1 00:00:02,208 --> 00:00:03,333 ERIK: As we survey just over the east field here 2 00:00:03,458 --> 00:00:05,667 and in the vicinity of the triangle... 3 00:00:05,750 --> 00:00:06,708 All right, we're going. 4 00:00:06,875 --> 00:00:08,042 ...we want to understand 5 00:00:08,167 --> 00:00:09,500 whether we're dealing with 6 00:00:09,667 --> 00:00:10,833 a persistent effect 7 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,333 in those two regions of the ranch. 8 00:00:12,417 --> 00:00:14,250 -PETE: What? -TRAVIS: We are getting 9 00:00:14,375 --> 00:00:15,958 an anomaly in the air right now. 10 00:00:16,083 --> 00:00:18,167 You were at 300 feet and were detecting 11 00:00:18,292 --> 00:00:19,833 -an object. -PETE: You're kidding? 12 00:00:19,958 --> 00:00:21,500 I don't know why, but I feel 13 00:00:21,625 --> 00:00:24,125 really nervous about this. 14 00:00:24,208 --> 00:00:26,375 We're getting buffeted from the wind a little bit. 15 00:00:26,542 --> 00:00:28,625 Whoa, whoa. 16 00:00:28,708 --> 00:00:29,833 We're getting our asses kicked. 17 00:00:29,958 --> 00:00:32,167 The helicopter just... just moved. 18 00:00:32,292 --> 00:00:34,167 Whatever it was, it was trying to push us off. 19 00:00:34,292 --> 00:00:35,750 BRANDON: What could that be? 20 00:00:35,875 --> 00:00:37,375 It tends to have a shape to it. 21 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:39,333 BRANDON: Oh, my gosh, this is crazy. 22 00:00:39,458 --> 00:00:41,542 THOMAS: You guys caught something amazing. 23 00:00:42,708 --> 00:00:46,042 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 24 00:00:46,167 --> 00:00:48,583 It is considered the epicenter 25 00:00:48,708 --> 00:00:53,458 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 26 00:00:53,542 --> 00:00:55,750 animal mutilations, 27 00:00:55,875 --> 00:00:58,125 bizarre UFO sightings 28 00:00:58,250 --> 00:01:03,250 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 29 00:01:03,375 --> 00:01:05,833 For 20 years, the federal government 30 00:01:05,958 --> 00:01:09,208 tried to find answers and failed. 31 00:01:09,333 --> 00:01:13,333 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 32 00:01:13,417 --> 00:01:17,167 researchers and experts has taken over. 33 00:01:17,292 --> 00:01:21,292 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 34 00:01:23,625 --> 00:01:27,125 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 35 00:01:38,083 --> 00:01:39,542 THOMAS: Oh, yeah. They're here. 36 00:01:40,708 --> 00:01:42,292 Hey, guys. 37 00:01:42,375 --> 00:01:44,042 TRAVIS: After our experiments last week 38 00:01:44,208 --> 00:01:46,042 above the triangle and over the east field, 39 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:49,208 where we detected anomalies 300 feet in the air 40 00:01:49,375 --> 00:01:51,500 and Brandon's helicopter was pushed around 41 00:01:51,625 --> 00:01:53,792 by some kind of invisible force... 42 00:01:53,875 --> 00:01:56,000 Man, you got a big crew with you. 43 00:01:56,125 --> 00:01:57,750 ...we invited the team from Sky Elements 44 00:01:57,875 --> 00:02:00,250 out to the ranch to see if they could help us 45 00:02:00,375 --> 00:02:02,458 verify and also identify 46 00:02:02,542 --> 00:02:05,000 just what could be happening in those two areas. 47 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:07,917 KALEB: We got Preston, Tyler, and the team. 48 00:02:08,042 --> 00:02:09,833 Welcome to the Skinwalker Ranch. 49 00:02:09,958 --> 00:02:11,583 Thanks. Love to be here. 50 00:02:11,708 --> 00:02:14,833 TRAVIS: Now, unfortunately, Pete Kelsey was afraid 51 00:02:14,958 --> 00:02:17,875 that his lidar scanner may not have gotten accurate data. 52 00:02:20,250 --> 00:02:22,333 So here we are, over the east field, 53 00:02:22,417 --> 00:02:24,417 and there's where I said, you know what, 54 00:02:24,542 --> 00:02:26,667 we've got an anomaly in this spot again. 55 00:02:26,750 --> 00:02:28,500 PETE: Be advised, 56 00:02:28,625 --> 00:02:30,833 the vendor looked at this and went, "Oh, you're ghosting," 57 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,542 and to cut to the chase, 58 00:02:33,667 --> 00:02:36,083 I don't think this is 100% conclusive 59 00:02:36,208 --> 00:02:37,917 in either direction. 60 00:02:38,042 --> 00:02:39,083 I-I agree with that. 61 00:02:39,208 --> 00:02:41,917 Something was clearly happening 62 00:02:42,042 --> 00:02:43,875 to the helicopter in both locations. 63 00:02:44,042 --> 00:02:46,500 So now we're hoping that Sky Elements 64 00:02:46,583 --> 00:02:49,417 can run a safer and much more comprehensive scan 65 00:02:49,542 --> 00:02:51,542 over the triangle and the east field 66 00:02:51,667 --> 00:02:54,250 with their cutting-edge drone technology 67 00:02:54,375 --> 00:02:56,625 to get us better data and hopefully some answers. 68 00:02:57,708 --> 00:02:59,333 I was going to ask how much homework 69 00:02:59,458 --> 00:03:02,083 you guys have done on this before you said yes. 70 00:03:02,208 --> 00:03:03,208 PRESTON: Very little. 71 00:03:03,375 --> 00:03:04,417 We've flown in a lot of, 72 00:03:04,542 --> 00:03:06,250 you know, complex locations, 73 00:03:06,375 --> 00:03:08,000 so we're looking forward to it. 74 00:03:08,125 --> 00:03:09,292 Tell 'em, Pete. 75 00:03:09,417 --> 00:03:11,708 I've lost three drones here. 76 00:03:11,875 --> 00:03:13,167 One over the triangle, 77 00:03:13,250 --> 00:03:15,083 where we'll be flying tonight. 78 00:03:15,208 --> 00:03:17,083 ERIK: It's worth mentioning that 79 00:03:17,208 --> 00:03:18,625 during some of our helicopter exercises, also, 80 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:21,417 we've had unusual, um, air current patterns. 81 00:03:21,542 --> 00:03:24,583 There was a lot of buffeting of the helicopter during our study 82 00:03:24,708 --> 00:03:26,167 of this anomaly that we're talking about 83 00:03:26,292 --> 00:03:27,917 in the vicinity of the triangle, 84 00:03:28,042 --> 00:03:29,542 so you might see the drones struggling to maintain position. 85 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:32,333 THOMAS: I don't think we've ever brought expert on 86 00:03:32,458 --> 00:03:34,333 where their equipment has operated 87 00:03:34,458 --> 00:03:35,625 the way that it was designed to operate, 88 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:39,042 and so if you have 89 00:03:39,167 --> 00:03:41,542 malfunctions, we need to know. 90 00:03:41,708 --> 00:03:43,583 Why don't you tell us a little bit about Sky Elements 91 00:03:43,708 --> 00:03:44,917 and what you guys do? 92 00:03:45,042 --> 00:03:47,417 So, we take, you know, 100, 200 drones, 93 00:03:47,542 --> 00:03:50,417 or even a thousand drones, and make a synchronized swarm 94 00:03:50,542 --> 00:03:53,167 to make all kinds of images or shapes or anything like that. 95 00:03:53,250 --> 00:03:54,833 I brought Kyle and Tyler out here with me 96 00:03:54,958 --> 00:03:57,583 to help manage everything and get this going today. 97 00:03:57,708 --> 00:03:58,708 Very cool. 98 00:03:58,833 --> 00:03:59,667 We've been wanting to fly 99 00:03:59,750 --> 00:04:01,708 a pattern of drones, uh, over certain 100 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,417 anomalies that we have. We have two specific anomalies. 101 00:04:04,542 --> 00:04:06,833 The east field and the one at the triangle. 102 00:04:06,958 --> 00:04:09,708 And the first place we want to start is the triangle. 103 00:04:09,875 --> 00:04:13,417 The idea of the experiment is to take Sky Elements' drones, 104 00:04:13,542 --> 00:04:15,750 which are typically used for huge light shows, 105 00:04:15,875 --> 00:04:18,375 and launch them over the triangle and the east field 106 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:20,167 to watch their illuminated formations 107 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:21,667 against the night sky. 108 00:04:21,792 --> 00:04:22,917 That will make it easy 109 00:04:23,042 --> 00:04:26,250 to see any deviations in their preprogrammed patterns 110 00:04:26,375 --> 00:04:27,667 and hopefully determine 111 00:04:27,792 --> 00:04:29,333 the exact location of the anomalies 112 00:04:29,458 --> 00:04:31,167 that we encountered last week, 113 00:04:31,250 --> 00:04:33,583 about 300 feet in the air. 114 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:37,417 The team from Sky Elements will fly the illuminated swarm 115 00:04:37,542 --> 00:04:40,458 of 200 drones in a huge rectangular formation 116 00:04:40,583 --> 00:04:44,625 over both locations, starting with the triangle. 117 00:04:44,750 --> 00:04:47,167 Erik is going to put GPS devices on the four drones 118 00:04:47,292 --> 00:04:49,583 placed at each corner of the swarm. 119 00:04:49,708 --> 00:04:52,417 This will help us monitor the drones' exact position 120 00:04:52,542 --> 00:04:55,000 above our target areas during the experiment, 121 00:04:55,167 --> 00:04:57,750 so if anything pushes the drones out of formation, 122 00:04:57,875 --> 00:05:00,458 or if something even crazier happens to them, 123 00:05:00,583 --> 00:05:03,500 those GPS trackers will hopefully help us 124 00:05:03,625 --> 00:05:05,417 pinpoint the location of any anomalies 125 00:05:05,542 --> 00:05:08,000 and figure out what they could be. 126 00:05:09,250 --> 00:05:10,833 PETE: I will be watching you from 127 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 the ground with a terrestrial laser scanner, 128 00:05:13,125 --> 00:05:15,958 so we will have visual and forensic 129 00:05:16,083 --> 00:05:19,625 point cloud data of your every move when we're done. 130 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:21,500 TRAVIS: So how many drones did you bring 131 00:05:21,625 --> 00:05:23,000 -with you tonight? -PRESTON: We brought 200 with us. 132 00:05:23,083 --> 00:05:25,000 200, and we're going to be able to fly them all at once? 133 00:05:25,167 --> 00:05:26,417 -Absolutely. -TRAVIS: All right, cool. 134 00:05:26,542 --> 00:05:29,458 In addition to the GPS data 135 00:05:29,542 --> 00:05:31,333 we're recording during the drone experiment, 136 00:05:31,458 --> 00:05:33,500 Pete Kelsey is going to conduct 137 00:05:33,583 --> 00:05:36,583 expansive ground-based 3D lidar scans 138 00:05:36,708 --> 00:05:38,917 with what's known as a terrestrial scanner. 