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[eerie music playing faintly]
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[Jodi Foster]
When I moved into that apartment,
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I immediately
started having bizarre dreams.
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I could see a dungeon.
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Really weird and dark.
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But there was one light in there.
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And I saw a girl in there
and this weird couple.
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Now, all of a sudden,
they're doing creepy things to this girl.
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What I discovered
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was there's a person that went missing
from that apartment.
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I feel like her spirit
was trying to get in touch with someone.
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I think she wants to be found.
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[mysterious music playing]
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[Jodi] Ready?
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Yay!
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-[Hannah Foster] Marilyn!
-[Jodi laughing]
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-Hi!
-[exclaims]
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-Hi!
-[Jodi] That's a big smile!
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I am a grandma, I'm a mom,
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and I share a name with a famous actress.
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{\an8}Jodie Foster, the director.
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I was born in Orange County, California.
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I had my daughter in 1997,
and I was a single mom,
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and I moved to Chico, California.
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{\an8}I thought it was a beautiful town.
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{\an8}There was a college here.
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{\an8}It's a small town
but big enough to, like, raise a family.
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It was quaint and beautiful,
and it felt like home.
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[bicycle bell ringing]
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[Jodi] When I first got to Chico,
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I had seen a sign that said "For Rent,"
and it said "Walnut Garden apartment."
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There's flowers.
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There's a pool.
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It looked like, you know,
just a regular, nice apartment complex.
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{\an8}We moved into the apartment,
apartment number 14,
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{\an8}January 31st, 2000.
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Hannah was three,
and I was 33 at the time.
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It's hard to explain,
but when I first moved in,
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it didn't feel peaceful.
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It felt kind of, like, dark.
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And it had this bizarre smell.
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Like, I thought maybe it was a chemical
smell from a carpet or something.
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And I say to myself,
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"Why are you feeling like this?"
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And I just think,
"Okay, I'm here now in Chico."
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"I am gonna start a really peaceful
and happy life
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for me and my daughter, like, right now."
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Then the shit hit the fan.
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[menacing music playing]
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[Jodi] The first things that
seemed out of the ordinary to me,
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Hannah had this little pair of pink shoes.
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I always kept them by the door
so that when we were ready to leave,
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she could just put 'em on.
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{\an8}I remember my mom was trying to
get me ready to go out for the day,
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and she was looking
for those pink little sneakers.
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And she's like, "Where are the sneakers?"
You know, "Where are they at?"
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I remember them being
right in the middle of the bed.
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Like, out of nowhere.
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And my mom was like,
"Did you put those there, Hannah?"
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I'm like, "No."
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She would be very adamant, like,
"Mom, it wasn't me!"
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Like, day after day, the shoes
would be in the middle of the bed.
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So now these shoes are moving,
and things progressively got stranger.
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There was, like, salt and pepper shakers.
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And in the morning, when I'd wake up,
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they would be, like,
at the very edge of the table.
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And I thought, "Am I going crazy here?"
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The things that would happen
in the apartment are scary things,
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but I remember just not really
understanding why it was happening.
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[Jodi] The other thing that was
happening was I had these dreams.
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I had a dream that there was a girl
walking down a street in Chico,
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and I saw a couple
in either a blue or gray car,
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and they asked the girl
if she wanted a ride.
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During the dream, this man came behind her
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and put something over her mouth.
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Like, "Why am I
dreaming about this weird couple?"
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Then one day, Hannah goes, "Hi!"
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And I go, "Who are you saying hi to?"
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[sinister music playing]
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She goes, "That girl right there, Mom!"
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I said, "Did someone walk by the window?"
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"No, Mom. That girl right there!"
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She's insisting that there's a girl.
And she said, "She has a white shirt on."
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{\an8}[Hannah] I remember calling her "My Liz."
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And I remember seeing her vividly.
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I just remember her eyes, and her face,
and her hair, and everything,
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just thinking
she was just a normal friend.
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Just somebody in the house.
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Just like one of her regular friends
that would come over.
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[Jodi] One night, me and Hannah,
we went out to dinner.
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When we came back,
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the phone, it was like one of those
that you hang on the wall.
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We found the receiver in the back bedroom,
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and all the toys that were
in Hannah's room were, like, in a pile.
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We had Hannah's
Sleep and Snore Ernie Doll.
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And Ernie was on the top of the pile,
and he had, like, a noose around his neck.
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A little shoe string or something
on his neck.
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I was shaken. I grabbed Hannah,
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I scooped her up,
and I ran out the front door.
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So I call the Chico Police, and I say,
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"My daughter and I went out to dinner,
we came home, and this is what we found."
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And so, the police took a report,
and on the other end of the phone,
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they're like,
"Mmm-hmm. Okay, lady, whatever."
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[Hannah] I can't even imagine
what my mom went through.
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Having to take care of your kid
and also deal with these, you know,
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bizarre things that are happening.
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[Jodi] It all culminated into
this one night in February of 2000.
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I woke up in the middle of the night,
and then I hear...
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[imitates static crackling]
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...white, staticky TV noise.
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How's the TV on?
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You had to literally get up
and turn it on.
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The cupboards were flapping open.
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The burner in the kitchen was on high.
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[doll on recording] I feel great!
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[Jodi] All of a sudden,
the Ernie doll is going...
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[doll] I feel great! I feel great!
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[Jodi] ..."I feel great!" Like, crazily.
