1 00:00:25,611 --> 00:00:28,571 [gentle, somber music] 2 00:00:45,022 --> 00:00:48,069 [Tom] As it's happening, you're thinking something's wrong, 3 00:00:48,112 --> 00:00:49,809 but you don't face right up to it 4 00:00:49,853 --> 00:00:51,855 because either you don't care or you don't want to know. 5 00:00:55,598 --> 00:00:59,428 [man] The damage done to the community and families, 6 00:00:59,471 --> 00:01:01,343 it'll last for a generation. 7 00:01:04,259 --> 00:01:06,391 [John Marchese] It was a great dream. 8 00:01:06,435 --> 00:01:08,219 It was a beautiful dream. 9 00:01:11,353 --> 00:01:13,181 [Richie] I was thinking I was going to become the next, uh, 10 00:01:13,224 --> 00:01:15,139 I don't know, Paul Newman or something. 11 00:01:15,183 --> 00:01:17,098 I thought I'd be in the country. I wanted to live like that. 12 00:01:17,141 --> 00:01:20,927 Why? Read my scripts, turned out to be nothing but a disaster. 13 00:01:23,452 --> 00:01:26,542 [Jocelyne] At first, there is only two sides to the story. 14 00:01:28,152 --> 00:01:30,067 And then there are so many sides, 15 00:01:30,111 --> 00:01:32,113 you don't know where the truth, where the lies are. 16 00:01:33,505 --> 00:01:35,203 And it's get very confusing. 17 00:01:37,118 --> 00:01:38,380 But the truth is somewhere. 18 00:02:24,948 --> 00:02:29,039 [light upbeat rock music] 19 00:02:34,262 --> 00:02:35,698 [engine hums] 20 00:02:41,094 --> 00:02:43,009 [Zac] I grew up in Narrowsburg, New York. 21 00:02:43,053 --> 00:02:45,273 It 's a very small town in the upper Delaware. 22 00:02:45,316 --> 00:02:49,015 It 's actually a hamlet and it's one block long, 23 00:02:49,059 --> 00:02:54,020 post office, bank, Chinese restaurant, pizza place. 24 00:02:56,284 --> 00:02:58,677 My life sort of centered around Main Street... 25 00:03:00,592 --> 00:03:03,552 which is nice and also stifling when you're a kid. 26 00:03:03,595 --> 00:03:05,031 [engine rumbles] 27 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:11,124 [water rushes] 28 00:03:17,130 --> 00:03:19,611 -[Tom] The car looks nice in the sun, don't it? -[Cecilia] Yeah. 29 00:03:19,655 --> 00:03:20,743 [Tom] Nice and bright. 30 00:03:22,310 --> 00:03:25,356 [Cecilia] It's a quaint friendly town. 31 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,836 Where everybody knows everybody. 32 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:28,229 Everybody knows everybody. 33 00:03:28,272 --> 00:03:29,708 You walk into the coffee shop 34 00:03:29,752 --> 00:03:31,536 and everybody says good morning 35 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:33,103 whether they know you or not. 36 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:38,108 If you don't recognize someone, 37 00:03:38,151 --> 00:03:39,936 that's the stranger thing 38 00:03:39,979 --> 00:03:41,677 other than what you do. [chuckles] 39 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,680 -[dark playful music] -[projector whirs] 40 00:04:02,045 --> 00:04:04,308 [John Marchese] When Richie and Jocelyne first showed up, 41 00:04:05,178 --> 00:04:08,530 it was like some people from outer space 42 00:04:08,573 --> 00:04:10,619 had landed in Narrowsburg. 43 00:04:11,663 --> 00:04:12,925 Are you new in town? 44 00:04:13,361 --> 00:04:14,492 [Richie] Could be. 45 00:04:16,277 --> 00:04:18,757 [John Marchese] They were Hollywood people 46 00:04:18,801 --> 00:04:23,022 and they were like these busy bees of self-promotion 47 00:04:23,066 --> 00:04:25,721 and publicity for themselves. 48 00:04:25,764 --> 00:04:28,114 Hi, how are you? So, my name is Richard Castellano. 49 00:04:28,158 --> 00:04:29,377 I like this beautiful woman I'm with. 50 00:04:29,420 --> 00:04:30,769 Don't look, huh? 51 00:04:31,727 --> 00:04:33,294 Here's Jocelyne. 52 00:04:34,947 --> 00:04:36,166 -[Richie smooches] -[Jocelyne giggles] 53 00:04:36,209 --> 00:04:37,428 [Cecilia] I think I met them first. 54 00:04:37,472 --> 00:04:39,082 They came into the store 55 00:04:39,125 --> 00:04:40,823 and they were looking to buy a gun. 56 00:04:41,911 --> 00:04:44,305 They talked that they had just moved up to the area. 57 00:04:44,348 --> 00:04:45,654 They bought a house. 58 00:04:46,219 --> 00:04:48,091 You could tell right away he was from Brooklyn. 59 00:04:48,134 --> 00:04:51,355 I mean, he had this real thick New York accent. 60 00:04:51,964 --> 00:04:56,099 [John Marchese] Richie talked about being a hitman for the mob. 61 00:04:56,795 --> 00:04:59,320 He would come in to the Chatterbox Cafe 62 00:04:59,363 --> 00:05:02,801 and it was like he had purchased the Chatterbox. 63 00:05:02,845 --> 00:05:04,629 He would walk and, "Hey, how are you doing? 64 00:05:04,673 --> 00:05:06,805 Hey, yo, how is everybody? How is everybody?" [mumbles] 65 00:05:06,849 --> 00:05:08,720 He would just get his own coffee. 66 00:05:08,764 --> 00:05:10,374 He wouldn't pay for it. 67 00:05:10,418 --> 00:05:11,984 He would wave to everybody. 68 00:05:12,028 --> 00:05:13,508 And he would walk out. 69 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,511 [Tom] Right away, he got to know everybody. 70 00:05:16,554 --> 00:05:19,557 -He was one of us, you know, one of the community. -He was never awkward. 71 00:05:19,601 --> 00:05:22,386 It was like he'd been here all his life. 72 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,348 [upbeat, rhythmic music] 73 00:05:27,391 --> 00:05:32,091 The first time I heard about Richie is like 1998. 74 00:05:32,135 --> 00:05:34,442 I was probably 14 or 15 at the time. 75 00:05:34,485 --> 00:05:36,226 And I remember hearing that he was going to be 76 00:05:36,269 --> 00:05:37,445 in this movie called Analyze This 77 00:05:37,488 --> 00:05:38,402 with Robert De Niro. 78 00:05:39,882 --> 00:05:41,623 I watched the screening and then the lights came up 79 00:05:41,666 --> 00:05:43,320 and there he was standing there. 80 00:05:43,886 --> 00:05:46,236 It was incredible that he was here in this small town 81 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,805 and there he was, and I've just seen him in a movie. 82 00:05:49,848 --> 00:05:51,720 [man hums] 83 00:05:51,763 --> 00:05:53,025 [bangs] 84 00:05:54,549 --> 00:05:56,464 -[car trunk thuds] -What are you, some kind of moron? 85 00:05:57,029 --> 00:05:59,075 [Zac] It was probably soon after that that I heard that 86 00:05:59,118 --> 00:06:00,729 Jocelyne was going to start a film festival. 87 00:06:00,772 --> 00:06:02,165 That was sort of what she did. 88 00:06:02,208 --> 00:06:04,907 And they had big plans for Narrowsburg. 89 00:06:05,473 --> 00:06:06,909 They were going to put it on the map. 90 00:06:14,786 --> 00:06:16,701 [forklift beeps] 91 00:06:18,964 --> 00:06:21,097 Oh, yeah, it was topic of the conversation, yeah, 92 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:25,144 properly made the barbershop, um, post office, all the big spots, yeah. 93 00:06:25,797 --> 00:06:28,452 Yeah, and it was a big deal for a small town to, 94 00:06:28,496 --> 00:06:30,149 to have a legitimate film festival. 95 00:06:33,588 --> 00:06:36,765 This is a nice place to live but a hard place to make a living. 96 00:06:37,896 --> 00:06:39,811 And most of the people that make a living here 97 00:06:39,855 --> 00:06:43,685 have two or three jobs or drive 40, 50 miles one way to work. 98 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:48,516 We saw what happened in Sundance and other places 99 00:06:48,559 --> 00:06:50,779 that had film festivals and we thought, 100 00:06:50,822 --> 00:06:52,345 you know, why not here? 101 00:06:52,389 --> 00:06:54,957 I wanted to be an actor. That was sort of my deal. 102 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,525 And here I am growing up in this super small town, 103 00:06:57,568 --> 00:06:59,135 this guy comes, 104 00:06:59,178 --> 00:07:00,876 what are the chances that this is happening? 105 00:07:00,919 --> 00:07:03,313 Like, this is crazy, like, this is my big break. 106 00:07:12,496 --> 00:07:14,106 I remember Richie and Jocelyne 107 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:16,195 came to my mom's house for dinner. 108 00:07:17,153 --> 00:07:18,676 They got there and I remember, 109 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,331 I remember looking out the driveway, 110 00:07:21,374 --> 00:07:22,680 "They're here, they're here, they're here!" 111 00:07:22,724 --> 00:07:24,987 You know, I'm very excited about this. 112 00:07:25,030 --> 00:07:28,077 I'm this young kid and I really want to, like, get this guy to like me. 113 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,472 I'm running around, I'm whatever complimenting him. 114 00:07:33,169 --> 00:07:36,781 Richie was like The Music Mancomes to town 115 00:07:36,825 --> 00:07:38,870 making people excited about something. 116 00:07:42,352 --> 00:07:43,527 Folks, listen! 117 00:07:43,571 --> 00:07:45,224 I'm Professor Harold Hill. 118 00:07:45,747 --> 00:07:48,576 And I'm here to organize the River City boys band. 119 00:07:49,272 --> 00:07:51,535 [Zac] I think he liked making people feel good. 120 00:07:51,579 --> 00:07:55,800 I think he liked telling people that they were going to be a big star. 121 00:07:55,844 --> 00:07:57,019 It was like when he would talk, 122 00:07:57,062 --> 00:07:58,760 it just seemed possible 123 00:07:58,803 --> 00:08:00,544 whatever he was talking about. 124 00:08:00,588 --> 00:08:02,328 And, and if you can be around that, 125 00:08:02,372 --> 00:08:04,548 I mean, that's a nice thing to be around, 126 00:08:04,592 --> 00:08:08,900 especially in a small town where not a lot seems possible. 127 00:08:09,988 --> 00:08:12,904 He really made you believe that you were going to be something. 128 00:08:12,948 --> 00:08:14,384 You could do anything. 129 00:08:16,038 --> 00:08:17,518 And the first thing you were going to do is be in this movie 130 00:08:17,561 --> 00:08:18,693 that was going to get shot. 131 00:08:19,607 --> 00:08:21,347 The way he pitched the story was a movie 132 00:08:21,391 --> 00:08:25,961 about a guy who tries to get out of a gangster world, 133 00:08:26,004 --> 00:08:29,530 and move upstate to a small town with his son. 134 00:08:30,574 --> 00:08:33,490 Gangsters from the city follow him up there 135 00:08:33,534 --> 00:08:35,318 and kill his wife. 136 00:08:35,361 --> 00:08:38,626 And then somehow he gets charged with the murder 137 00:08:38,669 --> 00:08:39,931 and ends up in jail. 138 00:08:40,802 --> 00:08:42,891 And, and everyone's after his son. 139 00:08:45,067 --> 00:08:46,764 The most important thing about the pitch 140 00:08:46,808 --> 00:08:49,506 was that it's all going to take place in Narrowsburg 141 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:51,160 and is going to put the city on the map. 142 00:08:52,248 --> 00:08:53,771 This was an opportunity. 143 00:08:53,815 --> 00:08:55,773 You know, I was going to get in that movie. 144 00:08:55,817 --> 00:08:58,384 I mean, there was no question in my mind. 145 00:09:00,865 --> 00:09:03,912 And I started, like, hanging out in the office with him 146 00:09:03,955 --> 00:09:05,870 and Jocelyne and everyone. 147 00:09:06,523 --> 00:09:08,960 Richie was like, "Joss, why aren't you-- 148 00:09:09,004 --> 00:09:10,527 you should be paying this kid." 149 00:09:10,571 --> 00:09:12,007 Like, "This kid's here all the time," 150 00:09:12,050 --> 00:09:13,791 like, "you got to pay him something." 151 00:09:14,357 --> 00:09:16,533 -[man] I'm going ahead, Jeff. -[man 2] Good morning, Jocelyne. 152 00:09:16,577 --> 00:09:18,970 -[man] What, moving up already? -[woman] Look what you've found. 153 00:09:20,189 --> 00:09:21,494 [man] I know nothing yet. 154 00:09:21,538 --> 00:09:23,018 [Zac] Jocelyne... 155 00:09:23,061 --> 00:09:25,281 was just sort of around in the background. 156 00:09:25,847 --> 00:09:28,414 And they were like a good couple. They seemed like a good couple. 157 00:09:31,026 --> 00:09:33,463 Jocelyne was, according to reputation, 158 00:09:33,506 --> 00:09:36,814 this woman who had run the Hollywood film festival. 159 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:40,426 And now she was going to bring Hollywood 160 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:42,690 to this little town of Narrowsburg. 161 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:48,739 The only thing I ever knew about her was she was from France. 162 00:09:48,783 --> 00:09:51,220 No, she was actually from South Africa 163 00:09:51,263 --> 00:09:52,787 -she told me at one time. -Was it? 164 00:09:52,830 --> 00:09:54,179 -Well, I know she had-- -Or I found out later on 165 00:09:54,223 --> 00:09:55,833 she was from South Africa. 166 00:09:55,877 --> 00:09:57,661 -She told me France. -But she sounded like she-- 167 00:09:57,705 --> 00:09:59,837 okay, well, she sounded like, 168 00:09:59,881 --> 00:10:01,578 to me, like, she was French. 169 00:10:01,622 --> 00:10:03,711 But I heard she was from South Africa somehow. 170 00:10:04,276 --> 00:10:06,278 [laughs] You're doing good with that. 171 00:10:06,322 --> 00:10:09,891 [interviewer] Can you first of all just tell us your name? 172 00:10:09,934 --> 00:10:12,284 Okay, should I say it in French or in English? 173 00:10:12,328 --> 00:10:15,287 Should I work, I mean, um, the accent, 174 00:10:15,331 --> 00:10:17,072 because now I'm in between the both accents, 175 00:10:17,115 --> 00:10:19,509 so how do you want me to say my name? 176 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:21,598 In American way, a French way? 177 00:10:21,642 --> 00:10:25,036 -[interviewer] However you feel more comfortable. -Okay. 178 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,040 My name is Marie Jocelyne Plante. I was born, I was born Plante 179 00:10:29,084 --> 00:10:32,348 and in a small island called Reunion Island. 180 00:10:33,001 --> 00:10:34,698 It's a very small community. 181 00:10:34,742 --> 00:10:36,744 Everyone know each other. 182 00:10:36,787 --> 00:10:39,137 Uh, I wanted to establish my own rules, you know, 183 00:10:39,181 --> 00:10:43,489 and, and to be free to think and to do what I wanted to do 184 00:10:43,533 --> 00:10:46,014 and to think for myself, you know, so. 185 00:10:46,057 --> 00:10:48,625 [light, gentle music] 186 00:10:50,671 --> 00:10:52,760 I knew it was a world out there. 