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[suspenseful music]
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♪ ♪
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- Hi, everyone, I'm dan abrams,
and this is "courtcam."
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- You ready to take the plea?
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[group shouting]
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- [bleep] you!
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- I'll kill all you [bleep].
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- I hope you die in prison
as well.
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We kick things off
in orange county, florida,
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Where the defendant is making
his second appearance
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Here on "courtcam."
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- Jeremy dewitte.
Did I say that right?
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- Yes, sir.
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- 41-year-old jeremy dewitte
is charged with carrying
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A concealed weapon.
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The orange county
sheriff's office
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Is very familiar
with dewitte...
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- Since dewitte's
been arrested
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Several times in the past,
and convicted once
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For impersonating
a police officer.
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- What are you doing?
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- What the [bleep] does it look
like I'm doing, dumb [bleep]?
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Get the [bleep] over
before you find out.
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[siren wailing]
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- Dewitte runs
a security company
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That provides escort service
during funeral processions.
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But he has a long history
of using this business
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To drive recklessly
through traffic...
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[truck horn blaring]
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Block intersections...
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- Go past me!
Go past me!
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- And confront other drivers
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When he believes they're
disrupting his services.
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- Hey, pull over!
Pull over!
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- Police eventually caught up
with dewitte,
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And he was charged
in two different counties
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With impersonating an officer
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And failing to register
as a sex offender.
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He was released on bond.
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And that's when police
catch up with him again,
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Ten months later.
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A deputy stops him, along with
one of his employees,
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When he sees dewitte carrying
what appears to be a firearm.
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- Don't reach for that firearm!
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Walk away from your bike!
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Keep your hands up!
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Keep your hands up!
Go down to your knees!
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Do not reach for that firearm!
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You're being secured
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'cause you're openly carrying
a firearm.
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- What?
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- You're openly
carrying a firearm.
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- It's illegal to openly
carry a firearm in florida,
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And after he's placed
in cuffs,
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The deputy tries to remove
dewitte's helmet,
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Which the faux police officer
does not appreciate.
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- What are you taking
my helmet off for?
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- I'm trying to identify you,
'cause I can't see you.
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- You're trying to identify me?
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- When dewitte learns why
he's being arrested,
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He goes ballistic.
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- I do not know that.
That is a firearm.
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That is a firearm right now.
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All right, jeremy,
you're being arrested
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For carrying
a concealed weapon.
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- Concealed?
It was in plain view!
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- That's not plain view.
That's concealed.
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That holster is concealing it.
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- How the--what are you
talking about?
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- Dewitte is furious
with police,
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And there seems to be
only one thing on his mind.
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- Get me a lieutenant!
Get me a lieutenant!
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It was in plain view!
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It's in plain view!
Get me a lieutenant!
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- Sit down!
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Sit down and be quiet!
Sit down!
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- Where is the lieutenant?
Where is the lieutenant?
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Where is the lieutenant?
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- But the real police don't
take kindly to his demands.
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- Get me a lieutenant.
This is not right.
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- Are you listening to me?
Are you listening to me?
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- I'm listening to you.
- I'm a deputy.
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I'm not an officer.
You don't tell me what to do.
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- I understand.
- Stop yelling at me,
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And I'm gonna stop
yelling at you!
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- Roger, officer.
- Do not yell!
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Do not raise your voice at me!
- Yes, sir.
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- Do you understand?
- I understand.
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- You've already asked
the sergeant for a lieutenant!
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You don't get to pick
and choose
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Who comes to the traffic stop!
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- Dewitte's taken
to the station
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And officially charged with
carrying a concealed weapon.
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But when it's later determined
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It was just an unloaded
pepperball gun...
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- This online identifies
as a glock--
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Basically a glock replica.
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Can you show me on here
anywhere--I mean,
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I don't know why you'd have
a light on a less-lethal--
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But can you show me
anywhere on here
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Where it gives anybody the idea
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That this is not a firearm?
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- I can't answer that.
I don't make those.
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- That it's a less-lethal?
- Sorry. I can't answer that.
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I don't--I don't make those.
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But you know
they're less lethal.
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- No, no, no, I'm asking.
- I don't know.
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- If I saw this,
I wouldn't know that.
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- That's for your [indistinct].
- Come on.
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- So you can save that
for somebody else.
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- Okay.
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- How's it going, sir?
- Good. How are you?
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- The charges are dropped.
- Wherever you want to go.
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Do you need a ride?
Where can I take you?
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- Isn't it amazing
how [bleep] nice you guys are
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When you screw up?
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Thank you. Let's go.