139 00:05:40,042 --> 00:05:41,833 It emits infrared laser light 140 00:05:41,917 --> 00:05:44,500 that will create a detailed map of the target areas, 141 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:47,542 and at the same time, can help identify anomalies 142 00:05:47,667 --> 00:05:49,917 that the naked eye isn't able to see. 143 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:53,667 One more thing, uh, once we get out there, 144 00:05:53,792 --> 00:05:55,125 I kind of want to see what your flight plan is 145 00:05:55,208 --> 00:05:57,000 'cause I... also, we're going to launch 146 00:05:57,125 --> 00:05:58,708 a couple of rockets tonight, and I need to make sure 147 00:05:58,833 --> 00:06:00,917 we launch the rockets in a place where the recovery 148 00:06:01,042 --> 00:06:03,167 and the launch is going to be completely safe 149 00:06:03,333 --> 00:06:04,667 form-from your flight path. 150 00:06:04,750 --> 00:06:06,333 Absolutely. Once we get over there, 151 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:07,500 -I can show you all that. -All right. 152 00:06:07,583 --> 00:06:09,250 Well, I suggest we get out there 153 00:06:09,375 --> 00:06:10,500 and get all set up. We're losing daylight. 154 00:06:10,583 --> 00:06:11,708 TRAVIS: Let's do it. 155 00:06:16,625 --> 00:06:17,500 THOMAS: The opportunity 156 00:06:17,583 --> 00:06:18,542 to bring drones out here 157 00:06:18,667 --> 00:06:19,833 and put them up in the air 158 00:06:19,958 --> 00:06:23,083 is something I'm really excited to witness. 159 00:06:23,208 --> 00:06:24,500 We have a big job ahead of us. 160 00:06:24,583 --> 00:06:26,083 I mean, this is a big setup, 161 00:06:26,208 --> 00:06:29,083 and it requires a lot of people to make it work successfully. 162 00:06:29,208 --> 00:06:31,583 -MAN: All right, ready? -TRAVIS: We got to start getting your stuff out 163 00:06:31,708 --> 00:06:33,625 and lets figure out where you got to be. 164 00:06:33,708 --> 00:06:35,625 THOMAS: It's going to be interesting to see if these drones 165 00:06:35,708 --> 00:06:38,167 can keep their position, and if they don't 166 00:06:38,292 --> 00:06:39,417 start falling out of the sky 167 00:06:39,542 --> 00:06:40,667 like we've seen with other drones. 168 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:42,750 TRAVIS: Which way do they go? Like that? 169 00:06:44,083 --> 00:06:46,000 While we were getting everything set up 170 00:06:46,125 --> 00:06:48,042 at the triangle for the drone experiment... 171 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:54,083 TOM: Okay. 172 00:06:54,208 --> 00:06:55,500 TRAVIS: ...nearby, ranch manager 173 00:06:55,583 --> 00:06:57,417 Jim Morse, along with ranch caretakers 174 00:06:57,542 --> 00:06:59,333 Kandus Linde and Tom Lewis... 175 00:06:59,417 --> 00:07:00,958 -Hey. -How you doing? 176 00:07:01,042 --> 00:07:03,167 TRAVIS: ...were meeting with Lloyd Arrive, 177 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:06,083 a DJ at Native Voltage Rez Radio. 178 00:07:06,208 --> 00:07:08,167 Over the last four years, 179 00:07:08,292 --> 00:07:09,708 we've found that bizarre things happen 180 00:07:09,875 --> 00:07:12,458 outside the boundaries of Skinwalker Ranch, 181 00:07:12,583 --> 00:07:14,667 and Brandon Fugal had recently heard from Lloyd 182 00:07:14,750 --> 00:07:17,167 that he had quite a story to share 183 00:07:17,292 --> 00:07:18,625 about a place known as Bottle Hollow. 184 00:07:18,708 --> 00:07:20,417 It's a reservoir about 185 00:07:20,542 --> 00:07:21,708 a mile north of the ranch 186 00:07:21,833 --> 00:07:23,375 where a lot of strange phenomena 187 00:07:23,542 --> 00:07:25,125 have been reported in the past 188 00:07:25,208 --> 00:07:26,792 by local residents. 189 00:07:28,708 --> 00:07:30,500 KANDUS: So, how long have you lived out here? 190 00:07:30,583 --> 00:07:34,208 LLOYD: Well, I lived here when I was a little kid 191 00:07:34,333 --> 00:07:35,167 with my grandpa and grandma. 192 00:07:35,250 --> 00:07:36,250 So you're Ute? 193 00:07:36,375 --> 00:07:37,833 I'm Ute. Yeah. I'm Northern Ute. 194 00:07:37,917 --> 00:07:39,333 I'm Uncompahgre, 195 00:07:39,417 --> 00:07:40,667 -Northern Ute. -JIM: Okay, fantastic. 196 00:07:40,792 --> 00:07:42,917 So, you understand the genealogy 197 00:07:43,042 --> 00:07:46,333 or the lineage here associated with the Navajo and the Ute, 198 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:49,708 and the Navajo cursing the ground out here and... 199 00:07:49,875 --> 00:07:51,500 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, uh, just... 200 00:07:51,583 --> 00:07:53,833 You know, the stories that goes on 201 00:07:53,958 --> 00:07:56,708 with the... with the Natives or with the Utes around here. 202 00:07:58,625 --> 00:08:01,875 The lore of the skinwalker really initiated 203 00:08:02,042 --> 00:08:03,500 back in the mid-1800s. 204 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:06,750 This is when the Navajo and the Utes 205 00:08:06,875 --> 00:08:09,250 got into... more than a skirmish. 206 00:08:09,375 --> 00:08:13,500 The Navajos ended up cursing the Utes with the skinwalker, 207 00:08:13,625 --> 00:08:16,292 a transformation of a human being 208 00:08:16,375 --> 00:08:18,500 into an animal form. 209 00:08:18,625 --> 00:08:21,542 Some Native Americans don't talk about it 210 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:24,375 because they don't want that curse put on them. 211 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:27,042 So there's a level, not only of just respect, 212 00:08:27,167 --> 00:08:31,208 but fear of this lore. 213 00:08:32,542 --> 00:08:34,875 Well, we over there at the, uh, Skinwalker Ranch 214 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,125 are very respectful. 215 00:08:36,208 --> 00:08:37,333 We're out here as guests, 216 00:08:37,417 --> 00:08:38,792 and so we appreciate 217 00:08:38,917 --> 00:08:40,792 any kind of feedback that you can give us. 218 00:08:40,917 --> 00:08:43,083 -Yeah. -So, it's my understanding 219 00:08:43,208 --> 00:08:44,750 that you got some photographs 220 00:08:44,875 --> 00:08:48,042 to show us that you captured over by Bottle Hollow? 221 00:08:48,167 --> 00:08:49,875 Yes, I did, and, uh, 222 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,083 I created an event 223 00:08:51,208 --> 00:08:53,750 that I set up on Bottle Hollow and played music 224 00:08:53,875 --> 00:08:55,667 on a Fourth of July weekend. 225 00:08:55,833 --> 00:08:59,625 We were, um, tearing down the equipment, 226 00:08:59,708 --> 00:09:01,958 and this lady that lives on the other side of the lake there, 227 00:09:02,083 --> 00:09:05,042 she invited us to go get some food. 228 00:09:05,167 --> 00:09:06,292 So, we were on our way down, 229 00:09:06,417 --> 00:09:09,292 and we noticed the, uh, noticed the, uh, 230 00:09:09,375 --> 00:09:10,583 canopy up there. 231 00:09:10,708 --> 00:09:13,042 It was a quick snap. 232 00:09:14,875 --> 00:09:16,792 We noticed that dot, you know, 233 00:09:16,875 --> 00:09:18,833 -on top of it. -JIM: Oh, wow. 234 00:09:18,917 --> 00:09:20,208 LLOYD: But it didn't come toward us, 235 00:09:20,333 --> 00:09:21,417 it just went around, 236 00:09:21,542 --> 00:09:23,958 and it headed towards the Skinwalker. 237 00:09:24,042 --> 00:09:25,875 Wow. 238 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:28,042 JIM: Amazing. 239 00:09:32,125 --> 00:09:34,167 And it was up there, 240 00:09:34,250 --> 00:09:35,292 and that's where it hovered. 241 00:09:35,417 --> 00:09:36,333 Went back and forth, 242 00:09:36,458 --> 00:09:39,208 and then finally it just disappeared. 243 00:09:39,333 --> 00:09:40,833 TOM: Did it make any sound that you could hear? 244 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,458 LLOYD: No, no, no. It's not a plane, 245 00:09:43,542 --> 00:09:45,375 it's not a helicopter, 246 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:48,167 it's just a... an object that's up there. 247 00:09:49,375 --> 00:09:51,167 JIM: That's pretty profound. 248 00:09:51,292 --> 00:09:52,417 We see those 249 00:09:52,542 --> 00:09:54,833 from time to time over on Skinwalker. 250 00:09:54,958 --> 00:09:56,500 Yeah. 251 00:09:56,625 --> 00:09:57,625 TOM: I look at this photo 252 00:09:57,750 --> 00:09:59,458 he brings up on his computer 253 00:09:59,542 --> 00:10:01,625 and immediately you can see 254 00:10:01,750 --> 00:10:04,583 this is a UAP of some sort. 255 00:10:04,708 --> 00:10:07,792 And it's very similar to the one that we saw 256 00:10:07,875 --> 00:10:11,167 right above the cow that died on the ranch four years ago. 257 00:10:11,292 --> 00:10:13,208 So, connections like this 258 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:15,250 that we're looking for in the surrounding community 259 00:10:15,375 --> 00:10:18,708 may help us with the investigation on the ranch. 260 00:10:19,875 --> 00:10:22,750 So, when you took this photograph, you were what, 261 00:10:22,875 --> 00:10:23,958 maybe a quarter mile away from the lake? 262 00:10:24,042 --> 00:10:25,583 -LLOYD: Yeah, yeah. -From Bottle Hollow? 263 00:10:25,708 --> 00:10:27,125 -Yeah. -KANDUS: You said it was Sunday morning. 264 00:10:27,208 --> 00:10:28,833 Was it in the morning? 265 00:10:28,958 --> 00:10:30,667 It was in the afternoon. It was the afternoon... 266 00:10:30,750 --> 00:10:32,458 -Huh. -...that-that it was there. 267 00:10:32,542 --> 00:10:35,375 Is there anything else that you've seen 268 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,375 in this area around Bottle Hollow? 269 00:10:38,542 --> 00:10:39,750 Yeah. 270 00:10:41,042 --> 00:10:42,500 One night we were coming up here, 271 00:10:42,583 --> 00:10:43,625 me and my nephew. 272 00:10:43,708 --> 00:10:44,958 His name is Isaac. 273 00:10:45,083 --> 00:10:48,208 And we come up on, uh, Bottle Hollow. 274 00:10:48,333 --> 00:10:52,208 And we seen a bright light from the same area 275 00:10:52,375 --> 00:10:54,458 where this was, but it was in the evening time, 276 00:10:54,542 --> 00:10:57,417 so I was, like, flashing my car light, 277 00:10:57,542 --> 00:10:59,875 just messing around, but it flashed back. 278 00:11:00,917 --> 00:11:02,208 Then it turned into, like, 279 00:11:02,375 --> 00:11:04,875 a red, glowing orb. 280 00:11:05,917 --> 00:11:07,833 It was just going so slow. 281 00:11:07,958 --> 00:11:09,917 -It was weird. -JIM: Yeah, yeah. 282 00:11:10,042 --> 00:11:12,375 TOM: It's just becoming more and more clear 283 00:11:12,542 --> 00:11:13,833 and evident that Bottle Hollow 284 00:11:13,958 --> 00:11:16,042 is a unique and special place. 