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Come on in, sit down.

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You can just sit
on the floor.

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It's fine. You look better
down there anyway.

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You wanna

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experience me again?

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Just tell me
what you're into.

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Alexandra Snow,

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she's a very
well managed brand.

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She's a professional person

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and she's very good
at her craft.

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The moment she came onto
our site, we're very honored.

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She's a very big name.

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Mm, you love this.

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I always admire women
that have a good hustle

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and do really well
very quickly,

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and she had that, like,
right outta the gate.

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What's wrong?

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You don't wanna disclose

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all your deepest,
darkest fantasies?

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Take it down.
There we go.

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You're doing dirty, filthy,
kinky, wonderful things,

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and it gives us
the spice that we need.

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It's weird,
you sit online

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and you, like,
humiliate guys, that...

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wanna lick
your dirty feet.

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We payout a model just
shy of $35,000 for a month.

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I can't
guarantee that I'll take

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good care of you,

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but I will be
exceedingly thorough.

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It's making, you know,

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a lot of girls
successful and happy,

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and it's making
a lot of guys realize

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that they need
to bow down.

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I'm gonna break you into
the smallest little pieces

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and reassemble you
as something else entirely.

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Yeah.
Goes something like that.

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All right,
please say again.

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All right.
Uh, custom JOI CEI clip.

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"Please make me follow
your instructions as I jerk off

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to you with some humiliation
about what I'm doing for you.

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Uh, depending on how
cruel you're feeling,

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it's up to you whether or not
I have to ruin my orgasm.

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Um, either way, please
make me eat my cum for you

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while you give me
a bit of humiliation.

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Please make me thank
you afterwards, thank you.

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Um, and if possible, please
also blow a kiss at the end."

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So thank you and the
blowing a kiss at the end

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-is what you have to remember.
-Okay.

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I'm super in love
with this lens.

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I have this, like,
little ritual that I do

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that I get set up,

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I look in the camera,
I'm like, "Okay, we're good."

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I go and I
turn the camera on.

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I go back, I throw my hands
to my hair, I look down

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and then it goes.

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I-- I have no prep,
there's no nothing.

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I've gotten it
down to a science.

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You look so cute over
there with your cock so hard.

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She draws a lot of it
from herself

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and her own experiences,
but, like, she articulates it

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in such a way
that makes it fantastic

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and draws you
into the fantasy.

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I did want to pursue, uh,

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an acting career
at some point,

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and I decided to pursue
psychology and IT instead.

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I'm really glad that I did
because now I do get to act

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and make
way more money

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than most actors
will ever get to make.

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You like it?

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So obviously
a female domination is

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the role
of a female

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in the dominant
position, right?

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There will be

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no cumming at all...

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until I say otherwise.

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Femdom is at its heart.

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The empowerment of--
of a woman to be able to have

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her pleasure and power,

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have the way that she wants
to have it first and foremost.

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Uh, slow.

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I would have said
it's gonna hurt more.

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It's a bit of a misnomer
because it's like,

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the-- the idea is that somehow
femdom is-- is very selfish.

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And-- and the reality
is-- is that it's not,

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it's just that that's the other
side of masculine culture

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that said male
pleasure comes first.

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Stroke
for latex Goddess.

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Your rubber Queen.

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I'm Alexandra Snow.

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I'm a professional dominatrix,

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media producer, um,
visionary entrepreneur

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and I believe that all of this
is just a grand adventure.

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Good boy!

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Down, down, down.

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Fucking bug.

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There's Dominus Snow
and there's Goddess Snow.

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Dominus Snow
is the real life dominatrix.

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She is the real deal.

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Does sessions,
interacting with slaves,

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like hands on
dominant woman persona.

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And then
there is Goddess Snow

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who is more of a, like,
almost a religious deity.

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You want us to look
into your future

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and by looking
into your future

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I became it.

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Guys don't have to actually
physically feel their--

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her hands on them,
like when they're--

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when she's peering
magically into their mind

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and making them
jerk off or whatever.

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I'm selling
through several different

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pay-per-view platforms.

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Things like Clips4sale,
Kink Bomb, iWantClips.

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And, uh, each one
takes on average, like,

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between 40
and 60% commission.

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I have six
unique videos per week

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therefore I'm less concerned
about how much one video sells,

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I'm more concerned
about how all of them sell.

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You're ready
to choke it down?

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Are you ready to slobber
that whole face full of juice?

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I bet it's
right there, isn't it?

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-Uh-huh?
-Uh!

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Should we give 'em
a countdown?

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I think we should.

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There are so many
different reasons why someone

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might be into kinks

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and fetishes
and power exchange.

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Uh, and it's all,
for the most part, healthy.

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-Aw, there we go.

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It can also be
very cathartic.

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Um, a lot of people
work through trauma

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and work through difficult
experiences that they have.

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It can also be a way to
deal with stress and anxiety.

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And again,
it's just fucking sexy.

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-Two. Thank you God--

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One of the biggest
stumbling blocks for folks

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is that they have this fear
that if they see a mistress

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that, "Oh, this is--
I'm-- I'm seeing a prostitute.

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I'm-- I'm--
I'm seeing a sex worker.

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And what if people find out
and-- and this is just bad.

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This is dirty."

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And, you know,
which goes back

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to this really old
belief system

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that women's
sexuality is dirty

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and that women's sexuality

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is threatening and dangerous
in some way.

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Which, you know,
was a really wonderful way

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to keep women at bay

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and-- and keep them in their
place by not allowing them

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to assert their sexuality
and their sexual power.

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<i>We could be more careful.</i>

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♪

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I was third generation

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animal person, right?

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My grandmother bred
horses and then dogs

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and my mom bred dogs.

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And-- and so I was like
raised in a kennel, literally.

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Like, that's what--
that's what I did for fun.

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Like we-- we went to
dog shows on the weekends.

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So first grade,

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my grandmother
gets called to the school.

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I'd gotten in trouble,
I was in the principal's office

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and my grandmother comes in
and she goes,

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"What seems to be
the issue?"

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And the principal
gets up in huff and she says

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"Well, she was out there

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calling little girls bitches."

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And my grandmother
looks at me...

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and she's like, "What?"

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I was like,
"We were playing dog show

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and I had them all
on all fours

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as dogs running around me
in a circle

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'cause I'm the judge."

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And my grandmother is like,

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"Do you have
a dictionary?"

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And, you know,
the principal's like,

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all, huff and huff,
gets the dictionary.

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"Like, I'd like
to show you that bitch

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is the correct term
for female dog.

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This is a school
and we're we supposed to be

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educating our children."

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My grandmother
pulled no punches, right?

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And then my grandmother
turns to me and goes,

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"Well, who was gonna win?"

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And I was like,
"I hadn't got the judging yet."

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Remember....

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♪

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When I first identified

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as being
a dominant female,

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I thought there was
something wrong with me, right?

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Like I--
I genuinely thought there

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was something
wrong with me.

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I'm having this like,
um, like therapy session

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which I'm like pouring
my heart out to this guy.

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I thought maybe I was
having an-- an identity

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with my gender, like,
I was identifying with

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all these very masculine,
you know, characteristics,

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but yet, um,
still thought I might have

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sexual attraction to both.

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And I had this--
this doctor laugh at me

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and it was just like,
just thought it was so funny.

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He was like, "There's
nothing wrong with you.

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You're not broken.

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You're not
having a gender crisis.

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You're just rare.

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You know, dominant
women tend to be fairly rare

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and you don't have
a model for it in society."

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There was this,
like, a strange dichotomy

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of femdom in which that you're
supposed to feel powerful

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wearing hyper
feminine clothing,

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but exhibiting
hypermasculine attributes.

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I was like,
"Okay, well I suppose

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if that's the name
of the game,

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I already have a lot of these
characteristics and fuck it.

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I like--
I like the clothes."

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As a femdom we're definitely
giving more scope to gender.

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You know, you can play
with these different roles

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and experience
the loss of control that

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that role provides.

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There we go.
That looks better.

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The femdom creates a space
where there's no judgment.

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They create a space
where there's no shame.

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So the person
has the opportunity

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to explore
and create and go, "Huh!

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This is what I'm
missing in my day to day,

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and this is
what I want here."

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And it's
a turn on, right?

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Because imagine being able
to be in a space

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where you can
truly be yourself,

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where the person across
from you isn't judging you,

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there's no shame or blame.

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That's the sexiest place
you can be.

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I actually
got into the adult industry

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through dancing,
through erotic dancing.

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I took all of
the money that I made

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from being a stripper and used
to bankroll my whole business.

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I sat down probably

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for three or four months
and created a business plan

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and then
completely broke apart

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everyone's business models
and said, "You know what?

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None of you
are doing it the way

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that I would wanna do it,"
and I wrote a new one.

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I'm a big fan
of medieval bondage

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and medieval torture devices,

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and I wanted to take
some of these really cool

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old medieval plans
and modernize them.

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This is my whipping post.

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I could really pull someone up
and even off the ground.

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I was talking to
a friend about the nature

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of opening a dungeon
and she said,

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"Wow, it's kind of like
you're creating

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this Garden of Eden thing."

252
00:12:21,146 --> 00:12:22,882
And I said, "Ugh.
Yeah, A Wicked Eden."

253
00:12:22,917 --> 00:12:24,543
And she was like,
"That's brilliant!"

254
00:12:24,578 --> 00:12:26,413
And I was like, "Yes,
it absolutely is brilliant."

255
00:12:26,448 --> 00:12:28,250
That's-- that's it.
That's the name.

256
00:12:28,285 --> 00:12:31,385
The training process
at Wicked Eden was intense.

257
00:12:31,820 --> 00:12:35,323
We had to know
how to use every toy

258
00:12:35,358 --> 00:12:37,391
in that dungeon
ten different ways.

259
00:12:37,426 --> 00:12:39,932
We had to know
sanitation procedures.

260
00:12:39,967 --> 00:12:42,594
We had to know,
uh, medical procedures.

261
00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:44,068
Everything that
I teach the girls,

262
00:12:44,103 --> 00:12:45,399
I break into modules.

263
00:12:45,434 --> 00:12:47,236
I have an entire
training program.

264
00:12:47,271 --> 00:12:49,843
There is an actual
curriculum with lots of tests.

265
00:12:49,878 --> 00:12:52,307
They have to actually
be able to go through beginner,

266
00:12:52,342 --> 00:12:54,309
intermediate,
advanced bondage.

267
00:12:54,344 --> 00:12:57,609
BDSM is bondage
and discipline, sadomasochism.

268
00:12:57,644 --> 00:12:59,853
Those two people,
they come to the table

269
00:12:59,888 --> 00:13:02,614
as sexual equals, they come to
the table with mutual consent.

270
00:13:02,649 --> 00:13:05,892
Then they have the opportunity
to explore a role

271
00:13:05,927 --> 00:13:09,192
that they may or may not live
in their day to day life,

272
00:13:09,227 --> 00:13:12,459
and that gives them a sense of
not only sexual satisfaction,

273
00:13:12,494 --> 00:13:14,901
but also release.

274
00:13:16,597 --> 00:13:20,874
I forget
sometimes that for someone

275
00:13:20,909 --> 00:13:22,535
walking in the door
for the first time,

276
00:13:22,570 --> 00:13:24,878
this may be
the most terrifying thing

277
00:13:24,913 --> 00:13:27,045
that they've ever--
they've ever done, and,

278
00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,641
you know, that I need to honor
that bravery a little bit.

279
00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:32,314
I don't think there are
actually any vanilla people.

280
00:13:32,349 --> 00:13:34,514
I think that there
are people who have not been

281
00:13:34,549 --> 00:13:38,419
introduced to the right
kind of kink for them yet.

282
00:13:38,454 --> 00:13:40,025
Count.

283
00:13:42,161 --> 00:13:43,523
Thank you.

284
00:13:47,628 --> 00:13:49,397
I started
my business in Columbus

285
00:13:49,432 --> 00:13:52,004
because that's where
my now ex-husband was.

286
00:13:53,073 --> 00:13:55,106
So my original
business partner is--

287
00:13:55,141 --> 00:13:58,472
is Joseph,
who is also my ex-husband.

288
00:13:59,441 --> 00:14:04,313
Joseph was very adamant
with me that I couldn't be out.

289
00:14:04,948 --> 00:14:06,678
He had children,
they were my stepchildren,

290
00:14:06,713 --> 00:14:10,286
and that it would be
a threat to-- to them,

291
00:14:10,321 --> 00:14:12,090
it could be
a threat to, you know,

292
00:14:12,125 --> 00:14:14,026
the-- their custody
battle and it was a threat

293
00:14:14,061 --> 00:14:16,457
to how we were perceived,
you know, in the regular world.

294
00:14:16,492 --> 00:14:19,328
He was very obsessed with
how others would perceive us.

295
00:14:20,969 --> 00:14:22,529
I wanted to be outspoken.

296
00:14:22,564 --> 00:14:25,103
I wanted to be
proud of what I did,

297
00:14:25,138 --> 00:14:29,140
and I didn't want to feel
ashamed and have to hide it.

298
00:14:29,175 --> 00:14:31,472
And then after I--
I had separated from--

299
00:14:31,507 --> 00:14:35,410
from my ex-husband,
um, I thought,

300
00:14:35,445 --> 00:14:37,115
"Okay, well here's
my chance."

301
00:14:37,550 --> 00:14:39,612
Alex is determined to come out

302
00:14:39,647 --> 00:14:41,317
and I think
the reasons are right.

303
00:14:41,352 --> 00:14:42,714
I think her heart
is in the right place

304
00:14:42,749 --> 00:14:44,518
and I feel like
it'll be a good move.

305
00:14:44,553 --> 00:14:46,355
But it doesn't mean
I'm not worried about her.

306
00:14:46,390 --> 00:14:48,522
What if this is just
another tool that people use

307
00:14:48,557 --> 00:14:51,426
to exploit her
or to put her in danger?

308
00:14:52,162 --> 00:14:55,694
I think the public at large

309
00:14:55,729 --> 00:15:01,007
has a lot of misconceptions
about not just kink and BDSM,

310
00:15:01,042 --> 00:15:02,404
but sex workers.

311
00:15:02,439 --> 00:15:04,571
And the more we can
talk candidly

312
00:15:04,606 --> 00:15:07,046
about what we do
and have real conversations

313
00:15:07,081 --> 00:15:09,983
about those things, the better
it's gonna be for everyone.

314
00:15:11,613 --> 00:15:14,383
Come on, stand up.

315
00:15:14,752 --> 00:15:16,418
-Come on, pussy.

316
00:15:21,689 --> 00:15:24,327
Oh, see
this little bitch, huh?

317
00:15:24,696 --> 00:15:28,661
So how I got started
was I was 17 years old

318
00:15:28,696 --> 00:15:31,136
just filling out
social media profiles

319
00:15:31,171 --> 00:15:34,040
and, uh, I would get
random guys messaging me.

320
00:15:34,075 --> 00:15:37,208
And one guy in particular
started to message me

321
00:15:37,243 --> 00:15:40,442
and he had
a fetish for getting peed on.

322
00:15:40,477 --> 00:15:42,477
That was his thing.

323
00:15:42,912 --> 00:15:44,677
And then,
so eventually he was like,

324
00:15:44,712 --> 00:15:46,184
"You know,
I really think that your piss

325
00:15:46,219 --> 00:15:48,021
should be bottled
and sold."

326
00:15:48,056 --> 00:15:50,518
And so I was like,
"Okay, then buy it," you know?

327
00:15:50,553 --> 00:15:53,191
And two weeks later
he sent me $250.

328
00:15:53,226 --> 00:15:54,786
I started doing
webcam and videos

329
00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:58,493
and here I am today
as a cyber dominatrix.

330
00:15:58,528 --> 00:16:00,627
Now look at that camera
and say, "Thank you."

331
00:16:00,662 --> 00:16:03,069
-Thank you Princess.

332
00:16:03,104 --> 00:16:06,402
I met Ceara Lynch, uh,
through a chance meeting.

333
00:16:06,971 --> 00:16:09,207
We, um, went
bowling together.

334
00:16:09,242 --> 00:16:13,442
She's telling me about how
she sells her dirty underwear

335
00:16:13,477 --> 00:16:16,742
to perverts online
and I was like, "What?

336
00:16:16,777 --> 00:16:19,118
This sounds amazing.
How can I get in on this?"

337
00:16:19,153 --> 00:16:21,549
I was kind of a starving
college student at the time

338
00:16:21,584 --> 00:16:25,091
and to be able to make money
off something you wear

339
00:16:25,126 --> 00:16:27,522
every single day,
that just was like,

340
00:16:27,557 --> 00:16:29,689
you know,
the American dream.

341
00:16:29,724 --> 00:16:32,329
We all just
started filming these

342
00:16:32,364 --> 00:16:35,134
very naive
fetish clips at the time.

343
00:16:35,169 --> 00:16:36,465
It was really funny.

344
00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:38,368
You know,
we'd wear our sunglasses

345
00:16:38,403 --> 00:16:41,767
and be popping our bubble gum
and be like, you know,

346
00:16:41,802 --> 00:16:44,341
talking about loser
and stuff like that.

347
00:16:45,043 --> 00:16:48,642
I filmed
every single day when I began,

348
00:16:48,677 --> 00:16:51,810
and I posted videos
every single day.

349
00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:55,121
And I've seen so many girls
get into this industry

350
00:16:55,156 --> 00:16:56,650
and they couldn't
cut it.

351
00:16:56,685 --> 00:16:58,289
They didn't
make the money

352
00:16:58,324 --> 00:17:01,127
because
they weren't hardworking.

353
00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:10,466
My name is Raevyn Rose
and I've always kind of been

354
00:17:10,501 --> 00:17:12,831
into porn and,
you know, watched--

355
00:17:12,866 --> 00:17:15,504
watched all sorts
of kinky porn and stuff.

356
00:17:15,539 --> 00:17:18,276
I grew up 50 minutes
south of Seattle.

357
00:17:18,311 --> 00:17:19,772
It was a small town.

358
00:17:19,807 --> 00:17:23,611
It's like
a white redneck country down,

359
00:17:23,646 --> 00:17:25,679
I don't know,
it was pretty trashy,

360
00:17:25,714 --> 00:17:27,615
AKA meth central, you know?

361
00:17:27,650 --> 00:17:28,781
That's what they called it.

362
00:17:29,916 --> 00:17:31,289
Wow!

363
00:17:32,589 --> 00:17:34,424
I don't know.
It was okay.

364
00:17:34,459 --> 00:17:36,129
I'm glad I-- I'm glad
I don't have to work there.

365
00:17:36,164 --> 00:17:38,230
I'm glad I don't
have to work in essentially

366
00:17:38,265 --> 00:17:39,858
where I grew up
because I don't wanna

367
00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:42,366
have to see anybody
that I ever knew ever again.

368
00:17:42,801 --> 00:17:45,204
I was only
the odd one out, I guess,

369
00:17:45,239 --> 00:17:46,799
because I was religious.

370
00:17:46,834 --> 00:17:48,900
I was raised
Jehovah's Witness and that,

371
00:17:48,935 --> 00:17:50,803
you know, I didn't
get to do a lot.

372
00:17:50,838 --> 00:17:52,772
I never went
to any school dances.

373
00:17:52,807 --> 00:17:54,642
I didn't get to
do any sports.

374
00:17:54,677 --> 00:17:57,711
I didn't really get to
express myself a whole lot.

375
00:17:57,746 --> 00:17:59,746
I just wasn't allowed.

376
00:17:59,781 --> 00:18:01,715
I-- I got caught sneaking out
once and they basically put me

377
00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:03,354
on like kid probation,

378
00:18:03,389 --> 00:18:05,389
this thing called
'youths at risk'.

379
00:18:05,424 --> 00:18:06,885
And I just, like,
followed the rules

380
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,590
and did
what I had to do,

381
00:18:08,625 --> 00:18:10,559
and I was only on it
for like two months

382
00:18:10,594 --> 00:18:12,726
and then I got off of it

383
00:18:12,761 --> 00:18:15,300
and I kind of just
did the same thing again.

384
00:18:15,335 --> 00:18:17,203
I was just
smarter about it.

385
00:18:18,734 --> 00:18:23,308
I've been involved in the kink
scene for, I'd say two years.

386
00:18:23,343 --> 00:18:25,871
I was, um,
just going to play parties

387
00:18:25,906 --> 00:18:28,610
and I didn't think
I'd have any, you know,

388
00:18:28,645 --> 00:18:31,349
I guess professional
involvement or,

389
00:18:31,384 --> 00:18:34,253
you know, turn it into
something I'd make money from.

390
00:18:35,916 --> 00:18:40,259
When I first met Astro it was
at a play party and she was--

391
00:18:40,294 --> 00:18:43,856
she was in all leather and
she had a slave with her and,

392
00:18:43,891 --> 00:18:46,694
you know, she was just
telling him to do stuff.

393
00:18:46,729 --> 00:18:48,498
She used him
as a footrest

394
00:18:48,533 --> 00:18:51,765
and she was just,
like, really powerful.

395
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,867
And this was, you know,
my first time seeing her

396
00:18:54,902 --> 00:18:56,737
and I was like,
"I should go talk to her.

