William shatner: Atlantis, a legendary utopia,
and a model for urban efficiency.
The city of the future.
And then one day it was gone.
According to the ancient greek philosopher plato,
it was the glittering capital of an advanced civilization,
and then, suddenly, it vanished from the face of the earth.
Some believe it was destroyed by an earthquake,
others are convinced that it sunk into the sea.
And then there are those who believe
it rose up off the ground and went...
But was it only a myth?
Or did the so-called lost continent of atlantis
really exist?
Well, that is what we'll try and find out.
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shatner: Within this modern city stands the ruins of a citadel
that was once the center of ancient greece.
The ancient greek civilization lasted
for more than three centuries.
The greeks developed a sophisticated culture,
which had a profound impact on western politics,
science and philosophy.
One of the best known greek philosophers was plato,
who wrote more than 20 important philosophical texts,
known as "dialogues."
ric rader: Plato was doing his major writing
in the fourth century bce.
And plato's works are very serious,
very sober philosophical reflections
on major, major questions.
He is really the most important philosopher
in the western world.
Richard freund: For most of western civilization,
plato is the basis for our thinking and philosophy.
But he's also partially historian.
And his work is still used
in order to identify the way life was in antiquity.
Shatner: Of all the influential writings of plato,
the one that is perhaps the most fascinating
and the most mysterious is his account
of a lost civilization that existed centuries before
the rise of ancient greece...
Atlantis.
Atlantis is a very important story in western imagination.
In the year 359 before the common era,
plato, the great philosopher, told a story
about a continent, a large island,
out in the atlantic ocean,
and it became a very powerful nation.
It was home to a fabulous civilization
that began as the byword for justice and compassion.
It had a huge navy that it used to travel
from place to place around the mediterranean.
Andrew collins: Plato tells us in his dialogues
that the information came from a famous statesman
who visited egypt by the name of solon
a few centuries before.
Shatner: Plato wrote that solon traveled to northern egypt
and entered a sacred temple
dedicated to the egyptian goddess neith.
Within the temple was a column
completely covered with hieroglyphics
on which the history of atlantis was recorded.
Egyptian priests told solon the story of
this lost civilization,
which predated the egyptians themselves.
The egyptians would recount the story of atlantis
as a major, major part of where their civilization came from,
where they got a lot of their knowledge.
This was a very advanced and technological civilization.
And plato is reporting this as a very, very important story
for the ancient egyptians.
Pretty much like the next day after plato writes this,
people start debating whether or not it was true.
Did plato mean this as a fictional story,
or was plato talking about a historical occurrence?
Shatner: While it may sound like the stuff of fantasy,
in his dialogues timaeus and critias,
plato provides a wealth of detail
about what many believe was a very real island nation.
Hugh newman: Plato described atlantis as being a huge landmass,
potentially in the atlantic ocean.
One of the main design specs of atlantis was
this huge area at the center of the main city of atlantis
that had concentric circles of land and canals.
It had a canal coming out that went to the sea,
and a great port was built there.
Young: The concentric circles of navigable canals
suggest a well-planned early marina.
It is strongly oriented to the sea.
In the temple on the acropolis at the center of atlantis,
there is a statue of poseidon, the creator god of the place.
And he's got winged horses;
a chariot with horses that can fly.
So there is also a transcendent dimension implied.
Shatner: But if such a transcendent, awe-inspiring place
actually existed, what happened to it?
According to plato, the atlanteans angered the gods
with their pride, what the greeks called "hubris."
-(thunder crashes) -and you definitely don't want to do that.
Young: Atlantis got more and more vain,
more and more abusive in their hubris.
A kind of arrogance that was saying, "we are gods."
that vanity of thinking that we are as important as the gods
tends to upset the gods, and then the downfall comes.
The downfall that is in every greek tragic play
is the same thing.
People of great privilege are brought down.
(thunder crashing)
picknett: Atlantis disappeared
in a day and a night
due to some natural catastrophe,
and ended up under the waves.
Young: The gods came and destroyed the whole place.
The people were killed, the navy was destroyed,
all in a day.
And atlantis sinks into the sea.
Freund: When plato talks about this catastrophic destruction
of atlantis, I have to take him seriously.
And the people would say, "oh, it's just a metaphor, atlantis."
every metaphor has at its base a nucleus
of historical information.
