1 00:00:00,759 --> 00:00:03,762 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:14,152 --> 00:00:15,291 [crowd cheering] 3 00:00:15,325 --> 00:00:17,431 Michael! Michael! Michael! 4 00:00:20,158 --> 00:00:24,196 [dramatic music playing] 5 00:00:50,981 --> 00:00:53,363 [phone rings] 6 00:00:53,398 --> 00:00:55,572 [operator] ...what is your emergency? 7 00:00:55,607 --> 00:00:57,229 [caller] Yes, sir, I need to-- I, uh, 8 00:00:57,264 --> 00:00:59,473 I need an ambulance as soon as possible, sir, 9 00:00:59,507 --> 00:01:02,890 I have-- We have a gentleman here that needs help, 10 00:01:02,924 --> 00:01:04,409 and he's stopped breathing. 11 00:01:04,443 --> 00:01:08,930 [dramatic music playing] 12 00:01:15,178 --> 00:01:17,525 [Scott] You're talking about Michael Jackson here. 13 00:01:18,768 --> 00:01:20,563 It was absolutely huge. 14 00:01:21,564 --> 00:01:23,704 [Orlando] There was a lot of pressure 15 00:01:23,738 --> 00:01:24,705 to get it right. 16 00:01:24,946 --> 00:01:29,158 [suspenseful music playing] 17 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,541 This isn't a man who should have died. 18 00:01:37,649 --> 00:01:39,927 [caller] He's stopped breathing, he's not breathing, 19 00:01:39,961 --> 00:01:41,722 and we need to-- we're trying to pump him, 20 00:01:41,756 --> 00:01:43,758 -but he's not-- he's not-- -[operator] Okay. 21 00:01:43,793 --> 00:01:44,863 Okay, how old is he? 22 00:01:44,897 --> 00:01:46,692 [caller] He's, uh, 50 years old, sir. 23 00:01:46,727 --> 00:01:47,555 [operator] Fifty? Okay. 24 00:01:48,694 --> 00:01:49,557 He's unconscious, he's not breathing? 25 00:01:49,592 --> 00:01:50,972 [caller] Yes, he's not breathing. 26 00:01:51,007 --> 00:01:52,491 [Richard] When we were dispatched 27 00:01:52,526 --> 00:01:55,080 to a 50-year-old male, cardiac arrest, 28 00:01:55,529 --> 00:01:57,738 we think, "This is a viable patient." 29 00:01:57,772 --> 00:02:01,017 "This is someone if we get to in a timely manner we can save." 30 00:02:01,638 --> 00:02:03,330 And then, when I enter this room, 31 00:02:03,778 --> 00:02:06,540 opulent room, with medical equipment in it, 32 00:02:06,850 --> 00:02:08,818 I realize there's something unusual here. 33 00:02:08,852 --> 00:02:12,097 What 50-year-old male would be laying in bed at noon 34 00:02:12,408 --> 00:02:13,754 with medical equipment? 35 00:02:14,168 --> 00:02:16,239 We're not looking at the patient at that moment. 36 00:02:17,275 --> 00:02:18,483 Till my partner did. 37 00:02:18,690 --> 00:02:20,761 He looked up and whispered the name, 38 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:22,556 Michael Jackson. 39 00:02:23,281 --> 00:02:25,800 When I realized who it was, 40 00:02:26,698 --> 00:02:28,355 I was surprised. 41 00:02:28,562 --> 00:02:31,979 We had no idea he was there. None of us had any idea 42 00:02:32,013 --> 00:02:33,325 he was living in our neighborhood. 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,568 [operator] Um...[clears throat] 44 00:02:34,602 --> 00:02:37,018 Where did-- Did anybody witness what happened? 45 00:02:37,053 --> 00:02:39,055 [caller] Um, no, just the doctor, sir. 46 00:02:39,228 --> 00:02:40,815 There was a man with our patient 47 00:02:40,850 --> 00:02:43,024 who identified himself as the doctor, 48 00:02:43,059 --> 00:02:45,406 and, as such, I immediately asked him 49 00:02:45,441 --> 00:02:48,098 some information, what had happened? 50 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:50,100 How long has this been going on? 51 00:02:50,653 --> 00:02:53,932 And he told me then that it had just happened. 52 00:02:54,277 --> 00:02:56,486 This was a patient to me that it seemed 53 00:02:56,521 --> 00:02:58,868 that he had not just passed away, 54 00:02:58,902 --> 00:03:02,182 that some time had gone by before we were notified. 55 00:03:03,010 --> 00:03:05,012 And, in fact, later 56 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:08,222 when you're reflecting on this call, 57 00:03:08,498 --> 00:03:10,638 the days, the weeks, the months afterwards, 58 00:03:10,673 --> 00:03:13,676 one of the greatest regrets that all of us had 59 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:15,505 was that we had not been called sooner. 60 00:03:15,540 --> 00:03:18,439 [dramatic music playing] 61 00:03:18,474 --> 00:03:21,856 When we came outside, that's when we became aware 62 00:03:21,891 --> 00:03:23,030 of a very large presence. 63 00:03:23,272 --> 00:03:25,205 We were trying to back out on the street 64 00:03:25,239 --> 00:03:28,691 only to be hindered by many, many cameramen 65 00:03:28,725 --> 00:03:31,107 putting their lenses against the glass windows 66 00:03:31,141 --> 00:03:32,660 of the moving ambulance. 67 00:03:34,386 --> 00:03:38,977 [dramatic music playing] 68 00:03:41,428 --> 00:03:43,223 Michael! Michael! 69 00:03:43,257 --> 00:03:45,017 [Scott] People seem to forget or don't realize 70 00:03:45,052 --> 00:03:48,504 about this investigation, it was a death investigation. 71 00:03:48,538 --> 00:03:52,059 There really wasn't a crime, um, at the time. 72 00:03:53,854 --> 00:03:56,339 [Orlando] From the information that I had, it was probably 73 00:03:56,374 --> 00:03:59,549 an accident or natural, and we would find out 74 00:03:59,584 --> 00:04:02,414 that he had some pre-existing medical condition 75 00:04:02,449 --> 00:04:05,037 and then we would be done. 76 00:04:05,831 --> 00:04:09,421 [Dan] Just look at what we knew in the first hours of this. 77 00:04:09,697 --> 00:04:12,321 Taken to the hospital, there wasn't a bloody knife, 78 00:04:12,631 --> 00:04:16,359 there wasn't a smoking gun, there was nothing on the surface 79 00:04:16,394 --> 00:04:18,154 that would lead anyone to believe 80 00:04:18,188 --> 00:04:19,983 anything nefarious had occurred. 81 00:04:21,675 --> 00:04:24,056 [Orlando] When I arrived at the hospital, 82 00:04:24,091 --> 00:04:25,679 Dr. Murray was gone, 83 00:04:26,335 --> 00:04:29,476 so he was no longer there at the scene. 84 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:31,926 [Scott] We're in a bit of a panic then, 85 00:04:32,306 --> 00:04:35,551 uh, the one person that was in the room with him at the time 86 00:04:35,585 --> 00:04:38,312 that everything happened is no longer at the hospital. 87 00:04:38,347 --> 00:04:40,107 There were several attempts right away 88 00:04:40,141 --> 00:04:43,317 to get a hold of Dr. Murray, uh, that were negative, 89 00:04:43,352 --> 00:04:45,112 that he-- they were going to voicemail. 90 00:04:45,940 --> 00:04:47,425 [Scott] We had family members, 91 00:04:47,459 --> 00:04:49,358 Jackson family members coming in, 92 00:04:49,392 --> 00:04:53,327 and people wanting some questions answered, 93 00:04:53,362 --> 00:04:54,535 as well as us. 94 00:04:55,709 --> 00:04:58,677 [Jermaine] It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest 95 00:04:58,712 --> 00:04:59,506 in his home. 96 00:05:00,610 --> 00:05:05,132 A team of doctors, including emergency physicians 97 00:05:05,512 --> 00:05:09,170 and cardiologists, attempted to resuscitate him. 98 00:05:09,516 --> 00:05:11,552 [Orlando] The emergency room physician, 99 00:05:11,587 --> 00:05:14,210 they believed it was a heart attack, 100 00:05:14,521 --> 00:05:17,696 partly because of what Mr. Murray had told them. 101 00:05:18,145 --> 00:05:21,666 Never told them anything about any other narcotics 102 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:25,083 or anything. They just believed he had had a heart attack 103 00:05:25,117 --> 00:05:26,912 and stopped breathing. 