Come on.
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- But dewitte's far from being
out of the woods.
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Because of his recent arrest,
his current bond is revoked,
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So dewitte goes
before the judge
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To clarify the situation.
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- Your honor, I was on bond.
- Yeah.
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- They revoked my bond
with the new charge,
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But that charge was dopped.
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- Oh, you got a bunch
of different cases
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That are keeping you.
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- Right.
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- Dewitte's eventually
set free,
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With his bond back in place,
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But will still stand trial for
impersonating a police office,
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And if found guilty,
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He could be looking
at five years in prison.
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- Thank you, your honor.
Have a good day.
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- Yep.
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- Next, we're at the
fresno criminal courthouse
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For a hearing.
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31-year-old inmate
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Brandon brophy's
been charged with burglary.
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He's in this courtroom,
about to begin proceedings,
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When he decides he's not that
interested in sticking around.
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A shackled brophy doesn't get
far before a deputy tries
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To restrain him
in the hallway.
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During the struggle,
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Brophy appears to go
for the deputy's gun.
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These two bystanders decide
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They want no part
of the situation.
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Brophy's a foot taller
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And at least 50 pounds heavier
than the deputy,
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But she's determined to keep
brophy from getting away.
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Another bystander
sees the struggle,
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And unlike the two
who took off earlier,
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Bravely joins in,
helping subdue brophy,
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Helping the officer.
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Deputies and court staff
eventually rush in
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To provide backup.
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Brophy's subdued, shackled,
placed in a wheelchair,
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And wheeled back to jail.
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Brophy was arrested
and booked again
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Into the fresno county jail
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On new felony charges
of escaping jail
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In addition to the original
burglary charge.
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His bail is set at $1,693,000
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As he awaits
his next court date.
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- Next, we're in
bakersfield, california
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For the arraignment
of tobias roman.
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The 27 year old was charged
with multiple crimes,
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Including attempted robbery,
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Threatening
with intent to terrorize,
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And exhibiting
a deadly weapon
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For allegedly stalking
a female employee
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At a shopping mall.
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- Roman, stand up.
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- And now, his initial hearing
is off to a rocky start.
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- [mutters]
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- Stand up, roman.
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- Once on his feet,
the judge then asks
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A standard
procedural question.
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- Mr. Roman, what is
your true correct name?
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- Giggles may be
his street name,
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But there's nothing funny
about the crimes
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He's accused of committing.
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- At this time, I will appoint
the public defender
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To represent mr. Roman.
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The charges, mr. Roman,
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Are attempted robbery,
second degree--
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- Mr. Roman,
you need to be quiet.
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- After being interrupted
and then told to be quiet,
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Judge charles bremmer gives
the defendant a final warning.
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- You got one more chance,
and then you're gonna be
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Removed from the courtroom.
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That'll be your choice.
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- For a second, it appears
giggles might quiet down.
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But his silence
is short-lived.
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- But as he's being led out
of the courtroom,
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Roman gets in the last word.
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[tape whirs]
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- The judge heard that comment
loud and clear.
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- I'd like to note
for the record
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Mr. Roman's statement
on the record
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That he will murder me
if he sees me,
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And I'm gonna request
law enforcement
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Take the appropriate action.
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- Tobias roman later pled
no contest to the charge
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Of threatening
a public official
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And was sentenced
to eight months in prison.
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Of his original charges,
all were dismissed,
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Except for threatening
with intent to terrorize.
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He pled no contest
and was sentenced
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To three years in prison.
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- You're a vicious liar
with no remorse.
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What a monster you are.
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- Next, we're in cleveland,
ohio for a sentencing hearing.
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The defendant,
52-year-old lance mason,
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Is no stranger
to this very courtroom.
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For six years, he served here
as a cuyahoga county judge.
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But today,
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He's the one receiving
judgment for a vicious crime.
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Just minutes before police
arrived on the scene,
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Lance mason was waiting
at his sister's house
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For his ex-wife, aisha fraser,
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To arrive with their
8 and 11-year-old daughters.
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At the time,
the couple was in the middle
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Of an ongoing custody battle.
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Once at his sister's house,
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Mason violently stabbed fraser
to death outside the home.
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This police bodycam video
shows the chaos that followed.
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[suspenseful music]
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[officers shouting
indistinctly]
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- [bleep].
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It's him!
He came out of the house!
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It's him.
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Put your--put your hands up!
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- Attempting to flee
the murder scene,
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Mason crashed a black suv into
the side of a police unit.
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An officer who was exiting
the vehicle was struck
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And severely injured.
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- Put your hands up!
