1 00:00:00,751 --> 00:00:02,044 DIRECTOR: Let me know when you're ready, 2 00:00:02,044 --> 00:00:02,669 and we'll bring Mariana. 3 00:00:13,597 --> 00:00:15,307 (gunshots) 4 00:00:15,307 --> 00:00:17,935 (siren) 5 00:00:20,312 --> 00:00:22,356 MAN: To make money. 6 00:00:22,356 --> 00:00:23,357 MAN: To make money, make money. 7 00:00:23,357 --> 00:00:24,149 TWEETY: Fast money. 8 00:00:33,951 --> 00:00:35,035 MARIANA VAN ZELLER: They're all Americans? 9 00:00:44,336 --> 00:00:44,962 MARIANA: Lonely? 10 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:53,929 MARIANA: So you, don't you feel bad? 11 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:04,022 MARIANA: Jamaica, Israel, 12 00:01:04,022 --> 00:01:07,943 two capitals of a multibillion‐dollar industry. 13 00:01:07,943 --> 00:01:12,030 Meet the voice on the other end of that unrecognized number 14 00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:13,699 that won't stop calling you. 15 00:01:13,699 --> 00:01:15,158 MAN: Hello? 16 00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:28,505 ♪ ♪ 17 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:31,425 MARK TITUS: Jamaicans, we are the best at all that we do. 18 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:33,218 MARIANA: This area is all the tourist area, right? 19 00:01:33,218 --> 00:01:34,928 MARK: Yes. 20 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,347 Last year, we had over four million visitors to the island. 21 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:40,726 Montego Bay is the best tourist destination 22 00:01:40,726 --> 00:01:42,769 you can find in the world. 23 00:01:42,769 --> 00:01:44,354 MARIANA: Are you trying to sell me on tourism? 24 00:01:44,354 --> 00:01:45,856 MARK: Oh, yes, you can come at any time. 25 00:01:45,856 --> 00:01:46,857 MARIANA: Coming here as a tourist? 26 00:01:46,857 --> 00:01:49,526 MARK: Oh, yes, come at any time. 27 00:01:49,526 --> 00:01:51,194 MARIANA: Jamaica. 28 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:55,407 For most of the 1.5 million Americans who visit every year, 29 00:01:55,407 --> 00:01:57,701 it mostly looks like this. 30 00:01:57,701 --> 00:02:02,331 ♪ ♪ 31 00:02:02,331 --> 00:02:06,251 Tourists like these stay at all‐inclusive resorts 32 00:02:06,251 --> 00:02:09,463 like this one, 33 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:12,466 and do this, 34 00:02:12,466 --> 00:02:14,426 which leads to this. 35 00:02:14,426 --> 00:02:34,488 ♪ ♪ 36 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:38,450 Tourism is the backbone of Jamaica's legal economy, 37 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:43,455 and the resorts of Montego Bay are the crown jewel. 38 00:02:43,455 --> 00:02:46,083 But step outside the walls of your hotel, 39 00:02:46,083 --> 00:02:48,418 and it's a different story. 40 00:02:48,418 --> 00:02:51,046 MARK: Montego Bay is built in a sort of strange way 41 00:02:51,046 --> 00:02:53,715 where you have a mix of the very rich 42 00:02:53,715 --> 00:02:57,427 bordering communities with extreme poverty. 43 00:02:57,427 --> 00:03:00,889 MARIANA: Mark Titus is a journalist and former cop. 44 00:03:00,889 --> 00:03:03,058 He knows the areas of Montego Bay 45 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:05,686 that don't make it into the tourist brochures. 46 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:06,978 MAN: Welcome to Jamaica. 47 00:03:06,978 --> 00:03:08,605 (siren) 48 00:03:08,605 --> 00:03:10,232 NEWSCASTER: Day three of the state of emergency 49 00:03:10,232 --> 00:03:11,316 in St. James... 50 00:03:11,316 --> 00:03:13,402 MARIANA: Two weeks before I arrived, 51 00:03:13,402 --> 00:03:15,487 the governor here declared a state of emergency. 52 00:03:21,993 --> 00:03:23,995 MARIANA: The area surrounding Montego Bay, 53 00:03:23,995 --> 00:03:25,455 the tourist paradise, 54 00:03:25,455 --> 00:03:27,416 now has one of the highest per capita 55 00:03:27,416 --> 00:03:28,417 murder rates in the world. 56 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:34,256 NEWSCASTER: With an uptick in crime in St. James... 57 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:36,007 MARIANA: But what's causing much of this violence 58 00:03:36,007 --> 00:03:37,968 isn't drugs or politics. 59 00:03:37,968 --> 00:03:39,636 It's a new hustle. 60 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:40,429 What are the gangs fighting for? 61 00:03:44,933 --> 00:03:46,685 (siren) 62 00:03:46,685 --> 00:03:48,395 MARIANA: Lottery scams. 63 00:03:48,395 --> 00:03:51,022 You're probably familiar with some version. 64 00:03:51,022 --> 00:03:53,191 You get a call saying you won a lottery 65 00:03:53,191 --> 00:03:54,901 that you don't even remember entering. 66 00:03:54,901 --> 00:03:59,197 MAN: You have won yourself $7.5 million 67 00:03:59,197 --> 00:04:03,243 and a 2019 Mercedes‐Benz S‐Class. 68 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:07,330 MAN: Uh, that's pretty exciting. (laughs) 69 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:08,540 MARIANA: All you need to do to collect 70 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:10,333 whatever they're promising‐‐ 71 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:13,003 your millions, your new car, your new house‐‐ 72 00:04:13,003 --> 00:04:14,921 is to send a processing fee. 73 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:21,094 MARIANA: The prize is fake, of course, 74 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:23,305 but the fee you've been conned into paying 75 00:04:23,305 --> 00:04:28,393 generates $300 million a year for Jamaican scammers. 76 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:30,103 MAN: We are scamming, scamming, scamming, scamming. 77 00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:39,488 MARIANA: Scamming now rivals the drug trade 78 00:04:39,488 --> 00:04:41,990 as a lucrative and violent source of revenue 79 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:43,366 for Jamaican gangs. 80 00:04:43,366 --> 00:04:47,621 (sirens) 81 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:51,541 (man yelling) 82 00:04:51,541 --> 00:04:55,504 I wanted to understand what's referred to here as "the game," 83 00:04:55,504 --> 00:04:59,716 meet the players, see how it's played. 84 00:04:59,716 --> 00:05:01,176 MARK: Word of wisdom‐‐ 85 00:05:01,176 --> 00:05:03,762 enjoy Jamaica, the best of Jamaica, 86 00:05:03,762 --> 00:05:04,888 but be careful. 87 00:05:08,683 --> 00:05:12,312 MARK: That mean an informer giving information must die. 88 00:05:14,731 --> 00:05:16,608 MARIANA: Mark warned me that it would be difficult 89 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:19,277 to get people to talk about the game, 90 00:05:19,277 --> 00:05:21,363 but the rise of scamming can be measured 91 00:05:21,363 --> 00:05:24,950 in another popular aspect of Jamaican culture. 92 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:27,244 ♪ Big money poppin' huh! ♪ 93 00:05:27,244 --> 00:05:29,120 ♪ Banga dem deh yah ♪ 94 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,789 ♪ Dog, quenga dem deh yah ♪ 95 00:05:30,789 --> 00:05:34,709 In a neighborhood called Steer Town, I met with this man, 96 00:05:34,709 --> 00:05:37,254 local dancehall artist Xklusive. 97 00:05:37,254 --> 00:05:39,381 ♪ Back to the party, no stray me mind ♪ 98 00:05:39,381 --> 00:05:41,424 ♪ Some boy weh a talk, real waste a time ♪ 99 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:43,093 ♪ Nah pree dem... ♪ 100 00:05:43,093 --> 00:05:44,886 So, what's happening here today? What are you doing? 101 00:05:47,806 --> 00:05:50,392 MARIANA: He's the man behind "Big Money Poppin'," 102 00:05:50,392 --> 00:05:53,395 the latest entry in a growing musical subgenre, 103 00:05:53,395 --> 00:05:57,399 dancehall tracks that celebrate the danger, easy money, 104 00:05:57,399 --> 00:06:02,904 and fast lifestyle associated with scamming culture. 