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Ruby:
Hey, now.
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♪♪
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it's got to be 100 degrees
in the shade today.
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I-I was hoping I could
trouble you for a sip.
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You work around here?
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Just down the road
at the shurden place.
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I-I cut through here sometimes
on my way to the market.
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Saves me a few steps.
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You could fry an egg
in this heat today.
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Sure could.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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♪♪
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[ water rushing ]
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down at the shurden place,
all anybody can talk about
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these days is that
till boy turned up dead.
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Some folks say he was
seen around here
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the morning
he went missing.
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[ grunts ]
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you hear anything
like that?
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Folks say
a lot of things.
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But I ain't got time
for gossip.
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[ panting ]
you take care now.
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I don't work at the
shurden place, ma'am.
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My name
is ruby hurley.
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I work for the
national association
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for the advancement
of colored people,
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and I've been chasing
down leads all day
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to try to find the folks
that saw emmett till
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on the morning
that he was murdered.
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From what I hear, you might
be one of those folks.
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I ain't seen nothin',
and I ain't got nothin' to say.
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Ma'am, that boy was hunted down
and killed in cold blood.
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Now, if you know something,
you can expose the truth.
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And what good
is that gon' do?
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He's dead!
Look!
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I know that
you're scared.
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I-I know that you'd be
risking y-your job
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and your livelihood
to come forward.
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"livelihood"?
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I been picking cotton
all my life,
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and I'm still waitin'
to make a profit.
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That is exactly what
I am talking about.
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Nothing is gonna
change for us
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unless folks like you
come forward.
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And if you don't, who's to say
it won't be your child next?
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all I saw was a truck
parked over
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at the shed
that morning...
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And -- and four white men
standing around.
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Did you recognize
any of those men?
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I didn't get
a good look.
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but one of them
was tall and...
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Was kind of
bald-headed.
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I heard emmett till
was seen in the back
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of a truck
with two negro men.
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Did you see
any of them?
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No.
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But I know someone over
at the shurden place.
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Name's willie reed.
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He saw that boy.
And those other men, too.
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Only he says there was
three of them in the back.
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Three men
were with emmett?
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where can I find
willie reed?
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I don't know.
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He went missing
a couple of days ago,
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and ain't nobody
seen him since.
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-- captions by vitac --
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news announcer: Jury selection
began yesterday in the trial
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against j.W. Milam
and roy bryant --
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the two men accused of killing
14-year-old negro emmett till.
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Noticeably missing
was mamie bradley,
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mother of the alleged victim,
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but the courtroom was packed
with spectators.
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Many mississippi locals
complained about
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the level of publicity
this case has drawn
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and what some believe has been
an unfair portrayal
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of their region.
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This trial comes at a time
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when racial tensions continue
to escalate in the area,
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as several negro activists were
shot dead in recent months
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with no arrests made.
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The discovery of the body
alleged to be till
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has set off a series
of protest rallies
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led by the naacp.
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At one event held in chicago,
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mamie bradley reportedly
referred to mississippi
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as a "den of snakes."
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yeah, we were out there
half the night.
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I was just about ready
to give up,
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but the chief here
managed to track down
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willie reed's grandfather
and get him to talk.
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Turns out he was on the
plantation that morning, too.
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Said he heard
sounds of beating
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coming from the shed,
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and someone screamin'.
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But did he actually
lay eyes on emmett?
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No. Apparently, the only one
who did was willie reed,
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and I got the sense
from the grandfather
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that willie's hiding out
'cause he's too scared to talk.
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So, bryant and milam had at
least two white accomplices,
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one who fits the description
of milam's brother.
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Mm-hmm.
And I'd wager that two
of the negro men
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who were in the back
of the truck
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are the same fellas
I heard about
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at the dance hall --
"too tight"
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and henry lee loggins.
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Yeah, one of them
has to be the third man
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who went with bryant
and milam to mose wright's.
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So, where are they?
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Well, either they're
hiding out like willie reed
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or someone's
keeping them quiet.
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We don't have enough
evidence to place emmett
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at that plantation
without any of them.
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But we do have enough
to take this public,
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call for further
investigation.
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This is our last chance
to get this case
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moved out of
tallahatchie county
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and out of sheriff strider's
jurisdiction.
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Then let's run the story.
Dr. Howard: No.
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If we go to press now,
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we put those witnesses'
lives in jeopardy.
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No, we have to get them
to safety first.
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And how can we protect them
if we can't even find them?
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If jury selection wraps up
this morning as scheduled,
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they'll begin
hearing testimony,
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and we won't be able to
introduce any new evidence.
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Which is why we need
the authorities.
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They have the resources
to find those witnesses
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and finish what we started.
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Or make it all
disappear.
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Exactly.
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Sheriff strider
wants this case,
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and he won't let it leave
this county without a fight.
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He's dirty
and connected.
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We have to be careful
who we involve.
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What about chatham?
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By all appearances,
he's putting in the work --
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a good-faith effort.
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Think we can trust him?
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Maybe.
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And his associate,
robert smith --
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uh, he's former fbi.
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[ clicks tongue ] it doesn't
matter who we go to.
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They're not gon'
listen to us.
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On a good day, they see us
as outside agitators
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with no business
in local affairs.
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On every other day,
we're just a bunch
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of uppity negroes
causing trouble.
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You got a better idea?
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What if chatham learns
about the witnesses
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from someone else?
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Someone who can
hold him accountable.
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Someone white.
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Yeah, and he would have no
choice but to take it seriously.
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Question is...
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Who can we trust
with something this big?
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[ indistinct conversations ]
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man: Hey, there she is.
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-Hey!
-Hey!
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-Mrs. Bradley?
-Mamie!
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-Mrs. Bradley?
-Mamie, over here!
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Man: Mamie,
what evidence do you have
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that's relevant
to the case?
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Are you here
to seek revenge?
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-Mrs. Bradley?
-Over here.
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What do you intend
to do here today?
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[ reporters shouting ]
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I am here to answer
any questions that my --
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that the a-attorneys may ask me
to answer to the best --
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do you have any evidence
bearing on this case?
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I-I do know that
this is my son.
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How do you respond
to local citizens
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who say
a civilized mother
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would never have put a child's
body on public display?
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We've looked away
for too long.
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Opening my son's casket
made it impossible to ignore
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what really
goes on down here.
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What about your son's
father, ma'am?
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Where is he?
[ cap guns firing ]
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[ laughter ]
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♪♪
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just keep moving.
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deputy:
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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I'm gonna need
you boys to stop.
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Hold your hands out
to the side.
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♪♪
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it's okay.
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Just wait for us
over there.
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Come on.
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♪♪
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[ sighs ] alright.
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Come on.
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♪♪
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I'm fine. Just wrinkled
my good shirt, that's all.
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Deputy: [ sighs ]
alright, go ahead.
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♪♪
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[ indistinct conversations ]
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♪♪
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[ flashbulbs snapping ]
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[ sighs ] mr. Booker.
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What a relief to see
a familiar face.
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Mm.
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My goodness,
it's hot in here.
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It's supposed to be
95 degrees today,
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and that's
just outside.
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Get your
ice-cold sodas.
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Don't worry, we got
plenty of water with us
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at the press table.
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Meet ruby hurley
from the naacp.
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[ sighs ]
mrs. Bradley.
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Oh. [ laughs ]
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you made it.
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It is such an honor.
Thank you.
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I-I must admit,
you're the first woman
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I've met in the naacp.
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We are few, but fierce.
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Well, I'd say so.
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So, what is it
that you do?
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Oh, I'm the
southeastern director,
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which basically means
I travel around
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to the worst sections
of the country
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raising hell
in the name of justice.
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[ chuckles ]
ruby leads an army
of 35,000
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and is probably the only one
to receive death threats
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and marriage proposals
in equal measure.
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It's a hazard of the job.
