1 00:00:02,252 --> 00:00:03,628 Previously on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 2 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:09,092 Jack is gonna serve a mission for our church. 3 00:00:09,134 --> 00:00:10,176 No way. 4 00:00:10,218 --> 00:00:11,636 -Have you told Heather? -No. 5 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:14,180 -No? -You're a door to door salesman. 6 00:00:14,222 --> 00:00:16,683 You are knocking on doors, selling 7 00:00:16,725 --> 00:00:18,268 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 8 00:00:18,309 --> 00:00:19,686 That's all it is. 9 00:00:19,728 --> 00:00:22,564 Mom, I need your help with the kids. 10 00:00:22,605 --> 00:00:25,066 *** 11 00:00:25,108 --> 00:00:27,360 I'm good for two hours. 12 00:00:27,402 --> 00:00:30,113 There are all these rumors out there about Angie 13 00:00:30,155 --> 00:00:31,906 that I have heard. 14 00:00:31,948 --> 00:00:33,908 Do you know what the rumor is? Angie needs to know. 15 00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:39,122 The rumor is that Shawn likes to [bleep] other men. 16 00:00:39,164 --> 00:00:41,583 *** 17 00:00:41,624 --> 00:00:45,879 Are you ----ing kidding me? You know, she's a sick bitch. 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,381 *** 19 00:00:48,423 --> 00:00:51,343 Hey, Meredith, do you have a second? 20 00:00:54,179 --> 00:01:03,646 *** 21 00:01:03,688 --> 00:01:05,482 Hey, Meredith, do you have a second? 22 00:01:05,523 --> 00:01:06,816 Sure. 23 00:01:06,858 --> 00:01:08,943 Okay, let's come on over here where it's quiet. 24 00:01:08,985 --> 00:01:13,907 *** 25 00:01:13,948 --> 00:01:17,243 Well, you know, I'll just kind of get right to the point. 26 00:01:17,285 --> 00:01:19,412 It sounds like you are out spreading rumors 27 00:01:19,454 --> 00:01:21,581 about my marriage and my husband. 28 00:01:21,623 --> 00:01:25,126 I obviously don't need to go into detail 29 00:01:25,168 --> 00:01:27,087 because you know what it is. 30 00:01:27,128 --> 00:01:28,755 I don't know what you're talking about. 31 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:30,256 There are rumors about you. I am not spreading them. 32 00:01:30,298 --> 00:01:32,509 But you are out spreading them. 33 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:34,386 You have said it to multiple women in the group. 34 00:01:34,427 --> 00:01:36,221 And I have been told by the girls 35 00:01:36,262 --> 00:01:39,349 that you are saying things about my husband and other men. 36 00:01:39,391 --> 00:01:40,850 And, Meredith, you know what-- 37 00:01:40,892 --> 00:01:44,521 I'm not talking about your husband. 38 00:01:44,562 --> 00:01:45,855 First of all, I've not talked to Whitney. 39 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:47,482 so I don't know what you were saying with her. 40 00:01:47,524 --> 00:01:48,566 Who were you talking about? Who were you talking with? 41 00:01:48,608 --> 00:01:50,276 You did. You--You said that-- 42 00:01:50,318 --> 00:01:51,903 What are you talking about? Oh, here we go. 43 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:53,988 You said that in the airport, you said that you heard rumors 44 00:01:54,030 --> 00:01:56,366 about her husband. -What are you talking about? 45 00:01:56,408 --> 00:01:57,909 Oh, maybe I said I've heard rumors about her husband, 46 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,411 but that's all I said. 47 00:01:59,452 --> 00:02:01,413 You've gone after every marriage in the group 48 00:02:01,454 --> 00:02:03,081 when meanwhile, you're the only one that's out 49 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:05,458 spreading their legs outside of their marriage. 50 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:07,168 I've been with my husband for almost 30 years. 51 00:02:07,210 --> 00:02:09,963 -We're done. -Okay, run away, Meredith. 52 00:02:10,005 --> 00:02:11,548 -I don't talk to people... -Don't point your finger at me. 53 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:13,216 ...who don't speak to me with respect. 54 00:02:13,258 --> 00:02:14,801 Go shove whipped cream in her mouth. 55 00:02:14,843 --> 00:02:16,136 -You're real respectful. -Was that respectful, Meredith? 56 00:02:16,177 --> 00:02:17,762 Was that respectful? 57 00:02:17,804 --> 00:02:19,389 I have never spoken to you with disrespect. 58 00:02:19,431 --> 00:02:21,141 Learn how to speak to me with respect. 59 00:02:21,182 --> 00:02:22,726 *** 60 00:02:22,767 --> 00:02:24,978 You know what? There's no result. She runs away. 61 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:27,272 *** 62 00:02:27,313 --> 00:02:29,524 You guys, I'm glad we all got together. 63 00:02:31,026 --> 00:02:32,193 I'm so glad. 64 00:02:32,235 --> 00:02:36,698 *** 65 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:38,700 Girl... 66 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,165 Hey, don't turn your back on me. 67 00:02:45,206 --> 00:02:47,709 I'm not done talking to you. If you're gonna spread rumors 68 00:02:47,751 --> 00:02:50,170 about my marriage, then you're gonna look me in the eye, 69 00:02:50,211 --> 00:02:52,630 and you're going to address it. 70 00:02:52,672 --> 00:02:54,382 What's going on? 71 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:57,969 Did you like it when she spread rumors 72 00:02:58,011 --> 00:03:01,931 about you ----ing giving blowjobs for jazz tickets? 73 00:03:01,973 --> 00:03:04,976 It's rumored that one of your business partners 74 00:03:05,018 --> 00:03:08,188 that has the Jazz tickets... -I don't know-- 75 00:03:08,229 --> 00:03:09,814 ...that you've been involved with. 76 00:03:09,856 --> 00:03:11,733 Who repeated that rumor? You or me? 77 00:03:11,775 --> 00:03:12,984 I didn't know it. 78 00:03:13,026 --> 00:03:16,321 You told me that she performed sexual favors! 79 00:03:16,363 --> 00:03:18,823 Make eye contact. 80 00:03:18,865 --> 00:03:21,034 Stop deflecting from your ----ing ----ed up marriage. 81 00:03:21,076 --> 00:03:22,202 -I don't speak with people-- -Meredith, talk to me. 82 00:03:22,243 --> 00:03:24,746 -Don't touch me. -No, I wanna-- 83 00:03:24,788 --> 00:03:25,872 -You touch me-- -Don't talk about my marriage. 84 00:03:25,914 --> 00:03:28,124 -Don't touch me. -Run away, Meredith! 85 00:03:28,166 --> 00:03:30,418 I don't speak to people who treat me with disrespect. 86 00:03:30,460 --> 00:03:31,920 The only one who spreads their legs 87 00:03:31,961 --> 00:03:34,047 outside their marriage is you. -Not me, honey. Not me. 88 00:03:34,089 --> 00:03:35,382 -Yeah. -Talk to yours. 89 00:03:35,423 --> 00:03:36,716 -Yeah. -Deal with your marriage. 90 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:38,259 -No, deal with yours. -Leave mine alone. 91 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:39,844 Deal with your-- 92 00:03:39,886 --> 00:03:41,721 Learn how to speak with respect to other please. 93 00:03:41,763 --> 00:03:43,348 Respect? You're spreading lies. 94 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:44,516 I didn't spread anything, Angie. 95 00:03:44,557 --> 00:03:45,934 You are spreading lies. 96 00:03:45,975 --> 00:03:47,394 I didn't spread anything, Angie. 97 00:03:47,435 --> 00:03:48,520 You said it to multiple women in the group, Meredith. 98 00:03:48,561 --> 00:03:50,438 She spreads lies about people's marriage, 99 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,149 and then she walks away. My husband is having-- 100 00:03:53,191 --> 00:03:55,902 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 101 00:03:55,944 --> 00:03:58,405 What is it? Monica, what just happened? 102 00:03:58,446 --> 00:04:00,281 She's gone at everybody's marriage. 103 00:04:00,323 --> 00:04:03,410 When Meredith told me there were rumors about Shawn and Angie... 104 00:04:03,451 --> 00:04:07,414 If I want to go for the jugular and talk about this sh--... 105 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:14,879 I can go there. 106 00:04:14,921 --> 00:04:16,464 *** 107 00:04:16,506 --> 00:04:19,843 I was really hoping it was just a drunken comment, 108 00:04:19,884 --> 00:04:22,846 not something you're intending on acting on spreading. 109 00:04:22,887 --> 00:04:26,975 I just cannot believe she's doing the same thing again. 110 00:04:27,017 --> 00:04:28,560 Monica, what just happened? 111 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:31,104 -She's full of sh-- and a liar. -Wait, wait, hold on. 112 00:04:31,146 --> 00:04:33,148 What just happened? I want to hear it from you. 113 00:04:33,189 --> 00:04:35,400 MARY: No, no, no. 114 00:04:35,442 --> 00:04:37,318 You guys, go. I'm done with them. 115 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,280 LISA: What just happened? 116 00:04:40,321 --> 00:04:42,073 Whitney was like, "Let's tell Angie," 117 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:43,700 and I'm like, let's tell her. -What was it, though? 118 00:04:43,742 --> 00:04:45,994 -That-- -What was there to tell? 119 00:04:46,036 --> 00:04:48,788 That Shawn ----s men. 120 00:04:48,830 --> 00:04:50,957 No, he does not. 121 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:53,126 That he has, like, boyfriends running around the city 122 00:04:53,168 --> 00:04:54,961 bragging about their sex. 123 00:04:55,003 --> 00:05:00,175 I can't believe I wasted another outfit on this event. 124 00:05:00,216 --> 00:05:04,137 Like, where's the food? Like, what are we eating? 