Justin Bieber in crisis.
Man, I think that there were times where I was really, really suicidal.
Like, really, like, man, is this pain ever going to go away?
His fans worry...
he's back on drugs.
I spoke to the rep for the Biebers
who denied that Justin Bieber is taking any hard drugs.
His marriage, anything but easy.
Hailey said that at one point, she didn't want to do this anymore.
Justin Bieber, during his career, has made somewhere between
half a billion dollars and a billion dollars.
His fortune, squandered.
I was on a call with multiple people.
Justin's side acknowledged
in 2022, he was on the verge of, and the words were, financial collapse.
Friends and business associates he ghosted say
it's because...
his church has a grip on him.
Cut to the chase.
They are saying this is a cult.
TMZ has dug deep.
And what we uncover is shocking.
Go. Get out of here!
TMZ Investigates: What Happened to Justin Bieber?
I need somebody to tell me what the [bleep] is going on with Justin Bieber.
Pop sensation Justin Bieber is opening up about his mental health.
And the impact it's had on his three-year marriage to model Hailey Bieber.
Justin Bieber posted this video,
look at this, to Instagram today.
Saying he's postponing some upcoming shows
because he has something called Ramsay Hunt Syndrome.
I gotta...
I gotta go get my...
my rest on.
Justin Bieber has reportedly cancelled the remaining dates
of his Justice World tour.
Reports are sweeping the internet that Justin Bieber
has fired long-time manager Scooter Braun.
And the two haven't spoken in months.
For a fee of $200 million,
Justin Bieber has sold off the entire rights to all of his music.
A long-time friend believes the pop star who sold more than 150 million records
is, in his words, in a cult.
31-year-old has appeared thinner with dark eye circles.
It's money.
You don't care about people.
Only money.
So look, I mean, we have talked to a lot of people
who are really worried about Justin Bieber's mental health.
It seems like there is cause to worry.
Cause to worry in his own words.
I mean, he has talked now
for eight years about his mental health struggles
up to a point he said he considered suicide.
There were times where I was really, really suicidal.
Like, really, like, man, is this pain ever going to go away?
We saw when he was coming up some of these, like, tantrums that he would throw.
But we kind of just thought, he's a kid, it's no big deal.
What we found out from people in his world that we've spoken to,
he's still having those tantrums.
Oh, this is funny to you guys?
Get out of here.
Go. [bleep].
In fact, there are people, and this is what they call them now, mantrums.
Yo, get out of here.
All you guys want is money.
Money, money, money, money, money.
Money, money, money. Get out of here, bro.
Get out of here. Money.
We have talked to a lot of people now in Justin's world.
They have opened up with us about money and other things.
And you ask about mental health, and I swear to God,
I was on a conference call with some of them.
First thing is like, "Not talking about that."
I mean, immediately, they're just shutting it down.
The only reason to do that is because there's something there, clearly--
- Well, we've seen it. - Yeah.
We've seen it during the Justice Tour when he was crying on stage.
He posted this long, almost essay...
...On how he felt unworthy.
It is so common for celebrities to achieve success, and especially at a young age,
that they're almost fooling people.
That they are not as talented as the world thinks they are.
They're not as deserving as the world thinks they are.
And it messes them up in like a big way.
There are so many cautionary tales out there.
Some make it, most don't.
A big part of it is being thrust into an adult world prematurely,
and not going through the usual developmental stages of childhood and adolescence.
Trying to give children and adolescents adult responsibilities is traumatic.
Children need to be children.
We've seen him coming out of restaurants, coffee shops,
looking frail, agitated, at paparazzi.
Thank you, JB, bro.
Bro, why'd you thank me?
- Because you're the best, bro. - Don't thank me, though.
- Thank you. - No, I think that's disrespectful to thank me,
'cause I'm not asking you to be here.
And he has admitted in the past to being under the influence of different things.
MDMA, Xanax, marijuana, mushrooms.
I was waking up in the morning and the first thing I was doing
was popping pills and smoking a blunt and starting my day.
One of the things that really kind of sounded the alarm was Coachella recently.
♪ Okay, okay, okay ♪
He definitely looked out of it.
Those videos were scary. He was slumped over.
Fans online were obviously going down huge rabbit holes of
speculation on what he could be taking.
We saw him smoking a blunt.
There were people saying he's on mushrooms again.
And we've heard that buzz.
