-[sharp pop] -ALEX: Did you feel that?
ERIK: What the hell was that noise?
THOMAS: Something's broke inside the mesa.
ALEX: Oh, that's not good.
Travis, hey, I've got eyes on a descending light.
Are you seeing this?
THOMAS: Descending light?
ERIK: I honest to God
don't know what I'm looking at here.
Lasers coming on.
We are hitting something with the laser.
What are we hitting?
TIM: Some sort of mass.
PETE: This is one of
the terrestrial laser scans we did.
Can you look up? It does go into a cone.
KALEB: Oh, look at that.
TRAVIS: We're all inside a cone.
NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah.
It is considered the epicenter
of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth:
animal mutilations,
bizarre UFO sightings
and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans.
For 20 years, the federal government
tried to find answers and failed.
Now a new team of dedicated scientists,
researchers and experts has taken over.
They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal...
...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
Roosevelt Traffic helicopter 9-5 bravo Charlie is
three mile final runway 2-5.
TRAVIS: This morning, Erik Bard, Cameron Fugal,
Thomas Winterton, Dragon and myself
traveled about ten miles northwest
of Skinwalker Ranch to Roosevelt Airport.
ERIK: Hey there, Kendra.
KENDRA: Hey, hey. Hello, hello.
Got out here all right then, huh?
I guess so. Looks like you did, too.
-TRAVIS: Cool-looking airplane. -Well, thank you.
TRAVIS: There we met up with pilots Kendra Hart and Sam Davis
to prepare for a new experiment after making what could be
a major discovery last week.
Well, we ready for this day?
Yeah, we're excited.
TRAVIS: Using an infrared lidar scanner,
we detected a 2,000-foot-high
cone-shaped anomaly that was centered above the triangle
and had a base that was about a mile wide,
stretching all the way from Homestead Two
over to the east field.
These are three main areas where we've seen
a ton of phenomena, including UAPs...
That's a communication signal or something.
...inexplicable energy signals...
...and even invisible objects at various altitudes
that have blocked laser beams
and also deflected and destroyed rockets.
So, why are we back here today?
-What are we looking for and hoping to find? -CAMERON: Great question.
We've got something going on
in a very interesting region in the airspace above the ranch.
And so, there may be something physical there
that we'll be able to see if we put smoke into that space.
We want you to go 5,000 foot above the ranch
and then circle in a wide pattern
and then spiral down, running smoke, uh, behind you,
-and we'll see how that all turns out. -Awesome.
TRAVIS: Our plan today is to have Kendra and Sam
fly their specialized Pitts 2B airplane
nearly a mile above the triangle and also at lower altitudes.
They'll be performing a series of maneuvers
while emitting thick trails of smoke
that will blanket the entire area.
The hope is that the smoke will make contact
with the anomaly and not only confirm its presence
but also its size.
Once we know those things for sure,
we can then work to figure out
what it is, and how it may be connected to
all the strange things we've seen
in that area on the ranch.
Having you both and myself with eyes on... on each other there,
we should keep this thing running properly.
-Perfect. -ERIK: You know,
once we begin this experiment,
the plane itself becomes a scientific instrument.
It's part of the study.
So, anything unusual happening with the plane itself,
uh, whether it's electronic or mechanical,
-we're especially interested in knowing that. -KENDRA: Sounds good.
BRYANT: We're really grateful that you're gonna
come out and do this, but we want to make sure
that you guys remember that your health and safety is
first and foremost.
So if you feel off at all,
or you have any kind of equipment malfunction
or something like that, please feel free
to just abort the mission.
There's nothing worth your health and safety at all
-when it comes to this investigation. -CAMERON: Good point.
Any one of us can call this, and we'll peel off
at that point and get out of the area.
TRAVIS: We've got a lot to do. I've got to get back
and get all the instruments set up at the triangle.
I say let's get back to the ranch,
-and then let's get going. -Looking forward to this, guys.
-Thank you. -Can't wait to see you guys in the air.
KENDRA: Sounds good. Thanks.
TRAVIS: All right, looks like Cameron's in position.
Later that morning, while we were waiting
for Kendra and Sam to fly over to the ranch,
we set up a monitoring station near the triangle
with a high-speed camera that'll be taking
hundreds of frames per second during the aerial experiment.