104 00:05:26,947 --> 00:05:30,571 [dramatic music playing] 105 00:05:35,369 --> 00:05:39,166 So here we are at the Carolwood house. 106 00:05:47,416 --> 00:05:48,969 That day... 107 00:05:49,556 --> 00:05:51,351 by the time I got here, 108 00:05:53,042 --> 00:05:56,873 we had to block off this side of the street, 109 00:05:57,218 --> 00:06:01,947 the entrance side of the street, and it was full of media vans. 110 00:06:03,949 --> 00:06:05,537 We had never seen anything like it. 111 00:06:05,572 --> 00:06:07,056 I had never seen anything like it. 112 00:06:07,297 --> 00:06:10,991 [suspenseful music playing] 113 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:24,798 [Orlando] There was the room 114 00:06:24,832 --> 00:06:27,973 where Dr. Murray treated Mr. Jackson, 115 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:29,941 and then there was a locked room, 116 00:06:29,975 --> 00:06:32,944 which was, uh, Mr. Jackson's bedroom. 117 00:06:32,978 --> 00:06:36,396 [dramatic music playing] 118 00:06:36,706 --> 00:06:39,329 There was a fireplace in the room and it was roaring, 119 00:06:39,571 --> 00:06:42,056 so the room was very, very hot. 120 00:06:42,988 --> 00:06:47,303 There were, like, Post-it notes or pieces of paper taped, 121 00:06:47,337 --> 00:06:51,100 uh, all over the room on mirrors, on doors 122 00:06:51,618 --> 00:06:53,585 with little slogans and phrases. 123 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:56,208 I don't know if they were lyrics or thoughts, 124 00:06:56,243 --> 00:06:59,626 or some of them seemed like poems. 125 00:07:00,316 --> 00:07:02,594 The bedroom was... 126 00:07:04,838 --> 00:07:06,287 it was a mess. 127 00:07:11,603 --> 00:07:14,434 In the room where he was being treated, 128 00:07:14,848 --> 00:07:18,334 it did not seem like a room fit 129 00:07:18,368 --> 00:07:19,853 for any type of medical treatment. 130 00:07:20,509 --> 00:07:24,858 Not even like a home, makeshift medical suite. 131 00:07:24,892 --> 00:07:27,447 It was just... bare bones. 132 00:07:27,723 --> 00:07:32,175 I just remember going in there and there was an IV stand 133 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:34,419 and a saline bag 134 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:38,285 and just various medications strewn about. 135 00:07:41,322 --> 00:07:44,118 [Orlando] There was a computer on the bed, 136 00:07:44,325 --> 00:07:49,261 there was a lifelike, uh, doll on the bed, 137 00:07:49,745 --> 00:07:55,889 and kind of like advertisements of, uh, pictures with babies. 138 00:07:57,649 --> 00:08:01,446 Everybody knew about the allegations 139 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:03,068 that had been leveled 140 00:08:03,103 --> 00:08:04,656 against Mr. Jackson over the years. 141 00:08:06,624 --> 00:08:09,765 One of the things when I saw the laptop on the bed, 142 00:08:10,351 --> 00:08:11,870 do I go into it? 143 00:08:12,077 --> 00:08:15,495 But... you have to realize 144 00:08:15,771 --> 00:08:17,669 the type of case I was investigating. 145 00:08:17,704 --> 00:08:21,293 When you get, you know, hold of an investigation, 146 00:08:21,501 --> 00:08:25,228 you have to kind of whittle out 147 00:08:25,574 --> 00:08:27,507 what is and what isn't. 148 00:08:31,338 --> 00:08:34,479 [Dan] It's like with any case, um, you don't allow 149 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:38,138 whatever the victim was into prior to his death. 150 00:08:38,552 --> 00:08:42,383 Your investigation is focused on, "How did he die?" 151 00:08:42,763 --> 00:08:45,041 and "Who was responsible for it?" 152 00:08:47,699 --> 00:08:50,219 [Orlando] In the room where he was being treated, 153 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,911 a bottle of Propofol... 154 00:08:53,947 --> 00:08:56,087 had fallen on the ground 155 00:08:56,121 --> 00:08:59,711 and rolled under this moving nightstand. 156 00:09:01,471 --> 00:09:02,990 I didn't know what it did. 157 00:09:04,164 --> 00:09:06,856 That ended up being a huge deal later. 158 00:09:07,616 --> 00:09:09,825 I had no medical background whatsoever. 159 00:09:10,446 --> 00:09:13,863 My neighbor was a doctor, so I went to my neighbor 160 00:09:14,484 --> 00:09:16,072 and I asked him about it, 161 00:09:16,383 --> 00:09:21,388 and my neighbor was the one who got it started of, 162 00:09:22,044 --> 00:09:25,150 "Whoa, what is this doing here?" 163 00:09:25,426 --> 00:09:27,463 "This is only used in surgeries, 164 00:09:27,497 --> 00:09:30,362 this is used to put people under." 165 00:09:34,608 --> 00:09:37,507 [ambient music playing] 166 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:47,932 [Orlando] We had put it out in the press 167 00:09:47,966 --> 00:09:51,038 that we were looking for Dr. Murray. 168 00:09:52,384 --> 00:09:53,420 We still didn't think 169 00:09:53,454 --> 00:09:55,387 that there was anything criminal going on. 170 00:09:55,836 --> 00:09:59,426 The only thing that we knew was this surgery drug 171 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:00,979 was at the location 172 00:10:01,014 --> 00:10:02,429 and it shouldn't have been there. 173 00:10:03,119 --> 00:10:05,087 The next day, we get a call. 174 00:10:05,121 --> 00:10:07,192 His attorney has been in contact. 175 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:09,263 He consents to an interview. 176 00:10:10,782 --> 00:10:12,612 So our plan was to let him talk, 177 00:10:13,060 --> 00:10:15,407 and, uh, that's what we did. 178 00:10:18,203 --> 00:10:22,207 [Orlando, on recording] So, um, how long have you been a doctor 179 00:10:22,242 --> 00:10:23,553 for Mr. Jackson? 180 00:10:25,866 --> 00:10:27,661 [Conrad, on recording] I first, um, started 181 00:10:27,696 --> 00:10:30,008 attending to him in 2006. 182 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:32,770 [Orlando] And it was continuous, 2006 on? 183 00:10:32,804 --> 00:10:35,013 -[Conrad] No. Well, no. -[Orlando] Or on and off? 184 00:10:35,048 --> 00:10:36,739 [Conrad] Off and on, intermittent. 185 00:10:36,774 --> 00:10:37,809 [Orlando] Okay. 186 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:39,604 We didn't know what happened, 187 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,917 we didn't want to assume anything, 188 00:10:41,951 --> 00:10:46,266 and we wanted to give the doctor an opportunity 189 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:48,786 to dig his own hole, if that was the case. 190 00:10:48,820 --> 00:10:50,615 [interviewer] So it's just you and Michael? 191 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:52,203 [Conrad] Usually, that's how it is. 192 00:10:52,237 --> 00:10:54,412 [interviewer] Okay. On this night, it was just you 193 00:10:54,446 --> 00:10:56,207 -and Michael? -[Conrad] Just myself and him. 194 00:10:56,241 --> 00:10:58,519 [Scott] And he proceeded to tell us that, you know, 195 00:10:58,554 --> 00:11:01,143 Michael just couldn't sleep, he was just so amped up 196 00:11:01,177 --> 00:11:03,524 about this upcoming concert. 197 00:11:04,422 --> 00:11:06,355 He, by nature, 198 00:11:06,666 --> 00:11:08,115 had a hard time sleeping. 199 00:11:08,702 --> 00:11:12,016 He gave him some drugs. 