187 00:10:55,023 --> 00:10:56,938 When I was young, I love Western, 188 00:10:56,981 --> 00:11:01,682 I love cowboys movies, cowboys, the cowgirls, the open space. 189 00:11:03,248 --> 00:11:05,598 -Is it a pretty place, Steve? -Uh-huh. 190 00:11:05,642 --> 00:11:06,948 It's the old Jamison place, 191 00:11:06,991 --> 00:11:08,732 about 40 miles outside of Tascosa. 192 00:11:09,515 --> 00:11:11,735 Can we move right in and start living there? 193 00:11:11,779 --> 00:11:14,825 [Jocelyne] When you're a child, America, it's a, it's dream, you know, 194 00:11:14,869 --> 00:11:16,435 every child, you know, in this world 195 00:11:16,479 --> 00:11:18,524 somehow dreams of going to America. 196 00:11:20,701 --> 00:11:23,442 I came here in 1989. 197 00:11:25,227 --> 00:11:28,012 I do know when I landed in Los Angeles, 198 00:11:28,056 --> 00:11:32,277 I felt, I felt like more home, you know. 199 00:11:34,062 --> 00:11:35,890 I met Richard, um... 200 00:11:38,153 --> 00:11:40,546 at the Hollywood Film Festival that I was part of. 201 00:11:42,810 --> 00:11:45,856 Before him, I never met anyone really, uh, 202 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:48,337 criminal, so... [chuckles] 203 00:11:48,859 --> 00:11:51,340 You know, being Italian-American, uh, 204 00:11:51,383 --> 00:11:53,995 coming from, I don't know if he comes from the mob 205 00:11:54,038 --> 00:11:57,389 or what but I was fascinated by it, I have to admit. 206 00:11:57,999 --> 00:12:01,002 [light, playful music] 207 00:12:03,047 --> 00:12:05,615 [Rich] My father is an American dream story. 208 00:12:05,658 --> 00:12:09,706 My father's dream was always to be a superstar. 209 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:11,360 It was always to be famous. 210 00:12:11,882 --> 00:12:14,058 You know, I was in his movie Whacking Cows. 211 00:12:14,929 --> 00:12:18,759 I looked up to him a lot and I feel like he was almost like a superhero to me. 212 00:12:19,455 --> 00:12:21,457 He didn't need De Niro to say, "All right. 213 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:22,806 You-- You're the star of a movie." 214 00:12:22,850 --> 00:12:23,894 He was a star already. 215 00:12:23,938 --> 00:12:24,808 Come on, get out. 216 00:12:33,121 --> 00:12:36,211 The methology has risen, let's go. 217 00:12:36,254 --> 00:12:37,647 I love the camera. 218 00:12:38,779 --> 00:12:40,606 You know, I was growing up the way I did, you know, 219 00:12:40,650 --> 00:12:42,478 I was always looking for attention. 220 00:12:43,348 --> 00:12:46,830 How much more attention can you get than this? [chuckles] 221 00:12:47,439 --> 00:12:50,225 My mother winged up in a mental institution, 222 00:12:50,791 --> 00:12:53,968 and my father who once again doing time. 223 00:12:54,011 --> 00:12:57,536 And my life just felt complete 224 00:12:57,580 --> 00:13:00,061 when I hang out with the, uh, the tough guys 225 00:13:00,104 --> 00:13:03,325 or good fellas as we say, you know, in our world. 226 00:13:04,456 --> 00:13:09,157 I started robbing banks, uh, armored car heists. 227 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,072 [man] Your fucking gun. Drop the fucking gun! 228 00:13:11,812 --> 00:13:13,074 Get on the ground. 229 00:13:13,117 --> 00:13:14,989 [Richie] And before you knew it, I was in Attica 230 00:13:15,032 --> 00:13:16,773 doing 12 years. 231 00:13:16,817 --> 00:13:19,994 I got sentenced on a, uh, a payroll robbery that I did. 232 00:13:20,516 --> 00:13:21,822 [tires screech] 233 00:13:22,431 --> 00:13:23,911 I wanted to get out of that life. 234 00:13:23,954 --> 00:13:25,434 If you saw Whacking Cows, 235 00:13:25,477 --> 00:13:27,523 it's a story of a guy 236 00:13:27,566 --> 00:13:29,438 trying to make his life better. 237 00:13:30,526 --> 00:13:33,355 I'm just tired of this life. I want to do something different. 238 00:13:34,138 --> 00:13:37,315 And everybody I spoke would just naturally would say, 239 00:13:37,359 --> 00:13:39,752 "You got a nice personality, I like that. 240 00:13:39,796 --> 00:13:41,232 You should become an actor. 241 00:13:41,754 --> 00:13:44,583 You can live your life on film 242 00:13:44,627 --> 00:13:47,151 and not have all these people chasing you for real." 243 00:13:47,935 --> 00:13:49,937 And I say, "Hey, that's a great idea, man." 244 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:51,677 [upbeat music] 245 00:13:54,376 --> 00:13:55,203 [gun bangs] 246 00:13:55,943 --> 00:13:57,074 [siren wails] 247 00:13:57,858 --> 00:14:00,077 And that's how my career started in acting. 248 00:14:01,383 --> 00:14:05,430 And then an agent said, "Listen, De Niro's doing a film, 249 00:14:05,474 --> 00:14:06,562 and I got you in. 250 00:14:06,605 --> 00:14:07,998 You know, go read for them." 251 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,393 I went in and Bobby was sitting there. 252 00:14:11,436 --> 00:14:12,916 He said, "Were you ever on film before?" 253 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,875 I said, "A thousand times!" 254 00:14:14,918 --> 00:14:17,181 I said, "At the police station had all my number." 255 00:14:17,225 --> 00:14:19,183 He said, "I like this guy." 256 00:14:19,227 --> 00:14:20,315 You're good. 257 00:14:20,358 --> 00:14:22,317 No, no, you're good, Doc. 258 00:14:22,883 --> 00:14:25,886 He said, "I'm going to make you Jimmy Boots." 259 00:14:26,974 --> 00:14:29,063 And I looked at like 15 pages. 260 00:14:30,064 --> 00:14:31,848 Well, that was relatively painless. 261 00:14:31,892 --> 00:14:32,980 -[slaps] -Shut the fuck up. 262 00:14:33,850 --> 00:14:34,895 That hurt. 263 00:14:34,938 --> 00:14:36,418 [Richie] Every breath I took 264 00:14:36,461 --> 00:14:38,463 on that set, I enjoyed it. 265 00:14:39,725 --> 00:14:41,814 I loved working with Robert De Niro. 266 00:14:42,337 --> 00:14:43,991 It was like being with God. 267 00:14:46,036 --> 00:14:48,125 When we wrapped, I started crying 268 00:14:48,169 --> 00:14:51,563 because I felt bad about leaving Jimmy Boots, 269 00:14:51,607 --> 00:14:53,826 the character that I had played for three months. 270 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:56,090 I actually felt like two different people. 271 00:14:57,178 --> 00:14:59,223 That's what happens in every movie I'm in. 272 00:15:00,007 --> 00:15:02,879 I become the character, and the character comes to life. 273 00:15:04,837 --> 00:15:06,883 [siren wails] 274 00:15:09,755 --> 00:15:12,062 [producer] Can you talk about meeting Jocelyne? 275 00:15:12,106 --> 00:15:14,064 I thought she was a wonderful lady. 276 00:15:14,108 --> 00:15:15,631 And I wanted to hold onto it, 277 00:15:15,674 --> 00:15:17,546 and that's how I got deeply involved with her, 278 00:15:18,677 --> 00:15:20,114 because I liked her that much. 279 00:15:21,854 --> 00:15:24,901 [Jocelyne] I was attracted to Richard by his fun side. 280 00:15:24,945 --> 00:15:28,470 He had a very fun side about him, always joking. 281 00:15:28,513 --> 00:15:30,602 But my age, I don't think so, 282 00:15:30,646 --> 00:15:34,171 you just have a relationship just to have a relationship, you know? 283 00:15:34,215 --> 00:15:36,826 You have to be in love. Yes, I was in love with him. 284 00:15:38,523 --> 00:15:41,657 Actually, it happened very, on the spur of the moment 285 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:43,050 that he proposed to me. 286 00:15:43,093 --> 00:15:44,225 One morning he woke up and he said, 287 00:15:44,268 --> 00:15:45,661 "Let's go and get married." 288 00:15:45,704 --> 00:15:46,792 And I said, "Okay." 289 00:15:49,491 --> 00:15:52,581 [Richie] I don't know if this is too personal to tell the world, 290 00:15:52,624 --> 00:15:55,323 but making love to her, 291 00:15:55,366 --> 00:15:57,064 I probably cried like a girl sometimes 292 00:15:57,107 --> 00:15:59,936 because I'm an emotional guy, 293 00:15:59,980 --> 00:16:01,677 and especially when I make love 294 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,548 and when I care about the person. 295 00:16:04,506 --> 00:16:06,290 I've always been loyal to a girl I was with. 296 00:16:06,334 --> 00:16:09,032 And they'll all tell you. Right, girls? You out there? 297 00:16:09,076 --> 00:16:10,555 You know, I tell the truth. 298 00:16:10,599 --> 00:16:13,167 [dark, playful music] 299 00:16:15,647 --> 00:16:18,302 Hey, Isaac, do you ever think of getting out of here? 300 00:16:18,346 --> 00:16:20,043 -And go where? -I don't know. 301 00:16:20,087 --> 00:16:21,740 Maybe we'll start a farm or something. 302 00:16:21,784 --> 00:16:23,655 Raise some cows, who knows? 303 00:16:29,792 --> 00:16:32,534 [Jocelyne] We wanted to get out of New York 304 00:16:32,577 --> 00:16:33,796 to start over again. 305 00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:38,148 We wanted that little tranquil life, you know? 306 00:16:39,323 --> 00:16:43,893 And I just wanted to see the, the, you know the nice side of Narrowsburg. 307 00:16:44,676 --> 00:16:47,288 [dark, playful music] 308 00:17:03,913 --> 00:17:06,176 -Hey, what's up, Mike? -[Mike] What's up, Richie? 309 00:17:06,220 --> 00:17:08,352 -You got that money? -What money? 310 00:17:08,961 --> 00:17:12,182 -So now you forgot? -I paid you last night. What are you talking about? 311 00:17:12,878 --> 00:17:15,142 -Forget about it. -I got a bad memory. 312 00:17:15,185 --> 00:17:17,057 [Mike] Yeah, well, let's work on it. 313 00:17:19,711 --> 00:17:21,670 [Zac] Me and him hit it off fairly quickly. 314 00:17:23,541 --> 00:17:26,936 One day, he started talking about starting an acting school. 315 00:17:28,329 --> 00:17:30,592 And I'm going to be the first student 316 00:17:30,635 --> 00:17:33,682 in the Richard Castellano School of Acting. 317 00:17:35,553 --> 00:17:38,208 Every single morning I would see him and, "Come on. 318 00:17:38,252 --> 00:17:40,776 Come to my acting classes." I said, "Are you kidding me? 319 00:17:40,819 --> 00:17:42,473 I don't need no acting class. 320 00:17:42,517 --> 00:17:45,476 I can act fine all on my own." [chuckles] 321 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,478 That's how it started out with him, and 322 00:17:47,522 --> 00:17:49,785 before you knew it, he had a thing on Main Street there, 323 00:17:49,828 --> 00:17:52,831 and everybody and their brothers we're coming down here to take acting classes. 324 00:17:52,875 --> 00:17:55,573 [John Cirelli] I think it was $20, $25 a weekend. 325 00:17:55,617 --> 00:17:57,706 My granddaughter learned to be an actress. 326 00:17:58,185 --> 00:18:00,361 She learned to talk in front of people. 327 00:18:00,404 --> 00:18:03,190 She didn't-- She wasn't afraid after that. 328 00:18:03,233 --> 00:18:04,495 It helped her in school. 329 00:18:05,409 --> 00:18:08,717 [Zac] I watched the class grow into 25, 330 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,980 30 people, 35 people. 331 00:18:11,415 --> 00:18:12,590 And then I got a camera. 332 00:18:13,287 --> 00:18:14,418 [man] Action! 333 00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:23,035 [Zac] I don't remember there being a script, 334 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:25,125 but it was all kind of coming out of his head. 335 00:18:26,038 --> 00:18:27,127 [man] Action. 336 00:18:27,170 --> 00:18:28,867 You fucking bitch. [chuckles] 337 00:18:29,433 --> 00:18:31,348 You're supposed to be a cop? Aren't you a little young to be a cop? 338 00:18:31,392 --> 00:18:34,351 [chuckles] You never saw 21 Jump Street? 339 00:18:34,395 --> 00:18:37,615 [Zac] There's like a detective, and there's a murder, and there's a camp 340 00:18:37,659 --> 00:18:39,965 because there was a lot of young kids in the class. 341 00:18:40,009 --> 00:18:41,358 I asked you, what's the matter? 342 00:18:43,230 --> 00:18:45,101 [Zac] There's grandparents. 343 00:18:45,145 --> 00:18:47,190 There was like a crazy lady, and it was just 344 00:18:47,234 --> 00:18:49,540 the story would just get bigger and bigger and bigger. 345 00:18:51,238 --> 00:18:52,978 It was totally improv. 346 00:18:53,022 --> 00:18:55,198 It was like, "You're the brother, you're the sister. 347 00:18:55,242 --> 00:18:56,808 Your mom just got killed, 348 00:18:56,852 --> 00:18:59,246 and you think that it's your father's fault 349 00:18:59,289 --> 00:19:01,248 and she thinks it's your fault; go!" 350 00:19:02,553 --> 00:19:05,077 But there wasn't a whole lot to do in Narrowsburg. 351 00:19:05,121 --> 00:19:06,818 And it was a-- It was fun. 352 00:19:06,862 --> 00:19:08,211 [laughs] 353 00:19:10,474 --> 00:19:13,738 [John Marchese] And there was these people who, they were farmers, 354 00:19:13,782 --> 00:19:16,350 and, uh, kids from the local high school 355 00:19:16,393 --> 00:19:19,396 shouting like, "Fuck you!" "No, fuck you!" 356 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,703 "No, hey, fuck you, fuck you!" 357 00:19:21,746 --> 00:19:24,358 And that was [chuckles] the Richie Castellano School of Acting. 358 00:19:24,401 --> 00:19:25,924 That's it, what can you do? 359 00:19:25,968 --> 00:19:27,752 [John Marchese] They would put on this act 360 00:19:27,796 --> 00:19:30,929 where Jocelyne would pick up the phone and say, you know, 361 00:19:30,973 --> 00:19:33,149 "It's Bobby" [chuckles]. 362 00:19:33,193 --> 00:19:37,240 And Richie would come and start talking on the phone. 363 00:19:37,284 --> 00:19:38,850 Of course, everybody thought he had a call 364 00:19:38,894 --> 00:19:40,809 from Robert De Niro, you know, who else? 365 00:19:42,027 --> 00:19:46,641 Um, I think that was just part of the, uh, promotion. 366 00:19:54,475 --> 00:19:56,041 [bells ring] 367 00:19:58,653 --> 00:20:00,698 [man] Can anybody join this parade or what? 368 00:20:01,656 --> 00:20:03,179 -How are you? -[woman] Is that Richie? 369 00:20:03,223 --> 00:20:04,267 It's the film festival. 370 00:20:04,311 --> 00:20:05,921 Beat it, kids, you're [mumbles]. 371 00:20:06,487 --> 00:20:10,447 [Zac] I made a commercial for the first film festival. 