1 00:00:07,114 --> 00:00:09,518 Justin Bieber in crisis. 2 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:14,862 Man, I think that there were times where I was really, really suicidal. 3 00:00:14,863 --> 00:00:20,273 Like, really, like, man, is this pain ever going to go away? 4 00:00:20,274 --> 00:00:22,411 His fans worry... 5 00:00:23,213 --> 00:00:25,317 he's back on drugs. 6 00:00:30,327 --> 00:00:32,463 I spoke to the rep for the Biebers 7 00:00:32,464 --> 00:00:37,542 who denied that Justin Bieber is taking any hard drugs. 8 00:00:37,642 --> 00:00:39,880 His marriage, anything but easy. 9 00:00:39,980 --> 00:00:44,488 Hailey said that at one point, she didn't want to do this anymore. 10 00:00:45,390 --> 00:00:48,998 Justin Bieber, during his career, has made somewhere between 11 00:00:49,131 --> 00:00:52,505 half a billion dollars and a billion dollars. 12 00:00:53,373 --> 00:00:55,143 His fortune, squandered. 13 00:00:55,144 --> 00:00:57,849 I was on a call with multiple people. 14 00:00:58,116 --> 00:01:00,154 Justin's side acknowledged 15 00:01:00,622 --> 00:01:06,465 in 2022, he was on the verge of, and the words were, financial collapse. 16 00:01:08,236 --> 00:01:11,743 Friends and business associates he ghosted say 17 00:01:11,844 --> 00:01:13,479 it's because... 18 00:01:14,849 --> 00:01:18,122 his church has a grip on him. 19 00:01:18,223 --> 00:01:19,860 Cut to the chase. 20 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,497 They are saying this is a cult. 21 00:01:30,347 --> 00:01:32,552 TMZ has dug deep. 22 00:01:32,653 --> 00:01:36,258 And what we uncover is shocking. 23 00:01:37,061 --> 00:01:38,665 Go. Get out of here! 24 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:43,139 TMZ Investigates: What Happened to Justin Bieber? 25 00:01:46,446 --> 00:01:49,017 I need somebody to tell me what the [bleep] is going on with Justin Bieber. 26 00:01:49,018 --> 00:01:52,860 Pop sensation Justin Bieber is opening up about his mental health. 27 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,400 And the impact it's had on his three-year marriage to model Hailey Bieber. 28 00:01:57,401 --> 00:01:59,137 Justin Bieber posted this video, 29 00:01:59,138 --> 00:02:00,707 look at this, to Instagram today. 30 00:02:00,708 --> 00:02:02,577 Saying he's postponing some upcoming shows 31 00:02:02,578 --> 00:02:04,915 because he has something called Ramsay Hunt Syndrome. 32 00:02:04,916 --> 00:02:07,054 I gotta... 33 00:02:07,154 --> 00:02:09,091 I gotta go get my... 34 00:02:09,225 --> 00:02:11,094 my rest on. 35 00:02:11,095 --> 00:02:13,800 Justin Bieber has reportedly cancelled the remaining dates 36 00:02:13,801 --> 00:02:15,704 of his Justice World tour. 37 00:02:15,705 --> 00:02:17,842 Reports are sweeping the internet that Justin Bieber 38 00:02:17,843 --> 00:02:20,213 has fired long-time manager Scooter Braun. 39 00:02:20,214 --> 00:02:22,050 And the two haven't spoken in months. 40 00:02:22,051 --> 00:02:24,087 For a fee of $200 million, 41 00:02:24,088 --> 00:02:28,697 Justin Bieber has sold off the entire rights to all of his music. 42 00:02:32,237 --> 00:02:37,883 A long-time friend believes the pop star who sold more than 150 million records 43 00:02:38,083 --> 00:02:40,185 is, in his words, in a cult. 44 00:02:40,186 --> 00:02:44,729 31-year-old has appeared thinner with dark eye circles. 45 00:02:48,838 --> 00:02:49,839 It's money. 46 00:02:49,939 --> 00:02:51,576 You don't care about people. 47 00:02:51,676 --> 00:02:53,246 Only money. 48 00:03:07,608 --> 00:03:12,785 So look, I mean, we have talked to a lot of people 49 00:03:12,786 --> 00:03:16,091 who are really worried about Justin Bieber's mental health. 50 00:03:16,092 --> 00:03:19,465 It seems like there is cause to worry. 51 00:03:19,566 --> 00:03:21,436 Cause to worry in his own words. 52 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:23,706 I mean, he has talked now 53 00:03:23,707 --> 00:03:28,651 for eight years about his mental health struggles 54 00:03:28,751 --> 00:03:31,422 up to a point he said he considered suicide. 55 00:03:31,756 --> 00:03:35,330 There were times where I was really, really suicidal. 56 00:03:35,431 --> 00:03:38,970 Like, really, like, man, is this pain ever going to go away? 57 00:03:38,971 --> 00:03:43,613 We saw when he was coming up some of these, like, tantrums that he would throw. 58 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:46,118 But we kind of just thought, he's a kid, it's no big deal. 59 00:03:46,218 --> 00:03:50,594 What we found out from people in his world that we've spoken to, 60 00:03:51,195 --> 00:03:52,833 he's still having those tantrums. 61 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:54,903 Oh, this is funny to you guys? 62 00:03:55,771 --> 00:03:56,941 Get out of here. 63 00:03:57,041 --> 00:03:59,178 Get out of here. Go. [bleep]. 64 00:03:59,278 --> 00:04:02,785 In fact, there are people, and this is what they call them now, mantrums. 65 00:04:03,119 --> 00:04:04,154 Yo, get out of here. 66 00:04:04,254 --> 00:04:05,490 All you guys want is money. 67 00:04:05,591 --> 00:04:06,893 Money, money, money, money, money. 68 00:04:06,894 --> 00:04:09,699 Money, money, money. Get out of here, bro. 69 00:04:09,799 --> 00:04:11,804 Get out of here. Money. 70 00:04:12,939 --> 00:04:17,516 We have talked to a lot of people now in Justin's world. 71 00:04:17,883 --> 00:04:22,625 They have opened up with us about money and other things. 72 00:04:22,725 --> 00:04:25,563 And you ask about mental health, and I swear to God, 73 00:04:25,564 --> 00:04:27,635 I was on a conference call with some of them. 74 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:30,305 First thing is like, "Not talking about that." 75 00:04:30,306 --> 00:04:32,944 I mean, immediately, they're just shutting it down. 76 00:04:32,945 --> 00:04:37,253 The only reason to do that is because there's something there, clearly-- 77 00:04:37,254 --> 00:04:38,991 - Well, we've seen it. - Yeah. 78 00:04:39,091 --> 00:04:42,865 We've seen it during the Justice Tour when he was crying on stage. 79 00:04:50,246 --> 00:04:53,587 He posted this long, almost essay... 80 00:04:58,263 --> 00:05:00,299 ...On how he felt unworthy. 81 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:04,742 It is so common for celebrities to achieve success, and especially at a young age, 82 00:05:04,843 --> 00:05:06,845 that they're almost fooling people. 83 00:05:06,846 --> 00:05:11,824 That they are not as talented as the world thinks they are. 84 00:05:11,924 --> 00:05:14,361 They're not as deserving as the world thinks they are. 85 00:05:14,362 --> 00:05:17,802 And it messes them up in like a big way. 86 00:05:17,902 --> 00:05:20,974 There are so many cautionary tales out there. 87 00:05:20,975 --> 00:05:23,780 Some make it, most don't. 88 00:05:25,585 --> 00:05:30,727 A big part of it is being thrust into an adult world prematurely, 89 00:05:30,728 --> 00:05:35,537 and not going through the usual developmental stages of childhood and adolescence. 90 00:05:35,538 --> 00:05:41,582 Trying to give children and adolescents adult responsibilities is traumatic. 91 00:05:41,583 --> 00:05:44,689 Children need to be children. 92 00:05:46,660 --> 00:05:49,833 We've seen him coming out of restaurants, coffee shops, 93 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:53,072 looking frail, agitated, at paparazzi. 94 00:05:53,172 --> 00:05:55,209 Thank you, JB, bro. 95 00:05:55,210 --> 00:05:56,779 Bro, why'd you thank me? 96 00:05:56,780 --> 00:05:58,950 - Because you're the best, bro. - Don't thank me, though. 97 00:05:58,951 --> 00:06:00,954 - Thank you. - No, I think that's disrespectful to thank me, 98 00:06:00,955 --> 00:06:03,091 'cause I'm not asking you to be here. 99 00:06:03,092 --> 00:06:07,767 And he has admitted in the past to being under the influence of different things. 100 00:06:07,768 --> 00:06:12,778 MDMA, Xanax, marijuana, mushrooms. 