1 00:00:02,041 --> 00:00:03,226 If we were to come in and dig again, 2 00:00:03,250 --> 00:00:04,792 would we get any response? 3 00:00:04,875 --> 00:00:06,208 Where you dig makes a difference. 4 00:00:08,958 --> 00:00:10,250 It's got a dead battery. 5 00:00:10,375 --> 00:00:12,958 What the actual hell is this? 6 00:00:13,083 --> 00:00:14,851 You got to get those people out of there. - Okay. 7 00:00:14,875 --> 00:00:17,000 There was a spike at 3400. 8 00:00:17,125 --> 00:00:18,958 Everybody out of here, now. 9 00:00:21,375 --> 00:00:24,083 Erik, are you doing something at 1.6? 10 00:00:24,208 --> 00:00:26,167 I'm not broadcasting. 11 00:00:26,292 --> 00:00:27,393 That's a communication signal or something. 12 00:00:27,417 --> 00:00:29,917 This is out of the carriage house. 13 00:00:30,042 --> 00:00:31,125 What the hell is that? 14 00:00:31,250 --> 00:00:32,667 You captured a UAP on camera. 15 00:00:34,708 --> 00:00:38,000 There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:38,125 --> 00:00:40,708 It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:40,833 --> 00:00:45,417 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:45,542 --> 00:00:47,833 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:47,917 --> 00:00:50,292 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:50,375 --> 00:00:55,375 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:57,917 For 20 years, the federal government 22 00:00:58,042 --> 00:01:01,167 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:01:01,333 --> 00:01:05,083 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:05,208 --> 00:01:08,833 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:08,958 --> 00:01:13,250 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:16,333 --> 00:01:19,083 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 27 00:01:26,875 --> 00:01:29,000 How's it going, Chris? 28 00:01:29,083 --> 00:01:30,684 Hey, Kaleb. How's it going? - Good, good. 29 00:01:30,708 --> 00:01:32,018 To help us with our ongoing investigation 30 00:01:32,042 --> 00:01:33,667 of Skinwalker Ranch, 31 00:01:33,750 --> 00:01:36,292 we've been trying to engage as many people as possible 32 00:01:36,375 --> 00:01:38,250 who took part in the previous operations 33 00:01:38,375 --> 00:01:40,167 over the last two decades. 34 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:42,042 What's it like coming back? 35 00:01:42,167 --> 00:01:43,727 It's pretty surreal, actually, you know. 36 00:01:43,792 --> 00:01:46,208 It's kind of like being back home a little bit, you know. 37 00:01:47,667 --> 00:01:50,292 Chris Bartel is a former military officer 38 00:01:50,375 --> 00:01:52,417 who was contracted by Robert Bigelow 39 00:01:52,542 --> 00:01:54,542 and the Defense Intelligence Agency 40 00:01:54,708 --> 00:01:56,143 when they were investigating Skinwalker Ranch 41 00:01:56,167 --> 00:01:57,667 several years ago. 42 00:01:57,792 --> 00:01:59,667 We used to have trouble getting guys like him 43 00:01:59,750 --> 00:02:02,292 to share anything about what they've seen out here. 44 00:02:02,417 --> 00:02:04,833 Well, it's an "it" that's in control. 45 00:02:06,583 --> 00:02:08,684 But after last week's visit by another former Bigelow employee, 46 00:02:08,708 --> 00:02:10,417 Colonel John Alexander, 47 00:02:10,542 --> 00:02:13,208 and the federal government's report last year 48 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:15,167 acknowledging the existence of UAPs, 49 00:02:15,292 --> 00:02:17,792 it's like the floodgates have finally opened up. 50 00:02:18,792 --> 00:02:21,458 I know, a couple years ago, I was worried about, you know, 51 00:02:21,583 --> 00:02:23,423 maybe possibly losing a clearance talking about 52 00:02:23,542 --> 00:02:25,059 some of the experiences I had here on the property. 53 00:02:25,083 --> 00:02:26,792 Losing a clearance as far as? 54 00:02:26,875 --> 00:02:28,559 Like a security clearance? - Right, it was a concern 55 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:29,726 'cause, you know, I'm still active 56 00:02:29,750 --> 00:02:30,833 in the federal department, 57 00:02:30,958 --> 00:02:32,292 I'm still operating and, 58 00:02:32,417 --> 00:02:34,750 now it's more of a mainstream topic, it seems like. 59 00:02:35,708 --> 00:02:37,333 I was a BAASS Security Investigator 60 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:39,208 for Bigelow Aerospace for Skinwalker Ranch 61 00:02:39,375 --> 00:02:42,417 from the years 2010 to 2016. 62 00:02:42,542 --> 00:02:44,708 BAASS stands for Bigelow Aerospace 63 00:02:44,833 --> 00:02:46,167 Advanced Space Studies. 64 00:02:46,333 --> 00:02:50,292 It was the organization to study UFO phenomena. 65 00:02:50,375 --> 00:02:53,625 This is also during the time of the federal contract, AAWSAP. 66 00:02:53,708 --> 00:02:55,958 AAWSAP stands for Advanced Aerospace 67 00:02:56,042 --> 00:02:58,500 Weapon Systems Applications Program. 68 00:02:58,625 --> 00:03:00,333 I was one of the lead members out here. 69 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:03,500 I spent lots of time exploring, documenting data 70 00:03:03,625 --> 00:03:05,434 and also safekeeping and protecting the property. 71 00:03:05,458 --> 00:03:07,667 I have a lot of experiences out here. 72 00:03:07,792 --> 00:03:09,976 You know, I lived and breathed this property for six years. 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,333 I would love to show you guys 74 00:03:11,458 --> 00:03:13,583 some of the things that I went through 75 00:03:13,708 --> 00:03:15,333 and important aspects of the property. 76 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:17,083 Well, I'm eager to do that. 77 00:03:17,208 --> 00:03:19,042 I think we throw you in the UTV right here, 78 00:03:19,208 --> 00:03:21,500 and let's start across, because I-I want to hear 79 00:03:21,667 --> 00:03:23,059 everything that happened. - That sounds, that sounds good. 80 00:03:23,083 --> 00:03:24,250 Okay. - I appreciate it. 81 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:27,167 We have this 20-year gap 82 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:29,167 where Mr. Bigelow owned the ranch 83 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:31,458 for which we know very little. 84 00:03:31,542 --> 00:03:33,667 I think somebody that spent six years here, 85 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:35,667 and spent a lot of time during that six years, 86 00:03:35,792 --> 00:03:39,583 is critical and could be crucial to helping us solve 87 00:03:39,708 --> 00:03:41,476 some of the mysteries that are here on the ranch. 88 00:03:41,500 --> 00:03:43,083 Yeah. Right here. 89 00:03:43,208 --> 00:03:44,750 This is the spot. 90 00:03:44,875 --> 00:03:46,167 Let's park here, then. 91 00:03:50,542 --> 00:03:54,083 I find it interesting that you, stop us here. 92 00:03:54,208 --> 00:03:56,958 This is by a place we call the triangle. 93 00:03:58,250 --> 00:03:59,934 Been a place we've done a lot of experiments 94 00:03:59,958 --> 00:04:02,250 and research and had a lot of interesting data. 95 00:04:02,375 --> 00:04:04,833 So, I'm curious, tell me about what you experienced here. 96 00:04:04,958 --> 00:04:09,250 So, October of 2010, we had a pretty good routine 97 00:04:09,375 --> 00:04:10,833 where one guy would do a normal run 98 00:04:10,958 --> 00:04:13,667 through the property to get kind of eyes on what's going on. 99 00:04:13,792 --> 00:04:16,167 That day, the other officer came back, 100 00:04:16,250 --> 00:04:18,167 and he was like, "Hey, I found some big prints 101 00:04:18,292 --> 00:04:19,332 on top of the mesa." 102 00:04:20,667 --> 00:04:22,667 And I'm like, "Okay, let's go take a look at them." 103 00:04:22,707 --> 00:04:24,667 We get to the top of here, and we find these gi-- 104 00:04:24,792 --> 00:04:27,375 these pretty good-sized canine prints. 105 00:04:28,582 --> 00:04:30,707 I have photos of those, if you'd like to see them. 106 00:04:30,832 --> 00:04:32,500 Yeah, I'd love to see those. - Sure. 107 00:04:32,625 --> 00:04:34,183 Here. Take a look at this. You can see here... 108 00:04:34,207 --> 00:04:35,887 Look at those, look how deep those go down. 109 00:04:38,292 --> 00:04:40,332 Look at that. - My gosh. 110 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:42,917 So, that's about three feet between step? 111 00:04:45,207 --> 00:04:47,582 And then, we had a couple labs with us. 112 00:04:47,707 --> 00:04:50,832 You can see here in the top corner, the labs' prints. 113 00:04:50,957 --> 00:04:53,167 That thing's like four times the size of those. 114 00:04:53,250 --> 00:04:54,332 That's a very big canine. 115 00:04:55,375 --> 00:04:56,875 Seeing this picture, 116 00:04:57,042 --> 00:05:00,167 you could tell by both the size and the stride 117 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:02,500 that we're talking about a very large animal. 118 00:05:02,625 --> 00:05:04,917 It makes me think about the legend of the skinwalker. 119 00:05:06,542 --> 00:05:08,208 The legend of the skinwalker is 120 00:05:08,375 --> 00:05:10,375 that it's an entity that can shape-shift. 121 00:05:10,542 --> 00:05:14,833 Often, the lore is having it go from a wolf to a man. 122 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,167 For whatever reason, this piece of ground 123 00:05:18,292 --> 00:05:21,375 was cursed with the skinwalker. 124 00:05:22,457 --> 00:05:24,292 I was here, the other officer was right there, 125 00:05:24,417 --> 00:05:26,000 and the dogs were kind of in between us. 126 00:05:26,167 --> 00:05:29,750 And the other officer says, "Chris, stop. I hear something." 127 00:05:29,875 --> 00:05:32,582 And I'll-I'll never forget this, because it has been replaying 128 00:05:32,707 --> 00:05:35,000 in my mind forever since this day. 129 00:05:35,125 --> 00:05:37,125 Out of that ditch, 130 00:05:37,250 --> 00:05:41,417 I hear a God-awful, guttural, howl growl. 