1 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:21,396 She had never said anything about leaving. 2 00:00:22,605 --> 00:00:24,566 It just... didn't make sense. 3 00:00:24,941 --> 00:00:26,151 There wasn't a struggle. 4 00:00:27,152 --> 00:00:28,903 Nothing was moved inside the salon. 5 00:00:31,448 --> 00:00:34,159 It's like she just walked out the front door, 6 00:00:34,242 --> 00:00:35,076 kept walking. 7 00:01:33,593 --> 00:01:36,721 I was in tenth grade, when, uh, all of this transpired. 8 00:01:40,141 --> 00:01:43,103 The last morning with my mother, we got up, and, uh... 9 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:45,563 the way she would wake me up is, 10 00:01:45,647 --> 00:01:47,982 she would turn on the treadmill and start running. 11 00:01:48,191 --> 00:01:50,276 And I would hear it. It'd... 12 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,237 You know, feet hitting the treadmill. 13 00:01:54,656 --> 00:01:56,533 We argued a little bit that morning. 14 00:01:56,616 --> 00:01:59,244 I was in a hurry to, uh, get to school 15 00:01:59,410 --> 00:02:00,703 because I, uh... 16 00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:03,039 I was dating a girl at school and, uh... 17 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:06,584 if I could get there a little early, I'd get to talk to her 18 00:02:06,668 --> 00:02:08,503 before we got to, you know, go to class. 19 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,299 She dropped me off at school. 20 00:02:16,469 --> 00:02:19,180 Told me she loved me and that, uh, she'd see me in the afternoon. 21 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:24,727 I told her, "Okay, I love you too." 22 00:02:25,019 --> 00:02:25,854 And, um... 23 00:02:27,063 --> 00:02:28,982 that was it, that's the last time I talked to her. 24 00:02:33,194 --> 00:02:34,237 Later on, 25 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,866 I was sitting in a, um, biology class, 26 00:02:38,575 --> 00:02:41,327 and a school resource officer came in. 27 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:44,247 And he said, "Look, come with me." 28 00:02:44,455 --> 00:02:46,082 And, uh, he took me to the office. 29 00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:50,086 And he asked me if I'd spoken to my mother. 30 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:54,549 I said, "No." 31 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:58,761 Asked me if, uh, I had any way to get in touch with her. 32 00:03:02,891 --> 00:03:05,268 Any time I called, if she didn't answer right away, 33 00:03:05,351 --> 00:03:07,729 -she would immediately call me back. 34 00:03:08,938 --> 00:03:11,065 I called three times and got no answer. 35 00:03:18,239 --> 00:03:20,074 My mother was extremely involved 36 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:22,452 in every facet of my life. 37 00:03:22,702 --> 00:03:24,954 Was at every meet, every game. 38 00:03:25,371 --> 00:03:26,956 I've never met anybody that... 39 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:31,961 always wanted the other person around them to be happy. 40 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:33,129 Always. 41 00:03:36,549 --> 00:03:40,386 I remember from a young age, my mother had a passion to cut hair, 42 00:03:40,470 --> 00:03:42,305 to make people look beautiful. 43 00:03:43,806 --> 00:03:44,933 She loved it. 44 00:03:46,935 --> 00:03:48,978 When I was 15, what'd drive me crazy is, 45 00:03:49,062 --> 00:03:51,231 "Do your hair this way." Or, you know, 46 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:53,441 "I'm gonna try something new on your hair this week." 47 00:03:53,524 --> 00:03:56,819 So... about every other week, I would have a different color hair, 48 00:03:56,903 --> 00:03:58,321 or a different haircut, 49 00:03:58,404 --> 00:04:01,032 or a Mohawk, or you know, 50 00:04:01,115 --> 00:04:02,200 just something crazy. 51 00:04:03,952 --> 00:04:06,371 She worked really, really hard in other people's salons 52 00:04:06,454 --> 00:04:07,288 when I was younger, 53 00:04:07,956 --> 00:04:11,042 and finally got to the point to where she could do it herself. 54 00:04:13,419 --> 00:04:14,379 Throughout the years, 55 00:04:14,462 --> 00:04:18,508 she'd built a business that had people coming back constantly. 56 00:04:21,010 --> 00:04:22,845 Patrice was always so much fun. 57 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:25,139 She just was always smiling, 58 00:04:25,306 --> 00:04:26,349 always positive. 59 00:04:28,393 --> 00:04:30,228 She made you feel special. 60 00:04:32,063 --> 00:04:34,107 That shop was definitely her dream. 61 00:04:34,691 --> 00:04:37,318 She was really proud of that place. She really was. 62 00:04:37,777 --> 00:04:41,197 And her husband, Rob, was the one that helped her get that started. 63 00:05:06,889 --> 00:05:09,726 Patrice was 30 years old when I first met her. 64 00:05:09,934 --> 00:05:12,186 I was 50, 20 years her senior. 65 00:05:15,231 --> 00:05:18,860 I was the luckiest man on this planet. 66 00:05:20,153 --> 00:05:25,742 She was renting a chair at a two-station beauty salon. 67 00:05:25,825 --> 00:05:27,785 And I was driving by and needed a haircut, 68 00:05:27,869 --> 00:05:29,370 and stopped in. 69 00:05:29,454 --> 00:05:30,288 And... 70 00:05:31,122 --> 00:05:32,707 that's the beginning of the story. 71 00:05:33,082 --> 00:05:35,168 I said, "She's gonna be my wife." 72 00:05:38,171 --> 00:05:40,256 Seven years with Patrice, 73 00:05:40,506 --> 00:05:42,342 they were the best years of my life. 74 00:05:43,051 --> 00:05:45,386 I just remember the highlights, and the beauty, 75 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:46,929 and the warmth, and the love. 76 00:05:51,225 --> 00:05:53,644 The community loved Patrice. 77 00:05:53,728 --> 00:05:55,480 Some of the people, 78 00:05:55,563 --> 00:06:00,485 after their color, or cut, or whatever they had-- had done, 79 00:06:00,818 --> 00:06:03,863 would just stay there for hours and just chat with her. 80 00:06:05,239 --> 00:06:06,240 She'd just come up to you, 81 00:06:06,324 --> 00:06:08,201 and throw her arms around you, and be, you know-- 82 00:06:08,284 --> 00:06:11,245 I mean, she was just always like that. She just loved everybody, 83 00:06:11,746 --> 00:06:13,539 you know, and everybody loved her. 84 00:06:15,666 --> 00:06:18,795 I met Patrice many, many years ago 85 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:20,463 as a walk-in to her shop. 86 00:06:20,922 --> 00:06:22,382 And we hit it off, and... 87 00:06:22,882 --> 00:06:25,843 over the years, we just became very close friends. 88 00:06:25,927 --> 00:06:27,720 Her shop was so close to my home, 89 00:06:27,804 --> 00:06:30,014 it was basically like our little hangout. 90 00:06:32,642 --> 00:06:34,435 I always went by there every afternoon. 91 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:36,604 It was on my way home from work. 92 00:06:36,687 --> 00:06:38,731 And I was there the night before she went missing. 93 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:44,112 As I was leaving that evening, 94 00:06:44,654 --> 00:06:46,239 she said, "Woman--" 95 00:06:46,322 --> 00:06:48,282 She always called me woman. 96 00:06:48,366 --> 00:06:49,909 "Woman, are you coming back tomorrow?" 97 00:06:49,992 --> 00:06:52,703 And I remember looking over my shoulder and saying, 98 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:54,956 "Of course, you know I'm gonna be here." 99 00:06:57,125 --> 00:06:59,836 I would usually call her on her cell phone. 100 00:06:59,961 --> 00:07:03,089 And that particular day, it went straight to voicemail. 101 00:07:05,049 --> 00:07:06,300 That was odd. 102 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:08,052 And by the time I got to the shop, 103 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:11,139 police were there, and my heart just stopped. 