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She had never said anything about leaving.
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It just... didn't make sense.
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There wasn't a struggle.
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Nothing was moved inside the salon.
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It's like she just
walked out the front door,
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kept walking.
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I was in tenth grade,
when, uh, all of this transpired.
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The last morning with my mother,
we got up, and, uh...
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the way she would wake me up is,
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she would turn on the treadmill
and start running.
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And I would hear it. It'd...
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You know, feet hitting the treadmill.
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We argued a little bit that morning.
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I was in a hurry to, uh, get to school
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because I, uh...
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I was dating a girl at school and, uh...
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if I could get there a little early,
I'd get to talk to her
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before we got to, you know, go to class.
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She dropped me off at school.
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Told me she loved me and that, uh,
she'd see me in the afternoon.
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I told her, "Okay, I love you too."
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And, um...
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that was it,
that's the last time I talked to her.
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Later on,
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I was sitting in a, um, biology class,
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and a school resource officer came in.
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And he said, "Look, come with me."
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And, uh, he took me to the office.
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And he asked me
if I'd spoken to my mother.
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I said, "No."
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Asked me if, uh, I had any way
to get in touch with her.
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Any time I called,
if she didn't answer right away,
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-she would immediately call me back.
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I called three times and got no answer.
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My mother was extremely involved
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in every facet of my life.
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Was at every meet, every game.
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I've never met anybody that...
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always wanted the other person around them
to be happy.
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Always.
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I remember from a young age,
my mother had a passion to cut hair,
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to make people look beautiful.
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She loved it.
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When I was 15, what'd drive me crazy is,
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"Do your hair this way." Or, you know,
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"I'm gonna try something new
on your hair this week."
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So... about every other week,
I would have a different color hair,
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or a different haircut,
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or a Mohawk, or you know,
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just something crazy.
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She worked really, really hard
in other people's salons
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when I was younger,
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and finally got to the point
to where she could do it herself.
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Throughout the years,
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she'd built a business
that had people coming back constantly.
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Patrice was always so much fun.
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She just was always smiling,
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always positive.
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She made you feel special.
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That shop was definitely her dream.
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She was really proud of that place.
She really was.
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And her husband, Rob, was the one
that helped her get that started.
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Patrice was 30 years old
when I first met her.
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I was 50, 20 years her senior.
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I was the luckiest man on this planet.
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She was renting a chair
at a two-station beauty salon.
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And I was driving by and needed a haircut,
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and stopped in.
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And...
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that's the beginning of the story.
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I said, "She's gonna be my wife."
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Seven years with Patrice,
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they were the best years of my life.
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I just remember the highlights,
and the beauty,
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and the warmth, and the love.
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The community loved Patrice.
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Some of the people,
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after their color, or cut,
or whatever they had-- had done,
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would just stay there for hours
and just chat with her.
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She'd just come up to you,
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and throw her arms around you,
and be, you know--
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I mean, she was just always like that.
She just loved everybody,
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you know, and everybody loved her.
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I met Patrice many, many years ago
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as a walk-in to her shop.
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And we hit it off, and...
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over the years,
we just became very close friends.
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Her shop was so close to my home,
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it was basically like our little hangout.
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I always went by there every afternoon.
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It was on my way home from work.
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And I was there
the night before she went missing.
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As I was leaving that evening,
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she said, "Woman--"
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She always called me woman.
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"Woman, are you coming back tomorrow?"
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And I remember looking over my shoulder
and saying,
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"Of course, you know I'm gonna be here."
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I would usually call her
on her cell phone.
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And that particular day,
it went straight to voicemail.
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That was odd.
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And by the time I got to the shop,
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police were there,
and my heart just stopped.
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We received a 911 call
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that said a client had showed up
at Patrice's hair salon,
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and she was missing.
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As soon as I got there,
we kind of all looked at each other,
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and I just-- I remember the eye--
the look in each other's eyes, like,
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this doesn't look good.
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When the Forsyth County
investigators came to Patricia's shop,
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the cash register was open.
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Money was missing from the cash register.
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Her purse was found,
inside, on the counter.
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It appeared that, uh,
she was warming up her lunch.
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It was found there on the counter,
by the microwave.
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The rest of her shop was unremarkable.
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It was Patrice's normal,
clean, tidy, well-kept shop.
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You would never walk in there and say,
"Okay, this is a crime scene."
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We found no blood.
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We found no overturned furniture.
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We found no... drag marks.
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There wasn't a lot of evidence.
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There wasn't a lot of things
to point you in one direction or another.
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When the, uh, police took me
to my mother's hair salon,
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there was, uh, detectives,
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and, you know,
crime scene investigators, and...
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they were going in and out.
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And then they said, "Yeah, she's missing."
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Immediately, I broke down,
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because it was like, "What do you mean?"
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You know?
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"I don't understand.
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No, there's no way.
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She...
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She'll be back, you know.
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I don't know what's wrong
with her cell phone.
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Don't know why she left it,
but she'll be back.
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She's just gone somewhere
for a little while."
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The day that Patrice went missing,
I was at work.
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It was probably
around 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon.
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In a situation like that,
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you don't try to think the worst.
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And the-- And the--
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Even the remote concept
that she had been murdered
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was just not something
I was thinking about.
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When I got to Patrice's salon,
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they started talking to me and said...
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"And we'll see you
at the Forsyth County Sheriff's Department
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to interview you."
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Okay.
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I didn't get the bracelets.
