1 00:02:18,931 --> 00:02:20,332 No, I'm serious. 2 00:02:20,365 --> 00:02:22,068 Can't let them win. 3 00:02:22,101 --> 00:02:23,602 - Okay. - Don't worry about it. 4 00:02:24,203 --> 00:02:26,939 Why don't you go watch TV, okay? 5 00:02:26,973 --> 00:02:28,007 - Yeah. - Just relax, go. 6 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:29,709 - I'll see you for dinner. - Okay. 7 00:02:43,756 --> 00:02:45,792 Second down and nine play action. 8 00:02:45,825 --> 00:02:47,660 Morgan gonna crank up and throw it deep. 9 00:02:47,693 --> 00:02:49,729 Got a man streaking out there. 10 00:02:49,762 --> 00:02:53,065 And it is intercepted at the 31 yard line. 11 00:03:36,608 --> 00:03:39,912 Next time, Pat, knock before you come in. 12 00:03:44,516 --> 00:03:45,685 Going for the end zone. 13 00:03:45,718 --> 00:03:47,119 Touchdown Tulane! 14 00:04:13,779 --> 00:04:14,981 Plus nine and turnover margin 15 00:04:15,014 --> 00:04:18,117 a year ago, had 17 interceptions. 16 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:21,754 As we update you on the American conference scoreboard. 17 00:04:25,157 --> 00:04:26,859 There he goes off to the races, 18 00:04:26,893 --> 00:04:28,593 sprints down the sideline... 19 00:04:37,236 --> 00:04:38,804 Um, you scared me. 20 00:04:40,172 --> 00:04:40,907 Where is everyone? 21 00:04:41,874 --> 00:04:42,708 They're here. 22 00:04:44,877 --> 00:04:45,745 Where's Mom? 23 00:04:49,248 --> 00:04:50,182 She's over there. 24 00:05:13,773 --> 00:05:15,473 Dear Pastor Revingol, 25 00:05:16,608 --> 00:05:19,845 I'm very sorry to add this additional burden to your work. 26 00:05:20,947 --> 00:05:24,717 I left myself in the hands of God's justice and mercy, 27 00:05:25,184 --> 00:05:28,020 but apparently he saw fit to ignore my prayers. 28 00:05:29,722 --> 00:05:30,923 What I have done is for the best, 29 00:05:30,957 --> 00:05:33,491 as far as the children's souls are concerned. 30 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:35,695 I know that many will look 31 00:05:35,728 --> 00:05:38,197 at the additional years they could've lived, 32 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:40,967 but if they were no longer servants of God, 33 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,201 what would be gained? 34 00:05:44,103 --> 00:05:45,570 I'm sure many will say 35 00:05:45,603 --> 00:05:48,040 "How could anyone do such a horrible thing?" 36 00:05:49,275 --> 00:05:52,244 My only answer is "it wasn't easy." 37 00:05:53,611 --> 00:05:55,748 This was only done after much thought. 38 00:05:57,149 --> 00:06:00,052 If we were just dealing with one issue alone, 39 00:06:00,086 --> 00:06:01,654 we may have pulled through. 40 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:06,759 But considering everything, it was all just too much. 41 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,863 At least I'm certain that all of them are in heaven now. 42 00:06:11,897 --> 00:06:15,067 I know that nothing I can say will make it right, 43 00:06:15,101 --> 00:06:17,236 but I am assured of making peace with God 44 00:06:17,269 --> 00:06:19,972 because of Christ's sacrifice. 45 00:06:20,006 --> 00:06:21,606 Even for people like me. 46 00:06:22,607 --> 00:06:24,677 Kind regards, John. 47 00:06:25,911 --> 00:06:30,182 P.S. Mother is in the bedroom upstairs. 48 00:06:30,216 --> 00:06:31,817 She was too heavy to move. 49 00:10:33,459 --> 00:10:34,827 Steph, what are you doin'? 50 00:10:35,194 --> 00:10:36,362 You're supposed to be resting. 51 00:10:36,395 --> 00:10:37,396 I'm bored up there. 52 00:10:38,130 --> 00:10:39,565 Steph, it's only been three days. 53 00:10:39,598 --> 00:10:41,500 You're gonna be resting for six weeks. 54 00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:44,103 If I don't lose my mind before then. 55 00:10:47,139 --> 00:10:48,474 I got it, Dad, it's fine. 56 00:10:49,875 --> 00:10:52,344 All right, um, do you want some eggs? 57 00:10:53,212 --> 00:10:54,146 No, I'll have cereal. 58 00:10:55,514 --> 00:10:57,816 Cereal, okay... 59 00:10:57,850 --> 00:10:59,418 - I can get it. - No, it's all right. 60 00:10:59,451 --> 00:11:01,086 You... yeah. 61 00:11:01,287 --> 00:11:02,021 Um. 62 00:11:06,925 --> 00:11:07,926 Spoon. 63 00:11:11,497 --> 00:11:12,498 Thank you. 64 00:11:15,901 --> 00:11:16,935 Shit, uh... 65 00:11:19,571 --> 00:11:20,906 So you're bored, huh? 66 00:11:22,474 --> 00:11:24,310 That's an understatement. 67 00:11:24,343 --> 00:11:25,177 Yeah. 68 00:11:26,879 --> 00:11:28,080 I know it's tough. 69 00:11:31,317 --> 00:11:32,151 But, uh... 70 00:11:34,153 --> 00:11:36,055 Remember what your mother used to say. 71 00:11:40,192 --> 00:11:41,560 Everything happens for a reason. 72 00:11:49,435 --> 00:11:53,272 Well I gotta go to work soon, but if you need anything... 73 00:11:53,305 --> 00:11:54,973 I'll be okay. 74 00:11:55,007 --> 00:11:56,975 Danny and Melissa are coming over later. 75 00:11:59,011 --> 00:11:59,611 Oh. 76 00:12:02,548 --> 00:12:06,452 Um, look, I gotta go to work. 77 00:12:06,485 --> 00:12:10,322 Look, you have the eggs, all right? 78 00:12:11,523 --> 00:12:13,492 Here, eat that. Alright? 79 00:12:13,525 --> 00:12:14,526 I gotta go. I gotta go. 80 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:15,461 Ok. 81 00:12:15,494 --> 00:12:16,962 Talk to you later. 82 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:19,098 Bye sweetie. 83 00:12:44,523 --> 00:12:47,459 ♪ In my heart ♪ 84 00:12:51,964 --> 00:12:54,199 Bob, breakfast ready! 85 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,295 America needs a tidal wave 86 00:13:23,328 --> 00:13:25,397 of the old-time religion. 87 00:13:25,431 --> 00:13:27,700 America needs to be taken down to God's bath house 88 00:13:27,734 --> 00:13:30,269 and the hose turned on her, 89 00:13:30,302 --> 00:13:32,137 and the time isn't far distant 90 00:13:32,171 --> 00:13:33,338 when the wheels of God's judgment 91 00:13:33,372 --> 00:13:37,242 are going to go sweeping through this old God-hating world. 92 00:13:37,276 --> 00:13:38,410 I want to take a pledge 93 00:13:38,444 --> 00:13:40,713 and this audience to join me in a pledge 94 00:13:40,747 --> 00:13:44,116 that you will never rest until this old God-hating, 95 00:13:44,149 --> 00:13:47,085 Christ-hating, whisky-soaked, Sabbath-breaking, 96 00:13:47,119 --> 00:13:51,023 blaspheming, infidel, bootlegging old world 97 00:13:51,056 --> 00:13:53,158 is bound to the cross of Jesus Christ 98 00:13:53,192 --> 00:13:55,160 by the golden chains of love. 99 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:13,111 - Thanks, honey. - You're welcome. 100 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:22,689 Bless us, O Lord, as we give thanks 101 00:14:22,722 --> 00:14:25,390 for these gifts from Thy bounty. 102 00:14:25,424 --> 00:14:26,391 - Amen. 103 00:14:49,548 --> 00:14:50,415 What the hell did you do all day? 104 00:14:50,449 --> 00:14:51,651 Just watch TV? 105 00:14:52,017 --> 00:14:53,452 I got so bored of that 106 00:14:53,485 --> 00:14:56,555 I actually started watching the neighbors. 107 00:14:56,588 --> 00:14:59,491 I never knew you were into voyeurism. 108 00:14:59,525 --> 00:15:01,393 - Good to know. - Not like that. 109 00:15:02,528 --> 00:15:03,730 If you watch people for long enough, 110 00:15:03,763 --> 00:15:07,533 you realize their lives run like clockwork. 