1 00:00:00,780 --> 00:00:03,783 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:14,173 --> 00:00:15,312 [crowd cheering] 3 00:00:15,346 --> 00:00:17,452 Michael! Michael! Michael! 4 00:00:20,179 --> 00:00:24,217 [dramatic music playing] 5 00:00:51,002 --> 00:00:53,384 [phone rings] 6 00:00:53,419 --> 00:00:55,593 [operator] ...what is your emergency? 7 00:00:55,628 --> 00:00:57,250 [caller] Yes, sir, I need to-- I, uh, 8 00:00:57,285 --> 00:00:59,494 I need an ambulance as soon as possible, sir, 9 00:00:59,528 --> 00:01:02,911 I have-- We have a gentleman here that needs help, 10 00:01:02,945 --> 00:01:04,430 and he's stopped breathing. 11 00:01:04,464 --> 00:01:08,951 [dramatic music playing] 12 00:01:15,199 --> 00:01:17,546 [Scott] You're talking about Michael Jackson here. 13 00:01:18,789 --> 00:01:20,584 It was absolutely huge. 14 00:01:21,585 --> 00:01:23,725 [Orlando] There was a lot of pressure 15 00:01:23,759 --> 00:01:24,726 to get it right. 16 00:01:24,967 --> 00:01:29,179 [suspenseful music playing] 17 00:01:31,181 --> 00:01:33,562 This isn't a man who should have died. 18 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:39,948 [caller] He's stopped breathing, he's not breathing, 19 00:01:39,982 --> 00:01:41,743 and we need to-- we're trying to pump him, 20 00:01:41,777 --> 00:01:43,779 -but he's not-- he's not-- -[operator] Okay. 21 00:01:43,814 --> 00:01:44,884 Okay, how old is he? 22 00:01:44,918 --> 00:01:46,713 [caller] He's, uh, 50 years old, sir. 23 00:01:46,748 --> 00:01:47,576 [operator] Fifty? Okay. 24 00:01:48,715 --> 00:01:49,578 He's unconscious, he's not breathing? 25 00:01:49,613 --> 00:01:50,993 [caller] Yes, he's not breathing. 26 00:01:51,028 --> 00:01:52,512 [Richard] When we were dispatched 27 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:55,101 to a 50-year-old male, cardiac arrest, 28 00:01:55,550 --> 00:01:57,759 we think, "This is a viable patient." 29 00:01:57,793 --> 00:02:01,038 "This is someone if we get to in a timely manner we can save." 30 00:02:01,659 --> 00:02:03,351 And then, when I enter this room, 31 00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:06,561 opulent room, with medical equipment in it, 32 00:02:06,871 --> 00:02:08,839 I realize there's something unusual here. 33 00:02:08,873 --> 00:02:12,118 What 50-year-old male would be laying in bed at noon 34 00:02:12,429 --> 00:02:13,775 with medical equipment? 35 00:02:14,189 --> 00:02:16,260 We're not looking at the patient at that moment. 36 00:02:17,296 --> 00:02:18,504 Till my partner did. 37 00:02:18,711 --> 00:02:20,782 He looked up and whispered the name, 38 00:02:21,231 --> 00:02:22,577 Michael Jackson. 39 00:02:23,302 --> 00:02:25,821 When I realized who it was, 40 00:02:26,719 --> 00:02:28,376 I was surprised. 41 00:02:28,583 --> 00:02:32,000 We had no idea he was there. None of us had any idea 42 00:02:32,034 --> 00:02:33,346 he was living in our neighborhood. 43 00:02:33,381 --> 00:02:34,589 [operator] Um...[clears throat] 44 00:02:34,623 --> 00:02:37,039 Where did-- Did anybody witness what happened? 45 00:02:37,074 --> 00:02:39,076 [caller] Um, no, just the doctor, sir. 46 00:02:39,249 --> 00:02:40,836 There was a man with our patient 47 00:02:40,871 --> 00:02:43,045 who identified himself as the doctor, 48 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,427 and, as such, I immediately asked him 49 00:02:45,462 --> 00:02:48,119 some information, what had happened? 50 00:02:48,154 --> 00:02:50,121 How long has this been going on? 51 00:02:50,674 --> 00:02:53,953 And he told me then that it had just happened. 52 00:02:54,298 --> 00:02:56,507 This was a patient to me that it seemed 53 00:02:56,542 --> 00:02:58,889 that he had not just passed away, 54 00:02:58,923 --> 00:03:02,203 that some time had gone by before we were notified. 55 00:03:03,031 --> 00:03:05,033 And, in fact, later 56 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:08,243 when you're reflecting on this call, 57 00:03:08,519 --> 00:03:10,659 the days, the weeks, the months afterwards, 58 00:03:10,694 --> 00:03:13,697 one of the greatest regrets that all of us had 59 00:03:13,731 --> 00:03:15,526 was that we had not been called sooner. 60 00:03:15,561 --> 00:03:18,460 [dramatic music playing] 61 00:03:18,495 --> 00:03:21,877 When we came outside, that's when we became aware 62 00:03:21,912 --> 00:03:23,051 of a very large presence. 63 00:03:23,293 --> 00:03:25,226 We were trying to back out on the street 64 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:28,712 only to be hindered by many, many cameramen 65 00:03:28,746 --> 00:03:31,128 putting their lenses against the glass windows 66 00:03:31,162 --> 00:03:32,681 of the moving ambulance. 67 00:03:34,407 --> 00:03:38,998 [dramatic music playing] 68 00:03:41,449 --> 00:03:43,244 Michael! Michael! 69 00:03:43,278 --> 00:03:45,038 [Scott] People seem to forget or don't realize 70 00:03:45,073 --> 00:03:48,525 about this investigation, it was a death investigation. 71 00:03:48,559 --> 00:03:52,080 There really wasn't a crime, um, at the time. 72 00:03:53,875 --> 00:03:56,360 [Orlando] From the information that I had, it was probably 73 00:03:56,395 --> 00:03:59,570 an accident or natural, and we would find out 74 00:03:59,605 --> 00:04:02,435 that he had some pre-existing medical condition 75 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:05,058 and then we would be done. 76 00:04:05,852 --> 00:04:09,442 [Dan] Just look at what we knew in the first hours of this. 77 00:04:09,718 --> 00:04:12,342 Taken to the hospital, there wasn't a bloody knife, 78 00:04:12,652 --> 00:04:16,380 there wasn't a smoking gun, there was nothing on the surface 79 00:04:16,415 --> 00:04:18,175 that would lead anyone to believe 80 00:04:18,209 --> 00:04:20,004 anything nefarious had occurred. 81 00:04:21,696 --> 00:04:24,077 [Orlando] When I arrived at the hospital, 82 00:04:24,112 --> 00:04:25,700 Dr. Murray was gone, 83 00:04:26,356 --> 00:04:29,497 so he was no longer there at the scene. 84 00:04:29,911 --> 00:04:31,947 [Scott] We're in a bit of a panic then, 85 00:04:32,327 --> 00:04:35,572 uh, the one person that was in the room with him at the time 86 00:04:35,606 --> 00:04:38,333 that everything happened is no longer at the hospital. 87 00:04:38,368 --> 00:04:40,128 There were several attempts right away 88 00:04:40,162 --> 00:04:43,338 to get a hold of Dr. Murray, uh, that were negative, 89 00:04:43,373 --> 00:04:45,133 that he-- they were going to voicemail. 90 00:04:45,961 --> 00:04:47,446 [Scott] We had family members, 91 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,379 Jackson family members coming in, 92 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:53,348 and people wanting some questions answered, 93 00:04:53,383 --> 00:04:54,556 as well as us. 94 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:58,698 [Jermaine] It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest 95 00:04:58,733 --> 00:04:59,527 in his home. 96 00:05:00,631 --> 00:05:05,153 A team of doctors, including emergency physicians 97 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:09,191 and cardiologists, attempted to resuscitate him. 98 00:05:09,537 --> 00:05:11,573 [Orlando] The emergency room physician, 99 00:05:11,608 --> 00:05:14,231 they believed it was a heart attack, 100 00:05:14,542 --> 00:05:17,717 partly because of what Mr. Murray had told them. 101 00:05:18,166 --> 00:05:21,687 Never told them anything about any other narcotics 102 00:05:21,721 --> 00:05:25,104 or anything. They just believed he had had a heart attack 103 00:05:25,138 --> 00:05:26,933 and stopped breathing. 