1 00:00:01,827 --> 00:00:03,264 -[sharp pop] -ALEX: Did you feel that? 2 00:00:03,438 --> 00:00:04,743 ERIK: What the hell was that noise? 3 00:00:04,917 --> 00:00:06,441 THOMAS: Something's broke inside the mesa. 4 00:00:06,658 --> 00:00:07,746 ALEX: Oh, that's not good. 5 00:00:09,052 --> 00:00:10,749 Travis, hey, I've got eyes on a descending light. 6 00:00:10,923 --> 00:00:11,881 Are you seeing this? 7 00:00:12,055 --> 00:00:13,056 THOMAS: Descending light? 8 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:14,710 ERIK: I honest to God 9 00:00:14,884 --> 00:00:15,450 don't know what I'm looking at here. 10 00:00:15,624 --> 00:00:17,582 Lasers coming on. 11 00:00:17,756 --> 00:00:18,714 We are hitting something with the laser. 12 00:00:18,801 --> 00:00:19,976 What are we hitting? 13 00:00:20,150 --> 00:00:21,282 TIM: Some sort of mass. 14 00:00:21,456 --> 00:00:23,545 PETE: This is one of 15 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:27,027 the terrestrial laser scans we did. 16 00:00:27,244 --> 00:00:29,464 Can you look up? It does go into a cone. 17 00:00:29,551 --> 00:00:31,292 KALEB: Oh, look at that. 18 00:00:31,466 --> 00:00:32,815 TRAVIS: We're all inside a cone. 19 00:00:35,774 --> 00:00:38,995 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 20 00:00:39,169 --> 00:00:41,171 It is considered the epicenter 21 00:00:41,345 --> 00:00:45,741 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 22 00:00:45,871 --> 00:00:48,613 animal mutilations, 23 00:00:48,744 --> 00:00:51,181 bizarre UFO sightings 24 00:00:51,355 --> 00:00:56,099 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 25 00:00:56,273 --> 00:00:58,319 For 20 years, the federal government 26 00:00:58,536 --> 00:01:02,279 tried to find answers and failed. 27 00:01:02,453 --> 00:01:05,761 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 28 00:01:05,935 --> 00:01:09,808 researchers and experts has taken over. 29 00:01:09,982 --> 00:01:13,508 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 30 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:19,340 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 31 00:01:25,346 --> 00:01:28,175 Roosevelt Traffic helicopter 9-5 bravo Charlie is 32 00:01:28,349 --> 00:01:30,568 three mile final runway 2-5. 33 00:01:31,874 --> 00:01:34,094 TRAVIS: This morning, Erik Bard, Cameron Fugal, 34 00:01:34,268 --> 00:01:36,574 Thomas Winterton, Dragon and myself 35 00:01:36,705 --> 00:01:38,837 traveled about ten miles northwest 36 00:01:38,968 --> 00:01:41,840 of Skinwalker Ranch to Roosevelt Airport. 37 00:01:42,014 --> 00:01:43,146 ERIK: Hey there, Kendra. 38 00:01:43,364 --> 00:01:44,582 KENDRA: Hey, hey. Hello, hello. 39 00:01:44,756 --> 00:01:47,324 Got out here all right then, huh? 40 00:01:47,455 --> 00:01:49,065 I guess so. Looks like you did, too. 41 00:01:49,283 --> 00:01:50,153 -TRAVIS: Cool-looking airplane. -Well, thank you. 42 00:01:50,588 --> 00:01:52,068 -TRAVIS: Cool-looking airplane. -Well, thank you. 43 00:01:52,503 --> 00:01:55,898 TRAVIS: There we met up with pilots Kendra Hart and Sam Davis 44 00:01:56,072 --> 00:01:58,857 to prepare for a new experiment after making what could be 45 00:01:59,031 --> 00:02:01,251 a major discovery last week. 46 00:02:01,382 --> 00:02:02,731 Well, we ready for this day? 47 00:02:02,905 --> 00:02:05,168 Yeah, we're excited. 48 00:02:06,474 --> 00:02:08,171 TRAVIS: Using an infrared lidar scanner, 49 00:02:08,345 --> 00:02:10,695 we detected a 2,000-foot-high 50 00:02:10,913 --> 00:02:13,872 cone-shaped anomaly that was centered above the triangle 51 00:02:14,046 --> 00:02:17,311 and had a base that was about a mile wide, 52 00:02:17,528 --> 00:02:19,791 stretching all the way from Homestead Two 53 00:02:19,922 --> 00:02:21,837 over to the east field. 54 00:02:21,967 --> 00:02:24,927 These are three main areas where we've seen 55 00:02:25,057 --> 00:02:28,452 a ton of phenomena, including UAPs... 56 00:02:30,062 --> 00:02:33,022 That's a communication signal or something. 57 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,329 ...inexplicable energy signals... 58 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,116 ...and even invisible objects at various altitudes 59 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:42,031 that have blocked laser beams 60 00:02:42,205 --> 00:02:44,555 and also deflected and destroyed rockets. 61 00:02:44,729 --> 00:02:46,862 So, why are we back here today? 62 00:02:47,079 --> 00:02:48,603 -What are we looking for and hoping to find? -CAMERON: Great question. 63 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:50,779 We've got something going on 64 00:02:50,953 --> 00:02:54,086 in a very interesting region in the airspace above the ranch. 65 00:02:54,217 --> 00:02:56,350 And so, there may be something physical there 66 00:02:56,524 --> 00:02:59,831 that we'll be able to see if we put smoke into that space. 67 00:02:59,962 --> 00:03:01,703 We want you to go 5,000 foot above the ranch 68 00:03:01,877 --> 00:03:04,575 and then circle in a wide pattern 69 00:03:04,749 --> 00:03:07,796 and then spiral down, running smoke, uh, behind you, 70 00:03:07,926 --> 00:03:10,146 -and we'll see how that all turns out. -Awesome. 71 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,715 TRAVIS: Our plan today is to have Kendra and Sam 72 00:03:13,889 --> 00:03:16,370 fly their specialized Pitts 2B airplane 73 00:03:16,544 --> 00:03:21,026 nearly a mile above the triangle and also at lower altitudes. 74 00:03:21,157 --> 00:03:22,724 They'll be performing a series of maneuvers 75 00:03:22,898 --> 00:03:24,943 while emitting thick trails of smoke 76 00:03:25,117 --> 00:03:27,250 that will blanket the entire area. 77 00:03:27,381 --> 00:03:29,948 The hope is that the smoke will make contact 78 00:03:30,122 --> 00:03:32,429 with the anomaly and not only confirm its presence 79 00:03:32,647 --> 00:03:34,388 but also its size. 80 00:03:34,562 --> 00:03:36,607 Once we know those things for sure, 81 00:03:36,781 --> 00:03:38,305 we can then work to figure out 82 00:03:38,435 --> 00:03:40,698 what it is, and how it may be connected to 83 00:03:40,872 --> 00:03:42,700 all the strange things we've seen 84 00:03:42,874 --> 00:03:44,833 in that area on the ranch. 85 00:03:45,007 --> 00:03:48,837 Having you both and myself with eyes on... on each other there, 86 00:03:49,011 --> 00:03:51,187 we should keep this thing running properly. 87 00:03:51,361 --> 00:03:52,406 -Perfect. -ERIK: You know, 88 00:03:52,580 --> 00:03:53,929 once we begin this experiment, 89 00:03:54,103 --> 00:03:55,887 the plane itself becomes a scientific instrument. 90 00:03:56,105 --> 00:03:57,802 It's part of the study. 91 00:03:57,976 --> 00:04:00,152 So, anything unusual happening with the plane itself, 92 00:04:00,327 --> 00:04:02,590 uh, whether it's electronic or mechanical, 93 00:04:02,764 --> 00:04:04,679 -we're especially interested in knowing that. -KENDRA: Sounds good. 94 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:06,768 BRYANT: We're really grateful that you're gonna 95 00:04:06,985 --> 00:04:09,031 come out and do this, but we want to make sure 96 00:04:09,205 --> 00:04:11,860 that you guys remember that your health and safety is 97 00:04:12,034 --> 00:04:13,035 first and foremost. 98 00:04:13,165 --> 00:04:14,993 So if you feel off at all, 99 00:04:15,167 --> 00:04:17,213 or you have any kind of equipment malfunction 100 00:04:17,344 --> 00:04:18,562 or something like that, please feel free 101 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:20,695 to just abort the mission. 102 00:04:20,869 --> 00:04:22,784 There's nothing worth your health and safety at all 103 00:04:22,958 --> 00:04:25,177 -when it comes to this investigation. -CAMERON: Good point. 104 00:04:25,352 --> 00:04:27,832 Any one of us can call this, and we'll peel off 105 00:04:27,963 --> 00:04:30,139 at that point and get out of the area. 106 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:31,836 TRAVIS: We've got a lot to do. I've got to get back 107 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:33,447 and get all the instruments set up at the triangle. 108 00:04:33,621 --> 00:04:35,579 I say let's get back to the ranch, 109 00:04:35,753 --> 00:04:37,625 -and then let's get going. -Looking forward to this, guys. 110 00:04:37,755 --> 00:04:39,017 -Thank you. -Can't wait to see you guys in the air. 111 00:04:39,191 --> 00:04:41,237 KENDRA: Sounds good. Thanks. 112 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:51,116 TRAVIS: All right, looks like Cameron's in position. 113 00:04:51,247 --> 00:04:53,815 Later that morning, while we were waiting 114 00:04:53,989 --> 00:04:56,339 for Kendra and Sam to fly over to the ranch, 115 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:59,211 we set up a monitoring station near the triangle 116 00:04:59,386 --> 00:05:01,562 with a high-speed camera that'll be taking 117 00:05:01,779 --> 00:05:04,521 hundreds of frames per second during the aerial experiment. 118 00:05:04,695 --> 00:05:06,393 We also had multiple antennas attached 119 00:05:06,610 --> 00:05:09,004 to our spectrum analyzers to look out for 120 00:05:09,178 --> 00:05:11,006 any strange signals or frequencies, 121 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:12,790 which we often detect out here 122 00:05:12,964 --> 00:05:15,445 from sources that we have yet to identify. 