So even if he fictionalized it, even if he elaborated it,
at its nucleus, it's a real historical place.
Shatner: Obviously, the best way to prove whether or not atlantis exists
is to find it.
And rediscovering mythological cities
isn't as far-fetched as it might sound.
Other than the myth of atlantis, the other great myth was
the existence of troy,
a city that rivaled the greeks in power.
We know about the trojan horse, we know about helen of troy,
we know about achilles.
Shatner: For centuries, scholars scoffed at the notion
that troy was a real place.
That is until amateur archaeologist
heinrich schliemann went looking for it in 1871.
And believe it or not, schliemann found troy.
Pretty much where homer said it would be.
Kaku: And that spawned a whole industry
of trying to find other ancient cities.
But I think it also raised false hopes
that we would find atlantis the same way we found
the city of troy.
It may not be so easy.
Shatner: The modern search for atlantis was kicked off
back in the late 19th century
by a rather curious amateur scientist
named ignatius donnelly.
Christopher bader: Ignatius donnelly wrote a book
called atlantis: The antediluvian world
back in 1882.
And this was a book that really brought atlantis out of
plato's fables and into modern consciousness.
He said atlantis really existed,
really did have advanced technology.
Shatner: For donnelly, researching the story of atlantis
became such an obsession that he even went so far
as to claim that he knew precisely
where atlantis would one day be found.
Young: Ignatius donnelly said atlantis was in
a very specific place in the atlantic ocean,
that it sank, and that the azores,
the islands out there off Spain,
are the tips of the mountains.
Now we have good undersea exploration.
We can go down and see the heavy silt
that is at the ocean bottom
that took millions of years to build up.
It couldn't have been a civilization that sank
a few thousand years ago.
So he was wrong.
But ignatius donnelly advanced the idea
that atlantis may have physical history to it.
Shatner: Many researchers believe that the best way to find atlantis
is to look for it where plato said it was located.
Freund: Plato gives us very specific geographic locations
for where atlantis was.
He says it's by the pillars of hercules.
And the pillars were actually two mountains,
one located at the rock of gibraltar,
and the other located in morocco.
And these two rocks were the pillars of hercules.
So he's putting it in a very specific location
that every single reader knew about.
Shatner: Does the key to rediscovering atlantis
lie in exploring the area near the pillars of hercules,
or what today we call the strait of gibraltar?
Perhaps the answer can be found by examining
the findings of a team of archeologists
who believe that the lost city
is buried in Spain.
Shatner: In southern Spain, just a few miles off the coast
of the atlantic ocean lies doñana national park.
Considered to be one of the finest biological reserves
in the world, the park is filled with marsh wetlands,
sand dunes and many forms of wildlife.
But in recent years, archaeologist dr. Richard freund
has come to believe that this marshland
hides a profound secret:
The remnants of atlantis.
Freund: We started our work with the spanish archaeologists
in doñana biological park.
It's one of the largest marshes in all of europe,
about 250 square miles of just marsh.
The most important thing about doñana
is it's located right next to the strait of gibraltar.
This is the area where plato says atlantis was.
So, archaeologists in Spain started to look
in doñana biological park.
And they invited us to come...
...With our geoscience team
to see if we could narrow down the search
using electrical resistivity tomography,
ground-penetrating radar
and other geoscience.
Shatner: The archaeologists hoped
that underground scans would reveal the presence
of the ruins of atlantis buried underground.
The results of the underground scans
showed that there were distinct changes, or "breaks,"
in the density and conductivity of the soil.
Richard freund claims that these breaks
indicate the location of underground stone walls.
Freund: We were able to look through the different layers
and identify what we thought
were the markings of the ancient city walls,
concentric circles that one can see
using electrical resistivity tomography,
where they were below the surface.
Where the ancient city might have been.
Then, we did core samples
that went down into the dirt
30, 40, 50 meters below the surface,
and it told us there was organic matter
that dated back to about 5000 bce,
some of the most ancient remains
in this now close sedimented marsh.
So, now we have the concentric circles,
we have dating, so we know that this is probably the area
where atlantis was centered.
Shatner: But if there are circular structures
beneath the mud at doñana, how did they become buried?
According to freund, the marshes were once the site
of a large bay, and the island of atlantis
sat in the middle of it.
He theorizes that, at some point,
an earthquake and a tsunami struck.