104 00:05:26,968 --> 00:05:30,592 [dramatic music playing] 105 00:05:35,390 --> 00:05:39,187 So here we are at the Carolwood house. 106 00:05:47,437 --> 00:05:48,990 That day... 107 00:05:49,577 --> 00:05:51,372 by the time I got here, 108 00:05:53,063 --> 00:05:56,894 we had to block off this side of the street, 109 00:05:57,239 --> 00:06:01,968 the entrance side of the street, and it was full of media vans. 110 00:06:03,970 --> 00:06:05,558 We had never seen anything like it. 111 00:06:05,593 --> 00:06:07,077 I had never seen anything like it. 112 00:06:07,318 --> 00:06:11,012 [suspenseful music playing] 113 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:24,819 [Orlando] There was the room 114 00:06:24,853 --> 00:06:27,994 where Dr. Murray treated Mr. Jackson, 115 00:06:28,201 --> 00:06:29,962 and then there was a locked room, 116 00:06:29,996 --> 00:06:32,965 which was, uh, Mr. Jackson's bedroom. 117 00:06:32,999 --> 00:06:36,417 [dramatic music playing] 118 00:06:36,727 --> 00:06:39,350 There was a fireplace in the room and it was roaring, 119 00:06:39,592 --> 00:06:42,077 so the room was very, very hot. 120 00:06:43,009 --> 00:06:47,324 There were, like, Post-it notes or pieces of paper taped, 121 00:06:47,358 --> 00:06:51,121 uh, all over the room on mirrors, on doors 122 00:06:51,639 --> 00:06:53,606 with little slogans and phrases. 123 00:06:53,641 --> 00:06:56,229 I don't know if they were lyrics or thoughts, 124 00:06:56,264 --> 00:06:59,647 or some of them seemed like poems. 125 00:07:00,337 --> 00:07:02,615 The bedroom was... 126 00:07:04,859 --> 00:07:06,308 it was a mess. 127 00:07:11,624 --> 00:07:14,455 In the room where he was being treated, 128 00:07:14,869 --> 00:07:18,355 it did not seem like a room fit 129 00:07:18,389 --> 00:07:19,874 for any type of medical treatment. 130 00:07:20,530 --> 00:07:24,879 Not even like a home, makeshift medical suite. 131 00:07:24,913 --> 00:07:27,468 It was just... bare bones. 132 00:07:27,744 --> 00:07:32,196 I just remember going in there and there was an IV stand 133 00:07:32,231 --> 00:07:34,440 and a saline bag 134 00:07:34,475 --> 00:07:38,306 and just various medications strewn about. 135 00:07:41,343 --> 00:07:44,139 [Orlando] There was a computer on the bed, 136 00:07:44,346 --> 00:07:49,282 there was a lifelike, uh, doll on the bed, 137 00:07:49,766 --> 00:07:55,910 and kind of like advertisements of, uh, pictures with babies. 138 00:07:57,670 --> 00:08:01,467 Everybody knew about the allegations 139 00:08:01,502 --> 00:08:03,089 that had been leveled 140 00:08:03,124 --> 00:08:04,677 against Mr. Jackson over the years. 141 00:08:06,645 --> 00:08:09,786 One of the things when I saw the laptop on the bed, 142 00:08:10,372 --> 00:08:11,891 do I go into it? 143 00:08:12,098 --> 00:08:15,516 But... you have to realize 144 00:08:15,792 --> 00:08:17,690 the type of case I was investigating. 145 00:08:17,725 --> 00:08:21,314 When you get, you know, hold of an investigation, 146 00:08:21,522 --> 00:08:25,249 you have to kind of whittle out 147 00:08:25,595 --> 00:08:27,528 what is and what isn't. 148 00:08:31,359 --> 00:08:34,500 [Dan] It's like with any case, um, you don't allow 149 00:08:34,535 --> 00:08:38,159 whatever the victim was into prior to his death. 150 00:08:38,573 --> 00:08:42,404 Your investigation is focused on, "How did he die?" 151 00:08:42,784 --> 00:08:45,062 and "Who was responsible for it?" 152 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 [Orlando] In the room where he was being treated, 153 00:08:50,551 --> 00:08:52,932 a bottle of Propofol... 154 00:08:53,968 --> 00:08:56,108 had fallen on the ground 155 00:08:56,142 --> 00:08:59,732 and rolled under this moving nightstand. 156 00:09:01,492 --> 00:09:03,011 I didn't know what it did. 157 00:09:04,185 --> 00:09:06,877 That ended up being a huge deal later. 158 00:09:07,637 --> 00:09:09,846 I had no medical background whatsoever. 159 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:13,884 My neighbor was a doctor, so I went to my neighbor 160 00:09:14,505 --> 00:09:16,093 and I asked him about it, 161 00:09:16,404 --> 00:09:21,409 and my neighbor was the one who got it started of, 162 00:09:22,065 --> 00:09:25,171 "Whoa, what is this doing here?" 163 00:09:25,447 --> 00:09:27,484 "This is only used in surgeries, 164 00:09:27,518 --> 00:09:30,383 this is used to put people under." 165 00:09:34,629 --> 00:09:37,528 [ambient music playing] 166 00:09:46,054 --> 00:09:47,953 [Orlando] We had put it out in the press 167 00:09:47,987 --> 00:09:51,059 that we were looking for Dr. Murray. 168 00:09:52,405 --> 00:09:53,441 We still didn't think 169 00:09:53,475 --> 00:09:55,408 that there was anything criminal going on. 170 00:09:55,857 --> 00:09:59,447 The only thing that we knew was this surgery drug 171 00:09:59,689 --> 00:10:01,000 was at the location 172 00:10:01,035 --> 00:10:02,450 and it shouldn't have been there. 173 00:10:03,140 --> 00:10:05,108 The next day, we get a call. 174 00:10:05,142 --> 00:10:07,213 His attorney has been in contact. 175 00:10:07,628 --> 00:10:09,284 He consents to an interview. 176 00:10:10,803 --> 00:10:12,633 So our plan was to let him talk, 177 00:10:13,081 --> 00:10:15,428 and, uh, that's what we did. 178 00:10:18,224 --> 00:10:22,228 [Orlando, on recording] So, um, how long have you been a doctor 179 00:10:22,263 --> 00:10:23,574 for Mr. Jackson? 180 00:10:25,887 --> 00:10:27,682 [Conrad, on recording] I first, um, started 181 00:10:27,717 --> 00:10:30,029 attending to him in 2006. 182 00:10:30,271 --> 00:10:32,791 [Orlando] And it was continuous, 2006 on? 183 00:10:32,825 --> 00:10:35,034 -[Conrad] No. Well, no. -[Orlando] Or on and off? 184 00:10:35,069 --> 00:10:36,760 [Conrad] Off and on, intermittent. 185 00:10:36,795 --> 00:10:37,830 [Orlando] Okay. 186 00:10:37,865 --> 00:10:39,625 We didn't know what happened, 187 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:41,938 we didn't want to assume anything, 188 00:10:41,972 --> 00:10:46,287 and we wanted to give the doctor an opportunity 189 00:10:46,321 --> 00:10:48,807 to dig his own hole, if that was the case. 190 00:10:48,841 --> 00:10:50,636 [interviewer] So it's just you and Michael? 191 00:10:50,671 --> 00:10:52,224 [Conrad] Usually, that's how it is. 192 00:10:52,258 --> 00:10:54,433 [interviewer] Okay. On this night, it was just you 193 00:10:54,467 --> 00:10:56,228 -and Michael? -[Conrad] Just myself and him. 194 00:10:56,262 --> 00:10:58,540 [Scott] And he proceeded to tell us that, you know, 195 00:10:58,575 --> 00:11:01,164 Michael just couldn't sleep, he was just so amped up 196 00:11:01,198 --> 00:11:03,545 about this upcoming concert. 197 00:11:04,443 --> 00:11:06,376 He, by nature, 198 00:11:06,687 --> 00:11:08,136 had a hard time sleeping. 199 00:11:08,723 --> 00:11:12,037 He gave him some drugs. 