101 00:06:12,779 --> 00:06:15,016 I was waking up in the morning and the first thing I was doing 102 00:06:15,117 --> 00:06:17,588 was popping pills and smoking a blunt and starting my day. 103 00:06:17,589 --> 00:06:23,900 One of the things that really kind of sounded the alarm was Coachella recently. 104 00:06:23,901 --> 00:06:26,471 ♪ Okay, okay, okay ♪ 105 00:06:30,581 --> 00:06:32,350 He definitely looked out of it. 106 00:06:32,351 --> 00:06:34,253 Those videos were scary. He was slumped over. 107 00:06:34,254 --> 00:06:37,460 Fans online were obviously going down huge rabbit holes of 108 00:06:37,461 --> 00:06:39,465 speculation on what he could be taking. 109 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:41,001 We saw him smoking a blunt. 110 00:06:41,002 --> 00:06:44,141 There were people saying he's on mushrooms again. 111 00:06:44,408 --> 00:06:45,878 And we've heard that buzz. 112 00:06:45,978 --> 00:06:48,114 I think what was really interesting, 113 00:06:48,115 --> 00:06:49,986 we found a woman who was standing 114 00:06:49,987 --> 00:06:51,624 literally right next to him 115 00:06:51,724 --> 00:06:53,458 for almost an hour and a half. 116 00:06:53,459 --> 00:06:58,236 And she had a very strong opinion. 117 00:06:58,771 --> 00:07:01,877 It's funny because the first time that I saw him, 118 00:07:02,010 --> 00:07:06,686 I instantly thought to myself, he looks totally normal. 119 00:07:08,289 --> 00:07:12,931 He doesn't look anything like how the media portrays him. 120 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:16,272 He just looked like a normal 30-year-old. 121 00:07:16,473 --> 00:07:19,478 It didn't seem like he was intoxicated. 122 00:07:19,579 --> 00:07:22,084 It didn't seem like he was inebriated. 123 00:07:22,250 --> 00:07:23,987 Honestly, he reminded me of 124 00:07:23,988 --> 00:07:28,462 how me and my girlfriends are when we go out, just having a good time. 125 00:07:29,866 --> 00:07:34,441 Moving on to Justin Bieber, who is himself overseas in Iceland, 126 00:07:34,542 --> 00:07:36,412 where he's been working on an album. 127 00:07:36,513 --> 00:07:38,551 He's got a lot of collaborators over there. 128 00:07:38,651 --> 00:07:40,753 And when you're getting creative, 129 00:07:40,754 --> 00:07:43,392 apparently, you go for a couple of bong rips. 130 00:07:43,393 --> 00:07:49,237 It is a much more serious problem now because of since legalization, 131 00:07:49,238 --> 00:07:53,981 the concentration of THC in weed is just-- it approaches 100%. 132 00:07:54,081 --> 00:07:57,187 So it is much more profoundly addictive. 133 00:07:57,287 --> 00:08:02,831 And there's much more significant psychiatric problems associated with it. 134 00:08:02,832 --> 00:08:05,135 I spoke to the rep for the Biebers 135 00:08:05,136 --> 00:08:08,744 who denied that Justin Bieber is taking any hard drugs. 136 00:08:08,844 --> 00:08:12,117 I know the same thing his people have told me, 137 00:08:12,217 --> 00:08:15,758 that all of this talk of hard drugs is nonsense. 138 00:08:19,097 --> 00:08:23,641 His team told me that he's in the best place he's ever been in his entire life. 139 00:08:23,741 --> 00:08:28,684 He's crying out, basically telling everyone, "I'm trying to figure out stuff. 140 00:08:29,185 --> 00:08:31,187 "I don't know what's going on. 141 00:08:31,188 --> 00:08:32,223 "I need help." 142 00:08:32,323 --> 00:08:33,593 And maybe he's getting help. 143 00:08:33,694 --> 00:08:35,364 And this is him working through it. 144 00:08:35,464 --> 00:08:39,204 But to say he's in the best place he's been in his entire life? 145 00:08:39,304 --> 00:08:40,941 It doesn't make sense. 146 00:08:40,942 --> 00:08:43,245 It's like, who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes? 147 00:08:43,246 --> 00:08:47,087 So one of the big things we keep hearing, too, is that Justin is kind of a little bit like 148 00:08:47,187 --> 00:08:48,722 Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. 149 00:08:48,723 --> 00:08:51,061 He can be very sweet, but then... 150 00:08:51,062 --> 00:08:55,804 can turn that around and can have this really strong narcissistic personality. 151 00:08:55,805 --> 00:08:59,211 So it's kind of always like, which one are you gonna get? 152 00:08:59,311 --> 00:09:00,614 It doesn't make you unstable. 153 00:09:00,715 --> 00:09:01,650 It just means you're trying to cope. 154 00:09:01,783 --> 00:09:04,253 - Right. - You've got to find some way to cope. 155 00:09:04,254 --> 00:09:06,960 And it's impossible to think that a celebrity can be sweet all the time, right? 156 00:09:07,060 --> 00:09:09,131 - No, no, no. - Nobody can be sweet all the time. 157 00:09:09,231 --> 00:09:10,567 Right. 158 00:09:10,568 --> 00:09:12,371 I mean, you think, oh, my God, he's Justin Bieber. 159 00:09:12,471 --> 00:09:13,740 He's gotta have the perfect life. 160 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,476 It's like, how many times have we heard that? 161 00:09:15,577 --> 00:09:18,149 And it just is not true. 162 00:09:21,824 --> 00:09:25,263 Coming up, Justin's marriage: a rocky road. 163 00:09:25,765 --> 00:09:29,004 Hailey said that at one point she didn't want to be with him anymore. 164 00:09:29,104 --> 00:09:32,644 On the other hand, there are people we've talked to who have said 165 00:09:32,645 --> 00:09:35,116 that she kind of viewed this marriage 166 00:09:35,117 --> 00:09:38,222 as a young version of Jay-Z and Beyoncé. 167 00:09:51,550 --> 00:09:52,919 So when you think of Justin Bieber, 168 00:09:53,052 --> 00:09:56,625 you can't help but to think of him and Hailey together. 169 00:09:56,626 --> 00:09:58,461 They're an iconic couple. 170 00:09:58,462 --> 00:10:01,401 Everywhere they step out, paparazzi are following them. 171 00:10:07,882 --> 00:10:10,954 But their marriage has been extremely hard, 172 00:10:10,955 --> 00:10:14,294 and it seems like at one point they almost even split up. 173 00:10:14,394 --> 00:10:17,834 - Justin, we love you! - We love you! 174 00:10:17,835 --> 00:10:20,608 Justin would be, like, on and off with Selena 175 00:10:20,708 --> 00:10:23,146 and then, like, be on and off with Hailey. 176 00:10:23,547 --> 00:10:27,955 Shortly after Selena and Justin broke up, he was out with Hailey. 177 00:10:28,056 --> 00:10:29,924 A lot of people online were saying that 178 00:10:29,925 --> 00:10:33,566 she was just waiting on the sidelines like an understudy. 179 00:10:34,836 --> 00:10:37,775 Beautiful! That's gorgeous! 180 00:10:38,242 --> 00:10:42,685 You have these two young, high-profile celebrities that are married, 181 00:10:42,819 --> 00:10:45,758 and they hit a lot of road bumps. 182 00:10:45,858 --> 00:10:47,529 Hailey was pretty open about it, 183 00:10:47,629 --> 00:10:51,268 and so was Justin about all the marriage troubles that they had. 184 00:10:51,368 --> 00:10:55,175 Hailey said that at one point she didn't want to do this anymore. 185 00:10:55,176 --> 00:10:59,451 She gets treated like crap by his fans, 186 00:10:59,585 --> 00:11:01,756 who still are under this belief that 187 00:11:01,757 --> 00:11:05,196 he and Selena are meant to be together. 188 00:11:16,653 --> 00:11:20,493 On the other hand, there are people we've talked to who have said 189 00:11:20,595 --> 00:11:23,132 that she kind of viewed this marriage 190 00:11:23,133 --> 00:11:25,604 as a young version of Jay-Z and Beyoncé. 191 00:11:25,704 --> 00:11:29,445 But it's not like she just wanted to go off into the sunset quietly with Justin Bieber. 192 00:11:29,579 --> 00:11:31,783 I don't think she minds the spotlight-- 193 00:11:31,883 --> 00:11:33,919 I think she loves the spotlight. 194 00:11:37,762 --> 00:11:42,102 What she doesn't love is how what has come for her with that spotlight 195 00:11:42,103 --> 00:11:46,312 is the abuse from fans who think that she's stalked him. 196 00:11:46,412 --> 00:11:50,620 I'm convinced that Hailey was a stalker, 100%. 197 00:11:50,621 --> 00:11:52,357 Justin had a lot of trauma, 198 00:11:52,458 --> 00:11:56,398 so taking that into a marriage was very difficult for them. 199 00:11:56,399 --> 00:12:00,775 And he pretty much had a breakdown in, like, the first year of their marriage. 