1 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:08,550 (gunshots) 2 00:00:08,550 --> 00:00:11,053 REPORTER: A wild shoot‐out on the streets of the Bronx. 3 00:00:11,053 --> 00:00:14,515 Tonight, a 51‐year‐old grandfather shot dead 4 00:00:14,515 --> 00:00:16,016 in broad daylight. 5 00:00:16,934 --> 00:00:19,353 VAN ZELLER: I've seen plenty of violence in my career, 6 00:00:19,353 --> 00:00:21,521 but a professional hit like this caught my attention. 7 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:27,736 The killing was allegedly part of an ongoing turf war, 8 00:00:27,736 --> 00:00:31,698 but not between rival street gangs or mafia crime families. 9 00:00:32,491 --> 00:00:36,119 These men were from rival motorcycle clubs. 10 00:00:39,706 --> 00:00:42,459 KOZLOWSKI: That One Percenter patch is declaring 99% 11 00:00:42,459 --> 00:00:44,795 of everybody else are law‐abiding citizens, 12 00:00:44,795 --> 00:00:47,339 we are the 1% that are the criminals. 13 00:00:49,967 --> 00:00:52,094 They wear that as a badge of honor. 14 00:00:52,094 --> 00:00:56,098 STEWART: Some people might judge us for the symbols that we wear, 15 00:00:56,098 --> 00:00:58,225 but if that makes us outlaws, so be it. 16 00:01:00,602 --> 00:01:03,689 VAN ZELLER: These clubs are a contradiction on two wheels. 17 00:01:04,189 --> 00:01:06,984 Proudly and loudly public on American roads. 18 00:01:06,984 --> 00:01:09,111 Holy (bleep). 19 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,864 And yet, notoriously secret 20 00:01:12,864 --> 00:01:15,492 about what membership truly entails. 21 00:01:15,742 --> 00:01:18,662 MAN: You live outside the law. 22 00:01:18,662 --> 00:01:20,080 There's just that 1% of guys 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,040 that don't give a (bleep) about the law... 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,500 About the (bleep) cops... 25 00:01:23,917 --> 00:01:25,502 None of that (bleep). 26 00:01:26,753 --> 00:01:28,714 VAN ZELLER: What's motivating the violence? 27 00:01:28,714 --> 00:01:30,549 Who's calling the shots? 28 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:34,761 And what does it really mean to be in the 1%? 29 00:01:48,817 --> 00:01:52,404 (train approaching) 30 00:01:57,951 --> 00:01:59,286 VAN ZELLER: Within the biker world, 31 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:01,371 certain motorcycle clubs have a reputation 32 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:03,665 for violence and secrecy. 33 00:02:04,791 --> 00:02:07,127 The Vagos are one of those clubs. 34 00:02:08,128 --> 00:02:09,963 STEWART: Traditionally, our club has been 35 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:12,007 one of the most tight‐lipped of them all. 36 00:02:12,257 --> 00:02:16,136 But I am a fan of opening people's eyes. 37 00:02:17,512 --> 00:02:19,765 VAN ZELLER: That's how I end up at this bar 38 00:02:20,015 --> 00:02:22,017 with the club's international president, 39 00:02:22,017 --> 00:02:23,518 a man they call... 40 00:02:23,518 --> 00:02:24,645 STEWART: There we go. 41 00:02:24,645 --> 00:02:26,146 VAN ZELLER: Bigfoot. 42 00:02:26,897 --> 00:02:29,858 STEWART: I started riding Harley Davidsons in my mid‐20s 43 00:02:29,858 --> 00:02:31,485 and it didn't take long to discover 44 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:34,321 that these One Percenter clubs 45 00:02:34,321 --> 00:02:38,492 dictate the life and, I wanted to have a say. 46 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:40,077 VAN ZELLER: The term "One Percenter" comes from the 47 00:02:40,077 --> 00:02:42,704 American Motorcycle Association 48 00:02:42,704 --> 00:02:46,291 which claims that 99% of bikers are law‐abiding citizens. 49 00:02:48,251 --> 00:02:51,338 The implication proudly embraced by certain clubs like the Vagos, 50 00:02:52,297 --> 00:02:55,550 is that the other 1% live by their own rules. 51 00:02:56,677 --> 00:02:58,970 STEWART: We say to the world we understand 52 00:02:58,970 --> 00:03:01,556 what American written law is, 53 00:03:01,556 --> 00:03:03,850 but we believe some of it to be horse (bleep). 54 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:07,062 If you say something horrible to me, 55 00:03:07,062 --> 00:03:09,356 the law says I'm not allowed to punch you in the mouth for it. 56 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:13,235 VAN ZELLER: Right. STEWART: We say we can. 57 00:03:13,235 --> 00:03:15,153 And we accept whatever punishment comes with that. 58 00:03:16,071 --> 00:03:17,531 And let me tell you this. 59 00:03:17,531 --> 00:03:20,117 We don't (bleep) hate cops. 60 00:03:20,117 --> 00:03:23,537 But what we, we don't like are the dirty portion of them, 61 00:03:23,537 --> 00:03:27,999 who like to stand before a group of mainstream media press, 62 00:03:27,999 --> 00:03:31,294 and then, they like to call us the Mafia on two wheels. 63 00:03:31,586 --> 00:03:32,629 VAN ZELLER: They call you gangs, right? 64 00:03:32,629 --> 00:03:34,256 STEWART: Yeah, gangs. 65 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:35,340 VAN ZELLER: They don't call you clubs. They call you gangs. 66 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:35,966 STEWART: They love to use that word. 67 00:03:35,966 --> 00:03:37,884 Gang, gang, gang. 68 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:39,803 VAN ZELLER: Why is it that there's so much, um, 69 00:03:39,803 --> 00:03:42,931 animosity between different clubs? 70 00:03:43,432 --> 00:03:46,268 STEWART: I wouldn't say that there is. 71 00:03:46,268 --> 00:03:48,562 VAN ZELLER: So you guys are best friends with all the other clubs. 72 00:03:48,562 --> 00:03:49,980 STEWART: I wouldn't say that either. 73 00:03:49,980 --> 00:03:52,315 Our club motto is "We give what we get". 74 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:53,984 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 75 00:03:53,984 --> 00:03:55,986 STEWART: And sometimes it results in some really rough stuff. 76 00:03:55,986 --> 00:03:58,655 VAN ZELLER: What about murder? STEWART: What about it? 77 00:03:58,655 --> 00:04:00,949 VAN ZELLER: That you guys have been involved in murder. 78 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:04,369 STEWART: Well, every once in a while, 79 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:07,330 a melee between a couple of guys or a couple of clubs go at it. 80 00:04:07,330 --> 00:04:10,625 Maybe, maybe a guy dies. 81 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:13,545 When we go into this life, 82 00:04:13,545 --> 00:04:15,630 we know that that is something that could happen. 83 00:04:16,465 --> 00:04:19,176 OFFICER: Members of the Vagos motorcycle gang were armed. 84 00:04:20,343 --> 00:04:22,512 VAN ZELLER: The Vagos have a bloody history. 85 00:04:22,512 --> 00:04:25,056 OFFICER: They are an immediate threat to the public safety. 86 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:27,392 VAN ZELLER: But it's hard to get anyone to say 87 00:04:27,392 --> 00:04:29,144 what's behind the violence. 88 00:04:30,187 --> 00:04:32,105 One of the things that you hear all the time is that 89 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,566 "Motorcycle clubs are involved in drug trafficking." 90 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:36,568 STEWART: It's false. 91 00:04:36,568 --> 00:04:38,236 VAN ZELLER: And that's not something you've ever witnessed, 92 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:39,905 or saw, or you do not condone that? 93 00:04:39,905 --> 00:04:43,033 STEWART: As far as the Vagos motorcycle club being 94 00:04:43,033 --> 00:04:49,122 some amazingly disorganized yet organized drug empire, 95 00:04:49,915 --> 00:04:51,041 forget about it. 96 00:04:51,041 --> 00:04:52,667 Not a chance. 97 00:04:52,667 --> 00:04:55,545 I mean, of course, I'm on film, I wouldn't say it if we were, 98 00:04:55,545 --> 00:04:57,589 but I mean, it's utterly ridiculous. 99 00:04:59,966 --> 00:05:02,636 I don't know what every single guy does for a living. 100 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:04,930 I mean, I have no doubt that there might be a couple of guys 101 00:05:04,930 --> 00:05:06,848 that are up to no good. 102 00:05:06,848 --> 00:05:09,267 I don't judge my brothers, that's their business. 103 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:14,022 VAN ZELLER: Bigfoot wants me to believe in 104 00:05:14,022 --> 00:05:16,691 what's called "The bad apple" defense. 105 00:05:16,691 --> 00:05:19,945 The idea that the entire club isn't criminal, 106 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:21,947 just a few bad apples. 107 00:05:23,323 --> 00:05:25,951 I'm suspicious, but I just don't know enough to know 108 00:05:25,951 --> 00:05:27,661 if he's telling me the truth. 109 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:30,747 I need to better understand these bikers. 110 00:05:30,747 --> 00:05:32,666 I need to go to Sturgis. 111 00:05:47,889 --> 00:05:53,937 (cheering) 112 00:05:58,441 --> 00:06:00,485 VAN ZELLER: For 10 days, every August, 113 00:06:00,485 --> 00:06:03,780 the tiny town of Sturgis, South Dakota gets a little rowdy. 114 00:06:11,329 --> 00:06:12,706 VAN ZELLER: That's what happens when the 115 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:16,001 city of 7,000 people plays host to half a million. 116 00:06:16,793 --> 00:06:18,628 Most of them in leather. 117 00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:23,049 Who comes to Sturgis? 118 00:06:23,049 --> 00:06:26,344 MONTHEY: Everybody. It's all walks of lives. 