125 00:05:04,179 --> 00:05:07,849 Monica, I have never heard that in my life. 126 00:05:07,891 --> 00:05:11,186 Everyone wants to pretend like they haven't heard it. 127 00:05:11,227 --> 00:05:13,563 On my kids--on my kids, 128 00:05:13,605 --> 00:05:17,609 I have never heard that in my life. 129 00:05:17,650 --> 00:05:19,903 But all of these women have heard about this, 130 00:05:19,944 --> 00:05:23,490 have talked about this, or have spread this. 131 00:05:23,531 --> 00:05:26,326 Some fake sh--. That's some Utah sh--. 132 00:05:26,368 --> 00:05:27,702 -Have you heard the rumor? -Yeah. 133 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:29,329 -I haven't. -You haven't heard that? 134 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:30,663 -No. -In Salt Lake, 135 00:05:30,705 --> 00:05:31,915 people always say it about male hairdressers. 136 00:05:31,956 --> 00:05:34,876 This is Utah. I've been to family reunions. 137 00:05:34,918 --> 00:05:37,003 If a guy wears a cardigan, they think he's gay. 138 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:40,006 And as soon as she married a guy that had tapered pants 139 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:42,467 and custom-made suits... 140 00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:45,637 the rumors started flying. 141 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:47,681 Wait, Lisa, is there no food? 142 00:05:47,722 --> 00:05:49,599 No, there's lots of food. 143 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:51,601 There's, um, let me see. 144 00:05:51,643 --> 00:05:54,979 Emily? Is Emily around? 145 00:05:55,021 --> 00:05:56,356 Yes. No problem. 146 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:57,857 -Can I have it to go? -Okay. 147 00:05:57,899 --> 00:05:59,317 Perfect. 148 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:01,277 Can you have them make her some fresh flatbread? 149 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:02,654 Yeah. 150 00:06:02,696 --> 00:06:05,990 A fresh pizza is what we need right now. 151 00:06:10,161 --> 00:06:11,955 -Sorry. -Yeah, sorry you had anything 152 00:06:11,996 --> 00:06:13,665 to do with it. -I have a good life. 153 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:16,876 -I have a greatmarriage. -She should worry about hers. 154 00:06:16,918 --> 00:06:18,169 Yeah. 155 00:06:18,211 --> 00:06:20,547 Love you. Love you. I'm sorry. 156 00:06:23,341 --> 00:06:24,884 Okay, thank you. 157 00:06:24,926 --> 00:06:28,346 You couldn't have put it in the box yourself? 158 00:06:28,388 --> 00:06:29,889 For customer service? 159 00:06:31,266 --> 00:06:32,434 Uh-huh. 160 00:06:32,475 --> 00:06:34,019 No, you're lazy. 161 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:37,188 I feel so sorry for you that you're so miserable. 162 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:38,606 I'm sorry for you, honey. 163 00:06:40,942 --> 00:06:42,819 Good Lord, girl. 164 00:06:42,861 --> 00:06:44,237 Bye. I'll talk to you soon. 165 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,823 HEATHER: Bye, ladies. 166 00:06:46,865 --> 00:06:49,034 LISA: Crazy way to end things. 167 00:06:49,075 --> 00:06:51,703 There's something wrong with her, Lisa. 168 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:54,205 She has a-a weird thing with me. 169 00:06:54,247 --> 00:06:56,416 I don't know what it is, and it's not my problem, 170 00:06:56,458 --> 00:06:58,043 and I'm not interested. 171 00:06:58,084 --> 00:06:59,919 It's crazy. 172 00:06:59,961 --> 00:07:01,463 All I know right now is I need to take a moment 173 00:07:01,504 --> 00:07:04,591 and think about how we move forward together as friends. 174 00:07:04,632 --> 00:07:06,051 You know, like, I can't believe 175 00:07:06,092 --> 00:07:08,053 that Meredith is playing victim right now. 176 00:07:08,094 --> 00:07:13,308 Like, the real victim in this situation is Angie 177 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:15,435 ...and me. It's my party. 178 00:07:15,477 --> 00:07:18,605 Thank you. Be safe going home. Thanks for bringing Kathy. 179 00:07:18,646 --> 00:07:28,406 *** 180 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:39,709 *** 181 00:07:39,751 --> 00:07:42,712 I was raised that family is number one. 182 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:47,258 It's the ultimate, and my family is my whole world. 183 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:50,970 And I'm lost without Shawn and Elektra. 184 00:07:51,012 --> 00:07:54,140 And for somebody to attack that or question that 185 00:07:54,182 --> 00:07:58,978 could really devastate my family. 186 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,773 -Oh, my God. Coffee. -Here you go. 187 00:08:01,815 --> 00:08:03,650 I didn't sleep well last night. 188 00:08:06,277 --> 00:08:08,863 Are you okay? 189 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:12,826 So many crazy things went on last night that 190 00:08:12,867 --> 00:08:15,286 it's like I-I haven't even been able 191 00:08:15,328 --> 00:08:17,831 to wrap my head around it all. 192 00:08:17,872 --> 00:08:21,167 There was some weird things that came up, 193 00:08:21,209 --> 00:08:22,961 and I didn't wanna say anything before bed 194 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,213 because I was wiped out when I came home. 195 00:08:25,255 --> 00:08:28,008 *** 196 00:08:28,049 --> 00:08:33,638 But I was a little shocked at some things that, um, 197 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:36,516 Meredith was saying. 198 00:08:36,558 --> 00:08:39,436 She started eluding to the fact that 199 00:08:39,477 --> 00:08:43,481 she could destroy our family and that you actually, um... 200 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,025 like men. 201 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:51,322 Or, you know, you are hooking up with men on the side. 202 00:08:55,243 --> 00:08:57,245 What a ----ing idiot. 203 00:08:57,287 --> 00:09:00,373 That's been a thing for you 204 00:09:00,415 --> 00:09:04,502 that you've had to listen to for 30 years, you know? 205 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:05,587 -Yeah. -You're a hairdresser, 206 00:09:05,628 --> 00:09:06,921 so you're automatically gay. 207 00:09:06,963 --> 00:09:09,716 The bottom line is, is gay, straight, whatever, 208 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:12,052 it's the adultery part of it that's bad. 209 00:09:12,093 --> 00:09:14,554 I mean, I know I don't have to explain this sh-- to you. 210 00:09:14,596 --> 00:09:16,389 -No, I, uh, listen-- -You know, it-- 211 00:09:16,431 --> 00:09:20,101 it's--it's crazy. It's nuts. It's a smear campaign. 212 00:09:20,143 --> 00:09:23,938 And to what end is this woman willing to go to? 213 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:27,150 -What did we do? -Don't let this bother you. 214 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:31,780 Okay? Because I stood up for my family, 215 00:09:31,821 --> 00:09:33,907 and I stood up for... -Well--okay-- 216 00:09:33,948 --> 00:09:37,660 ...and for our marriage and for our family unit. 217 00:09:37,702 --> 00:09:39,496 [sighs] 218 00:09:39,537 --> 00:09:41,331 [voice breaking] I don't... 219 00:09:41,373 --> 00:09:42,540 [sniffles] 220 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,626 *** 221 00:09:44,668 --> 00:09:48,588 Shawn, she's a miserable bitch. Don't let her get to you. 222 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:52,050 [exhales deeply] 223 00:09:54,219 --> 00:09:56,888 You know, Elektra's gonna hear about this, 224 00:09:56,930 --> 00:10:04,145 and it kills me to think... 225 00:10:04,187 --> 00:10:06,856 that she would ever think that I would do something like this. 226 00:10:06,898 --> 00:10:09,109 She's not gonna think that. 227 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:11,945 And, you know, she knows who her mom and dad are. 228 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:16,449 I've been working my ass off... 229 00:10:16,491 --> 00:10:17,867 to be her hero. 230 00:10:17,909 --> 00:10:20,912 But you are, and the way that you handle this 231 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:22,163 is gonna show her. 232 00:10:22,205 --> 00:10:25,166 She's gonna admire you even more. 233 00:10:25,208 --> 00:10:27,043 *** 234 00:10:27,085 --> 00:10:30,797 You know, it's very dangerous to make accusations of infidelity 235 00:10:30,839 --> 00:10:33,341 in the Greek community 236 00:10:33,383 --> 00:10:35,802 because we are practicing Orthodox. 237 00:10:35,844 --> 00:10:37,303 We got married in the Greek Orthodox Church 238 00:10:37,345 --> 00:10:39,014 24 years ago, 239 00:10:39,055 --> 00:10:43,143 and infidelity is against our religion. 240 00:10:43,184 --> 00:10:45,729 Shawn and I might have our problems, 241 00:10:45,770 --> 00:10:49,315 but being under attack, we are a united front no matter what. 242 00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:52,444 You know, if somebody comes for my family, my character, 243 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:54,029 they're not welcome here anymore. 244 00:10:55,196 --> 00:10:56,823 She's not welcome in this home. 245 00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:13,381 *** 246 00:11:17,844 --> 00:11:19,179 MONICA: Rise and shine. 247 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:20,930 How are you? 248 00:11:20,972 --> 00:11:22,515 Good. 249 00:11:22,557 --> 00:11:23,600 Jadey-bug. 250 00:11:23,641 --> 00:11:28,730 *** 251 00:11:28,772 --> 00:11:31,524 Jadey-bug. Okay, start waking up, okay? 252 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:33,151 I'm gonna start making breakfast, 253 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:34,319 but don't go back to sleep. 