397
00:18:56,772 --> 00:18:58,442
I should see
how she does this."

398
00:18:58,477 --> 00:19:01,379
I saw that she's, like,
this really keen, young,

399
00:19:01,414 --> 00:19:05,251
energetic,
warm-hearted, um, woman.

400
00:19:05,286 --> 00:19:07,616
She's a little,
I'd say like, not lost,

401
00:19:07,651 --> 00:19:12,225
but adventurous and wants to
learn a lot about the industry.

402
00:19:13,393 --> 00:19:15,426
Astro asked me
to do a video,

403
00:19:15,461 --> 00:19:18,660
just a-- a simple
fetish video, which was fun.

404
00:19:18,695 --> 00:19:21,762
My first time in front
of a camera it was a foot video

405
00:19:21,797 --> 00:19:24,204
and yeah, that was--
that was pretty much my start.

406
00:19:30,003 --> 00:19:31,706
Hey. How's it going?

407
00:19:32,141 --> 00:19:35,281
I got into bikini coffee
about a year and a half ago.

408
00:19:35,316 --> 00:19:37,514
One of my vanilla friends
had been doing it a while

409
00:19:37,549 --> 00:19:39,747
and she said it's the best
money she's ever made.

410
00:19:39,782 --> 00:19:41,551
Um, let's see.

411
00:19:41,586 --> 00:19:44,620
I have hot coffee,
iced coffee, energy drinks,

412
00:19:44,655 --> 00:19:46,325
we have Monster
and Red Bull

413
00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,327
and I can make
anything blended.

414
00:19:48,362 --> 00:19:50,329
Uh, tea, smoothies.

415
00:19:50,364 --> 00:19:53,794
I've had customers
tip me $50 to $150,

416
00:19:53,829 --> 00:19:55,532
um

417
00:19:55,567 --> 00:19:57,534
for just looking nice.

418
00:19:57,569 --> 00:20:00,900
And then I had one come through
because he follows my Snapchat.

419
00:20:00,935 --> 00:20:02,704
He's like,
"Well, I watch your--

420
00:20:02,739 --> 00:20:04,706
your Snapchat all the time
and it's really good

421
00:20:04,741 --> 00:20:06,906
and I feel like I should be
giving you more money for it."

422
00:20:06,941 --> 00:20:08,644
I see him maybe
once a month

423
00:20:08,679 --> 00:20:10,514
and he'll tip me, like,
about a hundred bucks.

424
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:12,483
This area's pretty good.
It's pretty innocent.

425
00:20:12,518 --> 00:20:15,585
They don't-- I rarely get
shows or asked for shows here.

426
00:20:16,154 --> 00:20:18,489
In my couple years
of doing this,

427
00:20:18,524 --> 00:20:21,591
I haven't had any really,
really scary, uh, instances.

428
00:20:21,626 --> 00:20:25,859
But about two weeks ago
I did and I--

429
00:20:25,894 --> 00:20:27,894
I just-- I was working,
doing my thing.

430
00:20:27,929 --> 00:20:29,896
I had this guy come
through and gave me a $10 tip,

431
00:20:29,931 --> 00:20:33,405
which is nice, and then,
um, you know, I was done

432
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,309
and-- and then he's like,
"Here's a $20 for a show."

433
00:20:36,344 --> 00:20:37,805
I was like,
"I don't do shows."

434
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,939
He's like, "Yes you do.
All the other girls do."

435
00:20:39,974 --> 00:20:43,415
I'm like, "I'm sorry, I don't.
Not my style."

436
00:20:43,450 --> 00:20:44,878
And he's like,
"You have to do a show."

437
00:20:44,913 --> 00:20:46,748
And I'm like,
"I'm not doing a show."

438
00:20:46,783 --> 00:20:48,948
And I walk away and I'm like,
"You have to leave now."

439
00:20:48,983 --> 00:20:50,917
I'm just cleaning up
and doing my thing

440
00:20:50,952 --> 00:20:53,755
and then I walk back over to
talk to him and his dick's out.

441
00:20:54,124 --> 00:20:56,395
And I was just like,
"That's disgusting.

442
00:20:56,430 --> 00:20:58,529
You have to leave,
you have five seconds to leave

443
00:20:58,564 --> 00:21:00,333
or I'm gonna throw
hot water on you."

444
00:21:00,368 --> 00:21:02,533
And he's like-- and then
he's just going off on me

445
00:21:02,568 --> 00:21:04,469
and calling me names
and just flipping out.

446
00:21:04,504 --> 00:21:06,471
So I'm, like,
pouring this hot water

447
00:21:06,506 --> 00:21:08,374
and I was like,
"I'm gonna count down now."

448
00:21:08,409 --> 00:21:10,508
And I'm--
I'm counting down slowly

449
00:21:10,543 --> 00:21:13,907
and he's just calling me a cunt
and a bitch, just going off.

450
00:21:13,942 --> 00:21:15,711
So I get closer and closer
and he starts moving.

451
00:21:15,746 --> 00:21:17,042
He's like,
"If you throw water on me

452
00:21:17,077 --> 00:21:18,450
I will fucking shoot you."

453
00:21:18,485 --> 00:21:19,583
I'm like
,

454
00:21:19,618 --> 00:21:20,947
"Okay."

455
00:21:20,982 --> 00:21:22,652
So I didn't think
anything of it

456
00:21:22,687 --> 00:21:25,457
until he came back,
like, within two minutes

457
00:21:25,492 --> 00:21:27,459
and-- and parked his car

458
00:21:27,494 --> 00:21:29,659
and starts banging
on my windows and my door.

459
00:21:29,694 --> 00:21:33,564
And, uh, I had a customer
in front of his car

460
00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:35,632
and I was like, "Can you wait
here while I call the cops

461
00:21:35,667 --> 00:21:38,470
'cause I don't know
if he has a weapon,

462
00:21:38,505 --> 00:21:41,803
and whether or not he does,
he's banging on my windows."

463
00:21:41,838 --> 00:21:45,004
So I called the cops,
filed a report.

464
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:47,413
He came back one more time,
kept doing the thing

465
00:21:47,448 --> 00:21:49,415
and-- and like kicking
rocks at the building.

466
00:21:49,450 --> 00:21:53,749
And like, I mean,
after arguing that much,

467
00:21:53,784 --> 00:21:56,422
like even before
he got out of his car,

468
00:21:56,457 --> 00:21:57,951
like, why would I
wanna flash somebody

469
00:21:57,986 --> 00:21:59,854
that's fucking
yelling at me?

470
00:22:01,022 --> 00:22:04,023
This hot, sexy coffee
is nine dollars.

471
00:22:05,631 --> 00:22:08,159
It was fun dressing up
all the time at first,

472
00:22:08,194 --> 00:22:11,668
but now that
I have to, like,

473
00:22:11,703 --> 00:22:13,901
some days
I don't feel like being naked.

474
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:17,575
Like, some days I don't
feel like being stared at

475
00:22:17,610 --> 00:22:19,742
and with the job I'm entering
now I get to choose

476
00:22:19,777 --> 00:22:21,645
when I get to do that,
I get to choose

477
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,042
when I'm getting
the attention

478
00:22:23,077 --> 00:22:24,813
or when I wanna address
the attention.

479
00:22:24,848 --> 00:22:26,650
You know, I've only--
I've only been camming

480
00:22:26,685 --> 00:22:31,149
for a few months,
maybe-- maybe five-ish times.

481
00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:35,692
It's been fun. I talk and--
and I even had locals on there.

482
00:22:35,727 --> 00:22:37,958
They'll watch me and then
they'll come visit me at work.

483
00:22:37,993 --> 00:22:39,465
The next thing
they're like, "Wow!

484
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:40,829
Your cam show
is awesome."

485
00:22:40,864 --> 00:22:42,765
So that always
feels good.

486
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,470
I have 11 people
on here right now

487
00:22:44,505 --> 00:22:46,065
and six of 'em are guests,
so that means

488
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:47,869
they don't have accounts.

489
00:22:47,904 --> 00:22:49,838
Tipping is always
an option

490
00:22:49,873 --> 00:22:52,676
and private rooms are,
you know,

491
00:22:52,711 --> 00:22:54,172
paid for
by second or minute.

492
00:22:54,207 --> 00:22:56,812
Being that I'm working
a day job already,

493
00:22:56,847 --> 00:22:59,617
that kind of
takes away from, um,

494
00:22:59,652 --> 00:23:03,852
camming and making my own
videos because I'm on call.

495
00:23:03,887 --> 00:23:07,119
My schedule is all over
the place, but everything--

496
00:23:07,154 --> 00:23:10,221
all of my work,
all of my income is,

497
00:23:10,256 --> 00:23:12,531
um, sex work related.

498
00:23:12,566 --> 00:23:16,227
So I can-- I can
advertise myself in many ways

499
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:19,736
through, you know, each of
these work outlets, I guess.

500
00:23:21,707 --> 00:23:22,904
So that was a tip.

501
00:23:22,939 --> 00:23:24,807
Yeah, it was
100 tokens, uh,

502
00:23:24,842 --> 00:23:26,138
"Just found you.

503
00:23:26,173 --> 00:23:28,206
Would love to be
added as a friend.

504
00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:31,550
Hello from East Coast USA.
Kiss, kiss."

505
00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:35,246
When I started
doing this it was just me

506
00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:37,787
and my webcam,
me and my camera.

507
00:23:37,822 --> 00:23:42,726
I would get guys
who had fetish requests.

508
00:23:42,761 --> 00:23:44,530
You're my little
cum eater.

509
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:47,896
You're my little bitch.
Suck it!

510
00:23:47,931 --> 00:23:51,702
The fee and be bossy to me
and-- and be mean to me

511
00:23:51,737 --> 00:23:53,198
and I thought,
"Oh, this is kind of funny."

512
00:23:53,233 --> 00:23:54,903
I wanted to
be a bitch.

513
00:23:54,938 --> 00:23:56,171
Like, that's how
I'm in real life, you know?

514
00:23:56,206 --> 00:23:58,610
Do you want me to take control
of that little mind of yours?

515
00:23:59,272 --> 00:24:00,777
Mm-hmm.

516
00:24:00,812 --> 00:24:03,912
Do you need me
to make

517
00:24:03,947 --> 00:24:06,816
all of your decisions?

518
00:24:07,318 --> 00:24:09,115
I knew that I was
making money 'cause I was--

519
00:24:09,150 --> 00:24:11,216
I was sexualized,

520
00:24:11,251 --> 00:24:14,219
but I didn't feel like
I was doing anything sexual.

521
00:24:14,654 --> 00:24:17,288
So in the beginning
I didn't-- I didn't care.

522
00:24:17,323 --> 00:24:19,224
I just wanted the money.

523
00:24:19,259 --> 00:24:20,863
Honestly.

524
00:24:20,898 --> 00:24:22,799
I love the internet
in a lot of ways

525
00:24:22,834 --> 00:24:27,034
when it comes to folks
that have sexual preferences

526
00:24:27,069 --> 00:24:31,170
and proclivities
that are outside of average,

527
00:24:31,205 --> 00:24:34,844
because for so long they
haven't necessarily been able

528
00:24:34,879 --> 00:24:36,307
to connect
with other people

529
00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:38,243
that have preferences
like theirs.

530
00:24:38,278 --> 00:24:43,523
♪

531
00:24:45,725 --> 00:24:48,022
Well, I've been a pervert

532
00:24:48,057 --> 00:24:49,760
since I was
five years old.

533
00:24:49,795 --> 00:24:51,861
It's been, yeah,
pretty much a lifelong thing.

534
00:24:51,896 --> 00:24:54,567
Uh, the femdom, um, thing--
part of, I think,

535
00:24:54,602 --> 00:24:57,900
I didn't come into it
until about I was 13 or 14

536
00:24:57,935 --> 00:25:00,166
and then I discovered
my first dirty magazine,

537
00:25:00,201 --> 00:25:01,640
femdom magazine.

538
00:25:03,644 --> 00:25:05,611
In the early days it was--
it was a little more difficult

539
00:25:05,646 --> 00:25:09,340
because obviously back then we
only had like 14.4- bit modems.

540
00:25:09,375 --> 00:25:11,716
There was no
HD 4K video.

541
00:25:11,751 --> 00:25:14,620
You know, this is,
like, all on usenet groups

542
00:25:14,655 --> 00:25:18,591
and bulletin boards
and ASCII text porn.

543
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,089
<i>Ten point bonus.</i>

544
00:25:22,124 --> 00:25:24,630
You had to pay for the,
like, the membership sites

545
00:25:24,665 --> 00:25:26,159
to get like videos
because it was

546
00:25:26,194 --> 00:25:28,029
really expensive
back then, of course.

547
00:25:28,064 --> 00:25:30,801
And when the internet
speeds caught up, uh,

548
00:25:30,836 --> 00:25:34,640
then of course people were able
to make their own videos

549
00:25:34,675 --> 00:25:37,170
and sell them online
and you could see it instantly.

550
00:25:37,205 --> 00:25:42,241
♪

551
00:25:45,213 --> 00:25:47,048
I'm not gonna
fuck you right now.

552
00:25:47,083 --> 00:25:50,051
I want things
to be a little spicier.

553
00:25:50,086 --> 00:25:51,921
Like I said,
I've been planning.

554
00:25:51,956 --> 00:25:53,824
Hey. All right.

555
00:25:53,859 --> 00:25:55,320
So I was an exotic dancer
and someone came up to me

556
00:25:55,355 --> 00:25:58,290
in a club
and was kind of a--

557
00:25:58,325 --> 00:26:00,996
a mild mannered guy
with glasses.

558
00:26:01,031 --> 00:26:02,899
And he is like,
"So how do you feel

559
00:26:02,934 --> 00:26:05,066
about like being mean to guys,
like yelling at them?

560
00:26:05,101 --> 00:26:06,771
You know,
like being a bitch?"

561
00:26:06,806 --> 00:26:09,037
I was like, "Why is this
so hard to explain?

562
00:26:09,072 --> 00:26:10,401
Like, yes.
Yes, I'm into that."

563
00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:13,140
He'd pay us,
like, a lot at the time

564
00:26:13,175 --> 00:26:15,274
just for a whole day
of like, "All right,

565
00:26:15,309 --> 00:26:18,684
get in
your brattiest outfit, um,

566
00:26:18,719 --> 00:26:20,411
and imagine
you're a sorority princess."

567
00:26:20,446 --> 00:26:22,985
We found out
where he was putting the videos

568
00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:25,020
and we were like, "Is he just
jerking off to this?

569
00:26:25,055 --> 00:26:26,758
It seems bigger than that."

570
00:26:26,793 --> 00:26:28,320
So we found it
and we found clips for sale

571
00:26:28,355 --> 00:26:30,190
and we were like,

572
00:26:30,225 --> 00:26:31,994
"Shit, we can do
this ourselves!"

573
00:26:33,899 --> 00:26:37,835
I think, yeah, clips
and indulging in your fetishes

574
00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:40,937
instead of like looking
for instance, uh,

575
00:26:40,972 --> 00:26:43,137
through a whole DVD
of regular porn

576
00:26:43,172 --> 00:26:44,875
just to see a foot.

577
00:26:44,910 --> 00:26:46,272
You're able to find
exactly what you need.

578
00:26:46,307 --> 00:26:48,208
Our world is busy.

579
00:26:48,243 --> 00:26:50,749
You've got ten minutes on
the subway real quick, I guess.

580
00:26:50,784 --> 00:26:55,083
But like, um, don't jerk off
on the subway though, please.

581
00:26:55,118 --> 00:26:59,725
There is like a driving
change in the porn community

582
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,862
and fetish porn allows
people to access some desires

583
00:27:04,897 --> 00:27:07,425
that they might not be able
to access in real life,

584
00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:11,099
to fantasize about stuff
that they thought was too evil

585
00:27:11,134 --> 00:27:13,167
or sick or weird
to fantasize about.

586
00:27:13,202 --> 00:27:15,037
And I feel like there's
a lot of self-acceptance

587
00:27:15,072 --> 00:27:18,304
that comes with,
like, accepting one's fetish.

588
00:27:18,339 --> 00:27:20,812
There's always been perverts,
there's always been,

589
00:27:20,847 --> 00:27:22,847
you know, these kind of
groups and the internet

590
00:27:22,882 --> 00:27:24,948
obviously helps
people find each other.

591
00:27:24,983 --> 00:27:27,753
A lot of people will associate
this with like sort of dark--

592
00:27:27,788 --> 00:27:29,755
undercurrent,
dark web sort of thing.

593
00:27:29,790 --> 00:27:33,022
And it's not, it's just regular
people who for obvious reasons

594
00:27:33,057 --> 00:27:36,762
don't want to go public
with their deepest fantasies.

595
00:27:36,797 --> 00:27:39,061
We have a lot of cam girls
coming into the industry.

596
00:27:39,096 --> 00:27:41,294
We have a lot of porn stars,
um, coming into the site

597
00:27:41,329 --> 00:27:43,296
now that are shooting
content for themselves

598
00:27:43,331 --> 00:27:45,100
rather than for
a production company,

599
00:27:45,135 --> 00:27:46,970
um, where they never
get royalties,

600
00:27:47,005 --> 00:27:48,906
where they never make money
after that one shoot.

601
00:27:48,941 --> 00:27:51,744
They think it up from
start to finish, they shoot it,

602
00:27:51,779 --> 00:27:53,746
they angle it,
they make it how they want,

603
00:27:53,781 --> 00:27:56,243
and you're getting a connection
with the artist and, you know,

604
00:27:56,278 --> 00:27:58,311
I think that really
goes far with the consumer.

605
00:27:58,346 --> 00:28:00,478
I remember the first thing
I watched was,

606
00:28:00,513 --> 00:28:05,417
like, the very stereotypical
like, uh, someone fucked my,

607
00:28:05,452 --> 00:28:09,091
like, stepsister and like,
she's like extremely, like,

608
00:28:09,126 --> 00:28:12,831
dolled up and like--
like, very effeminate voice,

609
00:28:12,866 --> 00:28:14,492
"Eh," type of thing.

610
00:28:14,527 --> 00:28:17,836
And from there
it got really dull,

611
00:28:17,871 --> 00:28:20,300
I guess, like,
very quickly for me.

612
00:28:20,335 --> 00:28:22,236
At first I didn't, like,
understand that there was

613
00:28:22,271 --> 00:28:24,909
this like whole
underground sort of-- like,

614
00:28:24,944 --> 00:28:29,111
I would even say, like,
punk scene of, uh, porn

615
00:28:29,146 --> 00:28:32,246
where like it's self-produced,
self-published,

616
00:28:32,281 --> 00:28:34,182
uh, self-promoted.

617
00:28:34,217 --> 00:28:36,481
And I guess that's what--
that's what keeps me coming.

618
00:28:36,516 --> 00:28:39,154
Uh, no pun intended.

619
00:28:39,189 --> 00:28:42,322
I do a lot of research
in how our clips are selling.

620
00:28:42,357 --> 00:28:44,390
Um, I do-- like,
I run the analytics

621
00:28:44,425 --> 00:28:47,096
on what categories,
uh, what clip titles.

622
00:28:47,131 --> 00:28:50,165
Um, video lengths, like,
the difference between

623
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,837
doing a full length video

624
00:28:51,872 --> 00:28:53,564
and then doing
part one and part two.

625
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,335
And, like, we-- like,
there's a full, like,

626
00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:58,536
analytics system that
happens that determines

627
00:28:58,571 --> 00:29:00,780
what our schedule is going to
look like for the next month.

628
00:29:05,281 --> 00:29:08,117
So we're gonna do
some stuff around, like,

629
00:29:08,152 --> 00:29:10,119
kind of just be worshipping

630
00:29:10,154 --> 00:29:11,450
my-- my legs
and we're kissing

631
00:29:11,485 --> 00:29:13,254
and doing kind of
stuff like that.

632
00:29:13,289 --> 00:29:16,026
And then we're gonna do,
um, the face sitting part.

633
00:29:16,061 --> 00:29:17,929
When we do the face sitting,
I'm gonna have her

634
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:19,425
flip around
so her head is here.

635
00:29:19,460 --> 00:29:21,361
-Okay.
-And for--

636
00:29:21,396 --> 00:29:23,902
I want to get some
very specific shots

637
00:29:23,937 --> 00:29:28,137
of like here with--
of like looking up my ass.

638
00:29:28,172 --> 00:29:30,172
You're gonna wanna try to
get an angle from underneath.

639
00:29:30,207 --> 00:29:32,207
If you're doing it, like,
right where you are standing--

640
00:29:32,242 --> 00:29:34,044
Okay, like go down.
Go down further.

641
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:36,013
See-- see that's
much better?

642
00:29:36,048 --> 00:29:37,344
Do not stay in the same place.

643
00:29:37,379 --> 00:29:39,115
-Okay.
-Okay.

644
00:29:39,150 --> 00:29:40,545
Um, ready? And....

645
00:29:45,585 --> 00:29:47,222
Oh, this looks nice.

646
00:29:47,257 --> 00:29:49,158
-They are very cute.

647
00:29:49,193 --> 00:29:50,456
That's so cute.

648
00:29:51,058 --> 00:29:53,030
Oh, I know.

