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John Wilson:
Hey, New York.
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Every time I throw
something out,
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It feels like I'm getting
away with something.
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On Tuesday and Friday
every week,
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all the evidence of
my shameful lifestyle
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is removed
without any question.
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And I never have to think
about it ever again.
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It's amazing to think
that it's this easy
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to get rid of something.
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But there's always
going to be some stuff
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that you're never quite
sure how to throw away.
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I have a big box
of used batteries
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that I keep
in my apartment.
(clears throat)
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They're, uh--
I think they're all dead,
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but I'm afraid to throw
them into the normal trash
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for reasons I don't
quite understand.
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I thought I was
the only one,
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but when I--
but when I talked
to my neighbors,
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it seems like they had
the same problem as me.
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-This is my bag for...
-(bag crinkling)
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things like that, I guess.
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Wilson:
What else is in there?
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I don't know what to
do with them, either.
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You're stuck with them,
and then they dry up,
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and you can't
use them at all.
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Wilson:
There seemed to be a lot
of mixed messaging
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about how to get rid
of stuff like this and,
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and that causes some people to
hold on to things indefinitely.
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And so if I just put
it out in the trash,
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I feel like I'm not
being a good citizen.
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I really do.
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Wilson:
Disposing of things
correctly can make you feel
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like you're doing
the Lord's work.
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So instead of holding onto this
stuff longer than you have to,
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stick with me,
and I'll show you
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how to get your life in order
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and finally figure out
the right way
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to get rid of
all your batteries.
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(clears throat)
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The first place
you should try is the
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hazardous waste drop-off
site that the city has set up
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right under
the Manhattan Bridge
on the Lower East Side.
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But when you get there,
it seems like
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it's temporarily closed,
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and they don't
give any indication
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as to when
it's going to reopen.
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So, you're gonna have to
figure something else out.
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♪ ♪
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Thankfully, when you're walking
around your neighborhood,
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you actually stumble across,
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uh, an electronic waste event,
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where you're supposed to
throw out stuff like this.
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But when you ask them
if they can, uh,
take your batteries,
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uh, you get some
disappointing news.
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-Wilson: You don't
take batteries?
-No.
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So, we used to have
a warehouse in Brooklyn,
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and then the landlord
raised the rent.
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And so now, if you look behind
you, we've got a truck there.
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Wilson:
So, where would I throw
out my batteries?
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Best Buy, Staples, Home Depot,
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Lowe's, or IKEA will take them.
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-Wilson: Oh, really?
-Yeah.
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Wilson:
So, take your batteries
down to the subway station
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and bring them all
the way to the place
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he was talking about.
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The first place,
uh, didn't, um...
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it didn't seem
open right now. So,
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get back on the subway
and take your batteries
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all the way to the next
place that he mentioned.
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But when you get in there,
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you have a tough time
finding the receptacle
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that he was talking about.
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And you have
an even harder time,
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uh, finding an employee.
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Excuse me, do you work here?
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-No.
-Wilson: Oh, sorry.
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-You don't work here,
do you?
-No, I don't.
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-Wilson: Okay.
It's the orange shirt.
-(laughs)
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And after searching
for a while,
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you start to wonder why
they make this so hard.
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♪ ♪
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If you're gonna be
buying batteries
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for the rest of your life,
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are you going to
have to come back
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to this godforsaken place
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every sing-- every time
your box fills up?
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And you wish you could
just get rid of these
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the same way that
you do everything else.
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But, for some reason,
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that's not an option.
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Even if you were to
recycle these things,
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you're not even sure if that
would make you feel better.
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You separate all
your cans and stuff
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from the normal garbage, but
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you read somewhere
that only 9% of plastic
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is actually recycled.
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And no matter how
environmentally conscious
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you think you're being,
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it feels like
it's just an illusion
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to ease your conscience.
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♪ ♪
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Maybe it's just
part of human nature
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to hope that something
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can take on another life
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and return in
a different form.
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One thing that we see
in reincarnation cases
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is we're basically
the same person
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from lifetime to lifetime.
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The soul projects a hologram,
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if you will,
into the developing fetus,
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which results in
the facial features
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being similar from
lifetime to lifetime.
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Uh... Mark Zuckerberg
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was an early data programmer
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for the US Census.
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Uh, Jay Leno is
the reincarnation of Moliere.
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Michael Jackson, at age 10,
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was recruited into
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this children's army
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and was killed.
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The resemblance
is very striking.
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You know, the mouth
and the chin are
pretty much the same.
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-Wilson: Is that you?
-Reincarnation Man: Yep.
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-A few years back. (laughs)
-Wilson: You're saying
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you were the second President
of the United States?
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Reincarnation Man:
Correct.
