a giant, old-fashioned lollipop. 696 00:31:10,482 --> 00:31:12,614 Sister Gay is not - ing around. 697 00:31:14,790 --> 00:31:16,967 Okay, pencils down. 698 00:31:16,967 --> 00:31:18,751 Meredith, present your doll to the group. 699 00:31:18,751 --> 00:31:20,361 This is my Pink Pioneer. 700 00:31:20,361 --> 00:31:22,363 Oh. 701 00:31:22,363 --> 00:31:26,106 She's definitely wearing the icy bling. 702 00:31:26,106 --> 00:31:27,455 - I love that. - She has jewels. 703 00:31:27,455 --> 00:31:29,805 They'll cut her hands off for that on the trail. 704 00:31:29,805 --> 00:31:31,938 I have Trina, the Trekker. 705 00:31:33,635 --> 00:31:35,507 Say hello to Margaret. 706 00:31:37,944 --> 00:31:40,642 - This is Celestial. - Oh. 707 00:31:40,642 --> 00:31:42,470 Okay. This is Eunice. 708 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:45,778 She's a good-time girl. Watch her churn better. 709 00:31:47,823 --> 00:31:50,652 Can you see your little hand? 710 00:31:50,652 --> 00:31:52,176 Watch her sweep. 711 00:31:54,482 --> 00:31:58,095 This is Molly to represent Molly Mormon, 712 00:31:58,095 --> 00:32:00,227 which at one point I was. 713 00:32:01,489 --> 00:32:03,622 And now she bears a scarlet letter 714 00:32:03,622 --> 00:32:07,626 to remind all the good other pioneers on the trail, 715 00:32:07,626 --> 00:32:09,367 since all of you are goody-goodies, 716 00:32:09,367 --> 00:32:12,979 that this is really what the Church is about, 717 00:32:12,979 --> 00:32:15,547 which is forgiveness... 718 00:32:15,547 --> 00:32:19,246 and welcoming the black sheep into the fold. 719 00:32:26,123 --> 00:32:27,646 Coming up... 720 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:29,300 - No! Come for her! - Monica, bring it down a level! 721 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,650 She's the one that sits down and starts with me. 722 00:32:31,650 --> 00:32:33,173 Monica. I wanna say something. 723 00:32:33,173 --> 00:32:34,566 - You're being crazy. - Monica. 724 00:32:34,566 --> 00:32:36,481 - Aah! - ...anything too... 725 00:32:47,187 --> 00:32:48,754 I'm over here. 726 00:32:50,756 --> 00:32:53,672 So, are the bonnets staying on during the meal? 727 00:32:53,672 --> 00:32:55,369 I think it's appropriate. 728 00:32:55,369 --> 00:32:57,937 I'm keeping the bonnet on 'cause it's keeping the heat in. 729 00:32:57,937 --> 00:33:01,419 Are we allowed to take a break from churning to eat, 730 00:33:01,419 --> 00:33:03,595 or do we just keep churning? - Yes! 731 00:33:03,595 --> 00:33:05,249 No, you definitely wanna take a break. 732 00:33:06,467 --> 00:33:08,469 Here, you guys, the menu is, like, 733 00:33:08,469 --> 00:33:10,732 created around pioneer comfort foods. 734 00:33:10,732 --> 00:33:13,083 We've got, like, ribs... 735 00:33:13,083 --> 00:33:14,823 some cornbread with Utah honey. 736 00:33:14,823 --> 00:33:18,349 This is mac and cheese, which is a pioneer comfort food 737 00:33:18,349 --> 00:33:20,438 that our ancestors would have wanted us to enjoy. 738 00:33:20,438 --> 00:33:22,222 Okay. - You know, I'm only a quarter 739 00:33:22,222 --> 00:33:23,441 of the way through the Book of Mormon, 740 00:33:23,441 --> 00:33:25,182 but I'm pretty sure in the sacred text, 741 00:33:25,182 --> 00:33:26,922 there's no talking about cornbread, 742 00:33:26,922 --> 00:33:29,925 mac and cheese, and ribs. 743 00:33:29,925 --> 00:33:31,492 These are funeral potatoes. 744 00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:33,103 Even though you're an East Coast Mormon, 745 00:33:33,103 --> 00:33:33,799 you've had funeral potatoes. - Yeah, sharing them with you. 746 00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:36,280 Yeah. 747 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,977 - You've never had--okay. - Never in my life. 748 00:33:37,977 --> 00:33:39,457 I love them. That's my favorite. 749 00:33:39,457 --> 00:33:41,415 I can't even Mormon with you, Lisa. 750 00:33:41,415 --> 00:33:42,895 Can we Mormon over, like, Jell-O? 751 00:33:42,895 --> 00:33:45,680 These are a staple at missionary farewells. 