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Sometimes you gotta
flip your hips
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if you want to get people
to talk to you.
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[ chuckles ] well,
it's good to know
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that women are a part
of the movement.
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Oh, we're not
just part of it.
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We're essential to it.
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And seeing you fighting
for your child
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is gonna inspire other women
to do the same.
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Strider:
Mamie bradley.
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Nice of you to join us.
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Your subpoena.
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♪♪
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you are now officially
a witness in this trial.
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While you are here,
you will come under
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all rules of mississippi.
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Understood?
Yes, sir.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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♪♪
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my god, they allow children
in the courtroom?
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♪♪
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all rise.
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♪♪
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[ flashbulb snaps ]
the court is now
in session.
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The honorable
judge swango presiding.
259
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Please be seated.
260
00:10:01,101 --> 00:10:02,167
Swango: Thank you.
261
00:10:02,252 --> 00:10:03,935
I would like to remind
the members of the press
262
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that neither photography
nor sketching will be permitted
263
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while this court's
in session,
264
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though it may resume
during recess.
265
00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:12,143
Counsel, you may continue
jury selection.
266
00:10:12,245 --> 00:10:13,578
Thank you, your honor.
267
00:10:15,282 --> 00:10:17,882
Mr. Lay...
[ babbling ]
268
00:10:17,985 --> 00:10:19,200
...Have you
ever contributed
269
00:10:19,252 --> 00:10:21,786
to either mr. Bryant
or mr. Milam's defense fund?
270
00:10:21,888 --> 00:10:24,055
♪♪
271
00:10:24,141 --> 00:10:27,525
lay: Well, I might have...
Might not have.
272
00:10:27,628 --> 00:10:29,027
[ laughter ]
273
00:10:29,062 --> 00:10:33,164
chatham: Would you please tell
the court how you feel about...
274
00:10:36,002 --> 00:10:38,320
Alright, you be good now.
John: How you
holding up so far?
275
00:10:38,355 --> 00:10:39,854
Mind your granny.
You ready for some lunch?
276
00:10:39,906 --> 00:10:42,123
Mamie:
I don't know that I have much
of an appetite after all that.
277
00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:44,009
But I would like to find
the ladies' room.
278
00:10:44,127 --> 00:10:45,577
The closest
we could use
279
00:10:45,646 --> 00:10:47,062
is over at
james griffin's place --
280
00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:48,246
the diner across town.
281
00:10:48,332 --> 00:10:50,248
We'll take you.
Across town?
282
00:10:50,334 --> 00:10:52,050
Meanwhile, there's
a "whites only" bathroom
283
00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:53,468
on every floor
of the courthouse.
284
00:10:53,553 --> 00:10:55,003
Even the defendants
get to use the one
285
00:10:55,088 --> 00:10:56,338
in the judge's chambers.
286
00:10:56,423 --> 00:10:57,972
We'll have plenty
of time to grab lunch
287
00:10:58,058 --> 00:11:01,176
then make it back to hear
testimony with time to spare.
288
00:11:01,261 --> 00:11:03,228
I say it's a miracle
they found 12 men
289
00:11:03,347 --> 00:11:05,046
who hadn't contributed
to the defense fund --
290
00:11:05,148 --> 00:11:06,881
or at least admitted
to contributing.
291
00:11:06,983 --> 00:11:09,017
They were a motley looking
bunch, weren't they?
292
00:11:09,102 --> 00:11:11,353
[ chuckles ]
well, let's just hope
mr. Chatham selected
293
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a few jurors
with enough good sense
294
00:11:13,824 --> 00:11:15,774
to distinguish truth
from lies.
295
00:11:15,859 --> 00:11:18,276
Yeah.
Sidney: Why, it was just
a few years ago,
296
00:11:18,362 --> 00:11:20,445
j.W. Milam saved
a little negro girl
297
00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:23,231
from drowning
in the tallahatchie river.
298
00:11:23,333 --> 00:11:26,167
He has loaned his own car
to his workers on --
299
00:11:26,253 --> 00:11:29,087
on several occasions,
and once even rushed one
300
00:11:29,206 --> 00:11:31,339
to the hospital when
he'd slashed a vein.
301
00:11:31,425 --> 00:11:33,591
Now, these are not
the actions of a man
302
00:11:33,677 --> 00:11:36,210
with racial hatred
in his heart.
303
00:11:36,313 --> 00:11:39,597
Mr. Milam is loved by all
the negroes in his community.
304
00:11:39,683 --> 00:11:40,932
[ sighs ]
305
00:11:41,017 --> 00:11:48,256
♪♪
306
00:11:48,308 --> 00:11:51,409
that sheriff
has his deputies
307
00:11:51,495 --> 00:11:54,328
frisk the family
of the victim this morning,
308
00:11:54,381 --> 00:11:57,031
then has the gall
to eat lunch with them?
309
00:11:57,067 --> 00:11:59,317
As if they're just
a couple of old pals?
310
00:11:59,386 --> 00:12:00,719
Try not to
focus on them.
311
00:12:00,787 --> 00:12:02,687
But how can I
ignore it?
312
00:12:02,756 --> 00:12:04,339
There is nothing
for me to do here
313
00:12:04,374 --> 00:12:09,327
except sit still
and watch and wait.
314
00:12:10,347 --> 00:12:12,781
Oh, god. Maybe if y'all
could just catch me up
315
00:12:12,816 --> 00:12:16,067
on what you've been working on,
I-I could be of help somehow.
316
00:12:16,186 --> 00:12:19,087
There must be
something I can do.
317
00:12:19,172 --> 00:12:20,472
You showed up.
318
00:12:21,808 --> 00:12:24,142
I know
that wasn't easy.
319
00:12:24,227 --> 00:12:25,527
And it won't be
any easier tomorrow
320
00:12:25,562 --> 00:12:27,796
or the next day,
but it matters.
321
00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:30,432
It really does.
322
00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:32,167
So just keep
showing up.
323
00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:41,409
♪♪
324
00:12:41,445 --> 00:12:44,763
mr. Chatham, mr. Smith.
Y'all have a moment?
325
00:12:44,798 --> 00:12:46,931
I'm sorry, son, but we won't be
making any statements
326
00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,899
to the press
at this time.
327
00:12:47,984 --> 00:12:49,400
I'm not looking
for anything.
328
00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:51,202
I have something
for you.
329
00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:53,171
From dr. Howard.
330
00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:55,840
Well, I can't imagine
what he'd have for me.
331
00:12:55,926 --> 00:12:57,242
Witnesses.
332
00:12:57,327 --> 00:12:59,144
He's found at least three
who saw emmett till
333
00:12:59,212 --> 00:13:00,462
on the morning
of his death,
334
00:13:00,514 --> 00:13:02,197
can identify the location
where he was taken --
335
00:13:02,232 --> 00:13:04,299
where his murder
likely occurred.
336
00:13:04,334 --> 00:13:06,284
And they can even place
the defendants there
337
00:13:06,353 --> 00:13:07,902
and confirm they
did not act alone.
338
00:13:07,988 --> 00:13:09,270
Where are these people?
339
00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:11,556
Dr. Howard and his team
will disclose their identities
340
00:13:11,608 --> 00:13:13,358
as soon as they receive
assurances from law enforcement
341
00:13:13,426 --> 00:13:16,227
that they'll be brought
in safely to testify.
342
00:13:16,313 --> 00:13:18,997
But they're gonna need you to
reach out to trusted officials.
343
00:13:19,082 --> 00:13:20,932
No strider.
Understood.
344
00:13:21,034 --> 00:13:22,767
There's more to it
than that.
345
00:13:22,853 --> 00:13:24,502
According to
these witnesses,
346
00:13:24,571 --> 00:13:26,137
till was likely killed
on a plantation
347
00:13:26,256 --> 00:13:28,323
in sunflower county.