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I met a woman,
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and within six months,
we were married.
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And it turned out that
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she was my son
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in the Adams lifetime.
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Wilson:
Wait, your wife was your--
the reincarnation
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-of your, John Adams' son?
-Yes.
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Wilson:
Is that, is that incest?
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Well, it's not incest because...
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they're different lifetimes.
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-Wilson: Oh, okay.
-Yeah.
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Wilson:
When New Yorkers aren't sure
how to dispose of something,
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it usually ends up
on the sidewalk.
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They often place it
somewhere conspicuous
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in the hopes that
sanitation employees
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will remove it
because it's in the way.
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And law enforcement is
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absolutely powerless
to stop it.
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(inaudible)
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There's a safe that's
been on the sidewalk
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near my apartment
for a long time,
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and I have no idea
how it got there.
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Do you know what's up
with this safe?
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Oh, okay.
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It seems extremely
hard to move,
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and no matter how many
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of my favorite
combinations I try,
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I can't seem to get inside.
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City garbage cans are
also filled with objects
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that people aren't sure
how to throw out.
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But if you put
the wrong stuff in there,
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it can seriously damage
the people that collect it.
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-How you doing, man?
Morning.
-Morning.
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People throw out steak knives
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in garbage bags.
Needles.
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That's the worst part.
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You pick up a bag,
and when it swings back...
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There was stitches.
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I cut the inside of my leg,
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and I think somewhere else.
Three times,
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-I wind up having to
get stitches on my leg.
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Oh, look, look. Look! Here.
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-Wilson: What's that?
-Open it.
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-Wilson: Oh, shit.
-A guy in a garage
down the street
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had one of these explode on him,
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and he was in
the hospital for about...
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-What'd you say, about a month?
-Yeah.
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For about a month.
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-(whirring)
-(pop)
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There we go. Now,
if that was that tank,
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it's exploding on us.
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Know what
you're throwing out,
do your work.
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If you're not sure,
call 3-1-1.
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Wilson:
It seems like if you throw
out something you shouldn't,
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they have to call in a special
waste department to handle it.
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And if you're sloppy,
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it could even go on
your permanent record.
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Hazmat Worker:
Nine out of 10 times,
we will locate
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the individual
that deposited it,
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and if they're
found in violation,
we'll issue a violation.
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It could potentially
go criminal,
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-especially if someone's
severely injured.
-Wilson: Wow.
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Once they took the tank away,
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you got to talking
with them a bit more,
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and you asked if
you could come see
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how the Department
of Sanitation works.
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And they actually said yeah.
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Everyone's garbage is
brought back to this facility
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and dumped into a big,
stinky pit by the dump trucks.
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And they have photos
of dangerous objects
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that they'll show you.
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This is the remnants of
an oxygen tank that exploded.
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Shut down a two-block
radius in Manhattan.
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You can see
there's some syringes.
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You have some acid,
poison, arsenic.
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Just a simple photograph
of our offices.
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Wilson:
Then they let you go to the
recycling facility next door,
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where they have people
separating things by hand.
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And they take a second to
tell you how dangerous it is
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to have batteries mixed in
with the recycling.
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So, musical greeting cards,
for example, um,
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you don't think about it,
but there's a battery in there.
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And there is actually
a fire in New Jersey,
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there's a paper
recycling facility,
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and the entire facility
burned to the ground.
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So, here's an example
of a battery.
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This is an e-bike battery.
It came into our facility.
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We didn't actually
ask for this,
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but someone thought
they should be recycled.
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And it could create
a smoldering condition,
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and it's hugely dangerous.
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-We're good!
-Worker: Alright, no problem.
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Wilson:
Um...
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The tour was
really eye-opening,
and you didn't realize
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that such a gentle
household object
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could be responsible
for so much devastation.
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(dogs barking
"Happy Birthday")
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When you look on YouTube, you
see that there's actually a guy
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who's dedicated
his entire life
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to warning people
about stuff like this.
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This chainsaw may
unexpectedly start
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without pressing
the power switch
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when the extension cord adapter
is connected upside down.
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These pastries
may contain mold.
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If you bought the carrots, don't
consume them, but destroy them.
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These garments failed to meet
federal flammability standards
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for children's sleepwear,
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and they create a risk
for childhood burn injuries.
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Do not permit your child
to wear these nightgowns.
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Contact La Paloma
and arrange a refund.
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Wilson:
Nightgowns are flammable?
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Yep. Well, they're supposed
to be not be flammable.
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-Wilson: Oh, right, right.
-But, they are.
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Wilson:
Why do you think people
hold on to recalled products
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even if they know they've--
they're dangerous?
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Well, most people
collect any product
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because they think
it is a collector's item.