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Put them up!
Put them up!
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- We're back
in shaker heights, ohio,
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Where judge lance mason is
being apprehended by police,
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Who believed the judge
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Had just stabbed
his ex-wife to death.
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- Put your hands up!
Put them up!
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Put them up!
[officers yelling]
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♪ ♪
269
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- Now on foot,
mason tries to outrun police.
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- Put your hands up!
Put your hands up!
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Put your hands up!
Put your hands up!
272
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- He runs back to his sister's
house and scene of the crime.
273
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- Holy [bleep].
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- On a stairwell inside,
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Police finally catch up
with mason
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And place him under arrest.
277
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- Put your hands behind
your back. Do it now.
278
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- Get him down.
279
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- Okay.
Have a seat right here.
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- Outside, evidence of the
heinous crime comes to light.
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282
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- Mason would later
plead guilty
283
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To the aggravated murder
of his ex-wife, aisha fraser.
284
00:12:06,058 --> 00:12:07,925
He was also charged
with felonious assault
285
00:12:07,994 --> 00:12:10,728
On a police officer
for crashing his suv
286
00:12:10,797 --> 00:12:13,264
Into the officer
and his vehicle.
287
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♪ ♪
288
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Now at sentencing,
the victim's mother recounts
289
00:12:17,070 --> 00:12:20,138
Her daughter's abusive
relationship with mason.
290
00:12:20,207 --> 00:12:24,075
- Today, I confront you on
behalf of my husband and myself
291
00:12:24,277 --> 00:12:28,880
For the aggression that you
have rendered to my daughter
292
00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:32,083
And our family,
causing her to live in fear,
293
00:12:32,285 --> 00:12:37,755
And ultimately resulting in
aisha's murder at your hands.
294
00:12:37,824 --> 00:12:41,960
You're a vicious liar
with no remorse,
295
00:12:42,162 --> 00:12:44,562
Other than the fact that
you ruined your own career.
296
00:12:44,630 --> 00:12:46,898
What a monster you are.
297
00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:49,367
We ask that the courts
render a sentence of life
298
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In prison to you,
299
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Without the possibility
of parole.
300
00:12:53,306 --> 00:12:56,841
♪ ♪
301
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- Before learning
his sentence,
302
00:12:57,978 --> 00:13:03,047
Lance mason stands
to address the court.
303
00:13:03,116 --> 00:13:07,785
- I can't begin to say
or articulate how sorry I am
304
00:13:07,854 --> 00:13:12,190
About all the pain
that I've caused.
305
00:13:12,258 --> 00:13:16,261
And I'm aware of it. I accept
full responsibility for it.
306
00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:18,930
I'm ashamed.
307
00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:23,534
I know it's a betrayal
of my faith and my belief,
308
00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:25,336
And I failed my daughters.
309
00:13:25,538 --> 00:13:28,072
Every day I live,
310
00:13:28,140 --> 00:13:32,877
I know that my daughters
will go without their mother
311
00:13:32,945 --> 00:13:35,947
And their father,
and that tears me apart.
312
00:13:36,015 --> 00:13:39,284
I love those girls
more than I love my life.
313
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♪ ♪
314
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- The state and the victim's
family have asked the court
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To impose the maximum sentence
of life without parole.
316
00:13:48,094 --> 00:13:51,362
But judge john haas
has a different view.
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- You deserve
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The maximum sentence
the state requests.
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However...
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♪ ♪
321
00:14:04,911 --> 00:14:07,045
If there is something--
anything--
322
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Positive to transpire
out of this in the future,
323
00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:14,519
It's for you to make
a difference
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00:14:14,587 --> 00:14:15,786
While you are in prison,
325
00:14:15,855 --> 00:14:18,456
To help others
with your background,
326
00:14:18,658 --> 00:14:21,726
You will then be eligible
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00:14:21,794 --> 00:14:25,930
To appear
before a parole board.
328
00:14:25,999 --> 00:14:28,532
I am hopeful that
during that period of time,
329
00:14:28,602 --> 00:14:32,803
With that glimmer of hope,
330
00:14:32,873 --> 00:14:35,806
That you will
take advantage of that,
331
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:39,811
And you will in fact
make a difference
332
00:14:40,013 --> 00:14:43,881
In the lives
of those people around you.
333
00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:46,818
The court sentences you
to life in prison,
334
00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:50,755
With parole eligibility
in 30 years,
335
00:14:50,957 --> 00:14:53,491
And five years
for the felonious assault
336
00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:54,292
On a police officer.
