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- Jump.

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Hey.

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DIRECTOR
And cut! Back to one.

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I'm still not entirely sure
how to. -

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You'll wake up very sore
tomorrow, I would say. Yeah.

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The volume's on. You'll be
able to hear everything.

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Um, so it's just gonna be
this one here.

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Oh, yes,
maybe you were a bit down.

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But if you turn that up there,
then you'll be able to hear.

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And then all you have to do is,
like, press in to speak.

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You'll get the hang of it.
It's pretty easy.

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I really want to.

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But, you know...

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You're scared.

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Anyone would be.

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Do you really think
speaking out might stop him?

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I think it's really important

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for voters to have this
information as they determine

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whether he's fit
to be president.

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What if he decides to sue?

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Would The New York Times
be willing to help me?

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News organizations
can't provide legal support.

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You'd be on your own.

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Hi, Rachel?

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And you're definitely going
to write about Jessica Leeds?

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Jessica is absolutely on board,
a hundred percent.

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Okay.

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I'll do it.

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I'll go on the record
and say what he did to me.

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You will? That's great, Rachel.

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Thank you.

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NEWSMAN in New Hampshire,

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asking voters there to reelect,
uh, the, uh, Republican senator

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as a check and balance.

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Violet, uh, no.

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Baby, Mommy's got to go to work.
- Mommy, Mommy.

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You're gonna stay
with Daddy, okay?

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Violet, Violet,
Mom's gonna go to work.

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Come on.
Let's go see your animals.

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- Come on.
- Talia, you're my hero.

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Want to show me your elephant?

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WOMAN Well, I know that

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it's an amuse-bouche,
but, I mean, that's quite

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an unorthodox approach.
Isn't that right?

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MAN It's really
simple. Um, I always put...

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MAN We didn't find
any evidence of evil intent.

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You can't obstruct
justice there.

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Morning, Jodi.

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WOMAN But, you know, we know

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where minorities are.

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They might not be
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four years ago,
but we know where they are.

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We know where young people are.

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We know, uh, where,
uh, uh, single people are.

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- Were you sick again?

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Yeah.

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It's meant to stop
after the first trimester.

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You should probably
get some sleep.

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Mm.

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Mm.

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I will, as soon as
I get a response.

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From Trump's people?

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What happens
if they don't respond?

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They will, but we can't publish
until they do.

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- Hello?

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TRUMP Is this Megan Twohey?

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Yes, Mr. Trump.

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I do not know these women.
They are lying.

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And if I did something to them,

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why didn't they go
to the police?

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Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks
didn't ever say

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that they knew you, just that
they were chance encounters.

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The New York Times
has concocted these stories,

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and if you publish them,
I will sue.

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What about the leaked
Access Hollywood tape?

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Do you do those things?

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I don't do it.

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I don't do it.
It was locker-room talk.

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And, Mr. Trump, Miss Utah, she
claimed you forcibly kissed her

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more than once when you owned
the Miss America pageant.

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She's lying. You are disgusting.

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You are a disgusting
human being.

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Several women speaking out,

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accusing Donald Trump of
touching them inappropriately.

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Jessica Leeds and Rachel Crooks

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telling The New York Times
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groped or kissed by Trump
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For a company
located in Trump Tower,

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claims the billionaire
kissed her on the cheeks

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and the mouth.

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Oh, my God.

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Fuck. Rachel, I'm so sorry.

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RACHEL I went
on the record, you published,

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- and this is what happened.

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Yeah, I'm so sorry.

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I was prepared,
you know? But not for this.

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An envelope full of shit?

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Was there anything
written on it?

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No. What can I do?

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- Oh, yeah, fuck.
- I can't even leave the house.

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Well, you-you need to
write everything down.

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Tape any conversations
or voice mails.

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You need to document
any threats that you get...

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- Megan Twohey?
- Yeah. That's us.

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I can't even imagine...
Shit. Rachel, I'm sorry.

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I have to go.
I'll call you back, I promise.

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Rachel?

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I'm calling from
Bill O'Reilly at Fox News.

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Are you a feminist?

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Are you fucking kidding me?!

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I'm sorry. Hi. Hi.

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The final push

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- till Election Day.

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And as Hillary Clinton
and Donald Trump...

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Oh. Bill O'Reilly's
talking about you.

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O'REILLY
The Factor asked Miss Twohey

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to appear this evening.

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She declined, no surprise.

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This is a tough forum.

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She and Mr. Barbaro
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friendly to
liberal points of view.

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We asked Miss Twohey
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both on the phone
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She declined to answer
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I'm gonna go get some noodles.

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But here's what she said
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MEGAN You know,
our story is the experience

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of many women,
going back over the years.

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Hello?

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MAN I am going
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and dump your body
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This night is turning out to be

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a real nail-biter.

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CNN can report that

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Hillary Clinton
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to concede the race.

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The winner
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CNN projects Donald Trump
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NEWSWOMAN
Breaking news on Bill O'Reilly.

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Let's go to Julia Boorstin.
Julia.

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BOORSTIN That's right.

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Fox has just announced
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saying, quote, "After
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"of the allegations,
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"have agreed that Bill O'Reilly
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to the Fox News Channel."

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of The O'Reilly Factor
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of sexual harassment allegations

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and the report that
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spent about $13 million

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to settle those allegations
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- So, the story...
- Job well done, Emily.

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Thanks, Dean.

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And you, Mike.
Excellent reporting.

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Not be returning
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Are we talking solely
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No, we're talking all workplaces

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where sexual harassment
might happen.

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Also, let's look
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Fox kept O'Reilly on

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for quite some time
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And for decades before that.

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The network only ousted him

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when the advertisers
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Let's interrogate
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Why is sexual harassment
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and so hard to address?

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Hey, do you guys have a minute?

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Sure.

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So, I spoke to Shaunna Thomas,

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the head of UltraViolet,
a feminist group.

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She said the wrongdoing
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She's in touch with an actress,
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who has tweeted about
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Thomas says
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and that McGowan is
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Wasn't he charged with
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Ambra Battilana Gutierrez,
an Italian model.

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She claimed Weinstein groped her
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The NYPD investigated it,
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Talk to Rose McGowan.

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Try to talk to other actresses
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Yeah. And I'll try
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Hi. My name is Jodi Kantor.

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I'm an investigative reporter
for The New York Times.

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We're looking into sexual
harassment in the workplace.

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I believe you were
an employee at Miramax

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and worked for Harvey Weinstein
in the '90s.

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WOMAN Are you recording this?

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without your permission.

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But in your time as an
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any instances
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treated women inappropriately
or crossed a line?

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Did Harvey cross a line?

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Would you like to hear
her heartbeat?

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- Yeah.
- Mm-hmm.

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Mary, thanks so much
for calling me back.

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MARY Who have you talked to?

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I can't tell you names, just as
I would never divulge yours,

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but if you wanted to share
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that would be so helpful.

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I don't think
people will want to talk.

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Sorry.

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Ms. Godrèche, thank you
so much for responding.

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Before you continue,

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I've talked about Weinstein
in the past, but it's private.

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My immigration lawyer does not
want me to be involved.

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Involved in what?

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- ROSE Hello?
- Oh, hi, Rose.

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Um, this is Jodi Kantor
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I wrote you an email.

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Shaunna Thomas suggested
you might be willing to have

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a conversation with me
about Hollywood,

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and specifically
Harvey Weinstein.

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- Are you writing about him?
- Yes, I am.

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Look, I don't feel that inclined
to talk to you about it.

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Could I ask why not?

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I've been treated quite shabbily

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by your paper numerous times,

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and I believe
the root of it is sexism.

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I'm sorry
that was your experience.

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I've talked in the past,
and nothing happened.

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I spoke at
a political meeting recently,

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and The New York Times
put it in the Style section.

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It does damage to shout,
and no one listens.

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I'm investigating
systemic sexism in Hollywood.

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How many pages have you got?

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No.

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I put myself on the line before,

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and it made no difference.

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I've written about the
workplace at Amazon, Starbucks

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and Harvard Business School,
and change did happen.

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They reformed their policies

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as a direct result
of the Times articles.

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But if you don't want to talk,
I understand.

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And good luck with your book.

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Thank you. Goodbye.

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I spoke to Dad.

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He sounded worse.

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I got to go see him soon.

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Could you go for a long weekend?

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You could take the girls.

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I could take Talia
but not both of them.

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I'm having an affair.

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With a very famous actress.

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You want her number?

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- She's so hot.

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This looks beautiful.

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- You'd really like her.

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"I am a nasty woman.

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"I'm not as nasty

256
00:15:35,726 --> 00:15:39,688
as using little girls like
Pokémon before their bodies..."

257
00:15:39,689 --> 00:15:42,066
- Is that Ashley Judd?
- Yeah.

258
00:15:43,067 --> 00:15:45,026
She wrote about
being sexually harassed

259
00:15:45,027 --> 00:15:46,987
by a producer in the '90s.

260
00:15:46,988 --> 00:15:50,782
She doesn't name him,
but she describes him as

261
00:15:50,783 --> 00:15:54,619
"one of our industry's most
famous admired/reviled bosses."

262
00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,163
Mm.

263
00:15:56,164 --> 00:15:58,874
"sexual assault, transphobia,

264
00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:01,751
"white supremacy, misogyny,

265
00:16:01,752 --> 00:16:04,129
- ignorance, white privilege."

266
00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:06,089
- I'll go.
- I'll get her.

267
00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:09,301
Mom!

268
00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:11,554
- We'll both go.
- Yeah.

269
00:16:12,722 --> 00:16:15,224
I don't know if I can do this.

270
00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,604
You need to rest.

271
00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:23,316
You try to sleep, maybe?

272
00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:26,694
I don't want to be...

273
00:16:28,029 --> 00:16:30,531
I just have
this constant sense of dread.

274
00:16:31,908 --> 00:16:33,825
You're tired.

275
00:16:33,826 --> 00:16:35,995
Your body's exhausted.

276
00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:40,666
I think I would know
if it was just that.

277
00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:47,882
- Mom.

278
00:16:55,973 --> 00:16:57,140
Hello?

279
00:16:57,141 --> 00:16:58,975
ROSE It's Rose.

280
00:16:58,976 --> 00:17:01,561
- McGowan.
- Rose, hi.

281
00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:04,231
It's not just him
you should be after.

282
00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:07,442
There's an entire machine,
a supply chain.

283
00:17:07,443 --> 00:17:09,986
Of abusers in Hollywood?

284
00:17:09,987 --> 00:17:11,029
Right.

285
00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:12,530
They're worldwide,

286
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:16,243
wherever movies are
being made or sold.

287
00:17:16,244 --> 00:17:19,204
Each studio does
the victim-shaming and payouts.

288
00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:23,376
If white men could have
a playground, this would be it.

289
00:17:25,503 --> 00:17:27,796
Do people know about it?

290
00:17:27,797 --> 00:17:29,422
Of course.

291
00:17:29,423 --> 00:17:32,968
I told a lot of people
what happened to me.

292
00:17:32,969 --> 00:17:35,387
At the Sundance Film Festival?

293
00:17:35,388 --> 00:17:39,557
I was 23. I was doing all these
brilliant independent films.

294
00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:41,936
I was just incredibly hopeful.

295
00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:44,981
And then I went to that hotel room.
- Hi.

296
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,818
Talia?

297
00:17:49,819 --> 00:17:51,236
- I'm here.

298
00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:53,738
He was on a sofa,

299
00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:56,366
talking loudly on his phone.

300
00:17:56,367 --> 00:17:57,701
I waited.

301
00:17:57,702 --> 00:17:59,744
And then
we talked about projects,

302
00:17:59,745 --> 00:18:05,667
and he suddenly said,
"I have a Jacuzzi in my room."

303
00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:08,086
I didn't know
what the answer to that was,

304
00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:10,965
so I just kept talking.

305
00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,051
We wrapped up,
and he said he'd walk me out,

306
00:18:15,052 --> 00:18:18,388
and I thought,
"Well, that went well."

307
00:18:18,389 --> 00:18:20,974
It was my first big meeting.

308
00:18:20,975 --> 00:18:24,894
He walked behind me
down a hallway, then he said,

309
00:18:24,895 --> 00:18:27,605
"This is the Jacuzzi room."

310
00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:32,277
And I looked in,
and he pushed me inside.

311
00:18:32,278 --> 00:18:38,658
He stripped me,
and he was suddenly naked.

312
00:18:38,659 --> 00:18:41,746
I left my body in some way.

313
00:18:42,747 --> 00:18:44,623
And he raped me.

314
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:51,212
I went into survival mode to
get out, and I faked an orgasm.

315
00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:53,548
He told me to get dressed.

316
00:18:53,549 --> 00:18:57,135
He left me messages telling me
I was his new special friend

317
00:18:57,136 --> 00:19:01,097
and that he'd done a lot
for other actresses.

318
00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:03,016
Did you report it?

319
00:19:03,017 --> 00:19:06,312
Can you see the law
taking my side on that?

320
00:19:08,981 --> 00:19:11,107
But you told other people?

321
00:19:11,108 --> 00:19:15,153
I told a lot of people,
and nobody did a thing.

322
00:19:15,154 --> 00:19:16,864
Nothing.

323
00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:22,077
Can I contact
the people you told?

324
00:19:22,078 --> 00:19:24,288
You told me this was private.

325
00:19:25,331 --> 00:19:29,417
He'll have spies
watching you now, as we speak.

326
00:19:29,418 --> 00:19:31,629
I hope you know that.

327
00:19:57,571 --> 00:19:59,030
Hello?

328
00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:00,698
JODI Hey, Megan,
this is Jodi Kantor.

329
00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,534
Is this a bad time?

330
00:20:02,535 --> 00:20:04,536
Uh... um, no.

331
00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:06,454
- It's fine.

332
00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:07,831
Oh, I hear her.

333
00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:10,500
How's it all going?

334
00:20:10,501 --> 00:20:13,044
Yeah, it's, um...

335
00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:15,214
I just got her down.

336
00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:19,175
It's the toughest part, I think.

337
00:20:19,176 --> 00:20:20,510
Is it?

338
00:20:20,511 --> 00:20:22,679
I found it to be so.

339
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,434
With my first daughter,
I had postpartum depression.

340
00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:30,353
Everyone's so excited,

341
00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:32,939
and it's like...

342
00:20:32,940 --> 00:20:34,525
you're just not there.

343
00:20:35,943 --> 00:20:37,611
Right.

344
00:20:39,822 --> 00:20:42,157
So, I got your email.

345
00:20:42,158 --> 00:20:43,408
How's it all going?

346
00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:45,743
Yeah.

347
00:20:45,744 --> 00:20:50,582
I feel like there are
a lot of women who have...

348
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:53,419
been through something with him.

349
00:20:54,336 --> 00:20:57,255
But they find it hard to talk.

350
00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:02,343
And those who do talk to me
don't want to go on the record.

351
00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:04,721
In your previous stories,

352
00:21:04,722 --> 00:21:06,764
how did you persuade women
to tell you

353
00:21:06,765 --> 00:21:08,434
what had happened to them?

354
00:21:10,311 --> 00:21:13,062
Yeah, so...

355
00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:14,606
It's difficult.

356
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:17,066
They're terrified.

357
00:21:17,067 --> 00:21:19,152
A case I made was,

358
00:21:19,153 --> 00:21:23,490
"You know, I can't change what
happened to you in the past,

359
00:21:23,491 --> 00:21:27,160
"but together we may be able
to use your experience

360
00:21:27,161 --> 00:21:30,079
to help protect other people."

361
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,291
The truth, basically.

362
00:21:33,292 --> 00:21:34,626
But yeah.

363
00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:38,797
It's hard to ask women to talk.

364
00:21:56,106 --> 00:21:59,025
Then he asked me to meet him,

365
00:21:59,026 --> 00:22:00,652
uh, really early.

366
00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:04,447
And I had been up all night
filming, and I was tired.

367
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:07,700
I went over to The Peninsula
Hotel, and at reception,

368
00:22:07,701 --> 00:22:10,286
I asked, "Is Mr. Weinstein
in The Belvedere restaurant

369
00:22:10,287 --> 00:22:11,663
or is he on the patio?"

370
00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:15,458
And they said, "Go to his room."

371
00:22:15,459 --> 00:22:18,503
And I went upstairs,

372
00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:21,798
and Harvey was in his bathrobe.

373
00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:25,218
And he asked if
he could give me a massage.

374
00:22:25,219 --> 00:22:28,221
"No," I said.

375
00:22:28,222 --> 00:22:30,139
And then, um, he asked me

376
00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:32,308
to help him pick out
his clothes for the day.

377
00:22:32,309 --> 00:22:36,604
He, you know, started asking
for all these things,

378
00:22:36,605 --> 00:22:39,732
increasingly more sexual,
getting closer and closer.

379
00:22:39,733 --> 00:22:43,027
And I just said no
so many different times

380
00:22:43,028 --> 00:22:45,738
and in so many different ways.

381
00:22:45,739 --> 00:22:50,285
And then he finally, um, asked
me to watch him take a shower.

382
00:22:50,286 --> 00:22:53,204
And I said, "Harvey,

383
00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:57,875
"when I win an Academy Award
in a Miramax movie,

384
00:22:57,876 --> 00:22:59,752
I will give you a blow job."

385
00:22:59,753 --> 00:23:02,255
And I got out of there fast.

386
00:23:02,256 --> 00:23:03,715
What did you do?

387
00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:06,342
I told my dad, I told my agent,

388
00:23:06,343 --> 00:23:09,012
I told the people with whom
I was filming that night,

389
00:23:09,013 --> 00:23:10,763
and Harvey punished me.

390
00:23:10,764 --> 00:23:13,016
I mean, he blackballed my career

391
00:23:13,017 --> 00:23:15,268
because I had the wherewithal
to refuse him.

392
00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:16,728
How do you know that?

393
00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:18,438
I would be standing
with other actresses,

394
00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:19,689
and he would blank me.

395
00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:21,899
There were roles
for which I was up

396
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:23,651
that I mysteriously did not get,

397
00:23:23,652 --> 00:23:26,237
and I know today that it was
Harvey making a phone call.

398
00:23:26,238 --> 00:23:30,533
You know I did an article about
it, and nobody did anything.

399
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:33,661
You didn't identify him,
but did industry people know

400
00:23:33,662 --> 00:23:35,663
who you were talking about
in your article?

401
00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:37,123
Absolutely.

402
00:23:37,124 --> 00:23:40,209
And the abuse came raining down
on me, not on him.

403
00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:41,502
You know at the Women's March

404
00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:43,296
when I did
the "Nasty Woman" poem?

405
00:23:43,297 --> 00:23:46,215
I lost a huge advertising gig
because a small group of people

406
00:23:46,216 --> 00:23:49,260
complained that I was
quoting the president.

407
00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:51,721
He used that language
and got elected.

408
00:23:51,722 --> 00:23:54,599
I quoted him, and I got fired.

409
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,685
It is decades later,
and it's still the same sexism.

