1 00:00:01,875 --> 00:00:04,042 ERIK: This is unlike any experiment we've done before. 2 00:00:04,208 --> 00:00:06,125 We're gonna have two helicopters flying over the triangle 3 00:00:06,250 --> 00:00:08,042 sending signals back and forth. 4 00:00:20,667 --> 00:00:23,667 What I'm going to show you was during the flight. 5 00:00:23,875 --> 00:00:27,000 TRAVIS: Oh, Lord, have mercy. That's on the ground. 6 00:00:27,167 --> 00:00:30,583 It looks like the other UAP that came out of the mesa. 7 00:00:30,708 --> 00:00:32,125 -Bingo. -That's amazing. 8 00:00:34,542 --> 00:00:38,833 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 9 00:00:38,958 --> 00:00:41,375 It is considered the epicenter 10 00:00:41,542 --> 00:00:46,500 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 11 00:00:46,708 --> 00:00:48,500 animal mutilations, 12 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:50,792 bizarre UFO sightings 13 00:00:50,958 --> 00:00:55,958 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 14 00:00:56,125 --> 00:00:58,667 For 20 years, the federal government 15 00:00:58,833 --> 00:01:02,000 tried to find answers and failed. 16 00:01:02,125 --> 00:01:05,458 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 17 00:01:05,625 --> 00:01:09,500 researchers and experts has taken over. 18 00:01:09,667 --> 00:01:14,125 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 19 00:01:15,958 --> 00:01:19,583 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 20 00:01:27,333 --> 00:01:29,667 THOMAS: Hey, guys, what are we looking at today? 21 00:01:29,875 --> 00:01:31,583 We're looking for a relationship 22 00:01:31,792 --> 00:01:33,500 between two things, okay? 23 00:01:33,708 --> 00:01:36,500 So last week, you know, we captured this object here 24 00:01:36,708 --> 00:01:38,500 during the course of the experiment 25 00:01:38,708 --> 00:01:40,000 with the two helicopters. 26 00:01:40,083 --> 00:01:41,375 BRYANT: Oh, yeah. 27 00:01:43,208 --> 00:01:44,958 ERIK: That's the first one and... 28 00:01:45,125 --> 00:01:47,750 you remember that light that seemed to go 29 00:01:47,917 --> 00:01:51,000 into the mesa and then come out right here on the property? 30 00:01:51,167 --> 00:01:53,042 Oh, that UAP that looked like 31 00:01:53,250 --> 00:01:54,583 -it came out of the mesa? -Yeah. 32 00:01:55,875 --> 00:01:58,708 Both of them seemed to be headed towards the triangle. 33 00:02:00,208 --> 00:02:02,167 TRAVIS: After our dual-helicopter experiment 34 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:04,167 above the triangle last week, 35 00:02:04,292 --> 00:02:07,875 led us to capturing video of a stunning orb-like UAP... 36 00:02:08,917 --> 00:02:11,500 ...Erik Bard realized that it looked very similar 37 00:02:11,708 --> 00:02:13,375 to something we documented last year. 38 00:02:15,625 --> 00:02:17,083 A UAP entered the mesa 39 00:02:17,250 --> 00:02:18,750 in the east field 40 00:02:18,875 --> 00:02:20,042 and then exited the mesa 41 00:02:20,208 --> 00:02:22,167 right near the triangle 42 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:25,375 as if it had traveled straight through solid rock. 43 00:02:25,583 --> 00:02:28,750 And Erik also noticed that in both cases, 44 00:02:28,917 --> 00:02:32,000 these UAPs were headed right toward the triangle 45 00:02:32,167 --> 00:02:34,167 where we've documented more phenomena 46 00:02:34,375 --> 00:02:36,500 than anywhere else on Skinwalker Ranch. 47 00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:39,417 So we'd really love to figure out the connection 48 00:02:39,583 --> 00:02:41,792 between these mesa entry and exit points 49 00:02:41,958 --> 00:02:43,500 and the triangle. 50 00:02:44,542 --> 00:02:46,250 I think it's worthwhile to take a look at that video again 51 00:02:46,375 --> 00:02:48,333 -from last year. -TRAVIS: I agree. 52 00:02:48,458 --> 00:02:50,250 ERIK: I'm gonna take us forward 53 00:02:50,417 --> 00:02:52,333 to the portion of the video where we start to see the light. 54 00:02:53,792 --> 00:02:57,000 So right there. 55 00:02:57,125 --> 00:02:58,792 KALEB: See, this is where it went in. 56 00:03:00,875 --> 00:03:03,042 That's right above the east canyon, 57 00:03:03,208 --> 00:03:04,917 close to the petroglyph. 58 00:03:05,083 --> 00:03:07,208 I-I think I agree with you, Kaleb. 59 00:03:09,542 --> 00:03:11,750 I mean, it puts it right there in that spot. 60 00:03:12,917 --> 00:03:13,917 That's a really interesting area. 61 00:03:14,083 --> 00:03:15,667 Yep. 62 00:03:17,458 --> 00:03:19,667 THOMAS: There's a long history of these stories 63 00:03:19,792 --> 00:03:23,625 denoting some type of portal here on Skinwalker Ranch. 64 00:03:24,708 --> 00:03:26,583 Even some suggesting that the petroglyph 65 00:03:26,750 --> 00:03:29,667 from the east canyon's area is related to a portal. 66 00:03:30,708 --> 00:03:33,500 So, based on the evidence that we have, 67 00:03:33,625 --> 00:03:35,667 I think we have to leave open the possibility 68 00:03:35,875 --> 00:03:38,208 that some of these tales that we've heard about this area 69 00:03:38,375 --> 00:03:40,583 and portals could be true. 70 00:03:40,708 --> 00:03:43,583 At this point, it's way more than a coincidence. 71 00:03:45,042 --> 00:03:47,000 Okay. We'll continue. 72 00:03:47,167 --> 00:03:49,625 So, uh, the next frame here is-- 73 00:03:49,792 --> 00:03:51,458 -TRAVIS: When it comes out. -ERIK: Right. 74 00:03:53,208 --> 00:03:55,292 TRAVIS: Right there. 75 00:03:56,625 --> 00:03:59,583 Look how close to the triangle it is. 76 00:03:59,708 --> 00:04:01,417 Yes. 77 00:04:03,167 --> 00:04:05,125 TRAVIS: I mean, that is not far at all from the triangle. 78 00:04:05,292 --> 00:04:07,542 KALEB: No. That's right on the road that we use 79 00:04:07,708 --> 00:04:09,167 -every day to come over. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 80 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:10,750 And in this perspective, 81 00:04:10,958 --> 00:04:14,042 it is absolutely moving toward the triangle. 82 00:04:14,208 --> 00:04:15,708 ERIK: Right. 83 00:04:15,917 --> 00:04:17,167 BRYANT: I mean, it really 84 00:04:17,250 --> 00:04:20,333 looks like it is traveling to that spot. 85 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:22,292 -Yeah. -BRYANT: Just like that other UAP. 86 00:04:22,417 --> 00:04:24,583 -Exactly. -THOMAS: Wow. 87 00:04:26,125 --> 00:04:27,667 TRAVIS: I think what we got here 88 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:29,125 is a rough estimate 89 00:04:29,250 --> 00:04:30,500 that it went in somewhere near the petroglyph, 90 00:04:30,667 --> 00:04:32,333 and then came out of the face of the mesa 91 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:34,667 on the triangle side. 92 00:04:34,792 --> 00:04:37,458 So this is actually 93 00:04:37,625 --> 00:04:39,750 a fractional piece of evidence 94 00:04:39,875 --> 00:04:42,667 that suggests the mesa and the triangle 95 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:44,208 are connected somehow. 96 00:04:44,375 --> 00:04:46,167 -Mm-hmm. -TRAVIS: Right? 97 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:49,500 I can't help but think about people in this area 98 00:04:49,583 --> 00:04:52,208 living here for generations, talking about seeing things 99 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:54,000 coming in and out of the mesa, too. 100 00:04:54,208 --> 00:04:56,000 And-and this is that exact area. 101 00:04:57,042 --> 00:05:00,208 THOMAS: So now that we have a general idea of where 102 00:05:00,375 --> 00:05:02,042 the entrance point and where the exit point is, 103 00:05:02,208 --> 00:05:03,917 what's the next step? 104 00:05:04,083 --> 00:05:05,750 I have an idea. 105 00:05:07,042 --> 00:05:09,667 So what if... 106 00:05:09,875 --> 00:05:12,667 we go out in the east field to the mesa 107 00:05:12,875 --> 00:05:14,167 and bombard it 108 00:05:14,375 --> 00:05:16,625 with a signal that we can easily measure. 109 00:05:16,792 --> 00:05:18,875 Maybe we send the 1.6 gigahertz at it. 110 00:05:20,208 --> 00:05:22,167 And then we go out to the mesa 111 00:05:22,375 --> 00:05:25,000 on the triangle side with the receivers 112 00:05:25,208 --> 00:05:28,208 and see if we see that signal 113 00:05:28,375 --> 00:05:29,833 coming out of the face of the mesa 114 00:05:29,958 --> 00:05:32,167 right there by the triangle. 115 00:05:32,333 --> 00:05:33,500 ROYSTON: Yeah. 116 00:05:35,708 --> 00:05:37,458 TRAVIS: To test the Native American legends 117 00:05:37,625 --> 00:05:40,292 about portals on Skinwalker Ranch, 118 00:05:40,417 --> 00:05:42,750 my idea was to use a signal generator 119 00:05:42,917 --> 00:05:46,375 to broadcast a strange 1.6 gigahertz radio signal 120 00:05:46,542 --> 00:05:48,583 that we've recorded during past experiments 121 00:05:48,750 --> 00:05:51,333 into the in point where we saw the UAP 122 00:05:51,542 --> 00:05:53,333 entering the mesa last year, 123 00:05:53,542 --> 00:05:55,625 which is also the same spot 124 00:05:55,792 --> 00:05:57,583 where that petroglyph is located. 125 00:05:58,792 --> 00:06:01,667 And then Erik will have a signal receiver 126 00:06:01,833 --> 00:06:04,625 at the out point where the UAP exited the mesa 127 00:06:04,792 --> 00:06:06,375 and flew towards the triangle. 128 00:06:06,542 --> 00:06:08,250 Now here's the thing. 129 00:06:08,375 --> 00:06:10,667 Due to the long distance between us, 130 00:06:10,833 --> 00:06:12,500 Erik's receiver should not be able 131 00:06:12,625 --> 00:06:14,250 to detect my transmission. 