111 00:15:07,566 --> 00:15:09,736 They leave the house the same time every morning, 112 00:15:09,769 --> 00:15:12,204 mow the lawn every Saturday. 113 00:15:12,237 --> 00:15:14,406 Such a routine existence. 114 00:15:14,439 --> 00:15:15,775 Housebound for less than a week, 115 00:15:15,808 --> 00:15:18,477 and you're already having an existential crisis. 116 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:19,812 Maybe I am. 117 00:15:19,846 --> 00:15:22,481 Don't the neighbors ever do anything exciting? 118 00:15:22,514 --> 00:15:24,149 I wouldn't say exciting. 119 00:15:24,182 --> 00:15:26,251 Sometimes they do stuff that's kind of funny. 120 00:15:26,285 --> 00:15:27,419 Like what? 121 00:15:27,452 --> 00:15:29,421 Like poor Mrs. Corbits at number 11 122 00:15:29,454 --> 00:15:31,791 looks like she's having a party every night. 123 00:15:31,824 --> 00:15:34,459 Lights keep flashing on and off the whole time. 124 00:15:34,493 --> 00:15:36,128 Then I realized what was going on. 125 00:15:36,161 --> 00:15:38,665 They have one of those clap-on clap-off lights installed. 126 00:15:39,032 --> 00:15:40,232 Oh yeah, "The Clapper." 127 00:15:40,265 --> 00:15:41,433 I've seen that on TV. 128 00:15:42,001 --> 00:15:43,770 Why would she be clapping constantly? 129 00:15:44,469 --> 00:15:48,140 I wondered that, then my Dad told me she has Tourette's. 130 00:15:49,608 --> 00:15:54,313 Wait, so you're telling that the lights go on and off 131 00:15:54,346 --> 00:15:55,715 when you say fuck too? 132 00:15:55,748 --> 00:15:58,317 No, Tourette's doesn't just cause cursing. 133 00:15:58,350 --> 00:16:00,452 You get physical tics. 134 00:16:00,485 --> 00:16:03,455 One of Mrs. Corbits' tics is that she slaps her leg, 135 00:16:03,488 --> 00:16:06,224 so every time she does that, the lights go off, 136 00:16:06,258 --> 00:16:08,560 so she has to clap to get them back on again. 137 00:16:12,297 --> 00:16:13,265 - Guys, it's not funny. - Yes it is! 138 00:16:13,298 --> 00:16:15,868 - It's a serious condition. - That's terrible! 139 00:16:17,603 --> 00:16:19,806 Also it's creepy you're just watching her. 140 00:16:22,541 --> 00:16:23,542 It's a little funny. 141 00:16:30,349 --> 00:16:32,584 It's been 18 years. 142 00:16:32,618 --> 00:16:35,287 No one can say that we haven't given this ample time. 143 00:16:36,656 --> 00:16:39,626 Let's give back the task force to you and Wayne Harris. 144 00:16:39,659 --> 00:16:43,462 Now Wayne is retired, it's time you closed this chapter too. 145 00:16:44,631 --> 00:16:46,465 I can't justify any more manpower 146 00:16:46,498 --> 00:16:48,533 on a case that's colder than Alaska. 147 00:16:48,567 --> 00:16:51,804 So what do you suggest I do, sir? 148 00:16:51,838 --> 00:16:54,606 Stop taking this case so personally, move on. 149 00:16:55,407 --> 00:16:58,510 If you've seen what he did to that family, 150 00:16:58,543 --> 00:17:00,545 what he done to those kids... 151 00:17:00,579 --> 00:17:02,447 Listen, you got a lotta cases 152 00:17:02,481 --> 00:17:04,884 in the "win" column over the years. 153 00:17:04,917 --> 00:17:07,319 This is a rare one that got away from you. 154 00:17:07,352 --> 00:17:08,487 You gotta accept that. 155 00:17:09,689 --> 00:17:10,923 It's time to let it go. 156 00:17:20,499 --> 00:17:22,334 He's got a point. 157 00:17:22,367 --> 00:17:24,671 You took that case too personally. 158 00:17:24,704 --> 00:17:26,204 Come on, Wayne. 159 00:17:26,238 --> 00:17:28,607 We worked our asses off, and he still got away. 160 00:17:29,374 --> 00:17:31,510 Motherfucker made a fool out of all of us. 161 00:17:32,244 --> 00:17:34,513 Is that what really stings, Frank? 162 00:17:34,546 --> 00:17:35,948 That your ego took a dent? 163 00:17:39,251 --> 00:17:40,252 Well maybe it did. 164 00:17:41,286 --> 00:17:43,588 Come on, you saw the crime scene. 165 00:17:43,622 --> 00:17:46,959 A guy could do that to his own blood, running free? 166 00:17:48,593 --> 00:17:50,663 I take it you're not gonna heed the Chief's advice. 167 00:17:50,697 --> 00:17:51,731 No. 168 00:17:51,764 --> 00:17:54,433 But now he's pulled the plug I gotta go it alone. 169 00:17:54,466 --> 00:17:56,601 The first thing's the press. 170 00:17:56,636 --> 00:18:00,605 Nationally syndicated magazines, newspapers. 171 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,506 Maybe I can get someone 172 00:18:01,540 --> 00:18:02,742 interested in doing a follow-up story. 173 00:18:03,142 --> 00:18:04,944 Nearly 20 years later? 174 00:18:04,977 --> 00:18:06,378 Come on, Frank. 175 00:18:07,379 --> 00:18:09,649 We don't even know if he's still in the country. 176 00:18:09,682 --> 00:18:11,550 - He is. - How can you be so sure? 177 00:18:13,385 --> 00:18:14,721 Everybody we spoke to about List 178 00:18:14,754 --> 00:18:17,824 told us he was a cheerleader for the American dream. 179 00:18:18,157 --> 00:18:21,426 Marriage, suburbia, church. 180 00:18:21,460 --> 00:18:23,395 He lived for that shit. 181 00:18:23,428 --> 00:18:27,532 And nobody has Christian family values like Uncle Sam. 182 00:19:56,789 --> 00:19:57,622 Yeah? 183 00:20:08,768 --> 00:20:09,601 Thank you. 184 00:20:11,871 --> 00:20:14,573 Never realized the neighbors were so interesting. 185 00:20:16,042 --> 00:20:18,744 Look over there, the garden of number 10. 186 00:20:24,016 --> 00:20:26,018 What am I supposed to be looking at here? 187 00:20:26,052 --> 00:20:27,787 There's a guy mowing his lawn. 188 00:20:27,820 --> 00:20:28,721 Yeah, in a suit. 189 00:20:28,754 --> 00:20:30,890 Who mows their lawn in a shirt and tie? 190 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:33,558 It's a little weird, I guess. 191 00:20:34,694 --> 00:20:36,361 Do you know much about that guy? 192 00:20:37,930 --> 00:20:38,731 Bob Clark? 193 00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:41,734 We said hello from time to time. 194 00:20:42,869 --> 00:20:44,569 Can't say I've spoken to him much. 195 00:20:45,604 --> 00:20:48,741 I've had a few conversations with his wife, Dolores. 196 00:20:48,774 --> 00:20:49,876 She seems nice. 197 00:20:50,408 --> 00:20:51,610 I've never really noticed him before, 198 00:20:51,644 --> 00:20:55,715 but last night, he was watching me from the upstairs window. 199 00:20:56,883 --> 00:20:58,150 Really? 200 00:20:58,184 --> 00:21:00,019 Yeah, it was kinda creepy. 201 00:21:02,554 --> 00:21:04,156 You weren't lookin' through 202 00:21:04,190 --> 00:21:06,659 the binoculars at the time, were you? 203 00:21:07,927 --> 00:21:08,761 I might've been. 204 00:21:10,730 --> 00:21:11,864 Oh Christ, Steph. 205 00:21:13,132 --> 00:21:14,499 You really need to find something better 206 00:21:14,532 --> 00:21:15,600 to do with your time. 207 00:21:18,638 --> 00:21:20,605 Why don't you read a book or somethin'? 208 00:21:40,893 --> 00:21:42,560 After the murders, 209 00:21:42,594 --> 00:21:44,730 List cut himself out of every photograph in the house. 210 00:21:45,331 --> 00:21:46,332 We discovered he'd lost his job 211 00:21:46,365 --> 00:21:48,768 at the Jersey City Bank a few weeks before. 212 00:21:49,635 --> 00:21:50,468 We're pretty sure he never shared 213 00:21:50,502 --> 00:21:51,469 this information with his family. 214 00:21:51,503 --> 00:21:53,471 He'd skim money from his mother's bank account 215 00:21:53,505 --> 00:21:55,808 to avoid defaulting on the mortgage. 216 00:21:55,841 --> 00:21:57,944 He emptied what was left on the day of the killings 217 00:21:57,977 --> 00:21:59,879 and that's what he used to relocate. 