1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:02,836 --> 00:00:04,796 MAN: Mikey, is there any reason you wanted the teleprompter 3 00:00:04,796 --> 00:00:07,257 behind the camera so I'm looking straight at you, or you don't care? 4 00:00:07,257 --> 00:00:08,842 MIKEY: No, I think it's okay. MAN: Okay. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:10,219 MIKEY: We're in a good spot. 7 00:00:10,219 --> 00:00:12,137 MAN: 'Cause my eyes are a little shooting to the right. 8 00:00:12,137 --> 00:00:13,680 MIKEY: That's okay, though. MAN: Are you sure? 9 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,849 MIKEY: Mm-hmm. MAN: Okay. 10 00:00:15,849 --> 00:00:18,894 MIKEY: So you wanna start from the top? 11 00:00:18,894 --> 00:00:20,145 MAN: Yes. 12 00:00:21,563 --> 00:00:22,898 I'm just gonna do each point. 13 00:00:24,775 --> 00:00:27,694 MIKEY: Ready? MAN: I am born ready. 14 00:00:31,490 --> 00:00:33,033 [sighs] 15 00:00:34,743 --> 00:00:37,704 Welcome. And thank you for coming. 16 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:41,041 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift, 17 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:45,254 from a "fixed cost per seat" commodity 18 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:48,215 to an experiential-differentiated... 19 00:00:52,177 --> 00:00:55,889 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift, 20 00:00:55,889 --> 00:00:57,558 from a must-have... 21 00:00:59,393 --> 00:01:00,644 It's a mouthful. 22 00:01:00,644 --> 00:01:02,563 Fromm a "fixed cost per seat" commodity 23 00:01:02,563 --> 00:01:04,106 to a must-have experiential... [indistinct chatter] 24 00:01:04,106 --> 00:01:05,440 I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,775 Real estate... 26 00:01:06,775 --> 00:01:08,735 Guys, I need no sounds. 27 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:11,947 If you're moving and making a sound and I'm speaking, freeze. 28 00:01:11,947 --> 00:01:14,658 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift, 29 00:01:14,658 --> 00:01:16,869 from a "fixed cost per seat" com- - 30 00:01:16,869 --> 00:01:19,329 Ehhh! [sighs] We'll clean it up. 31 00:01:19,329 --> 00:01:22,165 I think we're great, and I think we're preparing for the roadshow right now. 32 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:23,375 [farts] 33 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:25,252 [crew shrieks, laughs] Sorry. 34 00:01:25,252 --> 00:01:27,462 The universe had to release it. 35 00:01:27,462 --> 00:01:28,630 [crew laughing] 36 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:31,675 Shh! You guys gotta flow with me. After I do the... 37 00:01:31,675 --> 00:01:33,719 Shh! Just let the air out. 38 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:36,388 REPORTER 1: WeWork is garnering questions about its business model. 39 00:01:36,388 --> 00:01:39,349 REPORTER 2: There are all kinds of things that just pop out as red flags in this. 40 00:01:39,349 --> 00:01:41,143 REPORTER 3: It feels like it's valued as a tech company, 41 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:42,811 but this is a real estate company. 42 00:01:42,811 --> 00:01:45,731 REPORTER 4: The founder wanted total, complete control for life. 43 00:01:45,731 --> 00:01:48,358 REPORTER 5: The company went from a $47 billion valuation 44 00:01:48,358 --> 00:01:50,319 to near bankruptcy in just six weeks. 45 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:52,362 REPORTER 6: The future of the company very uncertain at this point. 46 00:01:52,362 --> 00:01:54,698 SCOTT GALLOWAY: If you tell a 30-something male 47 00:01:54,698 --> 00:01:56,658 that he's Jesus Christ, 48 00:01:56,658 --> 00:01:58,327 he's inclined to believe you. 49 00:01:59,661 --> 00:02:02,039 - Start from the top. I'm gonna get this. 50 00:02:03,415 --> 00:02:04,708 Okay, I got it. 51 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:08,504 - ♪ Ooh-la-la, ah, we we ♪ 52 00:02:08,504 --> 00:02:11,381 ♪ Ooh-la-la, ah, we we ♪ 53 00:02:11,381 --> 00:02:14,176 ♪ Ooh-la-la, ah, we we ♪ 54 00:02:14,176 --> 00:02:15,886 ♪ Ah, we--ah, we-- ♪ 55 00:02:15,886 --> 00:02:18,347 ♪ Ah-ah-- Ah-ah-ah-ah ♪ 56 00:02:18,347 --> 00:02:21,725 ♪ Ah, we we we we we we... ♪ 57 00:02:27,064 --> 00:02:29,191 ADAM NEUMANN: Social media companies promised us 58 00:02:29,191 --> 00:02:31,276 that technology will bring us together. 59 00:02:34,029 --> 00:02:36,448 Well, I gotta tell you, I've been observing a little bit what's happening 60 00:02:36,448 --> 00:02:39,034 around the world right now and I actually feel like a lot of times 61 00:02:39,034 --> 00:02:41,078 technology is pulling us apart. 62 00:02:43,372 --> 00:02:47,417 And the secret of success in our opinion, is it's about real connection. 63 00:02:47,417 --> 00:02:49,753 It's about treating other people the way you wanna be treated. 64 00:02:49,753 --> 00:02:52,381 It's about being part of something greater than yourself. 65 00:02:57,594 --> 00:03:00,055 I want us to never forget that the future, 66 00:03:00,055 --> 00:03:03,725 while leveraging technology, lies in ourselves. 67 00:03:05,060 --> 00:03:07,521 It is us who will blaze the path forward, 68 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:10,691 paved not with algorithms, not with software, 69 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:13,318 but with values, with friendship, 70 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:17,072 with common goals, and most importantly, with humanity. 71 00:03:19,074 --> 00:03:22,911 The next revolution is going to be the We revolution. 72 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:29,793 And it will restore in each one of us a sense of dignity and community 73 00:03:29,793 --> 00:03:32,963 without which greatness cannot be achieved. 74 00:03:38,594 --> 00:03:39,928 [bell clanging] 75 00:03:39,928 --> 00:03:42,598 REPORTER: Not in generations has Wall Street absorbed 76 00:03:42,598 --> 00:03:44,516 the number of body blows it took today. 77 00:03:44,516 --> 00:03:46,310 NEWS ANCHOR: The American financial system 78 00:03:46,310 --> 00:03:48,103 is rocked to its foundation, 79 00:03:48,103 --> 00:03:52,441 as top Wall Street institutions topple under a mountain of debt. 80 00:03:52,441 --> 00:03:57,404 - After 2008, 2009, you had this really interesting period in U. S. economics 81 00:03:57,404 --> 00:04:00,741 where the economy itself was in a recession 82 00:04:00,741 --> 00:04:03,911 and we were looking for some way to get out of it, we were looking for hope. 83 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:07,664 And hope was found in technology. 84 00:04:07,664 --> 00:04:10,792 And people were like, "That's the future. Tech is the future. 85 00:04:10,792 --> 00:04:14,505 It's going to be the lifeline that pulls us out of these doldrums." 86 00:04:14,505 --> 00:04:18,675 And at the time, you had a lot of sort of tech boosterism and techno-optimism. 87 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:22,095 The idea was not just that these companies were going to become valuable, 88 00:04:22,095 --> 00:04:26,141 but that they represented something really fundamental and beautiful 89 00:04:26,141 --> 00:04:29,102 about the future of human civilization. 90 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:32,105 It was a period where you were rewarded 91 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:35,776 if you could articulate a vision of your company 92 00:04:35,776 --> 00:04:37,819 that wasn't just going to make money. 93 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:39,488 It was going to change the world. 94 00:04:43,951 --> 00:04:46,119 MAN: What is your business built on? 95 00:04:46,119 --> 00:04:48,080 - We. - You... 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,332 I need you to tell me that. "My business..." 97 00:04:50,332 --> 00:04:53,460 - Are we starting? MAN: Yeah, we'll just start and then I'll get official. 98 00:04:53,460 --> 00:04:56,046 - Okay, you got it, you'll get-- He's not in your picture? 99 00:04:56,046 --> 00:04:58,090 MAN: Now, don't worry about-- - He's not in your frame? 100 00:04:58,090 --> 00:05:00,676 MAN: We got you covered, you got us covered. 101 00:05:00,676 --> 00:05:01,844 - WeWork is a community-- 102 00:05:01,844 --> 00:05:04,388 Wait, who do you want me to look at, you or the...? Okay. 103 00:05:04,388 --> 00:05:06,974 So they're taking this side. 104 00:05:06,974 --> 00:05:09,059 This is, we go to the details here. 105 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:12,062 MAN: You look fantastic. - We focus on a lot of details here. 106 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:16,108 RANDALL LANE: Adam arrived in New York like many immigrants, 107 00:05:16,108 --> 00:05:19,069 ready to hustle, full of ideas. 108 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:22,239 And, uh, like many who've come to New York before him, 109 00:05:22,239 --> 00:05:23,949 uh, they didn't really work. 110 00:05:23,949 --> 00:05:25,325 ♪ orchestral music playing ♪ 111 00:05:25,325 --> 00:05:26,618 He had this idea called Krawlers, 112 00:05:26,618 --> 00:05:29,538 which was for babies so they could have padded knees. 113 00:05:29,538 --> 00:05:32,416 You know, babies have been doing fine for millions of years without padded knees. 114 00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:35,043 ADAM: Our tagline was, "Just because they don't tell you 115 00:05:35,043 --> 00:05:36,420 doesn't meant they don't hurt." 116 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:39,173 [audience laughing] 117 00:05:39,173 --> 00:05:41,133 ALEX KONRAD: He's couch-surfing with his sister, 118 00:05:41,133 --> 00:05:42,801 who's had some success as a model. 119 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,263 - What you see is what you get. 120 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:50,225 ALEX: And I think Adam really loves 121 00:05:50,225 --> 00:05:52,477 the New York lifestyle, the nightlife. 122 00:05:52,477 --> 00:05:54,897 But professionally, he's kind of a dilettante. 123 00:05:54,897 --> 00:05:57,399 ADAM: I'm working in Dumbo, Brooklyn, 124 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:01,236 and in the building there's an architect whose name is Miguel McKelvey. 125 00:06:01,945 --> 00:06:06,074 And me and Miguel are talking about different ideas of real estate businesses. 126 00:06:06,074 --> 00:06:08,869 - I was attracted and interested in him because 127 00:06:08,869 --> 00:06:11,163 he was bringing energy to the room, 128 00:06:11,163 --> 00:06:13,498 and perhaps for him I could be a calming element 129 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:15,959 and take in some of that energy that he had 130 00:06:15,959 --> 00:06:18,462 and reflect it back at him in an interesting way. 131 00:06:18,462 --> 00:06:20,422 ADAM: And we went out to build a business 132 00:06:20,422 --> 00:06:22,508 that's going to change the way people work, 133 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:24,885 that's based on community and redefined success. 134 00:06:24,885 --> 00:06:27,513 RANDALL: And from minute one with their partnership, 135 00:06:27,513 --> 00:06:29,765 it was Miguel who was Mr. Inside 136 00:06:29,765 --> 00:06:31,683 and Adam was Mr. Outside. 137 00:06:33,060 --> 00:06:34,353 ADAM: The world has shifted. 138 00:06:34,353 --> 00:06:36,522 It used to be an "I" world. Right? 139 00:06:36,522 --> 00:06:39,149 iPhone, iMac, all about me, me, me. 140 00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:41,818 If you take the "me" and you flip it and you get the "we," 141 00:06:41,818 --> 00:06:44,279 you understand that we're about to change the way people work 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,699 and the way people live, but more importantly, change the world. 143 00:06:51,203 --> 00:06:52,871 VIDEO NARRATOR: The kibbutz. 144 00:06:52,871 --> 00:06:56,166 A working collective in a free society. 145 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:58,418 Invented, unique, 146 00:06:58,418 --> 00:06:59,878 contemporary. 147 00:06:59,878 --> 00:07:04,174 The most important social experiment of the last hundred years. 148 00:07:04,174 --> 00:07:05,592 RANDALL: Every great business 149 00:07:05,592 --> 00:07:08,220 has a founding story and WeWork's is excellent. 150 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:11,849 You have Adam and Miguel, uh, two children of communes. 151 00:07:11,849 --> 00:07:14,017 Literally grew up in communes 152 00:07:14,017 --> 00:07:17,771 and, you know, one in Oregon and one in Israel in a kibbutz. 153 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:23,610 And they wind up together with this idea that they're gonna create a work commune. 154 00:07:24,903 --> 00:07:26,446 ADAM: When we thought of WeWork, 155 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:28,198 one of the thoughts that I had in my head is, 156 00:07:28,198 --> 00:07:29,950 we need a capitalistic kibbutz. 157 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:33,453 On the one hand, let's create a sharing economy where everybody shares. 158 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:35,998 On the other hand, if you choose to work harder than others, 159 00:07:35,998 --> 00:07:37,374 you should also be compensated more. 160 00:07:38,292 --> 00:07:39,835 RANDALL: Like any narrative, 161 00:07:39,835 --> 00:07:42,337 it gets boiled down and distilled. 162 00:07:42,337 --> 00:07:46,216 And as the company evolves, the founding story evolves. 163 00:07:46,216 --> 00:07:48,844 But their founding narrative actually really did translate 164 00:07:48,844 --> 00:07:51,471 to a lot of their early business success. 165 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:54,266 - I mean, co-working, as we think of it now, 166 00:07:54,266 --> 00:07:56,643 didn't really exist at the time. 167 00:07:56,643 --> 00:08:00,856 RANDALL: Before WeWork, the real big player was Regus. 168 00:08:00,856 --> 00:08:03,650 ♪ upbeat jazz playing ♪ 169 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,569 - Welcome to Regus, the new way to work. 170 00:08:05,569 --> 00:08:09,781 A global workstyle solution for today's rapidly changing face of business. 171 00:08:09,781 --> 00:08:12,576 RANDALL: As corporate and institutional as you could get, 172 00:08:12,576 --> 00:08:14,411 with cubicles and dull colors. 173 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:16,788 And walking into a Regus 174 00:08:16,788 --> 00:08:20,125 was like walking into the back of a dentist's office. 175 00:08:21,251 --> 00:08:23,045 ADAM: We started by taking buildings. 176 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:24,880 We cut them up to small spaces. 177 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,299 We built everything from glass. It was very communal. 178 00:08:27,299 --> 00:08:29,051 It's very see-through and transparent. 179 00:08:29,051 --> 00:08:32,095 We put in common spaces, and we basically created 180 00:08:32,095 --> 00:08:35,390 a community of small businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers. 181 00:08:35,390 --> 00:08:39,269 And in that community, people are almost forced to help other people. 182 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:42,189 And when you have a business community that's built 183 00:08:42,189 --> 00:08:46,568 on these kind of moral standards, everybody becomes more successful. 184 00:08:47,819 --> 00:08:51,281 - In January 2010, 185 00:08:51,281 --> 00:08:55,452 I went in to lead a networking meeting at 7 a. m., 186 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:57,496 and that day the guest of a guest 187 00:08:57,496 --> 00:08:59,790 was Adam Neumann, the founder of WeWork. 188 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:02,209 When the meeting ended, 189 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:06,004 we ended up standing next to each other, talking, 190 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:07,923 and he said, "Oh, I might need a mortgage." 191 00:09:07,923 --> 00:09:09,633 I said, "Well, I'm opening the mortgage seat. 192 00:09:09,633 --> 00:09:10,968 I'm gonna go do something else." 193 00:09:10,968 --> 00:09:13,220 He said, "What are you gonna do?" I said, "I don't know. 194 00:09:13,220 --> 00:09:16,390 I want to do something that lights me up and makes me feel excited." 195 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:19,059 And he said, "Well, I just took this building down in Soho. 196 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:21,436 "I'm launching this concept called WeWork. 197 00:09:21,436 --> 00:09:22,813 You should come and take a look." 198 00:09:22,813 --> 00:09:25,858 ♪ calm orchestral music playing ♪ [bell chimes] 199 00:09:29,111 --> 00:09:33,407 Three days later on Monday morning, I started as their second employee. 200 00:09:38,537 --> 00:09:39,788 [whistles] 201 00:09:41,164 --> 00:09:44,251 I still have this email that Adam sent to me 202 00:09:44,251 --> 00:09:48,797 at one o'clock in the morning the night before my first morning. 203 00:09:48,797 --> 00:09:53,051 I woke up at 8 a. m. to an email that said, "Good morning, period. 204 00:09:53,051 --> 00:09:57,431 Let's build the largest networking community on the planet" 205 00:09:57,431 --> 00:09:59,516 And not even a period at the end. 206 00:09:59,516 --> 00:10:04,021 I showed up and we were three weeks before our opening day, 207 00:10:04,021 --> 00:10:07,900 where we opened the first half of one of the floors in our first building, 208 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:09,610 which was 17 offices, 209 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:12,654 and when I started on that first day, Adam said, 210 00:10:12,654 --> 00:10:16,283 "I want to open in three weeks and I want to be full with a wait list." 211 00:10:16,283 --> 00:10:18,327 [chuckles] 212 00:10:18,994 --> 00:10:21,872 And we were off to the races from the very beginning. 213 00:10:21,872 --> 00:10:24,041 [drill whirring] 214 00:10:29,254 --> 00:10:31,632 - I want to talk to the investors. I don't know who they are 215 00:10:31,632 --> 00:10:33,509 and where they're at, but they're looking at this. 216 00:10:33,509 --> 00:10:36,094 I want them to feel that I'm talking to them. 217 00:10:36,094 --> 00:10:37,971 MAN: At them. - At them. To them. 218 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:39,640 This is a story that I'm telling them. 219 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,433 MAN: Okay, then, go right to the camera. - Okay. 220 00:10:41,433 --> 00:10:43,685 MAN: Perfect. I'm ready. - Okay. 221 00:10:43,685 --> 00:10:45,479 MAN: Action. - Hey, guys. 222 00:10:45,479 --> 00:10:48,774 This is WeWork, the world's first physical social network. 223 00:10:48,774 --> 00:10:52,569 Our mission is to empower the world through collaboration. 224 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:54,821 We know that the future of the world 225 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:57,449 is in small business, not in corporate America. 226 00:10:57,449 --> 00:11:02,371 So we're building a community that's transparent and that's accountable. 227 00:11:02,371 --> 00:11:03,789 That is WeWork. 228 00:11:03,789 --> 00:11:06,166 ♪ 229 00:11:08,669 --> 00:11:10,879 PATRICK: Hey, guys, Patrick here and I wanted to give you 230 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:13,173 a quick tour of my WeWork office. 231 00:11:13,173 --> 00:11:16,385 WOMAN: I moved into a new office space called WeWork. 232 00:11:16,385 --> 00:11:18,095 ♪ It's beautiful ♪ 233 00:11:18,095 --> 00:11:21,056 What I do like about WeWork, we can, like, work wherever, 234 00:11:21,056 --> 00:11:23,225 and it's just like a good environment to be in. 235 00:11:23,225 --> 00:11:25,060 [clarinet playing] 236 00:11:25,060 --> 00:11:27,646 JUSTIN ZHEN: There's a saying that companies in Silicon Valley 237 00:11:27,646 --> 00:11:29,940 are founded in garages. 238 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:32,401 In New York City, they're founded in kitchens. 