-(people screaming) -the island sunk into the bay,
and mud eventually covered the lost city.
Freund: Plato seems to be describing, in the destruction of atlantis,
an earthquake with a major mega-tsunami
that basically inundated
the entire island with dirt and stone
and they were not able to get all the people out.
It was a catastrophic event,
and that catastrophic event should be recorded in the marsh.
Shatner: Incredibly, freund also claims
to have found evidence underground
not just of the structures of atlantis
but of the cataclysm that supposedly destroyed the city.
It just so happens that in the middle of the circle
where the walls of atlantis were located,
there was a consistent methane layer in the marsh.
Shatner: But why is the presence of a layer of methane
in the doñana marsh a significant find?
Well, methane is a gas made up of carbon and hydrogen.
And in other studies, archaeologists have concluded
that the detection of methane in soil
can indicate the presence of large numbers of dead bodies
buried underground.
And richard freund believes that his discovery
of a significant amount of methane at doñana
means that the bodies of the atlanteans are buried there.
40 feet below the surface,
suddenly to find this sealed layer,
this is what confirms not only the date,
the time, but what happened to most of the people.
Humans, animals, agriculture
had been sealed and disintegrated.
And that is one of the indicators, the methane layer.
Shatner: Does richard freund's discovery of a methane layer
beneath the doñana marshes suggest that atlantis,
and the atlanteans themselves, are buried there,
waiting to be found?
It's an intriguing possibility.
However, since the doñana marsh is a wildlife reserve,
the archaeologists are not permitted to dig there
to try and prove their theory.
But freund and the spanish archaeologists
were determined to keep searching for answers.
So, they sent underwater divers to investigate
the nearby ocean floor
where they found extraordinary evidence
that an ancient city once existed in this area.
Freund: What they were able to discover
was there were massive walls,
all in the area right off of the coast.
You have to wonder "where did they come from?"
so, what we were able to piece together
is this came from a major city on the coast.
And that city is, most likely than not, atlantis.
Shatner: Is it possible that richard freund
has found the site where atlantis was located,
finally proving that this lost civilization
was, in fact, real?
Freund: The most mysterious thing about atlantis
is everybody knows that it was destroyed,
and yet most people are looking for evidence
that it wasn't completely destroyed.
In my opinion, this site in southern Spain
is where atlantis was.
Shatner: Richard freund believes he is on the cusp
of uncovering the ruins of atlantis,
but his theory faces stiff competition
from those posed by other researchers.
In fact, there are some who argue that atlantis
was located at another site
that is roughly 100 miles west, in portugal.
And according to the man who discovered that site,
it fits virtually every clue left by plato,
in a way no other place on earth can possibly match.
Shatner: British resarcher peter daughtrey
publishes a book titled atlantis and the silver city.
In it, daughtry argues that if atlantis existed,
the best way to find its location is to take
a much closer, more detailed look at plato's writings.
Daughtrey has been exhaustively studying
plato's dialogues for decades,
and is confident that he has found enough clues
to solve the mystery of atlantis.
When I analyze plato, and in the second dialogue, critias,
it gave an awful amount of detail.
In fact, there are 100 clues, but about 40 of them
you couldn't hope to possibly find today
because they would have all gone a long time ago.
So I distilled it down to just 60 clues
that we could reasonably hope to match today.
Shatner: When daughtrey drilled deeper into plato's writings,
he concluded that atlantis wasn't located
along the coast of Spain,
but rather, the idyllic algarve coast of portugal.
Daughtrey: When I'd finished researching the 60 clues,
all 60 fit with this area.
One of the few crops he speaks of in detail
is-is chestnuts, sweet chestnuts.
That's one of the evocative smells in the algarve.
And the sweet chestnut was endemic in portugal,
and, well, iberia.
He also said it had another clue,
which was great wealth.
Well, that area of southern portugal
was one of the wealthiest areas
for precious metals in the world.
Phoenicians were there trading
with the algarve for the precious metals.
In fact, at one stage, so much silver
had been taken by the phoenicians
from this region of southern portugal
back to babylon, the bullion market crashed
because there was so much of it.
Shatner: But what about the biggest clue of all?
Didn't plato say that atlantis was an island?
Daughtrey: A lot of people were looking for an island,
and the word that plato used, the ancient greek word,
was nêsos, n-e-s-o-s.