649
00:29:53,065 --> 00:29:55,098
It's like a
reinforced toe here.

650
00:29:55,133 --> 00:29:59,036
Fetishes
are defined as any sort of,

651
00:29:59,071 --> 00:30:03,634
um, sexual attraction
to a non-human object

652
00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:07,308
or a body part specific, so not
the totality of a human being.

653
00:30:07,343 --> 00:30:10,542
We don't really know
what causes fetishes.

654
00:30:10,577 --> 00:30:15,448
You know, we have all sorts
of anecdotal stories as to why.

655
00:30:15,483 --> 00:30:17,989
We know that when
you look at, um,

656
00:30:18,024 --> 00:30:21,586
FMRI studies and you look at
the brain that the turn on

657
00:30:21,621 --> 00:30:24,160
that they get from--
and the dopamine burst

658
00:30:24,195 --> 00:30:29,099
that they get from seeing
their fetish object is the same

659
00:30:29,134 --> 00:30:32,102
as the dopamine burst
that someone gets when seeing

660
00:30:32,137 --> 00:30:34,005
their romantic partner
that they're attracted to.

661
00:30:35,107 --> 00:30:37,305
I'm a lifelong foot guy.

662
00:30:37,340 --> 00:30:39,043
And women's feet
in particularly, obviously,

663
00:30:39,078 --> 00:30:40,539
that men's feet
are kind of gross

664
00:30:40,574 --> 00:30:42,211
to me.

665
00:30:42,246 --> 00:30:45,016
But, uh, I think
they're just amazing and--

666
00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:47,447
and pretty and they're really
underrated part of the body.

667
00:30:47,482 --> 00:30:50,153
They're very sensual
and there's been a lot of

668
00:30:50,188 --> 00:30:52,386
just, like,
scientific research, you know,

669
00:30:52,421 --> 00:30:54,454
in it where the feet
and the genitals

670
00:30:54,489 --> 00:30:56,159
and the brain
are very close to each other.

671
00:30:56,194 --> 00:30:58,392
There's like
possible connections there.

672
00:30:59,967 --> 00:31:02,132
There's different
experiences you have

673
00:31:02,167 --> 00:31:04,266
that inform your fetishes
and things like that.

674
00:31:04,301 --> 00:31:06,070
And I have often thought
about those things

675
00:31:06,105 --> 00:31:07,665
and actually thought about
a lot of the things

676
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:10,470
that have happened
in my life that I definitely

677
00:31:10,505 --> 00:31:13,176
probably gave someone a kink
or gave someone a fetish.

678
00:31:13,211 --> 00:31:14,639
You know what?
I'm not, sorry.

679
00:31:14,674 --> 00:31:16,410
Not-- not sorry.

680
00:31:16,445 --> 00:31:20,051
This online world
of fetishes has exploded.

681
00:31:20,086 --> 00:31:23,351
I think probably
before the last decade

682
00:31:23,386 --> 00:31:26,090
somebody with a fetish
really wanted to be closeted.

683
00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:28,620
It was taboo,
it was weird.

684
00:31:28,655 --> 00:31:32,129
Now, um,
it's just all over.

685
00:31:32,164 --> 00:31:34,296
It's so popular.
It's kind of amazing.

686
00:31:34,331 --> 00:31:36,232
You start getting
these communities

687
00:31:36,267 --> 00:31:39,301
of people online that are
into all kinds of crazy things.

688
00:31:39,336 --> 00:31:41,600
You know, clown fetish
and fart fetish

689
00:31:41,635 --> 00:31:44,273
and wedgie fetish
and balloon popping.

690
00:31:44,708 --> 00:31:46,506
Um, certainly
without the internet

691
00:31:46,541 --> 00:31:49,278
I don't think
that would be the case.

692
00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:51,643
Perfect.

693
00:31:59,554 --> 00:32:03,358
So I'd like for you
to tell me a little bit about

694
00:32:03,393 --> 00:32:06,493
where you think you wanna take
the Raevyn Rose brand

695
00:32:06,528 --> 00:32:09,463
or like what-- how you
would describe, you know,

696
00:32:09,498 --> 00:32:11,069
the-- that persona?

697
00:32:11,104 --> 00:32:13,005
Yeah, I really am
curious and open

698
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,468
to trying
all these new things.

699
00:32:14,503 --> 00:32:16,272
It's-- it's truly
a new life for me.

700
00:32:16,307 --> 00:32:18,439
All right. So cu-- curious
is a good keyword.

701
00:32:18,474 --> 00:32:20,111
-So we're-we're gonna--
-I met Alexandra

702
00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:22,443
through a mutual friend's
birthday party.

703
00:32:22,478 --> 00:32:24,478
The way I was coming
into the industry,

704
00:32:24,513 --> 00:32:26,051
I was taking it
very slow.

705
00:32:26,086 --> 00:32:28,119
I was only,
you know, doing camming

706
00:32:28,154 --> 00:32:29,681
and considering doing videos.

707
00:32:29,716 --> 00:32:32,057
Which fetishes
really speak to you right now

708
00:32:32,092 --> 00:32:35,027
that you could--
you could kind of see yourself

709
00:32:35,062 --> 00:32:37,557
marketing like more than--
than other things?

710
00:32:37,592 --> 00:32:39,493
-Humiliation would be one--
-Okay.

711
00:32:39,528 --> 00:32:42,166
--just 'cause it's--
it's very exciting.

712
00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:44,399
Or public stuff,
I really like public stuff,

713
00:32:44,434 --> 00:32:46,203
-figuring it out.
-That's a really good one.

714
00:32:46,238 --> 00:32:48,205
You know, Astro had
told me, "This-this chic's

715
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,635
really rad and you're
really gonna like her."

716
00:32:49,670 --> 00:32:51,307
And-- and I was like,
"Okay. Okay."

717
00:32:51,342 --> 00:32:53,111
So I messaged her
and I was like,

718
00:32:53,146 --> 00:32:55,443
"Hey, you wanna do
some weird stuff in Vegas?"

719
00:32:55,478 --> 00:32:59,117
And she's like, "Uh...
yeah, let's get weird."

720
00:32:59,152 --> 00:33:02,153
I am queen
of Khanum...

721
00:33:03,585 --> 00:33:06,190
I've come from a planet,
that's very far from you.

722
00:33:06,625 --> 00:33:10,788
But unfortunately
I have been unable to find

723
00:33:10,823 --> 00:33:12,691
a suitable host

724
00:33:12,726 --> 00:33:16,398
for the perpetuation
of my race.

725
00:33:16,433 --> 00:33:19,500
I did set up
the filming that day,

726
00:33:19,535 --> 00:33:22,701
um, for her to be essentially
submissive in the first half,

727
00:33:22,736 --> 00:33:24,637
and then I brought in
a film slave and had her be

728
00:33:24,672 --> 00:33:26,606
dominant to him
in the second half.

729
00:33:26,641 --> 00:33:28,839
I watched her go from one
to the other pretty seamlessly

730
00:33:28,874 --> 00:33:32,678
and work with me in both roles
and was like, you know,

731
00:33:32,713 --> 00:33:35,219
excited to learn sounds
and excited to learn bondages.

732
00:33:35,254 --> 00:33:36,420
And she was like,
"Cool, we're gonna dump

733
00:33:36,455 --> 00:33:38,651
this guy's cum in his mouth?
All right, let's go for it."

734
00:33:38,686 --> 00:33:41,819
That's so, so rare
to find someone to--

735
00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:43,557
to really be like that.

736
00:33:43,592 --> 00:33:45,394
No matter what kind
of video you're doing,

737
00:33:45,429 --> 00:33:46,824
even if you're doing
a foot fetish video,

738
00:33:46,859 --> 00:33:48,397
an ass worship video,

739
00:33:48,432 --> 00:33:50,267
like a masturbation
on anything,

740
00:33:50,302 --> 00:33:53,204
put your face in as much
of the shot as you can

741
00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:56,141
because that's actually
what's selling your videos.

742
00:33:56,176 --> 00:33:58,737
I have turned away
probably the last 200 people

743
00:33:58,772 --> 00:34:00,673
that have come to me
and asked me to train them.

744
00:34:01,275 --> 00:34:03,313
I definitely
had some individuals

745
00:34:03,348 --> 00:34:07,218
for whom they were not
as morally and ethically sound.

746
00:34:07,253 --> 00:34:10,386
I feel like at this point
I've become a much better judge

747
00:34:10,421 --> 00:34:13,653
of character and I no longer,
"I'm interested

748
00:34:13,688 --> 00:34:16,392
in teaching someone
who's only motivated by money."

749
00:34:16,427 --> 00:34:18,559
Okay, so,
when you're setting up,

750
00:34:18,594 --> 00:34:20,363
you're gonna
set your lights up--

751
00:34:20,398 --> 00:34:22,728
There's a big difference
between selling a persona

752
00:34:22,763 --> 00:34:24,400
and selling yourself.

753
00:34:24,435 --> 00:34:25,863
People will always
try to pay you for more

754
00:34:25,898 --> 00:34:27,436
than you want to do.

755
00:34:27,471 --> 00:34:30,637
The best way
to combat it is to not--

756
00:34:30,672 --> 00:34:33,475
to not be offended, to not
be aggressive about it

757
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:35,642
and to-- like,
to the line just, like,

758
00:34:35,677 --> 00:34:37,413
we were doing before
where you're like,

759
00:34:37,448 --> 00:34:39,382
"Nope, that's not
something I offer," right?

760
00:34:39,417 --> 00:34:43,320
But there may come times where
someone badgers you enough

761
00:34:43,355 --> 00:34:45,454
or offers you
a lot of money

762
00:34:45,489 --> 00:34:47,192
and you're on
the fence about it.

763
00:34:47,227 --> 00:34:50,294
I want you,
and I really, really want you,

764
00:34:50,329 --> 00:34:53,297
that if you begin
to feel even the slightest bit

765
00:34:53,332 --> 00:34:56,300
oily,
uncomfortable, you know,

766
00:34:56,335 --> 00:34:57,862
like-- like feeling like--
I'm getting goosebumps

767
00:34:57,897 --> 00:34:58,929
thinking about
this 'cause it's such a-- such

768
00:34:58,964 --> 00:35:00,799
a powerful thing.

769
00:35:00,834 --> 00:35:02,537
If you feel in any way
that you are going to start

770
00:35:02,572 --> 00:35:05,540
to compromise any part
of your morals or ethics

771
00:35:05,575 --> 00:35:07,377
to get paid,
don't fucking do it.

772
00:35:07,879 --> 00:35:11,249
Don't-- don't do it,
because it's never worth it.

773
00:35:11,284 --> 00:35:13,482
Because afterwards
you feel like you gave

774
00:35:13,517 --> 00:35:16,518
a piece of your soul
that you didn't need to sell.

775
00:35:16,553 --> 00:35:20,423
♪

776
00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:22,656
There's a certain
quality that you need

777
00:35:22,691 --> 00:35:26,198
as a sex worker
to kind of believe

778
00:35:26,233 --> 00:35:29,333
that what you're doing
is inherently good.

779
00:35:29,368 --> 00:35:31,269
We live in a society
that people still tell you

780
00:35:31,304 --> 00:35:32,831
that being
a sex worker is--

781
00:35:32,866 --> 00:35:34,800
is like dirty or gross
or it's immoral, or--

782
00:35:34,835 --> 00:35:36,868
or that, you know,
"You should be ashamed of it."

783
00:35:36,903 --> 00:35:40,311
And it's hard
to get that dialogue

784
00:35:40,346 --> 00:35:41,873
outta your head, right?

785
00:35:41,908 --> 00:35:43,908
But if you inherently believe
that the thing

786
00:35:43,943 --> 00:35:45,811
that you're doing is positive,
it does good for other people,

787
00:35:45,846 --> 00:35:47,846
it does good for you,
like being able to express it

788
00:35:47,881 --> 00:35:49,551
and participate in it
and all those things

789
00:35:49,586 --> 00:35:52,818
actually has some
real intrinsic value,

790
00:35:52,853 --> 00:35:55,887
then it's just very,
very nourishing.

791
00:35:57,627 --> 00:36:00,760
I've been taking
these big steps and it's all,

792
00:36:00,795 --> 00:36:02,729
you know,
towards a career,

793
00:36:02,764 --> 00:36:04,632
which is a great
feeling for me.

794
00:36:04,667 --> 00:36:07,536
With the training I'm going
to go through with Alex,

795
00:36:07,571 --> 00:36:10,341
eventually producing
my own content

796
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:13,410
is going to be
my-- my job

797
00:36:13,445 --> 00:36:15,005
and I'm not gonna
have a day job.

798
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,645
It's just, like,
very surreal to me

799
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,284
that I've been
making these moves

800
00:36:19,319 --> 00:36:21,011
all within
the past six months.

801
00:36:21,046 --> 00:36:25,488
♪

802
00:36:27,459 --> 00:36:30,328
We're shooting
in Mistress Tia's mansion

803
00:36:30,363 --> 00:36:32,462
her place
here in Vancouver.

804
00:36:32,497 --> 00:36:34,893
What I think we should do
is it's gonna be--

805
00:36:34,928 --> 00:36:36,697
like, you have to
work late on something

806
00:36:36,732 --> 00:36:38,732
when it's kind of
a thinly veiled threesome

807
00:36:38,767 --> 00:36:41,438
with your boss
and your hot coworker.

808
00:36:41,473 --> 00:36:44,034
You need 25 videos
to launch your store.

809
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:46,740
-Mm-hmm.
-Okay? 25 videos shot.

810
00:36:47,442 --> 00:36:51,008
If you can't release
a video every single day,

811
00:36:51,043 --> 00:36:53,417
then you're gonna lose all
the traffic in the beginning

812
00:36:53,452 --> 00:36:55,287
and you're gonna get a bunch
of traffic in the beginning.

813
00:36:55,322 --> 00:36:57,487
And all these websites
feature you as a new store,

814
00:36:57,522 --> 00:37:00,886
and if you are uncomfortable
with whatever you're saying

815
00:37:00,921 --> 00:37:02,756
or you're like,
"Oh, this sounds stupid,"

816
00:37:02,791 --> 00:37:04,593
I don't care how stupid it is,
just keep on going.

817
00:37:04,628 --> 00:37:06,331
Many times I'm like,
"This is-- this is moronic,"

818
00:37:06,366 --> 00:37:08,300
and the guys are like,
"I love this too much."

819
00:37:08,335 --> 00:37:09,730
So don't worry about it.

820
00:37:09,765 --> 00:37:11,996
I would try to do
a nice product mix

821
00:37:12,031 --> 00:37:16,374
of solo, like, switchy stuff,
as well as dom stuff.

822
00:37:16,409 --> 00:37:19,542
So if they only see one type
of-- of a particular fetish,

823
00:37:19,577 --> 00:37:21,412
then they may not
come back.

824
00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:24,382
I mean, I could terminate you
for cause right now.

825
00:37:24,851 --> 00:37:27,352
Or do you think you feel like
you really need this job?

826
00:37:27,821 --> 00:37:29,915
You know,
a pervert like this,

827
00:37:29,950 --> 00:37:31,785
what do they value?

828
00:37:31,820 --> 00:37:34,524
All of this time in
the office has been so devoted

829
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,560
to his colleagues,
his female colleagues.

830
00:37:37,595 --> 00:37:40,893
I'm definitely nervous
having a little bit of a crowd.

831
00:37:40,928 --> 00:37:42,829
And it also being
my first time having

832
00:37:42,864 --> 00:37:45,634
a whole lot of
improv dialogue,

833
00:37:45,669 --> 00:37:47,504
I'm a little--
I'm a little warm.

834
00:37:47,539 --> 00:37:48,934
Yeah. My-- my grandmother
used to say that

835
00:37:48,969 --> 00:37:50,606
I was such a ham that when--

836
00:37:50,641 --> 00:37:51,871
when the refrigerator
light came on

837
00:37:51,906 --> 00:37:53,444
I did a number.

838
00:37:53,479 --> 00:37:54,808
And I was like
"That's not true."

839
00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:56,744
Oh, my God,

840
00:37:56,779 --> 00:38:00,715
this porn
is so fucking hot!

841
00:38:03,049 --> 00:38:04,719
You know what?

842
00:38:04,754 --> 00:38:07,425
I don't see your pants
growing yet, why?

843
00:38:08,461 --> 00:38:10,659
There's nothing going on here.

844
00:38:12,663 --> 00:38:14,465
You want a better look?

845
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:15,730
You're gonna
start making a lot of money.

846
00:38:15,765 --> 00:38:16,962
The money feels
really good.

847
00:38:17,864 --> 00:38:20,097
But once you get to
the point that you're being

848
00:38:20,132 --> 00:38:22,099
able to cover all
of your own expenses,

849
00:38:22,134 --> 00:38:26,070
try to keep your cost
of living at 50%

850
00:38:26,105 --> 00:38:27,907
or less of
what you're making.

851
00:38:28,309 --> 00:38:32,516
Because no matter
how much money you make,

852
00:38:32,551 --> 00:38:35,519
this is-- you-- you cannot
do this forever, right?

853
00:38:35,554 --> 00:38:38,951
Aw, you're so--
you're so weak and sensitive.

854
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,054
Good enough.
Good enough, I guess.

855
00:38:43,089 --> 00:38:47,058
You know, I think I'm
gonna get myself some toys

856
00:38:47,093 --> 00:38:49,797
and, uh, and please
myself a little more.

857
00:38:50,232 --> 00:38:53,064
You can clean up.
Good job.

858
00:38:54,705 --> 00:38:56,573
-Okay.
-Cut it.

859
00:38:58,203 --> 00:38:59,708
So next time you do

860
00:38:59,743 --> 00:39:01,072
more small penis
stimulation stuff,

861
00:39:01,107 --> 00:39:03,448
talk more about
the size of the dick

862
00:39:03,483 --> 00:39:05,175
-and how the dick doesn't--
-Yeah.

863
00:39:05,210 --> 00:39:07,584
Um, especially 'cause you do
solo masturbation stuff--

864
00:39:07,619 --> 00:39:10,081
not many people combine
small penis stimulation

865
00:39:10,116 --> 00:39:11,984
with like,
nudity and masturbation.

866
00:39:12,019 --> 00:39:13,722
So maybe
you're gonna be like,

867
00:39:13,757 --> 00:39:15,493
"This is the kind of
cock that pleases me.

868
00:39:15,528 --> 00:39:17,121
Your cock
doesn't please me.

869
00:39:17,156 --> 00:39:18,859
Well, I guess you can watch
what it would look like.

870
00:39:18,894 --> 00:39:20,696
Ha, ha.",
you know, and then--

871
00:39:20,731 --> 00:39:22,434
and go from there, it's
really-- it's a good angle.

872
00:39:22,469 --> 00:39:23,897
-Okay, cool.
-I'd definitely do that.

873
00:39:23,932 --> 00:39:25,932
-Good job.
-Yeah. Thanks.

874
00:39:26,901 --> 00:39:29,067
She comes from
a generation that has--

875
00:39:29,102 --> 00:39:32,070
has the least amount
of stigma attached to sex work

876
00:39:32,105 --> 00:39:33,742
that's ever happened, right?

877
00:39:33,777 --> 00:39:35,876
She's not having
to unpack the baggage.

878
00:39:43,083 --> 00:39:46,458
My mom
first thought I was a stripper

879
00:39:46,493 --> 00:39:47,954
and I was like,
"Mom, I can't dance.

880
00:39:47,989 --> 00:39:50,187
Like, there's no
fucking way I'm a stripper."

881
00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:52,464
And then-- and then
she thought I was escorting

882
00:39:52,499 --> 00:39:55,192
and I was just like,
"Maybe if I'm completely honest

883
00:39:55,227 --> 00:39:58,129
with her,
she'll feel like I'm safe."

884
00:39:58,802 --> 00:40:00,098
Feet...

885
00:40:01,068 --> 00:40:02,573
ass.

886
00:40:03,741 --> 00:40:06,907
Mm-mm, what really

887
00:40:06,942 --> 00:40:09,712
fucks you up
the most?

888
00:40:09,747 --> 00:40:13,078
She thinks if I'm nude,
it's the worst thing ever.

889
00:40:13,113 --> 00:40:15,047
So I try to
explain to her like,

890
00:40:15,082 --> 00:40:18,556
"Guys are still jerking off,
but I'm clothed

891
00:40:18,591 --> 00:40:21,152
and I'm at home
and I'm safe and I'm happy."

892
00:40:21,187 --> 00:40:22,758
And I try to
give her detail

893
00:40:22,793 --> 00:40:23,924
and she just
doesn't wanna hear it,

894
00:40:23,959 --> 00:40:25,255
but she's okay with it.

895
00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:27,763
My brother
and my dad know and, um,

896
00:40:27,798 --> 00:40:29,732
I had to wine
and dine him first.

897
00:40:29,767 --> 00:40:32,196
I kind of I had to,
you know, make sure

898
00:40:32,231 --> 00:40:35,672
that they're
drunk for the, uh, reveal.

899
00:40:35,707 --> 00:40:37,707
And, um, my brother
had already known

900
00:40:37,742 --> 00:40:40,644
for three years, he was just,
like, keeping it a secret.