348
00:13:28,358 --> 00:13:29,924
Well, if that's true, we'll have
to forfeit this case
349
00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,009
over to their
district attorney.
350
00:13:31,094 --> 00:13:32,760
Sanders is chomping
at the bit.
351
00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:35,547
[ chuckles ] I thought
you might be relieved
352
00:13:35,615 --> 00:13:36,915
to have it
off your plate.
353
00:13:37,017 --> 00:13:39,600
It's a tough case.
354
00:13:39,686 --> 00:13:42,053
The kind that legacies
are made from.
355
00:13:42,122 --> 00:13:43,321
Well, it wouldn't be
much of a legacy
356
00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,674
if you lost, would it?
357
00:13:46,726 --> 00:13:49,610
Without these witnesses,
that's a strong possibility.
358
00:13:49,713 --> 00:13:55,567
♪♪
359
00:13:55,669 --> 00:13:56,835
bailiff: All rise.
360
00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,873
♪♪
361
00:14:01,958 --> 00:14:03,308
court is now in session.
362
00:14:03,376 --> 00:14:04,943
The honorable
judge swango presiding.
363
00:14:05,061 --> 00:14:06,578
You may be seated.
364
00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:12,283
Swango: Court will
now hear the case
365
00:14:12,352 --> 00:14:15,086
of the state of mississippi vs.
Roy bryant and j.W. Milam.
366
00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:16,688
Both sides present,
ready for testimony?
367
00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:18,056
Ready for the defense,
your honor.
368
00:14:18,124 --> 00:14:21,442
Your honor, I'd like
to request a continuance.
369
00:14:21,545 --> 00:14:25,163
[ spectators murmuring ]
370
00:14:25,282 --> 00:14:26,965
[ gavel bangs ]
371
00:14:27,050 --> 00:14:28,850
we're about to begin
testimony, mr. Chatham.
372
00:14:28,902 --> 00:14:30,635
What cause do you have
for delay?
373
00:14:30,704 --> 00:14:33,504
Your honor, moments ago,
our office was informed
374
00:14:33,573 --> 00:14:35,273
of the existence
of several witnesses
375
00:14:35,342 --> 00:14:36,741
previously unknown
to us --
376
00:14:36,826 --> 00:14:38,309
witnesses who could
provide evidence
377
00:14:38,395 --> 00:14:39,878
that could change
the course --
378
00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:42,229
if not the very nature --
of these proceedings.
379
00:14:42,332 --> 00:14:44,682
[ spectators groan ]
I need order in this court.
380
00:14:46,436 --> 00:14:48,720
Please remain quiet while
we discuss this matter further.
381
00:14:48,788 --> 00:14:50,305
Uh, t-the defense has not
been made aware
382
00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:51,940
of any new witnesses,
383
00:14:51,992 --> 00:14:54,208
and we move to exclude
any additional testimony
384
00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:55,894
and that we continue
with the proceedings
385
00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:57,745
without undue delay.
386
00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:02,867
Court finds the state's
position reasonable.
387
00:15:02,936 --> 00:15:04,385
Continuance is granted.
388
00:15:04,437 --> 00:15:07,005
Witness testimony
will begin tomorrow morning.
389
00:15:07,090 --> 00:15:09,440
Court is adjourned for
the remainder of the day.
390
00:15:09,526 --> 00:15:13,044
[ indistinct conversations ]
391
00:15:13,146 --> 00:15:14,295
you knew?
392
00:15:15,432 --> 00:15:17,832
We wanted to tell you, but we
weren't sure how it'd pan out.
393
00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:19,117
We didn't want to get
your hopes up
394
00:15:19,185 --> 00:15:20,385
till medgar here
gave us the all-clear.
395
00:15:20,487 --> 00:15:22,003
Well, tell me now.
396
00:15:22,038 --> 00:15:24,005
Well, we found some
local plantation workers
397
00:15:24,057 --> 00:15:25,690
who either saw
or heard emmett
398
00:15:25,792 --> 00:15:27,725
on the morning
of his disappearance.
399
00:15:27,794 --> 00:15:29,193
They heard him?
400
00:15:31,581 --> 00:15:32,897
Tell me.
401
00:15:32,966 --> 00:15:34,632
What did they hear?
402
00:15:35,936 --> 00:15:38,036
Your son crying out.
403
00:15:40,490 --> 00:15:41,973
Ruby:
They wanted to help.
404
00:15:42,042 --> 00:15:44,275
They just didn't see
how they could.
405
00:15:45,946 --> 00:15:47,879
And it won't be easy to hear
what they have to say,
406
00:15:47,948 --> 00:15:51,132
but if we can get this case
moved to sunflower county,
407
00:15:51,167 --> 00:15:54,719
we are one step closer
to justice for your son.
408
00:15:54,788 --> 00:15:57,055
I hope you're right.
409
00:15:57,140 --> 00:15:58,556
Now, if you'll excuse me,
410
00:15:58,658 --> 00:16:00,942
I think I've had enough
for today.
411
00:16:01,027 --> 00:16:04,345
Um, I'd like to settle in
at dr. Howard's.
412
00:16:12,656 --> 00:16:15,673
[ laughter ]
413
00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,608
okay, okay.
Alright.
414
00:16:20,380 --> 00:16:22,814
♪♪
415
00:16:22,932 --> 00:16:24,799
♪ dreaming ♪
♪ dreaming ♪
416
00:16:24,901 --> 00:16:26,651
♪ dreaming ♪
♪ dreaming ♪
417
00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:27,968
♪ here I am dreaming again ♪
418
00:16:28,071 --> 00:16:30,638
♪ here I am dreaming again ♪
419
00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:32,240
♪ dreaming ♪
♪ dreaming ♪
420
00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:34,659
♪ dreaming ♪
♪ just dreaming ♪
421
00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:35,860
♪ I'm in a deep dream again ♪
422
00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:38,646
♪ I'm in a deep dream again ♪
423
00:16:38,748 --> 00:16:40,365
♪ sleeping ♪
♪ sleeping ♪
424
00:16:40,450 --> 00:16:42,250
♪ just a-sleeping ♪
425
00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:47,171
♪ it's time for me to wake up ♪
426
00:16:47,273 --> 00:16:51,092
♪ for no matter how I dream ♪
427
00:16:51,177 --> 00:16:53,628
♪ it always makes me cry ♪
428
00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:56,964
welcome to mound bayou.
429
00:16:58,101 --> 00:16:59,550
[ engine turns off ]
430
00:17:03,139 --> 00:17:04,355
thank you.
431
00:17:04,474 --> 00:17:05,973
[ chuckles ]
432
00:17:07,811 --> 00:17:11,112
it is a pleasure to finally
meet you, mrs. Bradley.
433
00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:13,448
Thank you for opening
your home to us.
434
00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:15,483
I am very grateful.
435
00:17:15,568 --> 00:17:17,017
Ah, mr. Mooty.
436
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:18,319
It's a real
honor, sir.
437
00:17:18,405 --> 00:17:20,038
Ah, mr. Carthan.
438
00:17:20,156 --> 00:17:21,572
[ chuckles ]
show these gentlemen
439
00:17:21,658 --> 00:17:22,690
to their rooms,
will you?
440
00:17:22,792 --> 00:17:24,575
I'm going to give
mrs. Bradley here
441
00:17:24,661 --> 00:17:27,211
the vip tour.
442
00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:28,329
[ laughs ]
443
00:17:28,415 --> 00:17:30,865
wow.
444
00:17:30,967 --> 00:17:33,384
Did I see a pool
on my way out here?
445
00:17:33,503 --> 00:17:35,002
Oh, indeed, you did.
446
00:17:35,088 --> 00:17:36,871
Where else are our children
going to swim?
447
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:39,490
[ laughs ]
everything
in our community
448
00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:42,026
is meant to enrich
its people.