410
00:23:57,686 --> 00:24:01,230
And, Jodi, I would make
the same choices all over again,

411
00:24:01,231 --> 00:24:03,651
but I also would like to work.

412
00:24:06,987 --> 00:24:09,614
Lisa Bloom, the lawyer,
she wrote to me.

413
00:24:09,615 --> 00:24:11,324
- Gloria Allred's daughter?
- Yeah.

414
00:24:11,325 --> 00:24:12,992
- Do you know her?
- No.

415
00:24:12,993 --> 00:24:14,702
But I assume she wants to help.

416
00:24:14,703 --> 00:24:16,455
I forwarded the email to Emily.

417
00:24:17,748 --> 00:24:19,207
I'm looking at it right now.

418
00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:21,919
Yeah.
This is straight from legal.

419
00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:26,172
Jodi? Lisa Bloom.

420
00:24:26,173 --> 00:24:27,590
"Big announcement:

421
00:24:27,591 --> 00:24:29,676
"My book, Suspicion Nation,
is being produced

422
00:24:29,677 --> 00:24:32,345
by Harvey Weinstein and Jay-Z."

423
00:24:32,346 --> 00:24:35,014
Weinstein is producing her book?

424
00:24:35,015 --> 00:24:38,017
Lisa Bloom,
daughter of feminist icon,

425
00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:40,103
is working with
Harvey Weinstein.

426
00:24:40,104 --> 00:24:41,896
But why would she do that?

427
00:24:41,897 --> 00:24:43,856
How much do you get paid
for a miniseries?

428
00:24:43,857 --> 00:24:46,734
He's got to be behind
Lisa reaching out to you.

429
00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:49,488
So Weinstein knows
what we're doing.

430
00:24:57,496 --> 00:24:59,081
Sorry.

431
00:25:02,084 --> 00:25:04,961
Do you want
to keep going with Trump?

432
00:25:04,962 --> 00:25:08,006
Or you could join Jodi
and look into Harvey Weinstein.

433
00:25:11,093 --> 00:25:14,721
I worry about
whether it makes a difference.

434
00:25:14,722 --> 00:25:16,806
These women spoke out
against Trump,

435
00:25:16,807 --> 00:25:18,307
and he still became president.

436
00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:20,935
But in the wake of O'Reilly,
there's possibility.

437
00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:22,813
- Sorry.

438
00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:26,191
Craig. I've been trying
to reach you.

439
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:29,736
You've got to show up.

440
00:25:29,737 --> 00:25:31,863
How's your daughter?

441
00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,116
She's great.

442
00:25:35,284 --> 00:25:37,702
Oh, s... um...

443
00:25:37,703 --> 00:25:39,370
Sorry. I, um...

444
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:43,292
Thank you
for the gift you, um...

445
00:25:44,084 --> 00:25:46,210
Is anything bothering you?

446
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,756
Besides no sleep
and diapers everywhere.

447
00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:52,468
Are you okay?

448
00:25:54,636 --> 00:25:57,680
I found it quite...

449
00:25:57,681 --> 00:26:00,057
difficult.

450
00:26:00,058 --> 00:26:01,893
I'm sorry.

451
00:26:01,894 --> 00:26:03,644
Will working help?

452
00:26:03,645 --> 00:26:06,272
Yeah. Yeah.

453
00:26:06,273 --> 00:26:07,690
Absolutely.

454
00:26:07,691 --> 00:26:09,193
It's better now.

455
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:19,410
Megan.

456
00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:21,079
Hey.

457
00:26:34,343 --> 00:26:37,303
Are they all famous?

458
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:38,722
Most of them, yes.

459
00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:42,266
I guess my question
is just, like:

460
00:26:42,267 --> 00:26:44,519
Is this the best use
of our time?

461
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,895
Like, as opposed to

462
00:26:45,896 --> 00:26:48,898
other people we could
potentially be covering.

463
00:26:48,899 --> 00:26:52,443
People who can't speak out.
Actresses already have a voice.

464
00:26:52,444 --> 00:26:54,403
But they could also fear
being punished

465
00:26:54,404 --> 00:26:56,447
by the film industry
for using it.

466
00:26:56,448 --> 00:26:58,783
Sure.

467
00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:02,119
But what is it exactly
that we're looking at here?

468
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:05,791
We're looking at extreme sexual
harassment in the workplace.

469
00:27:06,750 --> 00:27:08,626
These young women walked into

470
00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:10,711
what they all had reason to
believe were business meetings

471
00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:12,630
with a producer, an employer.

472
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,257
They were hopeful.

473
00:27:14,258 --> 00:27:16,467
They were expecting a serious
conversation about their work

474
00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:18,094
or a possible project.

475
00:27:18,095 --> 00:27:22,014
Instead, they say he met them
with threats and sexual demands.

476
00:27:22,015 --> 00:27:24,642
They claim assault and rape.

477
00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:26,936
If that can happen
to Hollywood actresses,

478
00:27:26,937 --> 00:27:29,106
who else is it happening to?

479
00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,441
Do you think his employees
were targeted, too?

480
00:27:32,442 --> 00:27:34,862
I do.

481
00:27:37,114 --> 00:27:41,659
I could search for any police
complaints against Miramax.

482
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:44,162
Or court records.

483
00:27:45,038 --> 00:27:46,623
Should I?

484
00:27:47,541 --> 00:27:49,292
Yes.

485
00:27:49,293 --> 00:27:50,835
I found records of a complaint

486
00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:53,212
against Miramax from 2001,

487
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:56,632
but the report was closed out
the same day it was made.

488
00:27:56,633 --> 00:27:59,302
It says, "complainant elected
court action,"

489
00:27:59,303 --> 00:28:01,262
but then
no court documents exist,

490
00:28:01,263 --> 00:28:02,805
which seems inconsistent.

491
00:28:02,806 --> 00:28:05,683
Do you have
any more information on that?

492
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:07,101
WOMAN No, those records

493
00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:09,395
would have been destroyed.

494
00:28:09,396 --> 00:28:10,855
Really? Why?

495
00:28:10,856 --> 00:28:12,481
It's agency policy.

496
00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:15,818
All records are destroyed
after three years.

497
00:28:15,819 --> 00:28:17,570
Why is that?

498
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:20,866
As I said, it's policy.

499
00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:23,284
So could you please tell me

500
00:28:23,285 --> 00:28:26,203
who filed the
sexual harassment complaint?

501
00:28:26,204 --> 00:28:28,915
No, I cannot.

502
00:28:28,916 --> 00:28:31,584
- Because?
- It's policy.

503
00:28:31,585 --> 00:28:34,879
We are prohibited
from giving you that name.

504
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,423
Is that everything?

505
00:28:37,424 --> 00:28:39,216
This is very important.

506
00:28:39,217 --> 00:28:42,511
It's about someone who's still
very powerful in the workplace.

507
00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:45,139
Who could still be
harassing someone.

508
00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,684
Is there any way
you can help me?

509
00:28:51,188 --> 00:28:53,814
You could ask me the name
of the government investigator

510
00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:55,691
who was assigned the case.

511
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:58,486
I could give you
that information.

512
00:28:58,487 --> 00:29:00,572
- Just a name.
- Thank you.

513
00:29:02,115 --> 00:29:05,535
I've made 20 calls
to track this investigator.

514
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,580
What did Lisa Bloom say?

515
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:13,751
She just talked as though
he was kind of naughty.

516
00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:16,045
She was talking to me
kind of Jew-to-Jew

517
00:29:16,046 --> 00:29:18,506
and including Weinstein
in the gang.

518
00:29:18,507 --> 00:29:20,257
Oh.

519
00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:24,720
I had a long conversation with
Lena Dunham and Jenni Konner.

520
00:29:24,721 --> 00:29:27,473
They want to help,
and they have so many numbers.

521
00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:29,183
Amazing.

522
00:29:29,184 --> 00:29:30,601
Did you know them before?

523
00:29:30,602 --> 00:29:32,770
I don't know anyone.

524
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,689
- In April, when I started...

525
00:29:34,690 --> 00:29:36,691
- Mm.
- I was literally leaving...

526
00:29:36,692 --> 00:29:38,651
It's the investigator.

527
00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:39,944
Hi. This is Megan Twohey.

528
00:29:39,945 --> 00:29:41,404
Thank you
for getting back to me.

529
00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:43,823
MAN
Sure. How can I help?

530
00:29:43,824 --> 00:29:45,449
Do you remember the case?

531
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:47,576
There are hundreds
of sexual harassment cases

532
00:29:47,577 --> 00:29:49,495
at that agency.

533
00:29:49,496 --> 00:29:50,955
This one was brought to you,

534
00:29:50,956 --> 00:29:53,624
and then it was closed
very quickly.

535
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,085
That's not unusual.

536
00:29:56,086 --> 00:29:59,463
It was filed against Miramax.

537
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:02,092
What's Miramax?

538
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:07,346
Harvey, I've read
the thorough reports,

539
00:30:07,347 --> 00:30:11,684
and Rose comes across as
a disturbed, pathological liar.

540
00:30:11,685 --> 00:30:14,770
Clearly, she must be stopped
in her ridiculous,

541
00:30:14,771 --> 00:30:16,605
defamatory attacks on you.

542
00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:18,024
She is dangerous.

543
00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:19,859
You are right to be concerned.

544
00:30:19,860 --> 00:30:23,946
I feel equipped to help you
against the Roses of the world

545
00:30:23,947 --> 00:30:27,074
because I have represented
so many of them.

546
00:30:27,075 --> 00:30:29,827
I'd like to meet with you
to go over this in some detail.

547
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:33,622
You should be the hero
of the story, not the villain.

548
00:30:33,623 --> 00:30:35,792
Best, Lisa Bloom.

549
00:30:36,585 --> 00:30:38,461
I'm trying to get ahold
of this assistant

550
00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:41,590
who worked at Miramax
in her early 20s.

551
00:30:42,632 --> 00:30:44,675
One day, she just disappeared.

552
00:30:44,676 --> 00:30:47,595
All she left are her
running shoes under the table.

553
00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:49,221
I haven't been able
to find her yet,

554
00:30:49,222 --> 00:30:50,473
but her mother lives in Queens.

555
00:30:50,474 --> 00:30:53,517
I thought I'd just show up.

556
00:31:31,181 --> 00:31:32,223
Hi.

557
00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:35,184
- Hello.
- Hi.

558
00:31:35,185 --> 00:31:38,104
I was expecting your mother.

559
00:31:38,105 --> 00:31:39,897
Oh, I'll go get her.
Who should I say...

560
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:43,443
No, it's... it's actually...
You're the one I wanted to see.

561
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,237
Excuse me?

562
00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,197
My name is Megan Twohey.

563
00:31:48,198 --> 00:31:50,826
I am an investigative reporter
for The New York Times.

564
00:31:52,577 --> 00:31:54,036
Would it be okay if...

565
00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:55,705
Go back upstairs.
Go see Abuelita.

566
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:07,884
Could we talk for a minute?

567
00:32:08,885 --> 00:32:10,637
About your time at Miramax?

568
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,600
I can't believe you found me.

569
00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:19,521
I've been waiting for this
for 25 years.

570
00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:24,525
I would, I would love the chance

571
00:32:24,526 --> 00:32:27,404
to ask you a couple questions.

572
00:32:29,656 --> 00:32:31,949
What do you know?

573
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:36,078
That you were at
the beginning of your career

574
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:37,497
and doing well.

575
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:41,543
And that something happened.

576
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,173
And then you disappeared.

577
00:32:48,133 --> 00:32:51,720
And that your father
threatened legal action.

578
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:06,735
All I can tell you is that...

579
00:33:08,153 --> 00:33:12,782
I had a business dispute
with Miramax.

580
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,660
It was resolved.

581
00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:18,996
Amicably.

582
00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:21,583
And we've agreed
not to discuss it.

583
00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,378
I'm...

584
00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:28,423
I'm so glad to meet you anyway.

585
00:33:33,386 --> 00:33:35,013
- So...

586
00:33:35,847 --> 00:33:38,433
it was resolved?

587
00:33:39,309 --> 00:33:41,937
Yeah. It was.

588
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:53,906
There are women
who have had settlements,

589
00:33:53,907 --> 00:33:56,533
and they're bound to silence,

590
00:33:56,534 --> 00:33:59,162
but we have written around them.

591
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:02,790
There are ways to report
around that restriction.

592
00:34:02,791 --> 00:34:05,752
The source can remain anonymous.

593
00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:12,300
I should go back in.

594
00:34:16,346 --> 00:34:18,389
Look, I'm-I'm sorry.

595
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:20,599
I've thrown a curveball into
your trip to see your mother,

596
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,559
and, uh, I don't want
to keep you from your family,

597
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,773
but would it be okay if I...
if I gave you my number?

598
00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:31,819
She was terrified, Jodi,
but she wants to talk.

599
00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:33,195
She really does.

600
00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:35,739
JODI
Really? That's incredible.

601
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:39,159
Listen, Gwyneth Paltrow called,
and she told me about

602
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,328
an incident
at The Peninsula Hotel.

603
00:34:41,329 --> 00:34:43,080
The Peninsula? What the fuck?

604
00:34:43,081 --> 00:34:45,207
Exactly.
Where Ashley went to meet him.

605
00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:48,335
- Shit. What happened?

606
00:34:48,336 --> 00:34:50,421
Fuck. It's her. I have to go.

607
00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:51,797
Hi.

608
00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:54,258
EX-ASSISTANT
Megan, we just spoke.

609
00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:55,884
I'm sorry, but it's a no.

610
00:34:55,885 --> 00:34:57,846
But good luck. Honestly.

611
00:35:25,707 --> 00:35:27,082
So, if you sign it,

612
00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:28,709
you don't tell anyone
about anything?

613
00:35:28,710 --> 00:35:30,419
Yeah.

614
00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:33,213
It could've been bullying, or
sometimes it's just a big shop,

615
00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,758
and they don't want you
to tell their trade secrets.

616
00:35:35,759 --> 00:35:37,344
Did you sign one?

617
00:35:39,054 --> 00:35:40,763
No.

618
00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:43,808
So, shops have secrets
but newspapers don't?

619
00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:50,898
I think pretty much everyone
and everything has a secret.

620
00:35:50,899 --> 00:35:53,984
- What's yours?

621
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:55,986
I will tell you one day.

622
00:35:55,987 --> 00:35:59,074
- Do you have one?
- Of course.

623
00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:04,704
Course I have a secret.

624
00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:16,173
- So what are you saying?
- So we take a drive through

625
00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:17,854
- the redwood, huh?
- Beach? Mountain? Spa?

626
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:50,374
- Hello?
- John Schmidt?

627
00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:52,292
- My name is Megan Twohey.
- Yeah?

628
00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:53,877
I'm a reporter for
The New York Times.

629
00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:55,504
Would it be possible to speak for a moment?
- Oh.

630
00:36:55,505 --> 00:36:57,382
Uh, come in.

631
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:04,263
I can't see
what you'd want from me.

632
00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:07,558
You were the chief
financial officer at Miramax.

633
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,476
The women who received
these settlements,

634
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:11,186
they can't speak out.

635
00:37:11,187 --> 00:37:13,814
They'll be sued if they do.

636
00:37:13,815 --> 00:37:18,444
But if someone could
speak freely about the payouts,

637
00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:20,947
that would be hugely helpful.

638
00:37:23,575 --> 00:37:25,702
What payouts, John?

639
00:37:32,876 --> 00:37:34,918
Look, I'm not asking you
to go on the record.

640
00:37:34,919 --> 00:37:37,796
Just to have your perspective

641
00:37:37,797 --> 00:37:40,633
on what might've happened
back then.

642
00:37:46,764 --> 00:37:49,017
I need to think about it.

643
00:37:50,768 --> 00:37:53,688
- Okay?
- Okay.

644
00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:57,108
Sorry just to show up.

645
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:02,321
- Good night.

646
00:38:02,322 --> 00:38:04,824
Good night.

647
00:38:21,591 --> 00:38:23,800
Hi, hi. Can you hear me?

648
00:38:23,801 --> 00:38:26,345
- WOMAN Yes.
- - Uh, I really appreciate

649
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:28,138
you talking to me on a Saturday.

650
00:38:28,139 --> 00:38:30,265
I hope the links were useful.

651
00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:32,684
They were,
but I-I find it very strange

652
00:38:32,685 --> 00:38:36,438
that if I want to access
certain information, I can't.

653
00:38:36,439 --> 00:38:38,190
The EEOC is
all about information.

654
00:38:38,191 --> 00:38:40,067
What could you not find?

655
00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:41,818
Well, for instance,
which companies

656
00:38:41,819 --> 00:38:43,862
have had the most
sexual harassment complaints,

657
00:38:43,863 --> 00:38:46,198
but no one was permitted
to tell me that.

658
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:49,201
Yes, that would be
confidential information.

659
00:38:49,202 --> 00:38:50,744
But do you think that's right?

660
00:38:50,745 --> 00:38:53,330
Shouldn't the Equal Employment
Opportunities Commission

661
00:38:53,331 --> 00:38:55,625
be a resource for information?

662
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:59,419
Our policies
are reviewed annually.

663
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:00,754
So do you know internally

664
00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:02,464
which companies have
the most complaints?

665
00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:03,966
Yes, we do,

666
00:39:03,967 --> 00:39:07,594
but we're not allowed
to disclose that information.

667
00:39:07,595 --> 00:39:12,015
So any woman applying for a job
is not allowed to check

668
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:15,477
the record of that employer
in terms of harassment?

669
00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:16,979
That's right.

670
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:19,690
You-you should probably
talk to someone higher up.

671
00:39:19,691 --> 00:39:21,650
I-I'm... I'm going to.

672
00:39:21,651 --> 00:39:25,112
I will, but don't you think
that's strange?

673
00:39:25,113 --> 00:39:27,281
That the commission is there
to protect people

674
00:39:27,282 --> 00:39:31,076
but its policy prohibits
sharing the information needed

675
00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:33,036
to protect them?

676
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:35,664
Megan, I'm not
the head of the EEOC.

677
00:39:35,665 --> 00:39:38,125
I was just trying to help.

678
00:39:38,126 --> 00:39:40,210
And you, and you have.
And it's the weekend.

679
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:42,546
- I really thank you.
- Okay.

680
00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:43,839
- Okay.
- Goodbye.

681
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,592
Oh, my gosh.

682
00:39:46,593 --> 00:39:48,468
Amazing.

683
00:39:48,469 --> 00:39:50,178
Incredible.

684
00:39:50,179 --> 00:39:53,057
Mira or the Equal Employment
Opportunities Commission?

685
00:39:54,517 --> 00:39:56,893
- Both.

686
00:39:56,894 --> 00:39:59,022
- Hi.

687
00:40:01,232 --> 00:40:03,609
- We're like reporting twins.
- Yeah.

688
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:06,654
- Should I go up and change?
- No, let's go.

689
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,532
- You look amazing.
- Nice.

690
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,750
- Hi. How was your ride?
- Hi. - Hi.

691
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:21,001
- Yeah, it was...
- Great.