We also had multiple antennas attached
to our spectrum analyzers to look out for
any strange signals or frequencies,
which we often detect out here
from sources that we have yet to identify.
Meanwhile, Erik Bard was stationed
in the command center
monitoring his own spectrum analyzer,
as well as a number of surveillance cameras.
Sounds like Kendra's on approach.
We're gonna paint that airspace over the ranch with smoke
and watch for any abnormal,
unnatural patterns in how that smoke moves.
If in fact we have something that is affecting
the movement of the smoke, it is entirely possible
that RF signals could be affected.
We're going to be studying that during this exercise,
as well as deploying high-speed video equipment,
and I think that's what we're interested in looking at here.
TRAVIS: To have an extra set of eyes in the air
and help communicate with Kendra and Sam,
Cameron was hovering around 2,000 feet high
but safely out of the triangle airspace.
We'll give you a cue. We'll be calling out smoke.
KALEB: 10-4, Cameron.
Holy crap, look at this!
Hey, be advised.
We're picking up a signal right on top of 1.6.
And we're only detecting it on the skyward-facing antenna,
right above the triangle area.
Isn't that weird?
Hey, thanks for that heads-up. I'll check it out.
TRAVIS: All I could think was, "Here we go again."
Right after Cameron alerted us
that Kendra's plane was approaching,
my spectrum analyzer detected
a strange radio frequency signal at 1.6 gigahertz
coming from right above the triangle.
We've detected this many times on the ranch,
including last week when we captured images
of that huge cone-shaped anomaly.
So, I couldn't wait to see what would happen
once Kendra and Sam started
painting the whole region with smoke.
KALEB: She's right there, coming overhead right now.
TRAVIS: Yeah, here she comes!
TRAVIS: She's popping smoke.
That ain't enough smoke to see!
I'm surprised.
I mean, there's not even enough smoke to see the trail.
I wonder if there's something wrong.
That's not at all what I was expecting.
Yeah, Cameron, I-I did not get a visual on the smoke at all.
THOMAS: Right off the bat, when Kendra went to emit smoke,
nothing came out.
We only saw a few small, wispy puffs of smoke.
Again, I'm wondering, you know, is this the ranch
that's interfering with it or is it something else?
She's circling above us.
TRAVIS: She's not putting out much smoke.
It was really frustrating that hardly any smoke was coming
out of the plane, which we hoped
might better identify the cone-shaped anomaly.
It's become a recurring problem that a lot of tested
and otherwise functioning tech
simply won't work for some strange reason
when we try to use it on Skinwalker Ranch.
So, the big question today was:
Why wasn't Kendra and Sam's smoke system
working correctly above the triangle?
Oh.
KENDRA: It just clicked off again for the second time.
ERIK: What the hell?
Wow.
I'm getting word that there are issues
with the smoke release system.
And now we have the issues with the alternator,
an important electrical component on the plane.
If that alternator were to fail,
it could be a problem.
This is concerning.
Kendra, what do you want to do?
Do you want to get back to Roosevelt
with that alternator acting up?
Cameron, it really bothers me.
We're seeing a lot of strange signals and things here
coming from above the triangle.
And if the alternator's not working,
I'm worried about her safety.
If she needs to go back, you tell her to go back.
We'd just started our experiment high above the triangle
when pilots Kendra Hart and Sam Davis
began having numerous mechanical problems with their aircraft.
And at the same time,
the antenna connected to my spectrum analyzer
was detecting a radio frequency signal at 1.6 gigahertz
coming from that same area.
We couldn't be sure if these things
were connected to one another,
but in the past, when we've detected signals
at 1.6 gigahertz,
we've experienced other phenomena, including UAPs.
Her oil temperature,
fluctuating when they were over us.
-Really? -[indistinct radio chatter]
KENDRA: See, so it's just moving around a lot.
Yeah, that could be an electrical, uh,
interference problem as well.
Which, again, is typical for this place.
Good call. Safety first.
CAMERON: Sounds great. We'll get you back to the airport.
TRAVIS: We had no way of being certain
if the plane's malfunctions
had anything to do with the 1.6 gigahertz signal
coming from the triangle
or some other kind of phenomena,
but it was definitely right for Kendra and Sam
to make the short flight back to Roosevelt
for a safety inspection.
-SAM: All right, here we go. -KENDRA: Wahoo.