285 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,417 It's very close to the ranch. 286 00:11:19,542 --> 00:11:24,000 There's obviously some sort of connection to the ranch, 287 00:11:24,125 --> 00:11:27,292 and it deserves more research. 288 00:11:28,542 --> 00:11:29,917 JIM: Well, Lloyd, I appreciate 289 00:11:30,042 --> 00:11:31,625 that you reached out to us 290 00:11:31,708 --> 00:11:33,167 and wanted to-to share. 291 00:11:33,292 --> 00:11:35,625 KANDUS: Yeah, because we've met so many locals, 292 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:37,667 and some that are willing to share their stories, 293 00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:40,458 but not so much with the public. 294 00:11:40,542 --> 00:11:42,958 I believe there's a lot of Natives that are out there 295 00:11:43,083 --> 00:11:44,667 that are willing to talk with you, 296 00:11:44,833 --> 00:11:47,667 you know, and I can plug that 297 00:11:47,792 --> 00:11:49,625 in to my radio station too, 298 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:51,667 to have them get in contact with you guys. 299 00:11:51,792 --> 00:11:53,042 -Okay, that works. -Yeah. 300 00:11:53,167 --> 00:11:54,792 You know, I can do it, like, right now. 301 00:11:54,875 --> 00:11:55,667 -KANDUS: Okay. -TOM: You can do it right now? 302 00:11:55,792 --> 00:11:57,333 Excellent. 303 00:11:59,208 --> 00:12:02,167 TOM: Lloyd offered to put out a message 304 00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:04,292 on his radio station, 305 00:12:04,375 --> 00:12:07,125 calling for people to come forward with their stories, 306 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:09,292 and that's very valuable. 307 00:12:09,417 --> 00:12:11,667 I'd like to give out, uh, 308 00:12:11,792 --> 00:12:13,500 information to anyone out there 309 00:12:13,625 --> 00:12:14,958 within the reservation 310 00:12:15,083 --> 00:12:18,167 that would like to get in contact with Skinwalker Ranch. 311 00:12:18,292 --> 00:12:21,417 If you've seen anything around Bottle Hollow 312 00:12:21,542 --> 00:12:24,708 or any phenomenon within the basin, 313 00:12:24,833 --> 00:12:26,417 get in contact and share your stories. 314 00:12:26,542 --> 00:12:29,625 TOM: People aren't so willing, right now anyway, 315 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:32,500 to share their stories in an official way, 316 00:12:32,625 --> 00:12:34,542 but with Lloyd's help, 317 00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:35,917 that will change. 318 00:12:36,042 --> 00:12:37,333 And thanks for listening 319 00:12:37,458 --> 00:12:39,000 to Native Voltage Rez Radio 320 00:12:39,125 --> 00:12:40,667 90.3 FM. 321 00:12:40,792 --> 00:12:42,667 -Cool. -Thank you very much. 322 00:12:42,792 --> 00:12:44,792 Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. 323 00:12:44,917 --> 00:12:46,792 Yeah, thanks, it's been a pleasure. 324 00:12:46,875 --> 00:12:48,292 It's been a pleasure, Lloyd. 325 00:12:48,375 --> 00:12:51,208 -KANDUS: We'll see you. -LLOYD: Yes, thank you. 326 00:13:02,083 --> 00:13:03,583 KYLE: I got to tape our GPS modules, 327 00:13:03,708 --> 00:13:04,792 and then we are going to do the experiment. 328 00:13:04,917 --> 00:13:06,125 So we're going to go over here 329 00:13:06,208 --> 00:13:07,042 -and get it all done. -All right, fantastic. 330 00:13:07,208 --> 00:13:08,208 TRAVIS: Once the sun went down, 331 00:13:08,375 --> 00:13:10,708 we were finally ready to begin our experiment 332 00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:13,750 at the 300-foot altitude above the triangle. 333 00:13:15,042 --> 00:13:16,792 As the team from Sky Elements did their final check 334 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:18,417 on the 200 drones... 335 00:13:20,125 --> 00:13:22,375 Erik and I finished securing the GPS devices. 336 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:23,750 ERIK: Perfect. 337 00:13:23,875 --> 00:13:25,208 This will be interesting. 338 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:26,500 And I'll... pretty much 339 00:13:26,625 --> 00:13:28,083 guarantee it's never 340 00:13:28,208 --> 00:13:30,458 -been tried before. -Oh, I'd agree with that. 341 00:13:30,583 --> 00:13:34,167 TRAVIS: And Pete Kelsey got his lidar device ready to begin 342 00:13:34,250 --> 00:13:36,417 scanning the drones once they were launched. 343 00:13:36,542 --> 00:13:38,333 PETE: Here we go. 344 00:13:38,458 --> 00:13:40,125 TYLER: I'm really excited to see the data we get from that, 345 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:41,458 I think it's going to be really cool. 346 00:13:43,542 --> 00:13:44,833 KYLE: Hey, how's it going? 347 00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:46,167 Oh, we're getting there. 348 00:13:46,292 --> 00:13:47,375 We're about ready, how are y'all doing? 349 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:49,458 Trying to make sure everything runs smooth. 350 00:13:49,542 --> 00:13:51,875 For now, everything looks like it's good to go. 351 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,542 -We are ready to fly. -ERIK: Fantastic. 352 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:55,792 Drones armed. 353 00:13:55,875 --> 00:13:57,792 Turning on lights. 354 00:13:58,875 --> 00:14:00,208 Lights are on. 355 00:14:00,333 --> 00:14:02,000 TRAVIS: All right, we have drones armed guys. 356 00:14:02,083 --> 00:14:03,792 All right, we're good here. 357 00:14:03,917 --> 00:14:06,458 PRESTON: Five, four, 358 00:14:06,542 --> 00:14:09,833 three, two, one. 359 00:14:09,917 --> 00:14:12,125 TRAVIS: Oh, wow. 360 00:14:12,208 --> 00:14:13,792 Look at that. 361 00:14:17,875 --> 00:14:19,458 Look at that. 362 00:14:21,292 --> 00:14:25,042 ERIK: Okay, I'm broadcasting 1.6 gigahertz. 363 00:14:25,208 --> 00:14:27,500 TRAVIS: Right after the drones were launched, 364 00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:31,583 Erik started broadcasting the 1.6 gigahertz frequency signal 365 00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:35,125 that we've recorded on the ranch during our previous experiments. 366 00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:38,500 All right, we'll be back after we launch the rocket. 367 00:14:38,583 --> 00:14:39,542 -Okay. -TRAVIS: Let's go. 368 00:14:39,708 --> 00:14:41,958 And then, Thomas and I 369 00:14:42,042 --> 00:14:43,750 headed to a position just west of the triangle, 370 00:14:43,875 --> 00:14:46,500 so we could get a rocket ready to launch. 371 00:14:47,875 --> 00:14:49,167 Both of these tools seem to have 372 00:14:49,333 --> 00:14:52,375 stimulated phenomena to occur in the past, 373 00:14:52,542 --> 00:14:54,833 so we wanted to see how it might affect the drone swarm. 374 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,042 TYLER: They just moved into place. 375 00:14:58,208 --> 00:15:00,792 -Look how tight they are. -Yep, yep. 376 00:15:00,917 --> 00:15:03,375 PETE: That looks perfect. 377 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,083 TYLER: All right, we're ready to roll. 378 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,250 PRESTON: Show's rolling. 379 00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:11,958 -PETE: They're moving. -KALEB: Yep. 380 00:15:15,292 --> 00:15:18,000 TREVOR: Should be just about over the triangle here, guys. 381 00:15:19,083 --> 00:15:20,333 THOMAS: Hey, look right here. 382 00:15:20,458 --> 00:15:21,875 -TRAVIS: What we got? -THOMAS: Hey, look. 383 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,583 We've got drones that are out of sequence. 384 00:15:24,708 --> 00:15:26,500 TRAVIS: Yeah, we do. There are several in a line 385 00:15:26,625 --> 00:15:27,542 right down the middle of it! 386 00:15:28,875 --> 00:15:29,875 Hey, Erik? 387 00:15:30,042 --> 00:15:32,458 Yeah, go ahead, Travis. 388 00:15:32,542 --> 00:15:34,583 TRAVIS: There are several drones out of line 389 00:15:34,708 --> 00:15:35,792 we can see from our perspective. 390 00:15:35,917 --> 00:15:38,167 They are clearly out of place. 391 00:15:38,333 --> 00:15:41,042 Yeah, we've got eyes on that. 392 00:15:42,333 --> 00:15:44,000 TRAVIS: When the 200 drones were first launched, 393 00:15:44,125 --> 00:15:47,042 their preprogrammed formation looked perfect. 394 00:15:47,167 --> 00:15:48,917 They were all in a tight, uniform pattern, 395 00:15:49,042 --> 00:15:50,417 and lit up beautifully. 396 00:15:50,542 --> 00:15:51,667 Where are they? 397 00:15:51,792 --> 00:15:53,083 ERIK: The pattern is directly 398 00:15:53,208 --> 00:15:54,500 over the triangle right now, Travis. 399 00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,542 KALEB: They're going right through the anomaly. 400 00:15:56,708 --> 00:15:59,167 TRAVIS: But then, right when they reached 401 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:01,208 the 300-foot spot above the triangle, 402 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:03,125 several of them were clearly 403 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:05,167 diverted out of formation by something. 404 00:16:09,208 --> 00:16:10,792 PRESTON: Our drones use very sophisticated GPS's, 405 00:16:10,917 --> 00:16:12,000 we have a Wi-Fi network, 406 00:16:12,125 --> 00:16:13,625 we have a redundant RF network. 407 00:16:13,708 --> 00:16:17,042 These are precise positionings that we maintain. 408 00:16:17,167 --> 00:16:18,333 So having those drones out of position 409 00:16:18,458 --> 00:16:20,333 in that grid pattern was something very unusual. 410 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:25,167 Hey, uh, Tyler, I just lost three drones, 411 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,000 losing four, losing five. 412 00:16:27,125 --> 00:16:28,958 Well, how many drones do you have connected? 413 00:16:30,542 --> 00:16:32,333 I have 80 disconnected. 414 00:16:34,542 --> 00:16:36,042 Uh-oh, fail safe. 415 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:39,208 Look at that. 416 00:16:40,458 --> 00:16:42,125 -ERIK: What is this? -TYLER: They're coming home. 417 00:16:42,208 --> 00:16:44,083 Hey, guys, everybody stand by close to the grid. 418 00:16:44,208 --> 00:16:45,917 We need to get these guys unplugged quick. 