200 00:11:12,071 --> 00:11:16,282 [Scott] Some Valium, Lorazepam, and Diazepam, 201 00:11:16,317 --> 00:11:18,388 and a few others to try and calm Michael to try 202 00:11:18,422 --> 00:11:20,701 and get him to rest, to fall asleep, 203 00:11:20,735 --> 00:11:24,187 -and nothing works. -[Conrad] He was wide awake. 204 00:11:24,221 --> 00:11:26,292 I said, "Do you feel a little bit drowsy?" 205 00:11:26,327 --> 00:11:28,743 "Do you think your eyes are telling you 206 00:11:28,778 --> 00:11:31,884 you wanna sleep?" He said, "No." 207 00:11:33,023 --> 00:11:35,854 Dr. Murray says, "You know, after trying 208 00:11:35,888 --> 00:11:38,270 all these various things, nothing was working, 209 00:11:38,304 --> 00:11:41,376 and it's in the early morning hours of the next day 210 00:11:41,411 --> 00:11:44,897 and, uh, so finally, I just gave Michael his milk." 211 00:11:44,932 --> 00:11:47,348 [Conrad] At that time, he said, well, um... 212 00:11:49,591 --> 00:11:53,354 "I'd like to have... some milk." 213 00:11:53,941 --> 00:11:54,976 [Orlando] Milk? 214 00:11:55,563 --> 00:11:57,841 Hot, cold milk? What are we talking about? 215 00:11:57,876 --> 00:12:00,085 He says, "Oh, well, that's a-- it's a medication. 216 00:12:00,119 --> 00:12:02,294 Does the medication have a name? 217 00:12:02,328 --> 00:12:04,537 He says, "Well, it's Propofol." 218 00:12:04,745 --> 00:12:08,127 And this was again a big revelation 219 00:12:08,334 --> 00:12:11,786 during this interview that Propofol's mentioned. 220 00:12:12,028 --> 00:12:14,616 [Scott, on recording] And what is this, uh, Propofol? 221 00:12:14,651 --> 00:12:17,412 [Conrad] It is a sedative 222 00:12:18,517 --> 00:12:22,314 that can also be used for anesthesia. 223 00:12:23,729 --> 00:12:28,699 He freely admits that for months he's been using this 224 00:12:28,734 --> 00:12:31,185 to help Mr. Jackson sleep. 225 00:12:32,013 --> 00:12:33,394 [Scott] Okay. You've administered it 226 00:12:33,428 --> 00:12:35,120 -more than ten times? -[Conrad] Yes. 227 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:36,604 [Scott] More than 20 times? 228 00:12:36,811 --> 00:12:39,987 [Conrad] Thirty days a month roughly, every day. 229 00:12:40,021 --> 00:12:42,852 -[Orlando] So it's a daily-- -[Scott] A daily. 230 00:12:42,886 --> 00:12:46,959 In my head I was thinking what the heck. 231 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:52,447 To drug someone to sleep, even with their permission, 232 00:12:53,138 --> 00:12:54,553 the way that he did. 233 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,106 I didn't think it was legal. 234 00:12:56,141 --> 00:13:00,041 [Conrad] I monitored. I sat there and watched him 235 00:13:00,593 --> 00:13:03,596 for long enough a period that I felt was comfortable. 236 00:13:04,390 --> 00:13:09,395 [Orlando] He gave him Propofol and then goes to the bathroom, 237 00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:12,985 comes back, Mr. Jackson's not breathing. 238 00:13:13,020 --> 00:13:17,645 [Conrad] So I started immediately to perform CPR 239 00:13:18,266 --> 00:13:20,717 and mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. 240 00:13:22,270 --> 00:13:24,065 He goes into a panic, 241 00:13:24,859 --> 00:13:28,967 uh, he tries CPR while Michael's on the bed, 242 00:13:29,381 --> 00:13:33,040 he summons Alberto Alvarez, the head of security, 243 00:13:33,454 --> 00:13:37,389 and, ultimately, Alberto Alvarez is the one that calls 911. 244 00:13:37,423 --> 00:13:41,807 [dramatic music playing] 245 00:13:42,981 --> 00:13:45,604 [Orlando] When we reviewed the CCTV at the mansion, 246 00:13:45,811 --> 00:13:48,814 we saw that he carried in a bag with him, 247 00:13:49,194 --> 00:13:53,888 and also the family and the security staff told us 248 00:13:53,923 --> 00:13:55,717 he would always carry a bag with him. 249 00:13:55,752 --> 00:13:57,478 When he went to the hospital, 250 00:13:57,512 --> 00:13:59,411 he did not have the bag with him. 251 00:13:59,445 --> 00:14:04,002 The biggest, uh, "aha" moment was 252 00:14:04,416 --> 00:14:07,868 when I had asked Dr. Murray 253 00:14:07,902 --> 00:14:09,110 where his bags were. 254 00:14:09,731 --> 00:14:12,113 [Scott, on recording] Where-- Where's your bag 255 00:14:12,148 --> 00:14:14,184 where those syringes would be at now? 256 00:14:14,219 --> 00:14:16,566 -[Chernoff] Oh, really? -[Conrad] I don't have them. 257 00:14:16,946 --> 00:14:19,327 [Chernoff] I thought you left it there? 258 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,812 He was assuming that we had it. 259 00:14:21,847 --> 00:14:23,262 You haven't got my bags? 260 00:14:23,297 --> 00:14:26,852 Once he realized we didn't have that, he's like, 261 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:30,097 you know, a deer in headlights look, if you will. 262 00:14:30,131 --> 00:14:31,995 You know, legally we can search 263 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:33,686 the areas that are relevant. 264 00:14:34,032 --> 00:14:36,517 It wasn't in the room that was relevant. 265 00:14:36,724 --> 00:14:38,864 [Conrad] If you walk into the dressing room 266 00:14:38,899 --> 00:14:41,487 and you turn right, the high level top, 267 00:14:41,522 --> 00:14:45,526 the bags are right there with the items in it. 268 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,840 You know, in those moments, people aren't their sharpest, 269 00:14:49,875 --> 00:14:51,497 they're not thinking the best, 270 00:14:51,532 --> 00:14:54,638 so it's our job to take those little mistakes 271 00:14:54,673 --> 00:14:57,055 that people make and build the case on them. 272 00:14:57,365 --> 00:14:59,954 [dramatic music playing] 273 00:14:59,989 --> 00:15:01,714 [Orlando] First thing Monday morning, 274 00:15:01,749 --> 00:15:02,992 we went to the house, 275 00:15:03,406 --> 00:15:07,479 we went to where Dr. Murray had said the medical bag was. 276 00:15:09,653 --> 00:15:12,001 A different room, in a closet, 277 00:15:12,035 --> 00:15:15,142 in a cubby above the closet, we recovered the bag. 278 00:15:17,282 --> 00:15:20,768 We recovered a treasure trove of evidence 279 00:15:20,802 --> 00:15:22,943 from Murray's doctor's bag. 280 00:15:23,805 --> 00:15:27,568 [Orlando] We found a bunch of more medicines 281 00:15:27,775 --> 00:15:28,776 that he had used. 282 00:15:28,810 --> 00:15:30,812 Like Propofol and Lidocaine. 283 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:34,920 One of the other things we found was we found all the waste, 284 00:15:34,955 --> 00:15:37,854 all the trash, the needles, 285 00:15:38,303 --> 00:15:39,718 the empty bottles, 286 00:15:40,098 --> 00:15:43,480 the stuff that, when we went into the room, 287 00:15:43,515 --> 00:15:45,551 should have been laying around. 288 00:15:46,345 --> 00:15:51,109 So we knew that sometime during this medical emergency, 289 00:15:51,316 --> 00:15:53,628 Dr. Murray had stopped 290 00:15:54,008 --> 00:15:56,493 either giving CPR 291 00:15:56,528 --> 00:15:59,496 or had waited to give CPR, 292 00:15:59,531 --> 00:16:01,429 and cleaned up everything. 293 00:16:03,052 --> 00:16:06,779 So we're thinking what could be the reasons for that. 294 00:16:06,814 --> 00:16:10,300 Within 48 hours, it appeared that it was a suspicious death, 295 00:16:10,335 --> 00:16:12,544 in the sense that there was something 296 00:16:12,751 --> 00:16:14,960 more than just an overdose. 