254 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:37,530 [pants and whines] 255 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:40,450 Okay, we're all getting up. Okay? 256 00:11:40,492 --> 00:11:43,787 -Are you tired, too? -[whimpers] 257 00:11:43,828 --> 00:11:45,580 You look like you're still asleep. 258 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:46,456 [yawns] 259 00:11:46,498 --> 00:11:49,459 * Rise and shine * 260 00:11:49,501 --> 00:11:52,837 As a single mom, my life consists of running 261 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:56,091 my kids everywhere, all day, every day. 262 00:11:56,132 --> 00:11:58,134 I mean, four different schedules, 263 00:11:58,176 --> 00:12:00,428 literally four different schools. 264 00:12:00,470 --> 00:12:02,681 This one likes football. This one likes gymnastics. 265 00:12:02,722 --> 00:12:05,433 This one likes art. You know what I would like? 266 00:12:05,475 --> 00:12:07,143 [smoke alarm beeping] 267 00:12:07,185 --> 00:12:08,311 Oh, my God. 268 00:12:08,353 --> 00:12:10,689 Five hours of extra sleep. 269 00:12:13,525 --> 00:12:16,986 -[laughs] -[beeping continues] 270 00:12:17,028 --> 00:12:20,615 West, what are you doing? 271 00:12:20,657 --> 00:12:23,910 -Oh, good, you found your shoes. -They were right next to my-- 272 00:12:23,952 --> 00:12:25,578 What's wrong with this one? What the heck happened? 273 00:12:25,620 --> 00:12:27,205 -I know. -Did Chap chew that? 274 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:29,916 -Probably. -Chap. 275 00:12:29,958 --> 00:12:33,670 My childhood was very different from my kids'. 276 00:12:33,712 --> 00:12:36,840 Growing up, we moved around so much 277 00:12:36,881 --> 00:12:39,426 because my mom was always looking 278 00:12:39,467 --> 00:12:41,845 for something bigger and better. 279 00:12:41,886 --> 00:12:45,098 A lot of times, that was at my expense. 280 00:12:45,140 --> 00:12:47,350 [gasps] Cocoa bean! 281 00:12:47,392 --> 00:12:50,729 Good morning! 282 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,023 I think there is some resentment there for that. 283 00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:54,399 You guys have your backpacks? 284 00:12:54,441 --> 00:12:56,568 Let's go. Jade, we're gonna leave without you, girl. 285 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:59,112 No! 286 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:02,282 I've always been searching for stability, 287 00:13:02,323 --> 00:13:04,909 because I never had that. 288 00:13:04,951 --> 00:13:08,038 The only thing that I can count on with my mom 289 00:13:08,079 --> 00:13:12,334 is that there's nothing to count on with my mom. 290 00:13:12,375 --> 00:13:15,545 Who the freak's socks are out here? 291 00:13:15,587 --> 00:13:18,715 Whose socks are in the yard? [laughs] 292 00:13:18,757 --> 00:13:21,676 I know I'm not a perfect mom, but I also know that my children 293 00:13:21,718 --> 00:13:23,261 will always be provided for, 294 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:24,971 and they will always have the essentials. 295 00:13:26,723 --> 00:13:27,766 Mm-hmm. 296 00:13:30,643 --> 00:13:33,688 [gasps] Did you have so much fun? 297 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:39,736 Was that before or after you said the "B" word, Westley? 298 00:13:39,778 --> 00:13:42,405 [gasps] 299 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:45,283 An accident? 300 00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:49,537 Boner?! 301 00:13:49,579 --> 00:13:52,707 -Okay. Wow. -Where did you learn thatword? 302 00:13:52,749 --> 00:13:53,958 [giggles] 303 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,798 -"Boner" is a bad word. -What? 304 00:14:03,927 --> 00:14:09,641 *** 305 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:12,268 -Did you just trip upthe curb? -No, I slipped. 306 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:14,354 There's secret ice. 307 00:14:14,396 --> 00:14:15,814 Yeah. Stay away from that secret ice. 308 00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:18,692 -Oh, here. -Thanks, Jack. 309 00:14:18,733 --> 00:14:20,443 Welcome to M. Vincé Nail Spa. How are you doing today? 310 00:14:20,485 --> 00:14:22,028 -How are you? Good, good. -Good, good. 311 00:14:22,070 --> 00:14:23,988 -Did we have appointment today? -We do, for two. 312 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:25,782 Okay. Yeah. Go ahead and just get signed in for me real quick. 313 00:14:25,824 --> 00:14:28,410 -LISA: Okay, thank you. -And we'll get started here. 314 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:29,869 *** 315 00:14:29,911 --> 00:14:31,246 Let me have you-- let's sit here. 316 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:32,539 -Thank you. -And you can go there. 317 00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:34,290 -Awesome. -How are you? 318 00:14:34,332 --> 00:14:37,752 Fine. 319 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,838 Oh, my gosh. I love that the water's hot. 320 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,010 Um, okay, so what's going on for prom? 321 00:14:45,051 --> 00:14:49,431 Uh, just asked a very beautiful young lady last night. 322 00:14:49,472 --> 00:14:50,390 She said yes? 323 00:14:50,432 --> 00:14:51,641 Yeah. 324 00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:54,060 -Are you excited? -Yeah, I'm so pumped. 325 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:55,687 Does she know you're going on a mission? 326 00:14:57,522 --> 00:14:59,524 You know, a lot of people here 327 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:02,277 pay their kids to go on mission or blackmail 'em 328 00:15:02,318 --> 00:15:04,696 or say, like, "Go, or you're gonna embarrass the family." 329 00:15:04,738 --> 00:15:07,449 Like, there's social pressures in Utah, 330 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:10,201 but Jack has been raised non-orthodox, 331 00:15:10,243 --> 00:15:12,746 and so I'm still, like, processing everything. 332 00:15:12,787 --> 00:15:16,207 Like, the fact that I'm not gonna have my son for two years 333 00:15:16,249 --> 00:15:18,626 is, like, a lot for a mom. 334 00:15:18,668 --> 00:15:20,086 Every single second with him, 335 00:15:20,128 --> 00:15:23,173 I just want it to be, like, the best second with him. 336 00:15:23,214 --> 00:15:25,425 And it's a good thing. He's big into men's grooming. 337 00:15:25,467 --> 00:15:27,802 [chuckles] Like...it's a bonus. 338 00:15:27,844 --> 00:15:30,805 Um, in my friend group, everyone was like, shocked. 339 00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:33,892 And with Heather, she asked me some questions, like, 340 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:35,977 "Does he know it's gonna be hard?" 341 00:15:36,019 --> 00:15:37,520 -Yeah. -And I'm like, "Yeah, Heather. 342 00:15:37,562 --> 00:15:38,813 He's like, good." I just couldn't get 343 00:15:38,855 --> 00:15:40,273 where she was going with it. 344 00:15:40,315 --> 00:15:42,359 Whitney told me that Jack's going on a mission. 345 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,902 Yeah. 346 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:46,780 If you could choose for him, would you tell him to go or not? 347 00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,990 Heather, we have to table this for another day. 348 00:15:49,032 --> 00:15:50,367 *** 349 00:15:50,408 --> 00:15:52,035 Like, it's really none of her business. 350 00:15:52,077 --> 00:15:54,662 It's not like he's doing anything bad. 351 00:15:54,704 --> 00:15:56,581 I mean, he chose to serve a mission instead of, 352 00:15:56,623 --> 00:16:00,293 like, meth or, like, teenage pregnancies. 353 00:16:00,335 --> 00:16:04,881 I feel like you've made the appropriate steps, 354 00:16:04,923 --> 00:16:07,050 um, to, like, be prepared for this. 355 00:16:07,092 --> 00:16:10,178 What about the Book of Mormon? Have you read that? 356 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:13,264 -Yeah, I'm reading it right now. -What do you think of it? 357 00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,974 -Very action packed. -Really? 358 00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:17,519 -Yep. -That's interesting. 359 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,270 No, I have not read the Book of Mormon, 360 00:16:19,312 --> 00:16:20,897 but based on the things 361 00:16:20,939 --> 00:16:22,607 I'm hearing about this book, I kind of want to read it. 362 00:16:22,649 --> 00:16:25,193 You can turn into a movie, and it'd, like, be good. 363 00:16:25,235 --> 00:16:29,114 I'm, like, shocked that Jack is reading it before me. 364 00:16:29,155 --> 00:16:30,949 I am an avid reader. 365 00:16:32,409 --> 00:16:34,411 Heather asked me if you've gone through the temple yet. 366 00:16:34,452 --> 00:16:35,995 And I'm like, "Not yet." 367 00:16:36,037 --> 00:16:37,622 She goes, "Are you or John gonna go?" 368 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:40,500 And I'm like, "Definitely John." I'm like, "I just have to think 369 00:16:40,542 --> 00:16:41,960 about, like, what's right for Jack." 370 00:16:42,002 --> 00:16:45,505 Going to the temple is like, next level commitment, 371 00:16:45,547 --> 00:16:48,967 and, you know, like, you're gonna have to wear garments. 372 00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:50,760 -And I respect the garments. -The G's. 373 00:16:50,802 --> 00:16:53,430 And so, and you know, I don't do that. 374 00:16:53,471 --> 00:16:55,223 I go to church every Sunday. 