419 00:16:46,042 --> 00:16:49,167 KYLE: I've never seen that. 420 00:16:49,292 --> 00:16:52,167 Something happened because those drones 421 00:16:52,292 --> 00:16:53,708 had to return to the ground unexpectedly. 422 00:16:53,833 --> 00:16:56,667 So they all landed way sooner than they were supposed to. 423 00:16:56,792 --> 00:16:58,792 It's nothing that I can explain. 424 00:16:58,917 --> 00:17:00,167 THOMAS: Let's head back over there. 425 00:17:00,292 --> 00:17:01,667 TRAVIS: All right, lets head back. 426 00:17:01,750 --> 00:17:05,125 KYLE: We've only seen those drones return to home 427 00:17:05,208 --> 00:17:07,375 like that in extreme temperatures, 428 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:10,792 when we're working in the snow or the excess heat, 429 00:17:10,917 --> 00:17:13,750 when those batteries are really getting pushed to the limit. 430 00:17:13,875 --> 00:17:15,542 But out here on Skinwalker Ranch, 431 00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:17,625 we only saw about 60 degrees at the lowest, 432 00:17:17,708 --> 00:17:20,250 and it's nothing that should have happened. 433 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:22,333 Something interesting we're seeing. 434 00:17:22,458 --> 00:17:24,667 Um, it appears the batteries are 435 00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:27,125 draining quicker than usual, than what we usually see. 436 00:17:27,208 --> 00:17:28,667 How much quicker? 437 00:17:28,792 --> 00:17:30,167 TYLER: I don't know that I can quantify it, 438 00:17:30,292 --> 00:17:31,625 but I just noticed that some of them 439 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:33,125 seem to be decreasing quicker than usual. 440 00:17:33,208 --> 00:17:36,458 Wow. Well, then maybe we need to fly quick. 441 00:17:36,542 --> 00:17:38,375 PRESTON: So Erik warned us that weird things 442 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:39,833 happened with the electronics, 443 00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:41,833 and we're very confident in our systems, 444 00:17:41,958 --> 00:17:43,292 we've done hundreds of drone shows, 445 00:17:43,375 --> 00:17:45,292 but there is definitely something going on here 446 00:17:45,375 --> 00:17:47,000 that affects the batteries, the drone positioning, 447 00:17:47,125 --> 00:17:49,708 all kinds of things that are just very unusual 448 00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:50,958 and very unexplainable. 449 00:17:51,083 --> 00:17:52,792 So we have a couple of options 450 00:17:52,875 --> 00:17:54,208 for what we can fly next. 451 00:17:54,333 --> 00:17:55,917 We can fly the grid again 452 00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:57,542 and see if we see the exact same behaviors. 453 00:17:57,667 --> 00:18:00,125 TRAVIS: Repeatability is really good. 454 00:18:00,208 --> 00:18:01,208 We would do the exact same thing. 455 00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:02,667 We still got a rocket ready to go. 456 00:18:02,833 --> 00:18:05,292 Uh, yes, I agree, repeatability. 457 00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:07,958 Given what we've seen and how unusual it is, 458 00:18:08,083 --> 00:18:09,875 I'd love to see if it would happen again. 459 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,667 Oh, yeah. 460 00:18:12,958 --> 00:18:13,792 TYLER: All right, drones are ready. 461 00:18:13,875 --> 00:18:15,417 Let's roll. 462 00:18:15,542 --> 00:18:16,625 Preston, whenever you're ready. 463 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:17,708 All right. 464 00:18:22,083 --> 00:18:23,208 Oh, there they are. 465 00:18:23,375 --> 00:18:24,583 -I see them. -There we go. 466 00:18:26,292 --> 00:18:28,583 -THOMAS: Oh, that is cool. -TRAVIS: Yeah, that is cool. 467 00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:31,583 We are hot. 468 00:18:31,708 --> 00:18:33,833 The rocket is armed and ready to launch. 469 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,208 Copy you. 470 00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:39,458 THOMAS: In three, two, one... 471 00:18:42,250 --> 00:18:44,167 Rocket just went, guys. 472 00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,792 THOMAS: Oh, there goes... Oh, oh, look at them. 473 00:18:47,875 --> 00:18:49,625 Oh, one's fall... One's falling! One's falling! 474 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,375 (overlapping shouting) 475 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,375 -TRAVIS: Holy cow, look at that! -THOMAS: There goes another one! 476 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,292 TRAVIS: They're not coming down. Are they bringing them down? 477 00:18:57,417 --> 00:18:58,542 KALEB: Whoa, that one's way... Whoa. 478 00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:01,500 Whoa, what's-what's going on there? 479 00:19:01,583 --> 00:19:03,333 PRESTON: I've lost all of them, 480 00:19:03,458 --> 00:19:05,083 almost all of them disconnected right now. 481 00:19:11,875 --> 00:19:13,292 It's going crazy. Look at it. 482 00:19:13,375 --> 00:19:15,083 Way out. Look at that. 483 00:19:15,208 --> 00:19:16,792 Just as soon as the swarm of drones 484 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:19,000 flew over the triangle, something interfered 485 00:19:19,083 --> 00:19:20,583 with their controls, and inexplicably 486 00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:21,958 altered their formation, 487 00:19:22,042 --> 00:19:24,625 which Tyler and the team from Sky Elements 488 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:27,167 had never experienced before. Ever. 489 00:19:27,292 --> 00:19:29,292 This is really something... 490 00:19:29,417 --> 00:19:31,083 KALEB: You can see them moving, 491 00:19:31,208 --> 00:19:32,625 trying to stabilize themselves. 492 00:19:32,750 --> 00:19:34,292 TYLER: The amount of variability we saw, 493 00:19:34,375 --> 00:19:36,500 specifically in the front and middle of that grid, 494 00:19:36,583 --> 00:19:38,000 is not something we're used to seeing. 495 00:19:38,125 --> 00:19:39,333 We saw almost all of them disconnect, 496 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:41,042 which is not something we've ever seen before. 497 00:19:41,208 --> 00:19:42,333 TRAVIS: Oh, look, did you see the lines 498 00:19:42,417 --> 00:19:43,500 suddenly straightened out? 499 00:19:43,625 --> 00:19:44,792 I think they're moving to the south. 500 00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:45,792 Is that what they're doing? 501 00:19:45,917 --> 00:19:47,833 -It's straightened up. -It's getting better. 502 00:19:47,958 --> 00:19:50,125 TYLER: 30 seconds to landing. 503 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:51,833 TRAVIS: Something over the triangle clearly caused it, 504 00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:53,125 because as soon as the drones 505 00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:54,958 left that area to land, 506 00:19:55,042 --> 00:19:57,333 they immediately came back online 507 00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:00,375 and reassembled in their preprogrammed formation. 508 00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:04,042 We could "what if" all night, 509 00:20:04,208 --> 00:20:05,208 but what we have now is data. 510 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:06,833 We have data that says 511 00:20:06,958 --> 00:20:08,667 there's something weird there. 512 00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:10,417 -Yeah. -TRAVIS: You know, we've done 513 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,292 so many experiments trying to just get 514 00:20:12,417 --> 00:20:14,125 a handle on what could be causing the anomaly. 515 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:15,875 We've shined big lasers through it, 516 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,500 we've fired rockets through it, 517 00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:19,042 we've flown around it with lidar 518 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:22,042 and GPS and all sorts of things, 519 00:20:22,167 --> 00:20:24,333 and every single time we do something, 520 00:20:24,458 --> 00:20:28,833 we seem to find some effect on our experimental system. 521 00:20:28,958 --> 00:20:31,625 So, uh, there's no explanation 522 00:20:31,708 --> 00:20:35,375 that really fits unless it's some magic physics 523 00:20:35,542 --> 00:20:37,833 that we don't understand that's happening 524 00:20:37,958 --> 00:20:39,625 very localized up there. 525 00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:41,000 For sure. 526 00:20:41,125 --> 00:20:42,208 I'm anxious to fly similar patterns, 527 00:20:42,375 --> 00:20:43,458 if not exactly the same pattern, 528 00:20:43,583 --> 00:20:46,042 in another interesting location on the ranch 529 00:20:46,167 --> 00:20:47,833 off to the east, where we've seen 530 00:20:47,958 --> 00:20:51,417 some very interesting effects in our surveys. 531 00:20:51,542 --> 00:20:53,167 -Let's do it. -Yeah, let's... 532 00:20:53,292 --> 00:20:56,917 TRAVIS: After what we saw happen to the drone swarm at the triangle, 533 00:20:57,042 --> 00:20:58,333 we couldn't wait to move 534 00:20:58,458 --> 00:21:00,833 about a half a mile over to the east field 535 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,250 to run the experiment again. 536 00:21:02,375 --> 00:21:04,083 Since we've also detected 537 00:21:04,208 --> 00:21:06,917 aerial anomalies there in the past, 538 00:21:07,042 --> 00:21:08,375 we were hoping to get more clues 539 00:21:08,542 --> 00:21:10,167 about what could be causing 540 00:21:10,333 --> 00:21:12,083 all these crazy phenomena on the ranch. 541 00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:14,792 THOMAS: Where we're set up right here 542 00:21:14,875 --> 00:21:16,500 is almost exactly underneath the anomaly 543 00:21:16,667 --> 00:21:17,833 that your photogrammetry showed. 544 00:21:17,958 --> 00:21:19,750 Now when he came out 545 00:21:19,875 --> 00:21:22,583 and did a photogrammetry scan of this area, 546 00:21:22,708 --> 00:21:26,250 for some reason there were multiple pictures showing 547 00:21:26,375 --> 00:21:27,625 some type of spire 548 00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:30,042 that went up into the air several hundred feet. 549 00:21:30,208 --> 00:21:31,250 So there have been anomalies captured 550 00:21:31,375 --> 00:21:34,250 in two different times here, a year apart. 