I think what was really interesting,
we found a woman who was standing
literally right next to him
for almost an hour and a half.
And she had a very strong opinion.
It's funny because the first time that I saw him,
I instantly thought to myself, he looks totally normal.
He doesn't look anything like how the media portrays him.
He just looked like a normal 30-year-old.
It didn't seem like he was intoxicated.
It didn't seem like he was inebriated.
Honestly, he reminded me of
how me and my girlfriends are when we go out, just having a good time.
Moving on to Justin Bieber, who is himself overseas in Iceland,
where he's been working on an album.
He's got a lot of collaborators over there.
And when you're getting creative,
apparently, you go for a couple of bong rips.
It is a much more serious problem now because of since legalization,
the concentration of THC in weed is just-- it approaches 100%.
So it is much more profoundly addictive.
And there's much more significant psychiatric problems associated with it.
I spoke to the rep for the Biebers
who denied that Justin Bieber is taking any hard drugs.
I know the same thing his people have told me,
that all of this talk of hard drugs is nonsense.
His team told me that he's in the best place he's ever been in his entire life.
He's crying out, basically telling everyone, "I'm trying to figure out stuff.
"I don't know what's going on.
"I need help."
And maybe he's getting help.
And this is him working through it.
But to say he's in the best place he's been in his entire life?
It doesn't make sense.
It's like, who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes?
So one of the big things we keep hearing, too, is that Justin is kind of a little bit like
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
He can be very sweet, but then...
can turn that around and can have this really strong narcissistic personality.
So it's kind of always like, which one are you gonna get?
It doesn't make you unstable.
It just means you're trying to cope.
- Right. - You've got to find some way to cope.
And it's impossible to think that a celebrity can be sweet all the time, right?
- No, no, no. - Nobody can be sweet all the time.
Right.
I mean, you think, oh, my God, he's Justin Bieber.
He's gotta have the perfect life.
It's like, how many times have we heard that?
And it just is not true.
Coming up, Justin's marriage: a rocky road.
Hailey said that at one point she didn't want to be with him anymore.
On the other hand, there are people we've talked to who have said
that she kind of viewed this marriage
as a young version of Jay-Z and Beyoncé.
So when you think of Justin Bieber,
you can't help but to think of him and Hailey together.
They're an iconic couple.
Everywhere they step out, paparazzi are following them.
But their marriage has been extremely hard,
and it seems like at one point they almost even split up.
- Justin, we love you! - We love you!
Justin would be, like, on and off with Selena
and then, like, be on and off with Hailey.
Shortly after Selena and Justin broke up, he was out with Hailey.
A lot of people online were saying that
she was just waiting on the sidelines like an understudy.
Beautiful! That's gorgeous!
You have these two young, high-profile celebrities that are married,
and they hit a lot of road bumps.
Hailey was pretty open about it,
and so was Justin about all the marriage troubles that they had.
Hailey said that at one point she didn't want to do this anymore.
She gets treated like crap by his fans,
who still are under this belief that
he and Selena are meant to be together.
On the other hand, there are people we've talked to who have said
that she kind of viewed this marriage
as a young version of Jay-Z and Beyoncé.
But it's not like she just wanted to go off into the sunset quietly with Justin Bieber.
I don't think she minds the spotlight--
I think she loves the spotlight.
What she doesn't love is how what has come for her with that spotlight
is the abuse from fans who think that she's stalked him.
I'm convinced that Hailey was a stalker, 100%.
Justin had a lot of trauma,
so taking that into a marriage was very difficult for them.
And he pretty much had a breakdown in, like, the first year of their marriage.
- Yeah. - Hailey had said that
she called her mom crying when they were both in Manhattan.
And she said she was telling her mom, "I just can't do it."
And there was also lack of trust.
Hailey was around him, she's known him long enough that
when he was admittedly dating or sleeping with lots of different women.
Yeah, she knew he was a playboy.
When he talked about being promiscuous and a playboy,
she was around and saw all that.
She doesn't really have anything to be insecure about
because she married him and he is head over heels in love with her.
And they have an absolutely adorable son who is just precious and who they love.
Justin!
Selena, to your left!
So look, I mean there are people all around them
that have said Selena is a thorn in their side.
Not because Selena's done anything,
it's their and especially Hailey's perception of Selena.
- It's in Hailey's head. - Yeah.
As they say, Selena is living rent free in Hailey's head.