752 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,943 Like, Whitney, have you ever been to a missionary farewell 753 00:33:47,943 --> 00:33:49,467 without funeral potatoes? 754 00:33:49,467 --> 00:33:51,425 I make funeral potatoes all the time. 755 00:33:51,425 --> 00:33:53,079 I make the best. You do? 756 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,256 I love Mormon food. I thought Greek food was good. 757 00:33:56,256 --> 00:33:57,605 This is actually really good, though. 758 00:33:57,605 --> 00:33:59,085 - It's really flavorful. - Right? 759 00:33:59,085 --> 00:34:00,130 Yes. 760 00:34:00,130 --> 00:34:02,088 I think this is the modern take. 761 00:34:02,088 --> 00:34:04,134 They probably just killed the deer and ate it. 762 00:34:06,788 --> 00:34:10,314 Okay, there's another game that we're gonna play. 763 00:34:10,314 --> 00:34:12,316 - Oh, my gosh. - It's a pioneer favorite. 764 00:34:12,316 --> 00:34:14,100 It's called who's on your wagon? 765 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,276 Ooh. 766 00:34:16,276 --> 00:34:18,365 Imagine you're on a wagon train. 767 00:34:19,323 --> 00:34:21,368 You're crossing the plains. 768 00:34:21,368 --> 00:34:24,415 The oxen are worn. You're at Winters Quarters. 769 00:34:24,415 --> 00:34:26,852 The snow and early winter storm has come in, 770 00:34:26,852 --> 00:34:30,377 and our wagon has too much weight, 771 00:34:30,377 --> 00:34:33,206 so one person has to go. 772 00:34:33,206 --> 00:34:35,208 Who do you throw off your wagon? 773 00:34:37,645 --> 00:34:39,691 Wow. 774 00:34:39,691 --> 00:34:41,562 Okay, Lisa, who are you kicking off your wagon train? 775 00:34:41,562 --> 00:34:45,131 Um... well, I'm a big supporter of women, 776 00:34:45,131 --> 00:34:47,307 so I would keep everyone 777 00:34:47,307 --> 00:34:49,527 but the one that's the nastiest to women, 778 00:34:49,527 --> 00:34:51,442 so, Monica, you would have to go 779 00:34:51,442 --> 00:34:53,357 just 'cause you're mouthy and mean to women. 780 00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:55,228 Oh, my God, you're so nasty. 781 00:34:55,228 --> 00:34:56,751 - No, I'm not. - You really are nasty. 782 00:34:56,751 --> 00:34:58,579 I'm honest. There's a difference. 783 00:34:58,579 --> 00:35:00,364 That's not...[mockingly] honest. There's not a difference. 784 00:35:00,364 --> 00:35:01,974 You're just nasty. 785 00:35:01,974 --> 00:35:03,236 You like my voice so much. 786 00:35:03,236 --> 00:35:04,759 You like to use it all the time. I love that. 787 00:35:04,759 --> 00:35:05,717 I hate your voice so much. 788 00:35:05,717 --> 00:35:07,197 Actually, it's really annoying. 789 00:35:07,197 --> 00:35:08,546 I don't think that's your real voice, 790 00:35:08,546 --> 00:35:09,851 to be honest, but... 791 00:35:09,851 --> 00:35:11,766 You wouldn't know 'cause we're not friends. 792 00:35:11,766 --> 00:35:13,725 - No, we're not. - We're not. 793 00:35:13,725 --> 00:35:15,553 I mean, one of the main goals of this brunch 794 00:35:15,553 --> 00:35:17,250 is for Monica and Lisa to make amends 795 00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:20,819 so that we can go on this trip without all of this tension, 796 00:35:20,819 --> 00:35:23,561 and Lisa opens up with "nasty to women"? 797 00:35:23,561 --> 00:35:24,997 Couldn't you have said something a little softer like, 798 00:35:24,997 --> 00:35:27,260 "We're scared you'll sleep with our brother-in-laws" 799 00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:30,698 or... [laughs] something that we could have come back from? 800 00:35:30,698 --> 00:35:31,873 You know what's nasty is comments 801 00:35:31,873 --> 00:35:33,875 about someone's parent not wanting them. 802 00:35:33,875 --> 00:35:35,790 - You're not my mother. - Okay, Monica. 803 00:35:35,790 --> 00:35:37,183 So, I don't need to listen to you. 804 00:35:37,183 --> 00:35:40,491 Loving the moments. 