1 00:00:00,458 --> 00:00:01,876 [TV static drones] 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,921 [bright tone] 3 00:00:04,963 --> 00:00:06,589 [bright music] 4 00:00:06,631 --> 00:00:08,550 - Great news for Oklahoma: 5 00:00:08,633 --> 00:00:11,803 people are moving to the state in record numbers. 6 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,681 ♪ ♪ 7 00:00:14,764 --> 00:00:17,767 - If you want to see America, you got to see Oklahoma. 8 00:00:17,809 --> 00:00:20,729 ♪ ♪ 9 00:00:20,812 --> 00:00:23,732 - Southern hospitality is a way of life in Oklahoma. 10 00:00:23,815 --> 00:00:25,316 - We greet each other warmly, 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,152 and we say please and thank you. 12 00:00:27,193 --> 00:00:29,946 - Our public schools offer quality education, 13 00:00:29,988 --> 00:00:32,156 and crime rates are moderate. 14 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,952 - You'll find an ideal place to put down roots. 15 00:00:35,994 --> 00:00:37,996 ♪ ♪ 16 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:39,831 - This is just a place where you can have 17 00:00:39,873 --> 00:00:41,416 a really great life. 18 00:00:41,499 --> 00:00:43,168 ♪ ♪ 19 00:00:43,251 --> 00:00:47,505 - Baby, let me tell you. [laughs] 20 00:00:47,589 --> 00:00:48,840 If we were straight. 21 00:00:48,923 --> 00:00:50,633 [dramatic music] 22 00:00:50,675 --> 00:00:55,096 - We are here to judge you by the Word of God. 23 00:00:55,180 --> 00:00:57,891 You're an abomination in his sight. 24 00:00:57,974 --> 00:01:00,977 ♪ ♪ 25 00:01:01,019 --> 00:01:02,937 - No other state has seen 26 00:01:03,021 --> 00:01:05,565 more anti-LGBT legislation introduced. 27 00:01:05,648 --> 00:01:08,526 The battleground is right here in Oklahoma. 28 00:01:08,568 --> 00:01:09,444 ♪ ♪ 29 00:01:09,527 --> 00:01:11,571 - Drag performers could become felons 30 00:01:11,654 --> 00:01:14,115 for performing anywhere kids could be around. 31 00:01:14,199 --> 00:01:16,033 - Now, it's been stated by numerous Christians 32 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:18,244 and conservatives that the LGBT 33 00:01:18,328 --> 00:01:20,163 are coming for your children. 34 00:01:20,205 --> 00:01:21,998 I disagree. 35 00:01:22,039 --> 00:01:23,583 They're already here. 36 00:01:23,667 --> 00:01:26,336 ♪ ♪ 37 00:01:26,378 --> 00:01:29,964 [Lady Gaga's "The Edge of Glory"] 38 00:01:30,048 --> 00:01:31,716 - ♪ There ain't a reason you and me ♪ 39 00:01:31,758 --> 00:01:35,053 ♪ Should be alone tonight, yeah, baby ♪ 40 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:37,180 ♪ Tonight, yeah, baby ♪ 41 00:01:37,222 --> 00:01:39,015 - Hey. Ooh. - ♪ But I got a reason ♪ 42 00:01:39,057 --> 00:01:42,686 ♪ That you should take me home tonight ♪ 43 00:01:42,727 --> 00:01:44,145 ♪ ♪ 44 00:01:44,229 --> 00:01:48,233 ♪ I'm gonna run back to, to the edge with you ♪ 45 00:01:48,274 --> 00:01:50,068 ♪ Where we can both fall far in love ♪ 46 00:01:50,151 --> 00:01:51,820 - Let's go! 47 00:01:51,902 --> 00:01:55,323 - ♪ I'm on the edge of glory ♪ 48 00:01:55,407 --> 00:01:59,119 ♪ And I'm hangin' on a moment of truth ♪ 49 00:01:59,202 --> 00:02:03,331 ♪ Out on the edge of glory ♪ 50 00:02:03,415 --> 00:02:06,376 ♪ And I'm hangin' on a moment with you ♪ 51 00:02:06,418 --> 00:02:10,588 ♪ I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge ♪ 52 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:13,883 ♪ The edge, the edge, the edge ♪ 53 00:02:13,925 --> 00:02:17,679 ♪ I'm on the edge of glory ♪ 54 00:02:17,762 --> 00:02:22,392 ♪ And I'm hangin' on a moment with you ♪ 55 00:02:22,434 --> 00:02:25,228 ♪ I'm on the edge with you ♪ 56 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:28,106 [cheers and applause] 57 00:02:28,148 --> 00:02:29,274 ♪ Put on your shades ♪ 58 00:02:29,315 --> 00:02:31,109 ♪ 'Cause I'll be dancing in the flames ♪ 59 00:02:31,192 --> 00:02:32,819 ♪ Tonight, yeah, baby ♪ 60 00:02:32,902 --> 00:02:35,613 ♪ Tonight, yeah, baby ♪ 61 00:02:35,655 --> 00:02:39,826 ♪ It isn't hell if everybody knows my name tonight ♪ 62 00:02:39,909 --> 00:02:42,078 ♪ All right, all right ♪ 63 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,916 ♪ I'm on the edge of glory ♪ 64 00:02:46,958 --> 00:02:50,295 - Come on! Come on! Let's fucking go! 65 00:02:50,378 --> 00:02:53,757 - ♪ Out on the edge of glory ♪ 66 00:02:53,798 --> 00:02:56,968 ♪ And I'm hangin' on a moment with you ♪ 67 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,386 ♪ I'm on the edge ♪ 68 00:02:58,470 --> 00:03:01,473 - Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 69 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:04,309 - ♪ The edge, the edge, the edge ♪ 70 00:03:04,351 --> 00:03:08,730 ♪ I'm on the edge of glory ♪ 71 00:03:08,813 --> 00:03:12,859 ♪ And I'm hangin' on a moment with you ♪ 72 00:03:12,942 --> 00:03:16,905 ♪ I'm on the edge with you ♪ 73 00:03:16,988 --> 00:03:19,532 [cheers and applause] 74 00:03:19,616 --> 00:03:22,786 [dramatic music] 75 00:03:22,827 --> 00:03:25,413 - Drag is incredibly disarming for people. 76 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:27,999 They see the beauty 77 00:03:28,083 --> 00:03:29,834 and the smiles and the laughter. 78 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:31,753 - Did you ever think you'd see drag on the sidewalk like that? 79 00:03:31,795 --> 00:03:33,922 - No! [shouts] - [shouts] 80 00:03:34,005 --> 00:03:36,174 - That's the main message that I want to share with people, 81 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:38,259 to let that spirit of community 82 00:03:38,343 --> 00:03:39,678 give you the strength 83 00:03:39,761 --> 00:03:41,846 to put yourself on the front lines 84 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:43,180 and to resist. 85 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:45,475 - Drag is not a crime! 86 00:03:45,517 --> 00:03:49,020 all: Drag is not a crime! 87 00:03:49,062 --> 00:03:51,898 [cheers and applause] 88 00:03:51,981 --> 00:03:53,650 - ♪ Work and pop ♪ 89 00:03:53,692 --> 00:03:55,067 ♪ Work and pop ♪ 90 00:03:55,151 --> 00:03:57,112 - I haven't skipped in forever. 91 00:03:57,195 --> 00:03:58,571 Ooh, the skirt. 92 00:03:58,655 --> 00:03:59,948 What do you have on under there? 93 00:04:00,031 --> 00:04:01,574 - Nothing. [laughter] 94 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,118 Gays in the wild. 95 00:04:03,201 --> 00:04:04,536 - In Tennessee... 96 00:04:04,619 --> 00:04:06,246 - Well, it's a man and a horse. 97 00:04:06,329 --> 00:04:07,664 - Working with Jaida Essence Hall, 98 00:04:07,706 --> 00:04:10,041 it was a life-changing experience. 99 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:11,501 And here in Oklahoma... 100 00:04:11,543 --> 00:04:13,837 - Are we early? - Open your store. I'm gay. 101 00:04:13,878 --> 00:04:15,088 - Bringing in more voices, 102 00:04:15,171 --> 00:04:18,382 introducing people to many different types of drag... 103 00:04:18,425 --> 00:04:19,634 - Well, hello, Latrice Royale. - Aw. 104 00:04:19,718 --> 00:04:21,219 - Is essential. 105 00:04:21,302 --> 00:04:22,929 - I'm so excited that Latrice Royale is here. 106 00:04:23,013 --> 00:04:26,057 She is a queen that's not gonna take no for an answer, 107 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:27,684 not put up with anybody's shit. 108 00:04:27,726 --> 00:04:31,855 When Latrice is around, we know the queen has arrived. 109 00:04:31,896 --> 00:04:33,440 - ♪ Ooh, you like me ♪ 110 00:04:33,523 --> 00:04:35,191 ♪ Yeah, I know you feel me ♪ 111 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:37,318 - I am Latrice Royale. 112 00:04:37,402 --> 00:04:42,365 My pronouns are bitch, honey bitch, girl. 113 00:04:42,407 --> 00:04:43,616 And don't call me late for dinner. 114 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:45,284 - ♪ Work and pop ♪ - Hoo! 115 00:04:45,368 --> 00:04:46,703 - ♪ Work and pop ♪ 116 00:04:46,745 --> 00:04:49,289 - He waved. 117 00:04:49,372 --> 00:04:51,082 - Latrice is buying us coffee? 118 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:53,251 Oh, my God, Latrice. - I mean! 119 00:04:53,335 --> 00:04:56,504 - New girl's responsibility. 120 00:04:56,588 --> 00:04:58,923 - Oklahoma is one of the most 121 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:00,592 conservative states. - Yeah. 122 00:05:00,633 --> 00:05:02,594 - Like, when you drive in, you see all the churches. 123 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:04,012 - Everywhere. They're beautiful. 124 00:05:04,095 --> 00:05:05,680 - They're so nice. - But... 125 00:05:05,764 --> 00:05:07,932 - There's a church on every single corner. 126 00:05:07,974 --> 00:05:11,853 And that, to me, is telling for how religion 127 00:05:11,936 --> 00:05:15,440 is so infused into day-to-day culture here. 128 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:18,318 - As the authority that I have as governor, 129 00:05:18,401 --> 00:05:20,445 I claim Oklahoma for the name of Jesus. 130 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:23,573 - Amen. - "My bill is not anti-anyone. 131 00:05:23,615 --> 00:05:25,450 "It simply helps protect those who have 132 00:05:25,492 --> 00:05:26,868 "strong religious beliefs 133 00:05:26,951 --> 00:05:29,704 with moral opposition to gay marriage." 134 00:05:29,788 --> 00:05:32,457 - It would be nice if there wasn't so many 135 00:05:32,499 --> 00:05:35,001 hard lines drawn in the sand 136 00:05:35,085 --> 00:05:37,712 between religion and queer people. 137 00:05:37,796 --> 00:05:39,506 - Yeah, I came up in the church. 138 00:05:39,589 --> 00:05:40,799 My mother was a minister. 139 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:44,803 As I started getting into my sexuality, 140 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:47,722 and once I started realizing that I was being ostracized 141 00:05:47,806 --> 00:05:50,475 and being told that I was doomed to hell, 142 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:51,935 it changed my perspective, 143 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:55,563 and I was like, this is not the God that I love. 144 00:05:55,647 --> 00:05:56,773 - Mm. 145 00:05:56,815 --> 00:06:00,944 - It's so wild to me, the, like, hypocrisy of it all, 146 00:06:00,985 --> 00:06:04,739 the close-minded of it all. 147 00:06:04,823 --> 00:06:07,325 - Every single homosexual in our country, 148 00:06:07,367 --> 00:06:09,327 they should be lined up against the wall 149 00:06:09,411 --> 00:06:10,662 and shot in the back of the head. 150 00:06:10,704 --> 00:06:12,497 - That's right! - That's what God teaches. 151 00:06:12,580 --> 00:06:17,002 - Weaponizing religion to fuel hate, 152 00:06:17,085 --> 00:06:18,378 it's really dangerous. 153 00:06:18,461 --> 00:06:20,463 - We're doing a drag show. Would you like to come? 154 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:22,841 - Drag show. 155 00:06:22,882 --> 00:06:24,009 - Wanted to invite you all out. - Thank you. 156 00:06:26,136 --> 00:06:27,178 - Scrapbooking? 157 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:28,513 - Damn. 158 00:06:28,596 --> 00:06:31,516 - Oklahoma is an incredibly diverse place, 159 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:34,185 and it has a troubled history too. 160 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,104 Black Wall Street. 161 00:06:36,187 --> 00:06:40,567 - This is a place where Black entrepreneurs were thriving, 162 00:06:40,650 --> 00:06:43,570 and the whole Greenwood massacre happened here. 163 00:06:43,653 --> 00:06:47,032 - The Greenwood district was burned to the ground 164 00:06:47,115 --> 00:06:48,366 by white supremacists. 165 00:06:48,450 --> 00:06:50,076 - Do you feel like a lot of people remember 166 00:06:50,159 --> 00:06:52,245 what happened in the '20s here? 167 00:06:52,328 --> 00:06:54,039 - There are people that live here 168 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,416 that have no clue because it's been hidden for so long. 169 00:06:56,499 --> 00:06:58,710 - There were so many rich people of color, 170 00:06:58,793 --> 00:07:00,378 and then they just destroyed them all. 171 00:07:00,462 --> 00:07:02,547 - Well, one thing about it, we are resilient. 172 00:07:02,630 --> 00:07:04,007 You can't keep us down, so... 173 00:07:04,049 --> 00:07:06,343 - I mean, they can try, but, you know, we still rebuild. 174 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:07,552 We still do our thing. 175 00:07:07,594 --> 00:07:09,179 - The Greenwood massacre happened 176 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:12,682 over a hundred years ago, and... 177 00:07:12,724 --> 00:07:15,727 it's still impacting the community right now. 178 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:20,148 - The oppression of people for being different 179 00:07:20,231 --> 00:07:23,735 is all over this state. 180 00:07:23,818 --> 00:07:27,113 And it feels like the backlash against trans people, 181 00:07:27,197 --> 00:07:31,910 against queer people is engaging with those themes 182 00:07:31,993 --> 00:07:33,078 all over again. 