901
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:43,207
He gave me this burst
of laughter and then just,

902
00:40:43,242 --> 00:40:44,780
you know,
"I-- I've already known and--

903
00:40:44,815 --> 00:40:46,650
and I'm cool with it."

904
00:40:46,685 --> 00:40:50,280
My dad held my hand,
gave me a stern, serious look

905
00:40:50,315 --> 00:40:52,821
and he said,
"It doesn't matter what

906
00:40:52,856 --> 00:40:55,021
your occupation is,
you're still my daughter."

907
00:40:55,590 --> 00:40:57,595
So some of my family knows

908
00:40:57,630 --> 00:40:59,223
and most of
my friends know.

909
00:40:59,258 --> 00:41:01,698
Uh, like some of the older
members of my family,

910
00:41:01,733 --> 00:41:03,931
I'm waiting
specifically until

911
00:41:03,966 --> 00:41:06,802
I'm in a pretty good financial
position to tell them.

912
00:41:06,837 --> 00:41:10,641
I feel like people judge you
less about what you do

913
00:41:10,676 --> 00:41:12,775
in this industry if you're
making enough money to,

914
00:41:12,810 --> 00:41:15,745
like, do well for yourself
and to do well for your family.

915
00:41:16,180 --> 00:41:19,914
I feel like once
I'm pretty solid and like,

916
00:41:19,949 --> 00:41:21,784
"Oh, I've been
here for three years.

917
00:41:21,819 --> 00:41:23,819
Oh, by the way I've been
editing porn this entire time.

918
00:41:23,854 --> 00:41:26,118
Don't be mad at me."

919
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:28,318
I-- I had a thing that

920
00:41:28,353 --> 00:41:30,254
I could tell people
in the vanilla world.

921
00:41:30,289 --> 00:41:32,091
When people
asked me what I did,

922
00:41:32,126 --> 00:41:34,060
I could say,
"I breed cats,"

923
00:41:34,095 --> 00:41:36,227
if I knew that they really
would not be okay.

924
00:41:36,262 --> 00:41:38,603
I broadcasted my kittens
from the time they were born

925
00:41:38,638 --> 00:41:41,331
until they--
until they went home and uh,

926
00:41:41,366 --> 00:41:44,103
the cats were very popular
and my stream, you know,

927
00:41:44,138 --> 00:41:46,908
used to get a million views,
uh, on average.

928
00:41:48,274 --> 00:41:50,978
I found out
about Alex's double life,

929
00:41:51,013 --> 00:41:53,585
so to speak, probably

930
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:56,720
when I was like 19.

931
00:41:56,755 --> 00:41:59,118
A part of me was like,
"Is this safe? Is this okay?

932
00:41:59,153 --> 00:42:02,220
Should I, you know,
not be as close to you

933
00:42:02,255 --> 00:42:03,353
when you're doing this?"

934
00:42:03,388 --> 00:42:05,025
Like, I just didn't know.

935
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:06,895
She kind of appealed
to my science side

936
00:42:06,930 --> 00:42:09,161
and knew how much I loved that
and would talk to me

937
00:42:09,196 --> 00:42:11,097
a lot about
the psychology of this

938
00:42:11,132 --> 00:42:13,935
and why people feel this way
and why this stuff exists.

939
00:42:13,970 --> 00:42:15,871
And if you approach me
from that way,

940
00:42:15,906 --> 00:42:17,873
I'm a lot more receptive
to that understanding.

941
00:42:17,908 --> 00:42:20,810
She'd show me things online
or she would explain

942
00:42:20,845 --> 00:42:22,977
why that
this fetish exists

943
00:42:23,012 --> 00:42:25,078
or why these people
did this profession,

944
00:42:25,113 --> 00:42:26,981
and it helped me.

945
00:42:27,016 --> 00:42:29,852
It helped me a lot and
it also opened me to a concept

946
00:42:29,887 --> 00:42:32,756
that there were more
than traditional types of porn.

947
00:42:32,791 --> 00:42:34,384
And once that
kind of hit for me,

948
00:42:34,419 --> 00:42:36,155
I really didn't--
I never became

949
00:42:36,190 --> 00:42:38,190
judgmental again, really.

950
00:42:39,061 --> 00:42:41,094
Um...

951
00:42:41,129 --> 00:42:43,030
I do see a connection
between her childhood

952
00:42:43,065 --> 00:42:44,834
and what she does
for a living,

953
00:42:44,869 --> 00:42:47,199
and in the ways that
she has a self-importance

954
00:42:47,234 --> 00:42:48,970
in real life just as
she does in these videos.

955
00:42:49,005 --> 00:42:52,072
And I think that
happened because she was raised

956
00:42:52,107 --> 00:42:54,679
in a situation
that required that for her.

957
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,245
Growing up was not something
I'd like think about much

958
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,950
or talk about much.

959
00:43:01,985 --> 00:43:04,920
My mom had-- had her
many mental issues and--

960
00:43:04,955 --> 00:43:06,790
and I came to
find out some, you know,

961
00:43:06,825 --> 00:43:08,187
drug related issues
as well.

962
00:43:08,822 --> 00:43:11,157
Alex was
essentially my mother

963
00:43:11,192 --> 00:43:13,192
and I've actually bought her
Mother's Day gifts

964
00:43:13,227 --> 00:43:14,864
and I've called her
my mother-sister hybrid.

965
00:43:14,899 --> 00:43:16,998
You know, she--
she was that person to me.

966
00:43:18,331 --> 00:43:20,298
The things that my mother--

967
00:43:20,333 --> 00:43:22,135
that my mother did throughout
the course of my childhood,

968
00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:23,840
I should have been
fucked up.

969
00:43:25,074 --> 00:43:28,339
To understand
as a kid,

970
00:43:28,374 --> 00:43:30,143
I used to have
to take money

971
00:43:30,178 --> 00:43:31,848
out of her purse
when she was sleeping

972
00:43:31,883 --> 00:43:33,377
to pay the bills so that
we would have hot water

973
00:43:33,412 --> 00:43:35,214
or that we would
have food or things like that.

974
00:43:35,249 --> 00:43:37,315
Like-- like, she'd had
no functional way really,

975
00:43:37,350 --> 00:43:39,790
or functioning, honestly,
after-- after addiction.

976
00:43:39,825 --> 00:43:41,990
I always went through
some anger, I know, over it.

977
00:43:42,025 --> 00:43:43,827
She saw a lot more
than I did.

978
00:43:43,862 --> 00:43:46,731
You know, when my parents split
I went with my dad,

979
00:43:46,766 --> 00:43:49,063
and she wasn't, um,
my dad's daughter

980
00:43:49,098 --> 00:43:52,231
so we didn't really have the--
an ability to see each other.

981
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,466
Um, I know that I was
really attached to her so,

982
00:43:56,501 --> 00:43:58,039
you know,
I remember it hurting.

983
00:43:58,074 --> 00:43:59,909
I remember
it being really hard

984
00:43:59,944 --> 00:44:01,944
and uh--
Oh, geez, I don't wanna cry.

985
00:44:03,849 --> 00:44:06,047
The one thing that our--

986
00:44:06,082 --> 00:44:08,016
rather tumultuous
childhood taught us

987
00:44:08,051 --> 00:44:10,821
was if you hold
on to things from--

988
00:44:10,856 --> 00:44:12,823
from your past,
it takes up room

989
00:44:12,858 --> 00:44:14,154
where love could go.

990
00:44:16,191 --> 00:44:19,324
After I had my son
and she flew me up here, um,

991
00:44:19,359 --> 00:44:22,393
and we were just hanging out
and she kind of started to

992
00:44:22,428 --> 00:44:27,365
casually line up her business,
and um, you know, I didn't--

993
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,499
I don't think I got the full
scope immediately as she--

994
00:44:29,534 --> 00:44:31,501
I think I was definitely
fed in a little bit of it.

995
00:44:31,536 --> 00:44:35,076
So I think it was a way to kind
of reconnect us all together

996
00:44:35,111 --> 00:44:37,881
and-- and be honest,
you know, about what she did.

997
00:44:37,916 --> 00:44:41,885
But I feel like the women
who really thrive in femdom

998
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,316
are women who have either
been through adversity

999
00:44:44,351 --> 00:44:47,319
or have been through
situations that have,

1000
00:44:47,354 --> 00:44:48,859
like, tried to
beat them down

1001
00:44:48,894 --> 00:44:50,388
and have become
stronger for it.

1002
00:44:50,423 --> 00:44:53,457
Because you're not
a woman in any business

1003
00:44:53,492 --> 00:44:55,327
without having
a thick skin

1004
00:44:55,362 --> 00:44:58,198
and without having a kick ass
attitude and surviving.

1005
00:44:58,233 --> 00:45:02,070
So I have these guys send me
a list of pirated videos.

1006
00:45:02,105 --> 00:45:04,039
When they find them,
they'll send 'em to you.

1007
00:45:04,074 --> 00:45:05,909
-Right, Right.
-Anytime you find....

1008
00:45:05,944 --> 00:45:07,438
I do a thing
called DMCAs, which is, uh,

1009
00:45:07,473 --> 00:45:09,143
essentially
a privacy protection

1010
00:45:09,178 --> 00:45:11,178
and I have to contact,

1011
00:45:11,213 --> 00:45:13,510
um, the heads of these sites
that are illegally taking

1012
00:45:13,545 --> 00:45:16,546
her videos and using them
for their capital gain,

1013
00:45:16,581 --> 00:45:20,022
um, and kind of send them
a request to take it down.

1014
00:45:20,057 --> 00:45:21,859
Alex described it as,
um, you know,

1015
00:45:21,894 --> 00:45:23,289
mushrooms after the rain.

1016
00:45:23,324 --> 00:45:24,455
You're constantly
chopping 'em down

1017
00:45:24,490 --> 00:45:26,094
and they're gonna come back.

1018
00:45:26,129 --> 00:45:27,095
But it's about controlling it.
Yeah.

1019
00:45:31,563 --> 00:45:33,970
This industry porn
in general is going

1020
00:45:34,005 --> 00:45:36,907
more towards
bespoke or custom porn.

1021
00:45:36,942 --> 00:45:39,437
Porn has to change
because it will die

1022
00:45:39,472 --> 00:45:41,571
if we depend on
the same model

1023
00:45:41,606 --> 00:45:43,540
because they're stealing
from us.

1024
00:45:43,575 --> 00:45:45,883
Like, people think, "Oh, yeah,
they'll always make porn,'

1025
00:45:45,918 --> 00:45:47,313
but it
will be shitty porn.

1026
00:45:47,348 --> 00:45:49,249
Just like
they'll always make music,

1027
00:45:49,284 --> 00:45:51,889
but it will be shitty music
because you stole it all.

1028
00:45:51,924 --> 00:45:54,221
So it's definitely
going more towards

1029
00:45:54,256 --> 00:45:58,830
independent
amateur custom porn.

1030
00:45:58,865 --> 00:46:00,590
But I remember
the first few times

1031
00:46:00,625 --> 00:46:03,131
and it was the same-- same
producer that kept taking it,

1032
00:46:03,166 --> 00:46:04,935
or same uploader.

1033
00:46:04,970 --> 00:46:06,937
And I was like, "If I ever
saw this guy in public,

1034
00:46:06,972 --> 00:46:08,565
I would definitely punch him,
like, straight in the face,"

1035
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,941
'cause it's really
disrespectful, you know?

1036
00:46:16,377 --> 00:46:17,948
Thank you Goddess.

1037
00:46:21,921 --> 00:46:23,316
First or second date

1038
00:46:23,351 --> 00:46:24,922
is when I tell people
about my job.

1039
00:46:24,957 --> 00:46:26,891
You know, guys
that are my age

1040
00:46:26,926 --> 00:46:30,422
are not the most confident,
especially with the kind of

1041
00:46:30,457 --> 00:46:33,260
work I'm doing, a lot of
the time they're insecure.

1042
00:46:33,295 --> 00:46:35,031
You know, they think
that they're not good enough

1043
00:46:35,066 --> 00:46:37,396
and it's-- it's like,
you know, it's work

1044
00:46:37,431 --> 00:46:40,366
and it's personal relationships
and they-- you know,

1045
00:46:40,401 --> 00:46:42,566
guys don't really
understand how that is.

1046
00:46:43,101 --> 00:46:48,110
Everyone knows
that you're with me

1047
00:46:48,145 --> 00:46:52,411
even as I put my hands

1048
00:46:52,446 --> 00:46:57,317
between a strange man's legs
right in front of you all.

1049
00:46:57,352 --> 00:47:01,090
I've seen girls have
their stuff taken down

1050
00:47:01,125 --> 00:47:03,653
that they've done
for years and years

1051
00:47:03,688 --> 00:47:05,226
because their
new boyfriend wants them

1052
00:47:05,261 --> 00:47:06,326
to do something else.

1053
00:47:06,361 --> 00:47:08,031
Red flag number one,

1054
00:47:08,066 --> 00:47:10,231
"Stop doing what you're doing
for me,"

1055
00:47:10,266 --> 00:47:13,465
and it's a guilt thing, like,
"Oh, well if you love me,

1056
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:15,368
do you care about
that more than me?

1057
00:47:15,403 --> 00:47:17,535
Do you care about everyone
else's dick more than me?"

1058
00:47:17,570 --> 00:47:20,637
Like, that's
a really manipulative way

1059
00:47:20,672 --> 00:47:22,276
to approach that.

1060
00:47:22,311 --> 00:47:24,179
I used to call it
stripper boyfriend

1061
00:47:24,214 --> 00:47:26,115
because that's
where I used to see it.

1062
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:28,183
They would
spend their money

1063
00:47:28,218 --> 00:47:30,317
and play with the Xbox
that they bought them,

1064
00:47:30,352 --> 00:47:33,122
but then call them
a whore at the same time.

1065
00:47:33,157 --> 00:47:35,652
And it is so common
and a lot of people

1066
00:47:35,687 --> 00:47:38,226
are just like,
"I don't date till I retire."

1067
00:47:38,261 --> 00:47:40,657
It's quite challenging,
actually, 'cause you don't know

1068
00:47:40,692 --> 00:47:43,099
if-- if they are
interested in you

1069
00:47:43,134 --> 00:47:45,200
because of your--
of what you do,

1070
00:47:45,235 --> 00:47:47,433
or if they're
really dating you

1071
00:47:47,468 --> 00:47:50,370
because of who you
really are as a person.

1072
00:47:50,405 --> 00:47:53,109
And I have
a really strict

1073
00:47:53,144 --> 00:47:55,672
'no dating a client' policy.

1074
00:47:55,707 --> 00:47:57,278
Very, very strict.

1075
00:47:57,313 --> 00:47:59,049
I have never
broken that rule ever

1076
00:47:59,084 --> 00:48:00,677
since I started
in this business.

1077
00:48:00,712 --> 00:48:04,054
But, you know, when it comes
to me having casual sex

1078
00:48:04,089 --> 00:48:07,024
and, um,
just being me as a girl,

1079
00:48:07,059 --> 00:48:08,586
it-- it's so much fun--
it helps.

1080
00:48:08,621 --> 00:48:11,963
Them knowing
that I'm a FemDom and that,

1081
00:48:11,998 --> 00:48:14,625
you know, it'll be
a fun sexual experience,

1082
00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:16,660
it's always, uh--
it always comes in handy

1083
00:48:16,695 --> 00:48:18,068
when I try
to pick up men.

1084
00:48:18,670 --> 00:48:20,631
I was actually, uh,
I was going on a second date

1085
00:48:20,666 --> 00:48:23,271
with a guy that I kind of,
you know, I kind of liked.

1086
00:48:23,306 --> 00:48:25,306
You know, I hadn't really
made up my mind about him yet.

1087
00:48:25,341 --> 00:48:27,638
And he brags to me that
he's told all of his friends,

1088
00:48:27,673 --> 00:48:29,376
"Oh, I'm going on a date
with a dominatrix."

1089
00:48:29,411 --> 00:48:31,411
And I was like,
"And now we have no more date."

1090
00:48:31,446 --> 00:48:33,149
And he's like, "Why?

1091
00:48:33,184 --> 00:48:34,645
Well, I just find you
really interesting."

1092
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,416
And I said,
"You have distilled me down

1093
00:48:36,451 --> 00:48:39,452
to my profession,
but I am not my job, okay?

1094
00:48:39,487 --> 00:48:41,190
I put--
I breathe life into my job,

1095
00:48:41,225 --> 00:48:43,159
my job does not
breathe life into me."

1096
00:48:43,661 --> 00:48:45,326
When''s the last time...

1097
00:48:46,593 --> 00:48:50,397
you were truly happy?

1098
00:48:50,432 --> 00:48:52,267
Alex likes
to care for others.

1099
00:48:52,302 --> 00:48:55,435
Alex loves to give back
to others and support others.

1100
00:48:55,470 --> 00:48:58,174
Um, but it's a--
it's a major problem for me

1101
00:48:58,209 --> 00:48:59,769
with a lot of the people
in her life

1102
00:48:59,804 --> 00:49:01,980
who don't care for her
and support her enough.

1103
00:49:02,515 --> 00:49:05,313
I fit into Alex's life
as her creative other half.

1104
00:49:05,348 --> 00:49:07,579
Alex and I are each
one piece of a happy soul.

1105
00:49:07,614 --> 00:49:09,383
She's somebody
I love so much

1106
00:49:09,418 --> 00:49:11,022
and to see
somebody that you love...

1107
00:49:12,058 --> 00:49:14,091
heartbroken or struggling

1108
00:49:14,126 --> 00:49:16,786
and there's nothing
you can do to fix it,

1109
00:49:16,821 --> 00:49:18,326
is really difficult.

1110
00:49:18,361 --> 00:49:21,692
After Alex left
her marriage,

1111
00:49:21,727 --> 00:49:24,464
uh, she also left
the studio

1112
00:49:24,499 --> 00:49:27,467
and we didn't see her
for long periods of time.

1113
00:49:27,502 --> 00:49:29,040
And when that happened,

1114
00:49:29,075 --> 00:49:30,800
things really
started to change.

1115
00:49:30,835 --> 00:49:33,539
I would say they really
started to go downhill.

1116
00:49:34,074 --> 00:49:36,377
The way that we'd
split the business was that

1117
00:49:36,412 --> 00:49:39,479
I still maintained
ownership of the dungeon.

1118
00:49:39,514 --> 00:49:42,152
Like all-- all the content
in the dungeon and its name

1119
00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:44,484
and the training program
that I developed,

1120
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:48,092
and that he would operate
its day-to-day activities.

1121
00:49:48,627 --> 00:49:50,457
We were still
working the same amount,

1122
00:49:50,492 --> 00:49:52,492
but we were
making a lot less.

1123
00:49:52,527 --> 00:49:54,758
And I would say
we were actually

1124
00:49:54,793 --> 00:49:57,299
even working harder,
putting in more hours,

1125
00:49:57,334 --> 00:49:58,630
taking more sessions.

1126
00:49:59,132 --> 00:50:01,369
And I'd look at the schedule
and I would see like--

1127
00:50:01,404 --> 00:50:03,107
like there'd be
nothing for few weeks,

1128
00:50:03,142 --> 00:50:04,339
and then there'd be
all these sessions

1129
00:50:04,374 --> 00:50:06,143
and nothing
for a few weeks.

1130
00:50:06,178 --> 00:50:07,408
And I'm like, "God,
that's gonna be so difficult

1131
00:50:07,443 --> 00:50:08,640
for the girls to do."

1132
00:50:08,675 --> 00:50:09,774
Like, I mean, it's-- like,

1133
00:50:09,810 --> 00:50:12,182
it just seemed to be--
it seemed to be a lot of work.

1134
00:50:12,217 --> 00:50:14,679
Joseph is a very
charismatic individual.

1135
00:50:14,714 --> 00:50:18,221
I met Joseph
right off the bat, um,

1136
00:50:18,256 --> 00:50:20,289
when Alex and I were starting
to get to know each other,

1137
00:50:20,324 --> 00:50:23,259
and he is an engaging
individual.

1138
00:50:23,294 --> 00:50:25,624
He's-- uh,
on the surface,

1139
00:50:25,659 --> 00:50:27,362
he seems to have it all
put together.

1140
00:50:27,397 --> 00:50:28,759
He seems to be
very coordinated.

1141
00:50:28,794 --> 00:50:30,398
He seems to be
very on top of it.

1142
00:50:30,433 --> 00:50:33,368
If we had a problem,
it was Alex

1143
00:50:33,403 --> 00:50:35,502
who would go
and talk to Joseph

1144
00:50:35,537 --> 00:50:37,372
and, you know,
fight the fight.

1145
00:50:37,407 --> 00:50:39,440
You know,
we lost our advocate

1146
00:50:39,475 --> 00:50:42,344
and Joseph has
a very loud voice

1147
00:50:42,379 --> 00:50:45,644
in a lot of ways
and, um, we--

1148
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:48,482
we weren't able to stand up
for ourselves as well.

1149
00:50:49,749 --> 00:50:51,155
I sort
of felt worried.