375 00:16:55,265 --> 00:16:57,892 The difference is the pretty buildings, the temples, 376 00:16:57,934 --> 00:16:59,811 you have to be worthy to go in them. 377 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:01,521 But your dad 100% will be in there with you. 378 00:17:01,563 --> 00:17:03,398 -Yeah. -Do you know what I mean? 379 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,108 Yep. 380 00:17:05,150 --> 00:17:06,818 Like, I might not feel worthy because 381 00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:09,195 I drink too much Diet Coke. 382 00:17:09,237 --> 00:17:10,822 Someone might not be-- feel worthy because 383 00:17:10,864 --> 00:17:12,282 they drink too much alcohol. 384 00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:14,075 Like, someone might not be worthy because 385 00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:15,660 they're hitting it with their neighbor. 386 00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:18,288 I mean, there's lots of reasons you don't go. 387 00:17:18,329 --> 00:17:20,206 It's not like I'm doing anything wrong, Jack, 388 00:17:20,248 --> 00:17:21,708 but I could do more right. 389 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:24,210 Like, there's been a night that I don't go to bed, 390 00:17:24,252 --> 00:17:27,088 like, thinking, like, was I a good enough mom today? 391 00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:31,092 Clearly I'm a great mom if you made this decision. 392 00:17:31,134 --> 00:17:33,261 No, the decision was all me, though. 393 00:17:33,303 --> 00:17:35,180 That's why I didn't tell you. 394 00:17:35,221 --> 00:17:37,390 I know. 395 00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:39,601 I'm excited. 396 00:17:39,642 --> 00:17:42,062 I'm excited for you. I love you. 397 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:45,398 -Love you. -I love you so much. 398 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,192 -My little bestie. -Yep. 399 00:17:48,526 --> 00:17:49,819 Coming up... 400 00:17:49,861 --> 00:17:51,071 I think Heather finally 401 00:17:51,112 --> 00:17:53,323 is willing to try and learn to trust me. 402 00:17:53,365 --> 00:17:58,036 She has never given me that. This is ----ing bullsh--. 403 00:18:04,918 --> 00:18:15,637 *** 404 00:18:19,808 --> 00:18:22,686 Hey, Ange. 405 00:18:22,727 --> 00:18:24,145 -Hello. -Hey! 406 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:26,272 Oh, my gosh, you guys. 407 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:28,274 I love coming to a Greek's house 'cause I know I'm gonna eat. 408 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:30,110 -You're gonna eat with me. -[laughs] 409 00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:30,944 Aw, it's so good to see you guys. 410 00:18:30,985 --> 00:18:32,570 We brought you something. 411 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:35,156 Yeah. We brought you all the necessary things. 412 00:18:35,198 --> 00:18:37,367 Wow. Thank you. Come on in. Can I take your purses? 413 00:18:37,409 --> 00:18:38,743 Is Shawn here? 414 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:40,245 He just took a Elektra to horseback riding lessons. 415 00:18:40,286 --> 00:18:41,955 -Oh, he did? -Yeah. Uh-huh. 416 00:18:41,996 --> 00:18:44,916 Oh, my gosh. I love this. All my favorite things. 417 00:18:44,958 --> 00:18:46,418 -Help yourselves. -Do you have Diet Coke? 418 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,294 -Oh, Lord. -It's okay if you don't. 419 00:18:48,336 --> 00:18:49,838 I can grab one on my way home. 420 00:18:49,879 --> 00:18:53,133 She probably has one in her car. In fact, I did. I saw a cup. 421 00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,468 On a normal day, I would have grabbed you some. 422 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:56,886 No, no, no. It's good. 423 00:18:56,928 --> 00:18:58,596 I'm, like, uh, you know, little sleep-deprived. 424 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:00,473 How are you feeling? 425 00:19:00,515 --> 00:19:02,726 Guys... [sighs] I'm still processing. 426 00:19:02,767 --> 00:19:07,272 I mean, I feel like I'm half asleep right now. 427 00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:09,816 Do you guys want to sit down, and I'll bring this over? 428 00:19:09,858 --> 00:19:11,443 Yeah, no, we can sit down. 429 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:14,154 I am definitely worried about Angie. 430 00:19:14,195 --> 00:19:15,613 I know what it feels like. I went through this. 431 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:18,366 I mean, I wish someone had checked in on me last year. 432 00:19:18,408 --> 00:19:21,202 Instead, I had to go to bed eating a burrito. 433 00:19:21,244 --> 00:19:23,329 I'm so grateful that you guys are here. 434 00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:24,789 I just keep looking at you, and it's like this 435 00:19:24,831 --> 00:19:27,667 sort of sense of relief because this has been hard... 436 00:19:27,709 --> 00:19:29,210 -Oh, my God. -...to put a smile on my face 437 00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:31,046 in front of my daughter 438 00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:33,631 and talk to Shawn this morning about it. 439 00:19:33,673 --> 00:19:36,217 I just--I told him. 440 00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:40,347 -He cried. -Oh, my God. 441 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:42,057 Because now there's a little person involved. 442 00:19:42,098 --> 00:19:45,226 You know, I--to see him like that just crushed me. 443 00:19:45,268 --> 00:19:46,686 -It's the worst. -It's-- 444 00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:50,023 But because of the impact it's gonna have on Elektra. 445 00:19:50,065 --> 00:19:52,859 She's gonna hear this, and it's out there. 446 00:19:52,901 --> 00:19:54,778 How is this gonna affect my daughter? 447 00:19:54,819 --> 00:19:56,988 Mm-hmm. 448 00:19:57,030 --> 00:20:01,409 [voice breaking] But he's like, "I've been working so hard 449 00:20:01,451 --> 00:20:05,580 to be her hero and, like, everything that I've worked for, 450 00:20:05,622 --> 00:20:08,041 and I would never want her to think 451 00:20:08,083 --> 00:20:09,959 that I would do that to our family. 452 00:20:10,001 --> 00:20:16,049 Ange, I was just in your shoes. No one believes this bullsh--. 453 00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:17,217 You and Shawn are like me and John. 454 00:20:17,258 --> 00:20:18,593 We work together. We do everything. 455 00:20:18,635 --> 00:20:19,761 -We're family. -We are inseparable, 456 00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:21,388 the three of us. -Yeah. 457 00:20:21,429 --> 00:20:22,639 We know where your husband sleeps. 458 00:20:22,681 --> 00:20:24,057 He sleeps in your bed with Elektra. 459 00:20:24,099 --> 00:20:25,767 -Every night. -Yes. 460 00:20:25,809 --> 00:20:27,060 -Every night. -Yes. [laughs] 461 00:20:27,102 --> 00:20:28,770 We all go to bed at the same time. 462 00:20:28,812 --> 00:20:30,271 -[laughs] -And last night, 463 00:20:30,313 --> 00:20:31,773 when we went to bed, she, like, grabbed and held my hand, 464 00:20:31,815 --> 00:20:34,609 and I fell asleep with her little hand in mine. 465 00:20:34,651 --> 00:20:37,320 And I just thought, you know, this is what matters. 466 00:20:37,362 --> 00:20:39,155 And the biggest thing here 467 00:20:39,197 --> 00:20:41,449 is how am I going to navigate this in front of her? 468 00:20:41,491 --> 00:20:43,159 I'm in a weird position because 469 00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:45,620 I'm trying to build a friendship back with Meredith, 470 00:20:45,662 --> 00:20:49,082 but, like, in my head, I'm like, no, no, no, no, 471 00:20:49,124 --> 00:20:52,585 pump the brakes, because how do I stay silent 472 00:20:52,627 --> 00:20:56,172 when she's, like, literally the exact same thing 473 00:20:56,214 --> 00:20:58,258 doing to you what she did to me. 474 00:20:58,299 --> 00:21:00,552 It's literally a formula, 475 00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:02,929 and you just--it's like, take Lisa's name out, 476 00:21:02,971 --> 00:21:04,139 insert Angie's. 477 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,850 My advice is do not feed into Meredith. 478 00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:08,309 You did nothing wrong. 479 00:21:08,351 --> 00:21:09,269 Learn from my experience last year... 480 00:21:09,310 --> 00:21:10,645 -Well... -In mind, in mind. 481 00:21:10,687 --> 00:21:12,772 I wish I would have just been like, stop, move on. 482 00:21:12,814 --> 00:21:15,275 -She is not worth it. -No. 483 00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:17,777 Why is Monica saying so much, though? 484 00:21:17,819 --> 00:21:19,487 *** 485 00:21:19,529 --> 00:21:24,242 I honestly felt like Monica, like, she had heard the rumor 486 00:21:24,284 --> 00:21:26,202 and she was like, "I wanna be a good friend to Angie," 487 00:21:26,244 --> 00:21:27,871 like, in the moment. 488 00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:31,458 She ----ing makes up stuff just like that Snoop Dogg plane ride. 489 00:21:31,499 --> 00:21:33,668 *** 490 00:21:33,710 --> 00:21:36,504 I know, but the point-- like, I think that, 491 00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:39,215 yes, you and Monica had an interesting time 492 00:21:39,257 --> 00:21:41,801 in Palm Springs, and there was that whole thing. 