[phone line ringing]
[operator] 911, what's your emergency?
Hi. Uh, this is Deirdre with Hancock County ODOT.
-[operator] Mmm-hmm. -And our guys are out mowing on 75…
[operator] Mmm-hmm.
[Deirdre] …and came across a weird-looking sleeping bag.
And there's something in it that's tied up.
The spot where they found this sleeping bag,
it's a row of pine trees along Interstate 75.
I walked up and picked the bag up
and realized that it was something heavy in the bag.
The size of the bag,
we thought maybe it was somebody's dog that they had put in the bag.
And then the only other thought process that we had was,
"What if it's a child in there?"
We figured we better call patrol. We didn't want to open it up.
[police siren wailing]
The Ohio State Trooper showed up.
And then he opened the bag up and looked in there.
He did a double-take. He's like, "I just… I gotta look again."
And he's like, "That's definitely a foot in there."
[Diane Scala-Burnett] The remains consisted of
the lower portion of the body.
I had attached legs and buttocks,
but everything from the umbilicus up was gone.
It had been severed.
The person that did this,
what are they thinking when they are separating
a human body into pieces?
What's going through their mind?
Humans are capable of very… vile acts.
[mysterious music playing]
[reflective music playing]
[Elton D. Carter, Sr.] This is where my son David's funeral service was held.
This auditorium was absolutely packed.
Standing room only.
Uh, people lining the walls, all… all in the aisle way.
It was really, really overwhelming to see that many people.
To think that David touched that many people.
-[projector whirring] -[David on video] What up, everybody?
It's your boy Dave Carter from Lavish Habits Unlimited.
I have things I wanna accomplish today, tomorrow, five years down the line,
ten years down the line, and I have confidence in myself.
Once I accomplish my goals, I move on to the next.
[indistinct chatter and laughter on video]
[Elton] David was 39 when he was killed.
-[man on video] What up, son? -[woman laughing on video]
[Elton] He was a fun-loving person. Serious but fun-loving.
Tall, handsome, athletic.
David was my best friend.
David was the person I would call for any advice.
He took pride in everything that he did.
David worked very, very hard.
He had a full-time job at a manufacturing plant,
and on the side, he started his own clothing line
called Lavish Habits Unlimited.
When David and I met, we were nine years old.
David was a best friend to me.
He was someone that I could trust,
but we definitely always kept it a platonic relationship.
We had a boundary there.
David always, you know, wanted to grow up and have a family, and be married.
He was always a very stand-up guy.
And once he became a father, it upped a level.
[Elton] Everything was geared around his son.
He was a very involved father with DJ.
The relationship with me and my dad, I'd say we were like best friends.
We were always doing something together.
Our bond was just something that you just couldn't break.
I knew I liked David when I first seen him.
He was funny. He just made me laugh.
We just started going out and having a good time.
I was 19.
He must have just turned 20.
When DJ was born,
David was excited.
I don't even think he got a good look at DJ
before he ran out in the hallway just screaming, "I got a boy!"
David and I were off and on from 2000 to 2014,
but we remained close as co-parents for DJ.
After that, David had lots of female friends.
Um…
He definitely had his share of relationships and girlfriends.
Then in the middle of March 2018,
David walked up with this young lady that I had never seen before.
He came up, he introduced her.
"This is my friend Tammy."
Tammy and David had went to high school together.
They reconnected at a mutual friend's birthday party,
which eventually turned into a relationship.
Tammy worked for the Detroit Medical Center.
Also Tammy was a travel agent,
and she did tell me that she had twins.
She had a son and a daughter who were 18 at the time.
[Angela] Tammy and I met in high school.
David, Tammy, and I were all in the same graduating class.
Her personality in high school was very bubbly.
At that time, she was pretty solid as a friend.
But after high school, a lot of us, um, went our separate ways.
Around March 2018, uh,
I found out that David and Tammy were dating, and it was a brow-raiser.
But, you know, as friends, we want the best for each other.
And if David was happy, you know, I was happy for him.
They were spending a lot of time together,
like being with her, like, every day. As if you thought, like, "Okay."
"Maybe this is probably the one that my dad is going to be with and marry."
I can say that David seemed happy. I believe they had fun.
I believe they had a good time within the six months they had been together.
But she was very obsessive over David.
[Elton] I don't try to get too involved
with my children's affairs of the heart.
But when we did have a gathering, she would…
watch David.