131 00:05:43,167 --> 00:05:45,457 And I was, like, frozen for a second. 132 00:05:45,542 --> 00:05:48,207 So was the other officer and the dogs were all alerting. 133 00:05:48,332 --> 00:05:51,332 The animal jumps out of the ravine 134 00:05:51,457 --> 00:05:54,625 over the berm and travels west. 135 00:05:54,707 --> 00:05:57,500 This thing was probably the size of a donkey, black. 136 00:05:57,625 --> 00:06:00,000 Instinctively, the dogs chase after it. 137 00:06:00,167 --> 00:06:01,167 I run after the dogs. 138 00:06:01,292 --> 00:06:03,083 We get around that corner there. 139 00:06:03,208 --> 00:06:04,750 It's-it's gone. 140 00:06:04,875 --> 00:06:05,875 Wow. 141 00:06:07,875 --> 00:06:09,518 I can understand why Chris was hesitant to share 142 00:06:09,542 --> 00:06:11,417 some of these stories. 143 00:06:11,542 --> 00:06:13,333 If I had heard this on day one of the ranch, 144 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:14,958 I would have dismissed Chris. 145 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:18,750 But after spending five years here on the ranch... 146 00:06:18,875 --> 00:06:21,082 I-I find myself believing his story. 147 00:06:21,207 --> 00:06:23,647 Did you come back and look for tracks the next day, I imagine? 148 00:06:23,707 --> 00:06:25,042 The next day we came back. 149 00:06:25,207 --> 00:06:26,332 We followed the ditch. 150 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:28,000 We really didn't find any tracks. 151 00:06:28,082 --> 00:06:30,332 But there was an area I found on this mesa slope, 152 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:33,167 and it led to this open cavity. 153 00:06:33,250 --> 00:06:34,457 It looked like a cave. 154 00:06:36,207 --> 00:06:37,417 So, I jumped down into it. 155 00:06:37,542 --> 00:06:38,957 I look around, and it's a, 156 00:06:39,082 --> 00:06:41,125 a decent-size open cavity, 157 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:42,917 but inside the cavern, I pulled out 158 00:06:43,042 --> 00:06:45,375 two old canine traps. 159 00:06:46,957 --> 00:06:48,707 So, anytime somebody says the word "cave" 160 00:06:48,875 --> 00:06:50,125 or "cavern" here, 161 00:06:50,250 --> 00:06:51,518 it catches our attention. - Right. 162 00:06:51,542 --> 00:06:53,082 You think it's still there? - Yeah. 163 00:06:53,207 --> 00:06:55,268 You mind taking us there to it? - Absolutely, let's go. 164 00:06:55,292 --> 00:06:56,707 All right. 165 00:07:02,625 --> 00:07:04,625 I find it interesting that this DJ said 166 00:07:04,750 --> 00:07:07,333 they were picking up some kind of weird signal. 167 00:07:07,458 --> 00:07:08,851 Yeah, that's the part that got my attention. 168 00:07:08,875 --> 00:07:10,684 You know, normally when you think about a radio station, 169 00:07:10,708 --> 00:07:14,458 you think of them broadcasting but not receiving anything, 170 00:07:14,542 --> 00:07:16,082 so I'm surprised that they're vigilant 171 00:07:16,207 --> 00:07:17,582 to any incoming signals. 172 00:07:18,582 --> 00:07:20,542 Well, I can't wait to hear what they say. 173 00:07:22,832 --> 00:07:25,667 Ranch caretakers Tom Lewis and Kandus Linde 174 00:07:25,792 --> 00:07:28,332 let me and Erik know that a local radio station nearby 175 00:07:28,417 --> 00:07:29,957 reached out to them about 176 00:07:30,042 --> 00:07:31,792 a really strange frequency interference 177 00:07:31,875 --> 00:07:34,957 that's been jamming their system and it sounds 178 00:07:35,042 --> 00:07:38,207 just like what we experienced last week on Skinwalker Ranch. 179 00:07:38,332 --> 00:07:40,250 Hey! hey, hey, hey, hey, it's here. 180 00:07:40,375 --> 00:07:43,375 We've got that 1.6 thing. 181 00:07:43,542 --> 00:07:45,582 During a lot of the experiments we've done 182 00:07:45,707 --> 00:07:48,957 to stimulate different phenomena, including UAPs, 183 00:07:49,082 --> 00:07:52,457 Erik has detected a huge radio frequency energy spike 184 00:07:52,542 --> 00:07:55,500 of 1.6 gigahertz on the spectrum analyzer. 185 00:07:55,667 --> 00:07:58,417 And last week, we detected it after launching a rocket 186 00:07:58,542 --> 00:07:59,667 out by Homestead Two. 187 00:07:59,792 --> 00:08:02,792 1.60000. 188 00:08:02,875 --> 00:08:06,792 But this time a mysterious sound came through with it. 189 00:08:06,917 --> 00:08:09,167 You want to try and listen to it? Yeah. 190 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:18,082 I swear that sounds like a communication signal. 191 00:08:20,332 --> 00:08:22,082 So, here we are. 192 00:08:22,207 --> 00:08:24,375 So, when we heard that a potentially similar signal 193 00:08:24,542 --> 00:08:25,808 was occurring at a radio station 194 00:08:25,832 --> 00:08:28,000 ten miles away in Roosevelt, 195 00:08:28,125 --> 00:08:30,375 we definitely wanted to meet with the station manager 196 00:08:30,542 --> 00:08:33,167 and DJ, Jenn Rook. 197 00:08:33,332 --> 00:08:35,250 Hi! - Hey, I'm Travis. 198 00:08:35,375 --> 00:08:36,518 Hi, I'm Jenn. - Nice to meet you, Jenn. 199 00:08:36,542 --> 00:08:38,292 You, too. 200 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:40,250 We wanted to see if it could be related 201 00:08:40,375 --> 00:08:41,735 to the strange communication signal 202 00:08:41,792 --> 00:08:43,542 we've detected on Skinwalker Ranch. 203 00:08:43,667 --> 00:08:46,750 So, we hear you've been having some weird signals 204 00:08:46,875 --> 00:08:48,351 or interference with your radio station. 205 00:08:48,375 --> 00:08:50,125 Some interference for sure 206 00:08:50,208 --> 00:08:52,750 and just some other weird anomalies that happen. 207 00:08:54,833 --> 00:08:57,042 You're talking about interferences, is it keeping you 208 00:08:57,167 --> 00:08:59,333 from being able to operate at certain times, or...? 209 00:08:59,458 --> 00:09:02,125 I livestream online, and it keeps it from operating. Really? 210 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:04,667 Like, the online stream was just absolute fuzz. 211 00:09:04,792 --> 00:09:07,500 It was just cutting out everything. 212 00:09:07,667 --> 00:09:09,542 It was just such an interruption. 213 00:09:09,708 --> 00:09:12,833 You couldn't hear the radio station online. - Wow. 214 00:09:12,958 --> 00:09:16,500 So, if I was listening to your station, 215 00:09:16,583 --> 00:09:20,500 and I hear, some kind of a problem, 216 00:09:20,583 --> 00:09:22,208 I would expect to hear what? 217 00:09:22,375 --> 00:09:24,125 Static? Strange tones? 218 00:09:24,250 --> 00:09:26,250 Signals that don't belong in your signal stream? 219 00:09:26,375 --> 00:09:27,875 What would I hear? 220 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,000 I mean, you could probably hear any of that. 221 00:09:31,083 --> 00:09:33,792 Wow. - You know, we've heard some weird stuff, 222 00:09:33,875 --> 00:09:36,542 and we see weird signals at the ranch 223 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:38,917 that we can't figure out where they're coming from, 224 00:09:39,042 --> 00:09:41,125 and we've found this one that seems to be repeating 225 00:09:41,250 --> 00:09:44,083 around here all the time, near 1.6 gigahertz. 226 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:46,500 Travis, can you bring that up and play it? 227 00:09:46,625 --> 00:09:48,833 Yeah. I believe it's this one right here. 228 00:09:54,542 --> 00:09:57,833 You know, I've heard something similar to this 229 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,167 along with all of the fuzz that I get 230 00:10:00,292 --> 00:10:01,412 that I know is interference. 231 00:10:02,833 --> 00:10:04,167 Really? - Yeah. 232 00:10:04,292 --> 00:10:05,667 There's something not right, 233 00:10:05,792 --> 00:10:08,417 and I've had people look at it and try to fix it, 234 00:10:08,542 --> 00:10:12,125 but it's a signal that is not supposed to be there. - Wow. 235 00:10:12,208 --> 00:10:14,667 After we verified that Jenn believed that 236 00:10:14,750 --> 00:10:17,583 the 1.6 gigahertz communication signal from the ranch 237 00:10:17,708 --> 00:10:19,833 was very similar to the one 238 00:10:19,958 --> 00:10:21,875 that's been coming through the radio station, 239 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,792 it made both Erik and I think that 240 00:10:23,875 --> 00:10:26,625 maybe we could use it to try to communicate back 241 00:10:26,708 --> 00:10:28,875 to whoever sent it in the first place. 242 00:10:29,042 --> 00:10:32,958 We couldn't, by any chance, talk you into maybe broadcasting 243 00:10:33,083 --> 00:10:35,000 this strange signal that we've picked up? 244 00:10:35,167 --> 00:10:36,518 ...- And see if we'll detect something 245 00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:38,417 with our instruments when you do. 246 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:41,250 Are we poking a bear here, or...? 247 00:10:41,375 --> 00:10:43,500 Well-well, the expression that I use is 248 00:10:43,583 --> 00:10:46,167 one my grandmother taught me and it's "poking the hornets' nest." 249 00:10:46,292 --> 00:10:47,684 And-and so... - Okay, let's do it. Let's poke that hornets' nest. 250 00:10:47,708 --> 00:10:48,893 Let's see if any hornets fly out, right? 251 00:10:48,917 --> 00:10:50,292 All right, let's do it. 252 00:10:55,917 --> 00:10:57,757 So, we have some equipment outside, in the car, 253 00:10:58,583 --> 00:10:59,809 we'll run out, give us we'll get it set up, 254 00:10:59,833 --> 00:11:01,143 and running. - Okay. Yeah, let's do it. 255 00:11:01,167 --> 00:11:02,792 So we'll got set up the equipment. 256 00:11:02,875 --> 00:11:04,184 I'll be right back and tell you when we're ready. 