105 00:06:02,904 --> 00:06:05,240 What's the song about? What's the general theme of the song? 106 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,242 XKLUSIVE: It's about money. 107 00:06:07,242 --> 00:06:08,827 Money and what's going on. 108 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:11,538 Scamming is going on. Prostitution is going on. 109 00:06:11,538 --> 00:06:13,540 So, I sing about it because it's going on. 110 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:15,500 MARIANA: Can you sing it a little bit for me? 111 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:16,585 XKLUSIVE: Banga dem deh yah. 112 00:06:16,585 --> 00:06:18,295 ♪ Banga dem deh yah ♪ 113 00:06:18,295 --> 00:06:19,254 Scammer dem deh yah. 114 00:06:19,254 --> 00:06:20,839 ♪ Quenga dem deh yah ♪ 115 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,465 MARIANA: And "scammers them there" meaning scammers are... 116 00:06:22,465 --> 00:06:24,217 XKLUSIVE: Around, yeah, they're around. 117 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:26,261 MARIANA: Why did you decide to write a song about scamming? 118 00:06:29,639 --> 00:06:31,892 MARIANA: I'd been warned that this line of questioning 119 00:06:31,892 --> 00:06:33,435 might not go well. 120 00:06:33,435 --> 00:06:35,687 But there's a lot of scamming in it. 121 00:06:35,687 --> 00:06:37,480 I mean, the word scamming comes up a lot in the song... 122 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,065 XKLUSIVE: No. MARIANA: No? 123 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:41,735 XKLUSIVE: You know, it's a song that gets you hyped. 124 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:44,195 Big! Money! Poppin'! Huh! 125 00:06:44,195 --> 00:06:46,489 ♪ Big money poppin' anywhere me go ♪ 126 00:06:46,489 --> 00:06:48,491 MARIANA: I decide not to push it. 127 00:06:48,491 --> 00:06:50,994 It's enough to know that the man whose breakout hit 128 00:06:50,994 --> 00:06:56,333 became a scamming anthem doesn't want to talk about scamming. 129 00:06:56,333 --> 00:06:58,335 ♪ Cho man ♪ 130 00:06:58,335 --> 00:07:00,754 ♪ Di whole place done know how di ting go man ♪ 131 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:03,506 ♪ Xklusive a talk, freezer to me heart ♪ 132 00:07:03,506 --> 00:07:05,342 But that same night, 133 00:07:05,342 --> 00:07:08,386 I meet a man who says he knows someone who can help. 134 00:07:10,722 --> 00:07:15,393 (horns honking) 135 00:07:15,393 --> 00:07:18,688 Which is how I wind up in a car with a man I'll just call "V." 136 00:07:24,569 --> 00:07:26,112 MARIANA: Okay. 137 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:28,448 V knows a lot about scamming, but he's skittish as hell. 138 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:33,870 MARIANA: Okay, make absolutely sure we don't film his face 139 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:35,205 or anything that identifies him. 140 00:07:42,587 --> 00:07:43,463 MARIANA: No, no, no, no, no. 141 00:07:48,426 --> 00:07:50,387 MARIANA: As it turns out, V wants to take me 142 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:53,181 for a little history lesson of scamming in Jamaica. 143 00:07:53,181 --> 00:07:54,683 This complex all around us, 144 00:07:54,683 --> 00:07:56,810 these are all call centers for American companies? 145 00:08:00,105 --> 00:08:02,732 MARIANA: It all starts here, in call centers. 146 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:06,695 (phones ringing) 147 00:08:06,695 --> 00:08:09,489 Call centers were set up on the island to take advantage 148 00:08:09,489 --> 00:08:11,783 of the fact that Jamaicans speak English. 149 00:08:11,783 --> 00:08:13,201 ANDREW: My name is Andrew, 150 00:08:13,201 --> 00:08:15,412 and I'm calling you from the brand services. 151 00:08:15,412 --> 00:08:17,706 MARIANA: And receive lower wages. 152 00:08:17,706 --> 00:08:20,375 MAN: This is in regards to a few customers in Pasadena. 153 00:08:20,375 --> 00:08:22,293 MARIANA: But a few local entrepreneurs 154 00:08:22,293 --> 00:08:24,587 saw another opportunity. 155 00:08:24,587 --> 00:08:28,091 The lists of names and phone numbers used for telemarketing, 156 00:08:28,091 --> 00:08:30,927 political donations, market research, 157 00:08:30,927 --> 00:08:37,183 and debt collection can also be used for scamming. 158 00:08:37,183 --> 00:08:38,893 These "lead lists," as they're called, 159 00:08:38,893 --> 00:08:42,647 are the backbone of the game. 160 00:08:42,647 --> 00:08:45,066 They're valuable, and here in Jamaica, 161 00:08:45,066 --> 00:08:46,985 they're bought and sold underground. 162 00:08:46,985 --> 00:08:48,528 So, these are some of the places 163 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,864 where they're getting the contact lists and the names... 164 00:08:59,914 --> 00:09:02,167 MARIANA: After earning V's trust, 165 00:09:02,167 --> 00:09:04,085 he tells me he can introduce me to someone 166 00:09:04,085 --> 00:09:06,838 who has even more knowledge about scamming. 167 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:10,967 He leads me to an abandoned house, 168 00:09:10,967 --> 00:09:13,553 far from the beaches and tourists. 169 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:19,684 ♪ ♪ 170 00:09:19,684 --> 00:09:20,685 (knocks) 171 00:09:20,685 --> 00:09:23,688 This is how I meet Tweety. 172 00:09:23,688 --> 00:09:26,357 Hi. Can I come in? 173 00:09:26,357 --> 00:09:28,777 I'm Mariana. 174 00:09:28,777 --> 00:09:29,736 MARIANA: Hi, Tweety. Nice to meet you. 175 00:09:29,736 --> 00:09:30,820 TWEETY: Nice to meet you. 176 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:34,324 MARIANA: Juliana? Nice nails! 177 00:09:34,324 --> 00:09:37,494 I'm greeted with weed and even stronger rum. 178 00:09:40,330 --> 00:09:43,166 MARIANA: Tweety and her friend, Juliana, not their real names, 179 00:09:43,166 --> 00:09:44,959 agree to talk to me about the game. 180 00:09:47,128 --> 00:09:49,255 MARIANA: So what would happen if they found out who you were, 181 00:09:49,255 --> 00:09:50,048 that you were doing this? 182 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:08,316 MARIANA: By day, Tweety works 183 00:10:08,316 --> 00:10:09,984 at one of the many resorts on the island. 184 00:10:09,984 --> 00:10:11,694 She wouldn't tell us which one, 185 00:10:11,694 --> 00:10:13,321 but says she makes in a month 186 00:10:13,321 --> 00:10:15,657 what tourists pay for a one‐night stay. 187 00:10:26,543 --> 00:10:28,002 MARIANA: So what is it that you do on the side, then? 188 00:10:32,674 --> 00:10:35,385 MARIANA: As it turns out, the hospitality industry 189 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:37,971 is great preparation for scamming. 190 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:39,889 All day long, Tweety is interacting 191 00:10:39,889 --> 00:10:41,391 with mostly American clients. 192 00:10:45,687 --> 00:10:48,314 MARIANA: Then, after hours, in her free time, 193 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:50,441 Tweety opens up her lead list. 194 00:10:50,441 --> 00:10:53,319 Names, numbers, and addresses in the United States? America? 195 00:10:55,446 --> 00:10:56,823 MARIANA: Big money popping? 196 00:11:01,327 --> 00:11:02,829 MARIANA: No disrespect taken. 197 00:11:02,829 --> 00:11:05,331 Tweety doesn't want to show me her lead lists. 198 00:11:05,331 --> 00:11:07,876 They're closely guarded here in Jamaica. 199 00:11:07,876 --> 00:11:10,295 But after a little more rum and smoke, 200 00:11:10,295 --> 00:11:14,257 she and her friend Juliana loosen up and show me her rap. 201 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:37,322 MARIANA: You're really good with the accent. 202 00:11:37,322 --> 00:11:39,115 (laughs) 203 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:43,912 You're probably thinking, how does anyone fall for this? 204 00:11:43,912 --> 00:11:46,080 But there's a definite profile of a victim 205 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:47,373 that Tweety has identified. 206 00:12:00,345 --> 00:12:01,804 MARIANA: Are they all older people? 