There are people we've talked to have said to this day,
Selena is on her mind.
Selena's almost like a benchmark for her.
And you know, it's like from allegedly copying her tattoo.
Right, even like certain quotes.
So January 24th, 2020, Selena says...
I realized that everybody else seemed to be narrating my life for me.
- Yes. - So why don't I
put something out that is my side of the story?
A month later, Hailey says...
I realized that...
I was able to tell my story about who I was from my own mouth.
Instead of people from the outside being able to tell my story for me.
That's pretty similar.
- A month later. - Yeah.
Beebs, are you thinking about dropping Scooter?
Justin has had severe money trouble.
And, you know, people we've talked to,
they've said they spend like crazy.
But Hailey does too.
And there was a story about the Justice Tour
where Justin had this huge jet.
And Hailey wanted the same type of jet.
And the tour managers were saying,
you guys are spending too much money.
Can she take a smaller jet?
And we're told, she said, "Absolutely not."
That's the jet that Kylie has and I'm not taking a lesser jet.
Now, that's what we hear.
What are the two things that get marriages in trouble?
- Sex and money. - Mm.
Money is such a driver of conflict.
And they were having huge money trouble.
And it's unsurprising
if that bled over into their relationship.
♪ Ride like a pony ♪
♪ Lights down low, time to get naughty ♪
♪ Lights down low ♪
The woman in Palm Springs,
she said they were loving during that concert.
I can say that I witnessed with my own eyes,
they're very much in love.
He was very affectionate towards her.
He was hugging her, kissing her.
And she's very protective of him,
which I could tell as well.
Justin is clearly, not only clearly going through it,
he's saying he is.
So if he's saying he is in public,
what's he saying in private?
One of our sources said that one of the issues was
that he smokes a lot of marijuana.
And that at some point, she said,
"You got to slow down, we have a kid."
He came into that marriage with already a lot of issues.
He came into the marriage thinking she could fix him.
Yeah.
- And that's pressure... - On her.
...That's hard to deal with.
They have worked it out.
They do seem tight.
They do seem very much in love.
So, you know, every marriage is going to have issues.
And theirs definitely has.
Coming up.
Justin Bieber during his career has made somewhere between
half a billion dollars and a billion dollars.
Yet, he had to sell his music catalog because he was broke.
Which is breathtaking.
♪ Not a rhythm of your heart beat ♪
♪ Can you listen up for me? ♪
Give it up for Justin!
Oh, the legend!
Justin Bieber during his career has made somewhere
between half a billion dollars and a billion dollars.
Yet, he had to sell his music catalog because he was broke.
Which is breathtaking.
♪ And I say, oh ♪
♪ The way I breathe you in ♪
♪ It's the texture of your skin ♪
Money seems to be at the root of all of this,
and the big money is Justin's music.
Hey, Justin.
Because when you listen to Bieber's side,
they say he wrote everything.
And when you talk to Scooter's side, guess what?
He wrote none of his hits.
But if you look at all of his songs,
he is listed as one of the writers.
That also, we should say, that's not uncommon.
Like, once we heard that from Scooter's side that, well,
Justin didn't actually write these,
it didn't strike me as all that odd.
Justin's people were really offended by that.
I'm sure they were.
And they said he actually wrote those songs.
But you can technically-- let's say Justin gets a demo,
and we know that he got demos for some of these
hit songs that were written by other people.
We've spoken to the people who actually wrote them
and sent the demos to him.
If Justin says, you know what? I don't like this note.
- Yeah. - And he changes one note,
well, that's it. Now he's justified.
We talked to somebody who he was a collaborator with
who said he sent Justin a demo,
and Justin didn't change a thing.
- "Despacito." - Yet he is still listed.
♪ Despacito ♪
♪ Quiero respirar tu cuello despacito ♪
♪ Deja que te diga cosas al oído ♪
Poo Bear wrote that song that he recorded.
And what we're told, and this is not from Scooter's side,
this is-- we know this,
that the artist says that he did a demo for Justin.
And not just a demo on "Despacito",
but on every song he wrote.
And Justin never changed the demo.
Didn't change it a bit.
That the demo is exactly like the recorded song.
So Justin was basically a singer.
If it's true that Justin Bieber didn't write
a lot of the songs that he's gotten credit for, that's not unheard of.
It's not that it happens all the time
with all the artists that we love.