218 00:22:57,670 --> 00:22:59,305 Good evening. 219 00:22:59,338 --> 00:23:00,873 In view of the difficult events 220 00:23:00,906 --> 00:23:02,008 that we cover here on this show, 221 00:23:02,041 --> 00:23:05,878 I'm delighted to start tonight with some positive news. 222 00:23:05,911 --> 00:23:09,081 Rapist and murderer David James Roberts 223 00:23:09,115 --> 00:23:13,085 is behind bars because of you, the viewers. 224 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,988 Our regulars will remember that we profiled Roberts 225 00:23:16,022 --> 00:23:17,223 on the show last week, 226 00:23:17,256 --> 00:23:20,659 and he's considered one of America's most wanted criminals. 227 00:23:21,894 --> 00:23:24,797 Roberts murdered a man by the name of Bill Patrick, 228 00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:27,666 his wife, and their child. 229 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:31,103 He also raped the mother and killed her six month old son. 230 00:23:41,947 --> 00:23:43,282 - Yeah? - Frank? 231 00:23:45,017 --> 00:23:45,918 Turn on channel five. 232 00:23:51,023 --> 00:23:52,624 For two years... 233 00:23:53,859 --> 00:23:55,795 What am I looking at? 234 00:23:55,828 --> 00:23:57,997 It's a new TV show. 235 00:23:58,030 --> 00:23:58,964 They profile fugitives on the run 236 00:23:58,998 --> 00:24:00,966 and then ask viewers to call in with tips. 237 00:24:03,202 --> 00:24:04,804 This shit actually works? 238 00:24:04,837 --> 00:24:07,039 The host said some guy on the run for two years 239 00:24:07,073 --> 00:24:09,775 was arrested after 75 callers identified him. 240 00:24:12,645 --> 00:24:14,146 Well, all right. 241 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:15,881 Let me check it out, I'll give you a call back. 242 00:24:16,415 --> 00:24:17,149 Okay. 243 00:24:20,086 --> 00:24:22,121 He's been called the Green River Killer 244 00:24:22,154 --> 00:24:24,690 ever since the first bodies, five of them, 245 00:24:24,723 --> 00:24:25,925 were pulled from this river. 246 00:25:10,236 --> 00:25:11,937 What are you doing in our house? 247 00:25:13,005 --> 00:25:16,809 Um, Steph, this is Mr. Clark. 248 00:25:16,842 --> 00:25:19,178 He's come over to apologize. 249 00:25:19,211 --> 00:25:20,980 I startled her again. 250 00:25:21,013 --> 00:25:23,249 I seem to be making a habit of that today. 251 00:25:24,116 --> 00:25:25,417 Stephanie, I'm Bob. 252 00:25:28,888 --> 00:25:30,656 Feel I owe you an explanation. 253 00:25:31,557 --> 00:25:34,093 Mrs. Atherton next door goes to my church. 254 00:25:34,126 --> 00:25:35,027 She mentioned on Sunday 255 00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:37,463 that she had some vermin on her property, 256 00:25:37,496 --> 00:25:39,131 so I offered to get rid of it for her. 257 00:25:39,465 --> 00:25:40,432 With a gun? 258 00:25:40,466 --> 00:25:42,768 Isn't that a little excessive? 259 00:25:42,801 --> 00:25:45,404 So focused on trying to do a good deed for a neighbor, 260 00:25:45,437 --> 00:25:48,140 and it just didn't occur to me. 261 00:25:49,508 --> 00:25:51,911 But afterwards, when I saw you, 262 00:25:51,944 --> 00:25:54,079 I realized how scary it may have been. 263 00:25:56,048 --> 00:25:58,684 The last thing I wanna do is frighten a neighbor. 264 00:26:03,088 --> 00:26:04,089 Goddamn rats! 265 00:26:10,095 --> 00:26:12,498 Well, Bob, I really appreciate 266 00:26:12,531 --> 00:26:15,701 you comin' over to address this. 267 00:26:17,136 --> 00:26:19,405 I just hope that Stephanie will accept my apology. 268 00:26:22,341 --> 00:26:23,175 Yeah, sure. 269 00:26:26,111 --> 00:26:27,179 Bless your heart. 270 00:26:28,214 --> 00:26:30,816 As it says in Ephesians 4:31, 271 00:26:30,849 --> 00:26:34,053 "Be kind and compassionate, forgiving each other 272 00:26:34,086 --> 00:26:37,156 "just as through Christ, God forgave you." 273 00:26:42,428 --> 00:26:45,097 Anyway, I've taken up too much of your time already. 274 00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:47,499 Thank you both for your hospitality. 275 00:26:49,268 --> 00:26:52,037 Hopefully we'll be seeing more of each other in the future. 276 00:26:58,210 --> 00:27:00,379 Yeah, well, um... 277 00:27:00,412 --> 00:27:03,782 Thanks again Bob for comin' over to... 278 00:27:04,917 --> 00:27:08,053 Yeah, address that, I'll see you out to the front door. 279 00:27:17,296 --> 00:27:19,098 A Bible-basher with a gun! 280 00:27:19,131 --> 00:27:21,066 God, I love this country. 281 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,034 Look. 282 00:27:24,203 --> 00:27:25,337 What's this? 283 00:27:25,371 --> 00:27:29,108 Some guy in New Jersey killed his family 18 years ago. 284 00:27:32,511 --> 00:27:34,413 Light reading, huh, Steph? 285 00:27:34,748 --> 00:27:37,883 This guy looks just like Bob Clark. 286 00:27:41,053 --> 00:27:43,188 Oh, Steph. 287 00:27:43,222 --> 00:27:44,990 Check out the eyes, it's him! 288 00:27:46,425 --> 00:27:50,863 Look kinda similar, but I don't think it's the same guy. 289 00:27:52,998 --> 00:27:56,135 You'll at least admit he's a total weirdo though, right? 290 00:27:56,168 --> 00:27:58,003 Well, I felt we were two seconds away 291 00:27:58,037 --> 00:27:59,204 from him selling us a watchtower, 292 00:27:59,238 --> 00:28:00,472 but that hardly qualifies him 293 00:28:00,506 --> 00:28:04,543 as somebody who would murder his own family! 294 00:28:04,576 --> 00:28:06,545 Dad, that's him. 295 00:28:06,578 --> 00:28:09,248 Steph, oh Steph! 296 00:28:10,449 --> 00:28:12,451 Why can't you read somethin' else? 297 00:28:17,289 --> 00:28:18,891 I've never seen the guy before. 298 00:28:18,924 --> 00:28:20,893 How am I supposed to know if that's him? 299 00:28:25,297 --> 00:28:27,599 Oh my God, you're taking pictures of him too? 300 00:28:27,634 --> 00:28:29,201 Stalking much? 301 00:28:29,234 --> 00:28:31,570 Well this isn't helping, Steph! 302 00:28:31,603 --> 00:28:33,572 Looks like you took these from space. 303 00:28:33,605 --> 00:28:35,207 Yeah, I couldn't exactly go up to him 304 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,309 and ask for a close-up, could I? 305 00:28:38,010 --> 00:28:39,978 You gonna call the cops, Steph? 306 00:28:40,012 --> 00:28:42,848 Not yet, I need some actual proof that it is him. 307 00:28:44,016 --> 00:28:45,351 How do you plan to get that? 308 00:28:45,384 --> 00:28:47,986 Not sure yet, but I'll think of something. 309 00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:52,524 All right, well I gotta head to practice. 310 00:28:52,558 --> 00:28:53,258 I'll see you tomorrow. 311 00:28:54,093 --> 00:28:54,893 'Kay. 312 00:28:55,561 --> 00:28:56,228 See ya. 313 00:29:02,334 --> 00:29:04,103 Hey, can you hand me that pencil? 314 00:29:05,437 --> 00:29:06,271 Sure. 315 00:29:10,275 --> 00:29:11,310 Oh my God, that's good. 316 00:29:12,344 --> 00:29:13,178 Ugh. 317 00:29:21,654 --> 00:29:24,123 Oh, hey Mr. Hancock. 318 00:29:24,156 --> 00:29:26,325 Hey Danny, how's it goin'? 319 00:29:27,292 --> 00:29:28,193 Not bad. 320 00:29:33,298 --> 00:29:35,601 You still workin' at the pizza parlor? 321 00:29:35,635 --> 00:29:36,468 Yep. 322 00:29:38,671 --> 00:29:42,508 How's the football going? 323 00:29:42,541 --> 00:29:44,143 Pretty good actually. 