372 00:20:11,013 --> 00:20:15,278 And it was this like huge production, and it was on TV. 373 00:20:15,322 --> 00:20:17,324 [clock ticks] 374 00:20:17,367 --> 00:20:19,500 [narrator] Don't sleep through your dream. Live it 375 00:20:19,543 --> 00:20:22,372 at the Narrowsburg International Independent Film Festival, 376 00:20:22,416 --> 00:20:24,287 August 2nd through the 6th. 377 00:20:24,331 --> 00:20:28,204 Meet producers, actors, screenwriters, and directors. 378 00:20:28,248 --> 00:20:31,903 Attend daily seminars, screenings, and nightly events. 379 00:20:31,947 --> 00:20:34,036 Learn and celebrate the art of indie film 380 00:20:34,079 --> 00:20:35,907 in the beautiful Catskill Mountains. 381 00:20:35,951 --> 00:20:38,040 For information visit our website 382 00:20:38,083 --> 00:20:40,303 at narrowsburgfilmfestival.com. 383 00:20:42,914 --> 00:20:45,613 [Zac] The first film festival was amazing. 384 00:20:45,656 --> 00:20:47,919 I mean, it was a big deal and there were real movies. 385 00:20:48,398 --> 00:20:51,096 The whole place was covered with balloons, 386 00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:54,448 and the ceiling. And Mekhi Phifer was there. 387 00:20:54,491 --> 00:20:57,842 Linda Hopkins, who was this jazz singer, performed. 388 00:20:57,886 --> 00:21:00,280 It was really happening in a lot of ways. 389 00:21:01,193 --> 00:21:04,153 [John Marchese] There were people around packing that little theater. 390 00:21:06,634 --> 00:21:08,418 [Richie] We were the talk of the town. 391 00:21:08,462 --> 00:21:10,246 There's the Castellanos! 392 00:21:10,290 --> 00:21:11,900 They had it in the papers. 393 00:21:11,943 --> 00:21:14,859 They call us, uh, real McCoy. [chuckles] 394 00:21:15,338 --> 00:21:17,079 [Richie] They loved us so much in Narrowsburg, 395 00:21:17,122 --> 00:21:19,516 they named a hamburger after me! 396 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,562 They had the Castellano Burger. 397 00:21:21,605 --> 00:21:25,957 I actually thought that they would change the name 398 00:21:26,001 --> 00:21:28,786 of Narrowsburg to Castellanosburg. 399 00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:31,528 Thank you so much. I'm so happy that you're all here. 400 00:21:31,572 --> 00:21:35,619 Please have a nice night. God bless everyone and all my fellow actors. 401 00:21:35,663 --> 00:21:38,970 My wonderful wife who keeps me on the straight narrow. 402 00:21:39,014 --> 00:21:40,842 My brother chose those words. 403 00:21:40,885 --> 00:21:42,452 So thank you once again. 404 00:21:42,496 --> 00:21:44,846 God bless everybody, okay? Thank you. 405 00:21:44,889 --> 00:21:47,065 [audience cheers] 406 00:21:47,588 --> 00:21:50,634 I have to thank right out of the gate... 407 00:21:51,635 --> 00:21:54,464 Jocelyne and Richard Castellano. 408 00:21:54,508 --> 00:21:58,120 They told me about a dream that they had. 409 00:21:58,163 --> 00:22:00,165 [audience cheers] 410 00:22:03,038 --> 00:22:09,305 Believe me, it will be a Sundance on the East Coast. 411 00:22:09,349 --> 00:22:11,742 [audience cheers] 412 00:22:13,135 --> 00:22:15,833 [sings in foreign language] 413 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:25,408 [Jocelyne] I just wanted to do a good festival. 414 00:22:25,452 --> 00:22:28,324 I just wanted to do something good. And I felt that, you know, 415 00:22:28,368 --> 00:22:31,283 having this kind of attention would make him believe 416 00:22:31,327 --> 00:22:33,764 that he can be someone. He can be somebody. 417 00:22:33,808 --> 00:22:35,592 He can, he can really change his life 418 00:22:35,636 --> 00:22:39,857 from mob wannabe to, you know, 419 00:22:39,901 --> 00:22:41,816 have a, have a good Hollywood story. 420 00:22:41,859 --> 00:22:43,383 That's what I wanted for him. 421 00:22:44,688 --> 00:22:47,430 You know, like, like in the movies, you know? [chuckles] 422 00:22:48,213 --> 00:22:49,693 [sings in foreign language] 423 00:23:08,669 --> 00:23:10,453 [Zac] Soon after the festival, 424 00:23:10,497 --> 00:23:12,107 Richard was always talking about 425 00:23:12,150 --> 00:23:14,501 making the movie Four Deadly Reasons, 426 00:23:14,544 --> 00:23:16,546 and, "You're all going to be invited to be in it." 427 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:20,028 [dark, playful music] 428 00:23:23,118 --> 00:23:25,076 [Tom] I tell you exactly what he said to me. 429 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:27,165 "We're making this movie in Narrowsburg." 430 00:23:27,209 --> 00:23:29,341 And he said, "We're going to use a lot of local people." 431 00:23:29,385 --> 00:23:31,735 But this came with more than just making a film. 432 00:23:31,779 --> 00:23:33,781 It came with putting the town on the map. 433 00:23:34,564 --> 00:23:38,046 [Jocelyne] I've never produced a film before, before that one. 434 00:23:38,089 --> 00:23:40,004 Richard is no organizer. 435 00:23:40,048 --> 00:23:45,575 [chuckles] And so, uh, he said, "Organize it, make it happen, 436 00:23:45,619 --> 00:23:48,143 and I will find the finance for it." 437 00:23:49,884 --> 00:23:52,495 I asked, "Do you want to be in the movie? Come and audition." 438 00:23:52,539 --> 00:23:55,150 "You want to invest in the movie? Let me know." 439 00:23:55,193 --> 00:23:57,326 "You want to invest? Yeah, I'll take 5,000." 440 00:23:59,546 --> 00:24:01,373 [Dr. Paul] I saw the movie Analyze This. 441 00:24:01,417 --> 00:24:03,201 I was very impressed by it. 442 00:24:03,245 --> 00:24:05,203 He wanted to know if I'd be interested 443 00:24:05,247 --> 00:24:08,293 in giving him some money for this venture. 444 00:24:08,337 --> 00:24:10,687 "Hey, Doc, how are you? We need your help. 445 00:24:10,731 --> 00:24:13,516 You're a good guy, let's get it together, come on!" 446 00:24:15,387 --> 00:24:18,782 Richie used to go down here every day, telling people, "Come over, come over, 447 00:24:18,826 --> 00:24:21,045 and, you know, do some acting. I'll get you in a movie." 448 00:24:21,089 --> 00:24:23,657 He said people are going to be movie stars. 449 00:24:26,137 --> 00:24:29,053 Everybody wants to be a part of that Hollywood glitz and glamor. 450 00:24:31,055 --> 00:24:34,319 People began to talk, and I think they were lining up to give Richie money. 451 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,713 [soft chatter] 452 00:24:36,757 --> 00:24:37,888 [woman] Yeah, bring everything. 453 00:24:39,324 --> 00:24:42,414 Great, once you go into the camp and, uh... 454 00:24:43,328 --> 00:24:45,026 [Zac] He held a very large audition, 455 00:24:45,069 --> 00:24:46,854 and everybody I knew probably was there. 456 00:24:46,897 --> 00:24:48,029 I mean, it was packed. 457 00:24:50,510 --> 00:24:53,600 Do you wanted me to fill this out, but what does this stuff mean? 458 00:24:53,643 --> 00:24:55,340 Social Security number. 459 00:24:55,384 --> 00:24:57,821 Over here put question mark. 460 00:24:57,865 --> 00:24:59,431 You're playing Dominic. 461 00:24:59,475 --> 00:25:01,259 Okay, I don't know my Social Security number. 462 00:25:01,303 --> 00:25:04,045 Okay, just put-- I don't know [laughs]. 463 00:25:04,741 --> 00:25:06,917 [audience cheers] 464 00:25:18,755 --> 00:25:20,148 [whistles] 465 00:25:21,802 --> 00:25:24,456 [Paul] Cut. Okay, good. Okay, that was really good. 466 00:25:25,675 --> 00:25:27,938 Guys, I know it doesn't look natural. 467 00:25:27,982 --> 00:25:30,898 Background action, everybody here starts cheering 468 00:25:30,941 --> 00:25:32,769 and doing your thing. Cheerleaders start cheering. 469 00:25:32,813 --> 00:25:35,032 And then we call action. 470 00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:37,078 Then we kind of look to you. 471 00:25:37,687 --> 00:25:39,167 Okay, one more rehearsal. 472 00:25:39,210 --> 00:25:41,517 [dark, playful music] 473 00:25:41,996 --> 00:25:44,215 [Zac] I was cast as his son. 474 00:25:44,259 --> 00:25:47,654 I'm Dominic, I'm this, like, basketball star. 475 00:25:47,697 --> 00:25:51,483 And I was really excited to have this opportunity 476 00:25:51,527 --> 00:25:53,964 that was seemingly like once in a lifetime. 477 00:25:55,792 --> 00:25:58,360 That's when I smoked my first cigarette 478 00:25:58,403 --> 00:26:01,406 and that's when I had my first beer. 479 00:26:03,539 --> 00:26:04,888 It was really happening. 480 00:26:04,932 --> 00:26:06,498 I mean, there's big trucks there 481 00:26:06,542 --> 00:26:10,198 with real professionals and gangsters. 482 00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:14,594 All of them had been in, like, Analyze Thisor Casino. 483 00:26:16,944 --> 00:26:21,252 Richie was taking it very seriously. He loved that movie. 484 00:26:21,296 --> 00:26:24,734 I want you four guys to start sticking together. 485 00:26:24,778 --> 00:26:27,171 I want you to start creating a little bit of attitude. 486 00:26:27,215 --> 00:26:29,652 And I want you to start feeling like the Four Deadly Reasons. 487 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,482 [Paul] I had submitted a documentary 488 00:26:33,525 --> 00:26:35,136 to the Narrowsburg Film Festival. 489 00:26:36,137 --> 00:26:39,357 Jocelyne, said, "Well, I love your documentary. 490 00:26:39,401 --> 00:26:41,185 Would you be interested in directing this?" 491 00:26:41,795 --> 00:26:43,710 Okay, so, so Zac. 492 00:26:44,362 --> 00:26:46,669 [Joe] My friend, Paul Borghese, great director, 493 00:26:46,713 --> 00:26:49,150 he says, "I want to shoot this movie 494 00:26:49,193 --> 00:26:50,630 in Narrowsburg, New York." 495 00:26:51,543 --> 00:26:54,416 When I had the opportunity to write, uh, a mob film 496 00:26:54,459 --> 00:26:55,852 with, you know, it's in my blood. 497 00:26:55,896 --> 00:26:57,506 I wanted to prove that I could write more 498 00:26:57,549 --> 00:26:59,726 than what people thought I was capable. 499 00:26:59,769 --> 00:27:01,641 That I could see everything coming 500 00:27:01,684 --> 00:27:03,643 if I got involved in Hollywood. 501 00:27:04,078 --> 00:27:05,601 [Paul] All right, I'm going to, 502 00:27:05,645 --> 00:27:06,907 go through this with you guys a little bit. 503 00:27:06,950 --> 00:27:08,038 [man 2] All right, do it, shall we? 504 00:27:08,082 --> 00:27:09,518 Yeah, yeah, dog face. 505 00:27:09,561 --> 00:27:11,172 Why don't you get another tattoo? 506 00:27:11,781 --> 00:27:14,001 Mad dog, mad dog face. 507 00:27:14,044 --> 00:27:15,524 When are you going to get it right, Tommy? 508 00:27:16,177 --> 00:27:19,354 Yo, Jesus Christ, we're trying to talk over here. 509 00:27:20,094 --> 00:27:22,052 Yeah, asshole, I'm trying to read. 510 00:27:23,532 --> 00:27:26,317 So you guys are a little funny almost. 511 00:27:26,361 --> 00:27:29,059 Like you talk, I mean, you're a little funny. A little bit of, okay? 512 00:27:31,018 --> 00:27:34,935 [Paul] We were making what was supposed to be mob comedy, 513 00:27:34,978 --> 00:27:36,980 and the funny thing was that almost everybody that went up there, 514 00:27:37,024 --> 00:27:38,547 Richie would go, "Yeah. 515 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,027 You're good, you're good, yeah, I like you. 516 00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:41,593 I got something for you in this movie. 517 00:27:41,637 --> 00:27:42,943 I got something for you in this movie. 518 00:27:42,986 --> 00:27:44,031 You're going to be in my movie." 519 00:27:44,074 --> 00:27:45,206 [laugh] 520 00:27:45,249 --> 00:27:46,990 In all honesty, in all honesty, 521 00:27:47,034 --> 00:27:49,297 I wish everybody had this man's heart, because I know, 522 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:51,603 if it was up to him, everybody in this county will be working on this film, 523 00:27:51,647 --> 00:27:53,910 including, including my parents, their parents, 524 00:27:53,954 --> 00:27:56,696 my cousins, my cousins' cousins. 525 00:27:56,739 --> 00:27:57,740 -That's right. -He's a good man. 526 00:27:57,784 --> 00:27:59,481 And that-- I mean that. 527 00:27:59,524 --> 00:28:01,135 Uh, Chris, can you make sure we aren't, 528 00:28:01,178 --> 00:28:03,093 the officers' communication with someone, yeah. 529 00:28:03,137 --> 00:28:04,878 -[Chris] They're doing it right now. -[Jocelyne] Okay. 530 00:28:04,921 --> 00:28:07,619 You're going to be in a cop car, in the passenger side. 531 00:28:07,663 --> 00:28:09,970 Hey, Richie, you see this bank? 532 00:28:10,013 --> 00:28:11,362 -Right. -We talked about this before. 533 00:28:11,406 --> 00:28:12,973 Okay, make sure you're hitting. 534 00:28:13,016 --> 00:28:14,148 Roll sound! 535 00:28:14,191 --> 00:28:15,062 [woman] Sounds rolling. 536 00:28:15,627 --> 00:28:16,498 [man] Action! 537 00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:20,328 [Paul] Action caught. 538 00:28:30,033 --> 00:28:32,557 Trooper, Bobby Venuti just escaped. 539 00:28:32,601 --> 00:28:33,950 I want the bridge blocked. 540 00:28:36,866 --> 00:28:40,609 [man] All right, we're in the set here for two excellent characters 541 00:28:40,652 --> 00:28:42,524 -in Four Deadly Reasons. -Thank you. 542 00:28:42,567 --> 00:28:44,308 [man] How do you like the people on the shoot here? 543 00:28:44,787 --> 00:28:47,703 -Everyone's excellent. Yeah. -It's a great filmy atmosphere here. 544 00:28:47,747 --> 00:28:50,750 You know, you have a cast from other, other, other movies we did, 545 00:28:51,620 --> 00:28:54,231 Analyze This,and this and that, or whatever it is. 546 00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,146 Analyze there, here, anywhere. 547 00:28:56,756 --> 00:28:58,366 -[man] Hey, little Vitti. -[Joe] Say hello, Vitti. 548 00:28:58,409 --> 00:28:59,715 [man] You were in Analyze This, weren't you? 549 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:01,238 -Yeah. -What did you play? 550 00:29:01,282 --> 00:29:02,326 The little son. 551 00:29:03,763 --> 00:29:05,721 We'd like to say hello Mister and Missis Castellano 552 00:29:05,765 --> 00:29:07,244 for bringing this whole thing together. 553 00:29:07,288 --> 00:29:08,942 [man] All right, where are they? 554 00:29:08,985 --> 00:29:10,334 -We don't know where they are. -Richie and Jocelyne 555 00:29:10,378 --> 00:29:11,640 but they're around-- 556 00:29:11,683 --> 00:29:12,946 [man] I have to go find them too. 557 00:29:14,469 --> 00:29:15,426 [man] Chris, what part are you planning in the picture? 