123 00:05:17,665 --> 00:05:19,536 Meanwhile, Erik Bard was stationed 124 00:05:19,667 --> 00:05:21,625 in the command center 125 00:05:21,756 --> 00:05:23,453 monitoring his own spectrum analyzer, 126 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:25,325 as well as a number of surveillance cameras. 127 00:05:30,982 --> 00:05:32,941 Sounds like Kendra's on approach. 128 00:05:33,115 --> 00:05:35,944 We're gonna paint that airspace over the ranch with smoke 129 00:05:36,074 --> 00:05:38,338 and watch for any abnormal, 130 00:05:38,512 --> 00:05:41,689 unnatural patterns in how that smoke moves. 131 00:05:41,819 --> 00:05:43,734 If in fact we have something that is affecting 132 00:05:43,908 --> 00:05:46,607 the movement of the smoke, it is entirely possible 133 00:05:46,737 --> 00:05:49,392 that RF signals could be affected. 134 00:05:49,610 --> 00:05:52,482 We're going to be studying that during this exercise, 135 00:05:52,656 --> 00:05:55,180 as well as deploying high-speed video equipment, 136 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:58,314 and I think that's what we're interested in looking at here. 137 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:08,455 TRAVIS: To have an extra set of eyes in the air 138 00:06:08,585 --> 00:06:11,240 and help communicate with Kendra and Sam, 139 00:06:11,414 --> 00:06:13,895 Cameron was hovering around 2,000 feet high 140 00:06:14,069 --> 00:06:16,201 but safely out of the triangle airspace. 141 00:06:27,822 --> 00:06:30,085 We'll give you a cue. We'll be calling out smoke. 142 00:06:31,434 --> 00:06:33,393 KALEB: 10-4, Cameron. 143 00:06:34,568 --> 00:06:36,396 Holy crap, look at this! 144 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:39,747 Hey, be advised. 145 00:06:39,877 --> 00:06:44,316 We're picking up a signal right on top of 1.6. 146 00:06:44,447 --> 00:06:46,971 And we're only detecting it on the skyward-facing antenna, 147 00:06:47,145 --> 00:06:49,278 right above the triangle area. 148 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:51,323 Isn't that weird? 149 00:06:51,454 --> 00:06:55,197 Hey, thanks for that heads-up. I'll check it out. 150 00:06:55,371 --> 00:06:58,113 TRAVIS: All I could think was, "Here we go again." 151 00:06:58,243 --> 00:06:59,767 Right after Cameron alerted us 152 00:06:59,941 --> 00:07:01,508 that Kendra's plane was approaching, 153 00:07:01,725 --> 00:07:03,423 my spectrum analyzer detected 154 00:07:03,553 --> 00:07:07,035 a strange radio frequency signal at 1.6 gigahertz 155 00:07:07,165 --> 00:07:09,690 coming from right above the triangle. 156 00:07:09,864 --> 00:07:11,953 We've detected this many times on the ranch, 157 00:07:12,127 --> 00:07:14,651 including last week when we captured images 158 00:07:14,782 --> 00:07:16,697 of that huge cone-shaped anomaly. 159 00:07:16,871 --> 00:07:19,700 So, I couldn't wait to see what would happen 160 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:21,353 once Kendra and Sam started 161 00:07:21,528 --> 00:07:23,747 painting the whole region with smoke. 162 00:07:23,921 --> 00:07:26,228 KALEB: She's right there, coming overhead right now. 163 00:07:26,402 --> 00:07:28,099 TRAVIS: Yeah, here she comes! 164 00:07:46,291 --> 00:07:47,989 TRAVIS: She's popping smoke. 165 00:07:48,119 --> 00:07:50,252 That ain't enough smoke to see! 166 00:07:51,601 --> 00:07:53,385 I'm surprised. 167 00:07:53,603 --> 00:07:54,996 I mean, there's not even enough smoke to see the trail. 168 00:07:55,170 --> 00:07:56,737 I wonder if there's something wrong. 169 00:07:56,824 --> 00:07:59,174 That's not at all what I was expecting. 170 00:08:04,396 --> 00:08:07,356 Yeah, Cameron, I-I did not get a visual on the smoke at all. 171 00:08:23,111 --> 00:08:25,592 THOMAS: Right off the bat, when Kendra went to emit smoke, 172 00:08:25,766 --> 00:08:27,507 nothing came out. 173 00:08:27,724 --> 00:08:30,597 We only saw a few small, wispy puffs of smoke. 174 00:08:30,814 --> 00:08:33,469 Again, I'm wondering, you know, is this the ranch 175 00:08:33,687 --> 00:08:36,124 that's interfering with it or is it something else? 176 00:08:46,613 --> 00:08:48,005 She's circling above us. 177 00:08:51,487 --> 00:08:53,533 TRAVIS: She's not putting out much smoke. 178 00:08:55,186 --> 00:08:58,320 It was really frustrating that hardly any smoke was coming 179 00:08:58,494 --> 00:09:00,452 out of the plane, which we hoped 180 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:03,064 might better identify the cone-shaped anomaly. 181 00:09:03,194 --> 00:09:06,458 It's become a recurring problem that a lot of tested 182 00:09:06,589 --> 00:09:08,112 and otherwise functioning tech 183 00:09:08,286 --> 00:09:11,115 simply won't work for some strange reason 184 00:09:11,289 --> 00:09:13,030 when we try to use it on Skinwalker Ranch. 185 00:09:13,204 --> 00:09:15,076 So, the big question today was: 186 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:17,208 Why wasn't Kendra and Sam's smoke system 187 00:09:17,339 --> 00:09:19,559 working correctly above the triangle? 188 00:09:50,198 --> 00:09:51,765 Oh. 189 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:03,124 KENDRA: It just clicked off again for the second time. 190 00:10:10,479 --> 00:10:11,523 ERIK: What the hell? 191 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:13,264 Wow. 192 00:10:13,438 --> 00:10:15,963 I'm getting word that there are issues 193 00:10:16,180 --> 00:10:17,965 with the smoke release system. 194 00:10:18,095 --> 00:10:20,707 And now we have the issues with the alternator, 195 00:10:20,881 --> 00:10:22,926 an important electrical component on the plane. 196 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,102 If that alternator were to fail, 197 00:10:25,276 --> 00:10:26,495 it could be a problem. 198 00:10:26,669 --> 00:10:28,236 This is concerning. 199 00:10:28,323 --> 00:10:29,498 Kendra, what do you want to do? 200 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:30,630 Do you want to get back to Roosevelt 201 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:31,805 with that alternator acting up? 202 00:10:38,463 --> 00:10:40,204 Cameron, it really bothers me. 203 00:10:40,378 --> 00:10:42,293 We're seeing a lot of strange signals and things here 204 00:10:42,511 --> 00:10:44,687 coming from above the triangle. 205 00:10:44,818 --> 00:10:45,732 And if the alternator's not working, 206 00:10:45,862 --> 00:10:47,298 I'm worried about her safety. 207 00:10:47,516 --> 00:10:49,083 If she needs to go back, you tell her to go back. 208 00:10:49,257 --> 00:10:52,173 We'd just started our experiment high above the triangle 209 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:54,436 when pilots Kendra Hart and Sam Davis 210 00:10:54,566 --> 00:10:57,918 began having numerous mechanical problems with their aircraft. 211 00:10:58,135 --> 00:10:59,789 And at the same time, 212 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,270 the antenna connected to my spectrum analyzer 213 00:11:02,444 --> 00:11:05,577 was detecting a radio frequency signal at 1.6 gigahertz 214 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:07,710 coming from that same area. 215 00:11:07,928 --> 00:11:09,451 We couldn't be sure if these things 216 00:11:09,625 --> 00:11:11,148 were connected to one another, 217 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,107 but in the past, when we've detected signals 218 00:11:13,281 --> 00:11:14,848 at 1.6 gigahertz, 219 00:11:14,978 --> 00:11:18,547 we've experienced other phenomena, including UAPs. 220 00:11:32,474 --> 00:11:35,216 Her oil temperature, 221 00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:37,740 fluctuating when they were over us. 222 00:11:37,914 --> 00:11:39,873 -Really? -[indistinct radio chatter] 223 00:11:40,047 --> 00:11:41,657 KENDRA: See, so it's just moving around a lot. 224 00:11:41,831 --> 00:11:43,833 Yeah, that could be an electrical, uh, 225 00:11:44,051 --> 00:11:45,705 interference problem as well. 226 00:11:45,835 --> 00:11:47,576 Which, again, is typical for this place. 227 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:49,404 Good call. Safety first. 228 00:11:51,841 --> 00:11:54,539 CAMERON: Sounds great. We'll get you back to the airport. 229 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:56,803 TRAVIS: We had no way of being certain 230 00:11:56,977 --> 00:11:58,500 if the plane's malfunctions 231 00:11:58,674 --> 00:12:00,981 had anything to do with the 1.6 gigahertz signal 232 00:12:01,111 --> 00:12:02,199 coming from the triangle 233 00:12:02,373 --> 00:12:04,636 or some other kind of phenomena, 234 00:12:04,811 --> 00:12:08,031 but it was definitely right for Kendra and Sam 235 00:12:08,205 --> 00:12:09,380 to make the short flight back to Roosevelt 236 00:12:09,511 --> 00:12:11,252 for a safety inspection. 237 00:12:11,382 --> 00:12:14,081 -SAM: All right, here we go. -KENDRA: Wahoo. 238 00:12:14,255 --> 00:12:15,865 TRAVIS: We still collected data 239 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,825 and had high-speed camera images to process. 240 00:12:18,999 --> 00:12:21,349 CAMERON: All right, just setting down here. 241 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:22,611 TRAVIS: But we also wanted to meet back up with them 242 00:12:22,785 --> 00:12:24,613 as soon as possible 243 00:12:24,787 --> 00:12:26,180 to get their take 244 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:28,225 on what they experienced over the ranch today. 