104 00:07:15,476 --> 00:07:16,894 We received a 911 call 105 00:07:16,978 --> 00:07:20,398 that said a client had showed up at Patrice's hair salon, 106 00:07:20,481 --> 00:07:21,524 and she was missing. 107 00:07:23,443 --> 00:07:25,736 As soon as I got there, we kind of all looked at each other, 108 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:29,532 and I just-- I remember the eye-- the look in each other's eyes, like, 109 00:07:29,949 --> 00:07:31,242 this doesn't look good. 110 00:07:34,203 --> 00:07:37,623 When the Forsyth County investigators came to Patricia's shop, 111 00:07:38,249 --> 00:07:40,168 the cash register was open. 112 00:07:40,376 --> 00:07:42,462 Money was missing from the cash register. 113 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,631 Her purse was found, inside, on the counter. 114 00:07:47,091 --> 00:07:49,844 It appeared that, uh, she was warming up her lunch. 115 00:07:49,927 --> 00:07:52,513 It was found there on the counter, by the microwave. 116 00:07:55,224 --> 00:07:57,768 The rest of her shop was unremarkable. 117 00:07:58,060 --> 00:08:01,939 It was Patrice's normal, clean, tidy, well-kept shop. 118 00:08:04,025 --> 00:08:06,903 You would never walk in there and say, "Okay, this is a crime scene." 119 00:08:08,863 --> 00:08:10,031 We found no blood. 120 00:08:10,114 --> 00:08:12,450 We found no overturned furniture. 121 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:15,119 We found no... drag marks. 122 00:08:15,745 --> 00:08:17,163 There wasn't a lot of evidence. 123 00:08:17,246 --> 00:08:20,708 There wasn't a lot of things to point you in one direction or another. 124 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:32,553 When the, uh, police took me to my mother's hair salon, 125 00:08:33,095 --> 00:08:34,430 there was, uh, detectives, 126 00:08:34,514 --> 00:08:36,933 and, you know, crime scene investigators, and... 127 00:08:37,016 --> 00:08:38,267 they were going in and out. 128 00:08:40,353 --> 00:08:42,605 And then they said, "Yeah, she's missing." 129 00:08:42,688 --> 00:08:44,190 Immediately, I broke down, 130 00:08:44,565 --> 00:08:46,651 because it was like, "What do you mean?" 131 00:08:47,068 --> 00:08:48,152 You know? 132 00:08:48,236 --> 00:08:49,320 "I don't understand. 133 00:08:51,489 --> 00:08:52,740 No, there's no way. 134 00:08:52,823 --> 00:08:53,658 She... 135 00:08:54,325 --> 00:08:55,826 She'll be back, you know. 136 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,787 I don't know what's wrong with her cell phone. 137 00:08:57,870 --> 00:08:59,497 Don't know why she left it, but she'll be back. 138 00:08:59,580 --> 00:09:01,332 She's just gone somewhere for a little while." 139 00:09:05,419 --> 00:09:08,130 The day that Patrice went missing, I was at work. 140 00:09:08,214 --> 00:09:12,051 It was probably around 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon. 141 00:09:14,637 --> 00:09:15,888 In a situation like that, 142 00:09:15,972 --> 00:09:18,099 you don't try to think the worst. 143 00:09:18,266 --> 00:09:19,725 And the-- And the-- 144 00:09:19,809 --> 00:09:22,853 Even the remote concept that she had been murdered 145 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:25,982 was just not something I was thinking about. 146 00:09:30,319 --> 00:09:32,154 When I got to Patrice's salon, 147 00:09:32,238 --> 00:09:34,865 they started talking to me and said... 148 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:39,537 "And we'll see you at the Forsyth County Sheriff's Department 149 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:41,831 to interview you." 150 00:09:42,164 --> 00:09:43,040 Okay. 151 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:45,710 I didn't get the bracelets. 152 00:09:46,752 --> 00:09:49,130 I didn't feel like a suspect. 153 00:09:49,338 --> 00:09:51,090 But, yeah, I get it. 154 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:53,342 I have a degree in criminology. 155 00:09:56,012 --> 00:09:57,680 I'm Patrice's husband, 156 00:09:58,139 --> 00:10:02,018 and a lot of times, husbands are guilty of killing their wives. 157 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:05,146 So, you-- you know, you get to do this. 158 00:10:16,824 --> 00:10:19,118 We didn't want to come out and say we had a kidnapping 159 00:10:19,201 --> 00:10:22,038 'cause we didn't know if you had a kidnapping or not. 160 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,921 There was nothing that-- that indicated a crime had occurred 161 00:10:31,213 --> 00:10:32,590 outside of the location. 162 00:10:32,673 --> 00:10:34,925 The only thing that was out of place was her motor vehicle. 163 00:10:37,178 --> 00:10:39,764 The vehicle was facing westward direction. 164 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:43,559 What was strange about that was, all of her customers and her neighbors 165 00:10:43,643 --> 00:10:45,478 and family and friends would explain to us 166 00:10:45,561 --> 00:10:48,105 that she always parked on this side of the building. 167 00:10:48,189 --> 00:10:49,732 And she would always back in. 168 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:51,984 So, closest to the side door, 169 00:10:52,068 --> 00:10:54,320 where she entered every day to come into work. 170 00:10:56,238 --> 00:10:59,325 There was a lot of theories around why the Chevy Tahoe had been moved. 171 00:11:01,202 --> 00:11:02,745 Did Patrice move it? 172 00:11:02,828 --> 00:11:06,123 Did somebody else just come up and move it after the fact, 173 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:07,583 before we were called? 174 00:11:08,626 --> 00:11:11,087 You know, somebody rolled up and said, "Hi, I need a jump." 175 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:13,464 Would that be an explanation for the car being moved? 176 00:11:14,131 --> 00:11:15,424 Could very well be. 177 00:11:18,302 --> 00:11:19,929 We went up to Patrice's shop, 178 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:24,183 and there was just a swarm of just... everything going on. 179 00:11:24,266 --> 00:11:26,894 There's helicopters flying and-- Totally freaked out. 180 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:28,688 There was just police everywhere. 181 00:11:28,771 --> 00:11:32,983 I mean, it's just like... a scene out of a movie. It was just weird. 182 00:11:37,238 --> 00:11:39,782 When I got there and I, you know, saw what was going on, 183 00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:42,368 -it just seemed so chaotic. 184 00:11:43,828 --> 00:11:46,122 We were all just crying. We didn't really know, you know, 185 00:11:46,205 --> 00:11:48,124 "Where is she? What's going on? Who's got her?" 186 00:11:51,752 --> 00:11:55,256 A thorough search was conducted. 187 00:11:56,424 --> 00:11:57,258 No Patrice. 188 00:12:00,636 --> 00:12:03,431 Of course, the hope was that she would be found alive, 189 00:12:03,514 --> 00:12:06,851 and that nothing sinister had really happened to her. 190 00:12:07,768 --> 00:12:12,606 That maybe her life was not as happy as everyone had thought 191 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:14,692 or she was not as stable as everyone had thought 192 00:12:14,775 --> 00:12:16,944 and she had just run away from it all. 193 00:12:19,071 --> 00:12:21,657 They did ask me, "Do you think Patrice would ever leave?" 194 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:25,411 And flat-out I said, "No, there's no way she would have ever left Pistol. 195 00:12:25,494 --> 00:12:26,829 There's just no way." 196 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:33,043 She worshiped that child. There was nothing she wouldn't do for him. 197 00:12:33,127 --> 00:12:34,545 She was never gonna leave him. 198 00:12:35,671 --> 00:12:36,505 Never. 199 00:12:40,509 --> 00:12:44,638 My mother would talk to me about... anything. 