449
00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:44,862
Even our hospital
employs an all-negro staff,
450
00:17:44,948 --> 00:17:46,531
so when one of us
is sick,
451
00:17:46,649 --> 00:17:48,082
we can enter through
the front door,
452
00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:49,634
and we can do so knowing
453
00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,719
that we'll be heard
and counseled by someone
454
00:17:51,821 --> 00:17:55,456
that can see our pain
and acknowledge it.
455
00:17:55,508 --> 00:17:57,341
And you are
the chief of surgery.
456
00:17:57,444 --> 00:17:59,627
Yes.
My goodness.
457
00:17:59,679 --> 00:18:01,729
I didn't even think a thing
like that was possible.
458
00:18:01,815 --> 00:18:02,930
It wasn't.
459
00:18:03,032 --> 00:18:05,049
Until it was, huh?
460
00:18:05,135 --> 00:18:08,186
Until you made it so?
[ chuckling ]
oh, no, no, no.
461
00:18:08,271 --> 00:18:10,488
Oh, I can't take
the credit, no.
462
00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:14,358
Mound bayou was founded
out of necessity
463
00:18:14,444 --> 00:18:16,427
by isaiah montgomery
and benjamin green.
464
00:18:16,496 --> 00:18:18,379
Now, both men
had been enslaved,
465
00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:21,348
and as soon as they were
free and capable,
466
00:18:21,451 --> 00:18:23,835
they recruited
the best of their people
467
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,687
and turned this town into
a self-reliant community.
468
00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:29,624
A safe haven.
Absolutely.
469
00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:32,426
Well, the settlers had
spent their entire lives
470
00:18:32,479 --> 00:18:34,045
building up this land
for white folks.
471
00:18:34,130 --> 00:18:35,713
They decided it was time
they built something
472
00:18:35,832 --> 00:18:37,115
for themselves, huh?
473
00:18:37,183 --> 00:18:38,733
[ laughs ]
474
00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:41,869
68 years later,
I am humbled
475
00:18:41,955 --> 00:18:44,772
to play a small role
in its continued growth.
476
00:18:44,858 --> 00:18:48,159
It's wonderful --
all of it.
477
00:18:48,261 --> 00:18:50,428
Since I crossed
the state line,
478
00:18:50,513 --> 00:18:53,281
I've been made to feel
like a fugitive.
479
00:18:53,333 --> 00:18:57,251
I feel like I've been
holding my breath for days.
480
00:18:57,353 --> 00:18:59,036
I know the feeling well.
481
00:19:01,875 --> 00:19:05,243
Thank you for giving me
a space where I can breathe.
482
00:19:05,328 --> 00:19:06,244
Of course.
483
00:19:06,329 --> 00:19:07,645
And if there's anything
else I can do
484
00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:11,249
to make you feel more at home,
you just let me know, huh?
485
00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:14,101
There you are.
486
00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:18,506
I'll have our cook
whip up something fine
487
00:19:18,541 --> 00:19:21,409
and southern for supper
at around 6:30.
488
00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:22,860
[ chuckles ]
489
00:19:22,946 --> 00:19:24,462
dr. Howard.
490
00:19:24,547 --> 00:19:27,047
♪♪
491
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,901
you're the freest black man
I've ever met.
492
00:19:29,969 --> 00:19:32,136
You could live anywhere.
493
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:34,922
Why don't you move
up north?
494
00:19:34,958 --> 00:19:37,424
That pool...
495
00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:39,327
Those children,
this community --
496
00:19:39,412 --> 00:19:42,146
these are my people,
497
00:19:42,215 --> 00:19:44,498
and there is far too much work
to do down here.
498
00:19:44,534 --> 00:19:46,684
If I leave
mississippi...
499
00:19:47,854 --> 00:19:50,004
...I leave them behind.
500
00:19:52,859 --> 00:19:59,530
♪♪
501
00:19:59,649 --> 00:20:06,304
♪♪
502
00:20:06,389 --> 00:20:13,094
♪♪
503
00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:14,412
willie reed?
504
00:20:15,865 --> 00:20:17,548
You're a hard one
to find.
505
00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:19,684
My name is mr. Sanders,
and I'm a district attorney
506
00:20:19,769 --> 00:20:21,919
in sunflower county.
507
00:20:22,005 --> 00:20:25,022
And I heard you know something
about that chicago boy.
508
00:20:25,108 --> 00:20:26,624
The boy from the papers?
509
00:20:26,693 --> 00:20:29,026
No, I don--
I don't know nothing, sir.
510
00:20:29,112 --> 00:20:30,728
Willie, these men here
just spent half a day
511
00:20:30,813 --> 00:20:33,130
trying to track you down.
512
00:20:33,216 --> 00:20:35,900
Now, I know you're not
gonna waste our time.
513
00:20:36,002 --> 00:20:38,719
Well, I-I think I seen him
514
00:20:38,755 --> 00:20:40,605
on the back of some truck.
515
00:20:41,741 --> 00:20:43,457
Whereabouts?
516
00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:46,727
Down by the sturdivant property.
Sir.
517
00:20:46,813 --> 00:20:48,746
That confirms it.
518
00:20:48,815 --> 00:20:49,947
If all goes
as it should,
519
00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:51,716
we'll be taking over
from tallahatchie county
520
00:20:51,784 --> 00:20:54,185
and you'll be called in
as a witness for the state.
521
00:20:54,304 --> 00:20:56,087
♪♪
522
00:20:56,155 --> 00:20:58,589
now, you understand
what that means?
523
00:20:58,675 --> 00:20:59,624
Yes, sir.
524
00:20:59,726 --> 00:21:01,192
Now, normally,
we'd be taking you in
525
00:21:01,277 --> 00:21:02,693
to give your
official statement,
526
00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:04,128
but we know tensions
are a little hot
527
00:21:04,213 --> 00:21:06,464
right now
amongst the negroes.
528
00:21:06,532 --> 00:21:08,599
So we've worked out a deal
with that doctor fella
529
00:21:08,701 --> 00:21:11,118
down in mound bayou.
530
00:21:11,154 --> 00:21:12,670
You heard of him?
531
00:21:12,755 --> 00:21:14,555
Dr. Howard.
Yes, sir.
532
00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:16,190
Well, he's offered up
his home if you feel
533
00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:17,875
the need for protection
during the trial.
534
00:21:17,944 --> 00:21:20,811
Well, what about
after the trial, sir?
535
00:21:20,897 --> 00:21:23,581
What are we supposed
to do then?
536
00:21:23,666 --> 00:21:26,284
Leave the questions
to me.
537
00:21:26,319 --> 00:21:28,252
Now, we're asking you to meet
out there at his place
538
00:21:28,354 --> 00:21:31,689
at 6:00 tonight
to give your statement,
539
00:21:31,808 --> 00:21:33,557
and we're asking you
to come willingly.
540
00:21:35,144 --> 00:21:36,978
But we're not
gonna ask twice.
541
00:21:37,063 --> 00:21:44,151
♪♪
542
00:21:44,237 --> 00:21:57,698
♪♪
mighty fine place
you have here, dr. Howard.
543
00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:00,318
I admit --
never seen a negro
544
00:22:00,386 --> 00:22:03,004
in such a home before.
545
00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,189
Not legally, anyway.
[ chuckles ]
546
00:22:06,259 --> 00:22:08,125
I think the folks
at the tax board
547
00:22:08,194 --> 00:22:09,493
must share
your astonishment,
548
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:11,862
considering how many times
I've been audited.
549
00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:16,567
But rest assured, gentlemen --
it all checks out.
550
00:22:16,669 --> 00:22:18,636
♪♪
551
00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:21,372
it's been
nearly an hour.
552
00:22:21,457 --> 00:22:22,556
[ sighs ] I don't think
they're coming.