119 00:06:26,344 --> 00:06:29,306 You have doctors and attorneys that are here. 120 00:06:29,306 --> 00:06:31,308 You have people that are homeless here 121 00:06:31,308 --> 00:06:33,101 and everybody in between. 122 00:06:35,687 --> 00:06:39,065 VAN ZELLER: But there's a darker side to the Sturgis motorcycle rally. 123 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:41,943 That's why I'm here. 124 00:06:41,943 --> 00:06:45,822 And why Shane comes too, 14 years running. 125 00:06:45,822 --> 00:06:48,074 MONTHEY: I work for the local police department. 126 00:06:48,658 --> 00:06:51,453 VAN ZELLER: He's one of the more than 100 law enforcement agents 127 00:06:51,453 --> 00:06:54,080 brought in from other cities to patrol the event. 128 00:06:54,706 --> 00:06:57,208 Over the years, Sturgis has seen plenty of violence. 129 00:06:58,126 --> 00:06:59,836 MAN: It's really intense, man, they were going at it, 130 00:06:59,836 --> 00:07:01,338 the Mongols and the Hells Angels. 131 00:07:02,547 --> 00:07:04,382 MONTHEY: I've witnessed a shooting. 132 00:07:05,175 --> 00:07:09,054 I've witnessed a stabbing, and then just your basic assaults. 133 00:07:11,890 --> 00:07:13,725 VAN ZELLER: Shane says most of the trouble originates 134 00:07:13,725 --> 00:07:15,101 with One Percenters. 135 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:21,191 MONTHEY: Laws don't apply to them. 136 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:22,776 VAN ZELLER: So you don't think they're afraid 137 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:24,110 of law enforcement at all? 138 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:25,111 MONTHEY: You know, if they want to do something, 139 00:07:25,111 --> 00:07:26,112 they're going to do it. 140 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:27,364 VAN ZELLER: As a journalist, 141 00:07:27,364 --> 00:07:28,740 if I'm trying to get into these clubs 142 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:30,408 and see how they operate, um, 143 00:07:30,408 --> 00:07:32,744 do you think that's an easy thing to do? 144 00:07:32,744 --> 00:07:35,038 MONTHEY: I would say no. 145 00:07:35,038 --> 00:07:36,623 I would say good luck. 146 00:07:38,083 --> 00:07:39,793 VAN ZELLER: I hit the streets of Sturgis, 147 00:07:39,793 --> 00:07:41,753 eager to find another way in. 148 00:07:43,004 --> 00:07:44,631 What's strange about this story, 149 00:07:44,631 --> 00:07:47,300 especially compared to other investigations I've done, 150 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,678 is that these One Percenters aren't hard to find. 151 00:07:50,929 --> 00:07:53,431 They literally wear their allegiances on their backs. 152 00:07:54,724 --> 00:07:56,559 But that doesn't mean they want to talk. 153 00:07:58,770 --> 00:08:01,606 These One Percenter clubs are so secretive, 154 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:03,692 that some of them don't even stay in Sturgis. 155 00:08:05,068 --> 00:08:07,028 They stay outside of town, 156 00:08:07,028 --> 00:08:10,740 at private campgrounds that apparently, get wild. 157 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:16,454 Searching for an invite, 158 00:08:16,454 --> 00:08:19,624 I reach out to a biker turned radio host named "Hollywood." 159 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,460 Who I hear is popular with the One Percenters. 160 00:08:23,253 --> 00:08:24,546 MACECARI: And welcome to this edition of 161 00:08:24,546 --> 00:08:26,381 Motorcycle Madhouse Radio. 162 00:08:26,381 --> 00:08:28,800 Thanks for joining us. 163 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:31,386 (phone ringing) 164 00:08:31,386 --> 00:08:32,762 MACECERI (over phone): This is Hollywood. 165 00:08:32,762 --> 00:08:34,097 VAN ZELLER: Hi, Hollywood. 166 00:08:34,097 --> 00:08:35,306 It's Mariana. How are you doing? 167 00:08:35,306 --> 00:08:37,225 It's a long shot, but I asked if he can get me 168 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:39,602 inside one of these campgrounds. 169 00:08:40,937 --> 00:08:43,523 To my surprise, he comes through. 170 00:08:44,357 --> 00:08:47,068 That's where I'm heading now, to meet a One Percenter club 171 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:48,862 called the "Sons of Silence." 172 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:09,215 VAN ZELLER: Why do you think they agreed to speak to us then? 173 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:20,351 VAN ZELLER: So when I see the guard and the gate, 174 00:09:20,351 --> 00:09:22,562 I'll ask you guys to put the cameras down. 175 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:24,981 Which I think is here actually, so cameras down. 176 00:09:24,981 --> 00:09:26,858 We're here. We're here. 177 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,944 I have no idea what we're walking into. 178 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:38,036 (motorcycle engine) 179 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:50,632 Okay. So I hope this goes well. 180 00:09:58,389 --> 00:10:00,683 VAN ZELLER: There's a steady drumbeat of violence 181 00:10:00,683 --> 00:10:03,603 within biker culture. 182 00:10:03,603 --> 00:10:06,898 My quest to understand why has led me to the private campground 183 00:10:06,898 --> 00:10:11,027 of a One Percenter Club called the Sons of Silence. 184 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:15,615 It's like something out of Mad Max. 185 00:10:17,033 --> 00:10:19,828 But our invite has come with some restrictions. 186 00:10:20,245 --> 00:10:22,705 We can "Watch but not engage". 187 00:10:30,672 --> 00:10:33,049 Oh my God. This is (bleep) crazy. 188 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:35,093 What the (bleep)? 189 00:10:46,187 --> 00:10:48,231 No members can speak on camera 190 00:10:48,231 --> 00:10:51,526 without permission from the leaders. 191 00:10:52,235 --> 00:10:55,488 So I'm stuck, just looking at these men. 192 00:10:55,989 --> 00:11:00,577 (camera shutter) 193 00:11:00,577 --> 00:11:02,537 These faces. 194 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:07,834 I find myself thinking about the faces of their brothers. 195 00:11:07,834 --> 00:11:10,295 The ones I've seen in mug shots. 196 00:11:11,254 --> 00:11:12,714 REPORTER: Federal authorities indicted members 197 00:11:12,714 --> 00:11:15,758 of the Sons of Silence motorcycle gang. 198 00:11:15,758 --> 00:11:19,596 OFFICIAL: An illegal narcotics trafficking organization. 199 00:11:19,596 --> 00:11:21,014 VAN ZELLER: In the 12 years, 200 00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:22,765 club members have been convicted of everything, 201 00:11:22,765 --> 00:11:25,435 from selling meth and cocaine, to sex trafficking, 202 00:11:26,352 --> 00:11:30,023 intimidation, extortion, assault, abduction, and murder. 203 00:11:32,358 --> 00:11:34,402 That rap sheet is front of mind 204 00:11:34,402 --> 00:11:36,946 as I tour the grounds campground with our minder, 205 00:11:36,946 --> 00:11:38,531 a biker named Cody, 206 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:41,284 who wears an "Enforcer" patch. 207 00:11:41,284 --> 00:11:43,661 Do most members come? 208 00:11:43,661 --> 00:11:45,830 CODY: It's a mandatory run, so everybody comes. 209 00:11:45,830 --> 00:11:47,165 VAN ZELLER: It's mandatory to come? 210 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:48,958 Oh, I didn't know that. 211 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:52,212 Apparently, I'm not the only one who's got rules to follow. 212 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:54,672 What's this? 213 00:11:54,672 --> 00:11:56,591 CODY: Every chapter has a flag. 214 00:11:56,591 --> 00:11:57,800 And when they get here, 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,053 they hang it on a flag and raise it up. 216 00:12:00,053 --> 00:12:01,888 VAN ZELLER: Huh. 217 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:04,182 How many are supposed to be up here, do you know? 218 00:12:04,182 --> 00:12:05,934 CODY: I do. 219 00:12:05,934 --> 00:12:07,143 VAN ZELLER: You don't wanna tell me? 220 00:12:07,143 --> 00:12:09,062 Okay. 221 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:11,481 CODY: That's where the silence part comes in. 222 00:12:17,445 --> 00:12:18,780 VAN ZELLER: How often is it that you have cameras 223 00:12:18,780 --> 00:12:20,114 filming these events? 224 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:21,407 CODY: Never. 225 00:12:21,407 --> 00:12:23,618 Never at all. 226 00:12:28,706 --> 00:12:31,793 VAN ZELLER: Okay. BOAR: I'm game. VAN ZELLER: Yeah? 227 00:12:31,793 --> 00:12:33,419 BOAR: It's your show, let's go. 228 00:12:33,419 --> 00:12:35,380 VAN ZELLER: The only members we're allowed to interview 229 00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:37,465 are Cody and a man named Boar, 230 00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:40,176 who's been in the club nearly 50 years, 231 00:12:41,177 --> 00:12:43,888 but even our interview has strict rules attached. 232 00:12:44,597 --> 00:12:48,226 So I'm going to ask you the questions that we've agreed upon. 233 00:12:48,226 --> 00:12:49,560 BOAR: Uh‐hmm. 234 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,354 VAN ZELLER: I'd say it's the first time that I have 235 00:12:51,354 --> 00:12:52,814 a list of questions in front of me 236 00:12:52,814 --> 00:12:54,440 because I usually like it to be more of a conversation. 237 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,442 But we've agreed upon these questions 238 00:12:56,442 --> 00:12:58,987 and I believe you have answers in front of you. 239 00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:00,822 So, first question is, 240 00:13:00,822 --> 00:13:03,283 what attracts people to motorcycle clubs? 