493 00:21:41,843 --> 00:21:45,305 But I-I think it is important to remember 494 00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:47,098 that she had the courage to tell you. 495 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,100 Like, she was being a good friend to you. 496 00:21:49,142 --> 00:21:50,685 Well, I'm grateful you both sat me down. 497 00:21:50,727 --> 00:21:52,187 I-I am. 498 00:21:52,228 --> 00:21:54,189 Monica's not the one to be blamed for this 499 00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:57,442 just because she said what the rumor was. 500 00:21:57,484 --> 00:22:00,570 She's Meredith's decoy, and I just can't believe that 501 00:22:00,612 --> 00:22:02,655 Lisa is really, like, falling for it, too. 502 00:22:02,697 --> 00:22:07,410 Like, Meredith is the one who started this. 503 00:22:07,452 --> 00:22:09,287 It was a rough one, and I could not have gotten through-- 504 00:22:09,329 --> 00:22:10,747 -Well, you're doing so well. -You know what, Angie-- 505 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:13,124 Like, you're--I honestly thought we were gonna come over 506 00:22:13,166 --> 00:22:14,501 to a different situation. -Yeah, you were so tough. 507 00:22:14,542 --> 00:22:16,628 You were so tough yesterday, too. Like, yeah. 508 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:18,171 WHITNEY: You're strong. You're a badass. 509 00:22:18,213 --> 00:22:20,340 Well, thank you. I do have to ask, 510 00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:23,051 how do you feel about Heather after yesterday? 511 00:22:23,093 --> 00:22:24,678 So, you know, I told her, I'm like, 512 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:26,846 "You're the last one to know, but Jack's going on a mission." 513 00:22:26,888 --> 00:22:30,308 And you know, I'm like, "This is a positive experience for Jack." 514 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:32,519 I don't need to argue it with Heather. 515 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,396 I want you to know, after Palm Springs, 516 00:22:34,437 --> 00:22:37,357 I've seen a different side of Heather, 517 00:22:37,399 --> 00:22:41,152 and...she invited me to her house. 518 00:22:44,572 --> 00:22:50,036 You said a lot of mean, horrible things to me about my life. 519 00:22:50,078 --> 00:22:51,579 And I'm sorry. 520 00:22:51,621 --> 00:22:55,375 Look, you've seen I get hot and say things, and I apologize. 521 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,502 I have to say I had mad respect for you. 522 00:22:57,544 --> 00:23:00,296 Like, I don't think I could have survived that trip 523 00:23:00,338 --> 00:23:03,383 the way you did, And I wanna apologize 524 00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:06,386 that I didn't show up for you at all. I'm really sorry. 525 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:08,680 Well, the fact that you are acknowledging that 526 00:23:08,722 --> 00:23:10,265 means the world to me. 527 00:23:10,306 --> 00:23:13,101 It gives me a glimmer of hope that you and I can move forward. 528 00:23:13,143 --> 00:23:16,563 And look, I was...honored, 529 00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:18,273 actually, that she invited me into her home 530 00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,900 because I've known her since I was 15, 531 00:23:20,942 --> 00:23:23,153 and I don't like the tension. 532 00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:24,404 Mm-hmm. 533 00:23:24,446 --> 00:23:26,406 I think Heather finally opened up to me, 534 00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:28,658 and she said that in Palm Springs, 535 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:32,412 she really felt bad that she sat back 536 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:36,624 while I was... taking all that sh--. 537 00:23:36,666 --> 00:23:39,210 I think because it felt layered on, and she sat-- 538 00:23:39,252 --> 00:23:41,004 you know, she was part of it. -No, the layers are never good. 539 00:23:41,046 --> 00:23:42,756 She was part of it. 540 00:23:42,797 --> 00:23:44,924 I think she started to feel really guilty about it. 541 00:23:44,966 --> 00:23:46,176 -Mm-hmm. -Good. 542 00:23:46,217 --> 00:23:47,886 Yeah, it was layered. It was layered. 543 00:23:47,927 --> 00:23:49,220 Oh, I know what it feels like to be layered on, trust me. 544 00:23:49,262 --> 00:23:50,930 I know you do. I've seen it. 545 00:23:50,972 --> 00:23:53,975 I don't know. She was, like, really receptive. 546 00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:57,771 She was kind and that she said, "You took a lot of sh--. 547 00:23:57,812 --> 00:23:59,064 You have a lot of grit." 548 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:00,940 Oh, my gosh. You're lucky she gave that to you. 549 00:24:00,982 --> 00:24:02,609 -She's never done that with me. -Well, and, look-- 550 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:05,487 No, for real. Like, a lot's going through my mind right now. 551 00:24:05,528 --> 00:24:07,113 -And it-- -Because I'm like, 552 00:24:07,155 --> 00:24:09,699 I'm happy for you, but she has never given me that, 553 00:24:09,741 --> 00:24:12,035 like, ever,Ange. Ever. -Lisa, it's given me a lot-- 554 00:24:12,077 --> 00:24:13,661 It's--It's taken me a long time to get there. 555 00:24:13,703 --> 00:24:16,539 And I have mixed feelings about it. 556 00:24:16,581 --> 00:24:19,125 I am literally getting triggered by this because I'm like, 557 00:24:19,167 --> 00:24:21,503 where was this friendship last year? 558 00:24:21,544 --> 00:24:24,631 Like, this is ----ing bullsh--. 559 00:24:33,973 --> 00:24:35,058 Like, the amount of crap I have gone through 560 00:24:37,268 --> 00:24:39,104 and that she has seen me gone through, 561 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:42,774 like, I've had to put my hurt aside with a lot of things. 562 00:24:42,816 --> 00:24:44,818 -ANGIE: I know. -And for me, I'm like, 563 00:24:44,859 --> 00:24:47,195 you know what? Last year, Heather, if you even 564 00:24:47,237 --> 00:24:50,198 cared a 10th about me, you would have come to me 565 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,867 and said to me, like, "Hey, guess what? You took a beating. 566 00:24:52,909 --> 00:24:55,286 I saw you just getting brutalized, 567 00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:57,706 and I feel bad about it." 568 00:24:57,747 --> 00:24:59,874 It is so upsetting to me 569 00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:03,044 because where are my accolades for putting up with people 570 00:25:03,086 --> 00:25:06,297 talking about my family, my business, me behind my back? 571 00:25:06,339 --> 00:25:09,676 It's like, Angie, you had a bad weekend in Palm Springs. 572 00:25:09,718 --> 00:25:12,137 I had to endure it for three ----ing years. 573 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:14,097 Listen, Angie, you just went through sh-- yesterday. 574 00:25:14,139 --> 00:25:15,932 Like, literally, this is not about me, 575 00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:19,477 but I have had literally what you had times 10, Ange. 576 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,271 -ANGIE: I know. I know. -I know this ----ing sucks, 577 00:25:21,312 --> 00:25:22,647 and it's so raw. -It does. 578 00:25:22,689 --> 00:25:24,149 But it came, and it wouldn't stop. 579 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:25,483 I know. 580 00:25:25,525 --> 00:25:27,402 Somebody told Henry last week that they're like, 581 00:25:27,444 --> 00:25:29,696 "Oh, there's naked pictures of your mom online." 582 00:25:29,738 --> 00:25:31,406 Henry lost his mind. 583 00:25:31,448 --> 00:25:34,075 He called me hysterically crying. He's in fifth grade. 584 00:25:34,117 --> 00:25:36,828 And because of all this other stupid stuff, 585 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:38,288 it made him think for a minute, like, 586 00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:40,290 "Maybe there isthat about my mom." 587 00:25:40,331 --> 00:25:41,833 I get it, Lisa. 588 00:25:41,875 --> 00:25:45,420 Lisa's reaction is very shocking to me. 589 00:25:45,462 --> 00:25:48,923 Like, I had no idea that she was harboring so many feelings 590 00:25:48,965 --> 00:25:52,260 from last year, but, like, Lisa, read the room. 591 00:25:52,302 --> 00:25:54,137 The timing is not right. 592 00:25:54,179 --> 00:25:57,098 Like, we came over here to make Angie feel better. 593 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:59,059 I had the sh-- kicked out of me emotionally, 594 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,935 and I was just, like, [bleep] it all because 595 00:26:00,977 --> 00:26:02,979 no one's there for me for a time, 596 00:26:03,021 --> 00:26:04,689 and I'm just like, whatever. 597 00:26:04,731 --> 00:26:06,983 Is it hard to sit here and hear that she got invited over, 598 00:26:07,025 --> 00:26:09,110 got an apology... -You--You got an apology. 599 00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:10,779 -...and you never did? -"Oh, I wanna get to know you"? 600 00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:12,947 I have never gotten that from Heather. 601 00:26:12,989 --> 00:26:15,825 I like myself too much. Like, I like who I am. 602 00:26:15,867 --> 00:26:18,495 I like myself too much to even deal with this. 603 00:26:18,536 --> 00:26:20,580 I'm good with you guys. That's all I ----ing care about. 