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That is, it's valuable.
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So, I imagine
if you had a bottle,
250
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a jar with something in it,
251
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like a screw or a bolt or a nut,
252
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that probably would be
an interesting collector's item.
253
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Wilson:
You never really thought
of it like that before.
254
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That something you
thought was defective
255
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could actually become
a collectible one day.
256
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♪ ♪
257
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Maybe if we just
take care of objects
258
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that nobody else wants,
259
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they might actually
end up in a museum.
260
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And there could
even be hidden value
261
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inside of your stuff
262
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if you could just learn
263
00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:18,177
how to crack the code.
264
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(dolly rattling)
265
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This is the Mattel
Cabbage Patch Snacktime Kid,
266
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and it was recalled
because it was...
267
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Instead of eating the snacks
that came in the box,
268
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it was actually eating
children's hair.
269
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-Wilson: What kind of
batteries does it take?
-Cabbage Patch Lady: "C."
270
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That's the problem
is that it doesn't stop
271
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after you give it the food.
272
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Wilson:
So, this could, like,
potentially scalp a, a child?
273
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(water running)
274
00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:53,079
Yeah. Yeah,
it, it probably could.
275
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Wilson:
How-how much is something
like this worth?
276
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Cabbage Patch Lady:
I think around $500 right now.
277
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-Wilson: Really? Wow.
-Cabbage Patch Lady: Yeah.
278
00:12:00,119 --> 00:12:02,154
(doll motor whirring)
279
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Wilson:
Whenever I'm bored,
I like to cruise around
280
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on the free section
of Craigslist.
281
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It's filled with items that
282
00:12:10,596 --> 00:12:12,765
people have decided
they don't want anymore,
283
00:12:12,832 --> 00:12:16,268
but they can't bring themselves
to throw away for some reason.
284
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A lot of these
objects would make
285
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the perfect piece of trash,
286
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but they still feel like
they could be of value
287
00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:24,343
to somebody else.
288
00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:26,212
You saw that someone
was actually trying
289
00:12:26,278 --> 00:12:28,514
to give away
some old batteries.
290
00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:31,484
They looked like they were
from the 1950s or something,
291
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and you thought maybe
292
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they could be worth
something one day.
293
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So, you go to their house
to, uh, meet up with them.
294
00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:41,427
So, wh-wh-why are you getting
rid of these batteries?
295
00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:44,263
My ex had them decorating
the top of shelves he built,
296
00:12:44,330 --> 00:12:47,566
which you can see
the remains of over there.
297
00:12:47,633 --> 00:12:50,302
I liked them. I liked him.
They reminded me of him.
298
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Wilson:
Is there anything
else that you,
299
00:12:52,204 --> 00:12:54,607
like, held on to from
your last relationship
300
00:12:54,673 --> 00:12:57,042
that's hard to get rid of?
301
00:12:57,109 --> 00:13:00,412
Yeah, I still got
my wedding rings. (laughs)
302
00:13:00,479 --> 00:13:01,881
-Wilson: Oh, really?
-Yeah.
303
00:13:01,947 --> 00:13:04,850
Do you, do you plan on getting
rid of them anytime soon?
304
00:13:04,917 --> 00:13:08,220
No. (laughs) I guess I...
305
00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:11,090
because I feel
super guilty. Uh, I...
306
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I don't think I could
get rid of them,
307
00:13:14,994 --> 00:13:17,329
but I also don't ever
think I could wear them.
308
00:13:22,368 --> 00:13:24,370
I got all my--
Like, I have five things
in my room.
309
00:13:24,436 --> 00:13:27,640
My stack of clothes,
my disco lamp.
310
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And then, this is...
311
00:13:31,410 --> 00:13:33,312
-It's my cat's ashes.
-Wilson: In there?
312
00:13:33,379 --> 00:13:37,249
Yeah, she was born and then
died in this apartment, so...
313
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Wilson:
Maybe getting rid
of painful stuff is
314
00:13:40,519 --> 00:13:43,055
more complicated
than it seems
315
00:13:43,122 --> 00:13:45,824
because even if you
don't have a use for it,
316
00:13:45,891 --> 00:13:48,460
you still can't bear
to see it thrown away.
317
00:13:48,527 --> 00:13:52,598
And when you go back to your
apartment and look around...
318
00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:55,668
you realize how much
unnecessary stuff
319
00:13:55,734 --> 00:13:57,937
you've had lying
around for years, too.
320
00:13:58,003 --> 00:13:59,205
♪ ♪
321
00:13:59,271 --> 00:14:02,274
Some of it is sentimental.
322
00:14:02,341 --> 00:14:05,444
Some of it might
become valuable.