207 00:12:18,988 --> 00:12:20,240 MARIANA: To send you the money? 208 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,093 (chuckles) 209 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:42,971 MARIANA: Brash, unrepentant, cold‐‐ 210 00:12:42,971 --> 00:12:44,430 that's how Tweety sounds 211 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:48,434 when talking about stealing from lonely old people. 212 00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:50,311 But her posture quickly changes 213 00:12:50,311 --> 00:12:53,773 when she tells me how she first got into scamming. 214 00:13:44,449 --> 00:13:45,408 MARIANA: With the state of emergency 215 00:13:45,408 --> 00:13:48,661 driving most scammers further underground, 216 00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:52,582 I was grateful for the chance to meet Tweety. 217 00:13:52,582 --> 00:13:55,543 But the crazy thing about my job is that one minute, 218 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:58,546 you find yourself trying to understand a scammer, 219 00:13:58,546 --> 00:14:00,548 and the next, you're with the people charged 220 00:14:00,548 --> 00:14:02,258 with hunting them down. 221 00:14:02,258 --> 00:14:03,301 CHIEF: Alright, everybody here? 222 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:08,681 CHIEF: We'll be searching and seizing 223 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:10,516 all electronic devices‐‐ 224 00:14:10,516 --> 00:14:13,686 laptops, cell phones, magicJacks, banking documents. 225 00:14:18,524 --> 00:14:20,109 CHIEF: We should be on high alert 226 00:14:20,109 --> 00:14:23,071 just in case the target chooses to shoot his way out. 227 00:14:23,071 --> 00:14:28,493 (radio chatter) 228 00:14:28,493 --> 00:14:32,371 (siren) 229 00:14:41,506 --> 00:14:43,966 MARIANA: Lottery scams have led to violence in Jamaica 230 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:47,095 and caused untold damage abroad. 231 00:14:47,095 --> 00:14:49,138 In almost every corner of America, 232 00:14:49,138 --> 00:14:53,893 you can find news stories of those targeted. 233 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:56,395 NEWSCASTER: It's a crime that preys on the most vulnerable 234 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:59,649 and the victims often lose their entire life savings. 235 00:14:59,649 --> 00:15:01,734 MARIANA: It's no secret that these scammers 236 00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:03,653 go after older Americans. 237 00:15:03,653 --> 00:15:05,613 MAN: It was the great American dream 238 00:15:05,613 --> 00:15:09,033 to win some money where you could retire. 239 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:10,660 MARIANA: Their methods can be ruthless. 240 00:15:17,208 --> 00:15:19,127 MARIANA: The results? Tragic. 241 00:15:19,127 --> 00:15:20,419 NEWSCASTER: After being asked for yet another 242 00:15:20,419 --> 00:15:23,464 1,500 more dollars to claim his prize, 243 00:15:23,464 --> 00:15:27,844 Poland put a gun to his head and killed himself. 244 00:15:27,844 --> 00:15:30,888 MARIANA: As a result of awful stories like these, 245 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:34,809 the US government has partnered with this task force. 246 00:15:34,809 --> 00:15:36,602 So once you enter the community, 247 00:15:36,602 --> 00:15:38,104 it's already sort of a risk, right? 248 00:15:38,104 --> 00:15:39,021 CHIEF: Right. 249 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:44,735 CHIEF: So we have to get there as quickly as possible. 250 00:15:44,735 --> 00:15:46,320 (horn beeps) 251 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,157 (radio chatter) 252 00:15:49,157 --> 00:15:52,869 MARIANA: Okay, we're here, we're here. 253 00:15:52,869 --> 00:15:55,913 Don't get out of the car. 254 00:15:55,913 --> 00:15:57,540 Wow. 255 00:15:57,540 --> 00:15:59,500 He's got his gun pointed right at the door. 256 00:15:59,500 --> 00:16:01,669 (dog barking) 257 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:05,798 (howls) 258 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:07,425 (bark) 259 00:16:07,425 --> 00:16:13,598 ♪ ♪ 260 00:16:13,598 --> 00:16:16,184 (clicks tongue) 261 00:16:16,184 --> 00:16:18,352 (dog howls) 262 00:16:18,352 --> 00:16:20,438 (bark) 263 00:16:20,438 --> 00:16:21,647 (clink) 264 00:16:21,647 --> 00:16:23,149 (banging) 265 00:16:23,149 --> 00:16:24,275 They just broke into the house 266 00:16:24,275 --> 00:16:25,943 through the side door right here. 267 00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:28,654 CHIEF: Come, come, come here. 268 00:16:28,654 --> 00:16:32,617 (indistinct talking) 269 00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:33,951 Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, 270 00:16:33,951 --> 00:16:35,661 hello, hello, hello, hello. 271 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:38,789 Sir, sir, sir, sir, sir, sir, relax. 272 00:16:38,789 --> 00:16:40,708 Yeah, man, sit down, sit down, sit down. 273 00:16:45,296 --> 00:16:48,216 CHIEF: We are searching for lottery scamming paraphernalia, 274 00:16:48,216 --> 00:16:52,553 credit cards, credit card burners, those type of things. 275 00:16:52,553 --> 00:16:54,680 (radio chatter) 276 00:17:00,061 --> 00:17:00,895 MARIANA: You think this is real gold? 277 00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:01,896 CHIEF: Yeah, man. 278 00:17:01,896 --> 00:17:03,397 MARIANA: The Rolex. 279 00:17:03,397 --> 00:17:05,691 This is also a Rolex. You see this a lot? 280 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:08,486 CHIEF: For larger scammers, yes, yes. 281 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:18,079 ♪ ♪ 282 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,623 That's a brand new car. 283 00:17:20,623 --> 00:17:23,668 This is evidence that this young man tried to destroy it 284 00:17:23,668 --> 00:17:25,086 when the police tried to enter. 285 00:17:25,086 --> 00:17:25,962 MARIANA: Was it submerged underwater? 286 00:17:28,089 --> 00:17:30,132 MARIANA: Wow. So it actually has somebody's name, 287 00:17:30,132 --> 00:17:32,510 and you can see this whole conversation that they had, 288 00:17:32,510 --> 00:17:34,470 and it says, "Welcome, Miss (bleep). 289 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:38,224 Your account balance is $17,500,000. 290 00:17:38,224 --> 00:17:41,310 You are subjected to pay the authorization fee 291 00:17:41,310 --> 00:17:45,523 totaling 120,000 as soon as possible." 292 00:17:45,523 --> 00:17:48,442 And they're promising that they will receive over $17 million. 293 00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:58,703 CHIEF: What we see here is a lot of cans 294 00:17:58,703 --> 00:18:01,372 that they use to practice Obeah. 295 00:18:01,372 --> 00:18:02,373 MARIANA: This one is actually called 296 00:18:02,373 --> 00:18:03,624 the Million Dollar Spray. 297 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:04,625 CHIEF: Million Dollar Spray, right. 298 00:18:04,625 --> 00:18:05,960 MARIANA: Means if you spray it, 299 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,044 you're gonna be blessed with a million dollars. 300 00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:08,379 CHIEF: They believe, they believe so. 301 00:18:08,379 --> 00:18:10,006 MARIANA: Wow. Some of these are incredible. 302 00:18:10,006 --> 00:18:13,593 Look at this one. Famous Double Fast Luck Spray. 303 00:18:13,593 --> 00:18:16,804 CHIEF: This one is called Bring Back Customers. 304 00:18:16,804 --> 00:18:18,180 MARIANA: The state of emergency 305 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:21,350 led to an uptick of arrests like these. 306 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:23,894 Some of the bigger players have even been extradited 307 00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:26,647 to face justice in the United States. 