You know, if he was talking to somebody else…
-[sinister music playing] -…she would keep an eye on him.
[Tasia] Every day. Every day we saw David, we saw Tammy.
She wasn't far behind.
I didn't care for Tammy from the moment I met her.
Everybody thought, "Oh, you're the crazy little sister."
You know, "You don't like nobody."
And I'm like, "Well, that very well may be,
but I know I don't like her."
[Samia] On September 30th, it was just our average normal Sunday.
DJ was preparing to go to his dad's house for the evening.
And then I got a text message from David saying,
"I don't feel good. I'm not sure what's wrong."
"And I don't think that DJ should come over here tonight."
[DJ] I tried to text him myself.
Got replies back from my dad, saying he was sick, and, like, very sick
to where, like, he didn't want anybody around him.
DJ said, "Well, I have some stuff at my dad's apartment I need to get."
And I said, "Okay."
When I pulled up to my dad's house,
I seen Tammy taking out the garbage.
I say, you know, "Hey." You know, whatever. She seen me.
And she ran to the apartment door. Like, ran.
[menacing music playing]
And when I got to my dad's house, the door was locked.
You'd have thought since she saw me, she'd have left it unlocked.
But I had a key.
So I went in, and she came up to me first, like, "Hey, DJ, what's going on?"
So I asked her, "Hey, have you seen my charger to my phone?"
She said, "No. Haven't seen it."
And I noticed my dad's bedroom door was closed, which was odd.
And then she closes his bathroom door as well.
Thought that was kind of weird.
I say, "Since I'm at my dad's house, let me just say 'What's up?' to him."
You know, stuff like that. And, um…
She's talking like, "Nah, he's not here. He went out for a walk."
Thought in my head, like, "That's pretty weird. Who's…"
You know, "He's sick. It's cold outside. Who goes for a walk?"
Um, didn't make any sense.
But I have to make it to my grandmother's house.
[menacing music continues]
And I just left.
[Roger Davis] I've known David for 19 years.
We met at a plant working together for ten, 12 hours a day,
and we became real close.
Last time I seen Dave was, uh, that Thursday.
We had to work Sunday, but Dave…
Dave didn't come to work Sunday.
That was just out of the ordinary for Dave to miss double time.
When Tuesday came around, Dave hadn't been to work in three days.
I was like, "No. Something ain't right."
[Tasia] On Tuesday, I got a call.
Roger said, "This is his third day not coming to work."
"So, can you go by his apartment just to see if he is okay?"
So I called his phone.
Went straight to voice mail.
Then I called Davis's girlfriend, Tammy.
I said, "Hey, is David okay?"
She said, "I haven't talked to him since Sunday."
So Derek, my husband, and I went over to David's apartment.
We see David's car is in the parking lot.
We get to the door, knock on the door. Nobody's coming to the door.
So, I went to grab the door handle,
and you can open the door.
[ominous music playing]
So I start freaking out like, "Why is it open?"
"He always locked this apartment up."
At that point, I knew that something wasn't right.
So I called my dad,
and I called Samia, DJ's mom as well.
Tasia said, "Dad, I got a phone call from David's job."
"One of his coworkers said that
he hasn't been to work in three or four days."
And I'm like, "What?"
[Samia] We all got to the apartment.
I was looking around, and I was thinking,
"David would never leave his apartment like this."
Like, "He would never ball his sheets up and just stick them in a closet."
[Tasia] We get to David's room,
and the bed isn't made.
My brother is a neat freak.
David would never leave without making the bed.
So I look under the bed.
And there's a big, huge red stain,
and I could tell that the bed had been moved
to cover the stain because it's carpet.
And the indentation from the bed sitting so long,
you could tell that it had been moved.
[Samia] And I pulled up the comforter off the bed,
and that's when I seen what appeared to be…
blood.
[dark music playing]
And at the top of the mattress, there was a hole.
I walked around.
There was a hole in the bottom left-hand corner of the closet door.
Being a soldier, I knew it was a bullet hole.
I realized that, "Okay. Something's wrong here."
I told everybody, "Everybody out."
[Tasia] We went to Melvindale Police and filed a missing person's report.
We're searching, calling hospitals. I'm calling morgues.
[reporter] This afternoon, Michigan State Police investigators
were searching for clues near Outer Drive and Allen Road.
[Elton] Melvindale Police taped off the apartment.
They had a front loader out there.
