- Tonight on Part 2 of the "Below Deck: Sailing Yacht"
season 4 reunion, it's the Parsifal III crew
together again.
Gary, I have to ask you about something that was
just about as cringey as anything I've seen
on "Below Deck." - I was disgusted.
- Who's still hooking up with who?
- It's important to all of us to stay really good friends.
- Friends with benefits? - No, friends.
- Daisy, Gary, and Colin square off.
- No, no, no. That's not what fucking happened.
- Let me finish.
- We can't talk over you, Dais,
but whenever we're having a conversation,
then you're quite happy to interrupt us.
- All the drama that went down after the season ended.
- This is why the relationship turned toxic.
You can't reason with this woman.
- Part 2 of the "Below Deck: Sailing Yacht" reunion
starts now.
- Welcome back to part 2
of the "Below Deck: Sailing Yacht" reunion.
Daisy, Alfie D. wants to know why you think
Gary can't take a hint when it comes to
Mads not being super into him.
- Yeah, the whole thing was kind of hard to watch,
to be honest. She was very direct,
and you know, power to her.
I just think as people, we need to be very aware
of what we're saying and doing to other people,
and that includes Gary, that includes Mads,
and I think it includes everybody.
- 100%. - Makes sense.
- Colin, um, Kara L. wants to know
your take on Gary and Mads,
and how satisfying was it to see Gary losing it
over a girl for a change?
- It was funny at the start,
but I think Mads said, even in the season,
that, um, you know, it was just easier for her
to keep going along with the motions
than sort of calling it off.
It became pretty obvious that she wasn't that into him
towards the end.
- Alex, Kendra O. wants to know,
"If you were so interested in Mads,
"why didn't you make a move before Gary did?"
- I had known her for, you know, five or six days
prior to Gary arriving.
We all have to live together, so I wasn't just gonna jump
on, like, the first person that gives me some attention.
Um, and then, by the time we realized
we're kinda into each other, I was pretty late in the season,
and there was already a pretty large entanglement
with, um, G Man, so we just--
I just kinda dialed it back.
- Um, Gary, what was your reaction
to hearing Mads say on "Watch What Happens Live"
that she regretted hooking up with you?
- I really had no idea that Alex was interested in me,
so I just didn't pursue it.
- Do you wish you had? - Yes.
- Wow. - Yeah, I didn't watch it,
but it's not the first time someone's said that,
so... fuckin' hell. [snickering]
My question to you, Mads, is if-if you regret it--
by all means, you can regret it.
It doesn't really affect me too much,
but if you regret it, why would you do it
over and over again?
I mean, surely after the first time, you'd be like,
"Well, this was sh--. Why am I gonna do it again?"
- If you-- - You keep doing it.
It makes no sense to me whatsoever.
- I'll happily explain. Um... one,
I didn't say I regret it.
I said, if I were to go back, and, after seeing everything,
choose to do something different.
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20, so I definitely learned a lot
from watching this season.
However, um...
Honestly, I lost my train of thought.
I have ADHD. I don't know what to tell you.
[chuckling]
- Um, okay. - Good chat, good chat.
- Why did you keep going back, Mads?
- I had a response. I literally--
um, 'cause I didn't regret it, like, at the time.
Like-- and I still don't, like I said.
I just would rather not be in that messy drama.
But I didn't know it at the time that it was,
like, that deep.
That's why I kept going back, because I had no regrets.
- Did Gary split?
- He's in the bathroom - I think Gary's going potty.
- Okay, well, hopefully Gary will come back.
We're talking about him. - Come back, Gary.
[laughing]
- Yeah, welcome to our world, Andy,
and what we deal with. [laughing]
[indistinct chatter]
- Sorry. - He's back.
- Okay, well, Gary-- - I'm back. I needed a toilet.
My bad.
- Okay, I mean, it's interesting that you needed a toilet
right when Mads was talking about your relationship.
- Regretting having sex with me?
Yeah, 'cause I want to hear all about that.
[laughing]
- That's-- well, that's actually not what she said.
Daisy, McKenzie M. wants to know if you were surprised
by how Gary reacted to Mads not saying good night to him,
and how needy he's become of her attention
after they had sex.
- The fact that a girl won't say good morning
or good night to me after we've had sex fuckin' hurts.
- I was literally like, "What the hell?"
- That was-- oh, was that on the show? Oh, God.
- Um, Mads, Josh W. wants to know
how you were able to forgive Gary for calling you pathetic
while you were on the phone with your parents?
- I'm pathetic? Fuck off.
I've been called names. I can take a hint
and, like, take it on the chin, but I don't know.
Pathetic was just a word I didn't like.
- To be honest, I do remember this to a T, Andy.
I think I was calling myself pathetic
knowing I was chasing a girl that didn't want anything
to do with me, and I think I tried to explain this to Mads.
Like, hey, what's going on, and then she's just not
giving me any attention. I'm like, "That's pathetic."
Like, "I'm pathetic." I was calling myself pathetic.
It was taken in the wrong way. Um, so yeah.
- Gary, I have to ask you about something that was...
just about as cringey as anything I've seen
on "Below Deck." - Oh, God.
- Uh, which is when you confronted Mads,
um, for letting you
go down on her
when she allegedly had her period.
- Is it that time of the month for you?
- Why?
- Well, then you would have the common decency to tell me
to not go down on you if you were.