558 00:29:15,470 --> 00:29:16,688 Right now I'm playing a minor role 559 00:29:16,732 --> 00:29:19,430 as, uh, a patron at a coffee shop. 560 00:29:20,562 --> 00:29:23,043 [man] And, uh, you like the people on the set? 561 00:29:23,086 --> 00:29:24,827 The people on the set are really great, 562 00:29:24,871 --> 00:29:26,829 especially Rich-- Richard Castellano. 563 00:29:26,873 --> 00:29:28,483 He does a great job with everybody. 564 00:29:28,526 --> 00:29:30,354 And I think it's going to really be a good movie. 565 00:29:31,007 --> 00:29:33,357 I'm staying here from, uh, New York City. 566 00:29:33,401 --> 00:29:37,231 I came up to, uh, Narrowsburg. 567 00:29:37,274 --> 00:29:38,841 You know, it's a pretty nice town up here. 568 00:29:38,885 --> 00:29:40,451 You know, it's a little quiet, you know? 569 00:29:41,322 --> 00:29:44,064 You know, I thought, uh, I thought it was a ghost town 570 00:29:44,107 --> 00:29:46,414 but there are, there are really people living here, you know? 571 00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:50,810 And what do people do up here, actually do? 572 00:29:51,462 --> 00:29:52,986 [man] They canoe down at Delaware. 573 00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:55,597 They canoe down-- I knew a few guys that canoed. 574 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,643 But that-- Those were guys that, you know, uh, 575 00:29:58,687 --> 00:30:00,907 like, escaped from prisons that were near the water. 576 00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:05,650 It's scripted. 577 00:30:06,086 --> 00:30:07,652 We're going to have to, I, I, I, 578 00:30:07,696 --> 00:30:10,394 I wrote the scenes, uh, yesterday, 579 00:30:10,438 --> 00:30:11,526 and she's typing it this morning. 580 00:30:13,136 --> 00:30:14,442 Do you have a light that you put, like one of those lights 581 00:30:14,485 --> 00:30:16,052 that people put on their unmarked cars? 582 00:30:16,096 --> 00:30:17,619 -No. -No? 583 00:30:17,662 --> 00:30:19,099 I wanted but, you know what, 584 00:30:19,142 --> 00:30:20,230 we're going to lose the light. 585 00:30:21,057 --> 00:30:22,624 And they go down at the same time? 586 00:30:22,667 --> 00:30:24,365 -[Larry] I don't know, Paul. -Where's Richie? 587 00:30:24,408 --> 00:30:25,801 I have no idea. 588 00:30:27,455 --> 00:30:29,196 Things started to go bad while we were shooting that movie. 589 00:30:29,805 --> 00:30:31,894 You know, Richie was constantly missing. 590 00:30:31,938 --> 00:30:33,548 Nobody knew where he was. 591 00:30:34,766 --> 00:30:37,900 [Larry] Where the problem started to show up, 592 00:30:37,944 --> 00:30:40,424 people were showing up constantly saying, 593 00:30:40,947 --> 00:30:42,731 "Richie told me I could be in the film," 594 00:30:43,253 --> 00:30:47,301 and the production manager had the job of saying to them, 595 00:30:47,344 --> 00:30:49,694 uh, "I'm really sorry." 596 00:30:49,738 --> 00:30:52,697 Richie told everybody they could be in the film. 597 00:30:54,961 --> 00:30:58,660 And then after the first week, all the checks bounced. 598 00:30:58,703 --> 00:31:00,967 [eerie music] 599 00:31:02,403 --> 00:31:05,449 I called Richie and said, "Richie, you know, the check bounced. 600 00:31:05,493 --> 00:31:07,364 I'm going to go to the police." He said, "You go to the police, 601 00:31:07,408 --> 00:31:09,540 I'm-- you're going to the morgue." 602 00:31:09,584 --> 00:31:10,933 Fucking you, wasn't it? 603 00:31:10,977 --> 00:31:12,892 You're a fucking dead man, Paulie! 604 00:31:13,588 --> 00:31:15,372 [eerie music] 605 00:31:17,722 --> 00:31:20,682 Practically, everybody who was employed by them 606 00:31:20,725 --> 00:31:23,990 knew, phew, this is not going well. 607 00:31:24,033 --> 00:31:27,036 And my understanding is a couple of them threatened to quit, 608 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,257 and he threatened them with bodily harm [chuckles] 609 00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:31,388 if they quit. 610 00:31:33,956 --> 00:31:36,698 This is the file that I started keeping on Castellano 611 00:31:36,741 --> 00:31:39,570 when things started going south [chuckles], 612 00:31:39,614 --> 00:31:41,485 when we started hearing all these rumors 613 00:31:41,529 --> 00:31:44,184 that maybe, that this guy wasn't all he was supposed to be. 614 00:31:47,361 --> 00:31:49,276 [Steve] I remember he needed cash, 615 00:31:49,319 --> 00:31:51,408 and that's when he started to sweat. 616 00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:54,368 I don't know what he needed it for 617 00:31:54,411 --> 00:31:56,065 but he'd come out to my clinic, 618 00:31:56,109 --> 00:31:58,415 and I remember we had to throw him out a couple times, 619 00:31:58,459 --> 00:32:00,243 because he just wanted cash. 620 00:32:00,287 --> 00:32:02,071 You know, he just wanted a loan, a loan. 621 00:32:02,985 --> 00:32:04,726 Cash was his drug. 622 00:32:05,248 --> 00:32:09,165 [Zac] A lot of it was like, I got this shipment of sneakers 623 00:32:09,209 --> 00:32:11,080 that I'm going to buy for this amount of money 624 00:32:11,124 --> 00:32:12,734 and sell it for this amount of money, 625 00:32:12,777 --> 00:32:14,127 and if you give me this amount of money, 626 00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:15,389 I'll give you this amount of money. 627 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:19,959 [John Conway] He said he had a truckload of VCRs, 628 00:32:20,002 --> 00:32:22,352 and that if I would invest a certain amount of money, 629 00:32:22,396 --> 00:32:25,573 he said he would double the, the money in 48 hours. 630 00:32:28,228 --> 00:32:31,231 I know he's a very good talker, because when I first met him, 631 00:32:31,274 --> 00:32:34,147 he got money from me, so... [chuckles] 632 00:32:34,974 --> 00:32:37,672 He told me that he was going to go to jail 633 00:32:37,715 --> 00:32:41,023 if he didn't have money to pay his probation. 634 00:32:42,242 --> 00:32:44,374 And, of course, I found out way later 635 00:32:44,418 --> 00:32:48,161 that that was a total made up story, you know? 636 00:32:48,204 --> 00:32:50,119 [dark, playful music] 637 00:32:51,164 --> 00:32:52,774 I think he was not in control 638 00:32:52,817 --> 00:32:55,951 of a little bit of stardom that he was getting, 639 00:32:55,995 --> 00:32:57,822 and that fed his ego, 640 00:32:57,866 --> 00:33:00,086 and then I think it got out of control. 641 00:33:01,565 --> 00:33:05,221 [Richard] As time passed, people began to question 642 00:33:05,265 --> 00:33:07,006 just what was going on. 643 00:33:07,789 --> 00:33:10,139 And there were so many rumors around Castellano 644 00:33:10,183 --> 00:33:12,489 that you couldn't separate fact from fiction. 645 00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:19,540 At that point, there was, uh, essentially a work stoppage. 646 00:33:20,323 --> 00:33:25,111 Most of the crew did not want to continue working. 647 00:33:25,981 --> 00:33:27,852 [Paul] So the crew's waiting around, 648 00:33:27,896 --> 00:33:29,202 and all of a sudden, you know, 649 00:33:29,245 --> 00:33:31,682 here comes Richard on a golf cart. 650 00:33:31,726 --> 00:33:34,381 Ta-tara-tara, it was almost like Caddyshack. 651 00:33:34,424 --> 00:33:36,252 So he comes out, he gets off the cart 652 00:33:36,296 --> 00:33:38,559 with a, with a, with a brown paper bag. 653 00:33:39,255 --> 00:33:41,692 [Richie] I came there with 300,000 cash. 654 00:33:42,128 --> 00:33:44,869 "How many hours you worked? Here, here's your money." 655 00:33:44,913 --> 00:33:47,350 And I paid everybody down the line. 656 00:33:47,394 --> 00:33:52,964 Like, kind of, you know, mobster kind of payday. [chuckles] 657 00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:57,665 But I didn't knew where his money was coming from. 658 00:33:57,708 --> 00:34:00,755 And my, my mistake was not to try to find out. 659 00:34:01,190 --> 00:34:03,801 [dark, playful music] 660 00:34:16,597 --> 00:34:19,121 [Zac] Even after everything just fell apart, 661 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,603 a lot of the people were still hanging on. 662 00:34:23,473 --> 00:34:25,867 And I was definitely, like, in the hanging on camp. 663 00:34:26,346 --> 00:34:29,044 I kept going to the acting classes, 664 00:34:29,088 --> 00:34:33,527 and I kept doing all these things with the hope of, 665 00:34:33,570 --> 00:34:37,096 the movie's going to come out, and I'm going to have this movie that I was in. 666 00:34:38,532 --> 00:34:42,884 It wasn't until they started the second film festival 667 00:34:42,927 --> 00:34:46,061 where you started seeing the headline stories shifted. 668 00:34:49,064 --> 00:34:51,719 I had two movies in the Narrowsburg Film Festival. 669 00:34:51,762 --> 00:34:54,200 One of them opened the festival, 670 00:34:54,243 --> 00:34:56,115 and the other one closed the festival. 671 00:34:57,681 --> 00:35:00,162 You know, closing night movie, it was Blue Moon. 672 00:35:01,772 --> 00:35:04,340 I do love you. You know I love you. 673 00:35:04,906 --> 00:35:06,168 It's the end of the world. 674 00:35:07,213 --> 00:35:09,258 It must be the end the world. 675 00:35:09,302 --> 00:35:11,521 [Brian] And the other was in the opening night movie, 676 00:35:11,565 --> 00:35:13,044 that's Under Hellgate Bridge. 677 00:35:14,829 --> 00:35:16,657 Brian, I knew you're going to be here, man. 678 00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,659 Hey! [chuckles] 679 00:35:19,790 --> 00:35:23,707 [Brian] I called my agent, uh, Sarah Fargo at Paradigm, 680 00:35:23,751 --> 00:35:28,059 and I said, "I've got two movies in this festival." 681 00:35:28,103 --> 00:35:30,540 And she's like, "Oh, that's great! What is it?" 682 00:35:30,584 --> 00:35:34,414 And I said, "It's called Narrowsburg International Film Festival." 683 00:35:35,023 --> 00:35:38,026 And she said, "Well, when you find out what that is, 684 00:35:38,069 --> 00:35:40,028 let me know." [laughs] 685 00:35:43,249 --> 00:35:46,904 I remember that I had written down 686 00:35:46,948 --> 00:35:48,471 what had happened to me there. 687 00:35:48,515 --> 00:35:53,172 And in here is the Narrowsburg Film Festival 688 00:35:53,215 --> 00:35:55,957 as it happened to me. I was there every day. 689 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,916 And some of this is actually written down in dialogue 690 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,093 because when I hear really good dialogue, I like to write it down. 691 00:36:02,137 --> 00:36:04,357 [dark, whimsical music] 692 00:36:06,272 --> 00:36:08,317 When we got into town, 693 00:36:08,361 --> 00:36:11,538 the town was not what I expected at all. 694 00:36:12,016 --> 00:36:14,845 It was kind of like a scary movie set. 695 00:36:14,889 --> 00:36:16,151 There wasn't one banner 696 00:36:16,195 --> 00:36:19,894 over a little tiny theater. 697 00:36:19,937 --> 00:36:23,724 In the theater, it was kind of a little sad auditorium. 698 00:36:23,767 --> 00:36:26,422 Even the screen was askew. 699 00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:31,645 I saw Richie, and Richie goes, "Hey, Brian Vincent, 700 00:36:31,688 --> 00:36:34,213 welcome to the Sundance of the East." 701 00:36:34,735 --> 00:36:37,520 Then there was like a blur of motion 702 00:36:37,564 --> 00:36:40,741 of like this guy right behind him came up suddenly, 703 00:36:40,784 --> 00:36:45,267 and he turned around and grabbed this guy 704 00:36:46,007 --> 00:36:49,489 by the lapel of his shirt and dragged him into an alley, 705 00:36:50,098 --> 00:36:51,578 and he start beating him. 706 00:36:51,621 --> 00:36:53,580 And it was like, [puffs] 707 00:36:53,623 --> 00:36:55,495 the guy was like, "No, no!" 708 00:36:55,538 --> 00:36:57,845 And Richie goes, "Motherfucker!" 709 00:36:57,888 --> 00:37:00,891 And Jocelyne ushered me into the office 710 00:37:00,935 --> 00:37:02,328 while all that was happening. 711 00:37:02,893 --> 00:37:05,244 She just acted like it didn't happen. 712 00:37:06,375 --> 00:37:08,203 I think she'd make a great poker player. 713 00:37:09,204 --> 00:37:11,989 Then Richie comes back, and he's shaking out his hands, 714 00:37:12,033 --> 00:37:15,079 and he goes, "We can't have any bums in this town. 715 00:37:15,123 --> 00:37:16,603 We got a festival to run here." 716 00:37:17,908 --> 00:37:19,562 He looked very worried actually. 717 00:37:21,738 --> 00:37:24,611 Pretty quickly after, somebody took me aside 718 00:37:24,654 --> 00:37:27,527 and they said, "I gave some money, 719 00:37:27,570 --> 00:37:33,446 quite a lot of money to this guy Richie Castellano for my SAG card. 720 00:37:33,489 --> 00:37:36,492 Did you ever do that before or did you go to the union?" 721 00:37:38,189 --> 00:37:40,017 That was a very odd question. 722 00:37:41,323 --> 00:37:43,543 It was like what else could possibly go wrong? 723 00:37:43,586 --> 00:37:47,242 Because it probably is going to. I mean, the food was late for the dinner, 724 00:37:47,286 --> 00:37:51,377 and so and so didn't show up and this person's going to walk if they don't get their money, 725 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:54,249 and, I mean, it just became a total-- 726 00:37:54,293 --> 00:37:56,077 it was total train wreck. 727 00:37:57,165 --> 00:37:58,558 And now let's have some fun. 728 00:38:00,168 --> 00:38:02,562 And I would like to call on the stage someone, uh, someone 729 00:38:02,605 --> 00:38:04,607 that everybody is expecting tonight. 730 00:38:04,651 --> 00:38:06,740 Pat, where are you? 731 00:38:06,783 --> 00:38:07,784 Pat Cooper. 732 00:38:07,828 --> 00:38:09,699 [audience cheers] 733 00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:17,925 Ladies and gentlemen, I have never been so bored in my life. 734 00:38:17,968 --> 00:38:20,536 [audience laughs] 735 00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:24,671 I have never, never saw actors give themselves 736 00:38:24,714 --> 00:38:26,890 accolades that nobody gives a goddamn. 737 00:38:28,675 --> 00:38:31,939 I wound up going to this goddamn small town, Narrowsville, 738 00:38:31,982 --> 00:38:34,942 Narrowscot, and I don't know how they call the goddamn place. 739 00:38:34,985 --> 00:38:36,944 I said hello to Richie Castellani. 740 00:38:36,987 --> 00:38:39,947 We talk about a man that said he make movie after movie. 