200 00:12:44,930 --> 00:12:46,265 Didn't matter what it was. 201 00:12:46,724 --> 00:12:49,477 About two weeks prior, she had said to me, 202 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,937 "If I was to ever go anywhere, where would you go?" 203 00:12:52,563 --> 00:12:57,109 And... I said, "I don't know. I mean, my dad's house, I guess." 204 00:12:57,610 --> 00:12:59,904 She didn't say she was gonna leave. 205 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:01,614 But more of a scenario of... 206 00:13:02,990 --> 00:13:04,366 what if something happened? 207 00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:07,578 I didn't think anything of it, you know, at the time, 208 00:13:07,661 --> 00:13:09,622 because that's as far as it went. 209 00:13:12,958 --> 00:13:15,920 Obviously, in these kind of cases, it's a jigsaw puzzle. 210 00:13:16,003 --> 00:13:19,006 And it takes time to-- to put the jigsaw puzzle together. 211 00:13:20,883 --> 00:13:24,261 Early on, we had to build the timeline for what happened to Patrice. 212 00:13:26,096 --> 00:13:29,350 Patrice had customers in her shop the entire morning. 213 00:13:30,893 --> 00:13:32,770 We were able to ascertain from her appointment book 214 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:34,438 who was in the shop. 215 00:13:36,315 --> 00:13:37,525 First client, Pam Sheppard, 216 00:13:37,608 --> 00:13:39,902 arrives at the shop for a nine o'clock appointment. 217 00:13:40,402 --> 00:13:41,320 Patrice is there. 218 00:13:41,862 --> 00:13:43,989 Pam tells us that Patrice seems distracted, 219 00:13:44,073 --> 00:13:45,699 was not very attentive to her. 220 00:13:46,826 --> 00:13:50,079 About 11:05, Pam Sheppard leaves the shop. 221 00:13:51,747 --> 00:13:55,376 At 11:10, Paul Cantor arrives at the shop for his haircut. 222 00:13:58,254 --> 00:14:00,756 He left the shop at 11:27 a.m. 223 00:14:01,590 --> 00:14:03,801 And he got a phone call as he was leaving the shop. 224 00:14:03,884 --> 00:14:07,179 And we were able to verify that by his cell phone records. 225 00:14:08,931 --> 00:14:12,017 At 11:35, a customer calls to change an appointment. 226 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:15,855 That customer reports that Patrice was somewhat short on the phone. 227 00:14:15,938 --> 00:14:17,690 That was unusual for Patrice. 228 00:14:18,732 --> 00:14:20,734 That call lasts about two minutes. 229 00:14:23,195 --> 00:14:24,947 Based on phone records... 230 00:14:25,823 --> 00:14:29,034 -the next phone call comes at 11:50. 231 00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:32,246 Patrice doesn't answer the phone. 232 00:14:34,748 --> 00:14:38,335 So, you can draw the conclusion that something's not right here. 233 00:14:39,461 --> 00:14:43,007 It's critical that we understand what happened in that 13 minutes 234 00:14:43,299 --> 00:14:45,259 between 11:37 and 11:50. 235 00:14:49,054 --> 00:14:51,473 Outside of her shop, around 11:45, 236 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:52,892 you have two different witnesses, 237 00:14:52,975 --> 00:14:54,602 independent of each other, which is critical. 238 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:56,604 They see another car. 239 00:14:57,563 --> 00:14:59,106 As I came over the hill, 240 00:14:59,481 --> 00:15:02,026 I noticed first her SUV, 241 00:15:02,568 --> 00:15:05,571 which was normally parked on the side which was now visible, 242 00:15:06,030 --> 00:15:10,200 and a Chevy Lumina, which was pulled directly into the shop. 243 00:15:10,576 --> 00:15:14,204 The Chevy Lumina was in here, the hood right here. 244 00:15:15,331 --> 00:15:17,458 The salon door was open. 245 00:15:17,958 --> 00:15:23,547 I did notice the Chevy Lumina did have the Georgia Quail Wildlife tag. 246 00:15:26,050 --> 00:15:29,219 There was a second witness driving by Patrice's shop 247 00:15:29,470 --> 00:15:30,804 around the exact same time frame. 248 00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:33,682 He believes it's a, uh, Ford Taurus, 249 00:15:33,766 --> 00:15:36,018 possibly a Malibu. 250 00:15:36,852 --> 00:15:41,774 There were two ladies that I saw in front of the Lumina. 251 00:15:43,233 --> 00:15:45,194 A taller, dark-headed lady. 252 00:15:45,402 --> 00:15:47,780 She was more, like, in the middle of the car. 253 00:15:48,238 --> 00:15:54,536 And then, on the passenger side in the front of the car was an older lady. 254 00:15:55,204 --> 00:15:56,413 The second witness, 255 00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:59,208 he believes he sees a male standing in front. 256 00:15:59,291 --> 00:16:01,335 But he does describe shoulder-length hair. 257 00:16:01,418 --> 00:16:03,295 They had hands on each other. 258 00:16:03,504 --> 00:16:05,673 I don't know if one had tripped, 259 00:16:06,173 --> 00:16:07,591 if one was pushing one down, 260 00:16:07,675 --> 00:16:09,093 if one was helping one up. 261 00:16:09,343 --> 00:16:11,345 It just did not look normal. 262 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,181 These witnesses are credible 263 00:16:14,264 --> 00:16:16,141 because they essentially saw the same thing. 264 00:16:16,225 --> 00:16:18,102 And they're totally independent of each other. 265 00:16:18,185 --> 00:16:20,729 One of the detectives looked at me and said... 266 00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:24,108 "You do realize that you very well could've been 267 00:16:24,191 --> 00:16:26,360 one of the last people to see her alive." 268 00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:28,070 And... 269 00:16:28,737 --> 00:16:29,571 it broke me. 270 00:16:29,697 --> 00:16:31,365 I-- I started crying right there. 271 00:16:32,741 --> 00:16:33,951 How do you process that? 272 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:35,869 Why didn't I stop? 273 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:39,623 If I could've been the last one, 274 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,625 why couldn't I have done something? 275 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,585 Why didn't I do something? 276 00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:47,131 I've struggled. 277 00:16:47,214 --> 00:16:49,717 I've cried myself to sleep thinking about this. 278 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,389 The Lumina to me, holds a key. 279 00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:08,277 A lot of people told me that it would be okay, 280 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:09,445 that she would turn up, 281 00:17:09,528 --> 00:17:12,781 and she would never leave me at any cost. 282 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:22,166 I didn't know what to do. 283 00:17:24,543 --> 00:17:26,420 I walked through the woods for hours... 284 00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:28,964 calling her name. 285 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,262 I'd never been without my mother. 286 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:45,355 I was a couple months away from turning 16 when she went missing, 287 00:17:45,773 --> 00:17:49,568 and it made me grow up extremely fast after the fact. 288 00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:06,585 Went through some hard times after she was gone. 289 00:18:07,419 --> 00:18:09,880 You take a lot of things for granted in your life, 290 00:18:10,589 --> 00:18:13,092 until, uh, they're all stripped away. 291 00:18:32,027 --> 00:18:34,404 Yeah, this was the, uh, the last home that... 292 00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:36,865 my mother and I lived in. 293 00:18:45,624 --> 00:18:47,292 The last time I slept here was... 294 00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:49,711 the night before she went missing. 295 00:18:55,676 --> 00:18:58,262 This is a... a bittersweet memory for me. 296 00:18:59,346 --> 00:19:03,267 I dealt with a lot of, uh, deep issues in this home. 297 00:19:03,684 --> 00:19:05,769 But I have a lot of good memories here, too. 298 00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:09,606 I remember the last Christmas I spent with my mother here. 299 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:14,111 She always made Christmas kind of a, uh, her-and-I type situation. 