692
00:40:21,002 --> 00:40:22,336
- It was good.

693
00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:23,920
I'm Helen.
I'm Gwyneth's assistant.

694
00:40:23,921 --> 00:40:25,339
Gwyneth will be right with you.

695
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:26,799
Thank you.

696
00:40:30,762 --> 00:40:33,597
So it's a total pattern,
a pattern of behavior.

697
00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:35,182
Gwyneth was invited
to the hotel room,

698
00:40:35,183 --> 00:40:37,517
the business meeting,
and then threatened with

699
00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:39,186
losing her job
if she refused him.

700
00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:42,230
She told her agent.
No one does a thing.

701
00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:44,566
REBECCA
Will Gwyneth go on the record?

702
00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:45,734
She really wants to.

703
00:40:45,735 --> 00:40:47,110
I-I think she does
and she doesn't.

704
00:40:47,111 --> 00:40:49,363
She's scared
that it could turn into

705
00:40:49,364 --> 00:40:51,365
some kind of
tabloidy sex scandal.

706
00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:54,701
I mean, Gwyneth was 23.
So was Rose.

707
00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:56,620
They were so young.

708
00:40:56,621 --> 00:40:58,497
Tell me everything
when you get in.

709
00:40:58,498 --> 00:41:00,416
Okay. Bye.

710
00:41:04,212 --> 00:41:06,880
The only way these women
are gonna go on the record...

711
00:41:06,881 --> 00:41:08,841
Is if they all jump together.

712
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:12,136
Yeah.

713
00:41:21,437 --> 00:41:23,355
You take the lead on this.

714
00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:26,024
No, you do it.
You're less intimidating.

715
00:41:26,025 --> 00:41:28,277
You don't find me intimidating?

716
00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:32,197
No, I mean...
No, it's just the height thing.

717
00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:33,448
- Hi.

718
00:41:33,449 --> 00:41:36,576
Hi. We were just
in the neighborhood.

719
00:41:36,577 --> 00:41:38,120
We're from The New York Times.

720
00:41:38,121 --> 00:41:41,165
I believe you used to work
for Harvey Weinstein?

721
00:41:47,547 --> 00:41:50,298
- Think she'll go on the record?

722
00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:51,633
Okay. I'm just gonna...

723
00:41:51,634 --> 00:41:54,303
You want to leave the note?
Yeah.

724
00:42:03,229 --> 00:42:05,897
The NDAs are never examined
or questioned.

725
00:42:05,898 --> 00:42:07,733
They rarely come up
in open court.

726
00:42:07,734 --> 00:42:09,401
Law schools don't teach them.

727
00:42:09,402 --> 00:42:11,528
Also, the attorneys
who represent the victims

728
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,864
can get up to 40%
of the settlement.

729
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:15,949
That's a big incentive
to keep that system going.

730
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:18,869
Most sexual harassment cases
are settled out of court.

731
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:21,371
And most of them have
a confidentiality clause.

732
00:42:21,372 --> 00:42:23,749
And the women who sign these
contracts have to give over

733
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:27,002
all of their evidence:
their diaries, emails, phones.

734
00:42:27,003 --> 00:42:28,420
It's cash for silence,

735
00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:30,464
and it enables the perpetrators
to continue.

736
00:42:30,465 --> 00:42:33,008
And these clauses
are standard practice.

737
00:42:33,009 --> 00:42:34,718
The women want
to close the case.

738
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,261
They need the money. They...

739
00:42:36,262 --> 00:42:38,513
They don't want to be branded
as liars or flirts.

740
00:42:38,514 --> 00:42:41,641
I mean, I'm sure it-it often
seems like the only recourse.

741
00:42:41,642 --> 00:42:44,019
And I imagine some women
see these settlements

742
00:42:44,020 --> 00:42:45,729
as a confession of guilt.

743
00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:47,439
They think
they've scored a victory

744
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,441
when it's actually a gag order.

745
00:42:49,442 --> 00:42:51,735
And if you try and take a case
like this to court,

746
00:42:51,736 --> 00:42:53,820
the sexual harassment laws
are so weak.

747
00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:55,906
They're actually nonexistent
if you're a freelancer

748
00:42:55,907 --> 00:42:58,241
or if there are fewer than
15 employees in the workplace.

749
00:42:58,242 --> 00:43:00,076
Also, most lawyers
prefer settlements

750
00:43:00,077 --> 00:43:02,662
'cause it's less of
a financial risk for them.

751
00:43:02,663 --> 00:43:04,331
How close are
any of these actresses

752
00:43:04,332 --> 00:43:05,582
to going on the record?

753
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,251
We're introducing the idea.

754
00:43:08,252 --> 00:43:10,837
I'm afraid we have these
horrific hotel room accounts

755
00:43:10,838 --> 00:43:12,464
and no corroborating evidence.

756
00:43:12,465 --> 00:43:16,635
We feel they'll speak out
if they're not the only ones.

757
00:43:16,636 --> 00:43:17,886
Safety in numbers.

758
00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:19,638
And settlements?

759
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,557
Three. So far.

760
00:43:22,558 --> 00:43:24,476
There's Rose McGowan.

761
00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:26,895
We're pretty sure about
Ambra Battilana.

762
00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:30,315
And I would say the same for
the ex-assistant in Queens.

763
00:43:30,316 --> 00:43:31,525
And no documents?

764
00:43:31,526 --> 00:43:33,903
We do not have
a publishable story.

765
00:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,366
Hey.

766
00:43:39,367 --> 00:43:40,992
So, look, team.

767
00:43:40,993 --> 00:43:43,787
You have to imagine
that every call you make

768
00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:45,163
is being recorded.

769
00:43:45,164 --> 00:43:47,165
And you're being followed.

770
00:43:47,166 --> 00:43:50,919
Don't let Weinstein talk to you,
unless it's on the record.

771
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,297
I'd be interested in talking
to him even off the record.

772
00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:56,758
No, if Harvey has
something to say,

773
00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:58,760
he needs to say it publicly.

774
00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:00,887
I've dealt with him before.

775
00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:02,390
It's ugly.

776
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:05,267
We're looking into the incident

777
00:44:05,268 --> 00:44:07,435
with Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.

778
00:44:07,436 --> 00:44:10,272
She accused Weinstein
of groping her.

779
00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:13,400
The NYPD gave her a wire,
and she met him again.

780
00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:15,777
But the D.A. wouldn't prosecute.

781
00:44:15,778 --> 00:44:18,488
They claimed the recording
wasn't enough to arrest him.

782
00:44:18,489 --> 00:44:21,324
Linda Fairstein
worked in the D.A.'s office.

783
00:44:21,325 --> 00:44:22,827
I've texted her.

784
00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,454
What do we have to do here?
Nothing.

785
00:44:26,455 --> 00:44:28,666
I'm gonna take a shower,
you sit there and have a drink.

786
00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:30,084
Water.
I don't drink.

787
00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:31,668
Then have a glass of water.
Can I stay on the bar?

788
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,963
No. You must come here now.
No...

789
00:44:34,547 --> 00:44:36,942
Please? I'm not doing anything
with you, I promise. No, I don't want to.

790
00:44:36,966 --> 00:44:38,902
I know, I don't want to.
Now you're embarrassing me.

791
00:44:38,926 --> 00:44:40,594
I'm sorry, I cannot.
No, come in here.

792
00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:42,889
No, yesterday was
kind of aggressive for me. I know...

793
00:44:43,222 --> 00:44:45,822
I need to know a person to be
touched. I won't do a thing, please.

794
00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:49,687
I swear I won't, just sit with me. Don't
embarrass me in the Hotel. I'm here all the time.

795
00:44:49,979 --> 00:44:53,316
I know, but I don't want to.
Please sit there, please.

796
00:44:53,566 --> 00:44:56,109
One minute, I ask you. Go to the
bathroom. No, I can't.

797
00:44:56,110 --> 00:45:00,132
Please, I don't want to do something I don't want to
do. Go to the bath... Hey, come here. Listen to me.

798
00:45:00,156 --> 00:45:03,950
I want to go downstairs. I'm not gonna do
anything, you'll never see me again after this.

799
00:45:03,951 --> 00:45:04,994
OK? That's it.

800
00:45:05,411 --> 00:45:08,056
If you don't... if you embarrass
me in this hotel where I'm staying at.

801
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,680
I'm not embarrassing you. It's
just that I don't feel comfortable.

802
00:45:10,917 --> 00:45:13,376
Honey, don't have a fight with me
in the hallway. It's not nothing, it's...

803
00:45:13,377 --> 00:45:15,921
Please. I am not gonna do
anything. I swear on my children.

804
00:45:15,922 --> 00:45:17,088
Please come in.

805
00:45:17,089 --> 00:45:20,509
On everything. I'm a famous guy.
I'm feeling very uncomfortable right now.

806
00:45:20,801 --> 00:45:21,801
Please come in now.

807
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:23,720
And one minute.
And if you wanna leave,

808
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:26,682
when the guy comes with my jacket...
Why yesterday you touch my breast?

809
00:45:27,016 --> 00:45:29,256
Oh, please, I'm sorry, just come
on in, I'm used to that.

810
00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:31,562
You're used to that?
Yes, come in.

811
00:45:32,313 --> 00:45:36,359
No, but I'm not used to that.
I won't do it again, come on, sit here.

812
00:45:37,193 --> 00:45:40,153
Sit here for a minute, please?
No, I don't want to.

813
00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:42,447
If you do this now you will

814
00:45:42,448 --> 00:45:45,701
Now go. Bye. Never call me
again.

815
00:45:45,993 --> 00:45:48,996
OK? I'm sorry, nice to have...
I promise you I won't do anything...

816
00:45:49,538 --> 00:45:51,938
I know, but yesterday was too
much for me. The guy is coming.

817
00:45:51,999 --> 00:45:54,627
I will never do another thing to
you. Five minutes.

818
00:45:54,961 --> 00:45:58,089
Don't ruin your friendship with
me for five minutes.

819
00:45:59,173 --> 00:46:01,383
Linda, Megan Twohey here.
How are you?

820
00:46:01,384 --> 00:46:02,717
LINDA I'm good, Megan.

821
00:46:02,718 --> 00:46:04,052
How can I help?

822
00:46:04,053 --> 00:46:05,887
Yeah, I'm looking into
a police complaint

823
00:46:05,888 --> 00:46:09,057
against Harvey Weinstein that
wasn't charged two years ago.

824
00:46:09,058 --> 00:46:11,226
When you were
at the D.A.'s office.

825
00:46:11,227 --> 00:46:13,561
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez.

826
00:46:13,562 --> 00:46:16,231
Oh. Okay.

827
00:46:16,232 --> 00:46:19,275
It seemed to go away
very quickly.

828
00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:20,902
There was
no criminal conduct there.

829
00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:24,948
The cops seemed
pretty confident there was.

830
00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:26,825
Do you think
there was anything irregular

831
00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:27,951
about how it was handled?

832
00:46:27,952 --> 00:46:29,536
I don't.

833
00:46:29,537 --> 00:46:30,997
Why would you say that?

834
00:46:33,624 --> 00:46:34,749
Gwyneth.

835
00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:36,209
GWYNETH He's here.

836
00:46:36,210 --> 00:46:39,421
I invited a few people over,
and he turned up.

837
00:46:39,422 --> 00:46:41,131
I haven't seen him for years.

838
00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:43,258
He must know I spoke to you.

839
00:46:43,259 --> 00:46:45,719
Why are you so certain
there was no criminal conduct?

840
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,220
Wasn't there a recording?

841
00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:48,763
Uh...

842
00:46:48,764 --> 00:46:50,849
I don't think
there's a road to go down.

843
00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:52,268
No.

844
00:46:53,102 --> 00:46:55,103
Do you feel like you're in
physical danger at all?

845
00:46:55,104 --> 00:46:57,689
I'll keep people
around me till he goes.

846
00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:59,441
It's a shock.
I know he's watching me.

847
00:46:59,442 --> 00:47:01,402
He's letting me know.

848
00:47:02,528 --> 00:47:04,821
He can't do anything.

849
00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:06,197
Gwyneth.

850
00:47:06,198 --> 00:47:08,825
I'm here.
Call me if you need me.

851
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,369
Okay. Bye.

852
00:47:11,996 --> 00:47:14,039
Linda, do you know Harvey?

853
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,832
I've met him socially,

854
00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:18,334
but we've never been
to each other's homes.

855
00:47:18,335 --> 00:47:20,128
Okay.

856
00:47:20,129 --> 00:47:22,630
- I'm sure we'll speak soon.
- Yes.

857
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:24,884
Goodbye.

858
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:32,766
We got a good lead to talk
to a past executive at Miramax.

859
00:47:32,767 --> 00:47:34,434
- Great. When will that be?
- - Hey. Hola.

860
00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:35,852
Jodi's talking to her tomorrow.

861
00:47:35,853 --> 00:47:37,145
Hey, I don't think
she heard you.

862
00:47:37,146 --> 00:47:38,438
She definitely didn't hear you.

863
00:47:38,439 --> 00:47:41,108
- Oh, my God.
- What?

864
00:47:41,942 --> 00:47:44,861
Ronan Farrow is working on

865
00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:47,697
an H.W. piece
for The New Yorker.

866
00:47:47,698 --> 00:47:48,865
What? Since when?

867
00:47:48,866 --> 00:47:50,533
- Fuck.
- - She doesn't say,

868
00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:53,745
but apparently he's spoken
to a lot of actresses already.

869
00:47:53,746 --> 00:47:54,829
Okay, ladies.

870
00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:56,414
These are the menus.

871
00:47:56,415 --> 00:47:57,916
- Thank you.
- All right. - - Thank you.

872
00:47:57,917 --> 00:47:59,959
It's pressure we can do without,

873
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:04,047
but we just keep going,
and we continue to be thorough.

874
00:48:04,048 --> 00:48:06,091
Pardon me. Excuse me.
Hello. Hi. Hello, everyone.

875
00:48:06,092 --> 00:48:08,134
Uh, did you, did you see
my friend over there?

876
00:48:08,135 --> 00:48:09,344
He-he said hi.

877
00:48:09,345 --> 00:48:10,637
Could you leave us?

878
00:48:10,638 --> 00:48:12,180
- We're talking.
- I absolutely will.

879
00:48:12,181 --> 00:48:13,765
I totally understand,
but I was just thinking

880
00:48:13,766 --> 00:48:15,308
maybe I could just have
a moment of your time.

881
00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:16,351
All right, man.
We're having a conversation.

882
00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:17,727
So, if you could just...

883
00:48:17,728 --> 00:48:19,020
You should be doing
something else, though.

884
00:48:19,021 --> 00:48:20,522
- Fuck you.
- Fuck you?

885
00:48:20,523 --> 00:48:21,815
I would bend you over...

886
00:48:21,816 --> 00:48:23,275
Fuck you!

887
00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:25,735
Fuck you!
Get the fuck out of here!

888
00:48:25,736 --> 00:48:28,072
Fuck you, man! Get the fuck out!

889
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:31,950
- Wow.
- Frigid bitches.

890
00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:34,370
Frigid bitches.

891
00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:37,915
- MEGAN Sorry.
- Don't apologize.

892
00:48:52,888 --> 00:48:58,143
There was an incident
in Venice at the film festival.

893
00:48:58,144 --> 00:49:00,812
It was '98.

894
00:49:00,813 --> 00:49:02,523
What happened?

895
00:49:06,026 --> 00:49:10,029
What makes me most angry
is the silence.

896
00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:14,450
No one spoke out then, and
no one is talking about it now.

897
00:49:14,451 --> 00:49:17,620
He built the silence,
and people complied.

898
00:49:17,621 --> 00:49:20,540
He produced fear
and intimidation.

899
00:49:20,541 --> 00:49:22,625
The only alternative,
seemingly, was to quit

900
00:49:22,626 --> 00:49:25,461
and throw away everything
you worked so hard for

901
00:49:25,462 --> 00:49:26,963
out the door.

902
00:49:26,964 --> 00:49:28,840
You were terrified you were
gonna be the next target,

903
00:49:28,841 --> 00:49:30,758
so people looked the other way.

904
00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:34,095
- Within the company?
- Yes, and outside of it.

905
00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:36,973
I mean, he played the press.
He played the agents.

906
00:49:36,974 --> 00:49:38,766
How did he play the press?

907
00:49:38,767 --> 00:49:40,602
By promising them
access to stars

908
00:49:40,603 --> 00:49:42,687
in exchange for
hushing up some incident.

909
00:49:42,688 --> 00:49:44,690
What sort of incident?

910
00:49:45,524 --> 00:49:47,859
Where do I start?

911
00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:50,695
Harvey had this...
What did they call it?

912
00:49:50,696 --> 00:49:56,409
"a physical altercation" with a
male employee at a conference.

913
00:49:56,410 --> 00:49:57,994
Then they settled with the guy.

914
00:49:57,995 --> 00:50:00,164
And with women?

915
00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:03,541
He pursued them.

916
00:50:03,542 --> 00:50:05,336
Endlessly.

917
00:50:08,505 --> 00:50:10,633
What happened in Venice?

918
00:50:12,635 --> 00:50:14,469
I don't want to be quoted.

919
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:15,429
Period.

920
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:17,473
Understood.

921
00:50:21,477 --> 00:50:22,977
We were in Harvey's suite,

922
00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:25,813
and there were
a bunch of people in there.

923
00:50:25,814 --> 00:50:28,316
And there were
these two assistants,

924
00:50:28,317 --> 00:50:31,277
and they were
sitting there trembling.

925
00:50:31,278 --> 00:50:33,112
And Weinstein was there?

926
00:50:33,113 --> 00:50:35,073
Yes.

927
00:50:35,074 --> 00:50:38,701
He was talking film
and ignoring them,

928
00:50:38,702 --> 00:50:41,621
but they were
literally vibrating.

929
00:50:41,622 --> 00:50:45,167
One with fear,
the other with anger.

930
00:50:47,544 --> 00:50:49,379
Can you tell me their names?

931
00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:51,215
Yes.

932
00:50:56,178 --> 00:51:00,014
And there's another woman
you should, you should call.

933
00:51:00,015 --> 00:51:03,518
The two assistants are
Rowena Chiu and Zelda Perkins,

934
00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:06,688
and we have a third name,
Laura Madden.

935
00:51:06,689 --> 00:51:09,440
And none of them
are returning our calls.

936
00:51:09,441 --> 00:51:11,359
So? Show up in person.

937
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,736
Yeah.

938
00:51:13,737 --> 00:51:18,074
They live in London,
Silicon Valley and Wales.

939
00:51:18,075 --> 00:51:20,327
Can you get on a plane?

940
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:30,421
Let me work it out with Ron.

941
00:51:33,215 --> 00:51:36,217
But yeah, of course.

942
00:51:36,218 --> 00:51:37,719
Documents, verification.

943
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:39,345
You know what we need.

944
00:52:22,890 --> 00:52:25,141
Hi.

945
00:52:25,142 --> 00:52:27,769
Sorry to bother you.
I can see you're busy.