1150
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:52,882
I started to go,
"Okay, well,

1151
00:50:52,917 --> 00:50:56,226
if I get a phone call tomorrow
that, you know, like,

1152
00:50:56,261 --> 00:50:58,789
the lease hasn't been paid,
what am I gonna do?

1153
00:50:58,824 --> 00:51:00,428
Like, if I get
a phone call tomorrow,

1154
00:51:00,463 --> 00:51:01,792
like, well, about--
about, you know,

1155
00:51:01,827 --> 00:51:03,464
one of the girls
wants to quit."

1156
00:51:03,499 --> 00:51:05,235
And I was realizing
I didn't want

1157
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:07,138
to run the dungeon
the way that I had before.

1158
00:51:07,173 --> 00:51:08,205
It was exhausting.

1159
00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:11,505
You know, I'm gonna,
unfortunately, have to continue

1160
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:14,838
to untie things
from him legally.

1161
00:51:14,873 --> 00:51:16,906
I had kind of left
some things here and there

1162
00:51:16,941 --> 00:51:18,776
because I was like,
"Hey, we trust each other and--

1163
00:51:18,811 --> 00:51:20,778
and, you know,
divorce sucks and it's messy.

1164
00:51:20,813 --> 00:51:23,220
And, like, unraveling
a business is messy."

1165
00:51:23,255 --> 00:51:24,914
And now
I have to be aggressive

1166
00:51:24,949 --> 00:51:27,125
about unraveling
these things.

1167
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,359
I'm gonna
have to go in and either

1168
00:51:30,394 --> 00:51:32,889
exert control over it
and reclaim it

1169
00:51:32,924 --> 00:51:34,693
or decide
what's gonna have to go

1170
00:51:34,728 --> 00:51:35,793
and what's gonna stay.

1171
00:51:37,962 --> 00:51:40,798
I do feel like,
sex work is work...

1172
00:51:42,274 --> 00:51:43,339
and...

1173
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:48,443
you know that people are gonna
say you're a whore.

1174
00:51:48,478 --> 00:51:50,280
"Like you're a fucking whore.

1175
00:51:50,315 --> 00:51:51,578
Like, oh, you can't--
You're so stupid.

1176
00:51:51,613 --> 00:51:53,349
You-- you can't
use your talent.

1177
00:51:53,384 --> 00:51:55,186
So, you--
There's nothing going for you.

1178
00:51:55,221 --> 00:51:56,781
It is where you have to use
your body to make money

1179
00:51:56,816 --> 00:51:58,453
or you have to use
sex to make money."

1180
00:51:58,488 --> 00:52:00,917
And I think that,
yes and no, because

1181
00:52:00,952 --> 00:52:02,886
I feel like I'm smart,

1182
00:52:02,921 --> 00:52:05,592
because I figured out that
I can use this to make money.

1183
00:52:05,627 --> 00:52:06,956
I built a business.

1184
00:52:06,991 --> 00:52:08,925
I, you know,
I-- I pay my taxes.

1185
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,433
I-- I'm a--
I'm a legit company, you know?

1186
00:52:12,002 --> 00:52:15,437
It's not that all sex work
is empowering because it's not.

1187
00:52:16,373 --> 00:52:20,277
But it's not empowering,
not because it's sex work,

1188
00:52:20,312 --> 00:52:22,774
it's not empowering
because we do not empower

1189
00:52:22,809 --> 00:52:25,645
sex workers
in our institutions.

1190
00:52:26,747 --> 00:52:27,812
Let's begin.

1191
00:52:29,387 --> 00:52:32,751
I want you to take
a nice deep breath.

1192
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:40,594
These are
some of my favorite.

1193
00:52:40,629 --> 00:52:42,299
These subliminal style videos.

1194
00:52:42,334 --> 00:52:44,697
Um, they sell
really well and, uh,

1195
00:52:44,732 --> 00:52:46,831
they're a lot of work to make,

1196
00:52:46,866 --> 00:52:48,701
but they're, like,

1197
00:52:48,736 --> 00:52:50,604
really trippy to watch.

1198
00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:52,804
When it comes to
what we can and cannot say

1199
00:52:52,839 --> 00:52:55,576
when we upload clips, um,
what we can and cannot use

1200
00:52:55,611 --> 00:52:57,611
in titles
and in descriptions,

1201
00:52:57,646 --> 00:52:59,646
um, it has more to do
with the banks

1202
00:52:59,681 --> 00:53:02,781
and the credit card companies
than it has to do with, um,

1203
00:53:02,816 --> 00:53:06,587
how we believe
the content actually is.

1204
00:53:06,622 --> 00:53:10,019
The best ways
you can serve me

1205
00:53:10,054 --> 00:53:13,726
is with your
financial worship.

1206
00:53:13,761 --> 00:53:15,761
You're putting them
into a mind state,

1207
00:53:15,796 --> 00:53:17,631
um, where they don't have
control over their bodies,

1208
00:53:17,666 --> 00:53:19,501
and then
you can make them--

1209
00:53:19,536 --> 00:53:21,635
make them do things
that they don't wanna do.

1210
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:23,604
Which isn't real, which isn't
a true thing about hypnosis.

1211
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:25,474
It is a perception
about hypnosis

1212
00:53:25,509 --> 00:53:26,805
that banks
and credit card companies

1213
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,411
don't wanna be
associated with.

1214
00:53:28,446 --> 00:53:29,907
You want to see me--

1215
00:53:31,482 --> 00:53:34,516
Have everything
my heart desires?

1216
00:53:35,252 --> 00:53:36,914
They work
in a certain way.

1217
00:53:36,949 --> 00:53:39,521
I know because, uh,
I fall asleep sometimes

1218
00:53:39,556 --> 00:53:41,391
while, um,
editing them.

1219
00:53:41,426 --> 00:53:43,690
I can't edit
hypno videos after lunch.

1220
00:53:43,725 --> 00:53:49,696
Good boy. Good boy.

1221
00:53:49,731 --> 00:53:52,831
There's sort of that myth
of the ''captain save a hoe'--

1222
00:53:52,866 --> 00:53:55,801
-With sex workers that--

1223
00:53:55,836 --> 00:53:59,343
that, "I-- I will
save them from themselves.

1224
00:53:59,378 --> 00:54:02,544
These girls, they don't know
what they're getting into.

1225
00:54:02,579 --> 00:54:04,546
They're being
taken advantage of."

1226
00:54:04,581 --> 00:54:06,042
Are-- are there
women and girls

1227
00:54:06,077 --> 00:54:07,582
being taken advantage of
in the world?

1228
00:54:07,617 --> 00:54:09,683
Absolutely.

1229
00:54:09,718 --> 00:54:12,950
Some of it
is through sex work.

1230
00:54:12,985 --> 00:54:15,689
Uh, most of it
is through our everyday

1231
00:54:15,724 --> 00:54:17,592
interactions and institutions.

1232
00:54:20,498 --> 00:54:24,434
<i> Today we bring,</i>
<i>Mr. Speaker, HR 1865</i>

1233
00:54:24,469 --> 00:54:25,897
<i>It allows states and victims</i>

1234
00:54:25,932 --> 00:54:28,702
<i>to Fight</i>
<i>Online Sex Trafficking Act</i>

1235
00:54:28,737 --> 00:54:31,969
<i>or FOSTA to the floor,</i>
<i>finally.</i>

1236
00:54:32,004 --> 00:54:34,939
<i> For too long,</i>
<i>bad actor websites</i>

1237
00:54:34,974 --> 00:54:38,712
<i>have operated with impunity</i>
<i>in selling young women</i>

1238
00:54:38,747 --> 00:54:41,913
<i>and girls forced into</i>
<i>the commercial sale of sex.</i>

1239
00:54:41,948 --> 00:54:44,619
<i>They have misused</i>
<i>the Communications Decency Act</i>

1240
00:54:44,654 --> 00:54:47,116
<i>as a shield to avoid</i>
<i>criminal liability</i>

1241
00:54:47,151 --> 00:54:48,788
<i>in state courts.</i>

1242
00:54:48,823 --> 00:54:50,988
The intention
of FOSTA and SESTA

1243
00:54:51,023 --> 00:54:53,529
was to limit the avenues

1244
00:54:53,564 --> 00:54:55,465
in which people could use
the internet

1245
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:56,796
for sex trafficking,

1246
00:54:56,831 --> 00:54:58,831
but what actually happened

1247
00:54:58,866 --> 00:55:01,636
was that
it made websites liable

1248
00:55:01,671 --> 00:55:04,375
for the content
that independent people

1249
00:55:04,410 --> 00:55:06,377
put onto those websites.

1250
00:55:06,412 --> 00:55:09,446
All of the clip sites and all
of the social media sites

1251
00:55:09,481 --> 00:55:11,976
were immediately
very, very frightened.

1252
00:55:12,011 --> 00:55:13,516
Alex lost her

1253
00:55:13,551 --> 00:55:16,420
60,000 follower
Instagram account

1254
00:55:16,455 --> 00:55:17,718
pretty much immediately.

1255
00:55:17,753 --> 00:55:19,687
So on its face
SESTA and FOSTA

1256
00:55:19,722 --> 00:55:21,524
seemed like
a very good idea,

1257
00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,120
but as with most things
that affect sex workers

1258
00:55:24,155 --> 00:55:26,496
it's often
rolled up in something

1259
00:55:26,531 --> 00:55:28,663
that everyone universally
thinks is terrible,

1260
00:55:28,698 --> 00:55:30,962
such as sex trafficking
or child pornography.

1261
00:55:30,997 --> 00:55:33,635
And what it ever fails
to address is that

1262
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:37,672
people who-- who do trade
any type of sexual services,

1263
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:40,807
legally or illegally,
are-- are marginalized in it.

1264
00:55:40,842 --> 00:55:44,448
The biggest thing was
that many-- many sex workers

1265
00:55:44,483 --> 00:55:48,177
who had-- had transitioned
to online or, um,

1266
00:55:48,212 --> 00:55:51,081
indoor locations for--
for sex work,

1267
00:55:51,116 --> 00:55:53,017
now were forced outdoors.

1268
00:55:53,052 --> 00:55:55,184
They're now
forced in the street.

1269
00:55:55,219 --> 00:55:57,857
<i> Prosecutors tell</i>
<i>me that they would oftentimes</i>

1270
00:55:57,892 --> 00:55:59,991
<i>prefer to use</i>
<i>prostitution laws</i>

1271
00:56:00,026 --> 00:56:01,861
<i>instead of</i>
<i>sex trafficking laws,</i>

1272
00:56:01,896 --> 00:56:03,797
<i>when charging</i>
<i>these websites.</i>

1273
00:56:03,832 --> 00:56:06,470
<i>FOSTA gives prosecutors</i>

1274
00:56:06,505 --> 00:56:09,165
<i>the freedom to use both.</i>

1275
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,608
So one of the pages or websites
that was shut down

1276
00:56:12,643 --> 00:56:14,841
because of SESTA and FOSTA
was Backpage,

1277
00:56:14,876 --> 00:56:18,548
which is an advertising site
and a blacklisting site.

1278
00:56:18,583 --> 00:56:21,177
That is also where,
um, adult workers

1279
00:56:21,212 --> 00:56:22,981
write reviews of clients.

1280
00:56:23,016 --> 00:56:24,950
You know,
people that have been abusive

1281
00:56:24,985 --> 00:56:28,118
or have harassed them
or blackmailed them, so that,

1282
00:56:28,153 --> 00:56:30,890
you know, no other sex workers
have to work with them.

1283
00:56:30,925 --> 00:56:33,497
And now
all this information is lost.

1284
00:56:33,532 --> 00:56:37,765
A lot of escorts
and, you know, doms,

1285
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,162
or people
that are-- you know,

1286
00:56:39,197 --> 00:56:41,065
do that kind of exchange
on that site,

1287
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:42,968
they're going out
with new clients

1288
00:56:43,003 --> 00:56:44,706
that they've
never met before

1289
00:56:44,741 --> 00:56:46,774
who may have had
a bad review

1290
00:56:46,809 --> 00:56:48,875
and now they're
totally in danger.

1291
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:52,241
FOSTA combined with
the SESTA Walter's amendment

1292
00:56:52,276 --> 00:56:55,915
that adds back
in victim-centered provisions

1293
00:56:55,950 --> 00:56:57,851
from my original language,

1294
00:56:57,886 --> 00:57:01,822
will finally create these
serious legal consequences.

1295
00:57:01,857 --> 00:57:04,792
That's kind of the--
one of the foundations

1296
00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:05,892
of working
in this industry.

1297
00:57:05,927 --> 00:57:07,564
Things will change,

1298
00:57:07,599 --> 00:57:09,126
because the rules
change all the time

1299
00:57:09,161 --> 00:57:11,260
and you don't get a say
in whatever is happening

1300
00:57:11,295 --> 00:57:12,866
at any one point in time.

1301
00:57:12,901 --> 00:57:14,637
Sites can change
what they allow,

1302
00:57:14,672 --> 00:57:16,232
what fetishes they allow.

1303
00:57:16,267 --> 00:57:18,674
Um, other sites can change
what kind of content

1304
00:57:18,709 --> 00:57:20,203
that you can talk about
in your messages.

1305
00:57:20,238 --> 00:57:21,842
And sometimes
the laws change

1306
00:57:21,877 --> 00:57:23,745
and unfortunately,
because we are not

1307
00:57:23,780 --> 00:57:25,582
a protected class of anything,

1308
00:57:25,617 --> 00:57:27,716
we just have to pivot,
we just have to switch

1309
00:57:27,751 --> 00:57:29,179
and we just
have to keep going forward.

1310
00:57:29,214 --> 00:57:31,214
We're not easy people
to stand up for.

1311
00:57:31,616 --> 00:57:35,152
Why in the world do we have
an entire class of people

1312
00:57:35,187 --> 00:57:38,254
for whom it is very
easy to consider them

1313
00:57:38,289 --> 00:57:40,894
less than human
because of their life choices?

1314
00:57:45,197 --> 00:57:50,233
♪

1315
00:58:06,053 --> 00:58:07,250
Hi.

1316
00:58:11,157 --> 00:58:13,256
I love it. It's so cute.

1317
00:58:13,291 --> 00:58:15,896
I've had the most insane

1318
00:58:15,931 --> 00:58:17,865
past ten months
of my life ever,

1319
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:19,933
and it's all
thanks to the industry.

1320
00:58:19,968 --> 00:58:22,573
I've done more traveling this,
you know, past ten or so months

1321
00:58:22,608 --> 00:58:23,871
than I have in my entire life.

1322
00:58:23,906 --> 00:58:28,942
♪

1323
00:58:33,113 --> 00:58:35,113
Baby.
How are ya?

1324
00:58:35,148 --> 00:58:37,214
Good, how are you?

1325
00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:40,756
-How was your flight?
-Oh, it was great.

1326
00:58:40,791 --> 00:58:42,153
-Yeah.
-It was very warm.

1327
00:58:42,188 --> 00:58:44,122
I slept the whole time.

1328
00:58:44,157 --> 00:58:47,664
The main goal that we had
after Vancouver was 25 videos.

1329
00:58:47,699 --> 00:58:49,292
We're only
about halfway there.

1330
00:58:49,327 --> 00:58:51,701
Just, you know,
life got in the way.

1331
00:58:51,736 --> 00:58:55,166
My other job,
I requested to work,

1332
00:58:55,201 --> 00:58:56,673
you know,
three or four days a week

1333
00:58:56,708 --> 00:58:58,037
and they were
still continuing

1334
00:58:58,072 --> 00:58:59,874
to schedule me
for six or seven.

1335
00:58:59,909 --> 00:59:03,141
To her 30 videos sounds
like an astronomical number.

1336
00:59:03,176 --> 00:59:06,914
I shot 17 videos
last week when I was in LA.

1337
00:59:06,949 --> 00:59:09,279
Yeah, yeah,
that looks great.

1338
00:59:09,848 --> 00:59:12,216
She doesn't
yet conceptualized

1339
00:59:12,251 --> 00:59:14,658
how much content
she has to have

1340
00:59:14,693 --> 00:59:15,956
and how much content
she has to make

1341
00:59:15,991 --> 00:59:17,727
on a regular basis.

1342
00:59:17,762 --> 00:59:19,762
It's been
a little overwhelming.

1343
00:59:19,797 --> 00:59:22,963
I know I can do it, I just
haven't really applied myself.

1344
00:59:22,998 --> 00:59:25,097
You know,
I have all of the materials

1345
00:59:25,132 --> 00:59:26,835
to do what I need

1346
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:29,068
and I'm stalling myself.

1347
00:59:29,103 --> 00:59:32,643
Um, it's just a matter
of putting my own foot down

1348
00:59:32,678 --> 00:59:34,205
and really doing it.

1349
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,877
She didn't realize
how much work there was.

1350
00:59:35,912 --> 00:59:37,043
She started
to get really overwhelmed

1351
00:59:37,078 --> 00:59:38,407
and a little bit discouraged

1352
00:59:38,442 --> 00:59:40,343
and a little bit
depressed about it.

1353
00:59:40,378 --> 00:59:42,312
And, you know, that's my job
to go in and be like,

1354
00:59:42,347 --> 00:59:44,182
"Nope, you're doing great.
You're doing great.

1355
00:59:44,217 --> 00:59:45,854
Keep your head up.
You know, everyone's done this.

1356
00:59:45,889 --> 00:59:47,317
I'm not gonna let you,
you know, drown.

1357
00:59:47,352 --> 00:59:49,022
Don't worry.

1358
00:59:49,057 --> 00:59:50,386
But I'm also not gonna
give you a free pass."

1359
00:59:50,421 --> 00:59:51,827
Finally.

1360
00:59:51,862 --> 00:59:53,664
Finally,
I have a daughter

1361
00:59:53,699 --> 00:59:55,325
I can give
all of my clothes to.

1362
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,634
-Just kidding.

1363
00:59:58,066 --> 00:59:59,967
Thanks sex mom.

1364
01:00:00,002 --> 01:00:02,167
What's interesting is that
the-- the best content

1365
01:00:02,202 --> 01:00:04,741
that is made by--
by male producers,

1366
01:00:04,776 --> 01:00:06,435
at least,
specifically inside femdom,

1367
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:08,074
seems to be
made by-- by guys

1368
01:00:08,109 --> 01:00:10,274
who are inclined
to be submissive.

1369
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:12,375
And that's just really because
they get the kink, right?

1370
01:00:12,410 --> 01:00:14,212
For the same reason
that, like, we get the kink.

1371
01:00:14,247 --> 01:00:16,984
But honestly, they get the kink
better than I do

1372
01:00:17,019 --> 01:00:18,755
because obviously,

1373
01:00:18,790 --> 01:00:20,757
the person who's
watching it the most often

1374
01:00:20,792 --> 01:00:22,220
is a male submissive, right?

1375
01:00:22,622 --> 01:00:24,695
I'll show you what my site is,
what it's about

1376
01:00:24,730 --> 01:00:26,422
and how the shoots
generally work.

1377
01:00:26,957 --> 01:00:29,293
The storylines
mostly come from my head.

1378
01:00:29,328 --> 01:00:31,702
You know, as I said,
I'm a sub and-- and, uh,

1379
01:00:31,737 --> 01:00:33,198
I enjoy
these types of things,

1380
01:00:33,233 --> 01:00:36,168
so I spend a lot of time
coming up with ideas

1381
01:00:36,203 --> 01:00:38,808
and, uh, I get a lot--
a lot of great clip ideas

1382
01:00:38,843 --> 01:00:40,436
from the members
of the site.

1383
01:00:40,471 --> 01:00:42,911
And generally what I do is
I come up with a list

1384
01:00:42,946 --> 01:00:45,947
of ideas and, uh,
I'd like you to go over

1385
01:00:45,982 --> 01:00:48,818
and look at them and pick out
which ones you like.

1386
01:00:48,853 --> 01:00:50,380
''Cause obviously,
the ones you like more,

1387
01:00:50,415 --> 01:00:52,019
you're gonna be
able to speak better about.

1388
01:00:52,054 --> 01:00:53,086
You're gonna
have fun doing and--

1389
01:00:53,121 --> 01:00:54,186
Mm-hmm.

1390
01:00:56,256 --> 01:00:58,795
He had a lot of good ideas.

1391
01:00:58,830 --> 01:01:02,359
He had, uh, a huge list
of prompts to pick from.

1392
01:01:02,394 --> 01:01:04,328
We're rolling with,
"I love knowing that

1393
01:01:04,363 --> 01:01:06,264
you're sitting at home
jerking off alone in your room

1394
01:01:06,299 --> 01:01:08,200
about to eat
your own cum for me."

1395
01:01:08,235 --> 01:01:09,773
Take one.

1396
01:01:09,808 --> 01:01:11,203
So you've come to the end

1397
01:01:11,238 --> 01:01:13,370
of a very long day,
haven't you?

1398
01:01:13,405 --> 01:01:16,109
And you've come to me,
to my videos.

1399
01:01:16,144 --> 01:01:17,880
Like, he's still there
behind the camera,

1400
01:01:17,915 --> 01:01:20,245
and as I'm rattling off
and I'm talking

1401
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,082
and he's shaking his head

1402
01:01:22,117 --> 01:01:24,117
and giving me
a thumbs up and--

1403
01:01:24,152 --> 01:01:25,954
or he's, like,
laughing a little bit.