245 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:30,184 SAM: Just in time. 246 00:12:30,358 --> 00:12:31,751 -It's good to see you back on the ground. -Wow. 247 00:12:31,881 --> 00:12:33,491 -KENDRA: Y'all as well. -Glad to have you back. 248 00:12:33,622 --> 00:12:35,493 Thanks. [chuckles] Glad to be back. 249 00:12:35,667 --> 00:12:37,757 -What an experiment today, huh? What a flight. -Yeah. 250 00:12:37,931 --> 00:12:39,933 What in the world happened to the smoke? 251 00:12:40,063 --> 00:12:42,022 KENDRA: You know, your guess is as good as ours. 252 00:12:42,196 --> 00:12:44,981 We tested it before we came. We tested it last night. 253 00:12:45,068 --> 00:12:46,678 The tank is full. 254 00:12:46,853 --> 00:12:48,071 Go to switch it on, and it sounds like 255 00:12:48,202 --> 00:12:49,464 the most we were getting were little puffs. 256 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:50,987 We didn't see anything out the back. 257 00:12:51,118 --> 00:12:52,902 That's all-- we could barely see it, 258 00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:54,077 just for-- looked like little puffs coming out of it. 259 00:12:54,295 --> 00:12:55,296 Never was a line like you'd expect. 260 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:56,950 -Okay, so yeah. -Wow. 261 00:12:57,124 --> 00:12:58,647 I know you tested it, we talked about it, 262 00:12:58,821 --> 00:13:01,041 and what I'm so concerned about 263 00:13:01,258 --> 00:13:03,086 is the alternator, the electrical issues you had. 264 00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:05,610 And that's to say nothing of all that crazy stuff 265 00:13:05,741 --> 00:13:07,525 -we saw in the RF, on the spectrum analyzer. -TRAVIS: Yeah, that's right. 266 00:13:07,656 --> 00:13:10,224 Did you guys notice anything other than, uh, 267 00:13:10,398 --> 00:13:12,008 the equipment malfunctions? 268 00:13:12,182 --> 00:13:14,576 We had some oil temperature fluctuations, 269 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:18,014 which normally, the airplane, it's very, very accurate 270 00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:20,277 within a couple degrees. 271 00:13:20,408 --> 00:13:23,324 -How much did it change? -It was changing 25, 30 degrees. 272 00:13:23,541 --> 00:13:25,500 -Wow. -Wow. 273 00:13:25,717 --> 00:13:27,415 SAM: Within seconds, just bouncing up and down. 274 00:13:27,589 --> 00:13:29,330 That could just about blow the engine or something, right? 275 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:32,159 And as soon as we started heading back, it... 276 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:35,336 it stayed steady at 215 degrees. 277 00:13:35,553 --> 00:13:36,728 It went away when you're not over the triangle, right? 278 00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,643 -Yeah, yeah. Yeah. -That's crazy. 279 00:13:38,774 --> 00:13:41,385 So, we appreciate you coming out again. 280 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,561 You have been amazing to work with. 281 00:13:43,735 --> 00:13:44,998 Any chance you'd come back 282 00:13:45,215 --> 00:13:46,956 and want to fly over the ranch again? 283 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:48,001 Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, guys. You're great to work with. 284 00:13:48,131 --> 00:13:49,872 -Absolutely. -Awesome. 285 00:13:50,003 --> 00:13:51,004 ERIK: All right, thanks for working with us. 286 00:13:51,178 --> 00:13:52,092 SAM: Thanks. Yeah, you, too. 287 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:53,354 We'll stay in touch. 288 00:14:00,404 --> 00:14:02,232 TRAVIS: What's going on, fellas? 289 00:14:02,319 --> 00:14:04,844 I-I'm bringing up some of the data that we've, uh, 290 00:14:04,974 --> 00:14:05,888 recently acquired from the Pitts plane. 291 00:14:06,019 --> 00:14:07,629 -All right. -Great. 292 00:14:07,803 --> 00:14:10,545 Later that night, Erik called us into the command center 293 00:14:10,762 --> 00:14:13,940 after he had processed all the high-speed camera images 294 00:14:14,070 --> 00:14:16,464 that were collected earlier today during the experiment. 295 00:14:16,638 --> 00:14:20,033 I've got some footage that shows the helicopter passing overhead. 296 00:14:20,207 --> 00:14:24,037 I'll stop there, and we'll see what you guys make of it. 297 00:14:26,517 --> 00:14:28,911 This is a video recording taken from ground level 298 00:14:29,042 --> 00:14:31,783 right at the triangle, looking up at the aircraft. 299 00:14:33,046 --> 00:14:35,831 So I'm going to play this at its native speed. 300 00:14:36,049 --> 00:14:38,616 This thing is running at 240 frames per second. 301 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:42,577 You can clearly see the rotors in motion on the helicopter. 302 00:14:42,794 --> 00:14:44,753 You know, flying right over the triangle. 303 00:14:44,927 --> 00:14:46,059 Wait a minute. 304 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:51,586 -There's a black spot, right there. -ERIK: Mm-hmm. 305 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,327 That's the one. 306 00:14:53,544 --> 00:14:54,850 Let's take a look at this thing. 307 00:14:56,112 --> 00:14:57,548 TRAVIS: Oh, I do see it. 308 00:14:58,810 --> 00:15:00,421 ERIK: Let me take it back to the beginning. 309 00:15:00,595 --> 00:15:02,423 We'll see this come into frame. 310 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:05,556 TRAVIS: This is at 240 frames per second, 311 00:15:05,730 --> 00:15:07,515 so it's moving pretty fast. 312 00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:10,474 ERIK: This thing's got to be moving really fast. 313 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:15,218 So, I guess the first thing we've got to rule out would be: 314 00:15:15,392 --> 00:15:18,178 -Is it a bug? -Mm-hmm. 315 00:15:18,352 --> 00:15:19,614 TRAVIS: That's about 20 pixels when you measure across 316 00:15:19,788 --> 00:15:21,485 -whatever that size is? -ERIK: Thereabouts, yeah. 317 00:15:21,659 --> 00:15:24,532 That's tiny. That's like the thickness of a piece of paper. 318 00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:26,403 So it's not on the lens. 319 00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:28,405 Whatever it is, that size cannot be-- it's not on the lens. 320 00:15:28,579 --> 00:15:31,104 So, I think it's out there. 321 00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:33,193 -The other interesting thing about this, though... -TRAVIS: Well, look. 322 00:15:33,367 --> 00:15:35,935 ERIK: ...is that it doesn't move in just one direction. 323 00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:37,675 -You want me to play it at normal speed? -Yeah, play it normal speed. 324 00:15:37,806 --> 00:15:39,025 ERIK: Watch this. 325 00:15:40,678 --> 00:15:43,638 Notice how this thing literally seems to stop 326 00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:45,509 right at the edge. 327 00:15:45,683 --> 00:15:48,469 TRAVIS: Right at the dadgum helicopter blades. 328 00:15:48,643 --> 00:15:50,253 Look, it got about to the helicopter 329 00:15:50,384 --> 00:15:52,473 and then starts moving away from it. 330 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,215 Gonna go back to its native speed. Watch carefully. 331 00:15:57,434 --> 00:16:00,002 KALEB: Almost as if it's meandering around. 332 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:02,004 -TRAVIS: Yeah. Yeah. -KALEB: Kind of checking out the helicopter almost. 333 00:16:02,178 --> 00:16:04,137 ERIK: It sure looks that way, doesn't it? 334 00:16:05,660 --> 00:16:08,402 -What? -What are the chances? 335 00:16:08,576 --> 00:16:11,796 TRAVIS: This UAP maneuvered around Cameron's helicopter 336 00:16:11,971 --> 00:16:14,103 like it was trying to monitor it. 337 00:16:14,277 --> 00:16:16,279 What in the world was it? 338 00:16:16,453 --> 00:16:19,326 Could it have been the source of that 1.6 gigahertz signal? 339 00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:21,893 And was it also connected 340 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,679 to all of Kendra and Sam's plane malfunctions? 341 00:16:24,809 --> 00:16:27,029 Well, here's the thing. Why did nobody else see this? 342 00:16:27,247 --> 00:16:28,726 Is it moving so fast 343 00:16:28,900 --> 00:16:30,641 that we just didn't notice it with the eye? 344 00:16:30,728 --> 00:16:35,037 So, then, the question is: What are we dealing with? 345 00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:37,257 That's-that's the big question. 346 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:38,867 What are we dealing with? 347 00:16:39,085 --> 00:16:40,390 So if we've interpreted this properly, 348 00:16:40,564 --> 00:16:43,350 not only are we looking at great speed 349 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,049 but we're looking at maneuvers being executed at great speed. 350 00:16:47,223 --> 00:16:48,920 TRAVIS: So, we need to figure this out. 351 00:16:49,051 --> 00:16:50,574 We-we got to figure out the right way 352 00:16:50,792 --> 00:16:53,708 to probe the region directly above the triangle. 353 00:16:53,882 --> 00:16:55,449 All right. Well, great discussion, guys. 354 00:16:55,666 --> 00:16:57,886 -I-I appreciate it as always. -Great stuff, Erik. 355 00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:00,062 -KALEB: Thanks for bringing it to our attention. -Yeah, man. 356 00:17:00,236 --> 00:17:02,543 TRAVIS: You've clearly found something in there, though. 