- What the fuck? - Oh my...
- Andy, Andy, I'm not answering this now.
[indistinct chatter, laughter]
- Fuck. - Bathroom break.
- I love how everyone else is cringing.
Like, imagine how I feel. - Um, Andy, Mads,
I have to apologize, and I apologize to you here,
in front of everyone. Uh, that was very uncalled for.
You didn't deserve that. Um...
No one deserves that. Yeah, I'm really sorry,
and I don't actually want to answer anything about that,
Andy, because that was-- it was probably one of
the lowest points in the-- in the season, I would say.
That was-- that was quite rough.
And no one deserves that. Sorry, Mads.
- Do you accept his apology, Mads?
- Yep.
[laughing]
- At that point, were you completely over Gary?
- Uh, yes.
At that point, it's so also late in the season.
We're all so exhausted and done.
I think you see me say, like, I hate everyone.
Like, I was so ready to leave, and that was, like,
the cherry on top, and I was-- it was done.
- Well, Daisy, what was your reaction
when you were clued into this?
- I was, like, horrified, I think,
because I feel so protective over the girls.
And at one stage, Gary came into the cabin
and I just, like, screamed at him, and closed my--
I-I was disgusted.
Nobody should speak about another person in that manner,
in any way, and um-- yeah. - Honestly, the only reason
I was, like...
doing as well as I did was because Lucy was there
right from the jump, and she automatically, like,
killed the tension, and I was also very shocked.
- Alex, why did you feel the need to repeat Mads' joke
about being bloated because she was on her period.
- Um, it was just, like, a bit of information
that I-- you know, a conversation I had drunkenly,
and then it just, like, was the first thing that came out
when they said Gary was down there.
It was just, like-- I was just, like, taken aback.
So it wasn't meant maliciously in any way.
It was just like, "Whoa. What the heck?" You know?
- Yeah, whatever. It is what it is.
- Coming up in part 2
of the "Below Deck: Sailing Yacht" reunion...
Did you see each other after the season wrapped?
- There's been instances. - But did you have sex?
That's what they want to know.
- And we're back with the gang from "Below Deck."
Gary, um, Ty M. Facebooked and wants to know
if you recognize any similarities
between Ashley's actions from last season
and your actions with Mads this season.
"Getting a taste of your own medicine?
"Will you treat women differently going forward?"
- Yeah, 100%, Andy, and I think we are both very cringe
and both very needy, and yeah.
I guess it's not good to look back on,
and it's not nice to see yourself in that light.
- Yeah, I mean, it seems like your attitude,
as we've known you on the show,
has been one of, "Hey, I'm just having fun.
"I'm not looking for anything serious."
So, is there a part of you that thinks maybe you got
a taste of your own medicine?
- Oh, yes, 100%, Andy. I mean, I'm only human.
I only make mistakes, and you can only learn from them.
Hakuna matata.
I'm not gonna live in the past
and worry about it too much.
- I think that was our first "hakuna matata" reference
at a reunion.
[laughing]
By the way, Mads, after first making out
with Chase during Truth or Dare,
was there a part of you that thought
maybe you would be interested
in pursuing a boat-mance with him?
- Um, I love Chase.
Um... I think... I don't know.
He's just way too sweet and genuine, and like,
I am not a good person sometimes.
And I would like not be a good match for him.
And I would never do that to him.
- Daisy, what was your initial reaction
when you heard that Mads and Gary had hooked up?
- I was a little surprised
because I thought coming into the season,
Gary was going to try, not like...
to jump into bed with one of the stews.
I was also surprised that, like, it was kept from me.
It felt a little bit--
Like, Mads told me.
Like, she was like, "Yeah, we hooked up."
But Gary kept it from me.
I thought that was a little weird.
- Gary, did you keep it from her because...
you two had your own considerable baggage
coming into this season?
- Um, yeah, I think that would be the reason for it, Andy.
Um, yeah, Daisy and I did hook up in the past,
and I'm not going to run to Daisy straight away,
and say, "Hey, I hooked up with another girl."
When there has been something
between Daisy and I in the past.
I don't think that's very polite.
Um, I don't think it's a way to go about something.
- Daisy, Kiki J. wants to know
if you agree with what Gary said,
that every time he's gotten with a girl in the crew,
you've tried to cock block him.
Or is it just because he's a distraction to your stews?
- No, I don't think that was a very fair point at all.
I think because I've watched the seasons
and reflected, um, by this season,
I was very much let Gary and Mads do their own thing.
But my intention was always,
you know, like, have sex on the night off,
And, you know, kiss on your night off,
be affectionate.
But when you're wearing a uniform,
and you're needed,
and I'm gonna take myself out of that bracket.
I am the chief stew.
I am allowed to know when, you know,
I can go into the engine room,
like to sneak a kiss with Colin.
It's not the same with the juniors.
I earned that after, you know,
10 years in the industry.
Because I know people are gonna pop back with that.
But yeah, my main prerogative
was that I felt Gary was very, very distracting
with my stews.
- I'm wondering if others agree with that assessment.
- Lead by example, I guess.
So, if you're doing it, Daisy,
we can all do it!
- Captain Glenn.
- It's a very good point that Daisy makes.
It's-It's tough for everyone to accept that.
But Daisy's role is to manage her department.
And so, she sets herself a high standard.
And there are certain liberties, I think,
that people in leadership take
because they feel they can self-police
because they must self-police.
