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I think one of the things that we
don't talk about as black creatives often

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is how much we seek...

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white validation to bring back
to the black community

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so the black community can accept us.

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Just jumping around,
hanging out on the ceiling,

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waiting on my next guest,

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Mr. Kerby Jean-Raymond,

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who's the creative director for Pyer Moss.

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He's one of those people that uses

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fashion as his medium

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as he makes his artwork.

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Kind of like me using flowers

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as my medium for artwork.

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- Welcome to "Centerpiece."
- What's up? Make myself comfortable.

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Please do.

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You just go straight into, like,
laying down.

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Beautiful chair, though.

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- Right?
- Beautiful chair, beautiful chair.

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- Ease into it.
- Yeah.

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And now
let's take a journey to the center.

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There's something that, like,
I want you to talk about,

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which is, like,
how you've navigated your own access

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and how you try to share that access
with others.

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Pyer Moss is one
of the few brands that, like, actually

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goes out of its way
to create safe spaces for black people.

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It's also
to usher in a whole new wave of designers

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that look and feel like you and I.

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Till I see, like, a plethora of creatives

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that look, feel, and talk this way
and are also ushering other people,

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it's not safe for me to leave.

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You seem like a very
in-tuned, sensitive, grounded...

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...person.

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Have you always been that way?

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You know, in 2016,
somebody very close to me,

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I watched pass away.

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I had always avoided death,
'cause I never went to my mom's funeral.

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You know what I mean? I never knew
because my family hid it from me, so...

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I dealt with everybody's death
in the sense of,

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I didn't go to my mom's funeral,
so why should I go to yours?

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I had to clean up my own act,
and, like, really, like,

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start to appreciate life
and stop feeling so entitled

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to happiness.

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Happiness is something
that you have to work for.

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it's something you have to earn.

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Where do you go
to source your inspiration?

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A lot of our inspiration
comes from, like, historical stories.

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So, like, for the past three collections
we've done,

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they've been called "American Also."

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The American flag, for a lot of us,
feels like something

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that's, like, not ours.

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So we focused
on things that were traditionally

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American populist,
like, pop-culture items,

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like the cowboy,

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the American family, rock and roll,

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and showed how they're actually black.

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- Yeah. Yeah.
- I love that.

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I love everything about that.

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And now let's go deep.

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Here we go.

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Get back into my therapy pose.
Yeah, this is very important.

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British Knights or "Boogie Nights?"

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British Knights.

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Jean-Michel Basquiat
or Jean-Paul Gaultier?

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Basquiat.

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Reeboks with the straps
or Reeboks with the pump?

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Straps.

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"Fresh Prince of Bel Air"
or "Family Matters"?

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"Fresh Prince" all day.

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And, lastly, most importantly...

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Who knows,
this may be happening, it may not.

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We don't know.

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But if I were to go to the Met Gala,
how would you dress me?

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The theme is time,
and it revolves around Virginia Woolf,

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who has displayed

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lots of racism in her writings
and her actions,

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and I would be counterculture
as it pertains to her,

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and that's as far as I can say.

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But I'll see you there.

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Perfect.

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Girl, it's time to process.

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My boy Kerby had to master
the rules of fashion

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in order to be able to subvert them.

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He reclaimed what it's meant
to be an American designer

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as a black man
with his own deep-rooted traditions.

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My centerpiece for Kerby pays tribute
to an artist

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who stands proudly and beautifully
in his chocolate skin

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and knows how
to turn some shit upside down.

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Was one of the most inspiring interviews
that I think I've had

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as a small business
trying to grow what I'm doing

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and trying to do, like...

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You're actually building something.

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Thank you for your grace,
your beauty, your excellence.

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Cue the curtain!

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Join me.

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Amazing.

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So the idea around this...

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...is centered around

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your ability to take a traditional medium

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and, like, put it in your own hands
and make it

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- black as hell...
- Yeah.

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...and make it you as hell

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And just to literally turn that
on its head is, like...

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I wanted the floor to be dirt,

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because I feel like you're rooted,
you're grounded.

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You keep it raw, actually,

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which is, like, so bomb.

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When I look at how you use color,

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it's, like, bold but sophisticated
and refined.

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The reason why I use yellow so much
in the collection

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is because it's my mom's favorite color.

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It's almost the exact same shade
of, like, saffron.

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- I love this. This is amazing.
- Yeah.

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- So...
- How do I get this on the plane?

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We have another surprise for you, though.

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Okay.

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When I heard about

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the Pyer Moss Tabernacle Drip Choir
Drenched in the Blood of Jesus,

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I was like, "Well, I've got a root.

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My sister's got a root."

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And I think we would like to audition

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for the choir, if you would allow us.

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Go ahead.

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Nobody knows

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The trouble I see

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Nobody knows

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Try it, Jazz!

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Kerby and his team

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- Out here dripping in the sauce
- Hot sauce!

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These haters and these hustlers
don't be wanted, get lost

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- Bye!
- We do it for the culture

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- That's all facts and no pretend
- Fake asshole!

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Pyer Moss is a brand, and he getting...

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Hey, you see us now?

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Do you see us now? Hey!

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You see us now?

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Do you see us now? Hey!

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You see us now?

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Do you see us now? Hey!

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I want to commend you,
because your Milly rock was sturdy.

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Thank you very much.

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Your rap was original.
I heard the shout-outs.

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I just think you do this really well.

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Yeah. And I think the world would miss you

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if you were to come over
to the Drip Choir.

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But I love you guys.

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And cut.