In actual fact, the greeks had three definitions
of the word nêsos.
One was an island.
The other was a big estuary
with mudflats and rivulets of water.
And the other one was a peninsula.
And right outside the straits of gibraltar
you got the iberian peninsula.
So that had been bedeviling the search for atlantis
for a long time, people were looking for an island.
It probably wasn't an island.
Shatner: But if the land, the nêsos, of atlantis
is located in southern portugal,
where exactly is the capital city?
The one with the concentric rings,
the massive harbor and the temple of poseidon?
Daughtrey: I turned to the clues for the city,
which were 18 of the 60 clues,
and they're very precise and detailed.
Plato said that the capital city was less than a kilometer wide.
It had mountains at the back of it, it was on a flat plain.
It was encircled by three rings of water and two of land,
and the outer ring of water was a big harbor.
Shatner: As daughtrey searched,
he found only one place in the region--
or for that matter, in the world--
that fits every single one of his 18 clues.
And to his surprise, that place was a city
that is located in portugal,
not on the bottom of the ocean, nor buried under layers of mud:
The old portuguese town of silves.
This ancient city,
in the algarve region of southern portugal,
is set on the arade river,
which links inland portugal to the open ocean.
Daughtrey: Silves town itself is just less than a kilometer wide.
One of plato's clues was that
it was only nine and a quarter kilometers from the sea.
The river that runs past silves
and goes, you know, out to the sea,
it's exactly nine and a quarter kilometers.
Plato said that they built the buildings
from white, black and red rock.
In fact, if you go to silves now, you can see the pavement
is in white, black and red stone.
Plato said there was a palace at the top of the island.
And silves, there's an old castle there,
the biggest in portugal.
The current castle is on a brow of a hill
that is the same land measurements
as he gave for the palace.
So all these clues match to the city.
There couldn't be two of them.
And it really is the final clincher, if you like,
that that was where plato was talking about.
Shatner: According to peter daughtrey,
the city that is now called silves
was at the center of a vast empire that stretched
to include the area of the doñana marsh,
so it's entirely possible that both he and richard freund
have uncovered remnants of atlantis.
But questions remain.
For instance, if atlantis was a far-reaching,
seafaring nation that traveled throughout the mediterranean,
then how come no ancient artifacts
from their civilization have ever been recovered?
Well, a recent discovery
may have finally revealed the ancient artifacts
that archaeologists have been searching for.
Marine archeologists recover dozens
of mysterious metal bars
from an ancient shipwreck on the seafloor off of sicily.
Metal bars that, incredibly, match the description
of a metal that was said to be treasured by the atlanteans:
Orichalcum.
Newman: One of the mysteries of atlantis that plato talked about
was a type of metal called orichalcum.
This has been a big mystery and a big debate,
you know, for many decades about what this really is.
Freund: The archaeologists said,
"we want to know if this is really orichalcum."
so I sent a geoscientist
with an x-ray fluorescence machine
that basically can tell me the content
of that metal without destroying the sample.
And what he discovered was it had all the characteristics
of what orichalcum traditionally had.
It had zinc, it had lead,
it had copper, it had tin.
And these are all materials that made orichalcum so famous.
Could the very existence of orichalcum
really be tangible evidence that plato's fabled
lost continent actually existed?
There are many who believe the answer is yes.
But does that suggest that atlantis was located
somewhere off the coast of Spain, in portugal, perhaps?
Or could it have been somewhere else?
Somewhere that few people would ever imagine?
Shatner: Dayton, ohio, November, 1923.
Edgar cayce, an american psychic and healer,
famous in the early 20th century
for his ability to see into the future,
has a profound vision while in a self-induced trance.
-(babbling) -but on this particular occasion,
cayce's vision was not of the future
-but of the distant past. -(mumbles): Atlantis.
Shatner: He saw atlantis.
But the atlantis that cayce saw
did not resemble an ancient city.
Edgar cayce talks about atlantis in his psychic readings
as being a place of high culture.
Civilization beyond even what we have today.
They had everything from crystals
that could affect your healing in the body
to death rays, even airships.
Bader: He described atlantis
as a place of a much greater and much more advanced technology
than either plato or donnelly claimed.
He claims that they were able to levitate
and have psychic powers.