So, I see Daisy's point,
but I could see how somebody else would take that,
like, "Oh, hang on."
Like Gary just said, you know, "Lead by example."
So I can see both sides of it.
- Gary, Leslie S. on Facebook wants to know if there's ever
been a charter season in which you didn't hook up
with a crew member?
- Um... [laughing]
On "Below Deck?" No.
Normal charter seasons, yes.
- Gary, what's your longest-term relationship,
out of curiosity?
- Uh, three and a half years.
- Wow. - 60 seconds.
[laughing]
Sorry, Gary. Sorry, mate.
- Savage.
- Thanks, Glenn. I appreciate that.
Because generally it's about 45,
but that's okay. [laughing]
- Mads, it was really exciting
when you and Alex finally made out in the van.
Did you see each other after the season wrapped?
- Uh, yeah, we've hung out here and there.
- There's been instances.
- What did you mean when you talk about
instances with Mads?
[chuckling]
- Um, I think after the show, we explored it a little bit,
um, to see if it was something,
you know, worth continuing on with.
And we both stay very busy.
Geographically, we're close.
And as friends now, we stay very close.
So, I think
that everyone who's stayed pretty well-connected,
uh, Chase, Ileisha, Lucy and Mads,
um, you know,
we've been on some trips together
and we hang out together and we talk weekly.
I think we're all in a really good place
and happy with-
with how we stand the way it is.
- But did you have sex? - Mads, do you have feelings--
- That's what they want to know.
- There you go.
- I think it's just really important
that, um, like, it's important to all of us
to stay really good friends.
And I think that's what outshines everything.
And so, that's where it is.
- Friends.. with benefits?
- No, friends. He has a--
wait, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.
Um, friends.
[laughing]
- You have a girlfriend, Alex? Yes.
- Uh, yeah. - Okay, well...
don't sound too excited about it.
- Well-- Well, technically,
not right now, but, you know, I'm hopeful
that, you know-- - Complicated.
- I'm really sorry. I didn't mean to do that.
- Coming up...
- Nobody knows in the audience.
Nobody knows this.
- Okay, so you want to fucking go back to that.
Why don't we go well back to fuckin' season 2!
- Hey, everybody. We're back with
the "Below Deck Sailing Yacht" Reunion.
Eric G. wants to know, show of hands,
"Who here would want to eat sushi off a naked Gary?"
- Alex! - Not me.
- If I was drunk. - That's nice.
By the way, I think that we all learned this season
that throuples maybe don't work, eh?
- Yeah, no. - Nuh-unh.
- Bad news bears.
- Glenn with the throuple, that was really
the first time we've seen you step in
and threaten to kick an unruly guest off the boat.
- The first moment I see anyone getting aggro,
they will be getting off the boat.
- How did you know you had to intervene?
- I've seen that kind of thing before,
and I don't want to take any chance.
I want to make it abundantly clear that--
what's at stake if these guys start acting out.
- They're little boys who need to...
...be put in their place, so Glenn did that.
- Well, this season we saw a newly single Colin
make a move on Daisy.
But after learning the truth
about her sexual history with Gary, and...
mistakenly being called Gary in bed,
does Colin regret stumbling into this love triangle?
Let's take a look back.
- Okay.
- What the fuck? Where did that come from?
In all honesty, I kind of feel like
it was a matter of time in some ways.
But yeah, still surprising.
- I'm quite happy you guys hooked up.
- Are you upset that we hooked up? - No, no, no.
I'd tell you straight if I was upset. No, no, no.
- What do you think of me and Colin kissing each other?
- Maybe there's a little bit of jealousy there.
- What fucking warped zone am I in, right now?
Now that you can't have me, now you fucking want me.
- Having sex with you was fuckin' amazing.
- Shut the... fuck up...
I'm so done with this conversation.
- What the fuck?
Like, why would you lie to me about that?
- Stop. - [indistinct mumbling].
- Stop it. - Daisy.
- You did that.
- He's a friend. He'll always be a friend.
But I'm just realizing, he's one of those guys
that I can't...
trust completely.
- Lots to unpack here.
Um...
Let me just jump right into it.
Diana from Lake Placid said, "After seeing Daisy
"on Watch What Happens Live,
"it seems like she's not liking Colin."
You said he has the most to answer to at the reunion,
so... - I feel like he does.
Things are complicated.
- What happened?
You know, I have this question, too.
What did happen between wrapping and now.
[chips crunching]
- That's for me? - Um...
You'd like to go, Colin, first?
Absolutely. Narrate the story.
- Can you hear me? [chips crunching]
- Colin, you want to start?
- All we can hear is Gary eating chips.
- Colin, you want to start?
- We explored something together.
Um, the first time I saw her again
was at the Newport Boat show.
I flew her over from the UK to come see me.
That was really good.
And then there was a couple of other things that we did.
We spent a couple of weeks together in Mexico.
I flew to New York to see her.
We were kind of bouncing around together
for a little while,
and then it kind of turned a little toxic, I'd say.
And, um, I-I ended things around...
- Why did it turn toxic?
- Because we triggered each other.
And why-- you-- you're missing the whole point
of why it really turned badly.
- Daisy, what is he missing?
- So when I found out he'd broken up
with his ex-girlfriend in April,
I was like, okay, great.
Not great because they broke up,
but great because possibly something could happen
between Colin and I. We knew we liked each other.