They were actively going through the dumpster, you know,
checking garbage bags and stuff like that.
In the meantime,
you know, we were just waiting for a word from if anybody found him.
[Tasia] And I got on Facebook.
"If anybody's seen David, y'all please let me know."
When David Carter didn't show up for work earlier this week,
his family sounded the alarm.
Police department and the family are looking for any help they can get
from anybody who knows him…
[Tasia] On that Tuesday night,
after we saw the stain and the bullet hole,
I called Tammy and I said,
"Tammy, I'm gonna ask you one more time. Where is my brother?"
And she said, "Tasia, I don't know what you're talking about."
"I haven't seen him since Sunday."
And she showed no concern as to me telling her that he was missing.
I said, "Okay. If I find out you had something to do with my brother
and me not being able to find him, we're gonna have a whole problem."
Tammy was at work.
She just went about her day just like it was a normal day.
She was on social media a few times.
She basically was just living her normal life.
It was unbelievable to me
for a person that had been with him almost every day for six months
for her not to leave work, and show up with us, and help find David.
[Samia] She was nowhere to be found. You're his girlfriend.
You don't seem to be as worried as everybody else.
[dark music playing]
[reporter 1] An ODOT employee discovered a sleeping bag along the side of I-75…
[reporter 2] The Hancock County coroner
has ruled the human remains found on I-75 a homicide.
[reporter 3] They suspect the victim
might have been on the side of the highway for a few days.
Investigators are reviewing missing person reports.
[Diane] Grass mowers from ODOT,
Ohio Department of Transportation,
had found a sleeping bag in the weeds
by the berm of the road off of I-75.
Inside the sleeping bag
was the dismembered lower half of the body.
All I had was a lower torso and legs.
It looked to me like this male
was either Black or biracial.
His inseam measured 36 inches.
That's a pretty tall person.
During the autopsy,
we found a very characteristic tattoo on the left upper leg.
It was a tattoo of a pit bull with red eyes.
That's unusual.
So we sent that photograph up to Melvindale, Michigan,
which is where there was a missing person.
[Elton] The Chief of Police of Melvindale called me and asked me to come down
because he had some questions to ask me.
It was a tattoo that he was very, very interested in.
I told him he had the tattoo of a pit bull on his leg.
And I asked the chief, I said,
"You found him?" And he said, "Yeah."
[somber music playing]
For me, being a soldier,
death is something that's part of life.
It's inevitable.
It's just I…
never thought it would happen to a family member in this manner.
[softly] Tough. Tough.
Really, really tough.
[Derrick] I assisted Mr. Carter over to the police department.
I'll never forget.
It was just so… so many emotions.
So I'm driving back from the police station.
[voice breaking] I don't wanna see Tasia's face.
My husband's driving, and he pulls up, and I see it all over his face.
You know, I see it, like, all over his face,
and he gets out, and he just grabbed me, and he just said, "Boo, he gone."
I had no… words.
Like, I really felt like I had been gut-punched.
My concern was, um… his mother.
All of the things that I've been through, I've done, that's nothing.
I can't think of anything that…
was harder than telling her that it was our son.
She just broke down.
It was like everything drained out of her.
Nothing I could do…
but hold her.
[quietly] That's, uh…
That's all I could do.
[DJ] I asked my uncle, like, "What happened?"
You know, 'cause I wanted to know. He wouldn't tell me at first.
I'm like, "What happened?"
"You have to tell me. It's my dad." You know?
And, um…
He said, "Yeah, they found your dad, but…
they found him chopped up."
"His body parts chopped up."
I just walked away and did not want to look at nobody.
I'm literally, like, on the side of the car,
slouched down, sitting on the grass,
crying, full of anger and sadness.
My father was a person that I looked up to ever since I was born.
I had never felt so numb.
[voice breaking] The friend and the sister in me…
wanted to get to the bottom of it.
Who did this to you?
[DJ] I'm pointing all my arrows at Tammy
because, "You're the last person that saw him."
[dark music playing]
I'm like, "Okay."
"Tammy is the key. She knows what happened."
[Tasia] A few weeks before David was murdered, he asked my female cousin,
"Hey, you wanna go to the movies?"
So they went to see the movie. My cousin drove.
When they returned back to David's apartment,
all four of David's tires were slashed.
David was like, "Oh, my God."
I believe that he knew then that Tammy had did it,
that Tammy had slashed his tires,
because she must have been mad that he took my cousin to the movies
and didn't take her to the movies.