132 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:16,167 So if he does receive it, 133 00:06:16,375 --> 00:06:18,958 that could mean some kind of direct passageway 134 00:06:19,125 --> 00:06:20,542 through the solid rock mesa-- 135 00:06:20,750 --> 00:06:23,500 like a portal-- made it possible. 136 00:06:23,708 --> 00:06:26,167 It's a worthwhile experiment to see what happens. 137 00:06:26,292 --> 00:06:28,583 Okay. Well, it sounds like we've got a lot 138 00:06:28,708 --> 00:06:30,792 to get going to try and figure this out. 139 00:06:30,917 --> 00:06:32,167 Yeah. 140 00:06:32,375 --> 00:06:34,042 -Okay. Great. -Good. 141 00:06:35,083 --> 00:06:38,625 BRYANT: We'll get boots on the ground right now and find the spots. 142 00:06:44,458 --> 00:06:45,417 ERIK: Welcome back. 143 00:06:45,583 --> 00:06:47,500 Thanks. It's great to see you. 144 00:06:47,625 --> 00:06:49,667 It's good to have you out. 145 00:06:49,875 --> 00:06:51,417 ERIK: While the team are preparing for the experiment, 146 00:06:51,583 --> 00:06:53,500 we have Ben Woodruff with us at the ranch. 147 00:06:53,667 --> 00:06:55,833 He's a biologist at the Hutchings Museum Institute. 148 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,500 We have some samples 149 00:06:57,667 --> 00:06:59,167 that we'd love you to take a look at, 150 00:06:59,375 --> 00:07:00,500 as a biologist. 151 00:07:00,667 --> 00:07:02,125 ERIK: We reached out to him 152 00:07:02,208 --> 00:07:04,750 because we observed some really strange things happening 153 00:07:04,917 --> 00:07:07,250 with life and even death on the property. 154 00:07:07,417 --> 00:07:09,667 We had a cow that went down last October. 155 00:07:09,792 --> 00:07:12,667 -BEN: Mm. -Uh, really kind of mysterious. 156 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:14,625 -Mm-hmm. -ERIK: Uh, there were no indications 157 00:07:14,792 --> 00:07:16,667 that there were any, any health problems with that animal. 158 00:07:16,833 --> 00:07:18,375 -And it just went down. -And it just went down, yeah. 159 00:07:18,542 --> 00:07:19,375 -Yeah. -Hmm. 160 00:07:19,542 --> 00:07:21,167 We'll get a chance for you 161 00:07:21,375 --> 00:07:22,750 to really get your eyes on it, put your mind on it and see 162 00:07:22,917 --> 00:07:24,667 what sort of insights you can share with us. 163 00:07:24,792 --> 00:07:26,917 -Sounds great. -KANDUS: Yeah. Meanwhile we've got 164 00:07:27,042 --> 00:07:28,458 a couple of birds we want you to look at that are dead. -BEN: Uh-huh. 165 00:07:28,625 --> 00:07:30,208 KANDUS: Yeah, they're partially decomp 166 00:07:30,375 --> 00:07:31,500 but not heavily. 167 00:07:31,583 --> 00:07:32,792 BEN: Mm. That's a strange thing here. 168 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,250 Why is it that some things on the ranch 169 00:07:34,417 --> 00:07:35,667 die and decompose normally 170 00:07:35,875 --> 00:07:37,667 and some, they just don't decompose? 171 00:07:37,875 --> 00:07:39,167 -Yeah. -KANDUS: Well, let's go check it out. 172 00:07:39,375 --> 00:07:40,917 Yeah, I'd love to take a look. 173 00:07:41,083 --> 00:07:42,708 -All right. -Lead the way. -KANDUS: Yeah. 174 00:07:42,875 --> 00:07:45,667 I say it would be almost 100% fair 175 00:07:45,875 --> 00:07:49,042 to say there's some biological anomaly going on here 176 00:07:49,208 --> 00:07:52,417 that's slowing down the process of normal decomposition. 177 00:07:53,375 --> 00:07:54,875 -BEN: Okay. -Yep. 178 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,167 And with Ben on board, he would be great 179 00:07:57,333 --> 00:07:59,917 to show us what should be the norm 180 00:08:00,042 --> 00:08:01,167 of the timeframe of which 181 00:08:01,292 --> 00:08:02,667 something should decompose versus 182 00:08:02,792 --> 00:08:04,917 something completely off the mark. 183 00:08:06,542 --> 00:08:08,333 The grosbeak's the one that's been dead 184 00:08:08,542 --> 00:08:10,458 for about two, two and half weeks, yeah. 185 00:08:10,625 --> 00:08:12,167 -Okay. -KANDUS: A little more decomposition. 186 00:08:12,333 --> 00:08:13,333 And then this is, 187 00:08:13,542 --> 00:08:16,125 -I think it's a starling. -Yeah. 188 00:08:16,292 --> 00:08:17,500 When I first saw it, it looked like 189 00:08:17,667 --> 00:08:20,000 something had gotten into its, uh, brain. 190 00:08:20,167 --> 00:08:21,125 Hmm. 191 00:08:22,292 --> 00:08:23,583 So, when did you find the starling, 192 00:08:23,750 --> 00:08:26,208 and when did you find the grosbeak? 193 00:08:26,375 --> 00:08:30,125 The starling I found about... 194 00:08:30,292 --> 00:08:32,000 -a week and a half ago. -BEN: Mm-hmm. 195 00:08:32,125 --> 00:08:36,208 The grosbeak was two weeks, two and a half weeks now, 196 00:08:36,375 --> 00:08:37,792 and I would have thought somebody 197 00:08:37,958 --> 00:08:39,083 or something would have dragged it off by now. 198 00:08:39,208 --> 00:08:40,500 Yeah. Yeah. 199 00:08:40,708 --> 00:08:41,708 'Cause there's, there's no waste in... 200 00:08:41,875 --> 00:08:42,833 -no waste in nature. -Right. 201 00:08:42,958 --> 00:08:44,208 BEN: Usually there's always something 202 00:08:44,375 --> 00:08:45,125 that wants to come along and eat it. 203 00:08:46,208 --> 00:08:47,667 Even the sun plays a role. 204 00:08:47,792 --> 00:08:49,375 That's what's really interesting, is-- 205 00:08:49,542 --> 00:08:51,000 the sun starts to break down the follicle 206 00:08:51,125 --> 00:08:52,500 where the feather attaches 207 00:08:52,667 --> 00:08:54,625 and the feathers start to just come out. 208 00:08:55,542 --> 00:08:57,042 And that hasn't happened either. 209 00:08:57,208 --> 00:08:58,500 TOM: How long does that typically take? 210 00:08:58,667 --> 00:08:59,875 BEN: Um, no more than a week. 211 00:09:00,042 --> 00:09:01,458 -Oh, okay. -BEN: Because on the inside, 212 00:09:01,583 --> 00:09:03,958 you should have microbes and flies and maggots 213 00:09:04,125 --> 00:09:05,833 and dermestid beetles breaking down the inside, 214 00:09:06,042 --> 00:09:08,208 and so that separates the skin, and then the feathers 215 00:09:08,333 --> 00:09:09,292 hit the sun, they-- ugh, 216 00:09:09,417 --> 00:09:10,792 they just give up and come apart. 217 00:09:11,625 --> 00:09:13,833 Let's take a look. 218 00:09:15,208 --> 00:09:17,500 On the starling... 219 00:09:17,708 --> 00:09:22,500 there's no evidence of maggots or dermestid beetles at all. 220 00:09:22,625 --> 00:09:24,625 The muscle tissue is squishy. 221 00:09:24,792 --> 00:09:26,708 The keel bone is intact. 222 00:09:27,708 --> 00:09:29,917 So nothing has eaten the inside of this bird. 223 00:09:31,083 --> 00:09:32,458 Which makes no sense. 224 00:09:32,625 --> 00:09:34,000 This should be a mummy or it should be rotted. 225 00:09:34,208 --> 00:09:35,958 And it's not. 226 00:09:36,125 --> 00:09:37,917 But the brain is gone. 227 00:09:38,792 --> 00:09:39,917 That is not normal. 228 00:09:46,542 --> 00:09:48,042 KANDUS: When I first saw it, 229 00:09:48,208 --> 00:09:49,667 it was just lying there with its brain missing. 230 00:09:51,292 --> 00:09:52,292 BEN: That is not normal. 231 00:09:53,375 --> 00:09:54,750 Wow. 232 00:09:54,917 --> 00:09:56,125 TOM: I've never seen an animal 233 00:09:56,292 --> 00:09:58,000 just missing its brain. 234 00:09:58,125 --> 00:09:59,625 Nothing else was wrong with this bird. 235 00:09:59,750 --> 00:10:01,083 You couldn't really see anything. 236 00:10:01,208 --> 00:10:03,000 Everything else seemed to be intact. 237 00:10:03,208 --> 00:10:04,958 These animals, they aren't decomposing 238 00:10:05,083 --> 00:10:07,833 in a natural way on the ranch, and this is something 239 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,958 we've noticed over the years of this investigation. 240 00:10:13,042 --> 00:10:15,792 BEN: The grosbeak, and this one's older you said? 241 00:10:15,958 --> 00:10:17,167 -TOM: Yeah. -KANDUS: Yep. 242 00:10:17,375 --> 00:10:18,958 BEN: This one... 243 00:10:20,208 --> 00:10:23,000 Hmm... so there's a lot of blood around the beak, 244 00:10:23,208 --> 00:10:25,000 but the eyes are intact. 245 00:10:26,542 --> 00:10:28,000 And feeling on it... 246 00:10:28,208 --> 00:10:29,542 I'd-I'd have to look at this under a microscope. 247 00:10:29,708 --> 00:10:31,500 But the keel bone, 248 00:10:31,667 --> 00:10:33,250 right here on a bird, 249 00:10:33,417 --> 00:10:34,417 ends right here at the bottom 250 00:10:34,583 --> 00:10:36,625 of the sternum, and you can feel 251 00:10:36,833 --> 00:10:38,500 -where the viscera, or the guts, are. -Mm-hmm. 252 00:10:38,625 --> 00:10:40,125 -And all of that is still intact... -It's still there? 253 00:10:40,292 --> 00:10:42,417 ...on both of these birds. That's the first thing 254 00:10:42,583 --> 00:10:44,417 to decompose on an animal, usually, 255 00:10:44,625 --> 00:10:45,833 because it's soft tissue. 256 00:10:45,958 --> 00:10:47,333 I mean, you can see it. 257 00:10:47,542 --> 00:10:49,625 I'm pushing on it. It's still squishy. 258 00:10:50,708 --> 00:10:51,750 KANDUS: Wild. 259 00:10:51,875 --> 00:10:53,417 BEN: So, this is interesting 260 00:10:53,625 --> 00:10:54,542 'cause this kind of breaks both of our rules. 261 00:10:54,708 --> 00:10:55,833 Things should decompose. 262 00:10:56,042 --> 00:10:58,000 -Yeah. -BEN: It dries out. 263 00:10:58,208 --> 00:11:00,667 With this heat, there's no way that this can be as it is. 264 00:11:03,125 --> 00:11:04,833 Uh, that's impossible. Rigor mortis sets in. 265 00:11:05,042 --> 00:11:08,167 -Okay. -Tissue dries out, the collagens start to break down, 266 00:11:08,333 --> 00:11:10,375 and it rots and disintegrates. 