324 00:29:45,077 --> 00:29:47,246 We're third in the state at the minute, so... 325 00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:49,281 Yeah. 326 00:29:51,316 --> 00:29:53,352 You plannin' on makin' a livin' from that? 327 00:29:55,354 --> 00:29:59,659 Well, I play for the love of it, to be honest with you. 328 00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:02,394 But there's some big-league scouts 329 00:30:02,428 --> 00:30:05,564 who come from time to time, so you never know! 330 00:30:17,276 --> 00:30:18,143 Reassuring. 331 00:30:20,112 --> 00:30:20,914 Thanks. 332 00:30:30,055 --> 00:30:31,123 I wanna be left alone! 333 00:30:32,024 --> 00:30:33,626 Can't they leave me alone? 334 00:30:57,416 --> 00:31:00,052 I just wanna be left alone. 335 00:31:00,085 --> 00:31:01,320 Can they leave me alone? 336 00:31:02,054 --> 00:31:03,723 Why don't they just leave me alone? 337 00:31:18,237 --> 00:31:20,339 You are gonna keep it together. 338 00:31:20,372 --> 00:31:21,340 You hear me? 339 00:31:30,717 --> 00:31:33,285 More bodies have been discovered nearby, 340 00:31:33,318 --> 00:31:35,087 all those of young prostitutes... 341 00:31:35,287 --> 00:31:38,023 Look Bob, what do you think? 342 00:31:39,491 --> 00:31:40,425 New dress? 343 00:31:40,459 --> 00:31:42,427 Yeah, isn't it beautiful? 344 00:31:43,595 --> 00:31:45,163 How much did it cost? 345 00:31:45,197 --> 00:31:47,399 I got it on sale for 30 bucks. 346 00:31:48,367 --> 00:31:49,368 That's a little steep. 347 00:31:51,638 --> 00:31:53,472 Is this for the church benefit? 348 00:31:53,505 --> 00:31:54,306 Yeah. 349 00:31:55,407 --> 00:31:56,743 It's a little figure-hugging. 350 00:31:58,477 --> 00:32:00,512 Don't I have a nice figure? 351 00:32:00,546 --> 00:32:02,514 But is it appropriate for the pastor 352 00:32:02,548 --> 00:32:03,750 and congregation to see it? 353 00:32:05,785 --> 00:32:08,620 I don't think it's inappropriate. 354 00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:10,489 I think I look nice. 355 00:32:23,736 --> 00:32:26,538 You know I love you, don't you? 356 00:32:26,572 --> 00:32:27,406 Yes. 357 00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:29,742 Do you love me? 358 00:32:30,576 --> 00:32:31,844 Of course I do. 359 00:32:33,445 --> 00:32:36,816 Then please respect my wishes. 360 00:32:37,784 --> 00:32:41,153 Find a more modest dress for the benefit, okay? 361 00:32:46,491 --> 00:32:47,292 Fine. 362 00:32:47,894 --> 00:32:48,861 Thank you. 363 00:32:58,738 --> 00:33:00,372 What was he doing? 364 00:33:00,405 --> 00:33:02,809 I dunno, he was kinda freaking out. 365 00:33:02,842 --> 00:33:06,511 He was pacing back and forth, agitated as hell. 366 00:33:06,545 --> 00:33:08,380 Then he threw a magazine across the room. 367 00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:09,247 That magazine? 368 00:33:10,349 --> 00:33:11,583 I dunno, I couldn't really see it. 369 00:33:11,617 --> 00:33:14,787 But he seemed pretty mad about it. 370 00:33:15,253 --> 00:33:18,390 He must have seen it when I dropped it in the kitchen. 371 00:33:18,423 --> 00:33:19,424 Gone and bought a copy. 372 00:33:20,192 --> 00:33:23,595 We don't know anything for sure, you know? 373 00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:24,529 I mean, think about it. 374 00:33:24,563 --> 00:33:25,564 If we took this to the cops, 375 00:33:25,597 --> 00:33:27,299 they'd say that the evidence was pretty thin. 376 00:33:27,332 --> 00:33:28,500 I know that. 377 00:33:35,540 --> 00:33:36,375 Oh, God. 378 00:33:37,376 --> 00:33:38,210 What? 379 00:33:39,411 --> 00:33:40,647 You got that look. 380 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,714 What look? 381 00:33:42,081 --> 00:33:43,615 You know, that look you get when you're gonna ask me 382 00:33:43,650 --> 00:33:46,351 to do something that I don't wanna do. 383 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,921 Every Sunday, Clark and his wife go to church. 384 00:33:48,955 --> 00:33:49,922 Yeah. 385 00:33:49,956 --> 00:33:52,391 They're out of the house for like three hours. 386 00:33:52,424 --> 00:33:55,360 They leave at 8:30 and come back around midday. 387 00:33:55,394 --> 00:33:57,596 Oh no, Steph. 388 00:33:57,630 --> 00:33:59,464 I am not breaking into his house. 389 00:34:00,532 --> 00:34:01,500 I didn't ask you to. 390 00:34:01,533 --> 00:34:03,335 I didn't say anything. 391 00:34:03,368 --> 00:34:04,302 Okay. 392 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:06,338 What do you want me to do? 393 00:34:08,507 --> 00:34:09,608 Break into his house. 394 00:34:09,642 --> 00:34:12,477 I knew it, I knew it! 395 00:34:13,112 --> 00:34:15,313 You know breaking and entering is a felony, right? 396 00:34:15,347 --> 00:34:16,548 I could go to jail. 397 00:34:16,581 --> 00:34:18,785 You wouldn't have to actually break in. 398 00:34:18,818 --> 00:34:20,920 His wife leaves the spare key under a plant pot 399 00:34:20,953 --> 00:34:22,521 next to the front door. 400 00:34:22,554 --> 00:34:24,991 Okay, so if... 401 00:34:25,024 --> 00:34:26,859 If I do this... 402 00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:29,929 What am I supposed to be looking for? 403 00:34:29,962 --> 00:34:33,231 Any evidence that proves Clark is John List. 404 00:34:33,265 --> 00:34:35,333 Oh, come on Steph. 405 00:34:35,367 --> 00:34:37,335 You really think he's gonna keep incriminating shit 406 00:34:37,369 --> 00:34:39,304 lying around all these years later? 407 00:34:39,337 --> 00:34:42,307 No, but there might be an older photo. 408 00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:44,309 If we had a picture with a clear resemblance, 409 00:34:44,342 --> 00:34:45,610 it would help convince the cops. 410 00:34:46,746 --> 00:34:48,246 Yeah, but... 411 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,315 How are we gonna explain how we got it? 412 00:34:50,348 --> 00:34:51,718 I mean, surely the cops are gonna know 413 00:34:51,751 --> 00:34:53,618 that I broke into his house. 414 00:34:53,653 --> 00:34:55,655 What are they gonna care more about? 415 00:34:55,688 --> 00:34:56,723 Busting you for stealing a photo 416 00:34:56,756 --> 00:34:59,892 or catching some guy who murdered his whole family? 417 00:35:03,896 --> 00:35:05,698 I can't believe I'm gonna do this. 418 00:35:06,766 --> 00:35:07,700 I must be crazy. 419 00:35:15,842 --> 00:35:17,375 Thanks for meeting me today, Miss Phillips. 420 00:35:17,409 --> 00:35:18,745 I know you're very busy. 421 00:35:18,778 --> 00:35:20,780 Please, call me Ellen. 422 00:35:21,681 --> 00:35:23,482 Ellen. 423 00:35:23,515 --> 00:35:26,753 The show you produce, it's intriguing. 424 00:35:26,786 --> 00:35:28,587 Never seen anything quite like it before. 425 00:35:28,620 --> 00:35:31,057 Well, I brought it to the network. 426 00:35:31,090 --> 00:35:34,392 But it's really John Wesley's brainchild. 427 00:35:34,426 --> 00:35:36,428 You heard what happened to his kid, right? 428 00:35:36,863 --> 00:35:38,563 He was murdered, wasn't he? 429 00:35:38,865 --> 00:35:41,366 That's right, his young son. 430 00:35:42,702 --> 00:35:44,737 John noticed, when dealing with the media, 431 00:35:44,771 --> 00:35:47,707 how quickly they could get information out there. 432 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:50,910 The TV coverage helped catch his son's killer. 433 00:35:52,078 --> 00:35:53,478 If it's used in the right way, 434 00:35:53,512 --> 00:35:55,447 the media can be a powerful weapon. 