TRAVIS: We still collected data
and had high-speed camera images to process.
CAMERON: All right, just setting down here.
TRAVIS: But we also wanted to meet back up with them
as soon as possible
to get their take
on what they experienced over the ranch today.
SAM: Just in time.
-It's good to see you back on the ground. -Wow.
-KENDRA: Y'all as well. -Glad to have you back.
Thanks. [chuckles] Glad to be back.
-What an experiment today, huh? What a flight. -Yeah.
What in the world happened to the smoke?
KENDRA: You know, your guess is as good as ours.
We tested it before we came. We tested it last night.
The tank is full.
Go to switch it on, and it sounds like
the most we were getting were little puffs.
We didn't see anything out the back.
That's all-- we could barely see it,
just for-- looked like little puffs coming out of it.
Never was a line like you'd expect.
-Okay, so yeah. -Wow.
I know you tested it, we talked about it,
and what I'm so concerned about
is the alternator, the electrical issues you had.
And that's to say nothing of all that crazy stuff
-we saw in the RF, on the spectrum analyzer. -TRAVIS: Yeah, that's right.
Did you guys notice anything other than, uh,
the equipment malfunctions?
We had some oil temperature fluctuations,
which normally, the airplane, it's very, very accurate
within a couple degrees.
-How much did it change? -It was changing 25, 30 degrees.
-Wow. -Wow.
SAM: Within seconds, just bouncing up and down.
That could just about blow the engine or something, right?
And as soon as we started heading back, it...
it stayed steady at 215 degrees.
It went away when you're not over the triangle, right?
-Yeah, yeah. Yeah. -That's crazy.
So, we appreciate you coming out again.
You have been amazing to work with.
Any chance you'd come back
and want to fly over the ranch again?
Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, guys. You're great to work with.
-Absolutely. -Awesome.
ERIK: All right, thanks for working with us.
SAM: Thanks. Yeah, you, too.
We'll stay in touch.
TRAVIS: What's going on, fellas?
I-I'm bringing up some of the data that we've, uh,
recently acquired from the Pitts plane.
-All right. -Great.
Later that night, Erik called us into the command center
after he had processed all the high-speed camera images
that were collected earlier today during the experiment.
I've got some footage that shows the helicopter passing overhead.
I'll stop there, and we'll see what you guys make of it.
This is a video recording taken from ground level
right at the triangle, looking up at the aircraft.
So I'm going to play this at its native speed.
This thing is running at 240 frames per second.
You can clearly see the rotors in motion on the helicopter.
You know, flying right over the triangle.
Wait a minute.
-There's a black spot, right there. -ERIK: Mm-hmm.
That's the one.
Let's take a look at this thing.
TRAVIS: Oh, I do see it.
ERIK: Let me take it back to the beginning.
We'll see this come into frame.
TRAVIS: This is at 240 frames per second,
so it's moving pretty fast.
ERIK: This thing's got to be moving really fast.
So, I guess the first thing we've got to rule out would be:
-Is it a bug? -Mm-hmm.
TRAVIS: That's about 20 pixels when you measure across
-whatever that size is? -ERIK: Thereabouts, yeah.
That's tiny. That's like the thickness of a piece of paper.
So it's not on the lens.
Whatever it is, that size cannot be-- it's not on the lens.
So, I think it's out there.
-The other interesting thing about this, though... -TRAVIS: Well, look.
ERIK: ...is that it doesn't move in just one direction.
-You want me to play it at normal speed? -Yeah, play it normal speed.
ERIK: Watch this.
Notice how this thing literally seems to stop
right at the edge.
TRAVIS: Right at the dadgum helicopter blades.
Look, it got about to the helicopter
and then starts moving away from it.
Gonna go back to its native speed. Watch carefully.
KALEB: Almost as if it's meandering around.
-TRAVIS: Yeah. Yeah. -KALEB: Kind of checking out the helicopter almost.
ERIK: It sure looks that way, doesn't it?
-What? -What are the chances?
TRAVIS: This UAP maneuvered around Cameron's helicopter
like it was trying to monitor it.
What in the world was it?
Could it have been the source of that 1.6 gigahertz signal?
And was it also connected
to all of Kendra and Sam's plane malfunctions?
Well, here's the thing. Why did nobody else see this?
Is it moving so fast
that we just didn't notice it with the eye?