But it would not be the first time that a major star
put their name on a song that they didn't really write
or barely wrote at all.
Scooter fought so hard for him to get these rights that
he actually burned so many bridges with other artists.
So here it is.
Poo Bear, what do you mean, "Despacito?"
Poo Bear, what's poppin' baby?
Ed Sheeran and Benny Blanco, they wrote "Love Yourself",
and after the song was released, Ed Sheeran did a documentary,
and you see the two of them recording the song,
writing the song, and Justin's nowhere in sight.
♪ For all the times that you rained on my parade ♪
"Boyfriend" was written by Mike Posner.
"Sorry" was written by Julia Michaels and Justin Tranter.
So the bottom line is,
according to Scooter's camp,
Justin wouldn't have had this $200 million publishing deal
if it wasn't for Scooter getting him
the publishing right on all this music
that he had really nothing to do with writing.
Some of these writers wouldn't have hits
if Justin Bieber hadn't sung their songs.
- Yeah. - So they were fine
with giving Justin some of the publishing rights.
And so, you know, look, the through line here is that
Justin's people say, "Oh, Scooter screwed Justin."
But when it comes to this,
aggressiveness worked on Justin's--
On this, I don't see how Scooter screwed Justin.
There are other things that you could definitely question.
This is not one of them.
Scooter's the one who found Justin
18 years ago and made him a superstar.
♪ All I'm askin' ♪
♪ Is for a little respect when you come home ♪
♪ Baby ♪
That's what he does. That's what he's supposed to do.
It's so crazy because when you think of Scooter
and Justin's relationship over the years, they were so close.
You know, you could see that
Scooter did love Justin like a son.
And Justin did love Scooter like a father.
You could totally see that
just from their interactions over the years.
We have that clip of when Justin was a kid
and he wanted to buy a toy helicopter, right?
And it was Scooter who was saying,
"No, you can't, you don't need this."
And that's such a fatherly figure.
Very fatherly. There's another way to look at it,
which clearly Justin is viewing it this way now, is that,
yeah, he loved me.
Yeah, he was being like a father to me
because I was making him incredibly rich.
- Yeah. - I was the golden goose.
There's an old saying, though, if you got somebody
who's getting a percentage of your money, the richer they get,
the richer you got.
This is a tale that is as old as the music industry.
Yes, there's always going to be someone else
who's making money off the artist.
But if the artist feels like that person is getting too much...
- Yeah. - ...Then this is where you end up.
Coming up.
I was on a call with multiple people.
Justin side acknowledged that in 2022 he was on the verge of,
and the words were, financial collapse.
How on earth do you blow through a billion bucks?
♪ That if I can't be close to you ♪
♪ I'll settle for the ghost of you ♪
♪ I miss you more than life ♪
The breaking point for Justin Bieber and Scooter Braun,
but really Justin, is the Justice Tour.
♪ She's confident ♪
♪ You could tell by the way she walks in the room ♪
That is the tour where Justin pulled the plug in the middle
and went into massive debt
and the fans were pissed off.
And there was just a lot of finger pointing.
So the show kicked off in February 2022.
Justin did 49 shows and then he pulls the plug
and he doesn't do the remaining 81 shows.
Justin Bieber revealing on social media
that he has been diagnosed with Ramsay Hunt syndrome,
a rare condition causing paralysis of part of his face
and forcing him to postpone dates on his current tour.
This is really interesting. So Ramsay Hunt is
a really serious condition where you can get shingles
in your inner ear,
you lose your balance and you can get Bell's palsy, which is,
you know, a facial paralysis.
- Which we saw with him. - Yeah, we saw that
he had like lack of mobility on one side of his face.
As you can see, this eye is not blinking.
I can't smile on this side of my face.
This nostril will not move.
He still has a little of that.
Anybody that was watching his social media, watching the concerts from afar,
you saw him break down.
And we see him on stage crying,
breaking down to the audience and everyone's like,
what is going on with Justin?
He's not in a good place.
Scooters Camp has told us
he just thinks Justin wanted to go home.
- Right. - That he was just tired.
He wanted to spend more time with Hailey.
He wanted to go on vacation.
He wanted to live his life without going on tour.
Yeah, but then our Justin sources say
that he was set up for failure.
That he was, you know, he was put out there like
a show pony to do all these tricks
and shows every single night.
There's an advance that AEG paid.