553
00:22:22,642 --> 00:22:23,808
If we had taken them
into custody,
554
00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:25,476
this would've been
a whole lot simpler.
555
00:22:25,545 --> 00:22:27,078
If you had taken them
into custody,
556
00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:29,747
they never would've felt
safe enough to tell the truth
557
00:22:29,816 --> 00:22:31,482
the way they did with us.
558
00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:33,984
Do I need to remind you
folks our boys tracked down
559
00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:35,436
the witnesses
y'all failed to locate?
560
00:22:35,521 --> 00:22:36,937
You tracked them down
by threatening
561
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,489
and intimidating
the community
562
00:22:38,591 --> 00:22:39,924
that was trying
to keep them safe,
563
00:22:39,992 --> 00:22:41,525
and the only reason
they are not here now
564
00:22:41,627 --> 00:22:43,377
is because you
and your posse
565
00:22:43,429 --> 00:22:45,563
scared the living daylights
out of everyone.
566
00:22:45,648 --> 00:22:47,465
All the locals are saying
they thought you were fbi.
567
00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:48,833
She goes on talking
this way to me,
568
00:22:48,918 --> 00:22:50,735
we're gonna have
a problem.
569
00:22:50,853 --> 00:22:52,453
♪♪
570
00:22:52,538 --> 00:22:53,838
dr. Howard: Enough!
571
00:22:53,923 --> 00:22:56,741
♪♪
572
00:22:56,809 --> 00:22:59,593
we all want the same thing
here, don't we?
573
00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:02,546
♪♪
574
00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:04,682
we want these
witnesses to talk.
575
00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:07,918
We want the best possible chance
at a fair trial down here.
576
00:23:08,004 --> 00:23:09,253
And you, sheriff smith?
577
00:23:09,372 --> 00:23:11,021
The same thing.
578
00:23:11,107 --> 00:23:13,891
And we want the trial moved
out of strider's jurisdiction.
579
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,645
Then I'd say the answer
to my question is yes, correct?
580
00:23:17,697 --> 00:23:19,196
If the law says
the case is mine,
581
00:23:19,298 --> 00:23:21,549
then I want to win --
simple as that.
582
00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:23,434
Well, in order to win,
you need these witnesses
583
00:23:23,536 --> 00:23:24,502
to come forward.
584
00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:26,036
He's right, stanny.
585
00:23:26,105 --> 00:23:27,805
These witnesses have
a story to tell,
586
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,609
and we just need to make them
feel safe enough to tell it.
587
00:23:31,677 --> 00:23:35,262
And I think working together
is the best chance we've got.
588
00:23:35,348 --> 00:23:38,015
Even if it takes
all night.
589
00:23:38,117 --> 00:23:44,088
♪♪
590
00:23:44,190 --> 00:23:50,177
♪♪
591
00:23:50,229 --> 00:23:51,962
mandy, d--
592
00:23:52,031 --> 00:23:53,831
please, ma'am.
593
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,700
I was wrong about
what I said before, ma'am.
594
00:23:57,804 --> 00:23:59,253
I got confused.
595
00:23:59,305 --> 00:24:01,222
B-but I didn't
see nothing, I swear.
596
00:24:01,307 --> 00:24:02,440
[ stammers ]
597
00:24:02,525 --> 00:24:05,209
just give us
a minute, please.
598
00:24:05,294 --> 00:24:06,911
♪♪
599
00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:11,132
look, I said something to you
before that's been nagging me.
600
00:24:11,167 --> 00:24:12,966
I said that
if you spoke up,
601
00:24:13,019 --> 00:24:15,653
you'd be risking
your livelihood.
602
00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:18,289
Well, that was a-a stupid
thing for me to say,
603
00:24:18,391 --> 00:24:21,459
and I apologize, because
we both know damn well
604
00:24:21,544 --> 00:24:24,311
that you'd be risking a whole
hell of a lot more than that.
605
00:24:24,363 --> 00:24:27,848
You'd be risking
your life to testify.
606
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,816
I just want to keep
my family safe.
607
00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:31,135
I know, I know.
608
00:24:31,220 --> 00:24:33,904
And I promise you,
they will be.
609
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:36,623
We have all the resources
of the naacp
610
00:24:36,676 --> 00:24:39,109
and dr. Howard
to protect you --
611
00:24:39,178 --> 00:24:41,145
and not just during
the trial,
612
00:24:41,214 --> 00:24:42,580
but afterwards, too.
613
00:24:47,904 --> 00:24:50,254
I-I can't just
leave my granddaddy.
614
00:24:50,339 --> 00:24:52,122
Well, he could
go with you.
615
00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:54,792
A-and dr. Howard will provide
financial assistance
616
00:24:54,861 --> 00:24:56,376
until you can both
get on your feet up there.
617
00:24:56,429 --> 00:24:58,529
We don't need
no handout.
618
00:24:58,598 --> 00:25:00,548
Never have.
I work hard.
619
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,283
So does my grandson.
620
00:25:02,368 --> 00:25:04,935
He's just starting
to make his own way.
621
00:25:05,004 --> 00:25:07,855
So why would he want
to throw all that away
622
00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:09,957
by talking in court
about somethin'
623
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,309
that ain't none
of his business anyhow?
624
00:25:12,411 --> 00:25:14,912
Because if he speaks up
about what he saw,
625
00:25:15,014 --> 00:25:17,448
he can help change the way
things go around here for us.
626
00:25:17,550 --> 00:25:20,867
And you'll both be free
to start again in chicago.
627
00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:22,035
Free to make
a better life
628
00:25:22,138 --> 00:25:24,455
where you aren't
living like slaves.
629
00:25:27,043 --> 00:25:29,493
Ain't nothin' wrong with
the life we got here now.
630
00:25:29,595 --> 00:25:31,128
A life where you can't
speak the truth
631
00:25:31,197 --> 00:25:33,597
for fear of what will
happen to you after?
632
00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:36,000
What kind of life
is that?
633
00:25:36,085 --> 00:25:39,537
Now, I am telling you,
there is a better way,
634
00:25:39,622 --> 00:25:42,172
but it has to start
with all of us.
635
00:25:51,968 --> 00:25:53,284
Come in.
636
00:25:53,386 --> 00:25:55,319
Oh.
[ both chuckle ]
637
00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:57,454
I hear you missed dinner.
Is everything okay?
638
00:25:57,557 --> 00:25:59,924
Oh, I apologize.
639
00:26:00,026 --> 00:26:02,092
Time slipped away,
I suppose.
640
00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:03,176
It's my fault.
641
00:26:03,229 --> 00:26:05,396
I-I should've sent someone
to check on you.
642
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:07,881
It's been hard to get away
with all of the excitement
643
00:26:07,934 --> 00:26:09,466
trying to track down
those witnesses.
644
00:26:09,535 --> 00:26:10,951
Any progress?
645
00:26:11,003 --> 00:26:13,470
We shall see
in the morning.
646
00:26:13,539 --> 00:26:15,439
I hope I haven't
come off as rude.
647
00:26:15,541 --> 00:26:17,391
It's just, every time
I try to leave,
648
00:26:17,476 --> 00:26:20,511
the sky keeps
pulling me back in.
649
00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:23,447
It's not like this
in chicago.
Hmm.
650
00:26:23,549 --> 00:26:25,382
So many stars.
651
00:26:25,484 --> 00:26:27,518
Yeah.
652
00:26:27,587 --> 00:26:30,387
It makes me wonder if emmett
had a chance to see them.
653
00:26:30,473 --> 00:26:32,356
♪♪
654
00:26:32,425 --> 00:26:34,358
I want to believe he did.
655
00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:36,060
♪♪
656
00:26:36,128 --> 00:26:38,896
sounds like you're having
a hard time, though --
657
00:26:38,965 --> 00:26:40,598
believing.
658
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:42,032
I am.