267 00:11:10,542 --> 00:11:12,292 This is what's scarier to me. 268 00:11:13,375 --> 00:11:15,000 Why do you have an animal that's been dead that long 269 00:11:15,167 --> 00:11:16,958 that's still soft to the touch and still squishy? 270 00:11:17,125 --> 00:11:20,000 KANDUS: Yeah, it is wild. 271 00:11:20,167 --> 00:11:21,833 You should have a cat, a fox, a coyote... 272 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 There's no shortage of scavengers on this property. 273 00:11:24,167 --> 00:11:26,333 -No, so why have they... -BEN: No, no, they're everywhere. 274 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:28,333 That's a really good point, um, 275 00:11:28,542 --> 00:11:30,417 -because that's the other part of the equation. -Yes. 276 00:11:30,625 --> 00:11:32,000 Is why aren't they doing their job? 277 00:11:33,333 --> 00:11:35,125 KANDUS: It seems like something's off if the birds 278 00:11:35,292 --> 00:11:38,000 have just remained in place this whole time. 279 00:11:38,167 --> 00:11:40,917 There's something uncanny and just unsettling about 280 00:11:41,083 --> 00:11:43,708 when Mother Nature doesn't do what you expect. 281 00:11:43,833 --> 00:11:46,167 And that's what's spinning us here, 282 00:11:46,333 --> 00:11:47,500 is that there's just something going on 283 00:11:47,667 --> 00:11:48,917 that doesn't make sense. 284 00:11:50,042 --> 00:11:51,750 ERIK: This is really fascinating. 285 00:11:51,917 --> 00:11:53,500 Well, I'm hoping by taking these back to the lab, 286 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:55,000 we can get some better results 287 00:11:55,125 --> 00:11:56,833 -and hopefully get some answers. -KANDUS: Great. 288 00:11:57,042 --> 00:11:59,292 Well, maybe we should go back and check out the dead cow. 289 00:11:59,417 --> 00:12:00,708 BEN: Sounds good. Yeah, let's go take a look at him. 290 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:04,792 TOM: The dead cow that we're looking at with Ben, 291 00:12:04,958 --> 00:12:07,333 we don't know what caused this cow to die. 292 00:12:07,542 --> 00:12:10,208 Thomas just happened upon it, 293 00:12:10,375 --> 00:12:12,375 but he did note that there was no blood 294 00:12:12,583 --> 00:12:14,833 and that it didn't look like 295 00:12:14,958 --> 00:12:15,833 it had been attacked. 296 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,833 Let's head on over. 297 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Just another strange occurrence here on Skinwalker Ranch. 298 00:12:21,167 --> 00:12:23,750 -Well, there's not much left, is there? -TOM: Mm-mm. 299 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:26,958 Huh. 300 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,042 ERIK: You know, I was expecting to see only dry bone, 301 00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:31,292 but I guess there is a little bit 302 00:12:31,458 --> 00:12:33,750 of that soft tissue left there. 303 00:12:36,125 --> 00:12:38,167 BEN: When was it that this cow died again? 304 00:12:38,292 --> 00:12:39,833 ERIK: You know, it's been about six months ago. 305 00:12:40,042 --> 00:12:40,833 Okay. 306 00:12:41,042 --> 00:12:43,000 But you don't know why it died? 307 00:12:43,208 --> 00:12:44,375 ERIK: No. 308 00:12:45,583 --> 00:12:46,833 BEN: So, you've had 309 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,583 that amount of time of solar radiation 310 00:12:48,792 --> 00:12:50,792 hitting what's left here, 311 00:12:50,958 --> 00:12:52,333 but you still have wet tissue. 312 00:12:52,458 --> 00:12:55,500 I was not expecting this at all. 313 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:57,667 Usually, when an animal dies, 314 00:12:57,833 --> 00:12:59,167 there's stages of decomposition 315 00:12:59,375 --> 00:13:00,833 that should happen, and they don't happen here. 316 00:13:02,667 --> 00:13:04,000 What's really strange about this 317 00:13:04,167 --> 00:13:06,875 is the posture, the entire spine 318 00:13:07,042 --> 00:13:09,333 and all the cervical vertebrae, the head are all intact. 319 00:13:09,458 --> 00:13:10,958 Here's what I want to know: 320 00:13:11,167 --> 00:13:12,792 Why is the stomach over here? 321 00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:16,458 Look how big this was. All of this, 322 00:13:16,542 --> 00:13:18,208 this is... this was all 323 00:13:18,375 --> 00:13:20,750 what was being eaten. That's all grasses 324 00:13:20,958 --> 00:13:22,625 and plants that are mashed down. 325 00:13:22,833 --> 00:13:24,125 Totally separate. 326 00:13:24,250 --> 00:13:27,250 What took that and put it here? 327 00:13:28,583 --> 00:13:29,917 KANDUS: It could've been dragged. 328 00:13:30,042 --> 00:13:32,000 -Look at these tooth marks... -ERIK: Yeah. 329 00:13:32,208 --> 00:13:35,208 ...on these ribs and on that scapula. 330 00:13:35,375 --> 00:13:37,042 It would have to be larger than a wolf 331 00:13:37,208 --> 00:13:41,208 to be dragging an entire bovid carcass even that far. 332 00:13:45,167 --> 00:13:47,542 But the ribs, I mean, these all show the teeth marks. 333 00:13:47,708 --> 00:13:49,500 And this... Look at this one though. 334 00:13:53,083 --> 00:13:54,917 What are you seeing? 335 00:13:55,083 --> 00:13:57,667 BEN: That is a tooth that bit all the way through. 336 00:13:57,833 --> 00:13:59,208 Look on the other side here. 337 00:13:59,333 --> 00:14:01,167 It's shattered out the other side. 338 00:14:01,333 --> 00:14:03,167 See how that other side is shattered out? 339 00:14:03,292 --> 00:14:05,042 -ERIK: Oh, wow, yeah. -KANDUS: Mm-hmm. 340 00:14:05,208 --> 00:14:07,250 -That's a lot of force. -KANDUS: That's a big canine. 341 00:14:10,625 --> 00:14:11,958 I'm just going to take it off. 342 00:14:14,333 --> 00:14:17,000 If you look at how thick this rib is, 343 00:14:17,208 --> 00:14:20,417 the force that it takes to go through that, 344 00:14:20,625 --> 00:14:21,833 I mean, that would break my teeth 345 00:14:21,917 --> 00:14:24,000 if I was trying to do that. 346 00:14:24,125 --> 00:14:25,792 All these other bites that you see, 347 00:14:25,917 --> 00:14:28,042 these, I can see scavengers doing. 348 00:14:28,208 --> 00:14:29,875 But this, the force that it takes to go through that, 349 00:14:30,042 --> 00:14:33,917 well, that is a big powerful canine that's very pointy. 350 00:14:34,083 --> 00:14:36,125 -TOM: So, what kind of animal is that? -I don't know. 351 00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:39,250 This is not a species that I have ever seen in Utah. 352 00:14:43,167 --> 00:14:45,000 I think these samples are really good. 353 00:14:45,167 --> 00:14:46,958 I'm going to take these back to the Hutchings Museum Institute, 354 00:14:47,125 --> 00:14:48,125 we'll take a look over 'em. 355 00:14:48,208 --> 00:14:49,542 -All right. -Fantastic. 356 00:14:51,125 --> 00:14:54,000 ERIK: The bite marks put in the ribs of that cow carcass 357 00:14:54,083 --> 00:14:57,458 resembled those that might've been inflicted by 358 00:14:57,667 --> 00:14:58,958 a large animal. 359 00:14:59,083 --> 00:15:00,917 I'm really interested in what Ben can tell us 360 00:15:01,042 --> 00:15:02,583 after he's had a chance to 361 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:05,458 examine this rib bone, in particular, in his lab. 362 00:15:05,625 --> 00:15:07,583 All right, let's head out. 363 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,833 ERIK: Okay, that goes on the bottom. 364 00:15:28,958 --> 00:15:31,042 This one is gonna go here. 365 00:15:32,292 --> 00:15:34,500 TRAVIS: The next day, we were all set up with 366 00:15:34,708 --> 00:15:37,708 an array of equipment to conduct our new "in and out" experiment 367 00:15:37,875 --> 00:15:39,917 at the mesa between the east field 368 00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:41,208 and the triangle. 369 00:15:45,875 --> 00:15:47,833 What I'm setting up here, Kaleb, 370 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,750 is, uh, one spectrum analyzer. 371 00:15:49,875 --> 00:15:52,000 While Kaleb and I got stationed 372 00:15:52,167 --> 00:15:53,875 near the in point in the east field, 373 00:15:54,083 --> 00:15:56,625 Erik, along with Dragon, 374 00:15:56,750 --> 00:16:00,583 Jim Royston and Sam Deriso were operating from 375 00:16:00,708 --> 00:16:02,417 the out point near the triangle. 376 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:05,875 The plan was that I would use a signal generator 377 00:16:06,083 --> 00:16:09,417 to broadcast the 1.6 gigahertz radio frequency 378 00:16:09,583 --> 00:16:12,333 at the in point to see if Erik could actually 379 00:16:12,542 --> 00:16:14,750 receive it on an antenna that he had aimed 380 00:16:14,917 --> 00:16:16,167 at the out point. 381 00:16:16,333 --> 00:16:19,417 Again, it should not be possible for Erik 382 00:16:19,583 --> 00:16:20,833 to detect the signal 383 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,167 and that distance with our equipment, 384 00:16:23,333 --> 00:16:25,000 especially through solid rock. 385 00:16:25,125 --> 00:16:27,583 So, if we're successful, 386 00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:29,875 that would be our first clue that there is 387 00:16:30,042 --> 00:16:31,500 some kind of passageway 388 00:16:31,667 --> 00:16:34,083 through the mesa where we saw the UAP 389 00:16:34,292 --> 00:16:36,583 travel in and out last year. 390 00:16:37,792 --> 00:16:39,000 ROYSTON: Okay, we're set on power. 