183 00:07:33,161 --> 00:07:36,081 [dramatic music] 184 00:07:36,164 --> 00:07:43,171 ♪ ♪ 185 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:44,631 [glass shatters] 186 00:07:44,714 --> 00:07:46,424 - Vandals hit a Tulsa doughnut shop 187 00:07:46,508 --> 00:07:48,301 after the store hosted an event 188 00:07:48,385 --> 00:07:49,928 involving drag queens. 189 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:51,888 - You can see the man hang up a letter. 190 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:54,641 - Investigators say that paper referenced Bible verses 191 00:07:54,724 --> 00:07:57,352 and had anti-gay statements on it. 192 00:07:57,435 --> 00:07:58,812 [siren wailing] 193 00:07:58,895 --> 00:08:01,189 ♪ ♪ 194 00:08:03,024 --> 00:08:05,110 - The evidence is right below you. 195 00:08:05,193 --> 00:08:06,653 - Oh, my God. - What? 196 00:08:06,736 --> 00:08:08,655 - Yeah, that's where it landed. 197 00:08:08,738 --> 00:08:10,115 - This is unsafe, 'cause this is her business. 198 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:12,659 - Every little sound scares me and stuff, so-- 199 00:08:12,742 --> 00:08:14,077 it was nerve-racking. 200 00:08:14,119 --> 00:08:15,286 - So sad. 201 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:16,705 It was just a fun event. 202 00:08:16,746 --> 00:08:17,664 - Yeah. 203 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:19,457 - Who doesn't love drag queens and doughnuts? 204 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:20,667 - You know, the queens that I had, 205 00:08:20,750 --> 00:08:22,043 they went into hiding for a couple months. 206 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:23,795 It was really bad. 207 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:26,256 I've never experienced hate like that in my entire life. 208 00:08:26,297 --> 00:08:27,674 - Y'all are amazing. 209 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:30,260 - You are surviving and that these doughnuts are real. 210 00:08:30,301 --> 00:08:31,845 - Should we get some doughnuts? - They smell so good. 211 00:08:31,928 --> 00:08:33,763 - Can we get ourselves some delicious doughnuts? 212 00:08:33,804 --> 00:08:35,306 - Yeah, do you want some? There you go. 213 00:08:35,347 --> 00:08:36,390 - These are gonna be good. 214 00:08:36,474 --> 00:08:37,808 - Visibility is everything. 215 00:08:37,892 --> 00:08:39,894 We have to pop up. We have to show up. 216 00:08:39,977 --> 00:08:43,648 We have to be in these places that are being challenged. 217 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:44,607 - Thank you. - Thank you. 218 00:08:44,649 --> 00:08:46,151 - Thank you so much. 219 00:08:46,234 --> 00:08:47,652 We're gonna be loud and proud. 220 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:49,612 We're gonna be doing lots of shows. 221 00:08:49,654 --> 00:08:51,656 There's no way we're leaving 222 00:08:51,740 --> 00:08:54,993 without them getting some full drag, honey. 223 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:58,371 ♪ ♪ 224 00:08:58,455 --> 00:09:00,165 [upbeat electronic music] 225 00:09:00,206 --> 00:09:02,167 - ♪ Hey, hey ♪ 226 00:09:02,250 --> 00:09:03,168 ♪ Skrr ♪ 227 00:09:03,251 --> 00:09:06,171 [alarm ringing] 228 00:09:06,254 --> 00:09:09,549 - [groans] 229 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:12,093 [country rock music] 230 00:09:12,177 --> 00:09:14,763 - My name is Kris Sipe, 231 00:09:14,846 --> 00:09:17,515 and I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma. 232 00:09:17,599 --> 00:09:20,977 I like my hunting stuff, my fishing stuff. 233 00:09:21,019 --> 00:09:22,312 Just a normal guy. 234 00:09:22,354 --> 00:09:25,565 ♪ ♪ 235 00:09:25,648 --> 00:09:26,983 I have a gay son. 236 00:09:27,025 --> 00:09:30,695 When he came out, I said, I support you, son. 237 00:09:30,779 --> 00:09:33,281 And I made a video about it. 238 00:09:33,365 --> 00:09:35,617 Want y'all to meet my son, Lane. 239 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:37,494 You know, as a father, I learned a lot of things. 240 00:09:37,535 --> 00:09:38,787 One thing I learned is, 241 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:41,414 I cannot tell my kid who to love. 242 00:09:41,498 --> 00:09:44,709 If my child is gay, that's OK. 243 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:46,753 I was just being a dad. 244 00:09:46,836 --> 00:09:48,505 [upbeat percussive music] 245 00:09:48,546 --> 00:09:49,714 - Hey, bitch. Hey, boo. - Hi. Hi. 246 00:09:49,798 --> 00:09:51,174 - I recognize you from TikTok. 247 00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:52,258 - From TikTok? - Yes. 248 00:09:52,342 --> 00:09:53,843 - Oh, my God. - You've come up 249 00:09:53,885 --> 00:09:55,804 on my For You page all the time. 250 00:09:55,887 --> 00:09:57,847 And I saw your dad had viral TikTok. 251 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,224 - Oh, yeah. - Dad hug. 252 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:00,684 - Oh, my G--oh! 253 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:02,560 I want a dad hug. - Yes. 254 00:10:02,644 --> 00:10:04,312 - I'll tell you what I do. I give the hug. 255 00:10:04,396 --> 00:10:05,230 - Uh-huh. 256 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:07,399 - And I say, you been checking your oil? 257 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,025 You got change in your pocket? 258 00:10:09,067 --> 00:10:11,778 - Oh, my God. No, I don't. Empty. 259 00:10:11,861 --> 00:10:12,987 - You're a dad. - I'm a dad. 260 00:10:13,071 --> 00:10:14,572 I have a gay son who's 22 years old. 261 00:10:14,656 --> 00:10:16,116 - When did he come out to you? 262 00:10:16,199 --> 00:10:18,076 - 15. - Wow. 263 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:19,285 - Well-- 264 00:10:19,369 --> 00:10:21,871 - It's amazing you made him comfortable enough to do that. 265 00:10:21,913 --> 00:10:23,540 - I supported my son 100%. 266 00:10:23,581 --> 00:10:25,291 I didn't say nothing to him... - Mm-hmm. 267 00:10:25,375 --> 00:10:26,918 - 'Cause I seen too many stories 268 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,336 of people pushing their kids away. 269 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:30,255 - Yeah. - And-- 270 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:33,925 [somber music] 271 00:10:34,009 --> 00:10:35,593 - I get it. 272 00:10:35,677 --> 00:10:37,137 Well, hey, we don't got to cry yet. 273 00:10:37,220 --> 00:10:39,097 - No, not yet. 274 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:41,933 My son was 12, and I knew he was gay. 275 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,561 If he'd have told me he was straight, I'd have said, no. 276 00:10:44,602 --> 00:10:45,770 - You're not doing that. - We're dating men. 277 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:47,522 - We're dating men. 278 00:10:47,605 --> 00:10:49,232 - I didn't know any gay people. - Wow. 279 00:10:49,274 --> 00:10:51,443 - I went to a gay bar and tried to find out 280 00:10:51,526 --> 00:10:52,777 about the community. 281 00:10:52,861 --> 00:10:56,448 And I found out that it was fucking just like me. 282 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:57,699 And every time I'd ask them a question, 283 00:10:57,782 --> 00:11:00,410 they'd, like, tear up, and I was like, 284 00:11:00,452 --> 00:11:02,620 OK, maybe I'm doing something here. 285 00:11:02,704 --> 00:11:04,539 My message about TikToks-- 286 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:07,125 love your children how they are, 287 00:11:07,167 --> 00:11:09,002 and that was my main motivation. 288 00:11:09,085 --> 00:11:12,339 I didn't really know the impact that it was making on people. 289 00:11:12,422 --> 00:11:13,882 Well, they're protesting. 290 00:11:13,965 --> 00:11:15,884 I kind of shook things up a little bit. 291 00:11:15,967 --> 00:11:17,218 [laughs] 292 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:18,470 Wanting us all to repent. 293 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:20,722 We give dad hugs. 294 00:11:20,805 --> 00:11:22,098 Got a bunch of followers from that, 295 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:25,435 and it's like, the path just went right in front of me 296 00:11:25,477 --> 00:11:27,145 and I just walked down the damn thing. 297 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:28,229 - I love it. 298 00:11:28,313 --> 00:11:29,773 Obsessed with you-- I'm obsessed with you. 299 00:11:29,814 --> 00:11:30,982 - I'm loud, and I'm proud. - Yeah. 300 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:32,484 - I ain't gay, but I'm proud as hell. 301 00:11:32,567 --> 00:11:34,277 - Yeah. I love that. 302 00:11:34,319 --> 00:11:35,487 So would you ever do drag? 303 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:37,405 - Yes. - 100%? 304 00:11:37,489 --> 00:11:38,615 - 100%, I'd do it right now. 305 00:11:38,656 --> 00:11:41,159 - Would you be down if we just go inside on the dance floor 306 00:11:41,242 --> 00:11:43,828 and just kind of see what you got a little bit? 307 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:45,246 Would you be down? - Yeah. 308 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:46,831 [dance music] 309 00:11:46,915 --> 00:11:49,250 - Whenever I perform, I like to dance. 310 00:11:49,334 --> 00:11:51,127 I like to be very sexy. 311 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:52,462 Can you do these things? 312 00:11:52,504 --> 00:11:53,755 - I can rip this shit off right now. 313 00:11:53,838 --> 00:11:55,507 - Oh! - OK! 314 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:58,426 - ♪ Slay, play ♪ 315 00:11:58,510 --> 00:12:00,553 - Oh, so horny, so sexual. 316 00:12:00,637 --> 00:12:03,223 - I am so here for this. 317 00:12:03,306 --> 00:12:05,392 - Yes. Yes. - What are you holding? 318 00:12:05,475 --> 00:12:06,768 - What are you holding, a purse? 319 00:12:06,851 --> 00:12:08,144 - I don't know. - Was that a purse? 320 00:12:08,186 --> 00:12:09,646 - I just seen that shit up there, I don't know. 321 00:12:09,688 --> 00:12:12,023 - Oh! - Yes. 322 00:12:12,065 --> 00:12:14,609 It's, like, arms up, like, down your head. 323 00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:15,985 Yes. Work. 324 00:12:16,027 --> 00:12:17,529 - Yes, baby! - Yes. Yes. 325 00:12:17,570 --> 00:12:18,738 Yes. Yeah. 326 00:12:18,822 --> 00:12:20,073 Over the shoulder to the camera. 327 00:12:20,156 --> 00:12:21,491 Make it strong. Beyoncé. Bam. 328 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:22,909 Yes. 329 00:12:22,992 --> 00:12:24,786 Wow. 330 00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:27,330 Wow. [laughter] 331 00:12:27,372 --> 00:12:28,832 Oh, my God, you're amazing. 332 00:12:28,873 --> 00:12:32,252 - Yes, queen. 333 00:12:32,335 --> 00:12:35,213 [somber music] 334 00:12:35,296 --> 00:12:42,262 ♪ ♪ 335 00:12:52,856 --> 00:12:54,065 [door clicks open] 336 00:12:54,149 --> 00:12:57,027 - Hello. - Hi. Oh, my gosh. 337 00:12:57,068 --> 00:12:58,570 Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 338 00:12:58,653 --> 00:12:59,988 - I'm sitting here, having a cocktail. 339 00:13:00,071 --> 00:13:01,197 Would you like one? - Sure. 340 00:13:01,239 --> 00:13:02,907 Let's dive right in. - OK, OK, yeah. 341 00:13:02,991 --> 00:13:04,159 This is my boyfriend, Clifton. 342 00:13:04,242 --> 00:13:05,702 - Nice to meet you. - Clifton, Sasha. 343 00:13:05,744 --> 00:13:07,245 - This is my assistant, Diana. - Hi, I'm Diana. 344 00:13:07,328 --> 00:13:08,997 - Hi, Diana. 345 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,290 Someone here is a painter. 346 00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:12,000 Oh, my God, it's signed with your name. 347 00:13:12,042 --> 00:13:13,043 - Yeah. 348 00:13:13,084 --> 00:13:14,669 - He's a really wonderful artist. 349 00:13:14,753 --> 00:13:15,962 - It's incredible. 350 00:13:16,046 --> 00:13:17,589 - Yeah, I'll prop him up since he won't do it. 351 00:13:17,672 --> 00:13:19,591 I'm his assistant. [laughs] 352 00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:21,551 - I'm a real estate broker. 353 00:13:21,593 --> 00:13:22,927 She is my assistant in real estate. 354 00:13:22,969 --> 00:13:25,055 But also, we were best friends 355 00:13:25,096 --> 00:13:27,015 before she started working for me. 356 00:13:27,098 --> 00:13:29,601 She's definitely part of my chosen family. 357 00:13:29,684 --> 00:13:32,479 I don't have very good parents at all. 358 00:13:32,562 --> 00:13:34,773 I'm very close to my siblings. 359 00:13:34,814 --> 00:13:37,984 Our parents are just not-- yeah. 360 00:13:38,068 --> 00:13:41,321 - Were you able to tell them that you were gay? 361 00:13:41,404 --> 00:13:42,489 - Eventually. 362 00:13:42,572 --> 00:13:44,032 I'm from a town-- a little suburb 363 00:13:44,115 --> 00:13:45,575 in Oklahoma City called Bethany. 364 00:13:45,617 --> 00:13:46,534 - Mm-hmm. 365 00:13:46,618 --> 00:13:48,787 - And it's, like, run by the Nazarene Church, 366 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:50,705 the whole town is, and so-- - OK. 367 00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:52,457 Which is a pretty conservative church, right? 