308 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,155 All in all, it's a tense time to be a scammer in Jamaica, 309 00:18:34,155 --> 00:18:38,868 which isn't making it any easier for me to meet more of them. 310 00:18:38,868 --> 00:18:41,203 (horn honking) 311 00:18:41,203 --> 00:18:44,415 But then I was invited to meet a local boss, 312 00:18:44,415 --> 00:18:48,711 a man who runs a crew of scammers. 313 00:18:48,711 --> 00:18:51,464 We arrange to meet at a hillside hideout, 314 00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:55,259 only a few miles from Jamaica's rum‐soaked resorts. 315 00:18:55,259 --> 00:19:06,479 ♪ ♪ 316 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:10,399 Looks like a bunch of guys with masks waiting for us. 317 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:11,609 MAN: Okay. 318 00:19:11,609 --> 00:19:12,902 MARIANA: I can't tell if they're armed or not, 319 00:19:12,902 --> 00:19:16,572 but we should probably go. 320 00:19:16,572 --> 00:19:19,825 (car beeping) 321 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:27,375 Hi. 322 00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:33,506 Okay. 323 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:34,799 All good? 324 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,134 This is the microphone. 325 00:19:37,134 --> 00:19:39,178 As we approach the meeting spot, 326 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:44,725 it's clear the boss isn't taking any chances. 327 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:47,395 So, we keep going this way? 328 00:19:47,395 --> 00:19:59,031 ♪ ♪ 329 00:19:59,031 --> 00:20:00,991 MARIANA: Hi. 330 00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:02,368 I'm Mariana. 331 00:20:02,368 --> 00:20:04,286 What would you like me to call you? 332 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:09,125 MARIANA: Viktor? Okay. Can I ask you what the G is for? 333 00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:14,505 MARIANA: So you're proud of that? 334 00:20:16,215 --> 00:20:17,925 MARIANA: Can I put a mic on you, Viktor? 335 00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:25,141 MARIANA: You wouldn't like it if it was a man doing this? 336 00:20:29,353 --> 00:20:30,938 MARIANA: Okay, thank you. 337 00:20:33,274 --> 00:20:35,860 MARIANA: I'm ready, Viktor. 338 00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:39,697 MARIANA: So these guys, we are surrounded by one, two, three, 339 00:20:39,697 --> 00:20:41,532 at least three that I can see, three guys. 340 00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:46,871 MARIANA: What guns are used to protect? 341 00:20:58,174 --> 00:20:59,759 MARIANA: So what do you do, Viktor? 342 00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:08,309 MARIANA: How long have you been in the money game for? 343 00:21:20,404 --> 00:21:22,031 MARIANA: Do you remember the first time you did it? 344 00:21:35,169 --> 00:21:38,130 MARIANA: Since those early days, Viktor has risen to become 345 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:40,633 what he describes as a midlevel boss. 346 00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:43,427 How has the state of emergency affected you guys? 347 00:21:48,641 --> 00:21:49,266 MARIANA: Really? 348 00:21:52,728 --> 00:21:54,522 MARIANA: 200 people working for you? 349 00:21:54,522 --> 00:21:55,523 No way. 350 00:21:58,275 --> 00:22:01,028 MARIANA: Behind all the swagger is a young man 351 00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:04,323 who says he grew up on the rough side of Montego Bay 352 00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:05,741 with very few options. 353 00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:21,382 MARIANA: In other words, reparations. 354 00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:24,635 The idea that scamming white people is payback 355 00:22:24,635 --> 00:22:28,055 for a brutal history of slavery and colonialism. 356 00:22:28,055 --> 00:22:31,141 It's a justification that I heard from Tweety as well. 357 00:22:31,141 --> 00:22:32,643 It's also the title of perhaps 358 00:22:32,643 --> 00:22:35,563 the biggest scammer anthem of them all. 359 00:22:35,563 --> 00:22:37,356 ♪ Dem call it scam ♪ 360 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:39,191 ♪ Me call it a reparation ♪ 361 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,373 MARIANA: Have you ever had to hurt anyone because of scamming? 362 00:23:10,639 --> 00:23:11,974 MARIANA: Wait, you were thinking of taking our cameras 363 00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:13,684 and robbing us? 364 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:29,283 ♪ ♪ 365 00:23:29,283 --> 00:23:30,659 MARIANA: You were thinking of taking our cameras 366 00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:31,452 and robbing us? 367 00:23:35,664 --> 00:23:36,749 MARIANA: Okay. 368 00:23:42,463 --> 00:23:44,256 MARIANA: I don't know how to feel about this. 369 00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:48,761 MARIANA: Thank you, Viktor. 370 00:23:51,513 --> 00:23:54,016 MARIANA: Do you think there's more money being made through, 371 00:23:54,016 --> 00:23:56,644 by scamming than in the drug business here? 372 00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:21,335 MARIANA: Over the next several days, 373 00:24:21,335 --> 00:24:23,963 I meet with a handful of other scammers, 374 00:24:23,963 --> 00:24:26,090 and they're all full of surprises. 375 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:28,801 So first question is, why these masks? 376 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:32,972 MARIANA: You're a fan of Donald Trump? 377 00:24:40,145 --> 00:24:41,480 MARIANA: The Trump twins are actually 378 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,067 college‐educated brothers. 379 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:47,486 Another woman I meet had turned to scamming 380 00:24:47,486 --> 00:24:50,072 when she couldn't make enough money as a hairstylist 381 00:24:50,072 --> 00:24:51,407 to raise her four kids. 382 00:24:56,996 --> 00:24:58,664 MARIANA: What fascinates me most 383 00:24:58,664 --> 00:25:02,001 are the day‐to‐day details of their work. 384 00:25:02,001 --> 00:25:05,504 Every day you call 284 people? 385 00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:08,382 MARIANA: At its heart, scamming is a sales job. 386 00:25:08,382 --> 00:25:12,553 Only a tiny percentage of calls are going to generate cash. 387 00:25:12,553 --> 00:25:14,304 Of those people that you call, how many of them... 388 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:21,937 MARIANA: So volume is key. 389 00:25:21,937 --> 00:25:23,605 Okay, so it's an Excel sheet, 390 00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:25,983 and the Excel sheet is called "Client." 391 00:25:25,983 --> 00:25:30,738 So there's a Nancy, Clarissa, Rhonda, Paula, Alice, Chad. 392 00:25:30,738 --> 00:25:32,364 Just saying the first names, just first names. 393 00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:35,451 MARIANA: (bleep). This is crazy. 394 00:25:35,451 --> 00:25:39,163 So, wait, we're at 4,500 and I'm still scrolling. 395 00:25:39,163 --> 00:25:42,958 Much like sales, it helps to know how to close the deal, too. 396 00:25:42,958 --> 00:25:45,544 This man, who says he's made millions scamming, 397 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:48,255 has a special trick after telling his marks 398 00:25:48,255 --> 00:25:49,631 that they've won a Mercedes. 399 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,141 MARIANA: You actually send a key to, like, a fake Mercedes? 400 00:25:59,141 --> 00:26:01,643 MARIANA: The best scammers are relentless, 401 00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:03,437 but they're also intuitive, 402 00:26:03,437 --> 00:26:06,690 quickly assessing what the voice on the other line really wants. 403 00:26:25,667 --> 00:26:28,170 MARIANA: With little more than a burner phone and some gumption, 404 00:26:28,170 --> 00:26:30,798 scammers can reach across oceans 405 00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:34,718 and wreak havoc on the lives of ordinary people. 