200 00:12:00,875 --> 00:12:02,578 - Yeah. - Hailey had said that 201 00:12:02,711 --> 00:12:06,184 she called her mom crying when they were both in Manhattan. 202 00:12:06,185 --> 00:12:09,089 And she said she was telling her mom, "I just can't do it." 203 00:12:09,090 --> 00:12:11,328 And there was also lack of trust. 204 00:12:11,329 --> 00:12:14,735 Hailey was around him, she's known him long enough that 205 00:12:14,736 --> 00:12:19,813 when he was admittedly dating or sleeping with lots of different women. 206 00:12:19,913 --> 00:12:21,348 Yeah, she knew he was a playboy. 207 00:12:21,448 --> 00:12:23,051 When he talked about being promiscuous and a playboy, 208 00:12:23,052 --> 00:12:24,655 she was around and saw all that. 209 00:12:24,656 --> 00:12:27,226 She doesn't really have anything to be insecure about 210 00:12:27,227 --> 00:12:29,732 because she married him and he is head over heels in love with her. 211 00:12:29,832 --> 00:12:33,939 And they have an absolutely adorable son who is just precious and who they love. 212 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:35,643 Justin! 213 00:12:35,644 --> 00:12:38,583 Selena, to your left! 214 00:12:38,950 --> 00:12:41,354 So look, I mean there are people all around them 215 00:12:41,355 --> 00:12:44,994 that have said Selena is a thorn in their side. 216 00:12:44,995 --> 00:12:46,900 Not because Selena's done anything, 217 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,107 it's their and especially Hailey's perception of Selena. 218 00:12:51,108 --> 00:12:53,078 - It's in Hailey's head. - Yeah. 219 00:12:53,179 --> 00:12:55,984 As they say, Selena is living rent free in Hailey's head. 220 00:12:55,985 --> 00:12:58,890 There are people we've talked to have said to this day, 221 00:12:58,990 --> 00:13:01,361 Selena is on her mind. 222 00:13:01,729 --> 00:13:03,633 Selena's almost like a benchmark for her. 223 00:13:03,634 --> 00:13:07,941 And you know, it's like from allegedly copying her tattoo. 224 00:13:07,942 --> 00:13:09,912 Right, even like certain quotes. 225 00:13:09,913 --> 00:13:12,551 So January 24th, 2020, Selena says... 226 00:13:12,552 --> 00:13:16,994 I realized that everybody else seemed to be narrating my life for me. 227 00:13:17,127 --> 00:13:18,495 - Yes. - So why don't I 228 00:13:18,496 --> 00:13:22,705 put something out that is my side of the story? 229 00:13:22,805 --> 00:13:25,242 A month later, Hailey says... 230 00:13:25,343 --> 00:13:27,047 I realized that... 231 00:13:27,147 --> 00:13:31,889 I was able to tell my story about who I was from my own mouth. 232 00:13:31,890 --> 00:13:37,367 Instead of people from the outside being able to tell my story for me. 233 00:13:37,467 --> 00:13:38,736 That's pretty similar. 234 00:13:38,737 --> 00:13:40,908 - A month later. - Yeah. 235 00:13:41,442 --> 00:13:44,481 Beebs, are you thinking about dropping Scooter? 236 00:13:44,916 --> 00:13:47,587 Justin has had severe money trouble. 237 00:13:47,588 --> 00:13:50,826 And, you know, people we've talked to, 238 00:13:50,827 --> 00:13:52,698 they've said they spend like crazy. 239 00:13:52,798 --> 00:13:53,934 But Hailey does too. 240 00:13:54,034 --> 00:13:56,170 And there was a story about the Justice Tour 241 00:13:56,171 --> 00:13:59,277 where Justin had this huge jet. 242 00:13:59,278 --> 00:14:02,315 And Hailey wanted the same type of jet. 243 00:14:02,316 --> 00:14:04,688 And the tour managers were saying, 244 00:14:04,689 --> 00:14:06,659 you guys are spending too much money. 245 00:14:06,759 --> 00:14:08,294 Can she take a smaller jet? 246 00:14:08,295 --> 00:14:11,234 And we're told, she said, "Absolutely not." 247 00:14:11,235 --> 00:14:15,376 That's the jet that Kylie has and I'm not taking a lesser jet. 248 00:14:15,476 --> 00:14:16,813 Now, that's what we hear. 249 00:14:19,351 --> 00:14:23,125 What are the two things that get marriages in trouble? 250 00:14:23,126 --> 00:14:25,730 - Sex and money. - Mm. 251 00:14:25,831 --> 00:14:28,201 Money is such a driver of conflict. 252 00:14:28,202 --> 00:14:30,941 And they were having huge money trouble. 253 00:14:31,041 --> 00:14:33,613 And it's unsurprising 254 00:14:33,814 --> 00:14:35,883 if that bled over into their relationship. 255 00:14:35,884 --> 00:14:37,452 ♪ Ride like a pony ♪ 256 00:14:37,453 --> 00:14:40,793 ♪ Lights down low, time to get naughty ♪ 257 00:14:40,794 --> 00:14:42,097 ♪ Lights down low ♪ 258 00:14:42,197 --> 00:14:43,967 The woman in Palm Springs, 259 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:48,475 she said they were loving during that concert. 260 00:14:48,476 --> 00:14:51,115 I can say that I witnessed with my own eyes, 261 00:14:51,215 --> 00:14:52,349 they're very much in love. 262 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:54,989 He was very affectionate towards her. 263 00:14:55,089 --> 00:14:57,360 He was hugging her, kissing her. 264 00:14:57,460 --> 00:14:59,865 And she's very protective of him, 265 00:15:00,065 --> 00:15:01,067 which I could tell as well. 266 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:04,373 Justin is clearly, not only clearly going through it, 267 00:15:04,374 --> 00:15:06,177 he's saying he is. 268 00:15:06,178 --> 00:15:09,084 So if he's saying he is in public, 269 00:15:09,184 --> 00:15:10,988 what's he saying in private? 270 00:15:11,723 --> 00:15:14,962 One of our sources said that one of the issues was 271 00:15:15,062 --> 00:15:16,967 that he smokes a lot of marijuana. 272 00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:19,270 And that at some point, she said, 273 00:15:19,271 --> 00:15:20,774 "You got to slow down, we have a kid." 274 00:15:20,874 --> 00:15:24,682 He came into that marriage with already a lot of issues. 275 00:15:24,782 --> 00:15:28,488 He came into the marriage thinking she could fix him. 276 00:15:28,489 --> 00:15:29,725 Yeah. 277 00:15:29,825 --> 00:15:31,729 - And that's pressure... - On her. 278 00:15:31,730 --> 00:15:33,867 ...That's hard to deal with. 279 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,470 They have worked it out. 280 00:15:35,571 --> 00:15:38,009 They do seem tight. 281 00:15:38,109 --> 00:15:40,279 They do seem very much in love. 282 00:15:40,379 --> 00:15:43,752 So, you know, every marriage is going to have issues. 283 00:15:43,753 --> 00:15:45,724 And theirs definitely has. 284 00:15:49,131 --> 00:15:50,601 Coming up. 285 00:15:50,701 --> 00:15:54,174 Justin Bieber during his career has made somewhere between 286 00:15:54,307 --> 00:15:56,912 half a billion dollars and a billion dollars. 287 00:15:56,913 --> 00:16:02,591 Yet, he had to sell his music catalog because he was broke. 288 00:16:02,592 --> 00:16:04,060 Which is breathtaking. 289 00:16:12,410 --> 00:16:14,582 ♪ Not a rhythm of your heart beat ♪ 290 00:16:14,715 --> 00:16:17,119 ♪ Can you listen up for me? ♪ 291 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,658 Give it up for Justin! 292 00:16:20,192 --> 00:16:22,663 Oh, the legend! 293 00:16:22,664 --> 00:16:26,171 Justin Bieber during his career has made somewhere 294 00:16:26,271 --> 00:16:29,812 between half a billion dollars and a billion dollars. 295 00:16:29,813 --> 00:16:36,425 Yet, he had to sell his music catalog because he was broke. 296 00:16:36,559 --> 00:16:37,561 Which is breathtaking. 297 00:16:37,562 --> 00:16:39,064 ♪ And I say, oh ♪ 298 00:16:39,164 --> 00:16:41,367 ♪ The way I breathe you in ♪ 299 00:16:41,368 --> 00:16:43,973 ♪ It's the texture of your skin ♪ 300 00:16:43,974 --> 00:16:48,115 Money seems to be at the root of all of this, 301 00:16:48,215 --> 00:16:52,322 and the big money is Justin's music. 302 00:16:52,323 --> 00:16:53,993 Hey, Justin. 303 00:16:54,093 --> 00:16:55,328 Because when you listen to Bieber's side, 304 00:16:55,329 --> 00:16:56,933 they say he wrote everything. 305 00:16:57,099 --> 00:16:59,069 And when you talk to Scooter's side, guess what? 306 00:16:59,070 --> 00:17:00,841 He wrote none of his hits. 307 00:17:00,941 --> 00:17:03,012 But if you look at all of his songs, 308 00:17:03,112 --> 00:17:06,217 he is listed as one of the writers. 