297 00:16:17,859 --> 00:16:20,931 If your goal is to preserve the life 298 00:16:20,966 --> 00:16:24,107 of the person that you're giving CPR to, 299 00:16:24,142 --> 00:16:28,698 why would you pause that to pick up trash? 300 00:16:28,732 --> 00:16:30,976 Unless you were trying to hide something. 301 00:16:32,184 --> 00:16:34,980 If he wouldn't have told us where it was, or if he would've 302 00:16:35,015 --> 00:16:36,809 taken it with him, we wouldn't have had it, 303 00:16:36,844 --> 00:16:39,985 we would have lost that element of the hiding, 304 00:16:40,020 --> 00:16:41,642 the trying to cover up. 305 00:16:42,988 --> 00:16:44,645 [Dan] We were now looking at Murray. 306 00:16:45,404 --> 00:16:47,268 He was behind the death. 307 00:16:50,582 --> 00:16:53,274 [dramatic music playing] 308 00:17:08,496 --> 00:17:11,879 Not only do you have to do 309 00:17:11,913 --> 00:17:13,674 what you can for the victim, 310 00:17:14,019 --> 00:17:18,679 but you also have to take into account the organization. 311 00:17:21,061 --> 00:17:23,649 [Dan] You're donning a uniform that has-- 312 00:17:23,684 --> 00:17:25,099 that's been a part of history, 313 00:17:25,134 --> 00:17:28,137 and growing up with the stories that you'd heard 314 00:17:28,171 --> 00:17:30,311 from the Manson cases, 315 00:17:32,002 --> 00:17:36,006 you know, Marilyn Monroe, all these notorious cases 316 00:17:36,041 --> 00:17:38,561 that you'd seen and heard about growing up, 317 00:17:38,595 --> 00:17:40,080 were part of LAPD. 318 00:17:41,184 --> 00:17:44,912 [Orlando] Historically, our department had not had 319 00:17:44,946 --> 00:17:47,363 very much success on high-profile cases. 320 00:17:47,915 --> 00:17:51,539 We had, um, lost the OJ case, 321 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:54,646 everybody remembers the Bronco chase. 322 00:17:55,785 --> 00:17:58,822 Ourselves and the DA's office allowed him 323 00:17:58,857 --> 00:18:00,272 to turn himself in, 324 00:18:00,307 --> 00:18:01,653 and it turned into a pursuit 325 00:18:01,687 --> 00:18:04,104 and a hostage situation, just ridiculous. 326 00:18:04,311 --> 00:18:06,796 [Dan] And even though you have this overwhelming 327 00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:10,179 amount of evidence to secure a conviction, 328 00:18:10,213 --> 00:18:11,283 you don't get it. 329 00:18:12,491 --> 00:18:13,803 [female juror] We the jury in the above-entitled action 330 00:18:13,837 --> 00:18:15,632 find the defendant Orenthal James Simpson 331 00:18:15,667 --> 00:18:17,600 not guilty of the crime of murder, 332 00:18:17,634 --> 00:18:19,395 a felony upon Nicole Brown Simpson, 333 00:18:19,429 --> 00:18:22,432 a human being, as charged in Count 1 of the information. 334 00:18:24,572 --> 00:18:27,092 For us working the cases, 335 00:18:27,127 --> 00:18:29,646 we didn't want to make the same mistakes 336 00:18:29,681 --> 00:18:32,442 that had been made in the department's memory 337 00:18:32,477 --> 00:18:33,719 and in the public memory. 338 00:18:33,754 --> 00:18:36,343 There was a lot of pressure to get it right. 339 00:18:41,002 --> 00:18:45,145 Me personally, I thought that it was gonna be horrible. 340 00:18:46,318 --> 00:18:49,079 The public scrutiny, 341 00:18:49,873 --> 00:18:52,393 the second guessing. 342 00:18:52,669 --> 00:18:54,292 [man] This is kind of like when, um, 343 00:18:54,326 --> 00:18:57,053 the generation when Kennedy was assassinated. 344 00:18:57,087 --> 00:18:59,435 I now will remember that I was in Times Square, 345 00:18:59,469 --> 00:19:02,748 you know, when I found out that Michael Jackson passed away. 346 00:19:04,371 --> 00:19:07,615 [Scott] There was a lot more pressure, if you will. 347 00:19:07,650 --> 00:19:10,308 There was a lot of eyes on us, obviously, 348 00:19:10,342 --> 00:19:12,344 to get the job done. 349 00:19:12,379 --> 00:19:15,002 It was daunting at times. 350 00:19:15,036 --> 00:19:19,109 [dramatic music playing] 351 00:19:23,942 --> 00:19:26,462 [Scott] When I showed up to go into the autopsy, 352 00:19:26,496 --> 00:19:30,983 you know, they had a little cover over the window, 353 00:19:31,018 --> 00:19:33,158 and they were looking to make sure it's just me 354 00:19:33,193 --> 00:19:35,264 and no one else is around, and they open the door 355 00:19:35,298 --> 00:19:38,198 and they usher me in right away and close the door and lock it. 356 00:19:38,232 --> 00:19:40,890 And I'm like, "Oh my gosh," you know, 357 00:19:40,924 --> 00:19:42,754 we're in a controlled environment, 358 00:19:42,788 --> 00:19:45,101 this is your office, this is a coroner's office, 359 00:19:45,274 --> 00:19:46,344 what's the problem? 360 00:19:47,828 --> 00:19:50,520 Everything had been cleared out of there. 361 00:19:51,521 --> 00:19:55,870 I remember it being close to, uh, five hours long. 362 00:19:56,146 --> 00:19:58,425 It was extraordinarily long. 363 00:19:59,736 --> 00:20:03,257 The thing that was odd that I found myself 364 00:20:03,292 --> 00:20:06,605 periodically looking at was, you know, his head, his scalp, 365 00:20:07,192 --> 00:20:10,368 because whenever he was out in public, he was wearing a wig. 366 00:20:10,402 --> 00:20:14,234 [dramatic music playing] 367 00:20:20,101 --> 00:20:22,725 Looking at his scalp and the top of his head 368 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,280 and being, you know, severely scarred, 369 00:20:26,315 --> 00:20:28,558 hardly any hair at all on the sides 370 00:20:28,593 --> 00:20:32,597 to what he had looked like in public with the flowing hair, 371 00:20:33,045 --> 00:20:36,117 um, that was, you know, a bit different. 372 00:20:36,773 --> 00:20:39,811 Not defending his use of prescription medicine 373 00:20:39,845 --> 00:20:42,158 by any means, but, you know, 374 00:20:42,192 --> 00:20:44,056 when you experience something like that, 375 00:20:44,091 --> 00:20:47,094 it kinda opens up the door for painkillers 376 00:20:47,128 --> 00:20:49,338 and whatever else that may lead to. 377 00:20:49,372 --> 00:20:52,202 But other than that, it truly just... 378 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,378 let's do this and get it done. Yeah. 379 00:20:55,620 --> 00:20:56,931 Blood is drawn, 380 00:20:56,966 --> 00:21:00,970 uh, and then that blood is sent to a toxicology unit, 381 00:21:01,004 --> 00:21:04,249 so the initial autopsy didn't show much, 382 00:21:04,525 --> 00:21:07,217 you know, nothing much that you wouldn't be shocked 383 00:21:07,252 --> 00:21:08,805 a 50-year-old body would have. 384 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,083 He was relatively healthy, you know. 385 00:21:11,118 --> 00:21:13,362 This isn't a man who should have died. 386 00:21:13,396 --> 00:21:15,571 [reporter] Although the official cause of death has yet 387 00:21:15,605 --> 00:21:17,366 to be determined, the coroner's office says 388 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,402 it has everything needed to make a ruling 389 00:21:19,437 --> 00:21:22,094 -on why Jackson died. -We're still waiting 390 00:21:22,129 --> 00:21:24,373 for the toxicology reports 391 00:21:24,407 --> 00:21:28,998 and the further completion of all the reports 392 00:21:29,032 --> 00:21:31,345 -that are coming in. -[man] The body was removed... 