659
00:26:43,736 --> 00:26:47,771
And I'm ashamed to say
that when I got here,
660
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,007
I was angry
at my uncle mose.
661
00:26:50,076 --> 00:26:51,342
I-I --
I couldn't say it,
662
00:26:51,410 --> 00:26:55,045
but I-I felt it
in the pit of my stomach,
663
00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:57,031
for him promising
to give emmett
664
00:26:57,083 --> 00:27:00,384
the summer camp
experience.
665
00:27:00,469 --> 00:27:01,785
And now?
666
00:27:03,306 --> 00:27:04,655
The anger's gone.
667
00:27:04,757 --> 00:27:06,523
♪♪
668
00:27:06,592 --> 00:27:08,575
I just -- I feel
so sorry for him,
669
00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:11,095
because he believed.
670
00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:15,833
He really thought he could
give that to my boy.
671
00:27:15,901 --> 00:27:19,503
Do you think it's possible
for a black boy in mississippi
672
00:27:19,605 --> 00:27:21,138
to see the stars?
673
00:27:21,207 --> 00:27:24,708
Well, if I didn't, I wouldn't be
fighting like I do.
674
00:27:24,777 --> 00:27:27,411
Fighting so that
the next generation
675
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,214
can live
without fear and...
676
00:27:30,282 --> 00:27:32,216
Be fully human.
677
00:27:32,284 --> 00:27:34,518
♪♪
678
00:27:34,587 --> 00:27:35,886
and see the stars.
679
00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:38,088
But what about now?
680
00:27:38,157 --> 00:27:39,440
Are men like uncle mose
681
00:27:39,492 --> 00:27:41,859
supposed to keep
living by the code?
682
00:27:41,961 --> 00:27:44,461
Suppressing their emotions
to get by?
683
00:27:44,547 --> 00:27:45,796
I mean, that's
no kind of life.
684
00:27:45,865 --> 00:27:47,197
Well, that's the life
he's always known.
685
00:27:47,266 --> 00:27:49,116
I don't know.
686
00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:52,136
♪♪
687
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:54,638
maybe white folks
down here...
688
00:27:54,707 --> 00:27:57,207
Don't think
we have feelings.
689
00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:59,810
♪♪
690
00:27:59,879 --> 00:28:03,447
if they did, how could they
treat us like they do?
691
00:28:03,566 --> 00:28:05,382
Mamie.
692
00:28:05,484 --> 00:28:07,584
You are showing them
that we do feel --
693
00:28:07,653 --> 00:28:11,155
that we hurt like them,
that we love like them.
694
00:28:11,223 --> 00:28:16,026
You opened that casket
so they'd see your pain.
695
00:28:16,095 --> 00:28:19,063
You showed up so they
could see your love.
696
00:28:19,165 --> 00:28:21,765
And what if
they're blind to it?
697
00:28:21,834 --> 00:28:24,368
You have more faith
than that.
698
00:28:24,453 --> 00:28:26,470
I used to think so.
699
00:28:27,907 --> 00:28:29,406
But the "code" will
serve uncle mose
700
00:28:29,492 --> 00:28:31,375
on the stand tomorrow.
701
00:28:31,444 --> 00:28:33,911
He will fall in line.
702
00:28:33,996 --> 00:28:35,879
I don't suppose every
black man down here
703
00:28:35,981 --> 00:28:38,515
could be as brave
as you are, dr. Howard.
704
00:28:38,601 --> 00:28:40,751
♪♪
705
00:28:40,836 --> 00:28:42,753
my means
have afforded me
706
00:28:42,872 --> 00:28:46,390
the privilege
of raising hell.
707
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:50,594
But I assure you,
mrs. Bradley,
708
00:28:50,663 --> 00:28:53,113
any witness who takes
that stand tomorrow
709
00:28:53,165 --> 00:28:55,349
is doing so knowing
that they are putting
710
00:28:55,384 --> 00:28:57,101
everything on the line.
711
00:28:57,203 --> 00:29:00,070
♪♪
712
00:29:00,139 --> 00:29:03,941
courage looks different
on every man.
713
00:29:04,026 --> 00:29:06,627
[ indistinct conversations ]
714
00:29:06,712 --> 00:29:12,966
♪♪
715
00:29:13,052 --> 00:29:19,306
♪♪
716
00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:21,258
oh, excuse me,
young man.
717
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,826
S-sorry, ma'am.
718
00:29:22,912 --> 00:29:24,178
That's quite alright.
719
00:29:24,213 --> 00:29:30,884
♪♪
720
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,437
I didn't see her.
I'm sorry.
721
00:29:33,556 --> 00:29:35,873
It's okay, simmy.
722
00:29:35,975 --> 00:29:38,709
♪♪
723
00:29:38,811 --> 00:29:40,861
it's okay, son.
724
00:29:40,913 --> 00:29:43,464
If they call me,
what are they gon' ask?
725
00:29:43,499 --> 00:29:46,183
What you saw that night
they took bobo -- that's all.
726
00:29:46,268 --> 00:29:48,952
After I tell them,
can I come home?
727
00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:53,807
When are things
gonna go back?
728
00:30:02,668 --> 00:30:05,135
They're not
going back, son.
729
00:30:06,572 --> 00:30:07,988
[ indistinct conversations ]
730
00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:14,628
♪♪
731
00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:21,301
♪♪
732
00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:27,991
♪♪
733
00:30:28,077 --> 00:30:30,978
[ sighs ] they've been
in there for ages.
734
00:30:31,013 --> 00:30:33,013
Chatham has to clear
each witness with the judge
735
00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,766
and the defense before
they can be admitted.
736
00:30:35,851 --> 00:30:37,201
Hopefully, they're just
being thorough.
737
00:30:37,303 --> 00:30:38,869
[ door opens ]
738
00:30:38,938 --> 00:30:46,026
♪♪
739
00:30:46,128 --> 00:30:53,199
♪♪
740
00:30:53,285 --> 00:31:00,357
♪♪
741
00:31:00,442 --> 00:31:02,092
[ door closes ]
742
00:31:03,879 --> 00:31:06,363
the court has made
a decision.
743
00:31:06,448 --> 00:31:07,497
The state
will be permitted
744
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:08,832
to call on these
new witnesses
745
00:31:08,901 --> 00:31:10,834
to present their testimony
to the jury tomorrow.
746
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,185
[ indistinct conversations ]
747
00:31:12,271 --> 00:31:14,705
but the trial will
remain in sumner.
748
00:31:14,807 --> 00:31:16,423
[ indistinct conversations ]
749
00:31:23,432 --> 00:31:25,282
I guess we're stuck
with sheriff strider.
750
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,918
Why isn't
the trial moving?
751
00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:30,537
I can only assume that the judge
didn't believe
752
00:31:30,623 --> 00:31:32,856
there was enough
evidence to prove
753
00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:35,141
that the murder occurred
on that plantation.
754
00:31:35,244 --> 00:31:36,693
But he's allowing them
to testify.
755
00:31:36,779 --> 00:31:39,579
Doesn't that mean
he finds them credible?
756
00:31:39,632 --> 00:31:41,381
He, uh, might
find it credible
757
00:31:41,433 --> 00:31:43,584
that emmett
was brought there,
758
00:31:43,619 --> 00:31:44,668
but what actually
happened there
759
00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:47,271
might require
more convincing.
760
00:31:47,373 --> 00:31:49,072
Either way, the fact
that the jury will get
761
00:31:49,141 --> 00:31:52,009
to hear from them at all
is still a big victory for us.
762
00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:55,679
[ gavel bangs ]
swango: This court
is now in session.
763
00:31:55,781 --> 00:31:57,547
The state may call
its first witness.
764
00:31:59,401 --> 00:32:01,618
Thank you, your honor.
765
00:32:01,704 --> 00:32:05,338
The state would like to call
to the stand mose wright.