323
00:14:05,511 --> 00:14:08,414
And some of the stuff
you keep around
324
00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,850
is emotionally radioactive.
325
00:14:11,917 --> 00:14:14,486
When I was growing up,
I used to make a movie
326
00:14:14,553 --> 00:14:16,755
every single day.
327
00:14:16,822 --> 00:14:18,524
I still have all the tapes
328
00:14:18,591 --> 00:14:20,492
that I keep in a box
in my apartment.
329
00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:22,027
But, I never show
them to anyone
330
00:14:22,094 --> 00:14:24,697
because they're too
embarrassing to watch.
331
00:14:24,763 --> 00:14:26,899
(fart noises)
332
00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:30,769
I even made a feature film
when I was in high school.
333
00:14:30,836 --> 00:14:32,204
It was a Christmas movie
334
00:14:32,271 --> 00:14:34,473
called "Jingle Berry,"
335
00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:36,742
and it took over
three years to make.
336
00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:39,778
When the time came
for the premiere, uh,
337
00:14:39,845 --> 00:14:42,014
I introduced the movie
with my friend Chris,
338
00:14:42,081 --> 00:14:45,851
and then ran upstairs to man
the merch table in case
339
00:14:45,918 --> 00:14:47,052
anyone wanted to buy
340
00:14:47,119 --> 00:14:50,623
one of the 200 handmade DVDs
341
00:14:50,689 --> 00:14:53,826
that we'd prepared
for the event.
342
00:14:53,892 --> 00:14:56,862
But when the movie
was finally over,
343
00:14:56,929 --> 00:15:00,366
everyone that exited the
theater walked directly past
344
00:15:00,432 --> 00:15:03,135
and tried to avoid
eye contact with me.
345
00:15:03,202 --> 00:15:04,470
♪ ♪
346
00:15:04,536 --> 00:15:07,473
I didn't sell a single copy
to anyone that came.
347
00:15:08,774 --> 00:15:10,876
And it was one of
the most painful experiences
348
00:15:10,943 --> 00:15:13,379
of my entire life.
349
00:15:13,445 --> 00:15:15,180
(clears throat)
350
00:15:15,247 --> 00:15:17,216
I also screened it
for my parents,
351
00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:18,984
and my own father
told me that
352
00:15:19,051 --> 00:15:22,588
it was the worst movie
he had ever seen.
353
00:15:24,123 --> 00:15:26,158
I was so embarrassed
afterwards that
354
00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:29,061
I destroyed every
single disk that I made.
355
00:15:30,362 --> 00:15:32,164
But for some reason,
356
00:15:32,231 --> 00:15:34,600
I still hold on to one of them.
357
00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:38,304
If I was hit by a bus one day,
358
00:15:38,370 --> 00:15:42,207
it would be the last thing
I'd want anyone to discover.
359
00:15:42,274 --> 00:15:44,777
And there has to be some reason
360
00:15:44,843 --> 00:15:47,313
we hold on to stuff like this.
361
00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:49,548
(inaudible)
362
00:15:49,615 --> 00:15:52,117
-(rummaging)
-(sighs)
363
00:15:53,252 --> 00:15:54,720
Okay...
364
00:15:56,088 --> 00:15:57,122
Okay...
365
00:16:00,926 --> 00:16:02,461
(sighs)
366
00:16:04,196 --> 00:16:06,398
-Okay.
-Wilson: Oh wow.
367
00:16:06,465 --> 00:16:10,102
Um, this was brought back
by my Uncle Bernie
368
00:16:10,169 --> 00:16:14,073
who fought in
the 45th Infantry
during World War II.
369
00:16:14,139 --> 00:16:17,209
Wilson:
How long do you feel like
you'll hold on to this?
370
00:16:17,276 --> 00:16:19,378
Bernie's Nephew:
Um...
371
00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:22,748
It is...
I, I, I don't really know.
372
00:16:22,815 --> 00:16:24,383
I mean, this is not something
373
00:16:24,450 --> 00:16:25,818
we would casually
throw out in the trash.
374
00:16:25,884 --> 00:16:28,854
For one thing... (laughs)
I certainly wouldn't want,
375
00:16:28,921 --> 00:16:30,723
you know, any municipal
sanitation worker
376
00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:34,326
to find a Nazi flag
in our trash can...
377
00:16:34,393 --> 00:16:35,894
-Wilson: Right.
-(laughs) for starters.
378
00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:38,030
It's just,
you know, it's like
379
00:16:38,097 --> 00:16:40,499
-"the very symbol of evil."
-Wilson: Mm-hmm.
380
00:16:40,566 --> 00:16:42,634
Which it is, but it's also
381
00:16:42,701 --> 00:16:44,837
-a crappy piece of cloth.
-Wilson: Yeah.