239 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:35,737 MAN: There it is. That's my new space. 240 00:11:35,737 --> 00:11:37,155 Yeah. 241 00:11:37,155 --> 00:11:39,992 JUSTIN: The thing that made WeWork more special 242 00:11:39,992 --> 00:11:43,620 or more attractive was just its marketing, right? 243 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:45,289 - This says, "Do what you love." 244 00:11:45,289 --> 00:11:48,125 - Our friends who were doing their tech startups, 245 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:49,751 they all worked in WeWorks. 246 00:11:49,751 --> 00:11:53,338 We didn't even consider any other co-working space. 247 00:11:53,338 --> 00:11:55,549 The thinking was, if you have a tech startup 248 00:11:55,549 --> 00:11:57,759 and you want it to be successful, 249 00:11:57,759 --> 00:11:59,803 you start it at a WeWork. 250 00:11:59,803 --> 00:12:02,431 - I love co-working spaces so much. 251 00:12:02,431 --> 00:12:05,267 So let's start over here at the snacks area. 252 00:12:05,267 --> 00:12:06,894 MAN: We have the snack area. 253 00:12:06,894 --> 00:12:08,812 Coffee, lemon water. 254 00:12:08,812 --> 00:12:10,105 "Do what you love." 255 00:12:10,105 --> 00:12:13,317 I love drinking coffee, so... I'm gonna do that. 256 00:12:13,317 --> 00:12:15,819 JUSTIN: Everyone wanted to be an entrepreneur. 257 00:12:15,819 --> 00:12:17,654 We all want to raise $10 million. 258 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:20,490 - I'm the founder of BrunchCritic.com. 259 00:12:20,490 --> 00:12:22,242 - Our company is SmileBack. 260 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,203 - Co-founder of UPlanMe. 261 00:12:24,203 --> 00:12:25,913 - Scroll Kit. - Consumer. 262 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:27,331 - Handshake. - MyThing. 263 00:12:27,331 --> 00:12:28,790 - Spindows. - Scruff. 264 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:30,083 - Yoink. - RoomHints. 265 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:32,211 - The company is Beer to Buds. 266 00:12:33,295 --> 00:12:36,340 ALEX: WeWork embodied an optimism 267 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:40,969 and this millennial excitement about how to work 268 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:44,431 and how to do things together, do things flexibly 269 00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:49,603 and rebel against the office culture set by the '80s and '90s. 270 00:12:52,147 --> 00:12:55,234 It was almost like somehow being a member of a club, 271 00:12:55,234 --> 00:12:57,653 beyond just where your office building is. 272 00:12:57,653 --> 00:13:00,489 ADAM: The world is changing, the way people work is changing. 273 00:13:00,489 --> 00:13:03,325 If you're 22 today and you're out of college, you can't go and work 274 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:05,911 for corporate America in the old way and you need a new solution. 275 00:13:05,911 --> 00:13:08,372 We're sharing the same space, we're doing different businesses. 276 00:13:08,372 --> 00:13:11,834 And we understand that, through helping each other, we can become more successful. 277 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:14,670 MAN: How fast are you growing? ADAM: Very. 278 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:16,505 MAN: What kind of numbers are we talking about? 279 00:13:16,505 --> 00:13:18,257 ADAM: We're talking about probably one of the fastest 280 00:13:18,257 --> 00:13:21,468 physical expansions that has been seen for the past 10 years. 281 00:13:25,389 --> 00:13:28,892 - When I got introduced to Adam through a friend, 282 00:13:28,892 --> 00:13:31,270 uh, I came in. 283 00:13:31,270 --> 00:13:34,481 I didn't even know the company WeWork ever existed. 284 00:13:34,481 --> 00:13:38,110 He went right to the point. He's like, "Look, we don't have a lot of time. 285 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:41,530 "I have a campground upstate. I want to host an event. 286 00:13:41,530 --> 00:13:43,991 I need you to help me. I believe that you can help me." 287 00:13:43,991 --> 00:13:47,035 And then he told me the budget, and I said, "Well... 288 00:13:47,035 --> 00:13:48,745 "you know, your budget's not too great. 289 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:51,915 "I don't know how I'm, uh, you know, gonna really pull this off 290 00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:53,417 and make a couple dollars." 291 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:55,544 He said, "Don't worry, you know, we're gonna grow. 292 00:13:55,544 --> 00:13:57,254 "We're gonna be big. You're gonna stay with us. 293 00:13:57,254 --> 00:14:00,257 You're gonna do a lot of work with us. You'll see, you'll see, you'll see." 294 00:14:00,257 --> 00:14:02,301 - It's exciting, it's gonna get bigger. 295 00:14:02,301 --> 00:14:04,261 LIRON DAVID: Something about him stood out. 296 00:14:04,261 --> 00:14:08,182 I couldn't put my finger on it, but Adam's a very convincing guy. 297 00:14:08,182 --> 00:14:11,101 He's... He's got a big personality and-- 298 00:14:11,101 --> 00:14:13,812 I walked out of that meeting, I said, "Okay, I'll make it happen." 299 00:14:13,812 --> 00:14:16,064 [bird chirping, frog croaking] 300 00:14:16,064 --> 00:14:19,443 We pulled every favor... 301 00:14:19,443 --> 00:14:22,571 from equipment to performers. 302 00:14:22,571 --> 00:14:26,241 And within a couple weeks, produced what's now become 303 00:14:26,241 --> 00:14:27,492 WeWork Summer Camp. 304 00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:29,620 ADAM: Hello, WeWorld. 305 00:14:29,620 --> 00:14:33,373 Thanks to you, things have been going very well. 306 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:37,794 And in gratitude, we decided to throw a 72-hour weekend... 307 00:14:37,794 --> 00:14:39,546 [child cooing] ...rager! 308 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:42,299 ♪ frenzied symphonic music playing ♪ 309 00:14:42,299 --> 00:14:45,135 LIRON: WeWork Summer Camp was Fyre Festival gone right. 310 00:14:45,135 --> 00:14:47,012 PASSENGERS: Do it, do it! 311 00:14:47,012 --> 00:14:50,098 LIRON: It's this mini festival for members at WeWork, 312 00:14:50,098 --> 00:14:52,100 and all the employees 313 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:56,730 going to this remote children's summer camp 314 00:14:56,730 --> 00:14:58,106 in the middle of nowhere. 315 00:14:59,608 --> 00:15:01,276 MAN: The most rad activity? 316 00:15:01,276 --> 00:15:04,530 WOMAN: Oh, my gosh, there has been so much fun stuff to do. 317 00:15:04,530 --> 00:15:06,615 MAN: Honestly, these obstacle ropes really challenged me. 318 00:15:06,615 --> 00:15:08,534 I was contemplating life up there. 319 00:15:08,534 --> 00:15:11,203 - Whoaaaa! WOMAN: I think they're trying to kill us. 320 00:15:11,203 --> 00:15:13,622 MAN: I was just wakeboarding. MAN 2: Waterskiing and tubing. 321 00:15:13,622 --> 00:15:14,831 Hit my head really hard 322 00:15:14,831 --> 00:15:17,084 and then had to lay down and drink coconut water afterwards. 323 00:15:17,084 --> 00:15:19,962 - We almost tipped over like four times and I had to ask the lifeguards 324 00:15:19,962 --> 00:15:21,922 to come get me, 'cause I was so scared. 325 00:15:21,922 --> 00:15:24,758 WOMAN: I went to the survival skills thing and that was really fun. 326 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:26,093 - Oh, the balloon things where 327 00:15:26,093 --> 00:15:28,178 you're like in the bubble and like you run into people. 328 00:15:28,178 --> 00:15:29,054 [grunting] 329 00:15:30,097 --> 00:15:33,058 LIRON: WeWork Summer Camp, I think, really kicked off 330 00:15:33,058 --> 00:15:35,602 the entire event side of the company, 331 00:15:35,602 --> 00:15:39,690 which became one of the most well-known, you know, elements 332 00:15:39,690 --> 00:15:41,149 of what WeWork was. 333 00:15:41,149 --> 00:15:43,944 ♪ triumphant fanfare plays ♪ 334 00:15:43,944 --> 00:15:46,321 - I think I was probably, I don't wanna misstate it, 335 00:15:46,321 --> 00:15:48,031 like the tenth lawyer at WeWork. 336 00:15:48,031 --> 00:15:50,701 Um, and it was just an amazing, amazing culture. 337 00:15:50,701 --> 00:15:53,161 You know, the people were great. 338 00:15:53,161 --> 00:15:55,372 Uh, I think they shared the same values I did, right? 339 00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:59,418 They basically had, it was like a "work hard, play hard" environment. 340 00:15:59,418 --> 00:16:01,879 ♪ Beethoven's Fifth Symphony playing ♪ 341 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:04,923 But it's totally different from that at a white-shoe law firm. 342 00:16:04,923 --> 00:16:07,593 And that's because of these company events. 343 00:16:07,593 --> 00:16:09,845 I mean, it is, it is legitimately 344 00:16:09,845 --> 00:16:12,472 the craziest work experience you'll ever have in your life. 345 00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:16,351 ♪ electronic music pounding ♪ 346 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:19,146 I think at four o'clock, they start serving alcohol. 347 00:16:19,146 --> 00:16:21,857 And when I say they're serving alcohol, 348 00:16:21,857 --> 00:16:23,609 they are serving alcohol. 349 00:16:23,609 --> 00:16:26,778 Like every 50 yards, there's like a bar set up. 350 00:16:26,778 --> 00:16:28,197 And it's unlimited. 351 00:16:28,197 --> 00:16:30,991 Like, if you wanted to drink till the end of time, 352 00:16:30,991 --> 00:16:32,451 you could drink till the end of time. 353 00:16:32,451 --> 00:16:35,204 - Come on, Neumann. Gimme some more, gimme some more! 354 00:16:35,204 --> 00:16:37,331 [cheering] 355 00:16:37,331 --> 00:16:38,665 DON LEWIS: At all these events, 356 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:41,793 during the day you listen to presentations, speeches. 357 00:16:41,793 --> 00:16:44,213 There was always like some famous people there. 358 00:16:44,922 --> 00:16:46,798 And then, you know, at night, you do the WeWork thing, 359 00:16:46,798 --> 00:16:48,217 which is kind of just party. 360 00:16:48,217 --> 00:16:49,593 [crowd cheering] 361 00:16:49,593 --> 00:16:51,803 - ♪ Go, go, go, go, go... ♪ 362 00:16:51,803 --> 00:16:55,140 DON: Adam grew up in Israel, only had one TV channel. 363 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:57,434 And he saw a lot of movies like Animal House ... 364 00:16:57,434 --> 00:17:00,312 - Thanks, I needed that. [glass shatters] 365 00:17:00,312 --> 00:17:01,813 DON: And The Gong Show. 366 00:17:01,813 --> 00:17:04,066 So, in a lot of the WeWork space, there was a gong. 367 00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:05,901 At a lot of big events, somebody hit a gong. 368 00:17:05,901 --> 00:17:07,361 [gong rings] 369 00:17:07,361 --> 00:17:10,781 And all WeWork spaces, everybody knows, there was kegs of beer. 370 00:17:10,781 --> 00:17:13,450 You know, it's beautiful young people. 371 00:17:13,450 --> 00:17:15,827 Coworkers got along there amazingly. 372 00:17:15,827 --> 00:17:18,539 Like, you met people from all over the world. 373 00:17:18,539 --> 00:17:20,874 ♪ electronic music pounding ♪ 374 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:23,710 I think people really liked the coolness of it. 375 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:26,171 And that's kind of what was being sold. 376 00:17:26,171 --> 00:17:28,173 [crowd cheering] 377 00:17:28,173 --> 00:17:32,094 - I am, I am so happy to have all of you here tonight. 378 00:17:32,094 --> 00:17:33,929 [crowd whooping] Like, this is unbelievable. 379 00:17:33,929 --> 00:17:34,888 Who was here last year? 380 00:17:34,888 --> 00:17:36,139 Raise your hand if you were here last year! 381 00:17:36,139 --> 00:17:39,268 [cheering] 382 00:17:39,268 --> 00:17:42,855 We were very worried that we couldn't do better than last year, 383 00:17:42,855 --> 00:17:45,566 and I said to everybody, "There must be a way." 384 00:17:45,566 --> 00:17:48,360 I said, "Well, what if we add one more day, 385 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:51,989 "do twice as many people, five times as much alcohol? 386 00:17:51,989 --> 00:17:53,782 Then we could do this again!" 387 00:17:53,782 --> 00:17:55,826 MAN: Alcohol! 388 00:17:55,826 --> 00:17:57,828 ADAM: I think the thing that all of us know is, 389 00:17:57,828 --> 00:17:59,788 if you wanna succeed in this world, 390 00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,040 you have to build something that has intention. 391 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,878 And what puts us together, all of us here, is because we wanna do something 392 00:18:05,878 --> 00:18:08,547 that actually makes the world a better place, 393 00:18:08,547 --> 00:18:10,424 and we wanna make money doing it. 394 00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,759 [cheering and applause] 395 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,428 It's okay. 396 00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:19,349 - I moved to New York in my early 20s, 397 00:18:19,349 --> 00:18:24,855 and I got off of a plane with two suitcases. 398 00:18:24,855 --> 00:18:27,107 And I was going to live with my sister's friend. 399 00:18:27,107 --> 00:18:29,359 ♪ 400 00:18:31,904 --> 00:18:35,365 I remember taking a cab over there, 401 00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,618 and it was at night and just looking at the city 402 00:18:37,618 --> 00:18:39,453 and being in awe. 403 00:18:39,453 --> 00:18:41,538 Like I truly could not believe I was there. 404 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:47,169 My first job was at a hedge fund, 405 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:49,796 and I was an executive assistant there. 406 00:18:49,796 --> 00:18:53,383 Like I had moved to New York to "find my dreams." 407 00:18:53,383 --> 00:18:56,553 And here I was really, really kind of lost. 408 00:18:57,304 --> 00:19:01,308 The friend reached out to me and said, "I have a friend who has a startup 409 00:19:01,308 --> 00:19:03,727 and he's looking for an assistant. Are you interested?" 410 00:19:03,727 --> 00:19:05,270 And I got connected to Adam. 411 00:19:06,688 --> 00:19:10,359 I walked in and Adam was super casual, 412 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,279 very laid-back, very charismatic from the moment I saw him. 413 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:17,032 And he's very tall. 414 00:19:17,032 --> 00:19:20,827 And so he has a like very commanding presence. 415 00:19:20,827 --> 00:19:23,747 Um, and he's also really, really... 416 00:19:23,747 --> 00:19:25,415 he's really friendly. 417 00:19:25,415 --> 00:19:28,919 ADAM: Hello, how are you? MAN: This is our founder, Adam Neumann. 418 00:19:28,919 --> 00:19:30,587 ESTHER: Hi. - Hey, how are you, Esther? 419 00:19:30,587 --> 00:19:33,674 - Nice to meet you. - Joseph, why is your office the messiest one? 420 00:19:33,674 --> 00:19:35,592 Shake my hand, it's good for the movie. 421 00:19:35,592 --> 00:19:37,177 Don't be shy, look at the camera. 422 00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:38,637 That's good. - Hello. 423 00:19:38,637 --> 00:19:40,722 - And he was giving me a tour of the space, 424 00:19:40,722 --> 00:19:43,058 and I was interviewing at the same time, 425 00:19:43,058 --> 00:19:46,728 and we were just talking about their dream of what WeWork would become. 426 00:19:46,728 --> 00:19:49,356 - You gotta put something that we can grow into. 427 00:19:49,356 --> 00:19:51,316 We need to think... 428 00:19:51,316 --> 00:19:53,235 half a year forward if not a year. 429 00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:56,488 MEGAN MALLOW: This is not just about changing the way people work. 430 00:19:56,488 --> 00:19:59,324 We're gonna change, ultimately, 431 00:19:59,324 --> 00:20:02,703 every facet of the way that people interact. 432 00:20:03,453 --> 00:20:05,372 It just really spoke to me. 433 00:20:05,372 --> 00:20:08,208 And I felt like, I felt changed from that moment. 434 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:09,626 - Hey. 435 00:20:09,626 --> 00:20:13,255 It's embarrassing, though, with the camera in my face. 436 00:20:13,255 --> 00:20:16,133 DEREK THOMPSON: Millennials don't just want a job. 437 00:20:16,133 --> 00:20:18,802 And they don't just want a career. 438 00:20:18,802 --> 00:20:21,096 They want a calling. 439 00:20:21,096 --> 00:20:23,599 And I will give Adam Neumann credit here. 440 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:25,642 He assumed that everybody 441 00:20:25,642 --> 00:20:29,438 was achieving their calling by participating in WeWork. 442 00:20:29,438 --> 00:20:33,942 LISA SKYE: He'll go down as one of the most incredible salesmen in the world 443 00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:37,237 because he can get anyone to do 444 00:20:37,237 --> 00:20:40,782 whatever it is that he wants them to do and what he sees in the vision. 445 00:20:40,782 --> 00:20:44,828 - I lived in 13 different places until I moved to the U. S. when I was 23. 446 00:20:44,828 --> 00:20:48,624 And I had to go through many different communities, 447 00:20:48,624 --> 00:20:51,793 and every time you go to a new school as a kid, it's not an easy thing. 448 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:54,880 ALEX: Adam's world view was heavily shaped 449 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,633 by this kind of nomadic childhood 450 00:20:57,633 --> 00:21:00,219 and a desire to belong. 451 00:21:00,219 --> 00:21:03,805 What he always wanted was to kind of be part of this 452 00:21:03,805 --> 00:21:05,974 "sum is greater than the parts" collective 453 00:21:05,974 --> 00:21:08,810 where he still is kind of the center of attention. 454 00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,896 - When I say "We," you say... 455 00:21:10,896 --> 00:21:12,356 ALL: Work! - We! 456 00:21:12,356 --> 00:21:14,149 CROWD: Work! - We! 457 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:15,651 - Work! - We! 458 00:21:15,651 --> 00:21:17,778 DON: At all these company events, 459 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:21,490 Adam comes out, the lights are down, 460 00:21:21,490 --> 00:21:25,202 the strobe lights are going, the crazy graphics are going. 461 00:21:25,202 --> 00:21:30,499 ANNOUNCER: Please welcome WeWork co-founder and CEO, Adam Neumann. 462 00:21:30,499 --> 00:21:32,751 [cheering and applause] 463 00:21:34,878 --> 00:21:38,590 - Thank you so much for coming tonight, and I can't wait to get started. 464 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:41,343 - I've kind of equated Adam to like, you know, 465 00:21:41,343 --> 00:21:44,304 one of these, you know, spiritual or religious people... 466 00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:46,139 - Lord God... 467 00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:50,435 DON: ...who think they can cure like the plague by touching your head. 468 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:51,728 PASTOR: Oh, Jesus! 469 00:21:51,728 --> 00:21:53,772 - Like he literally had people bought in 470 00:21:53,772 --> 00:21:55,774 and he grabs in a room like that... 471 00:21:55,774 --> 00:21:58,902 - You're a creator, and you're a creator, and I know you're a creator. 472 00:21:58,902 --> 00:22:01,864 And the reason we are all creators 473 00:22:01,864 --> 00:22:04,908 is because we do something that's greater than ourselves. 474 00:22:04,908 --> 00:22:07,286 - When I speak to somebody who's so passionate about something, 475 00:22:07,286 --> 00:22:09,288 it's really difficult to not 476 00:22:09,288 --> 00:22:11,498 let that soak over me. 477 00:22:11,498 --> 00:22:14,293 You could not help but drink in what he was saying, 478 00:22:14,293 --> 00:22:15,711 and it became your dream, too. 479 00:22:15,711 --> 00:22:18,088 ADAM: If we know how to treat each other... 480 00:22:18,088 --> 00:22:21,175 DON: You know, it's a lot of younger people who've never really worked before. 