805 00:35:41,796 --> 00:35:43,407 So, the real nasty bitch here is you. 806 00:35:43,407 --> 00:35:46,061 You called your mom Ted Bundy. 807 00:35:46,061 --> 00:35:48,760 My mom was very, very charming 808 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,458 and very charismatic and very nice, 809 00:35:51,458 --> 00:35:53,895 and so was Ted Bundy. 810 00:35:53,895 --> 00:35:56,507 The real nasty bitch here is you. 811 00:35:56,507 --> 00:35:57,638 No, you called your mom Ted Bundy. 812 00:35:57,638 --> 00:35:59,249 That's it. Period. End of story. 813 00:35:59,249 --> 00:36:01,033 And anyone that could talk about their mother like that... 814 00:36:01,033 --> 00:36:02,687 - Period. End of story. - ...will never be your friend. 815 00:36:02,687 --> 00:36:03,905 Oh, my God, Lisa. Give me a break. 816 00:36:03,905 --> 00:36:05,603 Used to kill people, have sex with them, 817 00:36:05,603 --> 00:36:07,126 decapitate 'em, and eat 'em. - I would say--Oh. 818 00:36:07,126 --> 00:36:08,475 That's nasty. 819 00:36:08,475 --> 00:36:11,739 I'm not up to date on all my serial killer facts, 820 00:36:11,739 --> 00:36:15,134 but I'm pretty sure it was Jeffrey Dahmer that ate people, 821 00:36:15,134 --> 00:36:18,485 not Ted Bundy. 822 00:36:18,485 --> 00:36:20,661 It makes sense that you liked the fakest one, 823 00:36:20,661 --> 00:36:21,619 'cause fake likes fake. 824 00:36:21,619 --> 00:36:23,969 Like, just be quiet. 825 00:36:23,969 --> 00:36:27,015 No, because we weren't done. We weren't done. 826 00:36:27,015 --> 00:36:29,801 - No, I was done. I was done. - We were not done with that. 827 00:36:29,801 --> 00:36:31,716 Hey, remember the Greek wedding? Remember the Greek wedding? 828 00:36:31,716 --> 00:36:33,500 No, you don't get to tell me when--when we're done. 829 00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:34,675 And you don't get to tell me. You don't get to tell me. 830 00:36:34,675 --> 00:36:36,982 Wait, this is not--Okay. Okay, okay, okay. 831 00:36:36,982 --> 00:36:39,245 - You are so nasty on the inside. - Monica, the day you treated 832 00:36:39,245 --> 00:36:41,116 your mother-- - You are so ugly. 833 00:36:41,116 --> 00:36:45,947 I hate liars. There's nothing uglier than a liar. 834 00:36:45,947 --> 00:36:47,558 - You don't know sh--. - Monica, Monica, Monica. 835 00:36:47,558 --> 00:36:49,995 - No! Come for her! - Monica, bring it down a level! 836 00:36:49,995 --> 00:36:51,301 She's the one that sits down and starts with me. 837 00:36:51,301 --> 00:36:52,650 Monica. I wanna say something. 838 00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:54,913 - You're being crazy. - Monica. Opa! 839 00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:56,567 I have never done anything to her! 840 00:36:56,567 --> 00:36:58,090 Be quiet for a minute! 841 00:36:58,090 --> 00:37:02,355 The hypocrisy is, like, next level. 842 00:37:04,183 --> 00:37:07,882 The fact that I'm being made to feel like 843 00:37:07,882 --> 00:37:10,755 I'm in the wrong when I'm just defending myself 844 00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:12,757 is very triggering for me. 845 00:37:12,757 --> 00:37:15,847 I think this is very similar to situations 846 00:37:15,847 --> 00:37:18,110 with my mom where it's like you can say 847 00:37:18,110 --> 00:37:20,678 disgusting, awful, hurtful, mean things, 848 00:37:20,678 --> 00:37:22,593 but you're never in the wrong. 849 00:37:22,593 --> 00:37:25,900 Come on, Monica. Come on, get up. Bring your butter. 850 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:27,902 Your butter? 851 00:37:29,077 --> 00:37:31,079 What, are you crying? What's going on? 852 00:37:31,079 --> 00:37:32,994 I'm just being quiet. 853 00:37:50,098 --> 00:37:51,883 Are you crying? What ha-- 854 00:37:51,883 --> 00:37:53,798 Why are you, like, a different person right now? 855 00:37:53,798 --> 00:37:56,583 - What's going on? - I'm just being quiet. 