741 00:38:40,513 --> 00:38:42,645 I only seen him in one goddamn movie, 742 00:38:42,689 --> 00:38:44,821 but the way he talked, it's like Gone with the Wind. 743 00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:46,127 [audience laughs] 744 00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:48,085 Little Rosalyn, Jocelyne, Jeesalyn, 745 00:38:48,129 --> 00:38:51,654 or what her goddamn name is, who spoke here for ten minutes, 746 00:38:51,698 --> 00:38:54,265 and I swear to Christ nobody knew what she said. 747 00:38:54,309 --> 00:38:55,745 [audience laughs] 748 00:38:55,789 --> 00:38:57,921 Moving on, ladies and gentlemen, 749 00:38:57,965 --> 00:39:00,533 standing on a stage with actors that nobody knows. 750 00:39:00,576 --> 00:39:02,535 [audience laughs] 751 00:39:03,579 --> 00:39:06,887 Richard Castellano, you dear man, ladies and gentlemen, 752 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:09,019 who tries to give lessons on acting. 753 00:39:09,063 --> 00:39:10,412 [audience laughs] 754 00:39:10,456 --> 00:39:11,544 What a joke. 755 00:39:11,587 --> 00:39:13,241 [audience laughs] 756 00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:14,634 I made a movie with him. 757 00:39:14,677 --> 00:39:16,287 This guy couldn't find the fucking door. 758 00:39:16,331 --> 00:39:18,159 [audience laughs] 759 00:39:18,202 --> 00:39:21,554 But I love him, and I love this kind of situation 760 00:39:21,597 --> 00:39:23,817 because nobody cares. 761 00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:24,992 [audience laughs] 762 00:39:25,035 --> 00:39:26,907 What are you making, a movie? 763 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:28,735 No! Get away, no more. 764 00:39:28,778 --> 00:39:30,476 That's it, stop. Stop! 765 00:39:31,041 --> 00:39:34,001 Stop, that's it, no more, no more. 766 00:39:34,044 --> 00:39:35,829 -Oh. -[man] Close-up. 767 00:39:35,872 --> 00:39:37,091 -Stop. -Close-up. 768 00:39:37,134 --> 00:39:38,571 -Stop. Stop. -Are you serious? 769 00:39:38,614 --> 00:39:40,660 [uneasy music] 770 00:39:47,144 --> 00:39:49,669 [Brian] So on Sunday was when they showed Blue Moon. 771 00:39:49,712 --> 00:39:52,498 And then they were going to give out all the awards. 772 00:39:53,281 --> 00:39:57,546 And I won the dubious honor of the Rising Star Award 773 00:39:57,590 --> 00:40:00,636 at the Narrowsburg International Film Festival. 774 00:40:01,811 --> 00:40:03,770 And I got caught up in it. 775 00:40:04,771 --> 00:40:08,078 It made me cry, and I realize as I was crying 776 00:40:08,122 --> 00:40:09,863 how ridiculous it was, 777 00:40:09,906 --> 00:40:13,910 because I knew that the festival was a sch-- sham, 778 00:40:13,954 --> 00:40:17,479 and I'm crying over... a sham. 779 00:40:17,523 --> 00:40:19,829 [uneasy music] 780 00:40:20,743 --> 00:40:24,138 The next day, they were showing Four Deadly Reasons. 781 00:40:24,791 --> 00:40:28,055 What I had heard was that the town had produced the movie, 782 00:40:28,098 --> 00:40:30,187 which sounded kind of intriguing to me, actually. 783 00:40:30,231 --> 00:40:31,972 Like, could a town produce a whole movie 784 00:40:32,015 --> 00:40:34,191 and it'd be a hit? Yeah, of course, they could. 785 00:40:34,235 --> 00:40:35,236 It's a great story. [chuckles] 786 00:40:38,108 --> 00:40:40,328 [Zac] We had heard about it through the premier 787 00:40:40,371 --> 00:40:41,982 for weeks and weeks and weeks. 788 00:40:42,025 --> 00:40:44,288 It was going to be like a Hollywood premier. 789 00:40:44,332 --> 00:40:47,291 I expected to see a great movie with local people in it. 790 00:40:47,335 --> 00:40:50,730 Some famous actors mixing with the local people. 791 00:40:50,773 --> 00:40:53,297 Putting the small town of Narrowsburg on the map. 792 00:40:55,169 --> 00:40:56,475 I bought a suit. 793 00:40:56,518 --> 00:40:58,694 I was going to, like, roll up 794 00:40:58,738 --> 00:41:01,784 and make a grand entrance in a town car. 795 00:41:01,828 --> 00:41:03,830 I mean, I had a big plan. 796 00:41:04,308 --> 00:41:05,701 It was the film festival, you know? 797 00:41:05,745 --> 00:41:07,442 I was counting down the days. 798 00:41:07,486 --> 00:41:10,010 I was so excited. Tickets sold out immediately. 799 00:41:10,053 --> 00:41:12,578 Everyone wanted to see what this movie was going to be. 800 00:41:15,189 --> 00:41:17,931 [Brian] When we got there, the town was all dressed up. 801 00:41:17,974 --> 00:41:20,411 And they were so happy. 802 00:41:20,455 --> 00:41:21,978 They all felt like professional actors. 803 00:41:22,762 --> 00:41:25,721 But [stutters] what was amazing to me was that Richie, 804 00:41:25,765 --> 00:41:28,245 he was still on a throne, you know, 805 00:41:28,289 --> 00:41:31,858 and people were just, they loved him. 806 00:41:32,336 --> 00:41:34,600 I set up my camera in the back. I was standing in the back. 807 00:41:34,643 --> 00:41:36,950 I was going to capture this moment. 808 00:41:36,993 --> 00:41:39,561 And, uh, Joe Dinki gets up there. 809 00:41:39,605 --> 00:41:41,345 [audience applauds] 810 00:41:41,389 --> 00:41:44,435 All right, um, I, um... 811 00:41:45,306 --> 00:41:48,570 wrote the screenplay for Four Deadly Reasons from an original story 812 00:41:48,614 --> 00:41:51,704 by, uh, Richard's son and another person. 813 00:41:51,747 --> 00:41:54,228 And, uh, we took it and we made it into a-- 814 00:41:54,271 --> 00:41:57,710 I think a very viable, very sellable, very fun mob film. 815 00:41:58,406 --> 00:42:01,409 So let's all applaud Narrowsburg for their participation. 816 00:42:01,452 --> 00:42:04,020 -Thank you. -[audience cheers] 817 00:42:10,287 --> 00:42:12,594 Now, uh, the hard part. 818 00:42:14,117 --> 00:42:18,208 Um, halfway, we started the, um, editing, 819 00:42:18,252 --> 00:42:21,037 post-production on this film in July. 820 00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:24,301 And, uh, lo and behold, we hit a few problems. 821 00:42:24,345 --> 00:42:28,131 And, uh, sadly, we don't have the whole film here today. 822 00:42:28,741 --> 00:42:33,702 And I really do apologize. But what you will see is 15 minutes, 823 00:42:33,746 --> 00:42:37,967 sorry, of the film that shows exactly what we were doing 824 00:42:38,011 --> 00:42:41,754 and how much fun it is and how great your area looks 825 00:42:41,797 --> 00:42:44,626 and all the people that were in this film. 826 00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:47,629 Uh, I don't want to belay to the point and keep apologizing 827 00:42:47,673 --> 00:42:49,413 because you guys are great and I think it's a fun film 828 00:42:49,457 --> 00:42:51,720 and I know it's going to go places. 829 00:42:51,764 --> 00:42:53,983 And I'm having one of those really bad summers, so... 830 00:42:54,897 --> 00:42:58,814 and I apologize. If I was more energetic, I could've made this happen. 831 00:42:59,685 --> 00:43:02,557 But, um, I'm going to turn it over to, uh, to see it, right? 832 00:43:02,601 --> 00:43:03,993 And then if you have any questions, 833 00:43:04,037 --> 00:43:05,734 I'd be glad to answer those afterwards 834 00:43:05,778 --> 00:43:08,302 about where this is going and what happened to it 835 00:43:08,345 --> 00:43:09,608 and everything that's going on. 836 00:43:10,260 --> 00:43:13,394 -Thank you. -[audience applauds] 837 00:43:21,315 --> 00:43:23,622 [upbeat music] 838 00:43:25,406 --> 00:43:27,451 ♪ Oh, amazing 839 00:43:29,453 --> 00:43:32,021 ♪ I can't get ahead no, without trying ♪ 840 00:43:32,805 --> 00:43:36,635 ♪ Everything is out-of-pocket somebody do something ♪ 841 00:43:37,461 --> 00:43:39,420 ♪ The perfect situation is abstract ♪ 842 00:43:39,463 --> 00:43:41,509 -[splashes] -♪ Listen 843 00:43:43,511 --> 00:43:44,555 [man] Oh, yeah. 844 00:43:45,295 --> 00:43:46,209 Go on. 845 00:43:47,471 --> 00:43:49,517 Oh, yeah, we got him, we got the money. 846 00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:53,521 [Tom] It was chopped up pieces of movie that I couldn't make no sense of. 847 00:43:54,087 --> 00:43:55,610 I don't know if it was to be deceitful 848 00:43:55,654 --> 00:43:57,699 or just to put something in front of you, 849 00:43:57,743 --> 00:43:59,353 but there was nothing there. 850 00:44:01,007 --> 00:44:03,836 [Zac] I had invited a bunch of people, my family was there. 851 00:44:05,489 --> 00:44:08,754 I'm just watching these scenes go by, 852 00:44:08,797 --> 00:44:11,626 waiting to catch a glimpse of myself. 853 00:44:13,497 --> 00:44:15,282 And it was like nothing. 854 00:44:15,325 --> 00:44:16,805 No shots of me. 855 00:44:16,849 --> 00:44:19,112 No shots of Narrowsburg at all. 856 00:44:19,155 --> 00:44:22,419 Just these terrible scenes with these gangsters. 857 00:44:22,463 --> 00:44:25,118 Fuck, you're in a fucking country club. 858 00:44:25,161 --> 00:44:26,641 Show some class. 859 00:44:26,685 --> 00:44:29,339 [Jocelyne] I was feeling so ashamed, 860 00:44:29,383 --> 00:44:31,124 and I think I left the theater. 861 00:44:31,167 --> 00:44:35,389 Everyone was so furious about it. 862 00:44:35,432 --> 00:44:36,825 Nobody move! 863 00:44:36,869 --> 00:44:38,348 Hands in the air! 864 00:44:40,481 --> 00:44:43,310 [high tone] 865 00:44:47,096 --> 00:44:50,230 [uneasy music] 866 00:44:50,273 --> 00:44:51,666 [Brian] And then the lights came up 867 00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:53,624 and then they were like, "That's it. 868 00:44:53,668 --> 00:44:56,758 Okay, you know, you can get out of here or whatever." 869 00:44:58,499 --> 00:45:00,893 [Tom] There was that, uh, horrific silence 870 00:45:01,850 --> 00:45:03,591 that nobody says nothing. 871 00:45:03,634 --> 00:45:05,506 Some people in the crowd gasped. 872 00:45:05,549 --> 00:45:07,726 And I said to myself, "They're the investors." 873 00:45:08,988 --> 00:45:11,468 It hit me, I said, "If it ain't a scam, 874 00:45:11,512 --> 00:45:13,819 it's something that went really, really wrong." 875 00:45:15,472 --> 00:45:18,388 [Joe] The kid, Zac, he's almost in tears. 876 00:45:19,128 --> 00:45:21,783 I had no idea the amount of money 877 00:45:21,827 --> 00:45:25,308 or the amount of emotion that his family put into this movie. 878 00:45:25,352 --> 00:45:26,440 I felt horrible. 879 00:45:26,962 --> 00:45:28,747 And his father, he's got like this, 880 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:30,531 yeah, I can tell with his face, his face is all tense, 881 00:45:30,574 --> 00:45:32,402 and he's drawing these steel eyes at me, 882 00:45:32,446 --> 00:45:34,796 and he just wanted, he want-- 883 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,667 he wanted to take his anger out on me. 884 00:45:37,799 --> 00:45:40,584 I mean, taking out Richard and his wife and Jocelyne 885 00:45:40,628 --> 00:45:42,499 and Richard, go, complain to them. 886 00:45:42,543 --> 00:45:44,893 I was trying to save that movie. 887 00:45:44,937 --> 00:45:46,503 And I was trying to get it done 888 00:45:46,547 --> 00:45:47,809 so those people would have something 889 00:45:47,853 --> 00:45:48,984 and I would have something. 890 00:45:50,246 --> 00:45:53,859 What was overarching was the fact 891 00:45:53,902 --> 00:45:57,036 that I was not going to do this. 892 00:45:57,776 --> 00:46:01,997 I was not, I wasn't going to be an actor, that was it. 893 00:46:02,911 --> 00:46:06,697 I could not deal with that... sort of thing 894 00:46:06,741 --> 00:46:07,916 happening to me again. 895 00:46:10,092 --> 00:46:12,529 [Brian] We all went out on the street 896 00:46:12,573 --> 00:46:15,097 and there were people just, like, 897 00:46:15,141 --> 00:46:18,057 running like, "Look, where-- what the hell? Where is Richie? 898 00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:21,582 Where is Jo, where are they?" And that's when the town... 899 00:46:22,626 --> 00:46:24,933 went from "We love you" to "We hate you." 900 00:46:26,152 --> 00:46:28,763 And that, you know, there was real violence in the air. 901 00:46:31,113 --> 00:46:34,638 Search every ravine, every crevice, 902 00:46:34,682 --> 00:46:36,727 but the fiend must be found! 903 00:46:36,771 --> 00:46:37,903 [crowd clamors] 904 00:46:39,643 --> 00:46:40,862 [dogs bark] 905 00:46:42,037 --> 00:46:43,952 [uneasy music] 906 00:46:56,747 --> 00:46:59,011 [Cecilia] There were people knocking on the office door after the film. 907 00:46:59,750 --> 00:47:01,361 [knocking on door] 908 00:47:01,404 --> 00:47:02,623 Never anybody there. 909 00:47:03,058 --> 00:47:04,799 It's like they, in the middle of the night-- 910 00:47:04,843 --> 00:47:05,974 They disappeared. 911 00:47:06,018 --> 00:47:07,062 So then I knew, 912 00:47:07,106 --> 00:47:09,108 I says, "The jig is up." 913 00:47:09,151 --> 00:47:11,893 Now everybody knows something's wrong with this whole picture. 914 00:47:11,937 --> 00:47:14,635 [man] The man's a by god spellbinder. 915 00:47:14,678 --> 00:47:15,636 I want my money back! 916 00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:17,203 I want his hide! 917 00:47:17,246 --> 00:47:19,205 Find him and bring him over to the high school, 918 00:47:19,248 --> 00:47:21,207 roped and hogtied if you have to. 919 00:47:23,252 --> 00:47:25,298 [Brian] When we woke up in the morning, 920 00:47:25,341 --> 00:47:28,170 we drove to the main office, 921 00:47:28,214 --> 00:47:31,260 and there was nobody in the office, 922 00:47:31,304 --> 00:47:33,349 the computers, they were gone. 923 00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:36,091 There was nothing left there. 924 00:47:36,135 --> 00:47:38,137 There was someone there that said, 925 00:47:38,180 --> 00:47:41,357 the police were looking for Jocelyne 926 00:47:41,401 --> 00:47:43,925 or maybe they were just saying Richie. 927 00:47:43,969 --> 00:47:46,885 But they-- they had found a passport with the picture 928 00:47:46,928 --> 00:47:49,670 that had been cut out. [chuckles] 929 00:47:49,713 --> 00:47:51,280 I don't know what to make of that. 930 00:47:51,324 --> 00:47:54,066 They found a passport with a picture cut out. 931 00:47:55,154 --> 00:47:56,851 [Cecilia] I think there was one in here... 932 00:47:57,983 --> 00:48:00,028 when the story first broke, right? 933 00:48:00,072 --> 00:48:01,377 In The Times Herald-Record. 934 00:48:01,987 --> 00:48:04,728 This is the one from, uh, Times Herald-Record. 