- We know this from both sides. - Right.
So AEG, which threw the concert,
gives Justin a $40 million advance.
When Justin cancels the tour,
AEG says, "Hey, you owe us, $24 million."
And Justin's like,
"I don't have the money."
And so Scooter's company, HYBE, they say, look,
we'll assume this debt and we'll pay it off for you, Justin.
So Justin then signs a note saying
he'll pay Scooter's company that $24 million back
over a 10 year period.
And he makes one payment.
And this is where the conflict starts.
So we're told from Scooter's side that Justin's people called
and said he doesn't have the money to pay anymore
and he's never paid another payment.
Now, from Justin's side, they're saying, well,
his accountant, his business manager, Lou Taylor,
started digging and said Scooter was way overpaid commissions.
Justin said, you screwed me.
You took way too much in commissions.
So Scooter orders an internal audit from HYBE, his company,
and they look at all the books
and they come out and they say, guess what?
Justin owes me a million bucks.
I don't owe him anything.
He owes me a million dollars, based on the audit.
But see, if I'm Justin, I look at that and say,
Well, of course you guys are going to say that.
You hire-- It's your company.
It's HYBE that did the audit.
And we know Justin's people said that.
So Scooter then hires an independent company.
Price Waterhouse.
Same people that do the Oscars.
They do the Oscars. They do the Oscar tallies.
They're a very respectable, independent accounting firm.
Price Waterhouse spent six months doing an audit
and it comes back in April.
Last month, it comes back and it shows
Justin did not owe Scooter a million.
He owed him more than eight million.
- Oops. - Almost nine million.
- Almost nine million dollars. - Almost nine million dollars.
Remember, Justin's the one who asked
for this independent audit
and it gets it back and it says he owes eight million.
So that whole plan has gone south.
What we find out is that after that,
he doesn't like that number.
His team does their own audit,
but they won't tell us what the results of that audit.
And we've been talking to both sides
and they will not say anything about it.
They won't dispute the eight plus million dollar figure.
But we were told he doesn't even want that money.
By the way, if Justin had just finished that tour,
he would have made 90 million dollars.
- Yeah, that's the estimate that we've heard, right? - 90 million dollars.
When you're rolling in dough,
all of this doesn't matter that much.
When you're broke,
and you want to start blaming people, that's when it matters.
I was on a call with multiple people.
Justin's side acknowledges that in 2022,
he was on the verge of,
and the words were, "financial collapse."
And that's why he had to sell his catalog.
He was so broke in 2022, that he had to borrow--
Will Bracey, who is a member of the church--
- And his C.O.O. - And his C.O.O.
He had to borrow Will's credit card, so he could go play golf.
- That's how broke he was. - That's what we've heard.
He could not afford a round of golf.
But it's not cheap to be
the biggest pop star in the world.
Turn your head!
Justin! Justin!
I just want you to back up a bit.
You're good, you're good.
Yo, Justin, you all right, big guy?
He is the biggest pop star in the world.
Of course he has to charter jets.
Of course he has mega mansions.
Which, by the way, we were told he paid cash for all the houses.
And it struck us when he made that-- that sale,
and they announced the sale.
Justin Bieber just sold his music catalog
for an estimated measly $200 million.
- It was shocking. - We were all like,
why is Justin Bieber, at such an early stage in his career,
selling off his catalog?
And there were other people who were selling their catalogs,
- but they were all much older. - They're much older.
And so it was like, why is he selling this--
- Sold out of desperation. - I'm telling you...
Justin, Hailey, and Michael Rhodes...
His attorney.
...went to Scooter and said,
"We've gotta sell this catalog." Scooter said no.
And finally, when Scooter realized
they were gonna sell it, this was in December,
Scooter said, at least wait until January,
because you'll get a tax break if you wait 'til January.
And Justin said, "I've gotta sell it now."
And he sold it in December. That's how broke he was.
But, you know, how on earth do you blow through a billion bucks?
Eight buses.
Eight buses, one that you do a renovation for two million on.
Insisting on flying on only heavy jets.
Can't take a light, regular jet. Justin and Hailey wanted to--
You're talking about The Justice Tour.
Yeah, on The Justice Tour.
I mean, he just spent and spent.
Right now, he's in Iceland,
in a hotel for almost $60,000 a night, rented out the place.
In Justin's defense, he was 13 years old when he became a star.
He doesn't understand money.