481 00:22:21,175 --> 00:22:24,678 They were working like around the clock, and they really, really believe in this. 482 00:22:24,678 --> 00:22:28,140 MEGAN: I was in my mid-20s looking for purpose 483 00:22:28,140 --> 00:22:31,310 and here's this person selling this dream, 484 00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:34,813 and... I was an easy target for that. 485 00:22:34,813 --> 00:22:38,942 I definitely wanted the world he was telling me about. 486 00:22:38,942 --> 00:22:43,322 - I sometimes feel that every single person in this room 487 00:22:43,322 --> 00:22:46,825 is me having a different experience. 488 00:22:46,825 --> 00:22:48,160 And imagine... 489 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,746 DON: If you're a 25-year-old and it's your first job, 490 00:22:50,746 --> 00:22:53,707 going to orientation and chanting, "WeWork, WeWork, WeWork!" 491 00:22:53,707 --> 00:22:55,417 you know, may seem normal. 492 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,419 ADAM: All right, so now, go on, Sherman. 493 00:22:58,504 --> 00:23:01,465 DON: If you're 45 and you've worked at law firms and whatever, 494 00:23:01,465 --> 00:23:03,175 you're like, "Okay, this is different." 495 00:23:03,175 --> 00:23:04,676 But, you know, you're into it, you're there. 496 00:23:04,676 --> 00:23:06,595 You get down with what people are doing. 497 00:23:08,597 --> 00:23:12,142 LIRON: My experience with WeWork, it was like living in another world. 498 00:23:12,142 --> 00:23:15,854 It was living in a world where people were just happy. 499 00:23:15,854 --> 00:23:18,315 Right? They were happy to be around each other. 500 00:23:18,315 --> 00:23:23,070 What WeWork created was this environment of present existence 501 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:26,949 and celebrating life with, with meaning. 502 00:23:26,949 --> 00:23:31,328 The world is a dark place, and this little cave of WeWork 503 00:23:31,328 --> 00:23:33,539 was my happy spot. 504 00:23:33,539 --> 00:23:37,626 - The only thing that stands in the way of achieving anything you want 505 00:23:37,626 --> 00:23:39,086 is just you. 506 00:23:39,086 --> 00:23:40,963 You know the most amazing thing... 507 00:23:40,963 --> 00:23:45,008 DON: At one of these events, I was sitting towards the back, 508 00:23:45,008 --> 00:23:46,844 and there was an older usher there. 509 00:23:46,844 --> 00:23:48,846 And it was an African-American guy. 510 00:23:48,846 --> 00:23:51,849 And he just started asking me some questions. 511 00:23:51,849 --> 00:23:54,601 And he was like, you know, "What's the company about? 512 00:23:54,601 --> 00:23:56,228 What do you do there?" 513 00:23:56,228 --> 00:23:58,313 And, you know, I'm answering his questions. 514 00:23:58,313 --> 00:24:03,026 We're going on and on, and he just kind of changed his tone of voice 515 00:24:03,026 --> 00:24:05,112 and he kind of looked down on me a little bit 516 00:24:05,112 --> 00:24:08,156 and he was like, "Brother, can I ask you a serious question?" 517 00:24:08,156 --> 00:24:10,450 I was like, "Yeah. Sure, ask me the question." 518 00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,619 He says, "Is this some kind of cult?" 519 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,663 [gulls screeching] 520 00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:22,671 AUGUST URBISH: I had been to a couple of the summer camps, 521 00:24:22,671 --> 00:24:25,966 and I saw how much fun everybody was having 522 00:24:25,966 --> 00:24:28,051 within the We community. 523 00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:31,763 So then a friend of mine who worked for WeWork 524 00:24:31,763 --> 00:24:34,141 called me up and said, "Look... 525 00:24:34,141 --> 00:24:35,851 "WeWork is doing this new thing. 526 00:24:35,851 --> 00:24:38,270 "I can't tell you anything about it right now. 527 00:24:38,270 --> 00:24:43,525 "Um, it's going to be for the coolest people in New York, 528 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:46,320 "and I promise you are going to want to be a part of it. 529 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,407 Are you willing to break your lease to do this new WeWork venture?" 530 00:24:50,407 --> 00:24:53,118 Like... "Can I have a couple days?" 531 00:24:53,118 --> 00:24:55,787 And she said, "No, you can't have a couple days. 532 00:24:55,787 --> 00:24:58,874 I need to know right now, are you willing to break your lease for this?" 533 00:24:58,874 --> 00:25:01,668 Uh, and I said, "I guess... 534 00:25:01,668 --> 00:25:02,961 Yeah." 535 00:25:02,961 --> 00:25:05,464 Reluctantly. I said, "Yeah, I will do it." 536 00:25:07,382 --> 00:25:11,011 So a couple of weeks later, I got this invitation 537 00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:15,307 for what looked like Eyes Wide Shut , that Tom Cruise movie. 538 00:25:16,183 --> 00:25:18,560 Like, non-informational whatsoever. 539 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,730 A time, a place, a date, and that's it, you know. 540 00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:25,192 "I'll see you there," basically. So I was like, "Jesus, okay." 541 00:25:25,192 --> 00:25:29,029 So I show up and Adam Neumann was there at this initial thing, 542 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:31,823 and there was maybe 500 people in this room, 543 00:25:31,823 --> 00:25:35,202 and they revealed what was going on. 544 00:25:35,202 --> 00:25:38,622 WeWork is starting WeLive, 545 00:25:38,622 --> 00:25:43,836 that is all about this new way of living. 546 00:25:43,836 --> 00:25:49,049 And we had a very distinct opportunity to be the first people in there. 547 00:25:50,217 --> 00:25:54,513 I believed every word that came out of Adam's mouth. 548 00:25:54,513 --> 00:25:59,142 - The success of this will be if you guys feel like this is your home. 549 00:25:59,142 --> 00:26:01,562 AUGUST: He seemed like he was talking 550 00:26:01,562 --> 00:26:03,939 like a man on a mission. 551 00:26:03,939 --> 00:26:05,357 So I signed the thing 552 00:26:05,357 --> 00:26:08,318 and they got back to me and asked me to write 553 00:26:08,318 --> 00:26:13,323 a very sort of generic "why you should live here." 554 00:26:13,323 --> 00:26:14,616 "Why should we pick you?" 555 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:18,662 Like I didn't know anything about WeLive, 556 00:26:18,662 --> 00:26:23,417 so I was essentially writing a book report for a book that I hadn't read. 557 00:26:23,417 --> 00:26:25,335 It's one of those things where you're like, 558 00:26:25,335 --> 00:26:27,754 all I have to say is, "Wow!" 559 00:26:27,754 --> 00:26:33,218 So, you know, I wrote way too long of an essay than I needed to. 560 00:26:33,218 --> 00:26:38,223 And, uh, shortly after that, I was... accepted. 561 00:26:40,309 --> 00:26:43,729 This was supposed to be a space where it's move-in ready. 562 00:26:43,729 --> 00:26:45,689 You don't need anything. 563 00:26:45,689 --> 00:26:49,109 So I packed a bag, just one big bag, 564 00:26:49,109 --> 00:26:52,738 like a drifter, and walked into the space. 565 00:26:53,697 --> 00:26:56,408 And it was... 566 00:26:57,492 --> 00:26:59,411 stunning, it was beautiful. 567 00:26:59,411 --> 00:27:02,247 You know, you walked in and everything was perfect. 568 00:27:03,707 --> 00:27:06,793 QUINTON KERNS: I was the first designer at WeLive. 569 00:27:07,544 --> 00:27:08,712 I moved into WeLive, 570 00:27:08,712 --> 00:27:11,548 because I was one of the first members to be a beta tester. 571 00:27:11,548 --> 00:27:14,676 And that meant that, for the first six months, 572 00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:17,346 there was a drastically reduced price. 573 00:27:17,346 --> 00:27:20,516 I had designed the space with my colleagues, 574 00:27:20,516 --> 00:27:22,392 and I couldn't pass up the opportunity, 575 00:27:22,392 --> 00:27:24,686 and it was really cool because you were living 576 00:27:24,686 --> 00:27:26,939 in this brand-new living situation. 577 00:27:28,774 --> 00:27:31,026 AUGUST: The Murphy bed was built into the couch. 578 00:27:31,026 --> 00:27:33,195 There was a little desk tucked into a corner 579 00:27:33,195 --> 00:27:35,280 that you could put your computer on. 580 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,617 The whole thing may have been 200 square feet. 581 00:27:38,617 --> 00:27:41,161 Might have been 200 square feet. Like on a good day. 582 00:27:42,287 --> 00:27:44,831 But it was all about community. 583 00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:50,838 I think the initial group of people definitely fit a certain criteria. 584 00:27:50,838 --> 00:27:55,217 I mean, beyond being young with no actual responsibilities. 585 00:27:55,717 --> 00:27:58,053 - A lot of single people. Everybody was single. 586 00:27:58,053 --> 00:28:00,681 We actually had a saying that everything had to be designed 587 00:28:00,681 --> 00:28:02,099 to hold the weight of two people. 588 00:28:02,099 --> 00:28:04,726 AUGUST: Guess what all those people had in common 589 00:28:04,726 --> 00:28:09,857 was the ability to pause their personal lives to try out this new thing. 590 00:28:09,857 --> 00:28:13,443 QUINTON: They appealed to the same WeWork generation of millennials. 591 00:28:13,443 --> 00:28:16,488 A lot of people worked at WeWork who lived at WeLive at the time. 592 00:28:16,488 --> 00:28:21,201 AUGUST: A very, very small percentage of us were outsiders, 593 00:28:21,201 --> 00:28:22,536 I guess you could say. 594 00:28:23,537 --> 00:28:29,084 The first six months, it was weird if someone left the building. 595 00:28:29,084 --> 00:28:32,462 If someone were like, "Hey, I'm going to a friend's birthday party," 596 00:28:32,462 --> 00:28:34,715 and the very common next question is, 597 00:28:34,715 --> 00:28:36,216 "Oh, which floor is it on?" 598 00:28:36,216 --> 00:28:39,094 QUINTON: That's one of the benefits of co-living is, 599 00:28:39,094 --> 00:28:41,889 you move in, you get friends automatically, you spend time with them. 600 00:28:41,889 --> 00:28:44,933 So it becomes your whole social circle. 601 00:28:44,933 --> 00:28:47,686 AUGUST: It all felt like everybody was really dedicated 602 00:28:47,686 --> 00:28:49,771 to making this idea work, 603 00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:52,941 this sort of utopian... 604 00:28:52,941 --> 00:28:56,320 society of living situations, 605 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,698 without really thinking 606 00:28:59,698 --> 00:29:03,869 of the consequences of that. 607 00:29:03,869 --> 00:29:06,246 [thunder crashing] 608 00:29:09,541 --> 00:29:12,586 ♪ ethereal choral music playing ♪ 609 00:29:14,296 --> 00:29:15,964 [hooves galloping] 610 00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:20,802 RANDALL: WeWork wanted to become a unicorn. 611 00:29:22,596 --> 00:29:27,017 A unicorn is a company valued at $1 billion. 612 00:29:30,354 --> 00:29:32,981 That one beautiful unicorn 613 00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:36,235 that can return a hundred times your investment, 614 00:29:36,235 --> 00:29:39,738 that's how you're gonna make a lot of money as a venture capitalist. 615 00:29:40,364 --> 00:29:43,325 So the entire world of venture capital basically 616 00:29:43,325 --> 00:29:44,368 is on a unicorn hunt. 617 00:29:46,328 --> 00:29:48,413 Finding the next Uber, 618 00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:50,707 finding the next Facebook, finding the next Google, 619 00:29:50,707 --> 00:29:54,086 that's going to make you a billionaire 620 00:29:54,086 --> 00:29:56,296 just by picking and betting on the right horse, 621 00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:58,173 or in this case, the right unicorn. 622 00:30:01,176 --> 00:30:04,763 When WeWork was in its major New York growth period, 623 00:30:04,763 --> 00:30:07,516 there were a lot of big players who saw the potential. 624 00:30:07,516 --> 00:30:09,935 Venture capital firms saw this 625 00:30:09,935 --> 00:30:11,937 as a really great growth play but they had to move fast. 626 00:30:11,937 --> 00:30:14,106 - I liked him immediately. 627 00:30:14,106 --> 00:30:16,525 Adam's just a charming, charismatic person 628 00:30:16,525 --> 00:30:18,777 who is very persuasive to a lot of people. 629 00:30:19,695 --> 00:30:21,280 STEVE BERTONI: In many ways for investors, 630 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,031 WeWork was the future of work. 631 00:30:23,031 --> 00:30:26,285 It became this poster child for this growing trend 632 00:30:26,285 --> 00:30:30,831 of flexible offices, um, kind of digital nomads. 633 00:30:30,831 --> 00:30:33,333 Another thing that drove these investors was FOMO, 634 00:30:33,333 --> 00:30:34,626 fear of missing out. 635 00:30:34,626 --> 00:30:37,838 They had seen what venture capital firms had reaped 636 00:30:37,838 --> 00:30:40,465 with all these startups, and they wanted to get in the action. 637 00:30:40,465 --> 00:30:43,468 For many people, WeWork was that next big thing. 638 00:30:43,468 --> 00:30:47,514 ALEX: WeWork was basically getting interest from seed investors 639 00:30:47,514 --> 00:30:49,516 who were thinking, "Oh, this is a small company. 640 00:30:49,516 --> 00:30:52,144 I'm gonna get in on the ground with a small check." 641 00:30:52,144 --> 00:30:56,023 And yet they had quietly already reached a billion-dollar valuation, 642 00:30:56,023 --> 00:31:00,027 i.e., one of New York's very few tech unicorns, 643 00:31:00,027 --> 00:31:02,613 and yet people didn't know this because they hadn't announced it. 644 00:31:02,613 --> 00:31:04,531 I'm like, wait a second. 645 00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:06,867 There's a billion-dollar startup in New York 646 00:31:06,867 --> 00:31:09,578 that everybody wants to be a part of 647 00:31:09,578 --> 00:31:11,580 and nobody has a sense of how big it is yet. 648 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:14,374 And so that's when I started spending a lot of time with Adam, 649 00:31:14,374 --> 00:31:16,585 to try to understand the company. 650 00:31:18,754 --> 00:31:20,088 [cash register dings] 651 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:27,513 - New York real estate is one of the most interesting markets 652 00:31:27,513 --> 00:31:29,181 of any kind in the world, 653 00:31:29,181 --> 00:31:32,809 because you have to go back to the days of John Jacob Astor, 654 00:31:32,809 --> 00:31:37,606 the famous saying, "Nobody ever got poor with New York City real estate." 655 00:31:37,606 --> 00:31:39,608 But there's a caveat to that, 656 00:31:39,608 --> 00:31:41,693 which is you have to have incredibly sharp elbows 657 00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:43,278 and you have to play for keeps. 658 00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:47,074 LISA: It is male-dominated. 659 00:31:47,074 --> 00:31:49,243 Businesses, portfolios. 660 00:31:49,243 --> 00:31:52,621 A lot of familial wealth in the city. 661 00:31:52,621 --> 00:31:56,583 It is a shark-eat-shark industry. 662 00:31:56,583 --> 00:31:58,418 ♪ Vivaldi's "Four Seasons" playing ♪ 663 00:31:58,418 --> 00:32:01,964 RANDALL: The Roses and the LeFraks and the Kushners and even the Trumps. 664 00:32:01,964 --> 00:32:05,092 It's not really about entrepreneurs per se, 665 00:32:05,092 --> 00:32:07,302 but it's about families, it's about dynasties. 666 00:32:07,302 --> 00:32:10,472 It's generally the kind of business that once you're in 667 00:32:10,472 --> 00:32:13,433 and you establish a beachhead, uh, you're in. 668 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:16,270 - So it's almost like you're a real estate company wrapped 669 00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:19,189 in this sort of, in this tech sheen. 670 00:32:19,189 --> 00:32:21,108 - We're definitely not a real estate company. 671 00:32:21,108 --> 00:32:23,777 We are a community of creators. 672 00:32:23,777 --> 00:32:26,572 We create environment for entrepreneurs and freelancers. 673 00:32:26,572 --> 00:32:30,576 We leverage technology to connect people. And it's a new way of working. 674 00:32:30,576 --> 00:32:32,911 And just like Uber is the sharing economy for cars 675 00:32:32,911 --> 00:32:34,413 and Citi Bike for bicycle... HOST: Right. 676 00:32:34,413 --> 00:32:36,999 ...we're the sharing economy for space. 677 00:32:36,999 --> 00:32:38,667 ♪ "Four Seasons" continues ♪ 678 00:32:38,667 --> 00:32:40,752 HOST: Do you buy the properties? 679 00:32:40,752 --> 00:32:42,546 ADAM: So we definitely do not buy the property. 680 00:32:42,546 --> 00:32:44,965 That again would make us a real estate company. HOST: Exactly. 681 00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:47,259 ADAM: We create long-term leases with landlords, 682 00:32:47,259 --> 00:32:50,554 and then we take the space and we break it up and we create the community 683 00:32:50,554 --> 00:32:53,182 and the connections that happen between our members. 684 00:32:53,182 --> 00:32:54,975 MORT ZUCKERMAN: I saw what he was doing. 685 00:32:54,975 --> 00:32:57,936 I made a judgment as to this man's leadership capabilities, 686 00:32:57,936 --> 00:32:59,897 which are truly extraordinary, okay? 687 00:32:59,897 --> 00:33:04,151 It's phenomenal, and it's a great concept, and it's continuing to explode. 688 00:33:04,151 --> 00:33:07,821 - Taking these distressed buildings and flipping them in a new way, 689 00:33:07,821 --> 00:33:10,240 that was an insight that no one else had. 690 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,035 And, you know, they're validated by the smartest people in real estate 691 00:33:13,035 --> 00:33:15,412 being like, "Wow! That was a really interesting idea. 692 00:33:15,412 --> 00:33:18,207 It may be really risky, but it's an interesting idea." 693 00:33:21,418 --> 00:33:24,004 Pretty quickly, the Kushner family, 694 00:33:24,004 --> 00:33:27,549 the Rudin family, and Boston Properties 695 00:33:27,549 --> 00:33:30,385 were all onboard with this idea. 696 00:33:30,385 --> 00:33:34,264 It was validating to the establishment 697 00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:37,267 and it was also validating to Wall Street. 698 00:33:37,267 --> 00:33:41,563 You know, JP Morgan leads a large investment in WeWork. 699 00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:44,983 - Adam loved to namedrop to people. 700 00:33:44,983 --> 00:33:48,153 And, I mean, Jamie Dimon is the world's... 701 00:33:48,153 --> 00:33:50,155 top banker, 702 00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:53,534 and he would tell people he was his personal banker. 703 00:33:56,995 --> 00:33:59,498 RANDALL: They started to consume everything. 704 00:33:59,498 --> 00:34:00,832 They were renting as many office spaces 705 00:34:00,832 --> 00:34:02,334 in as many neighborhoods as possible. 706 00:34:02,334 --> 00:34:04,294 It became a literal land grab. 707 00:34:06,213 --> 00:34:08,715 All of a sudden, WeWork became 708 00:34:08,715 --> 00:34:12,511 the largest lessee of office space in all of New York City. 709 00:34:12,511 --> 00:34:15,138 ♪ dramatic music playing ♪ 710 00:34:25,232 --> 00:34:27,192 MAN: Good afternoon, all of you. 711 00:34:27,192 --> 00:34:30,487 When we sat down at the beginning of this year 712 00:34:30,487 --> 00:34:32,656 to decide the agenda, 713 00:34:32,656 --> 00:34:34,867 the first name we put on the list and circled 714 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:37,828 was Adam Neumann of WeWork, and you're about to see why. 715 00:34:37,828 --> 00:34:41,832 But by the way, having lunch next to Adam 716 00:34:41,832 --> 00:34:43,542 and having him coach me 717 00:34:43,542 --> 00:34:46,044 on how we did the seating all wrong here was... 718 00:34:46,044 --> 00:34:49,131 I mean, three or four times, he was very-- 719 00:34:49,131 --> 00:34:52,676 - But it bothers me because the center of energy in this room is right here 720 00:34:52,676 --> 00:34:55,053 and no one's sitting there, and it's right in front of us. 721 00:34:55,053 --> 00:34:57,848 And it's these little details that we pay attention to, 722 00:34:57,848 --> 00:34:59,933 and this is why, this is how you bring people together, 723 00:34:59,933 --> 00:35:02,728 and we have people sitting there facing the wrong direction, 724 00:35:02,728 --> 00:35:04,855 and there's enough room for all of us to get closer. 725 00:35:04,855 --> 00:35:09,651 - The last... [laughter and applause] 726 00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:12,821 - I remember in the very beginning walking into the office 727 00:35:12,821 --> 00:35:15,699 and seeing Rebekah and looking at her and saying, 728 00:35:15,699 --> 00:35:18,493 "Your husband has an incredible vision." 729 00:35:18,493 --> 00:35:21,830 And she said, "I know. It's why I married him." 730 00:35:21,830 --> 00:35:24,625 ♪ 731 00:35:27,503 --> 00:35:28,629 - Are you okay? 732 00:35:31,173 --> 00:35:32,591 [exhales sharply] 733 00:35:32,591 --> 00:35:34,426 Oh, fuck, are you on drugs? 734 00:35:34,426 --> 00:35:35,677 - No. - Are you? 735 00:35:35,677 --> 00:35:37,763 - No! - What are you on right now? 736 00:35:37,763 --> 00:35:39,681 - I'm not on anything, Robin. 737 00:35:39,681 --> 00:35:42,100 [pills rattling] Fuck. 738 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:44,645 LISA: Rebekah was Adam's wife, 739 00:35:44,645 --> 00:35:49,566 and she had an office with us because she was a filmmaker, an actress. 740 00:35:49,566 --> 00:35:51,777 [sobbing] 741 00:35:51,777 --> 00:35:56,907 ALEX: She is, uh, a cousin of Gwyneth Paltrow. 742 00:35:56,907 --> 00:35:58,992 You can't go far hearing about Rebekah 743 00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:01,745 or talking to Rebekah without that kind of coming up. 744 00:36:01,745 --> 00:36:05,123 LISA: I went to a screening of a film that she created. 745 00:36:05,123 --> 00:36:06,792 We all went to the screening. 746 00:36:07,251 --> 00:36:09,211 - This is your entire life story? 747 00:36:09,211 --> 00:36:12,172 - That is my entire story. - No, it isn't. 748 00:36:14,341 --> 00:36:16,176 - It was interesting. 749 00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:19,429 ALEX: She's around from the beginning of WeWork, 750 00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,348 helping in unofficial ways. 751 00:36:21,348 --> 00:36:23,767 ADAM: I meet my wife, I was 28. 752 00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,103 This was 10 years ago, and she looks at me 753 00:36:26,103 --> 00:36:28,480 and she goes, literally within five minutes, 754 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,484 "You have a lot of potential, but right now you're full of shit." 755 00:36:32,484 --> 00:36:33,819 [audience laughs] 756 00:36:33,819 --> 00:36:36,071 "You have potential, but you're full of shit." 757 00:36:36,071 --> 00:36:38,490 "You, my friend, are full of shit." 758 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:41,451 "You have a lot of potential, but you're full of shit." 759 00:36:41,451 --> 00:36:42,995 [audience laughs] 760 00:36:42,995 --> 00:36:44,663 She said, "Find your passion. 761 00:36:44,663 --> 00:36:46,790 "Do something that actually changes the world. 762 00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:48,834 "Bring those two together, I promise you, 763 00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:50,794 you'll have the best business you ever imagined." 764 00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:53,755 I have to say I did all of that and, Rebekah, I just want to say thank you. 765 00:36:53,755 --> 00:36:55,215 - Adam, my love. - I'd be nothing without you. 766 00:36:55,215 --> 00:36:57,009 HOST: Well put. - Thank you. 767 00:36:57,467 --> 00:36:59,511 ALEX: I would go to interview Adam. 768 00:36:59,511 --> 00:37:02,890 Rebekah was there for a lot of the interviews. 769 00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:04,641 REBEKAH: Sweetie, can I just say something? 770 00:37:04,641 --> 00:37:07,186 How do I pause this? You don't need this. 771 00:37:07,186 --> 00:37:11,732 - She was, um, grilling me about my intentions with the story. 772 00:37:11,732 --> 00:37:14,234 - Really by putting 400,000 square feet of room-- 773 00:37:14,234 --> 00:37:17,154 REBEKAH: You're saying WeWork is gonna make the neighborhood cool? 774 00:37:17,154 --> 00:37:19,281 - It's gonna make it work. 775 00:37:19,281 --> 00:37:21,366 It's gonna make the neighborhood, period. 776 00:37:21,366 --> 00:37:25,454 WeWork is gonna make the Lower East Side the new Silicon Valley. 777 00:37:25,454 --> 00:37:28,540 ALEX: Clearly she had a lot of authority, 778 00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:32,336 but she was not considered at the time a co-founder. 779 00:37:32,336 --> 00:37:35,589 It's pretty clear that Rebekah's trying to sort of shape Adam, 780 00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:39,468 or help him become this world leader type 781 00:37:39,468 --> 00:37:42,346 that, you know, he aspires to be and that she likes. 782 00:37:45,098 --> 00:37:48,644 MEGAN: Working at WeWork, we all felt like, "Oh, wow. 783 00:37:48,644 --> 00:37:52,147 "This is such a special place to be at a special time, 784 00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:55,943 because as it grows, they're gonna need, they're gonna need us." 785 00:38:00,322 --> 00:38:03,116 HOST: You're a hard-driving CEO. 786 00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:08,205 We've seen with other hard-driving CEOs and companies with a lot of hours 787 00:38:08,205 --> 00:38:10,749 that, that the culture can crumble. 788 00:38:10,749 --> 00:38:13,627 I was watching a video of yours where 789 00:38:13,627 --> 00:38:15,212 the typical Monday was described 790 00:38:15,212 --> 00:38:18,090 as arriving at 7 a. m. and going home at 3 a. m. 791 00:38:18,090 --> 00:38:20,092 - This Monday, I finished at 2 a. m., not at 3. 792 00:38:20,092 --> 00:38:23,345 [host laughs] It was a good, it was a good Monday. 793 00:38:23,345 --> 00:38:26,932 - I thought I was going to work at WeWork for the rest of my life. 794 00:38:26,932 --> 00:38:29,601 I really thought that this was my lifetime career 795 00:38:29,601 --> 00:38:31,854 and I would just grow with the company. 796 00:38:31,854 --> 00:38:35,440 - If you build an amazing culture, one that people can give you feedback, 797 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,068 one that works hard but also has a great time, 798 00:38:38,068 --> 00:38:40,320 then you will deal with the tough times when they come. 799 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,699 And that's, that's what's really important, and if you do it right-- 800 00:38:43,699 --> 00:38:46,243 By the way, working hard is fulfilling. 801 00:38:46,243 --> 00:38:48,495 LISA: We would hustle so hard. 802 00:38:48,495 --> 00:38:50,747 And though we would hit the mark, 803 00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:55,210 there was always a way that Adam grew the vision, 804 00:38:55,210 --> 00:38:59,423 so that everyone could see that we could do more, hustle harder, hustle faster. 805 00:39:00,132 --> 00:39:02,759 MEGAN: When somebody tells you they're changing the world 806 00:39:02,759 --> 00:39:06,180 and you are helping them do that, it feels special. 807 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:08,765 it feels really special. 808 00:39:08,765 --> 00:39:12,060 Everybody was just on it, ready to be a part of this company, 809 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:15,105 to be part of WeWork, to be a part of the dream. 810 00:39:16,148 --> 00:39:18,692 At that time, we were also being told like... 811 00:39:20,235 --> 00:39:21,820 Adam told me I was gonna be a millionaire. 812 00:39:23,530 --> 00:39:26,909 DON: Most people agreed to salaries less than 813 00:39:26,909 --> 00:39:30,829 they would make at somewhere else in a regular field or whatnot, 814 00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:35,334 because you were given a salary and a certain value of stock options. 815 00:39:35,334 --> 00:39:39,838 - When your business has a mission, and that mission is world changing, 816 00:39:39,838 --> 00:39:43,509 and people can buy into the mission, then they're gonna come in. 817 00:39:43,509 --> 00:39:45,719 Then they need the culture that they're going to enjoy. 818 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,972 To create that culture, you got to put employees first. 819 00:39:48,972 --> 00:39:51,099 We've given every one of our employees equity, 820 00:39:51,099 --> 00:39:54,269 so everyone is a partner in this business, from the porter that cleans 821 00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:55,604 to the community manager, 822 00:39:55,604 --> 00:39:58,482 to the CFO and COO of the company. 823 00:39:58,482 --> 00:39:59,900 Everyone is a partner. 824 00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:01,860 [chanting "WeWork!"] 825 00:40:01,860 --> 00:40:04,613 DON: So the idea was, people get super rich off of stock options, right? 826 00:40:04,613 --> 00:40:06,698 You hear about the guy who went to work at Amazon. 827 00:40:06,698 --> 00:40:08,367 He worked in the warehouse. 828 00:40:08,367 --> 00:40:11,453 He was like the 40th person in. He became a multi-gazillionaire. 829 00:40:11,453 --> 00:40:13,455 So that's what was being sold. 830 00:40:13,455 --> 00:40:15,791 But the way the stock options worked 831 00:40:15,791 --> 00:40:18,585 was that's not really like what would happen. 832 00:40:18,585 --> 00:40:21,547 MARGARITA KELRIKH: "Equity" was kind of a buzzword. 833 00:40:21,547 --> 00:40:24,258 Adam would talk about it all the time. 834 00:40:24,258 --> 00:40:27,177 "You all have equity in the company." 835 00:40:27,177 --> 00:40:29,221 Which I don't think is quite true. 836 00:40:29,221 --> 00:40:32,558 If you have stock options, you don't actually own equity in the company. 837 00:40:32,558 --> 00:40:36,770 You own a security that gives you an option to buy equity in the company. 838 00:40:37,646 --> 00:40:39,398 I would see that people didn't understand 839 00:40:39,398 --> 00:40:41,650 about that you're taking in what you're getting. 840 00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:43,569 It's so exciting... 841 00:40:44,862 --> 00:40:47,823 to feel like you own something that is so famous 842 00:40:47,823 --> 00:40:50,033 and so talked about. 843 00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,286 So that they can say like, "Oh, I have equity." 844 00:40:52,286 --> 00:40:56,456 But if somebody actually did the math, maybe their equity's worth like $2,000. 845 00:40:56,456 --> 00:41:01,003 You might think that the possibility of getting a million-dollar payout 846 00:41:01,003 --> 00:41:05,007 is far higher than it actually is in reality. 847 00:41:05,007 --> 00:41:07,843 [audience murmuring] 848 00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:09,469 ADAM: There's a lot of room. 849 00:41:09,469 --> 00:41:12,723 You can sit next to the gong. Don't be shy. 850 00:41:12,723 --> 00:41:14,600 JOANNA STRANGE: WeWork onboarding meetings 851 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,393 were on Monday mornings. 852 00:41:16,393 --> 00:41:19,730 And everybody would come in and then a presentation would begin. 853 00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:22,900 And the presentation was the mythology of WeWork. 854 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:27,613 ♪ peaceful symphonic music playing ♪ 855 00:41:27,613 --> 00:41:30,908 Like Adam walking through a kibbutz in Israel. 856 00:41:30,908 --> 00:41:33,619 Like his hands grazing over lavender, 857 00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,496 as he thinks to himself with a narration 858 00:41:36,496 --> 00:41:41,919 about community and support and loving one another. 859 00:41:41,919 --> 00:41:45,672 Then we get Miguel like walking through his compound in Oregon. 860 00:41:45,672 --> 00:41:48,300 They didn't do that; that's what they should have done. They should have hired me for that. 861 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:50,594 But anyway, um, you know, kind of this... 862 00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:53,222 But it's definitely like a couple of slides about WeWork 863 00:41:53,222 --> 00:41:57,559 and then lots of slides about every single person at the C level. 864 00:41:57,559 --> 00:42:00,145 [cheering] 865 00:42:00,145 --> 00:42:02,648 DON: At some point, they changed the organizational structure 866 00:42:02,648 --> 00:42:06,235 to have like mini CEOs in different regions. 867 00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:09,029 And they call them C-We-Os. 868 00:42:09,029 --> 00:42:10,697 So... [laughing] 869 00:42:10,697 --> 00:42:12,574 I'm not kidding, you know, and I was like, "Look 870 00:42:12,574 --> 00:42:15,077 "I'm not referring to anybody as a C-We-O 871 00:42:15,077 --> 00:42:16,453 for my entire life." 872 00:42:20,791 --> 00:42:23,043 And they made some weird videos. 873 00:42:23,043 --> 00:42:25,254 JOANNA: Everything about the videos 874 00:42:25,254 --> 00:42:27,256 was propaganda. 875 00:42:27,256 --> 00:42:29,132 Everything about it was propaganda. 876 00:42:29,132 --> 00:42:32,845 DON: The tone-deafness and lack of awareness to show these videos, 877 00:42:32,845 --> 00:42:34,471 it was incredible. 878 00:42:34,471 --> 00:42:37,266 Basically, you had the CEO, you had all the C-We-Os, 879 00:42:37,266 --> 00:42:41,144 and you really didn't see any minorities up in the higher echelons. 880 00:42:41,144 --> 00:42:44,690 There wasn't proper diversity at WeWork, period, hard stop. 881 00:42:44,690 --> 00:42:46,108 JOANNA: The C-We-Os are people 882 00:42:46,108 --> 00:42:48,735 who just want to talk about their awesomeness. 883 00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:51,780 They have that very much in common with Adam. 884 00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:54,908 It was almost like you needed to know who was at the top 885 00:42:54,908 --> 00:42:56,952 so when they came past, you could bow down to them. 886 00:42:59,121 --> 00:43:01,248 The events themselves really were meant 887 00:43:01,248 --> 00:43:05,502 to kind of like engender a loyalty to WeWork. 888 00:43:05,502 --> 00:43:09,131 DON: There would be like 50 to 70 people starting every Monday, 889 00:43:09,131 --> 00:43:11,717 and you'd be sitting in your office, and all of a sudden 890 00:43:11,717 --> 00:43:13,177 you hear chanting throughout the entire building. 891 00:43:13,177 --> 00:43:15,179 [crowd chanting "WeWork!"] 892 00:43:15,179 --> 00:43:17,514 JOANNA: While we're all trying to do our work. 893 00:43:17,514 --> 00:43:20,726 It's deafening. The music and everybody screaming. 894 00:43:20,726 --> 00:43:22,686 [crowd screaming, clapping] 895 00:43:22,686 --> 00:43:26,398 They were willing to spend any amount of money to make themselves feel good 896 00:43:26,398 --> 00:43:28,984 and look good to their employees. 897 00:43:28,984 --> 00:43:32,321 [crowd cheering] 898 00:43:35,324 --> 00:43:36,742 [cash register dings] 899 00:43:41,496 --> 00:43:46,376 DON: The offices were, to put it mildly, they were cramped. 900 00:43:46,376 --> 00:43:49,588 The mantra we got from on top, and I specifically remember 901 00:43:49,588 --> 00:43:52,466 an all-company meeting where we were kind of told 902 00:43:52,466 --> 00:43:56,178 that we would be quadrupling up, quintupling up, sixing up. 903 00:43:56,178 --> 00:43:58,263 "You don't need the corner office anymore. 904 00:43:58,263 --> 00:44:00,098 "You don't need the house on the hill anymore. 905 00:44:00,098 --> 00:44:03,101 It's all about energy, togetherness, working with your fellow humans." 906 00:44:03,101 --> 00:44:06,271 And then meanwhile, you know, I slide by Adam's office 907 00:44:06,271 --> 00:44:08,524 and he's got a veritable palace in there. 908 00:44:11,568 --> 00:44:13,320 There's a little bit of hypocrisy to all this. 909 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,113 You know, I remember at some old company speech, 910 00:44:15,113 --> 00:44:18,575 it was about, you know, taking some small steps to make sure 911 00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:23,247 that we saved a million dollars on the operating budget every year. 912 00:44:23,247 --> 00:44:27,209 And then Adam just bought a $60 million private jet, right? 913 00:44:27,209 --> 00:44:30,087 So, you know, you hear these and you're kind of wondering like, 914 00:44:30,087 --> 00:44:33,549 what is the message that's being told and how are people really living? 915 00:44:37,803 --> 00:44:40,264 JOANNA: There was definitely a lot of chaos 916 00:44:40,264 --> 00:44:43,892 and lack of organization at WeWork. 917 00:44:44,935 --> 00:44:48,438 Multiple times, I end up doing other people's jobs. 918 00:44:48,438 --> 00:44:50,232 Because they're not working fast enough. 919 00:44:50,732 --> 00:44:52,818 So then eventually my supervisor 920 00:44:52,818 --> 00:44:55,612 writes his password on a Post-It and he hands it to me. 921 00:44:55,612 --> 00:44:57,906 I used his log-in for everything. 922 00:44:57,906 --> 00:45:00,951 I was logging in and out so often 923 00:45:00,951 --> 00:45:04,454 that more than once, I would click on his Gmail icon 924 00:45:04,454 --> 00:45:06,915 and end up opening his email, only to realize it's his email 925 00:45:06,915 --> 00:45:11,086 and then have to log back out of everything and have to log back in. 926 00:45:11,086 --> 00:45:13,797 And, you know, one day 927 00:45:13,797 --> 00:45:15,841 a title of an email caught my eye. 928 00:45:15,841 --> 00:45:19,469 And then sort of the rest, as they say, is history. 929 00:45:19,928 --> 00:45:22,723 [clicks] So I click on it, of course, 930 00:45:22,723 --> 00:45:25,392 and it's a list of people that he's gonna fire. 931 00:45:25,392 --> 00:45:26,685 And I'm on the list. 932 00:45:26,685 --> 00:45:30,480 But when you read further down in it, 933 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,568 you realize that it's a mandate to cut 7% of their employees. 934 00:45:34,568 --> 00:45:38,572 Because WeWork was just flushing cash down the toilet. 935 00:45:38,572 --> 00:45:43,368 Just hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging money, so we had to cut jobs. 936 00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:45,662 He wrote something like, 937 00:45:45,662 --> 00:45:49,082 "Ha! Bitches, I cut more than 7% of my team," 938 00:45:49,082 --> 00:45:51,168 'cause everybody was supposed to cut 7%. 939 00:45:51,168 --> 00:45:52,794 And I was like, "What?" 940 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,049 After I saw that email, I thought, 941 00:45:57,049 --> 00:46:00,010 well, he gave me his password, and so I went digging 942 00:46:00,010 --> 00:46:01,512 because I thought, okay, 943 00:46:01,512 --> 00:46:03,180 I know we're running out of money. 944 00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:05,265 Now they're laying people off. What's going wrong? 945 00:46:08,852 --> 00:46:13,440 When I go back in, one of the documents that I find, 946 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,734 it was obviously, the information was not meant to be disseminated, 947 00:46:15,734 --> 00:46:17,569 but it showed that 948 00:46:17,569 --> 00:46:21,323 we had to adjust our revenue down 949 00:46:21,323 --> 00:46:24,368 by something like 80%. 950 00:46:25,035 --> 00:46:26,787 I didn't know if they were not gonna tell investors. 951 00:46:26,787 --> 00:46:30,499 They certainly were lying to every time they put out something in the media. 952 00:46:30,499 --> 00:46:32,042 - Are you actually turning a profit in the business? 953 00:46:32,042 --> 00:46:33,669 ADAM: We are definitely turning a profit. 954 00:46:33,669 --> 00:46:36,630 I'm bored of the businesses that don't turn a profit. I don't believe in them. 955 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:38,590 I need a cash flow-positive business. 956 00:46:38,590 --> 00:46:41,468 JOANNA: And so I thought, well, I'll just give it 957 00:46:41,468 --> 00:46:43,846 to somebody in the media and then it will go to the right place 958 00:46:43,846 --> 00:46:46,265 and then they will be taken to task for it. 959 00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:51,478 ALEX: When I went to try to report on this leak, 960 00:46:51,478 --> 00:46:53,522 you know, we get this statement from WeWork 961 00:46:53,522 --> 00:46:57,192 that the person has broken the law and that they're going to pursue this, 962 00:46:57,192 --> 00:47:00,320 and they kind of were trying to come off a bit as a victim 963 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,197 in the leak. 964 00:47:02,197 --> 00:47:05,325 They kind of said, "Okay, well, some buildings have been delayed, 965 00:47:05,325 --> 00:47:08,370 but we can sort of paint the overall narrative that things will still be fine." 966 00:47:08,370 --> 00:47:10,372 And they had these really powerful backers 967 00:47:10,372 --> 00:47:12,958 who have pumped them with money, and so I think at that time 968 00:47:12,958 --> 00:47:15,043 it was hard to say... 969 00:47:15,043 --> 00:47:18,088 are they faking it till they make it a bit and things are gonna work out? 970 00:47:18,088 --> 00:47:20,841 Will they grow up and kind of figure out these problems? 971 00:47:20,841 --> 00:47:22,759 Or is this a runaway train? 972 00:47:22,759 --> 00:47:26,346 And then all that gets kind of tossed out the window 973 00:47:26,346 --> 00:47:29,808 when just a few months later, SoftBank enters the picture. 974 00:47:29,808 --> 00:47:31,101 [reporters clamoring] 975 00:47:32,186 --> 00:47:34,021 MAN 1: How's that? MAN 2: That's good. 976 00:47:34,021 --> 00:47:36,356 WOMAN: Much better. MAN 1: Yeah. 977 00:47:36,356 --> 00:47:39,151 [camera shutter clicking] WOMAN: Okay, you guys have 60 seconds left 978 00:47:39,151 --> 00:47:41,320 'cause I hear the money counting. 979 00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:49,494 - Masayoshi Son is the founder and CEO of SoftBank, 980 00:47:49,494 --> 00:47:52,789 a large holding company based out of Japan. 981 00:47:52,789 --> 00:47:54,875 Known as Masa. 982 00:47:54,875 --> 00:47:58,712 He is one of the richest people in Japan. 983 00:47:58,712 --> 00:48:01,256 In 2017, Masa 984 00:48:01,256 --> 00:48:04,384 raised the largest venture capital fund of all time. 985 00:48:04,384 --> 00:48:05,385 It's called the Vision Fund. 986 00:48:06,136 --> 00:48:09,723 MAUREEN FARRELL: The size of the Vision Fund was unlike anything 987 00:48:09,723 --> 00:48:11,934 anyone had ever seen before. 988 00:48:11,934 --> 00:48:13,977 It was $100 billion. 989 00:48:13,977 --> 00:48:16,855 That essentially equated to several years' worth 990 00:48:16,855 --> 00:48:19,608 of every U. S. venture capital fund. 991 00:48:19,608 --> 00:48:22,361 You put them all together and it's around that size. 992 00:48:22,361 --> 00:48:23,695 MAN: So when you told people 993 00:48:23,695 --> 00:48:25,489 you were gonna raise a hundred-billion-dollar fund, 994 00:48:25,489 --> 00:48:27,324 what was the vision that you actually gave them? 995 00:48:27,324 --> 00:48:30,953 - So, one vision, which is singularity. 996 00:48:30,953 --> 00:48:33,664 Singularity is the concept 997 00:48:33,664 --> 00:48:37,960 that in 30 years, computers, artificial intelligence, 998 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,920 they will be smarter than us. 999 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,213 That's my belief. 1000 00:48:41,213 --> 00:48:44,424 ALEX: The singularity has a lot of implications 1001 00:48:44,424 --> 00:48:46,969 for how technology will be used by society, 1002 00:48:46,969 --> 00:48:50,681 and I think it also represents this massive existential threat 1003 00:48:50,681 --> 00:48:55,644 where someday our creations will outstrip us and not need us, 1004 00:48:55,644 --> 00:49:00,315 and we will be living lives dictated by machines. 1005 00:49:00,315 --> 00:49:02,985 - So we are investing a hundred billion dollars 1006 00:49:02,985 --> 00:49:05,487 just on one thing, AI. 1007 00:49:05,487 --> 00:49:07,739 ALEX: The Vision Fund could basically play king, 1008 00:49:07,739 --> 00:49:09,950 and Masa was going around looking for markets 1009 00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:12,286 that he thought could be really high growth 1010 00:49:12,286 --> 00:49:15,914 and companies with a potential to morph into something 1011 00:49:15,914 --> 00:49:19,126 to fit his vision of the future of the singularity. 1012 00:49:19,126 --> 00:49:23,589 And Adam wanted WeWork to be part of this huge vision. 1013 00:49:26,842 --> 00:49:29,761 - Adam Neumann and Masa Son had met many times. 1014 00:49:29,761 --> 00:49:34,016 However, Masa had always thought that WeWork was overvalued 1015 00:49:34,016 --> 00:49:36,894 and it would be too easy to replicate. 1016 00:49:36,894 --> 00:49:38,979 - The sharing economy's the future. 1017 00:49:38,979 --> 00:49:42,024 If I treat you the way that I wanna be treated, 1018 00:49:42,024 --> 00:49:45,068 then we can actually make a difference and be successful. 1019 00:49:45,068 --> 00:49:47,905 STEVE: But because of Adam Neumann's charisma, 1020 00:49:47,905 --> 00:49:50,741 Masa Son arranged to meet with Adam 1021 00:49:50,741 --> 00:49:53,702 for this big two-hour tour of headquarters. 1022 00:49:56,622 --> 00:49:58,874 Adam has been preparing for this for weeks. 1023 00:50:01,126 --> 00:50:04,421 And he's pacing around, pacing around, watching his clock. 1024 00:50:04,421 --> 00:50:06,924 [second hand clicking] 1025 00:50:06,924 --> 00:50:09,384 Fifteen minutes goes by, no Masa. 1026 00:50:09,384 --> 00:50:11,011 [balls clinking] 1027 00:50:11,011 --> 00:50:13,430 Half an hour goes by, no Masa. 1028 00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:15,682 [pendulum clicking] 1029 00:50:15,682 --> 00:50:18,644 A full hour goes by and he's still looking at his clock. 1030 00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:23,649 Finally, Masa shows up, and he says, 1031 00:50:23,649 --> 00:50:27,611 "Adam, I'm so sorry, I'm late, but we only have 12 minutes." 1032 00:50:31,031 --> 00:50:34,868 And they're going through WeWork and he's giving him the super-speed tour. 1033 00:50:36,787 --> 00:50:40,415 At exactly 12 minutes, Masa Son looks at his watch 1034 00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:43,335 and he says, "Adam, I'm so sorry, but I have to go. 1035 00:50:46,296 --> 00:50:51,468 But," Masa said, "if you'd like, you can ride with me to my next meeting." 1036 00:50:54,012 --> 00:50:59,560 So Adam grabs his iPad with the whole WeWork SoftBank pitch, 1037 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,353 and they jump in the car. 1038 00:51:03,647 --> 00:51:06,066 Adam pulls up his WeWork pitch, 1039 00:51:06,066 --> 00:51:09,319 and Masa says, "I don't need the pitch deck. Let's just talk." 1040 00:51:12,322 --> 00:51:16,201 Masa turns to Adam and he says, "Adam, let me ask you a question. 1041 00:51:17,995 --> 00:51:21,039 In a fight, who wins, the smart guy or the crazy guy?" 1042 00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:25,794 And Adam says, "The crazy guy." 1043 00:51:25,794 --> 00:51:29,548 And he goes, "You're right, but you're not crazy enough. 1044 00:51:29,548 --> 00:51:32,092 "You gotta be the crazy one. 1045 00:51:32,092 --> 00:51:34,052 "You need to think bigger. 1046 00:51:34,052 --> 00:51:36,346 You need to think 10 times bigger." 1047 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:42,853 And Masa begins, you know, doodling his vision for WeWork, 1048 00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:45,856 this grand plan to take WeWork global. 1049 00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:51,778 So basically Masa Son gave Adam Neumann 1050 00:51:51,778 --> 00:51:55,782 a check for $4 billion and said, "Go crazy." 1051 00:51:57,743 --> 00:51:59,244 And that changes everything. 1052 00:52:01,038 --> 00:52:02,915 MAN: The Wall Street Journal is reporting that SoftBank, 1053 00:52:02,915 --> 00:52:05,918 the Japanese investment firm, is considering putting 1054 00:52:05,918 --> 00:52:08,837 $4 billion in your company. 1055 00:52:08,837 --> 00:52:10,047 Is that accurate? 1056 00:52:10,047 --> 00:52:12,090 - There is nothing I can say on that topic, 1057 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:13,675 but that sounds like a big number. 1058 00:52:13,675 --> 00:52:16,386 [woman laughs] - That would be nice, wouldn't it? 1059 00:52:16,386 --> 00:52:19,014 - Sounds big. 1060 00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:21,600 ♪ suspenseful music playing ♪ [camera shutter clicking] 1061 00:52:25,896 --> 00:52:27,439 [cash register bell rings] 1062 00:52:29,691 --> 00:52:32,361 ♪ music tempo increasing ♪ [train wheels clacking] 1063 00:52:33,737 --> 00:52:37,658 [chanting "WeWork"] 1064 00:52:57,594 --> 00:52:59,721 - I don't remember the exact moment 1065 00:52:59,721 --> 00:53:04,017 I first heard about the SoftBank investment. 1066 00:53:04,017 --> 00:53:06,436 You would hear rumors. 1067 00:53:06,436 --> 00:53:08,313 And to me it just seemed normal, you know. 1068 00:53:08,313 --> 00:53:09,898 They were raising money every year. 1069 00:53:09,898 --> 00:53:12,568 Their growth expectations were really high. 1070 00:53:12,568 --> 00:53:15,320 I didn't think it would be... 1071 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,657 as transformative as it ended up being. 1072 00:53:20,492 --> 00:53:22,870 ALEX: With the SoftBank money, WeWork is able 1073 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:26,206 to massively accelerate global expansion plans. 1074 00:53:26,206 --> 00:53:29,543 SoftBank unlocks Asia in a new way. 1075 00:53:29,543 --> 00:53:32,963 You know, this meets Adam's big ambitions. 1076 00:53:32,963 --> 00:53:35,382 DON: I mean, the growth was insane. 1077 00:53:35,382 --> 00:53:39,011 In the two and a half years I was at WeWork, I negotiated more deals 1078 00:53:39,011 --> 00:53:41,763 and spoke to more lawyers than I probably will the rest of my life. 1079 00:53:41,763 --> 00:53:45,017 QUINTON: Typically on a project you wanna make sure it's photography-ready. 1080 00:53:45,017 --> 00:53:48,937 You want it to look perfectly staged. You wanna have a good first impression. 1081 00:53:48,937 --> 00:53:51,231 You go to a WeWork opening "day of," 1082 00:53:51,231 --> 00:53:53,692 they'd still be painting, there'd be ladders everywhere. 1083 00:53:53,692 --> 00:53:54,985 People would be installing lights. 1084 00:53:54,985 --> 00:53:56,820 The AC wouldn't be working. 1085 00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:59,114 Because of the speed of everything, 1086 00:53:59,114 --> 00:54:01,575 nothing was finished when it should have been. 1087 00:54:01,575 --> 00:54:04,912 DON: And the major goal, from what I could tell, was just, 1088 00:54:04,912 --> 00:54:08,123 how many offices could open and how much you could say the offices were filled 1089 00:54:08,123 --> 00:54:09,333 and how many people were in them. 1090 00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:11,418 It's almost like at car dealerships 1091 00:54:11,418 --> 00:54:13,837 in craziness with getting the cars sold at the end of the month. 1092 00:54:13,837 --> 00:54:16,715 You know, sales guy comes to me, it's the last day of the month, 1093 00:54:16,715 --> 00:54:18,926 and, you know, "I really have to do this deal. 1094 00:54:18,926 --> 00:54:22,429 It's 800 desks. It's gonna help us to get to the goal." 1095 00:54:22,429 --> 00:54:24,515 And, you know, I look at the deal and it's like, 1096 00:54:24,515 --> 00:54:26,058 you know, "First eight months free, 1097 00:54:26,058 --> 00:54:28,101 and WeWork's building custom space." 1098 00:54:28,101 --> 00:54:30,395 And the response was, you know, "Get 'em in. 1099 00:54:30,395 --> 00:54:32,064 They love it, they'll grow." 1100 00:54:32,064 --> 00:54:34,566 And, you know, I come to find out 1101 00:54:34,566 --> 00:54:37,194 that the small company that can't afford to pay 1102 00:54:37,194 --> 00:54:41,198 for the 800 seats for eight months is Microsoft. 1103 00:54:41,198 --> 00:54:43,742 ALEX: They stopped being those savvy deal makers 1104 00:54:43,742 --> 00:54:48,205 and the edge that they might have been bringing to negotiations is gone. 1105 00:54:48,205 --> 00:54:50,749 Plus, of course, everyone talks, and so 1106 00:54:50,749 --> 00:54:54,753 if everyone knows that SoftBank has given these guys a ton of money, 1107 00:54:54,753 --> 00:54:58,298 are you really gonna let them cry "poor" or drive a really hard bargain? 1108 00:54:58,298 --> 00:54:59,842 You're gonna say, "No," you know. 1109 00:54:59,842 --> 00:55:02,553 "You guys have billions of dollars, you know, let us in." 1110 00:55:02,553 --> 00:55:06,139 RANDALL: The ship of state, all the employees, 1111 00:55:06,139 --> 00:55:09,309 all the tenants and the customers, all the partners, 1112 00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:10,769 were leaning on Adam. 1113 00:55:10,769 --> 00:55:13,230 Again, even Miguel, who's co-founder, 1114 00:55:13,230 --> 00:55:16,859 slowly... was shunted aside. 1115 00:55:16,859 --> 00:55:18,527 Adam wanted the spotlight. 1116 00:55:18,527 --> 00:55:21,196 Then he wanted Rebekah to share the spotlight. 1117 00:55:21,196 --> 00:55:25,492 ALEX: She became a bigger executive at WeWork. 1118 00:55:25,492 --> 00:55:28,120 And it speaks to kind of her power with Adam 1119 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,415 and with the company that, over time, it's kind of like, 1120 00:55:31,415 --> 00:55:33,292 "Oh, now there are three co-founders, 1121 00:55:33,292 --> 00:55:36,503 there's Adam, Miguel, and Rebekah." 1122 00:55:36,503 --> 00:55:40,299 JOANNA: Adam felt that she had pulled him out of whatever spiral that he was in. 1123 00:55:40,299 --> 00:55:42,759 And he gave her a lot of credence for that, 1124 00:55:42,759 --> 00:55:46,138 and he really felt like she was the backbone of their family. 1125 00:55:46,138 --> 00:55:50,142 That doesn't mean she belongs in a corporate environment. 1126 00:55:50,142 --> 00:55:53,020 - She had the sort of like New Age vibe 1127 00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:55,397 and she starts guiding a huge amount of decisions at WeWork 1128 00:55:55,397 --> 00:55:57,357 about the way they spent their money. 1129 00:55:57,357 --> 00:55:59,568 Adam's and Rebekah's spiritual advisor 1130 00:55:59,568 --> 00:56:02,196 would speak to executives on a weekly basis, 1131 00:56:02,196 --> 00:56:06,825 and this constant dose of spiritualism was due to Rebekah. 1132 00:56:06,825 --> 00:56:09,077 [cheering] ADAM: Hello, New York. 1133 00:56:09,077 --> 00:56:10,162 Hello, WeWork. 1134 00:56:10,162 --> 00:56:12,748 Hello, global citizens of this Earth. 1135 00:56:12,748 --> 00:56:15,876 You know what a global citizen of this Earth is? 1136 00:56:15,876 --> 00:56:17,669 It's a member of the We generation, 1137 00:56:17,669 --> 00:56:20,255 and a member of the We generation does not discriminate 1138 00:56:20,255 --> 00:56:23,884 with age, race, gender, or religion. 1139 00:56:23,884 --> 00:56:27,137 If you're a member of the We generation, make some noise! 1140 00:56:27,137 --> 00:56:29,681 [cheering] 1141 00:56:29,681 --> 00:56:31,850 - WeWork is also expanding 1142 00:56:31,850 --> 00:56:35,771 its kind of diverse and sometimes confusing portfolio. 1143 00:56:35,771 --> 00:56:38,815 It makes a bunch of acquisitions of other startups. 1144 00:56:38,815 --> 00:56:40,776 ADAM: We had this idea of, 1145 00:56:40,776 --> 00:56:43,111 why don't we just invest money in companies that make impact? 1146 00:56:43,111 --> 00:56:45,531 All the employees will wanna work for them, 1147 00:56:45,531 --> 00:56:49,117 everybody wanna be part of it, and it's just gonna work out in an amazing way. 1148 00:56:49,117 --> 00:56:51,286 And I looked at our team and everybody looked at each other. 1149 00:56:51,286 --> 00:56:52,913 They said, "Of course, Adam, 1150 00:56:52,913 --> 00:56:54,915 that makes a lot of sense, but who's gonna pay for that?" 1151 00:56:54,915 --> 00:56:56,625 And we said, "Well... 1152 00:56:56,625 --> 00:56:58,126 Masa might..." No. 1153 00:56:58,126 --> 00:56:59,628 We said, "Well..." 1154 00:56:59,628 --> 00:57:01,088 That was a private joke. 1155 00:57:01,088 --> 00:57:03,757 - I went back to meet with Adam 1156 00:57:03,757 --> 00:57:06,510 at sort of the new-and-improved headquarters. 1157 00:57:06,510 --> 00:57:09,012 I get sort of the quick version of the tour 1158 00:57:09,012 --> 00:57:11,723 and now WeWork has its own barista. 1159 00:57:11,723 --> 00:57:15,018 So I say, "Okay, I want a cappuccino," 1160 00:57:15,018 --> 00:57:17,271 and Adam orders a latte. 1161 00:57:17,271 --> 00:57:20,274 And I reach for my coffee, 1162 00:57:20,274 --> 00:57:22,943 and Adam's like, "Oh, no, no, that's mine." 1163 00:57:22,943 --> 00:57:25,779 And I was like, "No... Hold on, you know. 1164 00:57:25,779 --> 00:57:28,824 I got the cappuccino. Like that's a cappuccino." 1165 00:57:28,824 --> 00:57:32,619 And Adam just looks really confused and upset. 1166 00:57:32,619 --> 00:57:36,456 And one of the staff is like, "Oh, I'm sorry. 1167 00:57:36,456 --> 00:57:39,960 We actually call those lattes and those cappuccinos here," 1168 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,879 pointing at the opposite one. 1169 00:57:41,879 --> 00:57:46,008 It stood out to me as just like a strange, gratuitous 1170 00:57:46,008 --> 00:57:51,013 reality-distortion moment around Adam because he was ordering lattes 1171 00:57:51,013 --> 00:57:53,015 but wants cappuccinos. 1172 00:57:53,015 --> 00:57:55,559 And rather than try to explain to him that he's wrong, 1173 00:57:55,559 --> 00:57:57,603 they're just gonna change the meaning of that word. 1174 00:57:59,521 --> 00:58:00,939 RANDALL: The money got insane. 1175 00:58:00,939 --> 00:58:03,609 And they shifted from this little idea... 1176 00:58:03,609 --> 00:58:06,653 Then it was, "Okay, we're now going to tell you how to live, WeLive. 1177 00:58:06,653 --> 00:58:08,697 And now we're gonna redefine how you live." 1178 00:58:08,697 --> 00:58:10,908 And that wasn't good enough. "WeGrow. 1179 00:58:10,908 --> 00:58:12,367 We're gonna educate your kids better." 1180 00:58:12,367 --> 00:58:14,286 - When my eldest daughter was in kindergarten, 1181 00:58:14,286 --> 00:58:16,205 as we started to look around for schools 1182 00:58:16,205 --> 00:58:18,749 in both New York and the west coast, 1183 00:58:18,749 --> 00:58:23,462 I wasn't finding a place that was gonna nurture her spirit and her soul 1184 00:58:23,462 --> 00:58:25,422 as much as her mind. 1185 00:58:25,422 --> 00:58:27,132 DON: You know, at some point 1186 00:58:27,132 --> 00:58:29,676 Rebekah was talking to the company about WeGrow, 1187 00:58:29,676 --> 00:58:32,763 and she's talking in front of a cross-section of 700 employees, 1188 00:58:32,763 --> 00:58:34,598 and is basically saying that, 1189 00:58:34,598 --> 00:58:37,559 New York City private schools aren't good enough for our children. 1190 00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:41,522 And then meanwhile, you're gonna start a school that has 1191 00:58:41,522 --> 00:58:46,568 like a 35, 40 grand tuition fee per elementary school kid. 1192 00:58:46,568 --> 00:58:49,071 That school is exclusionary to a lot of people, right? 1193 00:58:49,071 --> 00:58:54,868 That's just a prototypical person who's grown up in certain circles 1194 00:58:54,868 --> 00:58:57,538 and doesn't realize there's other people in the world. 1195 00:58:57,538 --> 00:59:01,792 RANDALL: The idea that you're gonna reinvent work 1196 00:59:01,792 --> 00:59:04,586 is incredibly audacious unto itself. 1197 00:59:04,586 --> 00:59:08,257 To say, "While we're doing that, we're also gonna reinvent education..." 1198 00:59:08,257 --> 00:59:11,093 which people have been trying to do for centuries, 1199 00:59:11,093 --> 00:59:15,013 that's the kind of decision tree that you see in a company 1200 00:59:15,013 --> 00:59:18,392 where you start to believe your own BS. 1201 00:59:18,392 --> 00:59:21,061 HOST: All right, welcome, everyone, to The School of Greatness podcast. 1202 00:59:21,061 --> 00:59:23,230 We've got Rebekah Neumann in the house. 