382
00:16:44,903 --> 00:16:48,707
And, you know,
maybe, maybe there's
something to be said
383
00:16:48,774 --> 00:16:51,677
for like not fetishizing it
the way we do.
384
00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:56,382
This is the warehouse
where we store
385
00:16:56,448 --> 00:16:59,852
approximately
1.2 million items
386
00:16:59,918 --> 00:17:02,988
that have either been
confiscated or seized by
387
00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:06,892
the US Fish and Wildlife Service
Office of Law Enforcement.
388
00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:09,762
If you can imagine
a product of some kind,
389
00:17:09,828 --> 00:17:12,798
it's probably here
in one form or another.
390
00:17:14,199 --> 00:17:16,668
This is one of our
more unique objects.
391
00:17:16,735 --> 00:17:19,705
It is a tiger fetus
392
00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:23,709
that has been taxidermied
for preservation,
393
00:17:23,776 --> 00:17:27,713
A phrase that, that we
sometimes find ourselves
394
00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:31,316
saying here is,
"bad taste is not a crime."
395
00:17:31,383 --> 00:17:34,420
It probably should be,
but it is not.
396
00:17:34,486 --> 00:17:37,156
Yeah, these are really awful.
397
00:17:37,222 --> 00:17:38,857
Just awful.
398
00:17:38,924 --> 00:17:41,059
Some of this stuff will
remain here indefinitely,
399
00:17:41,126 --> 00:17:43,562
and, and I would say
when I say indefinitely,
400
00:17:43,629 --> 00:17:46,198
I really do mean, um,
401
00:17:46,265 --> 00:17:48,967
at least for the lifetime
of the repository.
402
00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:51,203
Wilson: Uh,
what's the benefit of
403
00:17:51,270 --> 00:17:54,006
preserving it over
destroying it?
404
00:17:54,072 --> 00:17:56,308
Um, even though
they're no longer,
405
00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:58,477
you know,
living creatures,
406
00:17:58,544 --> 00:18:00,846
they still play
a significant role
407
00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:03,682
in getting the message out
about conservation
408
00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:06,084
and, and combating
the illegal trade.
409
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,487
(birds chirping)
410
00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:12,024
Amputee:
A speeding motorcycle
collided into me,
411
00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:14,927
clipped me, and took
my leg off right away.
412
00:18:14,993 --> 00:18:17,596
Basically, I was
told that this leg
413
00:18:17,663 --> 00:18:19,331
was no longer a part of me.
414
00:18:19,398 --> 00:18:20,999
This wasn't even
a human anymore.
415
00:18:21,066 --> 00:18:23,035
I think they called it
like biological waste
416
00:18:23,101 --> 00:18:25,137
or something like that.
417
00:18:25,204 --> 00:18:27,506
And now it was
the property of them.
418
00:18:27,573 --> 00:18:30,876
It was no longer my property,
and that was just...
419
00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:33,712
I couldn't even--
I couldn't even accept that.
420
00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:36,348
They don't want you
taking your leg, and, and
421
00:18:36,415 --> 00:18:38,083
mailing it to the...
422
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:41,920
to the president
or something.
So, um... (laughs)
423
00:18:41,987 --> 00:18:44,156
there's a liability there,
and it's understandable.
424
00:18:44,223 --> 00:18:46,592
Wilson:
Why would you wanna mail
your leg to the president?
425
00:18:46,658 --> 00:18:48,660
Well, you know,
people do crazy things.
426
00:18:48,727 --> 00:18:50,963
So, yeah, after...
427
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:54,466
about a dozen no's, I was
finally able to convince...
428
00:18:55,701 --> 00:18:57,870
someone...
429
00:18:57,936 --> 00:18:59,872
to give me my leg back.
430
00:19:05,143 --> 00:19:06,411
Wilson:
Wow.
431
00:19:06,478 --> 00:19:09,681
Does it, does it
make you upset to,
to see this every day?
432
00:19:09,748 --> 00:19:12,050
No! No, I, I, I love it!
433
00:19:12,117 --> 00:19:15,254
To me, this is a treasure.
Like, I, I will
gladly display this.
434
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,089
I will, I will...
435
00:19:17,155 --> 00:19:19,458
I will put this on
the fireplace mantle.
I, you know,
436
00:19:19,525 --> 00:19:22,261
this is my talking piece,
this is everything to me.
437
00:19:22,327 --> 00:19:25,230
It's priceless. I couldn't--
I could never...
438
00:19:25,297 --> 00:19:27,599
I could never put a tag on it.
439
00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:30,802
Wilson:
Maybe all it takes is
a shift in perspective.