The downfall of atlantis, according to cayce,
was that atlantis had developed giant crystal death rays
and there was an internal civil war on the island,
that during that war, the crystal death rays
were set off and sunk the island beneath the waves.
Shatner: Giant crystal death rays?
As strange as it sounds, that is what cayce said.
Researchers believe that one way to test his incredible claims
is to look for the ruins of atlantis
where edgar cayce thought it was located.
Cayce said that atlantis wasn't centered near the mediterranean,
as most people believe,
but rather, on the other side of the atlantic ocean.
Picknett: Edgar cayce described atlantis
as being just off the coast of cuba,
and there is some quite persuasive research
about, um, atlantis actually being off cuba.
Collins: In September, 1998,
I went to cuba and I hired the help of a local archeologist
who was able to take me out to these caves.
We found a veritable sistine chapel of the ancient world.
Seven chambers full of the most incredible rock art
showing these weird concentric circles
that were a complete mystery to the archeologists.
It was almost as if I had a eureka moment,
and I realized that this could be the key to finding atlantis.
Shatner: In addition to archaeological evidence
linking cuba to atlantis, researchers argue
that there is also historical evidence,
in the form of accounts written by spanish explorers
in the 16th century.
In 1552, a spanish historian
by the name of francisco lópez de gómara
actually wrote that when the spanish did arrive in cuba,
they found that the indigenous peoples
had a tradition that once all of these islands
were one huge continent...
...That had been broken apart
by the waters during a great cataclysm
and split apart into the islands
and the cays that we see today.
Shatner: According to geologists,
such a cataclysm did take place
in the atlantic ocean, near cuba,
more than 10,000 years ago.
During the last ice age,
sea levels were about 400 feet lower.
Many of today's islands were joined into large landmasses;
island continents, you might say.
Then the ice began to melt, creating sudden surges
in ocean levels called meltwater pulses.
One particularly violent pulse wreaked havoc
on coastlines and islands everywhere.
Meltwater pulse 1b.
Some people think that meltwater pulse 1b took place
precisely when atlantis was supposed to fall.
Now, of course, this is a theory,
'cause we're going back 10,000 years.
Some people have claimed that perhaps it was
the sudden meltwater being released
that caused the flooding which destroyed atlantis.
Plato tells us that atlantis was somewhere
out in the atlantic ocean.
But where, exactly?
Is it possible that atlantis awaits discovery
off the coast of cuba?
I actually think the answer is yes.
Shatner: If edgar cayce was right, and the ruins of atlantis
can be found in the ocean near cuba,
then is it also possible that atlantis possessed
incredibly sophisticated technology, as he described?
Perhaps even technology
that is more advanced than our own.
Airships, levitation, psych powers.
Sounds like something out of science fiction,
until we remember that, according to plato,
atlantis was created by poseidon,
the greek god of the sea, and ruled by his children.
And there are some who believe that
those same greek gods were actually
extraterrestrial visitors.
But that's all too far-fetched for rational minds
like ours to accept.
Or is it?
Shatner: Standing in the center of the national archaeological museum
is an ancient statue that is referred to as
poseidon of melos.
Dated to the second century bc,
it depicts the greek god poseidon who,
according to plato, was both the ruler of the sea
and the founder of atlantis.
We hear from plato that the gods drew lots
and divided up the world into areas
that they would be responsible for.
And poseidon receives an island,
and he finds a human woman on the island,
falls in love with her,
and they have five sets of twins.
And the firstborn of the first set of twins he names atlas,
and he makes him the king of atlantis.
So the island is named for that atlas,
as is the atlantic ocean
in which the island was situated.
The original inhabitants of atlantis,
the atlanteans themselves, because they are
the descendants of a god, they are like gods themselves.
They're not gods on the level of poseidon,
but they are endowed with supernatural powers of sorts.
Burdorff: They have the best technology, they have the most resources,
they have civilization crafted by a god
for their greatest benefit.
Shatner: Were the atlanteans really supernatural beings
with advanced technology who descended from a god?
Sounds like a wild fantasy.
But, just like the rest of the atlantis story,
it begs the question: Is there any way
that it could possibly be true?
Plato said the atlanteans were the children of the gods.
They were hybrid beings.
They were part human, part god,
where the gods have created this race of beings.