200 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:16,261 [Scott] Some Valium, Lorazepam, and Diazepam, 201 00:11:16,296 --> 00:11:18,367 and a few others to try and calm Michael to try 202 00:11:18,401 --> 00:11:20,680 and get him to rest, to fall asleep, 203 00:11:20,714 --> 00:11:24,166 -and nothing works. -[Conrad] He was wide awake. 204 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,271 I said, "Do you feel a little bit drowsy?" 205 00:11:26,306 --> 00:11:28,722 "Do you think your eyes are telling you 206 00:11:28,757 --> 00:11:31,863 you wanna sleep?" He said, "No." 207 00:11:33,002 --> 00:11:35,833 Dr. Murray says, "You know, after trying 208 00:11:35,867 --> 00:11:38,249 all these various things, nothing was working, 209 00:11:38,283 --> 00:11:41,355 and it's in the early morning hours of the next day 210 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:44,876 and, uh, so finally, I just gave Michael his milk." 211 00:11:44,911 --> 00:11:47,327 [Conrad] At that time, he said, well, um... 212 00:11:49,570 --> 00:11:53,333 "I'd like to have... some milk." 213 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:54,955 [Orlando] Milk? 214 00:11:55,542 --> 00:11:57,820 Hot, cold milk? What are we talking about? 215 00:11:57,855 --> 00:12:00,064 He says, "Oh, well, that's a-- it's a medication. 216 00:12:00,098 --> 00:12:02,273 Does the medication have a name? 217 00:12:02,307 --> 00:12:04,516 He says, "Well, it's Propofol." 218 00:12:04,724 --> 00:12:08,106 And this was again a big revelation 219 00:12:08,313 --> 00:12:11,765 during this interview that Propofol's mentioned. 220 00:12:12,007 --> 00:12:14,595 [Scott, on recording] And what is this, uh, Propofol? 221 00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:17,391 [Conrad] It is a sedative 222 00:12:18,496 --> 00:12:22,293 that can also be used for anesthesia. 223 00:12:23,708 --> 00:12:28,678 He freely admits that for months he's been using this 224 00:12:28,713 --> 00:12:31,164 to help Mr. Jackson sleep. 225 00:12:31,992 --> 00:12:33,373 [Scott] Okay. You've administered it 226 00:12:33,407 --> 00:12:35,099 -more than ten times? -[Conrad] Yes. 227 00:12:35,133 --> 00:12:36,583 [Scott] More than 20 times? 228 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:39,966 [Conrad] Thirty days a month roughly, every day. 229 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,831 -[Orlando] So it's a daily-- -[Scott] A daily. 230 00:12:42,865 --> 00:12:46,938 In my head I was thinking what the heck. 231 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,426 To drug someone to sleep, even with their permission, 232 00:12:53,117 --> 00:12:54,532 the way that he did. 233 00:12:54,739 --> 00:12:56,085 I didn't think it was legal. 234 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,020 [Conrad] I monitored. I sat there and watched him 235 00:13:00,572 --> 00:13:03,575 for long enough a period that I felt was comfortable. 236 00:13:04,369 --> 00:13:09,374 [Orlando] He gave him Propofol and then goes to the bathroom, 237 00:13:09,409 --> 00:13:12,964 comes back, Mr. Jackson's not breathing. 238 00:13:12,999 --> 00:13:17,624 [Conrad] So I started immediately to perform CPR 239 00:13:18,245 --> 00:13:20,696 and mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. 240 00:13:22,249 --> 00:13:24,044 He goes into a panic, 241 00:13:24,838 --> 00:13:28,946 uh, he tries CPR while Michael's on the bed, 242 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,019 he summons Alberto Alvarez, the head of security, 243 00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:37,368 and, ultimately, Alberto Alvarez is the one that calls 911. 244 00:13:37,402 --> 00:13:41,786 [dramatic music playing] 245 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,583 [Orlando] When we reviewed the CCTV at the mansion, 246 00:13:45,790 --> 00:13:48,793 we saw that he carried in a bag with him, 247 00:13:49,173 --> 00:13:53,867 and also the family and the security staff told us 248 00:13:53,902 --> 00:13:55,696 he would always carry a bag with him. 249 00:13:55,731 --> 00:13:57,457 When he went to the hospital, 250 00:13:57,491 --> 00:13:59,390 he did not have the bag with him. 251 00:13:59,424 --> 00:14:03,981 The biggest, uh, "aha" moment was 252 00:14:04,395 --> 00:14:07,847 when I had asked Dr. Murray 253 00:14:07,881 --> 00:14:09,089 where his bags were. 254 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:12,092 [Scott, on recording] Where-- Where's your bag 255 00:14:12,127 --> 00:14:14,163 where those syringes would be at now? 256 00:14:14,198 --> 00:14:16,545 -[Chernoff] Oh, really? -[Conrad] I don't have them. 257 00:14:16,925 --> 00:14:19,306 [Chernoff] I thought you left it there? 258 00:14:19,859 --> 00:14:21,791 He was assuming that we had it. 259 00:14:21,826 --> 00:14:23,241 You haven't got my bags? 260 00:14:23,276 --> 00:14:26,831 Once he realized we didn't have that, he's like, 261 00:14:27,245 --> 00:14:30,076 you know, a deer in headlights look, if you will. 262 00:14:30,110 --> 00:14:31,974 You know, legally we can search 263 00:14:32,009 --> 00:14:33,665 the areas that are relevant. 264 00:14:34,011 --> 00:14:36,496 It wasn't in the room that was relevant. 265 00:14:36,703 --> 00:14:38,843 [Conrad] If you walk into the dressing room 266 00:14:38,878 --> 00:14:41,466 and you turn right, the high level top, 267 00:14:41,501 --> 00:14:45,505 the bags are right there with the items in it. 268 00:14:45,539 --> 00:14:49,819 You know, in those moments, people aren't their sharpest, 269 00:14:49,854 --> 00:14:51,476 they're not thinking the best, 270 00:14:51,511 --> 00:14:54,617 so it's our job to take those little mistakes 271 00:14:54,652 --> 00:14:57,034 that people make and build the case on them. 272 00:14:57,344 --> 00:14:59,933 [dramatic music playing] 273 00:14:59,968 --> 00:15:01,693 [Orlando] First thing Monday morning, 274 00:15:01,728 --> 00:15:02,971 we went to the house, 275 00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:07,458 we went to where Dr. Murray had said the medical bag was. 276 00:15:09,632 --> 00:15:11,980 A different room, in a closet, 277 00:15:12,014 --> 00:15:15,121 in a cubby above the closet, we recovered the bag. 278 00:15:17,261 --> 00:15:20,747 We recovered a treasure trove of evidence 279 00:15:20,781 --> 00:15:22,922 from Murray's doctor's bag. 280 00:15:23,784 --> 00:15:27,547 [Orlando] We found a bunch of more medicines 281 00:15:27,754 --> 00:15:28,755 that he had used. 282 00:15:28,789 --> 00:15:30,791 Like Propofol and Lidocaine. 283 00:15:31,378 --> 00:15:34,899 One of the other things we found was we found all the waste, 284 00:15:34,934 --> 00:15:37,833 all the trash, the needles, 285 00:15:38,282 --> 00:15:39,697 the empty bottles, 286 00:15:40,077 --> 00:15:43,459 the stuff that, when we went into the room, 287 00:15:43,494 --> 00:15:45,530 should have been laying around. 288 00:15:46,324 --> 00:15:51,088 So we knew that sometime during this medical emergency, 289 00:15:51,295 --> 00:15:53,607 Dr. Murray had stopped 290 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:56,472 either giving CPR 291 00:15:56,507 --> 00:15:59,475 or had waited to give CPR, 292 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:01,408 and cleaned up everything. 