393 00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:34,348 It was weeks that went by, and we kept asking, 394 00:21:34,383 --> 00:21:36,177 "When are we going to hear from toxicology?" 395 00:21:36,212 --> 00:21:37,593 "When are we gonna hear?" 396 00:21:37,972 --> 00:21:39,042 We had a death, 397 00:21:39,077 --> 00:21:40,906 but we didn't have a criminal death yet. 398 00:21:40,941 --> 00:21:44,979 [dramatic music playing] 399 00:21:47,706 --> 00:21:48,914 [woman] It's official. 400 00:21:48,949 --> 00:21:51,641 Michael Jackson's death was a homicide. 401 00:21:52,055 --> 00:21:53,402 [crowd cheering] 402 00:21:53,436 --> 00:21:55,887 [woman] The LA County coroner's office says 403 00:21:55,921 --> 00:21:58,614 the cause of death was an acute intoxication 404 00:21:58,648 --> 00:22:00,340 from the anesthetic Propofol. 405 00:22:00,374 --> 00:22:03,377 [Orlando] Once the toxicology report came back, 406 00:22:03,412 --> 00:22:06,415 it gave us a lot more-- a lot more power 407 00:22:06,449 --> 00:22:08,313 behind our investigation. 408 00:22:08,348 --> 00:22:12,904 Other than going on a hunch, now we're going on facts. 409 00:22:13,491 --> 00:22:16,459 [Dan] And then there became the idea of, how bad? 410 00:22:17,357 --> 00:22:19,980 That was the big question, "How bad is this?" 411 00:22:21,084 --> 00:22:24,018 [Scott] Ultimately, the toxicology results, 412 00:22:24,225 --> 00:22:25,468 you had those over here 413 00:22:25,503 --> 00:22:27,884 and you have Dr. Murray's statement here, 414 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:29,955 it just wasn't jiving. 415 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:31,681 There was just no way 416 00:22:32,164 --> 00:22:37,480 that what he said was factual to what they found out. 417 00:22:38,688 --> 00:22:42,796 He had enough Propofol in him to drop a rhinoceros. 418 00:22:43,106 --> 00:22:44,936 [Dan] He could no longer breathe on his own, 419 00:22:44,970 --> 00:22:47,179 and Murray had not set up an environment 420 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:50,528 to allow for artificial means of breathing, 421 00:22:50,735 --> 00:22:54,532 which is reckless... gross negligence. 422 00:22:54,877 --> 00:23:00,400 [ambient music playing] 423 00:23:05,646 --> 00:23:09,478 [Orlando] This is a bottle that people pee into 424 00:23:09,512 --> 00:23:10,548 when they're bedridden. 425 00:23:10,582 --> 00:23:13,585 This was found at the bedside and it was full. 426 00:23:14,517 --> 00:23:16,312 He used the restroom 427 00:23:16,346 --> 00:23:18,107 without having to get out of bed. 428 00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:21,973 What it made us think was that he was completely incapacitated, 429 00:23:22,007 --> 00:23:26,322 that someone was caring for him to that extent. 430 00:23:26,495 --> 00:23:31,051 Seeing things like this, I realized that... 431 00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:37,195 he wasn't being helped to fall asleep, 432 00:23:37,644 --> 00:23:39,818 he was being kept under. 433 00:23:39,853 --> 00:23:43,097 As a consequence, not having the strength 434 00:23:43,443 --> 00:23:47,136 or the ability to get up and go to the restroom, 435 00:23:47,170 --> 00:23:50,242 just take care of business and continue sleeping. 436 00:23:52,141 --> 00:23:53,970 [woman 1] We stand up and fight for the doctor. 437 00:23:54,005 --> 00:23:55,178 [woman 2] We stand up for Michael. 438 00:23:55,213 --> 00:23:56,732 [woman 1] We fight for the doctor. 439 00:23:56,766 --> 00:23:58,388 [protesters] Justice for Michael! 440 00:23:58,423 --> 00:24:00,529 Justice for Michael! Justice for Michael! 441 00:24:00,563 --> 00:24:02,910 [Dan] What we did is we took our case, 442 00:24:02,945 --> 00:24:05,430 and this included all of our interviews, 443 00:24:05,465 --> 00:24:07,950 all of our statements, and, most significantly, 444 00:24:07,984 --> 00:24:11,471 the toxicology reports and the autopsy reports. 445 00:24:11,816 --> 00:24:13,369 We had 11 physicians 446 00:24:13,403 --> 00:24:16,476 and I think five or six different specialties 447 00:24:16,993 --> 00:24:18,616 review this material 448 00:24:18,823 --> 00:24:20,894 and were asked to render an opinion. 449 00:24:21,204 --> 00:24:25,139 As I was looking for doctors to evaluate the level of care, 450 00:24:25,174 --> 00:24:26,934 I came across Dr. Shafer. 451 00:24:26,969 --> 00:24:31,421 He was instrumental in developing Propofol. 452 00:24:32,802 --> 00:24:36,254 [Shafer] I demonstrated that in statement after statement 453 00:24:36,288 --> 00:24:39,222 after statement in Conrad Murray's interview, 454 00:24:39,706 --> 00:24:42,087 what he said made no sense, it was not possible. 455 00:24:42,122 --> 00:24:43,882 He just asserted things that were not true. 456 00:24:44,227 --> 00:24:47,196 He-- You would need a continuous drip 457 00:24:47,230 --> 00:24:50,268 of the Propofol and not a shot, not an injection 458 00:24:50,544 --> 00:24:53,409 like Dr. Murray had said he had used. 459 00:24:53,443 --> 00:24:55,515 It wears off really quickly. 460 00:24:58,448 --> 00:25:00,209 [Shafer] So what I'm simulating right here, 461 00:25:00,243 --> 00:25:03,108 uh, is the dose that Conrad Murray claims 462 00:25:03,143 --> 00:25:06,318 was available to Michael Jackson and the defense claimed, 463 00:25:06,353 --> 00:25:08,769 um, resulted in Michael Jackson's death, 464 00:25:08,804 --> 00:25:11,013 a dose of just 25 milligrams. 465 00:25:11,047 --> 00:25:12,980 Two and a half CCs of drug, which is ridiculous. 466 00:25:13,015 --> 00:25:14,395 It only lasts for a few seconds, 467 00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:16,501 and this was the whole point of the mathematics 468 00:25:16,536 --> 00:25:17,467 that I presented, 469 00:25:17,502 --> 00:25:19,608 and the heart, of course, keeps pumping. 470 00:25:20,056 --> 00:25:22,818 So we know that there was a 100CC vial 471 00:25:22,852 --> 00:25:24,233 hanging over Michael Jackson. 472 00:25:24,267 --> 00:25:26,580 Knowing it was empty, we can see exactly 473 00:25:26,615 --> 00:25:31,102 how over a period of about 30 to 40 minutes 474 00:25:31,136 --> 00:25:33,587 it enters into a dose that would be associated 475 00:25:33,622 --> 00:25:36,417 with a lethal concentration of drug in a patient 476 00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:39,524 who wasn't being looked after, because they're really under 477 00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,906 pretty deep general anesthesia at that point in time, 478 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,013 and this corresponds to having an empty 100ml vial 479 00:25:46,048 --> 00:25:48,153 hanging over Michael Jackson's head. 480 00:25:49,258 --> 00:25:51,432 And I thought, oh, my God, this is it. 481 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:53,434 This is the smoking gun. This is actually 482 00:25:53,469 --> 00:25:55,644 the bottle of Propofol that killed Michael Jackson. 483 00:25:57,956 --> 00:26:02,892 [ambient music playing] 484 00:26:03,341 --> 00:26:08,346 What we discovered was one of the IV bags 485 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,279 had been emptied. 