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I didn't feel like a suspect.
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But, yeah, I get it.
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I have a degree in criminology.
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I'm Patrice's husband,
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and a lot of times, husbands are guilty
of killing their wives.
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So, you-- you know, you get to do this.
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We didn't want to come out
and say we had a kidnapping
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'cause we didn't know
if you had a kidnapping or not.
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There was nothing that--
that indicated a crime had occurred
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outside of the location.
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The only thing that was out of place
was her motor vehicle.
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The vehicle was facing westward direction.
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What was strange about that was,
all of her customers and her neighbors
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and family and friends would explain to us
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that she always parked
on this side of the building.
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And she would always back in.
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So, closest to the side door,
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where she entered every day
to come into work.
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There was a lot of theories around why
the Chevy Tahoe had been moved.
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Did Patrice move it?
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Did somebody else just come up
and move it after the fact,
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before we were called?
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You know, somebody rolled up
and said, "Hi, I need a jump."
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Would that be an explanation
for the car being moved?
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Could very well be.
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We went up to Patrice's shop,
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and there was just a swarm of just...
everything going on.
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There's helicopters flying and--
Totally freaked out.
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There was just police everywhere.
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I mean, it's just like... a scene
out of a movie. It was just weird.
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When I got there and I, you know,
saw what was going on,
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-it just seemed so chaotic.
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We were all just crying.
We didn't really know, you know,
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"Where is she?
What's going on? Who's got her?"
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A thorough search was conducted.
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No Patrice.
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Of course, the hope was
that she would be found alive,
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and that nothing sinister
had really happened to her.
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That maybe her life was not as happy
as everyone had thought
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or she was not as stable
as everyone had thought
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and she had just run away from it all.
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They did ask me,
"Do you think Patrice would ever leave?"
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And flat-out I said, "No, there's no way
she would have ever left Pistol.
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There's just no way."
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She worshiped that child.
There was nothing she wouldn't do for him.
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She was never gonna leave him.
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Never.
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My mother would talk to me
about... anything.
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Didn't matter what it was.
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About two weeks prior, she had said to me,
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"If I was to ever go anywhere,
where would you go?"
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And... I said, "I don't know.
I mean, my dad's house, I guess."
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She didn't say she was gonna leave.
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But more of a scenario of...
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what if something happened?
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I didn't think anything of it,
you know, at the time,
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because that's as far as it went.
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Obviously, in these kind
of cases, it's a jigsaw puzzle.
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And it takes time to--
to put the jigsaw puzzle together.
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Early on, we had to build the timeline
for what happened to Patrice.
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Patrice had customers in her shop
the entire morning.
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We were able to ascertain
from her appointment book
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who was in the shop.
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First client, Pam Sheppard,
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arrives at the shop
for a nine o'clock appointment.
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Patrice is there.
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Pam tells us
that Patrice seems distracted,
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was not very attentive to her.
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About 11:05, Pam Sheppard leaves the shop.
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At 11:10, Paul Cantor arrives at the shop
for his haircut.
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He left the shop at 11:27 a.m.
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And he got a phone call
as he was leaving the shop.
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And we were able to verify that
by his cell phone records.
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At 11:35, a customer calls
to change an appointment.
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That customer reports that Patrice
was somewhat short on the phone.
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That was unusual for Patrice.
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That call lasts about two minutes.
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Based on phone records...
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-the next phone call comes at 11:50.
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Patrice doesn't answer the phone.
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So, you can draw the conclusion
that something's not right here.
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It's critical that we understand
what happened in that 13 minutes
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between 11:37 and 11:50.
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Outside of her shop, around 11:45,
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you have two different witnesses,
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independent of each other,
which is critical.
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They see another car.
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As I came over the hill,
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I noticed first her SUV,
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which was normally parked on the side
which was now visible,
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and a Chevy Lumina,
which was pulled directly into the shop.
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The Chevy Lumina was in here,
the hood right here.
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The salon door was open.
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I did notice the Chevy Lumina did have
the Georgia Quail Wildlife tag.
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There was a second witness
driving by Patrice's shop
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around the exact same time frame.
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He believes it's a, uh, Ford Taurus,
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possibly a Malibu.
250
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There were two ladies that I saw
in front of the Lumina.
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A taller, dark-headed lady.
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She was more, like,
in the middle of the car.
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And then, on the passenger side
in the front of the car was an older lady.
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The second witness,
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he believes he sees a male
standing in front.
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But he does describe shoulder-length hair.
257
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They had hands on each other.
258
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I don't know if one had tripped,
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if one was pushing one down,
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if one was helping one up.
261
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It just did not look normal.
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These witnesses are credible
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00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:16,141
because they essentially
saw the same thing.
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00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:18,102
And they're totally independent
of each other.
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00:16:18,185 --> 00:16:20,729
One of the detectives looked at me
and said...
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"You do realize
that you very well could've been
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one of the last people to see her alive."
268
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And...
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it broke me.
270
00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:31,365
I-- I started crying right there.
271
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How do you process that?
272
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Why didn't I stop?
273
00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:39,623
If I could've been the last one,
274
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,625
why couldn't I have done something?
275
00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,585
Why didn't I do something?
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I've struggled.
277
00:16:47,214 --> 00:16:49,717
I've cried myself to sleep
thinking about this.
278
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,389
The Lumina to me, holds a key.
279
00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:08,277
A lot of people told me
that it would be okay,
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that she would turn up,
281
00:17:09,528 --> 00:17:12,781
and she would never leave me at any cost.