935 00:48:06,078 --> 00:48:08,254 I think this was the front page, headline. 936 00:48:11,692 --> 00:48:13,868 Then it started snowballing. 937 00:48:13,912 --> 00:48:16,001 [Cecilia] It grows quickly in a small town. 938 00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:18,960 [Tom] Everybody said they were con artists. 939 00:48:20,266 --> 00:48:22,442 Every couple of days you see somebody else 940 00:48:22,485 --> 00:48:23,617 came out of the woodwork. 941 00:48:25,227 --> 00:48:26,837 [man] Hundreds of thousands of dollars 942 00:48:26,881 --> 00:48:28,622 that he had gotten from people, 943 00:48:28,665 --> 00:48:30,015 where did all this money go? 944 00:48:31,103 --> 00:48:33,801 [uneasy, somber music] 945 00:48:37,022 --> 00:48:38,980 [Lurch] He playing the whole damn thing, top to bottom. 946 00:48:39,024 --> 00:48:41,809 I mean, come on. They did a couple little scenes on Main Street, 947 00:48:41,852 --> 00:48:43,332 a cop car go up and down. 948 00:48:43,376 --> 00:48:45,769 I think he gave everybody a big fucking farce. 949 00:48:46,248 --> 00:48:48,685 And he came up here deliberately to fuck everybody. 950 00:48:51,471 --> 00:48:53,952 Things started to come out about him, you know. 951 00:48:53,995 --> 00:48:55,692 It wasn't a bank that he robbed. 952 00:48:55,736 --> 00:48:57,477 It was like a shoe store. 953 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,740 It was, like, the story shifted, 954 00:48:59,783 --> 00:49:01,916 and it was no longer glamorous. 955 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,137 It was, like, he was, he had been lying. 956 00:49:05,180 --> 00:49:06,529 My name is Detective Wyatt. 957 00:49:06,573 --> 00:49:08,314 [Larry] His real name is Castaldo, 958 00:49:08,357 --> 00:49:11,273 okay? The key there with Richie was 959 00:49:11,317 --> 00:49:14,015 that he used Castellano as the name. 960 00:49:14,059 --> 00:49:17,888 Paul Castellano was head of the Gambinos, you know. 961 00:49:18,411 --> 00:49:19,673 But he had been dead for years, 962 00:49:19,716 --> 00:49:21,501 so what's he going to do, you know? 963 00:49:22,154 --> 00:49:23,503 Say, "You can't use my name?" 964 00:49:24,634 --> 00:49:26,767 [slow relaxed music] 965 00:49:28,203 --> 00:49:30,379 [Brian] After the festival, 966 00:49:30,423 --> 00:49:32,729 I saw there was a newspaper article, 967 00:49:32,773 --> 00:49:35,254 and on the front page was Richie. 968 00:49:35,906 --> 00:49:39,998 And it says, "Fallen Star's Film Fiasco." 969 00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:45,394 Finally, Richie showed up in the town and he goes, 970 00:49:45,438 --> 00:49:49,050 "Hey, did you see I made the papers' front page? 971 00:49:49,094 --> 00:49:54,577 They call me a star, a fallen star, but a star, right?" 972 00:49:56,275 --> 00:49:58,712 [Zac] He was on Main Street, wasted. 973 00:49:58,755 --> 00:50:03,021 He's not in his suit anymore, he's in, like, sweatpants and like a wifebeater, 974 00:50:03,064 --> 00:50:05,545 and, like, he's just chain smoking and screaming. 975 00:50:05,588 --> 00:50:08,374 "I'm a fallen star, star, star." 976 00:50:09,984 --> 00:50:12,900 He was, like, at the end of his rope, you know. 977 00:50:13,683 --> 00:50:15,598 And he's been in a fight. 978 00:50:15,642 --> 00:50:18,166 [tense music] 979 00:50:25,956 --> 00:50:27,480 Get the fuck, get the fuck off, 980 00:50:27,523 --> 00:50:30,004 get the fucking [mumbles]. 981 00:50:30,048 --> 00:50:32,050 [tense music] 982 00:50:37,055 --> 00:50:38,708 [car crashing] 983 00:50:40,232 --> 00:50:42,843 [dramatic opera music] 984 00:50:50,416 --> 00:50:52,679 [Zac] I think he knew it was over at that point. 985 00:50:53,593 --> 00:50:55,029 I don't think there was much to do 986 00:50:55,073 --> 00:50:58,250 besides get drunk and just wait 987 00:50:58,293 --> 00:51:00,600 for all the bad stuff that was about to come. 988 00:51:00,643 --> 00:51:02,906 I mean, I think he knew it was going to crash down. 989 00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:06,084 [Bobby] Officer, what are you doing, officer? 990 00:51:06,736 --> 00:51:08,042 Wait a second [mumbles]. 991 00:51:13,613 --> 00:51:15,397 -[Bobby] Go inside! -[police officer] Shut up, Bobby. 992 00:51:15,441 --> 00:51:17,007 [Bobby] No, don't tell me to shut up! 993 00:51:18,748 --> 00:51:21,099 [siren wails] 994 00:51:21,142 --> 00:51:22,926 [police radio chatter] 995 00:51:24,189 --> 00:51:26,191 [dramatic music] 996 00:51:27,061 --> 00:51:29,759 [Tracy] I'll be in sight to the Richard Castellano story 997 00:51:29,803 --> 00:51:32,240 -in Sullivan County. -It does appear to be on its way. 998 00:51:32,284 --> 00:51:35,156 The actor featured in the movie Analyze This, 999 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,072 Richard Castellano, who was brought to the county jail 1000 00:51:38,116 --> 00:51:42,120 last night, face Judge Frank LaBuda in court today. 1001 00:51:42,163 --> 00:51:44,383 Castellano was charged with grand larceny 1002 00:51:44,426 --> 00:51:47,037 after promising people Screen Actors Guild cards. 1003 00:51:47,473 --> 00:51:50,563 Sentencing and restitution will be discussed tomorrow. 1004 00:51:51,694 --> 00:51:54,044 There were many charges pending against Richard. 1005 00:51:54,088 --> 00:51:56,395 But the charges that ultimately appeared 1006 00:51:56,438 --> 00:51:59,354 in an indictment were several felony charges 1007 00:51:59,398 --> 00:52:02,618 for taking money from would-be actors 1008 00:52:02,662 --> 00:52:05,186 and promising them a union card, 1009 00:52:05,230 --> 00:52:08,189 and a fraud charge where he obtained 1010 00:52:08,233 --> 00:52:11,018 substantial money from a local farmer. 1011 00:52:11,061 --> 00:52:14,195 I could say when he appeared in court, he was an actor. 1012 00:52:15,501 --> 00:52:18,025 [Ralph] When he tried to convince the court of something, 1013 00:52:18,068 --> 00:52:21,071 he acted like he was starring in a movie, 1014 00:52:21,115 --> 00:52:22,899 and he's always looking around to make sure 1015 00:52:22,943 --> 00:52:24,031 that he had the audience. 1016 00:52:24,727 --> 00:52:26,903 I believe at times, he 1017 00:52:26,947 --> 00:52:29,950 could not tell the difference between reality... 1018 00:52:30,472 --> 00:52:33,301 uh, and, and a movie that he was creating in his own mind. 1019 00:52:34,476 --> 00:52:36,304 On his judgment day, so to speak, 1020 00:52:36,348 --> 00:52:39,742 case was called and there was no Richard Castellano. 1021 00:52:39,786 --> 00:52:43,572 The attorney stated that, uh, he had had a psychiatric breakdown. 1022 00:52:43,616 --> 00:52:46,227 He made a good faith effort to repay the money, 1023 00:52:46,271 --> 00:52:48,534 but he hasn't paid it all yet, um, 1024 00:52:48,577 --> 00:52:51,145 mostly because of his medical problems. He's been in the hospital. 1025 00:52:51,189 --> 00:52:54,366 Victims should be made whole because of the scam he pulled. 1026 00:52:54,409 --> 00:52:57,064 [Ralph] There was one time where he tried to feint a heart attack. 1027 00:52:57,107 --> 00:52:59,414 He stands up and he starts to say something, 1028 00:52:59,458 --> 00:53:03,375 then he goes into one of his, "Oh, something's wrong, 1029 00:53:03,418 --> 00:53:06,726 something's wrong, I, oh, I feel, oh, I feel weak. 1030 00:53:06,769 --> 00:53:10,512 I can't see. Oh, oh, something's, oh, something's awful wrong." 1031 00:53:10,556 --> 00:53:12,732 And he gropes around, found the chair. 1032 00:53:12,775 --> 00:53:14,386 I looked at the deputy and he said, 1033 00:53:15,213 --> 00:53:16,953 "He does this all the time in the jail." 1034 00:53:16,997 --> 00:53:18,520 [Dawn] Aside of a plea deal, 1035 00:53:18,564 --> 00:53:20,566 Castellano promised to pay them back, 1036 00:53:20,609 --> 00:53:23,177 and would be sentenced to a year behind bars. 1037 00:53:23,221 --> 00:53:25,484 This morning, Castellano apologized. 1038 00:53:25,527 --> 00:53:27,312 You've been very respectable judge. 1039 00:53:27,355 --> 00:53:29,531 I appreciate that, it's almost good to [mumbles] 1040 00:53:29,575 --> 00:53:32,273 so, I, I have no, no complaints, 1041 00:53:32,317 --> 00:53:34,754 and I'm sorry for what happened. 1042 00:53:35,537 --> 00:53:39,106 [Dawn] Judge LaBuda says Jeffrey Schwartz, Castellano's attorney, 1043 00:53:39,149 --> 00:53:41,630 doesn't want to represent his client anymore. 1044 00:53:41,674 --> 00:53:43,371 LaBuda says that is still long with the... 1045 00:53:43,415 --> 00:53:44,938 Bang, they locked me up. 1046 00:53:46,635 --> 00:53:49,725 And I wind up in mother effing jail. 1047 00:53:52,075 --> 00:53:54,339 Like, they were saying we had no film in the camera. 1048 00:53:55,122 --> 00:53:58,212 There were people saying we had no film in the camera! 1049 00:53:58,734 --> 00:54:00,823 I get mad when I think of it, 1050 00:54:00,867 --> 00:54:02,347 because they were trying to hurt me so bad. 1051 00:54:03,870 --> 00:54:06,742 The DA, he thought he had a big fish 1052 00:54:06,786 --> 00:54:09,528 in a small pond, you know? 1053 00:54:09,571 --> 00:54:12,574 Richie Castellano, the ex-mobster-turned-actor. 1054 00:54:13,053 --> 00:54:15,011 They thought they had the big one. 1055 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:18,319 Well, open your eyes. 1056 00:54:18,363 --> 00:54:19,712 You got nobody! 1057 00:54:21,191 --> 00:54:23,977 That you got nobody but a regular innocent actor. 1058 00:54:24,978 --> 00:54:27,633 I'll see you guys, try to snap up my cell before I leave, all right? 1059 00:54:27,676 --> 00:54:29,809 -Of course. -Be good and remember, write me. 1060 00:54:30,853 --> 00:54:32,115 Take care, Bobby. 1061 00:54:33,073 --> 00:54:35,205 To me, it's nothing to hold people money, 1062 00:54:35,249 --> 00:54:37,860 so that's why maybe I don't get excited like kids do. 1063 00:54:38,905 --> 00:54:41,995 You think it's a good story, I think it's a fucking boring story. 1064 00:54:43,257 --> 00:54:45,041 Maybe I'm interesting. 1065 00:54:45,477 --> 00:54:46,913 The story sucks. 1066 00:54:48,523 --> 00:54:49,655 That's all I can say. 1067 00:54:50,612 --> 00:54:52,745 [producer] Can you tell me about, um, uh, 1068 00:54:52,788 --> 00:54:54,790 the premiere of the-- 1069 00:54:54,834 --> 00:54:58,098 what was supposed to be the premier of Four Deadly Reasons... 1070 00:54:58,141 --> 00:55:00,361 -Yeah. -...and, but the editor had only 1071 00:55:00,405 --> 00:55:02,581 been able to edit maybe ten minutes of footage? 1072 00:55:02,624 --> 00:55:04,844 We had to-- we had to, uh, what do you call that? 1073 00:55:05,540 --> 00:55:06,889 A premiere, yeah. 1074 00:55:07,412 --> 00:55:09,588 Where you got dressed with tuxedos and everything. 1075 00:55:10,415 --> 00:55:13,374 [producer] But then I have, like, only ten minutes of footage was, 1076 00:55:13,418 --> 00:55:16,856 was ready? Do you remember that? 1077 00:55:16,899 --> 00:55:19,293 No, I don't remember that. I remember seeing the whole movie. 1078 00:55:19,337 --> 00:55:20,686 What are you talking about? 1079 00:55:22,296 --> 00:55:24,298 Are you sure you know what you're talking about? 1080 00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:27,127 When I went there, I watched the whole movie. 1081 00:55:27,170 --> 00:55:29,956 I don't know which fence you went to. 1082 00:55:32,872 --> 00:55:33,829 Never heard of that. 1083 00:55:33,873 --> 00:55:35,353 Ten minutes of the movie? 1084 00:55:36,484 --> 00:55:37,659 Are you sure? 1085 00:55:40,009 --> 00:55:42,011 I really can't answer that, I don't know what that-- 1086 00:55:42,055 --> 00:55:43,926 what happened with that ten minutes. 1087 00:55:44,797 --> 00:55:46,146 I don't remember that. 1088 00:55:50,629 --> 00:55:52,457 [projector whirs] 1089 00:55:57,723 --> 00:56:02,336 [somber, whimsical music] 1090 00:56:15,131 --> 00:56:17,220 [John Conway] To read about some of these people 1091 00:56:17,264 --> 00:56:19,571 who had given their life savings to this man, 1092 00:56:19,614 --> 00:56:21,921 and just ended up with absolutely nothing 1093 00:56:21,964 --> 00:56:24,445 to show for, um, I can only imagine 1094 00:56:24,489 --> 00:56:26,882 what it must have done to them. 1095 00:56:37,371 --> 00:56:39,373 I lent him a lot of money. 1096 00:56:39,417 --> 00:56:42,332 I think I lent him close to 15-20,000. 1097 00:56:44,813 --> 00:56:48,600 It probably was not more than 50,000. 1098 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,300 [Steve] I remember going to the bank, 1099 00:56:53,343 --> 00:56:57,347 I used a couple of Visa cards to get the cash. 1100 00:56:57,391 --> 00:57:00,568 I walked out the door and I gave it to him, 1101 00:57:00,612 --> 00:57:04,572 and I just remember the smile he had on his, his, uh, you know, 1102 00:57:04,616 --> 00:57:06,748 "Oh, you're amazing, Doc," you know. 1103 00:57:07,314 --> 00:57:09,621 To give someone money like that, 1104 00:57:09,664 --> 00:57:12,145 you have to hope and then dream or believe. 1105 00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:14,887 He said, "You're going to get a part in the movie," 1106 00:57:14,930 --> 00:57:16,279 and that was the hook. 1107 00:57:17,367 --> 00:57:21,154 He made me feel like I was going to go some place. 1108 00:57:30,250 --> 00:57:33,166 [Dr. Paul] It was like a very fast thing, like, they needed cash. 1109 00:57:33,819 --> 00:57:35,603 I said, "I, I'm not going to give you that amount." 1110 00:57:35,647 --> 00:57:37,997 He said, "You have to, we really need it." 1111 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,042 "Okay, I'll give you a check." 1112 00:57:40,086 --> 00:57:41,740 But when I went to cash the check, 1113 00:57:42,741 --> 00:57:44,612 there was no money in the account. 1114 00:57:45,570 --> 00:57:47,006 I felt at that point 1115 00:57:47,572 --> 00:57:50,357 that I was had, and that these people were swindlers. 1116 00:57:51,227 --> 00:57:54,404 [uneasy music] 1117 00:57:58,408 --> 00:58:00,759 [pensive string music] 1118 00:58:02,456 --> 00:58:05,111 -[man] We're making a documentary over here. -[woman] There we go. 1119 00:58:05,154 --> 00:58:07,679 -This is the man. -[man] All right. 