406 00:26:34,718 --> 00:26:37,638 Welcome to the dark side of globalization. 407 00:26:44,645 --> 00:26:47,397 Half a world away, I was about to get a glimpse 408 00:26:47,397 --> 00:26:50,067 of an even more lucrative type of scamming. 409 00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:57,991 While scamming in Jamaica brings in 410 00:26:57,991 --> 00:27:00,869 hundreds of millions of dollars a year, 411 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:04,998 scamming in Israel is reported to bring in billions. 412 00:27:07,251 --> 00:27:09,086 I want to know how it works. 413 00:27:09,086 --> 00:27:10,712 (clapping) 414 00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:12,673 What's happening? 415 00:27:12,673 --> 00:27:14,883 You can see him? 416 00:27:14,883 --> 00:27:16,927 Okay. Everyone ready? 417 00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:20,347 He's driving up, guys. 418 00:27:20,347 --> 00:27:23,308 So, I arranged to meet with a man who was described to me 419 00:27:23,308 --> 00:27:27,062 as a big player in the scamming industry. 420 00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:28,313 I'm told he's made a fortune 421 00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:30,691 running various investment companies, 422 00:27:30,691 --> 00:27:35,362 all of which specialize in financial fraud. 423 00:27:35,362 --> 00:27:40,158 I was also told to be very careful. 424 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:41,785 MARIANA: Hi. MOSHIKO: Hello. 425 00:27:41,785 --> 00:27:44,580 MARIANA: Thank you so much for meeting us. I'm Mariana. 426 00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:45,873 Moshiko. 427 00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:47,499 I do. 428 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:49,501 Okay. 429 00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:50,544 So you're gonna turn it off? 430 00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:52,838 Okay. 431 00:27:56,174 --> 00:27:59,344 I've interviewed hundreds of people through the years. 432 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:02,639 Moshiko is the first to ever take away my phone. 433 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:09,730 I ask him to give me the scammers tour of Tel Aviv. 434 00:28:25,412 --> 00:28:26,955 MARIANA: In a lot of these buildings 435 00:28:26,955 --> 00:28:29,374 that look completely legitimate, there's actually all this... 436 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,509 MARIANA: Is it an open secret? You seem to know. 437 00:28:39,509 --> 00:28:41,762 Do people in Tel Aviv and Israel know? 438 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:54,608 MARIANA: How many of these companies, 439 00:28:54,608 --> 00:28:56,902 fraudulent scamming companies do you think there are? 440 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,280 MARIANA: Yeah. 441 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,281 No way. 442 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,034 Holy (bleep). 443 00:29:04,034 --> 00:29:05,577 (Moshiko chuckles) 444 00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:09,206 While the lottery scam in Jamaica is the go‐to con, 445 00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:13,001 in Israel, it's all about the investment scam. 446 00:29:13,001 --> 00:29:15,212 The depth of this fraud was first uncovered 447 00:29:15,212 --> 00:29:18,215 by Simona Weinglass, an investigative journalist 448 00:29:18,215 --> 00:29:20,008 who was tipped off by a source 449 00:29:20,008 --> 00:29:22,135 working at a scam investment company. 450 00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:23,845 SIMONA WEINGLASS: He told me that there wasn't just 451 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:25,764 one company like this, but there were hundreds, 452 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:27,516 and they were stealing billions of dollars. 453 00:29:27,516 --> 00:29:30,769 It sounded crazy, and it turned out to be true. 454 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,855 MARIANA: Just like in Jamaica, Simona says the investment scams 455 00:29:33,855 --> 00:29:37,901 in Israel often start with call centers and lead lists. 456 00:29:37,901 --> 00:29:40,904 Employees at these seemingly legitimate companies 457 00:29:40,904 --> 00:29:42,781 cold call potential clients 458 00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:46,243 and get them to invest in an exciting trading opportunity. 459 00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:47,619 SIMONA: You start to trade, 460 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:49,454 you'll see your account going up and up, 461 00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:51,415 the retention agent will keep talking to you 462 00:29:51,415 --> 00:29:53,333 and getting you to put more and more money in, 463 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:55,627 and then eventually, when they sense 464 00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:57,671 that you're not going to put any more money in, 465 00:29:57,671 --> 00:29:59,673 they just disappear with the money. 466 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:09,224 MARIANA: Josh, you work for a company, 467 00:30:09,224 --> 00:30:11,727 getting clients and lying to clients and scamming clients? 468 00:30:11,727 --> 00:30:13,437 JOSH: Yes. 469 00:30:13,437 --> 00:30:15,439 MARIANA: I found one of these agents who was willing 470 00:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,900 to talk to me if we agreed not to reveal his identity. 471 00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,527 We'll call him Josh. 472 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:21,737 Where do you find the clients? How do you... 473 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,917 MARIANA: They catch them with ads and websites like this 474 00:30:35,917 --> 00:30:39,337 that look like legitimate and professional trading platforms 475 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:43,258 and often promise easy trading and profits. 476 00:30:43,258 --> 00:30:46,845 You convince these people to invest with you, 477 00:30:46,845 --> 00:30:50,057 and then after they give you the money that you want, 478 00:30:50,057 --> 00:30:51,058 you sort of disappear? 479 00:30:51,058 --> 00:30:52,392 JOSH: We actually don't disappear. 480 00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:53,685 We work with them for a while. 481 00:30:58,315 --> 00:31:00,067 MARIANA: At any point, is that money actually invested 482 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:01,109 in anything or is that money... 483 00:31:01,109 --> 00:31:02,486 JOSH: No. 484 00:31:02,486 --> 00:31:06,573 MARIANA: So it's all a lie? JOSH: Yeah. 485 00:31:06,573 --> 00:31:08,658 SIMONA: The money was never in your account to begin with, 486 00:31:08,658 --> 00:31:10,202 there never was an account. 487 00:31:10,202 --> 00:31:13,580 This company was probably not where they said it was. 488 00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,999 MARIANA: Josh works in one popular version 489 00:31:15,999 --> 00:31:20,045 of an investment scam, which is often sold as a binary option. 490 00:31:20,045 --> 00:31:22,964 Not all binary options trading is fraudulent, 491 00:31:22,964 --> 00:31:25,801 and the scam version itself runs the spectrum 492 00:31:25,801 --> 00:31:27,844 from misleading investors 493 00:31:27,844 --> 00:31:31,389 to the outright theft that Josh and Simona describe. 494 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:34,559 But binary options fraud became so pervasive, 495 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:36,853 that both the Security and Exchange Commission 496 00:31:36,853 --> 00:31:41,316 and the FBI were forced to issue warnings to investors. 