257 00:11:04,208 --> 00:11:05,000 All right, sounds good. - All right. Thank you. 258 00:11:05,083 --> 00:11:06,500 After Jenn Rook, 259 00:11:06,625 --> 00:11:08,917 the station manager at Jack FM, 260 00:11:09,042 --> 00:11:12,125 told us that the 1.6 gigahertz communication signal 261 00:11:12,208 --> 00:11:13,792 that we've detected on Skinwalker Ranch 262 00:11:13,875 --> 00:11:16,375 sounded similar to what's been interfering 263 00:11:16,542 --> 00:11:18,708 with her station's broadcasts, 264 00:11:18,833 --> 00:11:21,083 we convinced her to let us run an experiment. 265 00:11:21,208 --> 00:11:23,083 I'm going to go ahead and start the Jeep 266 00:11:23,208 --> 00:11:25,458 and tune in to the radio station. - Perfect. 267 00:11:25,583 --> 00:11:28,833 The idea was to play the 1.6 gigahertz signal 268 00:11:28,958 --> 00:11:30,500 over her airwaves... 269 00:11:30,625 --> 00:11:33,083 All right. I got the radio station up. 270 00:11:33,208 --> 00:11:35,083 ...while Erik and I set up an antenna 271 00:11:35,208 --> 00:11:37,708 with our spectrum analyzer in the parking lot 272 00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:40,042 so we could monitor the broadcast 273 00:11:40,167 --> 00:11:42,792 for anything strange that might happen in response. 274 00:11:42,875 --> 00:11:44,958 All right, I think that's good right there. 275 00:11:45,083 --> 00:11:46,875 All right. 276 00:11:47,042 --> 00:11:49,833 I'm interested in watching the RF spectrum 277 00:11:49,958 --> 00:11:51,708 through our spectrum analyzer. 278 00:11:51,833 --> 00:11:52,893 I got really high hopes that we're going to see 279 00:11:52,917 --> 00:11:54,208 something unusual. 280 00:11:54,333 --> 00:11:56,042 So, I'm-a go in and tell her we're ready. 281 00:11:56,167 --> 00:11:57,708 All right. 282 00:11:57,833 --> 00:11:59,792 Hey, Jenn. Yeah, we've got our equipment set up 283 00:11:59,875 --> 00:12:01,708 in the parking lot, so whenever you're okay 284 00:12:01,875 --> 00:12:03,458 to broadcast the signal, we're watching. 285 00:12:03,583 --> 00:12:06,333 All right. Ready. - All right. Cool. Thanks. 286 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:12,167 All right, Erik. She's about to broadcast it. 287 00:12:12,292 --> 00:12:14,292 All right. - Hey there, everybody. 288 00:12:14,375 --> 00:12:16,335 Just a little interruption in the music right now. 289 00:12:16,417 --> 00:12:18,708 We're doing a few tests here at the studios, 290 00:12:18,875 --> 00:12:19,875 and, you know what? 291 00:12:20,042 --> 00:12:22,042 I'm going to play something here. 292 00:12:22,167 --> 00:12:24,542 And if you've heard this, you can always give me a call 293 00:12:24,708 --> 00:12:25,958 here at the studios 294 00:12:26,042 --> 00:12:27,542 and let me know. 295 00:12:27,667 --> 00:12:29,250 This is just a test, everybody. 296 00:12:44,292 --> 00:12:46,333 There it is. 297 00:12:46,458 --> 00:12:50,292 Wow. It really changed the waveform big time. 298 00:12:50,375 --> 00:12:53,083 Look at how the waveforms are reacting to it there. 299 00:12:53,208 --> 00:12:55,375 You see that? Watch right here. 300 00:12:57,667 --> 00:13:01,292 When a FM radio station broadcasts music or anything 301 00:13:01,375 --> 00:13:04,042 over the airwaves, the frequency always has 302 00:13:04,167 --> 00:13:07,000 a constant and uniform pattern. 303 00:13:07,083 --> 00:13:08,833 You shouldn't see any deviation in it 304 00:13:08,958 --> 00:13:10,875 no matter what the sound is. 305 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,625 But as soon as Jenn started broadcasting the sound 306 00:13:13,708 --> 00:13:15,833 from our 1.6 gigahertz signal, 307 00:13:15,958 --> 00:13:18,125 the station's frequency began showing strange, 308 00:13:18,208 --> 00:13:19,583 sporadic spikes. 309 00:13:19,708 --> 00:13:21,417 Now, that shouldn't be possible. 310 00:13:21,542 --> 00:13:23,375 So, it really made us wonder 311 00:13:23,542 --> 00:13:25,500 if our experiment might stimulate 312 00:13:25,583 --> 00:13:28,125 something strange out here in the Basin community. 313 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:30,250 And, if so, would it be anything 314 00:13:30,375 --> 00:13:32,917 like the phenomena we've seen on Skinwalker Ranch? 315 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:37,542 This has just been a test, everybody. 316 00:13:37,667 --> 00:13:39,684 Thanks for listening. I'll put you back to the music now. 317 00:13:39,708 --> 00:13:41,917 I'm Jenn Rook. 318 00:13:43,167 --> 00:13:44,726 All right, well, I say we go tell her what we saw. 319 00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:46,042 Yeah. Let's go follow up. 320 00:13:47,208 --> 00:13:49,309 I wonder what the locals thought that was listening to 321 00:13:49,333 --> 00:13:50,667 the radio station. - My gosh. 322 00:13:51,875 --> 00:13:53,375 Wow. 323 00:13:53,542 --> 00:13:55,833 That was pretty cool. Thank you for that. 324 00:13:55,917 --> 00:13:58,750 Yeah, we, were watching the spectrum 325 00:13:58,875 --> 00:14:02,667 all around your signal and when you were broadcasting, 326 00:14:02,792 --> 00:14:06,458 the, the waveform actually changed. 327 00:14:06,583 --> 00:14:09,000 Normally it has a certain shape, 328 00:14:09,167 --> 00:14:12,708 and when you started that signal, 329 00:14:12,833 --> 00:14:15,000 it changed to something completely different. 330 00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:17,000 It was really odd. 331 00:14:17,125 --> 00:14:19,792 Now, the interesting question is... 332 00:14:19,917 --> 00:14:22,333 if there's any kind of response... - Yeah. 333 00:14:22,417 --> 00:14:25,583 ...what form will it take and how will we find out about it? 334 00:14:25,708 --> 00:14:26,851 Yeah, if anybody calls you and says, 335 00:14:26,875 --> 00:14:28,250 "Hey, what was that weird thing?" 336 00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:29,809 Or "I had a headache when that was going," 337 00:14:29,833 --> 00:14:31,500 you know, or whatever. - Yeah. 338 00:14:31,583 --> 00:14:32,976 Okay. Especially if someone happens to see 339 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,208 a UFO or UAP, or something strange 340 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:38,125 in the sky, anything at all, please let us know. 341 00:14:38,208 --> 00:14:41,333 Okay. - You may be able to provide some information 342 00:14:41,458 --> 00:14:43,292 that's very helpful to our research going on, 343 00:14:43,375 --> 00:14:45,143 so thank you for accommodating us today. - All right. 344 00:14:45,167 --> 00:14:47,167 Yeah, anytime. - It was great to meet you. 345 00:14:47,292 --> 00:14:48,852 You, too. - Yeah. Thank you very much. 346 00:14:48,958 --> 00:14:50,500 Thanks, guys. 347 00:14:53,375 --> 00:14:56,958 So, it's gonna be in this little area right here, 348 00:14:57,083 --> 00:14:59,458 where I was walking down from the top of the mesa 349 00:14:59,583 --> 00:15:01,875 and I found a cave. 350 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,375 Over the years that I have been here on the ranch, 351 00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:08,125 there's been rampant rumors about underground bases, 352 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:10,917 of tunnels, all kinds of underground things 353 00:15:11,042 --> 00:15:12,333 here at the ranch. 354 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:15,042 If there are some, we definitely want to find them. 355 00:15:15,167 --> 00:15:17,833 I just happened to notice it from on top. 356 00:15:17,958 --> 00:15:20,125 Then I-I suggest maybe we just all climb up there 357 00:15:20,208 --> 00:15:21,608 and see if we can find it. - Yeah. 358 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,167 Hey, I found what looks like to be a cavern. 359 00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:40,667 Let me take a look. 360 00:15:43,833 --> 00:15:46,083 Yeah. 361 00:15:46,208 --> 00:15:49,000 I'm pretty sure this is it, or it-it looks like it. 362 00:15:50,375 --> 00:15:52,958 You can tell that at one time it was a lot larger. 363 00:15:53,042 --> 00:15:55,333 And it's collapsed down in on itself. 364 00:15:55,417 --> 00:15:56,875 You can tell that this whole area 365 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,375 looks like a sunken-in area. 366 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:00,583 Like it caved in. Yeah. - Yeah. 367 00:16:00,708 --> 00:16:03,208 It's so strange. 368 00:16:03,375 --> 00:16:07,125 If this is the opening to that cave that Chris found, 369 00:16:07,208 --> 00:16:09,875 did it collapse? Is it still there? 370 00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:13,000 Does it continue back, and it's just covered by rocks? 371 00:16:13,125 --> 00:16:15,000 Definitely a lot of unanswered questions. 372 00:16:15,125 --> 00:16:16,845 There's been one consistent thing I've heard 373 00:16:16,875 --> 00:16:19,018 since I've been here on the ranch for the last five years 374 00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:21,542 and that's there is a system of tunnels 375 00:16:21,708 --> 00:16:22,958 that goes throughout the ranch. 376 00:16:23,042 --> 00:16:26,208 We've got reports of UFO flying into the mesa, 377 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:27,684 that we have people that think that 378 00:16:27,708 --> 00:16:29,167 there's underground bases here. 379 00:16:29,250 --> 00:16:31,000 We've yet to find it. Who knows? 380 00:16:31,083 --> 00:16:33,917 Maybe this is the entrance or maybe this is a way in, 381 00:16:34,042 --> 00:16:35,708 and, I'm all for figuring out 382 00:16:35,875 --> 00:16:37,542 a safe way to explore this more. 383 00:16:37,667 --> 00:16:40,750 Well, I'm ready to head down if you guys are. 384 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:43,275 I appreciate you showing us, Chris. - Hey, no problem, man. 385 00:16:45,583 --> 00:16:47,500 There's multiple layers to this property. 