486 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,903 One of the Propofol bottles had been upside down 487 00:26:13,938 --> 00:26:14,870 inside the bag. 488 00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:18,977 There's a bottle of Propofol inside an IV bag? 489 00:26:19,322 --> 00:26:22,153 I mean one of the single weirdest details. 490 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:27,537 [Orlando] There was a big tear, 491 00:26:27,883 --> 00:26:31,300 a pike or a needle that is large 492 00:26:31,541 --> 00:26:34,855 would have broken the top of the Propofol bottle, 493 00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:37,099 so that it could drip freely down. 494 00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:39,377 Basically, Murray was using the saline bag 495 00:26:39,688 --> 00:26:43,105 to hang the bottle of Propofol from the stand, 496 00:26:43,139 --> 00:26:44,624 but also I think to hide it, 497 00:26:44,658 --> 00:26:46,246 because he didn't want anybody to know 498 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,488 he was using Propofol. 499 00:26:50,215 --> 00:26:53,149 So to get an idea of just how crazy this is, 500 00:26:53,184 --> 00:26:55,324 the anesthetic drugs are all dangerous, 501 00:26:55,358 --> 00:26:57,602 there is really no access 502 00:26:57,637 --> 00:27:00,536 outside of the healthcare setting. 503 00:27:01,917 --> 00:27:04,644 We have pumps that are set up that are precisely calibrated, 504 00:27:04,678 --> 00:27:06,646 and we precisely control the dose. 505 00:27:07,198 --> 00:27:09,510 He had an IV line coming down from here 506 00:27:09,545 --> 00:27:11,581 and it's got a little roller clamp on the side, 507 00:27:11,616 --> 00:27:13,376 and you just adjust this little roller clamp. 508 00:27:13,722 --> 00:27:17,173 It's a gravity-fed system, there is almost-- 509 00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:19,624 there's very little control on the rate of the drug, 510 00:27:19,659 --> 00:27:21,937 and that's what he was using. It's insane. 511 00:27:22,592 --> 00:27:26,596 Nobody trained in Propofol administration 512 00:27:27,252 --> 00:27:30,083 would not precisely control the infusion rate. 513 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,257 Nobody trained in the use of Propofol 514 00:27:32,672 --> 00:27:34,915 would ever walk away from a patient 515 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:38,194 who is receiving Propofol as a continuous infusion. 516 00:27:38,712 --> 00:27:41,059 Physicians with no training in anesthesia 517 00:27:41,094 --> 00:27:43,165 have no business giving Propofol. 518 00:27:44,097 --> 00:27:45,961 [Orlando] So at that point, we knew 519 00:27:45,995 --> 00:27:49,343 this was not an honest mistake, 520 00:27:49,378 --> 00:27:55,073 but that this was on purpose, bad medicine. 521 00:27:55,349 --> 00:27:59,043 An MD degree is not a license 522 00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:01,355 to do whatever the hell you wanna do 523 00:28:01,390 --> 00:28:03,254 and just think you can get away with it. 524 00:28:03,288 --> 00:28:08,328 [dramatic music playing] 525 00:28:12,263 --> 00:28:14,472 One of the challenges in the investigation was 526 00:28:14,506 --> 00:28:16,992 the uncooperative witnesses. 527 00:28:17,613 --> 00:28:19,788 Um, one of those was Dr. Murray's girlfriend. 528 00:28:20,409 --> 00:28:23,964 Um, when we finally served the search warrant 529 00:28:23,999 --> 00:28:25,932 at the-- at her apartment, 530 00:28:26,208 --> 00:28:29,176 the whole place had been cleaned out. 531 00:28:29,487 --> 00:28:33,560 There was nothing to show that Dr. Murray had been there, 532 00:28:33,594 --> 00:28:37,115 stayed there, frequented there at all. 533 00:28:38,047 --> 00:28:43,328 Fortunately, they had missed behind one of the bookcases. 534 00:28:43,363 --> 00:28:44,640 Behind one of the bookcases, 535 00:28:44,674 --> 00:28:47,747 we found a receipt for a pharmacy. 536 00:28:49,438 --> 00:28:52,234 That led us to the Propofol. 537 00:28:55,962 --> 00:28:58,309 These items here are what we found 538 00:28:58,343 --> 00:29:00,863 at Nicole Alvarez's house. 539 00:29:01,174 --> 00:29:03,245 So it brings me back to remembering 540 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:07,387 how, uh, difficult things were when dealing with her. 541 00:29:07,421 --> 00:29:09,665 This business card and this receipt were 542 00:29:09,699 --> 00:29:14,014 the only things in his name at her place. 543 00:29:14,497 --> 00:29:17,500 This led us to the pharmacy. 544 00:29:21,504 --> 00:29:23,334 When we arrived at the pharmacy, 545 00:29:23,368 --> 00:29:25,888 the pharmacy had all the records ready. 546 00:29:26,268 --> 00:29:29,581 They had been following the news and they knew 547 00:29:29,616 --> 00:29:32,550 that the police would be there eventually. 548 00:29:32,584 --> 00:29:35,449 And as you go through, you can see all the amounts. 549 00:29:35,484 --> 00:29:38,038 One case of the 100ml bottles, 550 00:29:38,073 --> 00:29:40,489 one case of the 20ml bottles, 551 00:29:41,455 --> 00:29:45,701 in June, four cases of the 100ml bottles, 552 00:29:46,253 --> 00:29:48,635 all of the amounts, 553 00:29:48,669 --> 00:29:52,121 it's over five gallons worth of Propofol. 554 00:29:54,468 --> 00:29:58,265 [Shafer] A massive amount of Propofol, 555 00:29:58,541 --> 00:30:01,510 a massive amount of Propofol was shipped 556 00:30:01,544 --> 00:30:03,236 to his girlfriend's house. 557 00:30:06,515 --> 00:30:08,241 [Scott] We found that there was other doctors 558 00:30:08,517 --> 00:30:09,725 that Michael had reached out to 559 00:30:09,898 --> 00:30:13,384 in hopes of, uh, being administered Propofol, 560 00:30:13,625 --> 00:30:15,627 and, uh, he was turned down. 561 00:30:16,421 --> 00:30:18,803 [Dan] That relationship was a perfect storm. 562 00:30:19,183 --> 00:30:21,254 Michael first got introduced to Propofol 563 00:30:21,288 --> 00:30:23,670 through a dental procedure, and he liked it. 564 00:30:23,704 --> 00:30:26,362 He felt like, "Wow, this is the best way to go to sleep." 565 00:30:27,501 --> 00:30:29,883 [Scott] That was his drug of choice, 566 00:30:30,711 --> 00:30:34,992 and he was looking for doctors that would administer that, 567 00:30:35,371 --> 00:30:38,236 you know, as wrong as it was. 568 00:30:41,412 --> 00:30:45,036 [dramatic music playing] 569 00:30:45,071 --> 00:30:47,383 [Orlando] Usually, you think of a doctor as someone 570 00:30:47,418 --> 00:30:50,939 very successful and ethical and distinguished. 571 00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:57,290 Why they would risk a patient's life for anything, 572 00:30:57,324 --> 00:30:59,326 what would make it worth it? 573 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,955 [Scott] We had search warrants out 574 00:31:06,989 --> 00:31:09,543 in, uh, Las Vegas, at his residence 575 00:31:09,819 --> 00:31:14,307 as well as his, uh, place of business in Las Vegas 576 00:31:14,341 --> 00:31:17,827 and then his office, uh, out in Houston, Texas. 577 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:26,181 [Orlando] We get into finances, we get into business dealings, 578 00:31:26,215 --> 00:31:28,804 and his relationships. 