551 00:21:34,375 --> 00:21:37,208 One year ago, using photogrammetry 552 00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:39,958 above the east field, Pete Kelsey detected 553 00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:42,250 a massive pillar-shaped anomaly. 554 00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:43,500 Just last week, 555 00:21:43,625 --> 00:21:45,333 when Pete scanned the same area 556 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:48,083 with a lidar device from Brandon's helicopter, 557 00:21:48,208 --> 00:21:50,042 we were stunned when he detected 558 00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:52,292 something nearly 300 feet in the air, 559 00:21:52,417 --> 00:21:54,333 which matched up perfectly 560 00:21:54,458 --> 00:21:55,750 with the top of the pillar. 561 00:21:55,875 --> 00:21:57,083 ERIK: I say we get these things in the air. 562 00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:58,208 -Yeah, great. -Let's get it going. 563 00:21:58,375 --> 00:21:59,542 All right. 564 00:22:01,708 --> 00:22:03,125 Let's hook the ignitor up. 565 00:22:03,208 --> 00:22:05,917 TYLER: 30 seconds to takeoff. 566 00:22:06,042 --> 00:22:07,667 30 seconds, guys! 567 00:22:09,458 --> 00:22:10,708 TYLER: Ten seconds to lift. 568 00:22:12,042 --> 00:22:13,208 PETE: Oh, (bleep). 569 00:22:13,333 --> 00:22:15,083 TYLER: Had one go early. 570 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:16,458 Yeah, I was going to say. What the... 571 00:22:16,583 --> 00:22:18,125 MAN: I've never seen that. 572 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:19,500 What... 573 00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:20,500 (overlapping chatter) 574 00:22:20,625 --> 00:22:22,208 TRAVIS: Inexplicably, 575 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,250 before Preston launched the drone swarm, 576 00:22:24,375 --> 00:22:26,500 one just took off on its own, 577 00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:29,667 and ascended to its preprogrammed position. 578 00:22:29,792 --> 00:22:31,958 KYLE: I've never seen that, GPS is on. 579 00:22:32,042 --> 00:22:33,833 TRAVIS: Stay with it. 580 00:22:35,583 --> 00:22:36,625 PRESTON: Remainder of takeoff. 581 00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:38,583 TRAVIS: Hey, hey, here we go. 582 00:22:39,667 --> 00:22:41,292 KALEB: They had one go early, Travis. 583 00:22:41,375 --> 00:22:43,333 TRAVIS: I saw that. 584 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:44,917 It's up there flying around by itself, 585 00:22:45,042 --> 00:22:46,000 -ain't it? -KALEB: Yep. 586 00:22:46,125 --> 00:22:48,083 TRAVIS: One of them's acting... 587 00:22:48,208 --> 00:22:49,333 Oh, look it flew up to it. 588 00:22:49,458 --> 00:22:50,833 Hey, we got holes. 589 00:22:50,917 --> 00:22:52,333 Yeah, we got... How many? 590 00:22:53,708 --> 00:22:56,292 Once the swarm launched and joined 591 00:22:56,417 --> 00:22:58,208 the one that went rogue, almost immediately, 592 00:22:58,375 --> 00:22:59,958 several of them went offline 593 00:23:00,083 --> 00:23:01,792 and fell out of formation. 594 00:23:01,917 --> 00:23:04,083 Four, I think there's four missing. Five. 595 00:23:04,208 --> 00:23:06,500 It made me think it could be connected to the anomaly 596 00:23:06,583 --> 00:23:08,417 that we've repeatedly detected there. 597 00:23:08,542 --> 00:23:10,458 So, I wanted to see if we could stimulate 598 00:23:10,542 --> 00:23:11,792 some hard evidence to prove it. 599 00:23:11,875 --> 00:23:14,750 Rocket's going hot. Everybody clear the rocket. 600 00:23:14,875 --> 00:23:16,667 Armed. 601 00:23:16,792 --> 00:23:18,167 Ignition in five, 602 00:23:18,292 --> 00:23:19,417 four, 603 00:23:19,542 --> 00:23:21,333 three, two, one. 604 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:22,583 MAN: Rocket's going. 605 00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:31,042 TRAVIS: Where's the chute? There it goes, there we go. 606 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,833 THOMAS: I mean that's a pretty nice, tight formation right there. 607 00:23:35,958 --> 00:23:37,625 TYLER: It's a lot tighter than we were seeing in the other location. 608 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:38,500 TRAVIS: Yeah, yeah, near the triangle. 609 00:23:38,667 --> 00:23:40,500 It wasn't like that. 610 00:23:41,708 --> 00:23:44,000 Oh, you can start to see some wiggle in the middle. 611 00:23:45,708 --> 00:23:46,667 TYLER: Yeah, right in the middle. 612 00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:47,833 TRAVIS: Yeah, look in the middle. 613 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,458 Look in the middle, guys. The drones are kind of 614 00:23:50,583 --> 00:23:53,000 wiggling around. There's no wind at all. 615 00:23:53,167 --> 00:23:54,875 All right, as you come this way, 616 00:23:55,042 --> 00:23:57,000 look, the ones in the middle got stable again. 617 00:23:57,167 --> 00:23:59,000 So, when we were right over there, 618 00:23:59,167 --> 00:24:00,833 there was some instability. 619 00:24:00,958 --> 00:24:03,167 That's right where you were at in the helicopter, right? 620 00:24:03,292 --> 00:24:04,500 Yeah, you're exactly right. 621 00:24:04,625 --> 00:24:06,375 THOMAS: The closer that these drones flew 622 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:07,875 to this anomaly up in the air, 623 00:24:08,042 --> 00:24:10,500 the more interference they were experiencing, 624 00:24:10,625 --> 00:24:13,500 the harder time they had staying in their pattern. 625 00:24:13,667 --> 00:24:15,333 It'll be interesting to see what kind of data 626 00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,542 we get from Erik and his GPS sensors, 627 00:24:17,667 --> 00:24:20,125 from Pete and his terrestrial scanner, 628 00:24:20,208 --> 00:24:22,875 as well as the data from Pete's drone up above. 629 00:24:23,042 --> 00:24:24,750 KALEB: We got something right there. 630 00:24:24,875 --> 00:24:26,750 TRAVIS: Right where, right where? 631 00:24:26,875 --> 00:24:28,500 Right... Right where my light's at. 632 00:24:28,667 --> 00:24:30,167 TRAVIS: Yeah, it is. That's it right there. 633 00:24:30,292 --> 00:24:32,083 KALEB: Travis. 634 00:24:32,208 --> 00:24:34,167 This just changed direction! 635 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:35,833 TRAVIS: What is it? 636 00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:41,583 TRAVIS: There it is, there it is right there. 637 00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:42,625 There's a thing 638 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:44,250 hovering over the launch site. 639 00:24:44,375 --> 00:24:46,125 ERIK: Wow. 640 00:24:47,333 --> 00:24:48,208 TRAVIS: Right there. 641 00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:50,292 KALEB: That's crazy. 642 00:24:50,375 --> 00:24:52,083 TRAVIS: It just disappeared. 643 00:24:52,208 --> 00:24:53,583 It went up into the cloud. 644 00:24:55,208 --> 00:24:57,000 PRESTON: They're coming back. 645 00:24:57,083 --> 00:24:58,792 TYLER: Yeah, they're moving down now. 646 00:24:58,875 --> 00:24:59,917 TRAVIS: One of the brightest UAPs 647 00:25:00,042 --> 00:25:02,833 I've ever seen on the ranch appeared 648 00:25:02,958 --> 00:25:04,375 and moved slowly across the sky 649 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,000 for several seconds, 650 00:25:06,083 --> 00:25:07,458 but then it just vanished. 651 00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:09,333 -It was bright. -It was really bright. 652 00:25:09,417 --> 00:25:11,208 So where... did it disappear? 653 00:25:11,375 --> 00:25:12,417 TRAVIS: It came from the west 654 00:25:12,542 --> 00:25:13,458 and then it looked like 655 00:25:13,583 --> 00:25:14,375 it was below the cloud. 656 00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:15,833 And it disappeared. 657 00:25:15,958 --> 00:25:17,833 Hey, guys, what do we have going on? 658 00:25:17,958 --> 00:25:18,833 Y'all didn't happen to see the thing overhead 659 00:25:18,958 --> 00:25:20,833 just a few minutes ago, did you? 660 00:25:20,958 --> 00:25:22,458 -I actually did, yeah. -TRAVIS: You saw it? 661 00:25:22,583 --> 00:25:23,750 -Yeah. -We saw it, yeah. 662 00:25:23,875 --> 00:25:25,167 We both saw it. It was really bright, 663 00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:26,833 It was actually really low. It didn't really add up. 664 00:25:26,958 --> 00:25:28,417 It was like below the clouds. 665 00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:29,708 -TYLER: I agree. -Yeah. 666 00:25:29,875 --> 00:25:31,125 And then it looked like it went into the cloud 667 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:32,375 and then it never came out the other side. 668 00:25:32,542 --> 00:25:33,500 TRAVIS: And it never came out. 669 00:25:33,625 --> 00:25:34,625 I've got a question for you. 670 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:36,167 You described something 671 00:25:36,292 --> 00:25:37,125 unusual that happened. 672 00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:39,500 Can you go through that again? 673 00:25:39,667 --> 00:25:40,917 We've never seen it where 674 00:25:41,042 --> 00:25:42,875 we can see that all the drones are connected, 675 00:25:43,042 --> 00:25:44,625 but we can't communicate with them in some form or fashion. 676 00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:47,458 KYLE: What was also very interesting 677 00:25:47,583 --> 00:25:49,542 was on this last flight, we had one drone 678 00:25:49,667 --> 00:25:52,792 start right before all the others, 679 00:25:52,917 --> 00:25:53,833 and we've never seen that. 680 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,458 They all go together. They all have 681 00:25:55,583 --> 00:25:56,708 the same signal. 682 00:25:56,833 --> 00:25:58,458 Well, that one drone that took off 683 00:25:58,583 --> 00:25:59,667 was actually in the center of that region 684 00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:01,042 of the drones that didn't want to connect. 685 00:26:01,167 --> 00:26:03,500 PRESTON: Sky Elements has done shows 686 00:26:03,625 --> 00:26:05,000 all over the country, we've done hundreds of shows. 