856 00:37:58,498 --> 00:38:00,239 You're not going? 857 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,155 Why? What did she say that hurt you to this point? 858 00:38:03,155 --> 00:38:04,461 What?! 859 00:38:04,461 --> 00:38:07,333 I'm--I'm being sincere. I don't understand. 860 00:38:07,333 --> 00:38:09,944 - Were you not at that table? - Yeah, but it was tit for tat. 861 00:38:09,944 --> 00:38:12,164 It was both of you guys, equal. 862 00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,253 - No, it was all of you... - Lisa's fine. She's smiling. 863 00:38:14,253 --> 00:38:15,776 ...against me. 864 00:38:15,776 --> 00:38:17,604 You know what? 865 00:38:19,084 --> 00:38:21,521 She----ing sat down and came right for me. 866 00:38:21,521 --> 00:38:24,002 - No, she didn't. It was a game. - That was not a game. 867 00:38:24,002 --> 00:38:25,743 - It was a game. It was a game. - No, it was not a game. 868 00:38:25,743 --> 00:38:29,050 Hey, hey, listen, if you need for me to acknowledge 869 00:38:29,050 --> 00:38:31,183 that your mom's not nice to you, I'm sorry. 870 00:38:31,183 --> 00:38:33,620 And by me saying I saw her being nice 871 00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:37,189 does not mean I...negate any of your feelings. 872 00:38:37,189 --> 00:38:39,887 The bottom line is, Heather put a lot of effort 873 00:38:39,887 --> 00:38:42,499 into this lunch and this trip she planned for all of us, 874 00:38:42,499 --> 00:38:45,023 and if it means, like, talking to Monica 875 00:38:45,023 --> 00:38:47,373 and, like, working this out, I'm willing to do it. 876 00:38:47,373 --> 00:38:49,201 Is that where I missed? 877 00:38:49,201 --> 00:38:52,291 I...don't... know. 878 00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:56,600 I'm just going to apologize for saying you were ugly. 879 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,864 - I didn't mean that. - Thanks. 880 00:38:59,864 --> 00:39:03,694 It shouldn't be this way. We didn't start off this way. 881 00:39:06,044 --> 00:39:07,175 Do you know what I mean? Like, let's just... 882 00:39:07,175 --> 00:39:09,395 take a deep breath, move forward. 883 00:39:09,395 --> 00:39:11,397 - Mm-hmm. - Come on. 884 00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:22,713 Okay. Are we peaceful? 885 00:39:22,713 --> 00:39:25,672 Don't have to be besties, but peaceful? 886 00:39:25,672 --> 00:39:27,935 Monica apologized. We're gonna move forward. 887 00:39:27,935 --> 00:39:33,027 Okay, ladies, these are not just place settings, you guys. 888 00:39:34,377 --> 00:39:35,595 These are actually invitations 889 00:39:35,595 --> 00:39:38,555 from Monica and me... 890 00:39:38,555 --> 00:39:41,384 ...to go on a spectacular girls trip 891 00:39:41,384 --> 00:39:44,691 to a foreign passport-required location... 892 00:39:44,691 --> 00:39:46,171 - Whoo! - Whoo! 893 00:39:46,171 --> 00:39:47,302 ...that we wanna share with you! 894 00:39:47,302 --> 00:39:49,609 - Oh, my God! Whoo! - But I need Monica 895 00:39:49,609 --> 00:39:51,742 to find her energy... - Whoo! 896 00:39:51,742 --> 00:39:53,744 ...and help me announce it. 897 00:39:57,704 --> 00:40:02,405 Come on, Monica. 898 00:40:02,405 --> 00:40:04,929 Okay, so these are the clues. 899 00:40:04,929 --> 00:40:08,323 The first clue is where we're going is easy. 900 00:40:08,323 --> 00:40:10,761 So, why would a seashell be important? 901 00:40:10,761 --> 00:40:11,892 'Cause we're going to the ocean. 902 00:40:11,892 --> 00:40:13,111 We're going somewhere near the ocean! 903 00:40:14,721 --> 00:40:15,766 In fact, where we're going is an island. 904 00:40:15,766 --> 00:40:17,507 - There's an island?! - Aah! 905 00:40:18,812 --> 00:40:21,075 It's somewhere with what? Monica, tell them. 906 00:40:21,075 --> 00:40:22,555 You're the only person here that's seen it. 907 00:40:22,555 --> 00:40:23,861 Pink sand in an ocean. 908 00:40:23,861 --> 00:40:25,602 Pink sand. Get your pink sand out. 909 00:40:25,602 --> 00:40:27,734 - Pink sand? - Pink sand beaches. 