293 00:16:03,031 --> 00:16:06,758 So we're thinking what could be the reasons for that. 294 00:16:06,793 --> 00:16:10,279 Within 48 hours, it appeared that it was a suspicious death, 295 00:16:10,314 --> 00:16:12,523 in the sense that there was something 296 00:16:12,730 --> 00:16:14,939 more than just an overdose. 297 00:16:17,838 --> 00:16:20,910 If your goal is to preserve the life 298 00:16:20,945 --> 00:16:24,086 of the person that you're giving CPR to, 299 00:16:24,121 --> 00:16:28,677 why would you pause that to pick up trash? 300 00:16:28,711 --> 00:16:30,955 Unless you were trying to hide something. 301 00:16:32,163 --> 00:16:34,959 If he wouldn't have told us where it was, or if he would've 302 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:36,788 taken it with him, we wouldn't have had it, 303 00:16:36,823 --> 00:16:39,964 we would have lost that element of the hiding, 304 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:41,621 the trying to cover up. 305 00:16:42,967 --> 00:16:44,624 [Dan] We were now looking at Murray. 306 00:16:45,383 --> 00:16:47,247 He was behind the death. 307 00:16:50,561 --> 00:16:53,253 [dramatic music playing] 308 00:17:08,475 --> 00:17:11,858 Not only do you have to do 309 00:17:11,892 --> 00:17:13,653 what you can for the victim, 310 00:17:13,998 --> 00:17:18,658 but you also have to take into account the organization. 311 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,628 [Dan] You're donning a uniform that has-- 312 00:17:23,663 --> 00:17:25,078 that's been a part of history, 313 00:17:25,113 --> 00:17:28,116 and growing up with the stories that you'd heard 314 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:30,290 from the Manson cases, 315 00:17:31,981 --> 00:17:35,985 you know, Marilyn Monroe, all these notorious cases 316 00:17:36,020 --> 00:17:38,540 that you'd seen and heard about growing up, 317 00:17:38,574 --> 00:17:40,059 were part of LAPD. 318 00:17:41,163 --> 00:17:44,891 [Orlando] Historically, our department had not had 319 00:17:44,925 --> 00:17:47,342 very much success on high-profile cases. 320 00:17:47,894 --> 00:17:51,518 We had, um, lost the OJ case, 321 00:17:52,209 --> 00:17:54,625 everybody remembers the Bronco chase. 322 00:17:55,764 --> 00:17:58,801 Ourselves and the DA's office allowed him 323 00:17:58,836 --> 00:18:00,251 to turn himself in, 324 00:18:00,286 --> 00:18:01,632 and it turned into a pursuit 325 00:18:01,666 --> 00:18:04,083 and a hostage situation, just ridiculous. 326 00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:06,775 [Dan] And even though you have this overwhelming 327 00:18:06,809 --> 00:18:10,158 amount of evidence to secure a conviction, 328 00:18:10,192 --> 00:18:11,262 you don't get it. 329 00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:13,782 [female juror] We the jury in the above-entitled action 330 00:18:13,816 --> 00:18:15,611 find the defendant Orenthal James Simpson 331 00:18:15,646 --> 00:18:17,579 not guilty of the crime of murder, 332 00:18:17,613 --> 00:18:19,374 a felony upon Nicole Brown Simpson, 333 00:18:19,408 --> 00:18:22,411 a human being, as charged in Count 1 of the information. 334 00:18:24,551 --> 00:18:27,071 For us working the cases, 335 00:18:27,106 --> 00:18:29,625 we didn't want to make the same mistakes 336 00:18:29,660 --> 00:18:32,421 that had been made in the department's memory 337 00:18:32,456 --> 00:18:33,698 and in the public memory. 338 00:18:33,733 --> 00:18:36,322 There was a lot of pressure to get it right. 339 00:18:40,981 --> 00:18:45,124 Me personally, I thought that it was gonna be horrible. 340 00:18:46,297 --> 00:18:49,058 The public scrutiny, 341 00:18:49,852 --> 00:18:52,372 the second guessing. 342 00:18:52,648 --> 00:18:54,271 [man] This is kind of like when, um, 343 00:18:54,305 --> 00:18:57,032 the generation when Kennedy was assassinated. 344 00:18:57,066 --> 00:18:59,414 I now will remember that I was in Times Square, 345 00:18:59,448 --> 00:19:02,727 you know, when I found out that Michael Jackson passed away. 346 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:07,594 [Scott] There was a lot more pressure, if you will. 347 00:19:07,629 --> 00:19:10,287 There was a lot of eyes on us, obviously, 348 00:19:10,321 --> 00:19:12,323 to get the job done. 349 00:19:12,358 --> 00:19:14,981 It was daunting at times. 350 00:19:15,015 --> 00:19:19,088 [dramatic music playing] 351 00:19:23,921 --> 00:19:26,441 [Scott] When I showed up to go into the autopsy, 352 00:19:26,475 --> 00:19:30,962 you know, they had a little cover over the window, 353 00:19:30,997 --> 00:19:33,137 and they were looking to make sure it's just me 354 00:19:33,172 --> 00:19:35,243 and no one else is around, and they open the door 355 00:19:35,277 --> 00:19:38,177 and they usher me in right away and close the door and lock it. 356 00:19:38,211 --> 00:19:40,869 And I'm like, "Oh my gosh," you know, 357 00:19:40,903 --> 00:19:42,733 we're in a controlled environment, 358 00:19:42,767 --> 00:19:45,080 this is your office, this is a coroner's office, 359 00:19:45,253 --> 00:19:46,323 what's the problem? 360 00:19:47,807 --> 00:19:50,499 Everything had been cleared out of there. 361 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:55,849 I remember it being close to, uh, five hours long. 362 00:19:56,125 --> 00:19:58,404 It was extraordinarily long. 363 00:19:59,715 --> 00:20:03,236 The thing that was odd that I found myself 364 00:20:03,271 --> 00:20:06,584 periodically looking at was, you know, his head, his scalp, 365 00:20:07,171 --> 00:20:10,347 because whenever he was out in public, he was wearing a wig. 366 00:20:10,381 --> 00:20:14,213 [dramatic music playing] 367 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,704 Looking at his scalp and the top of his head 368 00:20:22,738 --> 00:20:26,259 and being, you know, severely scarred, 369 00:20:26,294 --> 00:20:28,537 hardly any hair at all on the sides 370 00:20:28,572 --> 00:20:32,576 to what he had looked like in public with the flowing hair, 371 00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:36,096 um, that was, you know, a bit different. 372 00:20:36,752 --> 00:20:39,790 Not defending his use of prescription medicine 373 00:20:39,824 --> 00:20:42,137 by any means, but, you know, 374 00:20:42,171 --> 00:20:44,035 when you experience something like that, 375 00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:47,073 it kinda opens up the door for painkillers 376 00:20:47,107 --> 00:20:49,317 and whatever else that may lead to. 377 00:20:49,351 --> 00:20:52,181 But other than that, it truly just... 378 00:20:52,699 --> 00:20:55,357 let's do this and get it done. Yeah. 379 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:56,910 Blood is drawn, 380 00:20:56,945 --> 00:21:00,949 uh, and then that blood is sent to a toxicology unit, 381 00:21:00,983 --> 00:21:04,228 so the initial autopsy didn't show much, 382 00:21:04,504 --> 00:21:07,196 you know, nothing much that you wouldn't be shocked 383 00:21:07,231 --> 00:21:08,784 a 50-year-old body would have. 384 00:21:08,819 --> 00:21:11,062 He was relatively healthy, you know. 385 00:21:11,097 --> 00:21:13,341 This isn't a man who should have died. 386 00:21:13,375 --> 00:21:15,550 [reporter] Although the official cause of death has yet 387 00:21:15,584 --> 00:21:17,345 to be determined, the coroner's office says 388 00:21:17,379 --> 00:21:19,381 it has everything needed to make a ruling 389 00:21:19,416 --> 00:21:22,073 -on why Jackson died. -We're still waiting 390 00:21:22,108 --> 00:21:24,352 for the toxicology reports 391 00:21:24,386 --> 00:21:28,977 and the further completion of all the reports 392 00:21:29,011 --> 00:21:31,324 -that are coming in. -[man] The body was removed... 