579 00:31:28,838 --> 00:31:29,770 We executed a search warrant 580 00:31:30,910 --> 00:31:32,256 down at the Armstrong Medical Clinic this morning 581 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:34,258 with members from the DEA 582 00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,122 and the Houston Police Department 583 00:31:36,156 --> 00:31:39,815 and, uh, we are from LAPD Robbery/Homicide division. 584 00:31:40,471 --> 00:31:41,955 [Dan] He had several children, 585 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:45,303 we would learn several of them by several different wives. 586 00:31:46,408 --> 00:31:50,550 He would go out to places of adult entertainment 587 00:31:50,584 --> 00:31:53,691 and spend outrageous amounts of money. 588 00:31:54,002 --> 00:31:55,175 He would put on a show 589 00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:58,454 and not be able to support it financially. 590 00:31:59,110 --> 00:32:02,217 He would leverage his closeness to a celebrity 591 00:32:02,251 --> 00:32:05,461 to manipulate young women into relationships with him. 592 00:32:06,635 --> 00:32:09,258 [Dan] We knew that he had purchased a home in October, 593 00:32:09,603 --> 00:32:13,193 in Las Vegas, uh, for over a million dollars, 594 00:32:13,711 --> 00:32:16,541 and his mortgage was $10,000 a month, 595 00:32:17,128 --> 00:32:19,406 and he had stopped paying it. 596 00:32:25,033 --> 00:32:28,139 [dramatic music playing] 597 00:32:29,037 --> 00:32:34,352 He... had censures from different states 598 00:32:34,387 --> 00:32:36,837 where he had-- he practiced medicine. 599 00:32:36,872 --> 00:32:39,288 [dramatic music playing] 600 00:32:39,323 --> 00:32:41,877 [Orlando] With these different medical boards, they sent us 601 00:32:41,911 --> 00:32:46,261 the files of the complaints and the penalties 602 00:32:46,295 --> 00:32:49,022 that they would impose on Dr. Murray 603 00:32:49,057 --> 00:32:51,507 when he would violate their rules. 604 00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:58,169 We saw a pattern of sloppy behavior. 605 00:33:00,275 --> 00:33:02,415 [Scott] A private physician to Michael Jackson 606 00:33:02,449 --> 00:33:06,971 and here he is, uh, just an absolute mess, 607 00:33:07,006 --> 00:33:09,836 you know, yeah, surprising. 608 00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:24,126 [Orlando] This is what I recovered from, uh, his car, 609 00:33:24,161 --> 00:33:25,576 the doctor's car. 610 00:33:25,817 --> 00:33:29,752 [dramatic music playing] 611 00:33:31,099 --> 00:33:35,137 This was the contract uh, as we first found it. 612 00:33:35,172 --> 00:33:37,277 The agreement between Dr. Murray, 613 00:33:37,312 --> 00:33:40,280 AEG, and, uh, Mr. Jackson. 614 00:33:40,315 --> 00:33:42,662 "The producer shall remit payment to Dr. Murray 615 00:33:42,696 --> 00:33:46,321 in the amount of $150,000 per month." 616 00:33:48,116 --> 00:33:52,154 So this is where the money came into it. 617 00:33:52,499 --> 00:33:56,572 [crowd cheering] 618 00:33:57,056 --> 00:33:59,610 [Scott] Michael had started working, 619 00:33:59,644 --> 00:34:03,027 preparing for this huge comeback tour, 620 00:34:03,062 --> 00:34:06,099 and that's when he had reached out, Michael, 621 00:34:06,306 --> 00:34:11,208 and, uh, told AEG that he wanted Conrad Murray with him. 622 00:34:11,242 --> 00:34:13,589 And, initially, AEG was like, you know, 623 00:34:13,624 --> 00:34:15,419 London is not a third world country, 624 00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:17,145 they have fabulous doctors over there, 625 00:34:17,179 --> 00:34:19,112 what do you need your own physician for? 626 00:34:20,734 --> 00:34:23,565 [Dan] And Michael's response to his managers were, 627 00:34:23,772 --> 00:34:26,326 "Listen, the President of the Unites States 628 00:34:26,361 --> 00:34:28,535 has a physician travel with him, 629 00:34:28,570 --> 00:34:30,710 I want a physician to travel with me." 630 00:34:31,366 --> 00:34:34,714 [Scott] Dr. Murray agreed to go ahead and accompany him, 631 00:34:34,748 --> 00:34:37,682 and, uh, provide Michael with what he wanted. 632 00:34:39,201 --> 00:34:42,894 [Orlando] So he needed this gig with Mr. Jackson, 633 00:34:43,378 --> 00:34:47,278 either to pay off or to keep up with his debts. 634 00:34:48,555 --> 00:34:50,557 [Dan] He had the right motive. 635 00:34:51,627 --> 00:34:53,112 He needed money. 636 00:34:59,221 --> 00:35:04,157 [dramatic music playing] 637 00:35:05,193 --> 00:35:07,333 [indistinct radio chatter] 638 00:35:07,747 --> 00:35:09,507 [Scott] Ultimately, the decision was made 639 00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:13,580 to, uh, charge Dr. Murray with involuntary manslaughter, 640 00:35:13,615 --> 00:35:16,652 as opposed to second-degree murder. 641 00:35:28,906 --> 00:35:33,152 The DA's office didn't want another high-profile failure. 642 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,501 It was an election year for the district attorney. 643 00:35:37,777 --> 00:35:38,985 I think it was a-- 644 00:35:39,365 --> 00:35:41,298 I don't wanna say the lazy way out, 645 00:35:42,299 --> 00:35:44,956 uh, but again, a manslaughter charge was, you know, 646 00:35:44,991 --> 00:35:46,337 the path of least resistance. 647 00:35:46,372 --> 00:35:49,168 The family wasn't happy with it at all. 648 00:35:53,241 --> 00:35:56,865 Mrs. Jackson was just beside herself 649 00:35:57,106 --> 00:36:00,213 that it wasn't going to be a second-degree murder file. 650 00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:04,044 [Dan] We felt the evidence suggests 651 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:05,391 that it was a second degree. 652 00:36:07,669 --> 00:36:10,706 The level of his negligence was just so clear 653 00:36:10,741 --> 00:36:13,709 that we thought that it would apply. 654 00:36:15,711 --> 00:36:17,230 We do not charge people, 655 00:36:17,437 --> 00:36:19,957 we investigate the case and we present it. 656 00:36:20,233 --> 00:36:21,890 We were not happy with the choice, 657 00:36:21,924 --> 00:36:26,239 but we deal with what we can and, uh, we move forward. 658 00:36:29,449 --> 00:36:32,418 [Scott] When I felt a little pressure, I guess, 659 00:36:32,452 --> 00:36:35,283 is when it came time to arrest Dr. Murray. 660 00:36:38,734 --> 00:36:41,047 [Dan] We wanted to see Murray in handcuffs, 661 00:36:41,081 --> 00:36:42,635 and I think a lot, you know, 662 00:36:42,669 --> 00:36:44,499 of people wanted to see him in handcuffs. 663 00:36:48,296 --> 00:36:50,401 [Scott] His attorneys didn't want Dr. Murray 664 00:36:50,436 --> 00:36:52,783 to be seen in handcuffs in public, 665 00:36:53,542 --> 00:36:55,475 because that's not good for his image. 666 00:36:56,442 --> 00:36:58,789 Neither is killing somebody but... 667 00:37:02,896 --> 00:37:05,554 [Orlando] Behind our backs, the DA's office made 668 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:09,178 that agreement with Dr. Murray's attorneys. 669 00:37:09,213 --> 00:37:11,698 [crowd shouting] 670 00:37:11,905 --> 00:37:13,424 [Scott] The doctor turned himself in, 671 00:37:13,459 --> 00:37:15,046 voluntary surrender. 