766
00:32:05,424 --> 00:32:07,057
[ indistinct conversations ]
767
00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:11,111
[ door opens ]
768
00:32:11,196 --> 00:32:18,535
♪♪
769
00:32:18,621 --> 00:32:25,976
♪♪
770
00:32:26,078 --> 00:32:33,417
♪♪
771
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:45,746
♪♪
it was August 28th...
772
00:32:45,831 --> 00:32:48,415
At about 2:00
in the morning.
773
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:52,202
I woke up and heard someone
at the front door saying,
774
00:32:52,287 --> 00:32:53,870
"preacher, preacher."
775
00:32:53,956 --> 00:32:58,475
and when I got there,
I asked who it was.
776
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:01,345
He said,
"this is mr. Bryant,
777
00:33:01,447 --> 00:33:04,414
and I want to talk to you
and that boy."
778
00:33:04,533 --> 00:33:05,916
what did you do?
779
00:33:06,018 --> 00:33:07,818
Well, I got up,
780
00:33:07,886 --> 00:33:09,786
opened the door...
781
00:33:09,872 --> 00:33:11,922
And...
782
00:33:11,991 --> 00:33:15,225
Mr. Milam
was standing there
783
00:33:15,294 --> 00:33:17,027
with a pistol
in his right hand
784
00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:21,614
and a flashlight
in his left hand.
785
00:33:21,717 --> 00:33:23,000
Now, I want you
to stop right there
786
00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:25,686
for a minute,
uncle mose.
787
00:33:25,738 --> 00:33:29,006
I want you to point out
mr. Milam
788
00:33:29,124 --> 00:33:31,108
if you can see him
in here.
789
00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:39,966
There he is.
790
00:33:42,921 --> 00:33:45,672
[ spectators murmuring ]
791
00:33:48,227 --> 00:33:51,428
and do you see
mr. Bryant in here?
792
00:33:58,987 --> 00:34:03,056
Chatham: Now...
After you opened the door,
793
00:34:03,142 --> 00:34:04,841
what happened next?
794
00:34:04,910 --> 00:34:07,794
Well, mr. Milam said,
795
00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,113
"I want that boy that done all
the talkin' down at money."
796
00:34:10,232 --> 00:34:11,815
and what did you do?
797
00:34:11,884 --> 00:34:13,784
We went to a bedroom,
798
00:34:13,852 --> 00:34:17,921
and we found emmett
and simeon in there.
799
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:21,324
And, uh, mr. Milam
told him to get up,
800
00:34:21,410 --> 00:34:24,061
so they got up and dressed,
and they started out.
801
00:34:24,129 --> 00:34:25,796
And what happened
after that?
802
00:34:25,864 --> 00:34:28,481
Mr. Milam asked me,
"how old are you?"
803
00:34:28,584 --> 00:34:29,666
I said 64.
804
00:34:29,768 --> 00:34:33,170
He said, "well...If you know
805
00:34:33,288 --> 00:34:35,172
any of us here tonight,
806
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:39,643
then you will never live
to get to be 65."
807
00:34:39,711 --> 00:34:41,711
[ spectators murmuring ]
808
00:34:45,217 --> 00:34:48,985
and then, did they leave
your house with emmett till?
809
00:34:49,071 --> 00:34:50,120
Yes, sir.
810
00:34:50,189 --> 00:34:51,755
What, if anything,
did you see
811
00:34:51,824 --> 00:34:54,224
when mr. Milam
and mr. Bryant
812
00:34:54,309 --> 00:34:56,226
took emmett out
in front of your house?
813
00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:59,196
I saw a truck headed off
toward money.
814
00:34:59,264 --> 00:35:01,665
Before mr. Milam
and mr. Bryant
815
00:35:01,767 --> 00:35:03,116
got to the truck
with emmett till,
816
00:35:03,202 --> 00:35:04,450
did you hear them
make any statement
817
00:35:04,553 --> 00:35:06,603
or ask anyone
any question?
818
00:35:06,688 --> 00:35:07,604
I sure did.
819
00:35:07,673 --> 00:35:10,340
They asked
if this is the boy,
820
00:35:10,409 --> 00:35:12,109
and someone said yes.
821
00:35:12,227 --> 00:35:14,744
Hmm.
822
00:35:14,813 --> 00:35:18,465
Was that a man's voice
you heard
823
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:20,600
or a lady's voice
you heard?
824
00:35:20,652 --> 00:35:23,503
Well, I-it seemed lighter
than a man's voice.
825
00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:26,556
Did you say it seemed
like a louder voice?
826
00:35:26,658 --> 00:35:29,426
Lighter.
Lighter voice.
827
00:35:31,663 --> 00:35:36,133
Now, I want you to tell
the court and the jury,
828
00:35:36,218 --> 00:35:37,467
when was the next time --
829
00:35:37,586 --> 00:35:39,719
after emmett till was taken
from your house --
830
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:42,455
that you saw either him
or his body?
831
00:35:45,110 --> 00:35:48,495
I saw his body when he was
taken out of the river.
832
00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:50,380
I want you
to tell the jury
833
00:35:50,449 --> 00:35:53,917
whether or not you could
tell whose body it was.
834
00:35:54,036 --> 00:35:55,185
Yes, sir.
835
00:35:57,122 --> 00:35:58,488
It was emmett till.
836
00:35:58,574 --> 00:36:00,841
[ spectators murmuring ]
837
00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:02,559
now, when you first
saw the body,
838
00:36:02,661 --> 00:36:03,843
did you notice
whether or not
839
00:36:03,946 --> 00:36:07,447
the undertaker took a ring
off of emmett's finger?
840
00:36:07,549 --> 00:36:09,533
Yes, sir, he sure did.
841
00:36:17,192 --> 00:36:19,292
Is this the ring that
the undertaker took off
842
00:36:19,378 --> 00:36:22,345
of emmett's finger
that morning?
843
00:36:22,431 --> 00:36:23,914
Yes, sir, it is.
844
00:36:35,644 --> 00:36:37,494
No further questions,
your honor.
845
00:36:39,581 --> 00:36:41,865
Mose, when the two men came
to your house that night,
846
00:36:41,934 --> 00:36:44,467
as you say, was anybody else
with them at that time?
847
00:36:44,570 --> 00:36:45,602
Yes, sir.
848
00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:47,971
There was a man who stood
by the screen door.
849
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,806
And how
was he standing?
850
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:52,976
[ stammers ] he was, uh,
standin' kind of with his --
851
00:36:53,045 --> 00:36:56,179
his head down,
like this here -- peering.
852
00:36:56,248 --> 00:36:57,981
He was trying to hide,
it looked like.
853
00:36:58,050 --> 00:36:59,249
In other words, you think
he was trying to hide
854
00:36:59,334 --> 00:37:00,383
to keep you
from seeing him?
855
00:37:00,452 --> 00:37:01,585
Yes, sir, that's right.
856
00:37:01,653 --> 00:37:03,486
And I believe you said
before that you thought
857
00:37:03,572 --> 00:37:04,537
he was a colored man.
858
00:37:04,623 --> 00:37:05,589
Is that right?
Yes, sir.
859
00:37:05,674 --> 00:37:07,307
He -- he acted
like a colored man.
860
00:37:07,392 --> 00:37:09,659
[ laughter ]
861
00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:18,635
now, you say mr. Milam had
a flashlight in his hand.
862
00:37:18,754 --> 00:37:20,036
Where was that
flashlight pointed?
863
00:37:20,105 --> 00:37:22,188
It was out like this
at me.
864
00:37:22,241 --> 00:37:24,424
And, uh, did you ever have
any lights turned on
865
00:37:24,459 --> 00:37:25,825
in your house while
those men were in there?
866
00:37:25,911 --> 00:37:28,011
No, sir.
Hmm.