337
00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,028
♪ ♪
338
00:14:57,230 --> 00:15:00,698
- Lance mason will be eligible
for parole in 2053,
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00:15:00,766 --> 00:15:03,434
When he would be 86 years old.
340
00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:04,702
As for the children,
341
00:15:04,771 --> 00:15:06,103
They were placed
in the custody
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00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:08,439
Of aisha fraser's best friend
and their godmother
343
00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:10,008
Per her wishes.
344
00:15:13,446 --> 00:15:14,912
The problem is,
345
00:15:14,981 --> 00:15:16,714
You don't want to play
by anybody's rules.
346
00:15:16,783 --> 00:15:19,050
You want to play
by your own rules.
347
00:15:19,252 --> 00:15:23,988
- Next, we go to berea, ohio,
for a probation hearing.
348
00:15:24,190 --> 00:15:25,857
The defendant's 18-year-old
william demopoulos.
349
00:15:26,059 --> 00:15:28,860
He's on probation
for criminal damaging,
350
00:15:28,928 --> 00:15:30,794
Unauthorized use
of a motor vehicle,
351
00:15:30,863 --> 00:15:33,731
And obstructing
official business.
352
00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,000
Things have not
started off well,
353
00:15:36,202 --> 00:15:38,936
As judge chris greene
is annoyed with demopoulos
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00:15:39,005 --> 00:15:40,537
For refusing to hand over
his cell phone
355
00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,473
To a probation officer.
356
00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:45,009
- Give me that phone!
357
00:15:45,077 --> 00:15:46,945
What's in that phone
you don't want us to find?
358
00:15:47,147 --> 00:15:48,813
- Nothing. I just didn't see
no need for you guys
359
00:15:49,015 --> 00:15:51,615
To confiscate my phone
and go through it.
360
00:15:51,684 --> 00:15:53,951
- And you play by your rules.
361
00:15:54,020 --> 00:15:57,955
You don't want to play
by anybody else's rules.
362
00:15:58,024 --> 00:15:59,824
- When the judge hands
the phone to a clerk,
363
00:15:59,892 --> 00:16:02,626
The defendant
starts to retreat.
364
00:16:02,696 --> 00:16:05,997
- Come here.
Hey, come here.
365
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,838
- If you're gonna act up...
366
00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:17,008
- Get me an officer.
Get me an officer.
367
00:16:19,312 --> 00:16:21,112
- No.
368
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:24,015
- I'm right now thinking about
charging you with resisting.
369
00:16:24,917 --> 00:16:27,986
- Stand there,
and stand like a man.
370
00:16:28,855 --> 00:16:30,722
- Then you're gonna
go to jail today.
371
00:16:30,924 --> 00:16:32,790
- Sounds like this teen
is willing
372
00:16:32,859 --> 00:16:35,126
To give up his freedom
for a phone.
373
00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:39,998
- What did we talk about with
regard to following the rules?
374
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:44,468
- And they told you
to give them the phone.
375
00:16:44,537 --> 00:16:45,936
- I don't know why.
376
00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:49,073
- The judge breaks it down
for demopoulos.
377
00:16:49,141 --> 00:16:50,208
- When you are on probation,
your probation officer
378
00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:55,213
Has the right to take anything
they want to take of yours.
379
00:16:55,281 --> 00:16:57,215
If they want to search your
phone, they search your phone.
380
00:16:57,283 --> 00:17:00,684
The problem is you don't want
to play by anybody's rules.
381
00:17:00,754 --> 00:17:02,753
You want to play
by your own rules.
382
00:17:02,822 --> 00:17:04,822
- It's not like that,
your honor.
383
00:17:04,890 --> 00:17:06,424
- Getting nowhere,
the defendant
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00:17:06,493 --> 00:17:08,993
Changes his story.
385
00:17:09,629 --> 00:17:11,996
- Whose cell phone is it?
386
00:17:12,899 --> 00:17:14,631
- Then why didn't you
tell them that?
387
00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:15,766
I need him handcuffed, please.
388
00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:18,035
- Even with deputies
closing in,
389
00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:21,238
Demopoulos doesn't seem
interested in cooperating.
390
00:17:21,307 --> 00:17:25,976
♪ ♪
391
00:17:26,045 --> 00:17:28,846
As quickly as demopoulos
hops over the table,
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00:17:28,915 --> 00:17:31,248
The deputies tackle him
to the floor.
393
00:17:31,317 --> 00:17:37,989
♪ ♪
394
00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,001
- That's the defendant's
grandfather looking on.
395
00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:01,012
- It's like this because
you make it like this.