241 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:05,451 BOAR: A lot of people are attracted here 242 00:13:05,451 --> 00:13:07,912 due to the freedom and the love of riding motorcycles. 243 00:13:08,413 --> 00:13:09,831 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 244 00:13:09,831 --> 00:13:11,624 BOAR: The brotherhood and the sense of family 245 00:13:11,624 --> 00:13:15,503 and belonging to something bigger than yourself. 246 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:21,884 VAN ZELLER: What makes this brotherhood different 247 00:13:21,884 --> 00:13:24,846 than just regular friends? 248 00:13:24,846 --> 00:13:27,307 BOAR: A lot of these guys we have in our club 249 00:13:27,307 --> 00:13:30,643 are veterans of every war you can think of. 250 00:13:32,395 --> 00:13:34,856 When I came, around 46 years ago, 251 00:13:34,856 --> 00:13:36,774 it was all Vietnam veterans. 252 00:13:37,233 --> 00:13:40,194 When they came home from what they ever did elsewhere, 253 00:13:40,194 --> 00:13:43,781 they were told just to go home and be happy you're home. 254 00:13:45,116 --> 00:13:47,118 VAN ZELLER: Many of these returning soldiers 255 00:13:47,118 --> 00:13:48,911 struggled to adjust, 256 00:13:48,911 --> 00:13:50,955 especially in the face of a protest movement 257 00:13:50,955 --> 00:13:53,332 that often blamed them for the failures 258 00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:55,376 and atrocities of the war. 259 00:13:55,877 --> 00:13:58,296 Seeking the camaraderie they'd known while serving, 260 00:13:58,296 --> 00:14:01,674 many were drawn to these civilian "Bands of brothers." 261 00:14:04,218 --> 00:14:06,387 MAN: This is freedom for me. 262 00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:08,681 What's real? It ain't plastic. 263 00:14:08,681 --> 00:14:10,683 Society's creepy. 264 00:14:10,683 --> 00:14:12,602 Mind (bleep). 265 00:14:17,315 --> 00:14:21,611 BOAR: Some of the veterans have had their fill of people. 266 00:14:22,153 --> 00:14:24,822 But here, they feel like they're at home. 267 00:14:24,822 --> 00:14:27,492 This is where everybody is accepted 268 00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:29,994 if this is where you want to be. 269 00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:32,622 And that's what this was all about. 270 00:14:33,414 --> 00:14:36,000 VAN ZELLER: The military's influence is telling, 271 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,254 on the surface, the scene feels wild and freewheeling 272 00:14:40,254 --> 00:14:43,257 but there's a structure that lies beneath. 273 00:14:43,257 --> 00:14:45,343 The mandatory attendance. 274 00:14:45,343 --> 00:14:47,678 The flag displays. 275 00:14:47,678 --> 00:14:50,723 The organized competitions. 276 00:14:51,307 --> 00:14:53,976 They wear a different kind of uniform, 277 00:14:53,976 --> 00:14:56,646 but they are still trained to obey their leaders. 278 00:14:57,271 --> 00:15:00,024 BOAR: In our club, it takes at least a year 279 00:15:00,024 --> 00:15:02,401 to be a full patch holder. 280 00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:06,239 VAN ZELLER: Potential members must undergo a vetting process. 281 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:07,907 "Prospects", as they're known, 282 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:09,784 prove their commitment to the club 283 00:15:09,784 --> 00:15:12,203 by following members' orders. 284 00:15:12,203 --> 00:15:15,456 It's not hard to spot these prospects around camp. 285 00:15:15,456 --> 00:15:18,334 I see one tending the fire. 286 00:15:18,334 --> 00:15:20,128 Another one on his bike. 287 00:15:20,128 --> 00:15:22,463 They can only wear what's called the "Bottom rocker", 288 00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:24,298 ID'ing their chapter. 289 00:15:24,298 --> 00:15:27,760 Only once accepted do they become "Full patch" members 290 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,805 and earn their "Colors", the club's logo. 291 00:15:32,515 --> 00:15:34,392 BOAR: If they're not satisfactory to what 292 00:15:34,392 --> 00:15:37,019 we're looking for, we get rid of them. 293 00:15:37,854 --> 00:15:39,522 VAN ZELLER: Can I ask you though, 294 00:15:39,522 --> 00:15:42,733 about the tattoos and the meanings of the tattoos and the patches? 295 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:44,193 BOAR: Okay. 296 00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:47,280 VAN ZELLER: The "SS" which you know was the elite team 297 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,115 of the Nazis, right? 298 00:15:49,115 --> 00:15:53,369 Or does the "SS" represent something else for you? 299 00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:56,998 CODY: For me, it does, but I'm not going to talk about it. 300 00:15:58,541 --> 00:16:02,295 VAN ZELLER: Cody may deny it, but charges of racism and sexism 301 00:16:02,295 --> 00:16:05,173 have dogged these One Percenter clubs through the years. 302 00:16:06,299 --> 00:16:10,344 BOAR: If you were a member, you'd understand some tattoos 303 00:16:10,344 --> 00:16:12,221 are to keep people away. 304 00:16:12,221 --> 00:16:13,681 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 305 00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:16,851 BOAR: And don't ask, does that make sense? 306 00:16:16,851 --> 00:16:20,062 VAN ZELLER: Absolutely. I won't ask about the tattoos anymore then. 307 00:16:20,062 --> 00:16:21,564 BOAR: I didn't hear you. 308 00:16:21,564 --> 00:16:23,399 VAN ZELLER: I won't ask about the tattoos anymore then. 309 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:24,650 BOAR: Thank you. 310 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:26,986 VAN ZELLER: But I also won't stay on script. 311 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:30,323 What exactly is an outlaw biker? What does that mean? 312 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,576 BOAR: That one, I don't think is a good question. 313 00:16:36,078 --> 00:16:38,289 The police are the ones that have deemed us 314 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:40,541 to be "Outlaws." 315 00:16:40,541 --> 00:16:43,211 This is who we are, what we are, and what we do. 316 00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:46,756 I think they're trying to portray us as something we, 317 00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,966 we're not. 318 00:16:49,717 --> 00:16:53,221 VAN ZELLER: And it's, it is working, because, you know, 319 00:16:53,221 --> 00:16:55,806 I've been to many places in my life, but yet, 320 00:16:55,806 --> 00:16:57,391 I was intimidated coming here. 321 00:16:57,391 --> 00:16:59,560 I wasn't sure what to expect. 322 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,437 Is that something that you want to continue 323 00:17:01,437 --> 00:17:03,397 or is that something that you're hoping 324 00:17:03,397 --> 00:17:06,025 will change your image to the outside world? 325 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:08,653 CODY: We don't give a (bleep) what people think about us. 326 00:17:09,654 --> 00:17:11,197 VAN ZELLER: Right. 327 00:17:11,197 --> 00:17:13,741 But you also don't want people to think that you are criminals. 328 00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:15,368 BOAR: We really don't care. 329 00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:18,746 We're not here to be anything to anybody. 330 00:17:19,956 --> 00:17:21,624 We're here for us. 331 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:25,419 VAN ZELLER: Is it possible that these One Percenters 332 00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:27,922 just have an image problem? 333 00:17:27,922 --> 00:17:31,259 That they aren't really outlaws, just outcasts, 334 00:17:31,259 --> 00:17:33,344 wanting to be left alone? 335 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:38,182 Unsure, I head back to LA, where I connect with a new source, 336 00:17:39,141 --> 00:17:41,477 a biker who says he's willing to open up 337 00:17:41,477 --> 00:17:44,313 about how these clubs really operate from the inside. 338 00:17:45,898 --> 00:17:48,276 KOZLOWSKI: That One Percenter patch that you see on my vest here. 339 00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:51,112 They wear that as a badge declaring, 340 00:17:51,112 --> 00:17:53,197 "Hey, we are a gang. 341 00:17:53,197 --> 00:17:55,533 We are a criminal organization." 342 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:56,993 They know what it means. 343 00:17:56,993 --> 00:17:59,120 The culture knows what it means. 344 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:02,039 But they're not going to say that. 345 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:04,917 They're going to call themselves a club, we're a motorcycle club, 346 00:18:04,917 --> 00:18:06,419 "We just like to do what we do 347 00:18:06,419 --> 00:18:08,045 because it's the freedom of the riding." 348 00:18:08,045 --> 00:18:10,172 They're going to distance themselves 349 00:18:10,172 --> 00:18:12,592 from any opportunity to say that they're an actual gang. 350 00:18:12,592 --> 00:18:15,428 VAN ZELLER: How many clubs did you infiltrate? 351 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:17,054 KOZLOWSKI: Personally, I've infiltrated 352 00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:18,848 three separate motorcycle gangs. 353 00:18:18,848 --> 00:18:21,976 And each one of them becoming a full‐patch member in all three. 354 00:18:22,768 --> 00:18:24,854 VAN ZELLER: In all three, you became a full‐patch member? 