Like, who… who does that?
Angry female. That's how I chalked it up.
"Okay. She's mad. She's that type of person."
When a person is jealous,
and when a person is selfish,
there is no measure
for what they'll do.
[crowd cheering]
[Samia] On the Friday night before David disappeared,
the whole family was at DJ's football game.
That was the last time I saw David
and the last time his sister saw him.
Last time his son saw him.
[Tasia] David and Tammy were already at the game when me and my husband arrived.
David was watching the game.
[David] Oh! Yeah! Good hit!
David was laughing and joking with us
and hollering at the game at the same time.
We were throwing popcorn and just having a good time at that game.
David and Tammy had came to the game together,
but weren't together at the game.
[Tasia] I asked my brother, "Are y'all okay?"
"Why's she not coming down?"
He was like, "She'll be all right."
I just thought maybe they got into an argument. They wasn't talking.
[Samia] I took a moment and gazed around the stands,
and Tammy was looking dead in my face,
like, straightaway in my face, and…
it just looked like I had saw the devil.
It stuck with me to this day. I can still see the look on her face.
I believe my brother David broke it off with Tammy.
I believe that night after the football game,
whatever they were going through, that that was the last straw for him.
And he was just like, "You know what? I can't do this anymore."
And she couldn't take it.
I believe she was jealous of David's relationship with everyone,
with me, with his son, you know, with our parents.
I believe she was just ultimately jealous of anybody he had contact with.
But I never, never thought Tammy would be capable of murder.
Never.
[Roger] I think he was trying to figure out how to leave.
It was taking him time to totally pull away,
but that's 'cause she was so… so possessive.
She knew that Dave wanted to break up, and it sparked a madness about her
that's just, "If I can't have him, can't nobody else have him."
[Tasia] I told the police to look into Tammy,
but the police didn't tell us anything about what they were doing
or what they had found.
[somber music playing]
A few days after we got the news about David,
my nephew had his football game.
[DJ] Head coach asked me, "Do you need time away from football?"
I told him, I said, "No, because…
I'm not walking away from that."
"That's not something that my father would want me to do."
The night of the game, it was rocking.
Everyone showed me love.
Family and friends, they all sat next to each other in the stands.
It's like… It's like the whole stands were family.
There's a quote that my dad taught me, it was,
"Whatever happens, just keep on going no matter what."
So before that game, I told myself that, "I'm going to play."
"I'm gonna play for him."
[crowd cheering]
[DJ] It's so crazy to say that… it wasn't me playing.
Um…
[laughs] I really felt like it was him in me that was doing moves
that I didn't really knew that I had in me, you know?
-[reflective music playing] -[crowd cheering]
[Tasia] During DJ's football game, my dad called me.
And my dad said, "Well, you know, I need to tell you something."`
And he was like, "They got her." And I'm like, "They got who?"
And he was like, "They arrested Tammy."
[suspenseful music playing]
[DJ] To find out that Tammy was arrested that night,
it lifted everyone up.
Like, it brought joy.
We just couldn't believe it. Like, "Oh, my God! They got her."
"We got some justice."
Everybody's full of tears and just happy.
[suspenseful music continues]
[DJ] A couple days later, she was released.
[reporter] The person of interest taken into custody on Friday has been released.
That according to Melvindale Police, confirming that information late tonight.
Their investigation is still ongoing.
[Andrew Battersby] Tammy Williams was brought to Melvindale PD for questioning.
There were some interviews conducted.
She was released pending more investigation.
[tense music playing]
I'm limited on what I can discuss
because I don't want it to hinder our investigation.
But what I can tell you is that
they didn't have enough at that time to hold her and charge her with a crime.
[Elton] Having to let her go, to me,
I mean, that was like a kick in the stomach.
[Tasia] They can only hold her for 72 hours.
They have to locate the rest of his remains
because they need a cause of death.
[dark music playing]
[reporter] New developments tonight in the murder of a Melvindale father.
More of his remains were discovered along I-75 south of Findlay.
[Diane] They had found another body part off of the same Interstate 75
that the first set was found.
They proceeded to send the second set up to us,
which was in a little black duffel bag with red straps.
And in the bag, uh, there was a human head.
It was wrapped in the small grocery bags with the handles.
And one of the grocery bags was tied under his chin.
[dark music continues]
We got the third call that they had found the rest of the remains
in a little multicolored suitcase.
Big, bright flowers on it.
And inside the suitcase, there was a comforter.
And inside the comforter, there was the third set of remains.
It had upper torso, two arms, two hands, all the fingers.
You could put the whole body together now.
He had a gunshot wound right here
below the earlobe and sort of toward the back.
The wound went this way.
Exit was at the top of the head.
He had a single gunshot wound.
Very close range. Almost near contact.
Now I had a cause of death.
There was no evidence of defense wounds,
no evidence of a struggle,
no other evidence of injury anywhere.
You have a tall man, 190 pounds, and he puts up no fight?
Did he not see the gun coming?
Was he asleep?
Was he incapacitated somehow?
I don't know.
Interestingly enough,
he had an antihistamine in his bloodstream.
That makes you sleepy.
I believe, for him, it was a quick death.
[Tasia] I think that on September 29th,
my brother went to bed.
Tammy had an extra key to my brother's apartment,
and I believe that she went in while my brother was asleep…
and shot him in the head.
[Elton] There were texts sent from his phone
to make people think that it was him texting,
but it was her.
I assumed the texts…
In the beginning, I assumed they were from him,
because I wouldn't have any other reason to think that they weren't.
But when I went back and really read the text,
how the text was worded,
it wasn't how he would have worded that text.
After he died,
I think the person responsible for the death
was faced with a huge problem.
"How do I get rid of a 190-pound, 6'4" man?"
"I can't carry him down the stairs."
The lower part of the remains alone weighed 73 pounds.
I think the dismemberment, in this case, was more logistical to move the body.
He had been separated by cuts.
Nothing like a saw.
These were, in my opinion,
probably nothing more than your average kitchen knife.
But it took some time.
You cannot separate a body into three parts
in a very short period of time with instruments like this.
[dark music playing]
[Tasia] The fact that she could not only shoot her boyfriend in the head,
but cut up his body,
purchase the items that his body was ultimately found in,
and then drive to scatter them along I-75…
and then wake up and go to work for the rest of the week?
That tells me that she's a psychopath.
We're just waiting on word for them to go pick up Tammy.
We have the memorial October 27.
Thanksgiving comes. Christmas comes.
And it wasn't until January 2019
that we found out that October 2018 Tammy had fled Michigan.
[reporter] Williams has been on the run since October.
Tamera Renee Williams,
and police say she murdered and dismembered her boyfriend in Melvindale.
[Elton] Tamera, if you're out there, turn yourself in, baby.
Can't keep running.
And now a hunt is on so intense they've brought on the US Marshals.
US Marshals get cases assigned to us
basically for people committing heinous and serious crimes
and that are usually on the run for that crime.
And we go out and locate them and bring them to justice.
This case was extremely brutal because of the nature of it.
This person was found in multiple pieces,
and it takes a special individual to do that to somebody.
This was calculated. This was planned.
This was thought out.
Tammy is accused with homicide,
dismemberment, tampering with evidence, and felony firearm.
[chuckles] We're talking about a dangerous woman.
The weapon that was used has not been recovered.
So she's probably armed and dangerous.
I learned quite a bit about Tammy Williams during my investigation.
On October 16th, 2018, she was seen in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
According to credit card receipts,
made a couple of cash withdrawals from an ATM.
Had dinner.
I can tell you we have her on camera at the restaurant.
And then after her meal, she sat there for quite some time,
and had some drinks, and everything.
She went outside, loaded on a rickshaw,
and had the rickshaw take her back to a hotel.
She then woke up the next morning, the morning of the 17th,
went to the train station in Ann Arbor.
Took an Amtrak train from Ann Arbor to Chicago,
loads on a train there to Penn Station, New York,
and checks into a hotel called the Neptune Hotel.
Nobody's looking for Tammy at this point.
When she checked into the hotel,
she checked in in her name with her driver's license,
stayed the night there,
and got up the next morning, October 18th.
She was seen on camera leaving the hotel,
and that's the last time she was seen.
Tammy Williams is a Black female, 5'5", approximately 180 to 200 pounds.
She's currently 42 years old.
[Tasia] On Facebook and on Instagram,
Tammy was always, like, the master of disguise.
One day she had long hair. One day she had short hair.
One day it was blond. One day it was brunette.
[Andrew] She could have short braids.
She could be wearing wigs.