368 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:53,625 - Yes, ma'am. 369 00:13:53,708 --> 00:13:54,876 [laughs] Yes. 370 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:56,336 Yeah, one might say, yeah. 371 00:13:56,419 --> 00:14:00,090 The Nazarene Church really instills in you 372 00:14:00,131 --> 00:14:06,137 that if you are not basically a white heterosexual person 373 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:08,723 that you are going to burn in hell for all eternity. 374 00:14:08,765 --> 00:14:12,644 I was struggling so hard with admitting to myself 375 00:14:12,686 --> 00:14:13,978 that I was gay, 376 00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:16,106 admitting to anyone else that I was gay. 377 00:14:16,147 --> 00:14:16,981 - Yeah. 378 00:14:17,065 --> 00:14:20,151 I heard the story about the horrible attack 379 00:14:20,193 --> 00:14:22,320 that you experienced a few years ago. 380 00:14:22,362 --> 00:14:23,988 It's heartbreaking. 381 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:27,033 Do you carry that with you still? 382 00:14:27,117 --> 00:14:29,869 - I did sue those people. 383 00:14:29,953 --> 00:14:31,329 - You sued the people who attacked you? 384 00:14:31,413 --> 00:14:33,665 - Mm-hmm, yeah, and unfortunately, 385 00:14:33,707 --> 00:14:36,001 I have to respond 386 00:14:36,084 --> 00:14:39,838 that it was resolved to both parties' 387 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,923 mutual satisfaction. 388 00:14:42,007 --> 00:14:45,343 - There was four people that brutally attacked him 389 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:49,264 and were kicking him, broke teeth, broke ribs. 390 00:14:49,347 --> 00:14:51,891 They were yelling homophobic slurs. 391 00:14:51,975 --> 00:14:52,851 He was unconscious. 392 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,353 He had to go to the hospital multiple times 393 00:14:55,437 --> 00:14:56,521 over the next few weeks. 394 00:14:56,604 --> 00:15:00,859 The settlement was nothing that was life-changing at all. 395 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,986 It was a matter of his peace of mind. 396 00:15:03,028 --> 00:15:07,032 He talks to me often about remembering 397 00:15:07,073 --> 00:15:09,576 what it felt like to be punched and beaten 398 00:15:09,659 --> 00:15:11,619 while he lay on the ground. 399 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:13,955 I feel like he pulled back into himself a lot. 400 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:15,874 It's just heartbreaking. 401 00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:18,710 - And what was the institutional response 402 00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:20,420 from police or the hospital? 403 00:15:20,503 --> 00:15:22,422 - Misdemeanor, didn't really happen, 404 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:24,049 not that serious. 405 00:15:24,132 --> 00:15:26,009 - It's a familiar story. 406 00:15:26,051 --> 00:15:28,053 Like, we hear about anti-gay, 407 00:15:28,094 --> 00:15:30,263 anti-trans attacks all the time. 408 00:15:30,347 --> 00:15:33,933 But to really see those photos of his beaten face, 409 00:15:34,017 --> 00:15:37,062 to hear about how he was left unconscious 410 00:15:37,103 --> 00:15:39,064 is really, really tough. 411 00:15:39,105 --> 00:15:41,274 I wonder if there will be a day where 412 00:15:41,358 --> 00:15:45,070 we can feel safe, not afraid. 413 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:49,574 So what does the prospect of getting into drag 414 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:51,659 here in Oklahoma mean to you? 415 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:53,536 - I'm excited and scared. 416 00:15:53,578 --> 00:15:55,246 I'm definitely gonna need a few pep talks 417 00:15:55,330 --> 00:15:57,165 before I'm actually, you know, up onstage. 418 00:15:57,248 --> 00:15:58,833 - I got you. I got you. You're in good hands. 419 00:15:58,917 --> 00:16:00,210 - [groans] 420 00:16:00,251 --> 00:16:04,422 I feel like when my incident happened, 421 00:16:04,506 --> 00:16:08,176 it fractured my life. 422 00:16:08,259 --> 00:16:12,597 There was who I was before, and there's who I am after. 423 00:16:12,681 --> 00:16:14,766 So I'm still dealing with the effects of it. 424 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:17,394 I'll deal with the effects of it for the rest of my life. 425 00:16:17,435 --> 00:16:22,399 - Once you are focused on the job of drag, 426 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,692 as soon as you're out there, you're like, 427 00:16:23,775 --> 00:16:24,776 I have a story to tell. 428 00:16:24,859 --> 00:16:28,113 And you just focus on that and step out of your nerves, 429 00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:30,907 and it truly is so empowering. 430 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:33,284 I don't expect a night of drag 431 00:16:33,326 --> 00:16:36,162 to turn everything around for him, 432 00:16:36,246 --> 00:16:39,958 and I have no idea what Christian is gonna make 433 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,960 of his drag alter ego. 434 00:16:42,043 --> 00:16:45,588 But my hope is that our drag show 435 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:48,508 just can be a space where he can talk about it. 436 00:16:48,591 --> 00:16:52,846 ♪ ♪ 437 00:16:52,929 --> 00:16:55,807 [singers vocalizing] 438 00:16:55,849 --> 00:16:58,893 ♪ ♪ 439 00:16:58,977 --> 00:17:00,812 - [ululating] 440 00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:03,189 [plucky music] 441 00:17:03,273 --> 00:17:04,898 Welcome to my home. 442 00:17:04,983 --> 00:17:06,776 [laughs] 443 00:17:06,818 --> 00:17:09,237 My name is 444 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:15,993 John Waako Hawk Ferris Co-Cke'. 445 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:17,203 [smooching] 446 00:17:17,287 --> 00:17:20,582 I live in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it's home. 447 00:17:20,665 --> 00:17:22,334 It's home. 448 00:17:22,375 --> 00:17:24,586 These are my babies, and I just love them. 449 00:17:24,669 --> 00:17:26,171 Can you say hello? 450 00:17:26,253 --> 00:17:30,008 [smooching] She talks to me a lot. 451 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:31,134 You know, when you live by yourself, 452 00:17:31,176 --> 00:17:32,677 it's just kind of fun. 453 00:17:32,761 --> 00:17:35,096 [light music] 454 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:38,600 I am a government member 455 00:17:38,683 --> 00:17:41,394 of the Osages and the Peoria tribes. 456 00:17:41,478 --> 00:17:46,316 I identify as transgender two-spirit. 457 00:17:46,358 --> 00:17:51,196 I identify as he, she, they/them. 458 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:55,367 I know the male world, and I know the female world. 459 00:17:55,408 --> 00:17:58,078 Getting in touch with my culture and my native way, 460 00:17:58,161 --> 00:17:59,329 it saved me. 461 00:17:59,412 --> 00:18:00,413 It saved me. 462 00:18:00,497 --> 00:18:02,123 It gave me a tool 463 00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:04,376 to be free. 464 00:18:04,459 --> 00:18:06,795 ♪ ♪ 465 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,715 - O75. 466 00:18:10,757 --> 00:18:12,842 O75. 467 00:18:12,884 --> 00:18:15,720 [indistinct chatter] 468 00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:17,555 I16. 469 00:18:17,597 --> 00:18:19,724 I16. 470 00:18:21,351 --> 00:18:23,478 N39. 471 00:18:24,688 --> 00:18:25,730 - Oh, my God. 472 00:18:25,814 --> 00:18:27,816 Hello. - Oh, gracious. 473 00:18:27,899 --> 00:18:29,025 - Bingo! - All right, let's see. 474 00:18:29,067 --> 00:18:31,152 - How are you, beautiful? 475 00:18:32,737 --> 00:18:34,322 Look at you. Oh, my God. 476 00:18:34,406 --> 00:18:36,408 - We need the full introduction. 477 00:18:36,449 --> 00:18:39,411 - My drag name is Splenda Lee Delight. 478 00:18:39,494 --> 00:18:42,247 - You have a drag name already? We just sat down for bingo. 479 00:18:42,288 --> 00:18:44,249 - All right, are y'all ready to see some drag? 480 00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:45,917 [cheers and applause] 481 00:18:46,001 --> 00:18:47,919 Oh, I love the energy. 482 00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:49,421 [plucky music] 483 00:18:49,504 --> 00:18:51,006 - I have to ask you a question. 484 00:18:51,089 --> 00:18:53,008 Are you the glam team? 485 00:18:53,091 --> 00:18:55,719 - Huh? - Are you the glam? 486 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,595 - We're the drag queens. 487 00:19:00,724 --> 00:19:03,977 ♪ ♪ 488 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:06,062 I'm a jokester. - Oh, my God. 489 00:19:06,104 --> 00:19:08,106 ♪ ♪ 490 00:19:08,148 --> 00:19:09,691 - Let me just share with you. 491 00:19:09,774 --> 00:19:12,193 1955, I was born. 492 00:19:12,277 --> 00:19:15,488 I came out in 1976. 493 00:19:15,572 --> 00:19:17,198 I was going to University of Oklahoma. 494 00:19:17,282 --> 00:19:20,118 I have a penis, and I love it. 495 00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:22,579 - I do too. - We've all been there. 496 00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:24,497 [laughter] 497 00:19:24,581 --> 00:19:26,791 - I've never met somebody like John. 498 00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:29,127 [cheers and applause] 499 00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:32,297 John is the most flamboyant, effervescent, 500 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:34,507 confident, loud person 501 00:19:34,591 --> 00:19:36,384 that I've ever met in my whole life, 502 00:19:36,468 --> 00:19:37,635 so much that they won't stop talking. 503 00:19:37,719 --> 00:19:39,804 - This is Southern. This is moonshine. 504 00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:41,014 No, I'm just kidding. 505 00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:42,932 - I thought I was bad. 506 00:19:42,974 --> 00:19:45,393 - Oh, God. 507 00:19:45,477 --> 00:19:46,436 OK. 508 00:19:46,478 --> 00:19:48,355 - Can you tell us what is going on here and how-- 509 00:19:48,438 --> 00:19:49,564 - Oh, gee. - You know, what it's like 510 00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:51,900 to be gay here, a trans person, queer person? 511 00:19:51,983 --> 00:19:55,028 - There's nothing in the rural area for gay people, nothing. 512 00:19:55,111 --> 00:19:56,237 - At all. 513 00:19:56,321 --> 00:19:57,739 - That's what I'm saying, baby. 514 00:19:57,822 --> 00:19:59,324 - I have a question for you. - Go, go, go, go, go, go. 515 00:19:59,366 --> 00:20:00,492 - In the last couple years, I've been trying 516 00:20:00,533 --> 00:20:02,494 to educate myself on queer history 517 00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:04,329 and drag history, and it's been really moving, 518 00:20:04,371 --> 00:20:07,499 learning about how many Indigenous nations 519 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:10,168 celebrated queer and trans people 520 00:20:10,251 --> 00:20:13,171 and saw us as, it's like a spiritual blessing. 521 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:15,382 - The tribe culturally, years ago, 522 00:20:15,465 --> 00:20:17,008 embraced the two-spirit. 523 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,593 They loved us. 524 00:20:18,677 --> 00:20:19,719 They wanted us. 525 00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:23,306 Two-spirit nowadays, they're condemning it. 526 00:20:23,348 --> 00:20:24,933 The church has taken over the tribes. 527 00:20:25,016 --> 00:20:26,017 - Wow. 528 00:20:26,101 --> 00:20:27,519 - Our tribes won't even bring us in. 529 00:20:27,602 --> 00:20:28,895 - Really? - The tribes won't. 530 00:20:28,978 --> 00:20:30,105 - I'm honestly shocked 531 00:20:30,188 --> 00:20:32,607 the two-spirit community was celebrated 532 00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:34,567 and now, because of a religion, 533 00:20:34,651 --> 00:20:36,569 it's like they don't exist anymore. 534 00:20:36,653 --> 00:20:37,779 You can't just silence something 535 00:20:37,821 --> 00:20:39,406 that you used to believe in. 536 00:20:39,489 --> 00:20:42,534 - It is this conservative wave that's coming through. 537 00:20:42,617 --> 00:20:45,328 - It started when-- you know what happened, 538 00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:47,247 the orange turd. - Mm-hmm. 539 00:20:47,330 --> 00:20:50,583 - When he won, they called me up here 540 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:52,794 at the transgender support group. 541 00:20:52,877 --> 00:20:54,170 People were crying. 542 00:20:54,212 --> 00:20:55,672 People were freaking out. 543 00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:57,757 People were--they thought it was the end. 544 00:20:57,841 --> 00:20:58,675 - Yeah. 545 00:20:58,717 --> 00:21:00,051 - They thought they were gonna be killed. 546 00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:01,886 - It's scary. - It's scary as hell! 547 00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:04,264 We've been so splintered, and that's something 548 00:21:04,347 --> 00:21:06,474 I want to happen in our community 549 00:21:06,558 --> 00:21:08,143 is bring people together. 