497 00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:42,818 And over the past year alone, 498 00:31:42,818 --> 00:31:45,487 the U. S. Justice Department has charged 499 00:31:45,487 --> 00:31:48,156 at least 15 binary option agents. 500 00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:49,741 Around the globe, 501 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:54,621 Israeli scammers have allegedly stolen billions. 502 00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:56,414 Do you ever feel guilty about what you do? 503 00:31:56,414 --> 00:31:58,041 JOSH: Yes. 504 00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:01,419 I hardly sleep. 505 00:32:01,419 --> 00:32:03,130 My soul is, like, telling me, 506 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:05,882 fighting against what I'm doing, on my actions. 507 00:32:05,882 --> 00:32:06,967 MARIANA: On one occasion, 508 00:32:06,967 --> 00:32:09,344 Josh claims he was so racked by guilt 509 00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,931 at how much money he'd already stolen from a Canadian client 510 00:32:12,931 --> 00:32:15,058 that he actually called the authorities 511 00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:18,937 to prevent the client from transferring any more money. 512 00:32:18,937 --> 00:32:20,063 And did anyone find out that you did that? 513 00:32:20,063 --> 00:32:21,731 JOSH: No. 514 00:32:21,731 --> 00:32:23,400 MARIANA: What would have happened to you if they did? 515 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,527 JOSH: I will have not been sitting here right now. 516 00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:27,445 Either I will be killed or something like that. 517 00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:29,030 MARIANA: You'd be killed? JOSH: Yes. 518 00:32:29,030 --> 00:32:32,159 MARIANA: Is it that serious? JOSH: It is. Very dangerous. 519 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:34,786 MARIANA: He says his soul is crushed by guilt 520 00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,372 and that he works under the threat of violence, 521 00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:39,749 and yet he keeps scamming 522 00:32:39,749 --> 00:32:43,336 because he makes keeps 10% to 15% of any money he brings in. 523 00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:45,672 JOSH: It's a huge amount of money. 524 00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:47,090 MARIANA: How many of these companies do you think exist 525 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:48,425 here in Israel? 526 00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:51,178 SIMONA: Now the industry has gone underground, 527 00:32:51,178 --> 00:32:52,220 they're not as open. 528 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:53,430 I hear from people 529 00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:57,017 that these call centers are still everywhere. 530 00:32:57,017 --> 00:32:59,895 MARIANA: "Jobs for multilinguals in Israel," 531 00:32:59,895 --> 00:33:02,063 let's see what shows up. 532 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:04,024 "Looking for hardworking, fluent English speakers, 533 00:33:04,024 --> 00:33:05,358 enthusiastic and assertive, 534 00:33:05,358 --> 00:33:08,862 who are looking to make a lot of money. 535 00:33:08,862 --> 00:33:12,532 A young and dynamic atmosphere with snacks." 536 00:33:12,532 --> 00:33:15,285 For the snacks alone, I'm gonna send an email to this one. 537 00:33:15,285 --> 00:33:18,330 So apart from people like you, who's benefiting from this? 538 00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:26,296 (phone ringing) 539 00:33:26,296 --> 00:33:27,297 MAN: Hi. Yes? 540 00:33:27,297 --> 00:33:28,882 MARIANA: Hi, this is Maria Flores. 541 00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:33,845 Yes, Maria Flores, I emailed about a job position? 542 00:33:33,845 --> 00:33:35,513 If I wanted to go to one of these companies 543 00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:39,893 and film undercover inside and say that I'm applying for a job, 544 00:33:39,893 --> 00:33:41,269 what should I say? 545 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:42,729 JOSH: Why, you're applying for something? 546 00:33:42,729 --> 00:33:45,398 MARIANA: Maybe. 547 00:33:45,398 --> 00:33:47,817 So I've got my little button camera right here. 548 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:50,153 I've got the mic pack. 549 00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:51,613 DIRECTOR: Alright, let's roll on it. 550 00:33:58,411 --> 00:34:03,625 ♪ ♪ 551 00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:06,002 MARIANA: While applying for jobs at what I suspect might be 552 00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:08,004 a scam investment company, 553 00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:09,589 I've turned to Josh for advice 554 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:11,216 on how to get my foot in the door. 555 00:34:11,216 --> 00:34:12,592 JOSH: You can say that I know how to do sales 556 00:34:12,592 --> 00:34:13,927 and probably you can get in. 557 00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:15,345 MARIANA: Not in the actual trading? 558 00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:18,306 JOSH: No. There are agents who don't know anything, 559 00:34:18,306 --> 00:34:20,976 a single word about trading, they just know how to sell. 560 00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:23,228 MARIANA: I've worked in translations as an interpreter. 561 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:26,356 I've also worked at a carpet/rugs company 562 00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:29,943 where I was dealing with very rich clients. 563 00:34:34,406 --> 00:34:36,825 MARIANA: Okay. Yeah, a polygraph? 564 00:34:38,368 --> 00:34:40,078 MARIANA: That's never happened to me, but okay. 565 00:34:44,791 --> 00:34:46,501 MARIANA: Should I be concerned about my security 566 00:34:46,501 --> 00:34:47,627 if they find out I'm filming undercover? 567 00:34:47,627 --> 00:34:49,004 JOSH: Yes. 568 00:34:49,004 --> 00:34:49,754 MARIANA: What do you think they could do? 569 00:34:49,754 --> 00:34:51,172 JOSH: There are no limits. 570 00:34:51,172 --> 00:34:54,718 What is the worst damage you think you can get of? 571 00:34:54,718 --> 00:34:56,845 MARIANA: I mean, I could be hurt or killed, obviously. 572 00:34:56,845 --> 00:34:58,263 JOSH: Exactly, so that's it. 573 00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:00,473 That's the answer for your question. (chuckles) 574 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:07,772 MARIANA: Have we thought this through, guys? 575 00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:09,524 This, for better or worse, 576 00:35:09,524 --> 00:35:12,652 is where my curiosity gets the better of me. 577 00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:17,699 What could these places possibly look like from the inside? 578 00:35:17,699 --> 00:35:20,160 There's only one way to find out. 579 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,704 So, I'm Maria Flores. I was born in '87. 580 00:35:22,704 --> 00:35:25,832 I'm moving to Tel Aviv with my boyfriend, which is Jacob. 581 00:35:25,832 --> 00:35:27,334 PRODUCER: He's Israeli. 582 00:35:27,334 --> 00:35:29,252 MARIANA: I'm applying for a sales job at this company. 583 00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:31,880 You're my friend, and you're helping me with Hebrew. 584 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,631 PRODUCER: Yeah. MARIANA: Sounds good? 585 00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:34,507 PRODUCER: Yeah. 586 00:35:34,507 --> 00:35:36,676 MARIANA: My wing woman for this operation 587 00:35:36,676 --> 00:35:38,887 is an amazing local producer 588 00:35:38,887 --> 00:35:41,931 whose name and identity we've agreed not to disclose. 