It was-- we could feel it.
So I turn up to the boat,
and I find out that he has been sleeping with someone
that he's working with.
So I immediately retreat.
I put up all of my walls.
This is nothing that gets shown, nothing that's aired.
And I become very defensive,
as I'm apparently defined as.
Colin made me feel incredibly guilty
about the Gary thing.
That didn't just happen on season.
That happened throughout the year.
Then throughout the year,
I permanently asked about this woman,
and I asked why it was different with me and Gary
and not this woman?
And he said, "the difference is is I'm telling you
"that there is nothing between me and this woman,
"that there is no future.
Even if you and I break up there's no future."
So then to find out from my crew members
a couple of months after we had broken up,
that he was now in a serious relationship with this woman,
it was very shocking for me to hear,
very hurtful.
And the toxicity was always there
because the trust was never there.
- You want me to respond to that, Andy?
- Yeah. - Before filming season four,
Daisy and I hooked up.
Soon as that happened-- - You did?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. - ..and I told her--
- Hold on, hold on. - Yeah, this is what--
this is what nobody knows in the audience,
nobody knows this.
People are starting to-- my inbox is--
- Okay, so you wanna fucking go back to that?!
Why don't we go well back to fucking season two?
- You're overreacting. - You ----ed it up.
Why don't we go back to season two?
- This is-this is why the relationship turned toxic.
Look at this. You can't reason with this woman.
And I've realized that, and I've ended things with her.
This is what I need to say.
Daisy and I hooked up before the season.
I rang Gary, and I told him,
I said, "hey, bro, I just wanna know how you feel."
He was stoked about it. I told Glenn.
I said, "hey, this is gonna add another spanner in the works,
but Daisy and I--" Glenn was happy about it.
Daisy was in my hotel room days before filming.
We had started something already.
So we go into the show, and I've got this--
- Okay, hold on, can I just interrupt one thing
before you--
so you hooked up before the show.
At that point,
had she told you that she and Gary had hooked up?
Or was that a surprise to you as you were filming--
- I found that out halfway through the season filming.
- Why don't we go back to season two
when we finished filming, when you were in
your serious relationship with your girlfriend,
and you pulled me aside in the bar,
and you were like, "oh, if I was single,
you are definitely the person I wanted to hook up with."
And you grabbed me by my waist, and I flicked it off,
and I was like, "fuck you."
Then end of season three, you pulled me aside,
down on the pontoon when we were having a party,
and you were like, "I really wanna kiss you."
And I was like, "okay, well, this is awkward
because you're in a serious relationship."
- What's wrong with that? - So I got up and walked away.
So don't fucking-- if you want to start bringing up bullshit...
- How is it bullshit?
What have I said that's bullshit, Daisy?
- No, but you're--
- If you're gonna start bringing up those things--
[overlapping chatter]
- Yeah, I was in relationships-- - Okay, fine--
- Okay, so those things are true.
- I've always had a crush on Daisy, yeah,
and I told her that to her face.
- Coming up...
Daisy, are you gaslighting him?
[sniffling]
- Welcome back
to the "Below Deck Sailing Yacht" reunion.
I'm Andy Cohen. Let me ask you this,
if you all had hooked up before the season started,
why hide that? - Why make out with Alex?
[laughter]
- No offense to Daisy,
but I think you kissed Alex on the first night,
but you were hooking up with Colin.
- Exactly. - So I,
A, wasn't trying to start a relationship.
I wasn't like, I kissed this guy three times
so I'm in a relationship.
B, I didn't know about-- - But I thought you just said
you said liked each other. - His current girlfriend.
I'm speaking.
I didn't know about his current girlfriend
that he was hooking up with.
Okay, so, C,
when he had told me about this girl,
it made me take a step back.
Yes, I was still hooking up with him.
Guess what? I'm 36 in 2023,
I can kiss multiple people
and not feel ashamed for it.
So, yeah, when Colin and I were kissing,
we still hadn't slept together at this stage,
and he told me that he'd been sleeping with someone else,
I was like, okay, well, I guess we're, like...
kinda figuring stuff out.
So the Alex and I kiss during "Truth or Dare..."
that was extremely drunken and not very affectionate,
not-- I mean, I'd happily
affectionately kiss Alex anytime.
But that certain kiss was not affectionate.
It was a drunken truth or dare,
and for me to be held accountable for that
when, yeah, okay, Colin and I kissed in a hotel room,
oh, my god, so what, now I'm exclusive?
No, and it made me put my walls up
when I found out that he'd been sleeping with someone.
- It was a lot deeper than that, Daisy, and you know that.
I was sleeping with this other girl on my boat, yes.
I was telling her about Daisy. I was telling Daisy about Brit.
- I didn't know about this girl. - It was all out in the open.
- I didn't know about this girl, because I owe you the truth,
but you don't owe me the truth.
- I told you everything about her, Daisy.
I told you about her the whole time.
I told her about you-- - Not till we got to the boat.
- This is why it's toxic, Andy. Can you see?
- It doesn't seem great.
- Yeah, 'cause I'm a crazy bitch.
- After she blocked me, because now I'm with this girl,
because she treats me really fucking good,
and she blocked me on Instagram,
let the world know that there's a problem.
I've just sat back-- - No, no, no, no!
That's not what fucking happened!
- ...all this stuff. Let me finish. Let me finish.