357 00:17:09,158 --> 00:17:10,768 THOMAS: Well, I appreciate the fact 358 00:17:10,855 --> 00:17:11,943 that even though there's been some challenges, 359 00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:13,771 these guys have stuck with it. 360 00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:17,514 -Absolutely. -Overcome some-some obstacles, 361 00:17:17,688 --> 00:17:18,994 literally speaking, 362 00:17:19,168 --> 00:17:21,605 and are ready to get back at it again. 363 00:17:21,779 --> 00:17:24,739 TRAVIS: While we worked on plans for a new investigation 364 00:17:24,956 --> 00:17:27,133 at the triangle, we checked in at the mesa, 365 00:17:27,307 --> 00:17:30,397 located about a quarter of a mile to the west, 366 00:17:30,571 --> 00:17:34,009 where another operation has been underway for several weeks. 367 00:17:34,140 --> 00:17:36,011 So you're about to fire it up now, then? 368 00:17:36,098 --> 00:17:38,405 Everything's fixed, ready to go. 369 00:17:38,579 --> 00:17:41,060 TRAVIS: According to numerous ground-penetrating radar scans, 370 00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:43,758 there appears to be a 400-foot-long, 371 00:17:43,932 --> 00:17:46,761 dome-shaped object and numerous smaller anomalies 372 00:17:46,935 --> 00:17:49,633 around it, buried deep inside the mesa. 373 00:17:49,807 --> 00:17:52,767 Two previous drilling operations in recent years 374 00:17:52,941 --> 00:17:54,203 could not penetrate it. 375 00:17:55,422 --> 00:17:58,338 But metallic fragments were found in the spoils 376 00:17:58,512 --> 00:18:01,123 that proved to be made of the same kinds of materials 377 00:18:01,297 --> 00:18:03,734 that NASA uses on the surface of spacecraft. 378 00:18:05,171 --> 00:18:06,694 So, for the last three weeks, 379 00:18:06,868 --> 00:18:09,000 the team from Mark Construction Drilling 380 00:18:09,175 --> 00:18:10,915 has been using a much more powerful drill 381 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:12,874 than we've ever used before. 382 00:18:13,048 --> 00:18:15,442 They'll drill the first of two boreholes 383 00:18:15,659 --> 00:18:17,226 all the way through the mesa 384 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,881 that will surround these anomalies. 385 00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:22,666 This will allow us to insert a number of scanning devices 386 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,191 to better identify what these things are 387 00:18:25,365 --> 00:18:28,237 and plan for how to finally uncover them. 388 00:18:29,456 --> 00:18:31,501 Any idea what caused it to snap to start with? 389 00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:33,895 Uh, it was a pretty... it was a pretty rough spot. 390 00:18:34,069 --> 00:18:35,636 We went through it really slow 391 00:18:35,723 --> 00:18:38,639 and just kind of let the-the bit do its work. 392 00:18:38,813 --> 00:18:41,250 TRAVIS: Last week, even with this new team's 393 00:18:41,424 --> 00:18:43,383 much more powerful rig, 394 00:18:43,557 --> 00:18:45,472 -the drill rod snapped into pieces... -[sharp pop] 395 00:18:45,646 --> 00:18:47,735 -Did you feel that? -Yeah. 396 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:50,520 TRAVIS: ...a little over 100 feet inside the mesa 397 00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:53,784 after possibly making contact with one of these anomalies. 398 00:18:53,958 --> 00:18:55,438 Everything good down there, bud? 399 00:18:55,569 --> 00:18:58,485 No, I'm pretty sure we just broke off. 400 00:18:58,702 --> 00:19:01,705 So after retrieving the broken drill rod, 401 00:19:01,879 --> 00:19:03,359 hopefully they'll have better luck 402 00:19:03,577 --> 00:19:06,232 in helping us figure out what's really inside there. 403 00:19:06,362 --> 00:19:09,887 We're already back, and we're past the spot where we snapped. 404 00:19:10,061 --> 00:19:11,367 THOMAS: I'm, uh, super encouraged. 405 00:19:11,541 --> 00:19:13,891 They're exactly where we need to be. 406 00:19:14,065 --> 00:19:15,850 If things keep trending the way they are, 407 00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:18,592 they're gonna get us a beautiful cross section 408 00:19:18,766 --> 00:19:20,898 right across whatever that object is there in the hill. 409 00:19:21,029 --> 00:19:24,685 Gonna be perfect positioning to-to be able to go in there 410 00:19:24,859 --> 00:19:27,209 and do further analysis and allow us to get 411 00:19:27,383 --> 00:19:29,690 a better picture of what might be in there. 412 00:19:29,864 --> 00:19:31,866 -I know that's what we all want to hear. -TRAVIS: Heck yeah. 413 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,215 That's great. 414 00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:34,912 Well, let's get moving. 415 00:19:35,086 --> 00:19:36,479 -Good luck, guys. -THOMAS: Thank you. 416 00:19:36,653 --> 00:19:38,351 TRAVIS: The drilling operation 417 00:19:38,481 --> 00:19:41,441 was going to take several days to be completed. 418 00:19:41,571 --> 00:19:44,835 So, after we left the drillers to keep up the hard work... 419 00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:48,099 ...later that day... 420 00:19:48,274 --> 00:19:50,450 ERIK: Well, welcome to the ranch, Ryan. 421 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,930 Thanks for having me. Excited to be here. 422 00:19:53,104 --> 00:19:55,063 -ERIK: Welcome back, Jay. -Thank you. 423 00:19:55,237 --> 00:19:57,805 TRAVIS: ...we met with two very special guests in the command center: 424 00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:01,983 Jay Stratton, my former boss on the UAP Task Force, 425 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,854 who also oversaw Robert Bigelow's investigation 426 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,466 of the ranch back in the early 2000s, 427 00:20:06,553 --> 00:20:10,121 and Ryan Graves, a former Navy pilot, 428 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,385 who recently testified before Congress 429 00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:14,474 as a UAP whistleblower. 430 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:17,607 Given all the UAP sightings that we've had on the ranch, 431 00:20:17,781 --> 00:20:19,914 including the one we saw near Cameron Fugal's helicopter 432 00:20:20,088 --> 00:20:22,351 above the triangle the other day, 433 00:20:22,525 --> 00:20:25,572 ranch owner Brandon Fugal arranged for Jay to come back 434 00:20:25,746 --> 00:20:27,487 and bring Ryan Graves with him. 435 00:20:27,617 --> 00:20:30,838 We wanted him to assess some of our documented sightings 436 00:20:31,012 --> 00:20:34,581 because he now helps operate a UAP research organization 437 00:20:34,755 --> 00:20:39,281 in the private sector known as Americans for Safe Aerospace. 438 00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:42,893 We're real interested in what your interest is 439 00:20:43,024 --> 00:20:45,287 in Skinwalker Ranch, and we want to show you some things 440 00:20:45,461 --> 00:20:47,420 and get your perspective on it, and of course, 441 00:20:47,594 --> 00:20:49,900 we're very interested in, you know, uh, 442 00:20:50,074 --> 00:20:53,339 the events that-that you've been through in-in your career. 443 00:20:53,469 --> 00:20:55,602 So we can determine if we've seen similar events 444 00:20:55,776 --> 00:20:57,430 that compares to what you've seen. 445 00:20:57,604 --> 00:20:59,040 Yeah, well, I'd be happy to share that. 446 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:04,393 I was a former F-18 pilot in the U.S. Navy for 11 years. 447 00:21:04,611 --> 00:21:05,742 And during that time, 448 00:21:05,916 --> 00:21:07,701 we were running into UAP 449 00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:10,094 or what's commonly known as UFOs. 450 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:11,835 We didn't know what they were. 451 00:21:12,009 --> 00:21:13,620 We didn't know where they came from. 452 00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,622 And we didn't know what their intent was. 453 00:21:15,796 --> 00:21:18,189 There was no way to report these issues. 454 00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:19,756 And so about a year ago, we started 455 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:21,410 Americans for Safe Aerospace 456 00:21:21,584 --> 00:21:23,978 as a way of engaging with pilots in order to 457 00:21:24,152 --> 00:21:26,633 get to the bottom of what pilots are seeing 458 00:21:26,807 --> 00:21:28,417 and to also provide them with the mechanisms 459 00:21:28,591 --> 00:21:30,593 to be able to report these issues. 460 00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:33,857 This caught the attention, uh, of members of Congress. 461 00:21:33,988 --> 00:21:38,209 In July 2023, I was invited to testify before Congress 462 00:21:38,384 --> 00:21:41,169 about the reality of UAP, and I was there to represent 463 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,737 my story and also represent the issues 464 00:21:43,911 --> 00:21:45,652 that commercial and military pilots have been 465 00:21:45,869 --> 00:21:48,655 dealing with when seeing objects while they're flying. 