309 00:17:06,218 --> 00:17:08,722 That also, we should say, that's not uncommon. 310 00:17:08,723 --> 00:17:13,265 Like, once we heard that from Scooter's side that, well, 311 00:17:13,365 --> 00:17:15,336 Justin didn't actually write these, 312 00:17:15,436 --> 00:17:17,508 it didn't strike me as all that odd. 313 00:17:17,608 --> 00:17:19,844 Justin's people were really offended by that. 314 00:17:19,845 --> 00:17:20,780 I'm sure they were. 315 00:17:20,914 --> 00:17:23,552 And they said he actually wrote those songs. 316 00:17:23,553 --> 00:17:27,528 But you can technically-- let's say Justin gets a demo, 317 00:17:27,628 --> 00:17:30,733 and we know that he got demos for some of these 318 00:17:30,734 --> 00:17:33,405 hit songs that were written by other people. 319 00:17:33,506 --> 00:17:35,676 We've spoken to the people who actually wrote them 320 00:17:35,677 --> 00:17:37,346 and sent the demos to him. 321 00:17:37,347 --> 00:17:41,722 If Justin says, you know what? I don't like this note. 322 00:17:41,822 --> 00:17:44,226 - Yeah. - And he changes one note, 323 00:17:44,227 --> 00:17:45,830 well, that's it. Now he's justified. 324 00:17:45,930 --> 00:17:48,737 We talked to somebody who he was a collaborator with 325 00:17:48,837 --> 00:17:50,774 who said he sent Justin a demo, 326 00:17:50,874 --> 00:17:52,143 and Justin didn't change a thing. 327 00:17:52,244 --> 00:17:53,812 - "Despacito." - Yet he is still listed. 328 00:17:53,813 --> 00:17:56,050 ♪ Despacito ♪ 329 00:17:56,051 --> 00:17:58,956 ♪ Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito ♪ 330 00:17:58,957 --> 00:18:01,360 ♪ Deja que te diga cosas al oído ♪ 331 00:18:01,361 --> 00:18:04,701 Poo Bear wrote that song that he recorded. 332 00:18:04,802 --> 00:18:09,310 And what we're told, and this is not from Scooter's side, 333 00:18:09,410 --> 00:18:12,551 this is-- we know this, 334 00:18:12,651 --> 00:18:17,326 that the artist says that he did a demo for Justin. 335 00:18:17,327 --> 00:18:20,198 And not just a demo on "Despacito", 336 00:18:20,199 --> 00:18:23,972 but on every song he wrote. 337 00:18:23,973 --> 00:18:25,778 And Justin never changed the demo. 338 00:18:25,911 --> 00:18:27,413 Didn't change it a bit. 339 00:18:27,514 --> 00:18:31,155 That the demo is exactly like the recorded song. 340 00:18:31,255 --> 00:18:33,258 So Justin was basically a singer. 341 00:18:33,259 --> 00:18:36,164 If it's true that Justin Bieber didn't write 342 00:18:36,264 --> 00:18:40,473 a lot of the songs that he's gotten credit for, that's not unheard of. 343 00:18:40,574 --> 00:18:42,176 It's not that it happens all the time 344 00:18:42,276 --> 00:18:43,679 with all the artists that we love. 345 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,487 But it would not be the first time that a major star 346 00:18:47,588 --> 00:18:50,292 put their name on a song that they didn't really write 347 00:18:50,293 --> 00:18:51,695 or barely wrote at all. 348 00:18:51,696 --> 00:18:54,267 Scooter fought so hard for him to get these rights that 349 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,306 he actually burned so many bridges with other artists. 350 00:18:57,307 --> 00:18:58,710 So here it is. 351 00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:01,749 Poo Bear, what do you mean, "Despacito?" 352 00:19:01,849 --> 00:19:04,087 Poo Bear, what's poppin' baby? 353 00:19:04,755 --> 00:19:07,894 Ed Sheeran and Benny Blanco, they wrote "Love Yourself", 354 00:19:07,895 --> 00:19:11,702 and after the song was released, Ed Sheeran did a documentary, 355 00:19:11,703 --> 00:19:14,608 and you see the two of them recording the song, 356 00:19:14,609 --> 00:19:16,711 writing the song, and Justin's nowhere in sight. 357 00:19:16,712 --> 00:19:22,090 ♪ For all the times that you rained on my parade ♪ 358 00:19:22,825 --> 00:19:24,694 "Boyfriend" was written by Mike Posner. 359 00:19:24,695 --> 00:19:28,334 "Sorry" was written by Julia Michaels and Justin Tranter. 360 00:19:28,335 --> 00:19:29,972 So the bottom line is, 361 00:19:30,072 --> 00:19:31,609 according to Scooter's camp, 362 00:19:31,710 --> 00:19:35,617 Justin wouldn't have had this $200 million publishing deal 363 00:19:35,717 --> 00:19:38,388 if it wasn't for Scooter getting him 364 00:19:38,389 --> 00:19:40,125 the publishing right on all this music 365 00:19:40,126 --> 00:19:41,729 that he had really nothing to do with writing. 366 00:19:41,829 --> 00:19:43,498 Some of these writers wouldn't have hits 367 00:19:43,499 --> 00:19:46,003 if Justin Bieber hadn't sung their songs. 368 00:19:46,004 --> 00:19:47,472 - Yeah. - So they were fine 369 00:19:47,473 --> 00:19:49,678 with giving Justin some of the publishing rights. 370 00:19:49,778 --> 00:19:54,955 And so, you know, look, the through line here is that 371 00:19:55,055 --> 00:19:59,398 Justin's people say, "Oh, Scooter screwed Justin." 372 00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:01,702 But when it comes to this, 373 00:20:01,802 --> 00:20:03,605 aggressiveness worked on Justin's-- 374 00:20:03,606 --> 00:20:06,679 On this, I don't see how Scooter screwed Justin. 375 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:09,117 There are other things that you could definitely question. 376 00:20:09,217 --> 00:20:10,384 This is not one of them. 377 00:20:10,385 --> 00:20:12,389 Scooter's the one who found Justin 378 00:20:12,390 --> 00:20:14,493 18 years ago and made him a superstar. 379 00:20:14,494 --> 00:20:16,532 ♪ All I'm askin' ♪ 380 00:20:16,533 --> 00:20:19,638 ♪ Is for a little respect when you come home ♪ 381 00:20:19,738 --> 00:20:20,839 ♪ Baby ♪ 382 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,375 That's what he does. That's what he's supposed to do. 383 00:20:22,376 --> 00:20:25,481 It's so crazy because when you think of Scooter 384 00:20:25,482 --> 00:20:29,490 and Justin's relationship over the years, they were so close. 385 00:20:31,963 --> 00:20:33,566 You know, you could see that 386 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:36,471 Scooter did love Justin like a son. 387 00:20:36,572 --> 00:20:39,042 And Justin did love Scooter like a father. 388 00:20:39,043 --> 00:20:40,279 You could totally see that 389 00:20:40,379 --> 00:20:42,818 just from their interactions over the years. 390 00:20:42,918 --> 00:20:44,788 We have that clip of when Justin was a kid 391 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:47,158 and he wanted to buy a toy helicopter, right? 392 00:20:47,159 --> 00:20:49,029 And it was Scooter who was saying, 393 00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,967 "No, you can't, you don't need this." 394 00:21:04,695 --> 00:21:06,365 And that's such a fatherly figure. 395 00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:08,400 Very fatherly. There's another way to look at it, 396 00:21:08,401 --> 00:21:12,276 which clearly Justin is viewing it this way now, is that, 397 00:21:12,277 --> 00:21:13,579 yeah, he loved me. 398 00:21:13,713 --> 00:21:15,182 Yeah, he was being like a father to me 399 00:21:15,283 --> 00:21:18,120 because I was making him incredibly rich. 400 00:21:18,121 --> 00:21:19,691 - Yeah. - I was the golden goose. 401 00:21:19,692 --> 00:21:21,861 There's an old saying, though, if you got somebody 402 00:21:21,862 --> 00:21:25,837 who's getting a percentage of your money, the richer they get, 403 00:21:25,937 --> 00:21:27,541 the richer you got. 404 00:21:31,315 --> 00:21:34,220 This is a tale that is as old as the music industry. 405 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,323 Yes, there's always going to be someone else 406 00:21:36,324 --> 00:21:38,095 who's making money off the artist. 407 00:21:38,195 --> 00:21:40,834 But if the artist feels like that person is getting too much... 408 00:21:40,934 --> 00:21:44,675 - Yeah. - ...Then this is where you end up. 409 00:21:48,316 --> 00:21:49,551 Coming up. 410 00:21:49,552 --> 00:21:51,253 I was on a call with multiple people. 