550 00:21:08,226 --> 00:21:09,269 - It's the only way it's gonna work. 551 00:21:09,352 --> 00:21:10,645 - The only way, baby. - It's the only way. 552 00:21:10,729 --> 00:21:12,188 - I can't do it by myself. I tried. 553 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:14,190 - It's the only way. - But it nearly killed me. 554 00:21:14,274 --> 00:21:17,402 I need people like you, you, you, everybody here. 555 00:21:17,444 --> 00:21:19,571 - John just feels like a special person. 556 00:21:19,654 --> 00:21:21,156 I'm curious about John's life, 557 00:21:21,239 --> 00:21:24,034 and there's a lot to get to know here. 558 00:21:24,075 --> 00:21:26,286 - I can't tell you how fun I am, 559 00:21:26,369 --> 00:21:27,412 and I think we're gonna go out-- 560 00:21:27,495 --> 00:21:28,788 - We know how fun you are. - Well-- 561 00:21:28,872 --> 00:21:30,248 - I want you to know. - Oh, thanks. 562 00:21:30,331 --> 00:21:31,750 - We know. 563 00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:32,917 You're fascinating. 564 00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:33,960 I love your energy. 565 00:21:34,044 --> 00:21:35,253 You're chaotic. 566 00:21:35,337 --> 00:21:37,130 John could be a really cool drag kid, 567 00:21:37,213 --> 00:21:40,383 and it's gonna be very challenging. 568 00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:42,594 So wish me luck. [chuckles] 569 00:21:42,677 --> 00:21:46,181 - So I got into Julia Child's cookbook. 570 00:21:46,264 --> 00:21:48,058 Oh, you're gonna love this story. 571 00:21:50,018 --> 00:21:51,811 [twangy music] 572 00:21:51,895 --> 00:21:53,897 - Drag has become very political, 573 00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:56,149 and I have a very strong faith. 574 00:21:56,232 --> 00:21:59,944 And I'm at the crossroads of all three. 575 00:22:00,028 --> 00:22:01,279 - Hello. 576 00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:02,447 - Hi. - Hi. 577 00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:04,616 - How are you? I'm Priyanka. 578 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:06,618 - Charity. - Nice to meet you, Charity. 579 00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:08,578 - I want to sit down with someone who's in politics 580 00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:11,873 who uses their religious beliefs 581 00:22:11,956 --> 00:22:14,459 to fuel or guide them 582 00:22:14,501 --> 00:22:16,086 through their political platform, 583 00:22:16,127 --> 00:22:18,254 and I want to understand why. 584 00:22:18,296 --> 00:22:20,548 ♪ ♪ 585 00:22:20,632 --> 00:22:21,675 - So we've heard just a little bit 586 00:22:21,758 --> 00:22:23,134 about what you do here in Tulsa. 587 00:22:23,176 --> 00:22:25,136 Can you give us the highlights? 588 00:22:25,178 --> 00:22:26,596 - I'm a Black Republican, 589 00:22:26,638 --> 00:22:28,515 and I am on the party leadership 590 00:22:28,598 --> 00:22:30,183 here in Tulsa County. 591 00:22:30,266 --> 00:22:33,019 So I focus in political consulting, 592 00:22:33,103 --> 00:22:35,355 so I help people run for office. 593 00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:37,732 So I'm usually the brains behind a campaign. 594 00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:39,484 And as a Christian, of course, 595 00:22:39,567 --> 00:22:42,904 I'm always going to advocate that our laws 596 00:22:42,987 --> 00:22:46,366 are based in Christianity. 597 00:22:46,449 --> 00:22:48,493 Here in Tulsa, you guys have come 598 00:22:48,535 --> 00:22:54,541 into a very volatile time period. 599 00:22:54,624 --> 00:22:57,669 One of the things that we have been looking at 600 00:22:57,711 --> 00:23:04,467 is education and this topic of transgender students 601 00:23:04,509 --> 00:23:08,304 and bathrooms and even the pronouns. 602 00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:10,140 - Can I press you for-- yeah, for your thoughts 603 00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:12,434 about the opposition to health care 604 00:23:12,517 --> 00:23:14,978 for young trans people? 605 00:23:15,020 --> 00:23:21,067 - I think where the issue comes in is the sex changes, 606 00:23:21,151 --> 00:23:25,363 going in and claiming to change their gender, 607 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:26,573 because they're not. 608 00:23:26,656 --> 00:23:30,618 You're not actually changing-- their gender's not changing. 609 00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:34,539 If it's a boy, they're still going to be a male by DNA. 610 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:36,416 You can't change the DNA. 611 00:23:36,499 --> 00:23:39,085 And I do think that those surgeries like that 612 00:23:39,169 --> 00:23:41,880 should be reserved for an adult, 613 00:23:41,963 --> 00:23:44,883 but I don't think that parents should be making-- 614 00:23:44,966 --> 00:23:50,472 choosing to say, I want my little girl to be a boy, 615 00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:53,058 and doing surgeries for that. 616 00:23:53,141 --> 00:23:54,976 - Well, it's never that. I can promise you that. 617 00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:57,896 There are different kinds of hormone blockers, 618 00:23:57,937 --> 00:23:59,939 the kinds that they already prescribe 619 00:24:00,023 --> 00:24:01,733 to many cisgender kids, 620 00:24:01,775 --> 00:24:04,986 that help people not feel suicidal 621 00:24:05,070 --> 00:24:10,367 about their bodies as they go through adolescence. 622 00:24:10,408 --> 00:24:13,119 I mean, the suicide rates among young trans people 623 00:24:13,203 --> 00:24:17,624 are so high because they don't want to live in the body 624 00:24:17,707 --> 00:24:20,210 in the world as they know it. 625 00:24:20,251 --> 00:24:21,920 And this helps them. 626 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:25,340 - I just don't agree with it. 627 00:24:25,423 --> 00:24:27,425 - People in the party are really-- 628 00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:29,219 it's like, all they care about 629 00:24:29,302 --> 00:24:31,471 is taking away rights from trans people 630 00:24:31,554 --> 00:24:33,765 and drag queens, which is, like, why? 631 00:24:33,807 --> 00:24:36,059 - Yeah. - Why do you think? 632 00:24:36,142 --> 00:24:38,186 - There's videos of drag shows. 633 00:24:38,269 --> 00:24:39,437 There are children present. 634 00:24:39,521 --> 00:24:41,773 Private parts are being shown. 635 00:24:41,815 --> 00:24:44,609 They're encouraging sexual type of activity 636 00:24:44,693 --> 00:24:45,777 in front of children. 637 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:48,488 If there is going to be a drag show, 638 00:24:48,571 --> 00:24:50,573 it should be adult only. 639 00:24:50,615 --> 00:24:52,575 - What makes it adult only? 640 00:24:52,617 --> 00:24:56,454 - Well, I've never been to a drag show, so I don't know. 641 00:24:56,538 --> 00:24:58,164 - This is really-- - We can tell. 642 00:24:58,248 --> 00:24:59,791 - Yeah. [laughs] 643 00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:02,752 - This is really my argument with the whole thing. 644 00:25:02,794 --> 00:25:04,671 It's the people who have never went to a show. 645 00:25:04,754 --> 00:25:07,716 You have no clue what it entails. 646 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:09,634 It's about celebrating diversity. 647 00:25:09,676 --> 00:25:11,219 It's about owning yourself. 648 00:25:11,302 --> 00:25:12,971 It's about feeling good, 649 00:25:13,013 --> 00:25:15,724 and you carry that over into your day-to-day. 650 00:25:15,807 --> 00:25:19,102 This is exactly what the problem is. 651 00:25:19,185 --> 00:25:21,187 It's these people and lawmakers 652 00:25:21,271 --> 00:25:25,984 that are pushing these bills that are baseless, 653 00:25:26,026 --> 00:25:28,820 and you have no clue what you're talking about. 654 00:25:28,862 --> 00:25:34,159 And exposing ourselves to children? 655 00:25:35,827 --> 00:25:38,830 Do you know how many pairs of tights drag queens wear? 656 00:25:38,913 --> 00:25:41,958 Do you know how many bras and girdles and corsets? 657 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,672 There is nothing to expose but cotton and polyester blend. 658 00:25:47,714 --> 00:25:50,342 - My take on being gay is that it's a choice. 659 00:25:50,383 --> 00:25:51,801 - Really? 660 00:25:51,843 --> 00:25:54,721 No one would choose to be ostracized. 661 00:25:54,804 --> 00:25:58,933 I struggled so much, listening to my pastor 662 00:25:59,017 --> 00:26:01,269 tell me that I was an abomination 663 00:26:01,353 --> 00:26:04,064 and how much hatred that God had 664 00:26:04,147 --> 00:26:06,107 for people like me. 665 00:26:06,191 --> 00:26:07,817 [dramatic music] 666 00:26:07,859 --> 00:26:10,278 When someone lets you know that you're never 667 00:26:10,362 --> 00:26:12,530 gonna be good enough, you kind of just say, 668 00:26:12,614 --> 00:26:14,532 well, what's the point? 669 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:18,328 That is horrible, because I was that kid. 670 00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:21,498 I was that kid. 671 00:26:21,539 --> 00:26:23,792 And no one could help me. 672 00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:25,919 I couldn't tell anybody. 673 00:26:26,002 --> 00:26:31,049 ♪ ♪ 674 00:26:31,132 --> 00:26:35,053 I left the church because it didn't make sense to me. 675 00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:38,973 Why would this all-knowing, all-loving God 676 00:26:39,057 --> 00:26:42,185 hate us, just specifically just us? 677 00:26:42,227 --> 00:26:44,896 ♪ ♪ 678 00:26:44,938 --> 00:26:46,731 And I knew I was a good person, 679 00:26:46,815 --> 00:26:49,317 and I knew I was trying to live my life right. 680 00:26:49,401 --> 00:26:51,486 ♪ ♪ 681 00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:53,780 - You know, you follow your government. 682 00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:55,865 But of course, there are some caveats to that. 683 00:26:55,907 --> 00:26:57,033 If I don't agree with it, 684 00:26:57,075 --> 00:26:59,077 then it's my choice at that time to say, 685 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:04,249 I'm going to push to have more people in office 686 00:27:04,290 --> 00:27:07,752 that are going to make laws that I agree with. 687 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:09,838 - By the same token, like, I don't think we want 688 00:27:09,921 --> 00:27:11,923 to be forced to have less rights 689 00:27:11,965 --> 00:27:14,592 just because that's some people's view. 690 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:18,847 Because we can't all agree on what religion says 691 00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:20,765 or what morality should be, 692 00:27:20,849 --> 00:27:22,434 there has to be a separation 693 00:27:22,517 --> 00:27:24,394 between our personal spiritual beliefs 694 00:27:24,436 --> 00:27:26,813 and the laws that are put in place 695 00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:27,856 to represent all of us. 696 00:27:27,939 --> 00:27:29,941 - Thank you so much for chatting with us today. 697 00:27:29,983 --> 00:27:33,486 We would love to extend an invitation to you 698 00:27:33,570 --> 00:27:35,572 to come to our drag show. 699 00:27:35,613 --> 00:27:38,783 I feel so uncomfortable in this situation. 700 00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:43,121 I feel scared for the future by talking to this woman 701 00:27:43,163 --> 00:27:46,624 because this is one Republican that's telling us this, 702 00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:48,543 but this is how they all think. 703 00:27:48,626 --> 00:27:50,045 Having that conversation with Charity 704 00:27:50,128 --> 00:27:51,880 is something that, like, I will remember forever 705 00:27:51,963 --> 00:27:54,966 'cause it bothered me so much. 706 00:27:55,008 --> 00:27:56,468 - Thank you so much. - Yes, yes. 707 00:27:56,551 --> 00:27:57,469 - Thank you. - Bye. 708 00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:59,054 - Bye. 709 00:28:02,098 --> 00:28:03,475 - Oh, wow. 710 00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:08,605 [mellow country music] 711 00:28:08,646 --> 00:28:13,818 ♪ ♪ 712 00:28:13,902 --> 00:28:15,987 - Hi. My name is Carrie. 713 00:28:16,071 --> 00:28:17,447 I'm a documentary producer. 714 00:28:17,489 --> 00:28:19,657 Would it be possible for us to sit down in here 715 00:28:19,699 --> 00:28:21,701 and film a brief conversation? 716 00:28:25,997 --> 00:28:29,417 ♪ ♪ 717 00:28:31,503 --> 00:28:32,921 - Yes. 718 00:28:43,181 --> 00:28:44,182 - OK. 719 00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:47,268 - We've been having a lot of trouble finding 720 00:28:47,352 --> 00:28:50,730 an area around the town that will let us in. 721 00:28:50,814 --> 00:28:52,524 It's unfortunate, though, that no one's-- 722 00:28:56,277 --> 00:28:57,362 - OK. 723 00:29:00,532 --> 00:29:07,497 ♪ ♪ 724 00:29:19,217 --> 00:29:21,136 - We were scouting out this other little town 725 00:29:21,219 --> 00:29:24,139 called Bartlesville, outside of Tulsa. 