589 00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,476 So, I've got my little button camera right here. 590 00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:46,853 I've got the mic pack. 591 00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:50,607 This gets really hot, so I don't want to turn it on early. 592 00:35:52,567 --> 00:35:54,444 Yup. Definitely nervous. 593 00:35:54,444 --> 00:35:56,321 Just can't wait for this to be over. 594 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:57,489 So you're constantly thinking that maybe 595 00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,115 they're going to realize that you're filming, 596 00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:00,825 even though they probably aren't. 597 00:36:10,085 --> 00:36:13,004 DIRECTOR: Alright, let's roll on it. 598 00:36:13,004 --> 00:36:14,130 MARIANA: You see it? DIRECTOR: Yeah. 599 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:15,757 MARIANA: Okay, so it's recording now. 600 00:36:15,757 --> 00:36:18,218 Wish me luck, guys. 601 00:36:18,218 --> 00:36:33,525 ♪ ♪ 602 00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:35,985 Fifth floor. 603 00:36:35,985 --> 00:36:37,821 Oh, my god. 604 00:36:37,821 --> 00:36:38,863 Okay. 605 00:36:43,451 --> 00:36:45,412 This is it. 606 00:36:45,412 --> 00:36:46,830 Okay, so we're here. 607 00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:51,209 It sounds like there's a party going on in there, right? 608 00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:52,836 PRODUCER: Yeah, there's music in it. 609 00:36:52,836 --> 00:36:55,004 (muffled music) 610 00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:56,589 MAN: Hello. MARIANA: Hi, how are you? 611 00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:59,426 I'm here to meet (bleep). I am. Oh, you were waiting for me! 612 00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:01,386 MARIANA: Hi, how are you? MAN: Nice to meet you. 613 00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:04,264 MARIANA: This is the man I had corresponded with over email. 614 00:37:04,264 --> 00:37:06,224 This is a nice office. 615 00:37:10,019 --> 00:37:10,979 MARIANA: Thank you. 616 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,816 Oh, okay. 617 00:37:14,816 --> 00:37:16,901 Yeah. 618 00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:20,363 We can't know for sure that this is a scam company, 619 00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:24,075 but our sources told us to be on the lookout for certain clues, 620 00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,745 like a blind emphasis on sales 621 00:37:26,745 --> 00:37:30,707 and assurances that no knowledge of finance is required. 622 00:37:32,667 --> 00:37:33,793 MARIANA: Mm‐hmm. Oh, definitely. 623 00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:37,422 MARIANA: Yeah. 624 00:37:37,422 --> 00:37:39,466 My only fear is that I don't know anything 625 00:37:39,466 --> 00:37:40,675 about the Forex market. 626 00:37:46,514 --> 00:37:49,267 MARIANA: Really? Okay. So it's not that hard? 627 00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:50,894 So what are you looking for? 628 00:37:50,894 --> 00:37:52,395 What kind of characteristics would you... 629 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:56,941 MARIANA: Great, so all I need is to want money. 630 00:37:59,194 --> 00:38:01,279 MARIANA: Then the manager arrives. 631 00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:03,031 Hi. Nice to meet you, too. 632 00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:04,824 And gets straight to the point. 633 00:38:14,209 --> 00:38:15,960 MARIANA: Wait, how much, how much money can I make here? 634 00:38:19,422 --> 00:38:21,966 MARIANA: A month? MANAGER: A month. Okay? 635 00:38:21,966 --> 00:38:24,969 MARIANA: Not bad for an entry level job. 636 00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,013 Again, it's hard to say for certain 637 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:30,308 that this is a scam company, but for an investment firm, 638 00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:33,061 they sure have a funny approach to customer service. 639 00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:03,508 MARIANA: Salespeople at scam companies 640 00:39:03,508 --> 00:39:06,427 are ordered to sell under fake names. 641 00:39:06,427 --> 00:39:09,597 They're also told to lie about the company's location. 642 00:39:09,597 --> 00:39:13,309 The scammers say they're in New York, London, Zurich, 643 00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:15,937 but never, ever Israel. 644 00:39:15,937 --> 00:39:17,856 If you don't know who you're dealing with, 645 00:39:17,856 --> 00:39:19,607 or where they're located, 646 00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:22,443 it's very hard to get your money back. 647 00:39:23,611 --> 00:39:24,821 MARIANA: That is it. 648 00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:32,412 ♪ ♪ 649 00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:34,247 He kept looking at my boobs. Can you believe it? 650 00:39:34,247 --> 00:39:36,457 I was thinking, are they looking at my boobs or the camera? 651 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:37,625 PRODUCER: Yeah. 652 00:39:37,625 --> 00:39:39,961 MARIANA: Or my necklaces or what's happening? 653 00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:45,675 Okay, guys. Okay, the good news is that I was hired. 654 00:39:45,675 --> 00:39:46,926 (man laughs) 655 00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:48,803 I can start as early as next week. 656 00:39:48,803 --> 00:39:50,430 DIRECTOR: Nice. Congratulations. 657 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:51,723 MARIANA: I mean, super shady. 658 00:39:51,723 --> 00:39:53,683 I'm so happy it's over. 659 00:39:59,314 --> 00:40:02,358 As we drive through Tel Aviv, I realize the city skyline 660 00:40:02,358 --> 00:40:06,613 provides the perfect white‐collar camouflage. 661 00:40:06,613 --> 00:40:10,992 So much of the business world looks and sounds the same. 662 00:40:10,992 --> 00:40:14,329 The offices, the branding, the button‐downs, 663 00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:18,207 and yet some not‐small number of these normal‐looking people 664 00:40:18,207 --> 00:40:21,169 are on their way to normal‐looking cubicles 665 00:40:21,169 --> 00:40:23,671 where they'll spend their days stealing money 666 00:40:23,671 --> 00:40:27,216 from innocent people around the world. 667 00:40:27,216 --> 00:40:31,596 And for what? So they can buy a big‐ass yacht. 668 00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:38,603 On my last day in Tel Aviv, I caught up with Moshiko 669 00:40:38,603 --> 00:40:40,605 to try and understand how he justifies 670 00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:42,231 the lifestyle he's chosen. 671 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:50,657 MOSHIKO: And in three months, I might send them back 30,000, 672 00:40:50,657 --> 00:40:52,867 and they think they just had a bad experience 673 00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:54,369 with the financial markets. 674 00:40:54,369 --> 00:40:56,829 MARIANA: There is no part of you that feels bad about this? 675 00:40:56,829 --> 00:40:59,832 That you're taking away the last 200,000 from Joe the mechanic 676 00:40:59,832 --> 00:41:01,709 who's worked all of his life for this money? 677 00:41:01,709 --> 00:41:03,962 MOSHIKO: If Joe the mechanic thinks it's responsible 678 00:41:03,962 --> 00:41:06,965 to send $200,000 to a website that he hasn't checked out, 679 00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:09,968 Joe the mechanic needs to be responsible for his decisions. 680 00:41:12,345 --> 00:41:14,555 MARIANA: So, Moshiko, you seem like a very smart person 681 00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:16,516 who obviously has no problem making money. 