1404
01:01:25,989 --> 01:01:28,154
So that--
that really encourages me

1405
01:01:28,189 --> 01:01:29,925
when I'm in front of the camera

1406
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,829
and I'm, you know,
just making the words.

1407
01:01:32,864 --> 01:01:35,095
Let me get
that little last bit.

1408
01:01:35,130 --> 01:01:36,965
Just keep going

1409
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,835
until there's just
a little left right here...

1410
01:01:40,003 --> 01:01:41,068
and you lick that.

1411
01:01:43,303 --> 01:01:45,072
That felt good, huh?

1412
01:01:45,107 --> 01:01:47,140
A lot of girls say
they can just

1413
01:01:47,175 --> 01:01:49,241
do this by turning
the camera on themselves

1414
01:01:49,276 --> 01:01:51,144
and not having
anyone around, and--

1415
01:01:51,179 --> 01:01:53,916
so why would they need
to go shoot in front of a guy?

1416
01:01:53,951 --> 01:01:55,247
So it is hard, you know,

1417
01:01:55,282 --> 01:01:56,919
and I spent
a lot of years

1418
01:01:56,954 --> 01:01:59,856
really trying
to build my reputation

1419
01:01:59,891 --> 01:02:02,892
as someone that girls
could feel comfortable around.

1420
01:02:03,261 --> 01:02:04,828
-That was great.
-Okay.

1421
01:02:04,863 --> 01:02:06,456
Yeah,
it was really, really good.

1422
01:02:06,491 --> 01:02:07,996
By the time
I'm-- I'm done and I edit it

1423
01:02:08,031 --> 01:02:09,261
and put it all together,
it'll have nice transitions,

1424
01:02:09,296 --> 01:02:10,999
it'll flow.

1425
01:02:11,034 --> 01:02:12,528
One thing
I've always need to work on

1426
01:02:12,563 --> 01:02:14,497
when it comes to performing
or presenting

1427
01:02:14,532 --> 01:02:17,071
is talking slower.

1428
01:02:17,106 --> 01:02:18,567
Actually, your--
your pace was pretty good.

1429
01:02:18,602 --> 01:02:20,536
-Oh, okay.
-Yeah.

1430
01:02:20,571 --> 01:02:22,175
Your delivery was actually--
is actually very, very good.

1431
01:02:22,210 --> 01:02:23,374
Raevyn is
a natural pervert, right?

1432
01:02:23,409 --> 01:02:25,376
She's gonna conceptualize

1433
01:02:25,411 --> 01:02:27,576
the-- the scenes
a lot differently

1434
01:02:27,611 --> 01:02:30,546
than-- than someone
who is really playing pretend.

1435
01:02:30,581 --> 01:02:32,955
Uh, and I think for her,

1436
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:34,924
the physical activity
of doing things

1437
01:02:34,959 --> 01:02:37,553
comes a lot easier than just
talking about doing things.

1438
01:02:37,588 --> 01:02:40,963
Okay, uh,
we're rolling with, uh,

1439
01:02:40,998 --> 01:02:43,097
"Satanic blasphemy."
Take one.

1440
01:02:43,132 --> 01:02:45,935
I met Alexandra Snow,
uh, I am pretty sure

1441
01:02:45,970 --> 01:02:47,904
it's been a few years,
but I'm pretty sure

1442
01:02:47,939 --> 01:02:49,939
I reached out
and contacted her.

1443
01:02:49,974 --> 01:02:51,501
Um, she has always been

1444
01:02:51,536 --> 01:02:54,405
one of the top three
Clips4Sale girls,

1445
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,506
um, you know,
and someone I highly--

1446
01:02:56,541 --> 01:02:59,179
you know, I-- I knew
would do very well on my site.

1447
01:02:59,214 --> 01:03:02,512
Were you a good,
good little church boy?

1448
01:03:04,648 --> 01:03:07,924
Did you always do

1449
01:03:07,959 --> 01:03:09,893
all the right things?

1450
01:03:09,928 --> 01:03:14,161
All that morality didn't
make you very happy, did it?

1451
01:03:14,196 --> 01:03:15,261
No, it didn't.

1452
01:03:16,561 --> 01:03:17,835
Very good.

1453
01:03:18,737 --> 01:03:22,367
And tell me,
it does feel good, doesn't it?

1454
01:03:22,402 --> 01:03:24,171
Touch your cock for me.

1455
01:03:24,206 --> 01:03:26,305
They told you to beware
of women like me.

1456
01:03:26,907 --> 01:03:29,341
And cut it
and move here.

1457
01:03:29,376 --> 01:03:30,606
-Closer?
-Yeah, go ahead.

1458
01:03:30,641 --> 01:03:31,915
Oh, cut it first...

1459
01:03:33,545 --> 01:03:36,117
''cause I'm gonna
go get a Bible.

1460
01:03:38,924 --> 01:03:40,352
She gets the mind game.

1461
01:03:40,387 --> 01:03:42,189
You know,
she knows what to say.

1462
01:03:42,224 --> 01:03:44,224
She knows
how to play to the camera.

1463
01:03:44,259 --> 01:03:46,292
I mean, she--
she's the whole package.

1464
01:03:46,327 --> 01:03:49,262
You know, and not only that,
but as-- as being a top seller,

1465
01:03:49,297 --> 01:03:50,868
you know, uh...

1466
01:03:51,837 --> 01:03:54,036
you know, I just saw it
as a complete win for--

1467
01:03:54,071 --> 01:03:56,940
for my website to have someone
who had a big name,

1468
01:03:56,975 --> 01:04:00,306
um, and who, you know,
had lots of followers.

1469
01:04:01,075 --> 01:04:03,111
I'll read you
a little passage right here.

1470
01:04:04,983 --> 01:04:06,444
"She's a tree of life to them

1471
01:04:06,479 --> 01:04:09,150
lay hold upon her
and happy is everyone

1472
01:04:09,185 --> 01:04:10,481
that retaineth her"

1473
01:04:13,354 --> 01:04:14,419
Worshiping me?

1474
01:04:16,687 --> 01:04:19,622
This is your new salvation.

1475
01:04:25,003 --> 01:04:26,398
-Okay.
-Perfect.

1476
01:04:26,433 --> 01:04:28,070
That's gonna do
really well for me.

1477
01:04:28,105 --> 01:04:30,237
-That was fantastic.
-Yeah. Yeah. Good.

1478
01:04:30,872 --> 01:04:33,009
Watching Alex shoot

1479
01:04:33,044 --> 01:04:34,571
and, uh,
perform for him,

1480
01:04:34,606 --> 01:04:36,012
that helped me a lot.

1481
01:04:36,047 --> 01:04:37,442
She's-- she's great.

1482
01:04:37,477 --> 01:04:39,114
She's very fluid
with what she does,

1483
01:04:39,149 --> 01:04:41,050
so I-- I took
a few mental notes.

1484
01:04:41,085 --> 01:04:43,382
I always felt, like, sometimes,
when you go down the route

1485
01:04:43,417 --> 01:04:45,681
of-- of religious videos,
it collects

1486
01:04:45,716 --> 01:04:47,958
a little bit of bad karma,
you know what I mean?

1487
01:04:47,993 --> 01:04:50,257
Like, I get a lot of requests
where people want me to, like,

1488
01:04:50,292 --> 01:04:52,127
to piss on the Bible or,
you know, to like,

1489
01:04:52,162 --> 01:04:54,228
rip up pages out of,
you know, the Quran and stuff.

1490
01:04:54,263 --> 01:04:55,999
And I get it.
I understand it.

1491
01:04:56,034 --> 01:04:57,495
It's definitely not for me.

1492
01:04:57,530 --> 01:04:59,695
It's mostly just because I--

1493
01:04:59,730 --> 01:05:02,500
I really
don't want to downplay

1494
01:05:02,535 --> 01:05:05,041
anything positive that--

1495
01:05:05,076 --> 01:05:07,439
that group's culture
has ever done for it.

1496
01:05:07,474 --> 01:05:09,276
And I feel like a lot of--
a lot of religion

1497
01:05:09,311 --> 01:05:11,080
makes you feel ashamed,

1498
01:05:11,115 --> 01:05:12,477
so maybe that's
a good thing to get away from.

1499
01:05:12,512 --> 01:05:13,676
Also, I just wanna
spank people with this bible.

1500
01:05:13,711 --> 01:05:14,985
.

1501
01:05:16,615 --> 01:05:18,351
Some people
wear that amount of makeup.

1502
01:05:18,386 --> 01:05:19,484
-Do you like?
-That's what I'm saying.

1503
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:20,991
Yeah, normally.

1504
01:05:22,060 --> 01:05:26,161
Alex wanted to keep
things very cordial, and, um,

1505
01:05:26,196 --> 01:05:28,427
open with-with her divorce

1506
01:05:28,462 --> 01:05:31,529
and-- and with her ex
she was trying very hard

1507
01:05:31,564 --> 01:05:34,334
to not rock a boat,
to do things smoothly.

1508
01:05:34,369 --> 01:05:36,765
Um, still owning
a business together and still--

1509
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,635
I mean, they all shared
the same friends, you know?

1510
01:05:38,670 --> 01:05:41,077
Like, it--
it's a big life change

1511
01:05:41,112 --> 01:05:43,046
so I know that
she wanted to be as, uh,

1512
01:05:43,081 --> 01:05:46,643
mature and smooth
as possible, initially.

1513
01:05:48,317 --> 01:05:51,351
So, you know, I-- I--
I have been really careful

1514
01:05:51,386 --> 01:05:53,056
up until this point

1515
01:05:53,091 --> 01:05:55,685
about not wanting
to badmouth Joseph.

1516
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,194
Mostly because it's really easy
to look like a vengeful ex

1517
01:05:59,229 --> 01:06:02,263
and there's kind of no way
for me to be able to describe

1518
01:06:02,298 --> 01:06:04,496
so much of the things
that have happened,

1519
01:06:04,531 --> 01:06:06,168
that I let happen and,
you know,

1520
01:06:06,203 --> 01:06:07,499
I participated in
and all that stuff.

1521
01:06:34,165 --> 01:06:36,066
He wouldn't even let me
meet the new staff,

1522
01:06:36,101 --> 01:06:37,727
let alone train them.

1523
01:06:37,762 --> 01:06:39,465
I'm not gonna have my name
attached to any of that.

1524
01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:41,632
Like, I've worked--
worked too hard,

1525
01:06:41,667 --> 01:06:44,404
uh, to build--

1526
01:06:44,439 --> 01:06:46,373
to build the--
the ethical foundation

1527
01:06:46,408 --> 01:06:48,672
that the whole place
has been run on, right?

1528
01:06:48,707 --> 01:06:51,312
When Alex was gone, um,

1529
01:06:51,347 --> 01:06:53,809
where we were
encouraged to take

1530
01:06:53,844 --> 01:06:56,251
sessions that we
wouldn't normally take,

1531
01:06:56,286 --> 01:06:58,286
um, indulge in fetishes

1532
01:06:58,321 --> 01:07:01,619
that were
not necessarily our bag, um,

1533
01:07:01,654 --> 01:07:03,324
film custom videos

1534
01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:04,688
that weren't
necessarily something

1535
01:07:04,723 --> 01:07:06,525
that we would normally do.

1536
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,100
And I think a lot of that
had financial reasons.

1537
01:07:10,135 --> 01:07:12,663
You know,
we-- we were encouraged

1538
01:07:12,698 --> 01:07:14,302
to not ever say no.

1539
01:07:15,140 --> 01:07:16,700
I'll put it that way.

1540
01:07:16,735 --> 01:07:19,373
The entire arrangement
that we had was that,

1541
01:07:19,408 --> 01:07:20,869
you know, I-- I was--

1542
01:07:20,904 --> 01:07:22,838
I was going to help
transition the business,

1543
01:07:22,873 --> 01:07:24,642
the-- the one portion
of the business over to him

1544
01:07:24,677 --> 01:07:26,776
and then,
you know, go into my--

1545
01:07:26,811 --> 01:07:28,712
into my business, um,

1546
01:07:28,747 --> 01:07:30,384
and still stay involved,

1547
01:07:30,419 --> 01:07:31,550
you know,
with the dungeon and stuff.

1548
01:07:31,585 --> 01:07:33,090
And-- and he just...

1549
01:07:35,622 --> 01:07:38,293
Things with Joseph now
are quite--

1550
01:07:38,328 --> 01:07:40,328
quite odd.

1551
01:07:40,363 --> 01:07:43,793
Um, Joseph on the surface
will tell Alex one thing,

1552
01:07:43,828 --> 01:07:46,664
but then his actions will say
a different thing.

1553
01:07:46,699 --> 01:07:48,567
Joseph on the surface
will say,

1554
01:07:48,602 --> 01:07:50,602
you know, "Hey, I'm going to
sign these papers,"

1555
01:07:50,637 --> 01:07:52,670
or, "I'm going to do this, this
and this for the business."

1556
01:07:52,705 --> 01:07:55,640
And Joseph on the other hand,
will not do any of those things

1557
01:07:55,675 --> 01:07:58,742
and continue to put things off
and delay as long as he can.

1558
01:07:58,777 --> 01:08:00,744
Even when Alex asks him,
you know?

1559
01:08:11,658 --> 01:08:14,461
You know, he started
lying outright to me about--

1560
01:08:14,496 --> 01:08:16,595
lots of things that changed,
the passwords locked me on.

1561
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:18,498
Like, I-- I was
half expecting to, you know,

1562
01:08:18,533 --> 01:08:20,236
go in and find
that the dungeon door's locked

1563
01:08:20,271 --> 01:08:21,633
or something like that.

1564
01:08:21,668 --> 01:08:23,767
A lot of us were
being played off Alex

1565
01:08:23,802 --> 01:08:24,900
and, um...

1566
01:08:26,244 --> 01:08:28,607
I think that was
very carefully crafted.

1567
01:08:28,642 --> 01:08:30,939
I think that was
a calculated move,

1568
01:08:30,974 --> 01:08:34,580
and that's really where
I started to question things.

1569
01:08:50,796 --> 01:08:52,466
Um, I dunno
what's gonna happen with--

1570
01:08:52,501 --> 01:08:55,370
with-- with the dungeon
in its current form,

1571
01:08:55,405 --> 01:08:56,899
but at this point,

1572
01:08:56,934 --> 01:08:59,869
the point
that I'm currently at, um,

1573
01:08:59,904 --> 01:09:01,838
I-- I might just
fucking close it.

1574
01:09:07,582 --> 01:09:09,252
I'm usually
the one who's directing it

1575
01:09:09,287 --> 01:09:10,979
as well as being in it.

1576
01:09:11,014 --> 01:09:12,882
If I have you in a position,
I have you doing something

1577
01:09:12,917 --> 01:09:14,521
and like something doesn't
feel right or, you know,

1578
01:09:14,556 --> 01:09:16,226
like, something
that's going wrong,

1579
01:09:16,261 --> 01:09:17,953
-just speak up and tell me.
-Okay.

1580
01:09:17,988 --> 01:09:19,724
Um, in the videos, you know,
call me-- call me Goddess,

1581
01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:21,693
or call me Ms. Snow
or call me, ma'am.

1582
01:09:21,728 --> 01:09:24,432
And if we need to stop rolling
for any particular reason,

1583
01:09:24,467 --> 01:09:26,995
you can always say stop,
or just talk to me.

1584
01:09:27,030 --> 01:09:28,898
-I-- I'll manage it for you.
-Okay, cool.

1585
01:09:28,933 --> 01:09:30,372
-Sound good?
-Yeah.

1586
01:09:30,407 --> 01:09:31,703
Great.

1587
01:09:31,738 --> 01:09:34,277
I first
discovered femdom,

1588
01:09:34,312 --> 01:09:38,512
basically it was--
it was a gradual shift

1589
01:09:38,547 --> 01:09:40,514
in, like,
how I browsed porn

1590
01:09:40,549 --> 01:09:42,450
and sort of discovered
my sexuality.

1591
01:09:42,485 --> 01:09:43,946
First my mind was blown,
I was like,

1592
01:09:43,981 --> 01:09:45,915
"Wait, like,
the roles could be reversed,

1593
01:09:45,950 --> 01:09:48,654
Like the man can be dominated
in-- in these scenarios?"

1594
01:09:48,689 --> 01:09:51,261
And my first thought was like,
"That's not okay.

1595
01:09:51,296 --> 01:09:53,923
That's not
how like things should work.

1596
01:09:53,958 --> 01:09:56,827
Uh, I want to grow up
to be this, like, tough,

1597
01:09:56,862 --> 01:09:59,566
strong, like,
dude figure that just, like,

1598
01:09:59,601 --> 01:10:01,667
reams his penis
into everything."

1599
01:10:01,702 --> 01:10:03,603
Uh, uh,
thank you Goddess.

1600
01:10:03,638 --> 01:10:05,671
Delving into that
was cool.

1601
01:10:05,706 --> 01:10:08,377
And then I stumbled on
an instructional video.

1602
01:10:08,412 --> 01:10:10,478
Slow, slow...

1603
01:10:10,513 --> 01:10:12,007
It was, like,
more interactive, I guess.

1604
01:10:12,042 --> 01:10:14,009
It was more stimulating
for my brain.

1605
01:10:14,044 --> 01:10:16,484
I'd be instructed on like,
I guess, how to masturbate,

1606
01:10:16,519 --> 01:10:18,321
which I thought
was kind of cool.

1607
01:10:18,356 --> 01:10:20,389
And from there I ended up

1608
01:10:20,424 --> 01:10:23,491
on one of Domina Snow's
hypnosis videos.

1609
01:10:23,526 --> 01:10:24,723
Ten...

1610
01:10:25,825 --> 01:10:27,594
nine...

1611
01:10:27,629 --> 01:10:29,530
And it just ended on,
like, me having to eat my cum

1612
01:10:29,565 --> 01:10:31,026
and it was just like,

1613
01:10:31,061 --> 01:10:32,566
"Wait, what the fuck
is happening here?"

1614
01:10:34,097 --> 01:10:35,800
The crisis that I had
after I discovered

1615
01:10:35,835 --> 01:10:37,670
that I, like,
really enjoyed this content

1616
01:10:37,705 --> 01:10:39,474
and I would watch it
at least once or twice a week,

1617
01:10:39,509 --> 01:10:42,972
was like, how would I ever
find someone in my life

1618
01:10:43,007 --> 01:10:44,941
that would, like,
think that this is, like,

1619
01:10:44,976 --> 01:10:46,844
an okay thing
for me to do?

1620
01:10:46,879 --> 01:10:48,780
Telling friends like,
"Oh, this is what I'm into

1621
01:10:48,815 --> 01:10:51,079
and this is, uh,

1622
01:10:51,114 --> 01:10:53,081
how I express
my sexuality."

1623
01:10:53,116 --> 01:10:55,490
Uh, will I be hooded
for the scene itself?

1624
01:10:55,525 --> 01:10:56,788
-Would you like to be hooded?
-Yeah.

1625
01:10:56,823 --> 01:10:58,823
Okay. Absolutely.

1626
01:10:58,858 --> 01:11:00,858
Just like, I-- it's mostly,
like, family worries like that,

1627
01:11:00,893 --> 01:11:02,464
like, it'll, like,
make it to them somehow,

1628
01:11:02,499 --> 01:11:04,092
that it's,
like, obviously me.

1629
01:11:04,127 --> 01:11:06,501
I was doing,
like, my usual, like,

1630
01:11:06,536 --> 01:11:08,338
Saturday night after-party,

1631
01:11:08,373 --> 01:11:11,033
like, popping on my, like,

1632
01:11:11,068 --> 01:11:13,442
specific Domina Snow Twitter

1633
01:11:13,477 --> 01:11:15,037
and just
scrolling through it.

1634
01:11:15,072 --> 01:11:16,808
And I saw the blog post,
like, "Hey, if you're in LA

1635
01:11:16,843 --> 01:11:18,645
or San Diego,
we're doing shoots.

1636
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,550
Uh, applications for this
wonderful opportunity."

1637
01:11:22,585 --> 01:11:24,816
And I was like,
"Hell fucking, yeah."

1638
01:11:24,851 --> 01:11:28,721
Like I get to meet
my favorite dominatrix,

1639
01:11:28,756 --> 01:11:30,591
I get to shoot with her.

1640
01:11:30,626 --> 01:11:33,022
There was no, like,
real second thoughts at first,

1641
01:11:33,057 --> 01:11:35,497
but when she responded
to me affirmative,

1642
01:11:35,532 --> 01:11:37,796
I'm like, "Wow, this is--
this is really happening."

1643
01:11:37,831 --> 01:11:39,468
Tell me when you're ready.

1644
01:11:39,503 --> 01:11:41,932
I'm both extremely excited

1645
01:11:41,967 --> 01:11:44,374
with a tad of, like,

1646
01:11:44,409 --> 01:11:46,035
just extreme, like,

1647
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:47,575
butterflies in my stomach.

1648
01:11:47,610 --> 01:11:49,137
I'm-- I'm very like, nervous.

1649
01:11:49,172 --> 01:11:54,714
♪

1650
01:11:56,014 --> 01:11:57,882
You gonna be good for me?