726 00:29:24,222 --> 00:29:27,475 We had some potential drag kids 727 00:29:27,517 --> 00:29:29,769 that were interested in doing this, 728 00:29:29,853 --> 00:29:32,480 and one by one, they started dropping out. 729 00:29:32,564 --> 00:29:34,190 And upon further investigation, 730 00:29:34,232 --> 00:29:36,526 we just find out they were scared. 731 00:29:36,568 --> 00:29:39,029 Something's going on, and so... 732 00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:42,741 we definitely got to find out why. 733 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:44,075 - Bartlesville, everyone. 734 00:29:44,117 --> 00:29:45,952 - This is it. This is it. - Ooh. 735 00:29:46,036 --> 00:29:47,537 Pretty quiet. - Hello. 736 00:29:47,579 --> 00:29:48,747 - Hello. - Hi there. 737 00:29:48,788 --> 00:29:49,914 - How are you? I'm Priyanka. 738 00:29:49,998 --> 00:29:51,416 - Priyanka, I'm Andy. - Hello. 739 00:29:51,499 --> 00:29:53,209 - After asking around, 740 00:29:53,251 --> 00:29:55,879 we finally get this one journalist 741 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,130 who's willing to talk to us 742 00:29:57,213 --> 00:30:00,759 and give us some tea on Bartlesville. 743 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,595 - Drag shows have really been 744 00:30:03,678 --> 00:30:05,472 a hot-topic issue in Bartlesville. 745 00:30:05,555 --> 00:30:07,265 - Wow. - Yikes. 746 00:30:07,307 --> 00:30:09,726 - Now, when we tried to figure out a place to film, 747 00:30:09,768 --> 00:30:12,562 not a single place would let us film inside 748 00:30:12,604 --> 00:30:16,107 because they thought it would be bad for business. 749 00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:18,943 - We've basically been told that we can't film anywhere. 750 00:30:18,985 --> 00:30:20,111 - Anywhere. - Yeah. 751 00:30:20,153 --> 00:30:22,697 - That's why we're sitting outside on a random-ass bench. 752 00:30:22,781 --> 00:30:24,783 - Picnic table. [laughs] - Yeah. 753 00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:27,744 You got to know that last year's drag performance 754 00:30:27,786 --> 00:30:29,537 caused quite a stir. 755 00:30:29,621 --> 00:30:32,290 - A family-friendly gay Pride event in Bartlesville 756 00:30:32,332 --> 00:30:34,709 got heated at times as protesters tried 757 00:30:34,793 --> 00:30:36,336 to also make their voices heard. 758 00:30:36,419 --> 00:30:38,880 - A crowd gathered behind a barrier 759 00:30:38,963 --> 00:30:41,174 with signs and megaphones, protesting. 760 00:30:41,257 --> 00:30:44,260 - They're exposing these adult subjects 761 00:30:44,302 --> 00:30:45,679 to little children. 762 00:30:45,762 --> 00:30:47,806 - Following the event last September, 763 00:30:47,847 --> 00:30:49,849 a petition began circulating online, 764 00:30:49,933 --> 00:30:51,810 asking the city council to prohibit 765 00:30:51,893 --> 00:30:54,062 adult-oriented activity 766 00:30:54,145 --> 00:30:55,522 from happening in a public area. 767 00:30:55,605 --> 00:30:58,108 [dramatic music] 768 00:30:58,149 --> 00:31:01,820 - The organizers of the event, OKEQ, Oklahomans for Equality, 769 00:31:01,861 --> 00:31:03,655 they felt really blindsided 770 00:31:03,738 --> 00:31:04,823 when the outrage started, for sure. 771 00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:06,032 - Totally. - Mm. 772 00:31:06,116 --> 00:31:07,826 - You know, when I've talked to them, they're very scared. 773 00:31:07,867 --> 00:31:10,078 They're very shell-shocked. 774 00:31:10,161 --> 00:31:11,454 People are very hurt. 775 00:31:11,496 --> 00:31:14,499 - So is there anyone in town 776 00:31:14,582 --> 00:31:18,878 that might be interested in being a drag child? 777 00:31:18,962 --> 00:31:20,880 - You might want to give Randy White a call. 778 00:31:20,964 --> 00:31:22,007 Reach out to him. 779 00:31:22,048 --> 00:31:23,675 - OK. - Tell us about Randy. 780 00:31:23,717 --> 00:31:25,385 - Yeah. - Well--[laughs] 781 00:31:25,468 --> 00:31:26,344 - Who's Randy? 782 00:31:26,386 --> 00:31:27,846 - I only know him by reputation, actually. 783 00:31:27,887 --> 00:31:30,056 - Oh. His reputation. 784 00:31:30,140 --> 00:31:31,307 - He's been outspoken about-- 785 00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:33,393 - He's outspoken, and he has a farm. 786 00:31:33,476 --> 00:31:34,519 - OK. - Yeah. 787 00:31:34,561 --> 00:31:38,857 So you get a little taste of Oklahoma, rural Oklahoma. 788 00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:42,068 - And he came up with one name. 789 00:31:42,152 --> 00:31:46,448 Randy is openly gay and is well-liked by the community, 790 00:31:46,531 --> 00:31:48,616 so this could be our in. 791 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:53,705 ♪ ♪ 792 00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:56,958 [engine revving] 793 00:31:57,042 --> 00:32:00,170 [upbeat music] 794 00:32:00,211 --> 00:32:07,218 ♪ ♪ 795 00:32:09,721 --> 00:32:11,348 - Oh, my God. 796 00:32:11,389 --> 00:32:14,684 - Drag queens are so controversial in Oklahoma. 797 00:32:14,726 --> 00:32:17,228 Maybe it would be more acceptable 798 00:32:17,312 --> 00:32:21,316 if we wore traditionally masculine attire. 799 00:32:21,399 --> 00:32:24,736 But of course, I just can't help but give it 800 00:32:24,819 --> 00:32:25,779 a little drag spin. 801 00:32:25,862 --> 00:32:27,364 ♪ ♪ 802 00:32:27,405 --> 00:32:29,908 - This is a biker bar that we're at. 803 00:32:29,991 --> 00:32:34,120 There's, like, turf wars typically at these bars. 804 00:32:34,204 --> 00:32:36,998 - Coming in, I was like, oh, Lord, here we go. 805 00:32:37,082 --> 00:32:38,249 - Bud Light. 806 00:32:38,333 --> 00:32:40,168 - Bud Light? - Bud Light. 807 00:32:40,251 --> 00:32:43,380 All right, well, cheers. - Cheers. 808 00:32:43,421 --> 00:32:45,840 - This is the butchest thing I've ever done. 809 00:32:45,924 --> 00:32:47,008 - I really thought that we would look 810 00:32:47,092 --> 00:32:48,468 like three butch guys going into a bar, 811 00:32:48,551 --> 00:32:51,638 but I don't think we were fooling anyone. 812 00:32:51,721 --> 00:32:53,098 - Hi there. 813 00:32:53,139 --> 00:32:54,265 - I'm Sasha. What's your name? 814 00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:55,600 - I am Gimpy. Pleasure to meet you. 815 00:32:55,684 --> 00:32:56,768 - Hello. - And you are? 816 00:32:56,810 --> 00:32:58,186 - I'm Priyanka. - Priyanka. 817 00:32:58,269 --> 00:32:59,229 Gimpy. Pleasure to meet you. 818 00:32:59,270 --> 00:33:01,106 And you, big dog? - Latrice. 819 00:33:01,189 --> 00:33:03,108 - Latrice, are you going fucking hunting or what? 820 00:33:03,191 --> 00:33:04,693 - [laughs] - What's your name? 821 00:33:04,776 --> 00:33:06,778 - Chili Dog. - Chili Dog! 822 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:08,613 - Chili Dog? - My kind of man. 823 00:33:08,697 --> 00:33:09,739 - Whoo! 824 00:33:09,781 --> 00:33:11,491 - My man. 825 00:33:13,326 --> 00:33:15,620 - We're just trying to get the full lay of the land, 826 00:33:15,662 --> 00:33:17,664 learn all about all the amazing people who live here. 827 00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:19,082 - Oh, you couldn't have picked a better town, man. 828 00:33:19,124 --> 00:33:20,500 This is the coolest town. 829 00:33:20,583 --> 00:33:22,419 - It's super cool. 830 00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:23,211 - I can't help it. 831 00:33:23,294 --> 00:33:25,255 I just ooze coolness. 832 00:33:25,296 --> 00:33:27,007 [laughter] 833 00:33:27,090 --> 00:33:28,258 - It's kind of cool up in here. 834 00:33:28,299 --> 00:33:29,801 I feel like I met my tribe. 835 00:33:29,884 --> 00:33:32,095 - ♪ I like that, I like that ♪ 836 00:33:32,178 --> 00:33:33,304 ♪ I like--I like that ♪ - ♪ Yeah, you walking home ♪ 837 00:33:33,346 --> 00:33:36,683 - ♪ I like that, I like that, I like that ♪ 838 00:33:36,766 --> 00:33:38,309 ♪ I like--I like that ♪ - ♪ Yeah, you walking home ♪ 839 00:33:38,351 --> 00:33:41,146 ♪ Yeah, I know you want a big boy ♪ 840 00:33:41,229 --> 00:33:42,939 - My son is bisexual... - Wow. 841 00:33:42,981 --> 00:33:44,024 - And he dresses in drag. 842 00:33:44,107 --> 00:33:45,442 - Oh, my God. 843 00:33:45,483 --> 00:33:47,652 - When he dresses in drag, he looks just like me. 844 00:33:47,736 --> 00:33:49,070 - Oh, yeah? - Oh, of course. 845 00:33:49,154 --> 00:33:51,614 - What do you think about seeing drag in these parts? 846 00:33:51,698 --> 00:33:53,742 - It's different for me. - OK. 847 00:33:53,783 --> 00:33:55,118 - I don't have anything against it. 848 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,329 - That's good. - But it's new to me. 849 00:33:58,371 --> 00:33:59,664 - What do you think of our drag today? 850 00:33:59,748 --> 00:34:00,749 - I don't care. 851 00:34:00,832 --> 00:34:02,500 - You mean you don't like it? 852 00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:03,376 - The muscles. 853 00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:04,711 - You like that? - You like the muscles. 854 00:34:04,794 --> 00:34:06,588 [laughter] 855 00:34:06,671 --> 00:34:08,130 What do you think of us? 856 00:34:08,172 --> 00:34:10,216 - Very pretty. - Pretty? 857 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,052 - Pretty. Thank you. - OK. 858 00:34:12,135 --> 00:34:13,844 I was going for, like, butch. 859 00:34:13,928 --> 00:34:15,679 - Rugged. - Man. 860 00:34:15,722 --> 00:34:17,556 Do I look like that? 861 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,768 - Yes. [laughter] 862 00:34:19,851 --> 00:34:21,895 - Look at them muscles. - Whoo! 863 00:34:21,978 --> 00:34:23,188 - Yeah. See? 864 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:24,522 I was gonna say, do you dance? 865 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:25,648 - I should. 866 00:34:25,690 --> 00:34:28,860 - I have some very good friends of mine that are gay. 867 00:34:28,902 --> 00:34:30,779 - Oh. - I have no problem with that. 868 00:34:30,862 --> 00:34:33,156 - Wow. - I have been to gay bars. 869 00:34:33,197 --> 00:34:35,241 I have no problem with that. 870 00:34:35,324 --> 00:34:36,909 - I bet they love you in the gay bar. 871 00:34:36,993 --> 00:34:38,995 - They love you in the gay bar, Bill. 872 00:34:39,036 --> 00:34:41,539 - He's very handsome. - They love you. 873 00:34:41,581 --> 00:34:43,917 - This is definitely a "don't judge a book 874 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,543 by its cover" moment for me. 875 00:34:45,627 --> 00:34:49,839 We couldn't even find anywhere to sit in drag in Bartlesville. 876 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,510 But here are these bikers... [laughs] 877 00:34:53,551 --> 00:34:54,427 Who are accepting. 878 00:34:54,511 --> 00:34:55,969 - We're at the town pub. Cheers. 879 00:34:56,054 --> 00:34:57,097 - We're gonna drink at the town pub. 880 00:34:57,180 --> 00:34:58,890 - Cheers to the town pub, everybody. 881 00:34:58,932 --> 00:35:00,517 - They put on drag too. 882 00:35:00,558 --> 00:35:02,227 Their thing is leather and jeans. 883 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:04,354 My thing is dresses and rhinestones. 884 00:35:04,396 --> 00:35:08,483 I mean, you know, whatever your gig is. 885 00:35:08,566 --> 00:35:11,277 - Whoo! 886 00:35:11,361 --> 00:35:12,946 - I'm not that much of a man. 887 00:35:13,029 --> 00:35:14,656 Ooh, mm-mm. 888 00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:19,744 [light music] 889 00:35:19,828 --> 00:35:21,496 ♪ ♪ 890 00:35:21,579 --> 00:35:22,914 [cow moos] 891 00:35:22,956 --> 00:35:26,209 - There's so many things about Bartlesville that I love. 892 00:35:26,251 --> 00:35:31,214 We're out in the country, small-town atmosphere. 893 00:35:31,256 --> 00:35:34,384 But it's, you know, 30,000 people. 894 00:35:34,426 --> 00:35:36,261 ♪ ♪ 895 00:35:36,344 --> 00:35:37,929 I can't go grocery shopping 896 00:35:38,013 --> 00:35:39,848 without running into ten people. 897 00:35:39,931 --> 00:35:42,142 ♪ ♪ 898 00:35:42,225 --> 00:35:44,102 You need a bath, stinky boy. 899 00:35:44,185 --> 00:35:45,937 [horse chuffs] You need a bath. 900 00:35:46,021 --> 00:35:48,523 [cow moos] 901 00:35:48,606 --> 00:35:51,609 Kevin and I have been together since 1998, 902 00:35:51,693 --> 00:35:54,154 and we've been married since 2011. 903 00:35:54,237 --> 00:35:55,530 Do you want me to take the milk in? 904 00:35:55,613 --> 00:35:56,614 - Yeah, if you want to help milk. 905 00:35:56,698 --> 00:35:57,615 - OK. 906 00:35:57,699 --> 00:35:59,951 He's just one of the best people I've ever met. 907 00:36:00,035 --> 00:36:01,536 [cow moos] 908 00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:05,123 ♪ ♪ 909 00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:06,791 - Grab Izzy. 910 00:36:06,875 --> 00:36:10,128 - In this area, politically, 911 00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:14,090 it tends to lead more conservative. 912 00:36:14,132 --> 00:36:17,844 Being a gay male living here, I've always just tried to say, 913 00:36:17,927 --> 00:36:19,721 hey, you know me. 914 00:36:19,804 --> 00:36:22,474 Kevin and I, we work. 915 00:36:22,515 --> 00:36:24,809 We make food. We grocery shop. 916 00:36:24,851 --> 00:36:26,019 We watch TV at night. 