435 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,314 It can. 436 00:35:57,150 --> 00:35:58,718 Of course, if I'm being honest, I've gotta admit 437 00:35:58,751 --> 00:36:01,687 the media's motives are hardly noble. 438 00:36:03,089 --> 00:36:05,992 Everyone who works in this business understands, 439 00:36:06,025 --> 00:36:08,560 if it bleeds, it leads. 440 00:36:09,494 --> 00:36:13,565 Why do you think people are so fascinated by murder? 441 00:36:15,968 --> 00:36:18,638 Killers tantalize people. 442 00:36:19,437 --> 00:36:23,441 Like traffic accidents or natural disasters. 443 00:36:24,977 --> 00:36:29,048 The actions of a killer are horrible, 444 00:36:29,081 --> 00:36:31,316 but the public just can't look away. 445 00:36:32,417 --> 00:36:33,686 So, did you get a chance 446 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,922 to have a look over the details of the List case? 447 00:36:36,521 --> 00:36:37,556 I did. 448 00:36:37,589 --> 00:36:39,558 And will you consider featuring it on the show? 449 00:36:40,592 --> 00:36:42,427 It's the kind of taboo crime 450 00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:45,898 that intrigues and horrifies people. 451 00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:52,604 But the problem is it took place so long ago. 452 00:36:52,638 --> 00:36:56,108 You have one picture that's over 20 years old. 453 00:36:56,142 --> 00:36:59,511 The guy probably looks very different now. 454 00:37:00,612 --> 00:37:02,148 I'd have to question whether or not 455 00:37:02,181 --> 00:37:06,618 we'd get the audience response we need 456 00:37:06,652 --> 00:37:08,120 to make an identification. 457 00:37:09,989 --> 00:37:11,991 But it's worth a shot, isn't it? 458 00:37:12,024 --> 00:37:15,427 I don't think the network is going to want 459 00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:19,999 to blot our copy book by featuring cases 460 00:37:20,032 --> 00:37:24,804 which are unlikely to have a positive outcome. 461 00:37:25,905 --> 00:37:26,939 So what are you saying? 462 00:37:28,506 --> 00:37:30,810 I'm saying it's a "pass" for now. 463 00:37:31,677 --> 00:37:35,915 But if you get any additional information 464 00:37:35,948 --> 00:37:39,118 that could improve the chances of an identification, 465 00:37:40,786 --> 00:37:44,857 then we'll certainly consider it for future broadcast. 466 00:38:08,881 --> 00:38:09,882 It's time. 467 00:44:08,307 --> 00:44:10,109 Thanks Leslie, all right, have a good night. 468 00:44:10,142 --> 00:44:11,443 - Mr. Wesley? - Yes? 469 00:44:11,477 --> 00:44:12,544 Detective Frank Clayton, sir. 470 00:44:12,578 --> 00:44:13,979 Do you have a minute? 471 00:44:14,013 --> 00:44:15,481 Yeah, how can I help you Detective? 472 00:44:15,514 --> 00:44:17,149 I spoke to your producer Ellen Phillips. 473 00:44:17,182 --> 00:44:19,151 I'm trying to get a case featured on the show. 474 00:44:19,518 --> 00:44:20,919 Well, if you go through her channels, 475 00:44:20,953 --> 00:44:22,488 she's gonna arrange that for you. 476 00:44:22,521 --> 00:44:24,156 Oh no, she rejected it, sir. 477 00:44:24,189 --> 00:44:25,057 Well I'm sorry to hear that. 478 00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:26,358 We have a rather full plate right now. 479 00:44:26,392 --> 00:44:27,559 We can't feature everybody, 480 00:44:27,593 --> 00:44:29,194 but perhaps some time in the future. 481 00:44:29,228 --> 00:44:31,196 Well you see, time is a factor here, sir. 482 00:44:31,230 --> 00:44:34,300 Look, Detective, that's just the way it works here. 483 00:44:34,333 --> 00:44:37,102 We have to go through the channels, you know? 484 00:44:38,170 --> 00:44:39,905 I know what happened to your son. 485 00:44:42,508 --> 00:44:47,112 Yeah, well, it's a matter of public record, unfortunately. 486 00:44:48,047 --> 00:44:51,250 John List murdered both of his sons in cold blood. 487 00:44:52,918 --> 00:44:55,120 Frederick, John Junior. 488 00:44:56,588 --> 00:44:58,090 They were 13 and 15. 489 00:44:59,958 --> 00:45:00,959 His daughter, too. 490 00:45:02,161 --> 00:45:02,995 Tricia. 491 00:45:04,096 --> 00:45:04,963 She was 16. 492 00:45:08,267 --> 00:45:11,603 I've been working this case for nearly two decades now. 493 00:45:11,638 --> 00:45:13,038 Our department shut me down 494 00:45:13,072 --> 00:45:15,274 and I'm having to do it on my own time. 495 00:45:16,942 --> 00:45:20,012 All because I am still haunted by that crime scene. 496 00:45:21,413 --> 00:45:26,151 Three beautiful children snuffed out by a man 497 00:45:26,185 --> 00:45:28,187 who's supposed to love and protect them. 498 00:45:31,223 --> 00:45:33,025 They deserve justice, Mr. Wesley. 499 00:45:34,927 --> 00:45:37,029 Come on, looks like you can use a drink. 500 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,002 It was July back in '81. 501 00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,206 Aaron was our first and only son at the time. 502 00:45:49,041 --> 00:45:51,877 My wife Deborah and I were living the American dream. 503 00:45:52,878 --> 00:45:56,081 Had a great job in real estate, beautiful home. 504 00:45:57,182 --> 00:45:59,017 Deborah always wanted to be a mother, 505 00:45:59,051 --> 00:46:00,185 so when Aaron came along, 506 00:46:01,553 --> 00:46:02,955 our lives were complete. 507 00:46:05,591 --> 00:46:09,361 And one day we were in a department store, browsing. 508 00:46:09,395 --> 00:46:10,496 Aaron was with us. 509 00:46:12,699 --> 00:46:14,233 Laughing, running in and out 510 00:46:14,266 --> 00:46:15,901 of the aisles like he always did. 511 00:46:17,069 --> 00:46:19,371 Couldn't have turned our back on him for more than a minute, 512 00:46:19,405 --> 00:46:20,239 he was gone. 513 00:46:22,441 --> 00:46:24,576 Knowing that he was out there, 514 00:46:24,610 --> 00:46:26,912 alone, frightened, without us... 515 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,248 I felt so helpless. 516 00:46:35,521 --> 00:46:38,123 Two weeks later they found his body in a river. 517 00:46:39,726 --> 00:46:42,961 Opportunist abduction, murder. 518 00:46:46,766 --> 00:46:49,636 And our lives completely changed in a matter of minutes. 519 00:46:52,070 --> 00:46:54,039 The day they found Aaron's body, 520 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:57,342 my heart broke into a million pieces. 521 00:47:00,379 --> 00:47:02,347 Years later I'm still trying to put it back together. 522 00:47:03,482 --> 00:47:04,283 I'm sorry. 523 00:47:05,217 --> 00:47:07,286 I think what hurt even more was the fact 524 00:47:07,319 --> 00:47:08,987 that the local police department's 525 00:47:09,021 --> 00:47:11,190 response was so poor. 526 00:47:11,223 --> 00:47:13,392 I mean, with all due respect to you, Detective, 527 00:47:14,359 --> 00:47:16,495 they didn't know their head from their ass. 528 00:47:18,163 --> 00:47:21,400 I can only imagine if they'd been a little bit more decisive 529 00:47:21,433 --> 00:47:24,102 we could've found Aaron before that animal took his life. 530 00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:27,506 Well, if it had come to my department, 531 00:47:27,539 --> 00:47:29,308 it would've been a different story. 532 00:47:30,442 --> 00:47:32,344 Yeah, I appreciate that. 533 00:47:32,377 --> 00:47:34,046 But when the media got involved, 534 00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:39,084 I realized that we could create this wide awareness. 