946
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:31,272
I was looking for Rowena Chiu.

947
00:52:31,273 --> 00:52:32,774
Hi.

948
00:52:32,775 --> 00:52:36,069
Rowena's not here right now.
Can I give her a message?

949
00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:38,071
When will she be back?

950
00:52:38,072 --> 00:52:41,074
My wife's out of the country
for a while.

951
00:52:41,075 --> 00:52:42,408
I see.

952
00:52:42,409 --> 00:52:45,078
I did try calling her.

953
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:46,579
This a work thing?

954
00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:48,581
No. You must be Andrew?

955
00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:50,041
Andrew Cheung?

956
00:52:50,042 --> 00:52:52,710
I'm Jodi Kantor.
I'm from The New York Times.

957
00:52:52,711 --> 00:52:54,420
Okay.

958
00:52:54,421 --> 00:52:58,299
So, what did you want
to talk to Rowena about?

959
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:01,594
We're researching a story
about Miramax.

960
00:53:01,595 --> 00:53:04,430
I flew in from New York.

961
00:53:04,431 --> 00:53:06,725
- You came all this way?
- Yeah.

962
00:53:08,143 --> 00:53:10,812
Um, could we talk for a minute?

963
00:53:10,813 --> 00:53:12,271
Sure.

964
00:53:12,272 --> 00:53:15,441
So, I've been speaking
with people

965
00:53:15,442 --> 00:53:18,820
who worked for Harvey Weinstein.

966
00:53:18,821 --> 00:53:22,615
You're going quite far back
with Rowena's time there.

967
00:53:22,616 --> 00:53:24,575
We're writing about
his treatment of women.

968
00:53:24,576 --> 00:53:25,952
Right.

969
00:53:25,953 --> 00:53:29,164
And Rowena fits in how?

970
00:53:29,957 --> 00:53:33,459
Your wife worked at Miramax
for some years.

971
00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:35,670
Yes.

972
00:53:35,671 --> 00:53:37,004
Mainly in Hong Kong.

973
00:53:37,005 --> 00:53:38,798
Like to hear about
her experiences

974
00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:40,341
working for Weinstein.

975
00:53:40,342 --> 00:53:43,428
I'm confused why you can't
discuss it on the phone.

976
00:53:43,429 --> 00:53:45,972
I did try.

977
00:53:45,973 --> 00:53:48,183
It is always better
to actually meet.

978
00:53:50,185 --> 00:53:51,979
So...

979
00:53:53,689 --> 00:53:56,816
And this is off the record.

980
00:53:56,817 --> 00:53:58,901
My understanding is that...

981
00:53:58,902 --> 00:54:00,903
that Weinstein
possibly victimized your wife

982
00:54:00,904 --> 00:54:03,198
when Rowena
first worked for him.

983
00:54:06,452 --> 00:54:10,288
Rowena's never mentioned
anything like that to me.

984
00:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,165
What-what do you mean
by "victimized"?

985
00:54:12,166 --> 00:54:13,667
Can you be more specific?

986
00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:16,544
I was told that your wife

987
00:54:16,545 --> 00:54:19,047
may have received a settlement
from Weinstein.

988
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,218
Do I look like a guy
whose wife got a settlement?

989
00:54:24,553 --> 00:54:27,180
Could you have confused her
with someone else?

990
00:54:27,181 --> 00:54:30,183
I-I... I apologize
for taking up your time.

991
00:54:30,184 --> 00:54:31,434
I'm...

992
00:54:31,435 --> 00:54:34,854
Will you just please
give this to Rowena?

993
00:54:34,855 --> 00:54:36,272
If you're talking
to these other people,

994
00:54:36,273 --> 00:54:37,773
why do you need
to talk to Rowena?

995
00:54:37,774 --> 00:54:40,943
And if you turn up
in my driveway,

996
00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:42,695
what kind of victimization?

997
00:54:42,696 --> 00:54:44,280
It's complex.

998
00:54:44,281 --> 00:54:46,574
I'm asking you to expand on it.

999
00:54:46,575 --> 00:54:50,662
I really think
it would be best...

1000
00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:53,539
if you asked Rowena.

1001
00:54:53,540 --> 00:54:55,375
Have a good day.

1002
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:09,931
JODI I just couldn't lie to him.

1003
00:55:09,932 --> 00:55:12,391
And then it turns out
he didn't know.

1004
00:55:12,392 --> 00:55:14,227
What if London is
a repeat of this?

1005
00:55:14,228 --> 00:55:15,645
It won't be.

1006
00:55:15,646 --> 00:55:17,939
I spoke with an
employment lawyer in the U.K.,

1007
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:21,484
and he told me that
it was irresponsible of me

1008
00:55:21,485 --> 00:55:23,569
even to ask about
breaching NDAs.

1009
00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:25,321
No one does it.
They would get sued.

1010
00:55:25,322 --> 00:55:26,864
Fuck that guy.

1011
00:55:26,865 --> 00:55:30,117
Honestly, Jodi, fuck him.
He has no idea.

1012
00:55:30,118 --> 00:55:32,912
I wish I smoked or something.

1013
00:55:32,913 --> 00:55:35,998
I'm staring at
an actual brick wall,

1014
00:55:35,999 --> 00:55:38,209
and all I can think is, "Fuck."

1015
00:55:38,210 --> 00:55:40,545
That's okay.

1016
00:55:40,546 --> 00:55:42,088
Fuck.

1017
00:55:42,089 --> 00:55:44,508
And documents.

1018
00:55:53,809 --> 00:55:58,020
So, Laura, we are looking at
a full mastectomy.

1019
00:55:58,021 --> 00:56:02,066
And we should schedule this
as soon as possible.

1020
00:56:02,067 --> 00:56:03,694
I understand.

1021
00:56:12,202 --> 00:56:13,786
LAURA Hello.

1022
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:15,955
Hi.

1023
00:56:15,956 --> 00:56:18,624
Laura, this is Jodi Kantor
from The New York Times.

1024
00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:21,252
Um, I hope you've been
getting my messages.

1025
00:56:21,253 --> 00:56:22,753
I'm in California right now,

1026
00:56:22,754 --> 00:56:25,214
but I'm coming
to London tomorrow.

1027
00:56:25,215 --> 00:56:27,091
Hi, Jodi.

1028
00:56:27,092 --> 00:56:28,467
Hi.

1029
00:56:28,468 --> 00:56:32,638
Um, I-I'm so happy to be
finally speaking with you.

1030
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:35,725
I-I understand that you once
worked for Harvey Weinstein

1031
00:56:35,726 --> 00:56:37,935
in the London office of Miramax.

1032
00:56:37,936 --> 00:56:39,688
Is that right?

1033
00:56:41,023 --> 00:56:43,317
Laura?

1034
00:56:49,072 --> 00:56:50,782
Laura.

1035
00:56:52,409 --> 00:56:54,493
Can I do anything to help?

1036
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:57,372
No. I can't talk
about this right now.

1037
00:57:10,594 --> 00:57:12,386
Hey.

1038
00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:13,554
Hey, my love.

1039
00:57:13,555 --> 00:57:16,892
- Come here. Oh.

1040
00:57:17,768 --> 00:57:19,853
Hey, now.

1041
00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:23,064
It's going to be all right.

1042
00:57:23,065 --> 00:57:25,776
- It's going to be all right.
- - I'm so sorry, Mum.

1043
00:57:40,791 --> 00:57:42,583
WOMAN
Please refrain from smoking

1044
00:57:42,584 --> 00:57:44,419
in this building.

1045
00:57:56,765 --> 00:57:58,433
Here we are.

1046
00:58:01,436 --> 00:58:03,104
Tea.

1047
00:58:03,105 --> 00:58:04,981
Thank you.

1048
00:58:23,125 --> 00:58:25,584
You know, other people
have tried to write this story.

1049
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:27,002
He kills it every time.

1050
00:58:27,003 --> 00:58:29,172
We're aware of that.

1051
00:58:30,048 --> 00:58:32,592
And we're not gonna
let that happen to us.

1052
00:58:36,638 --> 00:58:38,305
Are you okay, Zelda?

1053
00:58:38,306 --> 00:58:39,850
Yes.

1054
00:58:41,935 --> 00:58:45,271
So, you started working
at Miramax when you were 21?

1055
00:58:45,272 --> 00:58:49,066
Yes. I was an assistant
at the London office.

1056
00:58:49,067 --> 00:58:51,318
- And how was it?
- It was great.

1057
00:58:51,319 --> 00:58:54,196
But it would shift
when Harvey came to town.

1058
00:58:54,197 --> 00:58:55,823
In what way?

1059
00:58:55,824 --> 00:58:59,702
Everyone became on call
to Harvey.

1060
00:58:59,703 --> 00:59:01,996
And what would that entail?

1061
00:59:01,997 --> 00:59:07,460
Script meetings, discussions
and more personal stuff.

1062
00:59:07,461 --> 00:59:08,836
Like?

1063
00:59:08,837 --> 00:59:11,422
For instance,
I would have to go to his hotel

1064
00:59:11,423 --> 00:59:13,591
and wake Harvey up.

1065
00:59:13,592 --> 00:59:15,259
Run his shower for him.

1066
00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:16,802
Get him out of bed.

1067
00:59:16,803 --> 00:59:18,387
He would usually be naked.

1068
00:59:18,388 --> 00:59:20,514
And he might try
to pull me onto him.

1069
00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:22,183
What did you do?

1070
00:59:22,184 --> 00:59:23,684
I'd fend him off.

1071
00:59:23,685 --> 00:59:26,812
I found humor or aggression
worked best.

1072
00:59:26,813 --> 00:59:30,691
Harvey was either
excited or furious.

1073
00:59:30,692 --> 00:59:32,986
You never knew
which it would be.

1074
00:59:33,737 --> 00:59:36,739
Did anyone on the team
give you advice about him?

1075
00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:38,240
Yes.

1076
00:59:38,241 --> 00:59:41,243
Once, one girl told me to
always wear my puffer jacket,

1077
00:59:41,244 --> 00:59:44,079
um, and to always sit
in an armchair,

1078
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,250
never the sofa next to him,
which helped.

1079
00:59:48,251 --> 00:59:52,755
And that's how I knew that
it wasn't only happening to me.

1080
00:59:52,756 --> 00:59:54,882
What was happening exactly?

1081
00:59:54,883 --> 00:59:56,634
Bullying.

1082
00:59:56,635 --> 00:59:58,511
Emotional abuse.

1083
00:59:58,512 --> 01:00:01,347
I was just too young
to understand it.

1084
01:00:01,348 --> 01:00:04,642
Harvey wanted people
to submit to him.

1085
01:00:04,643 --> 01:00:05,851
And if they didn't?

1086
01:00:05,852 --> 01:00:07,269
Well, then he'd roar.

1087
01:00:07,270 --> 01:00:08,729
And he'd spit.

1088
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:11,690
He could destroy someone
in seconds.

1089
01:00:11,691 --> 01:00:13,902
Were you scared of him?

1090
01:00:14,778 --> 01:00:17,614
Yes. We all were.

1091
01:00:20,116 --> 01:00:22,159
So, three years into this,

1092
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,830
you were at
the Venice Film Festival.

1093
01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:30,292
I resigned after that.

1094
01:00:30,293 --> 01:00:33,504
- What happened?
- I can't tell you all of it.

1095
01:00:33,505 --> 01:00:35,714
What can you tell me?

1096
01:00:35,715 --> 01:00:38,133
♪ Let's sway ♪

1097
01:00:38,134 --> 01:00:44,015
♪ Under the moonlight,
this serious moonlight... ♪

1098
01:00:44,933 --> 01:00:46,600
There was a new assistant.

1099
01:00:46,601 --> 01:00:48,520
She was my age. She was great.

1100
01:00:49,604 --> 01:00:51,272
She was very smart.

1101
01:00:51,273 --> 01:00:53,774
And she was doing Harvey's
evening script meeting

1102
01:00:53,775 --> 01:00:55,401
alone for the first time,

1103
01:00:55,402 --> 01:00:58,947
and I told her to call me
if he got difficult.

1104
01:01:00,615 --> 01:01:02,492
- Was he pursuing her?
- No.

1105
01:01:03,994 --> 01:01:07,538
Harvey said, "I don't like
Jewish or Asian women."

1106
01:01:07,539 --> 01:01:09,290
- But that night...
- She called you.

1107
01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:10,291
No.

1108
01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:12,668
The following morning,

1109
01:01:12,669 --> 01:01:15,838
she came to me,
and she was sobbing.

1110
01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:17,673
- I mean, she was hysterical.

1111
01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:19,300
Rowena, what happened?

1112
01:01:19,301 --> 01:01:21,135
Sit.

1113
01:01:21,136 --> 01:01:23,763
- And I held her.
- What is it?

1114
01:01:24,556 --> 01:01:27,559
Did she tell you what he did?

1115
01:01:28,768 --> 01:01:30,603
Not exactly.

1116
01:01:30,604 --> 01:01:32,396
Only that no one must know.

1117
01:01:32,397 --> 01:01:33,981
But I knew.

1118
01:01:33,982 --> 01:01:36,192
I knew that he must've...

1119
01:01:37,861 --> 01:01:39,194
What?

1120
01:01:39,195 --> 01:01:41,030
She was so upset.

1121
01:01:41,031 --> 01:01:45,368
I knew that it had to be
the-the worst possible thing.

1122
01:01:46,369 --> 01:01:49,538
I calmed her down, and I went
straight to confront Harvey.

1123
01:01:49,539 --> 01:01:52,708
He was in a meeting, uh,
with Scorsese, who, you know...

1124
01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:55,878
who hated him, so it was
a really big deal for Harvey.

1125
01:01:55,879 --> 01:01:59,548
And I went straight up to him,
and I said very clearly,

1126
01:01:59,549 --> 01:02:01,175
"You need to come with me
right now."

1127
01:02:01,176 --> 01:02:03,802
You went right up to them
and confronted him?

1128
01:02:03,803 --> 01:02:06,096
Yeah. I was so angry.

1129
01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:08,349
And in front of everyone,

1130
01:02:08,350 --> 01:02:11,518
he stood up and...

1131
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,730
he followed me like a lamb.

1132
01:02:14,898 --> 01:02:18,692
And then I knew.
Then I knew he did it.

1133
01:02:18,693 --> 01:02:20,361
And then?

1134
01:02:20,362 --> 01:02:21,737
He denied it.

1135
01:02:21,738 --> 01:02:23,238
He said, "I swear on my wife
and kids' lives

1136
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:24,698
that I did not assault
that young woman."

1137
01:02:24,699 --> 01:02:27,743
And then
I knew that he was lying.

1138
01:02:27,744 --> 01:02:29,119
He always used that line

1139
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,414
as a "get out of jail free"
card. Always.

1140
01:02:32,207 --> 01:02:35,918
Did the assistant
report it to the police?

1141
01:02:35,919 --> 01:02:39,005
Mm. She told no one.

1142
01:02:40,715 --> 01:02:42,716
We came back to London.

1143
01:02:42,717 --> 01:02:43,926
We both resigned.

1144
01:02:43,927 --> 01:02:45,511
I told my direct superior,

1145
01:02:45,512 --> 01:02:49,765
who suggested
we get ourselves a good lawyer.

1146
01:02:49,766 --> 01:02:51,642
I had no idea where to get one.

1147
01:02:51,643 --> 01:02:53,602
I found a company
close to the office,

1148
01:02:53,603 --> 01:02:56,146
and-and then I thought
it would be simple.

1149
01:02:56,147 --> 01:02:57,439
Criminal proceedings.

1150
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,608
But our lawyer said
we had no chance

1151
01:02:59,609 --> 01:03:01,777
and the only thing to do
was to agree to a settlement.

1152
01:03:01,778 --> 01:03:03,195
And I said categorically no,

1153
01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:04,863
that no money
should change hands

1154
01:03:04,864 --> 01:03:06,407
and that we just wanted
to stop him.

1155
01:03:06,408 --> 01:03:09,076
And no U.K. police
were involved?

1156
01:03:09,077 --> 01:03:10,619
We had no case.

1157
01:03:10,620 --> 01:03:12,746
We had no evidence and
no police report from Venice.

1158
01:03:12,747 --> 01:03:14,248
And, you see, with rape,

1159
01:03:14,249 --> 01:03:16,000
it is impossibly difficult
to get a prosecution.

1160
01:03:16,001 --> 01:03:17,626
And the lawyers kept saying

1161
01:03:17,627 --> 01:03:20,170
damage limitation
was the only way to go.

1162
01:03:20,171 --> 01:03:22,381
So I said, "All right, then.

1163
01:03:22,382 --> 01:03:23,966
We have our own
very real demands."

1164
01:03:23,967 --> 01:03:26,010
Conditions that Harvey
would have to meet

1165
01:03:26,011 --> 01:03:27,177
if we were to sign.

1166
01:03:27,178 --> 01:03:28,762
And what were those conditions?

1167
01:03:28,763 --> 01:03:31,265
We demanded that if Harvey
had another settlement

1168
01:03:31,266 --> 01:03:33,600
within two years, that it had
to be reported to Disney

1169
01:03:33,601 --> 01:03:34,935
or else he would be fired.

1170
01:03:34,936 --> 01:03:37,688
Another was that
he would go to therapy,

1171
01:03:37,689 --> 01:03:39,064
with me present initially

1172
01:03:39,065 --> 01:03:41,108
so that he couldn't lie
to the therapist.

1173
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:43,902
We demanded that
HR would put in a system

1174
01:03:43,903 --> 01:03:46,238
to protect the women and staff.

1175
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:49,116
And it felt like if we could
achieve all of those,

1176
01:03:49,117 --> 01:03:51,160
then that's what our silence
was paying for,

1177
01:03:51,161 --> 01:03:54,205
that we were paying
for him to stop.

1178
01:03:55,999 --> 01:03:57,499
So we signed.

1179
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:00,544
And they had their own
insane conditions for us.

1180
01:04:00,545 --> 01:04:02,213
What were they?

1181
01:04:03,131 --> 01:04:04,715
I tried to commit them
to memory.

1182
01:04:04,716 --> 01:04:06,633
Um, they wouldn't give us
our own copy.

1183
01:04:06,634 --> 01:04:08,135
What?

1184
01:04:08,136 --> 01:04:10,304
I was only given visitation
rights to my own settlement.

1185
01:04:10,305 --> 01:04:12,681
That's in...

1186
01:04:12,682 --> 01:04:14,141
That's incredible.

1187
01:04:14,142 --> 01:04:16,311
But you memorized them?

1188
01:04:17,437 --> 01:04:23,192
I asked for letters, too, which
stated some of the conditions.

1189
01:04:23,193 --> 01:04:26,862
One said,
"We will make best endeavors

1190
01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:30,699
to not help the police
in a criminal or civil case."

1191
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:35,580
We weren't allowed to talk
to our family or a doctor.

1192
01:04:37,415 --> 01:04:40,084
So finally we signed.

1193
01:04:40,085 --> 01:04:42,836
They gave us some money.

1194
01:04:42,837 --> 01:04:45,590
And I felt completely broken.

1195
01:04:53,306 --> 01:04:55,182
I interviewed
for other jobs afterwards,

1196
01:04:55,183 --> 01:04:58,186
but everyone kept saying,
"Why did you leave Harvey?"

1197
01:05:03,983 --> 01:05:06,069
They all assumed that I'd...

1198
01:05:06,945 --> 01:05:08,862
been with him, you know.

1199
01:05:08,863 --> 01:05:10,615
It was horrible.

1200
01:05:12,784 --> 01:05:14,284
What did you do then?

1201
01:05:14,285 --> 01:05:16,912
I went to visit a friend
in Guatemala,

1202
01:05:16,913 --> 01:05:18,997
and I stayed for five years.

1203
01:05:18,998 --> 01:05:22,084
I had no chance of
ever working in film again,

1204
01:05:22,085 --> 01:05:26,464
and I couldn't speak freely,
so I worked with horses.

1205
01:05:32,095 --> 01:05:33,721
You've lost a lot.

1206
01:05:41,229 --> 01:05:43,690
These are the original letters.

1207
01:05:44,899 --> 01:05:48,193
I had to have their permission
if I wanted

1208
01:05:48,194 --> 01:05:51,990
to contact a therapist
or speak to an accountant.

1209
01:05:53,491 --> 01:05:56,118
I was "never to speak
to any other media,

1210
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:59,497
now or hereafter existing,
about it."

1211
01:06:00,623 --> 01:06:04,293
Jodi, this is bigger
than Weinstein.

1212
01:06:04,294 --> 01:06:08,548
This is about the system
protecting abusers.

1213
01:06:10,049 --> 01:06:12,593
I want you to take these,

1214
01:06:12,594 --> 01:06:15,054
and I want you to use them.

1215
01:06:19,559 --> 01:06:21,352
Got to go now.

1216
01:06:42,415 --> 01:06:43,707
Is it dark there?

1217
01:06:43,708 --> 01:06:45,709
It's, like, - 00 here.

1218
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:47,003
Did you drink tea?

1219
01:06:48,296 --> 01:06:50,380
A little bit.

1220
01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:52,883
Who are you meeting?

1221
01:06:52,884 --> 01:06:55,010
Just a few women.

1222
01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:58,222
Can you find me a shell?
And a cat hat for Violet?

1223
01:06:58,223 --> 01:06:59,514
I will work on that.

1224
01:06:59,515 --> 01:07:01,725
Have you been okay without me?

1225
01:07:01,726 --> 01:07:03,685
Sure. You're back tomorrow.

1226
01:07:03,686 --> 01:07:05,062
I am.

1227
01:07:05,063 --> 01:07:06,147
Yay!

1228
01:07:09,025 --> 01:07:13,028
So, what did they do,
the women you're meeting?

1229
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:15,822
We'll talk about it
when you're older.

1230
01:07:15,823 --> 01:07:18,450
Are they criminals?
Bank robbers?

1231
01:07:18,451 --> 01:07:20,327
No.

1232
01:07:20,328 --> 01:07:21,704
Was it rape?

1233
01:07:25,458 --> 01:07:29,586
Talia, I don't think I've ever
heard you use that word.

1234
01:07:29,587 --> 01:07:32,798
Boys say it all the time.
And girls.

1235
01:07:32,799 --> 01:07:34,299
They shouldn't.

1236
01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:36,677
That word
shouldn't be used casually.

1237
01:07:36,678 --> 01:07:38,845
I'm sorry.

1238
01:07:38,846 --> 01:07:41,098
N-No. You did nothing wrong.

1239
01:07:41,099 --> 01:07:42,557
Are you angry with me?

1240
01:07:42,558 --> 01:07:45,185
No, Talia, no. I miss you.

1241
01:07:45,186 --> 01:07:47,522
I-I miss you like
someone took a piece out of me.

1242
01:07:50,692 --> 01:07:53,026
I lost you, Talia.

1243
01:07:53,027 --> 01:07:54,404
Talia.

1244
01:08:11,462 --> 01:08:12,921
Oh, God.

1245
01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:14,464
They're trying to survive,

1246
01:08:14,465 --> 01:08:18,051
and he's there 'cause
he's hosting the show.

1247
01:08:18,052 --> 01:08:20,178
And he's probably going to,
like, help them. -

1248
01:08:20,179 --> 01:08:21,722
- He's going to kill them.
- - Hello?

1249
01:08:21,723 --> 01:08:23,015
What? No!

1250
01:08:23,016 --> 01:08:24,349
No? May I ask
who's calling?

1251
01:08:24,350 --> 01:08:25,934
Probably going to help them,
like,

1252
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:27,936
- if they, like, need to get in.
- Now, who's Potts?

1253
01:08:27,937 --> 01:08:29,396
I know, but

1254
01:08:29,397 --> 01:08:32,274
they don't look like they're having troubles...
- Mum.

1255
01:08:32,275 --> 01:08:33,942
It's another call from America.

1256
01:08:33,943 --> 01:08:36,737
I told you, sweetie,
just tell any journalist, "No."

1257
01:08:36,738 --> 01:08:39,948
N-No, she says
you worked together.

1258
01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:41,409
Pamela Lubell?

1259
01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:45,912
Hywel wants to take
his yellow pillow to Cornwall.

1260
01:08:45,913 --> 01:08:47,956
- No, we're not taking...
- So?

1261
01:08:47,957 --> 01:08:49,958
We're not taking any pillows.

1262
01:08:49,959 --> 01:08:51,753
- Why?
- Pamela?

1263
01:08:52,795 --> 01:08:54,589
God.

1264
01:08:56,424 --> 01:08:57,924
Hi, Pamela. How are you?

1265
01:08:57,925 --> 01:08:59,384
It's been decades.

1266
01:08:59,385 --> 01:09:00,927
PAMELA I know, Laura.

1267
01:09:00,928 --> 01:09:03,555
It's really been a while.
How's life?

1268
01:09:03,556 --> 01:09:05,098
It's good.

1269
01:09:05,099 --> 01:09:07,976
How's everything? How are you?

1270
01:09:07,977 --> 01:09:10,228
Yeah, I'm okay.

1271
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:11,605
That's great.

1272
01:09:11,606 --> 01:09:14,608
Laura, have you had any calls
from reporters

1273
01:09:14,609 --> 01:09:17,486
trying to write stories
about Harvey?

1274
01:09:17,487 --> 01:09:19,488
I-I have, actually. Yes.

1275
01:09:19,489 --> 01:09:22,324
I didn't talk to them.

1276
01:09:22,325 --> 01:09:24,242
Good. That's good to hear.

1277
01:09:24,243 --> 01:09:26,036
Cockroach journalists.

1278
01:09:26,037 --> 01:09:28,747
It was great, wasn't it,
back then?

1279
01:09:28,748 --> 01:09:31,666
Harvey was always very generous.

1280
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:34,378
That wasn't my experience.

1281
01:09:34,379 --> 01:09:38,590
Laura, can I have your assurance
that you won't talk to anyone?

1282
01:09:38,591 --> 01:09:41,635
What? What did you say?

1283
01:09:41,636 --> 01:09:45,013
If you have a project,
I can take it to Harvey.

1284
01:09:45,014 --> 01:09:46,640
I don't.

1285
01:09:46,641 --> 01:09:48,768
And I'll talk to who I please.

1286
01:10:03,116 --> 01:10:04,741
Good evening.
- Good evening.

1287
01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:06,618
I need to book
a flight to Cornwall

1288
01:10:06,619 --> 01:10:07,953
first thing in the morning.

1289
01:10:07,954 --> 01:10:10,539
- Flight to Cornwall tomorrow?
- Yes.

1290
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:12,874
To Newquay Airport?

1291
01:10:12,875 --> 01:10:14,251
- Newquay.

1292
01:10:14,252 --> 01:10:15,544
You'd normally just get a train.

1293
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:17,546
Okay, train, then.

1294
01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:33,603
This is a nice place
for a vacation.

1295
01:10:33,604 --> 01:10:35,021
- Yeah.
- Mum.

1296
01:10:35,022 --> 01:10:37,023
Hi.
- Um, Hywel wants to play at the rocks.

1297
01:10:37,024 --> 01:10:38,024
Is that okay?

1298
01:10:38,025 --> 01:10:40,319
- Yeah, sure.
- Okay.

1299
01:10:41,529 --> 01:10:43,196
Is that your eldest?

1300
01:10:43,197 --> 01:10:44,824
Yes.

1301
01:10:45,741 --> 01:10:47,493
Yes. She's 13.

1302
01:10:49,579 --> 01:10:51,121
You grew up in Ireland?

1303
01:10:51,122 --> 01:10:54,082
I did, yes.

1304
01:10:54,083 --> 01:10:58,837
And your first job was
wrangling extras in '92?

1305
01:10:58,838 --> 01:11:01,089
They were shooting near us.

1306
01:11:01,090 --> 01:11:02,841
I loved it.

1307
01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:05,719
And then I heard that Miramax
were making a film nearby,

1308
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,180
and I got a job
as a runner on that.

1309
01:11:08,181 --> 01:11:10,892
I was ecstatic. It was great.

1310
01:11:11,684 --> 01:11:15,479
And you met
Harvey Weinstein when?

1311
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:17,063
Soon after that.

1312
01:11:17,064 --> 01:11:19,816
I was going to be
working directly for him.

1313
01:11:19,817 --> 01:11:23,028
Doing errands, answering calls.

1314
01:11:23,029 --> 01:11:25,907
I was very happy to be asked.

1315
01:11:27,742 --> 01:11:29,284
He was charming.

1316
01:11:29,285 --> 01:11:32,954
He was saying
he'd heard how hard I worked.

1317
01:11:32,955 --> 01:11:35,917
And I was just excited.

1318
01:11:36,667 --> 01:11:41,339
I was 21, you know,
very young but incredibly keen.

1319
01:11:42,423 --> 01:11:44,758
So when he said
he'd give me a permanent job

1320
01:11:44,759 --> 01:11:48,929
at the London office,
I felt so happy.

1321
01:11:48,930 --> 01:11:51,056
He said that in the meeting?

1322
01:11:51,057 --> 01:11:52,432
Yes.

1323
01:11:52,433 --> 01:11:55,810
He was in his bathrobe
when he opened the door,

1324
01:11:55,811 --> 01:12:00,607
but I thought
that was maybe very Hollywood.

1325
01:12:00,608 --> 01:12:03,235
But quite soon into talking,

1326
01:12:03,236 --> 01:12:06,113
he said,
would I give him a massage?

1327
01:12:08,407 --> 01:12:10,367
I-I said no.

1328
01:12:10,368 --> 01:12:11,743
He was very matter-of-fact.

1329
01:12:11,744 --> 01:12:14,120
He said it's not
a romantic request.

1330
01:12:14,121 --> 01:12:16,623
Everyone does it for him.

1331
01:12:16,624 --> 01:12:18,626
It's part of the job.

1332
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,966
So, I suddenly thought that
I was the problem, you know.

1333
01:12:25,967 --> 01:12:29,636
That I was the one
who was sexualizing it.

1334
01:12:29,637 --> 01:12:33,139
That I was just
young and uptight.

1335
01:12:33,140 --> 01:12:34,725
So, I...

1336
01:12:35,685 --> 01:12:37,769
I put my hands on his shoulders,

1337
01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:42,857
but I couldn't actually
move them at all over his body.

1338
01:12:42,858 --> 01:12:45,151
I just stood there.

1339
01:12:45,152 --> 01:12:47,195
My hands wouldn't move.

1340
01:12:47,196 --> 01:12:52,617
And then he said he would
give me a massage first.

1341
01:12:52,618 --> 01:12:54,662
To relax me.

1342
01:12:56,914 --> 01:13:01,084
And he said,
"Look, all the girls do it.

1343
01:13:01,085 --> 01:13:03,587
It's just work."

1344
01:13:03,588 --> 01:13:06,381
And then he said,
"Take your top off."

1345
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:08,883
Very matter-of-fact.

1346
01:13:08,884 --> 01:13:11,095
"Take your bra off."

1347
01:13:15,725 --> 01:13:18,476
And I did.

1348
01:13:18,477 --> 01:13:22,731
I was terrified,
but I just thought,

1349
01:13:22,732 --> 01:13:25,735
"Get through it. Do it."

1350
01:13:27,528 --> 01:13:29,654
And then my trousers were off,

1351
01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:33,908
and he was standing over me...

1352
01:13:33,909 --> 01:13:36,244
masturbating.

1353
01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:40,081
I asked him to leave me alone,

1354
01:13:40,082 --> 01:13:43,251
but he kept asking
for different things.

1355
01:13:43,252 --> 01:13:46,839
And then he suggested a shower,
and I got up.

1356
01:13:47,632 --> 01:13:51,092
And he carried on...

1357
01:13:51,093 --> 01:13:53,261
masturbating.

1358
01:13:53,262 --> 01:13:55,388
And I kept crying.

1359
01:13:55,389 --> 01:13:58,224
And I was sobbing,
and the water was pouring down,

1360
01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:03,189
and he was still masturbating.

1361
01:14:04,023 --> 01:14:05,565
Then he got angry.

1362
01:14:05,566 --> 01:14:09,694
I think my crying was so loud
it put him off.

1363
01:14:09,695 --> 01:14:14,825
And he left the bathroom,
and I locked the door.

1364
01:14:16,327 --> 01:14:20,288
And I could still hear him
on the other side.

1365
01:14:20,289 --> 01:14:23,959
Still the sounds
of him masturbating.

1366
01:14:25,795 --> 01:14:28,004
Finally, I went back
into the room itself

1367
01:14:28,005 --> 01:14:32,092
and grabbed my clothes
and belongings, and I just ran.

1368
01:14:32,093 --> 01:14:34,344
I ran down the street.

1369
01:14:34,345 --> 01:14:38,432
I've never run
that fast in my life.

1370
01:14:44,271 --> 01:14:46,816
How do you feel about it now?

1371
01:14:52,863 --> 01:14:55,448
I...

1372
01:14:55,449 --> 01:14:57,742
I... I feel like

1373
01:14:57,743 --> 01:15:02,080
it dictated a certain direction
my life took.

1374
01:15:02,081 --> 01:15:05,917
That... I just felt that it was
this huge e-error of judgment

1375
01:15:05,918 --> 01:15:09,630
that sort of marked me
and all my decisions.

1376
01:15:10,756 --> 01:15:12,216
And...

1377
01:15:13,884 --> 01:15:16,512
I felt such shame...

1378
01:15:18,264 --> 01:15:21,976
that I let him do that.

1379
01:15:24,395 --> 01:15:27,230
Did you think that he had done
the same to other girls?

1380
01:15:27,231 --> 01:15:29,734
I thought that
he must've tried it.

1381
01:15:31,485 --> 01:15:34,196
But that they'd all s...

1382
01:15:35,656 --> 01:15:37,867
they'd all said no.

1383
01:15:41,412 --> 01:15:45,124
It was like he t-took
my voice that day.

1384
01:15:47,168 --> 01:15:52,047
Just when I was
about to start finding it.

1385
01:16:00,222 --> 01:16:01,639
Yes?

1386
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:02,849
WOMAN I have Harvey Weinstein

1387
01:16:02,850 --> 01:16:04,851
on the phone for you.

1388
01:16:04,852 --> 01:16:07,146
Put him through. Thank you.

1389
01:16:09,023 --> 01:16:11,274
Dean, how are you?
This is Harvey.

1390
01:16:11,275 --> 01:16:13,902
Hi, Harvey.
What can I do for you?

1391
01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:16,906
If I hadn't made movies,
I would've been a journalist.

1392
01:16:17,823 --> 01:16:20,742
Dean, I heard someone was
working on a story about me.

1393
01:16:20,743 --> 01:16:23,369
Yes. If you'd like to talk
to the reporters on the record,

1394
01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:25,830
- they'd welcome that.
- I want to talk to you, Dean.

1395
01:16:25,831 --> 01:16:28,124
Well, talk to my reporters
about your concerns.

1396
01:16:28,125 --> 01:16:30,293
I'm sorry. I have work to do.

1397
01:16:30,294 --> 01:16:31,586
Are you gonna hang up?

1398
01:16:31,587 --> 01:16:34,088
Unless you have
anything else to say.

1399
01:16:34,089 --> 01:16:35,965
I love the truth.

1400
01:16:35,966 --> 01:16:38,593
People make up stories a lot.

1401
01:16:38,594 --> 01:16:40,011
Be careful of that.

1402
01:16:40,012 --> 01:16:42,264
That's fine, Harvey. Goodbye.

1403
01:16:58,447 --> 01:17:00,114
- Hi, Chanel.
- Hey, Dean.

1404
01:17:00,115 --> 01:17:01,700
Hey, Tim.

1405
01:17:07,248 --> 01:17:10,250
- Matt, you got a minute?
- Yeah.

1406
01:17:10,251 --> 01:17:11,876
So, what do we have?

1407
01:17:11,877 --> 01:17:14,671
Well, the biggest thing is
the documents that Jodi got

1408
01:17:14,672 --> 01:17:16,297
from Zelda Perkins in London.

1409
01:17:16,298 --> 01:17:18,216
Rose is still off the record,

1410
01:17:18,217 --> 01:17:21,511
but she has given us permission
to write about her settlement.

1411
01:17:21,512 --> 01:17:23,805
We're just trying to figure out
a way to confirm it.

1412
01:17:23,806 --> 01:17:26,057
Harvey offered her
a million dollars recently

1413
01:17:26,058 --> 01:17:28,476
for her silence.

1414
01:17:28,477 --> 01:17:30,270
- And?
- Rose refused,

1415
01:17:30,271 --> 01:17:31,813
but she doesn't want us
to quote her.

1416
01:17:31,814 --> 01:17:33,606
There are still
no on-the-record sources.

1417
01:17:33,607 --> 01:17:34,899
NDAs are a problem.

1418
01:17:34,900 --> 01:17:37,151
Laura Madden didn't sign one.

1419
01:17:37,152 --> 01:17:40,071
She's the only ex-assistant who
is technically free to speak.

1420
01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:41,906
Ashley and Gwyneth
didn't sign one either,

1421
01:17:41,907 --> 01:17:43,449
but they're not ready
to go on the record.

1422
01:17:43,450 --> 01:17:45,368
But Laura Madden
has to deal with something

1423
01:17:45,369 --> 01:17:47,829
- very different right now.
- She has breast cancer.

1424
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:50,832
She has to go into surgery,
so it's not likely.

1425
01:17:50,833 --> 01:17:52,792
I'm still leaving messages
for Rowena Chiu,

1426
01:17:52,793 --> 01:17:55,128
but there's no engagement.

1427
01:17:55,129 --> 01:17:56,588
So, no more proven settlements.

1428
01:17:56,589 --> 01:17:59,424
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
almost certainly settled.

1429
01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:01,718
And John Schmidt confirmed
that Miramax settled

1430
01:18:01,719 --> 01:18:03,344
with the woman
I visited in Queens.

1431
01:18:03,345 --> 01:18:05,430
Anything more on the article
from The New Yorker?

1432
01:18:05,431 --> 01:18:06,806
No.

1433
01:18:06,807 --> 01:18:10,643
Lanny Davis and David Boies
want to come talk to us.

1434
01:18:10,644 --> 01:18:12,228
What do you think?

1435
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:14,188
Don't we want to wait
and push for

1436
01:18:14,189 --> 01:18:16,190
an on-the-record interview
with Weinstein?

1437
01:18:16,191 --> 01:18:17,317
It's your call, Binky.

1438
01:18:17,318 --> 01:18:20,194
I'd like to talk to Lanny
at least.

1439
01:18:20,195 --> 01:18:21,863
See what he has to say.

1440
01:18:21,864 --> 01:18:23,698
Harvey's not
always that rational.

1441
01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:25,867
The reason I'm here
as his representative

1442
01:18:25,868 --> 01:18:27,535
is not to try to kill anything.

1443
01:18:27,536 --> 01:18:29,787
I want to know that
if you're including something

1444
01:18:29,788 --> 01:18:32,916
like Rósa McGowan's claim,
then we can defend that.

1445
01:18:32,917 --> 01:18:34,375
Of course.

1446
01:18:34,376 --> 01:18:36,086
Please.

1447
01:18:39,423 --> 01:18:43,384
I know you'll be investigating
with due diligence.

1448
01:18:43,385 --> 01:18:44,636
- Lanny...
- Mm-hmm?

1449
01:18:44,637 --> 01:18:46,346
You'll have
every chance to respond.

1450
01:18:46,347 --> 01:18:48,514
Oh. Uh...

1451
01:18:48,515 --> 01:18:50,433
And I trust
it's okay to record this?

1452
01:18:50,434 --> 01:18:52,769
Oh, of course. Sure.

1453
01:18:52,770 --> 01:18:56,397
I don't expect you to name
sources, but if it's possible

1454
01:18:56,398 --> 01:18:59,817
for you to let me know overall
what your story's about?

1455
01:18:59,818 --> 01:19:02,403
We're looking into
problematic behavior

1456
01:19:02,404 --> 01:19:04,406
towards women by Weinstein.

1457
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:07,700
Okay.

1458
01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:11,663
Harvey adamantly denies any
allegation of rape or assault.

1459
01:19:11,664 --> 01:19:13,289
Nothing criminal.

1460
01:19:13,290 --> 01:19:17,585
But he is aware of complaints
about his treatment of women,

1461
01:19:17,586 --> 01:19:20,047
and he is working on that.

1462
01:19:20,839 --> 01:19:24,133
Powerful men
of an older generation

1463
01:19:24,134 --> 01:19:25,593
are changing their understanding

1464
01:19:25,594 --> 01:19:27,553
of the meaning of the word
"consensual."

1465
01:19:27,554 --> 01:19:29,555
Why women don't feel
it's consensual

1466
01:19:29,556 --> 01:19:32,433
even if a man
convinces himself it is.

1467
01:19:32,434 --> 01:19:34,978
Do you want to expand on that?

1468
01:19:34,979 --> 01:19:37,563
Uh, I believe

1469
01:19:37,564 --> 01:19:40,733
there's a story to be told
about the evolution of men.

1470
01:19:40,734 --> 01:19:43,277
And, in particular, Harvey
on this subject.

1471
01:19:43,278 --> 01:19:46,114
Uh, would he be willing
to talk to us about it?

1472
01:19:46,115 --> 01:19:48,283
On the record.

1473
01:19:49,201 --> 01:19:51,786
He has to deal with
his wife and children

1474
01:19:51,787 --> 01:19:53,163
before anything else.

1475
01:19:53,956 --> 01:19:59,293
You're adamant Rose McGowan's
rape accusation is false.

1476
01:19:59,294 --> 01:20:01,212
Why is that?

1477
01:20:01,213 --> 01:20:02,839
Did she tell anybody right away?

1478
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,382
Did she show
any signs of distress?

1479
01:20:04,383 --> 01:20:07,302
She told her manager
and a lawyer.

1480
01:20:09,263 --> 01:20:12,015
Harvey was aware that
there was a problem with Rose,

1481
01:20:12,016 --> 01:20:14,600
but not that
she was accusing him of rape.

1482
01:20:14,601 --> 01:20:17,186
So I draw a bright line
on the word "rape."

1483
01:20:17,187 --> 01:20:19,605
Anything below that line,

1484
01:20:19,606 --> 01:20:22,608
uh, he was aware of
feelings, concerns.

1485
01:20:22,609 --> 01:20:24,152
Of what kind?

1486
01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:25,486
I'm sorry. What...

1487
01:20:25,487 --> 01:20:27,739
If the concerns
were not about rape,

1488
01:20:27,740 --> 01:20:29,700
what were they about?

1489
01:20:31,452 --> 01:20:34,455
The only way I can answer
is, um...

1490
01:20:35,831 --> 01:20:37,457
a sense of exploitation

1491
01:20:37,458 --> 01:20:41,836
because of that
disparate power relationship.

1492
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:45,840
There's mental coercion
that isn't physical coercion.

1493
01:20:45,841 --> 01:20:48,301
Lisa Bloom has been
working with Harvey

1494
01:20:48,302 --> 01:20:50,053
to help him
recognize the difference.

1495
01:20:50,054 --> 01:20:51,304
Lisa Bloom?

1496
01:20:51,305 --> 01:20:53,139
Yeah.

1497
01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:55,808
If Harvey had been made aware

1498
01:20:55,809 --> 01:21:00,856
of McGowan's concerns
at the time, how did he respond?

1499
01:21:02,107 --> 01:21:04,525
I think he had dealings legally
with her about them.

1500
01:21:04,526 --> 01:21:09,031
And how would you characterize
those legal dealings?

1501
01:21:10,699 --> 01:21:12,366
I think he became aware that

1502
01:21:12,367 --> 01:21:15,119
she did not regard
what happened as okay with her.

1503
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,704
I'm not talking about rape.

1504
01:21:16,705 --> 01:21:20,875
I'm talking about the effect
he had on Rose McGowan.

1505
01:21:20,876 --> 01:21:23,504
And that rather than fighting...

1506
01:21:24,338 --> 01:21:25,922
"Rather than fighting"?

1507
01:21:25,923 --> 01:21:29,051
Then... then what?

1508
01:21:31,512 --> 01:21:34,680
I-I think he has agreed
to settlements

1509
01:21:34,681 --> 01:21:37,350
rather than litigating
what might have been litigated.

1510
01:21:37,351 --> 01:21:40,436
As Harvey saw it,
it was better to settle,

1511
01:21:40,437 --> 01:21:42,271
even if you haven't done
anything wrong.

1512
01:21:42,272 --> 01:21:44,483
He preferred to settle.

1513
01:21:46,068 --> 01:21:49,612
Were there other cases of
questionable intimate relations

1514
01:21:49,613 --> 01:21:52,157
with women
in which Weinstein settled?

1515
01:21:54,409 --> 01:21:58,121
Let's say for now,
even on a background basis,

1516
01:21:58,122 --> 01:22:00,665
that I need to find out
what my limits are legally.

1517
01:22:00,666 --> 01:22:04,585
Even if on background,
I'm confirming settlements.

1518
01:22:04,586 --> 01:22:09,091
But the-the answer is yes,
there have been.

1519
01:22:11,885 --> 01:22:13,887
How many?

1520
01:22:15,597 --> 01:22:17,182
No.

1521
01:22:19,768 --> 01:22:23,271
To admit to settlements this
early, they're in real trouble.

1522
01:22:23,272 --> 01:22:25,106
- We need to find out a number.

1523
01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:26,649
We need to corroborate each one.

1524
01:22:26,650 --> 01:22:28,609
- I'm on it.

1525
01:22:28,610 --> 01:22:32,572
Have you guys had any dealings
with Diana Filip?

1526
01:22:32,573 --> 01:22:34,657
No.
- I said no to speaking at a women's conference.

1527
01:22:34,658 --> 01:22:37,827
- She just keeps on calling me.
- Did you have her checked out?

1528
01:22:37,828 --> 01:22:39,537
Security consultant says
she's legit,

1529
01:22:39,538 --> 01:22:41,707
but who has time
for these random people?

1530
01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:56,262
Hello?

1531
01:22:56,263 --> 01:22:57,763
WOMAN I worked at Miramax.

1532
01:22:57,764 --> 01:23:00,017
Talk to Irwin Reiter.
He hates Weinstein.

1533
01:23:11,486 --> 01:23:13,196
Hey. Are you okay?

1534
01:23:13,197 --> 01:23:16,032
JODI Did I wake you?

1535
01:23:16,033 --> 01:23:18,618
Um, yeah. What's up?

1536
01:23:18,619 --> 01:23:21,955
What do you know
about Irwin Reiter?

1537
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,209
Hang on.
I put together a file on him.

1538
01:23:26,210 --> 01:23:29,504
I need to write
a good fucking email.

1539
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:44,101
Hi. Thanks for meeting me.

1540
01:23:44,102 --> 01:23:45,938
You want to get me killed?

1541
01:23:53,195 --> 01:23:57,698
So, Irwin, you've been an
accountant for the Weinsteins

1542
01:23:57,699 --> 01:23:59,451
for 30 years.

1543
01:24:02,412 --> 01:24:03,955
I pick up the check,

1544
01:24:03,956 --> 01:24:05,996
and I reserve the right
to leave after five minutes.

1545
01:24:06,959 --> 01:24:10,336
So, um...
what do you want to know?

1546
01:24:10,337 --> 01:24:12,755
We have information
on several settlements

1547
01:24:12,756 --> 01:24:14,465
that Weinstein made in the '90s,

1548
01:24:14,466 --> 01:24:17,176
paid to actresses
and ex-employees.

1549
01:24:17,177 --> 01:24:20,472
Could you tell me anything
about that?

1550
01:24:22,599 --> 01:24:24,850
Could you confirm
those settlements

1551
01:24:24,851 --> 01:24:26,477
and how it was
from your perspective?

1552
01:24:26,478 --> 01:24:28,438
My perspective?

1553
01:24:29,481 --> 01:24:31,942
Would it be company money
that was used?

1554
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,904
You wrote that we're from
the same tiny world.

1555
01:24:36,905 --> 01:24:38,155
Yeah.

1556
01:24:38,156 --> 01:24:40,283
Summers at bungalows
in the Catskills.

1557
01:24:40,284 --> 01:24:42,994
Meals at Lefty's and Pop-Ins.

1558
01:24:42,995 --> 01:24:45,830
What do you remember
about those holidays?

1559
01:24:45,831 --> 01:24:49,166
Gosh, I remember so many things.

1560
01:24:49,167 --> 01:24:50,918
It's the first time
I remember seeing

1561
01:24:50,919 --> 01:24:53,170
my grandmother's arms bare.

1562
01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:57,800
I knew those tattoos meant
something seismic.

1563
01:24:57,801 --> 01:24:59,677
Yeah, h-how did you know?

1564
01:24:59,678 --> 01:25:01,053
I just sensed it.

1565
01:25:01,054 --> 01:25:04,057
Did your family discuss it?

1566
01:25:07,311 --> 01:25:10,062
Who else are you talking to?

1567
01:25:10,063 --> 01:25:12,399
I can't disclose that, Irwin.

1568
01:25:14,568 --> 01:25:17,903
You know, my parents,
uh, they couldn't go there.

1569
01:25:17,904 --> 01:25:20,282
They rarely discussed it.

1570
01:25:21,658 --> 01:25:23,744
It's so mysterious, isn't it?

1571
01:25:24,578 --> 01:25:26,871
Why some families talk.

1572
01:25:26,872 --> 01:25:28,498
Some don't.

1573
01:25:30,167 --> 01:25:35,212
The money Weinstein was
spending was, you know, crazy.

1574
01:25:35,213 --> 01:25:36,173
I tried.

1575
01:25:36,174 --> 01:25:37,798
I tried many times to

1576
01:25:37,799 --> 01:25:40,843
get the board to do something
about him, but they just kept

1577
01:25:40,844 --> 01:25:43,387
ignoring his behavior
and keeping him on.

1578
01:25:43,388 --> 01:25:45,432
Why is that?

1579
01:25:46,391 --> 01:25:49,352
Have you talked to L.O.C.?

1580
01:25:49,353 --> 01:25:51,687
Or, uh, Z.P.?

1581
01:25:51,688 --> 01:25:53,981
Who is L.O.C.?

1582
01:25:53,982 --> 01:25:56,275
There was this memo.

1583
01:25:56,276 --> 01:25:59,278
Let me ask you something, Jodi,
that's really puzzling me.

1584
01:25:59,279 --> 01:26:02,114
Why are you asking
about the '90s

1585
01:26:02,115 --> 01:26:05,869
when Weinstein has committed
so many more recent offenses?

1586
01:26:07,245 --> 01:26:09,663
I got to go.

1587
01:26:09,664 --> 01:26:11,958
- I'll give you a call.
- Irwin.

1588
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:46,951
Mom.

1589
01:26:46,952 --> 01:26:48,702
I had a nightmare.

1590
01:26:48,703 --> 01:26:51,790
- Oh, honey, come here.

1591
01:26:57,337 --> 01:26:59,672
It's okay. It's okay.

1592
01:26:59,673 --> 01:27:01,382
I heard that
Ambra Battilana Gutierrez

1593
01:27:01,383 --> 01:27:03,509
just got
a seven-figure settlement.

1594
01:27:03,510 --> 01:27:07,514
And that Weinstein now owns
the audio of the incident?

1595
01:27:08,890 --> 01:27:11,934
These settlements, Lanny...

1596
01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:13,437
what are we talking?

1597
01:27:14,771 --> 01:27:17,022
I can't tell you that, Megan.

1598
01:27:17,023 --> 01:27:18,399
You know that.

1599
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,151
I'm not talking about
naming you, of course.

1600
01:27:20,152 --> 01:27:23,821
It would just be great
for background

1601
01:27:23,822 --> 01:27:25,239
to know a number

1602
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,076
of the other settlements
that you're aware of.

1603
01:27:28,869 --> 01:27:31,162
- I'm not a bad guy here.
- I know that.

1604
01:27:31,163 --> 01:27:33,622
My profession is
to get the facts

1605
01:27:33,623 --> 01:27:36,417
into the hands
of reporters, but...

1606
01:27:36,418 --> 01:27:39,254
you know, I can't help.

1607
01:27:41,923 --> 01:27:44,718
I keep getting 40 in my head.

1608
01:27:45,969 --> 01:27:48,638
Which would be
ridiculous, right?

1609
01:27:51,183 --> 01:27:52,851
Right?

1610
01:27:55,937 --> 01:27:57,314
It's not 40.

1611
01:27:59,691 --> 01:28:03,611
Seriously, it's-it's,
uh, less than 40.

1612
01:28:03,612 --> 01:28:05,613
Good. That's a relief.

1613
01:28:05,614 --> 01:28:07,240
- Sure.

1614
01:28:09,075 --> 01:28:11,161
So...

1615
01:28:11,953 --> 01:28:15,831
less than half of 40, then?

1616
01:28:15,832 --> 01:28:16,916
Check.

1617
01:28:16,917 --> 01:28:18,459
Oh, and what the fuck, Lanny?

1618
01:28:18,460 --> 01:28:20,878
We heard that Ronan Farrow
is working on a story.

1619
01:28:20,879 --> 01:28:21,921
No, no.

1620
01:28:21,922 --> 01:28:24,799
That is done. Over.

1621
01:28:26,259 --> 01:28:28,929
I don't see you
as a bad guy, Lanny.

1622
01:28:29,763 --> 01:28:32,348
I-I don't. I never have.
I respect you.

1623
01:28:32,349 --> 01:28:34,017
Uh, I respect you.

1624
01:28:38,939 --> 01:28:42,107
This is all
gonna come out, Lanny.

1625
01:28:42,108 --> 01:28:44,109
Publicly.

1626
01:28:44,110 --> 01:28:45,612
Generally does.

1627
01:28:47,656 --> 01:28:49,783
- Okay.

1628
01:28:51,576 --> 01:28:54,454
Wh... What am I laughing about?

1629
01:28:56,289 --> 01:28:59,584
Oh, Megan.

1630
01:29:00,669 --> 01:29:02,003
Lanny.

1631
01:29:10,554 --> 01:29:12,806
I'd say eight to 12 settlements.

1632
01:29:25,694 --> 01:29:28,696
And do you think that's normal?

1633
01:29:28,697 --> 01:29:30,782
For men to make so many payoffs?

1634
01:29:36,037 --> 01:29:38,873
I do. Yeah.

1635
01:29:42,294 --> 01:29:44,962
It feels like we're so close.

1636
01:29:44,963 --> 01:29:49,008
Do you think we'll get it?
What if we don't?

1637
01:29:49,009 --> 01:29:50,593
I'm having nightmares about him.

1638
01:29:50,594 --> 01:29:53,470
- Oh, my God. I have them, too.
- Yeah?

1639
01:29:53,471 --> 01:29:55,389
I'm terrified we know all this

1640
01:29:55,390 --> 01:29:58,809
and we might go to our graves
knowing it.

1641
01:29:58,810 --> 01:30:00,269
The story will run.

1642
01:30:00,270 --> 01:30:03,772
My worry is people won't care.

1643
01:30:03,773 --> 01:30:07,192
And he won't even be
slowed down, let alone stopped.

1644
01:30:07,193 --> 01:30:09,570
It's like
an ocean of wrongdoing.

1645
01:30:09,571 --> 01:30:11,071
I mean, can you imagine

1646
01:30:11,072 --> 01:30:14,533
how many Harveys there are
out there, every day?

1647
01:30:14,534 --> 01:30:16,745
I sometimes wonder...

1648
01:30:19,372 --> 01:30:23,168
when I had Mira, if...

1649
01:30:24,377 --> 01:30:28,297
if all the trauma,
not just in me but in...

1650
01:30:28,298 --> 01:30:31,717
but in all w-women I talked to,
if it just...

1651
01:30:31,718 --> 01:30:34,094
this darkness,
this constant violence,

1652
01:30:34,095 --> 01:30:36,806
if it just sort of imploded.

1653
01:30:37,724 --> 01:30:42,395
Maybe-maybe that's part of
the depression that hits women.

1654
01:30:46,066 --> 01:30:49,277
Do you wish you hadn't
signed up for this story?

1655
01:30:50,945 --> 01:30:52,822
Do you?

1656
01:30:54,366 --> 01:30:57,661
No.

1657
01:31:04,042 --> 01:31:08,630
The last time we met,
you mentioned a memo?

1658
01:31:15,887 --> 01:31:19,515
It was, uh,
from an ex-executive,

1659
01:31:19,516 --> 01:31:21,350
and it was extensive, scathing.

1660
01:31:21,351 --> 01:31:22,935
She sent it to the board.

1661
01:31:22,936 --> 01:31:25,354
When was this?
How did they react?

1662
01:31:25,355 --> 01:31:27,356
Oh, it was a short burst
of behind-doors mayhem,

1663
01:31:27,357 --> 01:31:29,400
and then she left.

1664
01:31:29,401 --> 01:31:31,819
What did her memo say?

1665
01:31:31,820 --> 01:31:34,239
That the company was
a toxic environment.

1666
01:31:36,449 --> 01:31:38,159
Would anyone have a copy?

1667
01:31:45,166 --> 01:31:46,710
Hey.

1668
01:31:47,919 --> 01:31:50,672
- Sorry it's so late.
- Mm.

1669
01:31:53,299 --> 01:31:55,384
You okay?

1670
01:31:55,385 --> 01:31:57,511
Uh, Talia was up late.

1671
01:31:57,512 --> 01:31:58,971
Violet woke up twice.

1672
01:31:58,972 --> 01:32:01,390
I have an inbox
filled with enraged people

1673
01:32:01,391 --> 01:32:04,727
about this insurance story,
which is going to be huge.

1674
01:32:04,728 --> 01:32:08,397
There's already
hundreds of emails here,

1675
01:32:08,398 --> 01:32:09,773
and there is...

1676
01:32:09,774 --> 01:32:12,109
a hurricane
heading towards Florida.

1677
01:32:12,110 --> 01:32:14,403
So, I am going to somehow
fly down there

1678
01:32:14,404 --> 01:32:16,113
and move my dad someplace else

1679
01:32:16,114 --> 01:32:18,157
before he is
literally blown away.

1680
01:32:18,158 --> 01:32:21,535
And I have a slight
nervous twitch in my eye.

1681
01:32:21,536 --> 01:32:23,288
Let me see.

1682
01:32:31,713 --> 01:32:33,464
- Hey. Hey.
- Come here, Crabby.

1683
01:32:33,465 --> 01:32:35,549
- Get that raisin.
- Holly?

1684
01:32:35,550 --> 01:32:37,509
- Slow down!

1685
01:32:37,510 --> 01:32:39,887
Um, here. Will you hold
Crabby for a second?

1686
01:32:39,888 --> 01:32:41,306
Least they're having fun.

1687
01:32:42,432 --> 01:32:44,183
Hi. This is Jodi Kantor.

1688
01:32:44,184 --> 01:32:45,934
ROWENA This is Rowena Chiu.

1689
01:32:45,935 --> 01:32:47,644
I'm in New York.

1690
01:32:47,645 --> 01:32:49,731
Do you still want to meet up?

1691
01:32:50,565 --> 01:32:52,691
I couldn't tell anyone.

1692
01:32:52,692 --> 01:32:56,153
Not my parents,
not even my husband.

1693
01:32:56,154 --> 01:32:57,906
Why not?

1694
01:32:59,032 --> 01:33:01,492
I grew up
in an immigrant household.

1695
01:33:01,493 --> 01:33:04,077
I was taught
to keep my head down,

1696
01:33:04,078 --> 01:33:08,081
work hard and not draw
attention to myself, you know?

1697
01:33:08,082 --> 01:33:09,583
In Chinese culture,

1698
01:33:09,584 --> 01:33:13,378
I felt I had to protect
my family at all costs.

1699
01:33:13,379 --> 01:33:16,883
And I was young, scared.

1700
01:33:19,260 --> 01:33:22,639
Can you tell me anything about
what happened in Venice?

1701
01:33:25,016 --> 01:33:27,894
This is off the record, yeah?

1702
01:33:31,564 --> 01:33:33,106
I had the evening shifts,

1703
01:33:33,107 --> 01:33:36,235
going through notes
on screenplays with Harvey.

1704
01:33:36,236 --> 01:33:42,282
One night, we were working,
and he kept trying to touch me.

1705
01:33:42,283 --> 01:33:44,326
I didn't want to make him angry.

1706
01:33:44,327 --> 01:33:47,788
He's a very big man.

1707
01:33:47,789 --> 01:33:50,207
I kept trying
to get back to the notes.

1708
01:33:50,208 --> 01:33:53,418
And that went on
for a few hours,

1709
01:33:53,419 --> 01:33:55,379
just trying to avoid him.

1710
01:33:55,380 --> 01:33:57,549
How did you do that?

1711
01:33:58,591 --> 01:34:01,553
I would just fight him off.

1712
01:34:02,595 --> 01:34:04,513
I'd worn two pairs of tights

1713
01:34:04,514 --> 01:34:08,642
to buy me some time
if I ever needed it.

1714
01:34:08,643 --> 01:34:11,436
But finally,

1715
01:34:11,437 --> 01:34:14,690
he held me down.

1716
01:34:14,691 --> 01:34:18,903
Not forcefully,
but like it was a game.

1717
01:34:20,071 --> 01:34:24,324
Then he parted my legs,

1718
01:34:24,325 --> 01:34:26,327
and he said...

1719
01:34:27,453 --> 01:34:31,749
"Please, just one thrust,
and it'll all be over."

1720
01:34:35,795 --> 01:34:37,129
I got away.

1721
01:34:37,130 --> 01:34:39,047
I was traumatized.

1722
01:34:39,048 --> 01:34:40,299
I was a Christian.

1723
01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:43,093
I was still
with my first boyfriend.

1724
01:34:43,094 --> 01:34:45,596
And you shared this with Zelda?

1725
01:34:45,597 --> 01:34:51,101
Zelda was completely enraged
and very brave in facing him.

1726
01:34:51,102 --> 01:34:52,520
We both resigned.

1727
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:57,774
But I couldn't get a new job
after leaving Miramax.

1728
01:34:57,775 --> 01:34:59,902
Everyone kept saying,
if I worked for Harvey,

1729
01:34:59,903 --> 01:35:01,237
why would I leave?

1730
01:35:02,614 --> 01:35:05,282
The NDA that we signed,

1731
01:35:05,283 --> 01:35:07,701
it stipulated that
if I ever had trouble

1732
01:35:07,702 --> 01:35:11,455
getting a job in film again,
I was to go back to Harvey

1733
01:35:11,456 --> 01:35:13,875
or his lawyer Hutensky for help.

1734
01:35:14,667 --> 01:35:17,920
I asked them for a reference,

1735
01:35:17,921 --> 01:35:22,175
and Hutensky,
he kept repeating...

1736
01:35:24,344 --> 01:35:26,638
What? What was he saying?

1737
01:35:29,182 --> 01:35:32,560
How much Harvey valued me.

1738
01:35:36,189 --> 01:35:39,483
We agreed
I would return to Miramax

1739
01:35:39,484 --> 01:35:42,946
under strict conditions.

1740
01:35:44,072 --> 01:35:48,241
So I signed for Hong Kong.

1741
01:35:48,242 --> 01:35:51,745
I thought he would be
far enough away.

1742
01:35:51,746 --> 01:35:53,455
I thought I'd be okay.

1743
01:35:55,917 --> 01:35:58,252
But it was horrible.

1744
01:35:59,087 --> 01:36:00,545
I was a mess.

1745
01:36:00,546 --> 01:36:04,424
I felt incredibly alone.

1746
01:36:04,425 --> 01:36:06,593
I couldn't tell anyone about it,

1747
01:36:06,594 --> 01:36:11,265
and the isolation
just ate into me.

1748
01:36:19,399 --> 01:36:22,068
One day,
I disappeared from work.

1749
01:36:23,861 --> 01:36:26,030
I wanted to be dead.

1750
01:36:26,781 --> 01:36:29,449
I didn't know how to be,

1751
01:36:29,450 --> 01:36:32,996
how to keep going,
living with it.

1752
01:36:34,622 --> 01:36:40,169
I tried to kill myself,
but I didn't know how.

1753
01:36:41,879 --> 01:36:44,465
I felt I failed at even that.

1754
01:36:48,636 --> 01:36:50,763
I want to give you this.

1755
01:36:51,597 --> 01:36:54,141
It's a description
from an actress

1756
01:36:54,142 --> 01:36:56,185
you would know and recognize.

1757
01:37:00,398 --> 01:37:01,899
Mm.

1758
01:37:11,659 --> 01:37:12,993
What?

1759
01:37:12,994 --> 01:37:14,619
This person
won't go on the record.

1760
01:37:14,620 --> 01:37:17,081
I can't put her in the story.

1761
01:37:23,588 --> 01:37:26,965
Uh... I-I didn't...

1762
01:37:26,966 --> 01:37:30,386
I-I didn't know
anything like this.

1763
01:37:33,723 --> 01:37:36,808
I-I thought it was just
e-extramarital bullshit.

1764
01:37:36,809 --> 01:37:38,978
It's not.

1765
01:38:05,213 --> 01:38:07,381
Do with it what you want.

1766
01:38:58,641 --> 01:39:00,100
- MAN They have seen

1767
01:39:00,101 --> 01:39:03,145
not a single bit
of aid or assistance,

1768
01:39:03,146 --> 01:39:05,605
and it's about
45 minutes' drive...

1769
01:39:05,606 --> 01:39:07,190
Shit.

1770
01:39:07,191 --> 01:39:08,526
This is it.

1771
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:10,611
This is it.

1772
01:39:18,202 --> 01:39:22,455
For your records,
November 3rd, 2015.

1773
01:39:22,456 --> 01:39:25,458
I have experienced
repeated harassment and abuse

1774
01:39:25,459 --> 01:39:27,711
from the head of this company.

1775
01:39:27,712 --> 01:39:32,674
I am a 28-year-old woman trying
to make a living and a career.

1776
01:39:32,675 --> 01:39:34,342
I am a professional.

1777
01:39:34,343 --> 01:39:37,053
I am sexualized and diminished.

1778
01:39:37,054 --> 01:39:39,431
I have been fearful
about speaking up,

1779
01:39:39,432 --> 01:39:43,059
but remaining silent
is causing me great distress.

1780
01:39:43,060 --> 01:39:45,020
He told me, "I'm a bad boy,

1781
01:39:45,021 --> 01:39:47,647
but what's important
is that I'm honest about it."

1782
01:39:47,648 --> 01:39:51,443
He said the only thing I was
good for was making babies.

1783
01:39:51,444 --> 01:39:54,946
An assistant told me Harvey
made her give him a massage

1784
01:39:54,947 --> 01:39:56,364
while he was naked.

1785
01:39:56,365 --> 01:39:59,576
It was horrible
to see her so upset.

1786
01:39:59,577 --> 01:40:03,288
When I complained to their
human resources executive,

1787
01:40:03,289 --> 01:40:05,081
the response was,

1788
01:40:05,082 --> 01:40:09,002
"Let us know if he hits you
or crosses a line physically."

1789
01:40:09,003 --> 01:40:14,382
Harvey Weinstein is
a 64-year-old world-famous man,

1790
01:40:14,383 --> 01:40:16,009
and this is his company.

1791
01:40:16,010 --> 01:40:22,058
The balance of power is
me zero, Harvey Weinstein ten.

1792
01:40:30,775 --> 01:40:31,942
Go write.

1793
01:40:31,943 --> 01:40:33,860
You've got the story.

1794
01:40:33,861 --> 01:40:35,612
Once we publish,
everything else will come out.

1795
01:40:35,613 --> 01:40:37,239
And talk to Lauren O'Connor.

1796
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,324
Yeah... Get ahold of
the Weinstein Company board

1797
01:40:39,325 --> 01:40:40,408
for their response.

1798
01:40:40,409 --> 01:40:41,910
Let me call Lance Maerov.

1799
01:40:41,911 --> 01:40:44,121
Write it. Let's get ready.

1800
01:40:46,874 --> 01:40:49,668
My client does not
want to be named.

1801
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:52,545
That memo was never
for public distribution.

1802
01:40:52,546 --> 01:40:53,713
Lauren?

1803
01:40:53,714 --> 01:40:55,340
My client is here,

1804
01:40:55,341 --> 01:40:57,300
but she's too upset to speak.

1805
01:40:57,301 --> 01:40:59,094
Lauren, I'm sorry

1806
01:40:59,095 --> 01:41:00,428
this is difficult for you.

1807
01:41:00,429 --> 01:41:02,347
We're not gonna publish
the whole memo.

1808
01:41:02,348 --> 01:41:04,516
And we will make it
absolutely clear

1809
01:41:04,517 --> 01:41:07,978
you were not the source and
that you declined to comment.

1810
01:41:07,979 --> 01:41:11,314
But we do intend to use
your name for its credibility.

1811
01:41:11,315 --> 01:41:13,608
If you were
a victim of sexual assault,

1812
01:41:13,609 --> 01:41:16,486
we would absolutely keep
your anonymity.

1813
01:41:16,487 --> 01:41:18,405
But as a witness
to what went on,

1814
01:41:18,406 --> 01:41:21,825
it would make this story
much stronger to name you.

1815
01:41:21,826 --> 01:41:24,828
Hi, Lance. This is Megan Twohey
from The New York Times.

1816
01:41:24,829 --> 01:41:26,871
We have a memo here
from Lauren O'Connor

1817
01:41:26,872 --> 01:41:28,164
to The Weinstein Company.

1818
01:41:28,165 --> 01:41:29,749
- What? Sh...
- - We want to know,

1819
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:31,251
- what did you do about it?
- Shit.

1820
01:41:31,252 --> 01:41:33,796
What did the board do about it?

1821
01:41:38,551 --> 01:41:40,427
Lance?

1822
01:41:40,428 --> 01:41:41,720
We did try to change things

1823
01:41:41,721 --> 01:41:44,014
with the police complaint
in 2015.

1824
01:41:44,015 --> 01:41:45,265
What about this memo?

1825
01:41:45,266 --> 01:41:46,725
It was there
and then it was gone?

1826
01:41:46,726 --> 01:41:50,353
Look, we were all worried
about Harvey's behavior.

1827
01:41:50,354 --> 01:41:52,440
Can I quote you, Lance?

1828
01:41:55,234 --> 01:41:58,611
Yes. Yes, you can.

1829
01:41:58,612 --> 01:42:01,157
So, Lauren's complaint?

1830
01:42:04,035 --> 01:42:07,620
It was withdrawn
days after it was sent.

1831
01:42:07,621 --> 01:42:08,913
So, yeah, I let it go.

1832
01:42:08,914 --> 01:42:11,666
Well, why do you think
it was withdrawn?

1833
01:42:11,667 --> 01:42:14,169
I really don't know why.

1834
01:42:14,170 --> 01:42:17,130
Look, are you sure that
this isn't just young women

1835
01:42:17,131 --> 01:42:21,384
who want to sleep with a movie
producer to try to get ahead?

1836
01:42:21,385 --> 01:42:23,595
We have decades of allegations,

1837
01:42:23,596 --> 01:42:26,973
accusations of
harassment, assault,

1838
01:42:26,974 --> 01:42:29,602
rape and multiple settlements.

1839
01:42:31,937 --> 01:42:33,938
I know you're gonna need
to speak to the board,

1840
01:42:33,939 --> 01:42:36,858
but could you wait
until after the weekend?

1841
01:42:36,859 --> 01:42:39,320
Is that possible?

1842
01:42:41,655 --> 01:42:43,532
Okay.

1843
01:42:51,874 --> 01:42:55,001
Ashley, I know that
ideally a lot of women

1844
01:42:55,002 --> 01:42:59,172
would be jumping together,
but that's not what's happening.

1845
01:42:59,173 --> 01:43:01,758
But we do have
a series of incidents

1846
01:43:01,759 --> 01:43:03,802
and a predatory pattern.

1847
01:43:03,803 --> 01:43:05,637
You would be
coming forward alone,

1848
01:43:05,638 --> 01:43:09,100
but you would be standing
on a mountain of evidence.

1849
01:43:12,478 --> 01:43:14,020
Ashley?

1850
01:43:14,021 --> 01:43:17,982
Yes. I'll think
about it very seriously, Jodi.

1851
01:43:17,983 --> 01:43:19,317
I promise.

1852
01:43:19,318 --> 01:43:21,195
Thank you, Ashley.

1853
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:25,865
We go with what we have.

1854
01:43:25,866 --> 01:43:29,119
I know we need to be mindful
of The New Yorker,

1855
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:30,954
but couldn't we wait
just a little longer,

1856
01:43:30,955 --> 01:43:32,831
just-just for these women
to commit?

1857
01:43:32,832 --> 01:43:34,541
No. We need to publish.

1858
01:43:34,542 --> 01:43:35,959
It's nothing like
the whole story.

1859
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:37,877
This can be the first arrow.

1860
01:43:37,878 --> 01:43:39,629
More women will come forward
afterwards.

1861
01:43:39,630 --> 01:43:42,632
It could be
so much stronger, Dean.

1862
01:43:42,633 --> 01:43:44,926
It's solid.

1863
01:43:44,927 --> 01:43:46,469
We need to go.

1864
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:50,140
How much time will we give
Weinstein to respond?

1865
01:43:50,141 --> 01:43:52,517
- 24 hours?
- I'd double it.

1866
01:43:52,518 --> 01:43:53,810
48 hours.

1867
01:43:53,811 --> 01:43:55,812
- That's fair.
- - Two days?

1868
01:43:55,813 --> 01:43:58,231
How many people could
Harvey and his team talk to

1869
01:43:58,232 --> 01:44:00,067
in that amount of time?

1870
01:44:00,985 --> 01:44:02,193
David?

1871
01:44:02,194 --> 01:44:03,736
I'd go with Rebecca.

1872
01:44:03,737 --> 01:44:06,322
We want to be irreproachable
from the legal side.

1873
01:44:06,323 --> 01:44:08,575
Good. Let's call Lanny.

1874
01:44:08,576 --> 01:44:11,369
We'll ask to speak to Harvey
and his team at-00 tomorrow.

1875
01:44:11,370 --> 01:44:14,789
We'll tell them what we have
and give him, um,

1876
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:17,750
two days to respond or refute.

1877
01:44:27,636 --> 01:44:30,013
It's midnight. Go home.

1878
01:44:30,014 --> 01:44:32,056
- We will.
- Good night.

1879
01:44:50,493 --> 01:44:53,536
If just one of the women would
have gone on the record...

1880
01:44:53,537 --> 01:44:55,789
Why is he taking the tunnel?

1881
01:44:57,541 --> 01:44:59,626
We just needed one woman.

1882
01:44:59,627 --> 01:45:02,045
Jodi, stop it.

1883
01:45:02,046 --> 01:45:03,214
Let it go.

1884
01:45:09,261 --> 01:45:10,637
Maybe if we had been able

1885
01:45:10,638 --> 01:45:13,432
to get them all
into a room together.

1886
01:45:14,183 --> 01:45:15,935
A room would make no difference.

1887
01:45:17,269 --> 01:45:20,648
They don't want to go
on the record by themselves.

1888
01:45:22,441 --> 01:45:24,068
Would you want to?

1889
01:45:42,545 --> 01:45:44,672
Hi.

1890
01:45:46,757 --> 01:45:49,008
You. Hi.

1891
01:45:49,009 --> 01:45:51,095
Hi.

1892
01:46:03,148 --> 01:46:05,651
It's been two fucking hours.

1893
01:46:06,652 --> 01:46:11,156
It's a tactic,
but I have things to do.

1894
01:46:23,252 --> 01:46:25,044
- Hello?
- WOMAN Dean?

1895
01:46:25,045 --> 01:46:29,173
I have Harvey Weinstein and his
lawyer Charles Harder for you.

1896
01:46:29,174 --> 01:46:31,676
Okay, let's go, team.

1897
01:46:31,677 --> 01:46:33,971
- You ready?
- We're ready.

1898
01:46:35,264 --> 01:46:37,141
Put them through.

1899
01:46:40,519 --> 01:46:42,020
Harvey?

1900
01:46:42,021 --> 01:46:43,271
Charles?

1901
01:46:43,272 --> 01:46:45,189
Dean.

1902
01:46:45,190 --> 01:46:47,191
How do you want
to do this, Harvey?

1903
01:46:47,192 --> 01:46:49,527
I don't want to do this
is what I want.

1904
01:46:49,528 --> 01:46:52,071
Are they there? The reporters?

1905
01:46:52,072 --> 01:46:53,906
We're all here.

1906
01:46:53,907 --> 01:46:56,534
Who have you talked to?

1907
01:46:56,535 --> 01:46:59,454
We've sent you
who we're covering, Harvey.

1908
01:46:59,455 --> 01:47:01,206
Who have you talked to?

1909
01:47:05,252 --> 01:47:06,753
Harvey, we need some...

1910
01:47:06,754 --> 01:47:08,254
Are you talking
to Gwyneth Paltrow?

1911
01:47:08,255 --> 01:47:10,715
Gwyneth's not
in the story, Harvey.

1912
01:47:10,716 --> 01:47:13,259
Why don't you tell me
who's on the record

1913
01:47:13,260 --> 01:47:14,927
and let me respond to that?

1914
01:47:14,928 --> 01:47:16,597
DEAN Yeah.

1915
01:47:17,556 --> 01:47:19,557
Harvey, how many settlements

1916
01:47:19,558 --> 01:47:22,226
have you paid out
over the years?

1917
01:47:22,227 --> 01:47:24,312
We were told eight to 12.

1918
01:47:24,313 --> 01:47:26,981
That's you talking.
That's not me talking.

1919
01:47:26,982 --> 01:47:29,108
If Lanny spoke,
he spoke for himself

1920
01:47:29,109 --> 01:47:31,820
and not on behalf of his client.

1921
01:47:35,407 --> 01:47:38,159
How much time
are you giving us to respond?

1922
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,162
We need two weeks.

1923
01:47:41,288 --> 01:47:42,872
You'll have two days.

1924
01:47:42,873 --> 01:47:44,415
This goes back to the '90s.

1925
01:47:44,416 --> 01:47:46,876
If you mess up
and don't tell the truth,

1926
01:47:46,877 --> 01:47:48,753
how do you look yourself
in the eye?

1927
01:47:48,754 --> 01:47:52,132
It's been 90 minutes, Harvey,
and we're gonna wrap it up now.

1928
01:48:20,911 --> 01:48:23,663
Harvey's just disputed
Lanny's eight to 12.

1929
01:48:23,664 --> 01:48:25,123
We have to have corroboration.

1930
01:48:25,124 --> 01:48:27,792
Eight to 12 settlements
has to be backed up.

1931
01:48:27,793 --> 01:48:30,044
Who can you call at the
company? -

1932
01:48:30,045 --> 01:48:31,796
I'll ask David Glasser.

1933
01:48:31,797 --> 01:48:33,340
It's Ashley.

1934
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,843
Pick up. Answer it.

1935
01:48:36,844 --> 01:48:38,804
I am. I am.

1936
01:48:41,014 --> 01:48:43,307
Ashley.

1937
01:48:43,308 --> 01:48:44,726
How are you?

1938
01:48:44,727 --> 01:48:46,269
ASHLEY
I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.

1939
01:48:46,270 --> 01:48:47,979
I just went for a run.

1940
01:48:47,980 --> 01:48:49,397
That's great. That's great.

1941
01:48:49,398 --> 01:48:50,858
Running is good.

1942
01:48:51,817 --> 01:48:54,569
I talked to my lawyer,
and I've been thinking about

1943
01:48:54,570 --> 01:48:56,529
what the right thing to do is.

1944
01:48:56,530 --> 01:48:58,489
Yeah. Of course.

1945
01:48:58,490 --> 01:48:59,825
Of course.

1946
01:49:02,911 --> 01:49:04,163
And?

1947
01:49:06,582 --> 01:49:09,793
I'm prepared to be a named
source in your investigation.

1948
01:49:11,128 --> 01:49:12,504
I have to.

1949
01:49:13,380 --> 01:49:15,299
As a woman and a Christian.

1950
01:49:22,055 --> 01:49:24,183
Jodi?

1951
01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:26,059
Yes.

1952
01:49:26,060 --> 01:49:28,020
We'll speak soon.

1953
01:49:29,855 --> 01:49:31,189
Yes.

1954
01:49:31,190 --> 01:49:33,191
Ashley, thank you.

1955
01:49:33,192 --> 01:49:34,985
Thank you.

1956
01:49:36,570 --> 01:49:38,488
Ashley said yes.

1957
01:49:38,489 --> 01:49:39,990
She said yes.

1958
01:49:42,785 --> 01:49:43,868
Ashley said yes.

1959
01:49:43,869 --> 01:49:45,912
She did, Jodi. She did.

1960
01:49:45,913 --> 01:49:47,580
Okay.

1961
01:49:47,581 --> 01:49:49,540
Here we go with
the whole damn story.

1962
01:49:49,541 --> 01:49:51,626
The lede is
Ashley Judd's account

1963
01:49:51,627 --> 01:49:53,002
of the Peninsula suite.

1964
01:49:53,003 --> 01:49:55,087
Get a good Judd quote
to end the section.

1965
01:49:55,088 --> 01:49:56,631
- I'm on it.
- - We publish

1966
01:49:56,632 --> 01:49:59,551
as soon as the piece is in good shape.
- Let's go.

1967
01:50:37,756 --> 01:50:39,674
- GLASSER Hello?
- Hi, David.

1968
01:50:39,675 --> 01:50:41,509
This is Megan Twohey
from The New York Times.

1969
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:43,803
I thought it was fair to
give you, as company president,

1970
01:50:43,804 --> 01:50:45,012
a chance to comment.

1971
01:50:45,013 --> 01:50:46,682
Are you up to speed
with everything?

1972
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:49,475
I am.

1973
01:50:49,476 --> 01:50:52,436
The board had
an emergency conference call.

1974
01:50:52,437 --> 01:50:54,313
David, the eight
to 12 settlements,

1975
01:50:54,314 --> 01:50:55,940
we have conflicting reports.

1976
01:50:55,941 --> 01:50:57,859
We don't need to name you,
but would you confirm for me

1977
01:50:57,860 --> 01:50:59,902
that eight to 12 is accurate?

1978
01:50:59,903 --> 01:51:00,945
How many?

1979
01:51:00,946 --> 01:51:02,488
Eight to 12.

1980
01:51:02,489 --> 01:51:04,408
Are we safe using that figure?

1981
01:51:07,035 --> 01:51:08,871
Eight to 12.

1982
01:51:11,498 --> 01:51:13,624
Uh, yeah. Yes.
That's, uh, accurate.

1983
01:51:13,625 --> 01:51:16,503
I appreciate it, David.
Thank you.

1984
01:51:38,859 --> 01:51:42,029
David Glasser says yes
to eight to 12 settlements.

1985
01:51:45,908 --> 01:51:47,533
LANNY It's not enough time.

1986
01:51:47,534 --> 01:51:48,868
- And it's not just me here.
- - Right. Yeah.

1987
01:51:48,869 --> 01:51:50,286
You must know that, right?

1988
01:51:50,287 --> 01:51:52,538
Yeah.
I understand it's difficult.

1989
01:51:52,539 --> 01:51:54,165
What's happening?
Is Harvey on the phone?

1990
01:51:54,166 --> 01:51:57,209
It's Lanny. Weinstein is
refusing to give a response.

1991
01:51:57,210 --> 01:51:58,628
Okay.
Right?

1992
01:51:58,629 --> 01:52:00,713
Yeah. No, Lanny, I hear you.

1993
01:52:00,714 --> 01:52:03,674
Listen, I can't pull
a rabbit out of a hat here.

1994
01:52:03,675 --> 01:52:06,010
We need more time.
Here's the thing, Megan...

1995
01:52:06,011 --> 01:52:07,553
Lanny, I'm sick of this shit.

1996
01:52:07,554 --> 01:52:09,388
You've got five different
lawyers reaching out to us.

1997
01:52:09,389 --> 01:52:11,307
We're not talking
to five different lawyers.

1998
01:52:11,308 --> 01:52:15,562
Get your people in line and get
back to us with your response.

1999
01:52:22,527 --> 01:52:24,528
This is not a response.
This is a novel.

2000
01:52:24,529 --> 01:52:27,531
They call the women liars
and the journalism false.

2001
01:52:27,532 --> 01:52:29,325
It's legalistic bullying.

2002
01:52:29,326 --> 01:52:32,036
I sent back three paragraphs
to counter their 18 pages.

2003
01:52:32,037 --> 01:52:35,539
I've asked for their data,
and I invite them to court.

2004
01:52:35,540 --> 01:52:37,834
Uh, let's see how long
before they get back to us.

2005
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,379
Waiting time's up.

2006
01:52:41,380 --> 01:52:43,673
Weinstein wants to meet.
He's on his way here.

2007
01:52:43,674 --> 01:52:45,384
Do we let him in?

2008
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:50,304
Let him in.

2009
01:52:50,305 --> 01:52:52,140
I've got this.

2010
01:53:01,900 --> 01:53:03,150
- Hi, Lisa.
- - Hi.

2011
01:53:03,151 --> 01:53:04,777
- Is this everyone?
- Yeah.

2012
01:53:04,778 --> 01:53:06,405
Okay, follow me.

2013
01:53:10,951 --> 01:53:12,535
- That's what you're gonna do.

2014
01:53:12,536 --> 01:53:14,495
We have the folders.
We've got evidence.

2015
01:53:14,496 --> 01:53:16,330
- You're a good writer, Megan.
- Here you go.

2016
01:53:16,331 --> 01:53:19,291
Are you really willing to stake
your reputation on this story?

2017
01:53:19,292 --> 01:53:20,793
And he's smiling at her.

2018
01:53:20,794 --> 01:53:22,795
Would you be smiling
if this had happened to you?

2019
01:53:22,796 --> 01:53:25,881
None of these women
are credible witnesses.

2020
01:53:25,882 --> 01:53:28,300
- Nothing but thieves.
- She's a nut.

2021
01:53:28,301 --> 01:53:30,511
- She's a shakedown artist.

2022
01:54:00,542 --> 01:54:02,835
Is it there? Is it online?

2023
01:54:02,836 --> 01:54:04,253
Yes. They have it, too.

2024
01:54:04,254 --> 01:54:05,630
So it's in both.

2025
01:54:06,923 --> 01:54:08,842
What happened?

2026
01:54:09,676 --> 01:54:11,343
What you'd expect.

2027
01:54:11,344 --> 01:54:13,262
Trying to discredit
the actresses.

2028
01:54:13,263 --> 01:54:14,472
What's wrong?

2029
01:54:14,473 --> 01:54:16,599
Harvey and his team have spoken

2030
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,351
to Variety
and Hollywood Reporter.

2031
01:54:19,352 --> 01:54:21,562
- What?
- About us and the story.

2032
01:54:21,563 --> 01:54:23,815
He claims to be surprised by it.

2033
01:54:25,150 --> 01:54:26,735
This is bad.

2034
01:54:27,861 --> 01:54:29,612
You have to write fast.

2035
01:54:29,613 --> 01:54:31,030
We've just lost any privacy.

2036
01:54:32,532 --> 01:54:34,659
Let me see the lede.

2037
01:54:41,875 --> 01:54:44,335
No, I think that
we have to lead with this.

2038
01:54:44,336 --> 01:54:46,295
So that has to be
at the top of the paragraph.

2039
01:54:46,296 --> 01:54:47,797
I think it's fine as two,
don't you?

2040
01:54:47,798 --> 01:54:49,132
I think it's right.

2041
01:54:51,093 --> 01:54:53,678
Go home. I'll check this.

2042
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:56,972
Really?

2043
01:55:15,742 --> 01:55:17,743
And they're
really appealing to people.

2044
01:55:17,744 --> 01:55:20,287
If you know anything,
please come forward.

2045
01:55:32,467 --> 01:55:34,426
HARVEY Why shouldn't I just do

2046
01:55:34,427 --> 01:55:37,054
a fucking interview right now
with The Washington Post

2047
01:55:37,055 --> 01:55:39,223
based on
your lack of transparency?

2048
01:55:39,224 --> 01:55:41,433
You want some sort of list
of who we're talking to

2049
01:55:41,434 --> 01:55:43,936
for this story, and
if we don't disclose it to you,

2050
01:55:43,937 --> 01:55:45,396
you're threatening us?

2051
01:55:45,397 --> 01:55:47,773
If you're using
Gwyneth Paltrow, tell me.

2052
01:55:47,774 --> 01:55:49,733
We're not using Gwyneth Paltrow.

2053
01:55:49,734 --> 01:55:52,612
Are you talking
to Gwyneth Paltrow?

2054
01:55:53,613 --> 01:55:55,614
Hey, Harvey, this is Dean.
Here's the deal.

2055
01:55:55,615 --> 01:55:57,074
You need to give us
your statement now.

2056
01:55:57,075 --> 01:55:58,784
I'm about to push the button.

2057
01:55:58,785 --> 01:56:01,203
Dean, let me tell you something
about intimidation.

2058
01:56:01,204 --> 01:56:02,955
I'll talk to The Post. I will.

2059
01:56:02,956 --> 01:56:04,623
Call them. That's fine.

2060
01:56:04,624 --> 01:56:06,125
You can call The Post.

2061
01:56:06,126 --> 01:56:08,127
Harvey, I'm trying
to be fair with you.

2062
01:56:08,128 --> 01:56:09,628
You are intimidating me, Dean.

2063
01:56:09,629 --> 01:56:11,088
No, I'm trying
to get your statement.

2064
01:56:11,089 --> 01:56:12,715
Please give it to us now.

2065
01:56:12,716 --> 01:56:14,508
We're about to publish.

2066
01:56:14,509 --> 01:56:17,011
- I want to give it to you.
- Thank you.

2067
01:56:17,012 --> 01:56:18,304
Is Gwyneth in it?

2068
01:56:18,305 --> 01:56:19,889
DEAN and-
She's not in the story.

2069
01:56:19,890 --> 01:56:22,850
So here's what we need
to do, Harvey.

2070
01:56:22,851 --> 01:56:26,353
We want to give you every word
that you want to say.

2071
01:56:26,354 --> 01:56:27,897
So say it.

2072
01:56:27,898 --> 01:56:29,648
I also have
a newspaper to put out.

2073
01:56:29,649 --> 01:56:31,025
I'm gonna walk out.

2074
01:56:31,026 --> 01:56:34,069
Talk to my reporters. Take care.

2075
01:56:34,070 --> 01:56:35,404
Good luck.

2076
01:56:35,405 --> 01:56:37,948
You have a reckless
disregard for the truth.

2077
01:56:37,949 --> 01:56:41,869
You want a-a hit story,
and these allegations are false.

2078
01:56:41,870 --> 01:56:44,079
We don't want a hit story, Lisa.

2079
01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:45,789
Harvey's going to take
some time off

2080
01:56:45,790 --> 01:56:48,001
to focus on this issue.

2081
01:56:49,211 --> 01:56:51,003
Are you, Harvey?

2082
01:56:51,004 --> 01:56:54,215
Yes. I'm gonna take time off.

2083
01:56:54,216 --> 01:56:56,133
From the company?

2084
01:56:56,134 --> 01:56:59,053
Yes. I want to spend
some time learning.

2085
01:56:59,054 --> 01:57:00,721
Learning and listening to me.

2086
01:57:00,722 --> 01:57:03,140
He's going to take
a leave of absence.

2087
01:57:03,141 --> 01:57:05,643
Double space here.

2088
01:57:05,644 --> 01:57:07,853
- And here.

2089
01:57:07,854 --> 01:57:09,689
It's Laura.

2090
01:57:10,732 --> 01:57:12,107
Perfect.

2091
01:57:12,108 --> 01:57:14,818
Hi. Laura, how are you?

2092
01:57:14,819 --> 01:57:18,197
LAURA Yes, I'm okay.

2093
01:57:18,198 --> 01:57:21,408
Today's my surgery.
I'm about to go in.

2094
01:57:21,409 --> 01:57:26,455
Um, look, I never signed
any contract.

2095
01:57:26,456 --> 01:57:30,292
I'm not gagged,
and I want to speak out

2096
01:57:30,293 --> 01:57:32,879
on behalf of the women
who can't.

2097
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,298
I have three daughters,
and I don't want them

2098
01:57:36,299 --> 01:57:39,594
to ever accept
abuse or bullying as normal.

2099
01:57:40,804 --> 01:57:43,430
You can use anything I've said.

2100
01:57:43,431 --> 01:57:46,225
I'll do it.

2101
01:57:46,226 --> 01:57:48,520
I'll go on the record.

2102
01:57:49,688 --> 01:57:52,065
Thank you, Laura.

2103
01:57:53,108 --> 01:57:55,818
Thank you.

2104
01:57:55,819 --> 01:57:58,071
I'll be thinking of you.

2105
01:58:07,914 --> 01:58:09,665
- Oh, Laura.

2106
01:58:09,666 --> 01:58:12,085
Oh, beautiful, beautiful Laura.

2107
01:58:25,223 --> 01:58:26,557
Are you okay, Laura?

2108
01:58:26,558 --> 01:58:29,143
Yes. I'm fine.

2109
01:58:29,144 --> 01:58:32,062
Thank you.

2110
01:58:32,063 --> 01:58:34,064
I really am.

2111
01:59:50,225 --> 01:59:53,103
The statements are in.
I'm pulling quotes.

2112
01:59:54,437 --> 01:59:55,939
Yep.

2113
01:59:59,359 --> 02:00:01,694
So, do you...
Okay. You're so good.

2114
02:00:21,089 --> 02:00:22,673
Have you pulled the quotes?

2115
02:00:22,674 --> 02:00:24,843
I'm doing it now.

2116
02:00:38,815 --> 02:00:40,733
It's ready to go.

2117
02:00:41,526 --> 02:00:44,736
Let's read it together
one last time.

2118
02:01:19,230 --> 02:01:21,483
- Yeah.
- One second.

2119
02:01:25,987 --> 02:01:27,237
Yeah.

2120
02:01:27,238 --> 02:01:28,865
Okay?

2121
02:01:31,034 --> 02:01:32,452
Okay?

2122
02:01:34,787 --> 02:01:36,079
- Yeah.
- Okay.