355 00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:26,314 KOZLOWSKI: Yes. 356 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:28,274 VAN ZELLER: That's right. This dude is a federal agent 357 00:18:28,274 --> 00:18:30,484 and within law enforcement circles, 358 00:18:30,484 --> 00:18:32,528 a legend. 359 00:18:32,528 --> 00:18:34,447 His name is Darrin Kozlowski. 360 00:18:34,447 --> 00:18:35,823 Better known as "Koz." 361 00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:41,037 KOZLOWSKI: Between 1997 and 2008, 362 00:18:41,037 --> 00:18:42,788 I was undercover full time 363 00:18:42,788 --> 00:18:45,374 for approximately six of those eleven years 364 00:18:45,374 --> 00:18:47,209 in those three gangs. 365 00:18:48,669 --> 00:18:50,296 VAN ZELLER: Koz explains that these clubs 366 00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:52,381 had sold the public a story, 367 00:18:52,381 --> 00:18:57,345 the same story that the Sons of Silence and Bigfoot 368 00:18:57,345 --> 00:18:58,846 tried to sell me. 369 00:19:00,014 --> 00:19:04,268 But the reality is much dirtier and, he's lived it. 370 00:19:12,443 --> 00:19:16,781 ♪ ♪ 371 00:19:16,781 --> 00:19:19,241 KOZLOWSKI: As undercovers, we are thinking the worst. 372 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:22,328 People have been killed even being suspected 373 00:19:22,328 --> 00:19:25,122 of being informants or snitches for these kinds of gangs. 374 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,708 And there's been murders from people even thinking 375 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:30,211 that they were informants, and they even weren't. 376 00:19:30,211 --> 00:19:31,462 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 377 00:19:31,462 --> 00:19:35,007 Darren Kozlowski lived with that fear for years 378 00:19:35,007 --> 00:19:37,343 as an undercover agent with the ATF, 379 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:39,428 the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, 380 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:41,972 he infiltrated three of the most notorious 381 00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:44,016 One Percenter motorcycle clubs. 382 00:19:44,475 --> 00:19:47,061 The Vagos, Warlocks, and Mongols. 383 00:19:48,145 --> 00:19:50,564 KOZLOWSKI: They'll make money from any means necessary. 384 00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:53,275 They're opportunists, so if it's the drug game, weapons, 385 00:19:53,275 --> 00:19:56,320 if it's prostitution, they'll find a way to do it. 386 00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:59,740 And on top of that, you'll have the other events 387 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:00,825 that come along with it. 388 00:20:00,825 --> 00:20:02,868 The violence, the fighting, the stabbings, 389 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:05,329 the territorial disputes, the murders. 390 00:20:06,247 --> 00:20:08,249 VAN ZELLER: Koz explains that the brotherhood 391 00:20:08,249 --> 00:20:10,000 these clubs talk about is real 392 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,878 and it's also what makes them effective as criminal gangs. 393 00:20:13,879 --> 00:20:16,841 KOZLOWSKI: It gives them that means to conduct their business 394 00:20:16,841 --> 00:20:19,802 with that level of trust. 395 00:20:19,802 --> 00:20:22,638 That separates them a little bit differently from everybody else. 396 00:20:22,638 --> 00:20:25,433 And then when they're getting some heat from another rival gang, 397 00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:27,393 yeah, they can make a phone call to LA 398 00:20:27,393 --> 00:20:30,730 and LA is going to send 100 dudes to that area 399 00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:33,649 and that's going to be followed with intimidation, 400 00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:36,736 going into bars, acts of violence, stabbings, beatings, 401 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:39,655 whatever it may be to establish themselves of the, 402 00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:40,948 to a point of dominance 403 00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:43,033 that we're not here to be (bleep) with. 404 00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:47,538 VAN ZELLER: Koz tells me the Bronx killing was the result 405 00:20:47,538 --> 00:20:49,123 of a classic turf rivalry. 406 00:20:50,374 --> 00:20:52,418 The Pagans were unhappy that the Hells Angels 407 00:20:52,418 --> 00:20:55,713 had moved their clubhouse into the Bronx. 408 00:20:55,713 --> 00:20:59,091 The beef escalated and the Pagan leader was gunned down. 409 00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:01,927 KOZLOWSKI: Because in their culture, 410 00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:05,723 that patch means so much, that gang means so much to them, 411 00:21:05,723 --> 00:21:08,142 that's what they live and die over. 412 00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:13,981 VAN ZELLER: Weeks later, Koz tips me off 413 00:21:13,981 --> 00:21:15,941 to a One Percenter's funeral. 414 00:21:16,692 --> 00:21:19,737 A member of the Mongols Motorcycle Club has died 415 00:21:19,737 --> 00:21:22,072 and his brothers are gathering for a tradition 416 00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:23,699 called "The Last Ride". 417 00:21:27,995 --> 00:21:30,247 Wow, you can see all the bikes already up there. 418 00:21:30,247 --> 00:21:31,999 CICCONE: Yeah, wait until you see the procession. 419 00:21:31,999 --> 00:21:33,876 There's, there will be 400 or 500 bikes. 420 00:21:33,876 --> 00:21:35,795 VAN ZELLER: Yeah? 421 00:21:35,795 --> 00:21:37,463 CICCONE: It's even impressive for us and we've been working it forever. 422 00:21:37,463 --> 00:21:39,006 VAN ZELLER: But there's something else that makes 423 00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:42,802 this funeral different, it's being monitored by the feds. 424 00:21:43,427 --> 00:21:44,553 CICCONE: They know that we're out here. 425 00:21:44,553 --> 00:21:45,805 VAN ZELLER: Yeah. 426 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,223 CICCONE: This isn't like a covert stealthy thing. 427 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:49,266 That, you know, creates a perception in their mind 428 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:51,811 that we're still working them. 429 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:53,687 And waiting for them to slip up. 430 00:21:55,606 --> 00:21:57,316 VAN ZELLER: Special agent John Ciccone 431 00:21:57,316 --> 00:22:00,402 leads ATF's investigations into One Percenter clubs 432 00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:02,530 in Southern California. 433 00:22:02,530 --> 00:22:04,448 During Koz's years undercover, 434 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:06,951 he considered Ciccone his guardian angel. 435 00:22:06,951 --> 00:22:08,285 CICCONE: So what's gonna happen is, 436 00:22:08,285 --> 00:22:10,162 you're gonna have your road captains, right? 437 00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:11,872 Which are these guys. 438 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:17,753 And their job is to block off intersections as this thing proceeds, 439 00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:21,382 so it keeps the whole pack together. 440 00:22:21,382 --> 00:22:23,050 VAN ZELLER: Are they allowed to do this, to block the roads? 441 00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:24,510 CICCONE: No, but who's gonna stop them. 442 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:26,053 You're not going to get yourself in the middle of all that, 443 00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:29,390 just because they run a red light, you know what I mean? 444 00:22:31,892 --> 00:22:34,603 CICCONE: There's a lot of 'em, man. 445 00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:36,856 VAN ZELLER: The bikers fall into formation, again, 446 00:22:36,856 --> 00:22:39,275 I sense the military's influence. 447 00:22:39,817 --> 00:22:42,361 The Last Ride is a show of respect, 448 00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:46,699 but it's also a very public display of force. 449 00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:51,328 Oh, wow, so that's the hearse right here. 450 00:22:51,328 --> 00:22:53,914 CICCONE: Yup, and then you got one guy protecting it. 451 00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:55,374 One rider. 452 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:58,085 VAN ZELLER: And then it's just a sea of bikes behind. 453 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:03,299 Wow, they're looking at us. 454 00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:05,551 CICCONE: Yeah, it's going to get dicey. 455 00:23:06,093 --> 00:23:08,262 VAN ZELLER: Holy (bleep). 456 00:23:08,262 --> 00:23:11,390 I mean, the whole car is shaking. 457 00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:14,018 Did you see that? 458 00:23:14,018 --> 00:23:15,686 He flipped a middle finger at us. 459 00:23:15,686 --> 00:23:17,354 CICCONE: Yeah. 460 00:23:21,692 --> 00:23:22,860 VAN ZELLER: I'm truly. 461 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:26,447 Like my body just need a rest right now. 462 00:23:26,447 --> 00:23:28,574 So intense. 