682 00:41:16,516 --> 00:41:18,476 Why do, why do it this way? 683 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:19,560 MOSHIKO: Where else can you make 684 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,522 a million dollars in a week from home? 685 00:41:22,522 --> 00:41:23,773 Come on. 686 00:41:23,773 --> 00:41:25,400 You live one life. 687 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,444 Why should I spend my whole life working, making 50,000 a year, 688 00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,863 when I can sit here and I can enjoy my life? 689 00:41:30,863 --> 00:41:32,573 MARIANA: How much money do you think you've made from this? 690 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:35,743 MOSHIKO: The most I made in one day was $300,000. 691 00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:41,290 Ten plus years, I have probably brought in $75 to $100 million. 692 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:44,627 MARIANA: Moshiko says that scamming is here to stay. 693 00:41:44,627 --> 00:41:48,339 It's an inconvenient truth about the globalized world. 694 00:41:48,339 --> 00:41:49,757 MOSHIKO: Just like PT Barnum said, 695 00:41:49,757 --> 00:41:52,427 what's, there's a sucker born every minute. 696 00:41:52,427 --> 00:41:54,137 MARIANA: You know who else said that to us? 697 00:41:54,137 --> 00:41:56,139 The Jamaican scammer. The exact same line. 698 00:41:56,139 --> 00:41:57,682 MOSHIKO: That is absolutely true. 699 00:41:57,682 --> 00:42:04,689 ♪ ♪ 700 00:42:13,072 --> 00:42:24,500 (phone ringing) 701 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:25,501 ADAM: Hello? 702 00:42:25,501 --> 00:42:27,587 SCAMMER: Hey, Adam? ADAM: Uh‐huh. 703 00:42:27,587 --> 00:42:30,590 SCAMMER: Brace yourself. Are you braced? 704 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:34,552 You've won 19.42 million US dollars. 705 00:42:34,552 --> 00:42:37,138 How do you feel? 706 00:42:37,138 --> 00:42:39,015 ADAM: Okay, how is that possible? 707 00:42:39,015 --> 00:42:41,100 SCAMMER: Adam, do you eat out? 708 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:42,101 ADAM: Yes. 709 00:42:42,101 --> 00:42:43,352 SCAMMER: Are you vegetarian? 710 00:42:43,352 --> 00:42:44,771 ADAM: Uh‐huh. 711 00:42:44,771 --> 00:42:46,397 SCAMMER: Oh, my god, Adam, you ran your credit card 712 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:48,149 at a Whole Foods store. 713 00:42:48,149 --> 00:42:49,650 Have you had Whole Foods recently? 714 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:50,985 ADAM: Yeah, all the time. 715 00:42:50,985 --> 00:42:52,695 SCAMMER: Adam, you've won. You've (bleep) won! 716 00:42:52,695 --> 00:42:56,240 What are you gonna do with $19.42 million? 717 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,576 MARIANA: Hey, Adam, if you're watching, 718 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:01,370 I want you to know that this call is a scam. 719 00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:05,708 MARIANA: Adam, you're not a sucker, 720 00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:08,127 but the guys on the other line are hoping, 721 00:43:08,127 --> 00:43:10,004 really hoping, that you are. 722 00:43:14,258 --> 00:43:18,012 MARIANA: They make a living in a way that's obviously wrong. 723 00:43:18,012 --> 00:43:21,057 But imagine waking up every morning 724 00:43:21,057 --> 00:43:24,268 and seeing a bunch of tourists spending more money in a week 725 00:43:24,268 --> 00:43:27,897 than you make in a year, 726 00:43:27,897 --> 00:43:31,400 and then going home to a place outside resort walls 727 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,569 that were erected to keep you out. 728 00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:41,536 MARIANA: Now imagine all this is wrapped in a history of slavery 729 00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:45,456 and exploitation, a legacy that is very much alive and well. 730 00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:54,382 MARIANA: Reverse imperialism? 731 00:44:02,306 --> 00:44:05,393 MARIANA: "If you have a phone, you have a chance." 732 00:44:05,393 --> 00:44:09,021 It's the most powerful rationalization I've heard. 733 00:44:09,021 --> 00:44:11,607 Phone scamming as a last resort. 734 00:44:11,607 --> 00:44:14,193 A literal lifeline. 735 00:44:17,989 --> 00:44:20,825 Even so, most scammers I met 736 00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:24,787 seem to struggle with what they do. 737 00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:26,455 Real jungle out here. 738 00:44:26,455 --> 00:44:28,040 TWEETY: Right, right, right. 739 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,500 MARIANA: I know Tweety does. 740 00:44:36,424 --> 00:44:38,968 TWEETY: Almost there, Mariana, almost there. 741 00:44:38,968 --> 00:44:40,428 MARIANA: Huge spiderweb! 742 00:44:40,428 --> 00:44:42,889 (Tweety laughs) 743 00:44:42,889 --> 00:44:44,682 MARIANA: Just down here? TWEETY: Yeah. 744 00:44:47,018 --> 00:44:48,644 MARIANA: You good? 745 00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:50,521 This is really cool. 746 00:44:54,734 --> 00:44:56,527 TWEETY: Whoa. 747 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:57,528 MARIANA: Is it cold? 748 00:44:57,528 --> 00:44:59,197 TWEETY: Yeah. (laughs) 749 00:45:08,456 --> 00:45:10,249 MARIANA: So this is to ward off evil spirits? 750 00:45:10,249 --> 00:45:11,125 TWEETY: Right. 751 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,172 MARIANA: Ghosts, yeah. And you mix that with water? 752 00:45:16,172 --> 00:45:17,381 TWEETY: Water. MARIANA: Okay. 753 00:45:25,514 --> 00:45:27,225 TWEETY: Whoa, it's getting wet. 754 00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:29,393 MARIANA: Wow, it's raining, it's raining a lot. 755 00:45:31,896 --> 00:45:33,564 MARIANA: Extra blessing? 756 00:45:33,564 --> 00:45:36,192 I'm gonna join you since I'm totally wet already anyway. 757 00:45:36,192 --> 00:45:37,735 There's no point in me pretending here. 758 00:45:40,947 --> 00:45:42,740 MARIANA: One, two, three. 759 00:45:46,327 --> 00:45:49,288 I've spent a lot of time with people like Tweety, 760 00:45:49,288 --> 00:45:51,207 telling stories of those who make a living 761 00:45:51,207 --> 00:45:54,001 on the wrong side of the law. 762 00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:56,754 All too often, the people who inhabit these worlds 763 00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:58,923 are painted as ruthless criminals, 764 00:45:58,923 --> 00:46:02,093 immoral villains, bad people. 765 00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:03,469 But in my experience, 766 00:46:03,469 --> 00:46:06,097 they're a lot more like us than we want to admit. 767 00:46:13,521 --> 00:46:15,147 TWEETY: Fresh start, new beginning, right? 768 00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:16,983 MARIANA: Fresh start, new beginning. 769 00:46:16,983 --> 00:46:29,787 ♪ ♪ 770 00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:32,498 JOSH: Everything is a scam. Everybody takes their piece. 771 00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:34,959 MOSHIKO: Who's making money off of these industries? 772 00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:37,169 Everyone. It funds entire countries! 773 00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:41,215 VIKTOR: If I'm a billionaire, I'll be done. 774 00:46:45,970 --> 00:46:47,722 MOSHIKO: Will I ever stop scamming? 775 00:46:47,722 --> 00:46:49,390 No, it's too much fun. 776 00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:51,559 MARIANA: How do you think this is gonna end for you? 777 00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:52,893 (gunshots) 778 00:46:52,893 --> 00:46:54,020 (siren) 779 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:02,778 MAN: Know what I mean? You get it, right? 780 00:47:02,778 --> 00:47:04,697 (siren) 781 00:47:04,697 --> 00:47:06,324 Captioned by Side Door Media Services