411 00:21:51,254 --> 00:21:56,264 Justin side acknowledged that in 2022 he was on the verge of, 412 00:21:56,364 --> 00:21:58,902 and the words were, financial collapse. 413 00:21:58,903 --> 00:22:02,644 How on earth do you blow through a billion bucks? 414 00:22:11,361 --> 00:22:14,702 ♪ That if I can't be close to you ♪ 415 00:22:14,802 --> 00:22:17,674 ♪ I'll settle for the ghost of you ♪ 416 00:22:17,774 --> 00:22:21,882 ♪ I miss you more than life ♪ 417 00:22:24,154 --> 00:22:28,628 The breaking point for Justin Bieber and Scooter Braun, 418 00:22:28,629 --> 00:22:32,871 but really Justin, is the Justice Tour. 419 00:22:33,305 --> 00:22:34,875 ♪ She's confident ♪ 420 00:22:34,975 --> 00:22:37,346 ♪ You could tell by the way she walks in the room ♪ 421 00:22:38,081 --> 00:22:43,124 That is the tour where Justin pulled the plug in the middle 422 00:22:43,125 --> 00:22:45,597 and went into massive debt 423 00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:48,067 and the fans were pissed off. 424 00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:50,572 And there was just a lot of finger pointing. 425 00:22:50,573 --> 00:22:55,482 So the show kicked off in February 2022. 426 00:22:55,583 --> 00:22:59,725 Justin did 49 shows and then he pulls the plug 427 00:22:59,825 --> 00:23:03,699 and he doesn't do the remaining 81 shows. 428 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:05,703 Justin Bieber revealing on social media 429 00:23:05,704 --> 00:23:08,240 that he has been diagnosed with Ramsay Hunt syndrome, 430 00:23:08,241 --> 00:23:11,180 a rare condition causing paralysis of part of his face 431 00:23:11,181 --> 00:23:14,353 and forcing him to postpone dates on his current tour. 432 00:23:14,453 --> 00:23:16,858 This is really interesting. So Ramsay Hunt is 433 00:23:16,859 --> 00:23:19,263 a really serious condition where you can get shingles 434 00:23:19,264 --> 00:23:20,933 in your inner ear, 435 00:23:20,934 --> 00:23:23,740 you lose your balance and you can get Bell's palsy, which is, 436 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,443 you know, a facial paralysis. 437 00:23:25,577 --> 00:23:27,178 - Which we saw with him. - Yeah, we saw that 438 00:23:27,179 --> 00:23:29,785 he had like lack of mobility on one side of his face. 439 00:23:29,786 --> 00:23:33,859 As you can see, this eye is not blinking. 440 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:36,999 I can't smile on this side of my face. 441 00:23:37,266 --> 00:23:39,404 This nostril will not move. 442 00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:41,608 He still has a little of that. 443 00:23:41,609 --> 00:23:43,478 He still has a little of that. 444 00:23:43,479 --> 00:23:47,052 Anybody that was watching his social media, watching the concerts from afar, 445 00:23:47,152 --> 00:23:49,322 you saw him break down. 446 00:24:00,345 --> 00:24:02,551 And we see him on stage crying, 447 00:24:02,651 --> 00:24:05,355 breaking down to the audience and everyone's like, 448 00:24:05,356 --> 00:24:06,659 what is going on with Justin? 449 00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:08,528 He's not in a good place. 450 00:24:08,529 --> 00:24:10,266 Scooters Camp has told us 451 00:24:10,366 --> 00:24:13,204 he just thinks Justin wanted to go home. 452 00:24:13,205 --> 00:24:14,641 - Right. - That he was just tired. 453 00:24:14,642 --> 00:24:16,244 He wanted to spend more time with Hailey. 454 00:24:16,377 --> 00:24:17,880 He wanted to go on vacation. 455 00:24:17,881 --> 00:24:19,717 He wanted to live his life without going on tour. 456 00:24:19,718 --> 00:24:21,588 Yeah, but then our Justin sources say 457 00:24:21,589 --> 00:24:23,057 that he was set up for failure. 458 00:24:23,058 --> 00:24:25,931 That he was, you know, he was put out there like 459 00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:28,703 a show pony to do all these tricks 460 00:24:28,803 --> 00:24:31,642 and shows every single night. 461 00:24:32,009 --> 00:24:33,847 There's an advance that AEG paid. 462 00:24:33,947 --> 00:24:36,819 - We know this from both sides. - Right. 463 00:24:36,919 --> 00:24:40,527 So AEG, which threw the concert, 464 00:24:40,627 --> 00:24:44,399 gives Justin a $40 million advance. 465 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,404 When Justin cancels the tour, 466 00:24:46,405 --> 00:24:50,411 AEG says, "Hey, you owe us, $24 million." 467 00:24:50,412 --> 00:24:52,182 And Justin's like, 468 00:24:52,851 --> 00:24:53,786 "I don't have the money." 469 00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:58,996 And so Scooter's company, HYBE, they say, look, 470 00:24:59,097 --> 00:25:03,571 we'll assume this debt and we'll pay it off for you, Justin. 471 00:25:03,572 --> 00:25:07,146 So Justin then signs a note saying 472 00:25:07,246 --> 00:25:10,485 he'll pay Scooter's company that $24 million back 473 00:25:10,486 --> 00:25:12,255 over a 10 year period. 474 00:25:12,256 --> 00:25:14,326 And he makes one payment. 475 00:25:14,427 --> 00:25:16,063 And this is where the conflict starts. 476 00:25:16,064 --> 00:25:20,204 So we're told from Scooter's side that Justin's people called 477 00:25:20,205 --> 00:25:22,611 and said he doesn't have the money to pay anymore 478 00:25:22,744 --> 00:25:24,113 and he's never paid another payment. 479 00:25:24,213 --> 00:25:28,822 Now, from Justin's side, they're saying, well, 480 00:25:28,823 --> 00:25:31,961 his accountant, his business manager, Lou Taylor, 481 00:25:31,962 --> 00:25:37,272 started digging and said Scooter was way overpaid commissions. 482 00:25:37,273 --> 00:25:39,409 Justin said, you screwed me. 483 00:25:39,410 --> 00:25:41,013 You took way too much in commissions. 484 00:25:41,147 --> 00:25:46,491 So Scooter orders an internal audit from HYBE, his company, 485 00:25:46,592 --> 00:25:47,860 and they look at all the books 486 00:25:47,861 --> 00:25:50,232 and they come out and they say, guess what? 487 00:25:51,702 --> 00:25:54,742 Justin owes me a million bucks. 488 00:25:54,842 --> 00:25:56,243 I don't owe him anything. 489 00:25:56,244 --> 00:25:58,581 He owes me a million dollars, based on the audit. 490 00:25:58,582 --> 00:26:01,187 But see, if I'm Justin, I look at that and say, 491 00:26:01,287 --> 00:26:03,591 Well, of course you guys are going to say that. 492 00:26:03,592 --> 00:26:05,294 You hire-- It's your company. 493 00:26:05,295 --> 00:26:06,932 It's HYBE that did the audit. 494 00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:09,937 And we know Justin's people said that. 495 00:26:09,938 --> 00:26:14,380 So Scooter then hires an independent company. 496 00:26:14,481 --> 00:26:15,782 Price Waterhouse. 497 00:26:15,783 --> 00:26:17,451 Same people that do the Oscars. 498 00:26:17,452 --> 00:26:19,389 They do the Oscars. They do the Oscar tallies. 499 00:26:19,390 --> 00:26:21,562 They're a very respectable, independent accounting firm. 500 00:26:21,662 --> 00:26:25,669 Price Waterhouse spent six months doing an audit 501 00:26:25,670 --> 00:26:29,175 and it comes back in April. 502 00:26:29,176 --> 00:26:32,917 Last month, it comes back and it shows 503 00:26:33,018 --> 00:26:35,622 Justin did not owe Scooter a million. 504 00:26:35,623 --> 00:26:37,661 He owed him more than eight million. 505 00:26:37,761 --> 00:26:39,295 - Oops. - Almost nine million. 506 00:26:39,296 --> 00:26:41,199 - Almost nine million dollars. - Almost nine million dollars. 507 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,337 Remember, Justin's the one who asked 508 00:26:43,338 --> 00:26:44,907 for this independent audit 509 00:26:44,908 --> 00:26:47,011 and it gets it back and it says he owes eight million. 510 00:26:47,012 --> 00:26:49,683 So that whole plan has gone south. 511 00:26:49,684 --> 00:26:51,722 What we find out is that after that, 512 00:26:51,822 --> 00:26:53,292 he doesn't like that number. 513 00:26:53,392 --> 00:26:54,828 His team does their own audit, 514 00:26:54,928 --> 00:26:57,700 but they won't tell us what the results of that audit. 