391 00:16:39,125 --> 00:16:40,250 ERIK: All right, very nice. 392 00:16:40,417 --> 00:16:42,417 TRAVIS: Meanwhile, Jim Royston 393 00:16:42,542 --> 00:16:45,042 will be flying his infrared lidar drone, 394 00:16:45,208 --> 00:16:47,583 which will also be equipped with a GPS device, 395 00:16:47,750 --> 00:16:51,208 back and forth above the in and out path 396 00:16:51,375 --> 00:16:53,625 to scan for any phenomena that we might not be able to see 397 00:16:53,792 --> 00:16:55,167 with the naked eye. 398 00:16:55,250 --> 00:16:57,000 Yo, we gotta set up the high-speed cameras. 399 00:16:57,167 --> 00:16:59,458 Finally, at both locations 400 00:16:59,667 --> 00:17:01,833 we'll have multiple high-speed cameras rolling 401 00:17:02,042 --> 00:17:04,292 and an array of sensor devices 402 00:17:04,417 --> 00:17:07,292 monitoring for anything strange that might pop up. 403 00:17:08,958 --> 00:17:10,208 -Let's see. -(electronic warbling) 404 00:17:10,417 --> 00:17:12,333 TRAVIS: Oh, what was that? 405 00:17:12,542 --> 00:17:15,167 Where's that coming from? Is that me? 406 00:17:16,542 --> 00:17:17,625 Yeah, I guess that-- Where's that coming from? 407 00:17:17,708 --> 00:17:19,917 Is that mine? 408 00:17:20,125 --> 00:17:21,500 Let's see. 409 00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:26,542 There's something happening right now. 410 00:17:26,708 --> 00:17:28,375 Holy crap. Look at this. 411 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:32,500 You see this right here? Look at that, look. 412 00:17:32,625 --> 00:17:35,083 We've got a 1.6 gigahertz signal right now 413 00:17:35,250 --> 00:17:37,792 that's in-- that's-that's pulsing. 414 00:17:37,958 --> 00:17:40,042 I hadn't even started broadcasting 415 00:17:40,208 --> 00:17:41,958 my 1.6 gigahertz signal yet, 416 00:17:42,125 --> 00:17:44,333 when all of a sudden, I started receiving 417 00:17:44,542 --> 00:17:47,042 a different signal at the same frequency 418 00:17:47,208 --> 00:17:48,333 on my spectrum analyzer. 419 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:49,667 Look at that, 420 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:51,333 it's the one that we got before. 421 00:17:51,542 --> 00:17:54,417 That 1.6 gigahertz communication signal. 422 00:17:54,583 --> 00:17:56,583 And the sporadic pattern of how that signal 423 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:58,042 was being received 424 00:17:58,208 --> 00:18:00,333 was just like one that we detected 425 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:02,542 a couple of years ago at Homestead Two, 426 00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:06,042 which Erik and I thought looked like a communication signal. 427 00:18:06,208 --> 00:18:09,542 So, what or who was sending it? 428 00:18:11,125 --> 00:18:12,625 KALEB: I'm thinking Morse code, 429 00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:13,750 like you're sending... 430 00:18:13,958 --> 00:18:16,125 Well, that's not Morse code. 431 00:18:16,292 --> 00:18:18,042 That's-that's like a very complex signal. 432 00:18:18,208 --> 00:18:20,000 That would be encrypted, even. 433 00:18:20,208 --> 00:18:22,458 I think it's two things talking to each other. 434 00:18:22,667 --> 00:18:25,083 That is crazy. 435 00:18:29,542 --> 00:18:31,167 TRAVIS: I think it's two things talking to each other. 436 00:18:31,333 --> 00:18:33,792 -You hear it? You hear it? -(electronic warbling) 437 00:18:33,875 --> 00:18:36,917 There's one that's just a little bit to the left of 1.6, 438 00:18:37,083 --> 00:18:38,875 and one that's a little to the right. 439 00:18:39,042 --> 00:18:40,625 KALEB: They're gibbering back and forth right here. 440 00:18:40,708 --> 00:18:42,125 TRAVIS: You can see those signals 441 00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:43,542 reflected in the waterfall. 442 00:18:43,708 --> 00:18:45,125 Look at that pattern. 443 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:46,750 KALEB: It's like they're alternating. 444 00:18:46,917 --> 00:18:49,333 Yep, sure is. 445 00:18:49,458 --> 00:18:51,500 Just as I was about to begin broadcasting 446 00:18:51,667 --> 00:18:54,625 my 1.6 gigahertz radio signal at the so-called 447 00:18:54,792 --> 00:18:58,167 in point of the mesa to see if it would travel through it 448 00:18:58,375 --> 00:19:00,625 and over to where Erik was set up at the out point, 449 00:19:00,833 --> 00:19:03,792 my spectrum analyzer picked up a completely different signal. 450 00:19:05,042 --> 00:19:06,333 It looked similar to 451 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:08,083 a possible communications signal that 452 00:19:08,208 --> 00:19:10,167 we recorded in the past over near Homestead Two. 453 00:19:10,333 --> 00:19:12,333 But it was a lot creepier. 454 00:19:13,542 --> 00:19:15,875 Hey, Dragon, this is Kaleb. Do you copy? 455 00:19:16,042 --> 00:19:18,083 Yeah, go ahead, Kaleb. 456 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:21,000 Hey, Travis is picking up something on his 457 00:19:21,208 --> 00:19:23,583 spectrum analyzer here. 458 00:19:23,708 --> 00:19:25,833 What frequency are you picking up? 459 00:19:27,542 --> 00:19:29,667 TRAVIS: Hey, Dragon, it's like two different signals 460 00:19:29,833 --> 00:19:32,167 talking to each other at 1.6 gigahertz. 461 00:19:32,333 --> 00:19:33,708 Have y'all seen anything like that? 462 00:19:33,917 --> 00:19:35,458 BRYANT: Do you see anything like that, Erik? 463 00:19:35,583 --> 00:19:37,500 Let me dive in. 464 00:19:37,625 --> 00:19:40,417 TRAVIS: So, they're centered at 1.6 gigahertz, 465 00:19:40,542 --> 00:19:42,333 and one's just to the right of it 466 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:44,333 and one's just to the left of it. 467 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,750 -No. -BRYANT: Copy that. 468 00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:48,333 I don't think we're seeing anything remotely like that. 469 00:19:48,542 --> 00:19:50,042 TRAVIS: It's really strong, 470 00:19:50,208 --> 00:19:51,583 so I'm surprised you can't see it. 471 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:53,792 That is strange. 472 00:19:53,958 --> 00:19:56,750 The triangle is living up to its reputation right now. 473 00:19:56,917 --> 00:19:58,333 TRAVIS: Copy that. 474 00:19:58,542 --> 00:20:00,708 ERIK: Yeah, I'm getting a little nervous out here. 475 00:20:00,875 --> 00:20:02,583 So, uh, the sooner we start the better. 476 00:20:02,750 --> 00:20:03,875 BRYANT: Okay. 477 00:20:04,042 --> 00:20:06,208 So, we need to get them to do their broadcasting? 478 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:07,667 -Or is he gonna fly first? -ERIK: No. No, we're gonna do a control run. 479 00:20:07,875 --> 00:20:10,208 Let them know they've got a bird coming over head. 480 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:12,500 BRYANT: Hey, Travis we are going to fly 481 00:20:12,625 --> 00:20:14,625 a test mission. We just wanted to let you know 482 00:20:14,750 --> 00:20:16,667 there's gonna be a bird coming over you. 483 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:18,125 Copy that. 484 00:20:18,292 --> 00:20:19,833 Whenever you're ready, fire it up. 485 00:20:20,042 --> 00:20:21,000 -Good to go? -We're good to go. 486 00:20:21,167 --> 00:20:22,333 BRYANT: Three, two, one. 487 00:20:24,875 --> 00:20:27,833 ERIK: We're going to start the experiment with a practice run. 488 00:20:28,042 --> 00:20:30,167 Jim Royston will be flying his lidar drone 489 00:20:30,292 --> 00:20:33,333 between the in and out points of the mesa. 490 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:35,292 The question is whether the lidar, 491 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,250 the GPS or the drone itself 492 00:20:37,417 --> 00:20:39,125 will detect any strange readings 493 00:20:39,292 --> 00:20:40,583 or interruptions along the way. 494 00:20:41,625 --> 00:20:43,583 So, this is all automated? You've set the path? 495 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:45,292 Yes. Yep, so this will have a path, 496 00:20:45,458 --> 00:20:47,042 it's going to stay right at 300 feet. 497 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:48,625 Erik will track this path 498 00:20:48,708 --> 00:20:50,417 and see, really, what's happening, 499 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,500 potentially, at that entrance or exit. 500 00:20:52,583 --> 00:20:54,167 -That's fantastic. -ROYSTON: Yep. 501 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:56,500 Look it. 502 00:20:56,625 --> 00:20:58,917 It's-it's kind of... it's kind of quit. 503 00:21:01,042 --> 00:21:02,375 Where'd it go? 504 00:21:02,542 --> 00:21:03,792 KALEB: Yeah, it's flat right now. 505 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,667 TRAVIS: I mean, nothing. 506 00:21:05,875 --> 00:21:07,250 Huh. 507 00:21:10,708 --> 00:21:13,000 ERIK: So, Jim, how fast is this drone moving? 508 00:21:13,167 --> 00:21:16,667 So, we're gonna do about 12-point... Uh-oh. 509 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:19,375 We're RTK red. 510 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:22,000 So, right now, the drone 511 00:21:22,208 --> 00:21:25,500 and the bay station is having trouble communicating. 