466 00:21:48,872 --> 00:21:51,048 If we can learn something here at the ranch that allows us 467 00:21:51,222 --> 00:21:54,051 to-to translate that to-to aviation safety, 468 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:55,096 then I'm all for it. 469 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:56,445 That's why I'm here. 470 00:21:56,619 --> 00:21:58,447 So, Ryan, why don't you tell us 471 00:21:58,621 --> 00:22:00,493 a-a little bit more, like, in details, 472 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,930 -like, the events where you saw something. -RYAN: Certainly. 473 00:22:03,104 --> 00:22:04,845 So we were operating off the coast of Virginia Beach, 474 00:22:05,019 --> 00:22:07,891 and the squadron I was in-- VFA 11-- uh, 475 00:22:08,065 --> 00:22:10,198 it was a Super Hornet squadron, and we would be flying 476 00:22:10,372 --> 00:22:11,852 off the coast on a regular basis. 477 00:22:12,026 --> 00:22:14,942 And when we would fly out to those areas, 478 00:22:15,159 --> 00:22:16,857 we would go out there with one jet, two jet, four jets, 479 00:22:17,074 --> 00:22:19,599 eight jets perhaps, and we started seeing objects 480 00:22:19,773 --> 00:22:22,297 on our radar, uh, that we didn't know what they were. 481 00:22:22,471 --> 00:22:24,299 Now, at first, we were like, 482 00:22:24,473 --> 00:22:26,257 "All right, let's go figure out what these are," right? 483 00:22:26,432 --> 00:22:27,824 So we would get them on a radar, we'd get closer, 484 00:22:27,955 --> 00:22:29,348 we'd start to see them on our camera systems, 485 00:22:29,522 --> 00:22:31,132 and we'd slow down trying to get as close 486 00:22:31,306 --> 00:22:32,699 to this object as we can, you know, 487 00:22:32,873 --> 00:22:34,265 not to exceed our safety bubble. 488 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,181 And we would come up within 500 feet, 489 00:22:37,312 --> 00:22:39,923 and we're not able to visually pick out this object. 490 00:22:40,097 --> 00:22:42,491 So you could see them in your equipment but not with the, 491 00:22:42,665 --> 00:22:44,101 -with the human eye? -Correct. 492 00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:46,408 -We've seen that before, right? -ERIK: Yes. 493 00:22:46,539 --> 00:22:47,757 RYAN: And that's why I'm interested to be here 494 00:22:47,931 --> 00:22:49,890 because you guys are doing scientific work. 495 00:22:50,064 --> 00:22:53,284 You guys are seeing strange things here. 496 00:22:53,459 --> 00:22:55,330 I mean, that would be an incredible thing if we can 497 00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:57,463 find similarities, both what pilots have been seeing 498 00:22:57,550 --> 00:22:59,987 at high altitudes or within our operating airspace 499 00:23:00,161 --> 00:23:01,945 and finding those same things happening here, 500 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,556 because this would potentially provide a lab 501 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:06,080 to study it in a more controlled manner. 502 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:08,256 I've always felt that it's, if not a laboratory, 503 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,692 it's certainly an observatory. 504 00:23:09,866 --> 00:23:12,042 That there's a lot going on here. 505 00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:13,740 There seems to be a nexus of 506 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:15,219 a lot of very different kinds of phenomenology. 507 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:17,178 UAPs apparently being one of them. 508 00:23:17,352 --> 00:23:19,441 Several examples of which we're gonna share with you. 509 00:23:19,615 --> 00:23:21,182 Love to get your thoughts on it. 510 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,793 Here is some footage that I found 511 00:23:23,924 --> 00:23:25,752 just absolutely fascinating. 512 00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:29,625 You're seeing high-speed footage, 240 frames per second. 513 00:23:29,756 --> 00:23:31,932 And you see the helicopter above the, 514 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:33,586 the area that we refer to as the triangle. 515 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,892 Now, I want to draw your attention to something 516 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:37,590 that enters the field of view here. 517 00:23:41,376 --> 00:23:43,378 RYAN: How do you interpret that? 518 00:23:43,552 --> 00:23:44,945 ERIK: This is not a bird. 519 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,555 -This is not a drone. -TRAVIS: It's not a bug. 520 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,252 ERIK: Not a bug. 521 00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,298 It's clearly not on the lens, whatever it is. 522 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:52,474 And check this out. 523 00:23:52,605 --> 00:23:54,433 Erik and I sat here and said, "Whoa, it's gonna go 524 00:23:54,607 --> 00:23:56,522 "behind the helicopter blades so we'll get to know how-- 525 00:23:56,739 --> 00:23:59,089 at least how far away the minimum is on it, right?" 526 00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:00,874 ERIK: So I'm gonna play through it at normal speed. 527 00:24:01,048 --> 00:24:03,180 TRAVIS: So right there. 528 00:24:03,398 --> 00:24:05,705 And it's playing with us, right? 529 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:08,098 And it turns and goes the other way. 530 00:24:08,316 --> 00:24:10,623 So that we can't get that data. 531 00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:12,886 -RYAN: Wow. -ERIK: So let's view this 532 00:24:13,016 --> 00:24:14,540 with, uh, a type of enhancement 533 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:16,977 that sometimes helps us bring out the details. 534 00:24:17,151 --> 00:24:20,067 Here's an emboss filter. 535 00:24:20,241 --> 00:24:23,679 You know, as this thing approaches the-the aircraft. 536 00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:25,986 TRAVIS: It certainly doesn't seem random, does it? 537 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,511 RYAN: And it seems to be just navigating of its own accord. 538 00:24:29,685 --> 00:24:31,774 That is an interesting statement. 539 00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:34,995 "Navigating... on its own accord." 540 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:46,876 RYAN: It seems to be just navigating of its own accord. 541 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:48,965 It certainly doesn't seem random, does it? 542 00:24:49,139 --> 00:24:51,315 That is an interesting statement. 543 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:54,493 "Navigating... on its own accord." 544 00:24:54,623 --> 00:24:56,669 RYAN: It looked like what we see: no propulsion, 545 00:24:56,843 --> 00:24:58,801 no wings... 546 00:24:58,975 --> 00:25:00,237 -Yep. -...uh, no IR energy 547 00:25:00,411 --> 00:25:02,631 shooting an exhaust out the back. 548 00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:05,416 TRAVIS: Comparing the UAP encounters of former Navy pilot 549 00:25:05,591 --> 00:25:07,854 Ryan Graves with what we've witnessed 550 00:25:08,028 --> 00:25:10,683 on Skinwalker Ranch was fascinating. 551 00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:14,425 It just confirms that we're dealing with phenomena out here 552 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,385 that our own military has been at a loss to identify 553 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:20,040 in different locations all across the U.S. 554 00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:21,607 and the world. 555 00:25:21,737 --> 00:25:22,869 What's out there is something 556 00:25:22,999 --> 00:25:24,348 we still don't understand what it is. 557 00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:26,263 And the same issue within the military is 558 00:25:26,394 --> 00:25:28,048 within the commercial world: no one wants to talk about it. 559 00:25:28,222 --> 00:25:29,963 And once they start sharing the stories with each other, 560 00:25:30,137 --> 00:25:31,704 they all of a sudden realize that there is something going on 561 00:25:31,878 --> 00:25:33,706 that many of them are seeing. 562 00:25:33,836 --> 00:25:35,882 This one particular day, we launched out on this flight, 563 00:25:36,056 --> 00:25:38,014 and we did not get any radar data. 564 00:25:38,188 --> 00:25:40,626 Uh, we did not receive any notification that this object 565 00:25:40,713 --> 00:25:42,932 were in front of our aircraft, but as soon as we entered 566 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:45,021 the working area, the two aircraft were coming 567 00:25:45,152 --> 00:25:46,980 right through one of these objects. 568 00:25:47,154 --> 00:25:49,373 One of these objects went right between the two aircraft. 569 00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:52,768 The lead aircraft was slightly closer to them, about 50 feet. 570 00:25:52,986 --> 00:25:55,336 And they described it as a dark gray or a black cube 571 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:56,903 inside of a clear sphere. 572 00:25:58,339 --> 00:26:00,602 They were able to estimate it to be about five 573 00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:02,038 to 15 feet in diameter. 574 00:26:02,169 --> 00:26:03,692 ERIK: Oh. 575 00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:05,302 Okay. 576 00:26:05,476 --> 00:26:07,609 ERIK: Uh, so I'd like to share an event 577 00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:10,699 that took place while we were attempting to do some... 578 00:26:10,830 --> 00:26:13,093 some work with a drone swarm 579 00:26:13,267 --> 00:26:15,530 as part of a, kind of a spatial mapping exercise 580 00:26:15,704 --> 00:26:17,663 out in the east field canyon area. 581 00:26:17,837 --> 00:26:19,665 KALEB: We got something right there. 