386 00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:50,833 I think what's going on here is bigger than any of us here. 387 00:16:50,958 --> 00:16:53,167 It's bigger than a science experiment. 388 00:16:53,292 --> 00:16:55,167 It's bigger than a government contract. 389 00:16:55,292 --> 00:16:57,167 It's bigger than all of us. 390 00:16:57,292 --> 00:17:00,042 How else can I explain some of this stuff 391 00:17:00,167 --> 00:17:01,458 throughout all those years? 392 00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,667 Okay, we got our GPS data. 393 00:17:03,833 --> 00:17:05,500 We know where it's at. 394 00:17:05,583 --> 00:17:07,208 Let's get out of here. 395 00:17:16,875 --> 00:17:18,500 Hey, there's Jim. 396 00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:21,208 Hello, guys. - Hey, Jim. 397 00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:23,291 What's going on? - Good to see you. 398 00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,000 The day after Erik and I conducted our experiment 399 00:17:26,125 --> 00:17:29,000 at Jack FM, ranch manager Jim Morse 400 00:17:29,125 --> 00:17:31,583 showed up to share something pretty crazy with us. 401 00:17:31,708 --> 00:17:33,958 Been doing a little outreach. 402 00:17:34,083 --> 00:17:36,458 I had a guy that, sent me some videos. 403 00:17:36,583 --> 00:17:38,583 This is local? - This is local. 404 00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:41,208 Yeah, so, maybe I can show you these, 405 00:17:41,375 --> 00:17:43,167 and you can make heads or tails out of them. 406 00:17:43,292 --> 00:17:45,292 What are we looking at here? 407 00:17:45,417 --> 00:17:47,000 I guess it's these lights right here.- 408 00:17:50,167 --> 00:17:52,000 Where did this come from? 409 00:17:52,125 --> 00:17:53,542 Is this from the community nearby? 410 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:55,434 Yeah, this is from the community out here in the basin. 411 00:17:55,458 --> 00:17:56,833 Um... 412 00:17:56,958 --> 00:17:59,667 I mean, there was people from Moon Lake, 413 00:17:59,750 --> 00:18:01,833 miles away, that saw the lights. - Really? 414 00:18:01,958 --> 00:18:03,667 Well, you know, looking at that, 415 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,125 first I thought it was stars, 416 00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:06,808 but look, look, they're moving. - Yeah. 417 00:18:09,458 --> 00:18:10,917 Look at that. 418 00:18:11,042 --> 00:18:12,458 Wow. 419 00:18:15,125 --> 00:18:16,958 Jim, when was this video taken? 420 00:18:17,083 --> 00:18:19,250 Last night, about 8:00 p.m. 421 00:18:19,375 --> 00:18:20,667 Really? That's just a few hours 422 00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:22,018 after we played that sound on the radio, Erik. 423 00:18:22,042 --> 00:18:23,167 No kidding. 424 00:18:23,292 --> 00:18:24,667 It definitely stirred up 425 00:18:24,833 --> 00:18:26,333 a lot of interest out here. 426 00:18:26,458 --> 00:18:27,476 Look, and in the next video, they're in 427 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:28,917 completely different kind of... 428 00:18:29,042 --> 00:18:30,417 They've moved a bunch. - Yeah. 429 00:18:30,542 --> 00:18:31,917 And there's a bunch. 430 00:18:32,042 --> 00:18:33,458 There's, like, four or five of them. 431 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:37,917 Wow. Well, that is interesting. 432 00:18:38,042 --> 00:18:39,322 It's like some kind of formation 433 00:18:39,375 --> 00:18:40,809 of the lights, they're doing something. 434 00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:43,000 Now, if we actually stimulated 435 00:18:43,167 --> 00:18:45,375 these UAP to appear by broadcasting 436 00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,417 the sound from our 1.6 gigahertz signal 437 00:18:47,542 --> 00:18:50,500 out to Roosevelt, that's incredible. 438 00:18:50,583 --> 00:18:52,768 They definitely didn't look like any conventional aircraft 439 00:18:52,792 --> 00:18:54,167 I've ever seen. 440 00:18:54,250 --> 00:18:55,875 It looks like five lights. 441 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,833 What on earth? 442 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,667 They're clearly moving. 443 00:18:59,792 --> 00:19:01,167 They're flying, 444 00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:03,143 and I don't see any airplane navigation lights. 445 00:19:03,167 --> 00:19:04,792 No, I didn't either. - I didn't either. 446 00:19:04,917 --> 00:19:06,333 I couldn't see a single blink. Yeah. 447 00:19:06,417 --> 00:19:08,000 I don't know what that is. - Yeah. 448 00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:10,250 I got to tell you, though, it's intriguing. 449 00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,184 Yeah, I-I want to pick this apart frame by frame. 450 00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:14,708 Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Let me take a look at this. 451 00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:17,000 I've never seen a pattern 452 00:19:17,083 --> 00:19:19,875 of this many mysterious lights in the sky, 453 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,250 after any of our activities. 454 00:19:21,375 --> 00:19:22,292 You know, usually we see one. - One. 455 00:19:22,375 --> 00:19:24,542 Maybe two. But that's pretty... 456 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,393 That's pretty exciting. I don't know what that means. 457 00:19:26,417 --> 00:19:28,958 Yeah. That's more than a coincidence. 458 00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:31,042 Seeing these videos was incredible, 459 00:19:31,208 --> 00:19:33,417 because it wasn't just multiple UAPs 460 00:19:33,542 --> 00:19:35,375 that appeared at the same time. 461 00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,333 They also seemed to be maneuvering 462 00:19:37,458 --> 00:19:39,167 in a coordinated formation. 463 00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:40,667 There it is. 464 00:19:40,833 --> 00:19:42,667 Wow. 465 00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:44,726 When we broadcasted our signal at the radio station, 466 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:47,583 we could see a very definite frequency register 467 00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:50,875 on the spectrum analyzer, as if something was responding. 468 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 What I want to know is if these UAP 469 00:19:54,125 --> 00:19:56,417 were also stimulated by our experiment. 470 00:19:56,542 --> 00:19:58,833 Clearly, we now have an investigation 471 00:19:58,958 --> 00:20:01,542 that goes beyond the boundaries of Skinwalker Ranch. 472 00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:04,125 Well, if you get any stuff like this, 473 00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:05,934 absolutely let us see it. - Okay. Yeah. Thank you. 474 00:20:05,958 --> 00:20:07,143 Especially, you know, getting the date and the time 475 00:20:07,167 --> 00:20:08,875 with it also, that's great. 476 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,583 You guys really stirred the old, hornets' nest up. 477 00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:13,000 Yeah. 478 00:20:13,083 --> 00:20:14,958 Okay, well, if I can borrow this 479 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:16,101 long enough to get the video off... Yep, absolutely. 480 00:20:16,125 --> 00:20:17,625 Absolutely. 481 00:20:17,708 --> 00:20:19,458 And I'm gonna tear it apart frame by frame. 482 00:20:19,542 --> 00:20:21,458 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 483 00:20:21,542 --> 00:20:22,333 I'll get back to the neighbor, okay. - All right. 484 00:20:22,417 --> 00:20:23,697 Thanks a lot. - Thanks so much. 485 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:25,226 I'll get this back to you soon. - Thank you. 486 00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:26,570 See you later, Jim. - Thank you. 487 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,833 All right. 488 00:20:40,208 --> 00:20:42,833 Well... - Yup. 489 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,792 This is the area we're looking at. 490 00:20:44,875 --> 00:20:47,333 After our meeting with Chris Bartel, 491 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,167 we brought Jake Huffman out, 492 00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:52,250 who has spent his career building oil well sites 493 00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:55,208 and as part of that, has used a lot of explosives 494 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:57,042 and done a lot of blasting. 495 00:20:57,167 --> 00:20:59,458 We wanted to get his eyes on the mesa 496 00:20:59,542 --> 00:21:01,667 and see if he could tell if this was a natural cave-in 497 00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:04,333 or a purposeful one, and what the best method 498 00:21:04,458 --> 00:21:06,583 for getting into the mesa would be. 499 00:21:06,708 --> 00:21:09,625 Well, about a quarter of the way down from the top, 500 00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:14,458 there's an opening where that little clay slough-off is. 501 00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:17,167 We had a former guard from Bigelow's era 502 00:21:17,292 --> 00:21:18,958 that told us about this large opening 503 00:21:19,042 --> 00:21:21,583 he'd climbed down in, there were some traps and stuff, 504 00:21:21,708 --> 00:21:23,667 but it appeared like it had collapsed in. 505 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,500 And the whole time we've been here, 506 00:21:25,583 --> 00:21:28,292 we've heard reports of these large tunnels 507 00:21:28,417 --> 00:21:31,167 that people can walk clear, clear back in. 508 00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:32,625 Really? 