917 00:36:26,102 --> 00:36:27,812 We do the same thing everybody else does. 918 00:36:27,896 --> 00:36:30,440 [laughter] - Good night. 919 00:36:30,482 --> 00:36:34,152 - My life is just like anybody else's life. 920 00:36:34,194 --> 00:36:35,320 You don't have a problem with me. 921 00:36:35,362 --> 00:36:40,116 Why do you have a problem with the LGBTQ community? 922 00:36:40,158 --> 00:36:42,911 ♪ ♪ 923 00:36:45,246 --> 00:36:47,499 - Things in Bartlesville are so intense. 924 00:36:47,540 --> 00:36:49,793 To even meet Randy with his husband, 925 00:36:49,834 --> 00:36:51,086 we got to go over to Dewey. 926 00:36:51,169 --> 00:36:52,587 We got to hit it over to the next town. 927 00:36:52,671 --> 00:36:54,130 - Welcome to Dewey. - We're here. 928 00:36:54,172 --> 00:36:55,632 - We have just crossed Bartlesville to Dewey. 929 00:36:55,674 --> 00:36:57,342 And the people in Bartlesville are like, 930 00:36:57,384 --> 00:36:58,885 I don't want to drive all the way to Dewey. 931 00:36:58,968 --> 00:37:00,804 - All the way? - I know. 932 00:37:00,845 --> 00:37:04,933 - So you said that there are drag shows here in Dewey. 933 00:37:05,016 --> 00:37:05,809 - Yep. 934 00:37:05,850 --> 00:37:08,186 - So literally, that was three minutes-- 935 00:37:08,228 --> 00:37:10,814 - Why the difference? - Yeah. 936 00:37:10,855 --> 00:37:12,232 - 'Cause they don't care. 937 00:37:12,315 --> 00:37:14,859 It's like, you drive in your lane. 938 00:37:14,943 --> 00:37:16,319 I'll drive in my lane. 939 00:37:16,361 --> 00:37:18,863 - They have this live-and-let-live philosophy 940 00:37:18,947 --> 00:37:20,198 that they're living by. 941 00:37:20,281 --> 00:37:21,783 It ain't none of my business. 942 00:37:22,867 --> 00:37:24,035 [mimics explosion] 943 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:25,328 Mind blown. 944 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:28,373 - And this is my favorite place... 945 00:37:28,456 --> 00:37:30,917 - Yeah? - The Scissortail Brewery. 946 00:37:31,001 --> 00:37:33,253 - Well, hey, Kevin. - Hey there. 947 00:37:33,336 --> 00:37:34,963 I went ahead and ordered some beer for y'all. 948 00:37:35,046 --> 00:37:36,381 - Oh, you already getting started. 949 00:37:36,464 --> 00:37:39,009 - I already got started. - OK, well, good for you. 950 00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:40,719 - Here you go. 951 00:37:40,802 --> 00:37:42,721 - Ooh. - Thank you. 952 00:37:42,762 --> 00:37:44,973 - I guess it's not butch to ask for a straw, huh? 953 00:37:47,642 --> 00:37:49,769 [laughter] 954 00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:52,313 Such a lady. 955 00:37:52,397 --> 00:37:54,274 Well, can we talk about Bartlesville? 956 00:37:54,357 --> 00:37:57,444 'Cause there's a feeling of, people know who you are. 957 00:37:57,527 --> 00:37:59,404 - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. 958 00:37:59,446 --> 00:38:01,156 - My family's been here a long time, 959 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,617 and I live my life, you know. 960 00:38:04,701 --> 00:38:06,453 We don't go buy gay groceries. 961 00:38:06,536 --> 00:38:08,079 We just go to the grocery store, you know. 962 00:38:08,163 --> 00:38:09,622 - Yeah. - They know him. 963 00:38:09,706 --> 00:38:11,916 They know me. It's just us. 964 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,589 I mean, Bartlesville's, like, closed-minded in some ways. 965 00:38:17,672 --> 00:38:22,510 - There was a time when drag shows and people 966 00:38:22,594 --> 00:38:25,263 of the LGBTQ community were not an issue 967 00:38:25,347 --> 00:38:27,640 because it was never talked about. 968 00:38:27,724 --> 00:38:30,435 For some of them, I think they're having to be confronted 969 00:38:30,477 --> 00:38:32,771 with it for the first time... - Mm-hmm. 970 00:38:32,812 --> 00:38:36,608 - And they don't quite know how to handle it, 971 00:38:36,649 --> 00:38:39,277 so they just kind of slink back in the shadows 972 00:38:39,319 --> 00:38:41,321 and just let the loud people... 973 00:38:41,404 --> 00:38:42,405 - Be loud. 974 00:38:42,447 --> 00:38:44,949 - Be loud and do what they do. 975 00:38:44,991 --> 00:38:47,035 ♪ ♪ 976 00:38:47,118 --> 00:38:52,165 - Being from a small town and being from the hood 977 00:38:52,248 --> 00:38:55,669 are not entirely separate. 978 00:38:55,752 --> 00:38:58,004 The closed-minded mentality is still the same. 979 00:38:58,088 --> 00:39:00,256 The bigotry is still the same. 980 00:39:00,298 --> 00:39:03,468 I'm originally from Compton, California. 981 00:39:03,551 --> 00:39:05,512 We have thugs, doing drugs. 982 00:39:05,595 --> 00:39:07,013 We're in the military. 983 00:39:07,097 --> 00:39:08,306 And there was no place 984 00:39:08,348 --> 00:39:10,308 for a little queer kid like me. 985 00:39:10,392 --> 00:39:12,602 And that's why I left where I left, 986 00:39:12,644 --> 00:39:14,312 but not everybody can do that. 987 00:39:14,354 --> 00:39:16,731 My question to you is, like, 988 00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:20,610 would you ever consider, like, doing drag? 989 00:39:20,652 --> 00:39:23,655 - Since I was young, I always wanted to be 990 00:39:23,738 --> 00:39:25,573 not necessarily an activist. 991 00:39:25,657 --> 00:39:28,952 But doing drag, for me, it would be 992 00:39:28,993 --> 00:39:31,329 a great platform to be able to show people 993 00:39:31,371 --> 00:39:32,747 that, hey, I got a beard. 994 00:39:32,831 --> 00:39:33,790 I got a farm. 995 00:39:33,832 --> 00:39:36,543 If I can do it, anybody can do it. 996 00:39:36,626 --> 00:39:39,379 - Now, more than ever, just the fact 997 00:39:39,462 --> 00:39:43,174 that you are stepping into this... 998 00:39:43,216 --> 00:39:44,968 - Yeah. - Is a political statement. 999 00:39:45,010 --> 00:39:47,595 And I think we can do something real special and real powerful 1000 00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:51,016 and wake these people up. 1001 00:39:51,057 --> 00:39:55,520 The hope and dream is to have a show in Bartlesville. 1002 00:39:55,562 --> 00:39:58,690 Randy, I don't think that he has grasped 1003 00:39:58,732 --> 00:40:01,985 the importance of what he's doing. 1004 00:40:02,027 --> 00:40:05,864 You are leading the charge in your community. 1005 00:40:05,947 --> 00:40:08,658 Kevin, what do you think about this? 1006 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:09,951 - It's gonna take a lot of spackling. 1007 00:40:10,035 --> 00:40:12,912 - [laughs] We got that. 1008 00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:15,665 - Did anybody bring divorce papers? 1009 00:40:15,707 --> 00:40:18,626 [laughter] 1010 00:40:18,668 --> 00:40:22,422 ♪ ♪ 1011 00:40:22,505 --> 00:40:25,050 - I like you. You're sassy. 1012 00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:28,053 [upbeat music] 1013 00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:32,557 ♪ ♪ 1014 00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,225 - My queen, I've come to the castle. 1015 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:35,894 Shall we go see the house? - Oh, girl. 1016 00:40:35,977 --> 00:40:37,896 - Yes. - Let me get you a beverage. 1017 00:40:37,937 --> 00:40:39,397 - OK, great. 1018 00:40:39,439 --> 00:40:42,776 - Oh, my God. 1019 00:40:42,859 --> 00:40:45,236 Oh, my God. 1020 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,074 - [laughs] 1021 00:40:49,157 --> 00:40:50,575 It's a bordello. 1022 00:40:50,617 --> 00:40:51,951 Doesn't it look like one? 1023 00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:53,953 Look at the couch. 1024 00:40:54,037 --> 00:40:55,080 So I have to show you-- 1025 00:40:55,121 --> 00:40:57,248 - I cannot believe this house. - I have to show you-- 1026 00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:58,917 do you know who that is? - No. 1027 00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:00,877 - Oh, honey, you've never seen him before? 1028 00:41:00,919 --> 00:41:02,003 - That is-- 1029 00:41:02,087 --> 00:41:05,173 - That is John Holmes, the famous porn star 1030 00:41:05,256 --> 00:41:07,258 who died of HIV complications. 1031 00:41:07,342 --> 00:41:08,968 - OK. - I'm in the prevention field. 1032 00:41:09,052 --> 00:41:10,053 - OK. 1033 00:41:10,095 --> 00:41:11,346 - I worked with HIV and hep C for years. 1034 00:41:11,429 --> 00:41:12,430 - OK. 1035 00:41:12,514 --> 00:41:14,432 - And he's a great conversation when I have dinner-- 1036 00:41:14,474 --> 00:41:15,850 little small dinner parties. 1037 00:41:15,934 --> 00:41:18,853 - I love that although, like, your home is quite chaotic, 1038 00:41:18,937 --> 00:41:20,522 it's almost, like, just, like, homage 1039 00:41:20,605 --> 00:41:21,940 to people in our community. 1040 00:41:21,981 --> 00:41:25,068 - It's an homage to so many people in our community. 1041 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:26,319 - That's really interesting. 1042 00:41:26,403 --> 00:41:27,862 - And plus, it represents my personality. 1043 00:41:27,946 --> 00:41:28,988 - Right. 1044 00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:32,117 ♪ ♪ 1045 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,369 - You have to--you have to see the bedroom. 1046 00:41:34,452 --> 00:41:36,121 - Look at that vanity. Oh, my God. 1047 00:41:36,204 --> 00:41:37,622 - [laughs] 1048 00:41:37,706 --> 00:41:39,082 - This is beautiful. Look at this doll. 1049 00:41:39,124 --> 00:41:40,917 - Sit down. Sit down. 1050 00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,837 There I am in the skirt. 1051 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,963 - [chuckles] 1052 00:41:45,046 --> 00:41:46,423 - I was four there. 1053 00:41:46,464 --> 00:41:48,508 - You were wearing a skirt at four years old? 1054 00:41:48,591 --> 00:41:49,509 - Four years old. 1055 00:41:49,592 --> 00:41:53,096 I knew who I was, and they thought it was cute. 1056 00:41:53,138 --> 00:41:54,055 - OK, 'cause you're younger. 1057 00:41:54,139 --> 00:41:56,850 - I'm younger, and my grandmother would say, 1058 00:41:56,933 --> 00:41:58,226 let him alone. 1059 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:59,227 My grandmother ruled me. 1060 00:41:59,310 --> 00:42:00,687 She knew who I was. 1061 00:42:00,770 --> 00:42:03,273 But then she got feeble, 1062 00:42:03,314 --> 00:42:05,316 and they started shaming me out of it. 1063 00:42:05,358 --> 00:42:06,443 - Shit. 1064 00:42:06,484 --> 00:42:07,777 - And I gave it up, and I hated it. 1065 00:42:07,819 --> 00:42:09,070 - Right, you're miserable. 1066 00:42:09,154 --> 00:42:10,947 - I hated drag queens and feminine people 1067 00:42:10,989 --> 00:42:12,323 when I first came out. - Wow, me too. 1068 00:42:12,365 --> 00:42:14,743 - So until I learned to love myself... 1069 00:42:14,826 --> 00:42:15,660 - Right. 1070 00:42:15,744 --> 00:42:18,371 - I started to learn to love the female side. 1071 00:42:18,455 --> 00:42:20,874 ♪ ♪ 1072 00:42:20,957 --> 00:42:23,585 - I feel like I relate to you in a lot of ways, 1073 00:42:23,668 --> 00:42:28,548 hearing how femininity made you feel growing up 1074 00:42:28,631 --> 00:42:30,008 and how you kind of had a hate towards it. 1075 00:42:30,050 --> 00:42:31,509 Like, I felt the exact same way, like, not-- 1076 00:42:31,593 --> 00:42:33,470 like, as simple as, like, not wearing pink. 1077 00:42:33,511 --> 00:42:35,930 And then, like-- - Oh. And you love pink. 1078 00:42:36,014 --> 00:42:39,017 - I love pink. 1079 00:42:39,059 --> 00:42:40,685 - I had a drag time. 1080 00:42:40,727 --> 00:42:43,521 And then we went to the bar in drag, 1081 00:42:43,563 --> 00:42:45,648 and then we were just ridiculed. 1082 00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:48,443 Gay guys at that time in the '80s, 1083 00:42:48,526 --> 00:42:50,028 they weren't real drag supportive... 1084 00:42:50,111 --> 00:42:51,279 - Mm-mm. - At all. 1085 00:42:51,363 --> 00:42:52,655 - No. - So you were a freak. 1086 00:42:52,697 --> 00:42:54,699 They looked at you like you were some kind of freak. 1087 00:42:54,741 --> 00:42:57,285 But the neat thing about my culture, 1088 00:42:57,369 --> 00:43:00,372 two-spirited culture, is, you don't have to choose. 1089 00:43:00,455 --> 00:43:01,831 - That's amazing. - We can be. 1090 00:43:01,873 --> 00:43:02,874 - You can just be whatever you want to be. 1091 00:43:02,957 --> 00:43:04,876 - That's what it's all about. 1092 00:43:04,918 --> 00:43:06,503 - I guess, like, here in Oklahoma 1093 00:43:06,544 --> 00:43:08,546 and you being two-spirit, 1094 00:43:08,588 --> 00:43:09,923 is there a two-spirit community? 1095 00:43:10,006 --> 00:43:10,882 - Oh, yeah. 1096 00:43:10,965 --> 00:43:12,717 They're having a two-spirited meeting, 1097 00:43:12,801 --> 00:43:14,844 and I don't know how many people are gonna be there. 1098 00:43:14,886 --> 00:43:15,804 - OK. 1099 00:43:15,887 --> 00:43:17,347 - I quit going because I needed a break. 1100 00:43:17,389 --> 00:43:18,890 - OK. - I started the group. 1101 00:43:18,932 --> 00:43:19,891 - Oh, wow. 1102 00:43:19,974 --> 00:43:22,602 - I love them, and I love what they're doing. 