440
00:19:30,869 --> 00:19:33,505
And if you begin to see
something traumatic
441
00:19:33,572 --> 00:19:34,940
in a positive light,
442
00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:37,709
it can be something that
actually makes you feel good.
443
00:19:37,776 --> 00:19:39,678
♪ ♪
444
00:19:39,745 --> 00:19:41,046
So, you sit down to
watch "Jingle Berry"
445
00:19:41,113 --> 00:19:45,017
for the first time
since the premiere.
446
00:19:45,083 --> 00:19:48,754
Maybe you just misremembered
how bad it was,
447
00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:52,324
and you were really just being
a little too hard on yours--
448
00:19:52,391 --> 00:19:54,560
-No, Scrimsly, no! You can't!
-(dramatic music)
449
00:19:54,626 --> 00:19:56,895
I need you now more
than I ever, ever did!
450
00:19:56,962 --> 00:19:59,231
Wilson:
No, no, no. Uh,
and on second thought,
451
00:19:59,298 --> 00:20:01,967
you might actually
need to find a way
452
00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:03,402
to put it somewhere
453
00:20:03,468 --> 00:20:05,837
where, uh, it can never
hurt anyone else
454
00:20:05,904 --> 00:20:08,106
ever, ever again.
455
00:20:08,173 --> 00:20:11,777
What's the most responsible
thing to do with toxic material?
456
00:20:12,778 --> 00:20:14,379
Well...
457
00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:16,148
(laughs)
458
00:20:16,214 --> 00:20:18,250
try not making it,
but that's, um...
459
00:20:19,484 --> 00:20:23,021
That's one of the reasons
why, personally,
460
00:20:23,088 --> 00:20:26,525
I figure that we shouldn't be
having new nuclear power plants
461
00:20:26,592 --> 00:20:29,361
till we figure out
where we're putting
the waste we've generated.
462
00:20:29,428 --> 00:20:31,163
The Waste Isolation Pilot Plant
463
00:20:31,229 --> 00:20:34,933
is where they're disposing
of radioactive wastes,
464
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,002
and the project was
465
00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:39,938
how do you mark the site
and have it be
466
00:20:40,005 --> 00:20:42,975
intelligible for 10,000 years?
467
00:20:43,041 --> 00:20:46,478
You don't know which
language is gonna survive.
468
00:20:46,545 --> 00:20:50,015
Certain facial expressions
469
00:20:50,082 --> 00:20:52,584
work across cultures.
470
00:20:52,651 --> 00:20:54,853
-Wilson: Mm-hm.
-Something like this,
471
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,824
which would say
it's not a good place to be,
472
00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:00,592
should be on there.
473
00:21:00,659 --> 00:21:02,728
You've got hurt,
you've got pain,
474
00:21:02,794 --> 00:21:05,397
and as time goes on,
475
00:21:05,464 --> 00:21:08,433
the hazard from these
wastes diminish.
476
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:12,337
I mean, no one
likes the idea of being
near toxic stuff,
477
00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:15,273
and particularly toxic stuff
you don't know was toxic.
478
00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:18,810
And that's part of the reason
479
00:21:18,877 --> 00:21:21,146
to tell people that you
really don't wanna be here.
480
00:21:21,847 --> 00:21:23,048
♪ ♪
481
00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:26,184
Wilson:
I used to live on
the most radioactive block
482
00:21:26,251 --> 00:21:27,786
in New York City.
483
00:21:28,954 --> 00:21:30,889
In the 1950s,
they used to dump
484
00:21:30,956 --> 00:21:34,826
hazardous waste into the sewer
underneath, uh, this deli
485
00:21:34,893 --> 00:21:37,462
because they didn't know
what else to do with it.
486
00:21:37,529 --> 00:21:39,498
The city tried to
block the radiation
487
00:21:39,564 --> 00:21:43,435
by covering it with heavy
lead and steel plates,
488
00:21:43,502 --> 00:21:46,972
but that was only
a temporary fix,
489
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:49,508
and the radiation will
still keep harming people
490
00:21:49,574 --> 00:21:51,777
until they fully
excavate the site
491
00:21:51,843 --> 00:21:53,879
and displace everyone above it.
492
00:21:55,213 --> 00:21:56,348
Maybe it's such a low priority
493
00:21:56,415 --> 00:21:59,217
because there's
no obvious solution,
494
00:21:59,284 --> 00:22:01,820
and it's easier to just
ignore what's there.
495
00:22:04,856 --> 00:22:07,559
Supposedly on Randall's Island,
496
00:22:07,626 --> 00:22:10,162
there's more housing
for sex offenders
497
00:22:10,228 --> 00:22:13,732
than anywhere else
in New York City.
498
00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:15,167
They're pretty strict,
as I understand.