1651
01:11:57,917 --> 01:11:59,081
-Yes, Goddess.
-Yeah?

1652
01:11:59,783 --> 01:12:01,655
You wanna
make sure that you'll...

1653
01:12:02,691 --> 01:12:04,526
obey every command?

1654
01:12:04,561 --> 01:12:06,055
Yes, Goddess.

1655
01:12:09,500 --> 01:12:11,159
And Domina Snow's content,

1656
01:12:11,194 --> 01:12:13,964
it really feels like
it's really been practiced

1657
01:12:13,999 --> 01:12:17,572
and there's been like research
into how the psyche works

1658
01:12:17,607 --> 01:12:20,135
and how certain triggers

1659
01:12:20,170 --> 01:12:21,972
are used in sexuality.

1660
01:12:22,007 --> 01:12:24,579
And I would say
it feels like there's intention

1661
01:12:24,614 --> 01:12:25,712
in like every shot.

1662
01:12:25,747 --> 01:12:26,779
It-- it just feels like...

1663
01:12:27,947 --> 01:12:29,716
-high quality content.

1664
01:12:29,751 --> 01:12:31,421
Good boy.
Like you kept your arms there.

1665
01:12:31,456 --> 01:12:33,720
Oh, I'm so impressed.
Scoot over here.

1666
01:12:33,755 --> 01:12:35,722
They come in
and have this,

1667
01:12:35,757 --> 01:12:37,625
kind of, like,
they put me on a pedestal

1668
01:12:37,660 --> 01:12:39,594
and I'm larger than life
and I wanna live up to that.

1669
01:12:39,629 --> 01:12:41,464
But I also wanna
live up to that in a way

1670
01:12:41,499 --> 01:12:43,158
that shows them
that I'm a real person

1671
01:12:43,193 --> 01:12:45,435
and I care about them,
not just I'm this fantasy

1672
01:12:45,470 --> 01:12:47,536
that they've,
you know, kind of concocted.

1673
01:12:47,571 --> 01:12:49,098
So do you have
any ideas for things

1674
01:12:49,133 --> 01:12:50,638
that you really like to--
like to do or try?

1675
01:12:50,673 --> 01:12:52,640
I wanna
try some CBT,

1676
01:12:52,675 --> 01:12:53,839
definitely want
to do that.

1677
01:12:54,474 --> 01:12:56,545
So CBT stands for
cock and ball torture

1678
01:12:56,580 --> 01:12:57,909
or cock and ball torment.

1679
01:12:57,944 --> 01:12:59,911
So these are
instructional videos

1680
01:12:59,946 --> 01:13:03,013
often along-- like,
masturbation instructions too,

1681
01:13:03,048 --> 01:13:04,883
where I have them
assemble things

1682
01:13:04,918 --> 01:13:06,786
from around the home and then
instruct them on how to do it.

1683
01:13:06,821 --> 01:13:08,590
Sometimes,
I'll even have like a dildo

1684
01:13:08,625 --> 01:13:09,987
that has like balls on it
and like "here's how

1685
01:13:10,022 --> 01:13:11,560
you wrap this,
and do this thing,"

1686
01:13:11,595 --> 01:13:13,089
and I kind of help them
to lead along with it.

1687
01:13:14,092 --> 01:13:15,465
What do we have in here?

1688
01:13:18,866 --> 01:13:20,767
So have you done,
like, self-bondage?

1689
01:13:20,802 --> 01:13:22,164
So, like, cock-ball-bondage?

1690
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:24,133
How do you--
how do you fare there?

1691
01:13:24,168 --> 01:13:26,135
I-- I was trying it again,
like, last night before this.

1692
01:13:26,170 --> 01:13:28,709
Stick your tongue out.
Let's see.

1693
01:13:31,010 --> 01:13:32,878
Oh yeah.

1694
01:13:32,913 --> 01:13:35,881
I've like been able to
tie the entire thing up.

1695
01:13:35,916 --> 01:13:38,213
I've done the rubber band one,
where, like,

1696
01:13:38,248 --> 01:13:40,490
you're basically, like,
your cock is just encased

1697
01:13:40,525 --> 01:13:41,590
in like rubber bands.

1698
01:13:41,625 --> 01:13:43,086
That was pretty intense.

1699
01:13:43,121 --> 01:13:44,692
I've gotten to, like,

1700
01:13:44,727 --> 01:13:46,859
maybe seven close pins
on my balls.

1701
01:13:46,894 --> 01:13:48,498
It's a pretty good number.

1702
01:13:48,533 --> 01:13:49,730
There's not
a lot of room there.

1703
01:13:50,165 --> 01:13:51,930
You say
you got to seven before?

1704
01:13:51,965 --> 01:13:53,668
Yes, Goddess.

1705
01:13:53,703 --> 01:13:54,966
Oh good,
''cause we're getting to eight.

1706
01:13:55,868 --> 01:13:58,838
-Thank you, Goddess.
-Yeah. There we go.

1707
01:13:58,873 --> 01:14:01,170
Although, um, I'm--

1708
01:14:01,205 --> 01:14:03,106
this is all gonna be
authentic and real, um,

1709
01:14:03,141 --> 01:14:05,581
because I don't have
a history of playing with you,

1710
01:14:05,616 --> 01:14:08,947
I'm gonna probably
increase the severity as we go.

1711
01:14:08,982 --> 01:14:10,278
And so it's gonna be
really important

1712
01:14:10,313 --> 01:14:12,115
that you
communicate with me.

1713
01:14:12,150 --> 01:14:13,919
It's better that you
communicate with me

1714
01:14:13,954 --> 01:14:15,822
even if you feel like
it's gonna somehow

1715
01:14:15,857 --> 01:14:17,857
screw up
the video rather than--

1716
01:14:17,892 --> 01:14:19,958
than just, like,
hold it and take it.

1717
01:14:19,993 --> 01:14:21,894
The thing that I really
don't wanna happen is like,

1718
01:14:21,929 --> 01:14:24,567
don't do the typical,
like, guy thing of, like,

1719
01:14:24,602 --> 01:14:26,569
"Oh, I'm just gonna take
whatever you have

1720
01:14:26,604 --> 01:14:27,999
and I'm gonna be stoic and--
and-- and non-responsive."

1721
01:14:28,034 --> 01:14:29,638
Like,
the more responsive you are,

1722
01:14:29,673 --> 01:14:30,936
the better
I'm able to reach you.

1723
01:14:30,971 --> 01:14:32,674
-Mm-hmm.
-There we go.

1724
01:14:36,713 --> 01:14:38,042
I'm like a cat.

1725
01:14:38,077 --> 01:14:39,813
If-- if it
doesn't make noise

1726
01:14:39,848 --> 01:14:41,309
then I'm just
not very interested in it.

1727
01:14:44,215 --> 01:14:45,819
Some of the slave content
was a little hard

1728
01:14:45,854 --> 01:14:47,821
for me to edit at first,

1729
01:14:47,856 --> 01:14:49,691
um, because I'm kind of an--
like an empathetic person,

1730
01:14:49,726 --> 01:14:52,023
so it's like, "Oh, uh, uh,"
you know?

1731
01:14:52,058 --> 01:14:53,860
But eventually,
like you kinda get over it.

1732
01:14:53,895 --> 01:14:55,862
And especially
talking to these guys

1733
01:14:55,897 --> 01:14:57,292
after they do sessions
like that and they're like,

1734
01:14:57,327 --> 01:14:59,195
"Man, that was great!

1735
01:14:59,230 --> 01:15:01,098
That was something
I totally wasn't expecting."

1736
01:15:01,133 --> 01:15:03,606
Or like, they've got
this sort of high afterwards

1737
01:15:03,641 --> 01:15:05,575
and that's what they look for
in that fetish.

1738
01:15:05,610 --> 01:15:07,742
So, I know that this is what
these guys are looking for,

1739
01:15:07,777 --> 01:15:09,678
so I don't feel bad
editing it anymore.

1740
01:15:10,879 --> 01:15:12,241
He did such a great job.

1741
01:15:12,276 --> 01:15:14,144
He-- he really
did a great job.

1742
01:15:14,179 --> 01:15:15,882
And then he was young
and he was a college student,

1743
01:15:15,917 --> 01:15:18,247
and either
they're like super gung ho

1744
01:15:18,282 --> 01:15:19,952
and like really,
really into it

1745
01:15:19,987 --> 01:15:21,591
or they're
absolutely terrified,

1746
01:15:21,626 --> 01:15:23,153
have no experience whatsoever.

1747
01:15:23,188 --> 01:15:24,825
And I was really excited
when he arrived that

1748
01:15:24,860 --> 01:15:26,189
it seemed to be the former.

1749
01:15:27,357 --> 01:15:30,193
Cut. Good job.

1750
01:15:30,228 --> 01:15:31,326
How're you feeling?

1751
01:15:32,162 --> 01:15:33,933
-How're you doing?
-All right.

1752
01:15:33,968 --> 01:15:35,198
Good.

1753
01:15:35,233 --> 01:15:36,903
Wow.
That was an experience.

1754
01:15:37,334 --> 01:15:38,905
I am so happy

1755
01:15:38,940 --> 01:15:41,237
and when
I go on with my day

1756
01:15:41,272 --> 01:15:45,076
and, uh,
I feel glowing, basically.

1757
01:15:45,111 --> 01:15:47,078
One of the many
considerations that I have,

1758
01:15:47,113 --> 01:15:48,981
like, going through my studies

1759
01:15:49,016 --> 01:15:50,917
and, like,
looking at my future careers,

1760
01:15:50,952 --> 01:15:53,282
uh, outside of, like,

1761
01:15:53,317 --> 01:15:55,889
food, housing,
a happy family,

1762
01:15:55,924 --> 01:15:58,727
is like being able
to afford to visit

1763
01:15:58,762 --> 01:16:00,091
a professional dominatrix

1764
01:16:00,126 --> 01:16:02,632
and have experiences
like these.

1765
01:16:04,328 --> 01:16:09,364
♪

1766
01:16:13,304 --> 01:16:14,369
Oh...

1767
01:16:17,044 --> 01:16:18,978
do I love...

1768
01:16:20,212 --> 01:16:21,849
being a man eater?

1769
01:16:21,884 --> 01:16:25,149
You wanna take
a big cock like this

1770
01:16:25,184 --> 01:16:27,690
because I told you to?

1771
01:16:27,725 --> 01:16:30,319
It just turns me on
so much

1772
01:16:30,354 --> 01:16:31,991
to think of you
with another guy.

1773
01:16:33,027 --> 01:16:35,192
You know,
come to think of it,

1774
01:16:35,227 --> 01:16:38,866
maybe you should
get on Grindr right now.

1775
01:16:38,901 --> 01:16:41,363
I can tell
after opening my stores

1776
01:16:41,398 --> 01:16:43,805
I was-- I was able to upload

1777
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,676
a clip every single day
for about two weeks.

1778
01:16:46,711 --> 01:16:48,843
I noticed that, you know,
if I were to upload

1779
01:16:48,878 --> 01:16:51,043
every single day,
five or six days a week,

1780
01:16:51,078 --> 01:16:52,308
I'm gonna do great.

1781
01:16:52,343 --> 01:16:54,046
I can see that
in my sales

1782
01:16:54,081 --> 01:16:56,048
and, you know, it shows me
all these graphs

1783
01:16:56,083 --> 01:16:58,820
and it helps things
make sense to me.

1784
01:17:00,450 --> 01:17:02,791
Have you ever been
to a Bikini Barista before?

1785
01:17:04,091 --> 01:17:05,156
No?

1786
01:17:07,292 --> 01:17:09,226
Well, they're one of my
favorite places

1787
01:17:09,261 --> 01:17:11,393
to go get coffee.

1788
01:17:11,428 --> 01:17:13,065
I mean,
why wouldn't you wanna

1789
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:14,803
-come get coffee from me?

1790
01:17:14,838 --> 01:17:15,969
So tell me how it's going.

1791
01:17:16,004 --> 01:17:18,334
Um, let's see.

1792
01:17:18,369 --> 01:17:21,073
I actually haven't filmed
in a couple weeks.

1793
01:17:21,108 --> 01:17:23,405
I did go to Portland
and I filmed

1794
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:25,011
-Okay.
-With somebody down there.

1795
01:17:25,046 --> 01:17:26,342
I know I'll do--
I'll do well

1796
01:17:26,377 --> 01:17:28,476
as long as
I fully dedicate myself,

1797
01:17:28,511 --> 01:17:32,051
and I can't even
dedicate myself halfway

1798
01:17:32,086 --> 01:17:35,318
when I'm spending four days
a week working coffee.

1799
01:17:35,353 --> 01:17:38,387
I'm-- I'm just a little nervous
about leaving a job.

1800
01:17:38,422 --> 01:17:41,731
Like, you know, being--
I'm going to do it.

1801
01:17:41,766 --> 01:17:43,799
I just--
it's a little scary.

1802
01:17:43,834 --> 01:17:45,097
Well, of course
it's scary, but this--

1803
01:17:45,132 --> 01:17:46,802
but you already have a job,

1804
01:17:46,837 --> 01:17:48,133
this is just
investing more time in a job

1805
01:17:48,168 --> 01:17:49,739
that you own...

1806
01:17:49,774 --> 01:17:51,807
-Yeah.
-...versus, you know,

1807
01:17:51,842 --> 01:17:53,303
a job that somebody else owns
and you're working for them.

1808
01:17:53,338 --> 01:17:55,305
If it was me, I could--
I could do both jobs...

1809
01:17:56,308 --> 01:17:58,407
but I don't know
the me at 22

1810
01:17:58,442 --> 01:18:00,013
could have done both jobs.

1811
01:18:00,048 --> 01:18:01,147
She's proud of me,
she tells me

1812
01:18:01,183 --> 01:18:03,049
she's proud of me all the time,
which helps me a lot

1813
01:18:03,084 --> 01:18:04,985
and makes me feel good

1814
01:18:05,020 --> 01:18:06,514
and I appreciate that.

1815
01:18:06,549 --> 01:18:08,186
That's pretty much
all I really need,

1816
01:18:08,221 --> 01:18:10,419
is to, you know,
keep getting encouragement

1817
01:18:10,454 --> 01:18:12,289
from the people I'm close to.

1818
01:18:12,324 --> 01:18:14,093
I did notice your--
like your staging looks better

1819
01:18:14,128 --> 01:18:16,029
and, you know,
like the stuff you shot,

1820
01:18:16,064 --> 01:18:18,064
uh, in,
a nice hotel room.

1821
01:18:18,099 --> 01:18:20,528
I still don't know if
I'm going to be strictly dom,

1822
01:18:20,563 --> 01:18:22,497
so we will--
you know, I-- I don't know--

1823
01:18:22,532 --> 01:18:24,103
I don't know
what I'm gonna look like.

1824
01:18:24,138 --> 01:18:25,808
Sure.

1825
01:18:25,843 --> 01:18:27,436
And the great thing is--
is that you can grow

1826
01:18:27,471 --> 01:18:29,174
-and evolve and change.
-Yeah.

1827
01:18:29,209 --> 01:18:30,340
-Like, no one's gonna stop you.
-Yeah.

1828
01:18:32,014 --> 01:18:35,246
I hope
to have empowered

1829
01:18:35,281 --> 01:18:38,480
an entire
generation of women...

1830
01:18:39,450 --> 01:18:42,451
who choose sex work

1831
01:18:42,486 --> 01:18:44,321
because it's
the vocation they want,

1832
01:18:44,356 --> 01:18:46,257
not because
they felt like they had

1833
01:18:46,292 --> 01:18:47,929
no other options in life.

1834
01:18:47,964 --> 01:18:49,392
That's what
I really wanna see.

1835
01:18:49,427 --> 01:18:51,295
Certainly that's
probably the reason

1836
01:18:51,330 --> 01:18:53,099
that I'm training Raevyn
the way that I am, right?

1837
01:18:53,134 --> 01:18:55,563
Like-- like I wanna see her
take on the mantle

1838
01:18:55,598 --> 01:18:57,565
and be
the next generation

1839
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,303
and then
I wanna see her

1840
01:18:59,338 --> 01:19:01,503
do what I'm doing
and train someone else.

1841
01:19:01,538 --> 01:19:03,208
Nip slip!

1842
01:19:04,277 --> 01:19:08,081
We rented
the Stimson-Green Mansion

1843
01:19:08,116 --> 01:19:09,885
and we did photo shoots.

1844
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,282
-I like that.
-Yeah, yeah.

1845
01:19:11,317 --> 01:19:13,020
We had Sarah Skinner

1846
01:19:13,055 --> 01:19:14,417
as the photographer,

1847
01:19:14,452 --> 01:19:17,156
who is
an amazingly talented artist

1848
01:19:17,191 --> 01:19:19,389
and also really hardcore.

1849
01:19:19,424 --> 01:19:20,929
She's just
really, really intense.

1850
01:19:23,065 --> 01:19:28,101
♪

1851
01:19:28,136 --> 01:19:29,938
Honestly,
she was the right person

1852
01:19:29,973 --> 01:19:31,841
to wrangle all these doms
''cause, you know,

1853
01:19:31,876 --> 01:19:33,502
she's like, "All the things
you think you know,

1854
01:19:33,537 --> 01:19:35,504
we're not doing
any of them.

1855
01:19:35,539 --> 01:19:37,209
You know, we're gonna make
really different things."

1856
01:19:37,244 --> 01:19:39,145
I think
this industry is incredible.

1857
01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:41,983
The women and men involved
that I have been exposed to

1858
01:19:42,018 --> 01:19:44,282
and-- and have actually
become friends with

1859
01:19:44,317 --> 01:19:47,351
are an incredibly diverse

1860
01:19:47,386 --> 01:19:49,320
cast of people.

1861
01:19:49,355 --> 01:19:51,894
They're all incredibly
well-spoken and intelligent.

1862
01:19:51,929 --> 01:19:53,390
Um, they're very well read.

1863
01:19:53,425 --> 01:19:54,864
It's kind of
a breath of fresh air

1864
01:19:54,899 --> 01:19:56,393
because they're all kind of

1865
01:19:56,428 --> 01:19:58,197
taking the world
at their own pace.

1866
01:19:58,232 --> 01:19:59,902
They're doing
what they want in the world.

1867
01:19:59,937 --> 01:20:01,563
They're shaping their life

1868
01:20:01,598 --> 01:20:03,565
to be exactly
what they want it to be.

1869
01:20:07,010 --> 01:20:10,275
And that's-- that's
it, girl, come on.

1870
01:20:11,410 --> 01:20:13,278
I grew up
with very bad skin

1871
01:20:13,313 --> 01:20:16,017
and very flamboyant
fashion sense.

1872
01:20:16,052 --> 01:20:18,118
So I was known
as the weirdo.

1873
01:20:18,153 --> 01:20:19,581
I didn't know
where I belonged,

1874
01:20:19,616 --> 01:20:21,352
didn't have
a lot of friends.

1875
01:20:21,387 --> 01:20:22,584
I don't feel
like you need these.

1876
01:20:26,425 --> 01:20:28,590
And then
I find out everybody loves

1877
01:20:28,625 --> 01:20:32,330
that I'm weird,
and that I open my big mouth

1878
01:20:32,365 --> 01:20:35,201
or I stand up
for people or whatever.

1879
01:20:35,236 --> 01:20:37,302
This industry
is a really good reminder that,

1880
01:20:37,337 --> 01:20:39,634
"No, we like you
''cause you're you."

1881
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:41,306
That's the best.

1882
01:20:41,341 --> 01:20:43,506
-Yeah, come on. Come on!

1883
01:20:45,015 --> 01:20:46,982
<i> Because of the way</i>

1884
01:20:47,017 --> 01:20:49,512
<i>this society</i>
<i>is organized</i>

1885
01:20:49,547 --> 01:20:51,052
<i>because</i>
<i>of the</i> .

1886
01:20:51,087 --> 01:20:52,515
Bring your head--

1887
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:54,924
I want you to look at her.
Look at her.

1888
01:20:54,959 --> 01:20:56,321
It's a labor of love,

1889
01:20:56,356 --> 01:20:58,554
being able to serve
amazing women,

1890
01:20:58,589 --> 01:21:01,326
being able to play a part
in amazing things

1891
01:21:01,361 --> 01:21:02,965
such as this event

1892
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,033
and hopefully make--
make them happy.

1893
01:21:05,068 --> 01:21:08,399
Real fucking hot and um--

1894
01:21:08,434 --> 01:21:10,665
I feel like this is, like,
a-- a Dolce and Gabbana.

1895
01:21:12,273 --> 01:21:14,471
You know,
this is about enjoying

1896
01:21:14,506 --> 01:21:16,704
what you enjoy and turning
that

1897
01:21:16,739 --> 01:21:18,508
into good work and--

1898
01:21:18,543 --> 01:21:21,511
and just making everything
nice for everybody else.

1899
01:21:21,546 --> 01:21:22,677
Yeah, good job guys.

1900
01:21:22,712 --> 01:21:24,052
-Whoo!