1120 00:58:07,722 --> 00:58:09,550 I respect him, I love him like a father, 1121 00:58:09,594 --> 00:58:11,596 This guys never wannabe-- 1122 00:58:12,597 --> 00:58:14,642 [Tom] Now, I don't know everybody that gave him money. 1123 00:58:14,686 --> 00:58:16,688 The only guy I know for sure was John Borg. 1124 00:58:18,124 --> 00:58:20,430 And, uh, he thought he was going to be in the movie. 1125 00:58:21,083 --> 00:58:23,521 [Lurch] That was, that was over a $100,000. 1126 00:58:23,564 --> 00:58:25,784 He was having a heart attack, "Oh, my God, 1127 00:58:25,827 --> 00:58:28,917 I gave him almost my entire fucking life savings." 1128 00:58:28,961 --> 00:58:31,877 And he died, he died a few months right after that. That was it. 1129 00:58:33,792 --> 00:58:35,924 Gloria is a retired music teacher. 1130 00:58:36,621 --> 00:58:40,842 Whether he knew that there were dementia issues going on, 1131 00:58:40,886 --> 00:58:44,542 I don't know, but she gave him over a $120,000. 1132 00:58:46,892 --> 00:58:50,939 This note says, "Keep it quiet because I'll go to jail. 1133 00:58:50,983 --> 00:58:53,551 We don't need their investigating you." 1134 00:58:54,639 --> 00:58:56,423 I think as she got deeper and deeper, 1135 00:58:57,163 --> 00:58:58,904 it just became, like, her little secret 1136 00:58:58,947 --> 00:59:00,949 because she didn't, she didn't share with her husband, 1137 00:59:00,993 --> 00:59:02,298 she didn't share with anybody. 1138 00:59:05,214 --> 00:59:07,086 [birds chirp] 1139 00:59:13,005 --> 00:59:15,616 [John Marchese] I'm a writer and journalist, 1140 00:59:15,660 --> 00:59:18,967 and I thought this has to be written about. 1141 00:59:19,011 --> 00:59:20,752 Uh, I went in to see Richie, 1142 00:59:20,795 --> 00:59:23,755 and he was feeling, 1143 00:59:23,798 --> 00:59:26,975 obviously, that he had been caught and trapped at that point. 1144 00:59:27,454 --> 00:59:29,630 And I remember he showed me, I think, 1145 00:59:29,674 --> 00:59:31,589 this notebook he had been keeping, 1146 00:59:31,632 --> 00:59:32,981 or something like kind of legal pad 1147 00:59:33,025 --> 00:59:34,940 where he had been writing stuff. 1148 00:59:34,983 --> 00:59:37,464 And on that pad, he had written, 1149 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,686 "I'm Richie Castellano, a fallen star." 1150 00:59:44,514 --> 00:59:48,214 So I have to admit that there was something charming about him. 1151 00:59:48,257 --> 00:59:51,086 And I don't think that his charm 1152 00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:53,436 was completely based on fraud. 1153 00:59:56,352 --> 00:59:58,180 [man] So what are you going to do if you get out? 1154 00:59:58,224 --> 01:00:00,661 [Richie] Make love to my wife, Jocelyne, the whole day. 1155 01:00:00,705 --> 01:00:03,490 -[man] All right.[chuckles] -[Richie] But-- and what's funny is 1156 01:00:03,533 --> 01:00:06,711 as long as I've been here, I miss her more and more, and I love her more and more. 1157 01:00:06,754 --> 01:00:10,192 It took me three months, uh, two and a half months to get this girl in bed. 1158 01:00:10,236 --> 01:00:13,065 -[man] Wow! -[Richie] And that's why I love her, Sam and Joe, 1159 01:00:13,108 --> 01:00:16,242 a lot of guys, they were thinking, "I don't worry about that with my wife." 1160 01:00:16,285 --> 01:00:18,853 When I said that, "You're not going to run away on me, are you?" 1161 01:00:18,897 --> 01:00:23,771 "Are you crazy? Because again, I'm your wife, why would I leave you now?" 1162 01:00:23,815 --> 01:00:25,773 I don't think she's ever run away from me. 1163 01:00:28,733 --> 01:00:31,344 [John Marchese] Jocelyne was being hounded, too, 1164 01:00:31,387 --> 01:00:33,476 but I was trying to find her. 1165 01:00:34,173 --> 01:00:37,611 All I knew was that she had gone into hiding. 1166 01:00:37,655 --> 01:00:39,961 She was just the mystery woman all along. 1167 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,747 Everybody could talk about Richie. 1168 01:00:43,704 --> 01:00:45,663 No one really could talk about Jocelyne. 1169 01:00:46,620 --> 01:00:49,710 I, I don't think his wife was involved with the schemes 1170 01:00:49,754 --> 01:00:53,714 and she was never, uh, charged at any level 1171 01:00:53,758 --> 01:00:55,890 with being involved in the schemes to defraud. 1172 01:00:56,804 --> 01:00:59,328 I think a lot of people thought she was just along for the ride. 1173 01:00:59,851 --> 01:01:01,287 You know, what people told me? 1174 01:01:01,330 --> 01:01:03,506 That she was the brains of the operation. 1175 01:01:03,550 --> 01:01:04,682 He was along for the ride. 1176 01:01:06,074 --> 01:01:07,946 I don't know if that's true or not, 1177 01:01:07,989 --> 01:01:09,251 but that's what I heard. 1178 01:01:11,950 --> 01:01:15,388 I do recall having a conversation with, with Jocelyne, 1179 01:01:15,431 --> 01:01:20,523 where she, uh, told me that she was a descendant of the Habsburg dynasty, 1180 01:01:20,567 --> 01:01:23,091 and, uh, how she escaped in the middle of the night 1181 01:01:23,135 --> 01:01:24,919 with, with some of their fortune. 1182 01:01:26,312 --> 01:01:27,705 Some of the things that she said 1183 01:01:27,748 --> 01:01:29,010 didn't historically add up. 1184 01:01:31,273 --> 01:01:33,362 [Dr. Paul] I do remember something like Jocelyne 1185 01:01:33,406 --> 01:01:37,236 having some royalty in her, like royalty in France 1186 01:01:37,279 --> 01:01:38,759 or in one of those countries. 1187 01:01:41,022 --> 01:01:43,111 [Rich] She told me that her family owned an island, 1188 01:01:43,155 --> 01:01:45,113 her family was like billionaires. 1189 01:01:45,157 --> 01:01:46,898 She said she owned Mustang Films 1190 01:01:46,941 --> 01:01:48,682 and it was a big film company. 1191 01:01:50,423 --> 01:01:51,990 [Zac] I'm organizing some of her files. 1192 01:01:52,033 --> 01:01:53,731 I remember pamphlets of movies 1193 01:01:53,774 --> 01:01:55,167 that she had supposedly produced 1194 01:01:55,210 --> 01:01:56,908 without her name on them. 1195 01:01:56,951 --> 01:02:00,302 She was a lot harder to pin down than he was. 1196 01:02:02,783 --> 01:02:05,830 [Brian] I think Richie had dreams of making a movie. 1197 01:02:06,308 --> 01:02:09,442 I think Richie wanted to be the center of attention 1198 01:02:09,485 --> 01:02:12,488 at a film festival, and Jocelyne probably being 1199 01:02:12,532 --> 01:02:14,273 the much more intelligent, 1200 01:02:14,316 --> 01:02:17,450 knew the reality of it would just be so much easier 1201 01:02:17,493 --> 01:02:18,973 to just take the money and run. 1202 01:02:19,017 --> 01:02:22,020 [somber music] 1203 01:02:31,072 --> 01:02:33,858 I know I do not leave men, uh, indifferent 1204 01:02:33,901 --> 01:02:35,598 one way or another, 1205 01:02:35,642 --> 01:02:37,949 and I think this has been my curse a little, you know. 1206 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,561 I was not involved, really I was, 1207 01:02:41,604 --> 01:02:43,650 you know, you can be guilty by association 1208 01:02:43,693 --> 01:02:45,391 but you need to prove that. 1209 01:02:45,434 --> 01:02:48,350 I was not accused of anything in Narrowsburg, you know. 1210 01:02:48,394 --> 01:02:52,790 And believe me, the DA was looking, he was looking. 1211 01:02:56,750 --> 01:02:58,970 In Narrowsburg I did not understand 1212 01:02:59,013 --> 01:03:00,754 where did all this money go? 1213 01:03:01,624 --> 01:03:04,540 And, you know, one day did my own detective work, 1214 01:03:04,584 --> 01:03:07,717 you know, and I found out Richard had problem with gambling. 1215 01:03:09,850 --> 01:03:12,070 I did confront, I did confront Richard 1216 01:03:12,113 --> 01:03:15,551 regarding horse's affairs and horse's money issues, 1217 01:03:16,378 --> 01:03:18,728 but Richard is a very smooth talker, 1218 01:03:18,772 --> 01:03:21,035 and he would always say that was crazy, 1219 01:03:21,079 --> 01:03:22,776 you know, just kind of answers 1220 01:03:22,820 --> 01:03:25,431 that men sometimes can say to woman, you know. 1221 01:03:26,214 --> 01:03:28,477 I had a hunch, I thought we could turn this dollar 1222 01:03:28,521 --> 01:03:30,958 into some real money, pay off Sapiro 1223 01:03:31,002 --> 01:03:33,134 and have some left for ourselves and the kid. 1224 01:03:35,789 --> 01:03:37,791 Nobody's coming looking for us, okay? 1225 01:03:38,705 --> 01:03:41,012 [Jocelyne] You are in a corner and where do you go from there? 1226 01:03:41,621 --> 01:03:43,710 There is a lion in front of you and, you know, 1227 01:03:43,753 --> 01:03:45,364 and you can't move, you know. 1228 01:03:46,191 --> 01:03:49,063 That's how I was feeling at that time, 1229 01:03:49,107 --> 01:03:50,891 most of the time I was with Richard. 1230 01:03:51,892 --> 01:03:54,808 [uneasy music] 1231 01:03:57,855 --> 01:04:01,075 I mean, after leaving that drama in Narrowsburg 1232 01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:03,556 and everything else that goes with it, 1233 01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:08,430 the DA, the police, um, the shame. 1234 01:04:11,346 --> 01:04:14,262 I think I was at my lowest. [laughs] 1235 01:04:14,306 --> 01:04:18,049 And, um, I think I cried. 1236 01:04:20,138 --> 01:04:21,835 I cried for months. 1237 01:04:22,749 --> 01:04:25,883 I didn't want to exist anymore either, you know. 1238 01:04:27,972 --> 01:04:30,713 [somber music] 1239 01:04:52,779 --> 01:04:55,260 [rails clatter] 1240 01:05:01,005 --> 01:05:03,485 [siren wails] 1241 01:05:06,097 --> 01:05:08,664 [Isil] We went to the Narrowsburg Film Festival 1242 01:05:08,708 --> 01:05:10,623 with our film Under Hellgate Bridge, 1243 01:05:10,666 --> 01:05:13,365 and that's how we met Jocelyne. 1244 01:05:13,408 --> 01:05:17,108 After that festival, uh, some years went by, 1245 01:05:17,151 --> 01:05:18,979 I don't remember exactly how many years, 1246 01:05:19,023 --> 01:05:21,982 but we did hear from her via email 1247 01:05:22,026 --> 01:05:24,419 when she started the Queens Film Festival. 1248 01:05:25,464 --> 01:05:26,944 I thought, "Hey, you know, 1249 01:05:26,987 --> 01:05:28,989 maybe this is a new fresh beginning for her. 1250 01:05:30,469 --> 01:05:33,254 And I want to thank all of our filmmakers, 1251 01:05:33,298 --> 01:05:37,171 our sponsors and member of the advisory board 1252 01:05:37,215 --> 01:05:40,131 in making this film festival the best 1253 01:05:40,174 --> 01:05:43,177 I hope that we have broken new ground 1254 01:05:43,221 --> 01:05:45,658 and set the tone for another five years 1255 01:05:45,701 --> 01:05:48,313 of the best of independent film. 1256 01:05:48,966 --> 01:05:51,751 [Larry] I didn't know about the Queens Festival, 1257 01:05:52,404 --> 01:05:55,146 until I saw a friend from the movie. 1258 01:05:55,189 --> 01:05:58,236 He said, um, "You want to hear something funny?" 1259 01:05:58,279 --> 01:06:02,718 He said, "Jocelyne is running the Queens Film Festival now." 1260 01:06:02,762 --> 01:06:06,940 Festival has not only grown in size but in depth. 1261 01:06:06,984 --> 01:06:10,552 We were just like, "Wow, you know, she pulled herself together. 1262 01:06:10,596 --> 01:06:13,338 She survived that whole Narrowsburg fiasco. 1263 01:06:13,381 --> 01:06:16,645 Maybe this is, you know, a new beginning for her." 1264 01:06:16,689 --> 01:06:19,692 But what was so odd was when I saw her 1265 01:06:19,735 --> 01:06:23,174 for the first time, her name was no longer Jocelyne, 1266 01:06:23,217 --> 01:06:24,523 her name was now Marie. 1267 01:06:26,003 --> 01:06:27,265 [Larry] He said, "Yeah, she's using the same picture 1268 01:06:27,308 --> 01:06:28,788 that she used in Narrowsburg, 1269 01:06:30,703 --> 01:06:33,053 but she's using a different name under the same picture." [chuckles] 1270 01:06:33,097 --> 01:06:35,795 [Isil] We were standing in the lobby of the festival 1271 01:06:35,838 --> 01:06:38,537 and that's when somebody came up to us and said, 1272 01:06:38,580 --> 01:06:41,801 you know, they got conned by her and that she owed them money. 1273 01:06:44,586 --> 01:06:46,371 I always felt like there's something 1274 01:06:46,414 --> 01:06:48,329 not a hundred percent with Jocelyne. 1275 01:06:49,113 --> 01:06:50,679 I kind of started Googling her, 1276 01:06:50,723 --> 01:06:53,639 and, and then I found out something in California 1277 01:06:53,682 --> 01:06:55,641 about a check being bounced 1278 01:06:55,684 --> 01:06:57,164 for like a large amount of money. 1279 01:06:57,208 --> 01:06:58,905 And I started putting two and two together 1280 01:06:58,948 --> 01:07:02,735 and was like, "Wow, Jocelyne wasn't this big producer. 1281 01:07:02,778 --> 01:07:06,391 That Jocelyne has, you know, a criminal past." 1282 01:07:07,522 --> 01:07:09,263 It was surprising, I couldn't believe it. 1283 01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:15,313 Isn't that also the festival where that "Shame on you, guys, shame, shame." 1284 01:07:15,356 --> 01:07:16,662 -Chases her down the street. -Yes. 1285 01:07:18,185 --> 01:07:19,926 [news reporter] Marie Castaldo is the founder 1286 01:07:19,969 --> 01:07:22,320 and director of the Queens International Film Festival 1287 01:07:22,363 --> 01:07:24,539 but some say she's a con artist. 1288 01:07:24,583 --> 01:07:28,500 [man] They're ripping off, uh, four vendors of some $14,000. 1289 01:07:28,543 --> 01:07:30,545 You had the Narrowsburg Film Festival. 1290 01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:33,157 -You left a trail of bad debts there? -No, that's not me. 1291 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,810 [news reporter] And before Narrowsburg 1292 01:07:34,854 --> 01:07:37,335 she was in California calling herself 1293 01:07:37,378 --> 01:07:40,425 Marie Rousseau, and Marie Jocelyne Plante. 1294 01:07:40,468 --> 01:07:44,559 She left owing $40,000 in unpaid judgments 1295 01:07:44,603 --> 01:07:46,344 at the Hollywood Film Festival. 1296 01:07:46,387 --> 01:07:47,867 Actually, can I tell you something? 1297 01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:49,042 -Yes. -You do not know much, 1298 01:07:49,086 --> 01:07:50,652 uh, and I'm really sorry to see 1299 01:07:50,696 --> 01:07:51,610 that you're a reporter. 