515 00:26:57,701 --> 00:27:00,673 And we've been talking to both sides 516 00:27:00,674 --> 00:27:03,111 and they will not say anything about it. 517 00:27:03,244 --> 00:27:06,585 They won't dispute the eight plus million dollar figure. 518 00:27:06,685 --> 00:27:10,158 But we were told he doesn't even want that money. 519 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:15,704 By the way, if Justin had just finished that tour, 520 00:27:15,804 --> 00:27:17,641 he would have made 90 million dollars. 521 00:27:17,775 --> 00:27:20,547 - Yeah, that's the estimate that we've heard, right? - 90 million dollars. 522 00:27:20,647 --> 00:27:22,550 When you're rolling in dough, 523 00:27:22,651 --> 00:27:25,055 all of this doesn't matter that much. 524 00:27:25,156 --> 00:27:26,491 When you're broke, 525 00:27:26,592 --> 00:27:30,098 and you want to start blaming people, that's when it matters. 526 00:27:30,099 --> 00:27:32,804 I was on a call with multiple people. 527 00:27:32,805 --> 00:27:36,410 Justin's side acknowledges that in 2022, 528 00:27:36,411 --> 00:27:37,946 he was on the verge of, 529 00:27:37,947 --> 00:27:40,887 and the words were, "financial collapse." 530 00:27:41,221 --> 00:27:44,292 And that's why he had to sell his catalog. 531 00:27:44,293 --> 00:27:48,068 He was so broke in 2022, that he had to borrow-- 532 00:27:48,168 --> 00:27:50,672 Will Bracey, who is a member of the church-- 533 00:27:50,673 --> 00:27:52,543 - And his C.O.O. - And his C.O.O. 534 00:27:52,644 --> 00:27:55,248 He had to borrow Will's credit card, so he could go play golf. 535 00:27:55,249 --> 00:27:57,118 - That's how broke he was. - That's what we've heard. 536 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,488 He could not afford a round of golf. 537 00:27:58,489 --> 00:27:59,723 But it's not cheap to be 538 00:27:59,724 --> 00:28:01,293 the biggest pop star in the world. 539 00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:03,665 Turn your head! 540 00:28:03,666 --> 00:28:05,101 Justin! Justin! 541 00:28:05,102 --> 00:28:06,506 I just want you to back up a bit. 542 00:28:07,841 --> 00:28:09,511 You're good, you're good. 543 00:28:09,711 --> 00:28:10,912 Yo, Justin, you all right, big guy? 544 00:28:10,913 --> 00:28:12,415 He is the biggest pop star in the world. 545 00:28:12,416 --> 00:28:14,554 Of course he has to charter jets. 546 00:28:14,555 --> 00:28:16,491 Of course he has mega mansions. 547 00:28:16,592 --> 00:28:20,299 Which, by the way, we were told he paid cash for all the houses. 548 00:28:20,432 --> 00:28:23,505 And it struck us when he made that-- that sale, 549 00:28:23,506 --> 00:28:24,807 and they announced the sale. 550 00:28:24,808 --> 00:28:27,146 Justin Bieber just sold his music catalog 551 00:28:27,246 --> 00:28:32,589 for an estimated measly $200 million. 552 00:28:32,590 --> 00:28:34,259 - It was shocking. - We were all like, 553 00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:37,767 why is Justin Bieber, at such an early stage in his career, 554 00:28:37,867 --> 00:28:38,969 selling off his catalog? 555 00:28:39,103 --> 00:28:41,039 And there were other people who were selling their catalogs, 556 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,612 - but they were all much older. - They're much older. 557 00:28:43,613 --> 00:28:45,248 And so it was like, why is he selling this-- 558 00:28:45,249 --> 00:28:46,986 - Sold out of desperation. - I'm telling you... 559 00:28:47,086 --> 00:28:49,824 Justin, Hailey, and Michael Rhodes... 560 00:28:49,825 --> 00:28:51,093 His attorney. 561 00:28:51,094 --> 00:28:53,098 ...went to Scooter and said, 562 00:28:53,198 --> 00:28:56,804 "We've gotta sell this catalog." Scooter said no. 563 00:28:56,805 --> 00:28:59,142 And finally, when Scooter realized 564 00:28:59,143 --> 00:29:01,181 they were gonna sell it, this was in December, 565 00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:02,883 Scooter said, at least wait until January, 566 00:29:02,884 --> 00:29:05,354 because you'll get a tax break if you wait 'til January. 567 00:29:05,355 --> 00:29:08,227 And Justin said, "I've gotta sell it now." 568 00:29:08,228 --> 00:29:10,565 And he sold it in December. That's how broke he was. 569 00:29:10,566 --> 00:29:16,979 But, you know, how on earth do you blow through a billion bucks? 570 00:29:17,112 --> 00:29:19,216 Eight buses. 571 00:29:19,217 --> 00:29:23,325 Eight buses, one that you do a renovation for two million on. 572 00:29:23,993 --> 00:29:26,229 Insisting on flying on only heavy jets. 573 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:28,234 Can't take a light, regular jet. Justin and Hailey wanted to-- 574 00:29:28,335 --> 00:29:29,738 You're talking about The Justice Tour. 575 00:29:29,838 --> 00:29:31,106 Yeah, on The Justice Tour. 576 00:29:35,182 --> 00:29:36,985 I mean, he just spent and spent. 577 00:29:36,986 --> 00:29:38,788 Right now, he's in Iceland, 578 00:29:38,789 --> 00:29:41,694 in a hotel for almost $60,000 a night, rented out the place. 579 00:29:41,695 --> 00:29:46,304 In Justin's defense, he was 13 years old when he became a star. 580 00:29:46,605 --> 00:29:47,440 He doesn't understand money. 581 00:29:47,541 --> 00:29:52,784 And, you know, maybe Scooter should have, 582 00:29:52,951 --> 00:29:54,419 you know, schooled him better 583 00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:56,423 on money management as he's growing up. 584 00:29:56,424 --> 00:29:59,128 Because like you said, if he's a surrogate father, 585 00:29:59,129 --> 00:30:01,367 you've gotta do something with your kid. 586 00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:02,871 And Justin was, I mean, 587 00:30:02,971 --> 00:30:06,409 from everybody we've talked to, even on Justin's side, 588 00:30:06,410 --> 00:30:08,548 that he just spent wildly. 589 00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:11,588 This is almost a psychology thing. 590 00:30:11,688 --> 00:30:14,594 That when you go broke this way... 591 00:30:16,064 --> 00:30:17,465 you want to blame somebody. 592 00:30:17,466 --> 00:30:18,802 - Yeah. - And... 593 00:30:18,903 --> 00:30:21,073 then the question is, who's to blame? 594 00:30:21,074 --> 00:30:23,845 I think Scooter bears some responsibility 595 00:30:23,846 --> 00:30:27,386 for not teaching him better when it came to money. 596 00:30:27,486 --> 00:30:29,925 I mean, I think that's fair. 597 00:30:30,025 --> 00:30:31,561 To be fair to Scooter, 598 00:30:31,562 --> 00:30:34,534 maybe he attempted to, but how much does a kid want to hear? 599 00:30:34,634 --> 00:30:35,368 Like... 600 00:30:35,503 --> 00:30:37,371 There's only so much Scooter can do. 601 00:30:37,372 --> 00:30:39,243 And that's true of not just a manager, 602 00:30:39,376 --> 00:30:40,444 that's true of a parent. 603 00:30:40,445 --> 00:30:43,050 Everything that we've seen as far as legally, 604 00:30:43,051 --> 00:30:45,623 on contracts and deals that were made... 605 00:30:45,723 --> 00:30:47,092 And audits, and audits. 606 00:30:47,193 --> 00:30:51,334 And audits, it seems very clear that Scooter is owed money, 607 00:30:51,434 --> 00:30:54,239 and Scooter didn't do anything underhanded. 608 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,311 Everything was in contracts that Justin signed, 609 00:30:57,312 --> 00:30:59,249 and even reaffirmed, years later. 610 00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:01,420 So, I don't see how Scooter is wrong. 611 00:31:01,521 --> 00:31:04,828 I can see how Justin feels like Scooter is the bad guy. 612 00:31:04,928 --> 00:31:07,766 But legally, he's not-- he's not in the wrong. 613 00:31:07,767 --> 00:31:12,409 And so, then the question becomes, 614 00:31:12,543 --> 00:31:14,379 who's in Justin's ear? 615 00:31:16,819 --> 00:31:18,420 Coming up... 616 00:31:18,421 --> 00:31:19,890 Him having a relationship with his pastor 617 00:31:19,891 --> 00:31:21,393 is not all that shocking. 618 00:31:21,394 --> 00:31:24,802 But when the pastor is now sitting on the board 619 00:31:24,902 --> 00:31:27,105 of a company that Justin founded, 620 00:31:27,106 --> 00:31:30,112 people who get cut out of Justin's life 621 00:31:30,212 --> 00:31:31,982 are pointing a finger at Judah. 