So, then, the question is: What are we dealing with?
That's-that's the big question.
What are we dealing with?
So if we've interpreted this properly,
not only are we looking at great speed
but we're looking at maneuvers being executed at great speed.
TRAVIS: So, we need to figure this out.
We-we got to figure out the right way
to probe the region directly above the triangle.
All right. Well, great discussion, guys.
-I-I appreciate it as always. -Great stuff, Erik.
-KALEB: Thanks for bringing it to our attention. -Yeah, man.
TRAVIS: You've clearly found something in there, though.
THOMAS: Well, I appreciate the fact
that even though there's been some challenges,
these guys have stuck with it.
-Absolutely. -Overcome some-some obstacles,
literally speaking,
and are ready to get back at it again.
TRAVIS: While we worked on plans for a new investigation
at the triangle, we checked in at the mesa,
located about a quarter of a mile to the west,
where another operation has been underway for several weeks.
So you're about to fire it up now, then?
Everything's fixed, ready to go.
TRAVIS: According to numerous ground-penetrating radar scans,
there appears to be a 400-foot-long,
dome-shaped object and numerous smaller anomalies
around it, buried deep inside the mesa.
Two previous drilling operations in recent years
could not penetrate it.
But metallic fragments were found in the spoils
that proved to be made of the same kinds of materials
that NASA uses on the surface of spacecraft.
So, for the last three weeks,
the team from Mark Construction Drilling
has been using a much more powerful drill
than we've ever used before.
They'll drill the first of two boreholes
all the way through the mesa
that will surround these anomalies.
This will allow us to insert a number of scanning devices
to better identify what these things are
and plan for how to finally uncover them.
Any idea what caused it to snap to start with?
Uh, it was a pretty... it was a pretty rough spot.
We went through it really slow
and just kind of let the-the bit do its work.
TRAVIS: Last week, even with this new team's
much more powerful rig,
-the drill rod snapped into pieces... -[sharp pop]
-Did you feel that? -Yeah.
TRAVIS: ...a little over 100 feet inside the mesa
after possibly making contact with one of these anomalies.
Everything good down there, bud?
No, I'm pretty sure we just broke off.
So after retrieving the broken drill rod,
hopefully they'll have better luck
in helping us figure out what's really inside there.
We're already back, and we're past the spot where we snapped.
THOMAS: I'm, uh, super encouraged.
They're exactly where we need to be.
If things keep trending the way they are,
they're gonna get us a beautiful cross section
right across whatever that object is there in the hill.
Gonna be perfect positioning to-to be able to go in there
and do further analysis and allow us to get
a better picture of what might be in there.
-I know that's what we all want to hear. -TRAVIS: Heck yeah.
That's great.
Well, let's get moving.
-Good luck, guys. -THOMAS: Thank you.
TRAVIS: The drilling operation
was going to take several days to be completed.
So, after we left the drillers to keep up the hard work...
...later that day...
ERIK: Well, welcome to the ranch, Ryan.
Thanks for having me. Excited to be here.
-ERIK: Welcome back, Jay. -Thank you.
TRAVIS: ...we met with two very special guests in the command center:
Jay Stratton, my former boss on the UAP Task Force,
who also oversaw Robert Bigelow's investigation
of the ranch back in the early 2000s,
and Ryan Graves, a former Navy pilot,
who recently testified before Congress
as a UAP whistleblower.
Given all the UAP sightings that we've had on the ranch,
including the one we saw near Cameron Fugal's helicopter
above the triangle the other day,
ranch owner Brandon Fugal arranged for Jay to come back
and bring Ryan Graves with him.
We wanted him to assess some of our documented sightings
because he now helps operate a UAP research organization
in the private sector known as Americans for Safe Aerospace.
We're real interested in what your interest is
in Skinwalker Ranch, and we want to show you some things
and get your perspective on it, and of course,
we're very interested in, you know, uh,
the events that-that you've been through in-in your career.
So we can determine if we've seen similar events
that compares to what you've seen.
Yeah, well, I'd be happy to share that.
I was a former F-18 pilot in the U.S. Navy for 11 years.
And during that time,
we were running into UAP
or what's commonly known as UFOs.
We didn't know what they were.
We didn't know where they came from.
And we didn't know what their intent was.
There was no way to report these issues.