1103 00:43:22,686 --> 00:43:23,728 But it brings some-- 1104 00:43:23,770 --> 00:43:26,815 it brings some memories back that really kind of hurt. 1105 00:43:26,856 --> 00:43:27,732 - Yeah. 1106 00:43:27,816 --> 00:43:29,526 - 'Cause I used to do this for Creek Nation, 1107 00:43:29,567 --> 00:43:30,860 and they ran me off. 1108 00:43:30,902 --> 00:43:34,072 I'm passionate about educating, 1109 00:43:34,114 --> 00:43:37,409 so I created programs through Creek Nation 1110 00:43:37,492 --> 00:43:39,577 that were helping my people. 1111 00:43:39,619 --> 00:43:42,831 We had HIV prevention programs. 1112 00:43:42,914 --> 00:43:44,124 I was down in the schools. 1113 00:43:44,207 --> 00:43:46,418 I was teaching seventh and eighth graders 1114 00:43:46,459 --> 00:43:48,044 how to take care of each other. 1115 00:43:48,086 --> 00:43:49,838 It was called The Courage to Care, 1116 00:43:49,921 --> 00:43:52,173 and it was a curriculum that I learned 1117 00:43:52,257 --> 00:43:53,675 and became a leader with. 1118 00:43:53,758 --> 00:43:57,512 But as soon as I brought up LGBT two-spirited people, 1119 00:43:57,595 --> 00:43:59,764 they shut it down 1120 00:43:59,848 --> 00:44:03,935 because the church also controls Creek Nation. 1121 00:44:03,977 --> 00:44:06,563 They're influenced by the right-wing 1122 00:44:06,604 --> 00:44:08,648 mega-Christian fanatics. 1123 00:44:08,732 --> 00:44:11,109 And so they stopped me from doing it 1124 00:44:11,151 --> 00:44:14,279 and started treating me terribly. 1125 00:44:14,362 --> 00:44:16,197 I couldn't come out. 1126 00:44:16,281 --> 00:44:20,785 They said, do not mention who you are. 1127 00:44:20,827 --> 00:44:22,328 Oh, God, they followed me. 1128 00:44:22,412 --> 00:44:23,621 They wrote me up. 1129 00:44:23,663 --> 00:44:25,373 They garnished my checks. 1130 00:44:25,457 --> 00:44:27,417 How that really fucks with you... 1131 00:44:27,459 --> 00:44:28,626 - It does. 1132 00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:30,962 - Knowing that they're gonna witch hunt you. 1133 00:44:31,046 --> 00:44:34,049 And it just was too much, and I had to retire. 1134 00:44:34,132 --> 00:44:36,217 I had to get away from that for a while. 1135 00:44:36,301 --> 00:44:37,719 And I'm still healing. 1136 00:44:37,802 --> 00:44:40,638 - In talking to John, it's becoming even clearer 1137 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,807 that Christianity has really affected 1138 00:44:42,849 --> 00:44:44,142 the Indigenous community. 1139 00:44:44,225 --> 00:44:47,812 Tribes that are supposed to be inclusive 1140 00:44:47,896 --> 00:44:51,983 are finding ways to push their own people out. 1141 00:44:52,067 --> 00:44:54,527 I feel like this is, like, your calling. 1142 00:44:54,611 --> 00:44:56,905 Like, when you think of your life mission and purpose... 1143 00:44:56,988 --> 00:44:58,907 - Yeah. - What is it? 1144 00:44:58,990 --> 00:45:00,992 - Helping our people learn, 1145 00:45:01,034 --> 00:45:03,244 passing my talents down... - Uh-huh. 1146 00:45:03,328 --> 00:45:06,373 - Teaching the young ones what gifts I have. 1147 00:45:06,456 --> 00:45:08,166 - Yeah. - That's our culture. 1148 00:45:08,249 --> 00:45:09,084 - Yeah. 1149 00:45:09,167 --> 00:45:10,543 - That's what we're supposed to do. 1150 00:45:10,627 --> 00:45:13,380 But I'm not ready, because I'll start giving 1151 00:45:13,463 --> 00:45:15,298 and giving and giving, 1152 00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:16,633 and then I'll feel depleted. 1153 00:45:16,675 --> 00:45:19,094 - Right. - Mama needs a nap. 1154 00:45:19,177 --> 00:45:21,554 - When you sift through all the chaos, 1155 00:45:21,638 --> 00:45:23,848 you start to see the real John come out. 1156 00:45:23,890 --> 00:45:25,266 She really cares about people, 1157 00:45:25,350 --> 00:45:27,352 and she cares about the wellness of people. 1158 00:45:27,435 --> 00:45:31,648 And it's exciting because there's a person 1159 00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:33,108 that wants to be healed 1160 00:45:33,191 --> 00:45:34,693 and a person that wants to get back 1161 00:45:34,776 --> 00:45:36,861 to what they think that their purpose is. 1162 00:45:36,945 --> 00:45:38,446 Let me get out of your house. - Can I have a hug? 1163 00:45:38,530 --> 00:45:39,864 - Of course. - Thank you so-- 1164 00:45:39,906 --> 00:45:41,366 - You're the best. You are the best. 1165 00:45:41,449 --> 00:45:43,868 I love your energy. - Oh! 1166 00:45:43,952 --> 00:45:46,162 You are welcome anytime. - Yes. 1167 00:45:46,204 --> 00:45:48,623 - And then we can have a chocolate martini seance. 1168 00:45:48,707 --> 00:45:49,874 - Aha! 1169 00:45:49,958 --> 00:45:52,210 Love a chocolate martini seance, never had one. 1170 00:45:52,252 --> 00:45:53,837 - I had a chocolate-- oh, you haven't tasted-- 1171 00:45:53,878 --> 00:45:56,214 - I would do it. 1172 00:46:00,844 --> 00:46:04,139 [light music] 1173 00:46:04,222 --> 00:46:05,890 ♪ ♪ 1174 00:46:05,932 --> 00:46:09,102 - [sighs] So, OK, this whole drag thing-- 1175 00:46:09,185 --> 00:46:10,395 - Yeah. 1176 00:46:10,437 --> 00:46:13,231 - Someone who has never done a drag performance before, 1177 00:46:13,314 --> 00:46:15,233 what are, like, the top three things you would tell them 1178 00:46:15,275 --> 00:46:17,527 so they don't make a total fool of themselves? 1179 00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:21,072 - First of all, don't be afraid of making a fool of yourself, 1180 00:46:21,114 --> 00:46:23,783 because that's the greatest joy of being onstage. 1181 00:46:23,867 --> 00:46:25,076 And kind of the best part of drag 1182 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,247 is watching someone just be free like that. 1183 00:46:29,289 --> 00:46:30,582 - [sighs] 1184 00:46:30,623 --> 00:46:32,876 ♪ ♪ 1185 00:46:32,917 --> 00:46:36,629 In Oklahoma, 95% of the time, 1186 00:46:36,713 --> 00:46:40,258 I'm able to live my life as myself. 1187 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:42,761 But growing up in the Nazarene Church, 1188 00:46:42,844 --> 00:46:45,722 I suppressed a lot. 1189 00:46:45,764 --> 00:46:47,891 [dramatic music] 1190 00:46:47,932 --> 00:46:50,935 - There are destructive individuals who press 1191 00:46:51,019 --> 00:46:54,356 a very militant LGBTQ agenda. 1192 00:46:54,439 --> 00:46:56,191 - Homosexuals, they just need to get saved, 1193 00:46:56,274 --> 00:46:57,609 and it will take care of everything. 1194 00:46:57,650 --> 00:46:59,402 - You must repent. 1195 00:46:59,444 --> 00:47:02,280 ♪ ♪ 1196 00:47:02,322 --> 00:47:05,158 - We are here at the Bethany First Church... 1197 00:47:05,241 --> 00:47:06,076 - Oh, this is... 1198 00:47:06,117 --> 00:47:08,286 - Of the Nazarene. - Your childhood church? 1199 00:47:08,328 --> 00:47:09,204 - Yes. I hate it. 1200 00:47:09,287 --> 00:47:11,414 I see these big pointed windows, 1201 00:47:11,456 --> 00:47:12,707 and I get, like, a... 1202 00:47:12,791 --> 00:47:14,751 - Of course. - Like, trauma response. 1203 00:47:14,793 --> 00:47:16,044 ♪ ♪ 1204 00:47:16,127 --> 00:47:18,630 I would sob myself to sleep 1205 00:47:18,672 --> 00:47:20,131 because they had taught me 1206 00:47:20,215 --> 00:47:23,468 that if you have a homosexual experience, 1207 00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:26,805 you are an absolute abomination in God's eyes 1208 00:47:26,888 --> 00:47:33,228 and you are going to live eternity burning in hell. 1209 00:47:33,311 --> 00:47:35,105 That church messed with me in the head 1210 00:47:35,146 --> 00:47:37,607 more than I think they will ever know, ever. 1211 00:47:37,649 --> 00:47:41,695 - It's heartbreaking to think about being a little child 1212 00:47:41,778 --> 00:47:47,450 and hearing that you will be damned forever if you are gay. 1213 00:47:47,492 --> 00:47:48,743 And I feel like that-- 1214 00:47:48,827 --> 00:47:52,664 that is a kind of trauma and abuse. 1215 00:47:52,747 --> 00:47:56,751 - My dad is also a devoted Nazarene. 1216 00:47:56,835 --> 00:47:58,420 One time when I was a young kid, 1217 00:47:58,503 --> 00:48:02,257 and we were at some chain restaurant, having dinner, 1218 00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:03,550 and I look over at this gay couple 1219 00:48:03,633 --> 00:48:06,136 who is just laughing and enjoying each other's company 1220 00:48:06,177 --> 00:48:08,388 and having martinis. - [laughs] 1221 00:48:08,471 --> 00:48:10,015 - I didn't really know what I was feeling, 1222 00:48:10,056 --> 00:48:12,350 but I knew it was just, like, a happy feeling, you know? 1223 00:48:12,434 --> 00:48:14,477 And when I looked back over at my dad, he goes, 1224 00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:18,273 look at those two fucking faggots over there. 1225 00:48:18,356 --> 00:48:20,191 ♪ ♪ 1226 00:48:20,233 --> 00:48:22,277 - There's no excuse for that. 1227 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,195 ♪ ♪ 1228 00:48:24,237 --> 00:48:26,156 - I've always had such a horrible relationship 1229 00:48:26,197 --> 00:48:28,199 with my dad because I think, you know, 1230 00:48:28,241 --> 00:48:30,827 deep down, he's always known that I was gay. 1231 00:48:30,869 --> 00:48:35,081 One night when my little siblings were over, 1232 00:48:35,165 --> 00:48:37,417 the movie "Hot Chick" was on. 1233 00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:40,211 And my dad comes in the room, and he sees 1234 00:48:40,253 --> 00:48:42,213 the male character in the pink crop top. 1235 00:48:42,255 --> 00:48:44,883 And he lunges over to my bed, and he says, 1236 00:48:44,966 --> 00:48:48,678 don't you ever expose my kids 1237 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,473 to that faggot shit ever again. 1238 00:48:51,556 --> 00:48:54,893 That was the moment when I knew my dad 1239 00:48:54,976 --> 00:48:59,439 will never accept me for being gay, ever. 1240 00:48:59,522 --> 00:49:03,777 ♪ ♪ 1241 00:49:03,860 --> 00:49:08,740 - It's--it's amazing that you are the strong, 1242 00:49:08,823 --> 00:49:11,910 clearheaded person that I see in front of me right now. 1243 00:49:11,951 --> 00:49:13,328 - Thank you. 1244 00:49:13,411 --> 00:49:14,871 - You come from being treated like that 1245 00:49:14,913 --> 00:49:17,040 to be this incredible person? 1246 00:49:17,082 --> 00:49:19,334 That's fucking incredible. 1247 00:49:21,544 --> 00:49:23,672 [upbeat country music] 1248 00:49:23,755 --> 00:49:25,590 - It's fishing day. 1249 00:49:25,674 --> 00:49:26,758 - I'm excited for this. 1250 00:49:26,841 --> 00:49:28,093 - How long does a fish take to catch? 1251 00:49:28,176 --> 00:49:29,719 Don't they just come immediately? 1252 00:49:29,761 --> 00:49:31,304 - No. - No? 1253 00:49:31,388 --> 00:49:32,847 - We may sit here an hour and not catch nothing. 1254 00:49:32,931 --> 00:49:34,015 - An hour? 1255 00:49:34,099 --> 00:49:35,934 - Fishing's fun. - Fishing's fun. 1256 00:49:35,975 --> 00:49:37,977 - I can sit here all day and fish. 1257 00:49:38,061 --> 00:49:39,646 - OK, here we go. 1258 00:49:41,564 --> 00:49:42,607 You can do it. 1259 00:49:42,691 --> 00:49:44,275 Oh, my God. 1260 00:49:44,359 --> 00:49:45,777 [grunting] 1261 00:49:45,860 --> 00:49:47,278 Holy shit. 1262 00:49:48,363 --> 00:49:50,115 Are we manifesting a catch? 1263 00:49:50,198 --> 00:49:51,825 - Yup. - Should we hold hands? 1264 00:49:51,908 --> 00:49:53,743 - We can. 1265 00:49:53,785 --> 00:49:54,786 - OK. 1266 00:49:54,828 --> 00:49:55,954 Dear Arkansas River-- 1267 00:49:55,995 --> 00:49:57,080 - You want to hear my catfish call? 1268 00:49:57,122 --> 00:49:58,456 - Catfish-- what's a catfish call? 1269 00:49:58,540 --> 00:50:00,333 - Cat! - What? 1270 00:50:00,417 --> 00:50:02,794 - Cat! - Cat! 1271 00:50:02,836 --> 00:50:05,422 - Catfish! - Catfish! 1272 00:50:05,463 --> 00:50:07,382 - Pachoo! - Kachoo! 1273 00:50:07,465 --> 00:50:08,925 - Hold your pose, boys. Here they come. 1274 00:50:08,967 --> 00:50:10,552 - Did it work? 1275 00:50:10,635 --> 00:50:12,178 - It never works. - Oh. 1276 00:50:12,262 --> 00:50:13,471 So why'd you make me do it? 1277 00:50:13,513 --> 00:50:14,764 - I don't know, 'cause I think it's funny. 1278 00:50:14,806 --> 00:50:16,474 - [laughs] 1279 00:50:16,558 --> 00:50:17,851 So you come here alone all the time? 1280 00:50:17,934 --> 00:50:20,186 - Mm-hmm. I'll be here for hours. 1281 00:50:20,270 --> 00:50:21,396 - You'll just sit here all day? 1282 00:50:21,479 --> 00:50:22,647 - Mm-hmm. 1283 00:50:23,815 --> 00:50:27,485 Sit here, go live on TikTok, and just talk to people. 1284 00:50:29,988 --> 00:50:31,865 Another threat. [chuckles] 1285 00:50:31,948 --> 00:50:33,116 I get threats all the time. 1286 00:50:33,158 --> 00:50:34,451 - What do they say? 1287 00:50:34,492 --> 00:50:36,953 - Giving the finger doesn't stop that flag 1288 00:50:36,995 --> 00:50:38,788 or possibly your house burning down. 1289 00:50:38,830 --> 00:50:39,956 - Jesus. 1290 00:50:39,998 --> 00:50:41,332 - Bring it, motherfucker. 1291 00:50:41,374 --> 00:50:44,753 - So when people are saying these things to you online, 1292 00:50:44,836 --> 00:50:47,088 doesn't it eat away at you? 1293 00:50:47,172 --> 00:50:49,841 - Not gonna do anything. 