582 00:26:19,795 --> 00:26:22,363 TRAVIS: Yeah, it is! That's it right there! 583 00:26:22,537 --> 00:26:24,800 Back in 2022, as we were conducting 584 00:26:24,974 --> 00:26:26,759 a drone swarm experiment in the east field, 585 00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:29,239 a UAP that looked very much 586 00:26:29,370 --> 00:26:31,677 like what Ryan Graves just described 587 00:26:31,851 --> 00:26:33,983 appeared in the sky for several seconds... 588 00:26:34,114 --> 00:26:35,724 It just disappeared. 589 00:26:35,898 --> 00:26:38,509 ...before vanishing into thin air. 590 00:26:38,684 --> 00:26:42,122 We had no idea what it was, but it looked like a possible 591 00:26:42,296 --> 00:26:44,603 nuts-and-bolts craft of some kind. 592 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,388 ERIK: So, um... 593 00:26:47,606 --> 00:26:50,130 this was not movement consistent with, 594 00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:51,479 say, a satellite or an aircraft. 595 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:54,047 -You don't see a strobe. -RYAN: Wow. 596 00:26:54,221 --> 00:26:56,484 TRAVIS: And we got several pictures of it 597 00:26:56,658 --> 00:26:58,791 with, uh, cell phones and other cameras. 598 00:26:58,965 --> 00:27:00,357 Uh, Erik, I don't know which one you got, 599 00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:01,663 but go ahead and bring that up. 600 00:27:01,837 --> 00:27:03,883 RYAN: Wow. 601 00:27:04,013 --> 00:27:06,407 TRAVIS: Every one of them shows it as a sphere with a, 602 00:27:06,537 --> 00:27:08,452 a black dot in the middle. 603 00:27:08,583 --> 00:27:10,367 And we had a good enough picture of it 604 00:27:10,498 --> 00:27:12,326 that I could go forward and make a three-dimensional model of. 605 00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:14,110 ERIK: I'm gonna bring that up. 606 00:27:15,372 --> 00:27:18,288 TRAVIS: You'll see the interior's held together by a cylinder. 607 00:27:18,462 --> 00:27:20,160 RYAN: That's incredible. 608 00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:22,292 We've seen-- over 50% of the objects 609 00:27:22,466 --> 00:27:23,642 we're seeing are spherical in nature. 610 00:27:23,816 --> 00:27:25,208 My good friends in the S Squadron, 611 00:27:25,382 --> 00:27:26,819 they were actually able to capture the object. 612 00:27:26,949 --> 00:27:28,777 We saw it on their FLIR system. 613 00:27:28,908 --> 00:27:30,126 They were actually able to break out a sphere 614 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:31,867 with a cube in it as well. 615 00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:33,826 -Wow. -They were able to see the actual, 616 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,262 you know, spherical structure. 617 00:27:35,436 --> 00:27:37,003 Wow, I did not know that statistic. 618 00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:39,570 -I-I find that interesting. -TRAVIS: One thing I'll mention. 619 00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:41,398 When we launch rockets, 620 00:27:41,572 --> 00:27:44,619 uh, more times than not, our instruments pick up 621 00:27:44,793 --> 00:27:49,406 something unusual, including what we perceive as UAP. 622 00:27:49,537 --> 00:27:52,540 And so, uh, is it a coincidence 623 00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:54,890 or are we actually stimulating or triggering 624 00:27:55,064 --> 00:27:56,718 some sort of phenomena to occur? 625 00:27:56,936 --> 00:27:59,416 So even something like this, a UAP like this. 626 00:27:59,547 --> 00:28:01,244 You-you think you might actually be triggering it by launching. 627 00:28:01,331 --> 00:28:03,116 There's clearly correlation is all we can say. 628 00:28:04,421 --> 00:28:06,162 RYAN: I applaud you for what you guys are doing to actually 629 00:28:06,336 --> 00:28:07,598 see what's out here. 630 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:09,600 TRAVIS: Well, with that in mind, we have 631 00:28:09,775 --> 00:28:12,865 a, uh, a-a fairly complex experiment planned. 632 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,650 And so, we're hoping to get a lot 633 00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:17,870 of data from that tonight, and we'll be happy to have 634 00:28:18,044 --> 00:28:19,959 you join us if you're interested in, uh, 635 00:28:20,133 --> 00:28:23,614 maybe adding another set of the Mark One Eyeball sensor 636 00:28:23,745 --> 00:28:26,269 on-onto the, uh, onto the problem. 637 00:28:26,443 --> 00:28:28,837 Absolutely, I'd love to. Thanks for having me. 638 00:28:29,055 --> 00:28:30,534 This is great. Well, we got stuff to do. 639 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:33,407 Let's get out there and get going. 640 00:28:37,367 --> 00:28:38,455 Hey, Dragon, Thomas? 641 00:28:38,629 --> 00:28:40,849 Do you guys copy? 642 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:42,198 Yeah, we're ready on this end, Travis. 643 00:28:42,329 --> 00:28:43,852 Copy that. 644 00:28:44,026 --> 00:28:45,941 All right, they're gonna launch the four rockets 645 00:28:46,115 --> 00:28:48,465 simultaneous with us. 646 00:28:48,596 --> 00:28:51,512 Uh, you guys are gonna run the rockets launch, all right? 647 00:28:51,642 --> 00:28:53,035 Kaleb, you're gonna run the lidar, 648 00:28:53,209 --> 00:28:54,733 uh, with the SLAM scanner. 649 00:28:54,907 --> 00:28:57,648 Pete, you're gonna fly what on the drone? 650 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:59,825 -Uh, thermal. -Okay. 651 00:28:59,955 --> 00:29:02,349 Our airplane experiment a couple of days ago 652 00:29:02,479 --> 00:29:04,917 unfortunately didn't get us any more data 653 00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:06,745 on the massive cone-shaped anomaly 654 00:29:06,919 --> 00:29:08,834 we recently detected that spanned 655 00:29:08,964 --> 00:29:11,140 from Homestead Two through the triangle, 656 00:29:11,314 --> 00:29:13,142 all the way over to the east field. 657 00:29:13,316 --> 00:29:16,276 So tonight, we're gonna see if launching 658 00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:18,234 a number of rockets while employing thermal 659 00:29:18,365 --> 00:29:20,106 and lidar technology might do the trick. 660 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,370 And we're really excited to have Ryan Graves 661 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,241 and Jay Stratton here to help. 662 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:28,810 Jay, Ryan if you don't mind, watch the screens here. 663 00:29:28,984 --> 00:29:31,595 If we see any signals come up, let me know. 664 00:29:31,726 --> 00:29:33,902 And keep an eye outside at the sky, right? 665 00:29:33,989 --> 00:29:36,296 'Cause you never know what's gonna happen. 666 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:40,082 Tonight, our friends from LOC Precision Rockets have designed 667 00:29:40,256 --> 00:29:42,911 two multi-rocket launching systems. 668 00:29:43,085 --> 00:29:45,479 One will be stationed at the triangle 669 00:29:45,653 --> 00:29:48,395 and the other will be over at the east field. 670 00:29:48,569 --> 00:29:50,876 Each station will conduct two rounds of 671 00:29:51,093 --> 00:29:53,574 four simultaneous rocket launches 672 00:29:53,748 --> 00:29:56,359 for a grand total of 16 rockets. 673 00:29:56,490 --> 00:29:58,579 The hope is that they might hit something 674 00:29:58,753 --> 00:30:02,365 in the air or trigger phenomena that will give us more data 675 00:30:02,496 --> 00:30:05,804 about what that massive cone we detected could possibly be. 676 00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:09,111 All right. 677 00:30:09,285 --> 00:30:10,678 Is that all four? 678 00:30:10,852 --> 00:30:11,853 -Yep. -Are the lights on in that one? 679 00:30:11,940 --> 00:30:13,246 Yep, lights are on. 680 00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:15,291 TRAVIS: Meanwhile, 681 00:30:15,465 --> 00:30:17,990 we'll be scanning the area with an infrared lidar drone 682 00:30:18,164 --> 00:30:19,948 as well as a FLIR thermal camera, 683 00:30:20,122 --> 00:30:23,082 which Ryan Graves will personally monitor 684 00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:26,302 to look for any signs of the cone-shaped anomaly 685 00:30:26,433 --> 00:30:28,174 or other phenomena that we might not be able 686 00:30:28,304 --> 00:30:29,653 to see with the naked eye. 687 00:30:36,965 --> 00:30:38,488 Yeah, Bryant, we are clear. 688 00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:40,882 TRAVIS: And all during the experiment, 689 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,667 Erik will be in the command center monitoring us 690 00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:46,279 on his surveillance cameras and keeping a close eye 691 00:30:46,453 --> 00:30:48,020 on his new Kraken system. 692 00:30:49,935 --> 00:30:52,546 This is a new array of antennas that can pinpoint 693 00:30:52,763 --> 00:30:55,288 the location of any strange radio signals, 694 00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:59,422 like the ones at 1.6 gigahertz that we often detect out here. 695 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,209 Hopefully, tonight will reveal something incredible. 