509 00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:34,588 Some underground bases and, I mean, you name it. 510 00:21:34,667 --> 00:21:36,107 We've heard all kinds of crazy things 511 00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:37,292 about this hill. 512 00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:38,833 And we've searched and searched 513 00:21:38,917 --> 00:21:41,875 and haven't found anything that resembles that 514 00:21:42,042 --> 00:21:44,333 until we got to this spot, 515 00:21:44,458 --> 00:21:46,667 and it does appear like there could have been 516 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:49,667 a large opening that went back and it caved in. 517 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:53,333 I'd like to take a closer look, 518 00:21:53,417 --> 00:21:55,375 see if maybe we can see some signs 519 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,542 of any drilling activity. - Okay. 520 00:21:58,667 --> 00:22:00,000 Go ahead. 521 00:22:00,083 --> 00:22:02,958 We're just gonna go right up here to the base. 522 00:22:06,667 --> 00:22:09,167 Looking at it, do you see anything 523 00:22:09,292 --> 00:22:10,500 that would indicate to you 524 00:22:10,625 --> 00:22:13,958 that this was collapsed on purpose? 525 00:22:14,042 --> 00:22:15,542 Actually, yeah. 526 00:22:17,667 --> 00:22:19,833 Usually, if you have a slough, 527 00:22:19,958 --> 00:22:22,958 then you're gonna have material that's built up somewhere, 528 00:22:23,083 --> 00:22:26,542 you know, and I'm not seeing anywhere where... 529 00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,375 softer material or mud or anything 530 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:31,708 pushed out from underneath it. - That was pushed out? 531 00:22:33,042 --> 00:22:34,333 That's a good point. 532 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,958 That tells me 533 00:22:37,042 --> 00:22:38,958 this was done for a purpose. 534 00:22:41,542 --> 00:22:44,042 I don't know what that purpose would be. 535 00:22:44,167 --> 00:22:46,333 I can't see the rock having a value 536 00:22:46,458 --> 00:22:48,417 as landscaping rocks, or... 537 00:22:49,625 --> 00:22:53,375 I believe at some point there was blasting done, 538 00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:58,833 and perhaps that was done to hide something. 539 00:23:00,292 --> 00:23:03,542 Jake suggests that blasting has occurred in this area, 540 00:23:03,667 --> 00:23:07,542 that perhaps the face of this mesa has been collapsed in, 541 00:23:07,667 --> 00:23:10,500 and if so, it makes me wonder, why did they collapse it in? 542 00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:12,292 Was it for safety, to keep people out 543 00:23:12,417 --> 00:23:15,625 of these, tunnels or mines, or whatever they were, 544 00:23:15,708 --> 00:23:17,833 or were they trying to hide something? 545 00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:19,309 We got to talk to Erik and Travis about all this 546 00:23:19,333 --> 00:23:21,500 and see what they think. 547 00:23:21,667 --> 00:23:24,125 We definitely need to investigate it a lot more. 548 00:23:24,208 --> 00:23:25,292 Yep. - So... 549 00:23:25,417 --> 00:23:27,125 We appreciate your expertise. 550 00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:28,351 I can only imagine we'll have you back out here again. 551 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:29,750 Whatever I can do to help. 552 00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:31,750 Okay. - Okay. We appreciate it. Thank you. 553 00:23:40,167 --> 00:23:43,292 We had an interesting visit with Chris Bartel. 554 00:23:43,417 --> 00:23:44,684 Chris shared some experiences that he had 555 00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:46,333 while he was here on the ranch. 556 00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:48,833 One of them, he was going across the mesa. 557 00:23:48,958 --> 00:23:52,917 He was following some very, very large tracks. 558 00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:56,333 The stride of this animal is like three feet. 559 00:23:56,417 --> 00:23:57,583 That's a big animal. 560 00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,333 He used the term canine, 561 00:23:59,417 --> 00:24:01,750 but those tracks looked like a very large wolf. 562 00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:06,000 And as he came down, he found this cavern. 563 00:24:06,167 --> 00:24:09,417 It was pretty large, and there were large traps 564 00:24:09,542 --> 00:24:11,458 that had been set down inside of this. 565 00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:15,625 The interesting thing was, is that when you look down in it, 566 00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:18,875 you can tell that the rocks have collapsed down. 567 00:24:19,042 --> 00:24:20,434 Wait, wait, so you've actually seen it? 568 00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,667 Yes, and I have a solid GPS coordinate 569 00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:25,333 for the actual opening. 570 00:24:25,458 --> 00:24:26,818 So, if you provide the coordinates, 571 00:24:26,875 --> 00:24:29,000 I can actually bring it up on the screen. 572 00:24:29,083 --> 00:24:31,667 Ever since I joined the team two years ago, 573 00:24:31,833 --> 00:24:34,458 I've wanted to investigate the stories about caves 574 00:24:34,583 --> 00:24:36,250 and supposed underground caverns, 575 00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:38,417 but we just couldn't find any. 576 00:24:38,542 --> 00:24:39,726 I say we pull this up on the screen and look at it. Yeah. 577 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:41,833 Yeah, let's do that. 578 00:24:41,917 --> 00:24:44,833 So, when Thomas said that former Bigelow team member 579 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,208 Chris Bartel showed them where one was possibly covered over, 580 00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:51,667 I couldn't wait to learn more. 581 00:24:51,792 --> 00:24:54,333 It's about three-quarters of the way up the mesa, 582 00:24:54,417 --> 00:24:56,542 and it looks like 583 00:24:56,667 --> 00:24:59,000 there potentially could have been a much larger cavern 584 00:24:59,167 --> 00:25:02,667 that the whole thing has just kind of sunk in and collapsed. 585 00:25:02,792 --> 00:25:05,042 Is this close to where we're starting to see 586 00:25:05,167 --> 00:25:08,667 some of the GPS anomalies where they vanished into the mesa? 587 00:25:08,792 --> 00:25:11,500 Now, that is a great question. 588 00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:14,333 Actually, it's the opposite. 589 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,500 In some of our exercises, 590 00:25:16,667 --> 00:25:18,375 we've seen things seem to emerge 591 00:25:18,542 --> 00:25:21,083 from about that part of the mesa. 592 00:25:21,208 --> 00:25:22,667 Really? 593 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:27,500 Package away. - Earlier this summer, 594 00:25:27,625 --> 00:25:30,167 we conducted two different aerial experiments 595 00:25:30,292 --> 00:25:32,833 over the triangle area, using GPS sensors... 596 00:25:32,917 --> 00:25:34,500 I'm getting something, yeah. 597 00:25:34,625 --> 00:25:36,500 ...trying to pinpoint the location 598 00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:38,333 where we keep detecting high-energy spikes 599 00:25:38,417 --> 00:25:40,292 about a mile above the ranch. 600 00:25:40,375 --> 00:25:42,833 These blue cubes represent 601 00:25:42,917 --> 00:25:45,708 the position of the GPS payloads. 602 00:25:45,875 --> 00:25:48,292 It looks like you smashed into the mesa. 603 00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:50,875 You popped out on this side right there. 604 00:25:51,042 --> 00:25:54,500 But in both cases, the GPS data we collected 605 00:25:54,583 --> 00:25:57,292 inexplicably showed that our aircrafts 606 00:25:57,375 --> 00:25:58,958 flew down below the mesa. 607 00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:00,458 Look at that. 608 00:26:00,542 --> 00:26:02,750 That's about that location right there. 609 00:26:02,875 --> 00:26:06,125 And now it looks like the exit point corresponds 610 00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:08,417 with this spot where Chris Bartel says 611 00:26:08,542 --> 00:26:10,000 a cave entrance used to exist. 612 00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:12,000 I don't know yet, 613 00:26:12,125 --> 00:26:13,875 but maybe that's where 614 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,375 our answers about the triangle area are hidden. 615 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:19,500 After seeing this, we brought Jake out here 616 00:26:19,583 --> 00:26:21,708 and had him look at it. 617 00:26:21,833 --> 00:26:25,083 He had a feeling that it looked like 618 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:27,542 there had been some demolition work there. 619 00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:30,667 Did Bigelow's team discover something 620 00:26:30,792 --> 00:26:32,833 that we have yet to discover? 