604 00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:22,791 Everybody else-- we'll figure it out. 605 00:26:22,832 --> 00:26:26,419 *** 606 00:26:26,461 --> 00:26:35,136 *** 607 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:42,394 *** 608 00:26:42,435 --> 00:26:46,481 It's been a little bit of a rough few days. 609 00:26:46,523 --> 00:26:50,026 After my friend Kathy and I left Lisa's party... 610 00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:51,319 [voice echoing] She's not my problem. 611 00:26:51,361 --> 00:26:52,654 She's her own problem. 612 00:26:52,696 --> 00:26:54,322 We got in the car, 613 00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:57,659 and we're driving for about 15 minutes or so 614 00:26:57,701 --> 00:27:00,745 in a terrible, terrible snowstorm. 615 00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:03,790 And our driver lost control of the car. 616 00:27:03,832 --> 00:27:06,001 [screaming] 617 00:27:06,042 --> 00:27:08,670 On one side of the road was the cliff, 618 00:27:08,712 --> 00:27:10,630 and the other side was a snowbank. 619 00:27:10,672 --> 00:27:12,132 [voice breaking] And it appeared 620 00:27:12,173 --> 00:27:15,427 that we were going to go over the cliff. 621 00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:16,678 [tires screech] 622 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,638 And he somehow gained enough control 623 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,849 to steer us into the snowbank. 624 00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:25,020 -[beeping] -It was...terrifying. 625 00:27:25,061 --> 00:27:28,231 I thought I was dying. 626 00:27:28,273 --> 00:27:31,818 I thought my last interactions of significance 627 00:27:31,860 --> 00:27:33,737 were what just happened at Lisa's party 628 00:27:33,778 --> 00:27:36,322 that was just ugly and mean. 629 00:27:36,364 --> 00:27:39,576 And I decided I really wanna spend my time 630 00:27:39,617 --> 00:27:42,287 with the people that I care about the most, 631 00:27:42,328 --> 00:27:45,540 because we never know when it's ending. 632 00:27:45,582 --> 00:27:47,083 *** 633 00:27:47,125 --> 00:27:50,503 I'm like, I'm--I'm...Yeah. 634 00:27:50,545 --> 00:27:51,838 [sniffles] 635 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,215 Can we come back to this? 636 00:27:54,257 --> 00:27:57,093 So, what's going on on the dating front? 637 00:27:57,135 --> 00:27:58,803 Nothing serious with anyone. 638 00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:02,390 I mean, I just got out of, like, a serious relationship. 639 00:28:02,432 --> 00:28:06,227 So, I feel like that's the last thing that I want. 640 00:28:06,269 --> 00:28:07,395 [laughs] 641 00:28:07,437 --> 00:28:11,316 Well, it was a great first relationship. 642 00:28:11,358 --> 00:28:12,901 You know? I mean... 643 00:28:12,942 --> 00:28:16,571 Well, yeah, I completely agree. 644 00:28:16,613 --> 00:28:20,241 He was fun and...you know, 645 00:28:20,283 --> 00:28:21,493 moving on. 646 00:28:21,534 --> 00:28:24,037 Watching Brooks navigate his first relationship 647 00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:25,872 was incredible. 648 00:28:25,914 --> 00:28:27,582 What do you want? What are you looking for? 649 00:28:27,624 --> 00:28:29,209 I don't know. 650 00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:30,794 And now Brooks has become, 651 00:28:30,835 --> 00:28:33,880 you know, more secure in his own being. 652 00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:35,757 Do you know what you don't want? 653 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:37,509 I don't know what I don't want. 654 00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:41,596 It's wild to see him feeling comfortable and open. 655 00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:44,432 I like that Dad brings me coffee in bed every morning. 656 00:28:44,474 --> 00:28:47,102 I don't need my boyfriend to do that. 657 00:28:47,143 --> 00:28:50,105 Um...well, if you have a date 658 00:28:50,146 --> 00:28:52,023 or someone special you wanna invite, 659 00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:54,901 I'm hoping that, um, you guys 660 00:28:54,943 --> 00:28:57,278 will all come to the GLAAD Awards in L.A. 661 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,489 They have asked me to sit on the host committee, 662 00:28:59,531 --> 00:29:01,408 and--and they've asked me to join the board. 663 00:29:01,449 --> 00:29:02,575 Congratulations. 664 00:29:02,617 --> 00:29:04,577 Thank you. 665 00:29:04,619 --> 00:29:06,538 Most supportive mom I know. 666 00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:09,124 Thanks, honey. 667 00:29:09,165 --> 00:29:11,167 Are you so excited to go snowshoeing? 668 00:29:11,209 --> 00:29:16,381 Yes. However, this weather is a little intimidating. 669 00:29:16,423 --> 00:29:19,968 I like how you're just using your goggles and sunglasses 670 00:29:20,010 --> 00:29:21,636 while you drive. 671 00:29:21,678 --> 00:29:23,013 Thanks. 672 00:29:23,054 --> 00:29:24,973 I like that you're wearing a 40-inch ponytail 673 00:29:25,015 --> 00:29:26,641 when we snowshoe. 674 00:29:26,683 --> 00:29:27,892 [laughter] 675 00:29:27,934 --> 00:29:30,812 BROOKS: We're here. 676 00:29:30,854 --> 00:29:33,314 The land of snowshoeing. 677 00:29:33,356 --> 00:29:37,819 Whoo! All right, let's do it. 678 00:29:37,861 --> 00:29:41,656 *** 679 00:29:41,698 --> 00:29:43,867 MEREDITH: Wow. 680 00:29:43,908 --> 00:29:45,076 *** 681 00:29:45,118 --> 00:29:46,578 Here's your snowshoe. 682 00:29:46,619 --> 00:29:48,872 Okay, let's see if I can figure this out. 683 00:29:48,913 --> 00:29:51,541 I havedone this before. 684 00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:54,210 You want help? 685 00:29:54,252 --> 00:29:56,463 Let me be your ski concierge. 686 00:29:56,504 --> 00:29:58,590 -Ow! [laughs] -Sorry. Sorry. [laughs] 687 00:29:58,631 --> 00:30:00,675 BROOKS: It's like a stretch putting these on. 688 00:30:00,717 --> 00:30:03,470 MEREDITH: Maybe you should stretch a little more often. 689 00:30:03,511 --> 00:30:05,972 BROOKS: Trust me, I get stretched all the time. 690 00:30:06,014 --> 00:30:07,557 MEREDITH: Okay, enough. 691 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:09,684 *** 692 00:30:09,726 --> 00:30:11,561 Let's go. 693 00:30:11,603 --> 00:30:17,901 *** 694 00:30:17,942 --> 00:30:18,943 Come on! 695 00:30:18,985 --> 00:30:22,781 I'm not running. [laughs] 696 00:30:22,822 --> 00:30:27,035 *** 697 00:30:27,077 --> 00:30:28,078 Coming up... 698 00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:29,496 Don't just walk into my house. 699 00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,373 I knock, and nobody answers the door. 700 00:30:31,414 --> 00:30:34,084 You just walk in. I could be having sex, 701 00:30:34,125 --> 00:30:37,379 69 on the couch, and you would just walk in and see it. 702 00:30:45,261 --> 00:30:46,846 *** 703 00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:54,813 Hey, Monica, Nana's hungry. 704 00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:56,106 Can we get Nana some lunch 705 00:30:56,147 --> 00:30:57,941 before we go to the senior center? 706 00:30:57,982 --> 00:30:59,442 Yeah, sure. Nana, are you hungry? 707 00:30:59,484 --> 00:31:02,821 She likes the, um, fish sandwiches at McDonald's. 708 00:31:02,862 --> 00:31:04,155 Oh, my gosh. 709 00:31:06,157 --> 00:31:08,785 Moving around so much as a kid, 710 00:31:08,827 --> 00:31:13,707 I didn't get to know my cousins and aunts and uncles, 711 00:31:13,748 --> 00:31:18,128 but my grandmother and I were always very, very close. 712 00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:19,754 And a large fry. 713 00:31:19,796 --> 00:31:24,342 My grandmother and I are like... soul sisters, 714 00:31:24,384 --> 00:31:27,053 and I know my time with her is limited, 715 00:31:27,095 --> 00:31:30,265 and I definitely don't take it for granted. 716 00:31:30,306 --> 00:31:32,434 Nana, do you want some ice cream? 717 00:31:32,475 --> 00:31:33,476 No? 718 00:31:33,518 --> 00:31:35,562 Ooh! Nana, you want a French fry? 719 00:31:35,603 --> 00:31:38,648 Give her her sandwich. She's hangry. 720 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:41,484 Oh, as soon as she sees the center ladies, 721 00:31:41,526 --> 00:31:44,571 she'll perk up, as--as soon as she sees her friends. 722 00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:46,489 Nana, you love your program, huh? 723 00:31:47,741 --> 00:31:48,992 [chuckles] 724 00:31:49,034 --> 00:31:51,453 MONICA: Nana. 725 00:31:51,494 --> 00:31:54,330 *** 726 00:31:54,372 --> 00:31:55,999 MONICA: [singsongy] Okay, we're here. 727 00:31:56,041 --> 00:32:03,089 *** 728 00:32:03,131 --> 00:32:07,344 Hi, everybody! Did you meet my daughter? 729 00:32:07,385 --> 00:32:10,347 -This is Olivia's granddaughter. -Yes. 730 00:32:10,388 --> 00:32:13,016 -Nice to meet you. -Nice to meet you guys. 731 00:32:13,058 --> 00:32:15,352 My grandma loves coming here so much. 732 00:32:15,393 --> 00:32:17,896 She loves you guys so much. 733 00:32:17,937 --> 00:32:20,398 I'm gonna come sit right here. 734 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,609 What are you guys playing? 735 00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:25,987 So, when Marie calls, like, a 5 of Clubs, 736 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:27,489 you put it in here. 737 00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:29,699 Oh, okay. 738 00:32:29,741 --> 00:32:32,827 What are we playing for? Are we playing for money? 