696 00:31:03,426 --> 00:31:05,646 Okay, does everybody know what we're doing? 697 00:31:05,733 --> 00:31:07,474 All right, let's go. Let's do it. 698 00:31:10,216 --> 00:31:12,174 RYAN: I was tasked with monitoring the thermal camera. 699 00:31:12,348 --> 00:31:14,176 My experience monitoring 700 00:31:14,307 --> 00:31:16,048 the AT-FLIR in the F-18, uh, Travis thought 701 00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:17,614 it'd be a good idea for me to keep 702 00:31:17,788 --> 00:31:19,355 my eyes open on the FLIR to see if I could see 703 00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:20,791 anything that looked familiar. 704 00:31:20,966 --> 00:31:21,880 Okay, taking off. 705 00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:30,584 Hey, Dragon, Thomas, you guys copy? 706 00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:32,412 Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 707 00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:34,109 TRAVIS [over walkie]: We are very close. 708 00:31:34,283 --> 00:31:36,329 Uh, the lights are ready on the rockets. 709 00:31:36,546 --> 00:31:38,331 We have a drone in the air. 710 00:31:38,548 --> 00:31:41,769 Uh, Kaleb is about to start the lidar here. 711 00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:44,728 Copy that. 712 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:47,035 I'm gonna go down and start that terrestrial scanner. 713 00:31:47,209 --> 00:31:48,863 Okay, I'm gonna get out here where I can see you, guys. 714 00:31:51,431 --> 00:31:53,172 All armed. 715 00:31:53,346 --> 00:31:54,651 TRAVIS [over walkie]: Rockets are going hot! 716 00:31:54,825 --> 00:31:56,697 THOMAS: Ten, nine, 717 00:31:56,871 --> 00:32:00,266 eight, seven, six, 718 00:32:00,353 --> 00:32:01,571 five, four, 719 00:32:01,702 --> 00:32:05,532 three, two, one. 720 00:32:07,969 --> 00:32:09,797 TRAVIS: Oh! Did you see that? 721 00:32:13,714 --> 00:32:16,108 THOMAS [over walkie]: Three, two, one. 722 00:32:19,894 --> 00:32:21,678 TRAVIS: Oh! Did you see that? [whoops] 723 00:32:21,852 --> 00:32:23,506 ALLEN: I see strobes. 724 00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:25,465 KALEB: I've seen three. 725 00:32:25,639 --> 00:32:28,555 TRAVIS: We got one lawn dart somewhere. 726 00:32:28,729 --> 00:32:31,123 Okay, I only have two rockets in the air right now. 727 00:32:31,297 --> 00:32:33,821 -Do y'all see the third one? -DAVE: Yeah, I got three. 728 00:32:33,995 --> 00:32:36,432 Look at them go. 729 00:32:36,563 --> 00:32:38,913 What's weird is that one's headed north 730 00:32:39,044 --> 00:32:40,959 and that one's headed almost south. 731 00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:42,482 DAVE: How does that work? 732 00:32:42,569 --> 00:32:43,918 THOMAS: How can you have two chutes 733 00:32:44,136 --> 00:32:45,311 being blown different directions? 734 00:32:45,485 --> 00:32:47,139 DAVE: They're right next to each other. 735 00:32:49,271 --> 00:32:51,317 TRAVIS: Oh, we got three in the valley here. 736 00:32:53,667 --> 00:32:56,148 Whoa, they're coming down slow. 737 00:32:57,758 --> 00:32:59,194 Hey, Thomas, 738 00:32:59,368 --> 00:33:01,892 do you copy? 739 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:03,372 Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 740 00:33:03,546 --> 00:33:06,897 TRAVIS: We had four successful launches. 741 00:33:07,028 --> 00:33:09,683 Three of the chutes deployed properly. 742 00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:11,641 How did yours do? 743 00:33:11,815 --> 00:33:13,469 Well, that's very interesting. 744 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,168 We had four that launched, uh, on time. 745 00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:27,831 We had two coming down right next to each other. 746 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:31,748 One got blown clear to the north and the one right next to it 747 00:33:31,966 --> 00:33:33,881 got blown to the south simultaneously. 748 00:33:38,407 --> 00:33:40,018 DAVE: We've seen things here at Skinwalker Ranch 749 00:33:40,148 --> 00:33:42,411 that you just don't see elsewhere. 750 00:33:42,585 --> 00:33:45,153 We've been doing this for over 30 years, 751 00:33:45,327 --> 00:33:46,894 and so when rockets start going 752 00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:48,330 a different direction than predicted, 753 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:49,592 you kind of got to raise a hand and say, 754 00:33:49,766 --> 00:33:51,333 "Well, why did that happen?" 755 00:33:51,551 --> 00:33:52,987 But at Skinwalker Ranch, we've found out things are 756 00:33:53,118 --> 00:33:55,120 anything but normal trying to fly rockets. 757 00:33:55,294 --> 00:33:56,904 And the answers don't aways come easily. 758 00:33:58,819 --> 00:33:59,950 TRAVIS: Yeah, go ahead, Erik. 759 00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:01,865 ERIK: Um, during the launches, 760 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,868 the Kraken has been tracking 761 00:34:04,999 --> 00:34:07,262 a very consistent 1.6 gigahertz signal 762 00:34:07,436 --> 00:34:11,701 from the triangle, uh, down to the southern fence line. 763 00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:15,923 TRAVIS: Wow, that's kind of the direction the rockets went. 764 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,582 I'd love to have validation, uh, from your instruments out there 765 00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:24,714 and see if you're picking up the same thing. 766 00:34:24,845 --> 00:34:27,543 Okay, I'm running, um-- I'm gonna turn this antenna. 767 00:34:27,717 --> 00:34:29,937 Erik says it's to the south. 768 00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:32,200 We weren't sure what to make 769 00:34:32,374 --> 00:34:33,897 of the malfunctions that happened 770 00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,595 with the first launch of eight rockets 771 00:34:35,769 --> 00:34:37,684 between the east field and the triangle. 772 00:34:37,858 --> 00:34:39,381 But then, when Erik said 773 00:34:39,512 --> 00:34:41,601 he was detecting a 1.6 gigahertz signal 774 00:34:41,775 --> 00:34:43,516 on his Kraken system, 775 00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:45,692 coming from somewhere south of the triangle, 776 00:34:45,779 --> 00:34:48,260 it made me wonder if these two things were connected. 777 00:34:48,434 --> 00:34:50,436 Come on, come on, come on, come on. 778 00:34:52,655 --> 00:34:54,309 Yeah. 779 00:34:54,396 --> 00:34:56,529 That is really weird. 780 00:34:56,703 --> 00:34:58,270 So we're getting some kind of signal, 781 00:34:58,444 --> 00:34:59,967 and that's the antenna that's pointed back here 782 00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:01,186 where Erik said there was something 783 00:35:01,273 --> 00:35:03,405 -coming up on the Kraken. -Yeah. 784 00:35:03,536 --> 00:35:06,930 TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey, uh, Dragon, Thomas, you copy? 785 00:35:07,061 --> 00:35:09,368 Yes, Travis, we copy you. 786 00:35:09,585 --> 00:35:11,674 Did you guys hear, uh, Erik? 787 00:35:11,848 --> 00:35:13,807 Uh, we've got a 1.6 gigahertz signal, 788 00:35:13,981 --> 00:35:17,767 according to the Kraken, uh, south of us somewhere. 789 00:35:17,898 --> 00:35:19,378 I find that interesting. 790 00:35:19,552 --> 00:35:20,596 THOMAS: We agree. 791 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:24,557 TRAVIS: Erik, let's keep an eye on that. 792 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,341 Understood, Travis. 793 00:35:26,515 --> 00:35:27,995 I'm watching. 794 00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:32,042 The Kraken antenna array system, whose purpose 795 00:35:32,217 --> 00:35:34,349 is to direction find 796 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,612 and tell us where signals are coming from, 797 00:35:36,830 --> 00:35:38,788 indicates that we have 798 00:35:38,919 --> 00:35:43,228 a source of 1.6 gigahertz 799 00:35:43,358 --> 00:35:45,839 electromagnetic radiation that is, in fact, 800 00:35:46,013 --> 00:35:47,623 to the south and west of the ranch. 801 00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:49,364 Now, why would that be happening? 802 00:35:49,538 --> 00:35:51,149 As far as we can tell, there's nothing 803 00:35:51,323 --> 00:35:53,629 from what would be south of the fence line 804 00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:55,370 that should account for that. 805 00:35:55,588 --> 00:35:57,938 TRAVIS [over walkie]: All right, be advised. 806 00:35:58,112 --> 00:35:59,853 I think this is gonna be our last launch for the evening. 807 00:36:05,337 --> 00:36:06,512 Copy that. 808 00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:10,820 TRAVIS [over walkie]: Hey, can we get everybody back into position 809 00:36:10,994 --> 00:36:12,518 for our next test, please? 810 00:36:12,692 --> 00:36:14,563 All right, guys. 811 00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:15,608 -Thomas, you calling? -THOMAS [over walkie]: Yeah. 812 00:36:15,782 --> 00:36:19,220 Five, four, three, 813 00:36:19,307 --> 00:36:20,700 two, one. 814 00:36:24,094 --> 00:36:26,053 TRAVIS: We have four rockets. 815 00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:30,536 One chute. 