535 00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:42,488 It also restored my faith in human nature 536 00:47:42,521 --> 00:47:43,690 at a very dark time. 537 00:47:45,424 --> 00:47:49,094 We received over 40,000 letters from all over the country. 538 00:47:50,329 --> 00:47:54,032 People wishing us well, sympathizing, 539 00:47:54,066 --> 00:47:55,501 sharing their own stories. 540 00:47:56,468 --> 00:47:59,438 And I knew that if I could get information out there 541 00:47:59,471 --> 00:48:02,474 on a national scale and galvanize the public 542 00:48:02,508 --> 00:48:06,178 into being directly involved with finding those criminals, 543 00:48:07,479 --> 00:48:08,413 we could solve cases 544 00:48:08,447 --> 00:48:11,383 that would generally never stand a chance. 545 00:48:11,416 --> 00:48:13,418 This is why I came to you, Mr. Wesley. 546 00:48:14,854 --> 00:48:16,723 I don't share a bloodline with the List children, 547 00:48:16,756 --> 00:48:21,694 but in death, I've got to know them so well. 548 00:48:23,295 --> 00:48:25,397 I talked to everybody about Frederick 549 00:48:25,430 --> 00:48:27,299 and John Junior and Patricia. 550 00:48:28,635 --> 00:48:31,537 I learned about all the things they loved. 551 00:48:31,570 --> 00:48:34,373 Their dreams, aspirations. 552 00:48:37,543 --> 00:48:40,112 If I'd have caught List, then there'd be closure. 553 00:48:41,046 --> 00:48:43,615 But as long as he's still out there, this'll never be over. 554 00:48:44,851 --> 00:48:46,753 Those children will never be at peace. 555 00:48:47,787 --> 00:48:48,620 I know. 556 00:48:49,822 --> 00:48:51,824 Took us years to find Aaron's murderer. 557 00:48:54,727 --> 00:48:56,361 Closure is important. 558 00:48:56,729 --> 00:48:57,697 It really is. 559 00:48:58,898 --> 00:49:00,667 I've been chasing it for 18 years. 560 00:49:03,235 --> 00:49:07,506 Look, Frank, I can't promise anything. 561 00:49:07,539 --> 00:49:09,374 I'm usually a servant to the network 562 00:49:09,408 --> 00:49:10,777 in these kind of things, but... 563 00:49:13,913 --> 00:49:15,147 I'll do my best. 564 00:49:16,481 --> 00:49:18,083 Try and get you on the show. 565 00:49:19,886 --> 00:49:20,787 Thank you, John. 566 00:49:22,621 --> 00:49:23,522 I appreciate that. 567 00:49:38,570 --> 00:49:40,405 So what do you wanna do next? 568 00:49:40,707 --> 00:49:41,540 I don't know. 569 00:49:42,608 --> 00:49:44,309 Well, one thing's for sure, 570 00:49:44,343 --> 00:49:46,746 I'm not sneaking around his house anymore. 571 00:49:46,779 --> 00:49:48,146 It's too risky. 572 00:49:48,648 --> 00:49:49,481 I know. 573 00:49:51,516 --> 00:49:52,351 I'm so sorry. 574 00:49:53,585 --> 00:49:54,419 I'll live. 575 00:49:56,455 --> 00:49:58,691 Maybe I should just call the cops. 576 00:49:58,725 --> 00:50:01,493 At least then that would shine a spotlight on him. 577 00:50:01,526 --> 00:50:02,895 Maybe his ID's don't check out. 578 00:50:02,929 --> 00:50:04,764 They'll discover who he really is. 579 00:50:04,964 --> 00:50:06,899 And if we're wrong, they'll bust us 580 00:50:06,933 --> 00:50:08,433 for wasting police time. 581 00:50:10,369 --> 00:50:11,904 You don't still have doubts, do you? 582 00:50:13,673 --> 00:50:14,506 I don't know. 583 00:50:19,646 --> 00:50:21,480 We're gonna need more than just suspicion 584 00:50:21,513 --> 00:50:22,614 before we call the cops. 585 00:50:22,649 --> 00:50:24,583 I know, we've been through this. 586 00:50:32,224 --> 00:50:33,358 Look, I'm gonna go home. 587 00:50:33,392 --> 00:50:34,426 I'm pretty tired. 588 00:50:35,327 --> 00:50:35,928 Okay. 589 00:50:38,430 --> 00:50:39,564 You coming by tomorrow? 590 00:50:40,767 --> 00:50:41,566 Sure. 591 00:51:17,335 --> 00:51:19,337 Goddamn it! 592 00:51:19,371 --> 00:51:21,808 Profanity isn't necessary, young man. 593 00:51:21,841 --> 00:51:23,710 What the hell are you doin' in my car? 594 00:51:23,743 --> 00:51:26,012 I think it's time we had a little chat. 595 00:51:26,045 --> 00:51:28,748 You needed to break into my car to do that? 596 00:51:28,781 --> 00:51:30,482 I guess this makes us even. 597 00:51:32,785 --> 00:51:33,720 What do you mean? 598 00:51:33,753 --> 00:51:34,654 The post man. 599 00:51:36,022 --> 00:51:39,025 When I left, he was right there, on the model. 600 00:51:39,058 --> 00:51:41,426 When I came back he was on the floor. 601 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:43,863 Unless this town experienced its first ever earthquake 602 00:51:43,896 --> 00:51:45,798 while I was out, it's tough to see 603 00:51:45,832 --> 00:51:47,365 how that could've happened. 604 00:51:52,905 --> 00:51:54,573 I know that you and your girlfriend Stephanie 605 00:51:54,606 --> 00:51:56,843 have taken quite an interest in me lately. 606 00:51:56,876 --> 00:51:59,411 - No, no... - Please. 607 00:51:59,444 --> 00:52:00,747 Let's level with each other. 608 00:52:02,715 --> 00:52:05,550 I don't know why you've been snooping around. 609 00:52:05,584 --> 00:52:06,719 Maybe I don't want to know. 610 00:52:07,787 --> 00:52:09,521 But let me tell you one thing. 611 00:52:10,489 --> 00:52:13,325 I value my privacy. 612 00:52:14,727 --> 00:52:16,595 As I'm sure you value your own. 613 00:52:17,630 --> 00:52:19,598 We all have a right to it. 614 00:52:19,632 --> 00:52:23,268 I'll respect yours if you respect mine. 615 00:52:24,771 --> 00:52:26,639 And here's the point to remember. 616 00:52:27,774 --> 00:52:28,941 You may be watching me... 617 00:52:34,814 --> 00:52:36,414 But I'm also watching you. 618 00:53:03,676 --> 00:53:05,645 Hey Frank, sorry I'm late. 619 00:53:05,678 --> 00:53:07,647 Damn production meeting ran over, as usual. 620 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,881 Not a problem. 621 00:53:08,915 --> 00:53:10,650 So this is the guy I was telling you about. 622 00:53:10,683 --> 00:53:11,383 Dave Brenton. 623 00:53:11,416 --> 00:53:12,785 - Good to meet you. - You too. 624 00:53:23,863 --> 00:53:26,132 So you're a sculptor? 625 00:53:26,165 --> 00:53:30,837 Actually, autodidact forensic artist. 626 00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:31,771 You'll have to forgive me, Dave. 627 00:53:31,804 --> 00:53:33,840 I'm a little behind the times. 628 00:53:33,873 --> 00:53:35,675 What exactly does your job entail? 629 00:53:35,708 --> 00:53:38,443 Facial reconstructions of fugitives 630 00:53:38,476 --> 00:53:40,746 based on outdated pictures. 631 00:53:40,780 --> 00:53:42,380 Aging a sculpted bust 632 00:53:42,414 --> 00:53:45,117 to show how they may look in the present day. 633 00:53:45,151 --> 00:53:47,854 See Frank, here's the problem you have. 634 00:53:47,887 --> 00:53:50,857 That photograph that we have of List is as old as hell. 635 00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:53,425 Viewers need to see what he looks like today 636 00:53:53,458 --> 00:53:55,560 in order to make a positive ID. 637 00:53:55,594 --> 00:53:57,163 That's where Dave comes in. 638 00:53:57,196 --> 00:53:59,799 He fabricates that age-progressed bust 639 00:53:59,832 --> 00:54:02,668 so that our viewer gets a pretty good indication 640 00:54:02,702 --> 00:54:04,469 of what List might look like today. 641 00:54:04,502 --> 00:54:06,739 Massively improve your chance of a positive ID. 642 00:54:07,673 --> 00:54:10,176 It sounds terrific, but we can't be certain 643 00:54:10,209 --> 00:54:11,644 of what List looks like now, 644 00:54:11,677 --> 00:54:13,045 so it's gonna be kinda speculative, isn't it? 645 00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,513 I'll be based on a lot of research. 