463 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,702 CICCONE: I've primarily worked the Mongols, 464 00:23:31,702 --> 00:23:33,287 so I know the most about them. 465 00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:38,292 They want to instill fear and intimidation wherever they go. 466 00:23:38,292 --> 00:23:41,170 I consider them one of the most violent out there. 467 00:23:41,879 --> 00:23:43,923 VAN ZELLER: Over the years, ATF's work has led 468 00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:46,133 to several major takedowns. 469 00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:47,843 O'BRIEN: Homicides, narcotics, 470 00:23:47,843 --> 00:23:50,137 some extremely violent individuals 471 00:23:50,137 --> 00:23:52,056 who were taken off the street today. 472 00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:54,183 REPORTER: Speaking before a treasure trove 473 00:23:54,183 --> 00:23:56,018 of seized assets form the gang, 474 00:23:56,018 --> 00:23:58,103 the US attorney announced a major sweep 475 00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:00,439 and takedown of the Mongols. 476 00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:02,441 He called them a violent criminal enterprise. 477 00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:04,860 CICCONE: We convicted the gang. 478 00:24:05,361 --> 00:24:08,155 We had four agents that were members for three years. 479 00:24:08,822 --> 00:24:11,241 I mean, they went through the process, hang around, 480 00:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,161 prospecting, and then full‐patch membership for that time period. 481 00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:17,373 But, you know, the protocols were broken down to them. 482 00:24:17,373 --> 00:24:20,626 You know, if you see a Hells Angel, shoot on sight. 483 00:24:25,089 --> 00:24:28,801 The Mongols have killed three Hells Angels in the last month. 484 00:24:29,051 --> 00:24:30,094 VAN ZELLER: No way. 485 00:24:30,094 --> 00:24:32,054 CICCONE: There was a shooting here, 486 00:24:32,054 --> 00:24:34,181 and then Denver was a murder, Indiana a murder, 487 00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:36,809 Cleveland, Ohio a murder. 488 00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:38,644 VAN ZELLER: So there's a huge fight going on between the two? 489 00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:42,022 CICCONE: Yeah, it's been that way since the '70s. 490 00:24:46,193 --> 00:24:49,571 VAN ZELLER: Agent Ciccone shows me the video of a massive brawl 491 00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,657 inside a Nevada casino. 492 00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:58,247 Two Hells Angels died from gunshots and a Mongol was 493 00:24:58,247 --> 00:24:59,665 stabbed to death. 494 00:25:01,834 --> 00:25:03,794 (gunshots) 495 00:25:03,794 --> 00:25:06,463 CICCONE: 3,000 innocent civilians in that casino. 496 00:25:06,463 --> 00:25:09,675 They didn't give a (bleep) and the Hells Angels didn't give a (bleep). 497 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,552 They came in and got it on. They got it on. 498 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,430 Because they're, that's what gang members do. 499 00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:19,101 VAN ZELLER: Ciccone explains how the clubs encourage these rivalries. 500 00:25:19,101 --> 00:25:21,186 CICCONE: If you confront another rival gang member, 501 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:22,938 you get a Respect Few, Fear None patch. 502 00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:24,982 You know, it's a badge of honor. 503 00:25:24,982 --> 00:25:27,985 If you're involved in a shooting or a murder, 504 00:25:27,985 --> 00:25:30,320 you get a skull and crossbones patch. 505 00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,616 So they're promoting the violence 506 00:25:34,616 --> 00:25:36,535 and rewarding the violence. 507 00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,245 VAN ZELLER: Giving them patches. 508 00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:39,997 Of course. 509 00:25:39,997 --> 00:25:42,958 It's been right there in front of my face the whole time. 510 00:25:43,959 --> 00:25:45,753 Stitched into the leather, 511 00:25:45,753 --> 00:25:48,839 coded language that speaks to what these clubs value. 512 00:25:49,757 --> 00:25:51,842 CICCONE: You could put all the fluff around the Harleys and all that, 513 00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:54,595 but it's a gang, we all know what comes with that. 514 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:59,600 Violence, drug trafficking, firearms trafficking, assaults, 515 00:26:00,267 --> 00:26:02,227 murders, shootings. 516 00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:04,313 And they operate just like a street gang. 517 00:26:04,313 --> 00:26:06,815 They just ride bikes. 518 00:26:11,195 --> 00:26:14,198 We got some information that a group of Mongols 519 00:26:14,198 --> 00:26:16,742 is at a restaurant over here in Monrovia. 520 00:26:17,534 --> 00:26:20,287 So, we're just kind of go see what they're up to. 521 00:26:20,287 --> 00:26:22,289 And then we'll see if we can make contact with them. 522 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,208 VAN ZELLER: So by contact, do you mean just, like, 523 00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:25,292 try to talk to a few of them? 524 00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:26,877 Like see what happens? 525 00:26:26,877 --> 00:26:28,670 CICCONE: Yeah, we'll just pull up 526 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,172 and kind of sit there with my windows down 527 00:26:30,172 --> 00:26:32,466 and see if I can stir up anything. 528 00:26:32,466 --> 00:26:34,426 VAN ZELLER: You just love stirring up (bleep). 529 00:26:34,426 --> 00:26:36,220 CICCONE: Oh, yeah. 530 00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:42,434 VAN ZELLER: Is it just this, this Mexican restaurant? 531 00:26:43,435 --> 00:26:44,478 Oh, yeah. 532 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:46,563 CICCONE: Some bikes. 533 00:26:47,523 --> 00:26:50,192 So, there's definitely some members here. 534 00:26:50,192 --> 00:26:53,195 VAN ZELLER: So they leave their helmets on the, on their bikes. 535 00:26:53,195 --> 00:26:55,280 They're not afraid that somebody will steal them? 536 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,074 CICCONE: No one's going to steal them. 537 00:26:57,074 --> 00:26:59,034 That will not happen. 538 00:26:59,868 --> 00:27:01,829 VAN ZELLER: With no planning and no back up, 539 00:27:01,829 --> 00:27:03,539 Agent Ciccone is about to roll up 540 00:27:03,539 --> 00:27:08,001 on one of the most feared motorcycle clubs on the planet. 541 00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:11,296 And the Mongols all know he's a federal agent. 542 00:27:12,381 --> 00:27:16,218 CICCONE: Yeah, this looks like the, uh, where they're at. 543 00:27:16,218 --> 00:27:19,346 VAN ZELLER: Oh my God. 544 00:27:19,847 --> 00:27:21,932 Is this a good idea? 545 00:27:25,477 --> 00:27:28,063 CICCONE: What's going on? 546 00:27:34,444 --> 00:27:38,949 VAN ZELLER: The Mongol's motto is "Respect few, fear none." 547 00:27:40,868 --> 00:27:42,744 The ATF has called them the most violent 548 00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:45,330 motorcycle club in the country. 549 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:49,042 And yet, Agent John Ciccone has decided it's a good idea 550 00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:50,711 to crash their post‐funeral lunch. 551 00:27:51,295 --> 00:27:52,880 CICCONE: What's going on? 552 00:27:57,009 --> 00:27:58,051 CICCONE: Sure, man. 553 00:27:58,051 --> 00:27:59,928 LITTLE DAVE: Hold on. 554 00:27:59,928 --> 00:28:02,514 CICCONE: I thought that was you, I'm, like, I had to do a double take, man. 555 00:28:03,015 --> 00:28:06,101 VAN ZELLER: When Agent Ciccone invited me along for this ride, 556 00:28:06,101 --> 00:28:09,730 I didn't anticipate a friendly chat with the infamous Mongols. 557 00:28:10,814 --> 00:28:12,316 CICCONE: What's happening, dude? 558 00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:14,026 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, I didn't know you were with the wife? 559 00:28:14,026 --> 00:28:15,444 CICCONE: Not this time, man. 560 00:28:15,444 --> 00:28:17,195 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, damn. What are you guys filming? 561 00:28:17,195 --> 00:28:18,405 CICCONE: What's up, man? 562 00:28:18,405 --> 00:28:19,907 VAN ZELLER: And this isn't just any Mongol, 563 00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:21,325 it's one of the top leaders of the club. 564 00:28:21,325 --> 00:28:22,993 CICCONE: How did the funeral go? 565 00:28:22,993 --> 00:28:24,661 You guys make your run and all that? 566 00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:25,996 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah. CICCONE: How was it? 567 00:28:25,996 --> 00:28:27,414 LITTLE DAVE: We've seen you on the freeway. 568 00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:28,957 CICCONE: I was on the freeway, man. 569 00:28:28,957 --> 00:28:30,417 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah. 570 00:28:30,417 --> 00:28:31,793 CICCONE: Just stay off the freeways next weekend, man, 571 00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:33,921 because, because Castiglione is getting buried in, 572 00:28:33,921 --> 00:28:35,505 the Hells Angels in San Diego. 573 00:28:35,505 --> 00:28:37,007 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, yeah. 574 00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,175 CICCONE: He was like a 50 year member, man. 575 00:28:38,175 --> 00:28:39,468 LITTLE DAVE: Oh (bleep). CICCONE: So. 576 00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:40,928 MAN: Next weekend? CICCONE: Next weekend. 577 00:28:40,928 --> 00:28:42,387 LITTLE DAVE: I heard they buried three other dudes, like, 578 00:28:42,387 --> 00:28:43,513 in the last month. 579 00:28:43,513 --> 00:28:44,431 I don't know why, but that's what I hear. 580 00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:45,515 That's the real. 581 00:28:45,515 --> 00:28:47,351 CICCONE: No comment, man. 582 00:28:47,351 --> 00:28:49,061 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, 3‐0. CICCONE: No comment, man. LITTLE DAVE: 3‐0. 583 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,228 The score's 3‐0. 584 00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:52,022 CICCONE: No comment, man. 585 00:28:52,314 --> 00:28:54,483 VAN ZELLER: Did you catch that score line? 586 00:28:54,483 --> 00:28:56,652 3‐0. 587 00:28:56,652 --> 00:28:59,363 Presumably meaning three Hells Angels dead, 588 00:28:59,363 --> 00:29:00,948 zero Mongols killed. 589 00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:03,575 REPORTER: Investigators say multiple people 590 00:29:03,575 --> 00:29:05,661 riding motorcycles were involved in a shooting. 591 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:08,205 REPORTER 2: Police are saying a person was stabbed to death. 592 00:29:08,205 --> 00:29:10,666 REPORTER 3: Initial details painted the fatal confrontation 593 00:29:10,666 --> 00:29:13,961 between the rival gangs is an argument that escalated. 594 00:29:15,545 --> 00:29:17,422 CICCONE: All right. I'll let you guys go, man. 595 00:29:17,422 --> 00:29:19,383 VAN ZELLER: Wait, wait, wait. Can I ask a question since we're at this? 596 00:29:19,383 --> 00:29:20,550 So we're with National Geographic. 597 00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:22,135 MAN: Oh, I thought that was your wife! 598 00:29:22,135 --> 00:29:23,845 CICCONE: That's the National Geographic, man. 599 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:25,555 CICCONE: You don't see all this camera. 600 00:29:25,555 --> 00:29:27,057 LITTLE DAVE: Dude, I watch everything. 601 00:29:27,057 --> 00:29:28,475 VAN ZELLER: Can, can we come hang out with you guys one day? 602 00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:29,726 LITTLE DAVE: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 603 00:29:29,726 --> 00:29:31,228 VAN ZELLER: He's saying no. He's saying yes. 604 00:29:31,228 --> 00:29:32,729 I'm Mariana, by the way. 605 00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:34,731 Hi, how are you? So how do I contact you? 606 00:29:34,731 --> 00:29:36,566 LITTLE DAVE: Oh, my number. Take down my number. 607 00:29:36,566 --> 00:29:37,985 CICCONE: Geez. 608 00:29:37,985 --> 00:29:39,611 LITTLE DAVE: (bleep). Don't record the number. 609 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:41,196 VAN ZELLER: So I'm Mariana. I'll call you. 610 00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:42,656 LITTLE DAVE: All right. Cool. 611 00:29:42,656 --> 00:29:43,782 VAN ZELLER: And then I'm hoping we can hang out with you. 612 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:44,950 LITTLE DAVE: We'll talk, we'll talk, yeah, 613 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:45,993 I can't promise anything, but we'll talk. 614 00:29:45,993 --> 00:29:47,369 VAN ZELLER: Okay. CICCONE: Later. 615 00:29:47,369 --> 00:29:49,162 VAN ZELLER:Thanks, guys. Have a margarita for us. 616 00:29:49,162 --> 00:29:51,289 Oh, my God. That was insane. 617 00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:52,874 CICCONE: There you go, man. 618 00:29:52,874 --> 00:29:54,126 See? 619 00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:55,502 What kind of hookup you guys got here today? 620 00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:56,795 VAN ZELLER: But that was definitely (bleep). 621 00:29:56,795 --> 00:29:58,338 CICCONE: Yeah, the guy in the white shirt. 622 00:29:58,338 --> 00:29:59,840 VAN ZELLER: And he immediately obviously knew who you were. 623 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,883 And he jumped off his chair and came. 624 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:03,677 CICCONE: You have to understand that we have 625 00:30:03,677 --> 00:30:05,554 an open communication, him and I. 626 00:30:05,554 --> 00:30:07,389 It's a respect thing. 627 00:30:07,389 --> 00:30:09,433 That's all I can really explain it. 628 00:30:10,517 --> 00:30:12,936 I've worked these guys since '97. 629 00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:17,232 We don't harass them or disrespect them, but we, 630 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:20,068 we work them and we put the criminals in jail. 631 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:22,404 Especially with (bleep), he's the national president, 632 00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:23,697 you know, everything is under his watch. 633 00:30:23,697 --> 00:30:25,699 He doesn't want to go to prison. 634 00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:27,826 But then there's times when he comes more involved 635 00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:29,870 with being the national president as, you know, 636 00:30:29,870 --> 00:30:31,538 giving out those awards and those patches 637 00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:32,956 when people do stuff. 638 00:30:32,956 --> 00:30:34,124 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 639 00:30:34,124 --> 00:30:35,584 CICCONE: You know, he's behind that. 640 00:30:35,584 --> 00:30:37,836 VAN ZELLER: So there's absolutely no doubt in your mind 641 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:39,379 that they perform illegal activities, 642 00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:40,505 that they are criminals? 643 00:30:40,505 --> 00:30:42,132 CICCONE: Oh, yeah. It's who they are. 644 00:30:42,132 --> 00:30:44,468 Not all of them commit crimes every day 645 00:30:44,468 --> 00:30:46,094 or have criminal histories, 646 00:30:46,094 --> 00:30:50,432 but they have protocols that everybody has to adhere to. 647 00:30:51,141 --> 00:30:54,186 You're forced into their criminal element 648 00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:55,854 when you become a member. 649 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,440 And all they have to do is just act right 650 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,942 and we would leave them alone, you know. 651 00:31:00,942 --> 00:31:02,944 But as long as they're going to keep shooting and killing people, 652 00:31:02,944 --> 00:31:04,988 then we're going to be around. 653 00:31:06,490 --> 00:31:09,868 VAN ZELLER: I want to know what role these leaders actually play. 654 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:13,163 And if these clubs are criminal enterprises hiding in plain sight, 655 00:31:13,663 --> 00:31:15,665 then what's bringing in the money. 656 00:31:15,665 --> 00:31:18,168 KOZLOWSKI: I would say the drugs make the most money for them. 657 00:31:18,168 --> 00:31:20,962 VAN ZELLER: Koz tells me something that I didn't know before, 658 00:31:20,962 --> 00:31:24,591 that the drugs they famously transport are supplied 659 00:31:24,591 --> 00:31:27,094 and controlled by the Mexican cartels. 660 00:31:28,428 --> 00:31:31,848 So if the cartels have such a network here in the US already established, 661 00:31:31,848 --> 00:31:35,227 why work with the clubs to transport those drugs? 662 00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:36,561 What's in it for them? 663 00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:38,730 KOZLOWSKI: I think it's just going to come down 664 00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:40,148 to pure business. 665 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,859 If you have a gang that can move X amount of weight 666 00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:44,945 and you have a trusted member 667 00:31:44,945 --> 00:31:47,906 who can deliver from that connection, 668 00:31:49,199 --> 00:31:51,701 you now have a whole another network of people 669 00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:53,286 to distribute to. 670 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:54,579 You expand that territory. 671 00:31:54,579 --> 00:31:56,540 You've reached another group 672 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:59,209 that has that crossover connection with cartel types. 673 00:31:59,459 --> 00:32:00,961 VAN ZELLER: Uh‐hmm. 674 00:32:02,921 --> 00:32:05,382 This isn't about a few bad apples. 675 00:32:05,382 --> 00:32:08,009 This is pure business. 676 00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:10,428 To see the criminal side of these One Percenters, 677 00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,389 I've got to follow the money. 678 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,517 Hi. How are you doing? 679 00:32:18,645 --> 00:32:20,605 VAN ZELLER: And find the connection between the clubs 680 00:32:20,605 --> 00:32:22,607 and the cartels. 681 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:24,401 And what about, is there, do you have any connections outside of California? 682 00:32:27,779 --> 00:32:29,990 VAN ZELLER: Over the years, I've made underworld contacts. 683 00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:34,744 VAN ZELLER: On both sides of the border. 684 00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:42,127 VAN ZELLER: I've networked. 