816 00:36:35,802 --> 00:36:38,196 Oh, I only see one chute. 817 00:36:40,154 --> 00:36:42,722 Two, three, four. We got all four chutes. 818 00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:46,813 Yeah, I can see theirs, too. 819 00:36:46,943 --> 00:36:49,207 They're coming right down on top of us. 820 00:36:50,382 --> 00:36:51,339 Oh, what's that? 821 00:36:51,513 --> 00:36:53,211 Right there. What's that? 822 00:36:59,478 --> 00:37:01,480 We got something, Travis. 823 00:37:01,654 --> 00:37:03,482 You found something? 824 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:06,267 Yeah, it was in the cloud layer up here, 825 00:37:06,398 --> 00:37:08,704 and it was descending down. 826 00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:15,668 TRAVIS: Erik, be advised. 827 00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:18,758 Uh, Ryan just saw something in, uh, 828 00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:21,282 the thermal camera. 829 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,154 Uh, from our perspective at the triangle, 830 00:37:24,372 --> 00:37:26,200 it was northeast, 831 00:37:26,418 --> 00:37:29,464 and it was while the rockets were in the air. 832 00:37:29,638 --> 00:37:30,683 Okay, guys, be advised. 833 00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:33,033 There is no transponding traffic, 834 00:37:33,207 --> 00:37:34,643 uh, in that location. 835 00:37:34,817 --> 00:37:36,950 There's nothing to the north of the ranch, 836 00:37:37,167 --> 00:37:39,169 and there has not been anything, uh, 837 00:37:39,344 --> 00:37:41,563 flying to the north of the ranch on the ADS-B 838 00:37:41,737 --> 00:37:43,565 for the last several minutes. 839 00:37:43,739 --> 00:37:45,306 Well, that's very interesting. 840 00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:48,918 Just after launching our second series of eight rockets 841 00:37:49,049 --> 00:37:51,312 between the east field and the triangle, 842 00:37:51,443 --> 00:37:55,011 former Navy pilot Ryan Graves spotted a UAP in the sky 843 00:37:55,098 --> 00:37:56,491 on our thermal camera. 844 00:37:56,709 --> 00:37:58,885 No one else happened to see it in the moment, 845 00:37:59,015 --> 00:38:01,931 but then Erik confirmed that his ADS-B system, 846 00:38:02,018 --> 00:38:04,107 which tracks conventional aircraft 847 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:07,546 within 150 miles of the ranch, didn't pick it up either. 848 00:38:07,676 --> 00:38:11,201 So if it wasn't an airplane, what the heck did Ryan see? 849 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:12,551 PETE: We got to watch that again. 850 00:38:16,903 --> 00:38:18,513 -TRAVIS: That's moving fast. -RYAN: Yeah. 851 00:38:18,687 --> 00:38:20,602 TRAVIS: Then you see it turn, too. 852 00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:21,734 -It looked like it did a maneuver. -RYAN: It did. Yep. 853 00:38:21,908 --> 00:38:23,823 That thing is moving fast. 854 00:38:25,085 --> 00:38:27,870 Those clouds are five miles away at least. 855 00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:29,655 So that thing is moving. 856 00:38:31,918 --> 00:38:33,441 And to the northeast again. 857 00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:35,443 TRAVIS: And to the northeast. Yeah, right there. 858 00:38:35,661 --> 00:38:37,663 Right there at the, uh, in-and-out spot. 859 00:38:37,837 --> 00:38:39,752 Kind of looked like it was diving down. 860 00:38:41,014 --> 00:38:41,841 TRAVIS: Absolutely did. 861 00:38:42,015 --> 00:38:44,147 That's a great catch. 862 00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:46,324 It looked like it went behind the clouds, didn't it? 863 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,718 This UAP, whatever it was, 864 00:38:49,849 --> 00:38:52,199 descended right down toward the mesa, 865 00:38:52,373 --> 00:38:54,027 and then seemed to disappear 866 00:38:54,201 --> 00:38:56,290 right where we've previously recorded video 867 00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:58,814 of other UAPs exiting the mesa 868 00:38:58,988 --> 00:39:01,948 and then flying right toward the triangle. 869 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:04,907 Erik Bard. 870 00:39:05,125 --> 00:39:08,215 I don't know if it's connected to the huge cone-shaped anomaly, 871 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,565 but it definitely appeared within its boundaries. 872 00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,567 So, what could it have been? 873 00:39:12,741 --> 00:39:14,569 Well, I think we got a lot of data. 874 00:39:14,787 --> 00:39:17,006 Did I hear right that one of you guys 875 00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:18,399 caught something flying into the mesa? 876 00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:24,057 Ryan saw it on, uh, thermal while Pete was flying the drone. 877 00:39:24,187 --> 00:39:27,365 -Towards the out? -TRAVIS: Yeah, right by the out. 878 00:39:27,582 --> 00:39:29,105 And it made a maneuver, too, as it came down. 879 00:39:29,279 --> 00:39:30,846 -It made a big turn. -It did. It did. -Oh, wow. 880 00:39:30,977 --> 00:39:32,631 -It made a jog to the east. -Oh, wow. 881 00:39:32,805 --> 00:39:35,329 Yeah, I'm gonna say it was moving really fast. 882 00:39:35,503 --> 00:39:36,896 RYAN: I think it's very important that they continue doing 883 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:38,724 what they're doing here at the ranch, 884 00:39:38,898 --> 00:39:40,595 because at the end of the day, 885 00:39:40,682 --> 00:39:42,292 we're really only gonna be able to understand this 886 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,686 if we're able to understand in a repeatable manner. 887 00:39:44,817 --> 00:39:46,471 You know, they seem to be getting data here. 888 00:39:46,645 --> 00:39:48,298 There seems to be something that is happening. 889 00:39:48,473 --> 00:39:50,126 It started pretty high up in the sky, 890 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:52,215 and it was moving down pretty quick. 891 00:39:52,346 --> 00:39:53,956 I would be thrilled to continue to work 892 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,176 with the team to help figure out what this is, 893 00:39:56,350 --> 00:39:59,397 and we can continue the conversation and gather data. 894 00:39:59,527 --> 00:40:01,442 You know, on my display, I see an indication 895 00:40:01,616 --> 00:40:04,010 of where that 1.6 gigahertz is coming from, 896 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:06,578 and throughout our entire exercise tonight, 897 00:40:06,752 --> 00:40:08,536 it's been pointing predominantly, 898 00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:09,929 you know, out that way somewhere. 899 00:40:10,103 --> 00:40:12,322 That sounds really odd. 900 00:40:12,453 --> 00:40:14,150 But, uh, I'm ready to break it down. 901 00:40:14,281 --> 00:40:16,501 All right, well, you know, I think it's a-a great experiment. 902 00:40:16,675 --> 00:40:19,460 Yeah, and thanks again for all you guys being here. 903 00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:21,157 We appreciate it. 904 00:40:21,331 --> 00:40:22,594 TRAVIS: All right. 905 00:40:25,205 --> 00:40:26,641 The entire world wants to know the truth 906 00:40:26,772 --> 00:40:28,774 behind the UAP phenomenon. 907 00:40:28,904 --> 00:40:31,037 There's too many credible witnesses out there, 908 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,387 like Ryan Graves and Jay Stratton, 909 00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:36,608 to deny that this is one of the great mysteries of our time. 910 00:40:37,957 --> 00:40:40,263 As we've all just witnessed again, 911 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:44,137 the answers may lie hidden right here on Skinwalker Ranch. 912 00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:46,139 So we're gonna keep poking this nest 913 00:40:46,313 --> 00:40:48,707 until we reveal what they are. 914 00:40:50,012 --> 00:40:52,014 ERIK: It really seems that we've had company in the skies 915 00:40:52,145 --> 00:40:54,756 during aviation exercises. 916 00:40:54,930 --> 00:40:57,716 The more we do this work in the airspace over the triangle, 917 00:40:57,890 --> 00:40:59,935 the more I'm thinking about what additional tools 918 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:02,329 could be brought to bear on this problem, 919 00:41:02,503 --> 00:41:04,766 to study this very interesting region 920 00:41:04,940 --> 00:41:06,464 of the airspace over the ranch. 921 00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:09,379 BRANDON: To have an American hero, 922 00:41:09,467 --> 00:41:11,294 like Ryan Graves, 923 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,950 come to the ranch and to witness with his own eyes 924 00:41:15,124 --> 00:41:16,386 the high strangeness 925 00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:19,607 and the reality of the investigation 926 00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:21,696 is a privilege. 927 00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:24,917 We will continue to engage experts, like Ryan, 928 00:41:25,091 --> 00:41:27,963 in service to helping us better understand 929 00:41:28,050 --> 00:41:30,357 what is happening at Skinwalker Ranch. 930 00:41:34,013 --> 00:41:35,188 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS