1 00:00:00,424 --> 00:00:02,474 - ANDREW: It's funny, I had this conversation with Elton 2 00:00:02,551 --> 00:00:05,681 when I got to work with him, 'cause I asked him, like, 3 00:00:05,763 --> 00:00:08,183 "How do you write your piano parts 4 00:00:08,265 --> 00:00:10,555 to, like, this lyric page that you're staring at?" 5 00:00:10,642 --> 00:00:15,652 And he was, like, "It's ordained. It just comes from somewhere else. 6 00:00:15,731 --> 00:00:16,571 It's given to me." 7 00:00:16,648 --> 00:00:18,528 And... I was, I got chills on my body, 8 00:00:18,609 --> 00:00:21,069 because I have been saying that my whole life. 9 00:00:21,152 --> 00:00:22,992 I'm having conversations with him sitting with the guitar, 10 00:00:23,071 --> 00:00:24,701 and suddenly this little thing comes out, 11 00:00:24,782 --> 00:00:27,332 and then... a month later it's on the radio 12 00:00:27,409 --> 00:00:28,539 and people love it and it's a hit. 13 00:00:28,619 --> 00:00:30,199 And I don't know where it's coming from. 14 00:00:32,456 --> 00:00:33,706 I'm sitting there with Ozzy, 15 00:00:33,791 --> 00:00:38,421 and one of the first songs we, we did was this kind of piano ballad song. 16 00:00:38,796 --> 00:00:43,966 This illustrious man that's lived... so many lives over, 17 00:00:44,050 --> 00:00:45,720 should have been dead such a long time ago. 18 00:00:45,803 --> 00:00:49,813 If he ever does, he's not gonna go out easy. 19 00:00:49,890 --> 00:00:52,850 He's gonna go out like Tony... Montana. 20 00:00:52,935 --> 00:00:57,105 And so I came up with the line, "I don't want to die an ordinary man." 21 00:00:58,064 --> 00:01:01,654 And I swear I am not making any of this up. 22 00:01:02,152 --> 00:01:04,992 He comes over the next day, and he handed me a lyric sheet, 23 00:01:05,071 --> 00:01:07,831 the first line that said on the lyric sheet was... 24 00:01:09,451 --> 00:01:11,451 "I'm just an ordinary man." 25 00:01:11,536 --> 00:01:14,406 He came up with this concept, "ordinary man" 26 00:01:14,539 --> 00:01:17,879 and I came up with this concept, "I don't want to die an ordinary man" 27 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:19,290 on the same night. 28 00:01:19,378 --> 00:01:21,588 So, he liked the concept. 29 00:01:23,423 --> 00:01:24,683 Ozzy... Osbourne. 30 00:01:49,324 --> 00:01:53,704 - He went to the studio having no idea who any of the people in that room were. 31 00:01:53,787 --> 00:01:56,367 A connection and an instant trust was built. 32 00:01:56,456 --> 00:01:59,746 So, I called Andrew and I said, "Will you do an album with my dad?" 33 00:01:59,835 --> 00:02:01,455 And he said, "No." 34 00:02:01,545 --> 00:02:03,625 - I didn't know if I could do it not because I didn't want to do it, 35 00:02:03,714 --> 00:02:05,384 because I didn't think I was worthy of doing it. 36 00:02:05,465 --> 00:02:10,635 Ozzy is the most character in a voice I've ever heard. 37 00:02:11,304 --> 00:02:13,144 When he sings, you know it's him. 38 00:02:13,223 --> 00:02:16,353 The most legendary rock singer of all time. 39 00:02:33,368 --> 00:02:35,328 - I don't know how that little... does it. 40 00:02:35,412 --> 00:02:39,002 He... is one of the great producers of today. 41 00:02:39,083 --> 00:02:40,923 He's an unbelievable writer. 42 00:02:46,132 --> 00:02:47,592 - Um, I hate doing that. 43 00:02:47,674 --> 00:02:52,974 - Our first cut was "Let Me Love You," and then we did "Wolves" for Selena Gomez. 44 00:02:53,055 --> 00:02:55,595 "It Ain't Me," "SeƱorita," 5 Seconds of Summer, 45 00:02:55,682 --> 00:02:57,312 The Chainsmokers, Zac Brown Band. 46 00:02:57,392 --> 00:03:00,852 - He's one of these little... that's just good at everything. 47 00:03:00,938 --> 00:03:03,358 He's probably got a... 10-inch dick. 48 00:03:05,067 --> 00:03:08,987 - I think Andrew was very used to working with pop music people. 49 00:03:09,071 --> 00:03:12,161 I love pop music and I'm not putting it down, 50 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,200 but what you're good at isn't always what you love. 51 00:03:14,743 --> 00:03:17,163 And I think that Andrew loves rock music. 52 00:03:17,245 --> 00:03:20,745 - ANDREW: My dad always played me music growing up. 53 00:03:20,833 --> 00:03:22,633 He played me The Beatles, he played me The Who, 54 00:03:22,709 --> 00:03:24,919 he played me Zeppelin, and he played my Black Sabbath. 55 00:03:25,004 --> 00:03:29,474 And I was scared the first time I heard Sabbath, it's evil-sounding stuff. 56 00:03:29,549 --> 00:03:33,599 - You know, if, if you've love something from a child... musically, 57 00:03:33,679 --> 00:03:36,429 and then you get to work with that person, 58 00:03:36,515 --> 00:03:39,385 it's just like the biggest rush ever. 59 00:03:42,312 --> 00:03:45,522 - ANDREW: When I, when I look down at my hands, I see Ozzy... 60 00:03:47,651 --> 00:03:49,071 Paul McCartney, "Blackbird," 61 00:03:50,154 --> 00:03:52,164 David Bowie, Prince. 62 00:03:52,238 --> 00:03:54,948 So, my guitar hand, my right hand. 63 00:03:55,034 --> 00:03:56,794 And then Bowie again, the lightning bolt, 64 00:03:57,661 --> 00:03:59,541 George Harrison, when I play slide. 65 00:04:00,998 --> 00:04:03,288 And New York, which is my baby, my home. 66 00:04:03,375 --> 00:04:05,875 - SHARON: This little punk kid, shaved... 67 00:04:05,961 --> 00:04:09,551 Silly hairdo, comes in, and I'm like, "Oh, here we go." 68 00:04:09,631 --> 00:04:14,391 And I'm thinking it's gonna be, like, he's gonna come with all this pop stuff. 69 00:04:14,928 --> 00:04:16,758 - ANDREW: I love pop music, I love making it. 70 00:04:16,847 --> 00:04:19,267 But I'm, I'm a rocker, it's what I love. 71 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:22,309 My first call was Chad from Chili Peppers. 72 00:04:24,730 --> 00:04:28,480 I was like, "They just asked me to make an Ozzy album." 73 00:04:28,567 --> 00:04:30,487 He was, like, "Why don't we do it? Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it." 74 00:04:30,569 --> 00:04:32,239 I was like, "All right. Who should we have play bass?" 75 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,200 So, I think about it in my head, of my favorite rock bass players 76 00:04:35,281 --> 00:04:37,581 that would bring something that I would want to work with. 77 00:04:37,659 --> 00:04:39,869 And so I called Duff up, who's a friend as well. 78 00:04:41,287 --> 00:04:43,367 I said, "You know, they asked me to make this Ozzy album, Chad wants to do it." 79 00:04:43,456 --> 00:04:46,286 "We're doing it. When should we...?" They were, they were both so... 80 00:04:46,376 --> 00:04:48,416 They gave me the confidence, both those guys. 81 00:04:48,503 --> 00:04:52,133 This all does not feel real to me. I mean, even this, I'm like... 82 00:04:52,216 --> 00:04:56,466 trying to talk to you, but I see plaques for my favorite Black Sabbath albums. 83 00:04:56,553 --> 00:05:00,023 I feel like this is some dream that I am going to get woken up from. 84 00:05:03,769 --> 00:05:07,859 So, the "cry for help" on the last take, use everything else from this take. 85 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:11,110 Ozzy, you're... killing it. This one's good. 86 00:05:12,485 --> 00:05:14,145 When you're working with someone... 87 00:05:15,239 --> 00:05:19,489 and you're writing with an artist, artist to artist, creative to creative, 88 00:05:19,576 --> 00:05:22,446 you open up on such a vulnerable level. 89 00:05:22,537 --> 00:05:24,917 And so, we're having this conversation, 90 00:05:24,998 --> 00:05:28,918 and... it just comes out, "I don't wanna die an ordinary man." 91 00:05:29,003 --> 00:05:32,463 That line, so what's that about? "Ozzy, what does that mean to you?" 92 00:05:32,547 --> 00:05:36,887 "It means that I know I'm coming towards the end. 93 00:05:36,969 --> 00:05:40,309 And I'm looking back on my life, looking back on my family. 94 00:05:42,683 --> 00:05:45,143 And I'm, I'm gonna talk about it, and I'm gonna be vulnerable. 95 00:05:45,227 --> 00:05:48,647 I'm gonna address the fact that this is not forever. 96 00:05:49,606 --> 00:05:50,686 But the music's forever. 97 00:05:58,907 --> 00:06:00,697 - ANDREW: It starts with me sitting down 98 00:06:00,784 --> 00:06:03,044 with my engineer Paul, who's at the computer, 99 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,370 who's sitting on the couch, and Chad's on the drums, 100 00:06:06,456 --> 00:06:08,576 Duff's on the bass, I'm on the guitar. 101 00:06:08,667 --> 00:06:11,917 We're sitting together and we're making a progression of chords, 102 00:06:12,213 --> 00:06:15,093 a body of music, something that feels like it could be a verse. 103 00:06:15,174 --> 00:06:19,264 Then from there, me, and the artist, in this case Ozzy... 104 00:06:19,345 --> 00:06:21,845 - I can't do it on my home. I don't play an instrument. 105 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:24,180 - ANDREW: ...and whoever else I'm co-writing with, 106 00:06:24,266 --> 00:06:27,436 in this case, Ali Tamposi, get together. 107 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:29,979 - And then it's just a melody fest. 108 00:06:30,064 --> 00:06:32,524 And then we'll start talking concepts. 109 00:06:32,607 --> 00:06:35,357 - ANDREW: Then we sit and we write lyrics 110 00:06:35,443 --> 00:06:38,663 that sound like what would fit into those melodies, 111 00:06:38,739 --> 00:06:40,819 and it's may the best man win. 112 00:06:40,908 --> 00:06:42,658 You know, everyone's saying, "This line," 113 00:06:42,743 --> 00:06:44,333 "No, this line," "No, this line," "No, this line," or "That's great." 114 00:06:44,411 --> 00:06:48,291 And obviously the artist is the ultimate judge, Ozzy would be, 115 00:06:48,374 --> 00:06:50,214 "I love that. That line's great." 116 00:06:50,292 --> 00:06:52,422 Or he would say something, and we'd be, like, "We love it!" 117 00:06:52,502 --> 00:06:55,212 Then from there the vocal is recorded and polished. 118 00:06:55,297 --> 00:06:56,717 Then we add all the finishing touches, 119 00:06:56,798 --> 00:06:59,928 be it guitar part, keyboard parts, or reduction... 120 00:07:12,773 --> 00:07:17,993 - There are some days you just are able to tap into that channel 121 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:20,360 and it runs through you. 122 00:07:20,447 --> 00:07:22,237 When Ozzy and Andrew met, 123 00:07:22,324 --> 00:07:25,244 I think they saw a lot of themselves in each other. 124 00:07:32,500 --> 00:07:36,920 - I think it was at a time where both of them, Andrew and my Dad, 125 00:07:37,005 --> 00:07:39,755 were in a very transitional period in their lives. 126 00:07:39,841 --> 00:07:42,931 And my dad had weeks of being himself again. 127 00:07:43,011 --> 00:07:46,681 It was almost like oxygen to somebody who was suffocating. 128 00:07:59,736 --> 00:08:03,486 - You have to contribute your art and throw the paint at the canvas, 129 00:08:03,573 --> 00:08:05,283 and then you have to have those moments 130 00:08:05,367 --> 00:08:07,907 where you're, like, "OK, is this good enough? 131 00:08:07,995 --> 00:08:10,615 Will people like this? Is this what's right for the artist?" 132 00:08:10,705 --> 00:08:13,495 And my check point was always, 133 00:08:13,583 --> 00:08:18,093 "What would the 12-year-old die-hard rock fan that played guitar to the mirror 134 00:08:18,213 --> 00:08:19,383 say about this music?" 135 00:08:27,848 --> 00:08:31,098 And that boy would be very happy right now. 136 00:08:34,021 --> 00:08:34,861 - Yeah!