And so about a year ago, we started
Americans for Safe Aerospace
as a way of engaging with pilots in order to
get to the bottom of what pilots are seeing
and to also provide them with the mechanisms
to be able to report these issues.
This caught the attention, uh, of members of Congress.
In July 2023, I was invited to testify before Congress
about the reality of UAP, and I was there to represent
my story and also represent the issues
that commercial and military pilots have been
dealing with when seeing objects while they're flying.
If we can learn something here at the ranch that allows us
to-to translate that to-to aviation safety,
then I'm all for it.
That's why I'm here.
So, Ryan, why don't you tell us
a-a little bit more, like, in details,
-like, the events where you saw something. -RYAN: Certainly.
So we were operating off the coast of Virginia Beach,
and the squadron I was in-- VFA 11-- uh,
it was a Super Hornet squadron, and we would be flying
off the coast on a regular basis.
And when we would fly out to those areas,
we would go out there with one jet, two jet, four jets,
eight jets perhaps, and we started seeing objects
on our radar, uh, that we didn't know what they were.
Now, at first, we were like,
"All right, let's go figure out what these are," right?
So we would get them on a radar, we'd get closer,
we'd start to see them on our camera systems,
and we'd slow down trying to get as close
to this object as we can, you know,
not to exceed our safety bubble.
And we would come up within 500 feet,
and we're not able to visually pick out this object.
So you could see them in your equipment but not with the,
-with the human eye? -Correct.
-We've seen that before, right? -ERIK: Yes.
RYAN: And that's why I'm interested to be here
because you guys are doing scientific work.
You guys are seeing strange things here.
I mean, that would be an incredible thing if we can
find similarities, both what pilots have been seeing
at high altitudes or within our operating airspace
and finding those same things happening here,
because this would potentially provide a lab
to study it in a more controlled manner.
I've always felt that it's, if not a laboratory,
it's certainly an observatory.
That there's a lot going on here.
There seems to be a nexus of
a lot of very different kinds of phenomenology.
UAPs apparently being one of them.
Several examples of which we're gonna share with you.
Love to get your thoughts on it.
Here is some footage that I found
just absolutely fascinating.
You're seeing high-speed footage, 240 frames per second.
And you see the helicopter above the,
the area that we refer to as the triangle.
Now, I want to draw your attention to something
that enters the field of view here.
RYAN: How do you interpret that?
ERIK: This is not a bird.
-This is not a drone. -TRAVIS: It's not a bug.
ERIK: Not a bug.
It's clearly not on the lens, whatever it is.
And check this out.
Erik and I sat here and said, "Whoa, it's gonna go
"behind the helicopter blades so we'll get to know how--
at least how far away the minimum is on it, right?"
ERIK: So I'm gonna play through it at normal speed.
TRAVIS: So right there.
And it's playing with us, right?
And it turns and goes the other way.
So that we can't get that data.
-RYAN: Wow. -ERIK: So let's view this
with, uh, a type of enhancement
that sometimes helps us bring out the details.
Here's an emboss filter.
You know, as this thing approaches the-the aircraft.
TRAVIS: It certainly doesn't seem random, does it?
RYAN: And it seems to be just navigating of its own accord.
That is an interesting statement.
"Navigating... on its own accord."
RYAN: It seems to be just navigating of its own accord.
It certainly doesn't seem random, does it?
That is an interesting statement.
"Navigating... on its own accord."
RYAN: It looked like what we see: no propulsion,
no wings...
-Yep. -...uh, no IR energy
shooting an exhaust out the back.
TRAVIS: Comparing the UAP encounters of former Navy pilot
Ryan Graves with what we've witnessed
on Skinwalker Ranch was fascinating.
It just confirms that we're dealing with phenomena out here
that our own military has been at a loss to identify
in different locations all across the U.S.
and the world.
What's out there is something
we still don't understand what it is.
And the same issue within the military is
within the commercial world: no one wants to talk about it.
And once they start sharing the stories with each other,
they all of a sudden realize that there is something going on
that many of them are seeing.
This one particular day, we launched out on this flight,
and we did not get any radar data.
Uh, we did not receive any notification that this object
were in front of our aircraft, but as soon as we entered
the working area, the two aircraft were coming
right through one of these objects.
One of these objects went right between the two aircraft.
The lead aircraft was slightly closer to them, about 50 feet.