910 00:40:27,734 --> 00:40:29,606 Does anyone know where pink sand beaches exist? 911 00:40:29,606 --> 00:40:31,477 Bermuda! 912 00:40:31,477 --> 00:40:33,479 Oh, my gosh. 913 00:40:34,741 --> 00:40:37,004 You're the smartest one here! 914 00:40:37,004 --> 00:40:38,789 We're going to Bermuda. 915 00:40:38,789 --> 00:40:41,748 Monica used to go there for the summers with her grandmother. 916 00:40:41,748 --> 00:40:43,271 It's part of the New York mission. 917 00:40:43,271 --> 00:40:45,535 It has a huge Portuguese community, 918 00:40:45,535 --> 00:40:48,233 and, Monica, tell them why there's a tiny, little skull. 919 00:40:48,233 --> 00:40:52,019 Because we're all going home to hell, 920 00:40:52,019 --> 00:40:55,153 to Devil's Triangle, where we all belong. 921 00:40:55,153 --> 00:40:56,502 Okay. 922 00:41:02,377 --> 00:41:04,858 Are you okay? 923 00:41:04,858 --> 00:41:07,600 I feel done. I'm done. I'm spent. 924 00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:15,347 Okay, so, we're not going on the trip? 925 00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:18,132 I really don't think it's a good idea for me to go. 926 00:41:18,132 --> 00:41:19,830 That's how I feel right now. 927 00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:22,659 Well, we planned it around you and Bermuda and your grandma... 928 00:41:22,659 --> 00:41:24,182 I don't know what to-- I don't know-- 929 00:41:24,182 --> 00:41:25,575 ...and the summers you spent there. 930 00:41:25,575 --> 00:41:26,880 Yeah, that was a very different-- 931 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,708 This is totally different energy. 932 00:41:28,708 --> 00:41:31,189 Like, you were attacking her full force, 933 00:41:31,189 --> 00:41:33,844 and now you're crying and acting like we all came at you? 934 00:41:37,064 --> 00:41:40,677 I always really wondered why Jen 935 00:41:40,677 --> 00:41:45,159 never had anything nice to say about Heather and Lisa, 936 00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,250 and now I know exactly why. 937 00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:52,427 Well, Bermuda is gonna be great fun. 938 00:41:55,387 --> 00:41:59,826 - Where is that Monica? - Y'all killed her real quick. 939 00:42:01,872 --> 00:42:05,440 She's dead, like Taylor Swift said. 940 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,920 What? 941 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,921 She's dead. 942 00:42:13,492 --> 00:42:16,713 Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 943 00:42:16,713 --> 00:42:18,497 What is your perfect man? 944 00:42:18,497 --> 00:42:20,368 He's faceless. He has a ski mask on. 945 00:42:20,368 --> 00:42:22,980 Is there a therapist in the house?! 946 00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:26,592 I don't want Pioneer Day part two to happen in Bermuda. 947 00:42:26,592 --> 00:42:28,594 I'm starting to realize that you can never 948 00:42:28,594 --> 00:42:31,075 really count on what you're gonna get with Monica. 949 00:42:31,075 --> 00:42:32,076 The trip is hanging in the balance. 950 00:42:32,076 --> 00:42:35,601 I just got a really bad message. 951 00:42:35,601 --> 00:42:38,082 What? 952 00:42:38,082 --> 00:42:42,347 I feel like Lisa-- she gets nasty, that one. 953 00:42:42,347 --> 00:42:43,957 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 954 00:42:43,957 --> 00:42:47,265 The whole thing with Angie felt icky, 955 00:42:47,265 --> 00:42:48,919 and I don't wanna be around this anymore. 956 00:42:48,919 --> 00:42:51,704 I am not the one bringing the tornado. 957 00:42:51,704 --> 00:42:53,924 Karma comes back. 958 00:42:53,924 --> 00:42:56,143 - Everything is about you. - No, it's not. 959 00:42:56,143 --> 00:42:57,971 - I am always there for you! - No, I'm so sorry. 960 00:42:57,971 --> 00:42:59,625 - Always there for you. - No, no, no. listen. 961 00:42:59,625 --> 00:43:02,323 - Always there for you. - this. [bleep] this.