282
00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:22,166
I didn't know what to do.
283
00:17:24,543 --> 00:17:26,420
I walked through the woods for hours...
284
00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:28,964
calling her name.
285
00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,262
I'd never been without my mother.
286
00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:45,355
I was a couple months away from turning 16
when she went missing,
287
00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:49,568
and it made me grow up extremely fast
after the fact.
288
00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:06,585
Went through
some hard times after she was gone.
289
00:18:07,419 --> 00:18:09,880
You take a lot of things for granted
in your life,
290
00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:13,092
until, uh, they're all stripped away.
291
00:18:32,027 --> 00:18:34,404
Yeah, this was the, uh,
the last home that...
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00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:36,865
my mother and I lived in.
293
00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,292
The last time I slept here was...
294
00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:49,711
the night before she went missing.
295
00:18:55,676 --> 00:18:58,262
This is a... a bittersweet memory for me.
296
00:18:59,346 --> 00:19:03,267
I dealt with a lot of, uh, deep issues
in this home.
297
00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:05,769
But I have a lot of good memories here,
too.
298
00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:09,606
I remember the last Christmas
I spent with my mother here.
299
00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:14,111
She always made Christmas kind of a, uh,
her-and-I type situation.
300
00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:16,446
She made sure I got everything I wanted.
301
00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:20,701
But... also remember
having memories here where...
302
00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:25,122
I would stay in my room just so
I wouldn't have to deal with, uh, Rob.
303
00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:33,463
I was... eight or nine when, uh,
when they got married.
304
00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,259
Patrice was so happy.
305
00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:38,886
She was just radiant and smiling
306
00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:41,847
like you're supposed to be
on the day that you get married.
307
00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:45,017
She thought Rob was the guy
that she was supposed to be with.
308
00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:51,273
When I walked her down the aisle,
I cried like a baby.
309
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,567
I can still remember it.
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00:19:54,526 --> 00:19:55,360
And...
311
00:19:56,653 --> 00:19:57,905
I gave her over to Rob...
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00:19:57,988 --> 00:20:01,366
...and I said,
"Just take care of my daughter, will you?"
313
00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:02,701
And he said, "I will."
314
00:20:04,828 --> 00:20:07,414
In the first year,
Rob was, uh, really nice.
315
00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,042
You know, he tried to be a stepfather,
316
00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:14,004
tried to include himself
in things I was doing,
317
00:20:14,087 --> 00:20:18,383
like going to take me to football practice
or whatever the case may be.
318
00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:19,843
And then, uh...
319
00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:21,261
it flipped.
320
00:20:23,597 --> 00:20:26,141
He turned into
a completely different person
321
00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:29,019
and acted extremely different towards me.
322
00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:32,522
He just tried to make me feel
that I wasn't good enough.
323
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:37,611
He'd walk past my room
and just say really crude stuff.
324
00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:41,406
Many of my friends that would come over
would see it,
325
00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:44,701
and would hear the, uh, snide comments
that he would make.
326
00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:48,830
I went through years of it.
327
00:20:50,165 --> 00:20:54,086
When I met Rob,
he was always overly protective,
328
00:20:54,419 --> 00:20:56,838
always hovering whenever he was around...
329
00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:58,382
um...
330
00:20:59,091 --> 00:20:59,967
jealous...
331
00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:04,554
of even her friends' relationships
with Patrice.
332
00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:07,891
She wasn't happy.
333
00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:09,851
They fought a lot.
334
00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:12,729
Rob wanted her all to himself.
335
00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:19,736
He didn't understand
why she would give me so much attention
336
00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,281
and thought that...
337
00:21:24,074 --> 00:21:26,576
he wasn't getting attention
because I was getting it.
338
00:21:30,455 --> 00:21:32,207
I would watch them fight sometimes.
339
00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:34,001
If it was ever about me,
340
00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:35,961
she wouldn't back down.
341
00:21:41,508 --> 00:21:44,553
Patrice and I didn't argue.
We never argued.
342
00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:46,305
There's no point in arguing.
343
00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:50,600
All that does is drive divisions in a--
in a relationship.
344
00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:58,358
I think Pistol was enormously...
345
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,528
jealous, for the lack of a different term,
346
00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:06,199
about the closeness
of Patrice's and my relationship.
347
00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,663
One of the things
that we struggled with is...
348
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:13,665
she didn't discipline him.
349
00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:16,543
And he just ran crazy.
350
00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:23,342
I just didn't see any future in him
when I was with him,
351
00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:24,551
to tell you the truth.
352
00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:32,559
She had spoke about divorce
353
00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:36,772
a couple weeks prior to...
all of this happening
354
00:22:37,439 --> 00:22:40,776
because she was unhappy with, uh,
the relationship
355
00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:43,445
and had been for quite a few years
up to that point.
356
00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:48,158
Patrice planning... to divorce me
is new information.
357
00:22:49,409 --> 00:22:51,912
We-- She never made that comment to me.
358
00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,415
Sometimes, there were issues.
359
00:22:56,833 --> 00:23:00,420
But I don't remember the issues.
I care not to remember the issues.
360
00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:05,258
And, um, yeah, I'd expected
to live with her... forever.
361
00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:08,887
We had a whole entire life ahead of us.
362
00:23:15,143 --> 00:23:16,937
The day after my mom went missing,
363
00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:19,064
Rob changed all the locks
on the doors on the house,
364
00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:20,774
wouldn't let me in to get any clothes...