And, you know, maybe Scooter should have,
you know, schooled him better
on money management as he's growing up.
Because like you said, if he's a surrogate father,
you've gotta do something with your kid.
And Justin was, I mean,
from everybody we've talked to, even on Justin's side,
that he just spent wildly.
This is almost a psychology thing.
That when you go broke this way...
you want to blame somebody.
- Yeah. - And...
then the question is, who's to blame?
I think Scooter bears some responsibility
for not teaching him better when it came to money.
I mean, I think that's fair.
To be fair to Scooter,
maybe he attempted to, but how much does a kid want to hear?
Like...
There's only so much Scooter can do.
And that's true of not just a manager,
that's true of a parent.
Everything that we've seen as far as legally,
on contracts and deals that were made...
And audits, and audits.
And audits, it seems very clear that Scooter is owed money,
and Scooter didn't do anything underhanded.
Everything was in contracts that Justin signed,
and even reaffirmed, years later.
So, I don't see how Scooter is wrong.
I can see how Justin feels like Scooter is the bad guy.
But legally, he's not-- he's not in the wrong.
And so, then the question becomes,
who's in Justin's ear?
Coming up...
Him having a relationship with his pastor
is not all that shocking.
But when the pastor is now sitting on the board
of a company that Justin founded,
people who get cut out of Justin's life
are pointing a finger at Judah.
Well, cut to the chase.
They are saying, this is a cult.
We meet once a month, guys.
Move back. Move back.
There's a kinda common thread that has gone through
Justin Bieber's life since he became famous.
That he always has, like, a Svengali.
He had Scooter Braun, who was not just his manager,
but is like a surrogate father.
And then, you know, he gets Carl Lentz,
who is part of a church, the pastor of a church, Hillsong,
that he just gloms on to.
And he is Justin's guru.
And now there's another one, Judah Smith.
And Judah Smith is different.
Thank you, Justin, for the opportunity.
He has a ton of influence over Justin.
Some people are saying, like,
he's actually controlling Justin.
And not just his personal life,
- his business life. - Right.
And that's where it becomes
an issue where it's not just about, this is, I mean,
Justin's been religious for a long time.
And so, him having a relationship with his pastor is not all that shocking.
But when the pastor is now sitting on the board
of a company that Justin founded...
His clothing line. Drew House.
...Drew House.
And then that relationship falls apart.
Justin's relationship with Ryan Good,
who he co-founded Drew House with.
His best man at his wedding.
Best man at his wedding.
When that falls apart, people start to--
Scooter Braun, and Scooter Braun--
And Scooter Braun falls out.
And everyone starts to, particularly, let's be honest,
the people who get cut out of Justin's life,
are pointing a finger at Judah.
And saying that there's something...
He's the reason why.
...that he's saying or doing with Justin that
makes Justin not trust all these people
who've been around him, and helped him in his career,
and personally, up to this point.
Well, cut to the chase.
They are saying, this is a cult.
And that Judah is the cult leader.
Judah has laughed at that.
There's all of these attacks that are being,
you know, slewn at him, and at Judah, and at Churchome.
Saying that this is like a cult.
It is not what they're making it out to be.
And I think it's because for the first time in a long time,
he has a circle of people that are protecting him,
and really care about him.
And the people who are obviously bringing these stories
to the media are threatened by that.
We spoke with a woman who actually sued the church.
As staff member, it became very clear
and apparent to me that one of the you have to do's
was just, hey, you have to give money back to the church.
10% of your gross income, this is a non-negotiable.
To not tithe off of a paycheck that comes from a tithe
doesn't work for me.
I'm just going to be real clear. It just doesn't work for me.
You are not as invested as you think you are
if there's not a money trail.
You are... painting the picture of a cult.
Mhmm
Yep. Absolutely.
I think Churchome is a cult. Absolutely.
The church tells us Rachel Kellogg's lawsuit was dismissed
and her claims have been settled.
There must be more than getting up
and going to work and getting a paycheck and being a nice person.
There must... be more.
We asked to talk to Judah and he wouldn't do it.
They gave a statement.
"Judah served on the Drew House Board
at the request of both Ryan and Justin
without receiving any financial compensation."
When Justin started having issues with Scooter,
a lot of people in that world think Judah was the one who drove the wedge.
We're told Judah and Justin were going to Scooter saying,
"Why don't you love Jesus?"
And Scooter's Jewish.
And was really pushing this, you know,
excoriating Scooter for not believing in Jesus.
And then they have this meeting.
It was supposed to be a business meeting
- with Justin and his attorney. - Right.
But Lou Taylor, his business manager, was also there.
Who was a member of the church.
Right. And Judah.
What we're told by an eyewitness is Justin goes
into the meeting and says, "You [bleep] me over.
"You [bleep] me over."
And just keeps repeating it.
And Scooter's like, "What are you talking about?"
I mean, it ain't hard to decode this,
that somebody was in his ear.
And it sounds like Judah and maybe Lou Taylor
are in his ear saying, Scooter's stealing money from you.
Why were they going after Scooter this way?
We have eyewitnesses here.
And the words from Lou Taylor were,
"I am also a woman of the cloth and the ministry.
"Justin can forgive you,
"but he can't move forward with a relationship with you."
How's his business manager saying that?
The best man at his wedding, one of his closest friends--
- Ryan Good. - Ryan Good.
What we're told is Justin and Judah go up to Ryan one day
and they start, like, grilling him
on his sex and dating life.
Ryan, from what we're told,
he felt that it was invasive.
And it really turned him off from the church.
- And we're told that-- - To Judah, not Justin.
- To Judah. - Well, yeah.
So him and Judah completely broke off.
And we're told this is when Ryan started
to feel like Churchome was a cult.
That's when he started using the cult word.
And Justin cut him off.
Justin just cut Ryan out of his life.
Why is it that Justin has just been isolating
from everybody in his life?
- Except the church. - Except for Judah.
Except for Judah.
Coming up.
His fans, like him, like in the past five, ten years,
he's gotten married, he's had a kid.
He's grown up. And so are the fans.
They probably have kids now, too.
If you're a teenager, if you're 15, 16 years old
right now and a pop music fan,
you were born when "Baby" came out.
It is crazy to think that in his early 30s
that he could be a legacy act.
So Justin's in Iceland right now and he's recording music.
The question, he has been out of the game for a while.
Can he come back the way he was before?
He can.
It's going to be a lot harder than he maybe thinks it is.
It's been four years since his last album.
Music has changed.
There's been a generational shift.
And Justin is young. He's in his early 30s.
But he's been in the game for over 15 years now.
He's kind of a veteran at this point.
You would expect that whatever this album is,
that it's probably like a number one,
that it debuts at number one?
It's guaranteed, pretty much.
There's still huge demand for his music,
both old and potentially upcoming.
He's still one of the most streamed people every month on Spotify.
So there's been this buildup.
And people are really excited to hear whatever comes next.
His fans, like him, in the past five, ten years,
he's gotten married, he's had a kid.
He's grown up. And so have his fans.
They probably have kids now, too.
If you're a teenager, if you're 15, 16 years old right now,
and a pop music fan, you were born when "Baby" came out.
It is crazy to think that in his early 30s
that he could be a legacy act.
♪ I took my chick up to the north, yeah, badass bitch ♪
♪ I get my light right from the source, yeah ♪
Sing it!
He hated touring.
He's canceled two tours at various stages.
And if you're a legacy act, you can be in one place,
night after night, make a ton of money.
He has a family, doesn't like touring.
He may embrace being a legacy act.
And does he want to be a pop star?
It's honestly the big question that's not really been answered.
Does he want to play the game?
Does he want to do all those things
you have to do when you're a relevant pop star?
Everything we've seen is
he doesn't want to be a pop star anymore.
Doesn't seem like it.
And by the way, he'll still get a lot of money.
It's not like he, like, those hotels will pay him
huge amounts of money to do what Adele's doing.
- Millions. - Yes.
Ultimately, their finances are going to be fine.
Regardless of what he might be going through,
she's sitting on a gold mine.
Her company, Road Beauty,
is valued at more than a billion dollars.
♪ What you want from me? What you want from me? ♪
♪ I wanna know ♪
Hey, not a bad life.
You do a couple residencies, spend what you want to spend,
you run out of money, you just do it again.
The good thing for him is he's in his early 30s
and can do whatever he wants.
He can make music if he wants to.
He can make the kind of music he wants to.
He can play the game and be a pop star.
The fans will be there if he chooses it.
If he doesn't, it doesn't mean anything to him.
His legacy's set.
Everybody give it up for Justin Bieber.