685 00:32:45,130 --> 00:32:46,173 VAN ZELLER: I've built trust. 686 00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:54,097 VAN ZELLER: And in moments like this, I know who can open doors. 687 00:33:04,774 --> 00:33:06,610 VAN ZELLER: We just got the call? 688 00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:08,820 FIXER (over phone): Yes, he finally, uh, told us where to meet. 689 00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:10,447 It's a place where they feel safe. 690 00:33:10,447 --> 00:33:13,200 It'll be a place where we can sit and talk and negotiate. 691 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:17,704 They know your name, they're expecting your call. 692 00:33:17,704 --> 00:33:21,791 They'll send a pin of where, uh, we're supposed to meet them 693 00:33:22,792 --> 00:33:24,711 VAN ZELLER: Finally, after weeks of hustling, 694 00:33:24,711 --> 00:33:28,215 a cartel contact agrees to connect me to a One Percenter 695 00:33:28,215 --> 00:33:29,758 who transports narcotics. 696 00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:34,930 Let's make sure we're not being followed. 697 00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:39,517 Okay. I'd say cameras down, guys. 698 00:33:39,517 --> 00:33:41,061 Down on cameras. 699 00:33:41,061 --> 00:33:44,272 It's more important than that we not spook them right now then. 700 00:33:45,941 --> 00:33:47,859 FIXER (over phone): There's a bit of a complication. 701 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:50,487 They don't want us to bring our cars. 702 00:33:50,737 --> 00:33:52,864 They want us to jump into their cars. 703 00:33:54,491 --> 00:33:56,034 VAN ZELLER: Yeah. I don't think that's a good idea at all. 704 00:33:56,034 --> 00:33:57,994 I don't, I don't feel comfortable jumping in the car 705 00:33:57,994 --> 00:33:59,496 with somebody that we don't know 706 00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:01,873 and where they're taking us and all that. 707 00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:03,959 I don't think that's a good idea. 708 00:34:07,921 --> 00:34:10,006 They should be around here somewhere. 709 00:34:10,006 --> 00:34:12,968 MAN: If you get any updates, Rob, call... 710 00:34:12,968 --> 00:34:14,552 VAN ZELLER: Uh, can we not talk on the, 711 00:34:14,552 --> 00:34:16,388 can we not put the walkie‐talkies up 712 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:18,139 when we're talking, guys. 713 00:34:18,139 --> 00:34:20,392 It's, like, if you want to scream undercover cops, 714 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,227 that's it. 715 00:34:23,353 --> 00:34:25,355 I'm obviously paranoid at this point. 716 00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,695 Is this them? 717 00:34:33,321 --> 00:34:35,115 Okay, so that's them, guys. 718 00:34:35,115 --> 00:34:36,992 Leave the car running. 719 00:34:36,992 --> 00:34:38,326 Wish me luck. 720 00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:51,464 Hi. How are you doing? Mariana. 721 00:34:59,431 --> 00:35:01,766 DRIVER: Okay, I'm going to need you to put all the phones in the bag, 722 00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:03,268 turn them off, and leave them on the car. 723 00:35:03,268 --> 00:35:04,686 VAN ZELLER: And leave them in the other car? 724 00:35:04,686 --> 00:35:05,937 DRIVER: Yes. 725 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:06,980 VAN ZELLER: So we can't take phones with us? 726 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:08,106 DRIVER: No. 727 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:09,149 VAN ZELLER: Can I take mine at least? 728 00:35:09,149 --> 00:35:10,442 DRIVER: No. 729 00:35:10,442 --> 00:35:12,819 VAN ZELLER: I can shut it off? DRIVER: Ah, no. 730 00:35:17,324 --> 00:35:19,200 VAN ZELLER: So a little bit of a problem is that they don't want 731 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,411 any of us to take our phones. 732 00:35:21,828 --> 00:35:24,414 So they've asked that we keep our phones here, 733 00:35:24,414 --> 00:35:26,124 which makes me a little nervous. 734 00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,461 That's not a situation like to be in at all. 735 00:35:29,461 --> 00:35:30,795 Everybody's phones. 736 00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:32,714 Are you okay? 737 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:35,383 Okay. Thanks, guys. 738 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:43,350 I'm in a car with a man I'm told is a cartel operative, 739 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:45,060 who I presumed is armed. 740 00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:48,104 He's taking me to meet a One Percenter, 741 00:35:48,104 --> 00:35:50,231 but I don't know where we're going 742 00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:53,026 or what we'll learn when we get there. 743 00:35:57,697 --> 00:36:00,367 So you're not actually the person we're going to be talking to, right? 744 00:36:00,367 --> 00:36:03,161 MAN: No. VAN ZELLER: Somebody else? MAN: Yeah. Someone else. 745 00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:07,165 Here's our buddy right here, to the right. 746 00:36:07,165 --> 00:36:09,250 VAN ZELLER: This is him? MAN: Yeah. VAN ZELLER: Oh, wow. 747 00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:11,461 So he was waiting here for us the whole time? 748 00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:12,879 MAN: Yeah. 749 00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,215 VAN ZELLER: This is apparently the biker in question, 750 00:36:15,215 --> 00:36:17,592 and he's clearly been tracking our movements. 751 00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:20,220 So do you work with the cartel? 752 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:22,013 MAN: I'm not going to say nothing. 753 00:36:22,013 --> 00:36:23,807 VAN ZELLER: Sorry, as a journalist, 754 00:36:23,807 --> 00:36:25,016 I start asking questions immediately. 755 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:26,476 MAN: Yeah. 756 00:36:40,365 --> 00:36:41,991 VAN ZELLER: Oh, it's sort of a ranch house. Yeah? 757 00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:44,369 MAN: Yes. One of many. 758 00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:47,205 VAN ZELLER: One of many you guys have around here? 759 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:49,249 MAN: Yes. 760 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,460 VAN ZELLER: Good. Okay. 761 00:36:53,753 --> 00:36:56,965 We arrived at a normal‐looking ranch house on a bit of land. 762 00:36:56,965 --> 00:36:59,217 As I get out of the car, 763 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:02,095 I'm met by a masked man with a semi‐automatic rifle. 764 00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:05,265 He directs me around the back of the house 765 00:37:05,265 --> 00:37:07,225 and that's where I find our biker. 766 00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:10,770 For his safety, we're covering his face and changing his voice. 767 00:37:11,604 --> 00:37:12,814 PANCHO: All right. 768 00:37:12,814 --> 00:37:14,065 VAN ZELLER: Okay. 769 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:15,525 Were you undecided about talking to us? 770 00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:16,901 PANCHO: I was, yeah. 771 00:37:16,901 --> 00:37:19,279 I don't really trust nobody. 772 00:37:19,279 --> 00:37:21,489 VAN ZELLER: Did you check our work or did you check me out 773 00:37:21,489 --> 00:37:22,657 to make sure that I wasn't police? 774 00:37:22,657 --> 00:37:23,825 PANCHO: Oh, yeah. 775 00:37:23,825 --> 00:37:25,410 All you guys. 776 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:27,328 VAN ZELLER: You did, all of us? PANCHO: Yes. There's a network. 777 00:37:27,328 --> 00:37:29,497 VAN ZELLER: Of bikers? PANCHO: Yes. 778 00:37:29,497 --> 00:37:33,376 Trust me, any information that we need from anybody is there. 779 00:37:34,419 --> 00:37:36,546 VAN ZELLER: Can I ask you what club you belong to? 780 00:37:36,546 --> 00:37:39,215 PANCHO: You could ask me all day, but I'm not going to say. 781 00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:43,052 VAN ZELLER: But it's, would you say that it's a well‐known one? 782 00:37:43,052 --> 00:37:45,346 PANCHO: Oh, yeah. It's a well‐known one. Yeah. 783 00:37:45,346 --> 00:37:48,016 VAN ZELLER: I, I was told that you were part of the (bleep)? 784 00:37:48,016 --> 00:37:49,851 PANCHO: Again, I don't want to say. 785 00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:51,436 You know, I can't expose myself 786 00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:54,105 because this is a serious business. 787 00:37:54,981 --> 00:37:56,733 VAN ZELLER: What would happen if they found out 788 00:37:56,733 --> 00:37:58,860 that you were talking to me? 789 00:37:58,860 --> 00:38:01,112 PANCHO: I would probably get killed. 790 00:38:01,863 --> 00:38:04,783 All these (bleep), they, they'll hurt you, 791 00:38:04,783 --> 00:38:06,493 they'll hurt you when they have to. 792 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,828 VAN ZELLER: They or you? 793 00:38:08,828 --> 00:38:10,830 PANCHO: Everybody. 794 00:38:10,830 --> 00:38:12,874 Every last one of them. 795 00:38:12,874 --> 00:38:14,876 VAN ZELLER: Do you carry a gun with you? 796 00:38:14,876 --> 00:38:16,669 PANCHO: All the time. 797 00:38:16,669 --> 00:38:18,713 VAN ZELLER: Do you have it right now? 798 00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:24,427 So you still don't trust me? 799 00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:27,138 PANCHO: I don't trust nobody. 