621 00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:34,667 If there really is a cave there 622 00:26:34,792 --> 00:26:36,750 and it was covered up, 623 00:26:36,875 --> 00:26:38,375 that had to be done 624 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:39,976 during Bigelow's ownership of the ranch, 625 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,917 since he's the one that Brandon bought it from. 626 00:26:42,042 --> 00:26:44,792 So, given that Bigelow was funded in part 627 00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:47,375 by the federal government for his research, 628 00:26:47,542 --> 00:26:50,125 what could they have found that needed to be kept hidden? 629 00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:53,500 It'd be good to get Pete Kelsey to fly over it 630 00:26:53,625 --> 00:26:55,500 with the infrared camera 631 00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:57,425 and see if there's any temperature differences 632 00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,042 that might suggest there's an airflow 633 00:26:59,208 --> 00:27:00,500 or a pocket or something. 634 00:27:00,667 --> 00:27:03,542 Absolutely. I-I've been really impressed 635 00:27:03,708 --> 00:27:05,393 by his work in the past, and to be able to have him 636 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:07,125 bring out even more equipment 637 00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:09,750 that's more technologically advanced would be awesome. 638 00:27:09,875 --> 00:27:11,417 It sounds like we got a plan. 639 00:27:11,542 --> 00:27:12,708 The more detail we can get 640 00:27:12,833 --> 00:27:14,351 about this part of the property the better. 641 00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:17,083 We'll get right to it. - Okay, sounds good. 642 00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:26,000 Right in here somewhere? 643 00:27:26,167 --> 00:27:27,875 Right up on the edge up there. 644 00:27:28,917 --> 00:27:31,083 To help us figure out 645 00:27:31,208 --> 00:27:32,875 if this really is a covered entrance 646 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 to something in the mesa, 647 00:27:35,125 --> 00:27:36,833 technologist Pete Kelsey has brought out 648 00:27:36,958 --> 00:27:39,208 a drone with a thermal imaging camera 649 00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:42,500 that'll be able to identify any signs of voids 650 00:27:42,625 --> 00:27:44,125 or caverns below the rubble. 651 00:27:44,208 --> 00:27:46,333 This looks great. 652 00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,458 Thank you, sir. 653 00:27:48,583 --> 00:27:51,000 The guys have asked me to look for caves 654 00:27:51,167 --> 00:27:52,851 here on the property. The thermal camera could be 655 00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:54,458 a really good fit there, 656 00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:57,792 because typically caves, tunnels, 657 00:27:57,917 --> 00:28:01,083 the air inside is much cooler than the air outside. 658 00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:02,833 If it shows cold air, 659 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,833 that could mean that there's a network. 660 00:28:04,958 --> 00:28:06,833 All right, I got all green lights here. 661 00:28:06,958 --> 00:28:09,125 Ready when you are. 662 00:28:09,208 --> 00:28:11,875 Where's the hole, Thomas? 663 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,083 It's, basically right... right up there. 664 00:28:15,208 --> 00:28:18,292 You can only see it from the top down. 665 00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:19,833 You can't see it looking up. 666 00:28:19,958 --> 00:28:22,042 So, I'm gonna just go up there so that you have 667 00:28:22,208 --> 00:28:24,226 an easy point of reference as you're trying to locate 668 00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:25,708 where this opening is at. 669 00:28:25,833 --> 00:28:27,226 I think it will be a lot easier if I'm up there 670 00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:29,500 standing close to it, so... - Okay. 671 00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:31,125 Okay, I'm gonna get started. 672 00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:32,917 Be careful. - Yup. 673 00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:38,083 In my years on the ranch, there's been rampant rumors 674 00:28:38,208 --> 00:28:43,000 about underground tunnels, underground bases, 675 00:28:43,125 --> 00:28:45,667 and really, with the technology that we're deploying now, 676 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:48,667 the hopes is to either find it 677 00:28:48,792 --> 00:28:50,667 or-or finally put it to bed once and for all. 678 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,292 Right here. - There? 679 00:28:54,417 --> 00:28:57,500 Yup. - Spinning up. 680 00:29:03,917 --> 00:29:05,101 So, you're flying the thermal camera first? 681 00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:06,625 Yeah, so the fancy term is 682 00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:09,167 this is a radiometric thermal camera, 683 00:29:09,292 --> 00:29:10,934 which means it will give me the temperature. 684 00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:12,917 But it also can do just video. 685 00:29:13,042 --> 00:29:16,583 Very cool. - Heading for Thomas. 686 00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,792 There he is. 687 00:29:20,875 --> 00:29:22,500 I will zoom in on him a bit. 688 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,500 So, the hole must be that thing right in front of him. 689 00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:34,917 Is that hole really the coldest thing within the field of view? 690 00:29:35,042 --> 00:29:37,708 Yes. It's black. - Okay. 691 00:29:37,833 --> 00:29:40,292 It's 64 degrees. 692 00:29:40,375 --> 00:29:42,833 Whereas on the rock surfaces you are at... 693 00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:45,917 Yeah, out in the sun, it just went to a 102. 694 00:29:46,042 --> 00:29:48,000 A 40-degree difference? 695 00:29:49,125 --> 00:29:51,042 I'm gonna go ahead and take 696 00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:52,667 one of those smoke bombs up there. 697 00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,184 So you guys keep an eye out down here 698 00:29:54,208 --> 00:29:55,608 and see if you see smoke coming out. 699 00:29:55,667 --> 00:29:57,292 That is a great idea. 700 00:29:59,583 --> 00:30:02,167 In addition to Pete's high-tech drone, 701 00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:04,500 we also brought along some low-tech smoke bombs, 702 00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:07,542 to look for evidence of holes or possible entry points. 703 00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:09,917 Once we drop the bombs, 704 00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:12,000 if the smoke starts emitting back out of the mesa 705 00:30:12,167 --> 00:30:14,059 from different points then where we dropped them, 706 00:30:14,083 --> 00:30:15,833 it would be a sign that there really is 707 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,458 a covered-up cave or tunnel system 708 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:20,958 under all these boulders. - Hey, Travis. 709 00:30:21,083 --> 00:30:22,763 We're ready for you to pop that smoke bomb. 710 00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:24,625 All right, we're gonna pop a smoke. 711 00:30:24,708 --> 00:30:26,792 Three... 712 00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:28,958 two, one... 713 00:30:29,042 --> 00:30:31,792 Popping smoke, popping smoke. 714 00:30:34,792 --> 00:30:37,042 You see any effect? - No. 715 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,840 There, it's starting to come out. Look at that. 716 00:30:40,958 --> 00:30:42,792 Blue smoke. 717 00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:45,583 Yeah, so I'm getting no love on the thermal. 718 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:48,458 So, I'll switch to RGB. 719 00:30:49,708 --> 00:30:52,167 It's coming out down here. 720 00:30:52,292 --> 00:30:54,333 Look. Look behind you. 721 00:30:54,458 --> 00:30:55,917 It's coming out everywhere. 722 00:30:56,042 --> 00:30:58,417 Ooh, that makes my day. 723 00:30:58,542 --> 00:31:00,292 Wow, look at that. 724 00:31:00,375 --> 00:31:02,333 Little wasps of it down here. 725 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,625 If there's a connection between these larger openings, 726 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:07,917 perhaps that cave we're talking about. Yeah. 727 00:31:08,042 --> 00:31:10,042 There was a cave at one time. 728 00:31:10,208 --> 00:31:12,958 Thomas and I have found a couple of holes up here. 729 00:31:13,042 --> 00:31:16,292 I think we're gonna throw our smoke grenades in there. 730 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,226 So, keep an eye out, see if you see it coming out 731 00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:21,125 anywhere on the mesa. - Copy that, thanks. 732 00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:23,125 Right here. 733 00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:31,500 Let it get smoking good. 734 00:31:31,583 --> 00:31:34,125 That's good, orange smoke, orange smoke. 735 00:31:35,167 --> 00:31:37,667 I'm gonna step back. 736 00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:40,500 Yeah, definitely, we got smoke. 737 00:31:40,583 --> 00:31:42,000 A little bit. 738 00:31:42,125 --> 00:31:45,000 Yeah. 739 00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:46,845 There should be a lot more smoke coming out. 740 00:31:46,917 --> 00:31:49,208 Actually, look, look, it's getting sucked in. 741 00:31:49,333 --> 00:31:52,250 Yeah, the smoke's going down. 742 00:31:52,375 --> 00:31:53,958 Look, it's completely gone. 743 00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,482 We should be seeing smoke everywhere. 