646 00:54:15,547 --> 00:54:17,482 I'll create some various key questions. 647 00:54:18,516 --> 00:54:19,719 Where does he live? 648 00:54:19,752 --> 00:54:21,087 The city, the suburbs? 649 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,189 And what kind of clothes does he wear? 650 00:54:23,222 --> 00:54:26,893 I think he would wear a pair of thick dark brown glasses. 651 00:54:26,926 --> 00:54:28,526 Why do you think that? 652 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,062 I think he would wanna look more astute, 653 00:54:30,096 --> 00:54:32,564 you know, more in control than he really was. 654 00:54:33,598 --> 00:54:36,035 Well, it could be you've got the right handle on this guy. 655 00:54:39,805 --> 00:54:41,908 The disappearance of the daughter, 656 00:54:41,941 --> 00:54:44,609 the Amber Alert going out for her, 657 00:54:44,644 --> 00:54:47,445 the discovery of her body in her father's home 658 00:54:47,479 --> 00:54:48,948 and then the arrest of this man. 659 00:54:48,981 --> 00:54:51,017 He was arrested after somebody had heard... 660 00:54:51,050 --> 00:54:52,752 God, that's awful. 661 00:54:54,654 --> 00:54:55,855 Bob... 662 00:54:55,888 --> 00:54:57,189 What? 663 00:54:57,223 --> 00:54:59,591 You hear that, on the TV? 664 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,994 A father killed his own daughter. 665 00:55:03,796 --> 00:55:05,430 Isn't that awful? 666 00:55:08,868 --> 00:55:10,435 Yeah, that's... 667 00:55:10,770 --> 00:55:12,038 that's terrible. 668 00:55:14,974 --> 00:55:16,776 What on earth could drive a man 669 00:55:16,809 --> 00:55:19,679 to kill his own flesh and blood? 670 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,514 Maybe she disappointed him. 671 00:55:51,944 --> 00:55:52,945 Hey. 672 00:55:53,980 --> 00:55:54,847 Hey. 673 00:55:59,085 --> 00:55:59,986 You okay? 674 00:56:01,187 --> 00:56:02,021 Not really. 675 00:56:18,570 --> 00:56:21,273 I know you're having a tough time at the moment, and... 676 00:56:23,876 --> 00:56:25,211 I've been workin' so much. 677 00:56:26,846 --> 00:56:29,614 Haven't been here as much as I should've. 678 00:56:29,648 --> 00:56:30,282 It's fine. 679 00:56:32,018 --> 00:56:32,818 No, it's not. 680 00:56:35,955 --> 00:56:37,555 Your mother, before she passed, 681 00:56:38,924 --> 00:56:42,728 she made me promise that I'd always be there for you. 682 00:56:43,362 --> 00:56:44,196 You have been. 683 00:56:46,598 --> 00:56:47,233 But not enough. 684 00:56:50,136 --> 00:56:53,773 I thought, we need the money, I'll do more shifts, 685 00:56:53,806 --> 00:56:56,709 but if I was bein' honest with myself, 686 00:56:56,742 --> 00:56:57,810 I just couldn't... 687 00:56:59,145 --> 00:57:01,781 I couldn't just stay at home. 688 00:57:03,649 --> 00:57:04,984 Alone with my thoughts. 689 00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,020 It was a struggle. 690 00:57:11,057 --> 00:57:13,192 I still think about your mother all the time. 691 00:57:15,361 --> 00:57:16,195 I just can't... 692 00:57:19,098 --> 00:57:21,767 Focus on the good times, I just... 693 00:57:26,939 --> 00:57:27,840 I miss her too. 694 00:57:35,681 --> 00:57:39,118 I'm gonna be here for you, Steph. 695 00:57:39,151 --> 00:57:39,985 More. 696 00:57:42,388 --> 00:57:44,990 I'm gonna be here for you more. 697 00:57:47,426 --> 00:57:48,260 I promise. 698 01:00:22,381 --> 01:00:24,083 This house is one of the best properties 699 01:00:24,116 --> 01:00:26,252 on the market right now. 700 01:00:26,285 --> 01:00:27,253 Perfect for a family. 701 01:00:31,557 --> 01:00:35,861 Well, I find that most things start and end with a family. 702 01:00:37,296 --> 01:00:38,897 One way or another. 703 01:00:51,110 --> 01:00:51,910 Wow. 704 01:00:53,412 --> 01:00:55,981 Quite the attention to detail there, Dave. 705 01:00:56,015 --> 01:00:57,950 Great job, really intricate work. 706 01:00:58,317 --> 01:01:00,019 Thank you. 707 01:01:00,052 --> 01:01:04,189 Question is, how close is this to how List looks now? 708 01:01:06,225 --> 01:01:07,559 Show tapes tomorrow. 709 01:01:09,094 --> 01:01:10,296 We'll find out soon enough. 710 01:02:10,422 --> 01:02:13,025 Well, it's your shot today, Frank. 711 01:02:13,058 --> 01:02:14,026 I'm kinda nervous. 712 01:02:14,059 --> 01:02:15,961 Don't worry about it. 713 01:02:15,994 --> 01:02:18,230 There are only 15 million people gonna be watching. 714 01:02:18,263 --> 01:02:19,064 Nothing to be nervous about. 715 01:02:19,098 --> 01:02:21,233 You know how to put a mind at ease. 716 01:02:22,401 --> 01:02:23,235 You'll be fine. 717 01:02:23,268 --> 01:02:24,503 Just follow my lead. 718 01:02:25,170 --> 01:02:26,538 The important thing to remember 719 01:02:26,572 --> 01:02:30,142 is that maybe one of those 15 million people 720 01:02:30,175 --> 01:02:31,243 know where John List is, 721 01:02:32,511 --> 01:02:34,446 and we finally nail that son of a bitch. 722 01:02:36,281 --> 01:02:37,316 Come on. 723 01:02:41,153 --> 01:02:42,521 - Hello? - Hey, it's me. 724 01:02:44,022 --> 01:02:45,224 You okay? 725 01:02:45,257 --> 01:02:47,459 I was gonna ask you the same thing. 726 01:02:47,493 --> 01:02:50,129 How come you didn't come over tonight? 727 01:02:50,162 --> 01:02:54,066 - I had football practice. - It's Wednesday. 728 01:02:54,099 --> 01:02:56,168 Isn't practice usually on Thursday? 729 01:02:57,336 --> 01:02:59,338 Uh, they moved it. 730 01:03:00,372 --> 01:03:02,007 Don't lie to me, Danny. 731 01:03:03,308 --> 01:03:05,310 All right, you want me to say it? 732 01:03:06,545 --> 01:03:08,447 I'm kinda freaked out. 733 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,651 I mean, that guy broke into my car and he threatened me. 734 01:03:11,684 --> 01:03:13,419 It's okay to be scared. 735 01:03:13,452 --> 01:03:14,386 I am too. 736 01:03:15,421 --> 01:03:16,422 I just don't know what to do. 737 01:03:16,455 --> 01:03:19,324 I mean, that prick said he was watching me. 738 01:03:19,358 --> 01:03:21,026 He's watching both of us. 739 01:03:24,363 --> 01:03:26,265 So what are we gonna do? 740 01:03:27,366 --> 01:03:28,500 I don't know. 741 01:03:28,534 --> 01:03:30,502 But I do know that being together 742 01:03:30,536 --> 01:03:32,337 is better than being apart. 743 01:03:33,338 --> 01:03:34,239 Makes sense. 744 01:03:35,441 --> 01:03:37,242 Or to put it bluntly, 745 01:03:37,276 --> 01:03:40,345 if you still care about me at all, then get over here. 746 01:03:42,481 --> 01:03:44,283 I do still care about you. 747 01:03:46,084 --> 01:03:47,152 I love you, Steph. 748 01:03:48,253 --> 01:03:49,555 Nothing has changed on that front. 749 01:03:51,390 --> 01:03:53,225 Then stick with me on this. 750 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,427 I will. 751 01:04:08,641 --> 01:04:10,643 Hey, Steph. 752 01:04:10,677 --> 01:04:13,045 Wanna watch some TV with your old man? 753 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,482 Danny and Melissa are coming over. 754 01:04:16,515 --> 01:04:18,050 That's later. 755 01:04:18,083 --> 01:04:20,385 Come and watch some TV with your old man! 756 01:04:20,419 --> 01:04:22,988 It's good to get outta the bedroom for a while, no? 757 01:04:23,656 --> 01:04:25,491 Yeah, I guess you're right. 758 01:04:26,525 --> 01:04:27,627 What are you watching? 