499
00:22:15,233 --> 00:22:17,869
You can't be by schools,
you can't be by...
500
00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:19,604
(truck drives by)
501
00:22:19,671 --> 00:22:22,941
can't live with
a thousand feet of a,
a school,
502
00:22:23,008 --> 00:22:26,445
can't be by children
under the age of 17.
503
00:22:26,511 --> 00:22:28,947
But, you still have to have
a place for them to go.
504
00:22:29,014 --> 00:22:31,983
And, for some reason,
they picked Randall's Island,
505
00:22:32,050 --> 00:22:34,553
which is a little strange to me.
506
00:22:34,619 --> 00:22:37,322
Wilson:
Do you think a lot of people
here know that they're so close?
507
00:22:37,389 --> 00:22:39,524
I, I, I doubt it.
508
00:22:39,591 --> 00:22:42,360
I doubt that they even...
509
00:22:42,427 --> 00:22:44,229
have a clue that they're here.
510
00:22:44,296 --> 00:22:46,631
You can see there's
a park right there.
If you turn around,
511
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:49,434
kids are playing in the parks,
and they got about
512
00:22:49,501 --> 00:22:52,671
27 fields like that
on this island.
513
00:22:52,738 --> 00:22:54,773
And right there,
sex offenders.
Right there.
514
00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:01,847
You wouldn't even know...
If I showed you them,
515
00:23:01,913 --> 00:23:03,849
you wouldn't even--
Like, "no way." Like,
516
00:23:03,915 --> 00:23:05,350
I don't know how I look,
517
00:23:05,417 --> 00:23:07,986
but most people
would never suspect
that I'm a sex offender.
518
00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:09,588
-You know what I'm saying?
-Wilson: Did you...
519
00:23:09,654 --> 00:23:12,324
I mean,
I clean up good sometimes,
you know what I'm sayin'?
520
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:16,194
I'm homeless now
because I can't live
in certain situations
521
00:23:16,261 --> 00:23:19,598
-because of my level 2
sex offense.
-(truck beeping)
522
00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:23,535
I was in with these crazy
child molesters and shit.
523
00:23:23,602 --> 00:23:25,537
I couldn't deal with it.
524
00:23:25,604 --> 00:23:29,141
Most of the sex offenders
in New York City
525
00:23:29,207 --> 00:23:30,776
go through this
system right here,
526
00:23:30,842 --> 00:23:33,545
and most of them
go to Clark Thomas.
527
00:23:33,612 --> 00:23:34,980
This is where you get
off at, right there.
528
00:23:35,046 --> 00:23:37,215
That's the stop, and you go
to Clark Thomas right there.
529
00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:39,751
It's the worst possible bus
530
00:23:39,818 --> 00:23:41,253
that you could get on.
531
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:44,022
However you call
the one in Afghanistan?
532
00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:46,725
That's what that bus is like.
533
00:23:46,792 --> 00:23:49,694
Most of the people that make
the decisions about these places
534
00:23:49,761 --> 00:23:51,897
haven't experienced
these places.
535
00:23:51,963 --> 00:23:54,766
They just come up
with an idea, like,
"That would be great.
536
00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:57,302
Let's go live on the moon."
You never been to the moon!
537
00:23:57,369 --> 00:23:58,670
But, "Let's go live on the moon!
538
00:23:58,737 --> 00:24:00,105
"Let's make some
housing on the moon.
539
00:24:00,172 --> 00:24:02,107
That shit would be great!"
And they make it on the moon,
540
00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:05,143
then they realize, "Damn.
There's no atmosphere here.
541
00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:06,545
How are we gonna live here?"
542
00:24:06,611 --> 00:24:08,947
With being a sex offense,
543
00:24:09,014 --> 00:24:11,850
you definitely have
to admit to it.
544
00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:13,752
Even in the programs
that they put you in,
545
00:24:13,819 --> 00:24:16,855
if you don't admit it,
you're not going home.
546
00:24:16,922 --> 00:24:19,791
And a lot of people
admit it just to go home.
547
00:24:19,858 --> 00:24:21,860
Wilson:
Have you admitted it
to yourself?
548
00:24:21,927 --> 00:24:25,463
At first, I didn't.
I was in denial.
549
00:24:25,530 --> 00:24:27,332
I was in denial.
Even talking about it now,
550
00:24:27,399 --> 00:24:28,733
I don't even wanna
fully get into it
551
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,269
because I start to cry when
I even think about what I did
552
00:24:31,336 --> 00:24:32,938
and what I did to her,
553
00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:35,173
and what I did to me
and my family.
554
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,310
You know what I mean?
I've been selfish my whole life,
555
00:24:38,376 --> 00:24:40,779
so I think about it,
of course, but
556
00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:43,381
I haven't forgiven myself
for what I've done.