And they described it as a dark gray or a black cube
inside of a clear sphere.
They were able to estimate it to be about five
to 15 feet in diameter.
ERIK: Oh.
Okay.
ERIK: Uh, so I'd like to share an event
that took place while we were attempting to do some...
some work with a drone swarm
as part of a, kind of a spatial mapping exercise
out in the east field canyon area.
KALEB: We got something right there.
TRAVIS: Yeah, it is! That's it right there!
Back in 2022, as we were conducting
a drone swarm experiment in the east field,
a UAP that looked very much
like what Ryan Graves just described
appeared in the sky for several seconds...
It just disappeared.
...before vanishing into thin air.
We had no idea what it was, but it looked like a possible
nuts-and-bolts craft of some kind.
ERIK: So, um...
this was not movement consistent with,
say, a satellite or an aircraft.
-You don't see a strobe. -RYAN: Wow.
TRAVIS: And we got several pictures of it
with, uh, cell phones and other cameras.
Uh, Erik, I don't know which one you got,
but go ahead and bring that up.
RYAN: Wow.
TRAVIS: Every one of them shows it as a sphere with a,
a black dot in the middle.
And we had a good enough picture of it
that I could go forward and make a three-dimensional model of.
ERIK: I'm gonna bring that up.
TRAVIS: You'll see the interior's held together by a cylinder.
RYAN: That's incredible.
We've seen-- over 50% of the objects
we're seeing are spherical in nature.
My good friends in the S Squadron,
they were actually able to capture the object.
We saw it on their FLIR system.
They were actually able to break out a sphere
with a cube in it as well.
-Wow. -They were able to see the actual,
you know, spherical structure.
Wow, I did not know that statistic.
-I-I find that interesting. -TRAVIS: One thing I'll mention.
When we launch rockets,
uh, more times than not, our instruments pick up
something unusual, including what we perceive as UAP.
And so, uh, is it a coincidence
or are we actually stimulating or triggering
some sort of phenomena to occur?
So even something like this, a UAP like this.
You-you think you might actually be triggering it by launching.
There's clearly correlation is all we can say.
RYAN: I applaud you for what you guys are doing to actually
see what's out here.
TRAVIS: Well, with that in mind, we have
a, uh, a-a fairly complex experiment planned.
And so, we're hoping to get a lot
of data from that tonight, and we'll be happy to have
you join us if you're interested in, uh,
maybe adding another set of the Mark One Eyeball sensor
on-onto the, uh, onto the problem.
Absolutely, I'd love to. Thanks for having me.
This is great. Well, we got stuff to do.
Let's get out there and get going.
Hey, Dragon, Thomas?
Do you guys copy?
Yeah, we're ready on this end, Travis.
Copy that.
All right, they're gonna launch the four rockets
simultaneous with us.
Uh, you guys are gonna run the rockets launch, all right?
Kaleb, you're gonna run the lidar,
uh, with the SLAM scanner.
Pete, you're gonna fly what on the drone?
-Uh, thermal. -Okay.
Our airplane experiment a couple of days ago
unfortunately didn't get us any more data
on the massive cone-shaped anomaly
we recently detected that spanned
from Homestead Two through the triangle,
all the way over to the east field.
So tonight, we're gonna see if launching
a number of rockets while employing thermal
and lidar technology might do the trick.
And we're really excited to have Ryan Graves
and Jay Stratton here to help.
Jay, Ryan if you don't mind, watch the screens here.
If we see any signals come up, let me know.
And keep an eye outside at the sky, right?
'Cause you never know what's gonna happen.
Tonight, our friends from LOC Precision Rockets have designed
two multi-rocket launching systems.
One will be stationed at the triangle
and the other will be over at the east field.
Each station will conduct two rounds of
four simultaneous rocket launches
for a grand total of 16 rockets.
The hope is that they might hit something
in the air or trigger phenomena that will give us more data
about what that massive cone we detected could possibly be.
All right.
Is that all four?
-Yep. -Are the lights on in that one?
Yep, lights are on.
TRAVIS: Meanwhile,
we'll be scanning the area with an infrared lidar drone
as well as a FLIR thermal camera,
which Ryan Graves will personally monitor
to look for any signs of the cone-shaped anomaly
or other phenomena that we might not be able
to see with the naked eye.