687 00:26:05,083 --> 00:26:06,333 I've sent up thousands of drones, 688 00:26:06,458 --> 00:26:07,542 and there's issues we've seen 689 00:26:07,708 --> 00:26:09,458 this evening that have been things 690 00:26:09,542 --> 00:26:10,750 we've never seen before. 691 00:26:10,875 --> 00:26:12,167 THOMAS: Every single expert 692 00:26:12,250 --> 00:26:14,542 that we have brought on, uh, I think the ranch 693 00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:16,792 has a perfect record of them 694 00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:19,833 seeing something they've never seen before, so... 695 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,083 I think this experiment was one of 696 00:26:21,208 --> 00:26:22,083 the best things we've done 697 00:26:22,208 --> 00:26:24,375 with precision, with so many data points. 698 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,375 PETE: You know how anxious I am 699 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:27,750 to go pull the data off 700 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,833 -that laser scanner. -Yeah. 701 00:26:29,917 --> 00:26:31,500 TRAVIS: Between Erik's surveillance cameras 702 00:26:31,625 --> 00:26:32,875 and Pete's scanning devices, 703 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000 I can't wait to see what comes out 704 00:26:35,125 --> 00:26:36,833 in the data once it's all processed. 705 00:26:36,917 --> 00:26:39,833 Hopefully, we'll have more visual evidence 706 00:26:39,917 --> 00:26:41,792 of whatever we saw in the sky, 707 00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:44,833 and be able to identify just what it was. 708 00:26:44,958 --> 00:26:47,000 Well, guys, I think this was amazing. 709 00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:49,083 And, uh, we've got a lot of data to, kind of, 710 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,000 absorb and-and analyze and think about, 711 00:26:51,167 --> 00:26:52,458 but I appreciate it. 712 00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:54,167 I can't wait for you to pull the data off, 713 00:26:54,292 --> 00:26:55,625 but I say it's getting late. 714 00:26:55,708 --> 00:26:56,958 Let's call it a night. 715 00:26:57,042 --> 00:26:58,292 Great job, guys. 716 00:26:58,375 --> 00:27:00,083 -All right. -Thanks a lot. -(overlapping chatter) 717 00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:02,208 KYLE: Thank you, thanks for having us. 718 00:27:10,250 --> 00:27:12,083 ERIK: We've got Pete Kelsey cued up for a video conference. 719 00:27:12,208 --> 00:27:14,458 He's got a huge amount of data to share with us 720 00:27:14,583 --> 00:27:16,458 from the drone experiments 721 00:27:16,542 --> 00:27:17,583 that we've done out in the east field 722 00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:19,583 and the triangle. 723 00:27:19,708 --> 00:27:21,333 So, I think we should just jump right in. 724 00:27:21,458 --> 00:27:23,208 -Awesome. -Love to see it. 725 00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:25,333 TRAVIS: Eric and I spent a couple of days 726 00:27:25,458 --> 00:27:26,792 after the drone experiment 727 00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:28,917 reviewing our surveillance footage of the UAP. 728 00:27:29,042 --> 00:27:30,250 -Hey, Pete. -Hey, guys. 729 00:27:30,375 --> 00:27:32,958 So we were eager to compare it to Pete's data 730 00:27:33,083 --> 00:27:35,500 that he collected with the terrestrial lidar scanner. 731 00:27:35,667 --> 00:27:37,125 ERIK: I would like to release 732 00:27:37,208 --> 00:27:39,375 the screen to you and see what you've got. 733 00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:42,917 PETE: There we go, east field. 734 00:27:43,042 --> 00:27:46,625 You can see the mesa here in the background. 735 00:27:48,042 --> 00:27:49,250 -What is that? -That's got to be the rocket right there. 736 00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:52,167 No, no, I'm talking about 737 00:27:52,292 --> 00:27:53,917 -right there. -Oh. 738 00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:57,750 That is way over there. 739 00:27:57,875 --> 00:27:58,833 That rocket never went... That's-that's... 740 00:27:58,958 --> 00:28:00,667 That's a mile away. 741 00:28:00,750 --> 00:28:03,417 We were shooting the rocket down right here, right? 742 00:28:03,542 --> 00:28:05,458 TRAVIS: So what on earth is that? 743 00:28:05,583 --> 00:28:06,542 ERIK: Exactly. 744 00:28:06,667 --> 00:28:08,875 That's my question. 745 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,500 I want to know what in the heck 746 00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:11,958 it is that's showing up out there 747 00:28:12,042 --> 00:28:14,917 on the very edge of what that instrument can measure? 748 00:28:16,417 --> 00:28:19,167 KALEB: That's in the exact same spot where we saw the UAP come in. 749 00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:22,333 TRAVIS: Yeah, and that dot up there, to me, 750 00:28:22,458 --> 00:28:24,708 seems a little bit unexplainable, 751 00:28:24,833 --> 00:28:27,083 and is at about the right altitude 752 00:28:27,208 --> 00:28:29,542 of the... of the thing that we saw in the sky. 753 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,500 We were amazed by the 3D map 754 00:28:32,625 --> 00:28:34,167 of the east field and the mesa 755 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:35,958 that Pete's terrestrial lidar scanner 756 00:28:36,042 --> 00:28:38,625 produced during the drone experiment 757 00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:40,917 because it also appeared to capture the UAP 758 00:28:41,042 --> 00:28:44,167 we saw off in the distance after the rocket was launched. 759 00:28:44,292 --> 00:28:45,875 We really wanted to verify 760 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,958 if that's what it was. 761 00:28:47,042 --> 00:28:50,583 All right, so I think we need to look 762 00:28:50,708 --> 00:28:52,458 at the footage of 763 00:28:52,583 --> 00:28:53,708 the ball in the sky, 764 00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,708 and see if it kind of fits in the same location 765 00:28:55,833 --> 00:28:58,833 as to what this anomaly is here in the lidar data. 766 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,375 Yeah, let me bring that up. 767 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:05,375 So, there's the object. 768 00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:08,958 So, tell me how this differs 769 00:29:09,042 --> 00:29:10,875 from what you saw with your own eyes. 770 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,833 It was a lot brighter when we were 771 00:29:12,958 --> 00:29:14,667 looking at it in real time. 772 00:29:14,792 --> 00:29:15,917 -Very bright. -Very bright. 773 00:29:16,042 --> 00:29:19,625 TRAVIS: And it came down, and... 774 00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:20,917 and it, kind of, was going, 775 00:29:21,042 --> 00:29:22,250 I'm going to say really slow. 776 00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:25,083 And then it turned and went straight up 777 00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:26,250 into the clouds and was gone. 778 00:29:29,083 --> 00:29:31,500 Well, I took a shot of it with my cell phone, 779 00:29:31,583 --> 00:29:32,542 -right? -ERIK: Okay. 780 00:29:32,667 --> 00:29:34,000 And so then, from that, 781 00:29:34,083 --> 00:29:36,417 I did a 3D model of what the image looked like. 782 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:37,833 -And I have that. -Okay. 783 00:29:37,958 --> 00:29:39,542 I have what you put together. 784 00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:41,875 -Okay. -I'll bring that up. 785 00:29:43,792 --> 00:29:45,583 TRAVIS: So, now, if you notice, 786 00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:48,042 it clearly looks like it's two halves. 787 00:29:48,167 --> 00:29:50,000 And looking at it, it looks like it actually 788 00:29:50,125 --> 00:29:51,750 -has an indention, doesn't it? -Mm-hmm. 789 00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,375 TRAVIS: There's some dark spot to it. 790 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,750 From modeling that, I've put this together. 791 00:29:58,083 --> 00:30:00,458 And, uh, this is kind of my idea of what it looks like. 792 00:30:00,542 --> 00:30:02,167 There's dark spots on the end, 793 00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:03,750 and it's like a dumbbell, sort of. 794 00:30:05,042 --> 00:30:07,208 And it's interesting, it looks a lot like 795 00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:09,500 one of the UFOs that an F-18 pilot 796 00:30:09,583 --> 00:30:12,542 captured with a cell phone that they showed at the 797 00:30:12,708 --> 00:30:14,833 House Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence meeting 798 00:30:14,958 --> 00:30:16,125 back a few months ago. 799 00:30:16,208 --> 00:30:19,000 I was really struck by this UAP 800 00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:21,208 that we saw on the ranch, because when I was 801 00:30:21,333 --> 00:30:22,875 the chief scientist for the federal government's 802 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,417 UAP task force between 2020 and 2022, 803 00:30:26,542 --> 00:30:30,208 I reviewed a photograph of something very similar 804 00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,167 that was taken by an American naval pilot 805 00:30:32,292 --> 00:30:34,833 off the coast of Virginia in 2019. 806 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,333 As a scientist, it was really compelling 807 00:30:37,458 --> 00:30:40,167 to see two possible examples of a similar, 808 00:30:40,292 --> 00:30:43,375 if not the same, aerial phenomena. 809 00:30:43,500 --> 00:30:45,458 It's not a focus error, 810 00:30:45,542 --> 00:30:47,042 it's not bokeh effect, 811 00:30:47,167 --> 00:30:48,000 this is actually what it looked like, 812 00:30:48,125 --> 00:30:49,708 and we saw it with our own eyes. 813 00:30:49,833 --> 00:30:51,167 That's what this thing looked like. 814 00:30:52,750 --> 00:30:56,125 ERIK: So you got a sense that this is nuts and bolts. 815 00:30:56,208 --> 00:30:57,833 TRAVIS: I... I believe this might be a nuts and bolts 816 00:30:57,958 --> 00:31:00,333 aircraft, and it was flying. 