300 00:19:14,444 --> 00:19:16,446 She made sure I got everything I wanted. 301 00:19:17,239 --> 00:19:20,701 But... also remember having memories here where... 302 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:25,122 I would stay in my room just so I wouldn't have to deal with, uh, Rob. 303 00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:33,463 I was... eight or nine when, uh, when they got married. 304 00:19:35,799 --> 00:19:37,259 Patrice was so happy. 305 00:19:37,342 --> 00:19:38,886 She was just radiant and smiling 306 00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:41,847 like you're supposed to be on the day that you get married. 307 00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:45,017 She thought Rob was the guy that she was supposed to be with. 308 00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:51,273 When I walked her down the aisle, I cried like a baby. 309 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,567 I can still remember it. 310 00:19:54,526 --> 00:19:55,360 And... 311 00:19:56,653 --> 00:19:57,905 I gave her over to Rob... 312 00:19:57,988 --> 00:20:01,366 ...and I said, "Just take care of my daughter, will you?" 313 00:20:01,450 --> 00:20:02,701 And he said, "I will." 314 00:20:04,828 --> 00:20:07,414 In the first year, Rob was, uh, really nice. 315 00:20:08,540 --> 00:20:10,042 You know, he tried to be a stepfather, 316 00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:14,004 tried to include himself in things I was doing, 317 00:20:14,087 --> 00:20:18,383 like going to take me to football practice or whatever the case may be. 318 00:20:18,634 --> 00:20:19,843 And then, uh... 319 00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:21,261 it flipped. 320 00:20:23,597 --> 00:20:26,141 He turned into a completely different person 321 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:29,019 and acted extremely different towards me. 322 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:32,522 He just tried to make me feel that I wasn't good enough. 323 00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:37,611 He'd walk past my room and just say really crude stuff. 324 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:41,406 Many of my friends that would come over would see it, 325 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:44,701 and would hear the, uh, snide comments that he would make. 326 00:20:47,496 --> 00:20:48,830 I went through years of it. 327 00:20:50,165 --> 00:20:54,086 When I met Rob, he was always overly protective, 328 00:20:54,419 --> 00:20:56,838 always hovering whenever he was around... 329 00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:58,382 um... 330 00:20:59,091 --> 00:20:59,967 jealous... 331 00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:04,554 of even her friends' relationships with Patrice. 332 00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:07,891 She wasn't happy. 333 00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:09,851 They fought a lot. 334 00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:12,729 Rob wanted her all to himself. 335 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:19,736 He didn't understand why she would give me so much attention 336 00:21:20,279 --> 00:21:22,281 and thought that... 337 00:21:24,074 --> 00:21:26,576 he wasn't getting attention because I was getting it. 338 00:21:30,455 --> 00:21:32,207 I would watch them fight sometimes. 339 00:21:32,624 --> 00:21:34,001 If it was ever about me, 340 00:21:34,793 --> 00:21:35,961 she wouldn't back down. 341 00:21:41,508 --> 00:21:44,553 Patrice and I didn't argue. We never argued. 342 00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:46,305 There's no point in arguing. 343 00:21:46,805 --> 00:21:50,600 All that does is drive divisions in a-- in a relationship. 344 00:21:54,438 --> 00:21:58,358 I think Pistol was enormously... 345 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:01,528 jealous, for the lack of a different term, 346 00:22:01,987 --> 00:22:06,199 about the closeness of Patrice's and my relationship. 347 00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:11,663 One of the things that we struggled with is... 348 00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:13,665 she didn't discipline him. 349 00:22:14,416 --> 00:22:16,543 And he just ran crazy. 350 00:22:19,046 --> 00:22:23,342 I just didn't see any future in him when I was with him, 351 00:22:23,425 --> 00:22:24,551 to tell you the truth. 352 00:22:30,807 --> 00:22:32,559 She had spoke about divorce 353 00:22:32,642 --> 00:22:36,772 a couple weeks prior to... all of this happening 354 00:22:37,439 --> 00:22:40,776 because she was unhappy with, uh, the relationship 355 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:43,445 and had been for quite a few years up to that point. 356 00:22:43,820 --> 00:22:48,158 Patrice planning... to divorce me is new information. 357 00:22:49,409 --> 00:22:51,912 We-- She never made that comment to me. 358 00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:55,415 Sometimes, there were issues. 359 00:22:56,833 --> 00:23:00,420 But I don't remember the issues. I care not to remember the issues. 360 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:05,258 And, um, yeah, I'd expected to live with her... forever. 361 00:23:06,218 --> 00:23:08,887 We had a whole entire life ahead of us. 362 00:23:15,143 --> 00:23:16,937 The day after my mom went missing, 363 00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:19,064 Rob changed all the locks on the doors on the house, 364 00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:20,774 wouldn't let me in to get any clothes... 365 00:23:21,274 --> 00:23:22,275 at all. 366 00:23:25,529 --> 00:23:29,533 After Patrice went missing, just as a precautionary measure, 367 00:23:29,616 --> 00:23:31,910 I believe I changed all the locks in the house. 368 00:23:33,453 --> 00:23:35,997 I would bang on the doors, knock on the windows... 369 00:23:36,665 --> 00:23:39,000 but... no one would come. 370 00:23:39,459 --> 00:23:40,919 It made me feel really angry, 371 00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:43,088 and upset at the same time. 372 00:23:44,548 --> 00:23:46,049 It's still hard for me to believe. 373 00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:51,805 I didn't want Pistol in the house because... 374 00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:54,015 the... you know... 375 00:23:54,558 --> 00:23:55,517 I didn't like him. 376 00:23:56,643 --> 00:23:58,979 And just to be on the safe side, 377 00:23:59,062 --> 00:24:00,856 just go stay somewhere else. 378 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:02,441 And then we know you'll be safe. 379 00:24:03,150 --> 00:24:07,154 And I'll know I'm not gonna have this constant mental drag on me 380 00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:09,489 that you're here and I have to put up with your stuff. 381 00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:22,878 After my mom had been missing, I went to live with my father. 382 00:24:23,378 --> 00:24:25,172 He's, uh, got a small farm, 383 00:24:25,338 --> 00:24:26,631 raises a lot of chickens. 384 00:24:27,424 --> 00:24:29,426 It was rocky during that time. 385 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:33,180 My father, uh, had gone into depression, 386 00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:35,474 because my mother was still his best friend. 