Many people have long believed that this story is true,
but they weren't really gods,
they were actually extraterrestrials,
and they mated with human females
and created a hybrid race.
This is a story that has all kinds of hallmarks
of genetic engineering and the influence of
an extraterrestrial with this technology.
It sounds like quite a far-out idea,
but there's a lot of analogies in myths
that don't really make sense unless you look at it
-from a technical perspective. -(thunder crashes)
henry: In plato's dialogues, he makes it clear that
atlantis is a place of genuine history.
So what the story is actually telling us
is that there were actual beings that came to earth
and influenced human affairs by creating hybrid offspring.
Shatner: Extraterrestrial hybrids.
If this fascinating theory is true,
could it be that the advanced technology
associated with atlantis was brought to earth...
From another world?
And perhaps more profoundly, if the atlanteans
descended from extraterrestrials,
could it be that they didn't just disappear,
but actually went home?
One of the big problems of atlantis
is where is it? Where did it go?
There's so many places around the world
that atlantis is said to have existed:
Antarctica, the mediterranean, cuba and other places.
One of the ideas is that it actually was
some kind of spaceship that lifted off
and then would go and land in another location.
So many of the stories we often find in greek myths
do talk about these stars falling from the sky
and creating these islands in the ocean.
So atlantis could have actually took off and left earth.
Henry: Cultures all around the world talk about humans deciding
to ascend or leave the planet because of
an impending cataclysm;
a coming apocalypse, like a great flood
or a cataclysm of that nature.
And this is what we might be seeing in atlantis,
where they know this cataclysm's coming,
and they decide it's time to move into the stars.
Shatner: Atlantis a spaceship?
It's an audacious theory.
Which, perhaps, is what you must expect
when an entire continent vanishes
from the face of the earth.
But... Did atlantis really leave no trace?
Or, in fact, could there be a reflection of the lost continent
in the modern world,
and in the last place
anyone would expect to find it?
Shatner: Orlando, florida. 1966.
Only months before his death,
walt disney announces his most ambitious project to date.
Dave bossert: In 1966,
really one of the last things that walt talked about publicly
was his designs for epcot,
which stands for experimental prototype city of tomorrow.
And he had been amassing property
in the orlando area of florida for a number of years
before he finally made this announcement.
Shatner: In the years following disney's death,
the epcot project moved forward.
But without disney's personal guidance,
his ambitious plans were scaled back.
In his original vision,
epcot was to be not just a tourist attraction,
but an actual city,
a place where thousands would live and work--
a utopia.
Bossert: The designers, the imagineers,
walt disney, were all looking to see
if they could create this utopian society.
And you have to remember, as they were designing this,
there was the cultural upheaval of the 1960s starting to go on.
Shatner: But there's one thing
few people know about epcot.
Both disney's original design
and the version that was ultimately built
resemble, to a remarkable degree,
plato's description of atlantis,
right down to the concentric rings.
So, with epcot, you had this center core,
which would have been the office buildings
and live industry,
and you had these concentric rings
that radiated out from that,
with greenbelts separating different areas,
and this is very similar to the description that plato gave.
And instead of greenbelts, they were waterways.
Shatner: Was walt disney creating a modern-day atlantis,
perhaps without even realizing it?
Bossert: No one really knows
what were those thoughts that floated through his head
about the lost city of atlantis.
What was he thinking about it?
What did he believe?
We'll never know that.
I firmly believe that if walt disney
had lived another 20 years,
we may have seen his vision of epcot
really be a modern-day version
of the lost city of atlantis.
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mcneill: The idea of a utopian society
has always captured imaginations.
And the way that this intentionally planned community
was conceived and designed and executed
speaks to the power
of those models of utopian societies that have come to us
out of antiquity and tradition.
Whether it's actually still there to be found,
or whether it's been so badly destroyed
that no evidence of it remains,
what's really happened to atlantis, we don't know,
but I think one day we'll find evidence of it.
Could an advanced civilization,
with technology beyond our wildest dreams,
have existed here on earth thousands of years ago?
It's certainly a compelling notion.
But maybe atlantis was always meant to be a myth,
a utopian city that was conceived as an elusive goal
for mankind to achieve,
like camelot or shangri-la.
In any case, if atlantis did exist,
let's hope that someday we find it.
It would be a shame if all those legendary wonders
stayed hidden and those secrets remained...
Unexplained.
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