The one thing that's common on her, though,
is she has a huge rose tattoo on her left shoulder
that basically goes from the elbow all the way up over the shoulder.
That rose bouquet is gonna stand out.
It's very distinctive,
and it'd be pretty difficult to miss, cover up, or remove.
But on top of that, let's just say hypothetically,
she got it covered.
That means there's a tattoo artist out there somewhere
that covered that bunch of roses.
If Tammy was working a job right now… She was a travel agent.
She could have booked your trip to wherever.
She could be working at a hospital.
She could have taken your blood yesterday.
Let's be honest. She's not afraid of blood.
It's been a while since I've spoke to any members of her family,
but every time I have, it's, "No idea. Haven't heard from her."
"Haven't talked to her."
And I personally don't believe that.
Somebody is helping her financially
and also providing her with a roof, a place to stay.
She just did not disappear.
Throughout my interviews with many different people,
they've all said,
"She's always been one of those girls that needs to have a guy in her life."
And that scares me
that this woman is still free after committing this crime,
and she could hurt somebody else.
[DJ] I've thought about that plenty of times,
of going to my dad's bedroom that Sunday night.
Maybe I should've went in there,
but maybe it was probably a good decision to not go in there, because…
I don't know, something in me was just saying, "Don't go in there."
Something probably could've happened to me if I had went in my dad's room.
[reporter 1] The hunt is on as the US Marshals put all hands on deck
in this worldwide fugitive hunt.
[reporter 2] Tammy could be in a new relationship at this point.
[man] Maybe she's dating another guy. You know, he could be at risk.
[reporter 3] Family members of the young father
are still praying Tamera will be found to face charges.
[suspenseful music playing]
-[projector whirring] -[somber music playing]
[Elton] At my son David's funeral,
many people spoke about him.
It was really touching.
[David on video] Life stay's full of happiness,
and sometimes life is full of shit.
[Elton on video] Yes, it is. Uh-huh.
[Elton] And everybody was talking about David, and how they knew him,
and giving my wife Marie and I
their condolences, and hugging us.
[voice breaking] Marie, she… Oh, wow.
…quite naturally cried through the whole thing.
And I felt helpless…
trying to console her.
[Tasia] I always say, "Tammy didn't just kill my brother."
She killed my mother too,
because our mother was diagnosed with cancer
six days prior to Tammy murdering David.
She was so heartbroken after he was murdered,
so she stopped going to her cancer treatment,
and my mom passed away.
[somber music continues]
[Samia] There is not a day
that goes by that I do not think of David.
I look at DJ.
I start thinking about all the things that he's accomplished,
all the things that he's doing, and I say,
"Man, if his dad was here, he'd be so proud."
[DJ] As of right now,
I'm at Eastern Michigan University playing football,
and I'm majoring in business management.
I've taken over my dad's clothing business.
I'm doing okay…
but there are thoughts that get to my head
that almost make me want to break down sometimes.
Like, "Wow."
"I don't have a father no more."
If I had a few minutes with my dad right now,
I would ask him, "Is he proud of me of where I'm at?"
And I'd tell him that I love him for sure, and I miss him.
[Tasia] When David left us, it was like a black hole.
Like nothing or no one has been able to fill it.
You never know how much light somebody brings into a room
until it's no longer there.
So it's been dark.
[people singing on video] ♪ How old are you… ♪
[Tasia] I miss the jokes and the laughs.
[voice breaking] I miss our talks, our fights.
I just miss him. I miss everything about him.
[sinister music playing]
I have faith that somehow, some way, somebody's gonna see Tammy,
and she's gonna be caught.
It's not gonna bring David back,
but it will at least allow us to
let him rest in peace.
[dramatic music playing]
I'm Buffalo Jim. It's another Friday night, brother.
[man 1] Somebody decided to get rid of Buffalo.
[woman 1] This is the room my father was found dead in.
[man 1] They got him into a vulnerable situation.
We thought it was a setup.
You never know what's gonna happen.
[man 2] Do you believe in Bigfoot?
Do you believe in UFOs?
I was like, "Wow!"
[man 3] Hey, Josh.
[woman 2] For them to say, "Josh just got up,
and said he was going to the bathroom, and never came back."
It doesn't make any sense to me.
There's more to it than what they're saying.
[woman 3] I think Josh had secrets just like everybody else has secrets.
I wish that whoever knew those secrets would come forward.
[dramatic music playing]
[mysterious music playing]