I've just sat back and I've just chosen this
to be my moment to explain some very important details
as to why I was so hurt during the season,
why it was so confusing.
And I think anyone who can sit--
I think only Daisy can sit there with zero remorse
and turn this around on me. It's a unique skill.
- Daisy, are you gaslighting him?
- Dais-- [sniffling]
- Daisy, come on. - Fuck this.
- We knew this was gonna happen.
There's no-- what I've said is the truth.
I've just laid it all out there.
Now it's my fault that I'm with somebody else,
because we turned toxic? It makes no sense.
- You just have to maybe take her feelings
as well into account.
Like, I-- listen, I don't want to involve myself,
but she clearly did like you a lot.
And you, too, and it's not a nice situation.
- Yeah, and-- - Three years of friendship,
three years of friendship, not just because
you were, like, getting together,
but that's hard as well. To lose that is hard.
- 100%. 100%, Luce.
[sniffling]
- Daisy, what made you leave?
- I'm fucked either way.
I'm always gonna be the bigger, angry, crazy woman.
I'm never gonna win. It's...
It's never gonna matter what I say.
It's never gonna matter my actions--
- Of course it does.
- I'm never gonna get validation by feeling.
[sniffling] So I talk--
I defend myself, I'm defensive.
I sleep with someone, I'm a slut.
I speak up, I'm angry or toxic.
I stay silent, and I'm weak.
- No, no, Daisy,
I think I can speak for the rest of the crew not involved
that we're all quite empathetic of all three of you.
You know, I think you've been slighted,
I think Colin's been slighted, and so has Gary.
It's just an unfortunate situation,
but nobody thinks that you're malicious,
and I don't think Colin's malicious.
And I think I can speak for everyone saying
it's just an unfortunate situation,
but we're quite empathetic for all three of you.
[sniffling] - Thank you.
I appreciate that. - Facts.
- It's true. - Well said.
- Thanks, Chase. - I mean, Colin,
you had real feelings for Daisy, right?
- Thousand percent. Totally, the whole way--
the whole time. Before the season,
during the season, after the season.
Genuine connection.
I did my very, very, very fucking best
to try to be with this woman.
I flew her all around the place.
I was trying to make it work.
She-- you know, this isn't-- this isn't, uh,
badmouthing Daisy,
but she was sort of pushing me away a little bit,
trying to figure out if it was real.
And unfortunately, by the time she figured out
it was real, I had sort of...
- Moved on to someone else.
- We were arguing exactly as we are tonight.
And then 6 to 8 weeks later,
I start being with somebody else.
- You also slept with her when you and I
were trying to be together, - I told you about everything.
- You made me feel so guilty about Gary.
I eventually stopped talking to him.
I eventually stopped being friends with him.
- Daisy, do you think-- Do you think--
You've watched the show. Do you think--
do you think my insecurities about Gary are justified?
You have just watched - Oh, why don't we do
a fucking show about you and your girlfriend?
Why don't we do that?
When you're out there living with her on a boat?
Why don't we film that?
- Well, I am interested, though, in his question, Daisy.
It's a fair question. So ask it again, Colin.
- Looking back at the show, I was insecure about Gary.
And watching the show,
I've seen a thousand conversations
and acts and, you know, all of this stuff
that's just news to me and-and--
and outright shocking to me.
- But you were also flirting with Ileisha the whole time
and trying to decide if you wanted to be with me
or Ileisha so...
- Coming up...
- Only you have the magic art-- - Only me, I know.
The crazy-ass fucking woman. That woman!
- We're back with
the "Below Deck Sailing Yacht" reunion.
Ileisha, how do you respond to Daisy's, uh, saying to Colin
that he was flirting with you all season,
and that was confusing to her?
- Um, I guess that's kind of the first time
that I've-- that I've heard that, really.
Um, to that extent. Um, Colin and I
got on really well from the first minute we met
just because, I guess, Aussie-Kiwi.
We just kinda got each other as friends.
Um, and I think we really connected.
But I had a boyfriend.
I had no idea what was going on with Daisy and Colin.
- Is anyone gonna back me up on this?
- I'm so oblivious. - That's fair.
There's definitely definite chemistry between Ileisha and I.
We get along so well.
Like she said, we're from down under.
- Oh, you should have pursued that, then.
- But I'm curious what the point of this is.
Is it for me to apologize for, uh,
having a pretty good friendship with Ileisha
and detract from how you treated me?
- I never asked for an apology.
- Did it feel flirtatious, to you, Ileisha?
- I mean, like-- Like Colin said,
there's definitely chemistry there,
but I'm not going to pursue something
when I have a boyfriend, you know, so...
- Oh, but when I have chemistry with Gary,
I'm a big fucking slut who flirts with everyone.
But I'm not allowed to have chemistry with anyone.
But he's allowed to have chemistry with whoever he wants.
- I didn't say that.
- Daisy-- Hey, Daisy, who--
Who's calling you a slut? - Jesus Christ.
- Who's-- who-- - Yeah, I'm not--
- Who's calling you a slut? - Fucking everyone online.
Everyone online. The big fucking slut.
- Well, people online are assholes.
- Calling me crazy. I'm so over this.
- Well, guess what? It's a bunch of trolls online.
So... - We're not saying that.
You know, what's said on Twitter--
- No, you're not. I don't know.
I don't know what I was supposed to do.