622 00:31:32,082 --> 00:31:33,586 Well, cut to the chase. 623 00:31:33,686 --> 00:31:36,457 They are saying, this is a cult. 624 00:31:40,767 --> 00:31:42,937 We meet once a month, guys. 625 00:31:54,695 --> 00:31:56,163 Move back. Move back. 626 00:31:56,263 --> 00:31:59,838 There's a kinda common thread that has gone through 627 00:31:59,938 --> 00:32:04,780 Justin Bieber's life since he became famous. 628 00:32:04,781 --> 00:32:08,054 That he always has, like, a Svengali. 629 00:32:08,522 --> 00:32:11,259 He had Scooter Braun, who was not just his manager, 630 00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:13,297 but is like a surrogate father. 631 00:32:13,298 --> 00:32:16,838 And then, you know, he gets Carl Lentz, 632 00:32:16,939 --> 00:32:21,146 who is part of a church, the pastor of a church, Hillsong, 633 00:32:21,147 --> 00:32:23,151 that he just gloms on to. 634 00:32:23,251 --> 00:32:25,757 And he is Justin's guru. 635 00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:29,329 And now there's another one, Judah Smith. 636 00:32:29,631 --> 00:32:32,804 And Judah Smith is different. 637 00:32:32,904 --> 00:32:37,446 Thank you, Justin, for the opportunity. 638 00:32:37,547 --> 00:32:40,052 He has a ton of influence over Justin. 639 00:32:40,152 --> 00:32:41,755 Some people are saying, like, 640 00:32:41,855 --> 00:32:43,390 he's actually controlling Justin. 641 00:32:43,391 --> 00:32:45,029 And not just his personal life, 642 00:32:45,129 --> 00:32:46,698 - his business life. - Right. 643 00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:48,200 And that's where it becomes 644 00:32:48,201 --> 00:32:50,439 an issue where it's not just about, this is, I mean, 645 00:32:50,540 --> 00:32:52,577 Justin's been religious for a long time. 646 00:32:52,677 --> 00:32:56,416 And so, him having a relationship with his pastor is not all that shocking. 647 00:32:56,417 --> 00:33:00,760 But when the pastor is now sitting on the board 648 00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:02,796 of a company that Justin founded... 649 00:33:02,797 --> 00:33:04,167 His clothing line. Drew House. 650 00:33:04,267 --> 00:33:05,535 ...Drew House. 651 00:33:05,536 --> 00:33:07,873 And then that relationship falls apart. 652 00:33:07,874 --> 00:33:09,810 Justin's relationship with Ryan Good, 653 00:33:09,811 --> 00:33:12,182 who he co-founded Drew House with. 654 00:33:13,852 --> 00:33:15,120 His best man at his wedding. 655 00:33:15,121 --> 00:33:16,590 Best man at his wedding. 656 00:33:16,591 --> 00:33:17,926 When that falls apart, people start to-- 657 00:33:17,927 --> 00:33:18,929 Scooter Braun, and Scooter Braun-- 658 00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:20,632 And Scooter Braun falls out. 659 00:33:20,633 --> 00:33:22,938 And everyone starts to, particularly, let's be honest, 660 00:33:23,038 --> 00:33:26,043 the people who get cut out of Justin's life, 661 00:33:26,277 --> 00:33:27,813 are pointing a finger at Judah. 662 00:33:27,914 --> 00:33:29,349 And saying that there's something... 663 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:31,120 He's the reason why. 664 00:33:31,221 --> 00:33:32,522 ...that he's saying or doing with Justin that 665 00:33:32,523 --> 00:33:35,294 makes Justin not trust all these people 666 00:33:35,295 --> 00:33:38,300 who've been around him, and helped him in his career, 667 00:33:38,301 --> 00:33:40,138 and personally, up to this point. 668 00:33:40,238 --> 00:33:41,542 Well, cut to the chase. 669 00:33:41,976 --> 00:33:44,345 They are saying, this is a cult. 670 00:33:44,346 --> 00:33:46,617 And that Judah is the cult leader. 671 00:33:46,618 --> 00:33:49,524 Judah has laughed at that. 672 00:33:56,237 --> 00:33:57,840 There's all of these attacks that are being, 673 00:33:57,841 --> 00:34:00,377 you know, slewn at him, and at Judah, and at Churchome. 674 00:34:00,378 --> 00:34:02,248 Saying that this is like a cult. 675 00:34:02,249 --> 00:34:04,152 It is not what they're making it out to be. 676 00:34:04,253 --> 00:34:06,222 And I think it's because for the first time in a long time, 677 00:34:06,223 --> 00:34:08,095 he has a circle of people that are protecting him, 678 00:34:08,228 --> 00:34:09,597 and really care about him. 679 00:34:09,598 --> 00:34:12,134 And the people who are obviously bringing these stories 680 00:34:12,135 --> 00:34:13,571 to the media are threatened by that. 681 00:34:16,979 --> 00:34:21,420 We spoke with a woman who actually sued the church. 682 00:34:23,158 --> 00:34:26,095 As staff member, it became very clear 683 00:34:26,096 --> 00:34:29,936 and apparent to me that one of the you have to do's 684 00:34:29,937 --> 00:34:33,210 was just, hey, you have to give money back to the church. 685 00:34:33,211 --> 00:34:36,650 10% of your gross income, this is a non-negotiable. 686 00:34:36,651 --> 00:34:41,662 To not tithe off of a paycheck that comes from a tithe 687 00:34:41,762 --> 00:34:43,164 doesn't work for me. 688 00:34:43,298 --> 00:34:45,435 I'm just going to be real clear. It just doesn't work for me. 689 00:34:45,536 --> 00:34:48,441 You are not as invested as you think you are 690 00:34:48,542 --> 00:34:50,012 if there's not a money trail. 691 00:34:50,112 --> 00:34:55,288 You are... painting the picture of a cult. 692 00:34:56,090 --> 00:34:57,492 Mhmm 693 00:34:58,194 --> 00:34:59,463 Yep. Absolutely. 694 00:34:59,564 --> 00:35:02,335 I think Churchome is a cult. Absolutely. 695 00:35:04,707 --> 00:35:08,180 The church tells us Rachel Kellogg's lawsuit was dismissed 696 00:35:08,181 --> 00:35:09,883 and her claims have been settled. 697 00:35:09,884 --> 00:35:12,422 There must be more than getting up 698 00:35:12,557 --> 00:35:15,963 and going to work and getting a paycheck and being a nice person. 699 00:35:15,964 --> 00:35:18,735 There must... be more. 700 00:35:18,736 --> 00:35:22,909 We asked to talk to Judah and he wouldn't do it. 701 00:35:22,910 --> 00:35:24,380 They gave a statement. 702 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,083 "Judah served on the Drew House Board 703 00:35:26,183 --> 00:35:28,119 at the request of both Ryan and Justin 704 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,659 without receiving any financial compensation." 705 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:34,033 When Justin started having issues with Scooter, 706 00:35:34,133 --> 00:35:39,844 a lot of people in that world think Judah was the one who drove the wedge. 707 00:35:39,845 --> 00:35:43,451 We're told Judah and Justin were going to Scooter saying, 708 00:35:43,552 --> 00:35:45,321 "Why don't you love Jesus?" 709 00:35:45,421 --> 00:35:46,957 And Scooter's Jewish. 710 00:35:46,958 --> 00:35:49,363 And was really pushing this, you know, 711 00:35:49,463 --> 00:35:52,469 excoriating Scooter for not believing in Jesus. 712 00:35:52,604 --> 00:35:55,174 And then they have this meeting. 713 00:35:55,175 --> 00:35:56,977 It was supposed to be a business meeting 714 00:35:56,978 --> 00:35:58,948 - with Justin and his attorney. - Right. 715 00:35:58,949 --> 00:36:01,955 But Lou Taylor, his business manager, was also there. 716 00:36:02,056 --> 00:36:03,390 Who was a member of the church. 717 00:36:03,391 --> 00:36:05,762 Right. And Judah. 718 00:36:05,763 --> 00:36:08,400 What we're told by an eyewitness is Justin goes 719 00:36:08,401 --> 00:36:11,641 into the meeting and says, "You [bleep] me over. 720 00:36:11,642 --> 00:36:12,944 "You [bleep] me over." 721 00:36:13,044 --> 00:36:14,479 And just keeps repeating it. 722 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,385 And Scooter's like, "What are you talking about?" 