817 00:31:09,125 --> 00:31:10,500 THOMAS: You know, that UAP 818 00:31:10,625 --> 00:31:12,708 or UFO that we saw the night of the telescope last year 819 00:31:12,875 --> 00:31:15,292 was the closest, brightest 820 00:31:15,417 --> 00:31:16,792 object that I have seen 821 00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,625 in my time here on the ranch... 822 00:31:18,708 --> 00:31:20,208 until we saw this one. 823 00:31:20,333 --> 00:31:23,083 Okay, this one was much lower, 824 00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,792 I think it was much brighter and bigger. 825 00:31:25,917 --> 00:31:27,583 And this one looks just like that one 826 00:31:27,708 --> 00:31:29,000 from the telescope night. 827 00:31:29,167 --> 00:31:31,167 That whole night was just so strange. 828 00:31:31,333 --> 00:31:34,250 TRAVIS: Kaleb and Thomas were exactly right. 829 00:31:35,292 --> 00:31:36,625 DAVID: This scope is pretty dead. 830 00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:39,667 I aimed it manually in the anomaly area, 831 00:31:39,792 --> 00:31:41,500 and then the camera wasn't working. 832 00:31:41,667 --> 00:31:43,542 TRAVIS: Last year, while we were trying to look 833 00:31:43,708 --> 00:31:46,333 through the triangle anomaly with high-powered telescopes, 834 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:50,000 they malfunctioned just like the drone swarm did. 835 00:31:51,333 --> 00:31:53,125 What the hell is that in the sky? 836 00:31:53,208 --> 00:31:56,250 And then, suddenly we saw an eerily 837 00:31:56,375 --> 00:31:58,875 similar UAP maneuver over the ranch. 838 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,083 There's no red or green or white lights on it. 839 00:32:02,208 --> 00:32:04,000 THOMAS: It doesn't look like it's that far away either. 840 00:32:04,125 --> 00:32:05,333 TRAVIS: It's going right under Jupiter. 841 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,000 DAVID: And it's almost as big as Jupiter. 842 00:32:08,125 --> 00:32:10,583 TRAVIS: And it's bright. That ain't an airplane. 843 00:32:10,708 --> 00:32:12,000 DAVID: It's getting dim. 844 00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:13,625 THOMAS: It just disappeared. 845 00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:18,000 I've got some data from the east field exercise to share. 846 00:32:18,167 --> 00:32:20,125 So, we put GPS sensors on 847 00:32:20,208 --> 00:32:21,708 four of the drones in that swarm. 848 00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:23,583 Obviously not on all 200 of them. 849 00:32:23,708 --> 00:32:25,333 I can throw it up on the screen 850 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,125 -if that would help. -TRAVIS: Yeah. 851 00:32:29,333 --> 00:32:32,750 ERIK: So, this is the sum total of the data 852 00:32:32,875 --> 00:32:34,750 that we got off all four of those drones. 853 00:32:34,875 --> 00:32:38,167 And you are seeing all of the maneuvers 854 00:32:38,292 --> 00:32:40,667 that those four individual drones underwent 855 00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:42,458 during the whole exercise. 856 00:32:42,542 --> 00:32:43,958 You know, I'm looking at 857 00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:45,667 perfectly well-behaved formation 858 00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:47,625 in the east field exercise. 859 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:49,417 It looks exactly like what I would have expected to see. 860 00:32:49,542 --> 00:32:50,583 TRAVIS: Yep, yep. 861 00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:52,583 ERIK: Okay, I think what we ought to do 862 00:32:52,708 --> 00:32:54,542 is go over to the other part of the exercise 863 00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:55,708 at the triangle. 864 00:32:55,875 --> 00:32:57,417 I can't wait to get eyes on that. 865 00:32:58,542 --> 00:32:59,917 ERIK: Okay, so here... 866 00:33:02,208 --> 00:33:03,958 TRAVIS: Oh, wow. 867 00:33:04,042 --> 00:33:06,042 Whatever that is, it looks crazy as hell. 868 00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:08,458 'Cause I don't remember it ever looking like that. 869 00:33:09,542 --> 00:33:11,125 Erik's GPS devices were on the four corners 870 00:33:11,208 --> 00:33:12,542 of the drone swarm. 871 00:33:12,708 --> 00:33:15,208 So the data should have appeared just like 872 00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:17,000 it did over the east field. 873 00:33:17,167 --> 00:33:19,583 All intact and in one large cube. 874 00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:22,292 But instead, it was scattered all around 875 00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:23,917 into a shape that looked nothing like 876 00:33:24,042 --> 00:33:26,958 what we saw during the actual experiment. 877 00:33:27,042 --> 00:33:29,000 So, once again, something at the triangle 878 00:33:29,167 --> 00:33:31,500 completely distorted our GPS data. 879 00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:34,333 ERIK: So there's a lot to discuss here. 880 00:33:34,417 --> 00:33:36,417 One of the really 881 00:33:36,542 --> 00:33:38,250 puzzling features of this 882 00:33:38,375 --> 00:33:40,750 is what happens when you look beneath the ground. 883 00:33:41,958 --> 00:33:44,333 TRAVIS: Whoa. It looks like some of them 884 00:33:44,458 --> 00:33:46,500 -are inside the mesa. -ERIK: Yep. 885 00:33:46,625 --> 00:33:48,167 Look how many of them are under the surface. 886 00:33:48,292 --> 00:33:49,292 PETE: Whoa, whoa, 887 00:33:49,417 --> 00:33:53,000 whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 888 00:33:53,083 --> 00:33:54,417 -It looks like a tornado. -KALEB: Right. 889 00:33:54,542 --> 00:33:56,375 I don't recall any of the drones doing this. 890 00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:57,625 KALEB: No. 891 00:33:57,750 --> 00:33:59,500 If I remember right, all these 892 00:33:59,625 --> 00:34:01,417 GPS's were on the corners. 893 00:34:01,542 --> 00:34:04,125 -ERIK: Mm-hmm. -KALEB: So how's that in the middle? 894 00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,125 Turn that up again sideways, Erik. 895 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:10,083 Uh, so we can see that tornado-looking shape. 896 00:34:10,208 --> 00:34:11,333 Sure thing. You want to focus on 897 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:13,125 -this feature here? -Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 898 00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:18,583 TRAVIS: Look right there. 899 00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:22,750 If I was going to draw a wormhole two-dimensionally, 900 00:34:22,875 --> 00:34:24,542 that's what it looks like. 901 00:34:26,417 --> 00:34:29,458 It's two funnels connected at the throats of the funnel. 902 00:34:29,583 --> 00:34:30,917 I'm just saying, 903 00:34:31,042 --> 00:34:33,250 something to think about. 904 00:34:33,375 --> 00:34:34,500 KALEB: What more proof do we need 905 00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:37,208 that there's something going on out here? 906 00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:39,208 -TRAVIS: It's true. -BRYANT: Obviously, 907 00:34:39,375 --> 00:34:41,125 there is something above the triangle 908 00:34:41,250 --> 00:34:43,167 that we've identified with multiple experiments 909 00:34:43,292 --> 00:34:46,000 that absolutely has its way with the GPS. 910 00:34:46,125 --> 00:34:48,667 ERIK: This raises a lot of questions. 911 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:50,000 I don't feel like 912 00:34:50,125 --> 00:34:52,792 I'm nearly done with this data yet. 913 00:34:52,875 --> 00:34:55,042 No, and I'm not comfortable with whatever it means yet either. 914 00:34:57,125 --> 00:34:59,417 There's something else going on here. 915 00:34:59,542 --> 00:35:01,833 Pete's got a bunch of data that he collected 916 00:35:01,958 --> 00:35:03,333 during the exercise. 917 00:35:03,458 --> 00:35:05,542 So, Pete, what have you got? Your, uh, 918 00:35:05,708 --> 00:35:07,167 terrestrial scanner... What else do you have here? 919 00:35:07,292 --> 00:35:09,167 All right, guys, what I'm going to bring up now 920 00:35:09,292 --> 00:35:11,833 is the data from the terrestrial laser scanner. 921 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,167 TRAVIS: After seeing Erik's bizarre GPS data, 922 00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:17,167 I couldn't wait to see Pete Kelsey's terrestrial 923 00:35:17,333 --> 00:35:19,042 lidar scanner data 924 00:35:19,167 --> 00:35:21,333 since it created a 3D map of both 925 00:35:21,417 --> 00:35:23,625 areas where we conducted the drone experiments. 926 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:26,708 The hope was that it would give us some possible clues 927 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:28,250 as to what caused the phenomena. 928 00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:31,375 PETE: So this is the data 929 00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:33,333 from the first slide we did at the triangle. 930 00:35:33,458 --> 00:35:35,292 You can see the mesa here in the background. 931 00:35:35,417 --> 00:35:37,458 I'll just cut to the chase. 932 00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,458 The one part 933 00:35:39,542 --> 00:35:42,125 that's strange, 934 00:35:42,208 --> 00:35:44,583 is right there. 935 00:35:46,042 --> 00:35:48,292 ERIK: What is going on there? 936 00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:50,625 TRAVIS: Is that a shadow? 937 00:35:50,708 --> 00:35:53,500 If I give you a straight-down view... 938 00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:58,833 So, there's a gap in the data. 939 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,167 Where is the data? 940 00:36:00,292 --> 00:36:01,875 And you can see it all 941 00:36:02,042 --> 00:36:04,333 sitting off to the side there. 942 00:36:05,417 --> 00:36:07,208 PETE: It's back here. 943 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,250 I've never seen that before. 944 00:36:10,542 --> 00:36:12,792 TRAVIS: How far away is that? 945 00:36:12,917 --> 00:36:16,125 PETE: Well beyond the range of the scanner. 