393 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,327 It was weeks that went by, and we kept asking, 394 00:21:34,362 --> 00:21:36,156 "When are we going to hear from toxicology?" 395 00:21:36,191 --> 00:21:37,572 "When are we gonna hear?" 396 00:21:37,951 --> 00:21:39,021 We had a death, 397 00:21:39,056 --> 00:21:40,885 but we didn't have a criminal death yet. 398 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,958 [dramatic music playing] 399 00:21:47,685 --> 00:21:48,893 [woman] It's official. 400 00:21:48,928 --> 00:21:51,620 Michael Jackson's death was a homicide. 401 00:21:52,034 --> 00:21:53,381 [crowd cheering] 402 00:21:53,415 --> 00:21:55,866 [woman] The LA County coroner's office says 403 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:58,593 the cause of death was an acute intoxication 404 00:21:58,627 --> 00:22:00,319 from the anesthetic Propofol. 405 00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:03,356 [Orlando] Once the toxicology report came back, 406 00:22:03,391 --> 00:22:06,394 it gave us a lot more-- a lot more power 407 00:22:06,428 --> 00:22:08,292 behind our investigation. 408 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:12,883 Other than going on a hunch, now we're going on facts. 409 00:22:13,470 --> 00:22:16,438 [Dan] And then there became the idea of, how bad? 410 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,959 That was the big question, "How bad is this?" 411 00:22:21,063 --> 00:22:23,997 [Scott] Ultimately, the toxicology results, 412 00:22:24,204 --> 00:22:25,447 you had those over here 413 00:22:25,482 --> 00:22:27,863 and you have Dr. Murray's statement here, 414 00:22:27,898 --> 00:22:29,934 it just wasn't jiving. 415 00:22:29,969 --> 00:22:31,660 There was just no way 416 00:22:32,143 --> 00:22:37,459 that what he said was factual to what they found out. 417 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:42,775 He had enough Propofol in him to drop a rhinoceros. 418 00:22:43,085 --> 00:22:44,915 [Dan] He could no longer breathe on his own, 419 00:22:44,949 --> 00:22:47,158 and Murray had not set up an environment 420 00:22:47,538 --> 00:22:50,507 to allow for artificial means of breathing, 421 00:22:50,714 --> 00:22:54,511 which is reckless... gross negligence. 422 00:22:54,856 --> 00:23:00,379 [ambient music playing] 423 00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:09,457 [Orlando] This is a bottle that people pee into 424 00:23:09,491 --> 00:23:10,527 when they're bedridden. 425 00:23:10,561 --> 00:23:13,564 This was found at the bedside and it was full. 426 00:23:14,496 --> 00:23:16,291 He used the restroom 427 00:23:16,325 --> 00:23:18,086 without having to get out of bed. 428 00:23:18,293 --> 00:23:21,952 What it made us think was that he was completely incapacitated, 429 00:23:21,986 --> 00:23:26,301 that someone was caring for him to that extent. 430 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:31,030 Seeing things like this, I realized that... 431 00:23:32,825 --> 00:23:37,174 he wasn't being helped to fall asleep, 432 00:23:37,623 --> 00:23:39,797 he was being kept under. 433 00:23:39,832 --> 00:23:43,076 As a consequence, not having the strength 434 00:23:43,422 --> 00:23:47,115 or the ability to get up and go to the restroom, 435 00:23:47,149 --> 00:23:50,221 just take care of business and continue sleeping. 436 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,949 [woman 1] We stand up and fight for the doctor. 437 00:23:53,984 --> 00:23:55,157 [woman 2] We stand up for Michael. 438 00:23:55,192 --> 00:23:56,711 [woman 1] We fight for the doctor. 439 00:23:56,745 --> 00:23:58,367 [protesters] Justice for Michael! 440 00:23:58,402 --> 00:24:00,508 Justice for Michael! Justice for Michael! 441 00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:02,889 [Dan] What we did is we took our case, 442 00:24:02,924 --> 00:24:05,409 and this included all of our interviews, 443 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,929 all of our statements, and, most significantly, 444 00:24:07,963 --> 00:24:11,450 the toxicology reports and the autopsy reports. 445 00:24:11,795 --> 00:24:13,348 We had 11 physicians 446 00:24:13,382 --> 00:24:16,455 and I think five or six different specialties 447 00:24:16,972 --> 00:24:18,595 review this material 448 00:24:18,802 --> 00:24:20,873 and were asked to render an opinion. 449 00:24:21,183 --> 00:24:25,118 As I was looking for doctors to evaluate the level of care, 450 00:24:25,153 --> 00:24:26,913 I came across Dr. Shafer. 451 00:24:26,948 --> 00:24:31,400 He was instrumental in developing Propofol. 452 00:24:32,781 --> 00:24:36,233 [Shafer] I demonstrated that in statement after statement 453 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:39,201 after statement in Conrad Murray's interview, 454 00:24:39,685 --> 00:24:42,066 what he said made no sense, it was not possible. 455 00:24:42,101 --> 00:24:43,861 He just asserted things that were not true. 456 00:24:44,206 --> 00:24:47,175 He-- You would need a continuous drip 457 00:24:47,209 --> 00:24:50,247 of the Propofol and not a shot, not an injection 458 00:24:50,523 --> 00:24:53,388 like Dr. Murray had said he had used. 459 00:24:53,422 --> 00:24:55,494 It wears off really quickly. 460 00:24:58,427 --> 00:25:00,188 [Shafer] So what I'm simulating right here, 461 00:25:00,222 --> 00:25:03,087 uh, is the dose that Conrad Murray claims 462 00:25:03,122 --> 00:25:06,297 was available to Michael Jackson and the defense claimed, 463 00:25:06,332 --> 00:25:08,748 um, resulted in Michael Jackson's death, 464 00:25:08,783 --> 00:25:10,992 a dose of just 25 milligrams. 465 00:25:11,026 --> 00:25:12,959 Two and a half CCs of drug, which is ridiculous. 466 00:25:12,994 --> 00:25:14,374 It only lasts for a few seconds, 467 00:25:14,409 --> 00:25:16,480 and this was the whole point of the mathematics 468 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:17,446 that I presented, 469 00:25:17,481 --> 00:25:19,587 and the heart, of course, keeps pumping. 470 00:25:20,035 --> 00:25:22,797 So we know that there was a 100CC vial 471 00:25:22,831 --> 00:25:24,212 hanging over Michael Jackson. 472 00:25:24,246 --> 00:25:26,559 Knowing it was empty, we can see exactly 473 00:25:26,594 --> 00:25:31,081 how over a period of about 30 to 40 minutes 474 00:25:31,115 --> 00:25:33,566 it enters into a dose that would be associated 475 00:25:33,601 --> 00:25:36,396 with a lethal concentration of drug in a patient 476 00:25:36,431 --> 00:25:39,503 who wasn't being looked after, because they're really under 477 00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,885 pretty deep general anesthesia at that point in time, 478 00:25:42,299 --> 00:25:45,992 and this corresponds to having an empty 100ml vial 479 00:25:46,027 --> 00:25:48,132 hanging over Michael Jackson's head. 480 00:25:49,237 --> 00:25:51,411 And I thought, oh, my God, this is it. 481 00:25:51,446 --> 00:25:53,413 This is the smoking gun. This is actually 482 00:25:53,448 --> 00:25:55,623 the bottle of Propofol that killed Michael Jackson. 