723 00:36:17,386 --> 00:36:20,825 I mean, it ain't hard to decode this, 724 00:36:20,826 --> 00:36:23,097 that somebody was in his ear. 725 00:36:23,398 --> 00:36:26,604 And it sounds like Judah and maybe Lou Taylor 726 00:36:26,605 --> 00:36:29,511 are in his ear saying, Scooter's stealing money from you. 727 00:36:29,611 --> 00:36:31,947 Why were they going after Scooter this way? 728 00:36:31,948 --> 00:36:33,518 We have eyewitnesses here. 729 00:36:33,619 --> 00:36:36,790 And the words from Lou Taylor were, 730 00:36:36,791 --> 00:36:40,265 "I am also a woman of the cloth and the ministry. 731 00:36:40,365 --> 00:36:41,934 "Justin can forgive you, 732 00:36:41,935 --> 00:36:46,745 "but he can't move forward with a relationship with you." 733 00:36:47,379 --> 00:36:49,685 How's his business manager saying that? 734 00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:52,589 The best man at his wedding, one of his closest friends-- 735 00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:54,326 - Ryan Good. - Ryan Good. 736 00:36:54,426 --> 00:36:59,603 What we're told is Justin and Judah go up to Ryan one day 737 00:36:59,604 --> 00:37:02,543 and they start, like, grilling him 738 00:37:02,544 --> 00:37:04,547 on his sex and dating life. 739 00:37:04,647 --> 00:37:06,550 Ryan, from what we're told, 740 00:37:06,551 --> 00:37:08,556 he felt that it was invasive. 741 00:37:08,656 --> 00:37:11,293 And it really turned him off from the church. 742 00:37:11,393 --> 00:37:13,330 - And we're told that-- - To Judah, not Justin. 743 00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:14,634 - To Judah. - Well, yeah. 744 00:37:14,734 --> 00:37:16,269 So him and Judah completely broke off. 745 00:37:16,270 --> 00:37:18,709 And we're told this is when Ryan started 746 00:37:18,809 --> 00:37:20,580 to feel like Churchome was a cult. 747 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,850 That's when he started using the cult word. 748 00:37:22,851 --> 00:37:24,252 And Justin cut him off. 749 00:37:24,253 --> 00:37:26,390 Justin just cut Ryan out of his life. 750 00:37:26,691 --> 00:37:31,167 Why is it that Justin has just been isolating 751 00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:33,204 from everybody in his life? 752 00:37:33,338 --> 00:37:35,041 - Except the church. - Except for Judah. 753 00:37:35,142 --> 00:37:36,678 Except for Judah. 754 00:37:41,054 --> 00:37:42,489 Coming up. 755 00:37:42,590 --> 00:37:45,360 His fans, like him, like in the past five, ten years, 756 00:37:45,361 --> 00:37:46,598 he's gotten married, he's had a kid. 757 00:37:46,698 --> 00:37:48,567 He's grown up. And so are the fans. 758 00:37:48,568 --> 00:37:50,370 They probably have kids now, too. 759 00:37:50,371 --> 00:37:52,342 If you're a teenager, if you're 15, 16 years old 760 00:37:52,442 --> 00:37:54,312 right now and a pop music fan, 761 00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:56,416 you were born when "Baby" came out. 762 00:37:56,417 --> 00:37:59,155 It is crazy to think that in his early 30s 763 00:37:59,156 --> 00:38:01,594 that he could be a legacy act. 764 00:38:15,722 --> 00:38:19,730 So Justin's in Iceland right now and he's recording music. 765 00:38:19,731 --> 00:38:24,373 The question, he has been out of the game for a while. 766 00:38:24,808 --> 00:38:27,679 Can he come back the way he was before? 767 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,882 He can. 768 00:38:28,982 --> 00:38:31,252 It's going to be a lot harder than he maybe thinks it is. 769 00:38:31,253 --> 00:38:33,123 It's been four years since his last album. 770 00:38:33,224 --> 00:38:34,358 Music has changed. 771 00:38:34,359 --> 00:38:35,795 There's been a generational shift. 772 00:38:35,796 --> 00:38:37,566 And Justin is young. He's in his early 30s. 773 00:38:37,666 --> 00:38:40,806 But he's been in the game for over 15 years now. 774 00:38:40,906 --> 00:38:43,478 He's kind of a veteran at this point. 775 00:38:43,579 --> 00:38:45,716 You would expect that whatever this album is, 776 00:38:45,817 --> 00:38:49,690 that it's probably like a number one, 777 00:38:49,691 --> 00:38:51,192 that it debuts at number one? 778 00:38:51,193 --> 00:38:52,863 It's guaranteed, pretty much. 779 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:57,172 There's still huge demand for his music, 780 00:38:57,272 --> 00:38:59,243 both old and potentially upcoming. 781 00:38:59,343 --> 00:39:02,650 He's still one of the most streamed people every month on Spotify. 782 00:39:02,750 --> 00:39:04,821 So there's been this buildup. 783 00:39:04,955 --> 00:39:08,628 And people are really excited to hear whatever comes next. 784 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:14,540 His fans, like him, in the past five, ten years, 785 00:39:14,541 --> 00:39:16,277 he's gotten married, he's had a kid. 786 00:39:16,377 --> 00:39:18,212 He's grown up. And so have his fans. 787 00:39:18,213 --> 00:39:19,950 They probably have kids now, too. 788 00:39:19,951 --> 00:39:22,122 If you're a teenager, if you're 15, 16 years old right now, 789 00:39:22,222 --> 00:39:26,732 and a pop music fan, you were born when "Baby" came out. 790 00:39:26,832 --> 00:39:30,606 It is crazy to think that in his early 30s 791 00:39:30,706 --> 00:39:32,174 that he could be a legacy act. 792 00:39:32,175 --> 00:39:34,412 ♪ I took my chick up to the north, yeah, badass bitch ♪ 793 00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:36,652 ♪ I get my light right from the source, yeah ♪ 794 00:39:36,752 --> 00:39:37,519 Sing it! 795 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:38,888 He hated touring. 796 00:39:38,889 --> 00:39:41,928 He's canceled two tours at various stages. 797 00:39:42,028 --> 00:39:45,535 And if you're a legacy act, you can be in one place, 798 00:39:45,536 --> 00:39:48,574 night after night, make a ton of money. 799 00:39:48,575 --> 00:39:51,580 He has a family, doesn't like touring. 800 00:39:51,581 --> 00:39:53,817 He may embrace being a legacy act. 801 00:39:53,818 --> 00:39:55,622 And does he want to be a pop star? 802 00:39:55,756 --> 00:39:57,759 It's honestly the big question that's not really been answered. 803 00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,194 Does he want to play the game? 804 00:39:59,195 --> 00:40:00,599 Does he want to do all those things 805 00:40:00,699 --> 00:40:02,435 you have to do when you're a relevant pop star? 806 00:40:02,436 --> 00:40:04,339 Everything we've seen is 807 00:40:04,439 --> 00:40:06,075 he doesn't want to be a pop star anymore. 808 00:40:06,076 --> 00:40:07,579 Doesn't seem like it. 809 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:09,016 And by the way, he'll still get a lot of money. 810 00:40:09,116 --> 00:40:12,956 It's not like he, like, those hotels will pay him 811 00:40:12,957 --> 00:40:16,429 huge amounts of money to do what Adele's doing. 812 00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:17,966 - Millions. - Yes. 813 00:40:17,967 --> 00:40:20,705 Ultimately, their finances are going to be fine. 814 00:40:20,706 --> 00:40:24,079 Regardless of what he might be going through, 815 00:40:24,213 --> 00:40:25,616 she's sitting on a gold mine. 816 00:40:25,716 --> 00:40:27,385 Her company, Road Beauty, 817 00:40:27,386 --> 00:40:30,058 is valued at more than a billion dollars. 818 00:40:30,291 --> 00:40:32,996 ♪ What you want from me? What you want from me? ♪ 819 00:40:33,130 --> 00:40:35,401 ♪ I wanna know ♪ 820 00:40:35,402 --> 00:40:37,271 Hey, not a bad life. 821 00:40:37,272 --> 00:40:40,745 You do a couple residencies, spend what you want to spend, 822 00:40:40,746 --> 00:40:42,917 you run out of money, you just do it again. 823 00:40:43,017 --> 00:40:45,186 The good thing for him is he's in his early 30s 824 00:40:45,187 --> 00:40:46,790 and can do whatever he wants. 825 00:40:46,791 --> 00:40:48,361 He can make music if he wants to. 826 00:40:48,461 --> 00:40:49,898 He can make the kind of music he wants to. 827 00:40:49,998 --> 00:40:51,701 He can play the game and be a pop star. 828 00:40:51,801 --> 00:40:53,070 The fans will be there if he chooses it. 829 00:40:53,170 --> 00:40:55,207 If he doesn't, it doesn't mean anything to him. 830 00:40:55,208 --> 00:40:56,710 His legacy's set. 831 00:40:56,711 --> 00:40:59,415 Everybody give it up for Justin Bieber.