365
00:23:21,274 --> 00:23:22,275
at all.
366
00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:29,533
After Patrice went missing,
just as a precautionary measure,
367
00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:31,910
I believe I changed
all the locks in the house.
368
00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:35,997
I would bang on the doors,
knock on the windows...
369
00:23:36,665 --> 00:23:39,000
but... no one would come.
370
00:23:39,459 --> 00:23:40,919
It made me feel really angry,
371
00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:43,088
and upset at the same time.
372
00:23:44,548 --> 00:23:46,049
It's still hard for me to believe.
373
00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:51,805
I didn't want Pistol in the house
because...
374
00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:54,015
the... you know...
375
00:23:54,558 --> 00:23:55,517
I didn't like him.
376
00:23:56,643 --> 00:23:58,979
And just to be on the safe side,
377
00:23:59,062 --> 00:24:00,856
just go stay somewhere else.
378
00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,441
And then we know you'll be safe.
379
00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:07,154
And I'll know I'm not gonna have
this constant mental drag on me
380
00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:09,489
that you're here
and I have to put up with your stuff.
381
00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:22,878
After my mom had been missing,
I went to live with my father.
382
00:24:23,378 --> 00:24:25,172
He's, uh, got a small farm,
383
00:24:25,338 --> 00:24:26,631
raises a lot of chickens.
384
00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:29,426
It was rocky during that time.
385
00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,180
My father, uh, had gone into depression,
386
00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:35,474
because my mother
was still his best friend.
387
00:24:38,852 --> 00:24:40,520
Throw it right there, scatter it.
388
00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,731
And.. he was hers.
389
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,566
They, uh-- They spoke every day.
390
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,110
And it wasn't anything farther than that,
391
00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:49,613
but they knew
they could always depend on each other,
392
00:24:49,696 --> 00:24:51,698
and, um... they both loved me.
393
00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,534
And... that's...
394
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,037
They made sure that, um...
395
00:24:57,829 --> 00:25:00,499
I'd always have a mother and a father
that supported me,
396
00:25:00,582 --> 00:25:01,791
even if they weren't together.
397
00:25:05,545 --> 00:25:06,671
A game chicken.
398
00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:08,715
We got you.
399
00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:18,725
I started getting more anxious
as time went on.
400
00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:24,064
And I woke up every morning thinking,
"Okay, today's gonna be the day.
401
00:25:24,481 --> 00:25:27,275
She's gonna pop up
and everything's gonna be fine."
402
00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:28,902
She's gonna say, you know,
403
00:25:28,985 --> 00:25:32,239
"Look, I had to do this
to get a life made for us
404
00:25:32,322 --> 00:25:33,949
so I could get away from Rob,
405
00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:36,785
and we wouldn't have to endure
any more of that."
406
00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:39,913
Every fucking morning.
407
00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:41,456
Every morning.
408
00:25:44,251 --> 00:25:45,126
Never came.
409
00:26:03,186 --> 00:26:07,315
Every night, I'd sit on the couch
and I'd look out at the window,
410
00:26:08,024 --> 00:26:09,025
saying that, uh...
411
00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:11,861
hope-- hopefully that I'd see her.
412
00:26:17,325 --> 00:26:20,412
Over time, you realize, you know,
413
00:26:20,787 --> 00:26:23,123
nobody's seen her,
nobody's hearing from her.
414
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,088
It's real hard.
415
00:26:34,509 --> 00:26:36,386
'Cause not only is she your friend...
416
00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:38,930
Excuse me.
417
00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:43,560
...but you don't really know
what happened to her.
418
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,151
I didn't give up. I never gave up.
419
00:26:51,234 --> 00:26:53,236
I kept thinking in the back of my mind,
420
00:26:53,403 --> 00:26:55,989
"She'll, uh, pick up the phone one day
and she'll call me."
421
00:26:56,072 --> 00:26:59,909
Or, "She'll send me a letter
with no return address." Or...
422
00:27:00,118 --> 00:27:02,245
Yeah, you think all those things.
Of course you do.
423
00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:05,248
When you love and care about somebody,
you never wanna give up.
424
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,886
I think we interviewed
everybody that knows Patrice.
425
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,805
Financial records, phone records,
426
00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,059
every can that can be kicked over
or touched was.
427
00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:27,395
And we have looked, uh, strongly
at a laundry list of suspects.
428
00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,107
Once you've taken someone,
429
00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:33,151
you're either gonna kill them,
430
00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,028
or you're gonna get caught.
431
00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:37,489
It's as simple as that.
432
00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:40,200
Gary Hilton attracted our attention
433
00:27:40,283 --> 00:27:42,202
after the murder of Meredith Emerson.
434
00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:43,411
And, as an artist...
435
00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:46,414
uh, and as a sociopath,
436
00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,668
if you're doing this,
you would like to select your victims
437
00:27:50,418 --> 00:27:52,087
on an artistic sense.
438
00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:54,464
He abducted this young girl and her dog,
439
00:27:54,631 --> 00:27:57,008
uh, took her into neighboring
Dawson County,
440
00:27:57,092 --> 00:28:00,345
kept her alive for-- for a number days,
and brutally murdered her.
441
00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:01,596
Brutally.
442
00:28:02,972 --> 00:28:04,766
Gary Hilton is a person that,
443
00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:07,477
uh, we know has been in Forsyth County.
444
00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:10,689
He had actually been stopped
by one of our deputies
445
00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:12,273
on a traffic stop, here in Forsyth County.
446
00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,653
We learned that Gary would call people
447
00:28:16,736 --> 00:28:18,780
and essentially con them out of money.
448
00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:21,491
But he would also do that in person.
449
00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:23,660
And he made the statement one day
450
00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:27,706
that his favorite place to go
was a hair salon.
451
00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,794
He would go in and he would ask for money.
452
00:28:34,003 --> 00:28:35,964
Favorite time was lunchtime.
453
00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:44,180
Gary Hilton doesn't need a motive.
454
00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:47,350
Gary Hilton... hunts for people.
455
00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:48,935
He hunts for opportunities.
456
00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:51,730
We've not been able to alibi him.
457
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,482
We've not been able to prove
that he is not involved.
458
00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,818
But we've not been able to prove
that he was involved.
459
00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:58,653
He's certainly a potential suspect.
460
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,196
Is he the only potential? No.
461
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240
Are there others? I'm sure there are.
462
00:29:04,325 --> 00:29:06,578
What you're seeing right here
in front of you is a nice guy
463
00:29:06,661 --> 00:29:09,873
that would help an old lady
carry her groceries to her car.
464
00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:14,085
Jeremy Jones was arrested in--
in Mobile, Alabama,
465
00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:16,129
for the murder of a female there.
466
00:29:16,796 --> 00:29:18,965
That's why people say
I don't fit the profile of both.
467
00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:23,011
Jeremy Jones was an easy person
to talk to.
468
00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:25,847
He, like most people, liked to hunt, fish.
469
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,474
You know, he'd talk sports.
470
00:29:27,557 --> 00:29:29,601
But he had a demon inside that--
471
00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:31,644
You know,
he liked to sexually abuse women.
472
00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:36,149
And he confessed to, uh, probably,
six to eight murders of women.
473
00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:38,777
By definition, he is a serial killer.
474
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:41,279
She said she had a family
that loved her very much.
475
00:29:41,488 --> 00:29:43,698
She started crying,
which started to make me cry.
476
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:47,327
Uh, I got her back there to the warehouse.
477
00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:49,537
And I forced myself on her.
478
00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:54,876
When Jeremy Jones started
to confess to these different murders,
479
00:29:55,418 --> 00:30:00,715
he talked about how he needed to tell us
about a hairdresser in Georgia.
480
00:30:01,174 --> 00:30:03,676
The first time you met Patrice
was at her shop?
481
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,594
Yes.
482
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,596
Did you ever talk to Patrice?
483
00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:07,555
Yes.
484
00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:11,142
When I'm high on dope,
I ain't got no integrity.
485
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,355
Yeah, I could become the evilest,
most cruelest...
486
00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:18,483
individual person, like Heckle and Jeckle.
487
00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,990
Jones said he was passing by
488
00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:28,993
and decided to approach the--
the beauty shop.
489
00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,877
I went to the beauty shop,
asked her to come out and help me.
490
00:30:38,711 --> 00:30:39,838
Told her I might need a jump.
491
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,966
Forced her in the car.
492
00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:45,802
I had a knife.
493
00:30:47,887 --> 00:30:49,639
And I told her
that I'd kill her if she tried--
494
00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:51,307
She was crying...
495
00:30:53,101 --> 00:30:56,271
Jones drew a diagram
of where her vehicle was parked,
496
00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:58,648
and where he parked his vehicle, and...
497
00:30:58,731 --> 00:31:01,359
it was an accurate depiction of--
of where it would be.
498
00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:04,946
So you went to this river and, uh...
did what?
499
00:31:09,117 --> 00:31:10,910
I threw her over the side of the bridge.
500
00:31:16,457 --> 00:31:18,418
Jeremy told the investigators
501
00:31:18,501 --> 00:31:21,254
that he threw her in Sweetwater Creek
in Douglas County.
502
00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:27,176
We made a pretty extensive search
503
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,096
from where he said
that he had done something.
504
00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:34,100
Cadaver dogs, boats,
search and rescue personnel
505
00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:35,935
who are very adept at that.
506
00:31:38,646 --> 00:31:40,982
We didn't find anything in that area.
507
00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:45,236
There have been times
508
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,323
that individuals would come
into law enforcement agencies
509
00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,533
and say they have killed someone, um,
510
00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:53,286
but as you start to look further,
then it is not true.
511
00:31:53,369 --> 00:31:56,623
And, ultimately,
Jeremy Jones recanted his confession.
512
00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:02,545
We found no evidence
513
00:32:02,629 --> 00:32:07,592
to link Jeremy Jones to the kidnapping
and murder of Patrice Endres.
514
00:32:08,384 --> 00:32:11,638
But that does not eliminate Jeremy Jones
as being a suspect.
515
00:32:15,224 --> 00:32:17,477
There was some things
he told us that, you know,
516
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,438
I thought was really... incredible
517
00:32:20,521 --> 00:32:23,358
and impossible for someone to know
that wasn't there.
518
00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:28,780
I believe he's a strong possibility
for Patrice's murder.
519
00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:02,105
This is the Lebanon Baptist Church,
built in '41.
520
00:33:02,188 --> 00:33:04,649
My mama and daddy
was two of the founders of it.
521
00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:10,321
We was building the Fellowship Hall
and trying to finish it up, and, uh...
522
00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,408
one of my friends come over
and bought me a biscuit,
523
00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:15,493
and wanted me to come around and eat it,
me and him.
524
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,412
We come out on the back steps and, uh...
525
00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:19,038
I was eating a biscuit,
526
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:21,332
and a bunch of buzzards were down there,
flying around,
527
00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,292
and I said, "When I get through eating,
528
00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:26,129
I'm gonna go down there
and see what they flying around about."
529
00:33:26,212 --> 00:33:28,172
And, uh, got down there,
530
00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:31,509
and my buddy said, "Uh, I found a deer."
531
00:33:33,219 --> 00:33:34,387
My buddy said,
532
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:36,764
"What's that right there behind you?"
533
00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:40,059
I said, "Where?"
and he said, "Right there, to your right."
534
00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:42,937
And, uh, I looked and I said,
"Looks like a skull."
535
00:33:52,321 --> 00:33:53,239
I was, um...
536
00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:55,533
I was in school.
537
00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:56,617
I, uh...
538
00:33:57,243 --> 00:33:58,244
Senior year.
539
00:33:58,911 --> 00:33:59,746
And, um...
540
00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,999
I got a call to go to the, uh,
principal's office.
541
00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:06,127
Which wasn't rare for me,
'cause, you know...
542
00:34:07,003 --> 00:34:08,629
I was, uh...
543
00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,965
...kind of a problem at that point.
544
00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:13,718
My father...
545
00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:15,053
he came in.
546
00:34:16,345 --> 00:34:17,430
He sat down.
547
00:34:17,513 --> 00:34:18,514
And I'm going...
548
00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:20,266
"What's going on?"
549
00:34:20,808 --> 00:34:22,185
And he said, "Look, they, uh...
550
00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:24,812
they found your mom today."
551
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:27,607
I'm going, "Okay cool. Where's she at?"
552
00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:29,150
And he was like, "No.
553
00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,277
They found her remains today."
554
00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:33,362
And, uh...
555
00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,242
it was very hard for me
to focus on anything
556
00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:41,788
for quite a while after that.
557
00:34:43,873 --> 00:34:45,291
Very hard day.
558
00:34:50,630 --> 00:34:51,798
It's still hard.
559
00:34:55,134 --> 00:34:56,511
She died too soon.
560
00:34:57,595 --> 00:34:59,847
Why? We don't know.
561
00:35:00,181 --> 00:35:02,558
I'd like to hear her call me and say,
562
00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:04,560
"Hey, Pap, how you doing?"
563
00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:06,312
But that don't happen no more.
564
00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:13,361
She's in heaven, enjoying life up there.
565
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:14,821
And one day...
566
00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:16,572
maybe I'll get to see her.
567
00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:29,001
We got the call
from the Dawson County Sheriff's Office
568
00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:33,673
that two volunteers at Lebanon
Baptist Church had found a, uh...
569
00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:36,384
a skull that they believed to be human.
570
00:35:55,027 --> 00:35:57,780
This is an area that's woods
for as far as you can walk.
571
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,577
When Patrice's body was found,
572
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,954
it was December 6th, 2005.
573
00:36:05,454 --> 00:36:07,373
Six hundred days,
she was-- she was missing.
574
00:36:07,456 --> 00:36:11,502
From April 15th, 2004
to December 6th, 2005
575
00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:13,004
is 600 days on the dot.
576
00:36:15,756 --> 00:36:18,885
We initially had a team here
within a matter of hours,
577
00:36:18,968 --> 00:36:22,471
searching to try to make sure
that we find every piece of evidence.
578
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,102
For this entire area here,
579
00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:29,854
all the way to the bottom of the ravine,
580
00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,939
I want it to look like this.
581
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,859
I want it to be cleared
where I can see the dirt.
582
00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:37,445
Where if there's something
embedded in the dirt...
583
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:40,281
some piece of evidence...
584
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,283
maybe a bone...
585
00:36:44,243 --> 00:36:46,287
then I can find it and I can collect it.
586
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:57,006
This particular area
where Lebanon Baptist Church is at,
587
00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:59,383
is-- is very rural, very-- very remote.
588
00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:06,349
It would be difficult over that terrain
to carry dead weight.
589
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,560
But you can't discount
that she wasn't walked in here.
590
00:37:12,855 --> 00:37:16,776
So we don't know that...
Patrice was carried in here, drug in here,
591
00:37:16,859 --> 00:37:18,819
or if she walked in here. We don't know.
592
00:37:22,657 --> 00:37:25,409
The investigators were here
for a day and a half.
593
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:28,746
Two hundred and six bones in the body,
594
00:37:29,538 --> 00:37:31,916
and we left here
with slightly less than that.
595
00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:44,929
It's disturbing that Patrice possibly
laid in the woods for 600 days.
596
00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:49,016
You feel like you didn't do your job.
You feel like you didn't do enough.
597
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,393
You feel like...
598
00:37:50,851 --> 00:37:53,062
you failed the family.
599
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:04,991
I have different theories,
600
00:38:05,074 --> 00:38:06,701
as far as what I think happened.
601
00:38:07,034 --> 00:38:07,952
But...
602
00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:10,997
I told the police that...
603
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,332
I think Rob had something to do
with my mother's murder.
604
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:16,502
I think that, uh...
605
00:38:17,837 --> 00:38:20,089
her trying to get a divorce from Rob...
606
00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:22,341
played a major part in this.
607
00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,802
I can only imagine how jealous he would be
608
00:38:24,885 --> 00:38:28,597
of her leaving him
and possibly going to someone else.
609
00:38:32,351 --> 00:38:34,562
I told the police
they needed to look at Rob.
610
00:38:34,937 --> 00:38:36,897
Because of what I knew
611
00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,900
about how she was not as happy with Rob
612
00:38:39,984 --> 00:38:41,736
as she had been in the past,
613
00:38:41,819 --> 00:38:43,696
I always thought Rob
had something to do with it.
614
00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:50,119
I have no comment for people
who think that I killed Patrice,
615
00:38:50,202 --> 00:38:51,829
because I don't talk to those people.
616
00:38:51,912 --> 00:38:53,998
Because I know I didn't.
617
00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:56,083
Patrice knows I didn't.
618
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:59,920
And it's physically impossible timewise
for me to have been involved in it.
619
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:01,505
Think what you like.
620
00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:08,929
The day Patrice went missing,
621
00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:10,473
I was at home.
622
00:39:10,556 --> 00:39:13,392
Before I went to work,
I got gas for my car.
623
00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:16,604
I had a receipt.
The receipt's time-stamped.
624
00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:22,234
Her shop is probably a 45-minute drive
625
00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:25,988
from where I was in Woodstock,
getting gas.
626
00:39:27,073 --> 00:39:30,743
They have when I went through
the turnstile at work,
627
00:39:30,826 --> 00:39:33,454
so they have... the clock sitting there.
628
00:39:33,788 --> 00:39:38,876
It's physically impossible
for me to go to Patrice's shop,
629
00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:40,961
and get back and get gas,
630
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,588
and get to work and all that stuff.
631
00:39:42,671 --> 00:39:43,923
It's not gonna happen.
632
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,846
How about motive? What was my motive?
633
00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:53,682
We didn't have life insurance on Patrice.
634
00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:54,892
She's 38.
635
00:39:57,019 --> 00:40:00,064
You know, I mean it's--
You know, nice try.
636
00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:07,446
Rob Endres was thoroughly investigated,
637
00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:09,532
and we created a timeline for him...
638
00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:15,204
that doesn't eliminate him from--
from being able to do this,
639
00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,499
but greatly reduces the chances
that he could've done this.
640
00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:21,585
It doesn't eliminate a murder-for-hire.
641
00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:24,630
But it just doesn't seem probable.
642
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:28,426
We've uncovered nothing
that suggests that at this point.
643
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:32,680
In my mind's eye,
644
00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:37,351
why I think somebody
who knew Patricia's routine was involved,
645
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:39,103
somebody that she knew,
646
00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:41,939
because the place wasn't disheveled,
wasn't beat up,
647
00:40:42,022 --> 00:40:43,649
nothing turned over, supposedly.
648
00:40:43,732 --> 00:40:45,734
Who's to say
it was one person to carry her?
649
00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:50,239
Was she kept, uh, captive for a while?
Was--
650
00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:54,577
You know, I hate to say this,
but was she somebody's... toy for a while?
651
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,288
Who knows when she was put out there,
or how?
652
00:40:57,371 --> 00:41:00,332
Did someone take a wheelbarrow
and haul her out there? I don't know.
653
00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:18,017
I don't work off theories.
654
00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:21,770
I work off... the evidence,
the information, the facts.
655
00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:26,066
The Patrice Endres mystery
appeared to have occurred
656
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:27,443
in a 13-minute window.
657
00:41:28,944 --> 00:41:33,699
From the time of the last phone call
Patrice made at 11:37,
658
00:41:33,782 --> 00:41:37,786
to 11:50 when the next phone call came in,
when Patrice didn't answer,
659
00:41:37,870 --> 00:41:41,665
I strongly believe
that Patrice was already in the process
660
00:41:41,749 --> 00:41:45,044
of... the event
that eventually led to her death.
661
00:41:48,547 --> 00:41:50,966
I wanna know what happened
in those 13 minutes.
662
00:41:51,842 --> 00:41:55,304
We know that money is missing
from Patrice's cash register.
663
00:41:55,804 --> 00:41:59,391
So, is a robbery the primary motive?
664
00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:00,893
I don't think so.
665
00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:05,856
Salons are generally not targeted
for an armed robbery.
666
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,026
There's generally not a lot of cash
on hand in a salon.
667
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:11,362
But the road itself is very busy.
668
00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,948
People constantly walked into her shop,
669
00:42:14,031 --> 00:42:15,199
asked for directions,
670
00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:17,326
asked questions about the area.
671
00:42:18,786 --> 00:42:20,996
It's possible
that just the wrong person walked in
672
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,666
and realized
that this is a prime opportunity.
673
00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:24,875
And then she was gone.
674
00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:28,712
The blue car is critical.
675
00:42:28,796 --> 00:42:33,300
That blue car is one thing
that we know happened at 11:45,
676
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,219
and that is in the middle
of that 13 minutes.
677
00:42:36,053 --> 00:42:40,099
Whether it be a 1992 Chevrolet Lumina
with a Georgia Wildlife tag,
678
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,852
or whether it's a '99 to '02 Ford Taurus,
679
00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:45,729
or a Chevrolet Malibu four-door.
680
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,399
If you know someone that has a blue car,
681
00:42:48,482 --> 00:42:50,442
that that day, something was different,
682
00:42:51,026 --> 00:42:52,861
got home a little bit late,
683
00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:56,240
and acted extremely unusual
684
00:42:56,323 --> 00:42:59,076
from any way
that this person has ever acted before...
685
00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:02,955
then that's a piece of the puzzle
we need to know.
686
00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:08,711
We also didn't find
Patrice's wedding ring.
687
00:43:08,794 --> 00:43:12,298
The 1.5 carat pear-shaped diamond
688
00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:14,675
with two other 14-carat gold rings
689
00:43:15,009 --> 00:43:16,594
we believe were attached.
690
00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,096
We would like to find that.
691
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:24,935
There's aspects of--
of the Patrice Endres investigation
692
00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:26,604
that we can't discuss,
693
00:43:26,687 --> 00:43:28,105
that we refuse to discuss,
694
00:43:28,814 --> 00:43:31,233
because we define it
as guilty knowledge information.
695
00:43:31,567 --> 00:43:34,778
Guilty knowledge information
is information that's only known...
696
00:43:35,738 --> 00:43:38,449
by the person responsible
for what happened to Patrice,
697
00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:41,243
and by us, the investigators themselves,
698
00:43:41,327 --> 00:43:43,495
that know every aspect of the case.
699
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:46,582
We can't afford
to have a false confession.
700
00:43:47,041 --> 00:43:50,294
We definitely want to give
some form of closure to the family.
701
00:44:04,308 --> 00:44:07,144
This is the location
where we had the table
702
00:44:07,227 --> 00:44:09,521
where Ms. Patrice's remains were.
703
00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:16,403
I asked the people
who took care of Patrice's remains,
704
00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:19,198
"What I'd like you to do
as a last farewell..."
705
00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:22,910
I don't know if that's how I termed it.
706
00:44:24,536 --> 00:44:26,330
"...is reassemble her.
707
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:28,874
Lay her out for me.
708
00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:30,959
I wanna see her."
709
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:45,933
The skeletal remains that we received,
710
00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:49,770
we placed as best we could
in a correct anatomical position.
711
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:52,940
And then, when we had that ready and set,
712
00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,485
I brought Mr. Rob into this room,
713
00:44:56,735 --> 00:44:59,279
where he had some time with Ms. Patrice.
714
00:45:00,030 --> 00:45:02,825
I picked up her skeleton, I mean her head,
715
00:45:03,158 --> 00:45:05,160
and carried it around for a while.
716
00:45:09,581 --> 00:45:11,458
Put her back, kissed her goodbye.
717
00:45:15,629 --> 00:45:18,257
I thanked Mr. Caldwell and I left.
718
00:45:18,340 --> 00:45:20,759
He asked me if I was okay to drive. I was.
719
00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:27,516
That's the last time I saw Patrice
anywhere near intact.
720
00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:30,602
Probably for a year or longer
721
00:45:30,686 --> 00:45:35,107
after Patrice was returned to me,
her ashes...
722
00:45:36,108 --> 00:45:38,110
she stayed in my bed. I slept with her.
723
00:45:38,527 --> 00:45:41,280
It's something
that I typically don't share with people.
724
00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:43,449
But she was like my teddy bear.
725
00:45:44,616 --> 00:45:46,201
'Cause that's how we used to...
726
00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:49,329
You know, that's how we used to sleep,
snuggled together.
727
00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:52,249
Just brought back good memories.
728
00:45:56,044 --> 00:45:58,505
And yes, I'm protective of Patrice.
729
00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:01,175
And I have her.
730
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:04,511
That's a good thing.
731
00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:10,434
Should be in here.
732
00:46:28,202 --> 00:46:29,286
Here's her ashes.
733
00:46:33,123 --> 00:46:35,167
You can see how beat up this box is.
734
00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:41,715
I kept it in the box.
I didn't take it out.
735
00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:02,319
There we go.
736
00:47:10,869 --> 00:47:12,120
And there's Patrice.
737
00:47:16,959 --> 00:47:20,546
This... small, one pound bag,
738
00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:23,674
are the cremains for Patrice.
739
00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:29,012
It's the first time I've seen this bag.
740
00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:31,974
It's somewhat emotional, actually.
741
00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:35,978
Sor-- Sorry.
742
00:47:39,481 --> 00:47:42,401
I'd never share these ashes with anybody.
743
00:47:43,485 --> 00:47:44,570
Particularly Pistol.
744
00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:03,589
It's been 15 years.
745
00:48:05,048 --> 00:48:08,760
At this point, I've, uh, been without her
as long as I had her.
746
00:48:11,388 --> 00:48:12,639
I don't have her remains.
747
00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:15,851
Uh, Rob's actually got 'em.
748
00:48:16,268 --> 00:48:18,520
And that... hurts me more every day.
749
00:48:22,816 --> 00:48:25,068
I, uh, couldn't do anything about it.
750
00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:27,905
Didn't get any pictures
or anything of hers.
751
00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:34,077
I didn't get to, uh,
grow up and leave home like...
752
00:48:35,037 --> 00:48:36,914
normal, and be able to come back,
753
00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:40,083
and know I had, you know,
someone always behind me...
754
00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:42,878
pushing me to be better.
755
00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:48,884
I just hope I can be
half the person she was.
756
00:49:09,071 --> 00:49:11,782
I think she still hears me.
757
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,453
There's times that I--
Sometimes I think she's still here...
758
00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:20,582
and she's still, you know,
right behind me.
759
00:49:26,171 --> 00:49:28,048
Been searching for that closure,
760
00:49:28,382 --> 00:49:30,384
and some justice for what happened to her.
761
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,056
That's all I'm looking for.
762
00:49:36,348 --> 00:49:37,391
She deserves it.