1294 00:50:49,924 --> 00:50:52,093 Just mouthing off. 1295 00:50:52,177 --> 00:50:53,511 - But I mean, there's also, though-- 1296 00:50:53,595 --> 00:50:57,474 like, there is the yous that are, like, protecting us. 1297 00:50:57,515 --> 00:50:58,808 - Mm-hmm. - But then there's, like, 1298 00:50:58,850 --> 00:51:02,312 people like me who walk around the streets of Oklahoma 1299 00:51:02,354 --> 00:51:04,105 and don't feel that safe. 1300 00:51:04,189 --> 00:51:07,692 So is the threat our rights being taken away here, 1301 00:51:07,734 --> 00:51:10,779 or is the threat actual violence here, or is it both? 1302 00:51:10,862 --> 00:51:13,156 - Both. 1303 00:51:13,198 --> 00:51:14,824 I can see actual violence happening, 1304 00:51:14,866 --> 00:51:18,119 and there'll be other people that won't stop them. 1305 00:51:18,203 --> 00:51:20,038 And that's why I'm trying to get ahold of the people 1306 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,625 that are quiet and say, 1307 00:51:23,708 --> 00:51:25,126 speak up, man. - Right. 1308 00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:26,378 - Say something. - Right. 1309 00:51:26,419 --> 00:51:27,671 - Let them know they're outnumbered. 1310 00:51:27,754 --> 00:51:28,546 - Right. - They don't know it. 1311 00:51:28,588 --> 00:51:31,216 They're the loudest right now. - Uh-huh. 1312 00:51:31,257 --> 00:51:34,427 - The LGBTQ community, they're up against hate. 1313 00:51:34,511 --> 00:51:36,721 So I am trying to be the loudest now. 1314 00:51:36,805 --> 00:51:38,348 I'm your everyday dude. 1315 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:42,185 I have my beard, my gut, my size. 1316 00:51:42,227 --> 00:51:43,645 I can talk to anybody. 1317 00:51:43,728 --> 00:51:45,063 If I'm standing there, they're not gonna 1318 00:51:45,146 --> 00:51:46,356 run their mouth as much as they would 1319 00:51:46,398 --> 00:51:47,899 if I'm not standing there. 1320 00:51:47,982 --> 00:51:50,026 - Right. - Let's be the fucking loudest. 1321 00:51:50,068 --> 00:51:52,570 I want a whole freaking army of people like me. 1322 00:51:52,654 --> 00:51:55,281 - Yeah, same. 1323 00:51:55,365 --> 00:51:57,826 Same. 1324 00:51:57,909 --> 00:52:00,912 How do you feel about potentially putting a wig on? 1325 00:52:00,954 --> 00:52:01,913 - I love drag. 1326 00:52:01,996 --> 00:52:03,456 I love it. 1327 00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:05,208 I don't like to intrude, but I just-- 1328 00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:06,584 I love to be part of it. 1329 00:52:06,626 --> 00:52:08,628 What does dressing up as drag make you feel like? 1330 00:52:08,712 --> 00:52:12,132 Is it an extension of who you wanted to be, 1331 00:52:12,215 --> 00:52:14,217 or is it a character, or is it part of you? 1332 00:52:14,259 --> 00:52:15,677 - It's like, it's part of me. 1333 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,555 At first, I was unclear of, like, what it was. 1334 00:52:18,596 --> 00:52:19,931 The more and more I kept doing it, 1335 00:52:19,973 --> 00:52:21,599 it became more of an extension of me 1336 00:52:21,641 --> 00:52:24,728 and ended up being the person I wish I was as a kid. 1337 00:52:24,769 --> 00:52:26,771 Like, all the things that I did in my bedroom as a kid-- 1338 00:52:26,813 --> 00:52:29,065 like, you lock the door, you turn on some pop songs, 1339 00:52:29,149 --> 00:52:31,151 and you, like, dance around and turn on the fan 1340 00:52:31,234 --> 00:52:32,736 and, like, put a towel over your head 'cause, like, 1341 00:52:32,777 --> 00:52:35,405 you want to have long hair 'cause, like, beauty. 1342 00:52:35,447 --> 00:52:36,364 - Mm-hmm. 1343 00:52:36,448 --> 00:52:38,742 - This is what doing drag is for me, for sure. 1344 00:52:38,783 --> 00:52:41,327 It's like, it became an escape of, like, the realities 1345 00:52:41,411 --> 00:52:43,079 of not knowing who I am, 1346 00:52:43,121 --> 00:52:46,624 and then it became, like, who I am. 1347 00:52:46,708 --> 00:52:47,959 It's amazing. 1348 00:52:48,043 --> 00:52:49,461 - When it comes to drag, 1349 00:52:49,544 --> 00:52:51,087 I think I could learn from the experiences 1350 00:52:51,129 --> 00:52:52,505 they've been through, 1351 00:52:52,589 --> 00:52:54,215 the things they've struggled with, 1352 00:52:54,299 --> 00:52:56,009 because people see me talk. 1353 00:52:56,092 --> 00:52:58,219 This is gonna walk the walk. 1354 00:52:58,303 --> 00:52:59,679 I think I could do this, 1355 00:52:59,763 --> 00:53:01,181 but I've always thought I could be a male stripper too, 1356 00:53:01,264 --> 00:53:02,390 so I don't know. 1357 00:53:02,474 --> 00:53:03,224 [laughs] 1358 00:53:03,308 --> 00:53:05,101 - Oh! - Oh. 1359 00:53:05,143 --> 00:53:06,269 What's happening? 1360 00:53:06,311 --> 00:53:07,771 [upbeat banjo music] 1361 00:53:07,812 --> 00:53:09,147 Oh, my God. 1362 00:53:09,189 --> 00:53:10,482 Are we catching a fish? 1363 00:53:10,523 --> 00:53:12,317 [screams] - You want to reel it in? 1364 00:53:12,359 --> 00:53:14,152 - Yes. What am I doing? What am I doing? 1365 00:53:14,235 --> 00:53:15,528 - You're gonna reel it with your left hand. 1366 00:53:15,612 --> 00:53:17,989 - [grunts] Come to Mother. 1367 00:53:18,031 --> 00:53:19,699 [grunts] 1368 00:53:19,783 --> 00:53:21,159 Is it coming? - Yup. 1369 00:53:21,242 --> 00:53:22,243 - What kind of fish do you think is it? 1370 00:53:22,327 --> 00:53:23,620 - It's a catfish. 1371 00:53:23,661 --> 00:53:24,871 - Come on. 1372 00:53:24,954 --> 00:53:26,456 It's gonna come right behind you. 1373 00:53:26,498 --> 00:53:28,458 Yes! 1374 00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:29,542 - Get it up here. - Come to Mama! 1375 00:53:29,626 --> 00:53:31,127 - Get it up here. - [grunts] 1376 00:53:31,169 --> 00:53:32,587 Oh, my God. 1377 00:53:32,671 --> 00:53:33,713 It's so heavy. 1378 00:53:33,797 --> 00:53:35,799 [grunting] - [laughs] 1379 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,092 Look at you. 1380 00:53:37,175 --> 00:53:39,177 - Yay! 1381 00:53:39,219 --> 00:53:41,179 Oh, my God. 1382 00:53:41,262 --> 00:53:43,640 Holy shit, that's a big fish. 1383 00:53:43,682 --> 00:53:46,518 - You want to hold it? - No. Yes. 1384 00:53:46,601 --> 00:53:48,228 No. Yes. 1385 00:53:48,311 --> 00:53:50,980 I'm so country. - [chuckles] 1386 00:53:51,022 --> 00:53:53,566 - I don't like it! I don't like it! 1387 00:53:53,650 --> 00:53:55,068 Oh, my God. 1388 00:53:55,151 --> 00:53:57,153 ♪ ♪ 1389 00:53:57,195 --> 00:53:58,363 We're iconic. 1390 00:53:58,405 --> 00:54:00,532 That's drag magic right there. 1391 00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:05,704 [somber music] 1392 00:54:05,787 --> 00:54:09,624 "Drag show puts Bartlesville business owner in crossfire." 1393 00:54:09,708 --> 00:54:11,292 ♪ ♪ 1394 00:54:11,376 --> 00:54:14,337 "Culture war, trying to solve an argument 1395 00:54:14,379 --> 00:54:16,756 over drag shows in public spaces." 1396 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,844 - The more we find out about Bartlesville, 1397 00:54:20,885 --> 00:54:23,013 the more we realize the struggle is real 1398 00:54:23,054 --> 00:54:27,392 and has been very real for them over these last couple years. 1399 00:54:27,475 --> 00:54:30,895 - So this last year at Pride in Bartlesville, 1400 00:54:30,937 --> 00:54:33,565 protesters held signs saying, 1401 00:54:33,606 --> 00:54:36,860 "That rainbow flag is a symbol of your hatred of God." 1402 00:54:36,901 --> 00:54:38,278 - Oh, my God. - Really? 1403 00:54:38,361 --> 00:54:40,155 - Oh, my God, that's heartbreaking. 1404 00:54:40,238 --> 00:54:41,906 - Meeting Randy has actually given me 1405 00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:43,408 a little glimmer of hope, 1406 00:54:43,491 --> 00:54:46,244 like there's a possibility of some change 1407 00:54:46,286 --> 00:54:47,412 that can happen. 1408 00:54:47,495 --> 00:54:50,248 My wish is that people are willing 1409 00:54:50,290 --> 00:54:52,584 to have a conversation for real. 1410 00:54:52,667 --> 00:54:57,213 But we got an email from OK Equality. 1411 00:54:57,297 --> 00:54:59,758 - "I'm writing on behalf of Oklahomans for Equality 1412 00:54:59,841 --> 00:55:02,260 "Bartlesville, the only organization in our community 1413 00:55:02,302 --> 00:55:03,970 "focused on human rights and equality 1414 00:55:04,054 --> 00:55:06,264 "for LGBTQIA+ individuals. 1415 00:55:06,348 --> 00:55:08,099 "We wish to express our concerns 1416 00:55:08,183 --> 00:55:09,809 "regarding the potential filming 1417 00:55:09,893 --> 00:55:12,729 "of one or more episodes of HBO's 'We're Here' 1418 00:55:12,771 --> 00:55:13,772 "in our community. 1419 00:55:13,813 --> 00:55:16,608 "Over the past year, tensions in our community 1420 00:55:16,649 --> 00:55:18,735 "have heightened in response to our 2022 1421 00:55:18,777 --> 00:55:22,364 "Pride celebration, which included drag performances. 1422 00:55:22,447 --> 00:55:23,865 "We are very concerned that the presence 1423 00:55:23,948 --> 00:55:26,785 "of a television crew and the production activities 1424 00:55:26,826 --> 00:55:30,497 "associated with the show will exacerbate these divisions 1425 00:55:30,580 --> 00:55:33,875 "and serve as the flashpoint that may inevitably erupt 1426 00:55:33,958 --> 00:55:36,294 "in increased threats, harassment, and violence 1427 00:55:36,336 --> 00:55:37,754 in our community." 1428 00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:39,464 - "We kindly request that you reconsider 1429 00:55:39,506 --> 00:55:41,299 "your decision to film 'We're Here' 1430 00:55:41,341 --> 00:55:42,842 in Bartlesville at this time." 1431 00:55:42,926 --> 00:55:43,760 - Whoa. 1432 00:55:43,802 --> 00:55:45,303 - It's like, what? What do you mean? 1433 00:55:45,345 --> 00:55:46,471 I thought we're all in this together. 1434 00:55:46,554 --> 00:55:48,348 - This is the people who are supposed to be 1435 00:55:48,431 --> 00:55:52,560 fighting and helping visibility 1436 00:55:52,644 --> 00:55:56,147 and a safe place for the community. 1437 00:55:56,231 --> 00:55:58,274 And you're scared. 1438 00:55:58,316 --> 00:55:59,609 - Yeah, there's so much fear. - You're scared. 1439 00:55:59,651 --> 00:56:01,611 - There's so much fear. 1440 00:56:01,653 --> 00:56:02,946 ♪ ♪ 1441 00:56:02,987 --> 00:56:05,323 - They can't speak for everyone in the community. 1442 00:56:05,365 --> 00:56:07,492 Even though they are an organization and they-- 1443 00:56:07,534 --> 00:56:09,577 they are doing good work, 1444 00:56:09,661 --> 00:56:11,621 there are people in that town who probably do want 1445 00:56:11,663 --> 00:56:13,081 their stories out there. - Yeah. 1446 00:56:13,164 --> 00:56:14,791 - And just like the church can't speak for all people, 1447 00:56:14,833 --> 00:56:16,334 neither can a Pride organization. 1448 00:56:16,418 --> 00:56:17,585 - Correct. - Yeah. 1449 00:56:17,669 --> 00:56:19,629 I think a lot of queer people forget that being queer period 1450 00:56:19,671 --> 00:56:21,464 is always a fight every single day. 1451 00:56:21,506 --> 00:56:22,924 - It pissed me off. 1452 00:56:23,008 --> 00:56:26,511 You are supposed to be the torch that ignites 1453 00:56:26,594 --> 00:56:29,889 the fire in this community, and you are saying... 1454 00:56:29,973 --> 00:56:31,182 [mimics embers sizzling] 1455 00:56:31,224 --> 00:56:32,600 We need some water. 1456 00:56:32,642 --> 00:56:34,686 ♪ ♪ 1457 00:56:34,728 --> 00:56:37,772 No letter's gonna stop us from trying to do a show. 1458 00:56:37,856 --> 00:56:40,900 ♪ ♪ 1459 00:56:40,984 --> 00:56:42,819 [upbeat music] 1460 00:56:42,861 --> 00:56:44,237 - There's stars next to my favorites. 1461 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,156 - Thank you for your input. 1462 00:56:46,197 --> 00:56:49,200 ♪ ♪ 1463 00:56:49,242 --> 00:56:50,618 - Make it dramatic. 1464 00:56:50,702 --> 00:56:51,870 I'm a drag queen, God damn it. 1465 00:56:51,953 --> 00:56:52,912 - Whoo! 1466 00:56:52,996 --> 00:56:54,247 - That's gorgeous! 1467 00:56:54,330 --> 00:56:55,749 - This is your moment! 1468 00:56:55,832 --> 00:56:56,875 - [ululating] 1469 00:56:56,958 --> 00:56:58,001 - Oh, my goodness. 1470 00:56:58,043 --> 00:56:59,002 [cheers and applause] 1471 00:56:59,085 --> 00:57:00,712 - We show up, and we show out. 1472 00:57:00,754 --> 00:57:03,089 What if we had a drag show in the church? 1473 00:57:03,173 --> 00:57:05,008 - Oh, wow. Yes. 1474 00:57:05,050 --> 00:57:07,135 - We put out a full-page ad. 1475 00:57:07,218 --> 00:57:09,596 - "Three properly placed bullets 1476 00:57:09,679 --> 00:57:13,558 would put a quick stop to this pedo porn BS." 1477 00:57:13,641 --> 00:57:15,852 - Good morning. Please be seated. 1478 00:57:15,894 --> 00:57:18,396 - Hearing the priest took me to a place 1479 00:57:18,438 --> 00:57:19,856 that I wasn't prepared for. 1480 00:57:19,898 --> 00:57:23,193 - I woke up in a puddle of blood. 1481 00:57:23,234 --> 00:57:24,235 - God! 1482 00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:26,154 How can you feel safe ever? 1483 00:57:26,237 --> 00:57:27,781 - So do all of you feel safe? 1484 00:57:27,864 --> 00:57:28,698 - I'm terrified. 1485 00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:31,076 - We have homo demons. 1486 00:57:31,159 --> 00:57:32,577 - This is a wake-up call. 1487 00:57:32,660 --> 00:57:34,829 We are worried for our safety. 1488 00:57:34,913 --> 00:57:35,914 Here we go. 1489 00:57:40,335 --> 00:57:42,921 [bright tone]