It's like--
- We love you, Dais. - You're damned if you do
and you're damned if you don't. Like, it's bullshit.
- Colin, was there a moment between Gary and Daisy
that surprised you the most,
that you weren't privy to while you were filming?
- The number of times that, uh, the topic came up,
whether Daisy was just with me
and Gary was with Mads out of spite,
and that those two should actually be together.
And Gary going multiple times
saying, "I like you, you like me."
Basically, uh, expressing his interest in her,
which I don't think was genuine, by the way.
I think it was more ego-driven, but maybe he can speak to that.
Um, but that's how I was observing it
and the things that I've seen and the conversations.
And then I mean, it was pretty shocking
to see, um, them pretty much making out
the night that Bonnie came.
I think they just got lucky with the security cameras
not catching it there.
But Gary saying, "Daisy..." trying to kiss me or whatever.
- Stop. - ...kiss me.
- Stop it. - Daisy...
- You did that.
- This is all extremely shocking when,
at that point, um, Daisy and I were a--
a-a true boat couple at that time.
- I think Colin doesn't take acknowledgment for what he did.
He was 100% flirting with Ileisha.
I mean, whatever that was.
And he also turned up to the boat
telling me he had been sleeping with someone else.
- The thing that killed me all season, Daisy,
was that you kept over and over and over telling me
that you didn't have feelings for Gary,
and that it was me that you wanted to be with
over and over and over. - That's true.
- Uh, and then I'm watching it back...
- It's still true. - I don't feel that's the case.
And I don't know how you can ask--
- Okay, well...
- I don't even know how you can turn--
- From my perspective. - You have the magic art--
- Only me, I know. The crazy-ass fucking woman.
That woman. Yeah, I get it.
- Here we go.
- Yeah, I know, we can't talk over you, Dais,
but whenever we're having a conversation,
then you're quite happy to interrupt us.
I'm sorry, I just had to put that out there.
- Daisy. - Yeah, okay, Gary.
Well, keep that fuckin'--
- Daisy-- Daisy, let me ask you this.
Putting yourself in Colin's shoes,
seeing what he saw between you and Gary,
do you understand how he would be rankled
or questioning?
- I feel nothing but remorse and shame
for how I behaved with Gary.
I didn't think it was right.
I think I'm a very flirty person.
But I also think I went into a huge defense mechanism.
I was pushing somebody away because I was-I was scared.
I was scared of getting hurt. - Got it.
Gary, what's your response to what Colin said?
- Um... - I mean, if you were Colin,
and you had seen what went on between you and Daisy,
how would you have reacted?
- No, I think he's got all the right
to react like he did. But I'm also just confused
at the whole situation, from the start to the end.
If they were spending time in the hotel together,
and they did say they have feelings-- true feelings
for each other, why come onto the season like--
Yeah, but you guys were say-- yeah, well, now, Dais,
now you're saying something different
than what happened in the hotel room.
Yes, you kissed, but, if you had feelings for someone,
why come into the season and be completely, like,
not sep-- well, separate?
And none of us crew besides for you and Colin
knew about this. And I think Lucy--
- Because I [indistinct],
and he had been sleeping with--
- I'm talking!!! - ...and I said...
and I said, you need to be on your own.
I was like, you've gone from girlfriend
to girlfriend to girlfriend.
I was like, it is time to spend time on your own.
So I brought myself back.
So, yes, there were feelings there,
but there was very much a protection thing
that I was like, well, there's feelings there,
but I need him to be on his own, and to--
to just figure his-- like, himself out,
be on his own.
- If Colin said-- - Well, I'm sorry, I'm not--
the next person I'm gonna be with,
I hope to be with for the rest of my life.
I'm sorry, I don't need it to be fucking overnight.
I'm allowed to take my time.
I'm allowed to-- I don't have to be
in a serious relationship, I don't have to be exclusive.
I'm allowed to breathe a second.
- Mads, to me, I-I'm wondering, you know,
after seeing how badly Gary wanted to hook up with you
and then seeing him trying to kiss Daisy,
how did that land with you?
- I think I was kind of in the same boat
as Ileisha and Colin, too.
You don't see the conversations that everyone's having.
So it was definitely shocking.
Everyone was messy, so I don't know.
- Yeah, I agree.
- Gary, seems like you broke bro code
a number of times with your friend.
I mean, he seemed like he was being
pretty clear with you and you were sending him
some pretty hardcore mixed messages.
- Um, what, about Daisy and I hooking up?
- Yeah, about Daisy and you hooking up,
about you saying, "I don't have feelings for her.
"I'm fine with this." - I don't--
Yeah, well...
I mean, I don't know. - Well, you liked Mads, Gary.
- Uh, at the time, yeah. But I'm just saying--
- You liked Mads? - Oh, Jesus Christ.
Um... - There's a lot of hypocrisy
involved in all the stories. - Everyone was playing games.
- That's my point. - I wasn't.
- Like, everyone
was involved in it and... Well, like I'm saying,
within their drama, um, they all played a part.
- Gary, let me ask you this.
Why did you tell Colin you had no interest in Daisy
and you were happy they got together
and then you go to Daisy
and tell her you have feelings for her?
Who'd you lie to?
- Um, I probably lied to myself in the end.
In the end, Andy.
Um, I think that was my jealous side coming out.
Um, I think, yes, maybe deep down
there was something I felt for Daisy.
And I was happy for Colin to be with her.