946 00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:20,417 So, I overlaid 947 00:36:20,542 --> 00:36:22,292 the data 948 00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:25,500 here in Google Earth, 949 00:36:25,625 --> 00:36:29,667 and what I thought was really interesting... 950 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:31,917 is the line, 951 00:36:32,042 --> 00:36:33,458 almost spot-on, 952 00:36:33,583 --> 00:36:36,667 points right at the top of the mesa. 953 00:36:38,583 --> 00:36:40,500 Oh, wow. 954 00:36:40,625 --> 00:36:42,125 TRAVIS: That's hard to believe. 955 00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:43,167 Look at that. 956 00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:44,333 It's pointing right towards 957 00:36:44,458 --> 00:36:45,833 the area where we drilled 958 00:36:45,958 --> 00:36:48,583 into that dome-shaped, metal object last year. 959 00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:55,417 That's very interesting. 960 00:36:55,542 --> 00:36:57,750 The results of our experiment 961 00:36:57,875 --> 00:36:59,208 two days ago at the triangle 962 00:36:59,375 --> 00:37:01,292 have just gotten even more bizarre. 963 00:37:01,375 --> 00:37:03,167 According to Pete Kelsey's computer model 964 00:37:03,250 --> 00:37:04,583 of his lidar scans, 965 00:37:04,708 --> 00:37:07,500 a huge chunk of the data is showing up 966 00:37:07,583 --> 00:37:10,000 over the mesa, right where we drilled 967 00:37:10,125 --> 00:37:11,958 into a 400-foot-long 968 00:37:12,083 --> 00:37:14,333 dome-shaped metal object last year. 969 00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:16,833 And not only that, but a metal object 970 00:37:16,917 --> 00:37:18,333 made of materials that NASA uses 971 00:37:18,458 --> 00:37:20,208 on its own spacecraft. 972 00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:23,833 I guess the question that remains 973 00:37:23,917 --> 00:37:25,833 is what kind of phenomena 974 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,500 could spoof 975 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:31,042 your lidar system like that 976 00:37:31,167 --> 00:37:33,500 to make it push the data way off 977 00:37:33,583 --> 00:37:36,042 to make it think it's further than it is 978 00:37:36,208 --> 00:37:37,208 and remove some of it? 979 00:37:37,375 --> 00:37:38,833 Have you ever seen that before? 980 00:37:38,917 --> 00:37:40,042 PETE: No. 981 00:37:40,167 --> 00:37:42,375 I can't explain it. 982 00:37:42,542 --> 00:37:45,833 TRAVIS: Why do we keep getting GPS data 983 00:37:45,917 --> 00:37:49,708 that is inside the mesa and underneath the ground? 984 00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:53,667 This is an area where GPS 985 00:37:53,792 --> 00:37:55,208 has been spoofed how many different times? 986 00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:57,375 TRAVIS: Yeah. 987 00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:59,333 I think we've about seen everything. 988 00:37:59,458 --> 00:38:01,333 That is a lot of data to digest. 989 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:05,208 Guys, I got to tell you, this is some of the best evidence 990 00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:07,000 that we've been able to capture. 991 00:38:07,083 --> 00:38:08,333 And it just goes to show, 992 00:38:08,458 --> 00:38:10,292 we've got more work to do in both these places. 993 00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:12,167 A hundred percent agree with that. 994 00:38:12,292 --> 00:38:14,208 I'm really curious to hear from you two 995 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:16,125 as to what the next steps 996 00:38:16,208 --> 00:38:17,250 are going to be. 997 00:38:17,375 --> 00:38:18,250 TRAVIS: Every time we get these UAPs 998 00:38:18,375 --> 00:38:20,167 on video, we get a few seconds. 999 00:38:20,292 --> 00:38:22,375 What if we had a high-speed camera 1000 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,667 so those few seconds might be 1001 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:25,042 millions of frames or thousands of frames, 1002 00:38:25,167 --> 00:38:27,250 -or at least hundreds of frames? -Yeah. 1003 00:38:27,375 --> 00:38:28,917 TRAVIS: Through my old government contacts 1004 00:38:29,042 --> 00:38:30,542 with the UAP Task Force, 1005 00:38:30,667 --> 00:38:32,500 I'm aware of camera systems 1006 00:38:32,583 --> 00:38:34,250 that could photograph the triangle area 1007 00:38:34,375 --> 00:38:36,667 in a much more comprehensive way 1008 00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:40,042 to let us get the best look possible at aerial phenomena. 1009 00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:42,458 It just might eliminate guesswork, 1010 00:38:42,583 --> 00:38:45,875 and help us identify these UAPs or UFOs, 1011 00:38:46,042 --> 00:38:47,333 if that's really what they are. 1012 00:38:47,417 --> 00:38:50,417 Also, we've got a lot of work to do 1013 00:38:50,542 --> 00:38:51,708 -inside the mesa. -BRYANT: Right. 1014 00:38:51,833 --> 00:38:53,042 ERIK: I definitely got unfinished 1015 00:38:53,208 --> 00:38:54,667 -business out there. -TRAVIS: I agree. 1016 00:38:54,792 --> 00:38:56,833 You can't look at the data we saw tonight 1017 00:38:56,917 --> 00:38:58,833 and think that we're done with that, right? 1018 00:38:58,917 --> 00:39:00,208 -Right. -KALEB: Yeah. 1019 00:39:00,375 --> 00:39:02,083 TRAVIS: We just got to figure out what to do next. 1020 00:39:02,208 --> 00:39:03,375 ERIK: I would like to do some 1021 00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:04,875 ground-penetrating radar 1022 00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:05,875 to see if we can get any insights 1023 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,333 beneath that area. 1024 00:39:07,458 --> 00:39:09,458 -TRAVIS: Yeah. -THOMAS: Absolutely. 1025 00:39:09,542 --> 00:39:11,500 TRAVIS: Drilling has helped us to approximate 1026 00:39:11,583 --> 00:39:14,375 where this mysterious metal object in the mesa is buried, 1027 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,167 but Erik is right. 1028 00:39:16,333 --> 00:39:18,083 Using ground-penetrating radar 1029 00:39:18,208 --> 00:39:21,083 will help us better define this anomaly's dimensions. 1030 00:39:21,208 --> 00:39:23,583 Then we can figure out how to reveal 1031 00:39:23,708 --> 00:39:25,375 just what the heck it really is. 1032 00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:28,625 I'm excited, I think we've got more hard data... 1033 00:39:28,708 --> 00:39:29,750 We've got as much hard data 1034 00:39:29,875 --> 00:39:32,667 right now, I think, as, uh, even when 1035 00:39:32,792 --> 00:39:34,833 I was with the UAP task force, the things we saw. 1036 00:39:34,958 --> 00:39:37,167 -ERIK: Wow. -TRAVIS: I think this is amazing. 1037 00:39:37,292 --> 00:39:38,917 ERIK: I'm ready to wrap it up, 1038 00:39:39,042 --> 00:39:40,500 -unless you guys... -TRAVIS: Yeah, lets wrap it up. 1039 00:39:40,625 --> 00:39:41,583 -Great stuff. -About all I can handle. 1040 00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:43,958 Pete, thank you for joining us. 1041 00:39:44,042 --> 00:39:45,292 Yeah, my pleasure. 1042 00:39:45,375 --> 00:39:46,833 -See you later, Pete. -Take care. 1043 00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:48,958 Erik, this is awesome stuff, man. 1044 00:39:50,375 --> 00:39:51,625 TRAVIS: This spot on the mesa 1045 00:39:51,708 --> 00:39:53,958 is turning out to be very interesting. 1046 00:39:55,042 --> 00:39:57,500 It's compelling evidence of something unusual. 1047 00:39:57,625 --> 00:39:59,375 This is clearly a spot of interest. 1048 00:39:59,542 --> 00:40:02,000 We've got to get into the mesa somehow 1049 00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:03,583 and find out what this is. 1050 00:40:04,708 --> 00:40:06,708 ERIK: We are here to be led by the data. 1051 00:40:06,875 --> 00:40:10,333 We observe, we measure, and then our course is chosen 1052 00:40:10,458 --> 00:40:13,125 based upon the data in hand. 1053 00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:14,667 This approach has yielded 1054 00:40:14,792 --> 00:40:16,917 some really powerful insights so far, 1055 00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:18,667 some unexpected results, 1056 00:40:18,792 --> 00:40:20,500 things I never anticipated. 1057 00:40:20,583 --> 00:40:22,708 And this is how we're going to continue 1058 00:40:22,833 --> 00:40:25,750 as we conduct this investigation on the ranch. 1059 00:40:25,875 --> 00:40:28,875 BRANDON: These experiments continue to give us data, 1060 00:40:29,042 --> 00:40:31,833 data helping us understand the nature of the phenomena. 1061 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,958 There is something tied to both the airspace 1062 00:40:36,042 --> 00:40:37,542 above Skinwalker Ranch 1063 00:40:37,708 --> 00:40:40,333 and also that which may lie below. 1064 00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:44,083 Our future investigation will undoubtedly 1065 00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:46,292 delve into these topics. 1066 00:40:46,375 --> 00:40:48,875 More than ever before. 1067 00:40:51,208 --> 00:40:52,500 The deeper we can see 1068 00:40:52,625 --> 00:40:54,167 into that mesa, the more we're going to 1069 00:40:54,292 --> 00:40:56,208 understand what it is we're messing with out here. 1070 00:40:56,333 --> 00:40:57,542 JAN: Let's hope the GPS works. 1071 00:40:57,667 --> 00:40:59,917 This is highly anomalous. 1072 00:41:00,042 --> 00:41:02,042 Whatever this is is as tall as the mesa. 1073 00:41:02,167 --> 00:41:03,917 TRAVIS: We should be digging right there. 1074 00:41:05,167 --> 00:41:06,000 Oh, we got a malfunction. 1075 00:41:06,083 --> 00:41:07,375 Everybody watch out. 1076 00:41:07,542 --> 00:41:09,833 There's something in the sky above the rocket. 1077 00:41:09,917 --> 00:41:12,708 We may be looking at the anomaly for the first time, guys. 1078 00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:15,208 We have a helicopter right over the triangle. 1079 00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:16,875 He's doing surveillance right now. 1080 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,542 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS