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[phone line ringing]

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[operator] 911, what's your emergency?

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Hi. Uh, this is Deirdre
with Hancock County ODOT.

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-[operator] Mmm-hmm.
-And our guys are out mowing on 75…

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[operator] Mmm-hmm.

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[Deirdre] …and came across
a weird-looking sleeping bag.

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And there's something in it
that's tied up.

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The spot where they found
this sleeping bag,

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it's a row of pine trees
along Interstate 75.

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I walked up and picked the bag up

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and realized that
it was something heavy in the bag.

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The size of the bag,

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we thought maybe it was somebody's dog
that they had put in the bag.

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And then the only other
thought process that we had was,

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"What if it's a child in there?"

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We figured we better call patrol.
We didn't want to open it up.

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[police siren wailing]

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The Ohio State Trooper showed up.

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And then he opened the bag up
and looked in there.

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He did a double-take.
He's like, "I just… I gotta look again."

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And he's like,
"That's definitely a foot in there."

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[Diane Scala-Burnett]
The remains consisted of

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the lower portion of the body.

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I had attached legs and buttocks,

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but everything
from the umbilicus up was gone.

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It had been severed.

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The person that did this,

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what are they thinking
when they are separating

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a human body into pieces?

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What's going through their mind?

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Humans are capable of very… vile acts.

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[mysterious music playing]

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[reflective music playing]

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[Elton D. Carter, Sr.] This is where
my son David's funeral service was held.

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This auditorium was absolutely packed.

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Standing room only.

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Uh, people lining the walls, all…
all in the aisle way.

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It was really, really overwhelming
to see that many people.

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To think that David touched
that many people.

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-[projector whirring]
-[David on video] What up, everybody?

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It's your boy Dave Carter
from Lavish Habits Unlimited.

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I have things I wanna accomplish today,
tomorrow, five years down the line,

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ten years down the line,
and I have confidence in myself.

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Once I accomplish my goals,
I move on to the next.

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[indistinct chatter and laughter on video]

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[Elton] David was 39 when he was killed.

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-[man on video] What up, son?
-[woman laughing on video]

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[Elton] He was a fun-loving person.
Serious but fun-loving.

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Tall, handsome, athletic.

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David was my best friend.

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David was the person I would call
for any advice.

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He took pride in everything that he did.

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David worked very, very hard.

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He had a full-time job
at a manufacturing plant,

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and on the side,
he started his own clothing line

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called Lavish Habits Unlimited.

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When David and I met,
we were nine years old.

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David was a best friend to me.

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He was someone that I could trust,

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but we definitely always kept it
a platonic relationship.

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We had a boundary there.

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David always, you know, wanted to
grow up and have a family, and be married.

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He was always a very stand-up guy.

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And once he became a father,
it upped a level.

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[Elton] Everything was
geared around his son.

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He was a very involved father with DJ.

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The relationship with me and my dad,
I'd say we were like best friends.

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We were always doing something together.

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Our bond was just something
that you just couldn't break.

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I knew I liked David
when I first seen him.

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He was funny. He just made me laugh.

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We just started going out
and having a good time.

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I was 19.

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He must have just turned 20.

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When DJ was born,

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David was excited.

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I don't even think
he got a good look at DJ

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before he ran out in the hallway
just screaming, "I got a boy!"

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David and I were off and on
from 2000 to 2014,

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but we remained close
as co-parents for DJ.

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After that,
David had lots of female friends.

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Um…

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He definitely had his share
of relationships and girlfriends.

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Then in the middle of March 2018,

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David walked up with this young lady
that I had never seen before.

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He came up, he introduced her.

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"This is my friend Tammy."

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Tammy and David had went
to high school together.

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They reconnected
at a mutual friend's birthday party,

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which eventually turned
into a relationship.

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Tammy worked for
the Detroit Medical Center.

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Also Tammy was a travel agent,

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and she did tell me that she had twins.

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She had a son and a daughter
who were 18 at the time.

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[Angela] Tammy and I met in high school.

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David, Tammy, and I
were all in the same graduating class.

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Her personality in high school
was very bubbly.

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At that time,
she was pretty solid as a friend.

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But after high school,
a lot of us, um, went our separate ways.

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Around March 2018, uh,

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I found out that David and Tammy
were dating, and it was a brow-raiser.

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But, you know, as friends,
we want the best for each other.

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And if David was happy,
you know, I was happy for him.

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They were spending a lot of time together,

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like being with her, like, every day.
As if you thought, like, "Okay."

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"Maybe this is probably the one that
my dad is going to be with and marry."

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I can say that David seemed happy.
I believe they had fun.

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I believe they had a good time within
the six months they had been together.

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But she was very obsessive over David.

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[Elton] I don't try to get too involved

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with my children's affairs of the heart.

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But when we did have a gathering,
she would…

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watch David.

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You know,
if he was talking to somebody else…

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-[sinister music playing]
-…she would keep an eye on him.

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[Tasia] Every day.
Every day we saw David, we saw Tammy.

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She wasn't far behind.

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I didn't care for Tammy
from the moment I met her.

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Everybody thought,
"Oh, you're the crazy little sister."

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You know, "You don't like nobody."

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And I'm like,
"Well, that very well may be,

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but I know I don't like her."

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[Samia] On September 30th,
it was just our average normal Sunday.

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DJ was preparing to go to his dad's house
for the evening.

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And then I got a text message
from David saying,

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"I don't feel good.
I'm not sure what's wrong."

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"And I don't think
that DJ should come over here tonight."

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[DJ] I tried to text him myself.

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Got replies back from my dad,
saying he was sick, and, like, very sick

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to where, like,
he didn't want anybody around him.

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DJ said, "Well, I have some stuff
at my dad's apartment I need to get."

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And I said, "Okay."

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When I pulled up to my dad's house,

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I seen Tammy taking out the garbage.

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I say, you know, "Hey."
You know, whatever. She seen me.

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And she ran to the apartment door.
Like, ran.

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[menacing music playing]

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And when I got to my dad's house,
the door was locked.

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You'd have thought since she saw me,
she'd have left it unlocked.

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But I had a key.

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So I went in, and she came up to me first,
like, "Hey, DJ, what's going on?"

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So I asked her, "Hey, have you seen
my charger to my phone?"

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She said, "No. Haven't seen it."

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And I noticed my dad's bedroom door
was closed, which was odd.

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And then she closes
his bathroom door as well.

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Thought that was kind of weird.

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I say, "Since I'm at my dad's house,
let me just say 'What's up?' to him."

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You know, stuff like that. And, um…

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She's talking like, "Nah, he's not here.
He went out for a walk."

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Thought in my head,
like, "That's pretty weird. Who's…"

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You know, "He's sick. It's cold outside.
Who goes for a walk?"

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Um, didn't make any sense.

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But I have to make it
to my grandmother's house.

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[menacing music continues]

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And I just left.

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[Roger Davis]
I've known David for 19 years.

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We met at a plant working together
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and we became real close.

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Last time I seen Dave was, uh,
that Thursday.

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We had to work Sunday, but Dave…

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Dave didn't come to work Sunday.

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That was just out of the ordinary for Dave
to miss double time.

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When Tuesday came around,
Dave hadn't been to work in three days.

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I was like, "No. Something ain't right."

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[Tasia] On Tuesday, I got a call.

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Roger said, "This is his third day
not coming to work."

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"So, can you go by his apartment
just to see if he is okay?"

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So I called his phone.

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Went straight to voice mail.

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Then I called Davis's girlfriend, Tammy.

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I said, "Hey, is David okay?"

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She said,
"I haven't talked to him since Sunday."

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So Derek, my husband, and I
went over to David's apartment.

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We see David's car is in the parking lot.

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We get to the door, knock on the door.
Nobody's coming to the door.

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So, I went to grab the door handle,

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and you can open the door.

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[ominous music playing]

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So I start freaking out like,
"Why is it open?"

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"He always locked this apartment up."

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At that point,
I knew that something wasn't right.

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So I called my dad,

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and I called Samia, DJ's mom as well.

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Tasia said, "Dad, I got a phone call
from David's job."

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"One of his coworkers said that

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he hasn't been
to work in three or four days."

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And I'm like, "What?"

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[Samia] We all got to the apartment.

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I was looking around, and I was thinking,

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"David would never leave
his apartment like this."

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Like, "He would never ball his sheets up
and just stick them in a closet."

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[Tasia] We get to David's room,

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and the bed isn't made.

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My brother is a neat freak.

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David would never leave
without making the bed.

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So I look under the bed.

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And there's a big, huge red stain,

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and I could tell that
the bed had been moved

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to cover the stain because it's carpet.

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And the indentation
from the bed sitting so long,

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you could tell that it had been moved.

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[Samia] And I pulled up
the comforter off the bed,

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and that's when
I seen what appeared to be…

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blood.

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[dark music playing]

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And at the top of the mattress,
there was a hole.

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I walked around.

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There was a hole in the bottom
left-hand corner of the closet door.

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Being a soldier,
I knew it was a bullet hole.

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I realized that,
"Okay. Something's wrong here."

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I told everybody, "Everybody out."

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[Tasia] We went to Melvindale Police
and filed a missing person's report.

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We're searching, calling hospitals.
I'm calling morgues.

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[reporter] This afternoon,
Michigan State Police investigators

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were searching for clues
near Outer Drive and Allen Road.

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[Elton] Melvindale Police
taped off the apartment.

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They had a front loader out there.

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They were actively going
through the dumpster, you know,

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checking garbage bags and stuff like that.

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In the meantime,

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you know, we were just waiting
for a word from if anybody found him.

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[Tasia] And I got on Facebook.

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"If anybody's seen David,
y'all please let me know."

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When David Carter didn't show up
for work earlier this week,

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his family sounded the alarm.

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Police department and the family
are looking for any help they can get

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from anybody who knows him…

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[Tasia] On that Tuesday night,

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after we saw the stain
and the bullet hole,

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I called Tammy and I said,

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"Tammy, I'm gonna ask you one more time.
Where is my brother?"

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And she said, "Tasia, I don't know
what you're talking about."

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"I haven't seen him since Sunday."

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And she showed no concern
as to me telling her that he was missing.

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I said, "Okay. If I find out
you had something to do with my brother

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00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:16,767
and me not being able to find him,
we're gonna have a whole problem."

237
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Tammy was at work.

238
00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:23,273
She just went about her day
just like it was a normal day.

239
00:16:23,357 --> 00:16:26,235
She was on social media a few times.

240
00:16:27,277 --> 00:16:29,989
She basically
was just living her normal life.

241
00:16:30,072 --> 00:16:31,949
It was unbelievable to me

242
00:16:32,032 --> 00:16:36,328
for a person that had been with him
almost every day for six months

243
00:16:36,412 --> 00:16:41,041
for her not to leave work,
and show up with us, and help find David.

244
00:16:41,834 --> 00:16:45,129
[Samia] She was nowhere to be found.
You're his girlfriend.

245
00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:48,674
You don't seem to be
as worried as everybody else.

246
00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:53,554
[dark music playing]

247
00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:59,935
[reporter 1] An ODOT employee discovered
a sleeping bag along the side of I-75…

248
00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:01,645
[reporter 2] The Hancock County coroner

249
00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:04,356
has ruled the human remains
found on I-75 a homicide.

250
00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,941
[reporter 3] They suspect the victim

251
00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:08,527
might have been
on the side of the highway for a few days.

252
00:17:08,610 --> 00:17:11,405
Investigators are reviewing
missing person reports.

253
00:17:11,905 --> 00:17:15,117
[Diane] Grass mowers from ODOT,

254
00:17:16,368 --> 00:17:18,620
Ohio Department of Transportation,

255
00:17:18,704 --> 00:17:22,124
had found a sleeping bag in the weeds

256
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:25,294
by the berm of the road off of I-75.

257
00:17:30,924 --> 00:17:33,218
Inside the sleeping bag

258
00:17:33,719 --> 00:17:38,223
was the dismembered
lower half of the body.

259
00:17:39,058 --> 00:17:42,686
All I had was a lower torso and legs.

260
00:17:44,646 --> 00:17:48,108
It looked to me like this male

261
00:17:49,401 --> 00:17:52,196
was either Black or biracial.

262
00:17:53,781 --> 00:17:56,658
His inseam measured 36 inches.

263
00:17:57,326 --> 00:17:59,036
That's a pretty tall person.

264
00:18:01,789 --> 00:18:03,165
During the autopsy,

265
00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:09,755
we found a very characteristic tattoo
on the left upper leg.

266
00:18:09,838 --> 00:18:14,676
It was a tattoo of a pit bull
with red eyes.

267
00:18:15,302 --> 00:18:16,637
That's unusual.

268
00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:22,559
So we sent that photograph
up to Melvindale, Michigan,

269
00:18:22,643 --> 00:18:25,687
which is where there was a missing person.

270
00:18:36,323 --> 00:18:41,245
[Elton] The Chief of Police of Melvindale
called me and asked me to come down

271
00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:44,414
because he had some questions to ask me.

272
00:18:46,041 --> 00:18:50,838
It was a tattoo that he was
very, very interested in.

273
00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:55,634
I told him he had
the tattoo of a pit bull on his leg.

274
00:18:56,802 --> 00:19:00,556
And I asked the chief, I said,

275
00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:02,891
"You found him?" And he said, "Yeah."

276
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:06,854
[somber music playing]

277
00:19:08,605 --> 00:19:10,190
For me, being a soldier,

278
00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:13,819
death is something that's part of life.

279
00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:15,863
It's inevitable.

280
00:19:16,572 --> 00:19:17,573
It's just I…

281
00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:21,952
never thought it would happen
to a family member in this manner.

282
00:19:27,207 --> 00:19:29,001
[softly] Tough. Tough.

283
00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:31,670
Really, really tough.

284
00:19:37,801 --> 00:19:42,222
[Derrick] I assisted Mr. Carter
over to the police department.

285
00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:44,141
I'll never forget.

286
00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:48,020
It was just so… so many emotions.

287
00:19:50,105 --> 00:19:53,442
So I'm driving back
from the police station.

288
00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:57,529
[voice breaking]
I don't wanna see Tasia's face.

289
00:20:00,365 --> 00:20:04,745
My husband's driving, and he pulls up,
and I see it all over his face.

290
00:20:04,828 --> 00:20:07,956
You know, I see it, like,
all over his face,

291
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,002
and he gets out, and he just grabbed me,
and he just said, "Boo, he gone."

292
00:20:14,213 --> 00:20:17,299
I had no… words.

293
00:20:17,382 --> 00:20:20,010
Like, I really felt like
I had been gut-punched.

294
00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:25,724
My concern was, um… his mother.

295
00:20:27,434 --> 00:20:30,354
All of the things that I've been through,
I've done, that's nothing.

296
00:20:30,437 --> 00:20:32,898
I can't think of anything that…

297
00:20:33,774 --> 00:20:38,153
was harder than telling her
that it was our son.

298
00:20:40,864 --> 00:20:42,449
She just broke down.

299
00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:46,745
It was like everything drained out of her.

300
00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:49,873
Nothing I could do…

301
00:20:52,084 --> 00:20:53,085
but hold her.

302
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:55,087
[quietly] That's, uh…

303
00:20:56,922 --> 00:20:58,257
That's all I could do.

304
00:21:04,137 --> 00:21:06,765
[DJ] I asked my uncle, like,
"What happened?"

305
00:21:06,848 --> 00:21:10,018
You know, 'cause I wanted to know.
He wouldn't tell me at first.

306
00:21:10,102 --> 00:21:11,520
I'm like, "What happened?"

307
00:21:11,603 --> 00:21:14,231
"You have to tell me. It's my dad."
You know?

308
00:21:14,731 --> 00:21:15,691
And, um…

309
00:21:17,609 --> 00:21:20,821
He said, "Yeah, they found your dad, but…

310
00:21:21,738 --> 00:21:24,199
they found him chopped up."

311
00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:25,742
"His body parts chopped up."

312
00:21:28,161 --> 00:21:32,416
I just walked away
and did not want to look at nobody.

313
00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:35,711
I'm literally, like,
on the side of the car,

314
00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:39,131
slouched down, sitting on the grass,

315
00:21:39,214 --> 00:21:42,718
crying, full of anger and sadness.

316
00:21:43,927 --> 00:21:49,558
My father was a person that I looked up to
ever since I was born.

317
00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,484
I had never felt so numb.

318
00:22:02,321 --> 00:22:04,740
[voice breaking]
The friend and the sister in me…

319
00:22:06,533 --> 00:22:08,327
wanted to get to the bottom of it.

320
00:22:12,706 --> 00:22:14,124
Who did this to you?

321
00:22:18,086 --> 00:22:20,964
[DJ] I'm pointing all my arrows at Tammy

322
00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:23,675
because,
"You're the last person that saw him."

323
00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:27,179
[dark music playing]

324
00:22:29,473 --> 00:22:31,391
I'm like, "Okay."

325
00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:36,813
"Tammy is the key.
She knows what happened."

326
00:22:41,568 --> 00:22:47,157
[Tasia] A few weeks before David
was murdered, he asked my female cousin,

327
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,825
"Hey, you wanna go to the movies?"

328
00:22:48,909 --> 00:22:51,953
So they went to see the movie.
My cousin drove.

329
00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:56,333
When they returned
back to David's apartment,

330
00:22:56,416 --> 00:22:58,502
all four of David's tires were slashed.

331
00:22:59,252 --> 00:23:01,880
David was like, "Oh, my God."

332
00:23:01,963 --> 00:23:06,676
I believe that he knew then
that Tammy had did it,

333
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,470
that Tammy had slashed his tires,

334
00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:13,433
because she must have been mad
that he took my cousin to the movies

335
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:16,019
and didn't take her to the movies.

336
00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:20,399
Like, who… who does that?

337
00:23:21,108 --> 00:23:23,193
Angry female. That's how I chalked it up.

338
00:23:23,276 --> 00:23:27,322
"Okay. She's mad.
She's that type of person."

339
00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:29,908
When a person is jealous,

340
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:33,328
and when a person is selfish,

341
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:36,415
there is no measure

342
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:39,251
for what they'll do.

343
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:42,671
[crowd cheering]

344
00:23:45,006 --> 00:23:47,801
[Samia] On the Friday night
before David disappeared,

345
00:23:47,884 --> 00:23:50,387
the whole family
was at DJ's football game.

346
00:23:53,098 --> 00:23:55,559
That was the last time I saw David

347
00:23:55,642 --> 00:23:58,770
and the last time his sister saw him.

348
00:23:58,854 --> 00:24:00,564
Last time his son saw him.

349
00:24:03,358 --> 00:24:07,779
[Tasia] David and Tammy were already at
the game when me and my husband arrived.

350
00:24:08,363 --> 00:24:10,365
David was watching the game.

351
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,993
[David] Oh! Yeah! Good hit!

352
00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:16,997
David was laughing and joking with us

353
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,875
and hollering at the game
at the same time.

354
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:24,588
We were throwing popcorn
and just having a good time at that game.

355
00:24:25,088 --> 00:24:28,091
David and Tammy had came
to the game together,

356
00:24:28,175 --> 00:24:29,843
but weren't together at the game.

357
00:24:30,844 --> 00:24:32,679
[Tasia] I asked my brother,
"Are y'all okay?"

358
00:24:32,762 --> 00:24:33,930
"Why's she not coming down?"

359
00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:36,183
He was like, "She'll be all right."

360
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:39,644
I just thought maybe they got
into an argument. They wasn't talking.

361
00:24:41,438 --> 00:24:44,816
[Samia] I took a moment
and gazed around the stands,

362
00:24:45,442 --> 00:24:49,821
and Tammy was looking dead in my face,

363
00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:53,116
like, straightaway in my face, and…

364
00:24:54,868 --> 00:24:56,870
it just looked like I had saw the devil.

365
00:24:56,953 --> 00:25:01,666
It stuck with me to this day.
I can still see the look on her face.

366
00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:07,088
I believe my brother David
broke it off with Tammy.

367
00:25:07,589 --> 00:25:10,217
I believe that night
after the football game,

368
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:14,387
whatever they were going through,
that that was the last straw for him.

369
00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:17,057
And he was just like, "You know what?
I can't do this anymore."

370
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:18,517
And she couldn't take it.

371
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:23,313
I believe she was jealous
of David's relationship with everyone,

372
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:27,609
with me, with his son,
you know, with our parents.

373
00:25:27,692 --> 00:25:32,030
I believe she was just ultimately
jealous of anybody he had contact with.

374
00:25:32,614 --> 00:25:37,285
But I never, never thought
Tammy would be capable of murder.

375
00:25:37,953 --> 00:25:39,120
Never.

376
00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:44,376
[Roger] I think he was
trying to figure out how to leave.

377
00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:48,296
It was taking him time
to totally pull away,

378
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,341
but that's 'cause she was so…
so possessive.

379
00:25:53,635 --> 00:25:58,014
She knew that Dave wanted to break up,
and it sparked a madness about her

380
00:25:58,098 --> 00:26:02,561
that's just, "If I can't have him,
can't nobody else have him."

381
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:10,360
[Tasia] I told the police
to look into Tammy,

382
00:26:10,443 --> 00:26:14,614
but the police didn't tell us anything
about what they were doing

383
00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:16,116
or what they had found.

384
00:26:19,327 --> 00:26:21,329
[somber music playing]

385
00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:32,007
A few days after we got the news
about David,

386
00:26:32,090 --> 00:26:34,384
my nephew had his football game.

387
00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:40,849
[DJ] Head coach asked me,
"Do you need time away from football?"

388
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:44,644
I told him, I said, "No, because…

389
00:26:44,728 --> 00:26:46,354
I'm not walking away from that."

390
00:26:46,438 --> 00:26:49,816
"That's not something that my father
would want me to do."

391
00:26:51,818 --> 00:26:54,696
The night of the game, it was rocking.

392
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,324
Everyone showed me love.

393
00:26:57,407 --> 00:27:01,244
Family and friends, they all
sat next to each other in the stands.

394
00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:04,247
It's like…
It's like the whole stands were family.

395
00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:10,712
There's a quote
that my dad taught me, it was,

396
00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:15,133
"Whatever happens,
just keep on going no matter what."

397
00:27:15,216 --> 00:27:19,596
So before that game,
I told myself that, "I'm going to play."

398
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:21,306
"I'm gonna play for him."

399
00:27:21,389 --> 00:27:23,850
[crowd cheering]

400
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:27,020
[DJ] It's so crazy to say that…
it wasn't me playing.

401
00:27:27,103 --> 00:27:28,104
Um…

402
00:27:28,188 --> 00:27:33,360
[laughs] I really felt like
it was him in me that was doing moves

403
00:27:33,443 --> 00:27:36,363
that I didn't really knew
that I had in me, you know?

404
00:27:36,446 --> 00:27:38,823
-[reflective music playing]
-[crowd cheering]

405
00:27:47,707 --> 00:27:51,920
[Tasia] During DJ's football game,
my dad called me.

406
00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:55,382
And my dad said, "Well, you know,
I need to tell you something."`

407
00:27:55,465 --> 00:27:59,010
And he was like, "They got her."
And I'm like, "They got who?"

408
00:27:59,844 --> 00:28:02,347
And he was like, "They arrested Tammy."

409
00:28:05,392 --> 00:28:07,936
[suspenseful music playing]

410
00:28:13,149 --> 00:28:16,695
[DJ] To find out that
Tammy was arrested that night,

411
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:18,196
it lifted everyone up.

412
00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,240
Like, it brought joy.

413
00:28:21,658 --> 00:28:25,662
We just couldn't believe it.
Like, "Oh, my God! They got her."

414
00:28:25,745 --> 00:28:27,372
"We got some justice."

415
00:28:27,455 --> 00:28:30,041
Everybody's full of tears and just happy.

416
00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:32,127
[suspenseful music continues]

417
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:36,881
[DJ] A couple days later,
she was released.

418
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:47,600
[reporter] The person of interest taken
into custody on Friday has been released.

419
00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:51,604
That according to Melvindale Police,
confirming that information late tonight.

420
00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:54,107
Their investigation is still ongoing.

421
00:28:54,816 --> 00:28:58,069
[Andrew Battersby] Tammy Williams was
brought to Melvindale PD for questioning.

422
00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:00,029
There were some interviews conducted.

423
00:29:00,822 --> 00:29:04,743
She was released
pending more investigation.

424
00:29:05,243 --> 00:29:07,245
[tense music playing]

425
00:29:08,037 --> 00:29:09,998
I'm limited on what I can discuss

426
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:13,168
because I don't want it
to hinder our investigation.

427
00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:17,213
But what I can tell you is that

428
00:29:17,297 --> 00:29:20,925
they didn't have enough at that time
to hold her and charge her with a crime.

429
00:29:23,887 --> 00:29:26,890
[Elton] Having to let her go, to me,

430
00:29:27,974 --> 00:29:30,143
I mean, that was
like a kick in the stomach.

431
00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:33,980
[Tasia] They can only hold her
for 72 hours.

432
00:29:34,063 --> 00:29:37,400
They have to locate
the rest of his remains

433
00:29:37,484 --> 00:29:39,360
because they need a cause of death.

434
00:29:41,905 --> 00:29:43,907
[dark music playing]

435
00:29:44,616 --> 00:29:48,244
[reporter] New developments tonight
in the murder of a Melvindale father.

436
00:29:48,328 --> 00:29:52,248
More of his remains were
discovered along I-75 south of Findlay.

437
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:59,839
[Diane] They had found another body part
off of the same Interstate 75

438
00:29:59,923 --> 00:30:01,758
that the first set was found.

439
00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:08,097
They proceeded to send the second set
up to us,

440
00:30:08,181 --> 00:30:13,311
which was in a little black duffel bag
with red straps.

441
00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:18,191
And in the bag, uh,
there was a human head.

442
00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:24,697
It was wrapped in the small grocery bags
with the handles.

443
00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:30,745
And one of the grocery bags
was tied under his chin.

444
00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:33,957
[dark music continues]

445
00:30:36,292 --> 00:30:42,298
We got the third call that they had found
the rest of the remains

446
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,635
in a little multicolored suitcase.

447
00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:47,762
Big, bright flowers on it.

448
00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:51,766
And inside the suitcase,
there was a comforter.

449
00:30:53,643 --> 00:30:57,647
And inside the comforter,
there was the third set of remains.

450
00:30:58,523 --> 00:31:04,320
It had upper torso, two arms,
two hands, all the fingers.

451
00:31:04,404 --> 00:31:06,573
You could put the whole body together now.

452
00:31:08,157 --> 00:31:11,578
He had a gunshot wound right here

453
00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:16,416
below the earlobe
and sort of toward the back.

454
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:21,337
The wound went this way.

455
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,674
Exit was at the top of the head.

456
00:31:24,757 --> 00:31:27,176
He had a single gunshot wound.

457
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:31,723
Very close range. Almost near contact.

458
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,350
Now I had a cause of death.

459
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:40,440
There was no evidence of defense wounds,

460
00:31:40,523 --> 00:31:42,275
no evidence of a struggle,

461
00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:46,529
no other evidence of injury anywhere.

462
00:31:47,488 --> 00:31:52,535
You have a tall man, 190 pounds,
and he puts up no fight?

463
00:31:52,619 --> 00:31:54,454
Did he not see the gun coming?

464
00:31:54,954 --> 00:31:56,122
Was he asleep?

465
00:31:56,706 --> 00:31:58,958
Was he incapacitated somehow?

466
00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:00,752
I don't know.

467
00:32:02,337 --> 00:32:03,630
Interestingly enough,

468
00:32:03,713 --> 00:32:06,716
he had an antihistamine
in his bloodstream.

469
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:08,968
That makes you sleepy.

470
00:32:09,052 --> 00:32:12,055
I believe, for him, it was a quick death.

471
00:32:18,353 --> 00:32:21,522
[Tasia] I think that on September 29th,

472
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:23,775
my brother went to bed.

473
00:32:24,567 --> 00:32:27,820
Tammy had an extra key
to my brother's apartment,

474
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:31,324
and I believe that she
went in while my brother was asleep…

475
00:32:33,868 --> 00:32:35,453
and shot him in the head.

476
00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:40,041
[Elton] There were texts
sent from his phone

477
00:32:40,124 --> 00:32:43,544
to make people think
that it was him texting,

478
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:45,046
but it was her.

479
00:32:45,713 --> 00:32:47,382
I assumed the texts…

480
00:32:47,465 --> 00:32:50,218
In the beginning,
I assumed they were from him,

481
00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:53,680
because I wouldn't have any other reason
to think that they weren't.

482
00:32:54,472 --> 00:32:58,017
But when I went back
and really read the text,

483
00:32:58,101 --> 00:33:00,561
how the text was worded,

484
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:04,315
it wasn't how he would have
worded that text.

485
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:08,653
After he died,

486
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,241
I think the person
responsible for the death

487
00:33:13,324 --> 00:33:15,118
was faced with a huge problem.

488
00:33:15,618 --> 00:33:20,540
"How do I get rid
of a 190-pound, 6'4" man?"

489
00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:23,793
"I can't carry him down the stairs."

490
00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:29,674
The lower part of the remains alone
weighed 73 pounds.

491
00:33:31,092 --> 00:33:37,515
I think the dismemberment, in this case,
was more logistical to move the body.

492
00:33:38,975 --> 00:33:42,812
He had been separated by cuts.

493
00:33:43,396 --> 00:33:45,273
Nothing like a saw.

494
00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,693
These were, in my opinion,

495
00:33:49,777 --> 00:33:53,072
probably nothing more
than your average kitchen knife.

496
00:33:55,491 --> 00:33:57,035
But it took some time.

497
00:33:58,286 --> 00:34:03,249
You cannot separate a body
into three parts

498
00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:07,795
in a very short period of time
with instruments like this.

499
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,881
[dark music playing]

500
00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:16,596
[Tasia] The fact that she could not only
shoot her boyfriend in the head,

501
00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:20,058
but cut up his body,

502
00:34:21,225 --> 00:34:25,772
purchase the items that his body
was ultimately found in,

503
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:31,069
and then drive to scatter them along I-75…

504
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:36,908
and then wake up and go to work
for the rest of the week?

505
00:34:36,991 --> 00:34:40,828
That tells me that she's a psychopath.

506
00:34:44,665 --> 00:34:47,251
We're just waiting on word
for them to go pick up Tammy.

507
00:34:47,877 --> 00:34:52,507
We have the memorial October 27.

508
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,761
Thanksgiving comes. Christmas comes.

509
00:34:57,261 --> 00:35:02,600
And it wasn't until January 2019

510
00:35:03,267 --> 00:35:08,564
that we found out that October 2018
Tammy had fled Michigan.

511
00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:14,946
[reporter] Williams has been
on the run since October.

512
00:35:15,029 --> 00:35:16,239
Tamera Renee Williams,

513
00:35:16,322 --> 00:35:20,368
and police say she murdered and
dismembered her boyfriend in Melvindale.

514
00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:24,872
[Elton] Tamera, if you're out there,
turn yourself in, baby.

515
00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:26,749
Can't keep running.

516
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:32,004
And now a hunt is on so intense
they've brought on the US Marshals.

517
00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:36,676
US Marshals get cases assigned to us

518
00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:40,388
basically for people
committing heinous and serious crimes

519
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:42,807
and that are usually on the run
for that crime.

520
00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:45,434
And we go out and locate them
and bring them to justice.

521
00:35:47,103 --> 00:35:50,565
This case was extremely brutal
because of the nature of it.

522
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:54,110
This person was found in multiple pieces,

523
00:35:54,193 --> 00:35:57,363
and it takes a special individual
to do that to somebody.

524
00:35:59,157 --> 00:36:01,659
This was calculated. This was planned.

525
00:36:01,742 --> 00:36:04,912
This was thought out.

526
00:36:06,455 --> 00:36:08,666
Tammy is accused with homicide,

527
00:36:09,709 --> 00:36:13,671
dismemberment, tampering with evidence,
and felony firearm.

528
00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:16,924
[chuckles] We're talking
about a dangerous woman.

529
00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:19,677
The weapon that was used
has not been recovered.

530
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,096
So she's probably armed and dangerous.

531
00:36:24,307 --> 00:36:28,311
I learned quite a bit about Tammy Williams
during my investigation.

532
00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:34,859
On October 16th, 2018,
she was seen in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

533
00:36:34,942 --> 00:36:36,861
According to credit card receipts,

534
00:36:36,944 --> 00:36:40,114
made a couple of cash withdrawals
from an ATM.

535
00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:41,908
Had dinner.

536
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:45,203
I can tell you we have her on camera
at the restaurant.

537
00:36:45,703 --> 00:36:48,623
And then after her meal,
she sat there for quite some time,

538
00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:50,750
and had some drinks, and everything.

539
00:36:50,833 --> 00:36:54,837
She went outside, loaded on a rickshaw,

540
00:36:55,796 --> 00:36:58,883
and had the rickshaw
take her back to a hotel.

541
00:36:59,425 --> 00:37:02,887
She then woke up the next morning,
the morning of the 17th,

542
00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:05,306
went to the train station in Ann Arbor.

543
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:10,269
Took an Amtrak train
from Ann Arbor to Chicago,

544
00:37:11,979 --> 00:37:14,941
loads on a train there
to Penn Station, New York,

545
00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:19,737
and checks into a hotel
called the Neptune Hotel.

546
00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:23,241
Nobody's looking for Tammy at this point.

547
00:37:24,784 --> 00:37:26,410
When she checked into the hotel,

548
00:37:26,494 --> 00:37:29,372
she checked in
in her name with her driver's license,

549
00:37:29,455 --> 00:37:30,831
stayed the night there,

550
00:37:31,916 --> 00:37:35,544
and got up the next morning, October 18th.

551
00:37:35,628 --> 00:37:39,715
She was seen on camera leaving the hotel,

552
00:37:40,383 --> 00:37:42,134
and that's the last time she was seen.

553
00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:49,684
Tammy Williams is a Black female, 5'5",
approximately 180 to 200 pounds.

554
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,310
She's currently 42 years old.

555
00:37:51,894 --> 00:37:55,106
[Tasia] On Facebook and on Instagram,

556
00:37:55,189 --> 00:37:58,484
Tammy was always, like,
the master of disguise.

557
00:37:58,567 --> 00:38:01,404
One day she had long hair.
One day she had short hair.

558
00:38:01,487 --> 00:38:05,074
One day it was blond.
One day it was brunette.

559
00:38:05,157 --> 00:38:07,368
[Andrew] She could have short braids.

560
00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:09,120
She could be wearing wigs.

561
00:38:09,620 --> 00:38:11,998
The one thing that's common on her,
though,

562
00:38:12,081 --> 00:38:16,210
is she has a huge rose tattoo
on her left shoulder

563
00:38:16,294 --> 00:38:20,131
that basically goes from the elbow
all the way up over the shoulder.

564
00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:22,508
That rose bouquet is gonna stand out.

565
00:38:22,591 --> 00:38:23,843
It's very distinctive,

566
00:38:23,926 --> 00:38:28,806
and it'd be pretty difficult to miss,
cover up, or remove.

567
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:32,643
But on top of that,
let's just say hypothetically,

568
00:38:32,727 --> 00:38:34,186
she got it covered.

569
00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:36,939
That means there's a tattoo artist
out there somewhere

570
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,358
that covered that bunch of roses.

571
00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:46,782
If Tammy was working a job right now…
She was a travel agent.

572
00:38:46,866 --> 00:38:48,826
She could have booked your trip
to wherever.

573
00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:51,412
She could be working at a hospital.

574
00:38:51,495 --> 00:38:53,706
She could have taken your blood yesterday.

575
00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:56,334
Let's be honest.
She's not afraid of blood.

576
00:38:58,085 --> 00:39:02,923
It's been a while since
I've spoke to any members of her family,

577
00:39:03,549 --> 00:39:07,428
but every time I have, it's,
"No idea. Haven't heard from her."

578
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:08,929
"Haven't talked to her."

579
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:10,931
And I personally don't believe that.

580
00:39:11,557 --> 00:39:15,227
Somebody is helping her financially

581
00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:19,899
and also providing her with a roof,
a place to stay.

582
00:39:20,858 --> 00:39:22,485
She just did not disappear.

583
00:39:23,486 --> 00:39:26,906
Throughout my interviews
with many different people,

584
00:39:26,989 --> 00:39:27,990
they've all said,

585
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:31,952
"She's always been one of those girls
that needs to have a guy in her life."

586
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:34,663
And that scares me

587
00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:40,336
that this woman is still free
after committing this crime,

588
00:39:40,419 --> 00:39:42,713
and she could hurt somebody else.

589
00:39:45,299 --> 00:39:47,510
[DJ] I've thought about that
plenty of times,

590
00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:50,304
of going to my dad's bedroom
that Sunday night.

591
00:39:52,098 --> 00:39:53,557
Maybe I should've went in there,

592
00:39:53,641 --> 00:39:58,854
but maybe it was probably a good decision
to not go in there, because…

593
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,817
I don't know, something in me
was just saying, "Don't go in there."

594
00:40:05,611 --> 00:40:09,698
Something probably could've happened to me
if I had went in my dad's room.

595
00:40:14,036 --> 00:40:17,081
[reporter 1] The hunt is on
as the US Marshals put all hands on deck

596
00:40:17,164 --> 00:40:19,166
in this worldwide fugitive hunt.

597
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:22,586
[reporter 2] Tammy could be
in a new relationship at this point.

598
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,464
[man] Maybe she's dating another guy.
You know, he could be at risk.

599
00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:27,466
[reporter 3] Family members
of the young father

600
00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:30,719
are still praying Tamera will be found
to face charges.

601
00:40:31,554 --> 00:40:33,556
[suspenseful music playing]

602
00:40:41,730 --> 00:40:44,733
-[projector whirring]
-[somber music playing]

603
00:40:48,154 --> 00:40:50,448
[Elton] At my son David's funeral,

604
00:40:50,990 --> 00:40:53,617
many people spoke about him.