Don't get me wrong, I was very happy.
Um, but seeing how it's worked out right now,
how toxic as this is all happening,
maybe it's for the best that it didn't.
- Daisy, Do you think Gary has genuine feelings for you
or is he like...
a child who wants a toy
if someone else is playing with it?
- My toy! My toy!
[chuckling]
- Uh, to be honest, I felt like a piece of meat
between the two of them.
I felt like-like I was-- I was a prize.
It felt like it was an ego competition.
I don't think Gary had genuine feelings for me.
I do think we have a genuine connection
in the sense that
when you do the show and you have this bond and...
we've been through so much and we do--
we do make each other laugh and feel good,
but I think that's just on a feel-good level.
And I think he confused that,
and I think I'm allowed to confuse that.
I think we're all trying to figure things out.
- And that's what happens when you live on a yacht
on top of each other.
- Colin, did you and Daisy feel like you had
a genuine possibility for a future together?
- I was giving it 100%.
We had some incredible, incredible times together,
some great memories.
Um, but I think, uh,
as you've probably witnessed tonight,
is that we trigger each other.
And it did turn quite toxic towards the end.
And unfortunately for Daisy,
and I do sincerely feel bad for her about this,
but I realized that a little bit before she did.
Um, and I was able to move on because of it.
But yeah, I don't envy her to-to be in that position.
It's never nice to feel, uh, rejected
or anything like that,
and I sincerely feel bad for her in that moment.
- Okay calm down, Colin. - But at the same time--
- Let's say--
Ugh, fuck. Whatever.
- Listen to me for one second.
You blocked me on Instagram.
You went on "Watch What Happens Live"
and said, I have a lot of explaining to do.
You would come in guns blazing-- - Why--
why did I block you? Why did I block you?
- Why did you?
- No! I couldn't give a shit!
You have a girlfriend!
Oh, the girl that you said-- oh, I'm not even--
I'm not even gonna go there.
Don't even go there. Don't even go there.
Okay. So I blocked you because...
I muted your stories,
'cause I didn't wanna see it.
Then I--
heard some stuff, I got angry,
so I stopped you from seeing my stories.
That was it. I just didn't want you--
want you to see what I was doing.
And then you went on and made me unfollow you.
So you were still following me,
but I was unfollowing you. But you did that.
So then-- - I never did that.
- I was getting all these DMs,
being like, why are you unfollowing Colin?
- I never did that. - I was like, well,
fuck this bullshit. I'm fuckin' blockin' ya!
- That... that never happened.
I did not do that.
That literally never happened.
- I have a text message,
of you saying when I said,
"Why did you stop me following you?" and you said
"Because you blocked me from my stories."
And I quote,
"My people told me."
Don't fucking gaslight me here, you prick!
I fucking messaged ya, don't even start, Colin.
- You-you...
This is minor, but you have stopped letting me see stories.
And then you said something about
no man that can ever not make a smoothie
can be with me or something.
And-- - Which was nothing to do with you.
It was a fucking joke. Jesus Christ.
It was a 30 second Instagram story.
- Colin, do you not know how to make a smoothie?
[laughter] - No.
- Andy!
[laughter]
- Coming up...
- Were you in love with him?
- We are back wrapping up
The "Below Deck Sailing Yacht" season four reunion.
Daisy were you in love with him?
- Um, no.
I think we were like, definitely, you know,
very strong feelings
and to the point of, you know, possibly
we were falling in love, but, no, I wasn't.
I was more betrayed
by the fact that he didn't tell me
he was with this girl.
I thought we were friends.
I thought we broke up in friendship.
And knowing that all of these people in this screen
knew this for months before I did,
it was humiliating.
- Who told you, Daisy?
- I don't want to say who. Everyone knew.
- Was it you, Glenn?
- I confess it was Chase. No, just kidding.
[laughter]
- It could have been me, and I just don't remember.
I have no clue. - Okay.
Glenn, what is your reaction
to these three amigos kind of breaking up?
It's sad. - It's very sad.
I think Gary
could have been less flirty with Daisy,
but I think if I were in Colin's shoes,
I would expect Daisy to push back a bit harder
when Gary's being flirty.
And I think that's just their nature.
I'm not-I'm not, you know,
I'm not condemning them for that.
But I think that's just--
we're all very close together.
But I did see Daisy push back a couple of times on Gary.
and both my girlfriend and I
we were like, Go, Daisy, you know.
But I think there should have been more of that.
But I could see how it would make Colin upset,
and that's all I'm going to say.
Daisy, I love you. Gary, I love you,
- Gary and Daisy,
where do you two go from here?
- If we have to work together, we work together.
And in between seasons, you know,
we happen to be in the same place we talk,
but we really don't have that much of a relationship.
Obviously, I'm always gonna be his friend,
if he needs me.
- Gary, where is your friendship with Colin these days?
- I think Colin and I are pretty good.
We still chat every now and then.
- It doesn't seem great to me.
- We're friends.
Gary messaged me yesterday, you know, saying,
How-how am I feeling going into him,
And I said, Yeah, I'm going to speak my mind,
I'm going to say some things,
but nothing that I haven't said to your face
about how I was feeling.
So, yeah, we're okay. I-I forgave both of them.
- Well, before I leave this topic,
is there anything that any of the three of you
say to close this out?
- We literally just banged through
all the episodes very recently.
So it's-it's fresh.