1203 00:59:23,230 --> 00:59:25,566 - Thanks for having me. - Yeah, this is fun. 1204 00:59:25,566 --> 00:59:28,861 What is the mission of WeGrow, just so I understand clearly? 1205 00:59:28,861 --> 00:59:32,155 - The mission of WeGrow, and quite honestly the collective "we" 1206 00:59:32,155 --> 00:59:33,365 that we're all living under, 1207 00:59:33,365 --> 00:59:35,284 is to elevate the world's consciousness. 1208 00:59:35,284 --> 00:59:38,537 HOST: Hmm. - At WeGrow, specifically, 1209 00:59:38,537 --> 00:59:41,081 through unleashing every human's superpowers 1210 00:59:41,081 --> 00:59:43,417 and expanding happiness. 1211 00:59:43,417 --> 00:59:45,002 - Okay, and it's... 1212 00:59:45,002 --> 00:59:47,045 And WeGrow is starting as a school? - Yes. 1213 00:59:47,045 --> 00:59:50,090 - But it's going to be evolving into much more, I'm assuming, right? 1214 00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:52,509 - It's kind of a practice and a new approach to life. 1215 00:59:52,509 --> 00:59:55,345 We have started with children, but we're... 1216 00:59:55,345 --> 00:59:58,307 as soon as next week starting to pilot some of the curriculum 1217 00:59:58,307 --> 01:00:00,309 on our WeGrownups. 1218 01:00:00,309 --> 01:00:01,935 - Really? - Uh-huh. 1219 01:00:01,935 --> 01:00:03,604 - Is that what you call us? - Just for the moment. 1220 01:00:03,604 --> 01:00:05,105 - For fun, yeah. - Yeah, why not? 1221 01:00:08,483 --> 01:00:10,235 AUGUST: I was working in WeWork 1222 01:00:10,235 --> 01:00:13,197 and living in WeLive. 1223 01:00:13,197 --> 01:00:16,533 My entire life... 1224 01:00:16,533 --> 01:00:19,953 was being propped up by the We community. 1225 01:00:19,953 --> 01:00:24,041 Every time a friend outside of the We community would come over, 1226 01:00:24,041 --> 01:00:26,627 they would only come over that one time. 1227 01:00:26,627 --> 01:00:30,756 Because they would walk out with this strange impression of what it is. 1228 01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:37,221 And pretty quickly I had 1229 01:00:37,221 --> 01:00:40,682 alienated most of my friends outside of the building. 1230 01:00:42,226 --> 01:00:44,353 - When Adam had an investor coming through, 1231 01:00:44,353 --> 01:00:46,730 we would know ahead of time or 10 minutes before, 1232 01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:48,941 and we were being told, "Go into the space. 1233 01:00:48,941 --> 01:00:51,151 Just hang out, be casual. Bring your laptop." 1234 01:00:51,151 --> 01:00:53,529 And we would go there and activate the space. 1235 01:00:53,529 --> 01:00:55,906 AUGUST: They were like, "Everybody should come," 1236 01:00:55,906 --> 01:00:58,992 just so there's pockets of folks that are 1237 01:00:58,992 --> 01:01:03,080 living the WeLive life so Adam can come and sort of show it off. 1238 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,623 ♪ "Juicy" by Notorious B. I. G. playing ♪ 1239 01:01:04,623 --> 01:01:07,709 - ♪ I used to read Word Up! magazine... ♪ 1240 01:01:07,709 --> 01:01:10,462 QUINTON: And they'd put on "Juicy" by Biggie Smalls, 1241 01:01:10,462 --> 01:01:13,006 and they'd be playing a loop over and over again, 1242 01:01:13,006 --> 01:01:15,759 waiting for that one moment when the investor came 1243 01:01:15,759 --> 01:01:18,387 so that when they walked the space, we were there 1244 01:01:18,387 --> 01:01:20,681 just to fill it up and make it look good. 1245 01:01:20,681 --> 01:01:22,975 AUGUST: Adam showed up with this investor 1246 01:01:22,975 --> 01:01:27,020 and with every drink, he had another vision of what WeWork could be, 1247 01:01:27,020 --> 01:01:31,275 like the We community could be, what it was growing into. 1248 01:01:31,275 --> 01:01:32,985 And... 1249 01:01:32,985 --> 01:01:37,489 at a certain point, you're like, "Dude, just shut the fuck up, man. 1250 01:01:37,489 --> 01:01:39,449 "Like, we are just having a good time. 1251 01:01:39,449 --> 01:01:41,827 "Can we just... can we just hang out 1252 01:01:41,827 --> 01:01:45,539 and have this drink and just talk about anything else?" 1253 01:01:45,539 --> 01:01:48,500 It got really draining and really exhausting, 1254 01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:51,587 to constantly... 1255 01:01:51,587 --> 01:01:54,506 be a part of... this... 1256 01:01:55,924 --> 01:01:57,092 thing. 1257 01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:00,929 DEREK: The initial clients of WeWork 1258 01:02:00,929 --> 01:02:03,390 thought that they were members. 1259 01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:05,475 But they were actually a resource 1260 01:02:05,475 --> 01:02:09,563 from which WeWork could extract a reputation 1261 01:02:09,563 --> 01:02:12,941 and then they could sort of slingshot that reputation 1262 01:02:12,941 --> 01:02:15,485 to get big corporations to think, 1263 01:02:15,485 --> 01:02:18,739 "We need to ask WeWork 1264 01:02:18,739 --> 01:02:21,909 "how to attract the best and brightest 1265 01:02:21,909 --> 01:02:24,536 of this up-and-coming generation." 1266 01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:29,249 MEGAN: I eventually, I was promoted to operations manager, 1267 01:02:29,249 --> 01:02:32,961 and so I was getting a little more distant from Adam. 1268 01:02:32,961 --> 01:02:37,508 His excitement isn't so close to me that I... 1269 01:02:37,508 --> 01:02:41,345 am breathing it in and, like, intoxicated by it. 1270 01:02:41,345 --> 01:02:47,059 And I'm able to start seeing more clearly that he was manipulative. 1271 01:02:47,059 --> 01:02:50,103 He had ways of using psychology 1272 01:02:50,103 --> 01:02:54,066 to maneuver through people's flaws 1273 01:02:54,066 --> 01:02:56,485 and to use that to his benefit. 1274 01:02:57,903 --> 01:02:59,988 Adam was giving me a review. 1275 01:02:59,988 --> 01:03:02,491 We were in one of the glass conference rooms. 1276 01:03:02,491 --> 01:03:05,953 He was telling me I was doing a great job. 1277 01:03:05,953 --> 01:03:08,956 And then another employee walked by 1278 01:03:08,956 --> 01:03:13,126 who was very peppy and very pretty, 1279 01:03:13,126 --> 01:03:16,088 and he said, "But you're not her." 1280 01:03:16,088 --> 01:03:18,507 And he pointed out her and said, "You could be, 1281 01:03:18,507 --> 01:03:21,009 but you don't have the confidence that she has." 1282 01:03:22,761 --> 01:03:25,514 I went home and thought, "What do I need to do 1283 01:03:25,514 --> 01:03:27,975 to become a better employee here and become like her?" 1284 01:03:30,185 --> 01:03:35,440 You're constantly in this fear of, "somebody else is gonna take my job. 1285 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,401 I have to fight to stay here." 1286 01:03:37,401 --> 01:03:40,612 Like, I felt constantly like I couldn't just breathe. 1287 01:03:42,322 --> 01:03:46,952 Adam would state, "I could fire all of you and do this by myself." 1288 01:03:48,078 --> 01:03:53,250 That's a bold statement to say to people who are working their ass off for you. 1289 01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:57,254 - Good morning. - Shalom. 1290 01:03:57,254 --> 01:03:58,922 - Shalom. Um... 1291 01:03:58,922 --> 01:04:00,424 I'm sure that there are lots of people here 1292 01:04:00,424 --> 01:04:02,843 who know what WeWork is, who maybe have worked 1293 01:04:02,843 --> 01:04:05,804 in one or several WeWorks... 1294 01:04:05,804 --> 01:04:10,184 DEREK: So I met Adam in Washington, D.C. for an event. 1295 01:04:10,184 --> 01:04:12,519 My friends who worked at WeWork told me about him. 1296 01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:16,440 And they just said this was 1297 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,859 one of the most charismatic... 1298 01:04:18,859 --> 01:04:20,903 one of the most visionary 1299 01:04:20,903 --> 01:04:24,698 and ingenious leaders 1300 01:04:24,698 --> 01:04:27,618 of any tech company in the world. 1301 01:04:27,618 --> 01:04:30,829 He just sounded like a mythical figure. 1302 01:04:30,829 --> 01:04:33,415 And I was just really curious, like, 1303 01:04:33,415 --> 01:04:38,212 what does he understand about leasing real estate and subdividing it? 1304 01:04:38,212 --> 01:04:39,588 Like, we're talking about 1305 01:04:39,588 --> 01:04:43,342 one of the most boring business models in the world, 1306 01:04:43,342 --> 01:04:45,260 and I was really curious to know what was behind it. 1307 01:04:45,260 --> 01:04:47,846 It's fascinating to me about WeWork because 1308 01:04:47,846 --> 01:04:49,389 lots of people here who have been there, 1309 01:04:49,389 --> 01:04:52,226 they've seen how lovely the interior decoration is. 1310 01:04:52,226 --> 01:04:56,063 But there are lots of companies that make beautiful spaces. 1311 01:04:56,063 --> 01:04:59,358 Um, but they're not worth $20 billion, 1312 01:04:59,358 --> 01:05:01,902 which is WeWork's most recent valuation. 1313 01:05:01,902 --> 01:05:05,906 So I wonder what do you consider to be your special sauce? 1314 01:05:05,906 --> 01:05:08,492 - So, first of all, excellent question. 1315 01:05:08,492 --> 01:05:12,287 From the first day that we started WeWork, it was about bringing people together. 1316 01:05:12,287 --> 01:05:14,748 As our mission, and our mission always... 1317 01:05:14,748 --> 01:05:17,334 - And his answer was everything that we've heard in the last few years, 1318 01:05:17,334 --> 01:05:19,336 it's that they were doing something special with the culture, 1319 01:05:19,336 --> 01:05:22,965 that their special sauce couldn't be found in earnings 1320 01:05:22,965 --> 01:05:24,883 or cash flow or revenue. 1321 01:05:24,883 --> 01:05:27,511 It was a... a spirit of We 1322 01:05:27,511 --> 01:05:29,596 that was the truly distinguishing part of this company. 1323 01:05:29,596 --> 01:05:31,765 - And the one thing, you say, "Are you a co-working space?" 1324 01:05:31,765 --> 01:05:34,935 We're as much a co-working space as Amazon is a book-selling store. 1325 01:05:34,935 --> 01:05:37,563 Anybody who thought that Amazon was there just to sell books 1326 01:05:37,563 --> 01:05:40,399 just didn't understand the vision, and you just need to look now and see 1327 01:05:40,399 --> 01:05:42,025 how much greater the vision is. 1328 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:44,987 DEREK: You know, I wish I'd pressed him harder on it. 1329 01:05:44,987 --> 01:05:46,780 But I didn't because 1330 01:05:46,780 --> 01:05:50,617 I had no idea what the company actually was. 1331 01:05:50,617 --> 01:05:52,786 And I think in the case of Adam Neumann, 1332 01:05:52,786 --> 01:05:57,541 there were a lot of people who were impressed by his live charisma, 1333 01:05:57,541 --> 01:06:02,254 who privately harbored doubts about exactly how all of this worked. 1334 01:06:02,254 --> 01:06:05,007 I was one of them, I suppose, you know? 1335 01:06:05,007 --> 01:06:06,925 I didn't say in that interview, 1336 01:06:06,925 --> 01:06:10,554 "I think that this company is just, you know, a lot of smoke and mirrors." 1337 01:06:10,554 --> 01:06:12,181 I didn't, I didn't know for sure. 1338 01:06:12,181 --> 01:06:15,184 I just privately harbored this doubt that said that 1339 01:06:15,184 --> 01:06:17,352 this was all kind of a magic show. 1340 01:06:17,352 --> 01:06:19,938 - So our first mission was, create the world where people make a life. 1341 01:06:19,938 --> 01:06:23,400 That was for WeWork. WeLive is helping you live and not just exist. 1342 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,235 And now we have a WeOS, 1343 01:06:25,235 --> 01:06:27,779 which is our operating system for physical spaces. 1344 01:06:27,779 --> 01:06:30,699 And it's growing very fast and it's everything from your entry system 1345 01:06:30,699 --> 01:06:33,202 when you enter the building, but then how do you book a conference room 1346 01:06:33,202 --> 01:06:35,704 and how do you attend an event and who's signed in the building...? 1347 01:06:35,704 --> 01:06:39,917 STEVE: Real estate usually is a very dependable, predictable business. 1348 01:06:39,917 --> 01:06:41,960 It doesn't grow that much, but it's steady. 1349 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,754 You can kind of map out these returns. 1350 01:06:43,754 --> 01:06:48,217 But WeWork was growing so fast that it was being valued 1351 01:06:48,217 --> 01:06:52,429 by investors as an ultrafast growth, 1352 01:06:52,429 --> 01:06:54,723 low-overhead technology company. 1353 01:06:54,723 --> 01:06:59,269 LISA: They created this sort of Facebook-type platform for members 1354 01:06:59,269 --> 01:07:02,564 where you could get people connected through technology. 1355 01:07:02,564 --> 01:07:05,734 DON: WeWork has what's like its internal LinkedIn, I call it, right? 1356 01:07:05,734 --> 01:07:07,402 It's called the WeWork Member Network. 1357 01:07:07,402 --> 01:07:09,112 You know, you have your profile page. 1358 01:07:09,112 --> 01:07:11,031 - Adam was often saying, 1359 01:07:11,031 --> 01:07:13,575 "Oh, and people are posting job opportunities 1360 01:07:13,575 --> 01:07:16,161 and connecting with each other on the platform." 1361 01:07:16,161 --> 01:07:19,665 ALEX: They had acquired a bunch of interesting technologies 1362 01:07:19,665 --> 01:07:22,292 and were stitching together what might have been by far 1363 01:07:22,292 --> 01:07:25,963 the most comprehensive tool for how people work. 1364 01:07:25,963 --> 01:07:29,258 ADAM: We use beacon technology but a lot of other aspects. 1365 01:07:29,258 --> 01:07:32,135 We're using our video cameras to actually see where interactions are happening. 1366 01:07:32,135 --> 01:07:36,181 And our entire process is built to make our members more successful. 1367 01:07:36,181 --> 01:07:38,392 ALEX: The cynical read, of course, is, 1368 01:07:38,392 --> 01:07:42,729 well, those intentions are all great, but what you still do is office space 1369 01:07:42,729 --> 01:07:44,857 and you are a real estate company. 1370 01:07:44,857 --> 01:07:48,652 But I think that, you know, when companies are private, 1371 01:07:48,652 --> 01:07:51,530 it's hard for us to know what's happening behind the scenes. 1372 01:07:54,658 --> 01:07:57,744 - My business is called Thinknum Alternative Data. 1373 01:07:57,744 --> 01:08:02,791 And we index and crawl public information from the Web. 1374 01:08:02,791 --> 01:08:07,880 Our bots just happened to add WeWork into our list of companies, 1375 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,843 and then our bots found something astonishing about WeWork. 1376 01:08:12,843 --> 01:08:17,848 WeWork painted themselves as this company that was growing extremely fast, 1377 01:08:17,848 --> 01:08:22,144 and once people joined they don't really leave. 1378 01:08:22,144 --> 01:08:25,480 But using data on the public Web, 1379 01:08:25,480 --> 01:08:27,858 we actually plotted the churn rate, 1380 01:08:27,858 --> 01:08:31,445 which is how many people join and then leave. 1381 01:08:31,445 --> 01:08:34,823 And we did see that the churn rate had increased 1382 01:08:34,823 --> 01:08:36,950 and this was accelerating. 1383 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:39,494 The other trend we found was 1384 01:08:39,494 --> 01:08:42,414 no one ever used their internal social network. 1385 01:08:43,498 --> 01:08:46,460 When you call yourselves a technology company, 1386 01:08:46,460 --> 01:08:50,881 and when you actually build a social network to help further paint that picture, 1387 01:08:50,881 --> 01:08:54,551 if no one uses it, then you're not a technology company. 1388 01:08:54,551 --> 01:08:56,053 [keying on keyboard] 1389 01:08:56,053 --> 01:08:58,680 Our next instinct was, let's write a blog post 1390 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,474 and, you know, just share our findings. 1391 01:09:00,474 --> 01:09:02,643 It really started taking off there. 1392 01:09:02,643 --> 01:09:07,314 Then, about three hours later, WeWork sent us an email 1393 01:09:07,314 --> 01:09:11,193 asking if we could take down the blog post. 1394 01:09:11,193 --> 01:09:14,404 Our first instinct was to just ignore it. 1395 01:09:14,404 --> 01:09:20,035 And then the community manager stopped by to our office. 1396 01:09:20,035 --> 01:09:21,787 And she says, 1397 01:09:21,787 --> 01:09:25,874 "You've violated our membership happiness clause," 1398 01:09:25,874 --> 01:09:29,837 and the kicker was, she said, "You have 30 minutes to leave." [laughs] 1399 01:09:29,837 --> 01:09:34,049 In the wake of our blog post and publication, 1400 01:09:34,049 --> 01:09:36,260 WeWork kept raising more money. 1401 01:09:40,472 --> 01:09:44,518 SCOTT: I first read about WeWork when they raised money on SoftBank, 1402 01:09:44,518 --> 01:09:47,396 at a $20 billion valuation. 1403 01:09:47,396 --> 01:09:50,607 And at that point they had about 200 locations. 1404 01:09:50,607 --> 01:09:53,110 I went through and looked at the buildings 1405 01:09:53,110 --> 01:09:55,404 that they actually had their facilities in. 1406 01:09:55,404 --> 01:09:58,282 And I determined at that valuation 1407 01:09:58,282 --> 01:10:01,827 that the 200 buildings were each worth less 1408 01:10:01,827 --> 01:10:05,122 than that WeWork office was being valued at. 1409 01:10:06,748 --> 01:10:10,836 And I said that WeWork was the most overvalued private company in the world. 1410 01:10:12,921 --> 01:10:18,260 ALEX: Adam Neumann told us repeatedly that WeWork was profitable. 1411 01:10:18,260 --> 01:10:20,429 We've since found out 1412 01:10:20,429 --> 01:10:24,433 that how Neumann and WeWork were considering themselves profitable 1413 01:10:24,433 --> 01:10:26,685 was a stretch at best. 1414 01:10:27,436 --> 01:10:29,062 WOMAN: Are you profitable? 1415 01:10:29,062 --> 01:10:31,064 ADAM: So we are... as per choice. 1416 01:10:31,064 --> 01:10:33,984 Because when you have a 40% business, when you have a margin, 1417 01:10:33,984 --> 01:10:36,695 you can actually choose when to be profitable. WOMAN: Right. 1418 01:10:36,695 --> 01:10:40,449 - We like to hover around an EBITDA, a break even, 1419 01:10:40,449 --> 01:10:42,868 and then we can choose when we wanna move, where we wanna move. 1420 01:10:42,868 --> 01:10:45,579 Right now we're in a very high-growth stage of our business, 1421 01:10:45,579 --> 01:10:49,082 and we don't see that stopping anytime soon. 1422 01:10:49,082 --> 01:10:50,417 - So EBITDA-- 1423 01:10:50,417 --> 01:10:53,128 earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization-- 1424 01:10:53,128 --> 01:10:57,925 is sort of this accepted metric for how profitable a company might be. 1425 01:10:57,925 --> 01:11:01,512 But WeWork started inventing their own financial metrics 1426 01:11:01,512 --> 01:11:04,348 to enter into this consensual hallucination, 1427 01:11:04,348 --> 01:11:08,227 and they used this term "community adjusted EBITDA." 1428 01:11:08,227 --> 01:11:09,937 Basically it was an attempt to say, 1429 01:11:09,937 --> 01:11:14,358 "we want to pretend to be profitable by ignoring these expenses." 1430 01:11:14,358 --> 01:11:16,443 MAUREEN: They adjusted for things 1431 01:11:16,443 --> 01:11:20,322 that were ridiculous to strip out and say you're profitable. 1432 01:11:20,322 --> 01:11:23,742 So suddenly they went from a loss-making company 1433 01:11:23,742 --> 01:11:25,953 to a profitable company, 1434 01:11:25,953 --> 01:11:30,082 just by financial engineering and gimmickry. 1435 01:11:30,082 --> 01:11:34,878 Every year WeWork would project profits, 1436 01:11:34,878 --> 01:11:37,256 would fail to make any profits 1437 01:11:37,256 --> 01:11:40,676 and actually their losses would get larger and larger. 1438 01:11:40,676 --> 01:11:46,265 Yet investors in the private markets kept on bidding up the price of WeWork. 1439 01:11:46,265 --> 01:11:48,392 It kept on getting higher and higher and higher. 1440 01:11:48,392 --> 01:11:51,562 It's sort of mind-boggling that that happened. 1441 01:11:51,562 --> 01:11:55,732 And I mean that more than anything else speaks to the gifts of Adam Neumann. 1442 01:11:55,732 --> 01:11:59,653 - It is my honor and pleasure to introduce to you right now 1443 01:11:59,653 --> 01:12:02,239 our co-founders, Miguel McKelvey and Adam Neumann. 1444 01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:04,157 Help me welcome them to the stage! 