557
00:24:45,016 --> 00:24:48,153
I'm still living with that
right now, you know what I mean?
558
00:24:48,220 --> 00:24:50,322
Trying to forgive myself
for what I've done.
559
00:24:50,388 --> 00:24:54,292
So, you know,
even if she forgave me...
560
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,729
(stammering)
I got to forgive me.
You know what I mean?
561
00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:00,699
I can't-- I gotta forgive me,
and it's hard for me to do that.
562
00:25:00,765 --> 00:25:03,435
♪ ♪
563
00:25:03,501 --> 00:25:05,971
Wilson:
Maybe your past
isn't something
564
00:25:06,037 --> 00:25:09,107
that you can just throw away.
565
00:25:09,174 --> 00:25:13,778
Because it'll always be part
of you in one way or another.
566
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:17,749
As I was about to
leave the island,
567
00:25:17,816 --> 00:25:20,719
I saw that a fire
started in the trashcan
568
00:25:20,785 --> 00:25:23,021
at the bus stop we passed.
569
00:25:23,088 --> 00:25:26,291
And it didn't really seem
to faze anybody there.
570
00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:31,963
And even though I was
standing right next to it
571
00:25:32,030 --> 00:25:33,565
the whole time,
572
00:25:33,632 --> 00:25:37,369
I still had no idea
how it started.
573
00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:41,206
This is just another day
in a shelter system, man.
574
00:25:41,273 --> 00:25:42,707
This is what they do.
You're dealing
575
00:25:42,774 --> 00:25:45,176
with mentally ill people, man.
576
00:25:45,243 --> 00:25:46,778
Like what do you expect
when you put a bunch
577
00:25:46,845 --> 00:25:48,980
of mentally challenged people
and you're not helping them?
578
00:25:51,049 --> 00:25:52,317
(Wilson speaking)
579
00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:54,386
It's about to go out,
but it's still dangerous.
580
00:25:54,452 --> 00:25:56,254
Fumes and shit like that.
581
00:25:58,723 --> 00:26:00,492
Officer:
Hit at the bottom, the bottom!
582
00:26:03,528 --> 00:26:06,564
(indistinct chatter)
583
00:26:07,465 --> 00:26:09,301
(inaudible)
584
00:26:09,367 --> 00:26:12,437
(birds chirping)
585
00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:18,910
♪ ♪
586
00:26:21,579 --> 00:26:24,115
Wilson:
Once you decide something
is a piece of trash,
587
00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:28,987
it becomes hard to see
it as anything else.
588
00:26:29,054 --> 00:26:32,624
Even though there's
still a part of you
in there somewhere.
589
00:26:34,592 --> 00:26:36,828
And if you don't
figure out the right way
590
00:26:36,895 --> 00:26:39,264
to deal with all your stuff,
591
00:26:39,331 --> 00:26:44,169
it could end up doing lasting
damage to somebody else.
592
00:26:44,235 --> 00:26:48,640
So even if your problem seems
insignificant in the moment,
593
00:26:48,707 --> 00:26:52,777
you should find a way to deal
with it while you still can.
594
00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:56,147
Because once you're able
to recognize the person
595
00:26:56,214 --> 00:26:58,149
that you were, you can
596
00:26:58,216 --> 00:27:01,419
finally start to work on
who you want to become.
597
00:27:03,455 --> 00:27:07,826
And then you might not
have to throw anything out.
598
00:27:07,892 --> 00:27:12,030
Because even if something
seems toxic now,
599
00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:14,065
there's a good chance
it'll be valuable
600
00:27:14,132 --> 00:27:16,801
to someone else one day,
601
00:27:16,868 --> 00:27:19,371
and could even be used
to educate them
602
00:27:19,437 --> 00:27:21,473
-about what not to do.
-(clang)
603
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,509
So long as you warn them about
604
00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:27,545
the stuff that
you left behind,
605
00:27:27,612 --> 00:27:29,814
they should be able to decide
606
00:27:29,881 --> 00:27:32,150
how close they
want to get to it.
607
00:27:33,885 --> 00:27:36,388
And even though you feel bad
for having created a mess
608
00:27:36,454 --> 00:27:38,323
in the first place,
609
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:40,725
future generations
will thank you
610
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:42,994
for doing the right thing.
611
00:27:44,596 --> 00:27:47,265
This is John Wilson.
Thanks for watching.
612
00:27:48,633 --> 00:27:51,703
(dogs barking
"Happy Birthday")
613
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:58,743
(howl)
614
00:28:00,578 --> 00:28:03,048
-(barking stops)
-(paper crinkling)
615
00:28:03,114 --> 00:28:06,151
♪ ♪