There's a lot of emotion.
Um, but I think Gary and I are going to be okay,
and we'll see about Daisy and I,
but I'm open-- I'm open for it.
I was just taken aback by
her "Watch What Happens Live" appearance.
- Gary, you want to say what?
- No, I think Colin hit the nail on the head there.
Um, I mean, I don't ever see Colin
because he's traveling the world on his catamaran,
which I'm very jealous about.
But if we do, I'll definitely make the time to see each other.
Dais, also, I guess,
Yeah, it's a rocky, rocky relationship.
Um, if we ever have to work together in the future,
it'll be a professional relationship.
But I don't think we're ever going to be how we were.
So yeah, unfortunately.
- Oh...
Daisy, I want to give you-- - Yeah, that's just me--
That's just me being honest.
- I want to give you the last word, Daisy.
- Oh, I'm just-- I'm sorry for being emotional.
And that's what you get
for kinda putting your heart on the line.
And I love them both.
And they've taught me a lot about myself.
And, you know, I just, you know, I have regrets,
but more importantly, I know I have a good heart
and I know my intentions are good.
And yes, onwards and upwards.
- All right, I have a few more questions
before we officially bring this charter season to a close.
Alex, I hear you're on the new season of Winter House.
How was that experience for you?
- Imagine a Below Deck Sailing crew night out,
but for three straight weeks.
It's absolutely pandemonium.
Um, so yeah, stay tuned.
You'll definitely get to see, you know,
a different version of Alex, most likely, so.
- I'm trying to hook Chase up with Countess Luann.
[laughter]
- I still haven't heard from Countess Luann,
and I'm pretty upset about it.
- You're going to. I'm gonna--
- I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.
- I know you're kidding, but I'm not.
You know, the episode hasn't aired
where you say you have a massive penis,
so maybe that'll change things.
[laughter]
Maybe each of you could say your Rose and Thorn from the season,
starting with Ileisha.
- The worst is just, um...
like, hurting myself, you know?
And having to-- to kick on and keep-- continue to cook,
even when you're exhausted,
and slaving on three, four hours a night.
And the best part of it was just making friends for life.
It was amazing. So, you know,
that's my pit and peak.
- Lucy, what about you? - The worst,
I think the amount of times I fell over,
and, um, hurt myself. [laughing]
Or broke something. And definitely the best,
I would say, you know,
our crew nights out when we were drunk
on the same level was just like no other.
Like, we were cake fightin', we were nuts.
- Chase, what about you?
- We really had a great season.
So that was my high, and my low was leaving.
I miss everybody. I really do.
It's sad to leave, and make friends and family
with these people, and then have to say goodbye.
- Mads? - My downsides were just
as, like, a woman, kind of...
the amount of times I was embarrassed by the boys,
like, that I was put in situations
that kinda sucked.
Um, and I know it wasn't usually done out of
malicious intent, but it did suck for me.
And my high was definitely just...
that we actually did all really get along.
We all are...
somewhat decent human beings,
and, like, care for each other, so...
[laughing]
- Alex, what was your Rose and Thorn?
- Thorn, I would probably go with...
having to watch Colin lose to Lucy in a rugby drill.
[laughing] Um...
that...
- I have that! I have that video!
- Three times! - I literally looked at that,
and I was like, "Oh my god!"
- Embarrassin'! - That was pretty gnarly.
Um, and then the highs, uh, there were so many.
I mean, just some of, like, the conversations I had
one-on-one with these guys.
It was cool that I leveled with everybody like that,
and walk away from the boat with all friends,
for the most part.
- Colin? - The worst thing
was the engine troubles. Obviously that was just pretty--
just set me back from the get-go.
Like everyone else is saying, you go through something
that is extremely unique, and, uh, I don't think
there's anything like it out there,
where you're working as hard as we are,
but also, um, you know, getting filmed 24 hours a day.
- Kind of surprised that your thorn
was the engine problems, and not the result
of your relationship with Daisy.
- It had a huge impact on my overall mood,
as well, having the engines failing multiple times,
and the exhaust always smoking, and, um,
it just put a downer on my whole first couple of weeks.
And then, so that kind of made me more affected
by everything else that was going on.
- Gary? - I walked out there
with a lot of money, and I was really happy
about that. Um, the thorn--
was probably quite a few of them.
But perhaps my egotistical behavior throughout the season.
- Daisy?
- Um, I'm gonna have two highs, which is
my relationship with the interior team,
it was just amazing. It was just great energy.
And also my relationship with Colin at the time,
um, was amazing, and I'm glad we had that,
even if it turned sour in the end.
And my thorns were...
me and my actions affecting...
my, Colin, and Gary's relationship
and our friendships. And also, probably me
being kind of a bitch to Glenn.
He was just trying to do his job.
So, uh, yeah, sorry!
- All right, Glenn, what about you?
- My thorn would probably have to be
hearing that that engine was full
to the top with saltwater.
It's like-- it looked like we were not
gonna have a season.
Rose would have to be actually making it
through that season.
It was an amazing season, an amazing crew,
and I'm just glad we got to the end of it.
- All of us. - You all made it.
- Exactly, we all got to the end
and we survived.
- Yeah, every one of us.
- All right, well, I want to thank Captain Glenn
and the entire Parsifal III crew
for a great season.
I'm Andy Cohen, good night, everybody.
**
- Night, Andy. - Thank you.