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[doll] I feel great! I feel great!
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[Jodi] I thought,
"The battery is going dead."
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[doll] I feel great!
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So I take the batteries out of the doll.
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[doll on recording]
♪ Twinkle, twinkle, little star ♪
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-♪ How I wonder... ♪
-[Hannah] The Ernie doll was scary.
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[doll] ♪ ...little star... ♪
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[Hannah] I remember it going off
in the middle of the night,
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and then my mom freaking out
because there was no batteries in it.
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[doll on recording] I feel great!
I feel great! I feel great!
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And then, all of a sudden, boom.
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Lights are all on.
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"Holy hell! Like, what's happening?
Like, what?"
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[doll on recording] I feel great!
I feel great! I feel great!
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[Jodi] So I went to the neighbor,
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who was actually
the manager of the apartment complex.
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I knock on her door, and I say,
"There's something wrong."
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So she grabbed her little poodle,
and she went into the apartment.
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The dog jumps out of her arms,
and it's barking like... [imitates barking]
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[doll] I feel great!
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And then all of a sudden,
there's this lamp with the cord on it,
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and the cord is swinging in the air
like a jump rope.
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-[doll] I feel great!
-[Jodi] We're all just screaming.
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[Jodi] The dog's barking.
She grabs the dog.
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[doll] I feel great!
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We hightailed it out of there.
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So, by now,
it's about six o'clock in the morning.
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And I'm sitting out at the pool
just crying.
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And then this older man
who was walking his dog,
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who had lived there for,
like, about 25 years,
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he says, "You know, Jodi,
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nobody lives in that apartment very long."
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And I go, "What? What do you mean?
What are you talking about?"
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And I'm crying at this point.
Like, "Please tell me why."
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So he looks at me, and he says,
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"There was a girl who lived there
in the apartment."
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"Apartment number 14."
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"I can't remember her name,
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but she's been missing ever since."
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{\an8}[Al Shamblin] On January 31st, 1976,
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{\an8}the Chico Police Department
received a missing person report
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{\an8}on Marie Elizabeth Spannhake.
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She went by the nickname "Marliz."
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The missing persons report indicated
she was a white female,
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5'5", brown hair, 110 pounds.
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Her boyfriend indicated in the report
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that they had gone to a flea market
in Chico,
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and they got into a disagreement
about something,
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and Marliz decided to walk home
instead of riding with him.
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He last seen her walking
on Mangrove Avenue,
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away from this flea market,
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and no one had seen nor heard
from Marie Elizabeth Spannhake
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since January 31st, 1976.
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[Martha Spannhake] Marliz was my sister.
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{\an8}She was only in Chico about two months
before she disappeared.
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We are from Cleveland, Ohio.
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There were seven of us all together
in the family.
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I was the oldest girl,
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and then Marliz was
three years younger than me,
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and she did have a good personality.
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She was very outgoing.
She was very friendly.
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She had this long,
naturally curly brown hair,
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and she had eyes as blue as the sky.
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She was very beautiful.
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{\an8}In 1975,
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{\an8}Marliz worked with this hoodlum,
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my mom called him, John Baruth.
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They fell in love.
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He came from California,
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and he was moving back to California
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and asked Marliz to come with him.
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And she did.
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I think Marliz's ultimate dream
was to become an actor.
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She was just so happy.
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And I was excited for her.
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A big step.
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And then she wrote me a couple of times.
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She told me that she wasn't
liking it too much in California.
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It wasn't what she had dreamed it to be.
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I think she was having trouble with
John a little bit, you know, just spats.
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And she had nobody to run to.
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Nobody to talk to.
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Marliz said she was coming home in April.
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And she never came home. Yeah.
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[Jodi] I knew there was something going on
in that apartment that was not me.
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I think some people are born
with certain spiritual qualities.
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Some people are more sensitive
or empathic than others.
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And I think that, for some reason,
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my daughter and I both are just sensitive
to subtle paranormal energy.
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And the weird thing is,
when I moved into that apartment,
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I felt this
impending doom sort of feeling,
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like something terrible
was about to happen.
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My bizarre dreams
progressively got weirder and stranger.
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-[sinister music playing]
-[Jodi] Now I'm seeing a location,
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and I'm seeing a couple
with a young woman.
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She was a teenager.
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She had, like, auburn hair in the dream.
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And I could see that they were in a house.
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Like a, um, root cellar.
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It looked kind of strangely
like a dungeon.
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And there was this weird hook,
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like a really big logging hook.
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They had this girl, like...
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There was something around her arms,
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and then she had something on her mouth.
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Now, all of a sudden,
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they're doing sadistic
and weird things to this girl.
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Like, sexually creepy things.
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I remember my mom telling me about
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having dreams about
some weird guy and some lady.
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And it gave her a lot of anxiety
and a lot of questions.
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It's hard to talk about a little bit
because it gives me a little bit of PTSD,
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um, because of the things
that happened in that apartment.
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I didn't want something
to happen to Hannah.
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So being a single mom,
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I took my daughter and I moved.
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[eerie music playing]
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[Jodi] I only stayed in that apartment
for, like, three months.
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That's not a very long time,
but it seemed like forever.
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I just thought, "I don't wanna
have anything to do with this anymore."
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And so we went
to a different apartment in Chico.
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When I got out of there,
I thought it was done.
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This was behind me.
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I ended up dating this guy.
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And so, one day, he came across
this book called the Perfect Victim.
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{\an8}He starts reading through this book,
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and then he comes back to my house,
and he's like, "Jodi!"
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"Oh my God!
You're not gonna believe this!"
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There was a girl that had
gone missing from my apartment.
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And he found an article
about a missing girl
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from 1976.
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She had a nickname.
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"Marliz."
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[dark music playing]
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[Jodi] I was like, "Oh my God."
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Hannah, when she was little,
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kept saying she was talking to somebody
called "My Liz."
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I remember my mom telling me about
the research she was doing.
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She's like, "I need to tell you something.
I need to talk to you about something."
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"Do you remember My Liz?"
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I'm like, "Yes."
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And she's like,
"I'm gonna show you something."
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And then she showed me the picture of her.
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And I'm like, "That is the girl
that was in the apartment with us."
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[Jodi] My stomach dropped.
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That was so freaky. Oh my God.
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And that's when I'm like, "Where is she?"
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"Where's Marliz?"
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"How come no one
has been able to find her?"
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Then I learned that
the disappearance of Marliz
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had been connected possibly
to a couple in Red Bluff.
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{\an8}[Al] November 7th, 1984,
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{\an8}my supervisor,
who was head of the detective division,
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{\an8}came to me and said,
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"I need you to respond
to the Church of Nazarene."
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The first thing
that I see when I get to the church...
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is Pastor Dabney
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and a woman named Janice Hooker.
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I notice that Janice
was extremely emotionally upset.
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She indicated that, in 1976,
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her husband Cameron
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had kidnapped
and killed a girl in Chico, California.
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Janice's reasoning to come forward
was she was afraid of Cameron.
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Also, Janice had a lot of guilt built up
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for what had occurred
over the years at different times.
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[Kevin Hale] Detective Shamblin realized
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{\an8}that some of this information may
be incriminating towards Janice herself,
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so Al read her her rights, per Miranda,
and after reading her rights,
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Janice decided she didn't
wanna talk anymore without an attorney.
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[Al] So then I called
the District Attorney's Office,
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gave the district attorney
the information that I had
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and what information that I didn't have.
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And he, at that time,
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decided to grant immunity to Janice
for her cooperation.
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After granting the immunity,
I interviewed Janice in detail.
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Janice told me that the victim
that they kidnapped in Chico
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was named "Marliz."
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Marliz Spannhake.
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[menacing music playing]
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[Al] On January 31st, 1976,
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Janice and Cameron
had seen her walking on Mangrove Avenue.
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And Cameron had circled her
a couple of times.
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Janice knew what he was going to do.
She knew he wanted to kidnap a woman.
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[Carla Norton] She was walking along.
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He offers a ride.
He's there with his wife.
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It looks very safe.
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She gets in.
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And then Cameron is asking questions.
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{\an8}"What's your name? Where are you from?
Where are you going?"
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{\an8}She didn't have family nearby.
No one knew where she'd gone.
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He was looking for this type of woman
who didn't have any ties to the community.
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[Al] At one point,
she started to get out of the vehicle,
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and Cameron grabbed her
with a knife to her throat,
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drug her back into the car,
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and they placed a head box
over the top of her head.
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{\an8}[Kevin] The head box was constructed
of wood and Styrofoam,
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and it had hinges on it.
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So he would enclose the head
with this head box,
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encompass the entire head
inside the head box,
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and with that foam in there,
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it basically prevented the person
to be heard from any distance.
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[Carla] If someone
abducted you off the street
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and put a 20-pound head box
over your head,
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you'd be so disoriented,
you wouldn't know what was going on.
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But Cameron wanted to muffle screams.
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He was very concerned
about his captive alerting the neighbors.
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And then they drove about 40 miles
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all the way back to the house
on Oak Street in Red Bluff.
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[Kevin] Janice said that when they
got back to their house in Red Bluff,
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they pulled up to the garage
in the back of the house.
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When Janice and Cameron
owned this house, none of this...
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none of this was here,
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so they actually pulled the car
into the garage, parked the car.
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Cameron got out and closed the door.
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Janice was in the house for a few minutes.
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She came back out, at which time
Marliz was outside the vehicle,
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the head box was off of her,
and she was in a disoriented state.
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Janice could smell ether in the air.
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She asked him what he had done,
and he said he had sprayed starting fluid
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into the rag
and put that over Marliz's mouth
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to make her semi-unconscious.
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After getting out of the garage area,
they carried her into the basement.
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Although he was fascinated
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with the torturing
and the dominance of people,
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Cameron did not like the screaming
of somebody he was torturing.
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{\an8}So Cameron read that
if you cut a person's vocal cords,
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{\an8}they will no longer be able
to yell or scream.
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Janice said that Cameron lifted Marliz up
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and took her up to the bathroom.
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Cameron was very invested
in keeping this sex slave
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utterly cowed and utterly terrorized.
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But Cameron made a mistake with Marliz.
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[Kevin] Janice, at first, refused to
help him with the cutting of her throat,
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and Cameron threatened her
that if she didn't help him,
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he was going to do the same thing to her.
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So she ultimately agreed and sat down
next to Marliz on the bathroom floor
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while Cameron started cutting
one side of Marliz's throat
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to try and reach her vocal cords.
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But he didn't know what he was doing.
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Marliz began bleeding heavily,
so Cameron kind of got freaked out.
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He stopped because he realized
he wasn't gonna be successful.
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Cameron lifted Marliz up
and took her back down into the basement.
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There's a couple
holes up in here where these...
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these eye hooks would have existed.
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Janice came down here
after Cameron had cut her throat.
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She saw Marliz hanging from the beam.
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The rope was around her neck.
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Janice said she felt that
Cameron had strangled her with the rope
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{\an8}and then hung her by the beam, unclothed,
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{\an8}with a pillowcase over her head.
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She was dead at that point in time.
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[Al] Janice said they then
carried the body back out to the car.
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By this time, it was about
two o'clock in the morning.
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They drove 30 miles
north of Red Bluff on Interstate 5.
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They then took Highway 44 east
towards Lassen Park,
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where they turned off on a dirt road.
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Janice said Cameron dug a shallow grave...
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and buried
Marie Elizabeth Spannhake's body.
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After the burial,
he burned all of her clothing,
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all of her belongings.
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The kidnapping took, from start to finish,
about ten to 12 hours.
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So he kidnapped her, killed her,
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buried her all within a half of a day.
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During my initial interview with Janice,
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she started talking about the kidnapping
of another victim, Colleen Stan,
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in Red Bluff, California.
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{\an8}[Carla] Colleen Stan came down from Eugene
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and was hitchhiking through town
to surprise a friend.
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Cameron and Janice pick her up.
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He threatens her, forces her down,
puts the head box on her.
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When you look at the abduction
of Marie Elizabeth Spannhake,
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it very much mirrors that of Colleen Stan.
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Marliz was 18. Colleen was 20.
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They both had long hair.
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They had no association
to the surrounding area.
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{\an8}[Al] Janice told us that Cameron
kept Colleen as a hostage for seven years.
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{\an8}Against Colleen, he had committed
a number of sex crimes.
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He kept her under a water bed
for 20 hours a day and tortured her.
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And then, in 1984, Janice comes to Colleen
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and tells her
that she's going to leave Cameron.
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I think Janice was having
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a spiritual crisis.
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She was 16 when she married Cameron
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and 17 when Janice says he murders Marliz.
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And now she knows her husband
is capable of murder.
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So she has this period of time of years,
I mean, almost nine years,
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where she's trying to do
what Cameron wants her to do
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and not get into trouble.
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So this is a very dangerous situation,
if you're a female,
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to be in that household.
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She was coming unglued.
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She was mentally just at her last rope.
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[Al] When Janice comes to her,
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Colleen begs Janice not to go
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because Colleen is afraid of
what's gonna happen to her
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if it's just her and Cameron.
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So Janice and Colleen
just kept it a big secret
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until Cameron went to work
the next morning,
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and then they packed their belongings,
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and both of them left
and went to Janice's parents' house.
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[Carla] For a while,
Janice stayed with her parents.
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Colleen hadn't contacted the police.
She had promised Janice that she wouldn't.
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[Al] Colleen told her family
some of what happened,
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but it wasn't until Janice came to us
three months later
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that she said anything to law enforcement.
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[Colleen] The police called,
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{\an8}and so then I talked to them
for several hours,
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{\an8}giving my statement about what happened.
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Afterwards, they said,
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"Well, everything you say
matches what Janice told us."
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And so then they said,
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"Well, do you know
anything about this woman, Marliz?"
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And I said, "The only thing I can tell you
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is that he had this picture that I saw."
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So then I described her,
and they said, "That's Marliz."
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[Al] At that point, we knew we had
a kidnapping and homicide in Chico.
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We also had the other kidnapping
with Colleen Stan,
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but to be able to continue
with the homicide of Marliz,
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we needed Janice's cooperation.
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[Carla] They didn't have a body,
didn't have any evidence.
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They had nothing
except Janice's testimony.
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And so police realized that,
without her, they didn't have a case.
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Without having a body,
it would be very difficult
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to prosecute someone
and obtain a conviction.
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[tense music playing]
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[Al] So we wanted Janice to go with us
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and show us where they had
buried Marie Elizabeth Spannhake's body.
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We drove several trips out east of Redding
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on both Highway 44 and Highway 299,
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checking all the roads
off on the right-hand side
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to see if Janice could locate the road
that they had taken.
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[Carla] There's a lot of country out there
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that you could easily dispose of a body
and nobody would ever find it.
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[Al] After taking Janice
on a number of trips
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and not being able
to locate the burial site,
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the District Attorney's Office
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felt that there was not enough information
to pursue the homicide.
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The risk would be that
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if he took the homicide to trial now
and lost it,
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that we would not be able
to retry Cameron for that.
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[Al] The homicide
of Marie Elizabeth Spannhake
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was the most important to us,
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but we pursued
the other kidnap case of Colleen Stan
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to make sure that Cameron went to jail.
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[reporter on TV]
Hooker was arrested and charged
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with 17 counts of rape, kidnap,
sodomy, and false imprisonment.
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[Al] In 1985, Cameron Hooker went to trial
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for the sex crimes
and kidnapping of Colleen Stan.
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[reporter] Hooker kept her
naked and handcuffed
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inside a wooden, coffin-sized box.
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[Carla] When the story broke,
everyone focused on Colleen Stan.
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[reporter 1] ...kidnapping Colleen Stan...
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[reporter 2] ...assaulting Colleen Stan...
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[reporter 3] Colleen Stan has a boyfriend...
473
00:36:01,117 --> 00:36:02,118
[reporter 4] Colleen Stan...
474
00:36:02,201 --> 00:36:03,828
It was such a sensational story
475
00:36:03,911 --> 00:36:06,664
to be kidnapped and held captive
for over seven years.
476
00:36:07,248 --> 00:36:10,376
[reporter on TV] She was stripped,
slashed with a leather whip,
477
00:36:10,459 --> 00:36:13,796
and then watched as Hooker
had sex with his wife on a tabletop.
478
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,881
Hooker is on trial...
479
00:36:14,964 --> 00:36:19,802
How can a person do that to somebody,
you know, and not feel bad?
480
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:24,182
He's more than capable
of torturing somebody.
481
00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:27,351
I know because he did it to me.
482
00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:29,854
{\an8}He did it through hanging.
He did it through whipping.
483
00:36:29,937 --> 00:36:33,357
{\an8}He did it through torture.
He did it through electric shocking.
484
00:36:33,441 --> 00:36:34,817
He did it through burning.
485
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:38,613
[Colleen] In the house on Oak Street,
486
00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:41,449
which was the same one
that he took Marliz to,
487
00:36:42,658 --> 00:36:47,538
he tells me, "Go ahead and scream.
I'll cut your vocal cords."
488
00:36:47,622 --> 00:36:49,165
"I've done it before."
489
00:36:50,583 --> 00:36:52,668
Then I find out about Marliz,
490
00:36:52,752 --> 00:36:55,838
and I find out
that one of the things he did to her
491
00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:58,591
was he cut her vocal cords
492
00:36:58,674 --> 00:37:02,094
'cause she was screaming
and screaming and screaming,
493
00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:04,180
and he wanted to shut her up.
494
00:37:05,806 --> 00:37:08,768
He's more than capable
of murdering somebody.
495
00:37:10,394 --> 00:37:11,771
I have no doubt.
496
00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:15,775
[reporter on TV] The young woman,
speaking in a faint voice,
497
00:37:15,858 --> 00:37:18,945
recalled her abduction at knifepoint
in May 1977.
498
00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:21,656
The trial was six weeks
and there was a lot of media there.
499
00:37:21,739 --> 00:37:24,659
[reporter 1] She was hung from a ceiling
of Cameron Hooker's basement...
500
00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:28,579
She said Hooker chained her hand and foot,
shocked her with electrical cords.
501
00:37:28,663 --> 00:37:31,499
[reporter 2] She had this
appalling device locked over her head.
502
00:37:31,582 --> 00:37:34,460
There was the torture, the forcible rapes.
503
00:37:34,543 --> 00:37:36,879
[reporter 1] Years of confinement
in a wooden box...
504
00:37:36,963 --> 00:37:40,633
[reporter 2] "The situation was perfect,"
he said. "She was a good slave."
505
00:37:42,468 --> 00:37:46,639
I just learned that the more I fought him,
506
00:37:46,722 --> 00:37:49,016
the longer the torture was,
507
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:52,687
the more it went on,
the more excited he got.
508
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:59,568
Where if I could just try
to tolerate the pain the best I could
509
00:37:59,652 --> 00:38:02,989
and let him do his... whatever he did,
510
00:38:03,072 --> 00:38:07,034
well, then he would
kind of lose interest, you know?
511
00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,494
And, uh...
512
00:38:08,577 --> 00:38:10,246
And it would be over quicker.
513
00:38:14,709 --> 00:38:19,463
[Carla] The details that came out
during that trial were just staggering,
514
00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:22,258
but none of that had to do with Marliz.
515
00:38:22,341 --> 00:38:25,803
[reporter] ...against Hooker,
prosecutor Christine McGuire told the jury
516
00:38:25,886 --> 00:38:29,849
that Hooker alternated
between sexual torture and mind control.
517
00:38:29,932 --> 00:38:33,561
[Carla] The prosecutor
had wanted to introduce Marliz
518
00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:35,855
to show that he had a method
519
00:38:36,897 --> 00:38:39,775
and a history of this kind of behavior.
520
00:38:39,859 --> 00:38:41,569
It does appear to have what is...
521
00:38:41,652 --> 00:38:43,321
I would guess is air holes in it.
522
00:38:43,404 --> 00:38:47,199
[Carla] But everything about Marliz
was kept out as too prejudicial
523
00:38:47,908 --> 00:38:50,036
because there's no evidence of a murder.
524
00:38:52,955 --> 00:38:58,669
We were forbidden from mentioning Marliz
or saying anything about her in the trial.
525
00:39:01,005 --> 00:39:04,884
All we could talk about
was what he did to me,
526
00:39:06,218 --> 00:39:10,181
and Judge Knight said,
at his sentencing hearing, he said...
527
00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:13,351
I consider this defendant to be
probably the most dangerous psychopath
528
00:39:13,434 --> 00:39:16,354
that I've ever dealt with,
if for no other reason
529
00:39:16,437 --> 00:39:19,023
than he appears to be
exactly the opposite of what he is.
530
00:39:19,607 --> 00:39:20,608
[Colleen] He said,
531
00:39:20,691 --> 00:39:24,195
"I feel you'll always be a danger to women
as long as you're alive."
532
00:39:24,278 --> 00:39:29,116
And so he told him, "I'm gonna give you
as much time as I can."
533
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,493
And he did.
534
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:35,122
Cameron was convicted on ten counts.
535
00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:36,791
Kidnapping,
536
00:39:36,874 --> 00:39:37,958
rape,
537
00:39:38,042 --> 00:39:42,713
sodomy, other sexual charges
that could be sentenced consecutively,
538
00:39:42,797 --> 00:39:45,925
and he was sentenced to 104 years.
539
00:39:46,008 --> 00:39:48,969
[reporter] Serving the sentences
for all the crimes at once.
540
00:39:49,512 --> 00:39:51,722
[Al] Cameron was sent to prison,
541
00:39:51,806 --> 00:39:56,519
and the Colleen Stan case was resolved.
542
00:39:58,354 --> 00:40:00,356
[somber music playing]
543
00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:07,571
[Al] The homicide of
Marie Elizabeth Spannhake was still open.
544
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,950
But it was not active
545
00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:16,705
because we didn't really have
any new information or avenues to proceed
546
00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:18,040
that we could see.
547
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:25,047
[Martha] I think I was just so angry,
548
00:40:26,006 --> 00:40:29,385
{\an8}probably at everybody,
for not being able to find her body.
549
00:40:29,468 --> 00:40:32,471
You know?
Because we all knew she was gone.
550
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:38,227
I was just more angry
that nothing was said or done about it
551
00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:39,895
during the trial.
552
00:40:39,979 --> 00:40:43,315
This is all after his trial was over with,
and I'm like,
553
00:40:43,399 --> 00:40:47,736
"He's in there for kidnapping
and whatever else he did to Colleen,
554
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:50,156
but what about my sister's murder?"
555
00:40:58,706 --> 00:41:01,584
[Jodi] When I moved out
of the Walnut Garden apartment,
556
00:41:02,501 --> 00:41:04,837
things were normal, you know.
557
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,675
I never experienced anything weird
physically moving in my apartment
558
00:41:09,758 --> 00:41:10,843
or anything again.
559
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:16,640
When I got out of there,
it was like a lifesaver for me.
560
00:41:19,935 --> 00:41:22,313
But about a year later,
561
00:41:23,105 --> 00:41:26,400
all of a sudden,
I would have dreams again.
562
00:41:27,902 --> 00:41:31,780
And I'm thinking,
"Good God, I thought this was behind me."
563
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:35,534
"I thought this was behind me."
564
00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:38,954
There was, like, the couple.
565
00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:43,459
The man was really tall in my dream,
and the woman was short,
566
00:41:43,542 --> 00:41:44,793
and it was dusk,
567
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,299
and they were kind of stalking somebody
or looking for somebody.
568
00:41:50,382 --> 00:41:56,764
And then I would always hear
the number "35.76,"
569
00:41:57,765 --> 00:42:01,977
and then I would see an "A," like,
a capital "A" and "17"
570
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,022
as I was, like, flying in my dream.
571
00:42:05,814 --> 00:42:08,192
I had no idea what that meant at all.
572
00:42:10,444 --> 00:42:12,738
Is it a location?
573
00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:19,161
And that's when I kind of was like,
"Okay."
574
00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:22,164
"Do I have information
that could help somebody?"
575
00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:24,875
And all of a sudden,
I just get this feeling.
576
00:42:25,709 --> 00:42:29,713
Stop what you're doing,
and call the Red Bluff Police Department.
577
00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:36,011
{\an8}[Kevin] In 2008, we received a phone call
578
00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:40,307
{\an8}from a person who identified herself
as Jodi Foster, who lived in Chico.
579
00:42:40,391 --> 00:42:42,977
{\an8}Said that she had
lived in Marliz's apartment
580
00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:44,979
and wanted to provide us information
581
00:42:45,062 --> 00:42:49,441
that she thought was related to
Marliz's murder and potential grave site.
582
00:42:49,525 --> 00:42:51,485
[Jodi] It went silent on the other end,
583
00:42:52,778 --> 00:42:54,822
and I thought he probably hung up on me.
584
00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:57,992
And he says to me,
"Why are you calling right now?"
585
00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:05,749
He goes, "We are in the middle
of opening up a cold case
586
00:43:07,001 --> 00:43:09,420
with Marie Elizabeth Spannhake."
587
00:43:11,088 --> 00:43:16,844
He goes, "I've never been so freaked out
as I was just now by you."
588
00:43:29,315 --> 00:43:32,192
I met with Detective Hale
at a coffee shop.
589
00:43:35,821 --> 00:43:37,823
He asked all kinds of questions.
590
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:41,493
He asked me what I saw.
591
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,913
He talked to me about the dreams.
592
00:43:49,710 --> 00:43:52,546
[Kevin] I think anytime, uh,
you're gettin' information from somebody
593
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:55,299
where they're telling you
they're having dreams about something
594
00:43:55,382 --> 00:43:57,718
and they wanna provide you
this information they think
595
00:43:57,801 --> 00:43:59,053
is related to a criminal case,
596
00:43:59,136 --> 00:44:01,221
you're probably
gonna be a little skeptical.
597
00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:02,514
[Jodi] I was so nervous.
598
00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:07,853
I was afraid I was gonna,
you know, um, be criticized.
599
00:44:09,188 --> 00:44:12,316
And then I thought, "It doesn't matter
if you guys think I'm crazy."
600
00:44:12,399 --> 00:44:14,068
"I have to give you this information."
601
00:44:16,695 --> 00:44:22,618
And because it was an open murder case,
he wasn't allowed to tell me anything.
602
00:44:23,702 --> 00:44:28,832
What I could do is tell him information,
but he couldn't confirm or deny anything.
603
00:44:30,668 --> 00:44:36,507
She told us that she was seeing the
letter A and the numbers 1-7, as in "A17."
604
00:44:36,590 --> 00:44:41,679
She believed that was a road that Cameron
and Janice took to Marliz's grave site.
605
00:44:41,762 --> 00:44:48,268
And there is a road in the area of...
going out 44 that is A17.
606
00:44:50,938 --> 00:44:54,942
We wanted to get more thorough
interviews done with Janice
607
00:44:55,025 --> 00:44:58,696
and then see if we can try
and put together a potential burial site.
608
00:45:00,030 --> 00:45:03,742
{\an8}The first time we talked to Janice
was in 2010 in Chico.
609
00:45:04,368 --> 00:45:08,539
{\an8}We introduced ourselves as the
investigators now assigned to the case,
610
00:45:08,622 --> 00:45:10,833
{\an8}and I think she may have
still been concerned
611
00:45:10,916 --> 00:45:12,668
{\an8}that she could potentially be charged,
612
00:45:12,751 --> 00:45:15,254
{\an8}so upon meeting her,
one of the first things we did
613
00:45:15,337 --> 00:45:17,464
{\an8}was remind her that
she had an immunity agreement.
614
00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:18,882
{\an8}We were not there to arrest her,
615
00:45:18,966 --> 00:45:22,636
{\an8}but we were there to try
and get some answers for the case.
616
00:45:23,595 --> 00:45:25,597
[ominous music playing]
617
00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:30,644
[Kevin] When we interviewed Janice,
we did feel that we got
618
00:45:30,728 --> 00:45:35,357
a better descriptive area of the road
that they turned down off of 44.
619
00:45:35,441 --> 00:45:37,568
She gave us a little bit more descriptions
620
00:45:37,651 --> 00:45:40,446
of some structures
that they had passed on the road, so...
621
00:45:40,529 --> 00:45:43,949
she still gave us information
we felt was good for the case.
622
00:45:44,825 --> 00:45:46,952
Right now, we're on Highway 44.
623
00:45:47,035 --> 00:45:51,165
We're a little ways east
of Shingletown in California.
624
00:45:51,248 --> 00:45:56,462
This is one of the primary locations where
we believe Marliz Spannhake is buried,
625
00:45:57,171 --> 00:45:58,589
but it's still a large area.
626
00:45:58,672 --> 00:46:02,509
It's vast, so pinpointing her
is becoming very difficult,
627
00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:06,680
but we feel like we've narrowed it down
to a good approximate area
628
00:46:06,764 --> 00:46:08,182
where we believe she's at.
629
00:46:17,816 --> 00:46:19,693
[Kevin] The case with Marliz is still open
630
00:46:19,777 --> 00:46:22,863
and is still under an investigation
by the Red Bluff Police Department.
631
00:46:22,946 --> 00:46:26,033
-[mysterious music playing]
-It's always been a homicide case.
632
00:46:28,702 --> 00:46:31,997
Chico Police Department still has it open
as a missing persons case
633
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,293
because she was reported missing
to the Chico Police Department in 1976.
634
00:46:44,885 --> 00:46:47,095
-Hi, Jodi. How you been?
-Good, how are you?
635
00:46:47,179 --> 00:46:48,931
-Good! Nice to see you.
-Yeah.
636
00:46:49,014 --> 00:46:51,391
-It's been a long time. Yeah.
-Long time.
637
00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:54,603
[Kevin] To this day, we've never
talked to Jodi about the case
638
00:46:55,103 --> 00:46:58,774
as far as the numbers for the area
we thought was a potential grave site
639
00:46:58,857 --> 00:47:00,651
and the number she gave us.
640
00:47:00,734 --> 00:47:03,695
I don't think Jodi knows how close she was
641
00:47:03,779 --> 00:47:07,199
when she contacted us in July of 2008.
642
00:47:07,825 --> 00:47:10,702
The district attorney and I
have discussed talking about it now.
643
00:47:10,786 --> 00:47:14,164
Would that potentially damage the case
in a future court hearing?
644
00:47:14,248 --> 00:47:16,124
-Yeah.
-And we decided it would not.
645
00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:20,546
So the hope is, by talking about it now,
that we can get some closure on it.
646
00:47:21,588 --> 00:47:22,923
At the time you called us,
647
00:47:23,006 --> 00:47:26,093
that just happened to be the time
when we opened the case back up.
648
00:47:26,176 --> 00:47:27,845
-So that...
-Yeah. No I had no idea.
649
00:47:27,928 --> 00:47:31,014
...in intensifying
our search for Marliz's grave site.
650
00:47:31,098 --> 00:47:34,560
We were searching an area
where we feel she could be at.
651
00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:36,937
I don't know if you remember
when we talked to you,
652
00:47:37,020 --> 00:47:40,691
but you said you were
envisioning this number, "35.76."
653
00:47:40,774 --> 00:47:42,901
-Yeah. Right.
-You kept seeing that number.
654
00:47:42,985 --> 00:47:47,531
And you kinda felt like that was the
distance from the house to her grave site.
655
00:47:47,614 --> 00:47:50,075
And I think you said
in a northeasterly direction.
656
00:47:50,158 --> 00:47:50,993
Yeah.
657
00:47:51,076 --> 00:47:53,704
After we talked to you, we went back
and used a mapping software
658
00:47:53,787 --> 00:47:57,833
and actually pinpointed the house
and where we thought she may be at.
659
00:47:57,916 --> 00:47:58,750
Yeah.
660
00:47:58,834 --> 00:48:00,711
And the number you gave us was 35.76,
661
00:48:00,794 --> 00:48:04,423
and the number we came up
with that mapping software was 35.77.
662
00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:06,425
So it was very close.
663
00:48:07,092 --> 00:48:08,844
-What?
-It had some of us a little worried.
664
00:48:08,927 --> 00:48:12,139
I kinda freaked out too, 'cause you had
no idea where we were searching,
665
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:16,226
and all the elements that Janice gave us
in her statement were on that road.
666
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:20,981
So Janice and I gave similar
667
00:48:21,940 --> 00:48:23,025
area information?
668
00:48:23,108 --> 00:48:23,942
Correct.
669
00:48:24,026 --> 00:48:27,195
And me not even knowing anything,
just having random dreams.
670
00:48:27,279 --> 00:48:28,113
Yes.
671
00:48:29,031 --> 00:48:34,411
For years, I've been wondering if any
of anything that I gave you was relevant
672
00:48:34,494 --> 00:48:36,872
or how it helped on any level.
673
00:48:36,955 --> 00:48:40,042
It definitely helped reinforce the area
we thought she's at.
674
00:48:40,125 --> 00:48:42,419
So, hopefully, you know, this information,
675
00:48:42,502 --> 00:48:44,630
and hopefully
sitting here talking about it
676
00:48:44,713 --> 00:48:47,883
will help get some sort of resolution
for Marliz and her family.
677
00:48:48,842 --> 00:48:51,720
-[tranquil music playing]
-[Jodi] I've always had a sense
678
00:48:51,803 --> 00:48:54,222
that there was
something other than me out there.
679
00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:55,891
You know, bigger than me.
680
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:02,689
And I want to be a person
known for being caring, empathetic.
681
00:49:02,773 --> 00:49:06,735
And if I have something
that can help another person,
682
00:49:06,818 --> 00:49:08,779
then I want to help that person.
683
00:49:09,488 --> 00:49:14,368
I feel like the spirit of Marliz
was trying to get in touch with someone.
684
00:49:14,451 --> 00:49:20,165
And I want her soul to find rest,
really, you know?
685
00:49:21,541 --> 00:49:24,044
And if I can help her,
that's what I wanna do.
686
00:49:24,962 --> 00:49:26,546
[Hannah] Is she falling asleep?
687
00:49:31,218 --> 00:49:33,887
{\an8}[Al] I retired from
the Red Bluff Police Department
688
00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:36,056
in June of 2007.
689
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,434
And the only case that is still active
690
00:49:39,518 --> 00:49:43,146
is this case,
the homicide involving Marliz.
691
00:49:45,148 --> 00:49:47,275
Well, any time you have a cold case,
692
00:49:47,859 --> 00:49:50,862
you always wanna try
to obtain closure for the family.
693
00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:53,407
You wanna see justice for the victim.
694
00:49:55,909 --> 00:49:59,121
So there's always gonna be an effort
on law enforcement's part
695
00:49:59,204 --> 00:50:01,456
to try and close these type of cases.
696
00:50:06,503 --> 00:50:09,256
[Carla] Cameron was
sentenced to 104 years.
697
00:50:11,508 --> 00:50:14,553
You would think that he would be in prison
for the rest of his life.
698
00:50:14,636 --> 00:50:16,638
But, unfortunately,
699
00:50:16,722 --> 00:50:21,101
it does happen that people
that shouldn't be set free are set free,
700
00:50:21,184 --> 00:50:23,228
and then they repeat their crimes.
701
00:50:26,231 --> 00:50:28,400
[Kevin] Cameron has
already been granted parole
702
00:50:28,483 --> 00:50:32,279
and will go to a county jail
somewhere in the Alameda area, I believe,
703
00:50:32,362 --> 00:50:35,323
and will actually start
mental health evaluations.
704
00:50:35,407 --> 00:50:38,869
So he will probably be held
at a mental health hospital
705
00:50:38,952 --> 00:50:40,954
for several years.
706
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:44,624
But at any time, he could
be released from that, potentially.
707
00:51:03,518 --> 00:51:07,022
[Martha] This was the apartment building
my sister Marliz moved into.
708
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,151
She was gonna start her new life
here in Chico.
709
00:51:15,322 --> 00:51:18,700
I was kind of hoping
she would realize her dream out here.
710
00:51:18,784 --> 00:51:20,952
[wistful music playing]
711
00:51:21,036 --> 00:51:24,498
[Martha] Sometimes I would
see movies and go,
712
00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:27,709
"God, that looks like Marliz," you know?
713
00:51:27,793 --> 00:51:30,504
But then, after a while,
you're, like, hoping, I think.
714
00:51:30,587 --> 00:51:33,298
Just blind hope.
715
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:41,306
I think Marliz's story never got told.
716
00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:43,809
Her story never got finished.
717
00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:46,728
There was no body.
718
00:51:48,438 --> 00:51:52,526
Cameron Hooker went to prison
for what he did to Colleen,
719
00:51:54,653 --> 00:51:58,865
and my sister's still out there
waiting for justice.
720
00:52:03,745 --> 00:52:05,747
[mysterious music playing]