Yeah, Bryant, we are clear.
TRAVIS: And all during the experiment,
Erik will be in the command center monitoring us
on his surveillance cameras and keeping a close eye
on his new Kraken system.
This is a new array of antennas that can pinpoint
the location of any strange radio signals,
like the ones at 1.6 gigahertz that we often detect out here.
Hopefully, tonight will reveal something incredible.
Okay, does everybody know what we're doing?
All right, let's go. Let's do it.
RYAN: I was tasked with monitoring the thermal camera.
My experience monitoring
the AT-FLIR in the F-18, uh, Travis thought
it'd be a good idea for me to keep
my eyes open on the FLIR to see if I could see
anything that looked familiar.
Okay, taking off.
Hey, Dragon, Thomas, you guys copy?
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
TRAVIS [over walkie]: We are very close.
Uh, the lights are ready on the rockets.
We have a drone in the air.
Uh, Kaleb is about to start the lidar here.
Copy that.
I'm gonna go down and start that terrestrial scanner.
Okay, I'm gonna get out here where I can see you, guys.
All armed.
TRAVIS [over walkie]: Rockets are going hot!
THOMAS: Ten, nine,
eight, seven, six,
five, four,
three, two, one.
TRAVIS: Oh! Did you see that?
THOMAS [over walkie]: Three, two, one.
TRAVIS: Oh! Did you see that? [whoops]
ALLEN: I see strobes.
KALEB: I've seen three.
TRAVIS: We got one lawn dart somewhere.
Okay, I only have two rockets in the air right now.
-Do y'all see the third one? -DAVE: Yeah, I got three.
Look at them go.
What's weird is that one's headed north
and that one's headed almost south.
DAVE: How does that work?
THOMAS: How can you have two chutes
being blown different directions?
DAVE: They're right next to each other.
TRAVIS: Oh, we got three in the valley here.
Whoa, they're coming down slow.
Hey, Thomas,
do you copy?
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
TRAVIS: We had four successful launches.
Three of the chutes deployed properly.
How did yours do?
Well, that's very interesting.
We had four that launched, uh, on time.
We had two coming down right next to each other.
One got blown clear to the north and the one right next to it
got blown to the south simultaneously.
DAVE: We've seen things here at Skinwalker Ranch
that you just don't see elsewhere.
We've been doing this for over 30 years,
and so when rockets start going
a different direction than predicted,
you kind of got to raise a hand and say,
"Well, why did that happen?"
But at Skinwalker Ranch, we've found out things are
anything but normal trying to fly rockets.
And the answers don't aways come easily.
TRAVIS: Yeah, go ahead, Erik.
ERIK: Um, during the launches,
the Kraken has been tracking
a very consistent 1.6 gigahertz signal
from the triangle, uh, down to the southern fence line.
TRAVIS: Wow, that's kind of the direction the rockets went.
I'd love to have validation, uh, from your instruments out there
and see if you're picking up the same thing.
Okay, I'm running, um-- I'm gonna turn this antenna.
Erik says it's to the south.
We weren't sure what to make
of the malfunctions that happened
with the first launch of eight rockets
between the east field and the triangle.
But then, when Erik said
he was detecting a 1.6 gigahertz signal
on his Kraken system,
coming from somewhere south of the triangle,
it made me wonder if these two things were connected.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.
Yeah.
That is really weird.
So we're getting some kind of signal,
and that's the antenna that's pointed back here
where Erik said there was something
-coming up on the Kraken. -Yeah.
TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey, uh, Dragon, Thomas, you copy?
Yes, Travis, we copy you.
Did you guys hear, uh, Erik?
Uh, we've got a 1.6 gigahertz signal,
according to the Kraken, uh, south of us somewhere.
I find that interesting.
THOMAS: We agree.
TRAVIS: Erik, let's keep an eye on that.
Understood, Travis.
I'm watching.
The Kraken antenna array system, whose purpose
is to direction find
and tell us where signals are coming from,
indicates that we have
a source of 1.6 gigahertz
electromagnetic radiation that is, in fact,
to the south and west of the ranch.
Now, why would that be happening?
As far as we can tell, there's nothing
from what would be south of the fence line
that should account for that.
TRAVIS [over walkie]: All right, be advised.
I think this is gonna be our last launch for the evening.
Copy that.
TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey, can we get everybody back into position
for our next test, please?
All right, guys.
-Thomas, you calling? -THOMAS [over walkie]: Yeah.
Five, four, three,
two, one.
TRAVIS: We have four rockets.
One chute.
Oh, I only see one chute.
Two, three, four. We got all four chutes.
Yeah, I can see theirs, too.
They're coming right down on top of us.
Oh, what's that?
Right there. What's that?
We got something, Travis.
You found something?
Yeah, it was in the cloud layer up here,
and it was descending down.
TRAVIS: Erik, be advised.
Uh, Ryan just saw something in, uh,
the thermal camera.
Uh, from our perspective at the triangle,
it was northeast,
and it was while the rockets were in the air.
Okay, guys, be advised.
There is no transponding traffic,
uh, in that location.
There's nothing to the north of the ranch,
and there has not been anything, uh,
flying to the north of the ranch on the ADS-B
for the last several minutes.
Well, that's very interesting.
Just after launching our second series of eight rockets
between the east field and the triangle,
former Navy pilot Ryan Graves spotted a UAP in the sky
on our thermal camera.
No one else happened to see it in the moment,
but then Erik confirmed that his ADS-B system,
which tracks conventional aircraft
within 150 miles of the ranch, didn't pick it up either.
So if it wasn't an airplane, what the heck did Ryan see?
PETE: We got to watch that again.
-TRAVIS: That's moving fast. -RYAN: Yeah.
TRAVIS: Then you see it turn, too.
-It looked like it did a maneuver. -RYAN: It did. Yep.
That thing is moving fast.
Those clouds are five miles away at least.
So that thing is moving.
And to the northeast again.
TRAVIS: And to the northeast. Yeah, right there.
Right there at the, uh, in-and-out spot.
Kind of looked like it was diving down.
TRAVIS: Absolutely did.
That's a great catch.
It looked like it went behind the clouds, didn't it?
This UAP, whatever it was,
descended right down toward the mesa,
and then seemed to disappear
right where we've previously recorded video
of other UAPs exiting the mesa
and then flying right toward the triangle.
Erik Bard.
I don't know if it's connected to the huge cone-shaped anomaly,
but it definitely appeared within its boundaries.
So, what could it have been?
Well, I think we got a lot of data.
Did I hear right that one of you guys
caught something flying into the mesa?
Ryan saw it on, uh, thermal while Pete was flying the drone.
-Towards the out? -TRAVIS: Yeah, right by the out.
And it made a maneuver, too, as it came down.
-It made a big turn. -It did. It did. -Oh, wow.
-It made a jog to the east. -Oh, wow.
Yeah, I'm gonna say it was moving really fast.
RYAN: I think it's very important that they continue doing
what they're doing here at the ranch,
because at the end of the day,
we're really only gonna be able to understand this
if we're able to understand in a repeatable manner.
You know, they seem to be getting data here.
There seems to be something that is happening.
It started pretty high up in the sky,
and it was moving down pretty quick.
I would be thrilled to continue to work
with the team to help figure out what this is,
and we can continue the conversation and gather data.
You know, on my display, I see an indication
of where that 1.6 gigahertz is coming from,
and throughout our entire exercise tonight,
it's been pointing predominantly,
you know, out that way somewhere.
That sounds really odd.
But, uh, I'm ready to break it down.
All right, well, you know, I think it's a-a great experiment.
Yeah, and thanks again for all you guys being here.
We appreciate it.
TRAVIS: All right.
The entire world wants to know the truth
behind the UAP phenomenon.
There's too many credible witnesses out there,
like Ryan Graves and Jay Stratton,
to deny that this is one of the great mysteries of our time.
As we've all just witnessed again,
the answers may lie hidden right here on Skinwalker Ranch.
So we're gonna keep poking this nest
until we reveal what they are.
ERIK: It really seems that we've had company in the skies
during aviation exercises.
The more we do this work in the airspace over the triangle,
the more I'm thinking about what additional tools
could be brought to bear on this problem,
to study this very interesting region
of the airspace over the ranch.
BRANDON: To have an American hero,
like Ryan Graves,
come to the ranch and to witness with his own eyes
the high strangeness
and the reality of the investigation
is a privilege.
We will continue to engage experts, like Ryan,
in service to helping us better understand
what is happening at Skinwalker Ranch.
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