483 00:25:57,935 --> 00:26:02,871 [ambient music playing] 484 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,325 What we discovered was one of the IV bags 485 00:26:08,739 --> 00:26:10,258 had been emptied. 486 00:26:10,499 --> 00:26:13,882 One of the Propofol bottles had been upside down 487 00:26:13,917 --> 00:26:14,849 inside the bag. 488 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:18,956 There's a bottle of Propofol inside an IV bag? 489 00:26:19,301 --> 00:26:22,132 I mean one of the single weirdest details. 490 00:26:24,099 --> 00:26:27,516 [Orlando] There was a big tear, 491 00:26:27,862 --> 00:26:31,279 a pike or a needle that is large 492 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,834 would have broken the top of the Propofol bottle, 493 00:26:34,869 --> 00:26:37,078 so that it could drip freely down. 494 00:26:37,112 --> 00:26:39,356 Basically, Murray was using the saline bag 495 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:43,084 to hang the bottle of Propofol from the stand, 496 00:26:43,118 --> 00:26:44,603 but also I think to hide it, 497 00:26:44,637 --> 00:26:46,225 because he didn't want anybody to know 498 00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:47,467 he was using Propofol. 499 00:26:50,194 --> 00:26:53,128 So to get an idea of just how crazy this is, 500 00:26:53,163 --> 00:26:55,303 the anesthetic drugs are all dangerous, 501 00:26:55,337 --> 00:26:57,581 there is really no access 502 00:26:57,616 --> 00:27:00,515 outside of the healthcare setting. 503 00:27:01,896 --> 00:27:04,623 We have pumps that are set up that are precisely calibrated, 504 00:27:04,657 --> 00:27:06,625 and we precisely control the dose. 505 00:27:07,177 --> 00:27:09,489 He had an IV line coming down from here 506 00:27:09,524 --> 00:27:11,560 and it's got a little roller clamp on the side, 507 00:27:11,595 --> 00:27:13,355 and you just adjust this little roller clamp. 508 00:27:13,701 --> 00:27:17,152 It's a gravity-fed system, there is almost-- 509 00:27:17,187 --> 00:27:19,603 there's very little control on the rate of the drug, 510 00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:21,916 and that's what he was using. It's insane. 511 00:27:22,571 --> 00:27:26,575 Nobody trained in Propofol administration 512 00:27:27,231 --> 00:27:30,062 would not precisely control the infusion rate. 513 00:27:30,338 --> 00:27:32,236 Nobody trained in the use of Propofol 514 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,894 would ever walk away from a patient 515 00:27:34,929 --> 00:27:38,173 who is receiving Propofol as a continuous infusion. 516 00:27:38,691 --> 00:27:41,038 Physicians with no training in anesthesia 517 00:27:41,073 --> 00:27:43,144 have no business giving Propofol. 518 00:27:44,076 --> 00:27:45,940 [Orlando] So at that point, we knew 519 00:27:45,974 --> 00:27:49,322 this was not an honest mistake, 520 00:27:49,357 --> 00:27:55,052 but that this was on purpose, bad medicine. 521 00:27:55,328 --> 00:27:59,022 An MD degree is not a license 522 00:27:59,229 --> 00:28:01,334 to do whatever the hell you wanna do 523 00:28:01,369 --> 00:28:03,233 and just think you can get away with it. 524 00:28:03,267 --> 00:28:08,307 [dramatic music playing] 525 00:28:12,242 --> 00:28:14,451 One of the challenges in the investigation was 526 00:28:14,485 --> 00:28:16,971 the uncooperative witnesses. 527 00:28:17,592 --> 00:28:19,767 Um, one of those was Dr. Murray's girlfriend. 528 00:28:20,388 --> 00:28:23,943 Um, when we finally served the search warrant 529 00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:25,911 at the-- at her apartment, 530 00:28:26,187 --> 00:28:29,155 the whole place had been cleaned out. 531 00:28:29,466 --> 00:28:33,539 There was nothing to show that Dr. Murray had been there, 532 00:28:33,573 --> 00:28:37,094 stayed there, frequented there at all. 533 00:28:38,026 --> 00:28:43,307 Fortunately, they had missed behind one of the bookcases. 534 00:28:43,342 --> 00:28:44,619 Behind one of the bookcases, 535 00:28:44,653 --> 00:28:47,726 we found a receipt for a pharmacy. 536 00:28:49,417 --> 00:28:52,213 That led us to the Propofol. 537 00:28:55,941 --> 00:28:58,288 These items here are what we found 538 00:28:58,322 --> 00:29:00,842 at Nicole Alvarez's house. 539 00:29:01,153 --> 00:29:03,224 So it brings me back to remembering 540 00:29:03,258 --> 00:29:07,366 how, uh, difficult things were when dealing with her. 541 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,644 This business card and this receipt were 542 00:29:09,678 --> 00:29:13,993 the only things in his name at her place. 543 00:29:14,476 --> 00:29:17,479 This led us to the pharmacy. 544 00:29:21,483 --> 00:29:23,313 When we arrived at the pharmacy, 545 00:29:23,347 --> 00:29:25,867 the pharmacy had all the records ready. 546 00:29:26,247 --> 00:29:29,560 They had been following the news and they knew 547 00:29:29,595 --> 00:29:32,529 that the police would be there eventually. 548 00:29:32,563 --> 00:29:35,428 And as you go through, you can see all the amounts. 549 00:29:35,463 --> 00:29:38,017 One case of the 100ml bottles, 550 00:29:38,052 --> 00:29:40,468 one case of the 20ml bottles, 551 00:29:41,434 --> 00:29:45,680 in June, four cases of the 100ml bottles, 552 00:29:46,232 --> 00:29:48,614 all of the amounts, 553 00:29:48,648 --> 00:29:52,100 it's over five gallons worth of Propofol. 554 00:29:54,447 --> 00:29:58,244 [Shafer] A massive amount of Propofol, 555 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,489 a massive amount of Propofol was shipped 556 00:30:01,523 --> 00:30:03,215 to his girlfriend's house. 557 00:30:06,494 --> 00:30:08,220 [Scott] We found that there was other doctors 558 00:30:08,496 --> 00:30:09,704 that Michael had reached out to 559 00:30:09,877 --> 00:30:13,363 in hopes of, uh, being administered Propofol, 560 00:30:13,604 --> 00:30:15,606 and, uh, he was turned down. 561 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,782 [Dan] That relationship was a perfect storm. 562 00:30:19,162 --> 00:30:21,233 Michael first got introduced to Propofol 563 00:30:21,267 --> 00:30:23,649 through a dental procedure, and he liked it. 564 00:30:23,683 --> 00:30:26,341 He felt like, "Wow, this is the best way to go to sleep." 565 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,862 [Scott] That was his drug of choice, 566 00:30:30,690 --> 00:30:34,971 and he was looking for doctors that would administer that, 567 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:38,215 you know, as wrong as it was. 568 00:30:41,391 --> 00:30:45,015 [dramatic music playing] 569 00:30:45,050 --> 00:30:47,362 [Orlando] Usually, you think of a doctor as someone 570 00:30:47,397 --> 00:30:50,918 very successful and ethical and distinguished. 571 00:30:50,952 --> 00:30:57,269 Why they would risk a patient's life for anything, 572 00:30:57,303 --> 00:30:59,305 what would make it worth it? 573 00:31:05,139 --> 00:31:06,934 [Scott] We had search warrants out 574 00:31:06,968 --> 00:31:09,522 in, uh, Las Vegas, at his residence 575 00:31:09,798 --> 00:31:14,286 as well as his, uh, place of business in Las Vegas 576 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,806 and then his office, uh, out in Houston, Texas. 577 00:31:21,258 --> 00:31:26,160 [Orlando] We get into finances, we get into business dealings, 578 00:31:26,194 --> 00:31:28,783 and his relationships. 