387 00:24:38,852 --> 00:24:40,520 Throw it right there, scatter it. 388 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:42,731 And.. he was hers. 389 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,566 They, uh-- They spoke every day. 390 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,110 And it wasn't anything farther than that, 391 00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:49,613 but they knew they could always depend on each other, 392 00:24:49,696 --> 00:24:51,698 and, um... they both loved me. 393 00:24:52,449 --> 00:24:54,534 And... that's... 394 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,037 They made sure that, um... 395 00:24:57,829 --> 00:25:00,499 I'd always have a mother and a father that supported me, 396 00:25:00,582 --> 00:25:01,791 even if they weren't together. 397 00:25:05,545 --> 00:25:06,671 A game chicken. 398 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:08,715 We got you. 399 00:25:15,555 --> 00:25:18,725 I started getting more anxious as time went on. 400 00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:24,064 And I woke up every morning thinking, "Okay, today's gonna be the day. 401 00:25:24,481 --> 00:25:27,275 She's gonna pop up and everything's gonna be fine." 402 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:28,902 She's gonna say, you know, 403 00:25:28,985 --> 00:25:32,239 "Look, I had to do this to get a life made for us 404 00:25:32,322 --> 00:25:33,949 so I could get away from Rob, 405 00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:36,785 and we wouldn't have to endure any more of that." 406 00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:39,913 Every fucking morning. 407 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:41,456 Every morning. 408 00:25:44,251 --> 00:25:45,126 Never came. 409 00:26:03,186 --> 00:26:07,315 Every night, I'd sit on the couch and I'd look out at the window, 410 00:26:08,024 --> 00:26:09,025 saying that, uh... 411 00:26:09,818 --> 00:26:11,861 hope-- hopefully that I'd see her. 412 00:26:17,325 --> 00:26:20,412 Over time, you realize, you know, 413 00:26:20,787 --> 00:26:23,123 nobody's seen her, nobody's hearing from her. 414 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,088 It's real hard. 415 00:26:34,509 --> 00:26:36,386 'Cause not only is she your friend... 416 00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:38,930 Excuse me. 417 00:26:41,141 --> 00:26:43,560 ...but you don't really know what happened to her. 418 00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,151 I didn't give up. I never gave up. 419 00:26:51,234 --> 00:26:53,236 I kept thinking in the back of my mind, 420 00:26:53,403 --> 00:26:55,989 "She'll, uh, pick up the phone one day and she'll call me." 421 00:26:56,072 --> 00:26:59,909 Or, "She'll send me a letter with no return address." Or... 422 00:27:00,118 --> 00:27:02,245 Yeah, you think all those things. Of course you do. 423 00:27:02,329 --> 00:27:05,248 When you love and care about somebody, you never wanna give up. 424 00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:17,886 I think we interviewed everybody that knows Patrice. 425 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,805 Financial records, phone records, 426 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,059 every can that can be kicked over or touched was. 427 00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:27,395 And we have looked, uh, strongly at a laundry list of suspects. 428 00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,107 Once you've taken someone, 429 00:27:31,524 --> 00:27:33,151 you're either gonna kill them, 430 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:35,028 or you're gonna get caught. 431 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:37,489 It's as simple as that. 432 00:27:37,906 --> 00:27:40,200 Gary Hilton attracted our attention 433 00:27:40,283 --> 00:27:42,202 after the murder of Meredith Emerson. 434 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:43,411 And, as an artist... 435 00:27:44,954 --> 00:27:46,414 uh, and as a sociopath, 436 00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:49,668 if you're doing this, you would like to select your victims 437 00:27:50,418 --> 00:27:52,087 on an artistic sense. 438 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:54,464 He abducted this young girl and her dog, 439 00:27:54,631 --> 00:27:57,008 uh, took her into neighboring Dawson County, 440 00:27:57,092 --> 00:28:00,345 kept her alive for-- for a number days, and brutally murdered her. 441 00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:01,596 Brutally. 442 00:28:02,972 --> 00:28:04,766 Gary Hilton is a person that, 443 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:07,477 uh, we know has been in Forsyth County. 444 00:28:08,895 --> 00:28:10,689 He had actually been stopped by one of our deputies 445 00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:12,273 on a traffic stop, here in Forsyth County. 446 00:28:14,234 --> 00:28:16,653 We learned that Gary would call people 447 00:28:16,736 --> 00:28:18,780 and essentially con them out of money. 448 00:28:18,863 --> 00:28:21,491 But he would also do that in person. 449 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:23,660 And he made the statement one day 450 00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:27,706 that his favorite place to go was a hair salon. 451 00:28:30,667 --> 00:28:32,794 He would go in and he would ask for money. 452 00:28:34,003 --> 00:28:35,964 Favorite time was lunchtime. 453 00:28:42,220 --> 00:28:44,180 Gary Hilton doesn't need a motive. 454 00:28:44,264 --> 00:28:47,350 Gary Hilton... hunts for people. 455 00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:48,935 He hunts for opportunities. 456 00:28:50,228 --> 00:28:51,730 We've not been able to alibi him. 457 00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:54,482 We've not been able to prove that he is not involved. 458 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,818 But we've not been able to prove that he was involved. 459 00:28:56,901 --> 00:28:58,653 He's certainly a potential suspect. 460 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,196 Is he the only potential? No. 461 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Are there others? I'm sure there are. 462 00:29:04,325 --> 00:29:06,578 What you're seeing right here in front of you is a nice guy 463 00:29:06,661 --> 00:29:09,873 that would help an old lady carry her groceries to her car. 464 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:14,085 Jeremy Jones was arrested in-- in Mobile, Alabama, 465 00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:16,129 for the murder of a female there. 466 00:29:16,796 --> 00:29:18,965 That's why people say I don't fit the profile of both. 467 00:29:20,091 --> 00:29:23,011 Jeremy Jones was an easy person to talk to. 468 00:29:23,094 --> 00:29:25,847 He, like most people, liked to hunt, fish. 469 00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:27,474 You know, he'd talk sports. 470 00:29:27,557 --> 00:29:29,601 But he had a demon inside that-- 471 00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:31,644 You know, he liked to sexually abuse women. 472 00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:36,149 And he confessed to, uh, probably, six to eight murders of women. 473 00:29:36,983 --> 00:29:38,777 By definition, he is a serial killer. 474 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:41,279 She said she had a family that loved her very much. 475 00:29:41,488 --> 00:29:43,698 She started crying, which started to make me cry. 476 00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:47,327 Uh, I got her back there to the warehouse. 477 00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:49,537 And I forced myself on her. 478 00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:54,876 When Jeremy Jones started to confess to these different murders, 479 00:29:55,418 --> 00:30:00,715 he talked about how he needed to tell us about a hairdresser in Georgia. 480 00:30:01,174 --> 00:30:03,676 The first time you met Patrice was at her shop? 481 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,594 Yes. 482 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,596 Did you ever talk to Patrice? 483 00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:07,555 Yes. 484 00:30:08,765 --> 00:30:11,142 When I'm high on dope, I ain't got no integrity. 485 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,355 Yeah, I could become the evilest, most cruelest... 486 00:30:15,855 --> 00:30:18,483 individual person, like Heckle and Jeckle. 487 00:30:24,197 --> 00:30:25,990 Jones said he was passing by 488 00:30:26,074 --> 00:30:28,993 and decided to approach the-- the beauty shop. 489 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,877 I went to the beauty shop, asked her to come out and help me. 490 00:30:38,711 --> 00:30:39,838 Told her I might need a jump. 491 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,966 Forced her in the car. 492 00:30:44,968 --> 00:30:45,802 I had a knife. 493 00:30:47,887 --> 00:30:49,639 And I told her that I'd kill her if she tried-- 494 00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:51,307 She was crying... 495 00:30:53,101 --> 00:30:56,271 Jones drew a diagram of where her vehicle was parked, 496 00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:58,648 and where he parked his vehicle, and... 497 00:30:58,731 --> 00:31:01,359 it was an accurate depiction of-- of where it would be. 498 00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:04,946 So you went to this river and, uh... did what? 499 00:31:09,117 --> 00:31:10,910 I threw her over the side of the bridge. 500 00:31:16,457 --> 00:31:18,418 Jeremy told the investigators 501 00:31:18,501 --> 00:31:21,254 that he threw her in Sweetwater Creek in Douglas County. 502 00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:27,176 We made a pretty extensive search 503 00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,096 from where he said that he had done something. 504 00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:34,100 Cadaver dogs, boats, search and rescue personnel 505 00:31:34,225 --> 00:31:35,935 who are very adept at that. 506 00:31:38,646 --> 00:31:40,982 We didn't find anything in that area. 507 00:31:44,152 --> 00:31:45,236 There have been times 508 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,323 that individuals would come into law enforcement agencies 509 00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:50,533 and say they have killed someone, um, 510 00:31:50,617 --> 00:31:53,286 but as you start to look further, then it is not true. 511 00:31:53,369 --> 00:31:56,623 And, ultimately, Jeremy Jones recanted his confession. 512 00:32:00,919 --> 00:32:02,545 We found no evidence 513 00:32:02,629 --> 00:32:07,592 to link Jeremy Jones to the kidnapping and murder of Patrice Endres. 514 00:32:08,384 --> 00:32:11,638 But that does not eliminate Jeremy Jones as being a suspect. 515 00:32:15,224 --> 00:32:17,477 There was some things he told us that, you know, 516 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,438 I thought was really... incredible 517 00:32:20,521 --> 00:32:23,358 and impossible for someone to know that wasn't there. 518 00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:28,780 I believe he's a strong possibility for Patrice's murder. 519 00:32:58,768 --> 00:33:02,105 This is the Lebanon Baptist Church, built in '41. 520 00:33:02,188 --> 00:33:04,649 My mama and daddy was two of the founders of it. 521 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:10,321 We was building the Fellowship Hall and trying to finish it up, and, uh... 522 00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:13,408 one of my friends come over and bought me a biscuit, 523 00:33:13,491 --> 00:33:15,493 and wanted me to come around and eat it, me and him. 524 00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,412 We come out on the back steps and, uh... 525 00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:19,038 I was eating a biscuit, 526 00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:21,332 and a bunch of buzzards were down there, flying around, 527 00:33:21,416 --> 00:33:23,292 and I said, "When I get through eating, 528 00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:26,129 I'm gonna go down there and see what they flying around about." 529 00:33:26,212 --> 00:33:28,172 And, uh, got down there, 530 00:33:28,256 --> 00:33:31,509 and my buddy said, "Uh, I found a deer." 531 00:33:33,219 --> 00:33:34,387 My buddy said, 532 00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:36,764 "What's that right there behind you?" 533 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:40,059 I said, "Where?" and he said, "Right there, to your right." 534 00:33:40,143 --> 00:33:42,937 And, uh, I looked and I said, "Looks like a skull." 535 00:33:52,321 --> 00:33:53,239 I was, um... 536 00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:55,533 I was in school. 537 00:33:55,783 --> 00:33:56,617 I, uh... 538 00:33:57,243 --> 00:33:58,244 Senior year. 539 00:33:58,911 --> 00:33:59,746 And, um... 540 00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,999 I got a call to go to the, uh, principal's office. 541 00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:06,127 Which wasn't rare for me, 'cause, you know... 542 00:34:07,003 --> 00:34:08,629 I was, uh... 543 00:34:08,713 --> 00:34:10,965 ...kind of a problem at that point. 544 00:34:12,759 --> 00:34:13,718 My father... 545 00:34:14,218 --> 00:34:15,053 he came in. 546 00:34:16,345 --> 00:34:17,430 He sat down. 547 00:34:17,513 --> 00:34:18,514 And I'm going... 548 00:34:19,348 --> 00:34:20,266 "What's going on?" 549 00:34:20,808 --> 00:34:22,185 And he said, "Look, they, uh... 550 00:34:23,436 --> 00:34:24,812 they found your mom today." 551 00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:27,607 I'm going, "Okay cool. Where's she at?" 552 00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:29,150 And he was like, "No. 553 00:34:29,734 --> 00:34:31,277 They found her remains today." 554 00:34:32,445 --> 00:34:33,362 And, uh... 555 00:34:36,032 --> 00:34:38,242 it was very hard for me to focus on anything 556 00:34:38,618 --> 00:34:41,788 for quite a while after that. 557 00:34:43,873 --> 00:34:45,291 Very hard day. 558 00:34:50,630 --> 00:34:51,798 It's still hard. 559 00:34:55,134 --> 00:34:56,511 She died too soon. 560 00:34:57,595 --> 00:34:59,847 Why? We don't know. 561 00:35:00,181 --> 00:35:02,558 I'd like to hear her call me and say, 562 00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:04,560 "Hey, Pap, how you doing?" 563 00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:06,312 But that don't happen no more. 564 00:35:10,233 --> 00:35:13,361 She's in heaven, enjoying life up there. 565 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:14,821 And one day... 566 00:35:15,238 --> 00:35:16,572 maybe I'll get to see her. 567 00:35:26,332 --> 00:35:29,001 We got the call from the Dawson County Sheriff's Office 568 00:35:29,085 --> 00:35:33,673 that two volunteers at Lebanon Baptist Church had found a, uh... 569 00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:36,384 a skull that they believed to be human. 570 00:35:55,027 --> 00:35:57,780 This is an area that's woods for as far as you can walk. 571 00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,577 When Patrice's body was found, 572 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:04,954 it was December 6th, 2005. 573 00:36:05,454 --> 00:36:07,373 Six hundred days, she was-- she was missing. 574 00:36:07,456 --> 00:36:11,502 From April 15th, 2004 to December 6th, 2005 575 00:36:11,586 --> 00:36:13,004 is 600 days on the dot. 576 00:36:15,756 --> 00:36:18,885 We initially had a team here within a matter of hours, 577 00:36:18,968 --> 00:36:22,471 searching to try to make sure that we find every piece of evidence. 578 00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,102 For this entire area here, 579 00:36:28,186 --> 00:36:29,854 all the way to the bottom of the ravine, 580 00:36:30,313 --> 00:36:31,939 I want it to look like this. 581 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,859 I want it to be cleared where I can see the dirt. 582 00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:37,445 Where if there's something embedded in the dirt... 583 00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:40,281 some piece of evidence... 584 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,283 maybe a bone... 585 00:36:44,243 --> 00:36:46,287 then I can find it and I can collect it. 586 00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:57,006 This particular area where Lebanon Baptist Church is at, 587 00:36:57,089 --> 00:36:59,383 is-- is very rural, very-- very remote. 588 00:37:02,345 --> 00:37:06,349 It would be difficult over that terrain to carry dead weight. 589 00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:09,560 But you can't discount that she wasn't walked in here. 590 00:37:12,855 --> 00:37:16,776 So we don't know that... Patrice was carried in here, drug in here, 591 00:37:16,859 --> 00:37:18,819 or if she walked in here. We don't know. 592 00:37:22,657 --> 00:37:25,409 The investigators were here for a day and a half. 593 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:28,746 Two hundred and six bones in the body, 594 00:37:29,538 --> 00:37:31,916 and we left here with slightly less than that. 595 00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:44,929 It's disturbing that Patrice possibly laid in the woods for 600 days. 596 00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:49,016 You feel like you didn't do your job. You feel like you didn't do enough. 597 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:50,393 You feel like... 598 00:37:50,851 --> 00:37:53,062 you failed the family. 599 00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:04,991 I have different theories, 600 00:38:05,074 --> 00:38:06,701 as far as what I think happened. 601 00:38:07,034 --> 00:38:07,952 But... 602 00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:10,997 I told the police that... 603 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,332 I think Rob had something to do with my mother's murder. 604 00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:16,502 I think that, uh... 605 00:38:17,837 --> 00:38:20,089 her trying to get a divorce from Rob... 606 00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:22,341 played a major part in this. 607 00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,802 I can only imagine how jealous he would be 608 00:38:24,885 --> 00:38:28,597 of her leaving him and possibly going to someone else. 609 00:38:32,351 --> 00:38:34,562 I told the police they needed to look at Rob. 610 00:38:34,937 --> 00:38:36,897 Because of what I knew 611 00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:39,900 about how she was not as happy with Rob 612 00:38:39,984 --> 00:38:41,736 as she had been in the past, 613 00:38:41,819 --> 00:38:43,696 I always thought Rob had something to do with it. 614 00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:50,119 I have no comment for people who think that I killed Patrice, 615 00:38:50,202 --> 00:38:51,829 because I don't talk to those people. 616 00:38:51,912 --> 00:38:53,998 Because I know I didn't. 617 00:38:54,582 --> 00:38:56,083 Patrice knows I didn't. 618 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:59,920 And it's physically impossible timewise for me to have been involved in it. 619 00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:01,505 Think what you like. 620 00:39:06,927 --> 00:39:08,929 The day Patrice went missing, 621 00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:10,473 I was at home. 622 00:39:10,556 --> 00:39:13,392 Before I went to work, I got gas for my car. 623 00:39:13,851 --> 00:39:16,604 I had a receipt. The receipt's time-stamped. 624 00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:22,234 Her shop is probably a 45-minute drive 625 00:39:22,443 --> 00:39:25,988 from where I was in Woodstock, getting gas. 626 00:39:27,073 --> 00:39:30,743 They have when I went through the turnstile at work, 627 00:39:30,826 --> 00:39:33,454 so they have... the clock sitting there. 628 00:39:33,788 --> 00:39:38,876 It's physically impossible for me to go to Patrice's shop, 629 00:39:38,959 --> 00:39:40,961 and get back and get gas, 630 00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:42,588 and get to work and all that stuff. 631 00:39:42,671 --> 00:39:43,923 It's not gonna happen. 632 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,846 How about motive? What was my motive? 633 00:39:50,930 --> 00:39:53,682 We didn't have life insurance on Patrice. 634 00:39:53,766 --> 00:39:54,892 She's 38. 635 00:39:57,019 --> 00:40:00,064 You know, I mean it's-- You know, nice try. 636 00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:07,446 Rob Endres was thoroughly investigated, 637 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:09,532 and we created a timeline for him... 638 00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:15,204 that doesn't eliminate him from-- from being able to do this, 639 00:40:15,329 --> 00:40:18,499 but greatly reduces the chances that he could've done this. 640 00:40:19,125 --> 00:40:21,585 It doesn't eliminate a murder-for-hire. 641 00:40:22,753 --> 00:40:24,630 But it just doesn't seem probable. 642 00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:28,426 We've uncovered nothing that suggests that at this point. 643 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:32,680 In my mind's eye, 644 00:40:32,763 --> 00:40:37,351 why I think somebody who knew Patricia's routine was involved, 645 00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:39,103 somebody that she knew, 646 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:41,939 because the place wasn't disheveled, wasn't beat up, 647 00:40:42,022 --> 00:40:43,649 nothing turned over, supposedly. 648 00:40:43,732 --> 00:40:45,734 Who's to say it was one person to carry her? 649 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:50,239 Was she kept, uh, captive for a while? Was-- 650 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:54,577 You know, I hate to say this, but was she somebody's... toy for a while? 651 00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:57,288 Who knows when she was put out there, or how? 652 00:40:57,371 --> 00:41:00,332 Did someone take a wheelbarrow and haul her out there? I don't know. 653 00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:18,017 I don't work off theories. 654 00:41:18,142 --> 00:41:21,770 I work off... the evidence, the information, the facts. 655 00:41:22,271 --> 00:41:26,066 The Patrice Endres mystery appeared to have occurred 656 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:27,443 in a 13-minute window. 657 00:41:28,944 --> 00:41:33,699 From the time of the last phone call Patrice made at 11:37, 658 00:41:33,782 --> 00:41:37,786 to 11:50 when the next phone call came in, when Patrice didn't answer, 659 00:41:37,870 --> 00:41:41,665 I strongly believe that Patrice was already in the process 660 00:41:41,749 --> 00:41:45,044 of... the event that eventually led to her death. 661 00:41:48,547 --> 00:41:50,966 I wanna know what happened in those 13 minutes. 662 00:41:51,842 --> 00:41:55,304 We know that money is missing from Patrice's cash register. 663 00:41:55,804 --> 00:41:59,391 So, is a robbery the primary motive? 664 00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:00,893 I don't think so. 665 00:42:02,228 --> 00:42:05,856 Salons are generally not targeted for an armed robbery. 666 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,026 There's generally not a lot of cash on hand in a salon. 667 00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:11,362 But the road itself is very busy. 668 00:42:11,529 --> 00:42:13,948 People constantly walked into her shop, 669 00:42:14,031 --> 00:42:15,199 asked for directions, 670 00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:17,326 asked questions about the area. 671 00:42:18,786 --> 00:42:20,996 It's possible that just the wrong person walked in 672 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,666 and realized that this is a prime opportunity. 673 00:42:23,749 --> 00:42:24,875 And then she was gone. 674 00:42:27,336 --> 00:42:28,712 The blue car is critical. 675 00:42:28,796 --> 00:42:33,300 That blue car is one thing that we know happened at 11:45, 676 00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,219 and that is in the middle of that 13 minutes. 677 00:42:36,053 --> 00:42:40,099 Whether it be a 1992 Chevrolet Lumina with a Georgia Wildlife tag, 678 00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,852 or whether it's a '99 to '02 Ford Taurus, 679 00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:45,729 or a Chevrolet Malibu four-door. 680 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:48,399 If you know someone that has a blue car, 681 00:42:48,482 --> 00:42:50,442 that that day, something was different, 682 00:42:51,026 --> 00:42:52,861 got home a little bit late, 683 00:42:52,945 --> 00:42:56,240 and acted extremely unusual 684 00:42:56,323 --> 00:42:59,076 from any way that this person has ever acted before... 685 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:02,955 then that's a piece of the puzzle we need to know. 686 00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:08,711 We also didn't find Patrice's wedding ring. 687 00:43:08,794 --> 00:43:12,298 The 1.5 carat pear-shaped diamond 688 00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:14,675 with two other 14-carat gold rings 689 00:43:15,009 --> 00:43:16,594 we believe were attached. 690 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,096 We would like to find that. 691 00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:24,935 There's aspects of-- of the Patrice Endres investigation 692 00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:26,604 that we can't discuss, 693 00:43:26,687 --> 00:43:28,105 that we refuse to discuss, 694 00:43:28,814 --> 00:43:31,233 because we define it as guilty knowledge information. 695 00:43:31,567 --> 00:43:34,778 Guilty knowledge information is information that's only known... 696 00:43:35,738 --> 00:43:38,449 by the person responsible for what happened to Patrice, 697 00:43:38,741 --> 00:43:41,243 and by us, the investigators themselves, 698 00:43:41,327 --> 00:43:43,495 that know every aspect of the case. 699 00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:46,582 We can't afford to have a false confession. 700 00:43:47,041 --> 00:43:50,294 We definitely want to give some form of closure to the family. 701 00:44:04,308 --> 00:44:07,144 This is the location where we had the table 702 00:44:07,227 --> 00:44:09,521 where Ms. Patrice's remains were. 703 00:44:12,316 --> 00:44:16,403 I asked the people who took care of Patrice's remains, 704 00:44:16,487 --> 00:44:19,198 "What I'd like you to do as a last farewell..." 705 00:44:20,741 --> 00:44:22,910 I don't know if that's how I termed it. 706 00:44:24,536 --> 00:44:26,330 "...is reassemble her. 707 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:28,874 Lay her out for me. 708 00:44:29,833 --> 00:44:30,959 I wanna see her." 709 00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:45,933 The skeletal remains that we received, 710 00:44:46,016 --> 00:44:49,770 we placed as best we could in a correct anatomical position. 711 00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:52,940 And then, when we had that ready and set, 712 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,485 I brought Mr. Rob into this room, 713 00:44:56,735 --> 00:44:59,279 where he had some time with Ms. Patrice. 714 00:45:00,030 --> 00:45:02,825 I picked up her skeleton, I mean her head, 715 00:45:03,158 --> 00:45:05,160 and carried it around for a while. 716 00:45:09,581 --> 00:45:11,458 Put her back, kissed her goodbye. 717 00:45:15,629 --> 00:45:18,257 I thanked Mr. Caldwell and I left. 718 00:45:18,340 --> 00:45:20,759 He asked me if I was okay to drive. I was. 719 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:27,516 That's the last time I saw Patrice anywhere near intact. 720 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:30,602 Probably for a year or longer 721 00:45:30,686 --> 00:45:35,107 after Patrice was returned to me, her ashes... 722 00:45:36,108 --> 00:45:38,110 she stayed in my bed. I slept with her. 723 00:45:38,527 --> 00:45:41,280 It's something that I typically don't share with people. 724 00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:43,449 But she was like my teddy bear. 725 00:45:44,616 --> 00:45:46,201 'Cause that's how we used to... 726 00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:49,329 You know, that's how we used to sleep, snuggled together. 727 00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:52,249 Just brought back good memories. 728 00:45:56,044 --> 00:45:58,505 And yes, I'm protective of Patrice. 729 00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:01,175 And I have her. 730 00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:04,511 That's a good thing. 731 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:10,434 Should be in here. 732 00:46:28,202 --> 00:46:29,286 Here's her ashes. 733 00:46:33,123 --> 00:46:35,167 You can see how beat up this box is. 734 00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:41,715 I kept it in the box. I didn't take it out. 735 00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:02,319 There we go. 736 00:47:10,869 --> 00:47:12,120 And there's Patrice. 737 00:47:16,959 --> 00:47:20,546 This... small, one pound bag, 738 00:47:21,255 --> 00:47:23,674 are the cremains for Patrice. 739 00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:29,012 It's the first time I've seen this bag. 740 00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:31,974 It's somewhat emotional, actually. 741 00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:35,978 Sor-- Sorry. 742 00:47:39,481 --> 00:47:42,401 I'd never share these ashes with anybody. 743 00:47:43,485 --> 00:47:44,570 Particularly Pistol. 744 00:48:01,879 --> 00:48:03,589 It's been 15 years. 745 00:48:05,048 --> 00:48:08,760 At this point, I've, uh, been without her as long as I had her. 746 00:48:11,388 --> 00:48:12,639 I don't have her remains. 747 00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:15,851 Uh, Rob's actually got 'em. 748 00:48:16,268 --> 00:48:18,520 And that... hurts me more every day. 749 00:48:22,816 --> 00:48:25,068 I, uh, couldn't do anything about it. 750 00:48:25,569 --> 00:48:27,905 Didn't get any pictures or anything of hers. 751 00:48:30,908 --> 00:48:34,077 I didn't get to, uh, grow up and leave home like... 752 00:48:35,037 --> 00:48:36,914 normal, and be able to come back, 753 00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:40,083 and know I had, you know, someone always behind me... 754 00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:42,878 pushing me to be better. 755 00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:48,884 I just hope I can be half the person she was. 756 00:49:09,071 --> 00:49:11,782 I think she still hears me. 757 00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,453 There's times that I-- Sometimes I think she's still here... 758 00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:20,582 and she's still, you know, right behind me. 759 00:49:26,171 --> 00:49:28,048 Been searching for that closure, 760 00:49:28,382 --> 00:49:30,384 and some justice for what happened to her. 761 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,056 That's all I'm looking for. 762 00:49:36,348 --> 00:49:37,391 She deserves it.