512 00:21:25,667 --> 00:21:27,833 That error came right over where we think that orb 513 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,333 exited out of the mesa. 514 00:21:29,500 --> 00:21:31,167 ROYSTON: Yeah. 515 00:21:31,375 --> 00:21:34,125 -We're in that anomalous area. -ERIK: Uh-oh. 516 00:21:34,292 --> 00:21:36,000 ROYSTON: What happened, Erik? 517 00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:37,750 ERIK: There's a gap in the data 518 00:21:37,917 --> 00:21:40,167 right where he called out controller interference. 519 00:21:40,292 --> 00:21:41,500 BRYANT: There's something there. 520 00:21:41,667 --> 00:21:42,958 Yeah, I'm running into interference there, guys. 521 00:21:44,208 --> 00:21:45,417 Wow. 522 00:21:45,542 --> 00:21:46,792 AUTOMATED VOICE: Return to home. 523 00:21:47,792 --> 00:21:50,708 ROYSTON: Guys, we just, we fully lost it. 524 00:21:50,875 --> 00:21:52,208 -What happened? -ROYSTON: It's returning to home. 525 00:21:52,375 --> 00:21:54,625 The aircraft completely disconnected. 526 00:21:56,292 --> 00:21:58,792 ERIK: So, there's something out there messing with GPS. 527 00:21:58,958 --> 00:22:00,958 -Is that correct? -ROYSTON: That's absolutely correct, Erik. 528 00:22:04,458 --> 00:22:05,708 KALEB: It's headed back. 529 00:22:07,875 --> 00:22:10,375 -It's going right over the spire. -Holy crap. 530 00:22:10,542 --> 00:22:11,875 What a... Look at this. 531 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:15,417 Right when you said that, a-a pulse showed up. 532 00:22:15,542 --> 00:22:17,250 KALEB: There it is. 533 00:22:17,417 --> 00:22:18,958 TRAVIS: And it just turned off. 534 00:22:20,208 --> 00:22:21,750 This was really curious. 535 00:22:21,875 --> 00:22:25,167 After not seeing the strange 1.6 gigahertz signal 536 00:22:25,375 --> 00:22:27,500 for several minutes, it showed up again 537 00:22:27,667 --> 00:22:29,000 on my spectrum analyzer 538 00:22:29,167 --> 00:22:30,500 just as the drone 539 00:22:30,708 --> 00:22:32,500 passed directly through the spot 540 00:22:32,667 --> 00:22:34,833 where we identified a 300-foot-tall spire, 541 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,417 or column-shaped anomaly, two years ago 542 00:22:38,583 --> 00:22:40,833 during a previous photogrammetry scan. 543 00:22:40,958 --> 00:22:43,458 And this was right near the petroglyph 544 00:22:43,625 --> 00:22:45,125 in the east field canyon 545 00:22:45,292 --> 00:22:47,875 that supposedly depicts a portal. 546 00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:52,042 ROYSTON: All right, guys, so it's coming home. 547 00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:54,375 I want your eyes on this. 548 00:22:55,542 --> 00:22:57,833 -ROYSTON: Wow. Look at that gap. -BRYANT: Oh, my gosh. 549 00:22:58,042 --> 00:23:00,458 The same spot as the photogrammetry's spire. 550 00:23:00,542 --> 00:23:02,250 That seems more than a coincidence to me. 551 00:23:02,375 --> 00:23:04,208 I agree. 552 00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:05,792 TRAVIS (over walkie): Dragon? 553 00:23:05,958 --> 00:23:07,500 Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 554 00:23:07,708 --> 00:23:11,500 Right when the drone flew through the, uh, spire, 555 00:23:11,625 --> 00:23:14,000 you know, the photogrammetry anomaly. 556 00:23:24,458 --> 00:23:26,292 Well, that correlates with what we saw. 557 00:23:26,458 --> 00:23:29,042 With the real-time data that Erik was taking 558 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:31,083 off of the lidar drone. 559 00:23:35,958 --> 00:23:37,292 I agree. 560 00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:39,042 So, uh, what are we gonna do next? 561 00:23:39,250 --> 00:23:40,583 We-We're ready to start the experiment 562 00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:43,167 with the, uh, broadcast or whatever you guys want to do, 563 00:23:43,333 --> 00:23:44,542 just tell Erik to let us know. 564 00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:47,042 Uh, yeah, let's fire it up. Let's go. 565 00:23:47,208 --> 00:23:49,333 Hey, Travis, 566 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,833 we're gonna go ahead and start things up. 567 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,125 All right, we're running the instruments. We're ready to go. 568 00:23:54,292 --> 00:23:55,917 After receiving that weird 569 00:23:56,083 --> 00:23:58,375 1.6 gigahertz communication signal, 570 00:23:58,542 --> 00:24:01,250 and then Jim getting the drone interference 571 00:24:01,417 --> 00:24:02,750 right at the column-shaped anomaly, 572 00:24:02,917 --> 00:24:05,917 I wanted to start broadcasting my own 573 00:24:06,083 --> 00:24:08,708 1.6 gigahertz signal through the in point 574 00:24:08,875 --> 00:24:11,875 to see if Erik would be able to receive it at the out point. 575 00:24:12,042 --> 00:24:14,458 Again, if the signal goes through, 576 00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:15,833 which shouldn't be possible, 577 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,333 it would be evidence that something 578 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,958 totally out of the ordinary 579 00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:22,708 is allowing the signal to pass through the mesa. 580 00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:24,833 Three, two, one. 581 00:24:29,208 --> 00:24:30,292 BRYANT: All right, Travis, 582 00:24:30,417 --> 00:24:32,542 go ahead and start broadcasting. 583 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,125 I'm at 1.6 gigahertz, 584 00:24:35,292 --> 00:24:37,250 and I'm starting broadcasting 585 00:24:37,417 --> 00:24:39,083 in three, two, 586 00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:41,000 one. 587 00:24:44,042 --> 00:24:45,375 THOMAS: Uh... (chuckles) 588 00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,458 Why did I just see peaks come up? 589 00:24:47,625 --> 00:24:48,750 -KALEB: Wow. -ERIK: Yeah. 590 00:24:48,875 --> 00:24:50,333 Can you tell him to turn it off again? 591 00:24:50,542 --> 00:24:52,667 Hey, Travis, do you mind turning that off? 592 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:55,458 Copy that. We're gonna turn it off 593 00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:58,375 in three, two, one. 594 00:24:58,542 --> 00:25:00,292 It is off. 595 00:25:00,458 --> 00:25:01,667 ERIK: Whoa. 596 00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:03,667 Yeah, so, we are picking up 597 00:25:03,875 --> 00:25:06,000 when he's turning things on and off. 598 00:25:07,292 --> 00:25:08,625 Hey, Travis, 599 00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:10,375 this is really interesting. 600 00:25:10,542 --> 00:25:12,667 We definitely had some signal that 601 00:25:12,875 --> 00:25:14,750 correlated with your countdown. 602 00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:20,000 -Whoa. -We shouldn't be. 603 00:25:27,833 --> 00:25:30,292 TRAVIS: You guys are picking up signal through the mesa. 604 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:32,333 We shouldn't be. 605 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:33,958 Now let's have him turn it on again. 606 00:25:34,125 --> 00:25:36,333 Okay, can you go ahead and turn it back on again? 607 00:25:36,542 --> 00:25:38,042 TRAVIS: It is on. 608 00:25:41,458 --> 00:25:43,042 ERIK: Now, normally, 609 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,458 we should get absolutely nothing through the rock. 610 00:25:45,625 --> 00:25:47,500 Our little RF signal generator 611 00:25:47,667 --> 00:25:49,667 is just not strong enough to be detected 612 00:25:49,833 --> 00:25:51,500 over the distances involved, 613 00:25:51,625 --> 00:25:53,833 especially with a big mesa in the way. 614 00:25:54,042 --> 00:25:56,667 There appears to be something connecting 615 00:25:56,875 --> 00:25:58,333 these two locations 616 00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:00,542 in the east canyon area and 617 00:26:00,708 --> 00:26:02,292 this area that's facing the triangle. 618 00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:03,792 Hey, Travis, we're gonna go ahead 619 00:26:03,958 --> 00:26:05,208 and fly the drone mission... 620 00:26:08,292 --> 00:26:09,333 Copy that. 621 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:11,167 BRYANT: Three, two, one. 622 00:26:13,458 --> 00:26:15,500 TRAVIS: After Erik was able to receive 623 00:26:15,667 --> 00:26:17,833 my 1.6 gigahertz signal through the mesa, 624 00:26:17,958 --> 00:26:19,458 between the in and out points, 625 00:26:19,625 --> 00:26:21,667 it was really important for Jim Royston 626 00:26:21,833 --> 00:26:23,667 to keep conducting lidar scans 627 00:26:23,833 --> 00:26:27,167 along that path to see if he can image anything 628 00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:30,458 on infrared that we couldn't see with the naked eye. 629 00:26:30,625 --> 00:26:32,167 ROYSTON: Okay, we're getting 630 00:26:32,292 --> 00:26:34,375 good signal now, as you can see. 631 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:36,125 ERIK: Oh. 632 00:26:36,292 --> 00:26:37,167 -I just saw a... -Yeah. 633 00:26:37,375 --> 00:26:38,583 I just saw a glitch there. 634 00:26:40,333 --> 00:26:42,250 Yeah, this time on ascent, 635 00:26:42,417 --> 00:26:45,542 it looks like it was headed off towards the south, 636 00:26:45,708 --> 00:26:48,417 even though I know it went just straight up. 637 00:26:48,542 --> 00:26:50,417 TRAVIS: It was really strange 638 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:52,708 when the GPS device on the drone 639 00:26:52,875 --> 00:26:55,250 that Jim Royston deployed collected data 640 00:26:55,458 --> 00:26:58,875 indicating that the drone flew to the south 641 00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:02,250 because they saw it lift straight up off the ground. 642 00:27:02,458 --> 00:27:04,708 So, what was redirecting that data? 643 00:27:04,875 --> 00:27:06,208 And could it have been related 644 00:27:06,375 --> 00:27:08,542 to the communications signal that I detected? 645 00:27:08,708 --> 00:27:11,375 Here we go, controller interference again. 646 00:27:15,375 --> 00:27:17,625 Similar spot, right? 647 00:27:20,375 --> 00:27:22,125 I want your eyes on this. 648 00:27:22,292 --> 00:27:24,833 -Look right there. -ROYSTON: Look at that. 649 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,667 -Wow. Look at that gap. -BRYANT: Oh, my gosh. 650 00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:28,333 ERIK: We-We've run into interference 651 00:27:28,542 --> 00:27:29,792 in that spot before. 652 00:27:29,958 --> 00:27:31,875 There's a gap in the data right where 653 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,625 he called out controller interference. 654 00:27:33,792 --> 00:27:35,042 BRYANT: That's crazy. 655 00:27:36,125 --> 00:27:37,458 ROYSTON: Same exact spot. 656 00:27:37,625 --> 00:27:39,708 There's something there. 657 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:41,125 That is so unexpected. 658 00:27:41,333 --> 00:27:43,500 TRAVIS: And then, when Jim's drone 659 00:27:43,708 --> 00:27:45,583 encountered major interference, 660 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:48,042 right when it flew over the spot where we detected 661 00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:50,292 the column-shaped anomaly two years ago, 662 00:27:50,458 --> 00:27:53,333 we were all on edge about what might happen next 663 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,083 between the in and out points. 664 00:27:55,250 --> 00:27:58,167 Hey, keep an eye out for the drone, Kaleb. 665 00:27:58,292 --> 00:27:59,833 -KALEB: Oh, yep, its coming. -TRAVIS: Oh, yeah, I see it. 666 00:28:00,042 --> 00:28:01,792 KALEB: Yeah, it coming over us right now. 667 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,292 I'll jump on that high-speed camera and watch it. 668 00:28:04,458 --> 00:28:07,042 Yeah, watch it with the high-speed camera. That's good. 669 00:28:09,917 --> 00:28:11,917 KALEB: Its turning around and coming back. 670 00:28:13,458 --> 00:28:16,875 Oh, it just stopped, and it's going the other way now. 671 00:28:17,042 --> 00:28:19,000 I'm surprised by that. 672 00:28:19,125 --> 00:28:21,167 KALEB: Yeah, so I don't know if that's them doing it or... 673 00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,167 -TRAVIS: It's going back and forth. What is going on? -KALEB: Yeah. 674 00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:25,333 -What's it doing? -BRYANT: What is the drone doing? 675 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,083 What's the drone doing? 676 00:28:27,292 --> 00:28:28,792 ROYSTON: It's gonna calibrate right now. 677 00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:30,000 -ERIK: It's all over the place. -ROYSTON: It should be 678 00:28:30,208 --> 00:28:32,375 in a straight line calibration, 679 00:28:32,542 --> 00:28:33,833 -which you've seen many times, Erik. -ERIK: No, it's not... 680 00:28:34,042 --> 00:28:35,500 It looks like it's going in circles. 681 00:28:35,625 --> 00:28:37,083 And to confirm, they are broadcasting 682 00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:39,000 that 1.6 signal 683 00:28:39,167 --> 00:28:41,333 -now, right? Okay. -BRYANT: That is correct. 684 00:28:44,250 --> 00:28:45,792 TRAVIS: Okay, now it's turning south, it looks like to me. 685 00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:46,792 KALEB: Yeah. 686 00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:48,500 Where's it going? 687 00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:50,583 Stand by, I have a warning on the RTK. 688 00:28:50,792 --> 00:28:52,417 What in the hell is... Look at this. 689 00:28:52,542 --> 00:28:53,917 ROYSTON: Oh, here it comes. 690 00:28:54,083 --> 00:28:56,125 Now it should be coming straight. 691 00:28:56,208 --> 00:28:58,583 THOMAS: Yeah, it's moving around erratically, it looks like. 692 00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:00,917 ERIK: Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. 693 00:29:01,042 --> 00:29:02,417 ROYSTON: Are you kidding me? 694 00:29:02,625 --> 00:29:05,250 BRYANT: No, look. Look at his GPS data. 695 00:29:06,292 --> 00:29:08,458 ROYSTON: I'm still getting warnings right now. 696 00:29:08,625 --> 00:29:10,708 Here, I'm getting them right in the same spot again. 697 00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:13,708 And I've-I've got a gap in the data again. 698 00:29:13,875 --> 00:29:16,333 ROYSTON: Unbelievable. 699 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:19,333 When we finally get the drone up in the air, 700 00:29:19,542 --> 00:29:22,500 we're going on this path and, 701 00:29:22,667 --> 00:29:24,250 believe it or not, 702 00:29:24,375 --> 00:29:26,625 almost instantaneously 703 00:29:26,792 --> 00:29:28,958 we start having trouble 704 00:29:29,125 --> 00:29:31,667 with the drone going a little 705 00:29:31,875 --> 00:29:33,167 kind of crazy. 706 00:29:33,292 --> 00:29:35,083 All of a sudden, it really was like 707 00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:37,333 I literally have no control. 708 00:29:37,542 --> 00:29:41,333 I've never seen where I lose control to my drone. 709 00:29:41,542 --> 00:29:42,667 How does that happen? 710 00:29:42,875 --> 00:29:44,875 Now it looks like it's coming back. 711 00:29:45,875 --> 00:29:47,125 ROYSTON: Yeah, I'm green now. 712 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:48,500 I'm back green. 713 00:29:48,708 --> 00:29:51,333 Good GPS signal, everything's good. 714 00:29:51,542 --> 00:29:53,375 ERIK: Yeah, and I'm back up. 715 00:29:53,542 --> 00:29:55,250 ROYSTON: And you guys are seeing it on the screen here with me. 716 00:29:55,417 --> 00:29:57,708 Hey, Travis, do you copy? 717 00:29:57,875 --> 00:30:00,000 Yeah, Dragon, I copy. 718 00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:02,667 Um, if you want to go ahead and stop your broadcast, 719 00:30:02,833 --> 00:30:04,042 you can go ahead and do that. 720 00:30:08,125 --> 00:30:10,167 ROYSTON: We have a drone coming in. 721 00:30:10,292 --> 00:30:11,833 Did you see anything on the spectrum analyzer at all, or...? 722 00:30:12,042 --> 00:30:15,083 Um, nothing, just, nothing's jumping out. 723 00:30:15,250 --> 00:30:17,917 BRYANT: Well, what can we do, Erik? Just start shutting stuff down? 724 00:30:18,083 --> 00:30:20,000 -Yeah, I'm ready to shut down. -Okay. 725 00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:21,875 We got a lot of data to take a look at. 726 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,500 All right, let's do it. 727 00:30:28,708 --> 00:30:29,750 All right, man. 728 00:30:29,875 --> 00:30:32,000 All right, I say we break down. 729 00:30:32,208 --> 00:30:34,542 In the moment, this experiment 730 00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:37,375 definitely indicated that there is some kind of 731 00:30:37,542 --> 00:30:40,333 phenomenal connection between the east field, 732 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,708 or in point, and the out point near the triangle. 733 00:30:43,875 --> 00:30:45,917 So, what could that connection really be? 734 00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:48,042 And, also, why did we detect 735 00:30:48,208 --> 00:30:51,333 a possible communication signal during this experiment? 736 00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,375 So, how is that signal getting through the mesa 737 00:30:54,542 --> 00:30:56,333 and coming out here that you can detect? 738 00:30:56,542 --> 00:31:00,000 It did appear that there were times when you were on, 739 00:31:00,167 --> 00:31:02,125 and we-we saw something persistent enough 740 00:31:02,292 --> 00:31:04,000 that we could all get eyes on. 741 00:31:04,125 --> 00:31:05,875 It's almost like the mesa's acting like a wave guide 742 00:31:06,042 --> 00:31:07,167 or an antenna or something 743 00:31:07,333 --> 00:31:09,083 and just channeling it here to you. 744 00:31:09,208 --> 00:31:11,000 -Yeah. -TRAVIS: Well, I say we wrap up, 745 00:31:11,167 --> 00:31:14,750 I-I guess, and see what all this data shows us. 746 00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:16,917 ERIK: Heck yeah. We'll review it back at the command center. 747 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:18,458 -Okay. -All right. 748 00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:20,917 TRAVIS: Can't wait to find out. 749 00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:29,667 -TRAVIS: Hey, Erik. -ERIK: Hey, guys. Hey. 750 00:31:29,875 --> 00:31:32,750 -What's going on? -You're gonna like this. 751 00:31:32,875 --> 00:31:35,333 So, I'm-I'm looking at, um, all the data 752 00:31:35,542 --> 00:31:37,375 that we collected during that in and out experiment. 753 00:31:37,542 --> 00:31:39,667 TRAVIS: After our experiment yesterday, 754 00:31:39,875 --> 00:31:41,792 where we successfully transmitted 755 00:31:41,958 --> 00:31:44,333 the 1.6 gigahertz signal through the mesa 756 00:31:44,542 --> 00:31:47,625 between the so-called in point in the east field 757 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:49,333 and the out point near the triangle, 758 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:50,958 and we also detected 759 00:31:51,125 --> 00:31:53,208 some kind of strange communication signal, 760 00:31:53,417 --> 00:31:56,333 we couldn't wait to see what else Erik might have found 761 00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,500 once he processed all the other data that we had collected. 762 00:31:59,667 --> 00:32:01,833 ERIK: So, I want to take us 763 00:32:02,042 --> 00:32:04,000 to the high-speed video footage that you guys 764 00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:06,167 got out in the-- in the, um, east field canyon area. 765 00:32:06,292 --> 00:32:07,583 Oh, yeah. Yeah, so we were sitting 766 00:32:07,708 --> 00:32:09,292 right in front of the petroglyph. 767 00:32:10,875 --> 00:32:12,167 ERIK: I created this filter 768 00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:13,375 so that I could bring out some of the detail. 769 00:32:13,542 --> 00:32:14,917 TRAVIS: Okay, 770 00:32:15,042 --> 00:32:16,500 so this is all on the high-speed camera. 771 00:32:16,625 --> 00:32:18,167 -It's looking straight at the triangle. -Yes. 772 00:32:18,333 --> 00:32:20,333 So we've got an event here. 773 00:32:21,917 --> 00:32:22,833 TRAVIS: Oh, wow. 774 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,208 What is that? 775 00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:26,333 Is that the drone? 776 00:32:27,208 --> 00:32:28,750 This is moving a lot faster. 777 00:32:28,917 --> 00:32:29,708 Wow, what is that? 778 00:32:29,875 --> 00:32:31,625 Let's dive in on that. 779 00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:35,375 TRAVIS: Yeah, look at that. 780 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,833 Play it moving. Let's see if there's anything like... 781 00:32:38,917 --> 00:32:40,958 -wings or anything on it. -Right. 782 00:32:42,958 --> 00:32:44,708 TRAVIS: Doesn't look like it, does it? 783 00:32:44,875 --> 00:32:46,292 BRYANT: No. 784 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,500 I don't see any recognizable features. You know, 785 00:32:49,625 --> 00:32:51,708 like, you know, propellers, wings, as you mentioned. 786 00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:54,625 And it's not a water droplet on the lens. 787 00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:58,417 -KALEB: No, it was dry as a bone out there. -Yeah. (chuckles) 788 00:32:58,583 --> 00:33:01,167 Yeah, yeah. It hadn't rained or anything. 789 00:33:01,333 --> 00:33:04,250 Also, that's where all that missing data's at. 790 00:33:04,417 --> 00:33:05,292 ERIK: Right. 791 00:33:05,458 --> 00:33:06,917 TRAVIS: Wow. 792 00:33:07,083 --> 00:33:09,042 This just goes to show that we can't have 793 00:33:09,167 --> 00:33:11,583 enough high-tech equipment and cameras during all 794 00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:13,750 of our experiments here on Skinwalker Ranch. 795 00:33:13,875 --> 00:33:17,833 Right where Jim Royston's drone experienced GPS errors 796 00:33:18,042 --> 00:33:20,250 and something interfered with his controls 797 00:33:20,375 --> 00:33:24,000 between the so-called "in and out" points yesterday, 798 00:33:24,167 --> 00:33:26,750 our high-speed camera recorded a UAP. 799 00:33:27,875 --> 00:33:29,583 So, what was this thing? 800 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:32,375 And was it responsible for those anomalies 801 00:33:32,542 --> 00:33:35,125 or even the 1.6-gigahertz communication signal 802 00:33:35,250 --> 00:33:37,125 we detected that was separate 803 00:33:37,250 --> 00:33:39,750 from the one that I was broadcasting over to Erik? 804 00:33:39,958 --> 00:33:42,000 So, did you guys happen to notice a-anything-- 805 00:33:42,167 --> 00:33:44,375 I don't recall ever seeing anything like that. 806 00:33:44,583 --> 00:33:46,833 ERIK: Okay, well, we've got more of 'em. 807 00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:48,750 -Really? -Yeah, so... 808 00:33:48,917 --> 00:33:51,417 there's a second clip that I want to share with you. 809 00:33:53,208 --> 00:33:54,833 So we've got an event here. 810 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,125 You see the mark here? 811 00:33:56,292 --> 00:33:57,708 TRAVIS: Oh, yeah. 812 00:34:01,792 --> 00:34:03,000 Wow! 813 00:34:03,167 --> 00:34:04,792 What is that thing that flew into the mesa? 814 00:34:04,958 --> 00:34:06,625 ERIK: I have no idea what this is. 815 00:34:07,625 --> 00:34:10,542 All right, so we're in the east field 816 00:34:10,667 --> 00:34:11,917 -by the canyon. -Mm. 817 00:34:12,125 --> 00:34:15,458 Right? We're probably less than 30 meters, 818 00:34:15,625 --> 00:34:19,083 maybe 50 meters from Pete Kelsey's photogrammetry anomaly. 819 00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:21,167 And you can see the petroglyph is 820 00:34:21,292 --> 00:34:22,875 right there in front of Kaleb. 821 00:34:23,042 --> 00:34:24,542 That's the petroglyph right there. Right? 822 00:34:24,708 --> 00:34:26,167 And we're looking back, 823 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,167 southwest toward the triangle. 824 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:29,667 -ERIK: Which would be over-over here. -Right over there. 825 00:34:29,833 --> 00:34:33,667 So, what we actually did catch doesn't belong. 826 00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:36,875 BRYANT: I mean, look at that thing. 827 00:34:37,042 --> 00:34:39,333 TRAVIS: It's-it's unbelievable. 828 00:34:39,542 --> 00:34:41,417 -That's crazy. -This area has become 829 00:34:41,583 --> 00:34:44,500 extremely interesting, especially now that we've seen 830 00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:45,958 what appears to be a UAP 831 00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,833 entering into the mesa near the petroglyph. 832 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,542 I don't know what this was, 833 00:34:50,708 --> 00:34:52,292 but it's not like some of the other things 834 00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:54,125 that we know are in the sky. 835 00:34:54,292 --> 00:34:55,500 This was definitely different. 836 00:34:55,708 --> 00:34:57,458 We need to figure out what that was 837 00:34:57,583 --> 00:35:00,167 and what we need to do about it. 838 00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:02,000 That one's interesting, and we need to do 839 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,917 -more video analysis on it. -ERIK: Yeah. 840 00:35:04,083 --> 00:35:06,333 Wait till you see what else I've got. 841 00:35:08,208 --> 00:35:10,167 So, here, you've repositioned the camera. 842 00:35:10,333 --> 00:35:12,833 KALEB: We wanted more of the sky, so-- in case we-- 843 00:35:13,042 --> 00:35:14,083 there was something else out there 844 00:35:14,208 --> 00:35:15,917 that we couldn't see or something. 845 00:35:16,083 --> 00:35:19,000 So this is the contrast enhancement. 846 00:35:19,167 --> 00:35:20,333 All right. 847 00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:21,958 We have the original footage here 848 00:35:22,125 --> 00:35:23,167 we're gonna take a look at. 849 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:25,917 We've got something going on over here. 850 00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:29,000 -TRAVIS: Yeah, there it is up there. -KALEB: There it is. 851 00:35:29,167 --> 00:35:31,250 ERIK: So let's just watch this thing move. 852 00:35:36,292 --> 00:35:38,208 TRAVIS: And, again, it's daytime. 853 00:35:38,375 --> 00:35:39,833 We're not seeing a satellite, 854 00:35:40,042 --> 00:35:41,708 and it's not a airplane moving that fast. 855 00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:43,708 Now let me show you where it comes into the frame. 856 00:35:43,875 --> 00:35:46,375 I don't remember ever seeing anything in the sky like that. 857 00:35:46,542 --> 00:35:49,083 So, at around the 2:30 mark, 858 00:35:49,208 --> 00:35:51,000 this thing emerges. 859 00:35:51,167 --> 00:35:52,208 You'll see it on the left-hand side. 860 00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:53,792 TRAVIS: I'm looking. 861 00:35:55,708 --> 00:35:56,875 -KALEB: Right there, up on the top. -Yeah, yeah, yeah. 862 00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:58,417 ERIK: Got it? 863 00:35:59,417 --> 00:36:00,750 -TRAVIS: Yeah, look at that. -ERIK: All right, 864 00:36:00,875 --> 00:36:03,500 so I'm gonna dive in on the contrast enhancement. 865 00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:05,417 TRAVIS: All right, so keep in mind it's going 866 00:36:05,583 --> 00:36:07,833 seven and a half times faster. 867 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,708 -ERIK: Now, one of the things that stands out-- -Look, there's something. 868 00:36:09,875 --> 00:36:12,333 -It looks like there's something under it. Moving with it. -Uh-huh. 869 00:36:13,458 --> 00:36:15,917 TRAVIS: And then what's this thing at the bottom coming up? 870 00:36:16,125 --> 00:36:18,000 -ERIK: You see what's happening here? -Yeah, you got three things 871 00:36:18,167 --> 00:36:20,458 -on the camera. Four things! There's one over here. -Here. Here. 872 00:36:20,583 --> 00:36:22,667 ♪ ♪ 873 00:36:29,417 --> 00:36:31,333 ♪ ♪ 874 00:36:31,458 --> 00:36:33,500 TRAVIS: Yeah, you got three things on the camera. 875 00:36:33,667 --> 00:36:34,917 Four things! There's one over here. 876 00:36:38,958 --> 00:36:40,625 It was shocking to all of us 877 00:36:40,750 --> 00:36:43,833 that our high-speed camera recorded multiple UAPs 878 00:36:43,958 --> 00:36:46,250 in the air during our experiment yesterday 879 00:36:46,458 --> 00:36:47,708 at the "in and out" points 880 00:36:47,833 --> 00:36:50,125 between the east field and the triangle. 881 00:36:50,292 --> 00:36:53,500 Is it possible that they came out of the mesa? 882 00:36:53,667 --> 00:36:56,500 And could that be why we detected what we think 883 00:36:56,667 --> 00:36:59,500 might be a communication signal at the "in" point? 884 00:36:59,625 --> 00:37:01,833 ERIK: Yeah, let me freeze this, 885 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,250 and let's dive into each of these. 886 00:37:03,417 --> 00:37:05,625 TRAVIS: Look. Back up just a little bit, Erik. 887 00:37:07,208 --> 00:37:08,750 So there's something here. 888 00:37:09,875 --> 00:37:11,167 There's something here. 889 00:37:11,292 --> 00:37:12,708 And there's something here. 890 00:37:12,917 --> 00:37:13,958 ERIK: Yeah. 891 00:37:14,125 --> 00:37:15,958 And as you let it move forward, 892 00:37:16,125 --> 00:37:17,500 you can see they're moving. 893 00:37:17,625 --> 00:37:19,417 And they're not necessarily moving together. 894 00:37:19,583 --> 00:37:20,583 -ERIK: Right. -But they're moving at about-- 895 00:37:20,708 --> 00:37:22,083 Oh, here's another piece right here. 896 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:23,833 ERIK: Right, so we've got four things 897 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,500 in this one frame, 898 00:37:25,667 --> 00:37:28,000 which is actually, you know, zoomed-in on the... 899 00:37:28,167 --> 00:37:29,917 -on the footage. -Yeah. 900 00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:33,167 -Yeah. -Yeah, let's take a look. One of the things 901 00:37:33,375 --> 00:37:34,750 that really stands out for me is this 902 00:37:34,875 --> 00:37:36,167 very rectangular geometry, 903 00:37:36,375 --> 00:37:37,625 the edge definition. 904 00:37:37,708 --> 00:37:39,000 You know, this thing never takes on a-- 905 00:37:39,208 --> 00:37:40,583 It never changes its appearance. 906 00:37:40,708 --> 00:37:42,167 It always seems to be this rectangular, 907 00:37:42,375 --> 00:37:43,667 dark-on-top, light-on-bottom, 908 00:37:43,875 --> 00:37:46,125 -uh, type of a feature. -And I don't see 909 00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:48,375 anything like wings flapping around at all. 910 00:37:48,542 --> 00:37:50,292 Yeah, I sure don't either. 911 00:37:50,417 --> 00:37:53,250 And it's moving like an aircraft or, uh, 912 00:37:53,417 --> 00:37:55,125 something but much faster. 913 00:37:55,292 --> 00:37:56,333 ERIK: Now look at the change in direction. 914 00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:57,458 TRAVIS: Oh, and it sped up. 915 00:37:57,667 --> 00:37:58,792 ERIK: Look what's happening. 916 00:37:59,958 --> 00:38:01,083 It's speeding way up. 917 00:38:01,542 --> 00:38:03,208 ERIK: And it seems to be diving. 918 00:38:03,375 --> 00:38:04,417 But that's not all it's gonna do. 919 00:38:04,625 --> 00:38:06,292 Watch what happens here. 920 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:09,417 KALEB: Oh, it slows down. 921 00:38:10,708 --> 00:38:12,500 TRAVIS: So here's another point to make-- 922 00:38:12,708 --> 00:38:14,583 both Kaleb and I were watching 923 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:16,458 -that drone intently. -(chuckles): Yeah. 924 00:38:16,583 --> 00:38:19,292 -Mm-hmm. -And he was tracking it with the camera intently. 925 00:38:19,417 --> 00:38:22,292 -Yeah. -And this thing crosses right there by the drone 926 00:38:22,458 --> 00:38:24,333 and we don't see it. 927 00:38:24,542 --> 00:38:25,958 -What is it? -I want to show you 928 00:38:26,167 --> 00:38:27,042 what happens. 929 00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:28,667 I found something in here 930 00:38:28,833 --> 00:38:31,917 at about 8:56. 931 00:38:33,583 --> 00:38:34,333 KALEB: Oh, right there. 932 00:38:34,542 --> 00:38:36,292 ERIK: Right there. 933 00:38:40,750 --> 00:38:42,333 -I want to dive in. -TRAVIS: It's moving really fast, 934 00:38:42,542 --> 00:38:44,292 whatever it is. 'Cause, remember, 935 00:38:44,417 --> 00:38:46,333 that's seven and a half times 936 00:38:46,542 --> 00:38:48,833 slower than it was actually moving. 937 00:38:50,083 --> 00:38:52,542 ERIK: Yeah, and what kind of features do we recognize on this thing? 938 00:38:52,708 --> 00:38:54,583 Do we see anything that would suggest a bird? 939 00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:56,292 I'm watching for, like, wings or something. 940 00:38:56,458 --> 00:38:58,375 I'm not seeing that. 941 00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:00,542 Does some kind of, like, 942 00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:02,417 "S" maneuver right there, it looks like. 943 00:39:02,583 --> 00:39:04,333 ERIK: Uh-huh. And look at where this thing is. 944 00:39:06,542 --> 00:39:08,500 -TRAVIS: That's right over the triangle. -Right. 945 00:39:08,625 --> 00:39:11,625 That thing is basically in the triangle airspace. 946 00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:15,958 TRAVIS: So it came from, you know, the middle of nowhere, 947 00:39:16,125 --> 00:39:18,625 swoops in, and then turns back. 948 00:39:18,833 --> 00:39:22,042 ERIK: Below cloud level and apparently down. 949 00:39:22,208 --> 00:39:23,333 Like it's turning to make 950 00:39:23,458 --> 00:39:25,333 a final approach here, like it's coming in 951 00:39:25,458 --> 00:39:27,250 -for a landing or something. -Yeah. 952 00:39:27,417 --> 00:39:29,792 TRAVIS: Seeing this UAP suddenly appear 953 00:39:29,958 --> 00:39:33,833 and then maneuver directly above the triangle was incredible. 954 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,250 Because last year... 955 00:39:35,458 --> 00:39:37,833 -Look at that. -That's interesting. 956 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:40,750 ...that's right where Jim Royston's lidar drone detected 957 00:39:40,917 --> 00:39:44,667 a perfectly circular ring with a black void in the center 958 00:39:44,833 --> 00:39:47,208 that we've speculated could be related 959 00:39:47,375 --> 00:39:49,417 to a wormhole or portal. 960 00:39:49,583 --> 00:39:53,167 Could this UAP appearing at that location be evidence 961 00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:55,458 that just might confirm our suspicions 962 00:39:55,625 --> 00:39:58,333 and maybe validate all the legends we've heard 963 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,625 about portals on Skinwalker Ranch? 964 00:40:00,833 --> 00:40:05,667 Now we're really finding hard evidence 965 00:40:05,875 --> 00:40:07,333 that there's a absolute phenomena 966 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:08,917 -taking place here. -ERIK: That is 967 00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:11,000 -a critical piece of data. -I-I think we need 968 00:40:11,125 --> 00:40:12,875 to plan our next experiment out there that we can set up 969 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000 -and reproduce all these things. -Yeah. -Fantastic. 970 00:40:15,208 --> 00:40:16,792 -Love it. -KALEB: All right, man. 971 00:40:16,917 --> 00:40:18,833 -Great. -We'll talk to you later, Erik. -Thanks, guys. 972 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,917 TRAVIS: That's great stuff, Erik. 973 00:40:21,083 --> 00:40:22,667 So exciting. 974 00:40:25,375 --> 00:40:28,000 ERIK: We have seen what may be UAPs 975 00:40:28,167 --> 00:40:29,500 or some objects in the sky 976 00:40:29,625 --> 00:40:31,708 moving at fairly high rates of travel. 977 00:40:31,875 --> 00:40:34,542 There are objects that appear to be passing 978 00:40:34,708 --> 00:40:36,333 directly into the mesa. 979 00:40:36,542 --> 00:40:38,208 And as strange as that sounds, 980 00:40:38,375 --> 00:40:41,792 it lines up exactly with things that have been described to us 981 00:40:41,917 --> 00:40:43,417 from the history of this property. 982 00:40:43,583 --> 00:40:44,958 We can't dismiss it. 983 00:40:45,958 --> 00:40:48,000 TRAVIS: For decades, if not centuries, 984 00:40:48,083 --> 00:40:50,000 Skinwalker Ranch has been home to legends 985 00:40:50,208 --> 00:40:53,583 that are hard to understand or even believe. 986 00:40:54,708 --> 00:40:56,625 But we keep documenting phenomena 987 00:40:56,792 --> 00:40:58,500 that just might prove some of these legends 988 00:40:58,708 --> 00:41:01,042 are based on reality. 989 00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:04,667 So, as we continue applying science 990 00:41:04,833 --> 00:41:07,667 to figure out what they are and why they're here, 991 00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:09,625 I wonder how our perception of reality 992 00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:12,083 could be changed forever. 993 00:41:13,083 --> 00:41:15,167 BRANDON: What lies within the mesa? 994 00:41:15,375 --> 00:41:17,458 What is above the triangle? 995 00:41:18,375 --> 00:41:19,625 Those priorities, 996 00:41:19,833 --> 00:41:22,375 those tasks lie ahead of us. 997 00:41:22,542 --> 00:41:25,000 We are proving the reality of the phenomena. 998 00:41:25,167 --> 00:41:26,833 We are on the cusp 999 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,750 of discovering the secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 1000 00:41:30,917 --> 00:41:32,833 (wind whistling)