1445 01:12:07,494 --> 01:12:08,912 - Shalom! 1446 01:12:10,914 --> 01:12:13,542 LIRON: I was proud to see the events continue to grow. 1447 01:12:15,294 --> 01:12:17,629 But I saw the change in Adam. 1448 01:12:17,629 --> 01:12:20,007 I think it was money blindness. 1449 01:12:20,841 --> 01:12:24,761 There's so much money behind us that nothing can happen, right? 1450 01:12:24,761 --> 01:12:27,181 We'd become untouchable, in a sense. 1451 01:12:27,181 --> 01:12:28,765 [audience applauding] 1452 01:12:28,765 --> 01:12:31,268 It started to feel like it was more just about the business 1453 01:12:31,268 --> 01:12:36,523 and not about this community that I grew to love over those many years. 1454 01:12:37,316 --> 01:12:41,320 I think that's where I started to lose my creative juices for the company. 1455 01:12:42,321 --> 01:12:45,032 QUINTON: After my first summer camp, 1456 01:12:45,032 --> 01:12:46,992 I tried to get out of entering the second year. 1457 01:12:46,992 --> 01:12:51,371 I sat down with one of the executives and explained to her that, 1458 01:12:51,371 --> 01:12:53,624 "Last year I went, I didn't enjoy myself. 1459 01:12:53,624 --> 01:12:57,586 It's not for everybody, and please don't make me go again." 1460 01:12:57,586 --> 01:13:01,048 And she kindly said, "I see your point, 1461 01:13:01,048 --> 01:13:05,594 but it's a mandatory event, as most company outings are." 1462 01:13:05,594 --> 01:13:09,765 - The "We" is, I think, the really big thing in 1463 01:13:09,765 --> 01:13:11,934 the mission of what we're doing. 1464 01:13:11,934 --> 01:13:15,896 So let's just close our eyes for one second. 1465 01:13:15,896 --> 01:13:18,982 Close eyes, hold hands. 1466 01:13:18,982 --> 01:13:22,277 DON: The way these events worked was that you would go 1467 01:13:22,277 --> 01:13:24,947 hear presentations for like almost eight hours a day 1468 01:13:24,947 --> 01:13:26,823 for maybe two or three days. 1469 01:13:27,741 --> 01:13:32,204 And to make sure that people were actually attending... 1470 01:13:32,204 --> 01:13:34,122 we had tracking bracelets on. 1471 01:13:34,122 --> 01:13:37,376 REBEKAH: Just think about a reality in which 1472 01:13:37,376 --> 01:13:41,547 the energy that we're feeling right now with one another 1473 01:13:41,547 --> 01:13:45,968 is an energy of unity, an energy where I am you and you are me 1474 01:13:45,968 --> 01:13:48,178 and we all are we. 1475 01:13:48,178 --> 01:13:50,305 QUINTON: They would address the crowd, 1476 01:13:50,305 --> 01:13:54,393 uh, talking about whatever word of the day that was... 1477 01:13:54,393 --> 01:13:56,144 like "authenticity." 1478 01:13:56,144 --> 01:13:58,188 And as we're sitting in the mud, I'm thinking, 1479 01:13:58,188 --> 01:14:01,483 "Well, you forced me to come to this summer camp and sit in the mud. 1480 01:14:01,483 --> 01:14:03,986 Nothing about this to me seems authentic." 1481 01:14:03,986 --> 01:14:06,363 ADAM: If we do the work right and we find a way 1482 01:14:06,363 --> 01:14:09,533 to become a real family in this community and company, 1483 01:14:09,533 --> 01:14:11,410 we could wake up one day and say, 1484 01:14:11,410 --> 01:14:14,496 "We want to solve the problem of children without parents in this world." 1485 01:14:14,496 --> 01:14:17,332 We can win-- and do it. REBEKAH: And children who are in abusive situations. 1486 01:14:17,332 --> 01:14:19,168 ADAM: And then children in abusive situations. 1487 01:14:19,168 --> 01:14:21,587 And from that we can go to world hunger, 1488 01:14:21,587 --> 01:14:24,423 and there's so many topics that we could take one by one, 1489 01:14:24,423 --> 01:14:28,635 and we will be able to tackle anything that we set our minds to. 1490 01:14:30,512 --> 01:14:32,764 MAUREEN: He would talk about being president of the world. 1491 01:14:32,764 --> 01:14:35,142 He would say things like that and people would say, 1492 01:14:35,142 --> 01:14:36,768 "Eh, is he serious?" 1493 01:14:36,768 --> 01:14:39,104 It seemed really wild and crazy, 1494 01:14:39,104 --> 01:14:43,775 but it was hard to make sense of what made sense in unicorn land. 1495 01:14:45,861 --> 01:14:49,823 ADAM: I wanted to talk a little bit about the past and where we came from. 1496 01:14:49,823 --> 01:14:52,034 We're not here by mistake. 1497 01:14:52,034 --> 01:14:55,078 This was thought about and planned 10 years ago. 1498 01:14:55,078 --> 01:14:57,789 And the funniest thing about it, from the day we moved to Brooklyn, 1499 01:14:57,789 --> 01:15:00,876 Miguel and I were meeting regularly, just like that picture, 1500 01:15:00,876 --> 01:15:02,836 planning for the future. 1501 01:15:02,836 --> 01:15:05,172 We knew that... 1502 01:15:06,048 --> 01:15:08,550 whatever it is we're looking for 1503 01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:10,636 must be greater than ourselves. 1504 01:15:10,636 --> 01:15:15,307 Moving forward the "We" company. 1505 01:15:17,601 --> 01:15:20,479 ALEX: SoftBank had bet on Adam as an entrepreneur. 1506 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,690 They knew that the valuation was high. 1507 01:15:23,690 --> 01:15:26,568 But they thought that, you know, a winner-take-all in this market, 1508 01:15:26,568 --> 01:15:28,529 like they had seen in other markets, 1509 01:15:28,529 --> 01:15:31,490 would be so big that they could, you know, tolerate 1510 01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:33,075 that, that valuation. 1511 01:15:33,075 --> 01:15:36,954 But when there's sort of a critical mass of doubt 1512 01:15:36,954 --> 01:15:39,289 coming back to SoftBank, 1513 01:15:39,289 --> 01:15:41,625 what are the sovereign wealth funds, 1514 01:15:41,625 --> 01:15:44,461 who are the biggest investors in SoftBank's Vision Fund, 1515 01:15:44,461 --> 01:15:45,671 what are they saying? 1516 01:15:47,589 --> 01:15:49,800 RANDALL: When you're raising $100 billion, 1517 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,885 you're going to the biggest deep-pocket sources, 1518 01:15:51,885 --> 01:15:54,179 so, of course, where does Masa go 1519 01:15:54,179 --> 01:15:57,099 but he goes to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia 1520 01:15:57,099 --> 01:15:59,685 and they became his biggest backers. 1521 01:15:59,685 --> 01:16:04,648 - The Saudis put dumb money into Masa Son's Vision Fund, 1522 01:16:04,648 --> 01:16:07,484 because he says, "I'll get you in on the ground floor 1523 01:16:07,484 --> 01:16:10,028 "of the next generation of great tech companies 1524 01:16:10,028 --> 01:16:11,738 "that are gonna rule the world. 1525 01:16:11,738 --> 01:16:16,243 Give me $45 billion, and I'll make you a trillion dollars." 1526 01:16:16,243 --> 01:16:18,579 RANDALL: They wanna get out of the oil business 1527 01:16:18,579 --> 01:16:21,206 and get into as many other businesses as possible. 1528 01:16:21,206 --> 01:16:23,750 Because they're sitting on a dwindling asset. 1529 01:16:23,750 --> 01:16:27,880 And so what better business to diversify than technology 1530 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,592 and what better way than with the most renowned tech investor in the world 1531 01:16:31,592 --> 01:16:34,928 who wants to play on the scale that you can play on? 1532 01:16:34,928 --> 01:16:39,266 - The problem, however, is that you can't really get in on the ground floor 1533 01:16:39,266 --> 01:16:42,019 at Facebook or Google or Amazon or Netflix. 1534 01:16:42,019 --> 01:16:43,604 It's way too late. 1535 01:16:43,604 --> 01:16:46,815 So you have Masa Son investing all this money in companies 1536 01:16:46,815 --> 01:16:51,486 he's telling the world are tech companies but aren't real tech companies. 1537 01:16:51,486 --> 01:16:54,615 RANDALL: And that's a lot of pressure to put on a team, 1538 01:16:54,615 --> 01:16:58,410 to say, "Pretty soon this company better be worth $100 billion," 1539 01:16:58,410 --> 01:17:01,830 and at some point you have to have the numbers to back up that valuation. 1540 01:17:01,830 --> 01:17:03,248 - You and me... 1541 01:17:03,248 --> 01:17:06,960 RANDALL: And that meant that they had to show growth 1542 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,212 at any cost. 1543 01:17:08,212 --> 01:17:10,005 And that's a problem. 1544 01:17:10,005 --> 01:17:13,425 - Show them your heart, show them your truth. 1545 01:17:13,425 --> 01:17:15,010 Never give up! 1546 01:17:15,010 --> 01:17:16,386 [crowd cheering, whistling] 1547 01:17:16,386 --> 01:17:18,639 Work until you drop! 1548 01:17:18,639 --> 01:17:20,474 [waves crashing] 1549 01:17:26,146 --> 01:17:28,649 ♪ Hawaiian band playing "Jingle Bells" ♪ 1550 01:17:35,864 --> 01:17:38,784 MAUREEN: It's Christmas Eve 2018, 1551 01:17:38,784 --> 01:17:42,371 Adam is with his family in Hawaii. 1552 01:17:42,371 --> 01:17:45,457 Surfing, you know, relaxing. It's vacation time. 1553 01:17:49,670 --> 01:17:52,339 Masa and Adam were working on a plan 1554 01:17:52,339 --> 01:17:55,551 that they were calling internally Project Fortitude. 1555 01:17:55,551 --> 01:17:59,680 And it was essentially a plan for SoftBank 1556 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,723 to spend about $20 billion 1557 01:18:01,723 --> 01:18:05,519 and become a majority owner of WeWork. 1558 01:18:07,604 --> 01:18:09,606 Because of SoftBank's money 1559 01:18:09,606 --> 01:18:13,443 and a lot of what Masa pushed Adam to do, 1560 01:18:13,443 --> 01:18:16,697 they were spending as if they were gonna have this deal done 1561 01:18:16,697 --> 01:18:20,033 and bring so much capital to keep growing. 1562 01:18:20,033 --> 01:18:22,661 There was this hole, this future hole coming, 1563 01:18:22,661 --> 01:18:25,455 that they were gonna need a lot more capital to fill it. 1564 01:18:27,749 --> 01:18:29,585 SCOTT: This was a company that was burning, 1565 01:18:29,585 --> 01:18:31,461 at one point, $100 million a week. 1566 01:18:31,461 --> 01:18:34,423 Think about this, you could buy two Bombardier Global Expresses 1567 01:18:34,423 --> 01:18:38,218 at $50 million each, crash both into a mountain, 1568 01:18:38,218 --> 01:18:40,888 and that was the burn every week of this company. 1569 01:18:42,514 --> 01:18:45,601 MAUREEN: And so kind of everything was working towards this goal 1570 01:18:45,601 --> 01:18:47,811 of this SoftBank partnership. 1571 01:18:49,229 --> 01:18:51,440 - There's something called the Nantucket Sleigh Ride, 1572 01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:53,859 which is, when you harpoon a whale, 1573 01:18:53,859 --> 01:18:57,487 you're supposed to bring him to the ship, but occasionally a Nantucket Sleigh Ride 1574 01:18:57,487 --> 01:19:00,115 is when the whale takes you out to sea and you're stuck. 1575 01:19:00,115 --> 01:19:03,827 You gotta ride that whale out even if that whale takes you to Greenland. 1576 01:19:03,827 --> 01:19:07,122 Adam clearly thought he was taking Masa on a Nantucket Sleigh Ride, 1577 01:19:07,122 --> 01:19:09,875 and that SoftBank had already committed so much money, 1578 01:19:09,875 --> 01:19:12,878 they were already in, that they were kind of stuck. 1579 01:19:12,878 --> 01:19:14,796 And so the way Adam was running the company, 1580 01:19:14,796 --> 01:19:16,757 it was the assumption that 1581 01:19:16,757 --> 01:19:20,844 he had an infinite supply of billions to keep growing. 1582 01:19:20,844 --> 01:19:23,764 - Adam had been convinced earlier in the month 1583 01:19:23,764 --> 01:19:25,432 that this was gonna happen 1584 01:19:25,432 --> 01:19:28,435 and the people doing the deal were essentially done. 1585 01:19:28,435 --> 01:19:32,022 It was pencils down on sort of December 24 at WeWork. 1586 01:19:32,022 --> 01:19:33,607 Everyone expected it was gonna happen. 1587 01:19:34,399 --> 01:19:37,528 [phone buzzing] 1588 01:19:38,737 --> 01:19:40,656 MAUREEN: And then Adam 1589 01:19:40,656 --> 01:19:43,325 gets a call from Masa on Christmas Eve, 1590 01:19:43,325 --> 01:19:47,329 basically telling him, "Sorry, I can't go through with it. 1591 01:19:47,329 --> 01:19:50,374 "The market's working against me. Investors don't like it. 1592 01:19:50,374 --> 01:19:52,000 We just can't make it work right now." 1593 01:19:53,836 --> 01:19:56,213 RANDALL: When Masa decides he's not gonna put that money in, 1594 01:19:56,213 --> 01:20:00,467 Adam Neumann had a problem, because he had nowhere else to go. 1595 01:20:00,467 --> 01:20:02,803 Nobody else is gonna write him a check because 1596 01:20:02,803 --> 01:20:04,638 everyone knows SoftBank has the money. 1597 01:20:04,638 --> 01:20:07,766 So if SoftBank's not putting in more money, there must be a problem. 1598 01:20:10,644 --> 01:20:12,729 MAUREEN: Like it or not, 1599 01:20:12,729 --> 01:20:16,191 they're going to need more money somehow. 1600 01:20:16,191 --> 01:20:18,277 ♪ suspenseful music playing ♪ 1601 01:20:18,277 --> 01:20:21,655 [surf and wind roaring] 1602 01:20:21,655 --> 01:20:23,115 - It's really funny, I've been looking, 1603 01:20:23,115 --> 01:20:25,450 I've been watching the press around this last fundraise 1604 01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:27,077 and I actually think it's hilarious 1605 01:20:27,077 --> 01:20:29,788 because for some reason there was an expectation 1606 01:20:29,788 --> 01:20:33,667 that there was gonna be like a $20 billion or $16 billion raise. 1607 01:20:33,667 --> 01:20:36,044 It's a $6 billion raise. 1608 01:20:36,044 --> 01:20:40,048 It's the second largest venture capital investment of all time. 1609 01:20:40,048 --> 01:20:43,302 I'm an investor in Uber so I know what the first largest one was. 1610 01:20:43,302 --> 01:20:45,095 It's the second largest of all time. 1611 01:20:45,095 --> 01:20:47,055 It's SoftBank coming into this company. 1612 01:20:47,055 --> 01:20:49,516 Now they have $10 billion invested in this company. 1613 01:20:49,516 --> 01:20:51,643 So the notion that anybody is projecting 1614 01:20:51,643 --> 01:20:53,937 that they don't have confidence in the company I think is crazy. 1615 01:20:53,937 --> 01:20:55,397 I have confidence in the company. 1616 01:20:55,397 --> 01:20:58,400 - First of all, thank you, Ashton, it's amazing. 1617 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,152 ELIOT BROWN: After the collapse of the deal, 1618 01:21:00,152 --> 01:21:03,822 they're out there trying to put this really good face on. 1619 01:21:03,822 --> 01:21:06,575 He brings along Ashton Kutcher as this pump-up guy. 1620 01:21:06,575 --> 01:21:09,953 And it was really disingenuous. 1621 01:21:09,953 --> 01:21:13,332 - It's above and beyond what we need to fund the company for the next... 1622 01:21:13,332 --> 01:21:14,833 HOST: Okay. - ...four to five years. 1623 01:21:14,833 --> 01:21:18,587 ELIOT: Adam was saying things that were completely false. 1624 01:21:18,587 --> 01:21:21,590 WeWork was currently a bonfire of cash 1625 01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:24,676 and was gonna run out of money by the end of the year. 1626 01:21:24,676 --> 01:21:26,762 - The interesting thing about the investment, 1627 01:21:26,762 --> 01:21:28,847 there's a lot of rumors and there's what happened. 1628 01:21:28,847 --> 01:21:31,475 The most important thing is, when Masa called me and said, 1629 01:21:31,475 --> 01:21:33,143 "You know, this has happened and that happened 1630 01:21:33,143 --> 01:21:34,520 and the world is changing," 1631 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,648 the first thing he said is, "I'm calling you to share this as a partner. 1632 01:21:37,648 --> 01:21:39,775 And I just wanted to come up with a solution together." 1633 01:21:39,775 --> 01:21:41,985 - Because that deal didn't happen, does that change your thoughts 1634 01:21:41,985 --> 01:21:43,737 on an IPO timeline? 1635 01:21:43,737 --> 01:21:46,031 - Just so we-- we keep saying "did not happen," just so we're clear. 1636 01:21:46,031 --> 01:21:47,241 We never signed the deal. 1637 01:21:47,241 --> 01:21:49,034 It's not that we signed the deal and something happened. 1638 01:21:49,034 --> 01:21:51,828 We were trying to figure out the best way to do it. 1639 01:21:51,828 --> 01:21:54,998 But, no, regarding an IPO, it's always been an option. 1640 01:21:54,998 --> 01:21:57,417 We are ready for an IPO. 1641 01:21:57,417 --> 01:22:01,421 - You are ready? - WeWork is always ready for an IPO. 1642 01:22:01,421 --> 01:22:03,173 We will choose the right time to do it 1643 01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:04,967 when it's correct for the mission of the company. 1644 01:22:04,967 --> 01:22:06,969 - What are you looking for? 1645 01:22:06,969 --> 01:22:09,221 - I want to elevate the world's consciousness. 1646 01:22:09,221 --> 01:22:11,473 - Okay, so when you do that, then you can go public? 1647 01:22:11,473 --> 01:22:12,724 - It's not one or the other. 1648 01:22:12,724 --> 01:22:14,852 When I feel that to achieve that mission, 1649 01:22:14,852 --> 01:22:17,938 going public will help it, that will be the day. 1650 01:22:21,775 --> 01:22:23,819 INTERVIEWER: Were you anticipating 1651 01:22:23,819 --> 01:22:26,071 WeWork's S1 when it came out? 1652 01:22:26,071 --> 01:22:29,074 - No. I remember I was on vacation, it was in August, 1653 01:22:29,074 --> 01:22:30,909 and I remember telling my family 1654 01:22:30,909 --> 01:22:33,078 when someone sent me a link to it, 1655 01:22:33,078 --> 01:22:35,080 and I started reading the first few pages, 1656 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,875 I said, "I apologize. I'm out for the weekend," 1657 01:22:37,875 --> 01:22:41,044 because this was just too good and I needed to read through this. 1658 01:22:41,044 --> 01:22:43,380 It felt more like a, uh... 1659 01:22:43,380 --> 01:22:45,924 a novel written by someone who was shrooming 1660 01:22:45,924 --> 01:22:47,467 than an S1. 1661 01:22:48,594 --> 01:22:50,679 RANDALL: An S1 is a form you have to fill out 1662 01:22:50,679 --> 01:22:52,556 that's a precursor to going public. 1663 01:22:53,599 --> 01:22:56,935 It's a first introduction to your company, to the world, 1664 01:22:56,935 --> 01:22:59,855 where you're representing that these are the facts. 1665 01:22:59,855 --> 01:23:03,650 But that means you've gotta come clean, and there are a lot of details in there, 1666 01:23:04,067 --> 01:23:07,362 and in WeWork's case, the devil was in the details. 1667 01:23:08,697 --> 01:23:10,908 - So the first red flag was on page one. 1668 01:23:10,908 --> 01:23:13,118 It says, "We dedicate this to the energy of We -- 1669 01:23:13,118 --> 01:23:16,163 greater than any one of us but inside each of us." 1670 01:23:16,163 --> 01:23:18,832 I mean, for God sakes, they're renting fucking desks. 1671 01:23:18,832 --> 01:23:21,877 ELIOT: I was actually on vacation in the middle of Austria, 1672 01:23:21,877 --> 01:23:23,754 hiking with some friends, 1673 01:23:23,754 --> 01:23:26,673 and then I get to a place where there's a little service. 1674 01:23:26,673 --> 01:23:28,175 [bird chirps, phone chimes] 1675 01:23:28,175 --> 01:23:30,677 I just start getting these texts and emails, 1676 01:23:30,677 --> 01:23:32,387 and it's like "WTF." 1677 01:23:32,387 --> 01:23:34,598 And like, "Oh, my God!" 1678 01:23:34,598 --> 01:23:36,517 And I was like, "I think I know what happened." 1679 01:23:38,268 --> 01:23:40,062 MAUREEN: Almost everyone you talked to 1680 01:23:40,062 --> 01:23:44,858 had a different item that horrified them. [laughs] 1681 01:23:44,858 --> 01:23:46,610 So like one by one, they would say, 1682 01:23:46,610 --> 01:23:49,696 "I cannot believe his wife is choosing his successor," 1683 01:23:49,696 --> 01:23:53,867 or, "So egregious that he would have these 20-1 voting shares." 1684 01:23:53,867 --> 01:23:57,829 Or, "I can't believe the company is paying him $6 million 1685 01:23:57,829 --> 01:24:02,543 for the trademark to the word 'we' in the company name." 1686 01:24:02,543 --> 01:24:04,670 DEREK: He was buying buildings, 1687 01:24:04,670 --> 01:24:07,548 and then asking WeWork 1688 01:24:07,548 --> 01:24:09,633 to lease those buildings from him. 1689 01:24:09,633 --> 01:24:13,053 And then he took $700 million out of this company 1690 01:24:13,053 --> 01:24:17,266 at the very time he was asking the public to put money in the company. 