867
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,248
And did mr. Milam ever shine
the light in his own face?
868
00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:33,683
No, but I could see
from the light.
869
00:37:33,752 --> 00:37:36,886
You know how it will shine out
from the side like that?
870
00:37:40,142 --> 00:37:41,941
Ah.
871
00:37:42,194 --> 00:37:46,229
Mose, uh, y-you talked to me
over at my office last week,
872
00:37:46,315 --> 00:37:47,397
is that right?
That's right.
873
00:37:47,516 --> 00:37:49,783
Is it a fact, mose,
that on that day
874
00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:52,269
you told me and my colleagues
that you thought
875
00:37:52,354 --> 00:37:54,738
this was mr. Milam
in your house that night
876
00:37:54,806 --> 00:37:58,758
because he was a big man
with a bald head?
877
00:37:58,844 --> 00:37:59,943
That's right, sir.
878
00:38:00,028 --> 00:38:01,745
And the first time
that you ever saw him
879
00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:03,196
was when they came into
this courtroom,
880
00:38:03,282 --> 00:38:04,347
isn't that right?
881
00:38:04,433 --> 00:38:06,650
No, I-I-I knew them
from that night, sir.
882
00:38:06,752 --> 00:38:08,601
But the only reason you say
you know him now
883
00:38:08,654 --> 00:38:11,304
because the man at your house
had a bald head,
884
00:38:11,390 --> 00:38:13,973
isn't that right?
885
00:38:14,026 --> 00:38:18,545
No, I-I-I knowed his face
a-and his stature.
886
00:38:20,165 --> 00:38:23,099
I knowed his face just like
I see him sitting there now.
887
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:27,187
You changed your story,
haven't you?
888
00:38:29,574 --> 00:38:30,623
They was at my house.
889
00:38:30,659 --> 00:38:31,991
No, the only thing you saw
at your house,
890
00:38:32,044 --> 00:38:36,980
the only man you saw was
bald-headed, isn't that right?
891
00:38:37,082 --> 00:38:39,182
Well...
892
00:38:39,301 --> 00:38:40,684
No.
893
00:38:40,769 --> 00:38:43,436
I-I mean,
yes, that's right.
894
00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:45,322
And isn't it a fact
that you told me
895
00:38:45,424 --> 00:38:46,673
and these
other gentlemen here
896
00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:48,274
that you saw mr. Milam
in the newspaper
897
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,927
before you
saw him in the courtroom?
898
00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:52,162
I don't remember
saying that.
899
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:54,464
Do you deny
saying that to me?
900
00:38:54,533 --> 00:38:56,483
I don't remember.
[ clears throat ]
901
00:38:56,535 --> 00:38:59,285
mose, did you ever see the light
shining in the face
902
00:38:59,338 --> 00:39:01,971
of the man you say
identified himself
903
00:39:02,057 --> 00:39:04,374
as mr. Bryant that night?
904
00:39:04,459 --> 00:39:05,375
No, sir.
905
00:39:05,494 --> 00:39:08,094
Had you ever seen him
before that?
906
00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:09,245
Not to know him.
907
00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:10,980
Have you ever
been in his store?
908
00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:12,182
I never have.
909
00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:13,866
And the first time you ever
saw mr. Bryant
910
00:39:13,969 --> 00:39:16,419
was in the courtroom
this week, wasn't it?
911
00:39:16,505 --> 00:39:19,589
The first time I ever
saw his face, that's right.
912
00:39:19,658 --> 00:39:23,476
Now, mose, the only
reason you identified
that man as mr. Bryant
913
00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:26,830
is due to the fact
that he said he was mr. Bryant.
914
00:39:26,898 --> 00:39:29,165
Isn't that right?
915
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:30,400
That's right.
916
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:34,604
Now, let's, uh --
let's go on up there...
917
00:39:37,292 --> 00:39:41,411
...To the morning
on the river, mose.
918
00:39:43,448 --> 00:39:46,332
Isn't it a fact that you
only identified the body
919
00:39:46,385 --> 00:39:48,101
as that of emmett till's
920
00:39:48,186 --> 00:39:50,220
because it didn't have
any whiskers?
921
00:39:50,288 --> 00:39:52,122
And so you figured it was
the body of a child,
922
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:54,724
and since
emmett had gone missing,
923
00:39:54,843 --> 00:39:57,227
you just assumed
it was him.
924
00:39:57,312 --> 00:39:59,112
I never mentioned
no missing.
925
00:39:59,214 --> 00:40:02,048
Mose, do you deny that
you made this statement?
926
00:40:02,134 --> 00:40:03,233
No, I did not say it.
927
00:40:03,301 --> 00:40:04,284
You did not
make that statement?
928
00:40:04,369 --> 00:40:06,803
No!
I did not make it!
929
00:40:06,922 --> 00:40:22,202
♪♪
930
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,913
I'm so sorry.
931
00:40:34,015 --> 00:40:36,783
They got me so flustered
up there.
932
00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:39,319
Made a fool of me.
Don't apologize.
933
00:40:39,404 --> 00:40:41,754
Mamie?
For anything.
934
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:52,348
They're not gonna call
simmy to testify.
935
00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:54,317
Did mr. Chatham say
why he changed his mind?
936
00:40:54,402 --> 00:41:00,256
No, and I-I know
I shouldn't be relieved, but...
937
00:41:00,342 --> 00:41:02,142
If they'd gone at him the way
they went at me,
938
00:41:02,227 --> 00:41:04,327
I'd have
full-out lost it.
939
00:41:04,396 --> 00:41:08,948
They tried to tear you down
and keep you small.
940
00:41:09,034 --> 00:41:12,685
That could've broken any man,
but it didn't break you.
941
00:41:12,771 --> 00:41:14,053
Not today.
942
00:41:14,139 --> 00:41:16,573
Not in the 60-somethin' years
leading up to this day.
943
00:41:16,691 --> 00:41:18,258
[ chuckles ]
944
00:41:18,343 --> 00:41:24,731
when you stood up to them,
you stood up for emmett.
945
00:41:24,783 --> 00:41:28,084
What you did in there
took courage.
946
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:32,805
Well, I spent my whole life
with my head down,
947
00:41:32,908 --> 00:41:35,024
only looking up
when I was talking to god.
948
00:41:35,110 --> 00:41:38,895
♪♪
949
00:41:38,964 --> 00:41:40,680
but I'm starting
to think
950
00:41:40,765 --> 00:41:44,584
that the sky
is just too beautiful...
951
00:41:44,619 --> 00:41:46,336
Not to keep my head up.
952
00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:53,359
♪♪
953
00:41:53,445 --> 00:42:00,433
♪♪
954
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:03,036
it ain't easy
looking up.
955
00:42:03,121 --> 00:42:05,004
I know.
956
00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:07,040
I know that now.
957
00:42:07,125 --> 00:42:08,825
I do.
958
00:42:08,927 --> 00:42:10,393
I'm gonna try.
959
00:42:10,495 --> 00:42:15,999
♪♪
960
00:42:16,084 --> 00:42:20,520
you promise me...
That you do the same
961
00:42:20,605 --> 00:42:23,089
when you're up there
on that stand tomorrow.
962
00:42:23,191 --> 00:42:26,042
♪♪
963
00:42:26,161 --> 00:42:28,127
you hear me?
964
00:42:28,163 --> 00:42:29,746
I'll try.
965
00:42:29,831 --> 00:42:45,128
♪♪
966
00:42:46,982 --> 00:42:55,405
♪♪
967
00:42:55,507 --> 00:43:04,013
♪♪
968
00:43:04,099 --> 00:43:12,638
♪♪
969
00:43:12,741 --> 00:43:21,197
♪♪
970
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:29,806
♪♪
971
00:43:29,908 --> 00:43:38,414
♪♪
972
00:43:38,516 --> 00:43:54,464
♪♪