396
00:18:03,482 --> 00:18:04,015
[tape whirs]
397
00:18:06,286 --> 00:18:07,952
♪ ♪
398
00:18:08,021 --> 00:18:09,954
- My problem is I can't have
someone on probation
399
00:18:10,023 --> 00:18:11,989
If they won't listen
to their probation officer.
400
00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:18,428
- Man, he's kind of like
a little cat.
401
00:18:18,498 --> 00:18:20,231
- Yeah, he jumped.
402
00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:21,365
- Yeah.
403
00:18:21,434 --> 00:18:23,834
- The judge revokes
the defendant's probation,
404
00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:26,637
And he's charged
with resisting arrest.
405
00:18:26,706 --> 00:18:29,173
He's sent to jail for 40 days.
406
00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:32,510
Joining us now is the judge
you saw there from the back,
407
00:18:32,579 --> 00:18:33,911
Judge christopher greene.
408
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:34,912
Judge greene, thanks very much
for joining us.
409
00:18:34,981 --> 00:18:38,115
Appreciate it.
So take us back to that day.
410
00:18:38,184 --> 00:18:42,119
What were you expecting
as the proceedings started?
411
00:18:42,188 --> 00:18:44,721
- Well, you know, as a judge,
I think the one thing--
412
00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:46,924
You can never have
an actual day
413
00:18:46,992 --> 00:18:49,660
Where you expect things
to go just simply.
414
00:18:49,729 --> 00:18:51,128
You do sometimes
have those days.
415
00:18:51,197 --> 00:18:53,998
I didn't expect the guy
to jump on the table, though,
416
00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:56,467
And try to take off
out of the courtroom.
417
00:18:56,669 --> 00:18:58,068
- Now, did you know him?
418
00:18:58,137 --> 00:18:59,670
Did you know anything about him
before this started?
419
00:18:59,872 --> 00:19:01,872
- I did not know him
personally.
420
00:19:01,941 --> 00:19:03,674
And if I'm not mistaken,
this might have been
421
00:19:03,743 --> 00:19:05,008
Either the first or second time
422
00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:08,679
He was in front of me
while he was on probation.
423
00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:09,813
- Had you ever had anyone try
424
00:19:09,882 --> 00:19:10,748
And run out
of your courtroom before?
425
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:13,016
- Yeah, we've--I mean,
an escape case
426
00:19:13,085 --> 00:19:15,686
Is not an unusual case,
even in a municipal court,
427
00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:17,755
Like mine,
where we're handling
428
00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:19,157
With mostly
misdemeanor things.
429
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,693
So yeah, we've had people that
have fled the court before.
430
00:19:22,762 --> 00:19:23,761
Some are good at it,
and escape,
431
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:26,496
And some are bad it,
and don't escape.
432
00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:27,965
- Now, at one point,
433
00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:31,702
You instruct the court officers
to handcuff him.
434
00:19:31,771 --> 00:19:32,836
- I need him handcuffed,
please.
435
00:19:32,906 --> 00:19:34,572
- What were you thinking
at that moment?
436
00:19:34,641 --> 00:19:36,840
- I'm thinking, at any time,
437
00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:39,643
When I'm going to
hold somebody in contempt
438
00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:41,912
Or put a jail sentence on them,
439
00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:44,048
There is always
that opportunity for them
440
00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:46,516
To go out--I mean,
the impulse sometimes for them
441
00:19:46,586 --> 00:19:48,052
Is to fly out of control,
442
00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,388
To try to get away from what
they're about to face.
443
00:19:51,457 --> 00:19:52,256
Come here.
Hey.
444
00:19:52,325 --> 00:19:54,458
♪ ♪
445
00:19:54,527 --> 00:19:56,928
- Get--what are you--
446
00:19:57,130 --> 00:19:59,597
Get off me, man. No, man.
This is not right, man.
447
00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:01,131
I'm telling you it's not right.
448
00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:04,602
- So routinely, I think most
judges would instruct them
449
00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:07,271
To handcuff the individual
450
00:20:07,339 --> 00:20:11,475
To help impede them from being
able to get out of our control.
451
00:20:11,678 --> 00:20:12,743
Judge christopher greene,
452
00:20:12,812 --> 00:20:13,477
Thanks so much
for taking the time.
453
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,745
We really appreciate it.
454
00:20:14,813 --> 00:20:16,480
- Dan, thank you
for having me on.
455
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:17,948
It's been my pleasure.
456
00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:19,817
- That's it for this edition
of "courtcam."
457
00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:22,219
I'm dan abrams.
Thanks for watching.
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♪ ♪