672 00:37:15,081 --> 00:37:17,048 [camera shutters clicking] 673 00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:20,086 You know, I'm of the opinion that regardless of who you are, 674 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,812 or what walk of life you come from, 675 00:37:22,364 --> 00:37:24,193 uh, if you've done wrong, 676 00:37:24,228 --> 00:37:26,472 then you need to answer for that. 677 00:37:27,956 --> 00:37:33,479 [dramatic music playing] 678 00:37:34,894 --> 00:37:36,482 I am an innocent man. 679 00:37:37,103 --> 00:37:39,899 I, therefore, plead not guilty. 680 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,798 Again, he feels he'd done nothing wrong, 681 00:37:42,833 --> 00:37:43,868 it wasn't his fault. 682 00:37:43,903 --> 00:37:46,319 He's just-- He's an arrogant individual. 683 00:37:50,944 --> 00:37:57,399 [dramatic music playing] 684 00:37:58,538 --> 00:38:00,609 [David] Conrad Murray, figuratively 685 00:38:00,851 --> 00:38:06,684 and literally, abandoned Michael Jackson. 686 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,237 We look at Murray's phone records. 687 00:38:08,272 --> 00:38:10,585 That was a big, huge piece. 688 00:38:10,619 --> 00:38:14,451 We could see Murray on his phone at certain times. 689 00:38:15,003 --> 00:38:20,733 He left this vulnerable man filled with Valium, 690 00:38:20,767 --> 00:38:23,701 and Midazolam, and Lorazepam, and Propofol, 691 00:38:23,736 --> 00:38:26,152 with no medical monitoring equipment, 692 00:38:26,186 --> 00:38:28,327 no necessary resuscitative equipment. 693 00:38:28,844 --> 00:38:31,813 He left him there, abandoned him 694 00:38:32,538 --> 00:38:33,953 to fend for himself. 695 00:38:34,402 --> 00:38:36,231 So as far as stepping away for a minute 696 00:38:36,265 --> 00:38:37,853 and going to the bathroom and coming back 697 00:38:37,888 --> 00:38:41,340 and, "Oh, my gosh, Michael's dead," no. 698 00:38:41,547 --> 00:38:46,483 He was sending emails, reviewing a contract, 699 00:38:47,415 --> 00:38:52,730 and he was also on the telephone with various people. 700 00:38:52,765 --> 00:38:54,732 While he was on the phone, 701 00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:57,356 he realized that Mr. Jackson was not breathing. 702 00:38:57,666 --> 00:39:00,359 I heard, um, mumbling of voices, 703 00:39:00,393 --> 00:39:02,637 it sounded like the phone was maybe in his pocket 704 00:39:02,671 --> 00:39:04,397 or something, it was... [imitates noise] 705 00:39:04,432 --> 00:39:05,881 and I heard coughing. 706 00:39:05,916 --> 00:39:08,608 We looked at the timelines of the 911 call. 707 00:39:08,643 --> 00:39:11,162 It was, I think, around 20 to 25 minutes 708 00:39:11,197 --> 00:39:13,406 after that call with Sade Anding. 709 00:39:13,855 --> 00:39:16,029 [Orlando] Mr. Murray started cleaning up 710 00:39:16,064 --> 00:39:17,479 the mess that he had left, 711 00:39:17,514 --> 00:39:21,034 covering up the medical treatment that he was giving, 712 00:39:21,241 --> 00:39:22,346 put that away, 713 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:28,421 called for help from security, directed them to call 911 714 00:39:28,456 --> 00:39:32,080 while he gave ineffective, one-handed CPR... 715 00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:36,947 and then travelled to the hospital 716 00:39:36,981 --> 00:39:38,707 with Mr. Jackson. 717 00:39:40,778 --> 00:39:44,403 Dr. Murray fled the hospital before we arrived, 718 00:39:45,162 --> 00:39:47,613 waited a couple of days to get his story straight, 719 00:39:48,165 --> 00:39:51,064 and, ultimately, 720 00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:54,620 was, uh, prosecuted for his conduct. 721 00:39:54,827 --> 00:39:57,588 [woman] We the jury in the above-entitled action 722 00:39:57,623 --> 00:40:01,040 find the defendant, Conrad Robert Murray, 723 00:40:01,074 --> 00:40:05,216 guilty of the crime of involuntary manslaughter. 724 00:40:05,251 --> 00:40:08,461 [crowd cheering] 725 00:40:23,683 --> 00:40:25,202 That's how that turned out. 726 00:40:26,306 --> 00:40:32,140 [dramatic music playing] 727 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,625 [Dan] Should it have been a second-degree murder? 728 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:36,558 Yeah, I think it could have been. 729 00:40:36,869 --> 00:40:39,458 Unfortunately, that is not a choice 730 00:40:39,492 --> 00:40:41,080 that we were able to make. 731 00:40:44,946 --> 00:40:46,879 The biggest thing is that he does not get 732 00:40:46,913 --> 00:40:50,020 his medical license back in any state, 733 00:40:50,054 --> 00:40:52,367 and I-- I personally don't see that happening. 734 00:40:52,919 --> 00:40:55,715 And I'm just trying to keep it light and polite here, 735 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:59,063 uh, but yeah. He's-- He's in his own world, 736 00:40:59,408 --> 00:41:01,618 he's in his own world, Dr. Murray. 737 00:41:03,309 --> 00:41:08,176 [dramatic music playing] 738 00:41:21,016 --> 00:41:22,397 [Orlando] I think that this case, 739 00:41:22,431 --> 00:41:24,123 we actually had the answers. 740 00:41:24,330 --> 00:41:27,989 We won't be in that book of unsolved murders, 741 00:41:28,023 --> 00:41:29,853 all the big ones where we've failed. 742 00:41:29,887 --> 00:41:32,476 At least my name won't be, uh, put-- 743 00:41:32,511 --> 00:41:35,099 put in the same place as those. 744 00:41:41,174 --> 00:41:43,245 It's something I'll never forget, obviously, 745 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,730 for the rest of my life. 746 00:41:44,764 --> 00:41:49,424 Uh, one hell of an experience. Yeah, no regrets. 747 00:41:54,740 --> 00:41:58,537 In big cases like this, um, sometimes, you know, 748 00:41:58,571 --> 00:42:01,401 friendships can really dissolve, but not in this case. 749 00:42:01,436 --> 00:42:04,784 It was, uh, we all lived happily ever after. 750 00:42:06,993 --> 00:42:10,341 [dramatic music playing] 751 00:42:10,618 --> 00:42:12,585 [Orlando] As soon as this one was over, 752 00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:16,037 it comes to, "This is what we expect of you." 753 00:42:16,382 --> 00:42:19,523 You get your next murder and you move forward. 754 00:42:26,012 --> 00:42:28,118 [Orlando] About four years after the trial, 755 00:42:28,152 --> 00:42:30,638 I was driving home, uh, from work. 756 00:42:31,362 --> 00:42:35,159 I look over to my left and I see this green, 757 00:42:35,366 --> 00:42:38,197 older, nice Mercedes. 758 00:42:41,027 --> 00:42:43,961 I feel someone staring at me. 759 00:42:46,654 --> 00:42:48,587 I look over and it's the same car, 760 00:42:48,794 --> 00:42:50,174 and I see Dr. Murray. 761 00:42:52,521 --> 00:42:55,076 It took me a few seconds to register that it was him, 762 00:42:55,663 --> 00:42:58,286 and by that time our cars had separated, 763 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,115 but I never saw any double takes 764 00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:02,911 or any instant moment of recognition. 765 00:43:05,189 --> 00:43:06,708 At that time, I was-- I wondered 766 00:43:07,053 --> 00:43:10,436 whether or not he would start practicing medicine again. 767 00:43:11,644 --> 00:43:15,993 Do you give someone like that a second chance? 768 00:43:16,615 --> 00:43:18,237 Someone who's done their time 769 00:43:18,444 --> 00:43:20,722 for the crime that they've committed. 770 00:43:24,243 --> 00:43:26,866 When do you let it go? 771 00:43:27,695 --> 00:43:31,526 [dramatic music playing]