744 00:31:55,542 --> 00:31:58,667 There's no smoke. - There is nothing here. 745 00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:00,625 No smoke? 746 00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:03,167 I don't see anything. 747 00:32:03,292 --> 00:32:05,167 Where did it go? 748 00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:11,333 Where'd the smoke go? 749 00:32:11,417 --> 00:32:12,708 Where'd it go? 750 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:14,125 Actually, look, look. 751 00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:15,667 It's getting sucked in. 752 00:32:15,792 --> 00:32:18,000 Yeah, the smoke's going down. 753 00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,333 The wind's blowing the smoke down, Dragon. 754 00:32:20,417 --> 00:32:22,667 Really? 755 00:32:22,833 --> 00:32:24,667 When we dropped smoke bombs down this opening, 756 00:32:24,792 --> 00:32:26,417 the smoke started to come out, 757 00:32:26,542 --> 00:32:28,667 and then it was as if somebody turned on a vacuum, 758 00:32:28,833 --> 00:32:31,667 and the smoke just disappeared and sucked down in the hole. 759 00:32:31,792 --> 00:32:33,833 Yeah, something's sucking the smoke 760 00:32:33,917 --> 00:32:36,000 into the cave or the hole. 761 00:32:36,125 --> 00:32:37,917 Nothing. 762 00:32:38,042 --> 00:32:41,417 There's no smoke at all! 763 00:32:41,542 --> 00:32:43,167 That is really strange. 764 00:32:43,292 --> 00:32:44,667 Yeah, it's inhaling. 765 00:32:44,792 --> 00:32:46,000 Yeah, it's inhaling all right. 766 00:32:46,083 --> 00:32:47,875 So, if that's an inhale, the question is, 767 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,333 where are the lungs? 768 00:32:49,417 --> 00:32:50,792 Hey, Erik, you copy? 769 00:32:50,917 --> 00:32:52,875 Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 770 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,500 You guys don't see any smoke down there? 771 00:32:55,583 --> 00:32:58,208 Travis, I could only see the smoke at the beginning. 772 00:32:58,375 --> 00:32:59,851 It disappeared just like you reported. 773 00:32:59,875 --> 00:33:01,833 No trace. 774 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,480 I don't see it coming out of anywhere. 775 00:33:06,958 --> 00:33:08,375 You going up top? - Yeah. 776 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,000 Thomas is going up top. 777 00:33:10,125 --> 00:33:11,184 Look up there and see if you can see any smoke 778 00:33:11,208 --> 00:33:12,500 with the drone. 779 00:33:12,625 --> 00:33:13,750 Yeah. All right, panning up. 780 00:33:19,208 --> 00:33:22,167 You see any effect? - No. 781 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:25,333 Anything, Thomas? - No. 782 00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:28,292 For the smoke to be getting pulled down into the mesa, 783 00:33:28,375 --> 00:33:31,167 that means that there's some kind of cavern or void 784 00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:34,833 sucking the smoke back underground like a vacuum. 785 00:33:34,917 --> 00:33:37,292 Is it something natural or could there be 786 00:33:37,417 --> 00:33:39,708 some artificial object or device causing that? 787 00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:42,250 Hey, guys, I got one more. 788 00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:44,083 Do we want to try and repeat that? 789 00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:45,667 I say we do. What do you think? 790 00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:46,708 Yeah. - Heck, yeah. 791 00:33:46,833 --> 00:33:48,250 Okay, I'll bring it up. - Okay. 792 00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:50,875 Erik, be advised, 793 00:33:51,042 --> 00:33:52,583 Dragon has one more smoke grenade. 794 00:33:52,708 --> 00:33:53,851 He's gonna bring it up and we're gonna drop it 795 00:33:53,875 --> 00:33:55,833 in the hole for a repeat. 796 00:33:55,958 --> 00:33:56,833 Copy that. 797 00:33:56,958 --> 00:33:58,375 You want to do it, Dragon, or... 798 00:33:58,542 --> 00:33:59,833 Sure, I can. 799 00:33:59,958 --> 00:34:01,375 All right, well, look. 800 00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,083 We're getting ready to pop smoke again, 801 00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:05,000 so keep an eye out. 802 00:34:05,083 --> 00:34:09,417 Three, two, one... 803 00:34:12,042 --> 00:34:14,125 Yeah, that's probably good enough. 804 00:34:15,792 --> 00:34:17,833 Purple smoke. - Yeah. 805 00:34:17,917 --> 00:34:19,357 There's just a little bit coming out, 806 00:34:19,417 --> 00:34:20,792 but that-- N-No. 807 00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:22,500 Look at it. 808 00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:25,375 It's pulling it back down. - Yeah, it is, look at it. 809 00:34:25,542 --> 00:34:27,262 Yeah, look, it's pulling it down right here. 810 00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:32,875 That first little bit kind of filtered out, 811 00:34:33,042 --> 00:34:35,292 the rest is getting sucked back down. 812 00:34:35,417 --> 00:34:38,208 There should be a lot more smoke than that. 813 00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:40,958 Those smoke grenades last a while. 814 00:34:41,083 --> 00:34:43,625 It's gone. - It's gone, look. 815 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,833 That's just weird. 816 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:48,333 Hey, Erik, same thing happened. 817 00:34:48,417 --> 00:34:49,708 A little bit of smoke came out 818 00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:51,250 then it all just kind of went away. 819 00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,018 Did y'all see any smoke come out of anywhere? 820 00:34:53,042 --> 00:34:54,458 Not down here, Travis. 821 00:34:54,542 --> 00:34:57,333 Did Thomas see anything on the back side? 822 00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,833 I don't see anything up here. - Yeah? 823 00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:02,078 I even walked back there up on the ridge a little bit. 824 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:03,250 I don't see anything. 825 00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:06,625 We've got a lot of data suggesting that 826 00:35:06,708 --> 00:35:09,583 there's something interesting going on in this area. 827 00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:12,167 With all the stories that we've heard of tunnels 828 00:35:12,292 --> 00:35:16,333 and caverns and underground bases here in the mesa, 829 00:35:16,458 --> 00:35:19,833 I finally feel like we're starting to make some progress. 830 00:35:19,958 --> 00:35:22,458 Well, it means there's got to be some sort of an opening, 831 00:35:22,542 --> 00:35:25,417 if it's pulling that much smoke and none of it's leaking out. 832 00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:28,000 We're out of smoke bombs, I guess just head down. 833 00:35:28,083 --> 00:35:30,417 All right, I'm landing. 834 00:35:31,833 --> 00:35:34,208 As I like to say, "We are led by the data." 835 00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:36,667 And all of the data are pointing to 836 00:35:36,792 --> 00:35:39,000 the existence of a large void, 837 00:35:39,125 --> 00:35:41,542 somewhere inside of the face of this mesa. 838 00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:45,250 I would love to get eyes on what's in there. 839 00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:47,958 Welcome back to earth. - Yeah. 840 00:35:48,083 --> 00:35:50,625 So you did find something? 841 00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:53,500 We did find something. 842 00:35:53,583 --> 00:35:55,833 Sure weird, from what I saw from the air. 843 00:35:55,917 --> 00:35:59,542 It was, it was like the mesa just took a deep breath. 844 00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:03,167 Yep, you could literally see it being sucked down into the hole. 845 00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:06,000 And the hole, it seems like it just went forever. 846 00:36:06,083 --> 00:36:08,000 It was just like a vacuum cleaner turned on 847 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:09,458 and it sucked all that smoke down 848 00:36:09,583 --> 00:36:10,208 and then it was gone. - Yeah, it was gone. 849 00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:12,000 So, it went somewhere. 850 00:36:12,125 --> 00:36:14,458 That hole goes deeper than we think. 851 00:36:14,583 --> 00:36:16,383 Well, I think we got to figure some things out 852 00:36:16,542 --> 00:36:18,434 before we do the next thing. We really want to do this right. 853 00:36:18,458 --> 00:36:21,042 The experiment definitely confirmed 854 00:36:21,208 --> 00:36:23,125 that there is something that we need to explore 855 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:24,625 deep inside the mesa. 856 00:36:24,708 --> 00:36:26,917 But we're gonna have to move some earth, 857 00:36:27,042 --> 00:36:28,351 and that means digging or drilling 858 00:36:28,375 --> 00:36:29,875 to find out what it is. 859 00:36:30,042 --> 00:36:31,434 So, we need to have a serious meeting 860 00:36:31,458 --> 00:36:32,518 with Brandon and get his blessing, 861 00:36:32,542 --> 00:36:34,333 'cause we've seen in the past, 862 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,250 it's always risky to dig on Skinwalker Ranch, 863 00:36:37,375 --> 00:36:39,042 but I don't see another choice. 