1901
01:21:34,724 --> 01:21:36,493
It's a group of strong

1902
01:21:36,528 --> 01:21:39,331
independent women
who are kinky

1903
01:21:39,366 --> 01:21:42,334
and very liberated
and free spirited

1904
01:21:42,369 --> 01:21:45,403
at the same time,
and it's a good mix.

1905
01:21:46,769 --> 01:21:48,472
-Thank you.
-Thanks.

1906
01:21:49,041 --> 01:21:50,474
We''re in a really unique,

1907
01:21:50,509 --> 01:21:52,608
weird industry
and I think that

1908
01:21:52,643 --> 01:21:55,347
if you don't have
friendships within it,

1909
01:21:55,382 --> 01:21:56,744
you're gonna go
fucking crazy.

1910
01:21:56,779 --> 01:21:58,218
It could be really,
really lonely.

1911
01:21:58,253 --> 01:21:59,681
The umbrellas?

1912
01:21:59,716 --> 01:22:01,320
I was going to get food.

1913
01:22:01,355 --> 01:22:03,586
I'm very thankful
that I do have

1914
01:22:03,621 --> 01:22:06,094
these women that even if
we don't see each other,

1915
01:22:06,129 --> 01:22:08,063
but once a year,
I can still message them.

1916
01:22:08,098 --> 01:22:10,494
Or when I see them, it feels
like no time has passed

1917
01:22:10,529 --> 01:22:13,563
and we have this connection
and they advise me on things.

1918
01:22:13,598 --> 01:22:16,335
And I value
their opinion on everything

1919
01:22:16,370 --> 01:22:18,238
''cause they
understand completely what--

1920
01:22:18,273 --> 01:22:19,569
what we're all
going through.

1921
01:22:21,875 --> 01:22:23,639
Get ready for
the internet to hate you guys.

1922
01:22:23,674 --> 01:22:27,016
.

1923
01:22:27,051 --> 01:22:28,446
I believe
when the majority of the people

1924
01:22:28,481 --> 01:22:32,252
in the industry
have passionately,

1925
01:22:32,287 --> 01:22:35,354
you know, confidently
chosen what they do,

1926
01:22:35,389 --> 01:22:37,653
then the landscape
of that industry

1927
01:22:37,688 --> 01:22:39,424
changes radically.

1928
01:22:39,459 --> 01:22:40,689
And...

1929
01:22:41,491 --> 01:22:44,132
that's what I really--
I really hope to see.

1930
01:22:44,167 --> 01:22:46,068
I don't want you guys
holding your backs.

1931
01:22:46,103 --> 01:22:47,498
You know,
at the end of the day,

1932
01:22:47,533 --> 01:22:49,566
we're people
like anyone else.

1933
01:22:49,601 --> 01:22:51,634
So, you know,
most of the women

1934
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:53,438
are really cool,
down to earth

1935
01:22:53,473 --> 01:22:55,770
and just
rad human beings.

1936
01:22:55,805 --> 01:22:57,739
I mean, that's the least
I could say about Alex.

1937
01:22:57,774 --> 01:23:00,049
Alex is fucking awesome
in-- in so many ways.

1938
01:23:03,153 --> 01:23:05,252
-No rules!

1939
01:23:05,287 --> 01:23:06,649
No-- no rules?

1940
01:23:06,684 --> 01:23:07,716
No,
that means you say it.

1941
01:23:09,357 --> 01:23:10,752
I love
the women in this community.

1942
01:23:10,787 --> 01:23:13,062
They have made me
feel so accepted

1943
01:23:13,097 --> 01:23:16,527
and so loved
just because they see in me

1944
01:23:16,562 --> 01:23:18,727
the same kind of qualities
that drive them

1945
01:23:18,762 --> 01:23:20,597
as like business women,

1946
01:23:20,632 --> 01:23:23,237
and they've really
accepted me into the group

1947
01:23:23,272 --> 01:23:25,107
and I love them a lot.

1948
01:23:25,142 --> 01:23:26,207
They talk about being goddesses
''cause they are.

1949
01:23:26,242 --> 01:23:27,109
They're powerful women.

1950
01:23:35,746 --> 01:23:37,416
I have such

1951
01:23:37,451 --> 01:23:39,451
an incredible
sense of belonging.

1952
01:23:39,486 --> 01:23:41,090
I've never
had that before.

1953
01:23:41,125 --> 01:23:42,850
You know,
I've never had a group

1954
01:23:42,885 --> 01:23:45,622
that I fit in with
and I've never had my people,

1955
01:23:45,657 --> 01:23:47,855
and-- and these are my people.

1956
01:23:47,890 --> 01:23:51,694
I have the best
support system imaginable

1957
01:23:51,729 --> 01:23:53,366
and all of--

1958
01:23:53,401 --> 01:23:55,434
all of these people
are really close.

1959
01:23:55,469 --> 01:23:57,139
You know,
it's not just, like,

1960
01:23:57,174 --> 01:23:58,734
they're friends on-- online

1961
01:23:58,769 --> 01:24:02,243
or they're friends
for-- for the photos.

1962
01:24:02,278 --> 01:24:03,607
You know,
we all have

1963
01:24:03,642 --> 01:24:05,411
really strong
close connections.

1964
01:24:07,712 --> 01:24:09,448
The only people that do lobby

1965
01:24:09,483 --> 01:24:11,714
for sex work--
sex worker rights

1966
01:24:11,749 --> 01:24:13,452
tend to be
other sex workers.

1967
01:24:13,487 --> 01:24:15,850
And it's too easy
to label us

1968
01:24:15,885 --> 01:24:17,852
as being
the undesirables of, you know,

1969
01:24:17,887 --> 01:24:20,360
of-- of society,
and therefore our voices

1970
01:24:20,395 --> 01:24:21,625
don't make a difference.

1971
01:24:31,670 --> 01:24:33,274
The thing I had wanted to do

1972
01:24:33,309 --> 01:24:35,243
for some time was
I wanted to build

1973
01:24:35,278 --> 01:24:36,805
a-- an independent
collective model--

1974
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,510
business collective model
in which that

1975
01:24:38,545 --> 01:24:41,282
all of the--
the people inside that

1976
01:24:41,317 --> 01:24:42,778
as-- as sex workers

1977
01:24:42,813 --> 01:24:45,352
were all their own
individual businesses

1978
01:24:45,387 --> 01:24:46,683
and that they got to

1979
01:24:46,718 --> 01:24:48,553
make the decisions
for themselves.

1980
01:24:48,588 --> 01:24:50,588
When Alex was, like,

1981
01:24:50,623 --> 01:24:52,260
in the final stages
of her divorce,

1982
01:24:52,295 --> 01:24:54,790
like we had--
we had summoned him

1983
01:24:54,825 --> 01:24:56,660
to court many times.

1984
01:24:56,695 --> 01:24:59,201
He didn't show up
and so finally the judge was

1985
01:24:59,236 --> 01:25:01,698
just like, "All right,
Alex, you're divorced."

1986
01:25:01,733 --> 01:25:03,700
"You get all the stuff
that you want in the divorce

1987
01:25:03,735 --> 01:25:05,141
because Joseph
never showed up."

1988
01:25:06,540 --> 01:25:08,804
In the process
of leaving Wicked Eden

1989
01:25:08,839 --> 01:25:11,840
in the place
that it was before with Joseph,

1990
01:25:11,875 --> 01:25:13,743
we started
The Wicked Collective together.

1991
01:25:13,778 --> 01:25:16,383
Um, both her and I
are equal share owners

1992
01:25:16,418 --> 01:25:18,187
in the Wicked Collective

1993
01:25:18,222 --> 01:25:20,321
and I am the director
of operations there.

1994
01:25:20,356 --> 01:25:22,554
I think the collective
will continue to grow.

1995
01:25:22,589 --> 01:25:25,755
Uh, I'm excited
to teach other girls

1996
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:27,592
the things that I know
and the things

1997
01:25:27,627 --> 01:25:29,924
that I've learned
through my experiences.

1998
01:25:29,959 --> 01:25:33,631
We just had to dismiss
one of our sad little slaves.

1999
01:25:33,666 --> 01:25:35,534
-Mm. Yeah.
-Didn't we?

2000
01:25:35,569 --> 01:25:36,931
I'm excited

2001
01:25:36,966 --> 01:25:40,308
to grow my business
in production.

2002
01:25:40,343 --> 01:25:43,278
I hope the people
watching this documentary

2003
01:25:43,313 --> 01:25:44,774
are inspired
to go home

2004
01:25:44,809 --> 01:25:47,678
and do some
kinky dirty shit.

2005
01:25:47,713 --> 01:25:49,713
It will be
a different dungeon,

2006
01:25:49,748 --> 01:25:52,452
uh, when we buy
our new place,

2007
01:25:52,487 --> 01:25:54,619
um, but the collective will--

2008
01:25:54,654 --> 01:25:56,951
will persist
no matter what

2009
01:25:56,986 --> 01:25:58,689
Wicked Eden ever looks like.

2010
01:25:58,724 --> 01:26:00,658
Wicked Collective
will always be the group

2011
01:26:00,693 --> 01:26:02,957
that, um, is--
it is formed around it

2012
01:26:02,992 --> 01:26:05,399
and empowers
and upholds each other.

2013
01:26:07,271 --> 01:26:08,765
Since starting the documentary,
one of the things

2014
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,471
that I promised myself
was that I would stop--

2015
01:26:11,506 --> 01:26:14,672
I would stop lying to people,
um, that I didn't know well.

2016
01:26:14,707 --> 01:26:16,773
You know, like when--
you know, like you--

2017
01:26:16,808 --> 01:26:18,478
there's lots of people that
you're gonna be faced with,

2018
01:26:18,513 --> 01:26:20,348
that, um, that, like,
you know, ask you,

2019
01:26:20,383 --> 01:26:22,009
"Well what do you do
for a living?" sort of thing.

2020
01:26:22,044 --> 01:26:25,320
And I always gave them a very,
like, acceptable answer.

2021
01:26:25,355 --> 01:26:26,981
You know, "I work
in a production company,"

2022
01:26:27,016 --> 01:26:29,324
or you know, like, whatever,
"I do life coaching,

2023
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:30,754
you know,
I breed cats."

2024
01:26:30,789 --> 01:26:32,756
Um, and I just stopped.

2025
01:26:32,791 --> 01:26:35,462
I like just stopped trying
to protect people's feelings

2026
01:26:35,497 --> 01:26:36,793
and just be authentic.

2027
01:26:36,828 --> 01:26:38,729
And I thought,
I'm gonna deal--

2028
01:26:38,764 --> 01:26:40,599
I'm gonna be dealing
with a lot of shit this year.

2029
01:26:40,634 --> 01:26:41,996
I'm just gonna deal
with a lot of people's--

2030
01:26:42,031 --> 01:26:43,668
a lot of stigma
and their stereotypes

2031
01:26:43,703 --> 01:26:45,406
and everything else,
but you know what?

2032
01:26:45,441 --> 01:26:46,704
I've really encountered
very little of it.

2033
01:26:46,739 --> 01:26:48,904
I've encountered
so much support

2034
01:26:48,939 --> 01:26:50,675
and acceptance
and people being, like,

2035
01:26:50,710 --> 01:26:52,842
"That's amazing.
I have some questions for you."

2036
01:26:52,877 --> 01:26:54,448
And, like,
and then calling me

2037
01:26:54,483 --> 01:26:55,812
and asking me
things about their lives

2038
01:26:55,847 --> 01:26:56,846
and, like,
their kinks, and like,

2039
01:26:56,881 --> 01:26:58,518
it just felt so good

2040
01:26:58,553 --> 01:27:01,356
to just be able
to just be you, you know?

2041
01:27:01,391 --> 01:27:02,720
So I'm--
I'm glad you're doing it.

2042
01:27:02,755 --> 01:27:04,359
Yeah.

2043
01:27:04,994 --> 01:27:07,989
Doing this basically means
that I'm gonna have to be

2044
01:27:08,024 --> 01:27:10,464
somewhat public
about how I feel about this.

2045
01:27:10,499 --> 01:27:12,862
Like my best friends
and roommates need to know

2046
01:27:12,897 --> 01:27:15,337
about this at the very least,
I can't just

2047
01:27:15,372 --> 01:27:17,405
keep up this facade
about like who I am

2048
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:20,309
and how I enjoy
my sexuality and pleasure.

2049
01:27:20,978 --> 01:27:22,707
Look at your face.

2050
01:27:22,742 --> 01:27:24,038
It makes such a good
foot stool, doesn't it?

2051
01:27:24,073 --> 01:27:25,908
Wearing a mask
is uncomfortable

2052
01:27:25,943 --> 01:27:28,911
and it was probably,
um, obscuring his ability

2053
01:27:28,946 --> 01:27:30,847
to like, to see me
and, like, interact with me

2054
01:27:30,882 --> 01:27:33,520
in a way that felt--
like, felt more-- more natural.

2055
01:27:33,555 --> 01:27:35,819
He just said, "I'd preferred
to-- to do it with it off,"

2056
01:27:35,854 --> 01:27:38,327
and, uh, and I said--

2057
01:27:38,362 --> 01:27:39,955
I said, "Is it just
uncomfortable?" and he goes,

2058
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:41,462
"I just feel like
I don't need it."

2059
01:27:42,993 --> 01:27:45,466
And we had also just
kind of had a conversation

2060
01:27:45,501 --> 01:27:47,567
about the fact that,
you know, um,

2061
01:27:47,602 --> 01:27:49,063
I was kinda
coming out with my identity

2062
01:27:49,098 --> 01:27:51,032
as part of--
as part of the documentary,

2063
01:27:51,067 --> 01:27:53,001
and I feel like that may have
inspired him a little bit

2064
01:27:53,036 --> 01:27:55,102
to feel like, "Hey,
if you're doing it, I can too.

2065
01:27:55,137 --> 01:27:56,972
I can-- You know,
if your face is on this thing,

2066
01:27:57,007 --> 01:27:58,545
I can do it as well."

2067
01:27:58,580 --> 01:27:59,909
I wish
our society at large

2068
01:27:59,944 --> 01:28:01,350
was more comfortable
being honest

2069
01:28:01,385 --> 01:28:02,615
about their
sexual desires.

2070
01:28:02,650 --> 01:28:04,782
America's porn watching habits

2071
01:28:04,817 --> 01:28:06,652
or their search history
is it tells

2072
01:28:06,687 --> 01:28:08,621
a totally different
story from what we would show

2073
01:28:08,656 --> 01:28:10,920
to our friends
or show to our partners.

2074
01:28:10,955 --> 01:28:12,394
.

2075
01:28:12,429 --> 01:28:13,956
Thank you, Goddess.

2076
01:28:16,059 --> 01:28:21,095
♪

2077
01:28:21,530 --> 01:28:23,504
I really think
if we''re gonna move

2078
01:28:23,539 --> 01:28:25,704
America forward
to be more sex positive,

2079
01:28:25,739 --> 01:28:27,607
then what
we need to do is, one,

2080
01:28:27,642 --> 01:28:30,104
integrate this
into our education system.

2081
01:28:30,139 --> 01:28:33,910
We need
a comprehensive sex ED system

2082
01:28:33,945 --> 01:28:36,682
that goes
K-12 and beyond

2083
01:28:36,717 --> 01:28:39,784
and really talks
about just consent

2084
01:28:39,819 --> 01:28:42,556
and communication
and, you know,

2085
01:28:42,591 --> 01:28:44,624
ownership of our own bodies
and our own selves

2086
01:28:44,659 --> 01:28:47,858
and gives us agency
to say yes or no.

2087
01:28:47,893 --> 01:28:49,959
-Happy Pride!
-Happy Pride!

2088
01:28:49,994 --> 01:28:52,533
-Mwah!

2089
01:28:52,568 --> 01:28:54,161
I want people who are

2090
01:28:54,196 --> 01:28:55,635
thinking about
getting into sex work

2091
01:28:55,670 --> 01:28:57,406
or early into sex work,

2092
01:28:57,441 --> 01:28:59,133
to know that there are
other people out here

2093
01:28:59,168 --> 01:29:01,641
doing this thing
and in groups.

2094
01:29:01,676 --> 01:29:03,478
You don't
have to be alone.

2095
01:29:03,513 --> 01:29:05,414
Uh, you don't have to
do it all on your own.

2096
01:29:05,449 --> 01:29:08,010
And uh, there--
there's a safe way to do it.

2097
01:29:08,045 --> 01:29:10,551
There's a safe way to do
sex work and-- and it's okay.

2098
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,522
I think this country
sees the women in the industry

2099
01:29:14,557 --> 01:29:17,118
as deviants and degenerates,
when they're real people

2100
01:29:17,153 --> 01:29:18,658
doing real jobs.

2101
01:29:18,693 --> 01:29:21,023
And sex workers
are real workers.

2102
01:29:21,058 --> 01:29:22,596
Sex work is real work

2103
01:29:22,631 --> 01:29:24,664
and sex work
should be empowered.

2104
01:29:24,699 --> 01:29:28,437
They shouldn't be
persecuted for what they do.

2105
01:29:28,472 --> 01:29:30,703
And I feel like very soon

2106
01:29:30,738 --> 01:29:33,706
there may be a time

2107
01:29:33,741 --> 01:29:36,610
where the world looks
at sex workers and goes,

2108
01:29:36,645 --> 01:29:38,073
"You know, hey, maybe--

2109
01:29:38,108 --> 01:29:39,481
maybe we've been
wrong this whole time."

2110
01:29:41,177 --> 01:29:42,550
I make a great living

2111
01:29:42,585 --> 01:29:44,145
off of this character,

2112
01:29:44,180 --> 01:29:46,818
this persona who embodies
a lot of my own traits,

2113
01:29:46,853 --> 01:29:48,523
but also,
you know, has to,

2114
01:29:48,558 --> 01:29:50,085
like, make them
larger than life.

2115
01:29:51,627 --> 01:29:52,956
I feel like
the big thing is--

2116
01:29:52,991 --> 01:29:54,221
is that your clients,
your fans,

2117
01:29:54,256 --> 01:29:56,795
they are so--
so convinced

2118
01:29:56,830 --> 01:29:58,896
that your life and your--
and who you are

2119
01:29:58,931 --> 01:30:01,063
needs to be exactly
this fantasy archetype.

2120
01:30:01,098 --> 01:30:03,868
That you are not a real person,
you are a comic book character.

2121
01:30:03,903 --> 01:30:05,705
I love people
who like think that I-- I--

2122
01:30:05,740 --> 01:30:07,476
I might wear something
like this around my house.

2123
01:30:07,511 --> 01:30:09,137
I had to bring this,

2124
01:30:09,172 --> 01:30:11,238
I had to bring
all this stuff from my studio,

2125
01:30:11,273 --> 01:30:12,877
bring it here, and this
doesn't even live here.

2126
01:30:12,912 --> 01:30:14,208
None of this stuff
lives here.

2127
01:30:14,243 --> 01:30:15,616
I-- I don't want it to.

2128
01:30:15,651 --> 01:30:17,244
I want my normal clothes.

2129
01:30:17,279 --> 01:30:20,016
I want my-- my normal life
with sweaters and shit

2130
01:30:20,051 --> 01:30:21,457
to live here.

2131
01:30:23,021 --> 01:30:24,856
See this? This?

2132
01:30:25,661 --> 01:30:26,660
This is amazing.

2133
01:30:27,894 --> 01:30:29,762
This is a dress
made out of unicorns.

2134
01:30:29,797 --> 01:30:31,731
Yep, and I can't wait
to wear this in a picture

2135
01:30:31,766 --> 01:30:33,194
and someone--
and someone say,

2136
01:30:33,229 --> 01:30:34,932
"Oh, but Goddess,
I miss you were in--

2137
01:30:34,967 --> 01:30:36,033
you were wearing latex
and leather and stuff."

2138
01:30:36,068 --> 01:30:37,968
And I'll be like, "Bitch,
I'm in my unicorn dress.

2139
01:30:38,003 --> 01:30:39,233
I look amazing."

2140
01:30:39,635 --> 01:30:42,577
Alex is going to be
coming out with her name

2141
01:30:42,612 --> 01:30:45,107
on the documentary
and that's going to be

2142
01:30:45,142 --> 01:30:47,076
a step
in normalizing sex work,

2143
01:30:47,111 --> 01:30:49,815
so people don't think
that they have to use

2144
01:30:49,850 --> 01:30:53,049
stage names and they can
use their real name

2145
01:30:53,084 --> 01:30:55,216
because it is a job
and this is something

2146
01:30:55,251 --> 01:30:57,218
that a lot
of people could do.

2147
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:00,155
Who makes things legitimate?

2148
01:31:00,190 --> 01:31:02,256
It's not some magical,
like, external force,

2149
01:31:02,291 --> 01:31:04,731
it's the people
inside that industry.

2150
01:31:04,766 --> 01:31:06,601
Inside of that field who say,

2151
01:31:06,636 --> 01:31:08,196
"We will legitimize ourselves."

2152
01:31:08,231 --> 01:31:10,000
And the only way
to do that is to present

2153
01:31:10,035 --> 01:31:12,640
to the outside world
that you are worthy of it.

2154
01:31:14,941 --> 01:31:16,611
My name is Jamie,

2155
01:31:16,646 --> 01:31:18,074
but it's still
Goddess to you.