579 00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:29,749 We executed a search warrant 580 00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:32,235 down at the Armstrong Medical Clinic this morning 581 00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:34,237 with members from the DEA 582 00:31:34,271 --> 00:31:36,101 and the Houston Police Department 583 00:31:36,135 --> 00:31:39,794 and, uh, we are from LAPD Robbery/Homicide division. 584 00:31:40,450 --> 00:31:41,934 [Dan] He had several children, 585 00:31:41,969 --> 00:31:45,282 we would learn several of them by several different wives. 586 00:31:46,387 --> 00:31:50,529 He would go out to places of adult entertainment 587 00:31:50,563 --> 00:31:53,670 and spend outrageous amounts of money. 588 00:31:53,981 --> 00:31:55,154 He would put on a show 589 00:31:55,189 --> 00:31:58,433 and not be able to support it financially. 590 00:31:59,089 --> 00:32:02,196 He would leverage his closeness to a celebrity 591 00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:05,440 to manipulate young women into relationships with him. 592 00:32:06,614 --> 00:32:09,237 [Dan] We knew that he had purchased a home in October, 593 00:32:09,582 --> 00:32:13,172 in Las Vegas, uh, for over a million dollars, 594 00:32:13,690 --> 00:32:16,520 and his mortgage was $10,000 a month, 595 00:32:17,107 --> 00:32:19,385 and he had stopped paying it. 596 00:32:25,012 --> 00:32:28,118 [dramatic music playing] 597 00:32:29,016 --> 00:32:34,331 He... had censures from different states 598 00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:36,816 where he had-- he practiced medicine. 599 00:32:36,851 --> 00:32:39,267 [dramatic music playing] 600 00:32:39,302 --> 00:32:41,856 [Orlando] With these different medical boards, they sent us 601 00:32:41,890 --> 00:32:46,240 the files of the complaints and the penalties 602 00:32:46,274 --> 00:32:49,001 that they would impose on Dr. Murray 603 00:32:49,036 --> 00:32:51,486 when he would violate their rules. 604 00:32:53,488 --> 00:32:58,148 We saw a pattern of sloppy behavior. 605 00:33:00,254 --> 00:33:02,394 [Scott] A private physician to Michael Jackson 606 00:33:02,428 --> 00:33:06,950 and here he is, uh, just an absolute mess, 607 00:33:06,985 --> 00:33:09,815 you know, yeah, surprising. 608 00:33:19,687 --> 00:33:24,105 [Orlando] This is what I recovered from, uh, his car, 609 00:33:24,140 --> 00:33:25,555 the doctor's car. 610 00:33:25,796 --> 00:33:29,731 [dramatic music playing] 611 00:33:31,078 --> 00:33:35,116 This was the contract uh, as we first found it. 612 00:33:35,151 --> 00:33:37,256 The agreement between Dr. Murray, 613 00:33:37,291 --> 00:33:40,259 AEG, and, uh, Mr. Jackson. 614 00:33:40,294 --> 00:33:42,641 "The producer shall remit payment to Dr. Murray 615 00:33:42,675 --> 00:33:46,300 in the amount of $150,000 per month." 616 00:33:48,095 --> 00:33:52,133 So this is where the money came into it. 617 00:33:52,478 --> 00:33:56,551 [crowd cheering] 618 00:33:57,035 --> 00:33:59,589 [Scott] Michael had started working, 619 00:33:59,623 --> 00:34:03,006 preparing for this huge comeback tour, 620 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:06,078 and that's when he had reached out, Michael, 621 00:34:06,285 --> 00:34:11,187 and, uh, told AEG that he wanted Conrad Murray with him. 622 00:34:11,221 --> 00:34:13,568 And, initially, AEG was like, you know, 623 00:34:13,603 --> 00:34:15,398 London is not a third world country, 624 00:34:15,432 --> 00:34:17,124 they have fabulous doctors over there, 625 00:34:17,158 --> 00:34:19,091 what do you need your own physician for? 626 00:34:20,713 --> 00:34:23,544 [Dan] And Michael's response to his managers were, 627 00:34:23,751 --> 00:34:26,305 "Listen, the President of the Unites States 628 00:34:26,340 --> 00:34:28,514 has a physician travel with him, 629 00:34:28,549 --> 00:34:30,689 I want a physician to travel with me." 630 00:34:31,345 --> 00:34:34,693 [Scott] Dr. Murray agreed to go ahead and accompany him, 631 00:34:34,727 --> 00:34:37,661 and, uh, provide Michael with what he wanted. 632 00:34:39,180 --> 00:34:42,873 [Orlando] So he needed this gig with Mr. Jackson, 633 00:34:43,357 --> 00:34:47,257 either to pay off or to keep up with his debts. 634 00:34:48,534 --> 00:34:50,536 [Dan] He had the right motive. 635 00:34:51,606 --> 00:34:53,091 He needed money. 636 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,136 [dramatic music playing] 637 00:35:05,172 --> 00:35:07,312 [indistinct radio chatter] 638 00:35:07,726 --> 00:35:09,486 [Scott] Ultimately, the decision was made 639 00:35:09,521 --> 00:35:13,559 to, uh, charge Dr. Murray with involuntary manslaughter, 640 00:35:13,594 --> 00:35:16,631 as opposed to second-degree murder. 641 00:35:28,885 --> 00:35:33,131 The DA's office didn't want another high-profile failure. 642 00:35:34,339 --> 00:35:37,480 It was an election year for the district attorney. 643 00:35:37,756 --> 00:35:38,964 I think it was a-- 644 00:35:39,344 --> 00:35:41,277 I don't wanna say the lazy way out, 645 00:35:42,278 --> 00:35:44,935 uh, but again, a manslaughter charge was, you know, 646 00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:46,316 the path of least resistance. 647 00:35:46,351 --> 00:35:49,147 The family wasn't happy with it at all. 648 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:56,844 Mrs. Jackson was just beside herself 649 00:35:57,085 --> 00:36:00,192 that it wasn't going to be a second-degree murder file. 650 00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:04,023 [Dan] We felt the evidence suggests 651 00:36:04,058 --> 00:36:05,370 that it was a second degree. 652 00:36:07,648 --> 00:36:10,685 The level of his negligence was just so clear 653 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:13,688 that we thought that it would apply. 654 00:36:15,690 --> 00:36:17,209 We do not charge people, 655 00:36:17,416 --> 00:36:19,936 we investigate the case and we present it. 656 00:36:20,212 --> 00:36:21,869 We were not happy with the choice, 657 00:36:21,903 --> 00:36:26,218 but we deal with what we can and, uh, we move forward. 658 00:36:29,428 --> 00:36:32,397 [Scott] When I felt a little pressure, I guess, 659 00:36:32,431 --> 00:36:35,262 is when it came time to arrest Dr. Murray. 660 00:36:38,713 --> 00:36:41,026 [Dan] We wanted to see Murray in handcuffs, 661 00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:42,614 and I think a lot, you know, 662 00:36:42,648 --> 00:36:44,478 of people wanted to see him in handcuffs. 663 00:36:48,275 --> 00:36:50,380 [Scott] His attorneys didn't want Dr. Murray 664 00:36:50,415 --> 00:36:52,762 to be seen in handcuffs in public, 665 00:36:53,521 --> 00:36:55,454 because that's not good for his image. 666 00:36:56,421 --> 00:36:58,768 Neither is killing somebody but... 667 00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:05,533 [Orlando] Behind our backs, the DA's office made 668 00:37:05,568 --> 00:37:09,157 that agreement with Dr. Murray's attorneys. 669 00:37:09,192 --> 00:37:11,677 [crowd shouting] 670 00:37:11,884 --> 00:37:13,403 [Scott] The doctor turned himself in, 671 00:37:13,438 --> 00:37:15,025 voluntary surrender. 