1691 01:24:17,266 --> 01:24:19,393 - With many of these unicorn IPOs, 1692 01:24:19,393 --> 01:24:22,646 the CO is mentioned anywhere between 12 and 40 times. 1693 01:24:22,646 --> 01:24:26,441 In the case of Adam Neumann, it was 170 times. 1694 01:24:26,441 --> 01:24:27,776 [computer key clicking] 1695 01:24:27,776 --> 01:24:29,987 If you tell a 30-something male 1696 01:24:29,987 --> 01:24:34,116 that he's Jesus Christ, he's inclined to believe you. 1697 01:24:34,116 --> 01:24:36,410 ELIOT: Rebekah is very involved 1698 01:24:36,410 --> 01:24:39,288 in the part of the document that people laughed at, 1699 01:24:39,288 --> 01:24:41,999 and they were spending a lot of time in the Hamptons. 1700 01:24:41,999 --> 01:24:45,669 And they had this sort of constant string of WeWork employees 1701 01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:49,089 who would get a seaplane or helicopter to go out to the Hamptons 1702 01:24:49,089 --> 01:24:51,800 just to meet with them on some IPO stuff. 1703 01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,927 You just keep reading it and be like, 1704 01:24:53,927 --> 01:24:56,972 "Oh, my God, did anyone pr-- like, look at this 1705 01:24:56,972 --> 01:24:59,308 and tell them what it was gonna look like?" 1706 01:24:59,308 --> 01:25:01,685 The reality is that, like, people had been telling Adam that for a while 1707 01:25:01,685 --> 01:25:03,770 but he didn't care; he thought that people would look past it 1708 01:25:03,770 --> 01:25:05,689 or he wanted to enrich himself 1709 01:25:05,689 --> 01:25:08,066 and thought that it wouldn't be a big deal. 1710 01:25:11,153 --> 01:25:14,281 Meanwhile, he was around WeWork less. 1711 01:25:14,281 --> 01:25:16,992 He went on a month-long birthday celebration 1712 01:25:16,992 --> 01:25:20,621 where he went to the Maldives to surf. 1713 01:25:20,621 --> 01:25:23,081 You know, I think generally he was seen 1714 01:25:23,081 --> 01:25:26,376 as more erratic and nervous and... 1715 01:25:26,376 --> 01:25:28,128 in hindsight, he probably had a view 1716 01:25:28,128 --> 01:25:30,255 that maybe this has gone too far. 1717 01:25:33,217 --> 01:25:36,845 Him going surfing was a way of avoiding reality... 1718 01:25:38,764 --> 01:25:41,767 and keeping the high life going as much as he could. 1719 01:25:44,770 --> 01:25:48,398 COMMENTATOR 1: This company has just been savaged after its S1 came out. 1720 01:25:48,398 --> 01:25:51,276 COMMENTATOR 2: The price has come down and down and down. 1721 01:25:51,276 --> 01:25:54,863 COMMENTATOR 3: $47 billion dropped down to 10 to 15. 1722 01:25:54,863 --> 01:25:56,573 COMMENTATOR 4: Every day now they're trying to come up 1723 01:25:56,573 --> 01:25:59,076 with something to salvage this IPO, and I don't know if they're gonna do it. 1724 01:26:00,369 --> 01:26:01,828 - We'll clean it up. I think we're great, 1725 01:26:01,828 --> 01:26:03,956 and I think we're preparing for the roadshow right now. 1726 01:26:03,956 --> 01:26:05,415 Just hope my hair is good. 1727 01:26:05,415 --> 01:26:07,918 WOMAN: Your hair looks great. - Okay. 1728 01:26:07,918 --> 01:26:09,753 This is harder than 20-foot waves. 1729 01:26:09,753 --> 01:26:11,588 MAN: [laughing] I get it. - You know why? 1730 01:26:11,588 --> 01:26:13,799 'Cause I control the 20-foot waves. 1731 01:26:13,799 --> 01:26:16,760 [laughter, woman responding indistinctly] 1732 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,263 I'll take a 20-foot wave... 1733 01:26:19,263 --> 01:26:21,515 every day for the next 10 days. 1734 01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,310 MAN: I'm scared of drowning just thinking about it. 1735 01:26:25,310 --> 01:26:26,603 - All right. 1736 01:26:28,522 --> 01:26:32,067 Real estate is going through a fundamental shift. 1737 01:26:32,067 --> 01:26:34,611 From a "fixed cost per seat" commodity... 1738 01:26:34,611 --> 01:26:36,154 MAUREEN: The world was kind of up in arms 1739 01:26:36,154 --> 01:26:40,659 about how egregious this company was. 1740 01:26:40,659 --> 01:26:43,287 But Adam had to go public anyway. 1741 01:26:43,287 --> 01:26:45,873 - ...have a 12-year headstart. 1742 01:26:45,873 --> 01:26:48,000 - There's a two-week period you start 1743 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,502 marketing your shares officially to investors. 1744 01:26:50,502 --> 01:26:52,880 It's called a roadshow. 1745 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,883 Kind of like a central part of the roadshow 1746 01:26:55,883 --> 01:26:58,010 is a video that goes along with it. 1747 01:26:58,010 --> 01:27:02,514 So, they had filmed portions of it already. 1748 01:27:02,514 --> 01:27:05,809 So theoretically he was just gonna do his part of it, 1749 01:27:05,809 --> 01:27:07,644 they can edit it in. 1750 01:27:07,644 --> 01:27:10,189 - Fixed cost commodity, fixed cost commodity. 1751 01:27:10,189 --> 01:27:11,440 Fixed cost commodity... 1752 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,650 ELIOT: Adam kept delaying, 1753 01:27:13,650 --> 01:27:17,779 and even literally would leave rooms full of people 1754 01:27:17,779 --> 01:27:20,282 waiting, set up for him to come. 1755 01:27:20,282 --> 01:27:24,703 They spent hundreds of thousand dollars on shoots that Adam didn't go to. 1756 01:27:27,956 --> 01:27:29,541 WOMAN: That one sounded great. 1757 01:27:29,541 --> 01:27:30,959 - Thank you. 1758 01:27:30,959 --> 01:27:33,295 MAUREEN: It seems kind of, like, it's procrastination, 1759 01:27:33,295 --> 01:27:35,339 but, you know, was there something deeper, 1760 01:27:35,339 --> 01:27:38,634 I don't know, of why you don't show up to film this thing? 1761 01:27:40,177 --> 01:27:45,098 Finally they start filming him, but that day he was just off. 1762 01:27:45,098 --> 01:27:46,517 - Just a second. 1763 01:27:46,517 --> 01:27:48,936 Zack, you need the sentences to be full for me. 1764 01:27:48,936 --> 01:27:50,854 So whenever you have a dead space like this, 1765 01:27:50,854 --> 01:27:52,523 put that up there. 1766 01:27:52,523 --> 01:27:55,150 - In general, he's an incredible speaker if you see him, 1767 01:27:55,150 --> 01:27:56,652 but he can't really read off a teleprompter. 1768 01:27:56,652 --> 01:27:58,237 He struggles with that. 1769 01:27:58,237 --> 01:28:00,697 - Yeah, the reason it's a little hard for me is, 1770 01:28:00,697 --> 01:28:03,075 I'm not a guy who reads from a script, that's the thing. 1771 01:28:03,075 --> 01:28:05,494 To do it totally free, though, I need to, I can't... 1772 01:28:05,494 --> 01:28:08,747 I'm doing word-for-word so I'm gonna need to loosen it up a little bit. 1773 01:28:08,747 --> 01:28:10,624 MAUREEN: And I think as the day wore on, 1774 01:28:10,624 --> 01:28:13,377 it just went on and on and on and on. 1775 01:28:13,377 --> 01:28:15,212 And he seemed more frazzled 1776 01:28:15,212 --> 01:28:17,714 and wasn't getting through it and wasn't making sense. 1777 01:28:17,714 --> 01:28:19,299 - Based on our savor... 1778 01:28:19,299 --> 01:28:22,302 Agh! Ugh! Let's go. 1779 01:28:22,302 --> 01:28:25,430 MAUREEN: It became somewhat like a party. 1780 01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:27,599 It just almost like devolved the whole night. 1781 01:28:27,599 --> 01:28:31,270 - The employees of all companies all need the same thing. 1782 01:28:31,270 --> 01:28:33,730 Wellness, food. 1783 01:28:33,730 --> 01:28:37,276 MAUREEN: He just didn't do a good job by everyone there. 1784 01:28:37,276 --> 01:28:40,404 And I think a lot of people who were there were quite stressed. 1785 01:28:40,404 --> 01:28:42,865 They're like, "This has to get done. We're supposed to do this tomorrow." 1786 01:28:43,949 --> 01:28:47,828 It's almost like, this is your worst nightmare. 1787 01:28:47,828 --> 01:28:50,622 - This is who I am. This is what I do. 1788 01:28:50,622 --> 01:28:53,917 I tackle something until it's right. 1789 01:28:53,917 --> 01:28:55,669 I will not stop. 1790 01:28:58,422 --> 01:29:00,632 This is what no one's understanding right now, 1791 01:29:00,632 --> 01:29:03,343 but it's okay because we'll make sure they learn. 1792 01:29:06,180 --> 01:29:08,223 ELIOT: And then the next morning, 1793 01:29:08,223 --> 01:29:11,268 they decide... "No, it's just not gonna happen. 1794 01:29:11,268 --> 01:29:13,020 We need to call it off." 1795 01:29:17,441 --> 01:29:19,776 MAUREEN: Adam came in to WeWork's office. 1796 01:29:19,776 --> 01:29:22,613 He comes in, he's more dressed up than usual. 1797 01:29:22,613 --> 01:29:25,282 And gives an all-hands talk. 1798 01:29:25,282 --> 01:29:29,119 And there he basically told all the staff, 1799 01:29:29,119 --> 01:29:30,579 "This doesn't mean the IPO's off. 1800 01:29:30,579 --> 01:29:33,457 "Like, we're gonna come back and this is gonna be amazing 1801 01:29:33,457 --> 01:29:37,002 and, um, we will do an IPO later this year." 1802 01:29:37,002 --> 01:29:40,380 But like everything behind the scenes was beginning to happen 1803 01:29:40,380 --> 01:29:42,424 to start to oust him. 1804 01:29:45,385 --> 01:29:47,721 ELIOT: At the time, it was less known 1805 01:29:47,721 --> 01:29:51,350 that Adam was this totally erratic CEO 1806 01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:53,268 that had sort of messianic statements 1807 01:29:53,268 --> 01:29:56,605 and was doing things in a way that a lot of people would call crazy. 1808 01:29:56,605 --> 01:30:01,276 Uh, and so we basically laid that out in a story. 1809 01:30:02,611 --> 01:30:05,489 The signature anecdote to the thing that probably got the most attention 1810 01:30:05,489 --> 01:30:10,244 was about how he took a plane trip with friends to Israel, 1811 01:30:10,244 --> 01:30:11,995 and they were smoking pot on the plane, 1812 01:30:11,995 --> 01:30:15,374 and then in Israel they didn't finish all the pot 1813 01:30:15,374 --> 01:30:17,209 and so they stuffed some in a cereal box. 1814 01:30:18,293 --> 01:30:21,255 The crew on the plane finds it and is sort of incensed. 1815 01:30:22,923 --> 01:30:24,550 And so they recall the plane. 1816 01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:27,427 Uh, and so then Adam has to find his own way back from Israel. 1817 01:30:30,222 --> 01:30:32,015 SCOTT: When you can land 1818 01:30:32,015 --> 01:30:34,893 two rockets concurrently on barges and you smoke pot, 1819 01:30:34,893 --> 01:30:38,105 you're seen as quirky and likable. 1820 01:30:38,105 --> 01:30:41,108 When you don't go public and your investors lose money, 1821 01:30:41,108 --> 01:30:45,279 all of a sudden they decide that smoking pot is a criminal activity. 1822 01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:48,073 MAUREEN: Once Eliot's article came out, 1823 01:30:48,073 --> 01:30:50,117 he became pretty much untouchable on Wall Street. 1824 01:30:51,577 --> 01:30:53,871 And so, he made the decision to step down 1825 01:30:53,871 --> 01:30:56,790 at, like, the urging of a lot of different people. 1826 01:30:59,042 --> 01:31:02,004 - Adam Neumann is expected to step down as... 1827 01:31:02,004 --> 01:31:04,506 NEWS ANCHOR: The company went from a $47 billion valuation 1828 01:31:04,506 --> 01:31:06,341 to near bankruptcy in just six weeks. 1829 01:31:06,341 --> 01:31:08,302 - The future of the company very uncertain at this point. 1830 01:31:08,302 --> 01:31:14,016 AUGUST: When I first heard about WeWork's financial collapse, 1831 01:31:14,016 --> 01:31:18,562 I honestly did feel really, really sad 1832 01:31:18,562 --> 01:31:20,147 for Adam. 1833 01:31:21,773 --> 01:31:26,153 Because it felt like he believed in what he was doing 1834 01:31:26,153 --> 01:31:29,615 with every fiber of his being. 1835 01:31:29,615 --> 01:31:31,950 NEWS ANCHOR: WeWork now is suddenly in decline, 1836 01:31:31,950 --> 01:31:35,120 the office-sharing company's new financial lifeline 1837 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:37,789 giving its controversial co-founder Adam Neumann 1838 01:31:37,789 --> 01:31:40,792 a $1.7 billion payout to step down 1839 01:31:40,792 --> 01:31:44,588 while the troubled company's reportedly planning massive layoffs. 1840 01:31:46,340 --> 01:31:50,093 AUGUST: When I started to learn a little bit more about it, 1841 01:31:50,093 --> 01:31:52,137 um... 1842 01:31:52,137 --> 01:31:54,723 that sadness 1843 01:31:54,723 --> 01:31:57,476 turned to anger pretty quickly. 1844 01:31:57,476 --> 01:31:59,728 Because... 1845 01:31:59,728 --> 01:32:04,441 now all of a sudden, it felt like this person 1846 01:32:04,441 --> 01:32:07,319 lied to me, lied to a bunch of people, 1847 01:32:07,319 --> 01:32:10,531 about this beautiful way of working 1848 01:32:10,531 --> 01:32:12,574 and this beautiful way of living. 1849 01:32:12,574 --> 01:32:15,953 I felt angry at him 1850 01:32:15,953 --> 01:32:18,914 for doing that, but also felt angry at me 1851 01:32:18,914 --> 01:32:20,832 for, like, buying the bullshit. 1852 01:32:22,835 --> 01:32:28,549 And when they started laying people off, the anger switched to rage. 1853 01:32:29,633 --> 01:32:32,427 DON: It seemed like WeThis, WeGrow, WeLive, WeWork. 1854 01:32:32,427 --> 01:32:33,971 We-we-we-we-we. 1855 01:32:33,971 --> 01:32:35,973 You know, it's gotta be we, not me. 1856 01:32:35,973 --> 01:32:39,852 It was we for everybody, except for Adam. 1857 01:32:39,852 --> 01:32:44,898 MAUREEN: He got a golden parachute worth $1.7 billion. 1858 01:32:44,898 --> 01:32:48,819 The idea that there would be all this money given to Adam 1859 01:32:48,819 --> 01:32:51,154 was demoralizing. 1860 01:32:51,154 --> 01:32:53,448 DON: Y ou know, that kind of sticks in your craw a little bit, 1861 01:32:53,448 --> 01:32:56,451 particularly when you've been preached at about, "It's all about we." 1862 01:32:56,451 --> 01:32:59,371 If that's your deal and you're sitting on all this money 1863 01:32:59,371 --> 01:33:01,915 and you really believe in what you were saying the whole time, 1864 01:33:01,915 --> 01:33:05,127 you should give some of the money back to help the employees who got screwed. 1865 01:33:07,838 --> 01:33:10,507 MARGARITA: I think what's frustrating about all of that 1866 01:33:10,507 --> 01:33:14,678 is that, when you focus the story on Adam, 1867 01:33:14,678 --> 01:33:18,348 you miss how many people worked really, really hard 1868 01:33:18,348 --> 01:33:21,393 to bring this impossible vision to life, 1869 01:33:21,393 --> 01:33:23,812 who got nothing. 1870 01:33:23,812 --> 01:33:25,772 They cared about WeWork a lot. 1871 01:33:25,772 --> 01:33:27,524 They were invested in its success. 1872 01:33:27,524 --> 01:33:30,527 They were invested in the community. 1873 01:33:30,527 --> 01:33:33,947 And they were hurt financially. 1874 01:33:33,947 --> 01:33:35,782 Reputationally. 1875 01:33:35,782 --> 01:33:40,204 Suddenly this company that they spent years on 1876 01:33:40,204 --> 01:33:42,206 is a laughingstock. 1877 01:33:45,042 --> 01:33:48,170 - My mind was warped in such a way at WeWork 1878 01:33:48,170 --> 01:33:52,466 that I felt, when I left, I had to unwarp it. 1879 01:33:54,218 --> 01:33:55,844 They don't care about you. 1880 01:33:55,844 --> 01:33:59,056 You know, like that really, really messed with me, 1881 01:33:59,056 --> 01:34:01,850 because I thought, "Who is telling me the truth?" 1882 01:34:03,936 --> 01:34:08,482 I have done a lot of therapy to like navigate through 1883 01:34:08,482 --> 01:34:09,900 what happened there. 1884 01:34:09,900 --> 01:34:12,736 Why was I so devastated when it ended? 1885 01:34:13,570 --> 01:34:18,033 Why did it feel like, not that I lost a job, 1886 01:34:18,033 --> 01:34:19,785 but like I lost my purpose? 1887 01:34:21,537 --> 01:34:24,998 Some mind trick has been played on a lot of us. 1888 01:34:28,293 --> 01:34:32,214 You know, it just... [crying] ...I think of myself as this... 1889 01:34:33,841 --> 01:34:38,011 younger girl, and I wanna say to her, 1890 01:34:38,011 --> 01:34:40,180 "You didn't do anything wrong." 1891 01:34:40,180 --> 01:34:42,182 Like, "You're valuable 1892 01:34:42,182 --> 01:34:45,102 and that company is not your worth." 1893 01:34:45,102 --> 01:34:49,398 But because I felt like, how am I gonna change the world now? 1894 01:34:49,398 --> 01:34:51,441 Like, I needed that. 1895 01:34:55,654 --> 01:34:59,241 AUGUST: When I look back on my time spent 1896 01:34:59,241 --> 01:35:02,327 in the We community... 1897 01:35:02,327 --> 01:35:05,581 I see all the friends that I made. 1898 01:35:05,581 --> 01:35:08,292 Um, all the relationships that I still have. 1899 01:35:10,586 --> 01:35:14,089 All the people that I deeply care about. 1900 01:35:14,089 --> 01:35:18,719 The people that I wouldn't have met outside of the We community. 1901 01:35:18,719 --> 01:35:22,598 Those are the people that I choose to remember. 1902 01:35:22,598 --> 01:35:24,850 Not... 1903 01:35:24,850 --> 01:35:26,518 the asshole that wrecked it. 1904 01:35:33,817 --> 01:35:36,278 ALEX: You know, people will see in Adam Neumann 1905 01:35:36,278 --> 01:35:37,905 what they wanna see. 1906 01:35:37,905 --> 01:35:41,533 That may not be the most fulfilling answer for a lot of people, 1907 01:35:41,533 --> 01:35:45,662 but I do think that he can represent a lot more 1908 01:35:45,662 --> 01:35:47,289 than what he really is. 1909 01:35:47,289 --> 01:35:49,416 And I think that, you know, 1910 01:35:49,416 --> 01:35:52,711 the reason that maybe he resonates with people 1911 01:35:52,711 --> 01:35:56,215 is because it felt like he was close. 1912 01:35:59,009 --> 01:36:02,930 Clearly there was something about WeWork and something about Adam 1913 01:36:02,930 --> 01:36:07,267 where maybe he could have pulled it off. 1914 01:36:09,394 --> 01:36:11,897 It could have come together into something beautiful. 1915 01:36:14,525 --> 01:36:18,028 But , unfortunately he set an example 1916 01:36:18,028 --> 01:36:21,365 which maybe is harmful for other entrepreneurs to follow, 1917 01:36:21,365 --> 01:36:25,494 or he's embodied the American dream in a way that worries us 1918 01:36:25,494 --> 01:36:28,956 because it was so attractive and it was so intoxicating 1919 01:36:28,956 --> 01:36:31,416 and yet had this disastrous result, 1920 01:36:31,416 --> 01:36:34,002 that that bothers us more than if he had just been 1921 01:36:34,002 --> 01:36:36,338 a failure with WeWork. 1922 01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,184 MEGAN: There's a lot of really special elements about WeWork 1923 01:36:49,184 --> 01:36:50,352 that... 1924 01:36:52,062 --> 01:36:54,523 I hope continue to last. 1925 01:36:54,523 --> 01:36:57,359 Like especially as we sit in this time of COVID 1926 01:36:57,359 --> 01:37:00,237 and we're, you know, people are working from home, 1927 01:37:00,237 --> 01:37:04,157 and, you know, I, myself, have been inside, 1928 01:37:04,157 --> 01:37:07,661 mostly inside for, you know, months and months. 1929 01:37:07,661 --> 01:37:11,206 And it is on the days that I get to interact with other people 1930 01:37:11,206 --> 01:37:14,793 that I come home and I'm like, "Wow, that was a fulfilling day." 1931 01:37:20,465 --> 01:37:23,886 Community, I think, has been... 1932 01:37:23,886 --> 01:37:26,263 taken piece by piece from our world 1933 01:37:26,263 --> 01:37:28,682 for quite a while, like very slowly, 1934 01:37:28,682 --> 01:37:34,271 and then now here we are sitting literally in... in a pandemic 1935 01:37:34,271 --> 01:37:40,194 of lack of interaction and I would give anything to like... 1936 01:37:42,029 --> 01:37:46,116 be consumed with people again. 1937 01:37:52,539 --> 01:37:56,084 The vision of us working together, 1938 01:37:56,084 --> 01:37:59,755 to be better together, is lacking today. 1939 01:38:09,681 --> 01:38:11,433 I think we need that. 1940 01:38:11,433 --> 01:38:16,104 We go back in time to the Greek town squares. 1941 01:38:16,104 --> 01:38:17,648 It has existed forever. 1942 01:38:17,648 --> 01:38:20,125 Community has existed forever. 1943 01:38:20,125 --> 01:38:24,880 Because it's crucial to our survival as human beings. 1944 01:38:31,303 --> 01:38:34,736 What are we if we don't have each other? 1945 01:38:34,736 --> 01:38:37,268 ♪ 1946 01:39:00,291 --> 01:39:02,293 [crowd noises in distance] 1947 01:39:16,974 --> 01:39:19,268 ♪ string orchestra playing contemplative classical music ♪