800 00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:28,515 VAN ZELLER: Why did you agree to do this interview? 801 00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:30,141 And I'm going give you the gun back. 802 00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:32,852 PANCHO: 'Cause I don't give a (bleep) about nothing. 803 00:38:34,062 --> 00:38:35,396 VAN ZELLER: So what, what would you say then 804 00:38:35,396 --> 00:38:38,024 is the major business of the club that you're, 805 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:39,776 that you belong to? 806 00:38:39,776 --> 00:38:41,611 PANCHO: Narcotics. 807 00:38:41,611 --> 00:38:44,072 VAN ZELLER: Finally, after months of trying, 808 00:38:44,072 --> 00:38:46,324 I find a biker who's willing to talk about 809 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:48,368 what no one other One Percenter would, 810 00:38:49,118 --> 00:38:52,497 the criminal side of motorcycle clubs. 811 00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,384 ♪ ♪ 812 00:39:04,384 --> 00:39:06,177 VAN ZELLER: What, what drugs are we talking about? 813 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:11,224 PANCHO: Oh, it's everything from weed, cocaine, glass, heroin. 814 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,477 You name it, we do it all. 815 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:19,023 There's a bunch of, bunch of guys that just love to ride 816 00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,192 and want to be part of the club. 817 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:25,446 And there's others like myself that love to get money 818 00:39:25,446 --> 00:39:27,240 and love that life. 819 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,616 And that's what we do. 820 00:39:29,117 --> 00:39:31,035 VAN ZELLER: How much money do you make? 821 00:39:31,035 --> 00:39:32,871 PANCHO: A lot. 822 00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:36,124 VAN ZELLER: I push for details about their operation and how they 823 00:39:36,124 --> 00:39:40,545 work with the Mexican cartels. 824 00:39:40,545 --> 00:39:42,755 So, it's sort of a working farm here? 825 00:39:42,755 --> 00:39:46,175 DAMIEN: Yes. This is where we started. 826 00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:52,724 VAN ZELLER: The property is both a marijuana grow and a stash house 827 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:55,018 for whatever else might pass through. 828 00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:59,564 This man oversees the operation for his cartel bosses, 829 00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:01,107 south of the border. 830 00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:03,860 These are getting ready to be harvested? 831 00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:07,906 DAMIEN: Yes. Three more weeks. VAN ZELLER: Three more weeks? DAMIEN: Yes. 832 00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:10,825 VAN ZELLER: So, you work with these guys a lot? 833 00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:12,452 PANCHO: I do, yeah. 834 00:40:12,452 --> 00:40:14,454 Myself and my people. 835 00:40:15,163 --> 00:40:17,916 VAN ZELLER: They do the production side and you guys do the transporting? 836 00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:19,709 PANCHO: Yeah. 837 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:24,547 DAMIEN: This is where we pack it, where we trim it, 838 00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,760 where we weigh it. 839 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,720 VAN ZELLER: Wow, the smell is super, super strong here. 840 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,513 So this is the flower that's been harvested already? 841 00:40:32,513 --> 00:40:35,475 DAMIEN: Correct. VAN ZELLER: Trimmed? DAMIEN: Yes. 842 00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:39,020 VAN ZELLER: Ooh, it smells good. 843 00:40:39,812 --> 00:40:41,522 I don't think most people know that you guys 844 00:40:41,522 --> 00:40:43,107 are running an operation like this. 845 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,777 Just right here, out in Southern California. 846 00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:47,862 DAMIEN: This is just us, but there's a lot more. 847 00:40:51,199 --> 00:40:54,410 PANCHO: I've got a network of guys that get the merchandise 848 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:58,998 from these gentlemen and we distribute it throughout the US. 849 00:41:01,167 --> 00:41:03,586 VAN ZELLER: Where do these drugs go to usually? 850 00:41:03,586 --> 00:41:05,296 DAMIEN: Most of it goes on the street. 851 00:41:05,296 --> 00:41:07,590 A lot of it goes to the different states. 852 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,592 The further, the more expensive it is. 853 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,929 PANCHO: There's plugs everywhere. 854 00:41:14,347 --> 00:41:16,724 VAN ZELLER: Why do you guys like to work with the bikers? 855 00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:18,893 DAMIEN: Like, they're not afraid of the cops, you know? 856 00:41:18,893 --> 00:41:21,145 They're ruthless pretty much. 857 00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:23,898 VAN ZELLER: Yes, even the Mexican cartels 858 00:41:23,898 --> 00:41:26,567 think One Percenters are ruthless. 859 00:41:26,567 --> 00:41:29,112 Does the club leaders know that you do this 860 00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:30,488 and that the members of the club do this? 861 00:41:30,488 --> 00:41:31,698 PANCHO: Yes. 862 00:41:31,698 --> 00:41:32,740 VAN ZELLER: Do they make a cut out of it? 863 00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:34,033 PANCHO: Of course, yeah. 864 00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:35,201 VAN ZELLER: Do they make good money? 865 00:41:35,201 --> 00:41:37,537 PANCHO: Everybody eats. 866 00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:41,249 There's shot callers and there's people underneath. 867 00:41:41,833 --> 00:41:45,461 They move other people, and so on, and so on. 868 00:41:46,587 --> 00:41:49,173 That's how you take care of your family and live the good life. 869 00:41:50,049 --> 00:41:53,094 Even if it's in this, doing this dirty (bleep). 870 00:41:55,805 --> 00:41:57,598 VAN ZELLER: It does make sense, 871 00:41:57,598 --> 00:42:00,560 what better business partners for Mexican narco traffickers 872 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,897 than loyal, tight‐lipped, road trip‐loving American outlaws 873 00:42:06,399 --> 00:42:09,235 with local chapters crisscrossing a country 874 00:42:09,235 --> 00:42:14,157 that spends nearly $150 billion a year on illegal drugs? 875 00:42:15,742 --> 00:42:17,577 (gunshots) 876 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:20,913 I'm not saying every One Percenter is involved, 877 00:42:20,913 --> 00:42:23,458 but wherever serious cash is being made, 878 00:42:23,458 --> 00:42:25,460 serious trouble follows. 879 00:42:25,918 --> 00:42:27,962 Why is there so much hatred between clubs? 880 00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:30,965 PANCHO: It's, it goes deep. It goes deep. 881 00:42:30,965 --> 00:42:33,092 VAN ZELLER: Is it a territory thing? 882 00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,595 I mean, the fact that you're, assuming that you're controlling 883 00:42:35,595 --> 00:42:37,805 the trafficking happening in this area. 884 00:42:37,805 --> 00:42:39,932 PANCHO: It's all about territory. 885 00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:41,809 That's all it is. 886 00:42:41,809 --> 00:42:44,020 You got to stick with your brothers. 887 00:42:44,312 --> 00:42:46,439 And if they say, "Let's go to war," 888 00:42:46,439 --> 00:42:48,649 we're going to go to war. 889 00:42:49,025 --> 00:42:50,651 VAN ZELLER: To go to war, 890 00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:51,944 meaning you'd have to kill other people, you would do that? 891 00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:54,572 PANCHO: Whatever it takes. 892 00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:02,580 KOZLOWSKI: A lot of organizations in the criminal world 893 00:43:02,580 --> 00:43:06,000 don't advertise in the open who they are. 894 00:43:06,751 --> 00:43:08,586 Motorcycle gangs do. 895 00:43:08,586 --> 00:43:13,091 Even a part of me felt empowered when I got fully patched. 896 00:43:13,091 --> 00:43:16,761 You get that sense that you have power. 897 00:43:19,514 --> 00:43:23,559 VAN ZELLER: Most outlaws I've met live in the shadows, 898 00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:25,728 but not these guys. 899 00:43:26,771 --> 00:43:29,524 They're bold enough to tell us exactly who they are. 900 00:43:31,275 --> 00:43:34,487 VAN ZELLER: And dare us to do something about it. 901 00:43:35,363 --> 00:43:38,074 PANCHO: It's just dangerous (bleep). 902 00:43:38,074 --> 00:43:40,118 You could die at any given time. 903 00:43:40,118 --> 00:43:41,994 For any given reason. 904 00:43:42,829 --> 00:43:44,622 VAN ZELLER: Do you think you'll continue doing it? 905 00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:47,583 PANCHO: I've been doing it (bleep) my life. 906 00:43:47,583 --> 00:43:50,336 I'll do it until I'm laid in the casket. 907 00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:56,259 (engines revving) 908 00:43:56,634 --> 00:43:58,261 Captioned by Cotter Media Group.