759 01:04:28,761 --> 01:04:30,095 Nothing much. 760 01:04:30,128 --> 01:04:31,764 Just waiting for this show to come on, 761 01:04:31,798 --> 01:04:33,398 the one where they track down 762 01:04:33,432 --> 01:04:35,100 America's most wanted criminals. 763 01:04:35,133 --> 01:04:36,435 You ever seen it? 764 01:04:36,836 --> 01:04:38,337 No. 765 01:04:38,370 --> 01:04:40,038 It's pretty interesting. 766 01:04:41,674 --> 01:04:44,543 I was gonna make a sandwich, you want one? 767 01:04:46,144 --> 01:04:47,513 Yeah, sure. 768 01:04:47,546 --> 01:04:49,248 All right, okay. 769 01:04:50,182 --> 01:04:51,183 Yeah. 770 01:04:57,489 --> 01:04:59,726 Good evening, I'm John Wesley. 771 01:05:01,393 --> 01:05:03,262 Those of you who are regular viewers 772 01:05:03,295 --> 01:05:07,466 know that we highlight mostly recent cases. 773 01:05:07,499 --> 01:05:11,503 But tonight, we're turning back the clock 18 years 774 01:05:11,537 --> 01:05:14,707 to November the ninth, 1971, 775 01:05:14,741 --> 01:05:18,176 when a seemingly mild-manner accountant 776 01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:20,145 and churchgoer, John List... 777 01:05:20,178 --> 01:05:22,581 Dad! 778 01:05:25,150 --> 01:05:26,285 What's wrong? 779 01:05:26,318 --> 01:05:28,487 Look, they're talking about John List! 780 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,222 Remember I showed you that magazine? 781 01:05:33,893 --> 01:05:36,495 The guy you think is living across the street? 782 01:05:36,528 --> 01:05:38,631 It's not funny, Dad. 783 01:05:38,665 --> 01:05:39,398 Look. 784 01:05:41,567 --> 01:05:43,569 We hope that someone out there tonight 785 01:05:43,602 --> 01:05:45,738 may know where he is. 786 01:05:45,772 --> 01:05:48,307 We consulted a number of profilers over those years 787 01:05:48,340 --> 01:05:50,242 and they speculate that List 788 01:05:50,275 --> 01:05:53,145 may have obsessive compulsive disorder 789 01:05:53,178 --> 01:05:55,648 and other associative disorders. 790 01:05:55,682 --> 01:05:58,450 Control is very important to this man. 791 01:05:59,117 --> 01:06:01,453 Control can be ever so subtle, 792 01:06:01,486 --> 01:06:05,792 often hidden behind the pretense of help or advice, 793 01:06:05,825 --> 01:06:08,560 suggestion, or even a joke. 794 01:06:08,594 --> 01:06:09,595 Maybe there's someone out there tonight 795 01:06:09,629 --> 01:06:12,397 who may recognize this key characteristic. 796 01:06:13,298 --> 01:06:14,199 Interesting. 797 01:06:14,232 --> 01:06:15,902 I know you mentioned that List 798 01:06:15,935 --> 01:06:18,437 went to great pains to cover his tracks, 799 01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:21,440 he removed himself from all family photographs 800 01:06:21,473 --> 01:06:24,543 and wasn't particularly a social person. 801 01:06:24,576 --> 01:06:28,480 So it's very difficult for you to obtain a photograph 802 01:06:28,513 --> 01:06:30,582 for identification purposes. 803 01:06:30,616 --> 01:06:33,585 That's right, we had one very, very old photograph to go on, 804 01:06:33,619 --> 01:06:35,621 but now, thanks to the work 805 01:06:35,655 --> 01:06:38,490 of the esteemed forensic artist Dave Brenton, 806 01:06:38,523 --> 01:06:40,459 we have a bust of List's head, 807 01:06:40,492 --> 01:06:42,629 which we have age progressed, 808 01:06:42,662 --> 01:06:44,196 and should be able to give the viewers a... 809 01:06:46,198 --> 01:06:47,232 Holy shit! 810 01:06:47,265 --> 01:06:48,668 I told you Dad, I told you! 811 01:06:48,701 --> 01:06:51,236 Oh, oh shit! 812 01:06:51,269 --> 01:06:52,537 Oh... shit. 813 01:06:52,571 --> 01:06:53,706 We need to call the cops. 814 01:06:53,740 --> 01:06:55,742 Whoa, let's not get hasty here. 815 01:06:55,775 --> 01:06:57,376 What else are we gonna do? 816 01:07:24,003 --> 01:07:26,673 Uh, maybe I could go over to him 817 01:07:26,706 --> 01:07:29,574 and talk to him, make sure it's really him. 818 01:07:29,608 --> 01:07:30,575 Dad, are you crazy? 819 01:07:30,609 --> 01:07:32,277 He's a mass murderer! 820 01:08:03,575 --> 01:08:04,644 Okay, okay. 821 01:08:06,478 --> 01:08:07,680 Let me call the cops. 822 01:08:07,714 --> 01:08:09,314 Yeah, let them deal with it. 823 01:08:09,347 --> 01:08:10,415 Okay, okay. 824 01:08:23,730 --> 01:08:24,563 Dad? 825 01:08:29,501 --> 01:08:30,569 Dad, the power's out. 826 01:08:44,884 --> 01:08:45,718 Dad? 827 01:09:08,373 --> 01:09:09,008 Shut up! 828 01:09:12,645 --> 01:09:15,014 I just wanted to be left alone. 829 01:09:16,649 --> 01:09:18,651 You just couldn't leave me be, could ya? 830 01:09:20,686 --> 01:09:22,454 You just had to keep snoopin' around, didn't ya? 831 01:09:22,922 --> 01:09:24,023 - Sorry. - Shut up! 832 01:09:25,825 --> 01:09:27,627 I didn't want it to come to this. 833 01:09:28,795 --> 01:09:29,762 I have no choice. 834 01:09:30,730 --> 01:09:32,999 It's time to give you up to the Almighty! 835 01:10:36,528 --> 01:10:37,529 Stephanie. 836 01:10:44,804 --> 01:10:45,805 Stephanie! 837 01:11:07,559 --> 01:11:09,028 Steph? 838 01:11:10,129 --> 01:11:11,563 Jimmy, hello? 839 01:11:22,842 --> 01:11:24,744 Maybe they went out. 840 01:11:24,777 --> 01:11:26,913 Steph struggles to get around, 841 01:11:26,946 --> 01:11:28,114 so why would she go out 842 01:11:28,147 --> 01:11:29,982 if she knew that we were coming over? 843 01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:39,591 Is he okay? 844 01:11:46,799 --> 01:11:47,900 He's still breathing. 845 01:11:49,902 --> 01:11:51,938 Um, go in there, call the cops. 846 01:11:51,971 --> 01:11:53,940 I'm gonna make sure that Steph's all right. 847 01:11:53,973 --> 01:11:54,941 - Yeah? - Yeah. 848 01:11:58,844 --> 01:11:59,812 Oh shit! 849 01:12:01,847 --> 01:12:03,649 Go Mel, call the cops! 850 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:05,483 Go, go! 851 01:12:35,715 --> 01:12:37,149 You okay, kid? 852 01:12:37,183 --> 01:12:39,551 Yeah, are you? 853 01:12:40,953 --> 01:12:42,620 Nothin' a few stitches 854 01:12:42,655 --> 01:12:45,758 and a couple of painkillers won't take care of. 855 01:12:48,961 --> 01:12:49,862 Steph! 856 01:12:52,298 --> 01:12:56,002 Hey! 857 01:12:56,035 --> 01:12:57,870 - Dad. - Hey! 858 01:13:08,647 --> 01:13:09,281 Dad! 859 01:14:00,966 --> 01:14:04,970 Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit... 860 01:16:06,825 --> 01:16:10,930 You know, I've waited 18 years for this moment. 861 01:16:11,897 --> 01:16:15,701 For the chance to be face to face with you. 862 01:16:18,804 --> 01:16:20,072 To ask you... 863 01:16:22,408 --> 01:16:23,943 how you could do it? 864 01:16:27,546 --> 01:16:29,181 The truth is, no answer you can give 865 01:16:29,215 --> 01:16:31,150 will help me sleep better at night. 866 01:16:34,086 --> 01:16:36,355 But what will help is knowing 867 01:16:36,388 --> 01:16:38,457 you're gonna spend the rest of your days 868 01:16:38,490 --> 01:16:40,159 in an eight by nine cell. 869 01:16:42,361 --> 01:16:44,129 And for every single one of those days, 870 01:16:44,163 --> 01:16:46,365 you'll be looking over your shoulder in fear 871 01:16:47,466 --> 01:16:49,835 of vigilante justice at any moment. 872 01:16:53,472 --> 01:16:55,274 You'll finally know what it's like 873 01:16:56,942 --> 01:17:00,980 to feel the terror your family felt as you murdered them. 874 01:17:04,049 --> 01:17:07,119 And, after all of that... 875 01:17:10,189 --> 01:17:12,091 You'll still have hell to look forward to.