1300 01:07:52,176 --> 01:07:55,222 She has zeroed in on the fact that 1301 01:07:55,266 --> 01:07:59,661 filmmakers want to show their films and they're even willing to pay. 1302 01:08:00,184 --> 01:08:02,360 -We bought, uh, the C package. I figured that-- -How much-- 1303 01:08:02,403 --> 01:08:04,536 -How much is it? -It was like $200 for the C package. 1304 01:08:04,579 --> 01:08:05,972 -200 dollars? -Yeah. 1305 01:08:06,015 --> 01:08:08,322 Okay, to see your own film? 1306 01:08:08,366 --> 01:08:10,150 -To see our own film! -[both laughs] 1307 01:08:10,194 --> 01:08:11,630 If you get good enough people 1308 01:08:11,673 --> 01:08:13,371 that are willing to pay to show their films, 1309 01:08:13,414 --> 01:08:16,461 you can have a festival and if you have a festival, 1310 01:08:16,504 --> 01:08:18,158 then you can get sponsors. 1311 01:08:18,202 --> 01:08:19,638 And if you've got sponsors, 1312 01:08:19,681 --> 01:08:21,814 then you can charge ticket admission, 1313 01:08:21,857 --> 01:08:23,903 and the money just keeps coming in. 1314 01:08:23,946 --> 01:08:25,644 This is her specialty. 1315 01:08:27,733 --> 01:08:29,909 [Michael] I think she had a genuine wish 1316 01:08:29,952 --> 01:08:32,041 of wanting to be important in the film world. 1317 01:08:32,999 --> 01:08:35,828 I don't think she did film festivals to con people. 1318 01:08:35,871 --> 01:08:38,178 I think she wound up conning people 1319 01:08:38,222 --> 01:08:40,354 because, you know, we're in the indie film world. 1320 01:08:41,312 --> 01:08:43,444 There's always dreams out of more and bigger 1321 01:08:43,488 --> 01:08:45,403 than there is reality of making it happen. 1322 01:08:46,055 --> 01:08:48,101 [dark whimsical music] 1323 01:08:55,761 --> 01:08:59,417 I can honestly say, you fooled me. 1324 01:09:00,026 --> 01:09:02,550 Everybody invested, I gave her the money. 1325 01:09:03,943 --> 01:09:07,555 It's gone, I can't say how she did it. 1326 01:09:08,339 --> 01:09:10,906 [somber music] 1327 01:09:11,559 --> 01:09:14,519 [producer] Do you feel like you actively deceived anyone? 1328 01:09:14,562 --> 01:09:17,174 That I actively deceived anyone? No. 1329 01:09:18,175 --> 01:09:22,788 So I understand that, you know, 1330 01:09:22,831 --> 01:09:25,834 there is all this money, or there is a pattern 1331 01:09:26,487 --> 01:09:31,579 but do not try to make me feel like I am the evil person. 1332 01:09:31,623 --> 01:09:34,234 Mistake were made from all party, 1333 01:09:34,278 --> 01:09:38,195 so everyone needs to take their responsibility. 1334 01:09:38,673 --> 01:09:40,936 These people call themself my friends 1335 01:09:40,980 --> 01:09:43,548 when the wind was shifting the wrong way, 1336 01:09:43,591 --> 01:09:47,900 they were gone but then when the wind was shifting back the good way, 1337 01:09:47,943 --> 01:09:49,597 then they were back. 1338 01:09:49,641 --> 01:09:51,643 I am sorry, I prefer myself... 1339 01:09:52,861 --> 01:09:56,604 even so all of these look bad, I prefer myself, 1340 01:09:56,648 --> 01:09:59,216 I do not shift winds, okay? 1341 01:09:59,259 --> 01:10:03,045 And stop saying that I am that evil person 1342 01:10:03,089 --> 01:10:05,439 because I can say a lot more 1343 01:10:05,483 --> 01:10:07,311 about each and every one of them. 1344 01:10:07,354 --> 01:10:09,008 I am a nice person. 1345 01:10:09,617 --> 01:10:11,358 I'm just going to stop at that. 1346 01:10:13,491 --> 01:10:16,015 [light music] 1347 01:10:22,978 --> 01:10:26,939 We want to think that if a disaster happen, you know, 1348 01:10:26,982 --> 01:10:29,289 we will help on each other 1349 01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:33,119 but I do not believe, I think everyone just run for themself, you know. 1350 01:10:34,990 --> 01:10:38,994 Coming from Africa, doesn't surprise me at all, 1351 01:10:39,038 --> 01:10:42,650 the strong eats the weak, uh, you know, lion, uh, 1352 01:10:42,694 --> 01:10:46,263 you know, zebra that is wounded and you will go for it. 1353 01:10:47,829 --> 01:10:49,396 That's how I see people, you know. 1354 01:10:50,092 --> 01:10:51,920 When you're strong, people go with you, 1355 01:10:51,964 --> 01:10:53,966 and when you're weak, they go against you. 1356 01:10:54,009 --> 01:10:56,838 [soft, dark music] 1357 01:11:04,846 --> 01:11:06,500 [birds chirp] 1358 01:11:23,387 --> 01:11:28,087 The first time I saw Four Deadly Reasons was long after we had shot it. 1359 01:11:28,696 --> 01:11:30,829 It was screening at the Tribeca Screening Room. 1360 01:11:31,699 --> 01:11:33,832 It was above the Tribeca Bar and Grill. 1361 01:11:35,486 --> 01:11:37,705 [dreamy chorus music] 1362 01:11:47,106 --> 01:11:49,456 [uneasy music] 1363 01:11:56,420 --> 01:11:59,771 The life, you know what I'm talking about. 1364 01:12:01,207 --> 01:12:04,863 Sooner or later, it either puts you behind a wall 1365 01:12:05,864 --> 01:12:07,213 or under the ground. 1366 01:12:08,736 --> 01:12:11,260 [Paul] So I called up the Tribeca Screening Room and said, 1367 01:12:11,304 --> 01:12:13,088 "Hey, I'd like to book such and such date and, 1368 01:12:13,132 --> 01:12:14,960 you know, 7:00 p.m. or whatever it was." 1369 01:12:15,700 --> 01:12:17,919 It was the opening night of the Tribeca Film Festival. 1370 01:12:19,747 --> 01:12:22,141 I never told anybody that it was 1371 01:12:22,184 --> 01:12:24,317 part of the Tribeca Film Festival, I never lied, 1372 01:12:24,361 --> 01:12:27,668 I just said we're having a premiere at the Tribeca Film Center. 1373 01:12:27,712 --> 01:12:29,322 It's opening night of the Tribeca Film Festival. 1374 01:12:31,846 --> 01:12:36,851 I paid, I think, $200 for an actual red carpet. 1375 01:12:39,506 --> 01:12:42,161 And we played it for a packed audience, 300 people. 1376 01:12:42,944 --> 01:12:45,599 [uneasy, whimsical music] 1377 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,255 I just wanted to be a filmmaker and get a movie made 1378 01:12:49,298 --> 01:12:51,823 but it got so much more complex. 1379 01:12:52,389 --> 01:12:54,260 Richie, he was in jail. 1380 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:56,915 So I made a deal with the Castellanos, 1381 01:12:56,958 --> 01:12:58,699 where Joe Dinki and I did some rewrites 1382 01:12:58,743 --> 01:13:00,309 without him in order to make it work. 1383 01:13:01,876 --> 01:13:05,097 Plans, they never seem to work out. 1384 01:13:07,055 --> 01:13:10,319 Paul and I both put our own money in it, trying to save that movie. 1385 01:13:10,363 --> 01:13:12,409 But I said, "No, I want to get this finished, we're going to do it, 1386 01:13:12,452 --> 01:13:13,758 we're going to do the right thing by everybody." 1387 01:13:15,063 --> 01:13:17,283 And it has five scenes that I'm very proud of. 1388 01:13:18,197 --> 01:13:20,504 Bank robbery, there's strippers, 1389 01:13:20,547 --> 01:13:22,593 there's mob actors eating ice cream. 1390 01:13:22,636 --> 01:13:23,985 Shit! 1391 01:13:24,464 --> 01:13:26,684 [Paul] And I had this whole thing about palindromes. 1392 01:13:26,727 --> 01:13:29,513 [Bobby] You're named Otto? That's a palindrome. 1393 01:13:29,556 --> 01:13:30,949 You call me a fucking what? 1394 01:13:31,558 --> 01:13:33,212 [Bobby] You figure it out for yourself. 1395 01:13:33,255 --> 01:13:35,562 A pa-- a palindrome? 1396 01:13:36,911 --> 01:13:40,611 You don't walk away after calling me a fucking palindrome! 1397 01:13:41,742 --> 01:13:42,700 Hey! 1398 01:13:44,223 --> 01:13:46,138 [Zac] Oh, I was, um, the only person from Narrowsburg 1399 01:13:46,181 --> 01:13:47,095 at the screening. 1400 01:13:48,967 --> 01:13:51,839 Richie and Jocelyne weren't there. Richie might-- I don't think-- 1401 01:13:51,883 --> 01:13:54,973 I think Richie was out of jail at that point, but he was definitely not showing his face, 1402 01:13:55,016 --> 01:13:57,497 or-- where the-- you know, in, in this crowd. 1403 01:13:58,542 --> 01:14:00,631 And then the last thing I heard about Richie, 1404 01:14:00,674 --> 01:14:03,938 he called me and said he was thinking about, 1405 01:14:03,982 --> 01:14:06,854 like, starting another acting school 1406 01:14:06,898 --> 01:14:10,336 and, and whether or not I would be interested 1407 01:14:10,379 --> 01:14:13,557 in, like, helping him out and doing it with him. 1408 01:14:15,384 --> 01:14:19,214 I mean, had I been like, "Yeah, man, that would be awesome, let's do it!" 1409 01:14:19,258 --> 01:14:22,479 I mean, I think that maybe there would be another sort of chapter in this story. 1410 01:14:22,957 --> 01:14:24,350 [chuckles] 1411 01:14:25,569 --> 01:14:28,180 [pensive, whimsical music] 1412 01:14:30,487 --> 01:14:32,184 I don't think it was malicious 1413 01:14:32,227 --> 01:14:34,926 when he told me that I was going to be a movie star. 1414 01:14:34,969 --> 01:14:37,015 I mean, I think it was to try to make me feel good. 1415 01:14:37,929 --> 01:14:41,062 And I think he, he liked conning people. 1416 01:14:41,106 --> 01:14:44,065 I mean, he-- to trick somebody is, is addicting 1417 01:14:44,109 --> 01:14:46,764 and he was certainly like a trickster 1418 01:14:46,807 --> 01:14:49,506 and a con artist, that is absolutely true. 1419 01:14:49,549 --> 01:14:53,379 But that's different than the excitement 1420 01:14:53,422 --> 01:14:55,424 that he got from telling people 1421 01:14:55,468 --> 01:14:57,296 that he was going to put them in a movie. 1422 01:14:59,516 --> 01:15:02,214 Richie and Jocelyne awakened this thing 1423 01:15:02,257 --> 01:15:03,868 and this love for making movies. 1424 01:15:04,433 --> 01:15:06,087 -Is this where we are? -Right here, okay? 1425 01:15:06,131 --> 01:15:07,611 -We're right here, we're good? -Okay. 1426 01:15:07,654 --> 01:15:09,438 That I believe that these things are possible 1427 01:15:09,482 --> 01:15:11,484 is something that Richie taught me. 1428 01:15:16,794 --> 01:15:19,536 [slow, pensive music] 1429 01:15:33,027 --> 01:15:35,116 [engine rumbles] 1430 01:15:52,699 --> 01:15:55,267 [Joe] The blur between fantasy and reality, 1431 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,356 we all fall prey to it. 1432 01:15:58,662 --> 01:16:02,013 There's a little bit of Richard Castellano in all of us. 1433 01:16:03,188 --> 01:16:04,624 There's a little bit of flimflam, 1434 01:16:04,668 --> 01:16:06,452 there's a little bit of wanting 1435 01:16:06,495 --> 01:16:09,977 so much and not knowing how to get it... 1436 01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:15,156 and there's a little bit of, of all this chicanery 1437 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,246 that we all pull from time to time. 1438 01:16:22,555 --> 01:16:25,253 [Brian] Had it been ready, Four Deadly Reasons, 1439 01:16:25,863 --> 01:16:29,736 would he have been arrested and put in prison? 1440 01:16:30,955 --> 01:16:31,956 I don't think so. 1441 01:16:33,784 --> 01:16:36,656 Sometimes, people dream something 1442 01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:39,267 and because they're dream, they just keep saying it, 1443 01:16:39,311 --> 01:16:41,400 and it suddenly starts to become true. 1444 01:16:42,967 --> 01:16:44,795 So when is it a lie, 1445 01:16:45,752 --> 01:16:51,758 and when does the lie become a real movie, a real thing? 1446 01:16:51,802 --> 01:16:54,239 [slow, pensive music] 1447 01:16:58,330 --> 01:17:01,202 [Zac] I often describe it as, like, The Music Man 1448 01:17:01,246 --> 01:17:02,900 without the magical happy ending. 1449 01:17:05,206 --> 01:17:06,991 Suddenly, there were things to do 1450 01:17:07,774 --> 01:17:09,820 and things to be proud of. 1451 01:17:10,342 --> 01:17:11,996 Surely some of you can be grateful 1452 01:17:12,039 --> 01:17:13,911 for what this man has brought to us. 1453 01:17:15,826 --> 01:17:17,218 [Zac] The truth didn't matter. 1454 01:17:18,437 --> 01:17:21,570 It was just the possibility. 1455 01:17:23,050 --> 01:17:25,836 Possibility that these things could happen. 1456 01:17:27,925 --> 01:17:30,667 [slow, pensive music] 1457 01:17:33,887 --> 01:17:35,933 [John Marchese] I mean, I really have this theory that 1458 01:17:35,976 --> 01:17:39,588 the entire film business is built on a scam. 1459 01:17:40,764 --> 01:17:42,679 There's still people who are going to say, 1460 01:17:42,722 --> 01:17:45,551 "We lost money, we were embarrassed, 1461 01:17:45,594 --> 01:17:47,727 yet we'll be able to tell this story 1462 01:17:47,771 --> 01:17:49,120 for the rest of our lives. 1463 01:17:49,598 --> 01:17:53,733 We were ripped off in such a bizarre and unusual way 1464 01:17:53,777 --> 01:17:55,387 that it was worth it." 1465 01:17:56,518 --> 01:17:58,695 How often do you get to tell a story like that? 1466 01:18:02,394 --> 01:18:04,875 [Richie] Narrowsburg is a sleepy, beautiful town, 1467 01:18:04,918 --> 01:18:06,398 I love, I still love it. 1468 01:18:07,181 --> 01:18:09,314 And there's still people want me to come back, 1469 01:18:09,357 --> 01:18:12,230 they said, "We wish Castellano, Richie was back up here. 1470 01:18:13,187 --> 01:18:15,146 He made the place alive." 1471 01:18:17,235 --> 01:18:19,585 Like people say, "Rich, how many people in this world 1472 01:18:19,628 --> 01:18:22,370 can say they've done what you've done?" 1473 01:18:23,284 --> 01:18:27,854 You know, if I should die walking out this door, 1474 01:18:27,898 --> 01:18:29,464 I'd die with a smile on my face, 1475 01:18:29,508 --> 01:18:30,901 I'm not afraid of death. 1476 01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:35,079 You make movies and they live on, and on, and on, 1477 01:18:35,122 --> 01:18:38,082 so when you do pass on, you go hang out with God, 1478 01:18:38,952 --> 01:18:40,475 you're still alive down here. 1479 01:18:43,522 --> 01:18:45,916 [slow, pensive music] 1480 01:18:53,401 --> 01:18:56,143 [upbeat orchestral music] 1481 01:19:30,569 --> 01:19:33,964 [upbeat, playful music] 1482 01:19:34,616 --> 01:19:36,401 The story is so fascinating 1483 01:19:36,444 --> 01:19:39,839 that there were like a jillion different ways 1484 01:19:39,883 --> 01:19:42,276 that it could be told. And I... 1485 01:20:45,949 --> 01:20:48,212 Feeling fucking lucky now, Sapiro? 1486 01:20:48,821 --> 01:20:50,562 Dad, stop, please don't do this. 1487 01:20:50,605 --> 01:20:53,043 I got four fucking reasons for you. 1488 01:20:54,348 --> 01:20:56,350 Four fucking deadly reasons. 1489 01:20:56,394 --> 01:20:59,049 [dark, playful music]