672 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:17,027 [camera shutters clicking] 673 00:37:17,062 --> 00:37:20,065 You know, I'm of the opinion that regardless of who you are, 674 00:37:20,099 --> 00:37:21,791 or what walk of life you come from, 675 00:37:22,343 --> 00:37:24,172 uh, if you've done wrong, 676 00:37:24,207 --> 00:37:26,451 then you need to answer for that. 677 00:37:27,935 --> 00:37:33,458 [dramatic music playing] 678 00:37:34,873 --> 00:37:36,461 I am an innocent man. 679 00:37:37,082 --> 00:37:39,878 I, therefore, plead not guilty. 680 00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:42,777 Again, he feels he'd done nothing wrong, 681 00:37:42,812 --> 00:37:43,847 it wasn't his fault. 682 00:37:43,882 --> 00:37:46,298 He's just-- He's an arrogant individual. 683 00:37:50,923 --> 00:37:57,378 [dramatic music playing] 684 00:37:58,517 --> 00:38:00,588 [David] Conrad Murray, figuratively 685 00:38:00,830 --> 00:38:06,663 and literally, abandoned Michael Jackson. 686 00:38:06,698 --> 00:38:08,216 We look at Murray's phone records. 687 00:38:08,251 --> 00:38:10,564 That was a big, huge piece. 688 00:38:10,598 --> 00:38:14,430 We could see Murray on his phone at certain times. 689 00:38:14,982 --> 00:38:20,712 He left this vulnerable man filled with Valium, 690 00:38:20,746 --> 00:38:23,680 and Midazolam, and Lorazepam, and Propofol, 691 00:38:23,715 --> 00:38:26,131 with no medical monitoring equipment, 692 00:38:26,165 --> 00:38:28,306 no necessary resuscitative equipment. 693 00:38:28,823 --> 00:38:31,792 He left him there, abandoned him 694 00:38:32,517 --> 00:38:33,932 to fend for himself. 695 00:38:34,381 --> 00:38:36,210 So as far as stepping away for a minute 696 00:38:36,244 --> 00:38:37,832 and going to the bathroom and coming back 697 00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:41,319 and, "Oh, my gosh, Michael's dead," no. 698 00:38:41,526 --> 00:38:46,462 He was sending emails, reviewing a contract, 699 00:38:47,394 --> 00:38:52,709 and he was also on the telephone with various people. 700 00:38:52,744 --> 00:38:54,711 While he was on the phone, 701 00:38:54,746 --> 00:38:57,335 he realized that Mr. Jackson was not breathing. 702 00:38:57,645 --> 00:39:00,338 I heard, um, mumbling of voices, 703 00:39:00,372 --> 00:39:02,616 it sounded like the phone was maybe in his pocket 704 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:04,376 or something, it was... [imitates noise] 705 00:39:04,411 --> 00:39:05,860 and I heard coughing. 706 00:39:05,895 --> 00:39:08,587 We looked at the timelines of the 911 call. 707 00:39:08,622 --> 00:39:11,141 It was, I think, around 20 to 25 minutes 708 00:39:11,176 --> 00:39:13,385 after that call with Sade Anding. 709 00:39:13,834 --> 00:39:16,008 [Orlando] Mr. Murray started cleaning up 710 00:39:16,043 --> 00:39:17,458 the mess that he had left, 711 00:39:17,493 --> 00:39:21,013 covering up the medical treatment that he was giving, 712 00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:22,325 put that away, 713 00:39:23,568 --> 00:39:28,400 called for help from security, directed them to call 911 714 00:39:28,435 --> 00:39:32,059 while he gave ineffective, one-handed CPR... 715 00:39:34,268 --> 00:39:36,926 and then travelled to the hospital 716 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,686 with Mr. Jackson. 717 00:39:40,757 --> 00:39:44,382 Dr. Murray fled the hospital before we arrived, 718 00:39:45,141 --> 00:39:47,592 waited a couple of days to get his story straight, 719 00:39:48,144 --> 00:39:51,043 and, ultimately, 720 00:39:51,319 --> 00:39:54,599 was, uh, prosecuted for his conduct. 721 00:39:54,806 --> 00:39:57,567 [woman] We the jury in the above-entitled action 722 00:39:57,602 --> 00:40:01,019 find the defendant, Conrad Robert Murray, 723 00:40:01,053 --> 00:40:05,195 guilty of the crime of involuntary manslaughter. 724 00:40:05,230 --> 00:40:08,440 [crowd cheering] 725 00:40:23,662 --> 00:40:25,181 That's how that turned out. 726 00:40:26,285 --> 00:40:32,119 [dramatic music playing] 727 00:40:32,499 --> 00:40:34,604 [Dan] Should it have been a second-degree murder? 728 00:40:34,639 --> 00:40:36,537 Yeah, I think it could have been. 729 00:40:36,848 --> 00:40:39,437 Unfortunately, that is not a choice 730 00:40:39,471 --> 00:40:41,059 that we were able to make. 731 00:40:44,925 --> 00:40:46,858 The biggest thing is that he does not get 732 00:40:46,892 --> 00:40:49,999 his medical license back in any state, 733 00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,346 and I-- I personally don't see that happening. 734 00:40:52,898 --> 00:40:55,694 And I'm just trying to keep it light and polite here, 735 00:40:55,729 --> 00:40:59,042 uh, but yeah. He's-- He's in his own world, 736 00:40:59,387 --> 00:41:01,597 he's in his own world, Dr. Murray. 737 00:41:03,288 --> 00:41:08,155 [dramatic music playing] 738 00:41:20,995 --> 00:41:22,376 [Orlando] I think that this case, 739 00:41:22,410 --> 00:41:24,102 we actually had the answers. 740 00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:27,968 We won't be in that book of unsolved murders, 741 00:41:28,002 --> 00:41:29,832 all the big ones where we've failed. 742 00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:32,455 At least my name won't be, uh, put-- 743 00:41:32,490 --> 00:41:35,078 put in the same place as those. 744 00:41:41,153 --> 00:41:43,224 It's something I'll never forget, obviously, 745 00:41:43,259 --> 00:41:44,709 for the rest of my life. 746 00:41:44,743 --> 00:41:49,403 Uh, one hell of an experience. Yeah, no regrets. 747 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,516 In big cases like this, um, sometimes, you know, 748 00:41:58,550 --> 00:42:01,380 friendships can really dissolve, but not in this case. 749 00:42:01,415 --> 00:42:04,763 It was, uh, we all lived happily ever after. 750 00:42:06,972 --> 00:42:10,320 [dramatic music playing] 751 00:42:10,597 --> 00:42:12,564 [Orlando] As soon as this one was over, 752 00:42:12,599 --> 00:42:16,016 it comes to, "This is what we expect of you." 753 00:42:16,361 --> 00:42:19,502 You get your next murder and you move forward. 754 00:42:25,991 --> 00:42:28,097 [Orlando] About four years after the trial, 755 00:42:28,131 --> 00:42:30,617 I was driving home, uh, from work. 756 00:42:31,341 --> 00:42:35,138 I look over to my left and I see this green, 757 00:42:35,345 --> 00:42:38,176 older, nice Mercedes. 758 00:42:41,006 --> 00:42:43,940 I feel someone staring at me. 759 00:42:46,633 --> 00:42:48,566 I look over and it's the same car, 760 00:42:48,773 --> 00:42:50,153 and I see Dr. Murray. 761 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:55,055 It took me a few seconds to register that it was him, 762 00:42:55,642 --> 00:42:58,265 and by that time our cars had separated, 763 00:42:58,299 --> 00:43:00,094 but I never saw any double takes 764 00:43:00,129 --> 00:43:02,890 or any instant moment of recognition. 765 00:43:05,168 --> 00:43:06,687 At that time, I was-- I wondered 766 00:43:07,032 --> 00:43:10,415 whether or not he would start practicing medicine again. 767 00:43:11,623 --> 00:43:15,972 Do you give someone like that a second chance? 768 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:18,216 Someone who's done their time 769 00:43:18,423 --> 00:43:20,701 for the crime that they've committed. 770 00:43:24,222 --> 00:43:26,845 When do you let it go? 771 00:43:27,674 --> 00:43:31,505 [dramatic music playing]