864 00:36:39,167 --> 00:36:40,917 Great work, as always, Pete. 865 00:36:41,042 --> 00:36:43,083 Thank you very much, appreciate it. - My pleasure. 866 00:36:43,208 --> 00:36:45,250 All right. We'll load up, head back. 867 00:36:54,917 --> 00:36:56,625 Well, here they are. 868 00:36:56,708 --> 00:36:58,625 Now that we've found what may be 869 00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:02,000 a purposely covered up system of caverns, or who knows what, 870 00:37:02,125 --> 00:37:03,167 in the mesa... 871 00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:07,250 ...we need to explain it to Brandon 872 00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:08,726 and have a serious discussion about 873 00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:10,500 what he's willing to allow us to do 874 00:37:10,583 --> 00:37:13,792 to get inside and see what the heck could be there. 875 00:37:13,875 --> 00:37:15,292 Well, Brandon, as usual, 876 00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:16,768 we have some intriguing things to report. 877 00:37:16,792 --> 00:37:20,250 We've taken a lot of data with the GPS experiments, 878 00:37:20,375 --> 00:37:21,851 with the helicopter, with the airplane, 879 00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:24,833 and we've seemed to find 880 00:37:24,958 --> 00:37:27,500 there's an anomaly that's just a little bit west 881 00:37:27,625 --> 00:37:30,625 of the, triangle that's causing it to look like... 882 00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,500 actually, that Cameron's helicopter flew us 883 00:37:32,667 --> 00:37:34,167 into the mesa, 884 00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:36,708 and then out of the mesa on top somehow or other. 885 00:37:36,833 --> 00:37:38,513 Okay. That's kind of in the same location 886 00:37:38,583 --> 00:37:40,708 that we've had an eyewitness suggest 887 00:37:40,833 --> 00:37:42,309 that there was a cave there in the past. 888 00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:44,333 Really? Wow. 889 00:37:44,458 --> 00:37:48,542 Chris Bartel, one of the former guards 890 00:37:48,667 --> 00:37:51,500 for Mr. Bigelow, he came out here and visited with us, 891 00:37:51,667 --> 00:37:53,708 and he showed us this cavern. 892 00:37:53,833 --> 00:37:56,792 Thomas and I had one of his associates come out 893 00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:59,000 who's done a lot of blasting and drilling. 894 00:37:59,125 --> 00:38:00,325 Well, he-he just looked at it, 895 00:38:00,417 --> 00:38:02,333 and he said it does have the appearance 896 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:05,667 that it could have been blasted and collapsed. 897 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:08,000 Chris Bartel showing us this cavern 898 00:38:08,125 --> 00:38:09,605 led us to explore further in that area 899 00:38:09,708 --> 00:38:11,375 to see if we could find other clues 900 00:38:11,542 --> 00:38:13,625 or maybe other entrances. 901 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:16,167 And we actually did find some other holes, 902 00:38:16,292 --> 00:38:18,500 which we dropped smoke bombs down into. 903 00:38:18,667 --> 00:38:21,542 The smoke started to come up out of the hole and then it was 904 00:38:21,708 --> 00:38:23,167 as if somebody turned on a vacuum, 905 00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:25,417 and the smoke sucked down into the hole, 906 00:38:25,542 --> 00:38:27,083 and we never saw another trace of it. 907 00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:29,875 Wow. - That was really strange. 908 00:38:30,042 --> 00:38:31,833 Yeah, it was-- it was odd. 909 00:38:31,958 --> 00:38:36,750 It really suggests that there is some sort of opening, 910 00:38:36,875 --> 00:38:40,333 network underneath the rocks, underneath the mesa. 911 00:38:40,458 --> 00:38:45,417 The fact that the-the smoke experiment showed 912 00:38:45,542 --> 00:38:48,167 that there's some void, there's something 913 00:38:48,292 --> 00:38:51,917 that is pulling that material into the mesa, 914 00:38:52,042 --> 00:38:53,583 I mean, that's-that's a key clue. 915 00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:55,667 Yeah, it was the most bizarre thing. 916 00:38:55,792 --> 00:38:58,167 There's an airflow somewhere going into something, 917 00:38:58,250 --> 00:39:00,458 a void somewhere or whatever. 918 00:39:00,542 --> 00:39:02,583 Since it never came out lower, that suggests 919 00:39:02,708 --> 00:39:05,542 there's an opening underneath, underneath the mesa out there. 920 00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:08,750 Yeah. - As we've discussed before, 921 00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:11,958 this is an area attended by GPS receivers 922 00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:15,500 behaving anomalously in that part of the ranch. 923 00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:18,000 What's doing it? What's interfering with them? 924 00:39:18,125 --> 00:39:20,958 And what may have been covered up in the past? Yeah. 925 00:39:21,042 --> 00:39:23,458 What were they hiding in that mesa? 926 00:39:23,542 --> 00:39:25,292 That's the big question, right? 927 00:39:25,375 --> 00:39:27,500 What were they hiding and why would they 928 00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:31,208 deliberately cover up their tracks? 929 00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:33,458 I think Thomas has found the ideal solution. 930 00:39:33,583 --> 00:39:35,083 What would you propose? 931 00:39:35,208 --> 00:39:37,958 Well, I have a, I have a good friend 932 00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:39,417 that is a driller. 933 00:39:39,542 --> 00:39:41,833 Now, he's a horizontal driller. 934 00:39:41,958 --> 00:39:44,750 This drill is special in the fact that it's directional, 935 00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:47,125 and it allows him to steer the bit around. 936 00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:50,208 Wow. - And so, we could set it up at the base of the mesa 937 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:53,125 and drill horizontally into the mesa, 938 00:39:53,208 --> 00:39:56,292 and we can steer it around. 939 00:39:56,417 --> 00:39:58,018 And so, it would allow us to explore and see 940 00:39:58,042 --> 00:40:00,500 if we might be able to punch into one of these voids. 941 00:40:00,625 --> 00:40:04,417 That is a perfect match for our problem set, Thomas. 942 00:40:04,542 --> 00:40:07,708 I'm very curious to find out what may be hidden 943 00:40:07,833 --> 00:40:09,958 in that chamber or at least in that area. 944 00:40:10,042 --> 00:40:13,417 You have my approval to proceed, but proceed with care. 945 00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:16,500 I want to minimize the amount of disruption 946 00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:18,500 over in that area, and I want to make sure 947 00:40:18,667 --> 00:40:21,208 that safety is paramount. 948 00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:24,000 You got it, Brandon. - Let's go. 949 00:40:24,125 --> 00:40:27,250 You can't really take this ranch 950 00:40:27,375 --> 00:40:29,500 as a serious scientific investigation 951 00:40:29,667 --> 00:40:32,167 if you don't take in mind 952 00:40:32,292 --> 00:40:34,458 all of the lore and mythology that comes with it. 953 00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:37,333 We've heard so many stories 954 00:40:37,458 --> 00:40:39,167 about what's underneath this mesa. 955 00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:42,542 We've heard myths of caves that have portals in them, 956 00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:44,500 even a military base. 957 00:40:44,625 --> 00:40:46,792 Any information we could get that tells us 958 00:40:46,875 --> 00:40:50,833 there's some type of void or even a structure, 959 00:40:50,917 --> 00:40:53,333 that would be amazing information. 960 00:40:53,458 --> 00:40:55,167 I believe as we move forward, 961 00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:59,500 the mesa holds secrets that have yet to be revealed. 962 00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,667 We have to always be aware 963 00:41:02,792 --> 00:41:05,458 that anytime we begin digging or disturbing the earth, 964 00:41:05,583 --> 00:41:09,042 we stand to experience harm 965 00:41:09,167 --> 00:41:11,458 and there's a risk involved. 966 00:41:11,542 --> 00:41:15,875 However, I can tell you we are onto something. 967 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,292 This is the time to put our foot on the gas 968 00:41:18,417 --> 00:41:20,542 and to charge forward, 969 00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:23,375 so we can hopefully catch a glimpse 970 00:41:23,542 --> 00:41:26,458 of what is really at work at Skinwalker Ranch. 971 00:41:31,208 --> 00:41:35,042 We're hoping that we can go drill through the mesa 972 00:41:35,167 --> 00:41:36,583 and see if we hit any voids. 973 00:41:37,875 --> 00:41:39,833 That looks like a big chunk of something. 974 00:41:39,917 --> 00:41:43,000 What is that? It definitely looks metallic. 975 00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:45,333 Let's run a snake camera down in the mesa. 976 00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:46,875 There it is. 977 00:41:47,042 --> 00:41:47,792 What is that? 978 00:41:47,917 --> 00:41:50,042 This thing is broadcasting. 979 00:41:50,167 --> 00:41:52,458 This thing shouldn't be broadcasting anything. 980 00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:55,292 Hey. Are you okay? - No. 981 00:41:55,375 --> 00:41:56,375 Tom just blacked out.