739 00:32:32,869 --> 00:32:35,163 [laughter] 740 00:32:35,205 --> 00:32:37,499 Oh, we're playing for Coke. Okay. 741 00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:38,750 Here we go. 742 00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:42,629 King of Spades. We're right out of the gate. 743 00:32:42,671 --> 00:32:44,130 MONICA: Right out the gate with the King, 744 00:32:44,172 --> 00:32:46,091 ladies and gentlemen, 745 00:32:46,132 --> 00:32:48,677 -Jack of Clubs. -Jack of Clubs. 746 00:32:50,762 --> 00:32:52,639 -Me. -Oh, Nana! 747 00:32:52,681 --> 00:32:53,807 Yay! 748 00:32:55,308 --> 00:32:57,894 You're the best dealer. She's got the energy. 749 00:32:57,936 --> 00:32:59,813 Okay... 750 00:32:59,854 --> 00:33:03,149 I'm out. Mom, do you wanna go get some coffee? Okay. 751 00:33:05,235 --> 00:33:07,570 You know what? I think you can find a man here. 752 00:33:07,612 --> 00:33:09,447 -Oh, my gosh. -Come and scope out 753 00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:11,074 the senior citizens? -What about the one-- 754 00:33:11,116 --> 00:33:15,120 Oh, the cutest one is leaving. He's leaving. Story of my life. 755 00:33:15,161 --> 00:33:17,580 -Go get his number. -Shut up. 756 00:33:17,622 --> 00:33:18,957 -[Monica snickers] -Oh, my gosh. 757 00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:20,917 I had a date Thursday that I have to tell you about. 758 00:33:20,959 --> 00:33:22,919 -Oh, God. -Yeah. 759 00:33:22,961 --> 00:33:24,087 Okay, let's sit down. 760 00:33:24,129 --> 00:33:26,381 -2 of Clubs. -All right, 761 00:33:26,423 --> 00:33:28,925 can I tell you about my date? -How old is he? 762 00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:31,428 He's two years younger than me, so he's close to my age. 763 00:33:31,469 --> 00:33:33,263 -That's good. -Yeah. [laughs] 764 00:33:33,304 --> 00:33:35,598 -'Cause they never... -Hey. 765 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,935 -[laughs] -Uh, anyway, so he hits me up 766 00:33:38,977 --> 00:33:42,439 on Thursday, and he invited me to spend the weekend with him. 767 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,442 -Did you have fun? -He ghosted me. 768 00:33:46,609 --> 00:33:48,653 You must have done something. 769 00:33:48,695 --> 00:33:52,991 -I did. -Queen of Diamonds! 770 00:33:53,033 --> 00:33:56,119 -What did you do? -I told him... 771 00:33:56,161 --> 00:33:58,663 Queen of Hearts. Yeah. 772 00:33:58,705 --> 00:33:59,873 MONICA: What? 773 00:33:59,914 --> 00:34:03,126 That even though I'm not Mormon anymore, 774 00:34:03,168 --> 00:34:04,794 I'm still celibate. 775 00:34:04,836 --> 00:34:06,463 [laughs] Mom! 776 00:34:06,504 --> 00:34:08,590 I don't believe in sex before marriage. 777 00:34:08,631 --> 00:34:09,632 Mom. 778 00:34:09,674 --> 00:34:11,968 It is confusing that she is 779 00:34:12,010 --> 00:34:16,931 still following the doctrine but has left the Church. 780 00:34:16,973 --> 00:34:20,435 Somehow I think it makes her feel like a-a better person. 781 00:34:20,477 --> 00:34:22,187 Okay, I may be doing this, or I may be doing that, 782 00:34:22,228 --> 00:34:24,397 but I'm not having sex before marriage. 783 00:34:24,439 --> 00:34:27,192 Do you still consider yourself Mormon? 784 00:34:27,233 --> 00:34:30,904 I struggle with it, genuinely. 785 00:34:30,945 --> 00:34:33,948 Do you want to raise the girls in the Church? 786 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:39,704 Because I believe wholeheartedly that those girls need Jesus. 787 00:34:41,164 --> 00:34:42,791 -They need scripture. -Okay, but do you realize-- 788 00:34:42,832 --> 00:34:44,626 They need prayer. They need to learn how to pray. 789 00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:47,128 Okay, stop. Stop. For real. 790 00:34:47,170 --> 00:34:49,673 Because when you left the Church, you came to me, 791 00:34:49,714 --> 00:34:51,758 and you apologized for raising me in the Church. 792 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,677 -No, I didn't. -Yes, you did. 793 00:34:53,718 --> 00:34:56,971 You were like, "I'm so sorry that I raised you in this." 794 00:34:57,013 --> 00:34:58,723 I don't remember that. 795 00:34:58,765 --> 00:35:00,934 That's wild, because I will never forget that. 796 00:35:02,644 --> 00:35:04,521 -Um... -But now you want me 797 00:35:04,562 --> 00:35:06,648 to raise my kids in it. Do you know what I'm saying? 798 00:35:06,690 --> 00:35:10,527 What I think is important is family prayer. 799 00:35:10,568 --> 00:35:13,530 It's a joy to be the spiritual leader of your family. 800 00:35:13,571 --> 00:35:16,282 -Okay. -Every Sunday, we never missed. 801 00:35:16,324 --> 00:35:18,034 -We went to church every Sunday. -And guess what? Your daughter 802 00:35:18,076 --> 00:35:20,036 still got knocked up at 19. -It was good-- 803 00:35:20,078 --> 00:35:22,455 You are literally saying 804 00:35:22,497 --> 00:35:26,209 if you don't go to church every Sunday, 805 00:35:26,251 --> 00:35:28,211 I'm raising my kids wrong. 806 00:35:28,253 --> 00:35:31,798 I do more with my kids than you everdid with me, 807 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,133 and that is a fact. 808 00:35:33,174 --> 00:35:36,011 -I was a single parent. -I was a single parent! 809 00:35:36,052 --> 00:35:37,387 Making almost no money. 810 00:35:37,429 --> 00:35:39,723 I made $6.25 an hour when I had Bri. 811 00:35:39,764 --> 00:35:41,808 I was on food stamps. I was on state assistance. 812 00:35:41,850 --> 00:35:43,018 I was on all the things. 813 00:35:43,059 --> 00:35:45,395 We need to stop having a pissing contest. 814 00:35:45,437 --> 00:35:47,897 I'm your mother. I am not your equal. 815 00:35:47,939 --> 00:35:49,566 -Mom-- -There has to be boundaries. 816 00:35:49,607 --> 00:35:52,193 -You don't wanna go there. -I do. 817 00:35:52,235 --> 00:35:53,570 Okay, let's talk about a boundary 818 00:35:53,611 --> 00:35:55,572 that you literally cannot learn, 819 00:35:55,613 --> 00:35:58,366 which is don't just walk into my house. You just walk in. 820 00:35:58,408 --> 00:36:00,368 I knock, and nobody answers the door. 821 00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:03,872 I could be having sex, 69 on the couch, 822 00:36:03,913 --> 00:36:05,707 and you would just walk in and see it, 823 00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:07,250 and we would never be the same again. 824 00:36:07,292 --> 00:36:10,295 *** 825 00:36:10,337 --> 00:36:12,672 MARIE: 4 of Clubs. All right. 826 00:36:12,714 --> 00:36:16,468 Lock your door if you're gonna have 69 on the couch. 827 00:36:16,509 --> 00:36:18,845 I'm just saying. Let's start with that one. 828 00:36:18,887 --> 00:36:20,722 -That would be great. -[sighs] Okay, what else? 829 00:36:20,764 --> 00:36:21,973 Don't say nasty things about me. 830 00:36:22,015 --> 00:36:23,433 -Like what? -Like when you forgot to hang up 831 00:36:23,475 --> 00:36:24,601 on me on the phone the other day. 832 00:36:24,642 --> 00:36:26,644 I didn't know you were on the phone. 833 00:36:26,686 --> 00:36:28,605 Recently, we were having a disagreement. 834 00:36:28,646 --> 00:36:30,774 She thought that the call dropped, 835 00:36:30,815 --> 00:36:33,735 and it hung up, and it did not. 836 00:36:33,777 --> 00:36:36,279 "You ----ing piece of sh--. 837 00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:38,865 I hate your ----ing guts, 838 00:36:38,907 --> 00:36:41,326 you ----ing bitch. 839 00:36:41,368 --> 00:36:43,119 I ----ing can't stand you." 840 00:36:43,161 --> 00:36:46,623 OLIVIA: Nicki, on this place, you don't talk dirty. 841 00:36:46,664 --> 00:36:48,083 MONICA: That was your daughter. That's what she said. 842 00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:49,834 I was repeating it, Nana. 843 00:36:49,876 --> 00:36:54,756 I don't care who is. No dirty here. 844 00:36:54,798 --> 00:36:58,259 -Mom, honestly... -[laughing] 845 00:36:58,301 --> 00:37:01,179 -It's not ----ing funny. -I'm so sorry. 846 00:37:01,221 --> 00:37:02,555 *** 847 00:37:02,597 --> 00:37:04,641 I wish I could say that was the first time 848 00:37:04,683 --> 00:37:08,895 that had happened or that that wasn't normal, um... 849 00:37:08,937 --> 00:37:13,692 but that's very on par for... my mom. 850 00:37:13,733 --> 00:37:16,736 Like, in my worst days when I'm upset, 851 00:37:16,778 --> 00:37:20,073 I don't talk about hating my children's ----ing guts. 852 00:37:20,115 --> 00:37:21,908 I really don't. I've never-- 853 00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:24,411 Like, I can't even imagine saying that. 854 00:37:24,452 --> 00:37:26,579 Yeah. 855 00:37:26,621 --> 00:37:28,873 MARIE: Ace of Hearts! 856 00:37:36,131 --> 00:37:40,927 *** 857 00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:46,433 HEATHER: Hi! 858 00:37:46,474 --> 00:37:48,893 Who's this cool girl sitting over here? [laughs] 859 00:37:48,935 --> 00:37:50,854 [laughs] I did-- I did not even recognize you. 860 00:37:50,895 --> 00:37:52,731 -Yeah, I'm--Really? -[laughs] 861 00:37:52,772 --> 00:37:54,399 I've tried to turn up. 862 00:37:54,441 --> 00:37:56,234 Your boots match your entire fit, too. 863 00:37:56,276 --> 00:37:57,861 WHITNEY: I love it. 864 00:37:57,902 --> 00:38:00,238 I wouldn't want to ski with you if you weren't matching. 865 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,157 -Solid? -Solid. 866 00:38:02,198 --> 00:38:05,618 *** 867 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,455 -WHITNEY: You are going to fly. -HEATHER: Fly by. 868 00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:13,918 *** 869 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,171 Oh, we should hit that little jump. 870 00:38:16,212 --> 00:38:24,679 *** 871 00:38:24,721 --> 00:38:27,599 That's kind of a cool little contraption. 872 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,059 -Yeah. -I'll give myself a break, too. 873 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:30,226 Gonna give a break? Yeah. 874 00:38:30,268 --> 00:38:32,979 -Does that feel better? -Yeah. Thank you. 875 00:38:33,021 --> 00:38:35,732 -Fun party the other day. -[laughs] Oh, Lisa's party? 876 00:38:35,774 --> 00:38:37,275 -Yeah. -Did you have a good time? 877 00:38:37,317 --> 00:38:40,945 I mean, I had fun until the end. It was crazy. 878 00:38:40,987 --> 00:38:43,490 I know. Well, I talked to Lisa about Jack going on his mission 879 00:38:43,531 --> 00:38:45,075 at the Aprés Ski, and she was like, 880 00:38:45,116 --> 00:38:46,951 "You're the last person I've told." 881 00:38:46,993 --> 00:38:48,620 And I was like, why didn't she wanna tell me? 882 00:38:48,661 --> 00:38:50,497 I know more about missions than anybody here. 883 00:38:50,538 --> 00:38:52,957 Why was I the last to know? 884 00:38:52,999 --> 00:38:55,960 It seems like it's just like a sore spot for you. 885 00:38:56,002 --> 00:38:58,296 -Like, it does it bug you? -It doesn't bug you? 886 00:38:58,338 --> 00:39:00,215 [sighs] I don't really care. 887 00:39:00,256 --> 00:39:03,218 Like, honestly, good for him. 888 00:39:03,259 --> 00:39:05,679 -Good for him? -Yeah. 889 00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:07,263 -Why? -I think that he's doing 890 00:39:07,305 --> 00:39:11,309 what he thinks is good for him at this point in his life. 891 00:39:11,351 --> 00:39:12,977 *** 892 00:39:13,019 --> 00:39:14,813 And you don't have any global feelings about that 893 00:39:14,854 --> 00:39:16,773 in terms of, like, the Mormon Church? 894 00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:19,234 Oh, I have global feelings about the Mormon Church, 895 00:39:19,275 --> 00:39:20,694 but I don't really think 896 00:39:20,735 --> 00:39:23,405 about Jack and his relationship with the church. 897 00:39:23,446 --> 00:39:25,990 Whitney choosing to say, "Good for him" makes no sense. 898 00:39:26,032 --> 00:39:27,409 It's absurd. 899 00:39:27,450 --> 00:39:29,327 How can the Church be this horrible, traumatic thing 900 00:39:29,369 --> 00:39:30,954 that's ruined your life, 901 00:39:30,995 --> 00:39:32,539 that you wrote a letter to get away from... 902 00:39:32,580 --> 00:39:35,709 -Heather. -You printed it? 903 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:37,669 This is the letter. 904 00:39:37,711 --> 00:39:39,504 *** 905 00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:41,089 ...but also be good for him 906 00:39:41,131 --> 00:39:43,800 to go out there and convert more people to live it? 907 00:39:43,842 --> 00:39:45,051 You don't feel conflicted about it when 908 00:39:45,093 --> 00:39:47,887 he's actually gonna, like, go door to door... 909 00:39:47,929 --> 00:39:50,515 telling people to join the Mormon Church 910 00:39:50,557 --> 00:39:52,517 when you've just left it? 911 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:54,019 If I'm hearing you, do you feel like 912 00:39:54,060 --> 00:39:55,687 it's just, like, hypocritical? Is that... 913 00:39:55,729 --> 00:39:57,647 No, I just think, like, we are... 914 00:39:57,689 --> 00:39:59,149 -Like, he should be-- -...acting all supportive 915 00:39:59,190 --> 00:40:00,608 and excited about a guy that's gonna go out there 916 00:40:00,650 --> 00:40:04,112 and sell a church that we know can be very destructive 917 00:40:04,154 --> 00:40:06,322 and not give them any of the details, 918 00:40:06,364 --> 00:40:07,991 just have them sign on the dotted line, 919 00:40:08,033 --> 00:40:10,285 because that's what we do as missionaries. 920 00:40:10,326 --> 00:40:11,828 And I'm conflicted because I-- 921 00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:13,705 of course, I had good experiences 922 00:40:13,747 --> 00:40:15,415 and learned a language and got to see France 923 00:40:15,457 --> 00:40:16,875 and have all these things 924 00:40:16,916 --> 00:40:18,293 that didn't ruin my life on my mission, 925 00:40:18,335 --> 00:40:21,796 but I also had to convince people who didn't want 926 00:40:21,838 --> 00:40:24,674 to change their lives to join the Mormon Church, 927 00:40:24,716 --> 00:40:26,843 and I feel shame about that. 928 00:40:26,885 --> 00:40:29,387 Like, I feel bad that I changed 929 00:40:29,429 --> 00:40:32,599 and ruined a lot of people's lives with such conviction. 930 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,933 -Yeah. -And if he was recruiting 931 00:40:33,975 --> 00:40:36,853 for another institution that had the same issues, 932 00:40:36,895 --> 00:40:40,065 we would not be like, "I don't care. To each his own." 933 00:40:40,106 --> 00:40:41,900 What do you expect me to do, go knock on the door 934 00:40:41,941 --> 00:40:44,611 and be like, "Stop this"? 935 00:40:46,196 --> 00:40:48,198 I feel like we're not being honest about Church history, 936 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,743 that it's homophobic, 937 00:40:51,785 --> 00:40:52,994 that it disacknowledges any sort of transgender. 938 00:40:53,036 --> 00:40:55,872 It just says it doesn't exist. 939 00:40:55,914 --> 00:40:57,916 These are myfeelings about the Church. 940 00:40:57,957 --> 00:40:59,292 I know that they're not everyone's feelings 941 00:40:59,334 --> 00:41:02,253 about the Church, but they areWhitney's, 942 00:41:02,295 --> 00:41:04,923 from what she's expressed to me and what we have discussed 943 00:41:04,964 --> 00:41:07,926 and what we have cried about and bonded over, 944 00:41:07,967 --> 00:41:09,678 she felt the very same way. 945 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,680 -It's completely... -Sexist, 946 00:41:11,721 --> 00:41:14,099 ...sexist, misogynistic, bigoted, 947 00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:16,351 and it has a horrible, problematic, racist history. 948 00:41:16,393 --> 00:41:19,104 And so I feel like I'm in this, like, zone 949 00:41:19,145 --> 00:41:21,523 of where I'm trying to, like, form a new identity 950 00:41:21,564 --> 00:41:24,984 in a community that's telling me that I'm wrong. 951 00:41:25,026 --> 00:41:27,112 And that's how I feel writing this book. 952 00:41:27,153 --> 00:41:29,364 Like, I feel like I walk into a room, 953 00:41:29,406 --> 00:41:32,283 and everybody, like, assumes I'm their enemy. 954 00:41:32,325 --> 00:41:34,035 And I feel like that's kind of how Lisa felt. 955 00:41:34,077 --> 00:41:35,495 She didn't want to tell me about Jack's mission 956 00:41:35,537 --> 00:41:37,372 'cause she assumed I was gonna feel a certain kind of way 957 00:41:37,414 --> 00:41:39,124 'cause I wrote a certain kind of book. 958 00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:40,542 It's interesting that you say that, 959 00:41:40,583 --> 00:41:43,420 because I was with Lisa and Ange the other day, 960 00:41:43,461 --> 00:41:47,048 and Lisa had this major reaction 961 00:41:47,090 --> 00:41:49,134 to hearing that Angie came over to your house. 962 00:41:49,175 --> 00:41:51,302 She got mad that Angie came to my house? 963 00:41:51,344 --> 00:41:54,180 Yes. I think she was, like, jealous. Like, she was hurt. 964 00:41:54,222 --> 00:41:55,807 *** 965 00:41:55,849 --> 00:41:57,100 I'm really confused by Lisa. 966 00:41:57,142 --> 00:41:58,601 I don't know what she wants from me. 967 00:41:58,643 --> 00:42:01,396 If she wants to, like, have a compassionate friendship, 968 00:42:01,438 --> 00:42:03,565 you'd think she would tell me about Jack's mission 969 00:42:03,606 --> 00:42:06,317 and include me in all of that, but she didn't. 970 00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:09,195 But she's upset that I would extend myself to Angie. 971 00:42:09,237 --> 00:42:11,990 Like, she was really, like, butthurt about it. 972 00:42:12,032 --> 00:42:14,743 I've never seen anything like it before. 973 00:42:18,121 --> 00:42:21,249 Next time on "The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City"... 974 00:42:21,291 --> 00:42:23,835 Monica came to me like, "I'm your friend. 975 00:42:23,877 --> 00:42:26,338 I wanna tell this rumor to you." 976 00:42:26,379 --> 00:42:29,174 She's not your friend. That's the bottom line. 977 00:42:29,215 --> 00:42:31,176 I don't break down and cry very often. 978 00:42:31,217 --> 00:42:32,927 and to see your wedding ring in the drawer every day, 979 00:42:32,969 --> 00:42:34,804 that hurts me. 980 00:42:36,264 --> 00:42:37,557 [cheering] 981 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:40,393 I just wanted to start off by welcoming everyone 982 00:42:40,435 --> 00:42:42,062 to our Greek Easter lunch. 983 00:42:42,103 --> 00:42:44,481 Yourexperience growing up in the Church 984 00:42:44,522 --> 00:42:46,524 was totally different than my experience. 985 00:42:46,566 --> 00:42:48,568 You can't tell me that you have a different level of Mormonism. 986 00:42:48,610 --> 00:42:49,903 Our Mormonism is the same. 987 00:42:49,944 --> 00:42:52,322 You wrote a book about being a bad Mormon. 988 00:42:52,364 --> 00:42:54,532 I'm focused on my kid being a good Mormon. 989 00:42:54,574 --> 00:42:57,035 Difference between you and me is I don't ----ing hide it. 990 00:42:57,077 --> 00:43:00,038 Everyone here is talking sh-- behind your back. 991 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,750 I'm the only one saying it to your face. 992 00:43:03,792 --> 00:43:06,544 Tell herto stop it! 993 00:43:06,586 --> 00:43:08,004 Are you serious?! 994 00:43:08,046 --> 00:43:10,298 What is happening?