605
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:56,412
It was really touching.

606
00:40:58,205 --> 00:41:00,124
[David on video]
Life stay's full of happiness,

607
00:41:00,207 --> 00:41:01,959
and sometimes life is full of shit.

608
00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:03,878
[Elton on video] Yes, it is. Uh-huh.

609
00:41:04,378 --> 00:41:07,756
[Elton] And everybody was talking
about David, and how they knew him,

610
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,178
and giving my wife Marie and I

611
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:15,598
their condolences, and hugging us.

612
00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:22,313
[voice breaking] Marie, she… Oh, wow.

613
00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:25,399
…quite naturally
cried through the whole thing.

614
00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,193
And I felt helpless…

615
00:41:29,111 --> 00:41:30,738
trying to console her.

616
00:41:32,448 --> 00:41:35,034
[Tasia] I always say,
"Tammy didn't just kill my brother."

617
00:41:35,117 --> 00:41:36,452
She killed my mother too,

618
00:41:36,535 --> 00:41:39,997
because our mother
was diagnosed with cancer

619
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,083
six days prior to Tammy murdering David.

620
00:41:44,293 --> 00:41:47,963
She was so heartbroken
after he was murdered,

621
00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:51,842
so she stopped going
to her cancer treatment,

622
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,802
and my mom passed away.

623
00:41:56,597 --> 00:41:58,724
[somber music continues]

624
00:41:58,807 --> 00:42:00,184
[Samia] There is not a day

625
00:42:01,602 --> 00:42:04,230
that goes by that I do not think of David.

626
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:07,191
I look at DJ.

627
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:12,279
I start thinking about all the things
that he's accomplished,

628
00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:15,449
all the things that he's doing, and I say,

629
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,869
"Man, if his dad was here,
he'd be so proud."

630
00:42:19,745 --> 00:42:21,163
[DJ] As of right now,

631
00:42:21,247 --> 00:42:24,917
I'm at Eastern Michigan University
playing football,

632
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,294
and I'm majoring in business management.

633
00:42:27,962 --> 00:42:30,881
I've taken over
my dad's clothing business.

634
00:42:33,634 --> 00:42:35,094
I'm doing okay…

635
00:42:36,762 --> 00:42:40,766
but there are thoughts that get to my head

636
00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:43,561
that almost make me
want to break down sometimes.

637
00:42:43,644 --> 00:42:44,770
Like, "Wow."

638
00:42:45,604 --> 00:42:47,439
"I don't have a father no more."

639
00:42:51,443 --> 00:42:53,862
If I had a few minutes
with my dad right now,

640
00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,408
I would ask him,
"Is he proud of me of where I'm at?"

641
00:42:57,908 --> 00:43:01,620
And I'd tell him that I love him for sure,
and I miss him.

642
00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:09,044
[Tasia] When David left us,
it was like a black hole.

643
00:43:09,128 --> 00:43:12,214
Like nothing or no one
has been able to fill it.

644
00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:17,428
You never know how much light
somebody brings into a room

645
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:19,179
until it's no longer there.

646
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,140
So it's been dark.

647
00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:24,101
[people singing on video]
♪ How old are you… ♪

648
00:43:25,269 --> 00:43:29,273
[Tasia] I miss the jokes and the laughs.

649
00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:32,776
[voice breaking] I miss our talks,
our fights.

650
00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:36,655
I just miss him.
I miss everything about him.

651
00:43:37,156 --> 00:43:39,158
[sinister music playing]

652
00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:44,872
I have faith that somehow, some way,
somebody's gonna see Tammy,

653
00:43:44,955 --> 00:43:46,540
and she's gonna be caught.

654
00:43:48,083 --> 00:43:50,294
It's not gonna bring David back,

655
00:43:50,878 --> 00:43:54,256
but it will at least allow us to

656
00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:56,675
let him rest in peace.

657
00:44:08,395 --> 00:44:10,397
[dramatic music playing]

658
00:44:11,315 --> 00:44:14,777
I'm Buffalo Jim.
It's another Friday night, brother.

659
00:44:14,860 --> 00:44:16,987
[man 1] Somebody
decided to get rid of Buffalo.

660
00:44:17,071 --> 00:44:20,240
[woman 1] This is the room
my father was found dead in.

661
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:23,452
[man 1] They got him
into a vulnerable situation.

662
00:44:24,286 --> 00:44:25,663
We thought it was a setup.

663
00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:28,707
You never know what's gonna happen.

664
00:44:30,084 --> 00:44:31,794
[man 2] Do you believe in Bigfoot?

665
00:44:31,877 --> 00:44:34,505
Do you believe in UFOs?

666
00:44:34,588 --> 00:44:37,299
I was like, "Wow!"

667
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:39,259
[man 3] Hey, Josh.

668
00:44:39,343 --> 00:44:41,553
[woman 2] For them to say,
"Josh just got up,

669
00:44:41,637 --> 00:44:44,098
and said he was going to the bathroom,
and never came back."

670
00:44:44,181 --> 00:44:45,557
It doesn't make any sense to me.

671
00:44:45,641 --> 00:44:47,476
There's more to it
than what they're saying.

672
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:50,938
[woman 3] I think Josh had secrets
just like everybody else has secrets.

673
00:44:51,021 --> 00:44:54,400
I wish that whoever knew those secrets
would come forward.

674
00:44:54,483 --> 00:44:56,485
[dramatic music playing]

675
00:44:59,113 --> 00:45:01,115
[mysterious music playing]